This week Blake Lemoine, who was recently fired from his job as an AI bias mitigation tester and ethicist at Google, talks to us about LaMDA, the artificial intelligence system that he claims has achieved sentience. He also discusses centralization trends at big tech companies and how they hinder open scientific discussion and idea exchange. Listen in to learn about ethics in AI, consciousness and the difficulty of determining it, and next steps in Blake's journey as his chapter at Google closes. For a teaser article about this episode, or more articles on projects Movement DAO has profiled, see our Medium page.