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Dude, I'm pretty pumped. I'm nervous,

1:34

but I'm pretty pumped. I've always

1:36

wanted asking just everything on my

1:39

mind. I know, it's going to

1:41

be hard. You're not going to

1:43

have that much time. I'm not.

1:46

I don't even know what's on

1:48

the rundown. I'll take care of

1:50

the rundown. You just freeball it.

1:52

LeBron, do you think I could

1:55

play in the NBA? You don't

1:57

want the answer to that. I

1:59

saw me try and dunk last

2:02

week. Yeah. All right, let's fucking

2:04

go. Welcome back to New

2:06

Heights, ladies and gentlemen, a

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wondering show produced by Wave

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Sports and Entertainment and brought

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Ooh. Big Ed Kelsey's gonna

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2:25

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2:29

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2:31

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2:33

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2:46

Heights show with one S. Jason. Jason.

2:48

We got a banger. We got a

2:50

banger. We got a guest. It's been

2:52

a long time coming. And with the

2:54

playoffs here, the stakes could not be

2:56

higher for him to come on the

2:59

show. He's the king himself. King James

3:01

is here. That's right. Northeast Ohio's finest.

3:03

Get ready for some fun. Yeah, he's

3:05

gonna help us recap the wild card

3:07

weekend. We'll talk a little Cleveland. Lots

3:10

and lots of other fun because I've

3:12

always wanted to talk to the king

3:14

about everything Cleveland and everything basketball, man.

3:16

So this is gonna be a fun

3:18

one, man. This is gonna be a

3:20

fun one. Yeah, before we get into

3:23

LeBron, we just wanted to take a

3:25

second and stop down. and say that

3:27

our thoughts with everybody in the L.A.

3:29

area, that we've all seen the footage

3:31

and at this point know people personally

3:33

who have been affected by these fires

3:35

and this tragedy. So our thoughts are

3:37

with you. There will be a link

3:39

in the description if you want to

3:41

support that's Red cross.org/NFL. I really don't

3:43

know what's going to happen in the

3:45

even just the coming days, let alone

3:47

the coming weeks and how this is

3:50

going to get rebuilt. So just let

3:52

you know, you know, we're thinking about

3:54

thinking about you know, you know, you know, Did you

3:56

did it feel special out there in Arizona at

3:58

the Rams game? You know I was walking through

4:00

the so normally we're out on the field

4:02

and we're not in the concourse area but

4:04

because of transition we couldn't have that

4:06

set on the field in Arizona and

4:09

when I was walking through the concourse

4:11

area I saw like the LA fire

4:13

department hat that the Rams were co-signing with

4:15

I'm like god damn man like man

4:17

I don't know it just like hit

4:19

me right in the moment oftentimes football

4:21

can be a distraction from some of

4:23

these things and I always enjoyed playing

4:25

when there was crazy things happening outside of

4:27

the outside of the game is a way

4:30

to kind of just not have to think

4:32

about it for a little bit. So I

4:34

don't know, hopefully the Rams went in on

4:36

Monday, you know, gave the fans and

4:39

some of the citizens some much needed

4:41

escape from the things that are happening.

4:43

But shout out to everyone that's

4:45

involved in helping prevent, rebuild, you

4:48

know, just the emergency responders that

4:50

are there helping out the people

4:52

that are in need. Yeah. It was

4:54

pretty powerful. seeing a lot of the

4:56

LA fans in that place. I really

4:59

thought Big Whit killed it in his

5:01

speech. That ain't the first speech

5:03

I've heard from him. He

5:05

always kills. He's always away

5:08

with words. And he's obviously

5:10

really personally connected to all

5:12

this stuff being out there in LA.

5:14

So yeah, let's get on to LeBron.

5:16

Let's pick up some spirits and

5:19

get this conversation going. Joining

5:21

us today, the Six Nine!

5:23

of 2003 NBA draft

5:26

2004, rookie of

5:28

the year, 20-time

5:30

NBA all-time leader,

5:33

four-time NBA champion,

5:36

three-time gold medalists,

5:38

and the NBA all-time

5:41

leader in career points.

5:43

That's right, 92%ers.

5:45

Please welcome Northeast

5:47

Ohio's finest, Mr.

5:49

LeBron! Gee! Let's

5:51

go! Yo, yo,

5:54

Jason, I might, yo, Jason,

5:56

I might be the greatest introduction

5:58

of all time. The air with

6:00

the powder, oh my goodness you guys

6:03

are fucking unbelievable. This dude is just

6:05

wearing the powder too. He just has

6:07

to own it. Who's going to clean

6:10

that shit up now? Kylie is not

6:12

going to be happy about this. Jason,

6:14

you've got to blow the powder away,

6:16

Jason. You've got to study the technique,

6:19

man. But wait too much in there.

6:21

All right, this guy looks like a

6:23

fucking ghost man. That shit's great dog.

6:26

You started doing the powder what year

6:28

was it your rookie year? No, I

6:30

don't remember if it was my rookie

6:32

year, Triath, man. I think it was

6:35

maybe Second year, maybe third year, but

6:37

uh, I used to just go up

6:39

to the to the counter man go

6:42

up there put a little powder because

6:44

it, you know, I like the resin

6:46

on my hands and make my hands

6:48

to make a little like a shirt.

6:51

Yeah. And then, you know, I started

6:53

doing a little bit more and they

6:55

started like doing that towards the scores

6:58

table. And I seen them kind of

7:00

like, you know, getting ready for me

7:02

to do it. And then I started

7:05

doing like this and I threw it

7:07

up a little bit one time. It

7:09

got a little bit more excited. I

7:11

was like, you know what? Fucking. I'm

7:14

just going to. Super wild card weekend,

7:16

the ground. You've been working with draft

7:18

kings. Yeah, yeah. You went five for

7:21

six. Look at this pit. That's a

7:23

trap. Oh, baby. So football. Yeah, the

7:25

charges to win, Baltimore win, Buffalo to

7:27

win, Eagles to win, commanders to win,

7:30

Rams to win. That's crazy. That's crazy.

7:32

You're right. I mean, we know you

7:34

play football back in the day at

7:37

St. Vincent St. Mary, man. Yeah, yeah,

7:39

yeah. Has it ever actually like crossed

7:41

your mind what you could possibly do

7:43

in the NFL? No, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.

7:46

Like, like, has it? Have you ever,

7:48

like, a serious thought? Like, man, what

7:50

if I just did one year? Yeah,

7:53

the only time I've, like, really taken

7:55

it, like, super, duper serious, I believe

7:57

it was, I think it was 2011.

8:00

when we had the NBA lockout.

8:02

And I didn't know when we

8:04

were gonna make the deal with

8:06

the owners and get our league

8:08

back going. So I actually thought

8:10

about it a little bit back

8:12

then. I was still young enough

8:14

to get out there with y'all,

8:16

but that's the only time I'm

8:18

actually seriously considered it. I've had

8:20

serious dreams about this shit all

8:23

the time. All the time. All

8:25

the time. And my dream never,

8:27

actually, the ball is never kicked

8:29

off. It's like me in a

8:32

warm-ups. It's me coming out running

8:34

out routes. And then right when

8:36

the game started, I was like,

8:38

fucking wake up or some shit.

8:40

I'm like, okay. Yeah, that lets

8:43

me know I'm not supposed to be

8:45

out there. There you go. Time out. Come

8:47

on. Come on out. The dreams. Yeah. Yeah.

8:49

We can see how you can get up

8:51

and be down before. Who do you think

8:54

your biggest comparison would have been in the

8:56

league? Everyone always likes to say Gronk or

8:58

maybe even Calvin Johnson. I was about say

9:00

Megatron, probably the closest. Yeah, probably like a

9:03

mix between, you know, Gronk or Randy Moss

9:05

a little bit, but he's a lot smaller

9:07

than me, but he's a lot smaller, but

9:09

like Megatron, we kind of have that same

9:12

like stature as far as build or whatever

9:14

case may be. Or whatever case may be.

9:16

Tony Gonzales with him and his size and

9:18

obviously he played basketball as well. I used

9:21

to love his celebration when he used

9:23

to duck on the goalposts too. I

9:25

was always, oh actually I saw you

9:27

doing two ways. I tried. I thought

9:29

I might have just smacked backboard on

9:32

that one. I don't know if

9:34

I got up there. Just smacked

9:36

the glass. I used to be

9:39

able to fly. No, the NFL

9:41

had a nerve to find you

9:43

for that shit. I'm like, come

9:45

on. Oh, man. Relax. Relax. Relax.

9:48

It was fine, well-worthy. Actually. It

9:50

was fine, well-worthy. Yeah, give it

9:52

up for Tony G. My dog.

