0:00

I think early on I got it drilled in my mind

0:02

that , like the third party , stuff

0:04

is so much better and there may

0:06

have been some truth to that earlier

0:08

in the music technology

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not really true anymore , and I think Logic is

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a great example of it .

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to Inside the Mix . Today

1:01

I'm joined by Justin

1:04

Hoschella , music producer

1:06

, teacher and co-host

1:08

of the Face your Ears

1:11

podcast . Justin , along

1:13

with his co-host , rich Bosick

1:15

, helps musicians bring their

1:17

creative ideas to life through approachable , fun

1:19

and informative discussions

1:21

. A very good podcast . So in this episode we're diving

1:23

into Logic Pro's unsung

1:26

heroes , those hidden features

1:28

, hotkeys and tools that can seriously speed up your

1:30

workflow and improve your production

1:32

. So if you're a Logic Pro user , you're going

1:34

to love this one , and if you're not a Logic Pro user

1:37

, listen anyway , because you might

1:39

find something in there that piques your

1:41

interest . You might want to jump over to Logic or see

1:43

if your DAW does something

1:45

similar . Justin , welcome to the show

1:47

. Welcome to Inside the Mix . How are you

1:49

? Thank you for joining me today .

1:51

Thank you so much , mark . It's great to be

1:53

here . I am doing really

1:56

well and I'm very excited to

1:58

be on your show and talk about

2:00

something that I love , which is Logic

2:03

Pro .

2:03

Yes , I'm looking forward to this . As the audience knows

2:06

, I'm a Logic Pro user myself , so

2:08

this is right up my street and just before we were

2:10

recording this episode , we were discussing

2:12

a particular Apple plugin that I had

2:14

no idea existed . So , audience

2:17

listening , you're going to get a lot out

2:19

of this . So if you're feeling stuck in

2:21

your DAW or want to get the most out

2:23

of Logic Pro , this

2:31

episode will give you the practical takeaways to help you produce faster , better and

2:33

smarter . So the power of hot keys , speeding up our workflows . So I've done episodes

2:36

on hot keys before , so I'm not going to go into the ones I

2:38

use . But , justin , can you talk about your go-to

2:40

Logic Pro hot keys and how do they

2:43

improve your workflow ?

2:45

Yeah , absolutely . You

2:50

know I think there's probably a new hotkey I'm discovering , at least like once

2:52

a week , if not once a day . There's just so

2:54

many and as Logic evolves and

2:56

changes over time , they're just adding

2:58

more and more . But there's some , like

3:00

you said , that I just use all

3:03

the time . So one of them is

3:05

just the z key . So z

3:07

for zoom , and this is really helpful

3:09

if you're wanting to zoom in on a region

3:12

like a region of audio or midi

3:14

, and you know if you're way zoomed out and

3:16

on a really busy project , it

3:19

sometimes can be cumbersome to try and like zoom

3:21

in with the sliders or your mouse and trying to do that

3:23

over and over . So the z key just boom

3:26

, zooms in like full screen pretty much

3:28

on whatever region you're looking

3:30

at maybe you're looping it , listening to

3:32

it , that kind of thing . So I love using

3:35

that just for , like navigation

3:37

purposes . Um

3:39

, another one that I really

3:41

like it actually relates to markers

3:44

. So in Logic Pro for those that

3:46

don't know markers are

3:48

essentially like

3:51

almost like notes , like sticky notes at

3:53

the top of the screen that allow you to

3:55

have different sections of

3:58

your track marked , and

4:05

I use those a lot . So I really like to use those with clients , especially just to help

4:07

differentiate parts of the song , but I love using option

4:09

shift comma and option

4:11

shift plus , and so what those do

4:14

is they actually navigate backwards

4:16

and forwards through the markers really

4:18

quickly . So that's

4:20

a nice little workflow

4:22

that I've come up with . So

4:25

option shift comma

4:27

If you look at your keyboard it's actually like the

4:29

back arrow , so the comma

4:32

and the back arrow , and so option

4:34

shift period for

4:38

the other one to go forward , so

4:43

that one is really helpful to navigate and then , in conjunction with that

4:45

, the G key for global so

4:47

to find where these markers are

4:49

and other global features of Logic

4:51

Pro . Just hitting that G key

4:54

allows you to open it up , to

4:56

manipulate those markers or

4:58

the tempo for the track , all

5:00

kinds of global things for

5:02

the project . And

5:05

another one that I love I actually

5:07

found this one out fairly recently is

5:10

the V key . So V

5:12

as in Victor . So if you have

5:14

a really busy project with

5:16

like eight different plugin windows

5:18

that you're shuffling through , if you

5:21

simply hit the V key , they all

5:23

disappear , and so I love

5:25

that . It just cleans it up

5:27

. So if you just want to look at the arrangement , you're like I

5:30

don't want to like dig through all these plugin windows

5:32

and click , click , click and drag and drop

5:34

and all that . The V key is great

5:37

. So those are just some . Like

5:40

there's literally , you know , like you said

5:42

at the top , like there's so many . There's

5:44

some that you use , there's some that we're

5:46

discovering , but yeah

5:48

, they're fantastic . And

5:51

I just kind of , if

5:53

I find myself using something a lot

5:55

in a menu , I'll be like , okay

5:57

, what's the keyboard command for that

5:59

?

