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Marion, Illinois, an 11 -year -old
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girl brutally stabbed to death, her
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father's longtime live -in girlfriend maintaining
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Julie Begley is guilty. They've
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Still doesn't make sense. She found out
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she was pregnant in jail. The person
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Hello and
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Hello. Hello.
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And welcome.
2:01
My favorite
2:04
murder. That's
2:07
right. Here
2:10
it is. So,
2:36
not much true crime happened during
2:38
my time there, but in 1970s Vermillion,
2:40
two teenage girls went missing and
2:42
the case went cold for over
2:44
40 years. There's a book
2:46
called Vanishing Vermillion by Lou Raguse
2:48
that details this case much better
2:50
than I can, but I'll do
2:53
my best. On May 29th, 1971,
2:55
two 17 -year -olds, Cheryl Miller and
2:57
Pamela Jackson were on their way
2:59
to an end -of -the -school year
3:01
party in the nearby town of I'll
3:04
chester about 40 minutes away
3:06
when they disappeared without
3:08
a trace. Despite searches of
3:10
the surrounding land and creek, the girls in
3:12
their car were never seen again. The
3:14
sheriff at the time insisted that the
3:17
girls were runaways and the case quickly went
3:19
cold. They just ran away
3:21
on the way to a party, as you do.
3:23
In nine years, I think you and I
3:25
have said that phrase a thousand times. It's so
3:27
frustrating. It's the past. We can let it
3:29
go. It was reopened in
3:31
2004 and a classmate of the
3:33
girls was charged with their murder
3:35
in 2007, despite no bodies or
3:37
car ever being found. Those
3:40
charges were dropped in 2008,
3:42
and the investigation went quiet again.
3:44
That was until September 2013,
3:47
when a drought caused the rural creek
3:49
to dry up, and a citizen
3:51
of Vermillion who was investigating the case
3:53
on his own spotted the tires
3:55
of a car sticking out of the
3:57
water. Bro, I'm telling
3:59
you, half of every missing person's
4:01
case. Right. Or a car
4:04
is involved and someone disappears randomly is them
4:06
in a fucking body of water. Right. Also,
4:08
can you imagine being the person is like,
4:10
I'm taking this up. I'm going to try
4:12
to figure this out. A drought happens and
4:14
you're like, holy. It's over here,
4:16
everyone. I did it. Did
4:18
I do it? I did it. It's
4:20
so huge. Yeah. Okay.
4:22
The car in the creek was confirmed
4:24
to be the 1960s Studebaker that the
4:26
girls were driving. It had been submerged
4:28
upside down in the creek for 42
4:30
years. Sadly, the skeletal remains
4:33
of the two girls were found inside. One
4:35
source described the inside of the car
4:37
as frozen in time because the girls'
4:39
clothes, purses, and even a driver's license
4:41
were found with the remains. No
4:44
foul play was suspected since the remains
4:46
did not show injuries. The theory is that
4:48
the girls were unfamiliar with the roads
4:50
and the new bridge and somehow careened off
4:52
the road and into the water. A
4:54
sad and unfortunate ending to a
4:57
four decade long mystery. Thanks
4:59
for reading. Stay sexy and solve
5:01
cold cases. Wow. Geffen, she, her.
5:03
Man, the person who they accused
5:05
of killing them. Yeah. Having a
5:07
fucking good day that day. I
5:09
mean, but also just like, and
5:12
that life ruined because that tarnish
5:14
of like the name, the
5:16
association. Totally. Horrible. Absolutely. Okay,
5:19
my first one is called two
5:21
hometowns intertwined because my son knows
5:23
what's up. Howdy, murderinos.
5:25
I listen to you every day as I drive
5:27
to school through the woods. I have about a
5:29
half an hour drive where most days I might
5:32
see one logging truck and that's it. There have
5:34
been a couple days I have to change over
5:36
to are you garbage because I get too scared.
