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Yeah, yeah, we waited a little

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bit more than usual, but I'm

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glad we did because we just

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did spinning back click our weekly

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live show on YouTube. Check it

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out. Me and Easter, 9 AM

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Pacific, every Monday, myself goes and

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some colleagues. We chop it up and

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talk MMA. So some of that's gonna

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carry over into this show. Should be

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a fun time. And then we also

0:57

have Josh Ritting House. who's

0:59

headlining PFL this Friday. The

1:02

PFL went from Thursday last

1:04

week to Friday this week, and

1:06

they'll be on ESPN2. If I'm not

1:09

mistaken, I'll make sure to get

1:11

that right for you when the

1:13

show starts, because they've been jumping

1:15

around, days, channels, all that shit.

1:18

We'll be right back to start

1:20

the show. Because

1:34

you know what I'm talking about though, right?

1:36

We ended with UFC 314 talk on spinning

1:38

back click a few minutes ago And I'm

1:40

pumped, you know, I'm always saying fight

1:43

week are you into it? This thing's

1:45

not even taking place in Vegas But

1:47

because of the names they've assembled because

1:49

of the fact that you see invested

1:52

in the card. It's deep. There's a

1:54

title fight. Dude. I'm buzzing man Yeah, I

1:56

know this is definitely one of the bigger

1:58

ones and it's what I think fight

2:01

fans want, it's what makes us pumped

2:03

up. That's why like, you know, we

2:05

just had a UFC card and

2:07

we're probably going to go through

2:09

it because that's our job, but

2:11

it's hard to focus on those

2:13

appetizers when you know that big

2:15

entree is just waiting. It's so

2:17

different from card to card, but

2:19

yeah, for sure, as far as

2:21

how much we have to pay

2:23

as fans, like this is one

2:25

where I gladly give up my

2:27

money because it's totally worth it.

2:29

I wish that you would do

2:31

their 12 to 14 paper views

2:33

per year. Sometimes I wish they

2:35

would just do away with fight

2:37

nights. And just every Tuesday, do

2:39

Dana White contender series and just

2:41

fill in some of those fights

2:43

from fight nights as part of

2:45

your contender series and just do

2:47

your contender series and just do

2:49

a Tuesday night of fights. I

2:51

guess you could take that on

2:53

the road or do it at

2:55

the Apex. Some of these fight

2:57

nights are so painful, but think

3:00

about it. trying to get on

3:02

into the you see right but

3:04

as your bonus that's Lorelne Murphy

3:06

and Josh Hammett so even more

3:08

reason to tune in on a

3:10

Tuesday so you got your rising

3:12

stars and then your big stars

3:14

and then the rest you start

3:16

loading them up on these paper

3:18

views or something or just less

3:20

fight nights I don't know I

3:22

I hope the you see and

3:24

their negotiations that are either ongoing

3:26

with the SPNN or that won't

3:28

be exclusive and they'll start talking

3:30

to others, they can kind of

3:32

make a shift in the sport

3:34

a little bit. I know I'm

3:36

all over the place here, talking

3:38

about 314, the fight night that

3:40

just took place, PFL. In fact,

3:42

let me fix some things. PFL,

3:44

let me get you that in

3:46

flow right now, I got it.

3:48

They're on this Friday, it's PFL

3:50

World Tournament too, first round, Tyla

3:52

Santos, and Juliana Velasquez, are at

3:54

the top of the top of

3:56

the top of the bill, so

3:58

it's fly weight, so it's fly

4:00

weight, so it's fly weight, and

4:02

men's fly weight, and men's. ban

4:04

on weight. So Leandro Hugo and

4:06

Josh Rittinghouse are also on the

4:08

car. in fact, they might be

4:10

the main event. We might have

4:12

it wrong on the junkie tab,

4:14

but it's on ESP and 2

4:16

and ESP and plus. Premium started

4:18

8 p.m. Eastern, main card starts

4:20

at 11 p.m. Eastern. All right,

4:22

so just so we can end

4:24

on 314. Let's just cover the

4:26

fight night real quick. The Rome

4:28

Murphy defeated Josh Evan. I was

4:30

a little harsh on the Rome

4:32

Murphy fellow. I think he's a

4:34

Manchester United fan, but I know

4:36

he's from Manchester. He beat Josh

4:38

Emmett, but I feel like he,

4:40

uh, he won on five field

4:42

goals. You know, it's five rounds,

4:44

and it was like, he just

4:46

scored three rounds, three points, uh,

4:48

you know, five, five field goals

4:50

would be 15 points. It was

4:53

no TD's. Yeah, no, I understand

4:55

that analogy. I think it's fitting.

4:57

What I don't know is how

4:59

to control my emotions regarding it,

5:01

because... At the end of the

5:03

day, the guy did what he

5:05

needed to kind of move his

5:07

career forward. He got the victory

5:09

over a very dangerous fighter. So

5:11

I give him props there. I

5:13

give him props in the sense

5:15

that he stuck to his game

5:17

plan at times when Josh tried

5:19

to lure him into what would

5:21

benefit Josh. He didn't take the

5:23

bait. And I think that's hard

5:25

for fighters to do sometimes. We

5:27

talk about fight IQ and I

5:29

commend him for that. The only

5:31

problem is yes. It's not just

5:33

those two. There's a bunch of

5:35

people that are watching at home.

5:37

There's some people that are in

5:39

that little Apex and they probably

5:41

were left wanting more. So when

5:43

you want to advance in the

5:45

company, these type of performances aren't

5:47

the ones that do them. Maybe

5:49

you get a little bit of

5:51

a mulligan, but I think we

5:53

probably need more from him. And

5:55

then his reaction to it kind

5:57

of getting booed. He didn't really

5:59

like it. So that was a

6:01

little odd. as well. So I

6:03

don't know, you know, like if

6:05

that 10 second clapper went off

6:07

and and they pointed to the

6:09

ground and they went crazy. he

6:11

got knocked out we'd probably be

6:13

going was he is he a

6:15

moron you know who's probably on

6:17

his way to a victory what's

6:19

he doing it's kind of a

6:21

give and take but he's the

6:23

one that has to live with

6:25

that decision and he's had a

6:27

lot of decisions that's the thing

6:29

so it's always gonna be that

6:31

way you know no matter who

6:33

you're fighting but he's literally had

6:35

five straight decisions and yes he

6:37

did get hurt a couple times

6:39

by him it he felt that

6:41

So maybe that recited with him

6:43

and it is important to get

6:46

your hand raised. He won't he

6:48

went home with two checks and

6:50

went home with one check But

6:52

let me tell you something Josh

6:54

Emmett is 40 years old He

6:56

I don't know how much time

6:58

he has left, but he was

7:00

once in the real Murphy shoes

7:02

where he was possibly a clear-cut

7:04

number one contender and guess what

7:06

he didn't get the shot and

7:08

look at the road Miranda vals

7:10

really a balah Muhammad had to

7:12

take Do you want that little

7:14

Murphy? That's why I'm saying there

7:16

just has to be some times

7:18

where you roll the dice and

7:20

I don't know. It's tough. Like

7:22

I say frustrating and yeah. It's

7:24

very tough. I mean, I act

7:26

obviously I get what you're saying.

7:28

I get the sentiment, the outlook

7:30

on things. But if I just

7:32

transport myself into his body. and

7:34

knowing the damages that can be

7:36

caused. You have a shoulder injury

7:38

right now, right? And you think

7:40

about what that, how that affects

7:42

you from day to day, but

7:44

you don't make your living off

7:46

your shoulder, right? Like you can

7:48

still do the show and have

7:50

a painful shoulder. The injuries that

7:52

can come out of these situations,

7:54

the things that you hear like.

7:56

you know, Brandon Royville talking about

7:58

concussions, spiders not sounding the same.

8:00

If I put myself in his

8:02

shoes, I wonder, would I have

8:04

done that? It's easy for me

8:06

to say here, but if I

8:08

were him, would I have done

8:10

that? I think maybe I probably

8:12

would have done what he did.

8:14

But yes, there are things that

8:16

don't pay off. The UFC doesn't

8:18

like. that type of thing. So

8:20

that climb is probably going to

8:22

be a lot bigger for him,

8:24

but it's difficult for me to

8:26

say, if I am him, then

8:28

it's my body on the line

8:30

that I would, I would make

8:32

those extra tweaks and changes. I

8:34

don't know that I would. Well,

8:36

another thing Danny pointed out in

8:39

spinning back, like, was Diego Lopez

8:41

has an early loss to Mozar

8:43

Evloaf. Since then, neither guy's loss.

8:45

And Lopez is fighting for the

8:47

title and Ev Lo Evism. So

8:49

yeah, you're right. Your health, your

8:51

brain, your record, whatever. You preserved

8:53

it, but did you make a

8:55

splash when you had a chance?

8:57

When you were the main event

8:59

at a U of C, I

9:01

felt like Lauren Murphy did not.

9:03

And he did go home with

9:05

two checks, but I would even

9:07

argue. I don't want to go

9:09

over two checks, but I would

9:11

even argue. I don't want to

9:13

go overboard. I wouldn't say he

9:15

took a step back. I would

9:17

say he won and just stayed

9:19

even keel. You know, and here's

9:21

a weird thing too was like

9:23

look at Brandon Marino. See, he's

9:25

got equity from being a finisher

9:27

in other fights and just for

9:29

being exciting. He the other day

9:31

went to a decision, you know,

9:33

in Mexico, but he's getting a

9:35

title. Well, I shouldn't say that.

