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E.F.C. 312, which sucked, but we're

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gonna put some life in it.

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There's always something good to get

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out of every card, including Drikas

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Dupuisee and Jean Weyli, adding to

0:41

their title defense collection. We gotta

0:43

give them their props. We'll discuss

0:45

the card, some news that came

0:48

out of the card. And we

0:50

also have a guess for you.

0:52

Chaos Williams has got a big

0:54

fight coming up. this Saturday at

0:56

USC Fight Night 251 which takes

0:59

place here in Las Vegas.

1:01

He's got Gabriel Bonfie

1:03

being ahead of him. That should

1:05

be a good one. You know there's

1:07

going to be chaos like his

1:09

name insinuates. So we'll

1:11

be right back to start the show.

1:27

So look, we've been kind of

1:30

crapping on 312 from the minute

1:32

it got made through Saturday nights

1:35

watching along. Thank you to

1:37

everybody that may have tuned

1:39

in through SBC, which ended

1:41

a few minutes ago and now

1:43

through this show. But it just

1:46

wasn't like other UFCs, other paper

1:48

views. And I know sucked sounds

1:50

harsh, but I was expecting

1:53

more. Maybe some of that's

1:55

on the challenges, both. part

1:57

of the extreme contourgen that we We've

1:59

been a part of for years. But

2:02

we've got to do our jobs. Here

2:04

we are. Dreyk is to proceed, defeated

2:06

Sean Strickland. Strickland just didn't have a

2:08

plan B, didn't have an answer. I've

2:10

seen him hit people hard at light

2:13

heavyweight when he had to. I heard

2:15

a song when he was trying to

2:17

win a title, knocked down Israel out

2:19

of Sonja, and almost finished him. But

2:22

in this fight, it was pretty much

2:24

the same thing. Aside from maybe a

2:26

few blitzes. It was the same thing

2:28

he wouldn't change it up it was

2:30

like a day of sparring for him

2:33

and I don't get it and here's

2:35

why he goes because he always dismissed

2:37

the title as just a piece of

2:39

hardware it's no big deal I'm making

2:42

good money until he lost it and

2:44

then I think he realized when he

2:46

probably got his next contract whoa that's

2:48

a lot less than what I get

2:50

when I'm the champ right and he's

2:53

not a material guy he's always in

2:55

a white t-shirt pair of blue jeans

2:57

I get it but at the same

2:59

time You know you You're already going

3:02

to go out there and lose weight

3:04

and entertain and make that company a

3:06

lot of money get your piece of

3:08

the pie, right? Right. That's why I

3:11

thought that was going to be a

3:13

little bit of a motivator The fact

3:15

that it was a close fight the

3:17

first time around but in this time

3:19

you look worse in the first time

3:22

Yeah, that that's uh, I actually I

3:24

thought he fought well in the first

3:26

fight, but I always point to he

3:28

just didn't make any adjustments. I think

3:31

that's why DDP won that fight. This

3:33

fight was just a continuation of the

3:35

first fight for him, except I think

3:37

he just lacked energy, passion. It was

3:39

one of the oddest things I've ever

3:42

seen. He just would not do anything

3:44

different. And DDP was just hitting a

3:46

punching bag basically, you know, he was

3:48

doing some weird flashy stuff and it

3:51

was landing and he didn't really... Other

3:53

than really wanting that finish, he really

3:55

didn't have to. He was just winning

3:57

round after round. There was no question.

3:59

And it sucks because the coaches that

4:02

have... prepare Sean Strickland. They were saying

4:04

the right things they were telling him

4:06

what to do. He just didn't really

4:08

seem like he was dowed into him.

4:11

He wasn't paying attention and he definitely

4:13

wasn't doing them. It was just the

4:15

oddest performance and on a

4:17

card that was so top heavy for

4:20

the top heavy part of it not

4:22

to deliver really really stings. Yeah,

4:24

let's put it in perspective too.

4:26

The fights. I think started at Sunday

4:29

morning 7 a.m. in Australia and

4:31

so it wasn't like you know like

4:33

when you go to a football game

4:35

you're a lot more fired up

4:37

right for that 7 p.m. game

4:39

because you've been tailgating you've been

4:42

you know looking forward to

4:44

it discussing it with your friends

4:46

maybe throwing the football around a

4:48

couple alcoholic drinks I can't imagine

4:51

how difficult it must be to

4:53

wake up at 6 a.m. to go

4:55

to an arena to get in because all

4:57

this is to accommodate the 10 p.m.

4:59

Eastern start time for the paper view

5:02

here in North America. So that's why

5:04

they adapt. So they fought Sunday morning.

5:06

So to go to that every

5:08

decision's got to be a little

5:10

painful and every time a fighter just

5:12

doesn't perform has to be painful

5:15

that the fact that the card

5:17

isn't that deep. But yeah, you

5:19

get to the top two title

5:21

fights and they're just one-sided beat-downs.

5:23

Whoa, man, I don't know I'm I

5:26

I exit that arena in the

5:28

afternoon just thinking take me to

5:30

a bar Let me draw my

5:32

sorrows or something Yeah, I will

5:34

say this though, you know, you're right

5:36

about the top two fights But I

5:39

will say at least Tatiana

5:41

Suarez gave it everything she

5:43

had she just didn't have

5:45

an answer for it Sean didn't

5:47

feel like you felt like you

5:50

could do more. He just didn't

5:52

do it Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about

5:54

Tatiana in a second here, but DDP,

5:56

I don't want to take anything away

5:58

from him. I thought me maybe perverbially

6:00

and literally he could smell the

6:02

blood and maybe could have put

6:04

it on him a little bit

6:07

more, but I imagine he's exhausted.

6:09

I imagine he's also thinking, don't

6:11

be Kamaro is one, and Kamaro

6:13

is one, Leon Edwards won, where

6:15

he's way ahead and then he

6:17

slips up for one moment, next

6:19

thing you know, Leon Edwards has

6:21

his hand raised and he has

6:23

gold around him. So he may

6:25

have been thinking. I'm just the

6:27

clocks for my ally. I know

6:30

he can't hurt me. I'll pick

6:32

my shots here. But he didn't

6:34

get the finish either. But I

6:36

still want to give him his

6:38

flowers. This is the second title

6:40

defense in the U.S.C. He has

6:42

a loss since he's been in

6:44

the U.S.C. He's being world champions

6:46

like Robert Whittaker, Israel Addisania, and

6:48

now Sean Stricklin. So he's just

6:50

adding to his resume. Because today

6:53

on spinning back click, right, we

6:55

talked about is he getting closer

6:57

to being the go to the

6:59

division, you know, who's next, all

7:01

that. I will see the one

7:03

thing that I feel like he's

7:05

earned. And if you guys remember

7:07

our, believe it might have been

7:09

our last episode with Mark Ratner,

7:11

I think he's earned a fight

7:13

in South Africa. I know. I

7:16

think his presence has grown a

7:18

lot in the U.S. You know,

7:20

you see the other three African

7:22

champs kind of back him now.