5:38
But I can usually turn you back on after
5:40
school for the drive home. Just we
5:42
scare them in the morning commute to the
5:44
woods. Yeah, that's too intense. Anywho, one day
5:46
this week I was listening and all a
5:48
sudden I remembered the killers we lived right
5:50
next to and I was like, oh my
5:52
god, a hometown of my own. We
5:55
had moved from Illinois to New Mexico
5:57
in search of more Sun our Sun
5:59
was going to sixth grade and we found
6:01
a small house in the town of
6:04
truth or consequences New Mexico I've always heard
6:06
of that town so interesting the place
6:08
was pretty crappy And we had to do
6:10
major cleaning to even feel comfortable sleeping
6:12
our son was not having it right off
6:14
the bat He said there was a
6:16
killer coming and he was too scared to
6:18
sleep in his room We
6:21
did all kinds of things to make him feel
6:23
comfortable. Then just said, heck with it. And he
6:25
slept in our room. And it
6:27
says New Mexico does have flying roaches. So there
6:29
are some pretty gross things besides thoughts of a
6:31
killer on their way. But also a child
6:33
saying, a killer is coming. Yeah. Can you
6:35
chill out, dude? Kind of dude. It's not
6:37
that thing of like, oh, there's a little
6:39
girl in the room with me. It's like
6:41
a killer is coming. coming. Cool. His
6:44
talk of a killer continued for several
6:46
weeks. And we were preparing for school to
6:48
begin. I was starting a new job,
6:50
things like that. It was July 4th, 1999,
6:52
and we were checking out the new
6:54
area and found out that we'd just moved
6:56
in to the home of the Toybox
6:58
Killer. No. And
7:00
the lake outside of town, Elephant Butte, where
7:03
we thought we would go for a
7:05
swim, was where this guy had been dumping
7:07
his victims. One of the absolute worst
7:09
fucking stories of all time. Long ago George
7:11
and I talked about like we're never
7:13
covering it because it is just simply carnage
7:15
and disgusting and horrifying. Why they just
7:17
fucking tear that house down? So they sold
7:19
it to a family? A family. and
7:21
didn't tell them. And the child's like, hey,
7:23
the vibes are so bad that I'm
7:25
having psychic experiences. Totally. If that
7:27
wasn't disturbing enough, our son
7:29
continued to talk about the killer. One
7:32
day we were watching the news, getting dinner
7:34
ready, and the news was discussing the railway
7:36
killer, who at the time was in Southern
7:38
Illinois. Our son said, that was
7:40
him, and he was coming. Oh,
7:43
we assured him that wasn't going to
7:45
happen and that he was safe. I
7:47
can't remember the timeline, but the railway
7:49
killer moved down to somewhere in Texas,
7:51
then overthrew the Panhandle or Oklahoma, and
7:53
then was caught, I believe, on I -25
7:55
in New Mexico. I -25 runs
7:57
right down to truth or consequences.
8:00
That child knew. Yeah. I'm going to look that
8:02
up now that I already wrote what I
8:04
recall. Okay.
8:07
Worse than I remember, I'm good at
8:09
forgetting disturbing things. I just
8:11
looked up that the railway killer
8:13
was arrested in El Paso about
8:16
two hours from Truth or Consequences
8:18
on July 12, 1999. We
8:20
moved south of T or C
8:22
to Caballo and made it about six
8:24
months in New Mexico, then headed
8:26
to Montana for normalcy. Our
8:29
son loved Montana and he is
8:31
still there safe and sound and
8:33
no serial killers. Stay
8:35
sexy and don't get murdered,
8:37
Jackie in the UP of
8:39
Michigan. Yay. Wow,
8:43
Jackie. That was a good one. graders
8:46
talking about killers coming. The killer's
8:48
coming. Prohibition
8:52
is synonymous with speakeasies, jazz, flappers,
8:54
and of course, failure. I'm Ed
8:56
Helms, and on season three of
8:59
my podcast, Snafu, there's a story
9:01
I couldn't wait to tell you.
9:03
It's about an unlikely duo in
9:05
the 1920s who tried to warn
9:07
the public that Prohibition was going
9:09
to backfire so badly. It just
9:11
might leave thousands dead from poison.
9:13
Listen and subscribe to Snafu on
9:16
the IHark radio app, Apple Podcasts,
9:18
or wherever you get your podcasts.
9:21
What would you do if mysterious
9:24
drones appeared over your hometown? I
9:27
started asking questions. What do
9:29
you remember happening on that
9:31
night of December 16th? It actually
9:33
rotated around our house, looking as if
9:35
it was peering in each window of
9:37
our home. I'm Gabe Lenners.
9:39
From Imagine I Heart
9:41
Podcast in Lenners Entertainment.