9:37

We know that Brandon Royville and

9:39

Manel Kappa have been matched up.

9:41

Very good chance. Alexander Pentosia might

9:43

now be fighting for the fourth

9:45

time of Brandon Marino. So the

9:47

U.C. is being a little bit

9:49

more explicit without saying it and

9:51

what they're looking for. That's kind

9:53

of what I'm grading him on

9:55

is I don't think he fulfilled

9:57

that. Other winners from the spy

9:59

card. In fact, I'll just give

10:01

you all the winners and then

10:03

goes can select what he wants

10:05

to wax on in the combant

10:07

event. Pat 17 defeated Joe Anderson

10:09

Brito via decision Lee Chang-ho who

10:11

modeled himself after her behavior made

10:13

off, but going forward he wants

10:15

to be like The machine arrived

10:17

to Vazrini. He defeated Cortarius, Romanius,

10:19

excuse me. Brad Tavares, decisioned Gerald

10:21

Meershardt, O. Day Osborne, defeated Luis

10:23

Jerule, Torres Finney, defeated Robert Valentin,

10:25

Dion Barbosa, defeated Diana Balveda, Reese

10:27

McKee, defeated Daniel Frunza, Loma Lugboni,

10:29

defeated Estella Nunez. Victor Henry defeated

10:31

Pedro Falcao, Martine Boudai, defeated Uran

10:34

Sati Valdiev, and Toledo Alkonsar defeated

10:36

Vanessa Demopolis. The first four fights

10:38

goes while I'm watching final four,

10:40

all decisions. Then we had the

10:42

rest stoppage. It was the doctor

10:44

really, you know, he stopped it,

10:46

but rest provided the damage. The

10:48

eye. Deanna Barbosa got herself a

10:50

submission. Nice. She did good work

10:52

in the first round. Then we

10:54

got to the main card. Out

10:56

of those six fights, four went

10:58

to a decision. It was just

11:00

really, really a slow night, man.

11:02

Yeah, a little bit. But I

11:04

was entertained for a lot of

11:06

them. I thought they were decent

11:08

fights, but the problem with some

11:10

of the decisions were... They weren't,

11:12

there wasn't a lot of back

11:14

and forth, you know, like you

11:16

could kind of tell, like, we'll

11:18

start the first fight, the Demopolis

11:20

fight, you could just tell what

11:22

was gonna happen, rinse and repeat

11:24

over and over and over. But

11:26

when you're going up against March

11:28

madness, it's tough, man, and it

11:30

really felt like a long day,

11:32

dude. I don't know if it

11:34

hit you the same way it

11:36

hit me, but holy shit, like,

11:38

like, I felt like I was

11:40

molding into this chair into this

11:42

chair. That's a long time to

11:44

ask somebody to sit there and

11:46

watch fights on a weekend. Yeah,

11:48

it was a weird weekend. because

11:50

they've been balling and there's so

11:52

much fun to watch. The Dodgers

11:54

had a nice walk off I

11:56

think on Friday, also came back,

11:58

oh no they may have lost

12:00

yesterday, Philly gave them two losses,

12:02

I know that, they responded from

12:04

one of them, but the Dodgers

12:06

have been fun as well. Final

12:08

four was fucking epic unless you're

12:10

a Duke fan. That was a

12:12

bottle job if I ever saw

12:14

one. Manchester United versus Manchester City

12:16

was one of the biggest derbies

12:18

in Europe and the UK, that

12:20

was a dud. So yeah, I

12:22

hear what you're saying. There was

12:24

just, I don't know. Lacked energy.

12:27

My emotions, man, with all this

12:29

decisions and choke jobs or whatever.

12:31

Yeah. I was happy for O'Day

12:33

Osborne who has actually done a

12:35

few watch-alongs with us. His back

12:37

was to the wall. He won,

12:39

he had lost three in a

12:41

row and he not only got

12:43

the win, he got a finish,

12:45

he got a stoppage in the

12:47

process, good for him. And then

12:49

Brad Tavar is ties Michael Bissing

12:51

for most wins in middle-weight history.

12:53

Unfortunately, he went to a decision.

12:55

And I said, because look, as

12:57

a friend of his, I have

12:59

to be just as fair as

13:01

when I am with the road

13:03

Murphy. He goes to a decision

13:05

a lot. Early on, when he

13:07

hits you, you're like, oh, someone's

13:09

going to sleep. He does it

13:11

a lot. And then afterwards, it

13:13

seems like he tails off a

13:15

little bit, but man, that guy's

13:17

got some power. He was hidden,

13:19

Gerald Meershart, with some really, really,

13:21

really hard shots. Then Meershart started

13:23

tying him up, looking for the

13:25

takedown and Brad did well. You

13:27

could tell he trained hard for

13:29

him and trained well for avoiding

13:31

the takedowns. Risk control work clinch

13:33

work against the cage. He had

13:35

an answer for it every time

13:37

I just really wanted him to

13:39

get that finish at the end

13:41

because I thought Mirchart was kind

13:43

of broken and I thought the

13:45

the finish was there if he

13:47

went for it, but He got

13:49

his hand raise. He got two

13:51

checks. He's a little but he's

13:53

the team captain and a good

13:55

friend of ours. So congratulations to

13:57

ours. His career is a little

13:59

strange when you look at it

14:01

because you feel like just one

14:03

little tweak here and there and

14:05

it could have gone completely different.

14:07

But I felt that too. I

14:09

was actually pretty proud of his

14:11

performance. I feel like it was

14:13

a little bit of a rejuvenation

14:15

of sorts. Mershot doesn't get the

14:17

credit that he deserves. That is

14:20

a very tough out. And I

14:22

thought they had a great game

14:24

plan. I thought he did a

14:26

good job at. sticking to it,

14:28

but there were a couple times

14:30

where you just felt like he

14:32

could have maybe got him out

14:34

and it would have been nice

14:36

for him to get that. Yeah,

14:38

because that's 25 minutes of fighting,

14:40

you know. Or no, sorry, that

14:42

was the main event. That one

14:44

I wanted to finish too, but

14:46

yeah, Tavares had 50 minutes of

14:48

fighting. Didn't finish him, but he

14:50

is like I say in the

14:52

record books. He goes home with

14:54

two checks I wanted to go

14:56

home with three checks I wanted

14:58

to get a bonus and second

15:00

of bonuses This was an easy

15:02

one. There was only four finishes

15:04

and they gave it to all

15:06

four finishers Li Chang-ho who by

15:08

the way is just a beast

15:10

from South Korea. O-day Osborne good

15:12

for him Dion Barbosa with the

15:14

submission Reese McKee doctor stoppage, but

15:16

man he lumped up Man's eye

15:18

so congrats to all four of

15:20

them that was the 50K there

15:22

I'm calling a good there goes

15:24

talking about U of C on

15:26

the S P on 65 if

15:28

you are. Yeah, yeah, let's move

15:30

on. All right, so I'll tell

15:32

you what we'll divide the show

15:34

right now. I think it's a

15:36

good time to do our interview

15:38

with Josh Riddinghouse who's going to

15:40

be headlining PFL 2021. This is

15:42

the second week. It's called the

15:44

World Tournament, right? And he's fighting.

15:46

The Andro ego. They're out in

15:48

Orlando, Florida for this run of

15:50

fights, opening round, quarterfinals, whatever you

15:52

want to call it, eight fighters,

15:54

all competing for that $500,000, $500,000

15:56

cash winnings, I guess, at the

15:58

end, prize, I should say. is

16:00

also on the card and ESPN2's

16:02

got you covered. If you want

16:04

to just watch the main card

16:06

11 p.m. Eastern 8 a.m. Pacific

16:08

a little bit later but not

16:10

so bad on the Pacific time

16:12

zone. So we'll be right back

16:15

with Josh Rendinghouse. What's

16:30

going on Junky Nation? Gorgeous George

16:32

and goes catching up with the

16:34

Headliner for PFL, 2025, world tournament,

16:36

first round two. It's Josh Reddinghouse.

16:39

He's facing Leandro-Higo. We're gonna talk

16:41

about the Banumway division, which is

16:43

always popping no matter what promotion

16:46

you're talking about. Josh, that's a

16:48

nice responsibility, man. The headline, uh,

16:50

a PFL event in 2025. You

16:52

know, they're the, being that there's

16:55

PFL and Belatore talent. I like

16:57

it. I like it. Yeah, yeah,

16:59

big opportunity, feels right in my

17:02

mind. It's exciting. You know, it's

17:04

always exciting to be co-main, main

17:06

event on any show, but to

17:08

do it at that stage is

17:11

pretty cool. It's a trip because

17:13

usually the fighters always have their

17:15

fight gear. Right now, it looks

17:18

like we're talking to a commission

17:20

official or something like that. Do

17:22

you, are, are you like in

17:24

dad mode right now? I'm working

17:27

from home today, so I'm a

17:29

CPA during the day. So I'm

17:31

just trying to put out some

17:34

fires. You know, I got some

17:36

work meetings today. I got to,

17:38

you know, have a polo on

17:40

for it. Otherwise, I'm just, you

17:43

know, showing in normal, normal clothes.