7:24

I do believe that he's earned

7:26

that right and I know Mark

7:28

said we're closer. I really hope

7:30

they are because I think he's

7:32

earned a big fight there where

7:34

he's from. He said either Spain

7:36

or South Africa will get a

7:39

fight in 2025. It's looking that

7:41

way. He didn't flat out confirm

7:43

it, but he also didn't say

7:45

it was a long shot. So.

7:47

Let's see, that could be easier,

7:49

Elia Toporia or Dricus du Placy.

7:51

Here's what I think goes behind

7:53

the scenes. I think DOC's gone

7:55

to Spain and South Africa and

7:57

said, hello Spain and South Africa.

8:00

You have champions there. We love to go

8:02

there. How much will you pay us

8:04

to go there? And when they're not

8:06

hearing 20 million or Whatever just to

8:08

write them the check to come there

8:11

like the way Salt Lake City or

8:13

Perth or these other cities They dole

8:15

out the money and I think they're

8:17

smart because They'll say these are

8:19

all numbers. I'm making up folks. Here's

8:21

20 million come to Perth, right? Mm-hmm.

8:24

Do you see you'll do that but

8:26

Perth the tourism and everything that comes

8:28

in? that country will generate, let's say,

8:30

80 million or 100 million. So at

8:32

the end of the day, it makes

8:34

sense. Their balance sheet works out. It's

8:36

revenue for them. I think there's a lot

8:38

of other cities that say, sorry, we're not

8:40

going to do that. We'd rather give 20

8:43

million to homeless, right? Or add policemen

8:45

and women, like, you really want to

8:47

show coming? I think it's those

8:49

types of negotiations that happen. Because

8:51

South America has proper arenas proper

8:54

arenas. They've hosted a World Cup. They got

8:56

a big Spain, sorry not Spain, they got a big basketball league

8:58

over there that fills up these types of arenas. And hell, it's

9:00

not even getting in the stadiums because again, they both

9:02

have hosted World Cups. It's possible. I think that's the holdup. And

9:04

so I think the U.S. plays the game where they go, all

9:06

right, well, then maybe we'll just take our show elsewhere and then

9:08

they go. But I think that's what's happening is the U. The

9:10

U.C.s. is being welcomed being welcomed by a lot by a lot

9:13

of a lot of a lot of a lot of cities being

9:15

welcomed by a lot of cities being welcomed by a lot of

9:17

cities being welcomed by a lot of cities being welcomed by a

9:19

lot of cities being welcomed by a lot of cities being welcomed

9:21

by a lot of cities being welcomed by a lot of cities

9:23

being welcome. It could be you know at the

9:25

end when is you have seen not shown us

9:28

that money is the end I'll be all right

9:30

so I could see something like that

9:32

but when are you gonna have

9:34

these opportunities right like you see

9:36

how competitive these divisions are yes DDP

9:39

has been winning fights but he doesn't

9:41

strike you as a guy who's unbeatable

9:43

right like I don't know that you

9:45

look at his style go how are

9:47

we gonna stop DDP I mean he's

9:49

getting it done but in no way

9:51

is it like what Anderson Silva provided

9:53

right where guys weren't even touching them

9:55

like how long you're going to have

9:57

these opportunities to go to South Africa.

10:00

You go there without DDP? Does it

10:02

make much sense? Other than to say

10:04

even Africa? And I know, and guess

10:06

what? They had a chance to go

10:08

there with the big man, Francis Angana.

10:11

Cameroon was his country. And

10:13

then you had two champions

10:15

who were born in Nigeria,

10:17

Israel Addisania, and Khmer Usman.

10:19

Forget about the fact that. The

10:21

first one lives in New Zealand, the second

10:24

one is in the United States. They're born

10:26

there and proud of there and have family

10:28

there and they've gone back there. But you

10:30

could have featured either one of those three,

10:32

maybe even two of the three, if not

10:34

all three on the same card, it would

10:36

have been epic for the country of Africa

10:39

and they blew it. Well, okay, now you

10:41

got someone from South Africa, like now that's

10:43

the country that probably might have, might be

10:45

the most prep for, you know, this type

10:47

of. You know of an athletic event and

10:50

I say that maybe on being

10:52

on the border sounding ignorant because

10:54

let's not forget Egypt is also

10:56

in Africa Morocco is also in

10:58

Africa. I mean these are countries that

11:00

I see You know where

11:02

their infrastructure infrastructure probably

11:05

could Welcome a show like this

11:07

right I only say that because South

11:09

Africa has gotten to the point where

11:11

they hosted a World Cup, but I

11:13

feel like the you see is really

11:15

dropping the the ball here they already

11:17

have with the other African athletes I

11:19

made and I think they're doing it

11:21

right now with DDP. Yeah, I've

11:23

always wanted to try at least to

11:26

go to every continent and that's

11:28

my way into Africa I think

11:30

is maybe like Morocco or some

11:32

one of those places. Now

11:34

would it be one of those lazy

11:36

ham and Spain? Let me just take

11:38

the ferry to Morocco and I'm back

11:41

the same day Or hey, I want

11:43

to spend a week here, maybe dive

11:45

into some other countries and really

11:47

really soak in Africa No, I

11:50

wouldn't go to too many countries

11:52

at Morocco Egypt Maybe South Africa,

11:54

I don't know, but yeah, I'm not

11:56

trying to go to chat or some

11:59

shit like that I

12:01

see Kenya's got some beautiful beaches. Yeah,

12:04

I think they got other stuff too,

12:06

you know. All right, what else here?

12:08

That's, I think there's really not much

12:11

else to say. We know Hamzashamaa is

12:13

literally next. I don't see how he

12:15

wouldn't get the title shot, other than

12:17

injury, or he just can't get into

12:20

the country where the USC has to

12:22

make this fight. But I think the

12:24

USC will find a way to accommodate

12:26

it. I could honestly just see D.D.P.

