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today. Welcome Nate. Oh, no, I

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love it. They're great exercises. They

2:29

really are. It's nice practice for

2:32

the draft, because then you start

2:34

realizing why things break a certain

2:36

way. So yeah, as the mock turtle

2:38

necks go away, the mock drafts come

2:40

out. That's kind of just what's going

2:43

on. There you go. It's the first

2:45

mock draft in NFL Daily history. It

2:47

might be the last one of this

2:49

draft season. I don't know if we'll

2:51

do another before. Smashing the bottle on

2:53

it. Maybe the last week, a couple

2:56

days before the draft, we'll try to,

2:58

we'll drop one more. But the process

3:00

of going through it was interesting, like

3:02

I don't have to know a hundred

3:04

plus players, like you do, you're in

3:06

draft season, so I kind of feel

3:08

for you. It's another time, you know,

3:10

it's a crazy time of year for

3:13

you. Yeah, I really, you know, I don't

3:15

get as fully deep as, you know,

3:17

your guy DJ and probably, and Dane

3:19

Brugler, but I'm probably like a half

3:21

step below that. But I'm getting up

3:24

on that kind of Tom Hanks and

3:26

Castaway look. Like, that's where I'm

3:28

getting there. I'm getting there, but that's

3:30

how you know it's April. That's how

3:33

you really know it's trapsies. You wear

3:35

it well. So as a guess, we're

3:37

going to go back and forth. Yeah,

3:39

it's natural on you. A real football

3:42

guy. By the way, you had a,

3:44

I'll mention it when we talk offensive

3:46

lineman, but love that episode you take

3:48

with your dad. Mike Tice, that was

3:50

especially cool. But we're going to keep

3:53

it simple. We're going to go back

3:55

and forth. I've given you the number

3:57

one overall pick, which means you have.

3:59

That just seems silly. So let's just

4:02

start with the number one overall pick.

4:04

You have the Titans and how I

4:06

viewed it and I know this is

4:08

a little late to tell you this

4:10

was just like what you think they

4:12

should do. I don't have information on

4:14

what they're gonna do. Not really. There's

4:16

a couple little things floating out there.

4:19

But I know more like if Nate

4:21

Tice was in the front office like

4:23

he was back in the day. You

4:25

know, what would you want to do?

4:27

So you have the Titans. You're up

4:29

first. Just five tears higher than what

4:31

I was. All right, so but that

4:33

we go no I I I like

4:36

doing mocks that way anyways because I

4:38

also like thinking of the exercise like

4:40

where they what where teams are at

4:42

and kind of just get into their

4:44

mindset like kind of also the most

4:46

fun thing about analyzing sports just I

4:48

told you so you know you kind

4:50

of get into that territory. You know

4:52

it's like I used to gamble you

4:55

know I can't now because I'm a

4:57

fellow employee with that a full network

4:59

but it's just you know yeah but

5:01

you know it's not about Like the

5:03

money, it was just about being right.

5:05

And I think that's just with a

5:07

lot of stuff. Yeah, but the flip

5:09

side of that is you just hate

5:12

being so wrong. Like I couldn't accept

5:14

when I was wrong when I used

5:16

to bet wait before I came here

5:18

that it would just bother you and

5:20

you understood the math of it all

5:22

that being right six out of ten

5:24

times is great. But it's still paying

5:26

you when you really thought you were

5:29

going to get one and you didn't.

5:31

So I just, I hated that. You

5:33

really got a solid one. Yeah. It's

5:35

as I've learned though, is when you're

5:37

sports mean, it's okay to be wrong

5:39

sometimes. But anyways, long story short, number

5:41

one pick, Titans, going with Camward, quarterback.

5:43

I just, I like the player a

5:46

lot. I have really started, just, I

5:48

have really started, just to start off,

5:50

and I've kind of used this line

5:52

a few times, this draft is really

5:54

starting to feel like the 2019 draft,

5:56

but I really like him. And he's

5:58

a good player and a good prospect.

6:00

and I really like Ward, but then

6:02

also other quarterbacks might be getting bumped

6:05

up that, like, we look back on

6:07

and squint our eyes. Right, it'll be

6:09

interesting to see where, or if they

6:11

go in this box, since it's whatever

6:13

we want to do. I love that.