17:45

Eight to five crunches numbers. After

17:47

that, he punches faces. I love

17:50

it. How long have you been

17:52

doing that? That's one of the

17:54

tougher field for, you know, to...

17:56

get schooling and then get into

17:59

and then have success in? Yeah, I

18:01

mean, I've been doing it. I mean, nine

18:03

years now, basically, you know,

18:06

whatever, I don't even remember

18:08

what year it was now when

18:10

I fought Marlin Marius. I was

18:12

like a senior in college, basically

18:14

finished that, finished that

18:17

out, got a job out of

18:19

college, trying to figure out if I could

18:21

do both. Somehow managed to like

18:23

keep doing both the whole time.

18:25

So here we are. Did you ever come

18:27

close to putting accounting to the side

18:30

and just focusing on it many many

18:32

many times? Yes. Yes What what eventually

18:34

stopped you just the numbers don't add

18:37

up or? Yeah I think so you

18:39

know it's a risky game to go

18:41

all in on MMA I think also

18:43

I just thought you know there wasn't

18:46

there was no reason I couldn't do

18:48

both and I thought you know if

18:50

I you know was UFC top 15 or

18:53

something I would consider you know, switching

18:55

things up, but just to do it

18:57

at such an early level in the career,

18:59

just didn't make a lot of sense.

19:02

You ever have a client talk some

19:04

smack? Almost start the border on like,

19:06

hey man, you want to take it

19:08

outside, talk about talk, little do they

19:11

know who you are? No, but nobody's really

19:13

talking smack. I mean, a lot of

19:15

them know, it's kind of cool. You

19:17

know, I'm sure some of them will

19:19

be watching here, but I've never had

19:22

to put anybody in check. your nickname

19:24

is the finisher but you can't get

19:26

that on day one so at what

19:28

point did you get the nickname who

19:30

gave it to you and you know

19:32

if you look at the resume there

19:34

are a lot of finishes so it's

19:37

well-deserved yeah for sure you

19:39

know never came up with

19:41

that my very first coach and

19:43

anime dubbed me that he did

19:45

a pro show and submitted the

19:47

results with my nickname the

19:49

finisher and I think I had I think

19:51

maybe it was my third pro fight or

19:53

something and I had finished like five amateur

19:56

fights and then my first three or four

19:58

pro fights and he just started calling that

20:00

and then lived up to it for

20:02

a while you know as you get

20:04

to the higher level it's hard to

20:07

finish guys but I still pride myself

20:09

in being able to do that. Let's

20:11

say I was a billionaire and I

20:13

wanted a goof and I said hey

20:16

Josh quit your job I'm gonna give

20:18

you 500 grand but going forward you're

20:20

Josh the mouse riding house. The mouse?

20:23

Yeah that's pretty funny I When I

20:25

was like in like ninth grade, I

20:27

had some kids calling me that as

20:29

a nickname. So I don't know that

20:32

it would bother me that much, especially

20:34

if five grand, you know, money talks,

20:36

but yeah, I don't know, I care

20:38

that much. Me and my brother play

20:41

the what if game all the time,

20:43

but no man, your name should stick,

20:45

you back it up. I only bring

20:48

it up because there was a fighter,

20:50

I'm sure you remember home, nice guy

20:52

too, and to and to be fair.

20:54

he was exciting to watch but his

20:57

name was Sam Stout and he was

20:59

hands of stone but he didn't have

21:01

many chaos and I know that started

21:04

to build up people would ask him

21:06

about it I don't know if it

21:08

bothered him or not eventually retired like

21:10

I say nice guy he was in

21:13

some great fights made some money and

21:15

and we enjoyed covering him but sometimes

21:17

that nickname can add pressure you know

21:19

for sure yeah I'm familiar with Sam

21:22

that's funny he didn't have a lot

21:24

of knockouts but um Yeah, I feel

21:26

like I've got a lot of finishes.

21:29

I'm still finishing guys fairly regularly. So

21:31

I have no doubts about my ability

21:33

to finish fights. It doesn't have any

21:35

question for me. Yeah, the Bannerweight Division

21:38

is debuting here in the PFL because

21:40

in previous years, as you know, they

21:42

went from 145 on up. They had

21:45

something for the ladies. They didn't even

21:47

have middle weights. Right. But missing is

21:49

patchy mix. Does that... bother you at

21:51

all or do you think that takes

21:54

anything away? You know because this really

21:56

could have added something to obviously the

21:58

field and then eventually winning the title

22:00

if someone collides with him. that lives

22:03

everyone's profile. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I

22:05

mean, to be honest, it doesn't bother

22:07

me that much because I don't mind

22:10

winning it without him being in there.

22:12

You know, like, I'll take the easiest

22:14

route possible and I think he's obviously

22:16

the best guy PFL has. So yeah,

22:19

it doesn't bother me any. I was

22:21

surprised he wouldn't want that opportunity, but

22:23

yeah, it doesn't bother me. I mean,

22:25

if the path is easier, I'm all

22:28

for it. Josh, I

22:30

know that every fighter, well, I'm

22:32

gonna say 95% of every fighter,

22:34

probably wants a finish. You know,

22:36

that's what they're going for, but

22:38

somehow you're able to get them.

22:40

Is there a secret recipe to

22:42

it? Is there something that you

22:44

do that other fighters don't? Or

22:46

is it just circumstances that I

22:49

think Fight IQ plays a big

22:51

factor too? You know, I always

22:53

say, you know, don't chase the

22:55

knockout, things like that. But I

22:57

think... fight IQ is probably the

22:59

biggest piece of it and you

23:01

know I pride myself on having

23:03

a pretty high fight IQ so

23:05

that's I think that's probably the

23:07

biggest thing that's what I would

23:09

point to. What are your thoughts

23:11

on your opponent when you first

23:13

got the name and you play

23:15

it out in your head this

23:17

is a crafty veteran yeah and

23:19

he's been around the sport you

23:21

know what do you think of

23:23

his game and do you kind

23:26

of like getting him now? Yeah,

23:28

yeah, I've seen him quite a

23:30

few times. Actually, I thought we

23:32

were gonna, I thought like mutual

23:34

opponents in the past, so I'd

23:36

studied some of his film just

23:38

to watch the other guys he

23:40

had fought. He's good. I think

23:42

it's a great fight for me.

23:44

I think it's a great fight

23:46

for me. I think it's actually

23:48

kind of similar. I don't feel

23:50

like he's super dangerous anywhere. I

23:52

think he's really good everywhere. I

23:54

don't think he's great I think

23:56

it makes for a fun fight.

23:58

And you know, I've been on

24:00

this kind of outside looking in

24:03

for a while and I kept

24:05

telling myself as I'm kind of

24:07

getting towards the end of my

24:09

career, if I'm going to make

24:11

a splash, it needs to be

24:13

against a, you know, somewhere near

24:15

the top 15 echelon of fibers.

24:17

And I feel like he's kind

24:19

of like right on that cusp.

24:21

So I feel like I kind

24:23

of got my, kind of got

24:25

my wish there. How soon into

24:27

the fight do you have a

24:29

general understanding of what you believe

24:31

is going to happen? How the

24:33

rest of the fight is going

24:35

to play out? Is it a

24:37

couple minutes into it? Does it

24:40

just take time? When do you

24:42

kind of start to feel everything

24:44

playing out? Yeah, I think every

24:46

fight's different. Kind of depends on

24:48

the pace of the fight. So

24:50

could be 30 seconds in, could

24:52

be two and a half, three

24:54

minutes in. So we'll kind of

24:56

see I don't think you know

24:58

Leandro is not a huge pressure

25:00

fighter so it could take take

25:02

a couple of minutes but yeah

25:04

I think every fight's different and

25:06

you know I would say probably

25:08

by two minutes and you should

25:10

know how it's going to go.

25:12

What's something that you know about

25:14

yourself that the rest of the

25:17

audience maybe doesn't know that we

25:19

would find interesting about you? Good

25:21

question. I don't know. You know,

25:23

I'm just a boring CPA. I

25:25

don't know. I don't think I'm

25:27

a pretty good golfer. I think

25:29

I might be the best golfer

25:31

in MMA. There you go. I

25:33

love the way you said it

25:35

too. Talking some sense. Yeah, yeah.

25:37

I take that challenge against anyone.

25:39

All these guys, just in GEDC,

25:41

all these guys think they're good

25:43

golfers. Yeah, I'm definitely the best

25:45

golfer in MMA. I don't know

25:47

if that's interesting, but they like

25:49

to fish. Um, yeah, otherwise, I

25:52

don't know. I mean, golfing's kind

25:54

of like my, my, my big

25:56

thing right now. So if I'm

25:58

not. If I'm not training, I'm

26:00

basically golfing. You know, I just

26:02

saw yesterday Dan Henderson was trying

26:04

to get DC to come out

26:06

to golf. Not seeing Dan do

26:08

other sports, you know, at a

26:10

minimum, like shoot a basketball, play

26:12

ping pong, stuff like that. Right.