12:29

versus as long as I'm Shamaab and

12:31

Abu Dhabi later this year, or maybe

12:33

in the summer they go to Riyadh,

12:35

who knows? As far as Strickland, what's

12:38

next for him, I think the guy's

12:40

nailed it on SBC earlier. I like

12:42

him versus Otisania. They got a little

12:44

bit of beef, and I think Rosarak's

12:47

one of them, and then the other

12:49

one takes a big fall, and who

12:51

knows if he wins he wins the

12:54

fight, maybe they can do. highly anticipated

12:56

and I think they would do well.

12:58

I think they would have that heat

13:00

that we talk about and it'd be

13:03

good for all the parties while they're

13:05

out of the kind of out of

13:07

the title picture which is whatever they

13:09

currently are. You got Hans LeShamaio, Kyle

13:12

Borayo, and other middleweights who are just

13:14

making too much noise right now for

13:16

us to even utter their names. I

13:18

think it'd be interesting to see what

13:21

exactly you can do with Sean Strickland

13:23

because all that makes sense. It looks

13:25

good on paper. But how does Sean

13:28

Strickland sell fights, right? The things that

13:30

he says, right now, he didn't back

13:32

it up. I don't want to hear

13:34

it at a death. None of that

13:37

shit happened over the weekend, right? So

13:39

how is he actually going to sell

13:41

the fight? Yeah, good point. The Komen

13:43

event featured Jean Way Lee defending her

13:46

title against Tatiana Sorez. And she just

13:48

dominated her. The first trial was pretty

13:50

competitive. And Tatiana proved that, you know,

13:52

the wrestling's there, she can get her

13:55

down, she can hold her down. She

13:57

didn't really damage her though. And in

13:59

fact, John... made a little bit of

14:01

a comeback, but regardless, that was a

14:04

good round for Tanteanswares. But after that,

14:06

once Jean-Wéli had a good beat on

14:08

these takedown attempts, you know, all that

14:11

work against the fence and she nullified

14:13

it, it really shut down Tanteanswares because

14:15

when they would separate and strike, Jean-Wéli

14:17

was getting the best of her. Tanteana

14:20

didn't have a striking arsenal like Jean-Wélii

14:22

does. Therefore I felt like the rest

14:24

of the fight was kind of like

14:26

a little bit of a rinse and

14:29

repeat and slowly you can see Tatiana's

14:31

gas tank dwindling a lot faster than

14:33

the champion and then her face could

14:35

show her face showed disappointment. I don't

14:38

know if I want to say she

14:40

broke her because Tatiana is a wrestler

14:42

and wrestlers rarely break. They find ways

14:45

to keep chugging along. But

14:47

in essence I could tell she was

14:49

done even at the end of round

14:52

three as round four progressed I didn't

14:54

see a comeback Because I had already

14:56

seen round one should he get her

14:59

should she get her done down? Excuse

15:01

me. I don't think she can do

15:03

anything with it The only thing would

15:06

have been was is she exposed her

15:08

back I could have seen possibly Tatiana

15:10

hitting some sort of a late submission.

15:12

Maybe like misha Tate hit Overholly home,

15:15

but like I say she just looked

15:17

dejected past 15 minutes Yeah, big time.

15:19

You know, she gave you everything she

15:22

had, but it wasn't enough. And almost

15:24

like a miscalculation in the sense of,

15:26

I guess, what it takes to be

15:29

champion. Because if you look at Jung

15:31

Weyli, aside from all the skills that

15:33

she possesses, the adjustments that she makes,

15:36

that cardio is absolutely insane. And I

15:38

don't know that Tatyon Aswar has had

15:40

anything near that. And she maybe didn't

15:42

expect to be on her back for

15:45

most of this fight. If you look

15:47

at her fight experience, you know, it's

15:49

11 fights. It's really not that much

15:52

in this sport, but the amount of

15:54

time that she's been doing this, the

15:56

amount of time that she's been wrestling,

15:59

I thought would... of nullify that, but

16:01

you could tell, especially in rounds

16:03

three, four, and five, that maybe

16:05

that experience, this was a little

16:07

bit of a lesson to her,

16:09

and she's got to make some big

16:11

adjustments if she ever wants to

16:14

be back in that situation. What

16:16

she needs is Jean-Wey Lee to

16:18

go up a division or to

16:20

somehow be out of the picture, but as

16:22

long as Jean-Wey Lee is there, I

16:24

think that's a tough, tough task for

16:26

her to ever get a belt. Talisantechera

16:29

defeated Justin Tofa. Jimmy Crut

16:31

defeated Hodolfo Bolato. Jake Matthews

16:33

defeated Francisco Prado. None of

16:35

those fights really got me

16:37

too excited. Although I am

16:39

excited about Talisanteshera. He looks

16:42

like a beast man. He's

16:44

six, seven. Big. He destroyed

16:46

Justin Tofa. He's now one

16:48

and one of you. See. So I gotta

16:50

give him some prompts. He did

16:53

make me feel like,

16:55

you know. I gained

16:57

something from tuning into

16:59

this card. Gabriel Santos,

17:01

Tom Nolan, Wang Kong,

17:03

Alexandra, Patoporia, wrongs you,

17:05

Jonathan, McAuliffe, and Quinlan

17:07

Skalid, Skelid, Salkid,

17:10

or something like that, they

17:12

all got wins. The bonuses

17:14

went to, uh, wrongs you and

17:16

Cody Steele for fight of the

17:19

night. In Talisin Tichera,

17:21

and Quinlin, Salclid

17:23

for performances of the night.

17:25

Lot of decisions out of the first

17:28

seven fights, five went to a

17:30

decision and they were all one-sided

17:32

goes was another thing I noticed

17:34

as I was blasting through there. Then we

17:36

get to the main card and Matthews

17:39

versus Prado was a

17:41

decision, pretty one-sided. Crut

17:43

versus Balato, that one had

17:45

a little bit of excitement because

17:47

Crute crushed them in the first

17:49

round and then Balato came storming

17:52

back. But they were both kind of tired

17:54

and crux coming off three losses. I don't

17:56

know much about Balato. You know what I'm saying?

