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have you had a wonderful Easter? Well,
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not a lovely Easter weekend,
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I'm afraid no. Why
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is that? Well, I haven't been very well, as you
0:39
might be able to hear from my voice. But
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I've been really unwell. I've just
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been terrible sore throat, really achy muscles
0:46
and not been able to do
0:48
anything at all. So I missed out
0:50
on all of the family get -togethers.
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Yeah, you didn't come to ours, didn't
0:55
go to your wife's. parents? No. Didn't
0:58
go out with your kids yesterday? No.
1:02
I mean, there are people listening who
1:05
would say lucky you. But
1:07
no, I felt like I missed out
1:09
seeing at home on my own. Yeah.
1:13
But we'll have to do it again. Okay.
1:15
We'll have to have another lunch. Yeah.
1:18
But what are you doing tomorrow? I'm
1:21
going to do some work on
1:23
my home capsule. Oh,
1:25
yeah, that's good. Yeah. Oh, that's the thing
1:27
we're supposed to be talking about, isn't it?
1:29
My time capsule, the podcast, which
1:32
is approaching its fifth
1:34
birthday. It is. This
1:36
time next week, we shall be five. Oh,
1:41
that means we have to start going to school, John. I
1:43
know. That's no good. No.
1:46
I don't want to do that. I don't think we
1:48
need to. No? At
1:50
least we don't get homework for a few
1:52
years. That's good. Yeah, not yet. I've
1:55
got far too much of that to do. Yeah,
1:57
five years
1:59
seems like about 20,
2:01
doesn't it? It
2:04
also seems like no time
2:06
at all. True,
2:08
true, yeah. But then when
2:10
you think about things,
2:12
when we started this just
2:14
before lockdown, so
2:16
before COVID really, I'd
2:19
done some recordings for people. I went
2:21
to their house, popped up to London,
2:23
you know, thought we're going to nice
2:25
little casual podcast, just maybe
2:27
one a week. And
2:29
then suddenly everybody said, oh, there's
2:31
this horrible thing going around and
2:33
you can't go out. So
2:35
I got in touch with everybody
2:38
and said, you want to record
2:40
a podcast? And suddenly we had
2:42
50 episodes or recorded over Zoom,
2:44
which is sort of how we've
2:46
carried on. It would have been
2:48
a very different podcast, I think,
2:50
had COVID not happened. Yeah,
2:53
I'm sure it would have been. Because we probably would have
2:55
never done any Zoom recordings. No.
2:58
Well, I don't know. Maybe, you know, I mean,
3:00
the idea when we started was maybe we'll
3:02
get big enough and we can just fly off
3:04
to America and do some recordings there with
3:06
people. But that's never happened, is it? But
3:09
we have, on a number
3:11
of occasions, just
3:14
Zoomed with people in America. And it
3:16
seems to me that the internet connection
3:18
between the United Kingdom and America, probably
3:20
once Trump works out that they're
3:22
spending more on it than we are,
3:25
he'll cut it. We won't need
3:27
it anymore. Hey, they're just ripping
3:29
us off. But
3:31
they've all worked out rather well, I
3:33
think, the American ones. Yes.
3:36
Not necessarily Rita Rudner, which
3:38
was a very difficult
3:40
recording. Yeah, well
3:42
put that together. Yeah, that was a
3:44
nightmare, wasn't it? Because, I mean,
3:46
the Zoom call, that wasn't very good,
3:48
but also she was in an
3:50
enormous room in an enormous house. Yeah,
3:52
the smallest room in her house. The smallest
3:55
room in her house. But
3:57
I said to her, is there a smaller room you
3:59
can go to? She said, I could go to the
4:01
pool room. But also, those sort
4:03
of like LA mansions are all marble
4:05
and stone, aren't they? So they're very
4:07
eerie places. And I don't
4:09
know. I've not. I've
4:11
only ever visited hers. Yeah. Oh,
4:14
well, it was all stone and marble. And
4:16
then she recorded herself,
4:19
but you're all over
4:21
the recording. Yeah. So
4:23
we used that in the end.