26:14

Not so good. But I tend

26:16

to believe you, especially with the

26:18

polo on. The polo on says

26:20

so much. You and I look

26:22

like wearing some kind of zoom

26:24

meeting right now for available or

26:26

something. Right. That would be interesting.

26:29

What about mini golf though? That's

26:31

where him and I, that's where

26:33

now we step into the rankings.

26:35

Are you good at that? You

26:37

know, I don't know that I'm

26:39

very good at me. I went

26:41

with my wife a while back

26:43

on a little date night thinking,

26:45

oh, this will be easy and

26:47

she beat me. So, but she's

26:49

pretty good at mini golf. So

26:51

I don't know. Maybe she's just

26:53

really good or I'm not good

26:55

or I'm not good. No, that

26:57

was in my head. I was

26:59

not going to share that. My

27:01

putting game's tight. So yeah, you

27:03

guys don't want anything. When it

27:06

comes to that, everything else, though,

27:08

I'm a disaster. And Gagee and

27:10

DC, I've seen them. God bless

27:12

them. They could probably be me,

27:14

but yeah, they don't look the

27:16

one bit the part. It becomes

27:18

some serious golf. But all right,

27:20

so throw out some numbers. What

27:22

do you score normally and what's

27:24

your handicap? you know I'm shooting

27:26

high 70s low 80s regularly. So

27:28

it's kind of it's like pre-season

27:30

here you know in the Northwest

27:32

you can't golf year-round so I'm

27:34

gonna try to get around in

27:36

before heading out to Florida that's

27:38

my goal maybe get around in

27:40

while in there too. Wow how

27:43

did you like was that a

27:45

family thing or a high school

27:47

activity and or did you just

27:49

pick it up on your own?

27:51

No, I kind of, I played

27:53

like a little bit when I

27:55

was a kid. My grandpa was

27:57

really into it, but I just,

27:59

you know, I wanted to play

28:01

basketball and I thought it was

28:03

so boring. And then actually getting

28:05

into accounting, we're doing all these

28:07

fundraisers and all this stuff and

28:09

didn't want to look terrible in

28:11

front of clients. That started just

28:13

like playing more and the next

28:15

thing I know I got the

28:17

bug and then just started playing

28:20

for fun. That does have the

28:22

accounting all over it. Yeah, for

28:24

sure. You're from the Spokane area?

28:26

Yeah, yeah, born and raised in

28:28

Spokane. I live over across the

28:30

border now in Idaho. But I

28:32

mean, it's all kind of the

28:34

same thing. How did you think

28:36

basketball was boring when a guy

28:38

named John Stockton came from Spokane

28:40

and you know, the golf was

28:42

boring. I love basketball. Yeah, no,

28:44

I love basketball was my first

28:46

love. You're pretty good. Yeah, I

28:48

mean, today it was pretty good.

28:50

I just, you know, as I

28:52

got older, learned about genetics, realized

28:54

I wasn't going to be six

28:57

feet tall, just had to make

28:59

a switch, you know. Are you

29:01

the best Hoopster in MMA? I

29:03

mean I might be. I would

29:05

put money on that too. I

29:07

mean maybe not, you know, some

29:09

of these, you know, I don't

29:11

know if I could play, it's

29:13

like surreal gone or something, but

29:15

anybody maybe welter waiting below, I

29:17

put my money on myself. You

29:19

know, I saw John Jones shooting

29:21

baskets in New York at a

29:23

Knicks practice or something, he's awful.

29:25

So I, yeah, if you have

29:27

good hand-eye coordination and you probably

29:29

need it for golf, there's a

29:31

good chance, you know, you might

29:34

be the guy. Yeah, yeah. I've

29:36

always said this, MMA athletes are

29:38

obviously phenomenal athletes for our sport,

29:40

but when I see them trudging

29:42

to other sports, usually they're abysmal,

29:44

man. It's, it's. You know,

29:46

they're terrible. It's like wrestlers are like

29:48

that too, but see I I grew

29:50

up playing basketball and all these other

29:52

sports I didn't even start wrestling until

29:54

high school So I feel like some

29:56

of that coordination has kind of helped

29:58

me throughout the years. All right, goes

30:00

as one more. What do you have

30:02

for Josh Reddinghouse? By the way, folks,

30:04

let me straighten things out for you.

30:06

We're talking here on a Thursday and

30:09

there are fights tonight. Tonight's the first

30:11

event for PFL. However, Josh is headlining

30:13

next week's event. It's on Friday and

30:15

it's a late start 11 p.m. Eastern,

30:17

8 p.m.m. Pacific on ESp and ESp.

30:19

For the main card. So make a

30:21

note of that, there'll be Thursday. week

30:23

one and then Friday for this event.

30:25

All right, goes, finish up with Josh.

30:27

Josh. So early on in the interview,

30:29

I can't remember exactly what you said,

30:31

but you just kind of alluded to,

30:33

you know, before you wrap it up,

30:35

all that. Have you ever thought of

30:37

that? Does this kind of feel like

30:39

a last stand for you? Because this

30:41

is kind of a big deal right

30:43

now, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure. I

30:45

keep kind of telling my wife. you

30:48

know she's been asking me like what

30:50

I'm gonna stop doing this stuff. I

30:52

keep telling her if I lose I'm

30:54

basically done right I don't really feel

30:56

like I can afford a loss at

30:58

this point in my career and so

31:00

you know as long as I keep

31:02

winning we'll see what happens you know

31:04

winning this tournament would be a huge

31:06

feather in my cap and then we

31:08

kind of just take it from there.

31:10

But yeah that's that's kind of the

31:12

game plan right now. I feel like

31:14

it's one fight at a time and

31:16

you know any fight can be my

31:18

last. Josh, this is just

31:20

a silly question to kind of

31:22

close up, but if you're handling

31:24

my taxes this year and you

31:27

just had a fight and you

31:29

got a big shiner and a

31:31

bloody lip and I say, hey,

31:33

let's get on Zoom and talk

31:35

about it, like, do you have

31:37

to go through the whole explanation?

31:39

Do you avoid these types of

31:41

phone calls? How does that play

31:43

out? Because I got to imagine

31:45

when you pop in there, first

31:47

reactions like, whoa, what happened to

31:49

you? I don't plan on getting

31:51

any black guys first off, so

31:53

hopefully that doesn't happen. But no,

31:55

and second off, I don't do

31:57

taxes, but I do some other

31:59

stuff. in the same field, but

32:01

yeah, maybe I'll just turn the

32:03

camera off or something like that

32:05

or the case. Gotcha. Yeah, I

32:07

was gonna ask about that. Isn't

32:09

this a big, a busy season

32:11

for you, for you to be

32:13

doing what you're doing, which is

32:15

fighting and training and golfing, but

32:17

you just cleared it up, you

32:19

don't do the tax part, huh?

32:21

I don't do tax work, but

32:23

like our busy season is very

32:25

similar. I mean, I've been working

32:27

55 hours a week for the

32:29

last month and a month and

32:31

a half, two months. And I'm

32:33

actually getting ready to tell a

32:35

couple of my bosses today that

32:37

I'm going to have limited availability

32:39

next week. So, but I've got

32:41

to build them in on that

32:43

yet? Is that anything? You haven't

32:45

filled them in on that yet?

32:47

Not quite. You know, I've got

32:49

a lot of flexibility. You know,

32:51

I'm going to bring my computer

32:53

with me and stuff too. So

32:55

I can kind of keep things

32:57

moving, but yeah, we'll see how

32:59

it goes over. Are they fans

33:01

of your other gig? Yeah, for

33:03

sure. Yeah, I've had a couple

33:06

like local fights out here and

33:08

like had like the whole firm

33:10

come out and cheer it on

33:12

and everything so it's been cool.

33:14

They've been pretty supportive Yeah, does

33:16

the wife did the wife ask

33:18

you? About your career because she

33:20

wants you to wrap it up

33:22

or is she into it? A

33:24

little bit of both. Okay. Yeah.

33:26

A lot of fighters. We ask

33:28

them that and they'll say no

33:30

man. The wives want us to

33:32

keep going So the wheels fall

33:34

off, but it sounds like, all

33:36

right. No, we're not, you know,

33:38

maybe if this was like my

33:40

sole income or something, but, you

33:42

know, we're fortunate and blessed to

33:44

be in a good financial position.

33:46

This is, you know, not 500

33:48

grand would be nice, but, you

33:50

know, still not in it for

33:52

the money. And just here for

33:54

the fight. So, yeah, she's, she's

33:56

wondering when we can put it

33:58

to rest and. play pickleball and

34:00

golf and go on hikes. Yeah.

34:02

Man, I'll tell you what, only

34:04

because it's relevant, honestly, I don't

34:06

like. to bring up anything that's

34:08

controversial, but that Dow, that S&P

34:10

took hit a hit today and

34:12

a lot of people are talking

34:14

about it. I guess, what do

34:16

you do with 500K at this

34:18

point? Like, do you have any

34:20

advice for anyone that listens that

34:22

ever comes into money? How would

34:24

you advise, I guess? Maybe this

34:26

is unethical? I don't know for

34:28

you to get free advice. I

34:30

mean, I'm not a financial planner

34:32

anyways, but personally, I like real

34:34

estate. That's probably what I would

34:36

do with the money. You know,

34:38

we have a couple rental houses

34:40

and stuff, so that's probably what

34:43

I would do with it. I

34:45

think tangible assets are probably the

34:47

best thing that you can do.