9:44
Listen to Obscura. Invasion
9:47
of the Drones. Wherever
9:49
you get your favorite podcast.
9:54
This email is kind of
9:56
totally insane. A little bit long, but
9:58
I think worth it. Okay. Okay. The
10:00
subject line is, my husband's
10:02
recently resurfaced repressed Boy Scout
10:05
memory. Oh, God. Uh -huh. Greetings.
10:08
My husband and I were watching Bob's
10:10
Burgers and then parentheses. It says my
10:12
favorite anxiety soothing show. After
10:14
finishing the episode where they scare
10:16
Louise by creating her own haunted
10:18
house legend such a good episode
10:20
My husband turns the TV off
10:23
turns to me and says I
10:25
just remembered something scary that happened
10:27
to me when I was a
10:29
kid So memories they just like
10:31
flit around and hang out and
10:33
tell some random fucking thing happens
10:35
or you smell something You're like, oh,
10:37
yeah. Yeah shit. I haven't really
10:39
wanted to be in a relationship
10:41
that much over the years until I
10:43
read that line and I'm just like,
10:46
that's what I want for myself. Someone to
10:48
go, hey, hey, I just have a recovered memory.
10:50
I have to tell you about it's horrifying. Okay.
10:53
Okay. I'm here for it. This is my love
10:55
language. Active listening. As
10:58
he pieced his memory together, I listened
11:00
on the edge of my seat. When he
11:02
finished, I immediately asked his permission to send
11:04
this in. Here's
11:07
what he could recollect. He was about
11:09
12 years old in the Boy Scouts
11:11
and on a camping trip a little
11:13
outside Graham Rapids, Michigan. He and his
11:15
troop were getting their camp set up
11:17
in the woods on top of a
11:19
ravine, ravine theme, near
11:21
a river when an older man drove
11:23
up. The man whose home
11:26
was nearby, seemingly seeing the troop
11:28
arrive, approached the scoutmaster to alert
11:30
him to some alarming news. Apparently
11:32
the older man had seen a man lurking
11:34
around the woods the night before. He
11:36
had called the police and was told
11:38
to be extremely cautious as there was
11:40
currently a murderer they were looking for
11:42
and they believed he may be hiding
11:45
out in the woods. Despite
11:47
this concerning news, the
11:49
Scoutmaster did not get the kids and get the
11:51
fuck out of there. Of course not. They
11:53
finished setting up the camp knowing that there
11:55
may or may not be a murderer nearby.
11:57
Jesus. As night fell and my
11:59
husband and his peers were settling down in
12:01
their tents to go to sleep, they heard
12:03
what sounded like a gunshot coming from
12:06
a couple hundred yards away by the ravine.
12:08
A few moments passed and a
12:10
second gunshot sounded. The Scoutmaster
12:12
finally rallied the troops. telling
12:15
them to be quiet and began leading
12:17
them towards where they had parked the
12:19
van. Great. So after multiple gunshots. Yeah.
12:21
Now is the time in the dark
12:23
to go. On writ to the van,
12:25
creeping along the ravine as quietly as
12:28
possible, the troops were met with a
12:30
horrifying scene. At the
12:32
bottom of the ravine was a man
12:34
in a camo jumpsuit standing next
12:36
to a blood -soaked sheet. covering
12:38
a lump of something corpse like which
12:40
was next to a big hole in
12:42
the ground that he was actively digging.
12:44
Oh no. A shotgun leaned on a
12:46
tree next to him. The man moved
12:48
the body into the grave and the
12:50
scout master thought it would be a
12:53
good idea to confront the gun toting
12:55
possible murderer. No. He shouted hey and
12:57
started going. down the ravine. What the
12:59
fuck? The camo man looked up and
13:01
moved toward the tree where his shotgun
13:03
was leading. Also on the tree was
13:05
a gas lantern hanging from a branch.
13:07
As the man reached for his shotgun,
13:09
he also turned off the lantern.
13:11
Cool. Okay. This
13:13
is literally an email from
13:15
Blumhouse Films. Like, this is insanity.
13:18
The Scoutmaster had a lantern as well,
13:20
which dimly illuminated his movements that the
13:22
boys could see from the top of
13:24
the ravine. As the Scoutmaster made his
13:26
way towards the Camel Man, a burst
13:28
of light erupted from the Man's shotgun. The
13:31
Scoutmaster fell, and his
13:33
lantern was extinguished. What? The
13:35
boys, all terrified, began running
13:37
towards where they thought the van
13:39
was, the van was gone. They
13:43
started running down the road leading
13:45
away from the campground as they
13:47
were running. They were halted by
13:49
two freshly butchered cattle heads that
13:51
were lit on fire, swinging from
13:53
tea tree branches. You can't.