6:00

And I'll try and look that up . No

6:02

, that makes perfect sense . So , just to recap , you've got the

6:04

zoom , so we're zooming in on a particular region

6:07

. We've got option shift

6:09

comma and option shift period

6:11

, which is going to help us navigate through markers

6:14

, which I didn't know was a shortcut

6:16

, so I'm going to use that myself , so I've

6:18

learned that one . We've

6:27

got G for global as well , and v to make everything disappear , which I love . So all

6:29

options , uh , or rather shortcut , short keys , hot keys , if you will , that , um , that I'm going

6:31

to take forward and use myself . Do you use the third tool

6:34

in logic pro , because that's one thing

6:36

that I use a lot ? Well , I use all the time .

6:37

To be fair yeah , I I've

6:40

heard a lot about it and I I've

6:42

people advocate for it , but I haven't gotten in

6:44

the habit of using it and I'm curious

6:46

, like how do you use it in

6:48

in your day-to-day work ?

6:50

Yeah , I mean for me , I've I've got

6:52

it nine times out of 10 , it's gain

6:54

. I've got it set so I can use clip gain on

6:57

an audio region and that's that's where

6:59

I use it mostly Cool

7:07

Podcast editing and also editing in terms of all just like a music production session as well . So

7:09

I use it for the gain tool . And then my second I can't remember which ones they

7:11

are now is it the ? The right

7:13

click is my um

7:16

.

7:16

I use that for the marquee tool oh yeah

7:18

, a lot yeah yeah , I use that so much to mark

7:20

probably like the single most important

7:22

tool in logic I think , it's so

7:24

, so useful and and I love it yeah

7:27

, yeah , definitely .

7:28

And there's one that I use a lot , hotkey in

7:30

particular , and I wish I should have made a note

7:32

of it . So slap on the wrist for me and that is

7:34

the shortcut key command for

7:36

fades on an audio

7:38

region . Um , I want to say it's

7:40

shift and something

7:42

. I can't remember what it is off the top of my head , but

7:45

I do know there is a setting , I was told in Logic , where

7:47

you can go in and change it . So when you hover over the

7:49

left or right of an audio region , it will automatically

7:52

snap , like Reaper does , so

7:54

you can apply a fade . But that's another one I use

7:56

.

7:57

That's actually how I have my Logic Pro set

7:59

up . Is that ? The fades are just like the click

8:01

and drag on the regions . Yeah , yeah

8:03

, super helpful To be fair .

8:05

I should probably do that . It would make my life easier , specifically

8:07

with podcast editing , rather than having to use shortcuts

8:10

. I should probably change that , because it's what I

8:12

use all the time , which would make sense

8:14

. But no , some

8:16

really really good options there and , like you say , I mean we

8:18

could spend a whole episode you could do a whole series

8:20

really on going through

8:22

the different sort of hotkeys

8:25

and shortcuts available in Logic Pro

8:27

. But I think what we'll move on to next is

8:29

, or rather our plugins , so

8:32

plugins in Logic Pro , of which

8:34

there are many , and there are some amazing

8:36

plugins as well . I've got to say

8:38

I'm an avid user of those , as

8:40

, again , the podcast listeners know this

8:42

. So could you share a logic

8:45

pro plugin that you think is underrated

8:47

but incredibly useful ?

8:49

absolutely . You know , I think there's so many

8:51

, there's a lot , uh , and I

8:53

think what happens a lot of times

8:55

and I've been guilty of this too is like

8:57

kind of ignoring the stock plugins

9:00

because the , the marketing is so

9:02

aggressive and , and you

9:04

know , uh , ubiquitous for third

9:07

party stuff . And I think early

9:09

on I got it drilled in my mind that

9:11

, like the third party stuff is so much better and

9:14

there may have been some truth to that earlier

9:16

in in the , you know , music technology

9:19

timeline , but nowadays

9:21

that's not really true anymore , and I think logic

9:23

is a great example of to that earlier in the music

9:25

technology timeline , but nowadays that's not really true anymore and I think Logic is a great