6:15

We talked about Kim Ward at length

6:17

earlier in the week with John Ledyard,

6:19

and you're right. The longer the process

6:22

went, the more I was flummoxed, why

6:24

he wasn't. talked about like a great

6:26

quarterback prospect in the first place, especially

6:28

for a team like the Titans that

6:30

that needs one desperately and there's such

6:32

a big falloff from him down that

6:34

it just seems obvious even if there

6:36

weren't Steve McNair comps and they're kind

6:39

of are I mean I was trying

6:41

to avoid it but that's yeah that's

6:43

a lot there's a lot there I

6:45

see far too I see far too

6:47

like I mean oh yeah kind of

6:49

the run-around stuff yeah yeah yeah just

6:51

the way just the way just better

6:53

better like scrambler than he is runner

6:55

or just like better yeah better NFL

6:58

athlete than he is just pure athlete

7:00

in that that's me as far in

7:02

the taking the chances and I was

7:04

like saying like trait wise he like

7:06

wins with balance and strength as opposed

7:08

to speed like which is like actually

7:10

matters in the NFL because you can't

7:12

run away from a lot of people

7:15

in the NFL you know so it's

7:17

it's and then also throwing he yeah

7:19

he looks to throw rather than run

7:21

which I think is you know, creates

7:23

a longer career and a more productive

7:25

career. I've really, like, I like Ward

7:27

a lot. He's, I wrote him up

7:29

and just like, really, as I studied

7:32

him more, I was like, man, I

7:34

kind of underrated you, like even like

7:36

his creativity and stuff, his creativity and

7:38

stuff is really. But really fun to

7:40

watch, like, not just the outside the

7:42

pocket, but inside the pocket too. Like,

7:44

it's just, you know, changing arm angles

7:46

and stuff is just really exceptional. That's

7:49

the number one thing for me, too,

7:51

is like, okay, maybe Khailer is a

7:53

good, a good cop in terms of

7:55

where does this guy's career go? Like,

7:57

he's adding a ton of value for

7:59

me. That's what I care about. Is

8:01

like, am I gonna enjoy watching him

8:03

every Sunday? for the Cleveland Browns. This

8:05

is a difficult one. I didn't consider

8:08

quarterback, but I'm gonna take Travis Hunter.

8:10

Ultimately, I just feel like you're, if

8:12

you're making the choice, and it's these

8:14

drafts where the. there's special players that

8:16

everyone recognizes like Jamar Chase and then

8:18

suddenly like you know he falls down

8:20

just a couple picks for whatever reason

8:22

or or even special guys at a

8:25

certain position like Kyle Hamilton falls down

8:27

certain ways at certain positions like for

8:29

whatever reason. It's like Travis Hunter to

8:31

me is just the guy that's just

8:33

the most special player easily in this

8:35

draft for obvious reasons that that we've

8:37

talked about and that you've talked about.

8:39

And so I'm just gonna take him

8:42

because I don't wanna pass on this

8:44

special player. And I know they have

8:46

good cornerbacks there. It's like, hey, I

8:48

think they're gonna need a cornerback at

8:50

some point. They're not that good there.

8:52

And he could absolutely play a lot

8:54

of wide receiver there. They absolutely need

8:56

it. I don't even care. I'm not

8:58

answering that question. For them, I just

9:01

want Travis Hunter. He's just a special

9:03

type of player and just get him

9:05

on your roster and just like, okay,

9:07

fun. And we just like, that's all

9:09

we're doing right now. I think they

9:11

shouldn't chase quarterback here at all, considering

9:13

who's out there and stuff. So like,

9:15

I, it's. Hunter to me or a

9:18

dual card? Right. That was, it was

9:20

just making the choice and I didn't

9:22

feel like I could do a wrong

9:24

one. But it's like, I've seen a

9:26

little bit, it's like, well, they have

9:28

Greg Newsom and Martin Emerson. Man, if

9:30

you're not taking Travis Hunter, because you

9:32

have Greg Newsom and Martin Emerson, man,

9:35

if you're not taking Travis Hunter because

9:37

you have Greg Newsom and Martin, because

9:39

you have Greg News and I didn't.

9:41

Oh God. Man, this is, this is

9:43

actually... I mean this can't be a

9:45

surprise if you're already saying, oh God

9:47

at number two, at number three, you

9:49

know, there's only so many routes that.

9:51

I know, but I think it's because

9:54

I've gotten lazy and not lazy. but

9:56

I think the last few, I've gotten

9:58

to be able to kind of like

10:00

rope memorization where a lot of people

10:02

go browns, a Bill Carter, and then

10:04

Giants go Travis Hunter, and it's just

10:06

like, all right, what's number four, Patriots?