13:55
As the kids were all peeing their
13:58
pants and preparing for their too soon
14:00
deaths, the van appeared.
14:02
Driving it was their scout
14:04
master and riding shotgun
14:06
was the camo man. You
14:08
mother fuckers. You
14:10
fucking... Psychopaths.
14:12
What? You took it too
14:14
far. You took it too far. You, first
14:17
of all, what are you
14:19
doing in the Boy Scouts? There's
14:21
something wrong with you. Oh, my
14:24
God. Apparently, this was a super cool,
14:26
well thought out, trauma -informed prank played
14:28
by two adults who should never
14:30
be allowed near any children again. No.
14:33
Thank you for your podcast. I'm a
14:35
social worker. Thank God you're a
14:37
social worker. Yeah. Because your man needs
14:39
you now more than ever. What
14:41
the fuck? I hate those
14:43
two men so much. It's
14:45
almost like his recovered memory, like
14:48
the trauma isn't that that happened, it was that it
14:50
was they were played a prank on. Like it
14:52
was that traumatic that they were played that specific prank
14:55
that he had to forget it. Then they had
14:57
to get it in the prank. Right. But then they
14:59
had to get into a van with two men
15:01
that would play that prank. Seriously, and spend the rest
15:03
of the night or weekend or whatever there. Jesus.
15:07
Okay, so thank you for your podcast. I'm
15:09
a social worker and my job can be a
15:11
lot sometimes. I can't tell you how much. I
15:13
appreciate laughing alongside you ladies as I clean my
15:15
house and do my best to keep going, even
15:17
when things are terrible. Thanks
15:19
again, Gina. And then in parentheses,
15:21
it says, and Dan, my husband
15:23
who graciously agreed to share his
15:26
story. Dan. Thanks, Dan. Dan.
15:28
Dan, you deserve a nice cream. Oh,
15:30
that's awful. That is just, you
15:32
can't. You shouldn't, and you won't. And
15:35
please don't. Please don't. Good Lord,
15:37
the lawsuits. I mean,
15:39
this one's called Trash Kid
15:41
Girl Scout Edition. Oh,
15:43
okay. We're doing some scouting themes. Nice.
15:45
Oh, yeah. That's weird. Hi
15:47
friends, longtime listener, first -time writer. Growing
15:49
up, instead of sports or dance
15:51
for extracurriculars, my sisters and I
15:53
did Girl Scouts, probably because my
15:55
mom worked for our local Girl
15:57
Scout Council. Looking back on it,
15:59
it was probably the best decision because I
16:01
was a very clumsy child. One
16:04
summer when I was eight or nine, I was
16:06
at a friend's birthday party and was playing
16:08
on the zipline in their backyard when I let
16:10
go way too soon and broke five bones
16:12
in my left arm. Geez. It was
16:14
the end of May, so this obviously limited
16:16
the amount of summer activities I could participate
16:18
in. My mom's creative solution
16:20
was to put me in an ASL
16:22
class. Oh. Like sign language.
16:24
Yes, learn sign language. That's smart. And then it
16:26
says, you know, whether you have to use
16:29
both your hands to sign. I'm
16:32
still not sure if she thought that through
16:34
all the way, but it was air conditioning, which
16:36
is a big plus for Houston summers.
16:38
I got assigned my own name, learned how
16:40
to sign stop in the name of
16:43
love by the Supremes. Nice. fucking pretty great.
16:45
And some basic vocabulary. Flash
16:47
forward to the following spring when it's
16:49
cookie season and my Girl Scout troop is
16:51
selling cookies at our local grocery store.
16:53
Being the youngest of three sisters, I'm just
16:55
a little competitive and my goal was
16:57
to try to lure in the most customers.
16:59
So I decided to use my summer
17:01
activity to my advantage and began signing, would
17:03
you like to buy some Girl Scout
17:05
cookies to anyone who walked by? And
17:07
wouldn't you know it, a lot more
17:09
people stopped at the booth instead of
17:11
walking on by. This is
17:13
called Trash Kit. When
17:16
people started asking me questions about the
17:18
cookies, I realized I didn't know enough sign
17:20
language to keep going, but I also didn't
17:22
want to blow my cover and start talking.