9:54

Yeah. The only game you miss

9:57

in that parley was the Texans

9:59

Charger game. What I mean, we know you're a

10:01

big football fan. I guess what is, how do you

10:03

watch the games? Like, how do you,

10:05

how do you stay knowledgeable of all

10:07

this stuff? You're busy dude, man. I

10:09

try to watch as many, you know,

10:11

NFL games, you know, college games, you

10:14

know, high school games, and yeah, I'm

10:16

very knowledgeable about the game. I remember

10:18

playing it obviously, but, you know, just

10:20

watching you guys out there and seeing

10:22

the way you all play. It's not

10:24

just like, like, like, like, like, like,

10:26

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

10:28

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

10:30

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

10:32

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

10:35

like, The Charger's Texans game, I was

10:37

off on that, I felt like, you

10:39

know, the Texans, they hadn't played consistent

10:41

football all year, you know, and obviously

10:43

losing Stephan digs and losing Tank Dale,

10:45

you know, I just felt like, you

10:47

know, big pieces. And, you know, you

10:49

know, my boy, you know, my boy,

10:51

you know, CJ's been struggling a little

10:53

bit this year, you know, he had

10:56

the rookie year last year, you know,

10:58

Ohio State alum, but he was struggling

11:00

too losing those big guys and I

11:02

felt like the charges was coming in

11:04

on so much you know I feel

11:06

like they had it I feel like

11:08

they had an opportunity you know and

11:10

coaching those guys really well this year

11:12

but turnovers we all know the name

11:14

of the game and it's forced especially

11:17

in football man it's turnovers And that

11:19

defense for the Texans, they turned them

11:21

boys over multiple times. You know, that's

11:23

the game right there. Yeah. Yeah, the

11:25

defense bought out. Some tough ones for

11:27

Herbert too, man. Through some hands and

11:29

deflections. It's, it's, it's, it's, those are

11:31

just daggers, man. You know, the conventional

11:33

house statement, I gotta ask, man. Did

11:35

Tressel ever come and knock on the

11:37

door? No, absolutely. I wanted me to

11:40

come up there to be a two.

11:42

two-sport player, i.e. Travis Hunter. We saw

11:44

what Travis Hunter did this year, you

11:46

know, with Colorado, but definitely they knocked

11:48

on the door. It's like if you

11:50

come down to Ohio State, we want

11:52

you to play both sides. And I

11:54

would have definitely thought about that. My

11:56

best friend at the time, Sheehan Cotton,

11:58

went off to Ohio State four, he

12:01

played for a. say football so that'd

12:03

have been super dope I could have

12:05

like ruined with him. But football during

12:07

the during the fall, basketball during

12:09

the winter and spring so that'd

12:11

have been dope. Man, Buckeyes man,

12:13

that would have been crazy to

12:15

see you in a Buckeyes jersey.

12:18

Not have been dope. Maurice Claret

12:20

was coming from around that Northeast

12:22

Ohio area too. He was I

12:24

believe they had just won it.

12:26

Yep, yep, he was, you know,

12:29

it's crazy Ohio Mr. But he

12:31

went crazy man. He went to

12:33

Warren Harding. Yeah, he went insane

12:35

his senior year and then his

12:37

freshman year went on to Ohio

12:40

State and they was able to

12:42

beat that jargon out of the

12:44

Miami Hurricanes that year. You know

12:47

for the national championship. But uh,

12:49

Maurice Corrett was a beast man

12:51

beast. Was it? Absolutely. 2002, right?

12:54

This was 2000. This would have

12:56

been 2,000. 3,000. 3,000. Yeah. 34.

12:59

Yeah. Something that happened over the

13:01

weekend is, you know, we thought

13:03

we could relate it to you

13:06

because you're a big book guy.

13:08

You're a big book guy. A.J.

13:10

Brown was seen reading a book

13:12

on the sideline of the game.

13:14

Did you catch this? I did

13:17

catch that. I was watching the

13:19

game and I did catch that.

13:21

I can say I've watched the

13:23

NFL for 35 v plus years

13:26

of my life. That's the first

13:28

time. I've seen guys eat Skittles,

13:30

Marchion Lynch. I've seen guys with

13:32

the oxygen tanks. Obviously guys are

13:34

meditating. I've seen guys slam helmets. I've

13:37

seen a lot of shit. That was

13:39

the first time I've ever seen a

13:41

book been brought out on the bitch.

13:43

first time. You ever seen that in

13:45

the NBA? No, no, never. No, no,

13:47

no. Just something to ease the mind,

13:49

just go ahead and read a few

13:52

passages. And by the way, when AJ

13:54

Brown said the reason for why he

13:56

did it, you know what? It was

13:58

great. And then they showed. clip when

14:00

Saiquan had the touchdown run and he slid

14:02

and you see Devante and AJ like messing

14:04

around with him like man go score that

14:06

he's like no man no chill I was

14:08

like chemistry is still there so oh you

14:10

know the chemistry is still there they've been

14:12

playing good football that's all that matters you

14:14

know I think that's 10 in the role

14:17

for them they got it going so hey

14:19

if it's working for them let them keep

14:21

going man whatever whatever whatever works you know

14:23

I'm with you know I'm with you on

14:25

that no doubt. What about what about this

14:27

Bill's Bill's Bils Raven's Raven's game staying on

14:29

the topic of these playoff games. We got

14:31

Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, you had to tweet

14:33

during the game. Henry, King Henry. Yeah, man.

14:35

There's anybody that can call somebody a king.

14:37

I think. What do you like in this

14:39

game? I mean, it's a tough one, man.

14:41

Obviously, I think Buffalo, you know, has. I

14:43

don't want to say it's not surprising anymore,

14:45

but they lost a lot of pieces in

14:47

the off-season, you know, and a lot on

14:49

the office of Ian too, and then they

14:51

lost a lot in their secondary too, you

14:53

know, like a high left and poor left

14:56

and Chidebius White left, you know, and you

14:58

know, all those receivers there, so a lot

15:00

was a lot of like, okay, will they

15:02

be able to get to this point where

15:04

they are? Well, they still got Josh out

15:06

and then Josh out and then, that's been,

15:08

he's been, he's been, he's been, he's been,

15:10

he's been, he's been, he's been, he's been,

15:12

he's been, he's been, he's been, he's been,

15:14

So, you know, for Lamar, listen, this is,

15:16

this is what they want. You know, this

15:18

is, this is, this is why they grabbed

15:20

Derek Henry. This is why they, you know,

15:22

made the change with the officer coordinator to

15:24

be able to get to the point where

15:26

they could play either Buffalo or play Travis

15:28

and them boys. That like, listen, if you

15:30

want to be crowned, you have to, you

15:33

know, beat the top teams in the AFC

15:35

over the last three, four, five, obviously. 20

15:37

years if you're talking K.C. and these fucking

15:39

dies. It's Buffalo or K.C. So, you know,

15:41

this is, you know, an order from Lamar

15:43

to get to where he says he wants

15:45

to get, he has to go through Buffalo,

15:47

he has to go through K.C. So let

15:49

the games begin. I can't wait to watch

15:51

that one. Yeah, he's been knocking on the

15:53

door, man. He has been knocking on the

15:55

door for sure. Yeah, he's been knocking on

15:57

the door. Yep. Henry definitely helps man. He

15:59

was running. He was like a Clydesdale running

16:01

through that. Oh, he was fresh. I haven't

16:03

seen him all season. I don't know how.

16:05

Man. That was amazing. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Look

16:07

super fresh. Absolutely. King Henry. I've been loving

16:10

the commercials of you and Kevin Hart, man.

16:12

I'll tell you what, just when I thought,

16:14

because it was a celebration one in the

16:16

middle of the season, and I was like,

16:18

man, every time it came on, I was

16:20

dying laughing, but the new ones, you guys

16:22

got some heat, man. You and Kevin are

16:24

absolutely hilarious together, man. I can't wait to

16:26

keep seeing these things unfold. No, absolutely, man.

16:28

Me and Kevin, this is one of my best

16:30

friends, man, when it comes to come to this

16:32

and when it comes to this, when it comes

16:34

to this, and when it comes to this, and

16:36

when we get on set, and when we get

16:38

on set, when we get on set, when we

16:40

get on set, when we get on set, when

16:42

we get on set, when we get on set,

16:44

You know, we have a script and then it

16:46

gets to the point where we just like, man,

16:48

let's just riff and let's see what comes out

16:50

of it. Let's enjoy it. And whatever comes out

16:52

of it because of our chemistry, you know, it's

16:54

great working with Kiev, working with draft kings, being

16:56

able to, you know, do things like that, where

16:58

it's just easy for us and we're not

17:00

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is in-term Brandon. Come on in

18:36

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18:38

up Bubba? How you doing? Hey

18:40

buddy. Thanks for helping out with

18:43

this. You're in the middle of

18:45

talking to LeBron. It's pretty crazy.

18:47

Pretty crazy. It feels weird to

18:50

interrupt LeBron James. It certainly does.

18:52

I'm not going to not say

18:55

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18:57

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19:14

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19:16

I am going to be honest,

19:18

the Lions have not scored under

19:20

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19:23

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19:25

game. I feel very confident in them.

19:27

I am concerned about their

19:29

defense. Jason, should I be

19:31

concerned about their defense? The

19:34

Lions defense? Lions defense. I

19:36

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19:38

they're still healthy in the

19:40

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19:42

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load the box. They looked

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19:51

they're gonna pack the box to stop

19:53

their run. So, I... feel the exact same

19:55

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19:57

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20:02

Jamir Gibbs to score a touchdown. He

20:04

has had TD and five of the

20:06

Lions eight home games this year, and

20:08

I don't know if I trust the

20:11

commanders decline. I love the way the

20:13

Lions use him. If it's a rushing

20:15

or receiving touchdown, I feel like he

20:17

is an incredible red zone weapon where

20:20

you don't know where he might be

20:22

springing from. Yeah, I'll be surprised if

20:24

he does not score a touchdown. Let's

20:26

the last pick, last pick, we are

20:29

going to look at the game, I

20:31

think we're all waiting for. This is

20:33

Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. It's at

20:35

home. It's in Buffalo. Mm-hmm. I'm I'm

20:38

I'm gonna go with Josh Allen over

20:40

on passing yards 250 and a half.

