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People who need certainty
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struggle with adaptability and
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flexibility and resilience, their
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doubt turns into discouragement,
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then disengagement. All worry
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are trapped in childlike ambitions.
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Anyone trying to sell you
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certainty is trying to sell
2:15
you something. It's like certainty
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is the opposite and seeking
2:19
and wanting and hoping and
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hoping and hoping for certainty.
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is, I would say, the
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opposite of everything we know
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in high performance and success.
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We know that people who
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desire and drive and operate
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from certainty are more close-minded.
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They don't have the openness
2:38
trait of personality traits that
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we know lead to long-term
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success. People who need certainty,
2:44
struggle with adaptability and flexibility
2:47
and resilience. Those are critical
2:49
to long-term success. And I
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know, listen, it's very popular,
2:53
even my industry, there's people
2:55
who sell certainty all day
2:57
long. You gotta have certainty,
2:59
you gotta have certainty. What
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they're trying to say is
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confidence and self, the ability
3:05
to push through, the ability
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to keep going, even when
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you don't know, to work
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through the doubt and to
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keep going, but certainty as
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an end, as a hope,
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as something you need, is
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the thing that we know
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in psychology and high performance
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studies actually hurts you. And
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so if you're trying to
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grasp at certainty, you need
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to know it's kind of
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not there. The world itself
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is changed and change brings
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uncertainty. The issue is so
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many people, when they are
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faced with uncertainty, suddenly they
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don't feel certain. And so
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they stop. Because they're seeking
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that child like grab at
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certainty. So they stop. And
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now they have this doubt.
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The doubt. instead of being
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a signal to learn and
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to skill up and to
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prepare. and to build, their doubt
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turns into discouragement,
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then disengagement. So
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the emotions that come from
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uncertainty leads me to doubt,
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because I don't feel certain.
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So I'm grasping. The doubt makes
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me now, I'll wait, so they feel
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discouraged because I don't know what
4:20
to do, so they disengage. So
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the very thing that you actually
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need in a new world or
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a new land is to explore.
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Right? You don't you don't travel
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across the seas to get to
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a new land and go shoot
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It's big new land here. I
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don't know what to do and You
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say well, I guess we'll get back
4:42
in the boats and we'll go
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back over there and you turn
4:47
tail and run The whole point
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of new lands is to explore
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that feeling in emotion and
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to keep going not to
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stop or double track And
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that's the difference is a high
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performance coach versus, you know, selling hype
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is, I gotta go, hey, no, this is part
5:04
of it. Let's talk about how you're
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dealing with it and make sure that
5:09
you stay open, make sure you
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stay adaptable, make sure you're building
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skills, and make sure you're active.
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If we can do those things,
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we're gonna have a whole different
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experience than those who shut down and
5:21
disengage. And so the good news
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is, that's what learnings for. you
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know, from your childhood
5:28
and from your current
5:30
experiences, you've learned a lot. And
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you, of course, you've gathered all
5:34
these playbooks, right? I equate it
5:37
and maybe it's not an apt
5:39
metaphor for today, but it's kind
5:41
of like a great general in
5:44
war, when a great general in
5:46
war, goes into war, and I work
5:48
with the military, they've got
5:50
playbooks. They, they know
5:52
strategy. They know battlefield
5:55
strategy. But they never know
5:57
exactly what strategy they're going to
5:59
deploy. until they've deployed, they see
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what's happening, and then they got
6:03
to choose from a set of
6:05
other strategies that could be put
6:07
in motion. They don't go in
6:09
with certainty or one truth or
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one strategy. The adaptability is high.
6:14
And while we're not on a
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battlefield, metaphorically in the entrepreneurial world,
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sometimes it feels like it. You're
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exhausted, you're out, you know you
6:22
got enemies, you got competition, the
6:24
bank accounts on the line. And
6:26
so it feels like your life
6:28
is on the line, your identity's
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on the line, your name's on
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the line. I mean, your name
6:34
is hanging out front on a
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board in front of a house
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sometimes, it's identity. And so when
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identity feels threatened, we feel like
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we're at war. What we have
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to remember though, is no one
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goes into war with one strategy. You
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go in with battlefield strategies, plural.