34:49

A couple people will tell you,

34:51

you know, the stock market is

34:53

a casino, you know, some people

34:55

play it well, but yeah, I

34:57

don't put a ton of money

34:59

into the stock market. Rentals or

35:01

Airbnbs? We have rentals, but I

35:03

wouldn't be opposed to Airbnb, but

35:05

you know, all the city, city

35:07

steps, city to have different laws

35:09

and stuff. I'm not that into

35:11

it. But I've heard they're good.

35:13

Are you close to Idaho State

35:15

or Idaho out of the two

35:17

universities? Oh, University of Idaho. So

35:19

like Washington State and then University

35:21

of Idaho, and then University of

35:23

Idaho, and then University of Idaho,

35:25

or like Redicosta border border from

35:27

each other. Oh, I see. My

35:29

nephew slash godson is the starting

35:31

quarterback for Idaho State. Oh, nice.

35:33

My goal is to try and

35:35

get up there for one game

35:37

and check it out and see

35:39

who's trying to figure out what's

35:41

what's around, you know? Yeah, yeah,

35:43

that's like, you know, Idaho's like

35:45

the boot. That's like down in

35:47

the bottom right down there. And

35:49

this thing's like a pan on

35:51

the panhandle? Yeah, yeah, I'm up

35:53

on the panhandle. By any hands.

35:55

Are you the best football player

35:57

and all of all of them?

35:59

I feel like I'm pretty decent.

36:01

but my size would probably say

36:03

otherwise, but I have to be

36:05

like a growing contest or something.

36:07

I can catch anything. I can

36:09

catch anything. That's for sure. You

36:11

want to hear a funny story

36:13

because I thought the same. Oh,

36:15

by the way, the minute that

36:17

guy from ATT goes, what's his

36:19

name? Greg Hardy stepped into him.

36:22

Oh, yeah. I think he's got

36:24

that one down. But same thing

36:26

I thought in on way older

36:28

now, but when I went on.

36:30

would horse around with my friends.

36:32

I had good hands. I considered

36:34

myself someone that had good hands.

36:36

And then that nephew, I took

36:38

him and two other nieces to

36:40

Red Robin. We had burgers and

36:42

everything and then I go, hey,

36:44

let me see what your guns

36:46

like, you know. And I had

36:48

a football, I brought a football

36:50

on purpose and we're in the

36:52

parking lot at Red Robin. Dude,

36:54

a college quarterback can hum it,

36:56

man. I mean, I saw this

36:58

thing common. And I'd get my

37:00

hands on it, but it would

37:02

still skip. And my nieces are

37:04

laughing. I look like a fool.

37:06

I'm trying to blame it on

37:08

this one, even though the sun's

37:10

not even out. But man, they

37:12

can fire it, man, at that

37:14

next level. So I don't know

37:16

if you've ever taken passes from

37:18

like... No, no. I was going

37:20

to say, to be fair, I

37:22

haven't taken any passes on it.

37:24

And then when someone drops it,

37:26

you're like, ah, I'll give him

37:28

a pass if, you know, it

37:30

was a bullet. But hey, man,

37:32

this has been real fun talking

37:34

to you. You're a real interesting

37:36

cat. So thanks for the time.

37:38

As busy and boring. We've seen

37:40

this in here with one week

37:42

to go. And we'll definitely be

37:44

watching you and Leandro. He go

37:46

throw down in the main event

37:48

in that second round of fights

37:50

that the PFL's having out in

37:52

Orlando Florida. Right he can he

37:54

can golf and he'll do your

37:56

taxes. Mm-hmm. I wish he was

37:58

my neighbor. Yeah, he he surprised

38:01

me he just seems like a

38:03

fun guy like a cool cat

38:05

like he likes a lot of

38:07

the same stuff that I think

38:09

we like and I like his

38:11

attitude going into the fight and

38:13

who knows maybe you know he's

38:15

pretty blunt this could be the

38:17

last one if it doesn't go

38:19

his way yeah well I hope

38:21

it does I think like I

38:23

say is very interesting and I

38:25

don't know I just want to

38:27

cheer for him I can he's

38:29

been around the block for a

38:31

long time as well but This

38:33

guy's interview just was, it was

38:35

fun for me. I can't imagine

38:37

my senior year at UNOV dealing

38:39

with the credits that you need

38:41

to graduate, the papers you need

38:43

to turn in. And oh, by

38:45

the way, I'm fighting Marlin Marius

38:47

on Friday. Like that, that Timmy

38:49

is insane that he can balance

38:51

those types of things. Yeah, exactly.

38:53

All right, folks, let's talk about

38:55

USC 314. Alizana Volkonoski versus

38:57

Diego Lopez. Volkonoski has done everything we

39:00

asked for. He suffered two vicious chaos,

39:02

first to Islam Makashov, second to Iliapiporia,

39:04

back to back like three months apart.

39:06

This is a guy that liked to

39:08

fight often, but he took the extended

39:10

time off. I think things in part

39:13

to the UOC, which they just chose

39:15

not to book them. And then I

39:17

think he realized, wait a minute, this

39:19

is doing me so good. He's antsy,

39:21

he's like me so good. He's just

39:24

likes to fight to fight. He just

39:26

likes to fight. I don't think he'll

39:28

be out of shape. I don't buy

39:30

into old Vulcan or anything. I like

39:32

his gimmick. But he is fighting someone

39:34

that likes to come out of the

39:37

gate. He's also fighting someone who has

39:39

seen to slow down if he doesn't

39:41

start you earlier, but perhaps we're being

39:43

a little harsh because the circumstances around

39:45

the Danie-Gate fight were way different than

39:48

most. It could have just messed with

39:50

his emotions, his prep work, who knows,

39:52

if anything it was a learning lesson

39:54

for him. And I'm sure, and I

39:56

hope he has that dialed in going

39:58

into this, his biggest fight ever, because

40:01

this is obviously 25. minutes for the

40:03

undisputed title because Iliad Toporia has chosen

40:05

to vacate and move up. All right

40:07

goes excitement level here this is a

40:09

10 right this this has a potential

40:12

for that? For sure it's weird I

40:14

turned in my staff picks already I

40:16

think on Sunday and when I looked

40:18

at them I went I could possibly

40:20

go oh for five here because there

40:22

is an argument to be made on

40:25

each side on all of these fights

40:27

and it's like you look at a

40:29

guy like Volkonovsky and you wonder which

40:31

one's going to show up, right? There

40:33

are a couple fights here where you

40:36

have that younger fighter that's trying to

40:38

get over on the older more established

40:40

fighter. If some of these veterans stick

40:42

to a game plan and you get

40:44

what you normally get with them and

40:46

that's an honest camp, they look like

40:49

they're in shape. I think the veterans

40:51

might pull ahead in this card, but...

40:53

I think the one key thing when

40:55

you look at Volkonovsky and Lopez is

40:57

adjustments and who's going to be able

41:00

to make them. And the one knock

41:02

that I can give Lopez is I

41:04

think he comes at you with this

41:06

recipe. But if that recipe is not

41:08

working, I don't know that he can

41:10

change it up as much as Volk

41:13

can when his recipe's not working. I

41:15

feel like the next round he could

41:17

come out and be a little bit

41:19

more of a different fighter. And he's

41:21

got that that experience right at the

41:24

high level of getting this done time

41:26

and time again. But we don't know

41:28

what these fights have taken out of

41:30

them. We don't know what an extra

41:32

year of aging has done to his

41:34

body. So I don't know man, I

41:37

guess that's what makes fights interesting. But

41:39

yeah, I honestly feel like I could

41:41

maybe go on five or I could

41:43

go five and oh and it's crazy

41:45

to have that feeling. I think that's

41:48

what makes a great card. Yeah, I

41:50

was just about to say maybe maybe

41:52

we should be shouting out the matchmakers

41:54

because they really really hit us with

41:56

some matchups that none of us were

41:58

expecting. I mean, I think we had

42:01

a feeling that if a top for

42:03

you were to leave, sure, Volk and

42:05

Lopez, yeah, it sounds about right, because we

42:07

were wondering who top for you was gonna fight.

42:09

But Pimlet and Chandler, well, I wouldn't say hit

42:11

us out of nowhere, that was rumblings about it,

42:14

but you don't know it until you believe it.

42:16

And a lot of guys like Chandler who

42:18

considered themselves, obviously a big name

42:20

in the sport within their division,

42:22

despite the sport, despite the division,

42:24

despite the losses, despite the losses,

42:26

they're not just going to take. They

42:28

want to fight up, not down, but

42:30

he's doing it. Five rounds,

42:33

another interesting twist.

42:35

Let's dive into that a

42:37

little bit. Pimlet. Danny Segura

42:40

said something nice or

42:42

interesting. He said, if Pimlet

42:44

makes enough noise and wins

42:47

and gets a stoppage, could

42:49

he probably be pop up

42:51

on Islam Makashib's

42:53

radar? And man, of course,

42:55

the only thing that was registering

42:57

in my head, because you

42:59

got Armansa Rookian, who's in

43:01

the dog house, but he's

43:03

there, Charles Olivera, who's

43:06

a former champ, I already

43:08

fought Makasha, but he's been winning.