9:27

example of it . So for me there are so many plugins built

9:30

into Logic that are fantastic . So

9:32

, as you can see , behind me I've

9:34

got a whole array of synthesizers

9:36

, hardware synthesizers , old

9:38

and new , and some

9:40

with MIDI , some without , all of that . But

9:48

one thing I use a lot because of all of these external hardware synths is the external instrument

9:51

plugin , and so what I used to do before I knew about

9:53

this plugin was you know if I wanted to use

9:55

my DX7 , right , I would

9:57

set up an audio track to capture the

9:59

audio , a MIDI track to capture

10:01

the MIDI , and you

10:03

know , go from there to kind of record

10:06

things independently

10:08

. And so what this plugin does is it

10:10

sort of combines those two into

10:12

one track . So I can set

10:14

the MIDI to the DX7

10:16

, and I can tell it to listen to whatever

10:19

you know ports on my audio interface

10:21

. And I can do that all in one

10:23

plugin . And , even better , I

10:25

have all of these presets right . So if

10:27

I want to use a piece of external gear

10:29

quickly , I just select the preset

10:31

for , you know , the Mo

10:34

grandmother that I have , or the

10:36

Yamaha SY77

10:39

, or whatever you know . I

10:41

just pull up that plugin and boom , I

10:43

can start , you know , recording a part

10:45

in . And so it's

10:47

really just efficient

10:49

to get a hardware synth up and running

10:52

. And I should say

10:54

that if you are using that and you record a

10:56

part in , it will show up in Logic as MIDI

10:58

and you can then bounce it

11:00

, you know in place , and it will capture

11:02

the audio . It has to play it in real time . But

11:05

, uh , you know that way you can

11:07

uh integrate it in as an audio file

11:09

. Uh , if you want to , you know print that and

11:12

go forward with it . So I love that

11:14

plug-in , use it all the time . Um

11:17

, another one and you and I were talking about

11:19

this before we started is

11:21

called the Sound Isolation plugin

11:23

and it's made by Apple . So

11:25

if you go into Logic

11:28

and you look at the Apple listing

11:31

of audio units , there's one called Sound Isolation

11:33

and this one's pretty neat

11:36

. Like , basically what it does is it removes

11:38

like room noise and reverb to

11:40

some extent . So if you have like an instrument

11:42

or a voice where it's like recorded in a bathroom

11:44

, or something . It isolates

11:47

the sound . And

11:49

I've got a quick example I'm just going to kind of turn

11:52

the plug in on and off and

11:54

we'll be able to kind of hear the effect

11:56

that this plug in has . So

11:58

here we go . I'm currently standing

12:01

in a bathroom within my house

12:03

because the ceiling , walls

12:06

and floor are all hard

12:08

, flat surfaces , so

12:10

the audio is going to have

12:12

a lot of natural reverb

12:15

to it and using

12:17

Apple's sound isolation

12:20

plugin I

12:22

can actually isolate my voice

12:24

and cut out some of the reverb

12:27

that's naturally occurring

12:29

within this recording due

12:32

to the nature of this room . So

12:35

in that example you can definitely

12:37

hear like the room room

12:39

tone , I guess , or the reverb

12:42

kind of getting quite

12:44

a bit reduced , if not eliminated , when

12:46

I turn that plug-in on and off . So it's

12:48

, it's like man , this is free and

12:50

it's built in like that's , that's wild

12:52

, like it's . It's such a cool plug-in

12:54

, um , and I've used it . You know

12:57

, like , for example , if you get a , a sample

12:59

of some sort , and there's just a lot of like room

13:01

noise or reverb to it , like it really

13:04

cleans it up . So it's , it's pretty

13:06

amazing . Another

13:09

plugin that I use it's

13:11

it's not super slick and cool but it's

13:13

very utilitarian the tuner

13:15

plugin . So Rich

13:18

and I are part of a production

13:21

company called RJB Music Production

13:23

and we'll do a lot of vocal tuning

13:25

for clients and it just comes

13:27

in clutch for doing all

13:29

of that editing and just making

13:31

sure we're dialing things in

13:34

and you

13:36

know tuning whether it's tuning a guitar

13:38

or a voice or whatever it's right there

13:40

. So you know , it's one of those simple

13:42

little things that like , if you don't know

13:44

it's there , you might go out and spend , you

13:47

know , 10 or 20 bucks on a tuner when you

13:49

don't need to . It's like it's right

13:51

there . And another one I

13:53

really like is the BPM

13:55

counter , which works really well

13:57

with , like drums or percussion , and

14:02

so it's just a simple metering plugin . I think it's in the metering section

14:05

of Logic . You just drop it in , put

14:08

in a drum loop and it'll

14:10

detect the BPM

14:12

of whatever that loop is , and

14:14

I remember when I found that I was like that exists

14:16

in Logic .