4:25
We did use that, but trying to
4:27
nip you out. Yeah.
4:30
Which is actually what one
4:32
of our latest guests had
4:35
done. Yeah, and I was
4:37
going to use her recording and then
4:39
I heard you all over it
4:41
So I couldn't so I had to
4:43
go back to the zoom recording.
4:45
She was sad that Sam dick arrestee
4:47
Excuse me Really? Yeah,
4:49
her recording has had you all over it.
4:52
She's a bit of a shame Well, I
4:54
think you're fine. We've got a guest coming
4:56
up with it's exactly the same situation We
4:58
have to keep making sense to people. Can
5:00
you wear headphones? But yeah,
5:02
a lot of people don't Got
5:04
to be more stringent, I think.
5:07
Yeah, Sam Nicaresti was she was
5:09
really fabulous. I thought I
5:11
really enjoyed talking to her and
5:14
a very entertaining episode where
5:16
she chose some very funny things
5:18
and everything that she chose
5:20
she had there. So
5:22
she she'd done that thing of being
5:24
really literal. I want to put these
5:26
things into a time capsule. I
5:28
think if you I would
5:30
also if you say that
5:32
if you watch, listen to
5:34
the episode, it's really worth
5:37
watching Sam's special because it's
5:39
incredibly funny, very skillful. She's
5:41
really bright and funny. But
5:44
it's also, I think, a very
5:46
reasonable argument for all the things that
5:48
have been going on recently. So
5:50
I think it's well worth watching. Yeah,
5:52
absolutely. There we are. I think, yeah, I
5:54
think that's the thing. If you are worried about any
5:56
trans issues or anything, then I
5:58
think she is a good example
6:01
of just someone trying to
6:03
live their life and it's,
6:05
you know, they haven't chosen this
6:07
path, particularly in this no, I
6:10
think, bad behind it. They just live,
6:12
want to live as a woman and
6:14
be a woman of that. No. Yeah,
6:17
I think it's interesting also because with
6:19
Sam, in Sam's case, for
6:21
her, it was something that very
6:23
slowly evolved in her life.
6:25
She didn't sort of really recognize
6:29
feelings until well into her
6:31
20s. Yeah. Which is, again,
6:33
not the way that it's
6:35
presented the whole thing. So
6:38
anyway, I think it's always
6:40
worth listening to other people's opinions.
6:43
Yeah. Unless they're Donald
6:45
Trump, don't listen to any of them.
6:47
It's rubbish. I'm
6:49
happy to be absolutely clear on
6:51
that point. Yeah, I'm an absolutist
6:53
when it comes to Trump. Okay,
6:55
and that's the good thing about
6:58
this podcast is that we we
7:00
have people like Sarah Monk, but
7:02
we also have people like Trump.
7:04
We have Trump himself. Yeah, we
7:06
had him on. Yeah, and he
7:08
was very reasonable, very interesting, quite
7:10
witty, I thought. So
7:13
we've also, because it
7:15
was Easter and it all got a bit mad
7:17
and you run well, but
7:20
we've decided to revisit and
7:22
look back through episodes. And it's
7:24
funny when we do that
7:26
because we're coming up to the
7:28
500, no, what is it,
7:30
500th episode later? And it's our
7:32
fifth year anniversary. So
7:34
we look back and there's
7:36
just a lot, a
7:38
lot of episodes. And you
7:40
really forget some of them. I'd go back
7:42
and I look and I was suddenly looking, I
7:45
thought, oh, Mark Thomas,
7:47
he was very interesting, but we did
7:49
that. During lockdown, didn't we? Yeah,
7:51
think so. I think
7:53
it was like the end
7:55
of 2020. It was
7:57
recorded. And then it
8:00
went out at the beginning of 2021. Right.
