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Depot. Hi, my
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name is Kevin Milsom. I
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live in the west of England, close
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to the border with Wales, in the
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county of Gloucestershire. And
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back in 2018, I had an
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experience which kind of changed my
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life in many ways. I was
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very ill with sepsis. I didn't
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quite realise how ill I was. I'd
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never stayed in a hospital before. I'd
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always been ridiculously healthy. I was 55
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years of age and suddenly I was
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in hospital with sepsis. which I'd had
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for about a week. It had
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been undiagnosed. And by the time
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they got me to hospital, I was in a
1:05
very poor state of health. I had immediate surgery. My
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right foot was full of
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sepsis to the point where it
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had gone deep into my
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bones. I had immediate surgery and
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they were able to remove part of
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my foot and to get rid
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of some of the sepsis. But the
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next day it was decided that
1:25
I would need my right leg amputated
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because It wasn't going to happen. And
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if it went above my knee, it was
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game over. So I
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came to accept the fact that
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I was going to have one leg or die. Not
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really an option, is
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it really, I suppose? And on
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the morning before the operation to
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remove my leg, they
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wake you up every hour in hospital. And
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I didn't realize that they do that because
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they want to make sure that you're not
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dead. So again, I
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didn't realize how ill I was. and I
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woke up about five o 'clock in the morning or I was woken
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up by five o 'clock in the morning. I couldn't
2:01
go back to sleep and I didn't
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feel very well. I had heart issues on
2:05
the operating table where my heart had
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stopped and they had to bring me back.
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I was accepting of the fact that
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I was going to lose my leg, I
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had no problem at all. I didn't
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feel very well and I went to eventually
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reach for the button by the side
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of the bed to alert a nurse to
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say look I'm not very well and
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the next thing I'm I must have fallen
2:26
back on the bed because I'm flying
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down a tunnel feet first. I've got both
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feet intact. I'm flying down
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a tunnel in like walk three. I'm
2:35
aware of a light at the
2:37
end of the tunnel. I'm aware that
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the inside is lit as well.
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And I emerge from the tunnel after
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I guess a few seconds. I
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emerge into this white room. This beautiful,
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powerful white room. A white
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like I've never experienced before in
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my life. It felt like the room
2:54
was alive. Everything glowed, white, the
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floor, the ceiling, the walls. And
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in front of me were some people. I
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recognized my mother, who had died, this
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and that, nine years before. And
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my stepfather, who
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had died 13
3:09
years previously. And
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my mother came running towards me, which was
3:14
very old, because when my mother died, she
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was immobile, she was in a very poor
3:18
state of health, couldn't walk, was never going
3:20
to walk again, had dementia. She
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came banding towards me like a teenager. as
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I said she'd been gone for nine years and
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she started talking to me and telling me
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about heaven and I guess I was I was
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still in a state of shock I hadn't
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really taken it in I was kind of oh
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that's nice well this is nice I wasn't
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aware that I had died I wasn't aware that
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this was a spiritual place I saw my
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mother and I kind of excelled there's mum and
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didn't really question it and she was telling
3:45
me about heaven and saw the spirit world or
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whatever you want to call it it's just
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a name And she was telling me how wonderful
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it was and the animals and the plants
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and I was going to love it there. And
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as I say, I was still in a
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state of shock, Phil, because I
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couldn't take it in. It was
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too much. At the same time, I
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was also heightened mentally. I felt
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like I was data for Star Trek.
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I could absorb the information very, very
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quickly. I was taking in lots of
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stimuli, looking over here, looking over
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there, looking at her, trying to work out
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what she was saying, aware of my stepfather.
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who was standing dutifully in the background, letting
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his wife talk. That's
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for usual. And I began
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to kind of have an internal dialogue
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while my mother was talking. I
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began to kind of realise, I guess,
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where I was. And I began to
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get cross with myself, I
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guess. And so it felt like I was
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having a kind of life review. I
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was having an internal dialogue with myself. I
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was analysing my life, okay, I
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got married, okay, I had kids,
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okay, I had jobs, work. career.