14:17

I had no idea

14:19

.

14:20

That's amazing . So

14:22

, you know , those are just some

14:24

of the plugins like just in terms of

14:26

like kind of bread

14:28

and butter , like everyday stuff . But

14:32

there's one plugin it's an instrument that

14:34

I feel like is super underrated , and

14:39

it's Alchemy . So , you

14:41

know , alchemy to me

14:43

is is unbelievably cool

14:45

, like it is super versatile , right

14:47

, you can use it for drums , pads

14:50

, bass , literally anything

14:52

, um , whether it's like retro

14:54

sounding or like futuristic sounding

14:57

, it just covers multiple forms

14:59

of synthesis and

15:04

I think what I really love about it and respect about it is

15:06

it's built to be accessible for

15:08

people who are , like new users , don't

15:10

know a lot about synthesis , but just

15:12

kind of want to quickly dial in a sound

15:14

. You know , it makes it really easy to do that

15:17

. But for people that are

15:19

, you know , veterans of the synthesis

15:21

world , you can open up the

15:23

hood and get into some pretty sophisticated

15:26

settings and features

15:28

and so forth to really go nuts

15:30

and dial in a really cool sound . And

15:33

you know , I'll talk about this a bit more

15:35

later . But you know , apple has

15:38

created just a universe of

15:40

sounds that I think are woefully

15:42

underutilized by people , and a lot

15:44

of these are related to alchemy , and

15:47

so there's just so much that

15:49

it has to offer . And it's like , you

15:51

know , so many people are out there buying

15:54

things like you know Serum 2 or Reactor

15:56

or you know other cool synths that are

15:58

out there and don't get me wrong , they're awesome or

16:01

Reactor or other cool synths that are out there

16:03

, and don't get me wrong , they're awesome . But it's like , don't forget

16:05

, you've got this powerhouse waiting for you within Logic Pro .

16:07

Yeah , those are all really , really

16:10

interesting ones . Alchemy I'm a massive

16:12

fan of I've said this on the podcast before

16:14

and I've done little sort of tutorial episodes where I've

16:16

used Alchemy to create like a synth bass or something

16:18

along those lines , and tour episodes where I've used alchemy to create like

16:20

a synth bass or something along those lines . And you're totally right in that it's accessible if you're

16:22

first starting out with synthesis , but if you want to dig deeper , then

16:25

you can certainly do that with alchemy and I've used it on so

16:27

many tracks in one way , shape or form

16:29

. Some of the sound designs in

16:31

there and the effects sounds that

16:34

they have are so good that

16:36

have been created and curated in there . The

16:38

BPM counter I did not know existed

16:40

and there's me tapping on my desk

16:42

trying to work out what the BPM is . Or

16:45

I think you can press T . That might be quite

16:47

an antiquated way of doing it in Logic

16:49

, but pressing T to try and get the tempo

16:52

. But I didn't know there was a BPM counter

16:54

. Yeah , and I'm always , always

16:57

looking for something like that whenever I pull

16:59

in a track or something like that to try and work

17:01

that out , man .

17:02

I did not know that existed . Yeah , I think

17:04

I really got into it because I was trying

17:06

to do tap tempo . It's

17:08

one of my gripes , I guess , with

17:11

Logic is they don't make it super intuitive

17:13

or easy to tap tempo . And I was

17:15

just trying to figure out what is the tempo

17:17

of this loop or whatever . And I

17:19

think I came across it in like a youtube

17:21

video or something and I was like what that

17:23

exists it's amazing and so I tried

17:25

it out on like drums and stuff like that and

17:28

it works really well very

17:30

cool plugin , the sound isolation

17:32

plugin .

17:32

So that is an apple plugin . Yeah , is that

17:34

in the library itself or how

17:37

do you access that in logic is ? That

17:39

what folder like , or categorization

17:42

as it . Where is it under ?

17:43

um , if you go into the logic under

17:45

the audio units menu , um

17:47

, it's not one of the stock like logic

17:50

plugins . You know how logic lists like

17:52

amps and pedals delay , distortion , all

17:54

that , it's not there you have to go under audio units

17:56

, apple , and then if you go

17:58

into the apple menu they're all

18:00

listed as au and then the name of

18:02

the plugin . So this one is au sound

18:05

isolation . So it's actually the last

18:07

plugin within the apple list , um

18:10

, and if you have the latest

18:12

version of logic , you can just search

18:14

for sound isolation one

18:16

word and it'll pop up .