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And so you have to realize
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you develop so much skill, you
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have so many quivers. I know
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I'm mixing metaphors a little bit
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here, but you've got so many
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skill sets and so many playbooks.
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And now it's about being adaptable
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on the field, right? You don't
7:09
know until you're in the arena
7:11
what kind of animals you're gonna
7:13
face. You don't know until you're
7:15
in the battlefield what your customer
7:17
or the competitor is going to
7:19
do. And so train, train, train,
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skill up, skill up, but be
7:24
actively building and be adaptive in
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that building. And never, and this
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is important, never
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bemoan the fact that you have to adapt.
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When yourself talk is like, oh, this
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sucks. I have to change. I
7:38
have to try this new thing. I
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like the old way. When you
7:42
cling to the old ways, you usually
7:44
get shot. When you cling to
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the old ways or the assumptions that
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you had versus what the battlefield
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is, that's when we lose. And
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so don't be clingy
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to a decade ago strategy,
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you know? That's what, what
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people do. And people don't realize,
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see, we often think of retreat
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as an action, right? I'm running away
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from the battlefield. And so we
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think as a metaphor here, but
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retreat begins in the mind. You
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know, it's a mental game. I like to
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teach how it's like, okay, the real
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retreat begins at fear. And what
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most people don't realize about
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fear is there's four types of fear.
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And let's see if this is a
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resident with you guys today. The first
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type of fear that we have is
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called ruin. I'm going to be
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ruined. When we think about uncertainty,
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it's like, oh my gosh, my
8:38
whole way of life is
8:40
going to be ruined. This
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is called instant catastrophic thinking.
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Instant catastrophic
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thinking. A new change comes. So
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when you are immature in life,
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and I know that's not a word
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a lot of people like, but
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when you are immature in
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dealing with uncertainty, when you're
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immature in life, every new
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change feels catastrophic.
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And we immediately go,
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I'm ruined, industry's ruined,
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oh, everything's, it's, it's so
9:11
catastrophic. You know, there's ways
9:13
to look uncertainty, go, hey,
9:16
you know what, this might
9:18
be a five percent decrease.
9:20
This might be, right, you're
9:22
more fine and finite in
9:24
looking at the impact of
9:26
the change. When we have
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learned helplessness, which we talk
9:31
about in psychology and coaching,
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we just believe it's catastrophic,
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we believe it's personal, we
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believe it's permanent, we
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believe it's pervasive, right? That's
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ruin. And so we have to go,
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oh, okay, I'm worried about ruin. And
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another way that I like to
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tell people to think about ruin
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is this rumination. You're constantly
9:53
saying, you know, this really
9:55
equals, what if... followed by
9:58
a negative statement. All
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worry and all fear comes from
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this. What if this negative thing
10:05
happens and I'm not ready? I
10:08
can't handle it. It ruins me.
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So you start listening. This is
10:12
the self-talk cue. You're listening for
10:14
this. Am I saying what if
10:16
followed by negative? Or most of
10:19
my days, what if followed by
10:21
positive? It's not positive thinking. It's
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actually adaptive thinking. It's actually adaptive
10:25
thinking. It's actually adaptive thinking. So
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the first thing we fear is
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ruin. The second thing we fear
10:32
is rejection. By the way, these
10:34
are not necessarily an order. I'm
10:37
just teaching a framework here. So
10:39
rejection. Oh, if I do something
10:41
or if I'm not as successful
10:43
or if I don't do this
10:45
for my clients, everyone's going to
10:48
abandon me. I'm going to be
10:50
lonely. They won't approve. And this
10:52
is your judgment button. You know,
10:54
I was still people, most people
10:57
aren't scared to start a dream,
10:59
they're just embarrassed to be seen
11:01
starting small. Embarrassment is a form
11:03
of concern about rejection. So we
11:05
know from research that when people
11:08
have concern about rejection, when I
11:10
think an industry is volatile, when
11:12
people are going to say no,
11:14
they do less prospecting, less outbound,
11:17
because the assumption is going to
11:19
be no, I don't want to
11:21
do that. So they stop. The
11:23
second area that we know in
11:26
rejection I think is really important
11:28
right now for people to hear
11:30
is when they believe in industry
11:32
is volatile and they're scared of
11:34
less deals or less sales. A
11:37
very interesting thing happens and I'm
11:39
going to jump to another piece
11:41
of research. That is when people
11:43
have financial failure in their life
11:46
to the point of bankruptcy. So
11:48
this is bankruptcy research. They ask
11:50
people who go into bankruptcy. Did
11:52
you tell anybody? That
11:55
you were struggling and almost
11:57
always it's like no They
12:00
were embarrassed that their financial results
12:02
were not as good as they
12:04
used to be, so they didn't
12:06
talk to their spouse. Did you
12:09
know most spouses are surprised when
12:11
the couple falls into bankruptcy? Now
12:13
I know that sounds ruinous to
12:15
even talk about this conversation here,
12:17
but I think it's so important
12:19
because what we do is we
12:22
shut up. We silently suffer a
12:24
down trend. And we don't have
12:26
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12:28
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We convince ourselves we can't
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handle it because the responsibility at
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the next level is too much.