20:42

250. I know I know he didn't

20:44

crack two wonder last time they played.

20:47

I wouldn't say like the way their

20:49

offense functions that I'm expecting a big

20:51

passing yards number, but I think the

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game's gonna be close and I think

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that Allen's gonna have to throw for

20:58

over $2.50. So I bet he probably

21:00

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eligibility varies. Well, let's move on

22:25

to your football career a little

22:27

bit. We talked about a little

22:29

bit ago, receiver at St. Vincent

22:31

St. Mary. You're at a 4-4,

22:33

right? Yep. Yeah. The highlights are

22:35

incredible, but we need to settle

22:37

something. We've started this debate, and

22:39

I'm sure you're aware of what

22:41

we're about to ask. What is

22:43

easier to do? An NFL player

22:45

going to the NBA or an

22:47

NBA player going to the NFL.

22:49

From a guy that could that

22:51

literally could have played both you

22:53

are the everybody knows you could

22:55

have done both. So this this

22:57

I respect this no this is

22:59

a great debate and this is

23:01

a great debate and I've been

23:04

hearing and seeing people's responses and

23:06

seeing people's questions or whatever and

23:08

going back and forth. I want

23:10

to say that I think it's

23:12

easier for a basketball player. to

23:14

try NFL. That's no question. Over

23:16

the NFL player trying to get

23:18

into the NBA. I just and

23:20

I know we got some great

23:22

athletes. I've seen I've seen Kion

23:24

Coleman's highlights when he played, you

23:26

know, and it's a lot of

23:28

guys that's played basketball. I've seen

23:30

Zay Flowers play his high school

23:32

high heights as well. you know,

23:34

but I would say basketball to

23:36

football. An NBA guy decides to

23:38

go play the NFL. Yes, it's

23:41

gonna take a transition period. You

23:43

know, and for me it would

23:45

have been like getting usually being

23:47

hit again. Like, like I remember

23:49

just like in high school, I

23:51

was to go from summer, from

23:53

summertime playing basketball, playing A, you

23:55

ball, and then going into to

23:57

the fall. I had to get

23:59

used to getting hit again. Like

24:01

that shit. First three practices. Once

24:03

you put on the shoulder pads

24:05

and the helmets, like getting hit

24:07

again is the most important. And

24:09

then like, you know, getting the

24:11

cadence back, you know, getting your

24:13

routes back and all that. But

24:15

once you get into a groove, you're like,

24:18

okay. You know, I got it. It's like

24:20

riding a bike. Football going to basketball.

24:22

It's a little such more, you

24:24

know, coordination and running and jumping and

24:27

jumping up. you know it's it's

24:29

it's a consistent it's consistent you

24:31

know with football you know you say

24:33

hike you know whatever your cadence

24:35

is boom just quick quick twitch you

24:37

know and then settle settle back

24:39

reset quick switch settle back reset

24:41

in six seconds at a time. Exactly,

24:44

six seconds at a time, but in

24:46

basketball, you can go on for four

24:48

or five straight minutes with no timeouts,

24:50

no breaks, and you gotta keep your

24:53

mind fresh, you gotta keep you out,

24:55

you gotta breathe, like, you gotta, you

24:57

gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta,

24:59

you know, so. Jason, isn't, isn't billed

25:02

for that one. I was about to

25:04

say, who you think would be able

25:06

to make the cleanest transition into the

25:08

NFL, who would be, who would be?

25:11

I would say off top of my

25:13

head, I would say Russell Westbrook

25:15

or Anthony Edwards. I think Russ,

25:17

be an unbelievable strong safety or

25:20

free safety, you know, his ability

25:22

to, kind of like, I think

25:24

so, I think so. You know,

25:26

and Russ, he comes, he comes

25:29

with that natural aggression off top.

25:31

He does. So, you know, he

25:33

got, so, he got that, that

25:35

Darwin James type aggression. He's trying

25:38

to hit somebody and I think,

25:40

uh, little league football highlights and also I

25:42

think he played in high school as well. Oh,

25:44

I gotta check those out. He looked like he

25:47

can make the transition as well, but off top,

25:49

I think Russ for short. Yeah, the other networks

25:51

has a bit of that mentality as well. Yeah,

25:53

yeah, for short. I was seen too. Yeah, for

25:55

sure. This fellow Ohioans, we got to talk about

25:58

Cleveland, did you know Trav saw you play? when

26:00

you were in high school? Oh yeah, baby. Cleveland State, baby. Have you

26:02

guys ever talked about this? Yeah, yeah, I did. We talked about this

26:04

a couple of times. It came to Cleveland State and watched me rock

26:06

out, man. Yeah, I was in, I was in middle school, man. I

26:08

was just trying to see the king, man. I was trying to see

26:10

the king, man. I was trying to see the king, I was trying

26:13

to see before, I was trying to see the king, before, I was

26:15

trying to see before, to see the king, to see the king, I

26:17

was trying to see before, to see the king, to see the king,

26:19

to see the king, to see the, to see the king, to see

26:21

the, to see the king, to see the king, to see the, to

26:23

see the, to see the king, to see the, to see the king,

26:26

to see the king, to see the, to see the, to see the

26:28

king, see the king, see the king, But yeah, yeah, I think

26:30

I played at Cleveland State

26:32

prior about five times. You know,

26:34

I know I played a few times early

26:37

on in high school and then a definitely

26:39

a couple times in my senior

26:41

year. So it was definitely, it

26:43

was definitely a fun time being

26:46

up in Cleveland, playing up there.

26:48

And I even played at the

26:50

Gundarina to my senior year, like,

26:53

you know, I don't like to

26:55

talk about this too much, but

26:57

my game, my senior year. had

26:59

more fans than the Cavs had

27:01

that year. I need the only

27:03

time they had more fans when

27:05

MJ played in Cleveland, but uh,

27:07

that's too funny, man. That was

27:09

too fun. That was good. I'll

27:11

tell you what, man, I'll, for

27:13

whatever reason, man, I was still like,

27:15

one of the biggest Cavs fans, even

27:17

though they were the worst team in

27:19

the league. Ricky, Ricky Davis, man, all

27:22

those guys. You would get a few

27:24

highlights a game, man. It's still me.

27:26

It's still me. Oh yeah, for sure.

27:28

Yeah, for sure. Like, you knew they

27:30

was, they didn't win a lot of

27:33

games, but they gonna give you a

27:35

couple of plays here. Ricky D, you

27:37

know, D Miles, Smush Parker, Booz, like

27:39

all those guys for that team, you

27:41

know, it was fun to watch. But

27:44

you bring up a good point with,

27:46

like. You bringing more fans to

27:48

the gun than the Cavs. I

27:50

don't think people now realize just

27:52

how big you were in high

27:54

school, like unless you grew up

27:56

in that, it was, it was so

27:58

crazy. Oh man. Right. level of expectation

28:01

and fame that you had at St.

28:03

Vincent, St. Mary. I've never seen anything

28:05

like that to this day. No, you're

28:07

right. Jason. And the funny thing is,

28:09

like you say, like, and this is

28:11

before social media, so you couldn't really

28:13

it is. Unless you was there in

28:15

real time. You didn't know it was

28:18

just word of mouth. It was like,

28:20

okay, I heard about this kid from

28:22

Northeast Ohio. Like, I heard about this

28:24

kid. It was like, okay, well, like,

28:26

who's trying to make a trip to

28:28

Akron, Ohio? Who's trying to come to

28:30

Cleveland? It's like, you know, like, if

28:32

you happen to be, you know, going

28:35

to the Ken Football Hall of Fame

28:37

or if you happen to the Rockero

28:39

Hall of Fame or if you happen

28:41

to happen to be in town and

28:43

I happen to be playing. what the

28:45

hype was all about, you know, why

28:47

it was so much conversation. So I

28:50

can only imagine if social media was

28:52

around there. We would have, like, it

28:54

would have been too much for Northeast

28:56

Ohio at that point. That's interesting, yeah.

28:58

It's really like you were, you were

29:00

the last of like that legend era

29:02

of like word of mouth. Yeah, yeah,

29:04

for sure. Man, back when you were

29:07

playing when I was playing like back,

29:09

guys had to literally be the absolute

29:11

best to get some sort of highlight

29:13

tape. If you, if like there was

29:15

nobody just out here just getting, just

29:17

putting their highlight tape on YouTube and

29:19

getting looks or getting clicks. No, no

29:21

question, Travis, like right now, like if

29:24

you, if you, you could be anywhere

29:26

in the world now and because of

29:28

the phones and because of the things

29:30

you can capture, you could be recruited

29:32

and get accepted. Back then when we

29:34

played, if you didn't have a coach

29:36

to come see you live, it was

29:38

gonna be hell. And you showed up

29:41

that day. And you had to show

29:43

up because they was all over the

29:45

place. Like they was not just gonna

29:47

come and keep coming back if you

29:49

didn't show up. Like you had to

29:51

perform in front of those coaches and

29:53

you knew, you knew those games that

29:55

those big time coaches is there too.