8:03
So it was that leading up to
8:05
that Christmas when everything was... Yeah. Yeah. When
8:08
you couldn't... Suddenly you weren't sure if you could go
8:11
out and then you... could go out a bit, and
8:13
then you weren't allowed to go out at all. None
8:15
of us were allowed to gather for Christmas, which
8:17
is a real pain. But not that
8:19
we talk about that a lot, but we do
8:21
talk a bit about lockdown. But
8:23
he's just... He's an
8:25
extraordinary man, isn't he, Mark
8:27
Thomas? He just
8:29
talks at his incredibly
8:32
entertaining in everything he
8:34
says. They're
8:36
sort of stories in it. They
8:38
suddenly pop up. As he's
8:40
talking, he just talks about going out, going
8:42
for walks, I think as part of the
8:44
lockdown in the evening, you could go out
8:46
for a walk. And
8:48
him, except
8:50
my microphone's going fish, fish. Are
8:53
you going to fish, fish it off? I'll
8:55
fish, fish it off, I'll give it a whack. Good. I'm
8:59
technically skillful as that. But
9:01
he talks about going for a
9:03
walk and the two types of
9:06
holly trees, that they're a
9:08
female and male. And he calls the female
9:10
ones, the ones with the berries, Molly.
9:13
And the male ones,
9:15
Buddy. Yeah. Buddy and
9:17
Molly. And he goes along spotting them. I
9:20
don't know why would you bring that up
9:22
on a podcast, but it's really entertaining. He
9:24
does it again and again and again. He
9:26
just suddenly goes off of these fantastic tangents,
9:28
which in a way is what he does
9:30
in his stand up. Anyway,
9:32
I think it's we found about half an
9:35
hour of material that we've taken out. I
9:37
don't really know what. It must
9:39
have I think it's because
9:41
we were new to it, John, and
9:43
we didn't know how long the podcast should
9:45
be. And we thought, well, my God,
9:47
this is an hour and a half of
9:49
him just talking. Is that
9:51
too much? Yeah,
9:53
I just... We're going through it. I
9:55
just thought... I wasn't Yeah, I mean,
9:57
I went... It says unedited, and it is
10:00
unedited. There were some pauses taken out
10:02
and bits because, you know... He's a
10:04
couple of times sat there thinking for 30
10:06
seconds and you don't want no one
10:08
wants to listen to that. But also like
10:10
when he left the room a couple
10:12
of times that lasted longer. So they
10:14
said it's like that. Yeah. But
10:16
so it's just been tidied up really
10:18
rather than the conversation. But I just
10:20
went through it and went, this is
10:23
all fine. I don't know what would
10:25
have taken out. Yeah. I
10:27
don't know. I don't even know what we took
10:29
out. I don't
10:31
know. It's an interesting thing to
10:33
explore. There are other episodes
10:35
like that. I wonder how much
10:37
we took out of John
10:39
Ronson. And I don't remember
10:41
at the time, but, you know,
10:43
he was another person who can just
10:45
talk. Yeah, I don't know. I
10:47
don't think there's much with him. No,
10:50
I think maybe a little better. bit later.
10:53
Yeah, he was. And I
10:55
think, yeah, I don't know. Don't
10:58
know. Anyway, Mark
11:00
Thomas and Sam Nicarisi. Two
11:02
really interesting guests, I thought. So
11:05
what we're going to do for
11:07
the anniversary, John? We
11:10
shall see. We shall see. We
11:12
shall see. We haven't thought of anything yet, have we?
11:14
And it's only in a few days' time. I
11:16
will think of something. We'll think
11:19
of something. Would
11:21
you email? I can't think of anything. Do
11:24
you want some emails? I'd love some
11:26
emails because you need to go and have
11:28
a lie down, don't you? Yeah.
11:32
Yeah. Right. This
11:34
is from Adam Henley. Guys,
11:38
I'm now just a week
11:40
away from running the London
11:42
Marathon for Alchemist Research and
11:44
Slimming World. Yes. The past
11:46
17 weeks, I've had the pleasure of listening
11:48
to a number of older episodes to distract
11:50
me on my long runs. I'm
11:52
now less than 30 episodes
11:54
away from being fully caught up.