18:18

Right , I get you . That makes

18:21

sense . That makes sense . Now I'm thinking

18:23

to myself why I wouldn't have seen that , and it's probably

18:25

because I don't dive into that particular folder

18:28

air quotes , as it were . But again

18:30

, podcast editing that's something that

18:32

is incredibly useful because you never

18:34

quite know the

18:37

interviewee , what environment

18:39

they're going to be in , what

18:41

noise you're going to have to possibly attenuate so that

18:44

existing is very useful to anyone

18:46

who wants to start a podcast or anything

18:48

or anything else .

18:49

They need to remove that

18:51

sound from yeah , super easy

18:53

to use just a wet dry slider

18:56

. So as you pull it towards dry

18:58

you get more of the like room tone

19:00

or reverb . Pull it to wet , you

19:02

know , you get more of an isolated sound .

19:04

Sometimes there's artifacts that get

19:06

presented , so you want to kind of dial it into the right

19:09

setting for for your application I

19:46

think it's a classic one of those , because there are I can

19:48

think of a waves plugin that will do it , and now I know

19:50

that isotype have one as well , because I do use

19:52

it myself . But but it's a classic example

19:54

of like , and I should do this is

19:56

just to dig a bit deeper into the native plugins

19:58

, as you'll probably find

20:00

something that will do the job or at least

20:03

bridge the gap until

20:05

you can find something else in your

20:07

native DAW and which kind of goes

20:09

back to what I said earlier about if you're not a Logic Pro user

20:12

, this could still , um

20:14

be relevant to you because

20:16

it could get you thinking about okay , well , I wonder if that

20:18

exists within my daw cubase

20:21

, ableton tools , reaper , uh

20:23

, whatever , fruit loops the list goes on , whatever it is

20:25

so really interesting stuff . I think

20:28

it'd be nice now to move on , because I think you

20:30

alluded to a bit there about the logic instruments

20:32

. So we've spoken about alchemy , sound

20:35

design , synthesis . Could

20:37

you talk about some go-to logic instruments

20:40

? Because there are , again , there are many , many

20:42

instruments in logic pro and packs

20:44

, sound packs yeah you find yourself using

20:46

regularly absolutely so

20:49

.