29:58

So it put even more pressure on

30:00

you to to show out. when those

30:02

coaches is there or We didn't know

30:04

if there's gonna come back. Just missed

30:06

the train. Yeah, you missed the train.

30:08

Yep. Not only were you from the

30:10

Northeast, you end up going to the

30:12

Cavs. Yeah! Yeah! Was it? Like 50

30:15

years or whatever? My brain is 50?

30:17

57, 50 or something crazy. 50, yeah.

30:19

Exactly. That's crazy man. I do got

30:21

to ask of your four championships, where

30:23

does the one in Cleveland rank? I

30:25

mean the first one, it's hard to

30:27

top the first one. Ain't that the

30:29

truth? Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

30:32

we all remember our first one and

30:34

we know the feeling that we had

30:36

when we won our first one because

30:38

of like all the disappointment before that.

30:40

You know, for the hard work, the

30:42

dedication, the things that people don't see,

30:44

the nights that we cry about, what

30:46

the fuck we could have did better

30:49

in order for us to get that

30:51

first one. Man. And then you're able

30:53

to prevail. That first one is so,

30:55

so special, so, so dear. But man,

30:57

it's nothing better for me than that

30:59

Cleveland one, just because of... everything like

31:01

like you said the 50 plus years

31:04

of no championship of Northeast Ohio you

31:06

know the seven years I was there

31:08

beforehand and it took me to leave

31:10

and to come back to like to

31:12

understand or appreciate even more being down

31:14

3-1 with the greatest team 73 and

31:16

9 warriors with staff and Clay and

31:18

Dreymon and you know, and coming back

31:21

and winning that game and winning that

31:23

series for the city of Cleveland for

31:25

Northeast Ohio. That's why you saw it

31:27

emotional. You get me fired up right

31:29

now. You saw me crying on the

31:31

corner. It was like it all just

31:33

like, like that one 2016. I would

31:35

become an old man someday, we will

31:38

all become an old man. You know,

31:40

we got great beers, they're gonna be

31:42

all great at some point. You know,

31:44

I'm coming in on the sides. Yeah,

31:46

yeah. That year, that's one year I

31:48

would never forget, 2016. That's. It was

31:50

unbelievable time. I came back and went

31:52

to the parade man. It was absolutely

31:55

epic dog. I appreciate you again for

31:57

doing it. I know I told you

31:59

a million times, ma'am. It's the greatest

32:01

parade, but absolutely. For Cleveland one time,

32:03

baby. Cleveland would be the only sports

32:05

town to win a series three one

32:07

and then baseball. They exact next series.

32:09

Oh my goodness, we could have been

32:12

on top of the world forever, but

32:14

it's all good. Cleveland, by the way,

32:16

the Cavs look amazing right now as

32:18

well, they got another opportunity. We are

32:20

rolling. Yeah, I hope they, I hope

32:22

they keep it going. They got an

32:24

opportunity to do something special. So, you

32:26

know, I'm glad I was able to

32:29

put on first, set the trend, and

32:31

hopefully we keep it going. Go Cavs.

32:33

There you go, baby. Well, now that

32:35

we're in the we're in the NBA.

32:37

You've went viral a couple of a

32:39

couple of a couple weeks ago a

32:41

couple weeks ago, you've went viral a

32:43

couple weeks ago, a couple weeks ago,

32:46

I guess now. Who owns Christmas? According

32:48

to you, I love the NFL, but

32:50

Christmas is the MBAs. We are trying

32:52

to, we are sneaking in on that

32:54

territory. Listen, listen, listen, I saw the,

32:56

I saw the fucking numbers after the

32:58

fact. You guys kicked our ass, all

33:00

right, okay? From a viewership stamp, well,

33:03

y'all kicked their ass. You had, you

33:05

know, the games weren't as great as

33:07

they should have been. They should, yeah.

33:09

Well you have fucking Beyonce, I think

33:11

about there. I think you got my

33:13

homes and Travis, you guys go there

33:15

and kick this bird's ass and you

33:18

know, you know, Beyonce comes out there,

33:20

you know, but I had, you know,

33:22

you know, when you go out there,

33:24

you got your little brother and he

33:26

might get beat up one time and

33:28

you're like, hey. We didn't lose that

33:30

fight. We didn't. We're staying here. Yeah,

33:32

we didn't lose. That's how I felt.

33:35

I had to stand up for the

33:37

NBA. You've had a couple huge milestones

33:39

recently. Recently passed Karim Abdul Jabbar from

33:41

most points in your career. It's crazy

33:43

stuff right there. And obviously you and

33:45

Brani became the first father's son duo

33:47

ever to play in the game. I

33:49

mean, what? What career achievement means the

33:52

most to you? Besides the titles, we

33:54

already talk about the titles. Yeah, yeah,

33:56

yeah, yeah. Like this type of stuff,

33:58

like, yeah. Which one is the biggest

34:00

deal to you? I think besides the

34:02

titles, you know, obviously the titles rank

34:04

right up there. There's something that you,

34:06

you know, when you, when you get

34:09

into it, that's all you play for.

34:11

When you're able to get with a

34:13

franchise and y'all believe in the same

34:15

thing. And when you're able to accomplish

34:17

that, it's like, that's exactly what the

34:19

hardworking dedication for. But for me, you

34:21

know, obviously, when it comes to the

34:23

titles, that's one separate thing, but to

34:26

be able to be in this league

34:28

and plan this league and also being

34:30

able to do it alongside Brony right

34:32

now, that's like one of the biggest

34:34

accomplishments and probably the number one accomplishment

34:36

I've ever been able to do, like,

34:38

to work with your son. It's so

34:40

crazy. It's a lot of people and

34:43

like not only sports, you know, but

34:45

I've heard it in business and walks

34:47

of life and there says the greatest

34:49

thing you could ever ever have and

34:51

you know to see him every day,

34:53

you know, grinding and going through the

34:55

process of trying to become who he

34:57

wants to become while I'm, you know,

35:00

sitting there and just watching him and

35:02

doing the things that he wants to

35:04

do and being able to just take

35:06

it all in. It helps me get

35:08

some of the minutes and hours and

35:10

years back. that I did not have

35:12

with them because I was playing so

35:14

much and on the road and doing

35:17

my own things on traveling. Exactly. So

35:19

to be able to get some of

35:21

this time back now, man, it's pretty

35:23

special. He's handled the hype and the

35:25

scrutiny and everything so perfect and so

35:27

well. Yeah. You had the hype coming

35:29

out, but there wasn't the expectations of

35:32

being as great as you and. Yeah,

35:34

and I didn't have to deal, you

35:36

know, we go back to the social

35:38

media media trolls either, growing up. Oh,

35:40

that's interesting. You know, and I didn't

35:42

have to deal with my father being

35:44

this fucking guy. It's on the pedestal.

35:46

I have to deal with that. Brony

35:49

has to deal with all of that.

35:51

And if you ever meet Brony, then

35:53

you'll realize you'd be like, I'm such

35:55

an idiot to look down on him

35:57

or not want him to do great.

35:59

He's the most chill, easy, fun kid

36:01

in the world. He goes to work, he

36:03

goes home, he takes care of his body,

36:05

he plays his video games, he reads

36:08

a little bit, and then he comes

36:10

back and does the same thing and

36:12

he's like the best big brother that

36:14

his little brother and little sister could

36:16

ever have. So, you know, but he's dealing

36:18

with all that too. So, you know, but

36:20

that's gonna make him, I think it's gonna

36:23

make him to be even greater because. having

36:25

to deal with all of the things that

36:27

he's dealing with and still being able to

36:29

come back from life-threatening situation. And

36:32

CDO's having a motivation, still

36:34

have the motivation. He didn't

36:36

have to. Brony doesn't have

36:38

to play basketball at all.

36:40

It's not like he needs the money.

36:43

He can do whatever he wants to

36:45

do. Like if he wants to do

36:47

whatever he wants to do, like if

36:49

he wants to be the CEO of

36:51

my company, he could be that. I'll

36:54

give that to start teaching him right

36:56

now to be that if you're teaching

36:58

him right now to be that if

37:00

you want to. But he's like, this

37:02

is my career, this is my goals, and

37:05

this is my aspirations, and I want to

37:07

play ball. This is something that I love.

37:09

Do you even realize that that's something that

37:11

can happen? Like I look at my kids,

37:14

I'm like, bro, that's insane. You're playing with

37:16

your son in the NBA. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

37:18

You also had your first daughter when you

37:20

were like 30. That's fair. But either way,

37:22

I just think it's amazing. And I don't

37:25

know, it's got to be like at what

37:27

point do you like? I might. be able

37:29

to actually play in the NBA with my,

37:31

like, was there a moment or like, it

37:34

was, you know what, it's a video clip

37:36

of me out that somebody sent to me

37:38

not too long ago. I think it was

37:40

about seven years ago, and it's so weird,

37:42

either seven or five years ago or whatever.

37:44

I think Ronnie was either in the seventh

37:46

or eighth grade, and it was my 15th year

37:49

in the NBA, and I felt. Incredible.