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I'd home educated the kids 12 years.
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I'd done this, I'd done that. And
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then I got to the have
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I done enough, especially creatively, because I
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do a lot of writing. I'm
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a musician. I never done anything
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with it. I'd always been fearful of,
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I'm not sure what, and I'd backed away. I'd
5:08
had a chance to become a professional
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musician. I'd walked away from that.
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I'd had a chance to get several
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books published. I'd walked away from those
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opportunities. And it began to really
5:18
hit home with me. Had I done enough with
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my life? I was 55. Had
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I done enough? I guess
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the short answer was no. I
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hadn't. And it really began to
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weigh on my mind. My mother was still talking.
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Eventually she realized I wasn't really listening to
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what she was saying. Probably again, as usual. And
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she said, oh, you're not listening to me again. I'm
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trying to tell you, you know, about this and that and
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you're miles away. Which I was. And
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she said, well, if you don't listen to me, listen to
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him. She kind of indicated
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to her right. And there
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was a very faint door in the
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wall. Again, white,
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glowing white. And it
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opened and this figure came through. Now
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I'm not a religious person in
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any such imagination. I studied
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at university. I have a
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fascination for people who have faith in why
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people believe in things. I
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studied psychology, parapsychology, and sociology.
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I completely understand why
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people Choose to have a
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faith structure, but I don't
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I kind of take bits from
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all over the place I've
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said my my part at that
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point have been spiritual rather
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than religious but But had I
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been a stereotypical Christian I
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guess I would have said that
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this gentleman who came through
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looked remarkably like Jesus Christ He
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had the beard he had
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the white this white shivering robe
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his eyes were incredible But
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most of all, it was his
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energy. And his energy,
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I really, and I say, I work
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as a writer, I can't
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get close to it. Just over
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six years down the line, I can't
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get close to describing that in vocabulary.
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The energy and the power of this individual who
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came through that door. And he
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walked up to me and his eyes were, and
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this is another odd thing. My mother had been
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talking to people at her mouth. A
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lot. And this
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gentleman didn't. He spoke to me
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with his mind. I could
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hear his voice within my head. And he said
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to me, why are you here? And
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I literally said back to him, that's a very good
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question. I've got no ideal. I've
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got no ideal. I'm in hospital
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one minute. I don't feel very well. Now I'm
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here. And I'm taking all this in. And
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again, it's slowly dawning on me. Hang
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on a minute. This isn't
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a usual Friday. Something's
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off here. And I kind
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of realized where I was. I think it's
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set in. And he could sense
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my anger at myself, not at
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anybody else. And he was the
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epitome of patience, compassion,
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empathy, kindness, love,
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light, whatever you want, whatever words,
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and they won't be adequate. He
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was just a phenomenal force of
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nature, the spirit, spirituality.
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He said again, why are you here? I said, I don't know. He
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said, well, what do you want to do? I
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said, I don't know. My mother had said,
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you know, through that door, you'll find everything. And
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I knew if I went through that, I knew the
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door was a barrier. I knew if I went
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through the door, I wasn't coming back. I
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realised that very strongly for
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some reason. And
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I was tempted because my mother
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had sold it to me. She'd sold
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the idea of heaven to me
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very, very well. And I was having
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this internal dialogue with this gentleman
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and he just knocked the ball, kept
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knocking the ball back into my court. What do you
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want to do, Kevin? You're
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here now, this is your choice, what do you want
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to do? You can go back, you
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can come, you can stay, you're well here, all this.