43:10

And then you got Justin Gagee,

43:12

who just beat Rafael Fiziv,

43:15

right? Brash matchup for

43:17

his almakashaf and then

43:19

Elia Toporia. I mean, the

43:21

names are everywhere. So I think

43:23

that's a bit much to think,

43:25

um, how many people could get

43:28

in there. But remember, once you

43:30

get to a certain amount of

43:32

title offenses, which Makashif is at

43:34

four, they weigh in a little

43:36

bit with the matchmakers. And I

43:38

think they say, hmm, I'm kind

43:41

of feeling this. Maybe I can do

43:43

that. So my question to you

43:45

is, is Danny Sagroy v. tripping

43:47

or does Pimlet have a shot

43:49

at making a run for a

43:51

title? off of a big channel

43:54

or stoppage. Danny's feet

43:56

are tied together. He tripping

43:58

big time, but... What I

44:00

will give him is, of course,

44:02

that's what the UFC would love,

44:04

is eventually to be able to

44:06

get this guy to that point

44:08

where he can contend for a

44:10

title. And it's going to be

44:12

harder and harder, right? Like, they're

44:14

going to give him matchups that

44:16

they believe he can win. But

44:18

at some point, you're going to

44:20

get to a level where no

44:22

matter who you're facing, it's still

44:24

going to be a stud. If

44:26

you're going to face a stud

44:28

though. Don't you maybe go after

44:30

a Michael Chandler who hasn't been

44:32

as active over the years is

44:34

a little bit older in his

44:36

career and can kind of deviate

44:38

from a game plan? That's probably

44:40

who I would have picked. Patty

44:42

can get that win. I don't

44:44

think he has to just win

44:46

though. I think he has to

44:48

look impressive. He's got to get

44:51

some kind of finish for anyone

44:53

to even consider him to be

44:55

in that talk. But what do

44:57

you tell the other guys? I

44:59

mean, I don't know, dude. I

45:01

get that that's what the UFC

45:03

would dream of and what they

45:05

would want, but that would be

45:07

a really, really tough cell. You

45:09

know, when we first met Michael

45:11

Chandler goes, he was basically Patty

45:13

Pinlett. Maybe not with his popularity,

45:15

and we didn't meet, you know,

45:17

Pinlett's like six and L in

45:19

the UFC or something like that.

45:21

But I'm talking about more like

45:23

the stage in their career, their

45:25

age, and now, you know. 12,

45:27

13 years older. His last fight

45:29

against Olivera, I don't think he

45:31

looked as good as we've seen

45:33

him. Part of that could have

45:35

been the two-year layoff waiting for

45:37

Connor McGregor. Part of it could

45:39

have been just Olivera. It was

45:41

his night. Part of it could

45:43

have been age. I don't know.

45:45

But man, there's just so many

45:47

subplots here for both guys. What

45:49

if? The old horse still has

45:51

gas in the tank. Yeah I

45:53

don't think that power is gone

45:55

that's for sure and if he

45:57

connects he hasn't let out that

45:59

would be a huge win a

46:01

bunch of flips backflips and and

46:03

now he's in that talk you

46:05

know with those other guys in

46:07

terms of what's next, hooker maybe,

46:09

I don't think poié, maybe Max

46:11

Holloway, BMF, Chandler can afford himself

46:13

that type of conversation with a

46:15

win, but with a loss, you

46:17

know, all of a sudden, you

46:19

just start getting, showing the door

46:21

a little bit. I think he's

46:23

gotten too wrapped up in being

46:25

an entertainer and not a fighter.

46:27

And I think it's costume, you

46:29

know, like... When you look at

46:31

him at the end of fights,

46:33

the damage that he's not only

46:35

taken but kind of dished out,

46:37

you know, your hands, your shins,

46:39

your feet, your knees, your elbows,

46:41

all that stuff, it's like getting

46:43

into a car crash over and

46:45

over. Can you imagine what you

46:47

would feel like doing that? Like

46:49

your body can only hold up

46:51

so long doing these types of

46:53

things. He has the ability to

46:55

kind of pick and choose his

46:57

strategies if he wants. he can

46:59

stand with you and he will

47:01

survive if he wants he can

47:04

take you down and if he

47:06

wants he might even be able

47:08

to submit you we've seen him

47:10

do that before it's hard to

47:12

find fighters that can do all

47:14

three of those things yet he

47:16

usually picks one and that's it

47:18

and he's he can't be that

47:20

guy in this fight he's got

47:22

to go if he wants to

47:24

stick around and make some of

47:26

these big paychecks which I firmly

47:28

believe he's making big paychecks he's

47:30

lacked by the company He's got

47:32

to be a mixed martial artist.

47:34

He's got to use what got

47:36

him to the dance. I agree.

47:38

The heavy hands got him to

47:40

the dance. Let's see if he

47:42

can put it on pimlet. I

47:44

don't care if he loses, but

47:46

show off your best performance, your

47:48

skills. And if the other guy

47:50

can take your best punch or

47:52

get saved by the bell or

47:54

grab a leg, you know, and

47:56

survive and take it to the

47:58

ground, I mean, I don't know.

48:00

But I just, I want both

48:02

to perform at their high levels

48:04

and may the best man win.

48:06

Two different boats for sure that

48:08

they're in. And how about Mitchell

48:10

and John Silva? I don't want

48:12

to sugarcoat it. I was really

48:14

disappointed in Mitchell's comments. I thought

48:16

they were very ignorant. And just

48:18

anything tied to aid off Hitler,

48:20

man, just, it don't sit well

48:22

with me. I hope John Silva

48:24

gives him a more whoopin. You

48:26

know, it's weird because... I

48:29

have to imagine a lot of

48:31

people are just kind of looking

48:33

at this fight as sort of

48:35

a good versus evil type fight.

48:37

If we look at it from

48:39

the U.S.C.'s perspective, I don't think

48:41

anybody raises their hand and says

48:43

we want to fight Silva. That's

48:45

a kind that I think a

48:47

lot of people are avoiding. So

48:49

it kind of seems like a

48:51

little bit of a punishment of

48:54

a fight. Who knows, man, when

48:56

this dude walks out, like our

48:58

country, and not to get too

49:00

political, has kind of changed. a

49:02

lot over the last couple years

49:04

and man you're going to a

49:06

state where anything goes like they

49:08

might clap this fool you never

49:10

know he might be the hero

49:12

but I do feel like it

49:14

is kind of a good versus

49:16

evil type matchup and we'll see

49:18

you know for Jean Silva if

49:21

he gets a win here there's

49:23

no turning back you know at

49:25

that point the pace that he's

49:27

keeping the names that he's collecting

49:29

you can only go up you

49:31

can't go down So this might

49:33

be that moment where he's really

49:35

really got to toughen up and

49:37

everything's going to start hitting them

49:39

very quick. The level of opponents

49:41

are going to are going to

49:43

get even stronger if he can

49:45

get past the sky. Fighting nerds

49:48

in the house. We'll see if

49:50

Mitchell wins, maybe he has a

49:52

chance to write the wrong. You'll

49:54

have obviously the world paying attention.

49:56

They'll give them the mic, but

49:58

yeah, dude, like I'm not a

50:00

fishermanman, but there's something called Lake

50:02

Me not too far away. And

50:04

let's just say I had enough

50:06

money that I wanted to do

50:08

dumb stuff. I said, let's get

50:10

a boat goes just to hang

50:13

out right around or what. whether

50:15

we fish or not, I certainly

50:17

wouldn't be saying if he was

50:19

still alive, see if Hitler wants

50:21

to come with us. You know

50:23

what I mean? Like, unless you're

50:25

a historian, I don't even want

50:27

to read about the guy. I'm

50:29

not interested in the guy. What

50:31

he did was so evil, man.

50:33

Like I don't even like to

50:35

utter his name. Like I just

50:37

feel like he's someone that needs

50:40

to be forgotten about. Exactly. That's

50:42

just. It was the dumbest comment

50:44

of all time. Hmm. Patricio Pitbo

50:46

Frady, he wanted his release, he

50:48

got it, they gave me, I

50:50

hear Rodriguez. And look, I mean,

50:52

he's 36 or 37 himself. There

50:54

ain't no time to fuck around

50:56

and do the paddy pin litter

50:58

out. Wow, give me five cans,

51:00

not cans, which is give me

51:02

five lesser, no fighters, so that

51:04

I can grow my name. No.

51:07

You got a sinker Rodriguez, man,

51:09

he's got such a such a...

51:11

diverse kicking game. I see pit

51:13

bull either getting his dome kicked,

51:15

all Leon Edwards, Khmer, Usman one,

51:17

or I see Patricea pit bull

51:19

maybe lighten him up. He's got

51:21

some power in his hands. Maybe

51:23

he touches Yea, Rodriguez, his chin.

51:25

I love that matchup. That's another

51:27

one that hit me out of

51:29

nowhere. I had a feeling he

51:31

was coming. I didn't know who,

51:34

but I like that they signed

51:36

him and it's here. We didn't

51:38

have the weight. nine months like

51:40

John Jones is making us wait

51:42

for whether he fights asphalt or

51:44

not. Yeah, this kind of a

51:46

win-win, I think, for the UFC.