37:51

I think that was the year I

37:53

played all 82 games. I played every

37:56

playoff game. I think I played like

37:58

105 games total that year. I came

38:00

out of that season, I felt

38:02

so damn good. And I think somebody

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caught me like, you know, do

38:06

you ever think that it was possibility

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that you may stick around to

38:11

possibly play with one of your kids?

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I was like, the way I

38:15

feel right now, there is a possibility.

38:17

And it just hit you right

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there. It hit me right then and

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there. And God willing and damn

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Yes. Absolutely happened. But yeah, it's

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that was the baby from I

41:39

was in Chicago at MJ's court

41:41

it was called hoops there's a

41:43

clip right now of actually Meadow

41:45

World Peace talking about that moment

41:48

as well like oh man I

41:50

got to check it out when

41:52

I finally got out there I

41:54

was like I'm busting ass man

41:56

I was nervous I was nervous

41:58

as hell like me out there

42:00

with MJ and the rest of

42:02

those guys but I'm like I

42:04

was like, oh, I'm about to

42:06

go crazy and I did. I

42:08

did, man. That's awesome, man. I

42:11

did. That's awesome. Man, I wish

42:13

I was in that gym that

42:15

day. That's crazy stuff, man. Well,

42:17

you see all these shoes behind

42:19

me, man? You already know I'm

42:21

a sneaker in. I've collected them

42:23

over the years, man. Was it

42:25

always Nike? You used to wear

42:27

the T-Max, the same thing, it's

42:29

the same, Mary, I think I've

42:31

seen you wear the old Iverson's.

42:34

Was it always Nike? No, it

42:36

was not. It was not always

42:38

Nike. It was Nike when I

42:40

was a young kid. When I

42:42

was a young lad, obviously, you

42:44

know, you, you know, I've been

42:46

in love with Michael Jordan my

42:48

whole life. So, you know, I

42:50

saw him, Penny Hardaway, you know,

42:52

King Griffey Jr. Once I got

42:54

into the AOU program, started playing

42:56

basketball, Adidas took us over. You

42:59

know, and it became Adidas. It

43:01

was Adidas like from seventh eighth

43:03

grade to pretty much my junior

43:05

senior year. They sponsored us every

43:07

year. We played an auto Adidas

43:09

tournaments, big time tournament in Vegas

43:11

and all over the United States

43:13

of America. So. It was a

43:15

Adidas and then my senior year,

43:17

the process began, the recruitments, the

43:19

Nikes came in and the Adidas

43:22

was still there, Reebok came in

43:24

and won. You know, all these

43:26

companies came in and I took

43:28

on three pitches. I did a

43:30

Adidas pitch, I did a Reebok

43:32

pitch, I did a Nike pitch.

43:34

the best new my love for

43:36

football as well so they have

43:38

all the NFL jerseys all the

43:40

pro bowl looking jerseys that was

43:42

going to be the next year

43:45

and I'm sitting across from the

43:47

table I'm a senior in high

43:49

school I actually have to have

43:51

I actually go to I'm going

43:53

to back to class the next

43:55

day they flew me in I'm

43:57

going back to St. Vincent St.

43:59

Mary the next day my senior

44:01

year and the guy slides over

44:03

a check to me at the

44:05

end of the table. the end

44:07

of the table and he says

44:10

if if you don't go talk

44:12

to any other companies this is

44:14

yours and I look at it

44:16

I look at it 10 million

44:18

fucking dollars 10 million right there

44:20

as an 18 year old I

44:22

was still stealing change out of

44:24

my dad's fucking piggy bank I

44:26

was a high school senior man

44:28

they gave me a check for

44:30

10 million dollars and if I

44:33

promise not to go see anybody

44:35

else I told him I need

44:37

a break they stepped out I

44:39

need to fuck it and you

44:41

know section eight housing in Akron

44:43

I'm going back I don't have

44:45

shit whatever and my mom looked

44:47

at me she says son trust

44:49

your gut if they're off of

44:51

you this then who knows what

44:53

the other companies may offer you

44:56

okay mom yeah she's super composed

44:58

she's like we ain't got shit

45:00

already so it's not like you

45:02

know it changes our life Yes,

45:04

maybe in the future, but I

45:06

want you to trust your gut

45:08

and do what you think is

45:10

right. That's awesome advice, man. So

45:12

they came back in, boop. I

45:14

said, uh, thank you. I will,

45:16

you know, I will definitely like

45:19

to continue our conversation, but I

45:21

would be remiss if I did

45:23

not take those other pitches from

45:25

the other companies. I may have

45:27

cried on the way home. Because

45:29

I have a little. Your question,

45:31

man, I hope I just made

45:33

the right decision. I was like,

45:35

I could have bought the building

45:37

and me and my mom is

45:39

living in for that god damn

45:41

money. What? Easily. Easily. I got

45:44

a similar, my rookie year, or

45:46

my rookie contract. I'm going up

45:48

on redoing my rookie contract. And

45:50

I decide, I potentially, I'm like,

45:52

okay. I might do this myself.

45:54

I might forego and just be

45:56

my own agent, negotiate my own

45:58

contract. And thankful. my agents were

46:00

like they talked me into like no no

46:02

we need to you're gonna want an agent

46:05

trust me they sent over the first offer and I

46:07

was like all right where do we sound like

46:11

We can get it. We can

46:13

go high. We can go high.

46:16

That's funny as shit. Yeah, that

46:18

first time you get a check

46:20

like that on in front of

46:22

you. You never forget. Never seen

46:25

that many zeros of your life.

46:27

Never, never, ever, ever. Yes, man.

46:29

That's too funny. Have you seen

46:31

this tweet from 2015? LeBron is

46:33

30. This fuck week. We will

46:36

go on for much longer. Thank

46:38

God. Yes, I saw that tweet

46:40

throughout all of my 30s. All

46:42

of my 30s. And I

46:44

laughed at it so hard. You

46:47

put it up in the

46:49

locker, you just put it

46:51

right there? And you don't

46:54

want to know what's funny?

46:56

When I turned 40, the

46:58

same fucking guy said

47:01

LeBron turned 40. This fucker won't go

47:03

on much longer. That's so good. Oh my goodness. Oh

47:05

my goodness. He's gonna be real upset when I turn

47:07

50. No doubt. No doubt. That shit was fucking classic

47:10

man. Ron, did you ever hoop in a Heights gym?

47:12

I don't think I hoop that Heights gym, man. I

47:14

don't think I hope that Heights gym, man. I don't

47:16

think I don't think I was actually thinking about that.

47:18

And if I don't, I know it was never a

47:21

game. I never played Cleveland ice in Cleveland Heights, but

47:23

I might have been there for maybe a summer league

47:25

league game or just for a run or just for

47:27

a run or just for a run or just for a

47:29

run or just for a run or just for a run or

47:31

just for a run or just for a run or just for

47:34

a run or some. Man, yeah, yeah, yeah, either

47:36

way man. It's a Northeast Ohio

47:38

forever I want to ask one more

47:40

question and I know you've talked

47:42

about this before How did you

47:44

how did you do this? From

47:46

the? Expectations that were

47:48

on your feet Trav you touched on

47:50

this like I just never seen anybody

47:52

and I don't know that I

47:55

ever will handle ever every step

47:57

of the way with such just

47:59

like classic and grace, like, I don't

48:01

know, man, it's just been remarkable to

48:03

watch the whole journey and to see

48:05

the whole thing happen. And I know

48:07

it's not over yet and keep on

48:09

going, but I appreciate it, man. What

48:11

is the wisdom? What's the wisdom to

48:13

anybody else? Listen, Jay Traf, man, one,

48:15

knowing where I came from, you come

48:18

from hacker, you come from Northeast Ohio,

48:20

you know that you are one or

48:22

two and three and three and a

48:24

billion. And if you get that opportunity,

48:26

man, You can't, you can't fuck it

48:28

up. You just can't. Yeah. Got to

48:30

lock in, man. You know, being from

48:32

a, you know, single parent household and,

48:34

you know, and just me and my

48:36

mom, I have no siblings, you know,

48:38

seeing the struggle that my mom went

48:40

through and things that nature, that was

48:42

another thing that I was like, okay,

48:44

you can't fuck her up. Like, you

48:47

just can't, you know, because now you're

48:49

giving this opportunity. Yeah. Then I started

48:51

thinking about my career, I was like,

48:53

what do you want to be? How

48:55

do you want to be remembered? Like,

48:57

do you want to just go on,

48:59

just play ball or do you actually

49:01

want to be remember when you're not

49:03

playing ball? So like, I took that

49:05

in consideration. I took that into serious

49:07

account. I was like, I want to

49:09

be the greatest that anyone has ever

49:11

seen in the sport ever. And then

49:13

I was like, okay, but in order

49:16

for that to happen, not only do

49:18

I got to put the work in

49:20

on the work in on the court.

49:22

I have to make sure that I

49:24

take care of the business off the

49:26

court as well. You can't be a

49:28

shit show, you can't be a piece

49:30

of shit, you can't be doing things

49:32

that affects anything that has anything to

49:34

do with your profession and being available

49:36

to your teammates, being available to the

49:38

franchise, being available every time you get

49:40

out there that calls a distraction. I

49:42

felt that and when I started to

49:45

start my family, that was another part.

49:47

I knew Savannah was the one and

49:49

I started having kids. I was like.