20:49

You know , for a long time I was sort

20:51

of defaulting to a contact

20:53

native instruments contact piano

20:55

called the grandeur , just a super

20:58

thick , lush piano . I'm like man

21:00

, this thing's great , use it all the time . And

21:02

then I came across the studio piano

21:05

built into logic , and I had

21:07

the same reaction and I'm like what ? Like

21:09

this is built in to

21:11

logic and on top of

21:13

that it offers up different

21:16

styles of piano . So like an upright

21:18

piano . You know that you might find

21:20

in like an old church basement , kind

21:22

of that clanky sound , and

21:24

it's just got a wealth of fantastic

21:27

sounds , whether it's , you know

21:29

, some sort of lush , orchestral

21:32

kind of piano style sound or something

21:34

more affected

21:36

and kind of older

21:38

sounding , that kind of thing . It's

21:41

amazing . So you know , for all

21:43

of those listening , if you use Logic

21:45

Pro , please just give

21:47

the studio piano a look , because

21:50

it's so easy to skip over something like that

21:52

, so something , so something so basic and

21:54

simple . But you know

21:56

, they nailed it , I think

21:58

, with the studio piano and , um

22:00

, I was definitely one of those people that was like , oh

22:03

, it's a stock piano , it's probably

22:05

not that great or whatever , and it's

22:08

like , you know , put it , put it in a

22:10

track recently and was like dang , this

22:13

thing is incredible . They nailed

22:15

it . So it's

22:17

also really easy to use , um

22:19

, and so there's not a ton of uh

22:22

, you know knobs and so forth on

22:24

it in the interface , but there

22:26

doesn't need to be , and the ones that are

22:28

there are very specific and

22:31

easy to use , so very intuitive , to get

22:33

that really nice piano sound . Um

22:35

, and you mentioned sound packs , and so that's something

22:38

that like it's frankly

22:40

overwhelming in the best way possible . I

22:43

I actually went into

22:45

my logic pro recently

22:47

just to kind of get a sense of

22:49

like what are we dealing with here

22:51

when it comes to like these loops and sound packs and stuff

22:53

, and like I think

22:56

my Apple loops library is now

22:58

39,000 plus and

23:00

that's from Apple , and I mean you

23:02

think about like how much producers

23:05

spend on like sound packs and stuff

23:07

and again , they're great , they're really

23:09

cool . There's a lot of awesome stuff out

23:11

there , but , like there

23:13

is a universe of sound that

23:15

is available in Logic

23:17

Pro , and so you know

23:19

, and I love the way Logic has

23:22

built the loop browser where

23:24

you can drill into like genre

23:28

and like , you know , style and instrument

23:31

and stuff like that , and there's

23:33

also the ability to like , select a specific sound pack . And there's

23:35

also the ability to select a specific sound pack . So if you kind

23:37

of like the vibe or the feel of a certain sound pack

23:40

, you can just select that

23:42

sound pack and start to navigate through

23:44

that one and explore it . And

23:47

so just incredible . I mean you could spend weeks

23:49

going through

23:51

and just previewing these

23:54

loops and these samples and stuff . So just

23:56

unbelievable , unbelievable stuff

23:58

in there . And Apple's releasing

24:00

more and more and they work

24:03

with , you know , current artists

24:05

, like contemporary artists that are out there . A

24:08

guitarist that I really love named Tosin

24:10

Abassi , created a sound

24:12

pack for Logic . I think it's only

24:15

available in the iPad version , and

24:17

so I'm like

24:19

just waiting for them to drop it for the Mac

24:21

version , because I love that guy , he's

24:23

amazing , and I heard some of

24:25

what they did for iPad

24:27

. Like man , I want that on the Mac

24:30

. So , yeah , it's cool to see that they're

24:32

continually growing and

24:34

expanding that universe of

24:36

sound . Um , and

24:38

you know , we talked about

24:40

like , just like internal instruments

24:43

, of built-in instruments , and for me

24:45

, there's one that I love . It's been around a while now

24:47

. It's called sculpture , and I

24:50

love sculpture for its

24:52

organic sounds . So sculpture is great

24:54

at modeling . It's like like I guess you would call

24:57

it a modeling synth and

24:59

it um , it's

25:01

basically mimicking uh

25:04

, surfaces is the best

25:06

way to describe it , I think like glass or

25:08

metal or wood , and you

25:10

can kind of craft your sounds

25:12

around those surfaces so

25:14

like it's really easy to get like a marimba sound

25:17

, uh , for example , with like the wood

25:19

surface , that kind of thing . But I

25:21

love it for bass , like it just comes up with

25:23

these gnarly like thick punchy

25:26

basses . So if you're looking for

25:28

that kind of a sound , check out sculpture

25:30

dial in a bass sound on it and

25:33

you'll have a lot of fun . It's super

25:35

amazing , very versatile , you

25:37

know , and it's sound design . So that's

25:39

one that I really love . Another

25:42

one that I think is

25:44

easy to overlook is RetroSynth . And

25:47

you know , because there's so many third

25:49

party plugins that kind

25:51

of do that sort of thing like

25:53

emulating like an old

25:55

analog Moog synth or like

25:57

an 80s fm synthesizer

26:00

or like a wave table kind of synthesizer

26:02

. But again , I think what they've done

26:04

is they've made it really accessible

26:06

, and so if you're somebody

26:08

that doesn't have a huge budget to

26:11

go out and buy a bunch of third-party plugins

26:13

, retro synth is there waiting

26:15

for you to make some of these retro

26:17

kind of sounds . And the

26:19

thing I'd love about um

26:21

retro synth is that it's

26:24

very faithful , very pure , like

26:26

recreation of popular retro sounds

26:28

, but it's it's

26:30

. It's that purity that I love because

26:32

it lends itself really well to effects like delays

26:35

and reverbs that are there's a whole host of