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I knew what was going on, I knew
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the rules. I had, again,
8:48
a very strong internal dialogue with myself, as
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tempted as I was to go and see
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the wonderful animals and the singing flowers and all
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this kind of stuff that my mother had
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described. I knew I had to
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go back, I knew I had a lot
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more to do, I knew I had
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things to accomplish that I hadn't done in
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my 55 years of physical life. mortal
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life and I said to the gentleman I
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think I think I need to go
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home just nodding and said are you sure
9:13
you made sure that I was positive
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about my choice and decision and I said
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yeah I need to go back my
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next thing I woke up in the bed
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I woke up in my hospital bed
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about 15 minutes I think it passed but
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it felt different my leg was a
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mess I knew that, but
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I also felt something in a
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room. Now, I've worked within spiritual
9:34
healing at that point. I mean,
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in 1985, I started doing spiritual
9:38
healing and training to be spiritual
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healing. I've done various aspects of
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that, and still do, to this
9:44
day. So I was aware of the power
9:46
of spiritual healing, but around me in the bed, there was
9:48
like a donut. was like I
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was encased in this little large donut.
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I could feel it, and something
9:55
felt different. The voice in my head
9:57
said, I think gonna be okay. I think
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it's gonna be alright. And I believed
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it, I knew. I didn't know at the time,
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because I was a bit out of it with
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the sepsis, so I'd been not well up very
10:07
well, obviously. My wife had gone on to social
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media and on to Facebook. And
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at the time I was working as a
10:13
distance healer, we would send healing out around the
10:16
world. And she'd gone to them and said,
10:18
could you send healing out for Kevin? So there
10:20
were about a thousand of those healers all around
10:22
the world, they were sending me. My
10:25
friends on Facebook, All together there were
10:27
probably 1 ,500 to 2 ,000 people praying for
10:29
me at that time. People of all Christians,
10:33
agnostics, atheists, spiritualists,
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Wiccans, witches, they were
10:38
just sending me their love and their light and their
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energy. And I could feel it. And
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I knew, as I said, I knew everything was going
10:45
to be okay. Nine o 'clock came, my surgeon came
10:47
in, who was very blunt, as
10:49
was I, especially with his senses. And
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he said, Are you
10:55
okay? For your leg to be chopped off? I said, yeah. No
10:58
problem. Do it. And he
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said, well, you're first on the list because
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we need to. Because the day before,
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the black had gone up my leg and
11:06
was probably on my shin. And
11:08
obviously, as I said, if it goes
11:10
over the knee, then goodnight Vienna. And
11:13
a nurse came in who I'd not
11:15
seen before, a head nurse. And he said
11:17
to her, look at Kevin's injury, because
11:19
it was the worst injury to a foot
11:21
they'd ever had where the leg had
11:23
not immediately had to be amputated. It was
11:25
a mess. It was absolutely ripped to
11:27
pieces. And she did all the
11:29
bandages off and everything else. And
11:31
she looked at it, and she looked at it
11:33
very strangely. I was used to that because people looked
11:35
at it and go, oh, in fact, they would
11:37
send the student nurses around to look at it because
11:40
this kind of injury, you never saw, you saw
11:42
it in textbooks, you never saw it in real life.
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It was so rare where the leg, as I
11:46
said, had not been immediately had
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to be amputated and she said oh
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my god this is amazing I thought
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okay that's not the reaction that I
11:54
was expecting she called the doctor over
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and he said oh I seen it
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I was wearing this surgery and she
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insisted and he came over begrudgingly and
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he looked at it and he swore
12:05
and I thought well that can't be
12:07
good that can't be good So
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I asked them to let me in on it,
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really, because, you know, this is my blinking foot. My,
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you know, I'd like to blink and we'll blink
12:15
and know what's blinking going on. Please, if you don't
12:18
mind. Because looking at your faces, I'm now worried.
12:20
What's down there? A hoof? And
12:23
some kind of alien
12:25
probe. What's going on
12:27
here? And you said, well, look for
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yourself. Which I didn't
12:31
like doing, because I'd seen it a couple of times, and
12:33
it was like something out of a horror film. I
12:35
looked at it, and it was as pink as a
12:37
baby's backside. And he said, where's it
12:40
gone from yesterday? And I said, I don't know.