51:48

If Yarra Rodriguez gets a win,

51:50

well, a guy that you have

51:52

promoted before in the past, a

51:54

kind of a revival of Mexico,

51:56

the fighting scene over there, you

51:58

get that all back on pace.

52:01

If pit bull wins, you bring

52:03

in another guy that people like.

52:05

You know, we enjoy watching pit

52:07

bull fight. So the UFC is

52:09

not going to lose in this

52:11

one, but I feel like. timing,

52:13

distance, those might be problems for

52:15

pit bull in this fight. But

52:17

we'll see, you know, if anything,

52:19

this is kind of a sleeper

52:21

fight in the sense that I

52:23

just think it's gonna be chaos.

52:26

As do I. And I hope,

52:28

look, I guess, no, I don't

52:30

know, yeah, this is weird. All

52:32

I was gonna say was I

52:34

hope the PFL slash Belator, or

52:36

maybe it's just PFL now, find

52:38

some resolution with their other stars

52:40

that are out there. Either you're

52:42

going to use them or not.

52:44

We're obviously going through these world

52:46

tournaments, and I'm not seeing Mix

52:48

Evelyn Anderson, Coria Anderson. So if

52:50

you're not going to do it

52:53

there, then let them go back

52:55

to the U.S.C. and we all

52:57

move on. But at least the

52:59

criticism won't be there from the

53:01

fighters towards the organization or from

53:03

us towards the organization. Sort it

53:05

out and let's see, you know,

53:07

and that's what I like about

53:09

this match up was there's resolution

53:11

to that part of part of

53:13

his career. If he loses, it

53:15

could be a one and done

53:17

for him. I don't know, man.

53:20

Folks, that's like the fourth fight

53:22

down. Like it goes title fight,

53:24

Timlet, and Chandler, Silva, and Mitchell,

53:26

Rodriguez, and Pitpool, and man, we

53:28

almost had Jeff Neal and Carlos

53:30

process, but they're elevating Dominic Reyes

53:32

and Nikita Kryloff to the main

53:34

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54:14

Reyes, they get promoted. The rest

54:16

of the card is as follows.

54:18

Dan E.G. versus Sean Woodson. This

54:20

is a fun fight goes. Six

54:22

foot four guy against one of

54:24

the shorter guys at Featherweight. Jan

54:26

Jonan against Verna Janderova, who really,

54:28

really top level. Straw weights. One

54:30

just fought for the title in

54:32

2024 against her fellow country woman,

54:34

Jean Weili. And the other one,

54:36

Verna Gander was on a four

54:39

five win streak. We thought she

54:41

was gonna fight for the title.

54:43

Instead, they gave it to Tatiana

54:45

Suarez, who came up short, but

54:47

Verna couldn't hang out and just

54:49

said, I'll take Jean Weili now,

54:51

except there's rumors that Jean Weili,

54:53

may face Malitina Shashenko, however Shashenko

54:55

has Alexa Grosso, oh, no, no,

54:57

no, Jean Fiero, Fiero, in her

54:59

own Fiero, in her own Fiero,

55:01

in her sight line. In her

55:03

sight line. In her sight line.

55:06

In her sight line. In her

55:08

sight line. In her sight line.

55:10

In her sight line. and that's

55:12

U.S.C. 315 next month in Montreal.

55:14

All right, lots going on there.

55:16

Jim Miller against Chase Hooper and

55:18

Cedric Dumas versus Michelle Olichechtnik. I

55:20

gotta get that name figured out

55:22

man because he's been popping up

55:24

on a lot of cards. I

55:26

just like, I don't know if

55:28

he's Mitzelplick or someone else is

55:30

Mitzelplick. Darren Elkins versus Julian Arosa.

55:33

Sue Mujari versus Mitch Raposo. Tragion

55:35

Gore versus Marco Tulio, Nora Cornell,

55:37

versus Haley Cowan. Cohen. Cohen, yeah.

55:39

Puck. I almost wish I was

55:41

going to the fights. It's a

55:43

pretty good card, man. It is.

55:45

I agree. Any thoughts on Reyes?

55:47

You know, he won the first

55:49

two rounds against Jones. Even the

55:51

judges said so. Jones would probably

55:53

even tell you. Did

55:55

he win round three? Is John

55:57

Jones drawing dead? Is Ray's up

56:00

three? nothing. Well, it turns out

56:02

he wasn't, but Reyes has kind

56:04

of been talking about Jones a

56:06

little bit recently. Jones scolded him

56:08

and said, nope, you didn't win,

56:10

you'll just have to live with

56:13

it or whatever. After that fight,

56:15

he lost two or three more

56:17

in a row and he got

56:19

some vicious chaos, by the way.

56:21

And we were like, holy cow,

56:23

from almost beating Jones to like

56:26

a four fight losing streak and

56:28

almost being bounced out of the

56:30

U of the U of C.

56:32

But Reyes has had a little

56:34

bit of a little bit of

56:36

a little bit of a comeback

56:38

goes. He has been very surprising.

56:41

Who knows how long it'll last?

56:43

I was a little bit of

56:45

a doubter at first and like

56:47

I mentioned, I've already turned in

56:49

my staff picks. I think this

56:51

is the fight where I have

56:54

to stop hating, you know, I

56:56

think whatever he's done, he's had

56:58

some things that he's had to

57:00

come back from, but he's figured

57:02

it out, it seems and it

57:04

seems like things are back on

57:06

track. I'm not saying he's gonna

57:09

be fighting for a title or

57:11

something like that, but... I mean

57:13

to stop looking at this like

57:15

well that was just this match

57:17

up or whatever I really do

57:19

think Reyes has done something to

57:22

make himself better he's dedicated to

57:24

his craft and it's paid off

57:26

so I actually went with him

57:28

in this fight and get this

57:30

is to fight win streak he's

57:32

actually had two big wins via

57:35

stoppage so I remember Blahovich knocked

57:37

them out That was for the

57:39

vacant light heavyweight title. After he

57:41

lost to Jones, Jones vacated. So

57:43

they brought in Reyes versus Bloovich,

57:45

Bloovich won, became champ. Then Yuri

57:47

Prashaska did that spinning back elbow,

57:50

if you'll recall. So that was

57:52

two knockouts in a row, three

57:54

losses in a row, and then

57:56

Ryan's fan beat him, knocked him

57:58

out as well. Three chaos in

58:00

a row, four losses in a

58:03

row. Took some time off over

58:05

like 18 months and then came

58:07

back and I swear I remember

58:09

Dustin Jacoby having some good moments

58:11

and I thought Reyes might be

58:13

toast, but Reyes came back, man.

58:15

Yeah, he beat Jacobi. That's a

58:18

tough out. For sure. And then

58:20

after he beat Dustin Jacobi, he

58:22

got a win over Anthony Smith.

58:24

So he's writing a little bit

58:26

of momentum here against Nikita Kryloff,

58:28

not to be confused with Nikita

58:31

Koloff and his uncle Ivan Koloff.

58:33

And don't forget about Crusher Khrushchev.

58:35

Yeah. What were they called? The

58:37

Russians? I don't think so, but

58:39

they were like three man tag

58:41

team champions, right, when they would

58:44

do that. It was six man

58:46

tag team champ. That's right. The

58:48

old, they might have been NWA

58:50

days, man. Not even W CW,

58:52

but NWA. The Ege, Woodson fight.

58:54

Boy. What is Ege gonna do

58:56

to combat that reach that height?

58:59

Like that's a big dude. against

59:01

the shorter featherweight? I don't know.

59:03

I don't know how he's gonna

59:05

get like there's... When you look

59:07

at guys like Gary Rodriguez, you

59:09

look at Sean Woodson, there's the

59:12

potential for one of them jumping

59:14

knees or something like that to

59:16

end the fight. But Dan is

59:18

just so good at staying out

59:20

of those big strikes. I think

59:22

he'll figure that one out. They're

59:24

both Vegas guys so who knows

59:27

if they've actually trained together. I

59:29

know one of them syndicate and...

59:31

one of them is extreme but

59:33

from time to time they do

59:35

cross-trained so I think it's gonna

59:37

be a hell of a fight.

59:40

As do I? Both guys obviously

59:42

can gain so much because they're

59:44

they're kind of I guess fighting

59:46

different fights and I'll explain on

59:48

the woods inside right he's 32

59:50

years of age but we still

59:52

considering as a consider him as

59:55

a guy rising. He came through

59:57

Dane and White Tanner series, but

59:59

he was in one of the

1:00:01

early seasons, like 2019. And since

1:00:03

then, he's won like 7th. fights,

1:00:05

lost once against Julia Arosa, shout

1:00:08

out to him, Arosa choked him

1:00:10

out, and then he had a

1:00:12

draw against Luis Aldagna. But since

1:00:14

that draw, he's one four in

1:00:16

a row, got a stoppage in

1:00:18

the last one, Fernando Padilla. But

1:00:21

those names, Alex Casares, Charles Jordan,

1:00:23

Dennis Vazuka, Fernando Padilla, they're just

1:00:25

not the top of the food

1:00:27

chain. Now, Daniege has been to

1:00:29

the top of the food chain.