26:37

those , as you know , in Logic , but

26:39

it just it's so nice to have such a clean

26:42

, almost like perfect

26:44

sounding synth , especially

26:46

if it's retro . You know where you can

26:48

like go to town on effects

26:50

and really dial it into your taste . So love

26:53

that . And there's

26:55

a couple sound packs . I wanted to highlight

26:57

a couple favorites of mine . One is Vintage

27:00

Drum Machines . So Logic

27:02

has a sound pack by

27:04

that name and what I love

27:06

about it is it has

27:09

these drum machines that are very sought after

27:11

. But if you were to try and go out and buy them you

27:13

would need like a massive loan from the bank

27:15

, because you know you're talking

27:17

about like a Lynn drum machine and

27:20

then the Roland line , the

27:22

like 606 , the 808 , the

27:24

909 , like you're talking

27:26

like literally like 15

27:29

, $20,000 , right . And drum machines

27:31

there and those sounds especially

27:33

the 808 , right , like those are super

27:36

sought after and you

27:38

know it's so easy to um

27:41

, go out and buy a plugin or

27:43

a sound pack , but you don't need

27:45

to if you're a logic user , like they're . They're

27:47

there , um , and they're , they're

27:49

ready to use and they're professionally uh

27:52

, produced . They sound fantastic

27:54

, easy to use and

27:56

I love them . So definitely

27:58

recommend , uh , vintage drum

28:00

machines and there's another one

28:03

called transition effects , a sound pack called

28:05

transition effects , and it has a lot of alchemy

28:07

, uh , like presets

28:10

to it , but it's just , it's a great

28:12

pack or collection of

28:15

these sort of transition sounds

28:17

, like risers and sweeps and

28:19

like that kind of thing , and they're really

28:21

good at creating like tension

28:23

and , um , you

28:26

know , transitions between sections of the song

28:28

or like an intro or outro , like that kind

28:30

of thing , um , and so

28:32

really great starting point . Some of them you can

28:34

just , you , you know , insert right into

28:37

a production . But , um , those

28:39

are just a couple that I I

28:41

definitely recommend . And if

28:43

, if you're listening to this and you're like , oh , wow

28:45

, I didn't really realize this about sound packs , how

28:47

do I get them ? Um

28:50

, if you go into logic , uh

28:52

, just the logic pro menu , there's

28:54

a selection called Sound Library and

28:57

you can go in there and

28:59

you can open your Sound Library Manager

29:02

and it will kind of show you what you currently

29:04

have , what you don't have , and there's

29:06

an option to even download all

29:08

available sounds . So if you have a really big hard

29:10

drive and you want to go to town and

29:13

get those 39,000 sounds

29:15

like I was talking about , you

29:17

can do that . You can just download them on Felsweep

29:20

. So again Logic Pro Sound

29:22

Library and then you can download

29:25

sounds from there . So super

29:27

cool feature of Logic .

29:28

Pro Amazing . There was a lot

29:31

that you went through there . So , in particular , the studio

29:33

piano I think I've dabbled once

29:35

or twice with that Very , very good sculpture

29:37

I'm trying to

29:39

. I was racking my brains thinking have I ever

29:41

used that and do I recognize

29:43

it ? So that's something I'm going to dig into as well , because it's

29:45

not something I'm familiar with . What the retro synth

29:48

I've used it on occasion I need to spend

29:50

more time with . But what I think is really

29:52

important is that you mentioned the this

29:54

, the sound library and the

29:56

sample packs that are available , because I

29:59

myself I'm a splice user , um

30:01

, but I just never , it never crosses

30:03

my mind just to think and in particular

30:06

, transition effects , because transition effects

30:08

are something that I'm always digging out , digging

30:10

into and trying to find more of to

30:12

suit the piece that I'm working on , and I never

30:14

think , never consider , actually , well , what

30:17

is there in Logix hands

30:19

in the air ? I don't think I've used anything from the sample

30:21

packs since Logic Pro 9 , so

30:24

that's how far back it goes since I last

30:26

used anything from there . And there are so many

30:28

and they're on my hard drive already

30:30

and I just don't pay any attention to them . So

30:33

this has sort of kick started that

30:35

in me now to think , ok , well , maybe I just

30:38

need to . Before I reach just over

30:40

to splice , I'm gonna check and see what

30:42

is already here for me , and

30:44

maybe even as a song starter as well

30:46

, who knows . But yeah , it's very

30:49

inspiring stuff . But sculpture in particular

30:51

, I'm gonna dig into because again , not

30:53

something I've ever , never experienced . Well

30:55

, used , check out the bass , like I said , check

30:57

out the bass .

30:58

Like I said , check out the bass presets on Sculpture

31:00

. I think some of the pads and string sounds

31:02

on it are really good . It does a great job of

31:05

modeling string sounds as well

31:07

. But

31:09

also , I would just remind everybody

31:11

listening , if you dial into those

31:13

vintage drum machines , they work with

31:15

Logic Pro Drummer so you

31:17

can , you know , combine them with that to

31:19

come up with some really cool beats

31:22

and and fills and stuff like

31:24

that . So definitely worth checking out

31:26

amazing stuff .

31:27

I realize the , the , the time we have

31:29

here , uh , justin . So I think it'd be quite cool

31:32

if we go to the , the final part here

31:34

, which is uh , what's one logic

31:36

pro trick ? Every producer , artist

31:38

, user of logic pro should know . So if

31:40

you could share just one logic pro

31:43

trick or tip

31:45

technique , let's go tip or

31:47

trick . Every producer

31:49

, artist , musician should know . If you had to

31:51

highlight one this is a long way of me saying

31:54

this or asking this question what would it be

31:56

?