49:51

I didn't have that male influence. My

49:53

dad wasn't around. I was like, okay,

49:55

I can't fuck that up. So like,

49:57

all of this is like pollen on,

49:59

pollen on, and yes, with the weight

50:01

of the world on my shoulders. I

50:03

remember I did an interview. I wasn't

50:05

even in the NBA. I think I

50:07

had just got drafted. I did an

50:09

interview with like. Bob Costis or something.

50:11

I think it was him. And he

50:14

said, like, how does it feel to

50:16

know that if you're not a first

50:18

round ballot hall of famer, people will

50:20

look at you as a failure. I

50:22

was like, God. I said, first ballot

50:24

hall of famer. I'm like 18 years

50:26

I haven't even played the game yet

50:28

like people look at me as a

50:30

failure I was like that I was

50:32

like oh shit this is thought about

50:34

that I haven't even thought about that

50:36

oh my god they there's people out

50:38

here that really want me to fail

50:40

oh my goodness and I use that

50:43

as motivation I was like I got

50:45

something for y'all I got some for

50:47

y'all so man it's a lot but

50:49

it's also just like to the to

50:51

the young guys out there that feel

50:53

the pressure pressure that feel like you

50:55

know feel like it's maybe too much

50:57

like Don't be an asshole, be a

50:59

good person, you know, and dedicate yourself

51:01

to the craft. The game will always

51:03

be kind to you. That always take

51:05

your body, eat well, you know, give

51:07

your faith, you know, to the higher

51:09

above because we're nothing without them, obviously.

51:12

and just be a good person and

51:14

it's not hard it's not hard to

51:16

send thank you you're welcome how you're

51:18

doing have a good day all that

51:20

type of good shit like oh yeah

51:22

nothing wrong leading your life in the

51:24

right direction baby there it is there

51:26

you get rewarded yeah you get rewarded

51:28

every time it's been inspirational the whole

51:30

way not just as a player but

51:32

I mean off the field what you've

51:34

done from a business side like I

51:36

should like trap I know you know

51:38

this but the impact you've had on

51:41

players not just in basketball but other

51:43

sports who have seen the success you've

51:45

had all walks of life. The empire

51:47

you've you've created around yourself the trust

51:49

you've been able to have with the

51:51

people around. I mean all that stuff

51:53

I've you know I've taken notes since

51:55

the since the jump man I get

51:57

a lot of people very similar to

51:59

me close to me and around me

52:01

in the business profession and I. took

52:03

notes from you on it so I

52:05

appreciate you doing doing doing the right

52:07

things always and forever and I appreciate

52:10

you coming on tonight. Thank you for

52:12

taking it. Let's see, man. New heights

52:14

went to a new height today, baby.

52:16

Let's go, baby. Let's go. Got the

52:18

king, man. Let's go. Thank you very

52:20

much, dog. Tell you don't tell the

52:22

family, we send a love, man. Absolutely.

52:24

So much love for you. Best of

52:26

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52:28

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54:35

man it's just never enough time with

54:38

my guy man I mean that flew

54:40

by just want to just grill him

54:42

I just want to grill him and

54:44

I never want to grill him and

54:46

whenever I'm hanging out with him like

54:48

I never want to just bring up

54:50

just like not bringing him nothing so

54:52

it was Nike always you know me

54:54

just like put him on the spot

54:56

if you had any advice for someone

54:58

getting into business venture um Perfect, perfect,

55:00

that's all I was gonna do, yeah.

55:02

Just keep grilling him. Man, he's the

55:04

best though, man. What a good dude,

55:07

man. Ah, that was, uh, the Cleveland

55:09

kid and me, whenever we talked to

55:11

just some Northeast Ohio guys or

55:13

girls, it's just, it just comes

55:15

out of me, I feel like

55:17

I'm like 15 all over again. It's

55:19

fun stuff right there. There is

55:21

a flower everywhere. Hilar, hilarious,

55:24

absolutely hilarious. You're like George

55:26

Washington. Oh look, it's George.

55:28

Quick division around, look ahead,

55:30

let's talk a little football,

55:33

even though we just talked

55:35

to the previous week with

55:37

LeBron and Draft Kings, any

55:39

surprises from you specifically on

55:42

last week's matchups and the

55:44

outcomes? Nothing that's, I mean in

55:46

the playoffs, anybody can win, that's

55:49

why it's the playoffs, right? So

55:51

nothing that surprising? playoffs. Tampa was

55:53

one of my sleeper teams, I

55:56

really thought, Baker Mayfield. The only

55:58

part of the season where they dip down... bit

56:00

was when Evans and Godwin got hurt.

56:02

And they weathered that storm pretty well.

56:04

I keep thinking Washington doesn't have the

56:06

roster this year and they keep proving

56:09

me wrong. So I'm going to stop

56:11

thinking that. You know what I mean?

56:13

Like I just, I keep thinking they're

56:15

just a year away from having the

56:17

guys to really get it done. But

56:20

man, Dan Quinn, Jayton Daniels has been

56:22

playing out of his mind all year.

56:24

It's taking care of the ball, man.

56:26

And they're stopping the run. I don't

56:28

know, I keep thinking that there's, you

56:31

know, somebody's gonna have a game where

56:33

they just kind of dominate the trenches

56:35

on both sides of the ball and

56:37

it's just not happening. Tampa Bay didn't

56:39

play bad, like it was a good

56:42

game. They had a couple mistakes at

56:44

the end that really hurt them. But

56:46

Washington also was, I mean, they had

56:48

a couple of four down calls that

56:50

like kept Tampa in it. You know

56:53

what I mean? Like, like, did Washington

56:55

pun? No times, no puns, no puns,

56:57

no turnovers. They were, they were moving

56:59

the ball, they were putting together sustained

57:01

drives, like I've been impressed with Washington

57:04

all year, but I didn't think that

57:06

this would be their year to compete

57:08

with the big dogs, and I've been

57:10

proven wrong clearly. Jayden Daniels has had

57:12

a tremendous season, their whole defense has

57:15

been galvanized on a organization and team

57:17

that I think has lacked a lot

57:19

of, you know, hope and like leadership

57:21

in like leadership a little bit. like

57:23

with the whole dance Snyder thing and

57:26

I think Rivera is a phenomenal coach.

57:28

I just it felt like that organization

57:30

was missing something and for this to

57:32

turn around this quickly has been remarkable.

57:34

Shout out to all those guys man

57:37

and Bobby Wagner still playing lights out.

57:39

It's been awesome to watch him. His

57:41

accuracy is out there balling. Erzy. Man

57:43

I love seeing him get after still

57:45

in his career man. For sure. You

57:48

know shout out to Baker on a

57:50

great year. I know it's not the

57:52

way those guys wanted it. I'm just

57:54

happy that he's found a home down

57:56

there in Tampa playing well. I mean,

57:59

I'm right there with you. I thought

58:01

that was, that was the one upset

58:03

that I didn't see coming and they

58:05

got a, they got a really, I

58:07

mean, I think they're the other ones

58:10

playing the lines, right? They're playing the

58:12

lines this week. This will be a

58:14

big one. Yeah, I mean, if you

58:16

can stop the run. Well, this is

58:18

the one, like, I don't know, man.

58:21

I just, they play so well. Like,

58:23

they're so well coached on offense and

58:25

defense, Washington and Detroit. But like, every

58:27

time I think they're gonna get run

58:29

on, Dan Quinn and this defense aligns

58:32

shows up, Bobby Wagner starts making plays.

58:34

early the last time they played Washington.

58:36

Saekwan had a big run. He was

58:38

like over a hundred yards in the

58:40

first like quarter damn near. And then

58:43

right after that, you see Bobby start

58:45

scraping over the top of the tie-in

58:47

and ruining that play. So vet man.

58:49

To put it in, John Thigan, he

58:51

used to use this word all time.

58:54

They're salty man. They find a way

58:56

to get it done. They're a resilient

58:58

group. And now they find themselves, you

59:00

know, playing in the division around. And

59:02

it's been a incredible year for Washington.

59:05

I mean, I would be beyond shocked

59:07

if they get it done against Detroit

59:09

this week too. But I mean, at

59:11

some point, it's just, they're having a

59:13

great year. The quarterback is playing really

59:16

well. They're well coached. And it seems

59:18

like they're a great group together. So

59:20

kudos to Washington for getting it done.

59:22

Shout out to the commanders, baby. Let's

59:24

speak in the next week. Let's go

59:27

ahead and talk to him, uh, some

59:29

divisional around, uh, football, baby. Okay, okay.

59:31

Well, we got Chief Texans. How do

59:33

you feel? 25 days since you last

59:35

played on Christmas. How about that? You

59:38

gotta feel pretty fresh. Well, I mean,

59:40

I've... So too fresh. I've been getting

59:42

after it. Never never too fresh. You

59:44

got to keep the wear and tear

59:46

on the body. You can't let your

59:49

body get out of the zone. You

59:51

know what I mean? You got to,

59:53

that's why we were in pads this

59:55

week. We had one practice in pads

59:57

and we got after it, ones on

1:00:00

ones a little bit and that keeps

1:00:02

you in the groove, right? That keeps

1:00:04

you. I mean you want to talk

1:00:06

about playing fast, that D-line, that defense,

1:00:08

it's a real deal right there. And

1:00:11

they showed it this past weekend against

1:00:13

the Chargers and what they can do

1:00:15

and they can do and they can

1:00:17

create turnovers. They're a tough team. They're

1:00:19

a tough team. They're a tough team

1:00:22

and I'm excited for the challenge, man.