11:57
Wow. That's a lot. They
11:59
recently reached my fundraising target of
12:02
£2 ,000, which takes the pressure
12:04
off, as well as meaning that
12:06
I can enjoy the day more. There
12:09
we go. It's a brilliant
12:11
thing. £2 ,000 is a lot
12:13
of sponsorship. It's
12:15
fabulous, I think. Yeah, he's
12:17
gone over it. But it's still available for more.
12:19
I mean, there are links, aren't there? We could
12:21
put a link with this, John. Yeah, I will. He's
12:24
added the link, so I
12:26
will. And he's now on
12:28
2287. Brilliant. Well
12:31
done. Brilliant. And good luck for the
12:33
run. Yeah, it's a long
12:35
way. Don't hit the wall. Take your
12:37
time. My son is
12:40
running one as well with
12:42
their school. It's not
12:44
the full 25 miles.
12:48
But I think they're doing two and a half K. But
12:51
they go a little bit of it and
12:53
they run down the mouth at the finish, you
12:55
know, saying... Really? Yeah. Oh,
12:57
that's brilliant. He's
12:59
doing it this lovely. Oh,
13:02
how exciting. Yeah. When
13:04
might go and watch, is that? All right.
13:07
I've just completely forgotten about
13:09
it. Until then, could you...
13:12
I'd like to go and
13:14
see that. I think that's
13:16
a fantastic thing. Yeah. That's
13:19
what they do it. Because the
13:21
mall's closed off that day, is it?
13:23
Yeah, I think it's a marathon
13:25
on a Sunday. It is on Sunday,
13:27
yeah. And then on the Saturday when it's all like, they
13:29
do have a little bits, including this
13:31
for a kid's one. Well,
13:34
the mall is often closed off.
13:36
You often see tourists wandering down
13:38
the middle towards and taking their
13:40
photographs, which is a good
13:43
idea, I think. because you also see
13:45
tourists standing in the middle of
13:47
the road, having to photograph taken with
13:49
bucking in pallets behind them, with
13:51
cars coming towards them at great speed.
13:54
So, yeah. Yes.
13:56
I finished. I finished talking. Good.
13:59
Well, I was just teeing up the next email. It's
14:02
just from Cornish
14:04
Daringfewins. Lovely. He
14:06
says, dear my time capsule
14:08
podcaster. The man who keeps chat
14:10
GTP going. What is it?
14:12
Man who keeps AI in in
14:14
business. Yeah. Yeah He
14:17
says that's on
14:19
the Avenue 5th
14:21
Avenue the photographers
14:23
will snap us
14:25
and you'll find
14:27
that you're in
14:29
the Guadal roto
14:31
grab you That's
14:33
French John And
14:35
what is that?
14:37
That's from Easter
14:39
bonnet In Easter
14:41
Parade, John. Yes.
14:44
I think in the film sung
14:46
by Judy Garland, but also
14:49
possibly Fred Astaire. Is he in
14:51
that film? Well,
14:53
he says, I've just finished watching
14:55
Easter Parade for the umpteenth
14:57
time. What great dancers
14:59
Garland and of course Astaire
15:01
were. Yeah. Yeah,
15:03
so I'm right. Yes. Fantastic.
15:07
Fantastic. Do they do... I
15:09
can't think of whilst
15:11
they were doing this and
15:13
they must do We're
15:16
a couple of swells We
15:18
stop at the best
15:20
hotels But we prefer the
15:22
country far away from
15:24
the city Smells... Any song
15:27
that goes... It's a
15:29
brilliant one, I think And
15:31
they also sing in
15:33
that song I
15:35
love a piano, an old piano,
15:38
I love to hear somebody play
15:40
upon a piano, the old
15:42
piano. It's just got a brilliant
15:44
rhyme in it. I
15:48
can't remember what it is. I'd
15:50
have to sing right through it.
15:56
It's a fine way
15:58
to play a
16:00
Steinway. But
16:03
there's Pat Arouski comes to play. I
16:05
can't remember. It's an amazing rhyme with
16:07
a Russian name in it at one
16:09
point. I
16:15
don't know if that's
16:17
from that film or
16:19
whether they did another
16:21
film together. Let me
16:23
know if you know.