17:24
So what did I do? Signed
17:27
the Supremes on a loop. They
17:31
don't fucking know. They didn't take
17:33
ASL last summer. My
17:35
mom was also my troop leader, but she
17:38
was helping with the other booth on the
17:40
second entrance, so she was not wise to
17:42
my antics. Wait, sorry. Did she truly and
17:44
on purpose or was it like, oh, here's
17:46
an interesting thing I can do and then
17:48
realized? It worked. It worked and people.
17:50
going. Yes. So either way, it's bad.
17:52
Yes. Either way, Trash Kid, which I love.
17:54
Yes. This is a theme that we
17:56
absolutely have to explore. But when I told
17:58
her how we were able to sell all
18:00
of our stock that day, she just laughed
18:02
and said, she was glad I learned something
18:04
that summer. I am
18:06
now a lifetime member of the Girl Scouts
18:08
and try to support the local troops when
18:10
I see them out and about selling cookies
18:12
because it really did help me face my
18:14
fear of talking to people in public or,
18:16
you know, signing to them. Thank
18:18
you for all you do, bringing humor
18:20
amidst the frustrating climate we find ourselves in
18:22
this country. My dog Atlas and I
18:24
take a walk every day at lunch and I always
18:26
listen to MFM to have a laugh before I have
18:29
to go back to work. Stay
18:31
sexy and support your local Girl
18:33
Scouts, Stacy. Stacey. And
18:35
take a signing class. Yeah, you should know how
18:37
to do that. I mean, I've always wanted to
18:39
learn. I have to. There was actually
18:41
a TikTok where a woman was just talking about
18:43
that and I think there might be an app
18:45
where you can learn ASL. That's a good idea.
18:47
I'm gonna look that up. Prohibition
18:51
is synonymous with speakeasies, jazz, flappers,
18:53
and of course, failure. I'm Ed
18:55
Helms, and on season three of
18:57
my podcast, Snafu, there's a story
19:00
I couldn't wait to tell you.
19:02
It's about an unlikely duo in
19:04
the 1920s who tried to warn
19:06
the public that Prohibition was going
19:08
to backfire so badly. It just
19:10
might leave thousands dead from poison.
19:12
Listen and subscribe to Snafu on
19:14
the IHark radio app, Apple Podcasts,
19:17
or wherever you get your podcasts.
19:20
Imagine you're scrolling through TikTok. Imagine
19:23
you're scrolling through TikTok. You come across
19:25
a video of a teenage girl and
19:27
then a photo of the person suspected
19:29
of killing her. It was shocking. It
19:31
was very shocking. Like that could have
19:33
been my daughter, like you never know.
19:35
I'm Jen Swan. I'm the host of
19:37
a new podcast called My Friend Daisy.
19:39
It's the story of how and why
19:41
a group of teenagers turned to social
19:43
media to help track down their friend's
19:45
killer. Listen to my friend Daisy on
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the I Heart Radio app. Apple podcasts
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or wherever you get your podcasts.
19:52
Okay, here's my last one. The
19:55
subject line is, museum guests, the
19:57
good, the bad, and the unforgettable. Hi,
19:59
I'm FM Crew. I heard we're sharing
20:01
stories about guests behaving badly in museums,
20:03
and oh baby, I could go on
20:05
for days. I worked at
20:07
a Titanic Museum in East Tennessee for
20:09
eight years. Why would
20:11
East Tennessee have a Titanic Museum? Guys.
20:14
Maybe they'll tell us. It
20:16
was always busy and I can still say Titanic
20:18
facts at the drop of a hat. Did I tell
20:20
you that my sister said that the kids in
20:22
her class are obsessed with the Titanic because there's a
20:24
book, the boys are obsessed because there's a book
20:26
in the library about it and they all fight over
20:28
the, I mean, there's a book in her classroom
20:30
about it and they fight over it and they talk
20:32
about it all the time. Yeah, we were, that
20:34
was like the scariest thing as a kid. The Titanic.
20:36
The Titanic. Okay. We
20:38
had more than our fair share of stupid people.