1:00:31

He's been a top ten guy,

1:00:33

but he's also taking a few

1:00:36

elz that's causing them. a drop

1:00:38

down a little bit. But Ege

1:00:40

is widely celebrated, similar in age,

1:00:42

he's 33. And even though he

1:00:44

took a loss to Lerone Murphy,

1:00:46

shocker was the decision. The fight

1:00:49

versus Diego Lopez was very memorable

1:00:51

and legendary in its own. This

1:00:53

was UFC 303. No, sorry, I'm

1:00:55

thinking of. Yeah. That's the fight

1:00:57

you took only notice, right? When

1:01:00

the spear card the one he

1:01:02

took on late notice? No, it

1:01:04

was when he fought Diego Lopez.

1:01:06

Yeah, for oh, wait, yeah, right.

1:01:08

It was on four hours notice.

1:01:10

Right. I thought it was a

1:01:12

fight night, but I guess it

1:01:14

was at the team mobile. Yeah,

1:01:16

yeah, yeah, that's the one. Okay,

1:01:19

I don't know why I was

1:01:21

that's what threw me off. So

1:01:23

Lopez was supposed to fight Brian

1:01:25

Ortega. In Ortega couldn't go, he

1:01:27

pulled out of the fight and

1:01:29

he got on four hours notice,

1:01:31

goes to the team mobile and

1:01:33

fights Diego Lopez. Now he lost,

1:01:35

but he was very competitive, but

1:01:37

no one's ever taken a fight

1:01:39

on four hours notice. I mean,

1:01:41

he had to assemble a team.

1:01:43

I think it was Strickland, Nick

1:01:45

Sick, they all got together, Abdul

1:01:47

Aziz, they made the fight happen,

1:01:49

like they agreed to terms. This

1:01:52

guy's out I think in his

1:01:54

ice bath or something like that

1:01:56

or floating on his pool the

1:01:58

next thing you know he's fighting

1:02:00

but oh yeah taking two losses

1:02:02

but that one's not charged against

1:02:04

them is bad because of the

1:02:06

circumstances. However he does need this

1:02:08

win because if he can't beat

1:02:10

Sean Woodson then you're not top

1:02:12

15 and now you're kind of

1:02:14

surviving more in the gatekeeper role.

1:02:16

I don't want that for Danie

1:02:18

Gay. I think that should be

1:02:20

celebrated for a lot of the

1:02:22

good that he's done you know

1:02:25

while fighting some big moments, some

1:02:27

big chaos, some big chaos. 50K

1:02:29

they call him we'll see but

1:02:31

don't sleep on this fight this

1:02:33

one's gonna be a good one

1:02:35

but he has a lot of

1:02:37

length to get through in Sean

1:02:39

Woodson and he's got that pressure

1:02:41

the two fight losing streak prior

1:02:43

to that he had beaten Andre

1:02:45

Feely then he took a loss

1:02:47

to Brian Mitchell and then he

1:02:49

had two wins against David Jackson

1:02:51

and late Nate Land where so

1:02:53

this competition's been a little bit

1:02:55

higher than Sean Woodson but that

1:02:58

don't mean anything on fight night

1:03:00

this is a big big big

1:03:02

fight for both guys Yeah. There

1:03:04

hasn't been too much news to

1:03:06

cover, but let's talk about PFL.

1:03:08

There, week one took place, right?

1:03:10

Jason Jackson defeated Andre Korschkov in

1:03:12

the main event. He submitted them.

1:03:14

Nice work there from Jason Jackson.

1:03:16

Hazus Panado in the combine event

1:03:18

defeated Adam Borex. Very patient. He

1:03:20

hadn't fought in like almost a

1:03:22

year and a half. You could

1:03:24

tell he was just... Kind of

1:03:26

going through the motions and then

1:03:28

when it was turned to light

1:03:31

him up, he did. Logan Storley

1:03:33

defeated Joseph Luciano. Luciano replaced Magamet

1:03:35

Umo Latov, who was supposed to

1:03:37

fight Logan Storley. Storley won, but

1:03:39

things slowed down a little bit

1:03:41

in his fight. And I don't

1:03:43

think he got the pop that

1:03:45

he wanted. But you know over

1:03:47

here it's just win win and

1:03:49

you continue there is no politics.

1:03:51

There is no impressing the matchmakers

1:03:53

to see if they give you

1:03:55

the title fight. You just got

1:03:57

to win. So perhaps we have

1:03:59

to keep that in mind. defeated

1:04:02

Jeremy Kennedy's foot decision there. Great.

1:04:04

Hope for Kennedy to pull that

1:04:06

out. That Gene, everyone's talking about

1:04:08

him, man. He defeated Mukamad, Berkamoff,

1:04:10

Gabriel Braga defeated Frederick Dupra, Maziyaki

1:04:12

Kikuri, defeated Giannis Vashar, and Tai

1:04:14

Kim, Tai Kunekim, defeated Nathan. Any

1:04:16

thoughts on PFL goes? I thought

1:04:18

they, it was a really fun

1:04:20

card. I'm glad I tuned in

1:04:22

for the whole thing. They tightened

1:04:24

the screws on the pacing of

1:04:26

everything. I thought the commentary did

1:04:28

a good job, the team, and

1:04:30

then the fights themselves, I saw

1:04:32

a lot of good high-level fight

1:04:35

IQ in these fights. They did

1:04:37

a good job of promoting what's

1:04:39

next for each fighter. I thought

1:04:41

they kind of hit a home

1:04:43

run with their first flight and

1:04:45

you know if you tuned into

1:04:47

spinning back click I gave it

1:04:49

an eight out of ten and

1:04:51

I'm saying a lot of good

1:04:53

things so you're probably wondering why

1:04:55

I didn't give it a nine

1:04:57

or a ten it's just because

1:04:59

when you see this go down

1:05:01

all you can think about are

1:05:03

some of the names that are

1:05:05

on the sideline that could have

1:05:08

made everything even more interesting right?

1:05:10

But what they delivered the product

1:05:12

itself it was great. So the

1:05:14

fighters on this card probably deserve

1:05:16

like a B plus a minus,

1:05:18

whereas PFL as a whole, because

1:05:20

it's tied into what they're not

1:05:22

doing, right, who they're not talking

1:05:24

about, who they're not promoting, who

1:05:26

they're not booking, that's kind of

1:05:28

what I guess hurts the PFO.

1:05:30

A little bit, yeah. Maybe, I

1:05:32

guess, where the criticism comes, yeah.

1:05:34

Yeah. Well, listen, I'm a huge

1:05:36

fanado fan. And his win was

1:05:38

a good win to come back

1:05:41

from. He's the 2023 champion, but

1:05:43

he didn't fight now at 2024.

1:05:45

had some injuries, so he came

1:05:47

back and he shook a number

1:05:49

off and he's on the heels

1:05:51

of the Kevin Borjas win in

1:05:53

Mexico, that Peruvian team under the

1:05:55

leadership of Yvonne Tiborico, I believe

1:05:57

was his name, they're pauvin, so

1:05:59

happy for them. We'll see if

1:06:01

they can continue, you know, making

1:06:03

some noise. I know Gaston Bolano's

1:06:05

trains with them as well. as

1:06:07

well as Enrique Barzola and a

1:06:09

few others, Claudio Pueles. So let's

1:06:11

see what happens with the Peruvians

1:06:14

going forward. And this week's PFL

1:06:16

card again is on ESPN2. It's

1:06:18

Friday, not Thursday, last one was

1:06:20

Friday, sorry, Thursday, this one's on

1:06:22

Friday. And Tyler Santos will be

1:06:24

facing, Julianne of Alaska, as the

1:06:26

Androego will be facing. Josh Ridding

1:06:28

House, our guest on MMA Junky

1:06:30

Radio, 8 p.m. Pacific, 11 p.m.

1:06:32

Eastern for that main card. If

1:06:34

you have the deuce, you might

1:06:36

catch it on satellite feed versus

1:06:38

streaming, so check it out. Goes

1:06:40

the pacing was good. You know

1:06:42

what helped was they had six

1:06:44

wins. Out of the eight fights,

1:06:47

six of them were finishes, but

1:06:49

the first four of the night

1:06:51

were finishes. So that helped, it

1:06:53

kind of started to build momentum

1:06:55

to the higher profile fights. True.

1:06:57

Yeah, and I enjoyed watching that

1:06:59

card. It makes me excited to

1:07:01

see the next one. Yeah, me

1:07:03

too. All right folks, we're gonna

1:07:05

get on out of here. Thank

1:07:07

you so much for obviously your

1:07:09

support. And guess what? On Friday,

1:07:11

our next show. will be our

1:07:13

anniversary show. There's a chance. There

1:07:15

might be a tweak and I

1:07:17

guess I might have just given

1:07:20

it away. But yeah, basically we

1:07:22

started the show on April 11

1:07:24

2007 and that's coming up and

1:07:26

so it'll be our 18.

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year anniversary So we'll let

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you let you

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know if we

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possibly do something

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on that exact for

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for our last

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show of the

1:07:42

week we don't. if

1:07:44

we don't we

1:07:46

don't that. But either way,

1:07:48

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but either way

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us it for goes

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that's it for

1:08:01

now and Yeah, and

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