16:26
I'm not in the world of Google. I
16:28
can't look it up. I won't look
16:30
it up. I just go from
16:32
my memory. Well, he
16:34
has a question, which is, which
16:36
for my time capsule guests would
16:38
make your perfect dancing partners and
16:41
who would be the best left
16:43
as a warflower? Also, which dance
16:45
would you perform with which guest?
16:50
Well, none of
16:52
us would be very good at
16:54
dancing, I don't think. None
16:56
of us? None of us.
16:58
Me or the guests. What
17:01
about our dance, the guests? I
17:03
mean, the guests, well, I'd say the
17:05
guests who I would like to dance
17:07
with, who hopefully would give me the
17:09
time to try and be almost as
17:11
good as them, would
17:14
be the astonishing
17:16
Bonnie Langford. Yeah.
17:19
Who still, she must
17:21
be 60. And
17:23
even older, I
17:25
think, probably. And
17:28
last week, She
17:30
flew to New York
17:32
and performed from
17:34
Sweeney Todd. Yes, Sweeney
17:36
Todd. She played
17:38
the female role in
17:40
it, whatever the
17:42
character is, who makes the pies. She
17:45
performed that on Broadway as
17:47
an understudy, because they ran out
17:49
of understudies to do it.
17:51
And the person who was playing
17:53
it, it's a famous American
17:55
person, became ill. And they
17:58
rang Bonnie and said, could you come
18:00
over and cover for her? And she
18:02
went, yeah, sure. So she
18:04
just flew over and did it. Wow. I
18:07
know. I know. I
18:09
think it was in the Sondheim
18:11
shows. I don't think it was
18:13
the entire performance, but she still
18:15
did this big section from it.
18:17
And she's an absolutely amazing Bonnie
18:20
Langford. She can do anything.
18:22
And she's a brilliant dancer. Well,
18:26
she won the Masked
18:28
Dancer. Oh, did she?
18:30
Yes. Well, that doesn't surprise
18:32
me all. I think it only lasted
18:34
one series because they realised that... They used
18:36
the best person. Well, unlike the singing,
18:38
you can't... How on earth are you going
18:40
to guess who... Who's doing the dancing?
18:42
This is really bad. And they say, is
18:44
that Mike Fenton Stevens? Yeah, just people
18:46
in the mask. How are you ever going
18:49
to guess who they are? You can't.
18:51
She can't, though. Anyway, so she won that.
18:53
And they all went, I can't believe
18:55
it, you're so old. But
18:59
what about doing some
19:01
sort of foxtrot with Anton
19:03
Dubeck? Yeah, that'd
19:06
be nice. I'd like to do
19:08
a soft shoe shuffle, you
19:10
know, I'd like to do
19:12
one of those sort of
19:14
songs. Just
19:21
a little, little bits of tap in
19:23
it. Enough that I could learn
19:25
it. You know, if you gave me two
19:28
or three weeks of rehearsals with Antoine du
19:30
Bec, where, you know, although
19:32
we did talk about on the podcast
19:34
doing that, him doing the routine that Fred
19:36
Astaire does with the golf balls. I
19:38
wonder if he ever did that idea. He'd
19:41
be absolutely great at it. Perhaps
19:44
he can't tap. Perhaps he can't tap. He's
19:46
a ballroom dancer. Imagine.
19:49
No. Imagine if I could tap
19:51
dance better than Anton Dubic. Yep,
19:53
you can't. Yeah, I would like
19:55
to dance with Caroline Quentin. She
19:58
was on Strictly, so she knows everything. She
20:00
was on Strictly, so she knows lots of Strictly
20:02
people, haven't we? We're including one of the
20:04
professional dancers from Strictly, Robin Windsor, who
20:06
is, unfortunately, no longer with us. No,
20:08
sweet, sweet man. Sweet man,
20:11
great dancer. Yeah,
20:13
fantastic dancer. They're all
20:15
amazing, really. Yeah, I
20:18
think that would be... would just about cover
20:20
it. Anybody here you wouldn't want to dance
20:22
with? Yep. Clive
20:25
Mantle. Yeah. From
20:27
our guests, yeah. Clive Mantle.