20:40
come through the museum, but my favorite example was
20:42
this. I was telling a group of guests
20:45
one day about the differences between the film and
20:47
the actual sinking, and I would always start
20:49
with, I am sorry to tell you, the Jack
20:51
and Rose were not real. Usually
20:53
this got a laugh, but one
20:55
day a woman loudly shouted at me, yes they
20:57
are, I saw them on Oprah. She
21:00
was not wrong, but she was not right either.
21:03
I walked into a gallery just
21:05
in time to watch two teenage
21:07
girls hip -check a case and a
21:09
$150 ,000 life jacket fell off
21:12
its stand. My Italian grandmother
21:14
would be proud of the yelling I did that
21:16
day. I've watched people literally lick
21:18
glass cases called the cops on
21:20
people stealing from the gift shop
21:22
and I've had some people literally
21:24
spit in my face. What? At
21:26
a museum. At a
21:28
museum for maritime disasters. That's
21:31
insane. However, we
21:33
were lucky to have some really amazing
21:35
guest interactions as well. I met a
21:37
World War II vet who had coffee
21:39
in Paris with Ernest Hemingway once. Wow.
21:41
One day I was giving a tour to
21:43
a group from New York and as a
21:45
New York native, I always felt a kinship
21:47
with them. We were talking about 9 -11
21:50
and I had a parallel I like to
21:52
use for 9 -11 and the Titanic in parentheses,
21:54
world impact, emotional impact. It's a whole speech
21:56
I worked very hard on as I have
21:58
very strong memories of that day. When
22:00
I was done, a woman came came
22:02
up and hugged me. She told me quietly
22:04
that she had been in the towers
22:06
that day and was one of the few
22:08
people from her floor to survive. Oh
22:10
my God. She was happy to
22:12
think that someday her friends and co
22:14
-workers stories would be shared with the
22:16
love and care that we share the
22:18
Titanic passenger stories. I think
22:20
about her frequently and I hope she's doing
22:22
well. Sending you ladies and your team lots
22:25
of love. Y 'all keep me sane most days
22:27
on my drive to and from work. Stay
22:29
sexy and watch your kids. And
22:31
it says that in all caps of the
22:33
period. kids. And watch
22:35
your kids. XO Stephanie. Oh my
22:37
God. Wow. That
22:40
had layers. It really did. And I
22:42
didn't realize I like scanned it
22:44
of course. I like it when it's
22:46
fresh for me too, but. I thought it
22:48
was like museum guests in general, like I've been
22:50
a docent here and there or whatever, but
22:52
it's like, listen to this shit that goes on
22:54
at the Titanic Museum in East Tennessee. East
22:56
Tennessee, we barely knew you.
22:59
Come on. Okay, my last one
23:01
I love because it just
23:03
shows you the breadth of hometown
23:05
stories that we're accepting at this point
23:07
and that if you don't have one
23:09
yet, keep listening because you're going to
23:11
have one one day. Yeah, this is
23:13
called, my dad accidentally became a snail
23:15
breeder. Which fits. Which is
23:17
now. Which is welcome. Fitting. Holy.
23:19
With the podcast theme. Hey,
23:21
MFM crew. Like,
23:25
you know what I mean? Yes. This person may
23:27
be listening for years and years, and then suddenly
23:29
it's their time to shine. like, you know
23:31
what I know they'd like? Yeah, like, you know
23:33
what they just talked about? Breeding snails. Korean
23:35
skincare. That's right. Hey, MFM crew,
23:37
I was listening to episode 470, Except
23:39
No Dare, when you mentioned breeding snails
23:41
for Escargo. Well, do I have a
23:43
related story for you? Oh, yeah, we
23:45
went into a whole escargot thing. Yes,
23:47
because we thought about a great idea
23:49
would be... to breed snails and sell
23:51
them to restaurants. Like, that's a great
23:53
money -making scheme. If eggs are $17 a
23:55
carton, let's get those snails up
23:57
there. Seriously. My dad accidentally
23:59
became a snail breeder, not for
24:02
escargot, but for aquariums. For
24:04
as long as I can remember, my
24:06
dad has had a large 55 -gallon fish
24:08
tank. Oh, that's the most high -maintenance fucking
24:10
hobby, right? My dad had the one that's
24:12
about a foot and a half wide,
24:14
and he's like, that thing's going to kill
24:16
me. He just couldn't deal with it. The
24:18
occupants rotated over the years as fish died
24:20
and were replaced. About two years ago, my
24:23
dad bought a small freshwater puffer fish, which
24:25
ate, you guessed it, snails. Ooh, I didn't
24:27
know that. Oh, I didn't need it. My
24:29
dad bought some snails to feed the puffer
24:31
fish. It refused to eat and died. Okay.