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Well, in uncertainty, we
14:46
don't want to be responsible for
14:48
the reality anymore. I
14:50
don't know the answer anymore. I'm
14:52
not the leader anymore. I don't have
14:55
the certainty and the perfect answer
14:57
for everybody. I'm embarrassed about that. I
14:59
don't want to deal with it anymore. A
15:02
lot of people destroy teams in times
15:04
of uncertainty because they don't want to
15:06
be responsible for the ship anymore. At
15:10
the very time, they've got to be in command at
15:12
the wheel. They just go,
15:14
I don't think I can handle
15:16
it. I don't know what's responsible.
15:18
You'll never see more teams
15:20
depart and
15:23
break apart than we
15:25
probably will next two years. They
15:27
just go, I don't want to do it anymore. We
15:30
abdicate our responsibilities. And
15:33
this is how you know when people don't
15:35
understand uncertainty or they haven't faced it before. They
15:37
just abdicate. They just step away. I can't
15:39
handle it. So why even try? So
15:42
for those of you, many of you
15:44
built very responsible lives. You're responsible for
15:46
a team. You're responsible for a territory.
15:48
You're responsible for your financial income
15:50
of the household. And
15:52
you don't want it anymore. You
15:55
shirk it. You know, you shrug
15:57
it off because you're like, this
15:59
is too much. to deal with right
16:01
now, I'm not capable. And
16:03
that's the words. What if I'm
16:05
not capable? What if I
16:07
can't handle this new reality?
16:10
And so you self-sabotage
16:12
because the responsibility
16:14
feels now, before responsibility
16:17
is fun when you're
16:19
winning, when you're losing
16:22
responsibility feels like
16:24
pressure. And so I always
16:26
tell all my clients, hey. Be wary
16:28
of how you are feeling
16:30
and sensing pressure because you
16:32
aren't responsible for the
16:35
world. You aren't responsible
16:37
for the economy. You
16:39
can only be responsible
16:41
for your daily prioritized
16:44
actions and how you treat
16:46
other people. And so just be
16:48
thoughtful about this. Don't
16:50
abdicate right now. Last piece on
16:53
this little framework of things
16:55
we most commonly fear
16:57
is Regret. I'm scared if
16:59
I don't do this action or
17:01
jump to this new opportunity
17:03
or try this thing, I'm
17:05
going to have regret. I
17:07
don't want to live with
17:09
regret. People fear that regret
17:12
on their deathbed and sometimes
17:15
that's the regret of things
17:17
they did and sometimes it's
17:19
the thing they did not do.
17:21
One thing and some of you
17:23
know my story with having faced...
17:26
my death multiple times in my
17:28
life of being a hospice
17:30
volunteer is I've seen that
17:33
people towards the end often
17:35
wish and feel a sense of
17:37
regret that they weren't more
17:39
stable for people in their
17:42
times of difficulty. I wish I'd
17:44
been a better dad through that
17:46
divorce. I actually heard that
17:49
one time from a gentleman
17:51
and it was a very emotional
17:53
thing. You know, I wish I had been...