20:29
Just too tall. Too tall. It
20:32
just wouldn't work. It would look silly
20:34
as a pairing. Yeah. OK.
20:37
Thank you. Love the show,
20:39
Cornish Darren -Fuens. P .S. Happy
20:41
birthday to Fred's mum, dad
20:44
and his 362 otters. Yes.
20:48
Happy birthday. Right,
20:51
this is... Thanks, Darren. An email
20:53
from Kev Smith. Lovely. 1954,
20:55
my favourite year. Dear
20:57
My Time Catcher podcast at gmo.com,
20:59
that's... And now the purple
21:02
desk of twilight time steals across
21:04
the meadows of my heart,
21:06
high up in the sky, the
21:08
little stars climb, or
21:10
always reminding me that we're
21:12
apart, at
21:14
gmo.com. Another...
21:19
Is it that? It might be
21:21
the way you just sung that. I mean, I don't know
21:23
this, but I looked it up and the way you
21:26
did that... Yeah, that's what it is. It's a neck and
21:28
a cold. Yeah. Yeah. It's
21:30
that one. What's the
21:32
title of the song? Stardust.
21:36
Stardust. Yeah. Lovely
21:41
song. Amazing song. Do you know,
21:43
actually, it's only Stardust.
21:45
It's only the introduction to
21:47
another song. Oh. It
21:51
goes... And
22:11
I am once again
22:13
with you. Beautiful
22:15
song. Well, thank
22:17
you. That's all right.
22:19
He goes on to say, I watched
22:21
my favorite year. I
22:23
really enjoyed it. It's really good,
22:25
isn't it? I told you. Well
22:28
done, Kev. I'm glad one
22:30
person listens to me. And
22:32
thank you very much for
22:34
Natty's birthday present. He sent
22:36
him a shirt from Irish.
22:39
What's it called? Shinty, is it?
22:42
I don't know. Oh, don't. And now it sounds like a
22:44
fool. John, you're making me sound
22:47
idiotic. I haven't even seen it. I don't even know
22:49
what you're on about. Have you not seen it?
22:51
No. Well, perhaps
22:53
I'll send you a photograph of
22:55
it. OK. It's
22:57
lovely. I'm very pleased with it.
23:00
He says about my favorite year.
23:02
I really enjoyed it. A delightful
23:04
comedy which brought tears of laughter
23:06
and sadness. O'Toole was
23:08
amazing. The rest room scene
23:11
with Selena Diamond was pure
23:13
genius. Also, Thorke Mark,
23:15
Mark Lin Baker was wonderful
23:17
as the young comedy writer
23:19
tasked with the thankless task
23:21
of trying to keep him
23:23
sober. Wasn't he just? I
23:26
mean, it's full of
23:28
the most fantastic performances. His
23:31
parents in it are just
23:33
this fantastic Jewish family that... They
23:35
invited me in and they
23:37
start calling him by his first
23:39
name. Ma, ma, don't do,
23:41
ma. Call him
23:43
Mr. Swan. Hey, Alan,
23:45
Alan, sit down, have
23:47
some food. It's just,
23:49
oh, it's God, it's an amazing film. I
23:52
just want to spend
23:54
that weekend with those people.
23:57
It's a character who doesn't talk all the
24:00
way through. Just there's one thing right at
24:02
the end, one of the writers, all he
24:04
ever does. is he sits there with a
24:06
notepad like that and then he leans over
24:08
and he whispers in the person's ear and
24:10
the person then laughs and tells the joke. Is
24:13
he a bear? Is that where
24:15
Sooty comes from? Probably
24:17
from Sweep, yeah. Sooty
24:20
and Sweep. Although the other man doesn't
24:22
squeak. Okay. Okay.
24:24
He says, my question is,
24:26
Mike has appeared on
24:28
TV, movies and on stage,
24:30
which actors, entertainians, entertainians? Sorry.