17:58

It was hard to you know So going

18:00

in other than just watching the two

18:02

guys show a lot of heart and

18:05

see if one of them can pull

18:07

it out And then we're told it

18:09

was a draw, you know It was

18:11

like getting a root canal dude on

18:14

Saturday. You just lay in there watching

18:16

and hoping it's just over quickly Cody

18:18

steel though wrongs is holy shit dude

18:20

that fight was bananas those guys who

18:23

were just launching scuds left and right

18:25

dude crazy crazy fight Yeah Yeah, and

18:27

that's why they got their 50 G's

18:29

each. But again, keep an eye on

18:32

Palestine to share. I'm pretty pumped up

18:34

about him. Now is a good time

18:36

to get to our guest. Chaos Williams

18:38

has got a fight coming up against

18:41

Gabriel Bonfime. This Saturday, you'll see two,

18:43

excuse me, you'll see five, uh, you'll

18:45

see Five Night, 251. And they're at

18:47

the Apex in Las Vegas. We'll be

18:50

right back with Chaos Williams. What's

19:05

going on junkie nation gorgeous George

19:07

and goes always deliver the big fun

19:09

names in today's case? We get to

19:11

talk to chaos Williams Who's got a

19:14

fight coming up against one of the

19:16

bone theme brothers? They are set to

19:18

get down here in February Well, we're

19:21

one day away. So in two weeks

19:23

at the USC Apex. It's Gabriel bone

19:25

theme against chaos. How are you doing?

19:28

You excited about fighting in the

19:30

apex? Absolutely, man. You know I'm the

19:32

apex predator You know, they called the

19:34

right person for the job. I hear

19:37

you, but at some point, you know,

19:39

you're like a good six, seven fights

19:41

in and a lot of people will

19:44

enjoy you fighting. I'd love to see

19:46

like how USC 311 was at that

19:48

into a dome in LA. That looked

19:51

pretty cool, man. I think you

19:53

deserve that type of environment, you know,

19:55

hopefully coming up maybe after this fight.

19:57

Absolutely, man, you know, it's got. I

20:00

don't really get to, you know, I've

20:02

been there in front of the fans,

20:04

you know, my debut was on a,

20:06

I think it was a paper view,

20:08

I fought on a couple paper view,

20:10

so, you know, I don't really get

20:12

to, You know, I don't really get too caught

20:14

up in that, you know what I mean, because,

20:17

you know, my main objective is go out there,

20:19

perform, be my best. And I feel

20:21

like if I go out there, keep performing,

20:23

just keep racking these bodies up, keep rocking

20:25

these highlights up, that just make the people

20:27

want to see me even more. So when

20:29

I do go into these arenas, when I

20:32

do go into, you know, paper views or whatever,

20:34

you know, it's more of a treat.

20:36

Hey, let's getting. Your only setbacks have

20:38

been to Randy Brown and Michelle Paheda.

20:40

What did you learn from those fights?

20:43

And now going forward, if you were

20:45

to beat Bonfim, the opposition just keeps

20:47

getting tougher and tougher and tougher. How

20:49

will you know that you're ready to

20:52

take that next step and succeed?

20:54

I mean, you know, I feel like it's more of

20:56

a, I put the work in, I believe in

20:58

myself, I believe in my talent. I

21:00

think it's more so, you know, just the

21:02

IQ, just going in there with these guys.

21:05

being more, you know, I'm getting older, I'm

21:07

getting wiser. So just going in there and

21:09

just taking a little bit from every little

21:11

fight, man. What I learned from the Michel

21:13

Pierre fight was pretty much, you know,

21:16

dealing with adversity. And just more, I just

21:18

figured out more about myself and also don't

21:20

leave it to the judges. Same with the

21:22

Randy fight, you know, I thought I really

21:24

did enough to win, but, you know, it's fights,

21:26

you just can't leave it to the judges, man,

21:28

if you really want to know you got to

21:30

do what you got to do. But, you know,

21:32

just little things in those fights,

21:35

man, that, uh, that, that, that kind

21:37

of, when I watched it over

21:39

and over again, it was just

21:41

little things that kind of switched

21:44

it, like, with the Pierre fight,

21:46

you know, I'm up in the

21:48

striking over, like all three rounds.

21:50

And then, like, that last, what,

21:52

30 seconds he took me down

21:54

and that kind of gave him the

21:56

fight. You know, I'm up in the

21:59

striking, you know, and he was able

22:01

to get up under me. As far

22:03

as with the Randy fight, you know,

22:05

it's a pretty close fight. And, you

22:08

know, it's just little things, man, little

22:10

things that I just had to just

22:12

get better with. And, you know, coming

22:14

into this fight, I'm ready for whatever,

22:17

I'm gonna see, so. You debuted in

22:19

the U.S.C. through the pandemic, injury or

22:21

did you decide to hold back and

22:24

maybe just get better at your craft

22:26

before going on a run of fights

22:28

like what I mean it was a

22:30

little bit of both you know what

22:33

I'm saying but it was more so

22:35

just getting everything right outside of outside

22:37

of the fight like I told you

22:39

know time and time again you know

22:42

I just got to make sure everything

22:44

A1 you know I'm the type of

22:46

fighter man I feel like Not too

22:48

many fighters on my level. And I'm

22:51

not just talking about skills, I'm talking

22:53

about like mentally, you know, like where

22:55

I get to mentally is, I'm just

22:58

on my whole different path, man. It's

23:00

like the things that I had to

23:02

get through to get here. You know,

23:04

like I had to get, nothing was

23:07

given to me. You know, I had

23:09

to get, nothing was given to me.

23:11

You know, I had to get everything

23:13

out, nothing was given to me. You

23:16

know, I had to be in this,

23:18

whatever it. you know, it just it

23:20

just made me a better, better athlete,

23:22

a better competitor. But as far as,

23:25

like I said, taking time off, I

23:27

always make sure I'm the best me

23:29

when I'm in there. Because I got

23:32

a lot of people that spending harder

23:34

money to bet on me, come see

23:36

me fight. And just I just want

23:38

to give myself my best me when

23:41

I'm going into the fight. So it's

23:43

just like it's no What I want

23:45

to say man, it's no like distractions.

23:47

I'm all the way locked in like

23:50

right now. I'm all the way locked

23:52

in and I'm counting days. I can't

23:54

wait to go out here and show

23:56

the fence What they've been missing? And

23:59

folks, you don't want to blink because

24:01

when Chaos is on, he really, really

24:03

moves quickly. Two fights ended within 30

24:05

seconds. Another one took 90 seconds. And

24:08

Bonfine's a pretty exciting fighter. So this

24:10

should be a really, really good one.