31:57

yeah , I actually just found

31:59

this out and I would recommend

32:01

this to anybody because this was driving

32:03

me absolutely bonkers for

32:06

the longest time . So here's the problem

32:08

, here's the , here's the setup . So

32:10

in logic pro , I would

32:13

be working on a song , you

32:15

know , and I'd have say like , like a MIDI

32:17

region , and I'd be like , okay , this is cool , I

32:19

want this to you know . Come

32:21

in at this other part in the song . So I'd select

32:23

it and copy it and

32:25

, just you know , hit , paste without

32:28

thinking about it , and invariably

32:30

what was happening almost nine

32:32

times out of 10 is

32:34

the region I copied would paste

32:36

on some other track that I

32:38

happen to have selected . And

32:41

this happened all the time . And

32:43

so I'd be like copying MIDI

32:45

and trying to paste it to an audio track

32:47

and then like copying a drum loop and then pasting

32:50

it to the guitar track and just being like , oh

32:52

, like you know , having to constantly like redo

32:54

my work , and it's not a big deal , but

32:56

you know , over time it adds up

32:58

right . So the I

33:00

had this happen to me recently and I'm like that's

33:02

it . There has got to be a feature to

33:05

solve this problem for me . And , lo and behold

33:07

, I found it . So let me save you

33:10

, dear listener , some time by

33:12

uh , directing you to logic

33:14

pro settings . So if you go to Logic

33:16

Pro settings , select

33:25

general , which is , I think , the default . So from general , go into editing

33:27

and

33:32

there is a checkbox there

33:34

that says select tracks on region slash marquee selection . Boom

33:41

Solves the problem . So if I go to select a region to copy it , it will then by default

33:43

select the same track that that region is on . So I don't have to think about

33:45

like , oh , do I have the right track selected

33:47

, you know , and have to clean that up and

33:50

it works beautifully . So now you

33:52

know , I go in like oh , I like this drum loop , I want , I want

33:54

, I want to . You know , paste this over here

33:56

. Just select it , copy it , move

33:59

my playhead to where I want it , paste it in

34:01

works beautifully perfect

34:04

.

34:04

I didn't know that existed and it's one I'm

34:06

going to use , because I did just that

34:08

either yesterday or the day before

34:10

and then , yeah , it was an audio region . It jumps

34:12

to the wrong place . So I I totally

34:14

share your frustrations with that and I'm so

34:17

glad that you found it and you're able to share it and

34:19

now that I can use it . So now

34:21

, excellent stuff . So , as a recap

34:24

, folks with Justin's expertise

34:26

here , we've been through shortcut

34:29

key commands , hotkeys , plugins that

34:31

deserve more attention , hidden gems in

34:33

Logic Pro's sound library

34:35

, and also that one

34:38

time-saving tip , so stopping audio

34:40

. Did it work for MIDI as well ? So it's audio

34:42

regions and MIDI , or is ?

34:43

it yeah , any anything yeah

34:46

for both .

34:46

Yep , amazing . I'm gonna

34:49

open Logic as soon as we're done and I'm gonna enable

34:51

that so I don't forget . Uh , justin , it's

34:54

been amazing to deep dive into Logic Pro's

34:56

hidden features with you today , so I thought it'd

34:58

be doing you a disservice if I didn't give

35:00

you the opportunity maybe just to talk a bit about

35:02

Face your Ears , the podcast you do

35:04

with your friend Rich . If you could

35:06

tell us a bit about that .

35:08

Absolutely so . My dear

35:10

friend Rich Bozic and I have

35:12

a podcast called Face your Ears

35:14

and it's sort of a portmanteau

35:16

of Face your Ears and it's sort of a portmanteau of face your fears . And

35:19

you know , the reason we started the podcast

35:21

is because we were thinking about

35:24

ourselves . When we first started , you know

35:26

, we had a lot of base level

35:28

questions that we wanted help

35:30

with , and you know , we just created

35:32

this podcast to help people

35:34

who are new to music production

35:36

and DIY audio and so forth , and

35:39

so that's kind of the angle that we're

35:41

coming from . But at the same time

35:43

, we also do cover topics for

35:45

seasoned veterans , and so we try

35:48

really to bring both

35:50

new users and seasoned

35:52

users together in this podcast and

35:54

focus on DIY

35:56

audio and music production . So

35:58

check it out . You can find us on

36:01

any podcast platform . So

36:04

wherever you get your podcasts Apple

36:06

podcasts , spotify , et cetera you'll

36:08

find us . Just search for face your ears

36:11

and you can find us online

36:13

at face your earscom , and

36:15

we're also on YouTube and

36:18

Instagram at Face

36:20

your Ears Podcast . So check us

36:22

out .

36:23

Fantastic . I will put links to

36:25

all of that in the episode show

36:28

notes , folks , so do go check out the podcast

36:30

this is a great podcast and also give

36:32

them a follow on Instagram and

36:35

YouTube as well . Justin , it's been

36:37

an absolute pleasure . Thank you for joining me

36:39

today . I know the audience are going to get loads out of this . I

36:42

know I have , if it's just me alone as a

36:44

Logic Pro user . So I cannot thank you

36:46

enough and I will catch up with you soon

36:48

.