24:35
I say that again. Which actors,
24:37
entertainians, comedians or musicianians would
24:39
you love to have worked
24:41
with that never got the
24:43
opportunity, either because they were
24:45
before your time or because
24:47
it just never happened? Oh,
24:50
it's endless, isn't it? It's
24:52
endless. I sometimes forget the people
24:54
I have worked with, who I then people
24:56
mentioned, I go, yeah, I work with them. And
24:59
then you go, wow, that's pretty
25:01
amazing. Jimmy
25:03
Tarbuck, I did a radio play
25:06
with Jimmy Tarbuck. And he'd never
25:08
done a radio play before. And
25:10
he turned up and he was
25:12
very nervous. And he was
25:14
very sort of apologetic. I'm so
25:16
sorry, lads. Sorry. Sorry, everyone. I'm rubbish
25:18
at this. I'm terrible. And
25:20
he wasn't. He was really, really good. And
25:22
he'd done such a lot of work to
25:25
prepare for it and everything. He thought, so well,
25:27
that's why he's had such a successful career
25:29
for all those years. I
25:31
had once auditioned the first
25:34
time I auditioned for pantomime, and
25:36
I didn't audition again for
25:38
another 20 years, really. So I
25:40
was in my early 20s,
25:42
and I auditioned for pantomime at
25:44
the Churchill Theatre, Bromley, and
25:47
it would have been with Ronnie Corbett. So
25:50
I would have been playing the
25:52
young comic part, the sort of
25:54
run -around, fall -over, trip -up sort
25:56
of comedy part, and he would
25:58
have been playing Dame. And
26:02
he auditioned me. We
26:04
had a fantastic time. We laughed a
26:07
lot. I made him laugh a lot. And
26:09
he was so delightful. And
26:12
then the producers decided I didn't have
26:14
enough experience. So I
26:16
didn't get it. So
26:19
that would have been absolutely
26:21
fabulous, I think. Because everybody
26:23
says that he was a joy to
26:25
work with. So, apart
26:27
from all these enormous,
26:29
great, fantastic stars that
26:31
anybody would want to
26:33
work with, I
26:35
have worked with some extraordinary people over
26:37
the years, particularly when I
26:39
was young, usually when you don't
26:42
really recognise the fact that you're
26:44
working with someone who has done
26:46
amazing things. Rather
26:48
like all those young people who worked with
26:50
me in Wicked, John, who had no idea
26:52
that I was at all talented. They
26:54
all discover one day when they
26:57
look back. But there
26:59
we are. Perhaps because I'm not.
27:02
Anyway, that's the answer to that, Kev.
27:05
I know. Now when they meet
27:07
up, they're like, you did, you
27:09
know. But he sang the chicken
27:11
song. And they'll say,
27:13
what's that? I can't believe it. Why didn't
27:15
they sing it for us? Why
27:17
didn't they tell us? If only we'd known.
27:19
That did, I mean, right, I think in
27:22
the very last week of doing it, even
27:24
though you have a, your CV
27:26
basically in the program, because they
27:28
say, you know, all the things
27:30
you've done. So it had
27:32
this, I was always amazed
27:34
that nobody had read it because
27:36
one of the ensemble suddenly
27:39
went to me, I was,
27:41
I was watching my favourite,
27:43
my absolute favourite person yesterday. Lee
27:45
Evans, he did a series for the BBC. He
27:48
said, you were in it. I
27:50
mean, yeah, I know. Yeah,
27:53
I know it was. Me
27:55
and Domidja Leely. And
27:57
he went, I know. I
27:59
had to look twice. And I thought, well, what
28:01
do you think I've been doing for the
28:03
last bloody 40 years? Honestly, there
28:06
you are. It was a shame
28:08
that in that programme it didn't
28:10
say... the host of successful podcasts,
28:13
this. Oh, that's true, yes. Because imagine all the
28:15
thousands of people that looked at that program and
28:17
looked at your little bit and they would have
28:19
gone, oh, I love a little bit of that. Well,
28:22
that's free advertising. Yeah, that may
28:24