24:12

Folks coming up in two weeks at

24:15

the Apex will obviously give you all

24:17

the information as we get closer to the

24:19

start times, everything. Nice, nice card that they

24:21

have going on on the 15th. All right

24:23

goes. What do you have for our for

24:25

our guess. Chaos Williams. Chaos Williams. Chaosa,

24:27

this fight is a little bit more

24:29

like on the shorter notice, right? And

24:31

Bonfin's a tough, tough character, he's a

24:34

tough fighter. What is your reaction now

24:36

when you get these types of calls,

24:38

they give you your opponent, is, does

24:40

it kind of feel the same no

24:42

matter who it is or does everybody

24:45

present something different as

24:47

far as what you feel when you hear

24:49

the opponent? I mean, all the same to

24:51

me, you know, respectfully, you know,

24:53

respectfully, you know, as a fighter,

24:55

you got to believe. And, you know, I'm

24:57

going on here to make a statement. I'm going on here

24:59

to make a statement because I know what I'm gonna do.

25:01

And I know what I'm capable of doing. And that's what

25:03

I'm going to go do. So, you know, he, he's just another

25:06

person in the way, man. You know, they gave me a

25:08

16 in one test to complete in three weeks. And three

25:10

weeks, man, I'm about to let my action speak for myself.

25:12

You know, I could talk, I could talk all day, but at the talk

25:14

all day, but at the time all day, but at the time, but at

25:16

the end of the end of the end of the end of the end

25:18

of the end of the day, you, you, you, you, you, you, but at the,

25:20

you, you, you, but at the, you, True, even training, training

25:23

up into the fight. Help, you

25:25

help you win a fight, but

25:27

you got to go out and win a

25:29

fight, man. So, you know, my actions are

25:31

going to speak for myself. They're

25:33

going to see what I

25:36

got to say February 15th.

25:38

George mentioned your destructive path and

25:40

what you've done to some of these

25:42

fires before. When you get the name

25:44

and you play it out in your

25:46

head, how soon before you see like

25:48

what's actually going to happen?

25:51

You know, my coaches and everything, we

25:53

always put a game plan together

25:55

for whoever. The thing is, just like

25:57

Mike Tyson say, man, everybody got a

25:59

plan. So they go get punched, man. So,

26:01

you know, I'm kind of like that type of

26:03

fighter. I'll just adjust to the fight. I take

26:06

what they give me. And, you know, I just

26:08

go in there and just do me, man. I'll

26:10

just like transform in there, man. I'll be locked

26:12

in. Like, when I'm staring into, when I'm staring

26:14

into it, when I'm staring at my opponent, I'm

26:17

staring at my self and just like a... It's

26:19

like an utter, I can't even say it, man.

26:21

Out of body experience? Yeah, it's like an out

26:23

of body experience, man. It's like I just transform

26:26

and I just be in its own. So it's

26:28

just like when I'm in there, man, it's like

26:30

I see everything, I just see everything before it

26:32

coming. If somebody make a mistake, they gotta pay,

26:34

you know, and all it take is one shot.

26:37

That's all it take. You know, some of my

26:39

best days come from. when I'm speaking to somebody

26:41

like you and sometimes they'll say that was a

26:43

great question or that was a fun interview or

26:45

like if the boss says hey you had a

26:48

good day today or your co-worker gives you a

26:50

fist bump for you because of what you've been

26:52

able to accomplish so far in the UFC you're

26:54

a guy that when people see the name pops

26:56

up they want to watch have you gotten that

26:59

from say the in a white the matchmakers have

27:01

they ever expressed like what you kind of mean

27:03

to the company you've ever gotten one of those

27:05

fist bumps bumps before? I mean, absolutely a few

27:08

times, man, you know, and I think that's just

27:10

me being myself, man, I'm authentic, I'm just me,

27:12

you know, and I think people cherish that and

27:14

appreciate that, man, because in this world, man, you

27:16

got a lot of copycats, you got a lot

27:19

of want to be, you got a lot of

27:21

people who are scared to speak their minds, scared

27:23

to be their self, and I'm just me, you

27:25

know, I'm coming as I am, I speak, I

27:27

talk, I talk, I talk, I talk, how I

27:30

talk, I talk, I talk, I talk, I talk,

27:32

I address how I address how I address how

27:34

I mean, I'm me, I'm me, I address how

27:36

I'm me, I'm me, I address how I'm me,

27:38

I'm me, I address how I'm me, I'm me,

27:41

I address how I'm me, I'm me, I'm me,

27:43

I'm me, I'm me, I, I dress, I, I

27:45

and people see that, you know, I'm not just

27:47

an ordinary person, I'm not an ordinary fighter, I'm

27:50

extraordinary. So, February 15th, I'm about to go out

27:52

here and remind people, it's been a minute, but

27:54

we're about to go out here and show everybody.

27:56

I'm gonna share a story of something that happened

27:58

to me at the supermarket. at the other day.

28:00

I was walking in, was this guy

28:03

in a suit, he was on

28:05

the phone, he dropped kind of

28:07

like a wrapper of something, I

28:09

don't know, probably like Burger King

28:11

or something, and a kid,

28:13

probably maybe 12, 13 years old,

28:15

went, picked up the wrapper, put

28:18

it in the trash, and he told

28:20

the guy, you could be better. And the

28:22

guy kind of like looked back

28:24

and said, you know what, you're

28:26

right. My question for you were

28:29

like, man. They were right, I could be

28:31

better, I could be doing something differently. When's

28:33

last time that's happened to you? I mean

28:35

all the time for real, you know, behind the scenes,

28:37

man, I'm always, and I appreciate everybody that,

28:39

you know, one thing about it, man, I

28:41

never get comfortable, you know, I

28:43

never get comfortable, you know, I never get comfortable,

28:45

you know, I never get comfortable, I want

28:47

to come to my, like, people don't, they

28:50

just see what I got going on behind the

28:52

scenes, behind the scenes, they don't see, they

28:54

don't see, The wrestling rounds, they don't see the judicious

28:56

rounds, they don't see the the strict conditioner, you know

28:58

what I'm saying? They don't see the late nights, the

29:00

diets, you know what I'm saying? They don't, they don't

29:03

see everything, but it's like it's always room for

29:05

improvement. And one thing about me, I'm always trying

29:07

to improve and get better and just be the

29:09

best me I can be, you know, and I got people around

29:11

me that tell me when I'm slipping, they'd be

29:13

like, like, like, like, like, you got a little

29:15

bit too comfortable too comfortable, like, like, like, like,

29:17

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, You doing,

29:19

like, bro, you need to, you know, get to

29:21

this or do this and do that. So it's

29:23

like, you know, say if I'm in Vegas or

29:25

if I'm in Vegas or I'm on Miami or

29:27

something, I'm just having fun, it's like, man,

29:30

let me get back to the trenches. You

29:32

know, let me get back to the trenches,

29:34

man, and let me, let me go back

29:36

to the trenches, man, and let me, let

29:38

me, go back to the trenches, man, let

29:40

me, let me, let me, let me, let me,

29:42

let me, go back, go back, go back, go back,

29:44

go back, go back, go back, go back, go back,

29:47

go back, like a lot of my wins I see

29:49

with my coaches and stuff and even myself I find

29:51

things like I ain't like that or I couldn't did

29:53

better with that you know I'm always looking to

29:55

improvement I'm always looking to get better man

29:57

because I'm not just here just to just

29:59

a fight because get a check. You know

30:02

what I'm saying? You know what I

30:04

mean? I'm here to inspire. I'm here

30:06

to dominate and I'm here to, you

30:08

know, be the best, be one of

30:10

the best in the world, not the

30:12

best ever. You know what I'm saying?