24:35
The snails were left to up. That's the
24:37
whole story. The snails were left to
24:39
clean up the tank by eating the algae.
24:41
As they got bigger, they started laying
24:43
eggs. My sister, who still lives at home,
24:45
was horrified and threatened to crush the
24:47
eggs in the night. She threw
24:49
her sister under the bus. Despite
24:51
the threats, the eggs hatched and
24:53
he had dozens of baby snails. When
24:56
they were about an inch wide, he sold them
24:58
for 50 cents each to the local pet store. Since
25:01
then, he sells at least 50 snails
25:03
to the pet store every couple months. He
25:06
marks adult females and males he catches in
25:08
the act and known egg layers so he
25:10
won't sell them accidentally. This
25:12
has become like a fucking... It's like
25:14
he's got a cattle ranch, but it
25:16
snails. He now has
25:18
multiple tanks for the snails. He fucking
25:20
went, he's just like, this is okay.
25:22
And has had over 100 at once
25:24
before selling them off. Wow. Fun fact,
25:27
the snails love green beans. I'm
25:30
a PhD student in cancer biology
25:32
and have spent several afternoons doing
25:34
punnett squares. Thank you for writing
25:36
that phonetically, with my dad to
25:39
figure out how to get snails
25:41
with purple shells, like how
25:43
to breed snails with purple shells. I
25:45
will often get a text with a photo of
25:47
a pet store snail with, will this help with
25:49
my genetics? SSDGM
25:52
and let your dad hatch his
25:54
snails. A. Wait, will you
25:56
go back? There's a sentence that you read
25:58
before we got into the purple shell. Fun
26:00
fact, the snails love green beans. That is
26:03
the funnest fact I've ever heard in
26:05
my life. I think that's the number one
26:07
fun fact of my life. When you
26:09
say I have a fun fact, it should
26:11
be the equivalent of that, because so
26:13
many fun facts are not fun or a
26:15
fact. Yeah, exactly. But snails love green
26:17
beans. Snails love green beans. That is fun.
26:20
You can see it in your head of
26:22
a snail just like chowing down and loving. Just
26:24
being like, finally. Wait, does he eat it
26:26
like a corn on the top? Or does he
26:28
eat it like a sandwich? I think he
26:30
has to put it on a table. Because
26:33
he doesn't have any other way to hold it. Or
26:35
he gets a chipmunk and a little
26:37
squirrel to hold it up for him.
26:40
Oh my god. Oh no. He tucked
26:42
a little bib into his shell. We
26:44
just made a cartoon for the cartoon network. Oh
26:48
my god, that's it. Do you guys have any stories that
26:50
are weirder? Do you guys have any snails? Did
26:53
it rain in your town? Let
26:55
us know how many snails came out
26:57
the sidewalk. I want a competition of
26:59
the weirdest story subject, but it is
27:01
related, because I think this snail story
27:03
wins right now. Yeah. Like, this is
27:05
a weird story. However, it
27:08
is related to something you guys have talked about
27:10
on an episode or on a minisode, wherever. Sure.
27:12
Yeah. Right? Yeah. Or
27:14
not. Whatever. We
27:16
won't know. Dad snail breeder is
27:19
a bit free -floating. Oh, no,
27:21
that's not true. It's cargo based.
27:23
We asked about snail breeding. Like
27:25
we talked about snails and how
27:27
they're bred and like, it's
27:29
totally a thing we talked about. And that's basically
27:31
it's kind of like, hey, we're not experts
27:33
in terms of like, no one's got a master's
27:35
degree in snails and snail breeding, but we're
27:37
in it. We're in this biz. And do you
27:39
know more about it? Tell us. Do you
27:41
know what they love to eat? Green beans. I
27:44
do. We're curious people. Green beans. I'm
27:47
going to pull that one out the next
27:49
time I'm feeling awkward. Do it. Yell it.
27:51
Fun fact. Everyone. Thanks
27:54
for listening. Right to my favorite murderer, Gmail.
27:57
Stay sexy. And don't get murdered.
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