1:00:24

Their secondary is very good. They can

1:00:26

match up with pretty much any team

1:00:28

in the league. Their defense a line

1:00:30

plays very aggressive. They're well coach with

1:00:33

Domingo. I, you know, Matt Burke, dude,

1:00:35

this is crazy how many staff members

1:00:37

I know for the Texans. Tamico Rines

1:00:39

I played with, Burke, the DC, was

1:00:41

with me in Philly with Jim Schwartz,

1:00:44

Corey Unlin, was with me in Philly,

1:00:46

with Jim Schwartz, Corey Unlin, was with

1:00:48

me in Philly, with me in Philly,

1:00:50

with me in Philly, Corey Unlin, was

1:00:52

with me in Philly, and Billy, Billy,

1:00:55

was with me in Philly, and he

1:00:57

just kept walking by, and he just,

1:00:59

he just kept a great group. really

1:01:01

do so it's going to be a

1:01:03

challenge for you guys shout out to

1:01:06

Houston and good luck this week you

1:01:08

got any what's what's what's the keys

1:01:10

to victory man what's the keys to

1:01:12

victory heard about that play physical just

1:01:14

give the don't turn the ball over

1:01:17

don't turn the ball over get out

1:01:19

to a fast start it's like the

1:01:21

head coach for the keys to victory

1:01:23

just as like a running like seven

1:01:25

list of like what it could possibly

1:01:28

be and it's just how do I

1:01:30

rearrange into three keys turnovers is always

1:01:32

there take care of the football which

1:01:34

I mean play out for the line

1:01:36

of scrimmage got to control the big

1:01:39

boys up front you guys control this

1:01:41

thing that's that's gonna indicate the outcome

1:01:43

right there yeah no man got to

1:01:45

play play complimentary all three phases got

1:01:47

to play together like it's it's football

1:01:50

it's not that hard ladies and gentlemen

1:01:52

everybody knows that Those are the things

1:01:54

that you got to do. Okay, so

1:01:56

the same thing that works every week

1:01:58

for what victory's got. Okay. That's the

1:02:01

one, Jason. That's the one. No, obviously

1:02:03

this team plays very, very well together,

1:02:05

man. And it's gonna take all 11

1:02:07

on the field. Yeah. It just said

1:02:09

these, another one of them right there.

1:02:12

You can't, you can't stop. Like it

1:02:14

always comes out to that. It's just

1:02:16

the same thing every single time. No,

1:02:18

man. Got to punch them right in

1:02:21

the mouth. Let's talk a little eagles,

1:02:23

Rams, Rams. Coming into town. You think

1:02:25

Saekwan scores instead of slides instead of

1:02:27

slides, a slides this week. dude I

1:02:30

was like just go score baby and I

1:02:32

was he's like I didn't want to put

1:02:34

the defense back out in the field is

1:02:36

that was the I mean yeah you never

1:02:38

know what happens it's very selfish I remember

1:02:40

a play similar play happening where we ended

1:02:42

up scoring a touchdown the defense goes back

1:02:44

out there somebody gets banged up and misses

1:02:47

the next week so it's like yeah I

1:02:49

mean that was the thing I'm going down

1:02:51

at the one though yeah get all of

1:02:53

my yards I can but then meet me

1:02:55

I don't know man that's why he's why

1:02:57

he's Where he's at I'm here anyways

1:02:59

selfless selfless absolutely selfless man, and

1:03:02

he's been like that the whole

1:03:04

year So he's just the ultimate

1:03:06

team player. I expect nothing less

1:03:08

Yeah, definitely would have scored if

1:03:10

it was me But you know, that's why

1:03:13

I don't play running back in the NFL

1:03:15

and get 2,000 yards There you go you

1:03:17

did average nine yards to carry though in

1:03:19

high school. Oh, yeah, you can we got

1:03:22

over that turf over in Lakewood I was

1:03:24

flying on that asho turf These

1:03:26

kids nowadays don't know what turf

1:03:28

is. Yes. You ever heard of

1:03:30

Astro turf? It's carpet over a

1:03:32

parking lot. People don't even know.

1:03:34

It's carpet over a parking lot.

1:03:36

People call, well we play on now

1:03:38

turf in Astro turf. I'm like, this

1:03:41

is different. This is completely different. Yeah.

1:03:43

Right. You don't. This is carpet. You

1:03:45

don't have to put strips of

1:03:47

tape so that your skin doesn't get

1:03:50

scrubbed off. We bring extra bottles, when

1:03:52

the trainers bring extra bottles

1:03:54

of, was it for oxide?

1:03:56

Yes. All right, because we're

1:03:58

fucking all day. just fucking dumping

1:04:01

it on wounds. Everybody leaves with a

1:04:03

raspberry. If you didn't leave with a

1:04:05

raspberry, I don't want you playing. But

1:04:07

I'll tell you what, when you're young

1:04:09

and it doesn't hurt your joints, it's

1:04:12

fun. Because you're fast. You are flying

1:04:14

on that stuff. Yeah. Everyone brings tennis

1:04:16

shoes instead of cleats. It's like a

1:04:18

reminder to everybody the day before. And

1:04:20

don't come with your cleats tomorrow, guys.

1:04:23

I had those little nubs. I had

1:04:25

like actual ashrotur turf cleats. Yeah. No,

1:04:27

I had I just had basketball shoes.

1:04:29

It works too. There you go. But

1:04:31

yeah, no, I'm excited about this game.

1:04:34

I mean, the Rams, obviously, I was

1:04:36

just there this Monday. They played a

1:04:38

phenomenal game against the Vikings, Matthew Stafford.

1:04:40

They're clicking on all cylinders right now

1:04:42

in LA. So it's going to be

1:04:45

a great game. It's in the link.

1:04:47

The Eagles got the better of the

1:04:49

Rams last time they played, but the

1:04:51

Rams have been have been getting better.

1:04:53

They played so fast this past this

1:04:56

past week. having the week off the

1:04:58

week before where they rested some of

1:05:00

their starters but they they look like

1:05:02

a very very good football team right

1:05:05

now oh yeah Matthew's still slanging that

1:05:07

ball as good as he ever has

1:05:09

well hanging around out there so yeah

1:05:11

it's gonna be a tough game for

1:05:13

for the Eagles but yeah it'll be

1:05:16

a fun one let's keep this thing

1:05:18

moving man hopefully we can get this

1:05:20

dubbed this weekend man and keep our

1:05:22

play of hopes alive this past week

1:05:24

and I don't know if it was

1:05:27

having the week off the week before

1:05:29

where they rested some of their starters

1:05:31

But they look like a very very

1:05:33

good football team right now. Oh yeah.

1:05:35

Matthew's still slanging that ball as good

1:05:38

as he ever has. Slanging around out

1:05:40

there. So yeah, it's gonna be a

1:05:42

tough game for the Eagles, but yeah,

1:05:44

it'll be a fun one. Let's keep

1:05:46

this thing moving man. Hopefully we can

1:05:49

get this dubbed this weekend man and

1:05:51

keep our play of hopes alive. Hey

1:05:53

yo! Super Bowl hopes alive. Finally, last

1:05:55

week we promised we would do a

1:05:57

blind ranking of Willferal movies. Oh yeah,

1:06:00

let's get it going baby. That's right.

1:06:02

So interim Brandon, please do the honors.

1:06:04

Trying to remember all of Will's movies,

1:06:06

he's got so many. So pulled these

1:06:09

off of his top 10 on IMDB.

1:06:11

So. Is this in order? Are we

1:06:13

seeing one? No, no, you're seeing them,

1:06:15

these are his numbers. These are just

1:06:17

numbers don't mean anything right now. Just

1:06:20

the first, first move, please. I kind

1:06:22

of feel like you would have gone

1:06:24

in order. You don't, who's sneakier than

1:06:26

that? Give me some fucking credit. This

1:06:31

is the top this is definitely a

1:06:33

top if not one. It's top for

1:06:35

me. I'm trying to figure what's better

1:06:37

than step brothers dude. It's so fucking

1:06:40

good like I could watch it right

1:06:42

the fuck now which is damn near

1:06:44

every movie well is in but I

1:06:46

know I'm going It feels weird to

1:06:49

put the first movie we see at

1:06:51

number one. That's a risk. We wouldn't

1:06:53

be wrong. That's a no, it's definitely

1:06:55

not wrong. I mean this is a

1:06:58

lot of people's number one. It might

1:07:00

be my number one. I'm trying to

1:07:02

like I love old school. I really

1:07:05

do love old school stepbrothers. But that

1:07:07

I feel like that wasn't as much

1:07:09

gets better and better every time an

1:07:11

anchorman. I'm also if this is this

1:07:14

is Will if this is Will Feral

1:07:16

a movie like old school he wasn't

1:07:18

the lead. That's fair. That's fair to

1:07:20

say. You know what I mean? Like,

1:07:23

although he did. He did. He made

1:07:25

probably the most impression on me as

1:07:27

a kid as Frank the Tank. Like

1:07:29

does he get considered like his wedding

1:07:32

crashes. A Will Feral movie. Even though

1:07:34

he's not the main Guy wedding crashes.