30:14

As far as, you know, in the

30:16

division and just, you know, just for

30:18

myself. So, you know, I just want

30:21

to give myself, you know, give them

30:23

all. You know, you're definitely one of

30:25

the more entertaining fighters out there. And

30:27

that's why I kind of missed the

30:29

fact that you didn't fight as much

30:31

the last few years, but you're back,

30:33

all right? And I did want to

30:35

ask you because we told us about

30:37

the real estate last time. This time

30:40

I want to talk about the fits.

30:42

How much work do you put into

30:44

the fits? Folks, you got to follow

30:46

Chaos on Instagram. Chaos Williams with a

30:48

K. He's traveling, but he's looking pretty

30:50

good, man. The one in New York.

30:52

Is that like a couple grand that

30:54

you're wearing? Hey look see everybody gonna

30:56

think I'm gonna tell you how much

30:59

it costs but the thing is like

31:01

I that's why I put the caption

31:03

see I said I forgot the caption

31:05

I put but it was like I

31:07

was like they don't understand my shine

31:09

because they don't understand my grind you

31:11

know I mean like coming from nothing

31:13

it's like you know like I said

31:15

man shining shining therapy sometimes you know

31:17

it's my money so I've been I've

31:20

made a lot of stupid purchases but

31:22

also invested money as well you know

31:24

so everything is not Just just for

31:26

you know what I mean? Like but

31:28

but but that coat cost me 7500

31:30

dollars You know and in a it's

31:32

amazing I like it and I think

31:34

they lied to me man They lied

31:36

I think they lied to me because

31:39

man they got me they had me

31:41

so because they was like man This

31:43

is one of four in the world

31:45

and that's how they got me because

31:47

I'm like shit. It's one of four

31:49

or I need it, but I don't

31:51

know I know how I took that

31:53

bus you know Yeah, no, I mean

31:55

I I love that one. I love

31:58

the big apple and when I saw

32:00

that jack I go yeah that's that's

32:02

a perfect jacket to roll around time

32:04

square Manhattan or whatever and I think

32:06

one time you were down in Jamaica

32:08

and you had a nice fit there

32:10

in the summer for that so you

32:12

wherever you travel you seem to really

32:15

really blend in with the city you're

32:17

at you like you're so soaked in

32:19

the culture and in the fashion I

32:21

guess got to man you know hey you

32:23

probably put me back it's in me man

32:25

it's in me and it's on me man

32:27

you know I got to let him know See,

32:29

they should have paid you for that picture, honestly. After I

32:31

bought that, I really, I kind of took a little, I took

32:34

a little, I took a little, I was, I kind of felt

32:36

a little stupid after that, like, man, I got a little, I

32:38

got a little, I got a little, I got a little, I got

32:40

a little, I got a little, I got a little, I got a

32:42

little hoofty on my back, man, let me, let me, I'm tripping,

32:44

you know, and I'm just like, and I'm just like, I'm just

32:46

like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm

32:48

just like, I'm just like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

32:50

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

32:52

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

32:54

like, like, like, like, like Now it's like

32:57

I kind of got that out

32:59

of my system a little

33:01

bit more, you know, like

33:04

I still buy things every

33:06

now and then, special

33:08

occasions, you know,

33:10

birthday, birthday maybe, new

33:12

years maybe, something

33:14

like that. But, you know, like

33:17

I was at the, um, the,

33:19

the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

33:21

the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

33:23

the, the, the, I met, the, Yeah,

33:25

how's he? Is he cool? Is

33:28

he a Z&MMA fan? Fight fan?

33:30

He's real cool, man. Real

33:32

solid guy, man. You know,

33:34

inspiration, man. And it's just

33:37

a pleasure to meet, bumping

33:39

up people like that and

33:41

meet people like that. And,

33:43

you know, I'm looking forward

33:45

to, you know, going more

33:48

with him. Yeah. Underrated baller,

33:50

man. He's really, really good

33:52

back in the day with

33:54

the Pacers. In Hoopville, all

33:56

right, let me finish with

33:58

one last one. When you first

34:00

started, there was another chaos. Kind of

34:03

at the top, he was fighting for

34:05

titles and stuff. And he's now taking

34:07

a few L's, maybe he may be

34:09

out. Have you already surpassed that other

34:11

chaos? Or will you do it in

34:13

2025? And at some point, would those

34:15

two chaos meet ever? Would you ever

34:18

like to do that? I mean, you

34:20

know, I get credit where it's due.

34:22

I wouldn't say I surpassed him yet,

34:24

just because, you know, I still got

34:26

a lot to prove. You know, like

34:28

I get, like I said, get credit

34:30

where it's due, man. You know, he's

34:33

been in there, his resume, you know,

34:35

he's been in there, he did what

34:37

he needed to do, you know, he

34:39

been on the down end because, you

34:41

know, he, he fought some tough competition,

34:43

you know, he fought my boy book,

34:45

lost the book, you know, he ran

34:48

in the oosh, you know, I mean,

34:50

so I wouldn't say I surpassed him

34:52

yet, but, you know, you know, you

34:54

know, we on the way. we're in

34:56

the way and you know it's God

34:58

playing if we if that fight come

35:00

about and you know I could continue

35:03

to do what I got to do

35:05

have a great year like I plan

35:07

on having it shoot I might end

35:09

up seeing them this at the end

35:11

of this year too you know I'm

35:13

saying chaos versus chaos you know and

35:15

I like it that's an honest assessment

35:17

I think it'd be such a big

35:20

fight buildup um between the two of

35:22

you so yeah maybe that maybe that

35:24

will happen one day I don't know

35:26

well yeah well yeah man like You

35:28

know, like I say, much respect to

35:30

him, you know, I got to make

35:32

it past bomb theme first and two

35:35

weeks and after that, then we can

35:37

start chipping and getting closer to, you

35:39

know what I'm saying, fighting Kobe, so.