be my fault. Yeah. Yeah,
28:26
probably is. Don't
28:28
put that in ashamed. I'm ashamed
28:30
of it. No, just, you
28:32
know, I think
28:34
I printed it up from something I
28:36
had on a computer and that'll
28:38
do. And then they went, do you
28:41
want to edit it? And I went, oh, God, there's
28:43
loads of things I haven't put in here. Have
28:46
I got more room? And I did. But the
28:48
one thing I didn't do was the thing that I
28:50
do most of the time, which is this. And
28:53
talking of doing this, I've
28:55
got to go to the dump. I
28:58
don't think we need to know about that. No,
29:00
no, no. I've got to take the
29:02
car to the dump and get rid of
29:04
a hedge. that I dug
29:06
out yesterday. I dug out
29:08
an entire hedge because it's made
29:11
of box. And you
29:13
can't really keep box alive anymore in
29:15
this country, it seems to me. Certainly
29:17
not down in Kent. There's
29:19
so many box... Well, they
29:21
could box moths. And
29:24
they just... There's box. There's
29:26
box. Right. I didn't
29:28
want to spray it and
29:30
kill all the caterpillars, it seemed
29:32
unfair. So we dug it
29:34
out and then I put all
29:37
the stuff into, put stuff
29:39
into sort of a black bin,
29:41
but there's loads left. And
29:43
then my wife said, have you
29:46
seen the black bin? And I said,
29:48
no. And we went out and
29:50
looked and it was absolutely covered in
29:52
little caterpillars or crawling down the
29:54
side. I tried to find another box
29:56
hedge. Before
29:58
you go for a dump, let
30:01
me just let me just
30:03
finish off this email and
30:05
then the next bit. Okay.
30:07
Yes, I think chat gtp
30:09
image generator is being used
30:11
by some of the groovy
30:13
gang to create those yucky
30:15
doll images You both know
30:17
who you are And I
30:20
know where you live. If
30:22
another film is ever made in the
30:24
franchise of The Conjuring, the casting director
30:26
and producers will have no problem finding
30:28
the horrible, evil looking dolls. My
30:30
doll could have been used in the Chucky
30:32
movies. Have a great
30:34
weekend, Kev. Thanks, Kev. There's
30:37
a second demo from Kev. Oh.
30:39
Which I will answer.
30:41
OK. Dear Mr. John
30:43
Fenton Stevens and dear Mr.
30:46
Mike Fenton Stevens, full names
30:48
being given. I
30:50
was wondering, why did Sam Nicaresti's
30:52
recording not have an episode
30:54
number with it? Could I have
30:56
a formal written reply? Yes,
30:58
I was wondering then. Or just tell me
31:00
to fuck off. Anyway, have a
31:02
great week, great week, Kev. Well,
31:04
this is not a formal written reply.
31:06
This is even better. This is
31:08
a personal out loud reply. And
31:12
the reason, there is
31:14
a very specific reason why
31:16
there wasn't a number for that.
31:19
episode. And it's that
31:21
I forgot to do it. Right.
31:23
And then when you sent the
31:25
email, I went, what? Oh, and I
31:28
checked it and said, oh, yeah,
31:30
it doesn't say ep 400 and whatever.
31:32
It just says, sound a carestic.
31:34
So I changed it and it should
31:36
be there now. Right,
31:38
that's good. Otherwise, we'd,
31:40
we'd reach episode 400
31:43
rather late. Yeah.
31:46
People would notice. And
31:48
we were on episode
31:50
485. 485 is
31:53
Mark Thomas. 15 to go to 500. Yeah.
31:56
Oh, my God. So, yeah, now I've
31:58
changed that. Thanks. Thanks, Kev. I just
32:00
don't know I was doing. Just forgot. OK.
32:03
That's always... If there's ever problems
32:05
like that you any problems the answer
32:07
is very very likely to be
32:09
just... I didn't do it. Just forgot
32:11
to do it. I forgot. Yeah.
32:14
as professionals, we appear
32:17
We're just human. can
32:19
make mistakes It
32:21
is possible. sacked. John, you're
32:23
sacked. Right. I'm off to
32:25
the loo. I I mean the dump.
32:27
Okay. I'll see you soon everyone. Bye Bye
32:30
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