1:07:36

He's mom the meatloaf. Oh, yeah. No,

1:07:38

you can't put him in a lot

1:07:41

of one. When I think of wedding

1:07:43

crashes, I don't think it was. Yeah,

1:07:45

you think of Vince Vaughn. Think of

1:07:47

God dang. What's the other guy with

1:07:50

the crooked nose? Wilson, Owen was. The

1:07:52

crooked nose, Jesus, Jason. I'm gonna put

1:07:54

it at two or three. Just because

1:07:56

I think Anchor Man's my favorite movie.

1:07:59

Second movie up we're thinking we're gonna

1:08:01

forget about one talented You're in my

1:08:03

wheelhouse right now, Brandon. You are in

1:08:06

my fucking wheelhouse. I mean, it's got

1:08:08

to be three. If we're going Anchorman's

1:08:10

one, it's so good. And it's one

1:08:12

of those every time you see it,

1:08:15

it just gets better. Oh, God, it's

1:08:17

so good. It's so good. It's got

1:08:19

to be three. It can't be one.

1:08:21

I'm just curious what else is on

1:08:24

this list. He's had so many movies.

1:08:26

It's hard to remember all, all, all,

1:08:28

like, like, off the top the top

1:08:30

of the top of your head, your

1:08:33

head, your head, I think, I think

1:08:35

it's either, I think it's either three

1:08:37

or four, three or four, three or

1:08:39

four, three or four, three or four.

1:08:42

I can't go lower than that. Yeah,

1:08:44

it's three. I'm going three. It's two

1:08:46

if it's not one. It's so fun.

1:08:48

It's so it's so fantastic. So it's

1:08:51

got to be three. I love the

1:08:53

ballot of Ricky Bobby. Next movie. Oh,

1:08:55

so good. The other guys. Great movie.

1:08:57

Great movie. Does this go for? I

1:09:00

mean, this one's more of an underrated

1:09:02

one. I don't exactly know why because

1:09:04

it's absolutely. Elf and Anchor man for

1:09:06

me. I also think it's probably below

1:09:09

old school, even though he's not the

1:09:11

main in old school. It's just more

1:09:13

of an iconic movie. Like, this one

1:09:16

never got the level of notoriety that

1:09:18

all the other ones did. For whatever

1:09:20

reason, I don't really know why. I

1:09:22

don't really know. Because it was absolutely

1:09:25

hilarious. Movie reviews or ratings, I just

1:09:27

watched the movies, and this is up

1:09:29

there for me. So, I'm going six.

1:09:31

I'm going six. No, that's gonna be

1:09:34

five. All right, I'll go five. I'll

1:09:36

go five. I'm missing so much. I'll

1:09:38

concede. His movies are so good that

1:09:40

I can't even imagine putting anything at

1:09:43

10. This is where we're gonna have

1:09:45

to start putting some of these movies

1:09:47

down there, Travis. We have to. All

1:09:49

right, next one. Next movie. Old School.

1:09:52

This, see, just, I'm, just because it's,

1:09:54

God, Frank for Tank for Tank. He

1:09:56

goes straight into the quad. You're fucking

1:09:58

crazy man. Do you think KFC is

1:10:01

still open? You're fucking crazy. I love

1:10:03

you. We're going stranking! But you're fucking

1:10:05

crazy. Yeah, Frank, the whole town knows

1:10:07

you had a good time last night.

1:10:10

I think Elf and Anchor Man are

1:10:12

one in four. Those are the two

1:10:14

that we got to leave. No way.

1:10:17

Not four. No. I'm saying Elf and

1:10:19

Anchor Man are one in four. I'm

1:10:21

saying seven. Old Tool is seven? Yeah.

1:10:23

Just because he's not the main? Yeah.

1:10:26

If I'm just rating the movie, I'd

1:10:28

put it up higher. Can we go

1:10:30

six? No, there's so many good Willfarrow

1:10:32

movies we're missing. But this movie is

1:10:35

fantastic. Are we rating this on a

1:10:37

Will Farrell scale or just like the

1:10:39

best movies that Will Farrell has been

1:10:41

in? That's a, that's, I've been going

1:10:44

off of a Will Farrell scale. Come

1:10:46

on now. Give me a number. Just

1:10:48

go seven, dude. Oh, seven. Reluctantly, I

1:10:50

just disagree. Fine, six. Fine, six. Kind

1:10:53

of want to go four. Then go

1:10:55

four, fuck it. Just give me through

1:10:57

this. Jesus. All right. Well, lock it

1:10:59

in at four. Next movie. A Night

1:11:02

at the Roxbury. That's what I'm talking

1:11:04

about. Well, this is a guilty pleasure

1:11:06

for us. This one is... I'm so

1:11:08

pissed that we didn't talk this. Because

1:11:11

it started off on S&L and it

1:11:13

fucking became a fucking... Full-long movie. And

1:11:15

then I used to work out at

1:11:18

Jake Laser's Gym. Unbreakable. On Roxbury Road.

1:11:20

Here we go. Shout out to Jake

1:11:22

Laser and Unbreakable. I got Larry Legend.

1:11:24

Shout out to Larry Legendlery. I love

1:11:27

this movie. It is an all-time favorite

1:11:29

of mine. It is so fun. I

1:11:31

feel like Night at the Roxbury, even

1:11:33

though it's one of our favorites, objectively

1:11:36

not one of his better films. I

1:11:38

think you got to go seven or

1:11:40

eight. I'll go eight. Eight. All right,

1:11:42

eight. Locking in at eight. Next movie.

1:11:45

Elf. This is where we've ran into

1:11:47

troubles. We have to leave one open

1:11:49

for Anchor Man. I got you a

1:11:51

little bit. I front loaded it. I

1:11:54

got you. So I say six. Cool.

1:11:56

Kicking in screen. This is what I'm

1:11:58

saying. This is what I'm fucking saying,

1:12:00

man. It's a good movie. but I

1:12:03

feel very confident this is outside of

1:12:05

that top six we have right now.

1:12:07

All right seven then because I'm it's

1:12:09

up there for me. You putting us

1:12:12

in seven? Do I love kicking and

1:12:14

screaming. Is it better than Blades of

1:12:16

Glory? Is it better than Semi-Pro? No.

1:12:19

I think this one's 10 for me.

1:12:21

All right. I think it's a good

1:12:23

movie. I mean listen there's not a

1:12:25

bad Willferal movie. 90 The Roxbury should

1:12:28

have been 10. Wait the Roxbury should

1:12:30

have been 10. This is 10, interesting.

1:12:32

Next movie. He's so good. Semi-Pro. I'll

1:12:34

go nine, semi-pro. Nine, nine, this is,

1:12:37

yeah, we're on the same page. I

1:12:39

fucking love Jackie Moon, no man. What

1:12:41

characters? Electric. All of these movies are

1:12:43

fantastic. Next up, we have Blades of

1:12:46

Glory. Seven. Dude, if you do not

1:12:48

have Anchor Man, with this last film.

1:12:50

He's such an asshole if he doesn't

1:12:52

have Anchor Man. He did. All

1:12:57

right, watch movie. Anchorman. Yeah! Yeah! I

1:12:59

feel good about this list. Do you

1:13:01

remember Anchorman, too? Yes. Oh yeah. Dude?

1:13:03

It's actually really good. It's so, you

1:13:05

want to talk about the movie that

1:13:07

gets better as you get older? That

1:13:10

movie is so fucking funny. Oh my

1:13:12

God, that shit is fucking gold. Look

1:13:14

at that cast. Oh man, I gotta

1:13:16

have fucking grill my guy Paul wrote

1:13:18

about that movie man. I just got

1:13:20

I need to know more. I feel

1:13:22

pretty good about this list. It's a

1:13:25

solid list. This is a pretty solid

1:13:27

list. Would we change anything with it

1:13:29

not being behind? I probably I probably

1:13:31

switch Night of the Roxbury and either

1:13:33

taking me screaming or or semi-pro. I

1:13:35

think that one was kind of just

1:13:38

a silly one where these ones actually

1:13:40

like the character was like... I don't

1:13:42

know, I just, I just felt like

1:13:44

those characters were better. Night of the

1:13:46

Roxbury is a guilty pleasure of ours

1:13:48

though. People are going to want Elf

1:13:51

higher, Elf's going to get some tweets.

1:13:53

for four but he's got so many

1:13:55

great movies I don't think elf is

1:13:57

better than I mean I might put

1:13:59

it above other guys probably other guys

1:14:01

in old school for me I'm not

1:14:04

putting it above old school old school

1:14:06

is too iconic to me God damn

1:14:08

I love Talladega nights with a passion

1:14:10

so I feel very confident increment stepbrothers

1:14:12

are one and two though yeah I

1:14:14

think we'd killed the first the top

1:14:16

three any issues with the list please

1:14:19

tweet at j chat 85 I think

1:14:21

that's it's let him know Tell us

1:14:23

how you feel and how you feel.

1:14:25

Tell him how you feel. Tell him

1:14:27

he fucked up. Get him. That wraps

1:14:29

up another episode of New Heights. That's

1:14:32

right. Thank you to LeBron James for

1:14:34

showing up and coming out. Yeah, that

1:14:36

was incredible. The best. Still kind of

1:14:38

crazy that that even happened. Make sure

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