35:41

Folks, tune in, please. This has Canineer

35:43

and Rodriguez, Robocop at the top. Calvin

35:45

caters back against Yusuf Zalow, the other

35:47

Bonfine brothers fighting that day as well.

35:50

So it's Edmund Shabazian, Hadojo-Hoe-We-Rella, Julia Vila,

35:52

a lot of top fighters. But this

35:54

match of Gabriel-bonfine against Chaos Willing should

35:56

be a good one. We got 16

35:58

and 1 against 15 and 3. It's

36:00

at the U.C. Apex and it's on

36:02

ES PM. Thank you, Chaos for the

36:05

time. It's always great catching up with

36:07

you, my man. Thank you. All right,

36:09

we'll see you. Yeah. All right, well,

36:11

there you go. That's Williams, pretty pumped

36:13

up about his fight, pretty pumped up

36:15

about his future, pretty pumped up about

36:17

a future, pretty pumped up about a

36:20

shot against Colby Covington, possibly. But first

36:22

things first, Gabriel Bomphene, and the Bomping

36:24

brothers are pretty awesome. I like them.

36:26

I like them. I like them. I

36:28

think it could be a barn burner.

36:30

Yeah, I think it's my pick. It

36:32

was my pick on spinning back click.

36:35

But what I like about Chaos is

36:37

he will tell you, look, one thing

36:39

is the guy that's in front of

36:41

me right now, that's what I'm focused

36:43

on. But he's also willing to talk

36:45

about what could be coming around the

36:47

corner from him. I know a lot

36:50

of fighters are maybe superstitious or they

36:52

feel like it's disrespectful. Hey, look, we

36:54

do this in life all the time.

36:56

And I love that he was able

36:58

to kind of open up on up

37:00

on that. and let us know what

37:02

his future plans are past this fight.

37:05

This dude, if he can get everything

37:07

dialed in, he can be a force.

37:09

Yeah, it's true. And that jacket, 7500

37:11

bucks, what were your thoughts on that?

37:13

What's the most you ever spent on

37:15

an article of clothing? Maybe 200? I

37:17

could see like 300 if you count

37:20

like an Apple watch or something like

37:22

that, right? Yeah, that's got maybe I

37:24

would know Would you ever let's say

37:26

you hit it being something? Could you

37:28

bring yourself to to just do that?

37:30

I guess no, and I'll tell you

37:32

why Because I don't know that most

37:34

people would appreciate it like when he

37:37

said that if I look at the

37:39

jacket I would have never guessed 7500

37:41

ever I would have thought maybe and

37:43

this is me just taking a shot

37:45

two grand. I don't know you know

37:47

like there's people that'll show watches all

37:49

the time And I don't know that

37:52

much of a difference between a $50,000

37:54

watch and a $20,000 watch. I just

37:56

look at it and go, it's a

37:58

nice watch, you know. So I don't

38:00

think I would ever do it. And

38:02

it's funny because the watch, if

38:04

it just has a certain watch,

38:07

watchmaker's name, for some people, more

38:09

people, for some reason, more

38:11

people are glued to the name than

38:13

the watch. You can show someone

38:15

two identical gold watches,

38:17

right? And they're both, you know,

38:19

maybe got a couple of diamonds,

38:21

let's say one of them, one of

38:24

them, whatever. But then you put a

38:26

name on one of them. And all

38:28

of a sudden, it's funny how

38:30

humans are conditioned to go,

38:32

ooh, you got a fill in the

38:34

blank, you know what I'm saying? And

38:37

that watch may be like, yeah, let's

38:39

say it's the lowest Rolex of the

38:41

bunch, three grand, a submariner, or whatever.

38:43

And then this other one might have

38:45

a brand that's not recognized,

38:48

but it has a couple little diamonds,

38:50

and in the end it might be

38:52

worth eight, eight grand, but because the

38:55

Rolex is the Rolex name. It just

38:57

carries that weight, interesting. But

38:59

I like the jacket, but

39:01

yeah, I couldn't do

39:03

that. I just loved his honesty

39:05

though, where he said, man, I

39:08

had to really cut corners for

39:10

the next few months because I

39:12

took a hit there, you know? He took

39:14

it like a camp. He took it like

39:17

a chat. He said he graduated

39:19

from Gucci. Yes. Yeah, exactly.

39:22

In other news this week, or the

39:24

last few days, you know, we

39:26

discussed this on spinning back clicks,

39:28

so we'll just go over real

39:30

quick. $375 million will go to

39:32

a group of fighters that brought

39:34

a class action lawsuit against the

39:36

U.S.C. It finally got its last

39:39

approval of $375 million, according

39:41

to U.S. District Court Judge

39:43

Richard Boulware. He thought that was

39:45

the fair amount when he was

39:48

presented with 335 amount for the

39:50

case of Lee versus... Zufa LLC

39:52

and Johnson versus Zufa

39:54

LLC. He thought it wasn't

39:57

fair. So he separated the

39:59

two John versus LLC, sorry, Zufl

40:01

LLC will continue. This one's done and

40:03

he attacked on another 40 million. The

40:06

fighters seem happy. Had they gone to

40:08

court to a case in a trial,

40:10

this could have been zero or it

40:13

could have been a lot more, but

40:15

I think the fighters have had enough.

40:17

It's 11 years. It reminds me of,

40:20

do you remember the Dunes Hotel in

40:22

Las Vegas? it seemed like for 20

40:24

years if you drove by it there

40:27

was people out there picketing i think

40:29

it might have been the culinary union

40:31

or who who knows and i remember

40:33

we would go enough already whatever it

40:36

is you're fighting for is it worth

40:38

it like you know i i'm sure

40:40

not one person did all 20 years

40:43

every single shift but they kept rotating

40:45

and rotating and i think this was

40:47

a little bit of that you know

40:50

i'm sure athletes have entered a phase

40:52

in their life where maybe their kids

40:54

going to college Maybe they just want

40:57

to buy a house, you know, and

40:59

whatever they get from this, whether it's

41:01

20 million, or sorry, what was it

41:04

that I was reading 200, I can't

41:06

remember, whatever it may be, you know,

41:08

it could be, you know, fighters get

41:11

excited for $50,000 fighter than eye bonuses

41:13

and this will, this will definitely be

41:15

more than that, but at least they

41:18

finally had it and they can move

41:20

on. Yeah, remember the guys that are

41:22

actually running it. They get a bigger

41:25

piece of the pie. And look, the

41:27

UFC has the means to stretch this

41:29

out as long as they need to.