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I thought, well, I've got an idea, but
12:44
I'm not going to tell you because you're not
12:46
going to understand. And
12:48
I remember the words, it's going to be
12:50
OK. And all traces of sepsis have gone
12:52
from my leg and my foot. And
12:54
they couldn't understand why
12:56
or how. I spent over a
12:59
month in hospital recuperating. The only one who
13:01
kind of understood me was a hospital chaplain who
13:03
was also a trained medic and had seen
13:05
my notes and said, you shouldn't be here.
13:07
A, you shouldn't be here and B, you should
13:09
have one leg less than me. And
13:11
we talked about the healing power of God's
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divine love. And we talked about that for an
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hour and we prayed. And
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she said, I completely get it. I completely
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understand. And we talked about spiritual healing. And
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some of the nurses understood it as well. They'd seen
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it happen before. But it was
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a phenomenal experience for me. And one
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that, again, is very hard to put
13:31
into words. Even six years down the line, I
13:33
recall all of it. I know it wasn't a
13:35
dream. I don't remember my dreams.
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I remember this one, six years on,
13:39
every second of it. It's very clear in
13:41
my mind, very, very clear in my
13:43
mind. And for me, it's given me
13:45
the knowledge, I mean, I already believed in
13:47
life after death. I'd been studying it since
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I was a child growing up in haunted
13:51
houses. And I'd got into spiritualism in the
13:53
UK in the 1980s when I was in
13:56
my very early 20s. So I had that
13:58
belief structure and system there. And
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this just reinforced it. And
14:02
the compassion, the love, in that
14:04
room, no trace of judgement,
14:07
no trace of anything like, oh you've been a
14:09
bad boy, you understand in the corner, you
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know, you have to go over
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here and do that, you know,
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it was all about me, all
14:17
about my acceptance of where I
14:19
was, and my choice to go
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through that door, and cease to
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be, and its physical realm, or
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go back and make a difference, and since
14:28
coming back I've watched hard to make a difference,
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it's not been easy, I have to have
14:32
some further surgery next year,
14:34
the tiny part of the foot hasn't
14:36
healed as we would like and
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it keeps getting affected so I have
14:40
to go and have a little
14:42
bit of further amputation done which I'm
14:44
not looking forward to but I'm
14:46
still here, I'm alive, I function very
14:48
very well and I've tried to
14:50
make a difference, I've tried to become
14:52
more interactive with society, with the
14:54
community, I've set up workshops in meditation,
14:57
healing, I do a lot of readings
14:59
for people which I did before but I'd tailed
15:01
away from it. I try to be more of
15:03
service, and every day is a gift, every day
15:05
is a blessing, and I think that's the major
15:07
lesson that's come through. Every day is a complete
15:09
blessing. Every day should
15:11
be taken seriously, not too seriously.
15:14
Always make room for singing and dancing, but at
15:17
the same time, every day is precious. And
15:19
it's not to be wasted, and even if you
15:21
do one thing a day, that's what I took from
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it, to make the most of my life. And
15:25
in trying to help other people, in
15:28
as many ways as I can
15:30
find, possible to do that,
15:32
and that comes from that experience,
15:34
from that near -death experience. I watched
15:36
over the 11th 2018, which was
15:38
ironically my mother's birthday. So,
15:41
yeah, it's
15:43
a really good experience and I love
15:45
sharing it with people because I really
15:47
hope that it gives, well, hope that
15:49
any life goes on. B, we
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will see our love once again. And everything
15:53
is love. Everything is compassion and empathy.
15:55
There is no judgment. There is no, you
15:57
know, it's just love. It's just pure
15:59
love. And really love
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that, and that's what taken forward. And
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that's the message that I like to try share,
16:06
and thank you for the opportunity for sharing it
16:08
today. It's been a real life
16:10
changer 2018, but as I say,
16:12
every day is precious. Make the most
16:14
of every day. Thank you for
16:16
listening.
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