17:56
you know, better to my team when this
17:58
thing happened. I wish one more... responsible
18:00
in this transition. It's like
18:02
we know that we want
18:04
to be responsible and stable.
18:06
So when I talk about,
18:08
or think about uncertainty, I
18:10
also think about there's a
18:12
stability in your character. Don't
18:14
do things you're going to
18:17
regret in volatility. And that's
18:19
what people usually do. They
18:21
bail. Like, you know, volatility
18:23
of economy, people get divorced
18:25
at greater frequency. you know,
18:27
when the bank accounts more
18:29
volatile, it's harder to keep
18:31
the home together. And I
18:33
think that what people do
18:35
is volatility, just like any
18:37
fear, causes us to look
18:39
shorter sight. Like we get
18:42
shorter sight, we get myopic,
18:44
and we forget the long
18:46
game. We forget about good
18:48
relationships and good business. Our
18:50
character is compromised, and that's
18:52
the step we tend to
18:54
regret when we compromise our
18:56
character. Like, okay, that's the
18:58
problem. There's fears, right? We're
19:00
going to fear these things.
19:02
And this what if negative
19:04
thinking stops us. So what
19:06
do we already know? And
19:09
this is so basic, I
19:11
know you're all going to
19:13
get. So what does success
19:15
look like in uncertainty with
19:17
daily prioritized action? We just
19:19
call it DPA. Okay, in
19:21
uncertainty. Yeah, things are uncertain.
19:23
How about you get a
19:25
level of structure and prioritization
19:27
to your day? Like start
19:29
there. You can't control the
19:31
world. You can control more
19:34
of the day. You can't
19:36
control the world's agenda. You
19:38
can control your life agenda.
19:40
And so basic daily prioritized
19:42
action means every day you
19:44
got a list. It's prioritized.
19:46
You work at my priority,
19:48
not by comfort. Many things
19:50
in times of uncertainty are
19:52
uncomfortable. And people put it.
19:54
at the end of the
19:56
list of the day because
19:58
it's uncomfortable. No, you work
20:01
the priority each day.
20:03
You got to return to
20:05
prioritization. This, DPA gives
20:07
you a sense of
20:10
purpose each day, even uncertainty.
20:13
And everybody needs that.
20:15
Then I like to add on
20:17
a few things. I like to
20:19
add on ER here. ER stands
20:22
for Emotional Regulation.
20:25
You regulating your
20:27
emotions. which starts with how
20:29
you handle the fear of
20:31
uncertainty, which starts with
20:33
how you deal with stress, anxiety,
20:36
frustration, doubts. So it's like,
20:38
okay, I'm gonna work my
20:40
power list here and I'm
20:42
gonna regulate myself throughout the
20:44
day emotionally. I'm not gonna
20:46
let the discouragement or
20:48
the doubt shut me down for three
20:50
hours. Okay, it's okay if I got down
20:53
or discouraged for 20 minutes, but
20:55
if you carry it all day,
20:57
it ruins the day. And
20:59
so emotional regulation, as I
21:01
stands for social influence, this
21:04
is during times of uncertainty
21:06
you prioritize socialization. You get
21:09
around people, you talk with
21:11
your team, you have more
21:14
conversations with the customer and
21:16
client, and you don't get
21:19
mad about those needs. Involitivity
21:21
or uncertainty. Don't get
21:23
mad that your spouse wants to
21:25
talk a little bit more. Don't
21:28
get mad that the customer
21:30
needs a third freaking phone
21:32
call. Don't get mad that the
21:34
pitch now takes four showings. You
21:36
can't get mad. You have to
21:39
prioritize that social influence
21:41
in uncertainty. So remember that
21:43
if you want to succeed,
21:46
we got to have your
21:48
daylight prioritized action, manage
21:50
your emotions, but deal with
21:52
people more. Focus on. being the
21:55
role model now, focus on being
21:57
the patient leader now, focus on
21:59
being... the leader that builds people
22:01
up slowly. And if you can do if
22:03
you can do that, it's
22:05
like a different, so it's so
22:07
different. It's a social the social component
22:09
that you prioritize.
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