41:32

They can keep doing that. Fighters only

41:34

have so much patience. They only have

41:36

so much lifespan. They want to be

41:38

able to use this to spend on

41:41

their kids' education to buy a house.

41:43

They want to benefit from them. We've

41:45

already lost some people. I understand why

41:48

they did it. But trust me. Behind

41:50

closed doors. The U of C brass

41:52

their fist bumping that this is a

41:55

victory for them John Nash was asked

41:57

on Twitter his ad handle on X

41:59

I should say is at hey not

42:02

the face we've actually talked

42:04

to him before and he seems to

42:06

be one of the leading media

42:08

that has covered this in in

42:10

detail so when he was asked how

42:12

much is each fighter going to get

42:14

or is it a case-by-case

42:17

basis he answered every fighter is

42:19

different it's depending on how much

42:21

they are paid during the class

42:24

period and how many fights they

42:26

had. A fighter should get at

42:28

least 32% of what their total

42:31

bout compensation was during the

42:33

class period plus another 13,800 for

42:35

each U of C fight they

42:37

had. So right away if you had

42:39

10 fights during what was it

42:42

2010 to 2017 I believe that's

42:44

$138,000. In addition to 32%

42:46

of what your bout compensation

42:48

was. So some of this

42:50

could be very generous for...

42:52

a name like John Fitch who once fought

42:54

for the title. And then if you

42:57

were someone that maybe had five fights,

42:59

made it to 40 and 40 or

43:01

something, maybe yours won't be as lucrative.

43:04

But it'll be something and I think

43:06

it won't be anything less than,

43:08

except for extreme cases, I'm

43:10

talking about actual veterans, it

43:12

won't be anything less than

43:14

a fighter performance bonus or two.

43:17

And again, those have definitely

43:19

helped fighters in the past. Yeah. I

43:21

mean it's definitely worth what they're going

43:23

through it's been a minute though and

43:25

I mean in a way you're kind

43:27

of glad it's over and that whoever

43:29

gets to benefit from it does but

43:32

don't forget there's still another case out there

43:34

too. You already shared your thoughts on

43:36

Dominic Cruz his retirement and let me

43:39

share my screen cases I'm talking about

43:41

actual veterans it won't be anything

43:43

less than a fighter performance bonus

43:45

or two and again those have definitely

43:48

helped fighters in the past. Yeah,

43:50

I mean it's definitely worth what

43:52

they're going through. It's been a

43:54

minute though and I mean in

43:56

a way you're kind of glad

43:58

it's over and that whoever gets

44:00

benefit from it does. Don't forget

44:02

there's still another case out there

44:04

too. You already shared your thoughts

44:06

on Dominic Cruz, his retirement, let

44:08

me share mine. You know, he

44:10

was champion over at WEC with

44:12

two title defenses, came over to

44:14

the UFC and continued, you know,

44:16

a fine career there. It was

44:18

injury plagued, but he still managed

44:20

to get three more title defenses

44:22

across two more title reigns. because

44:24

he had to let go of

44:26

the title when Hennen Beryl was

44:28

the interim champ and then he

44:30

had to come back and win

44:32

it back. So the guy was

44:34

pretty resilient and he stayed in

44:36

the game even though he had

44:38

spells of like two, three, four

44:40

years with no activity. And to

44:43

do what he did was pretty

44:45

incredible. I see him with a

44:47

guy with five title offenses, which

44:49

is two more than Algerman Sterling

44:51

and also two more than T.J

44:53

Dillishaw. And he also has a

44:55

win over T.J. Dillishaw. So in

44:57

my mind, he's the greatest man

44:59

I've ever, and I wish him

45:01

a happy retirement. I'm really disappointed.

45:03

We didn't get to see him

45:05

fight one more time. But it

45:07

wasn't until the guys on as

45:09

you see kind of put in

45:11

perspective. What would you have gotten?

45:13

Really, it was more about I

45:15

guess that final yell from the

45:17

crowd. Maybe a finish would have

45:19

been nice if he won. He

45:21

could have also maybe taken a

45:23

loss. But what I'm saying is,

45:25

this doesn't really add to the

45:27

legacy. He's a Hall of Famer.

45:29

He's a legend. And it's been

45:31

Joseph, though. That would have been

45:33

special, but it's not gonna be

45:35

a 39 years of age. He

45:37

hung him up. I honestly, you

45:39

know, we were running out of

45:41

time on the show for these

45:43

topics, but that was a little

45:45

bit of my argument was when

45:47

you're that good for that good

45:49

for that long. The ability of

45:51

just soaking it all in one

45:53

last time knowing it's going to

45:55

be your last time I think

45:57

does hold a lot of value

46:00

and Rob Bont is kind of rejuvenated

46:02

a little bit. I think if

46:04

you go in there and you beat that

46:06

guy and you go out a little bit

46:08

differently than some of our heroes

46:11

that we've seen as of late, I

46:13

think it would have been nice for him.

46:15

I think it would have been nice for

46:17

him to carry that. But I think

46:19

he made the right call. I agree.

46:21

All right folks, we're gonna duck

46:23

out of here between the watch-along

46:25

SBC and doing the show. It's

46:28

been pretty taxing. On the personal

46:30

side as well, we've had a lot

46:32

going on. The Super Bowl, we'll give

46:34

the Eagles their flowers. They won, but

46:36

I think we all went to a

46:38

party. I think some people are dragging

46:40

today. And then we had our lovely

46:43

family from Peru and town. We've been

46:45

spending some time with them as well.

46:47

So we're cutting it about what, 10

46:49

minutes short of what we normally do,

46:52

but how many times we've gone over

46:54

for you guys. So we'll be back

46:56

on Thursday. ready and energized and ready

46:58

to tackle U.S.C. 251. And I'm sorry,

47:01

a lot of this also had to

47:03

do with the U.S.C. and just them

47:05

giving us a dud of a card

47:07

on paper. And it just didn't,

47:09

you know, aside from John Willie

47:12

and Strickland, or sorry, DDP

47:14

looking fantastic. I just don't

47:16

have too much that I'll carry with me,

47:18

you know, in terms of in the memory

47:21

bank from this card. Yeah. Go out and

47:23

be a champion everybody make the best out

47:25

of every day Don't just take up space

47:28

on this planet. That's why I say go

47:30

out and be a champion and we'll talk

47:32

to you soon