10:08

Ooh, this is a fun one. Right.

10:11

I think I just, even with, you

10:13

know, Thibido there, you know, they splash

10:15

big money and Brian Burns, I think

10:17

they just still go up dual Carter.

10:19

And I think they figured out. And

10:21

you know, that's like interesting. Deante Banks

10:23

had a down year last year. Maybe

10:25

he steps back, like Hunter would have

10:28

been a lot of fun here. But

10:30

I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm

10:32

going, a dull Carter, who I think

10:34

is a very good prospect. Do not

10:36

agree with the G word, usually ever.

10:38

But with Carter, I think is a

10:40

very good one. Hadn't had some strength.

10:42

I compared him to KGB former Packers

10:45

edge. Wow. You know, and then can

10:47

get overwhelmed a little bit by more

10:49

stronger tackles, which is why I don't

10:51

consider them like that elite elite elite

10:53

prospect like I do Travis Hunter at

10:55

corner and a little bit at receiver.

10:57

But I think Abdul Carr is a

10:59

very good prospect and just get him

11:01

on this roster. I don't know. I

11:04

think I'm still optimistic on the Giants

11:06

defense, especially with the additions they had

11:08

this off-season. So get more talent there.

11:10

I can't say I was like grinding.

11:12

KGB tape back in the day. In

11:14

2000, I was in college at the

11:16

time. Actually, probably the years I was

11:18

least connected to the NFL, just because

11:21

social life, you know, it was like

11:23

right, my introduction was during that time.

11:25

But you never would have been able

11:27

to tell me that, yeah, 20 plus

11:29

years later, he would be known better

11:31

as Akbar's brother. So that's KGB now.

11:33

I like that pick too. You just

11:35

gotta take, you gotta take the best

11:38

player. Quickly, do you like him better

11:40

than Aiden Hudson coming out of college?

11:42

Abdul Carter. Yeah, I do, but I

11:44

like Hodgson. I thought he got kind

11:46

of knocked. There's actually a couple guys

11:48

that compare, like, even Michael Will. with

11:50

a Trayvon Walker, like I like Williams

11:52

better than Walker, Walker, number one overall.

11:54

Right. So, but you know, Walker tested

11:57

like a, you know, top 99, 99.9

11:59

percentile at the way Michael's more of

12:01

a very good one, but you know,

12:03

that's another discussion once we talk about

12:05

Michael, I guess. All right, I know,

12:07

you'll probably be taking him from the

12:09

sound of it than me. I'm going

12:11

to take Jaylon Walker, number four overall.

12:14

Will Campbell's pretty tempting that you would

12:16

just give it a shot and you

12:18

would have a really good guard if

12:20

if it doesn't work out a left

12:22

tackle and yet I guess when I'm

12:24

this high in the draft I do

12:26

want to take a swing I do

12:28

think of the defensive players other than

12:31

Carter and maybe one other guy what

12:33

we'll talk about but just to be

12:35

a real difference maker for a team

12:37

that is gonna have a defensive vision

12:39

even though You can say that there's

12:41

not as big a need because they've

12:43

spent so much on defense. Well, there's

12:45

still a huge need like who are

12:47

their great edge players? They have a

12:50

need for everything and I I do

12:52

think in a flexible Defense you just

12:54

take the guy that you think I

12:56

think his floor is maybe higher than

12:58

people giving credit for as just a

13:00

good edge Russia type of guy and

13:02

that you want to take a guy

13:04

with a high ceiling if you're picking

13:07

a high ceiling if you're the high

13:09

ceiling. from Georgia. Look at receiver look

13:11

at receiver at all. If they have

13:13

to there. No, because I don't think

13:15

there's a receiver I like enough to

13:17

take a fourth overall. I love McMillan.

13:19

I know your your co-worker doesn't, but

13:21

I do. He does. DJ is not

13:24

love. We had more East Jones Drew

13:26

on our our podcast 40s and free

13:28

agents with with Daniel Jeremiah last week

13:30

and he has McMillan going fifth to

13:32

the jagwares, which is interesting for a

13:34

few reasons. Number one being that he

13:36

knows what that building is talking. So

13:38

the fact that he had Ted McMillan

13:41

going to the Jaguars is specifically interesting

13:43

for him JD. But no, I don't

13:45

I don't think he's in that caliber

13:47

of receiver, but this is why I

13:49

don't like the Patriots being at four.

13:51

It's why I don't like, you know,

13:53

them losing that first overall pick by

13:55

beating the. Are you going to blame

13:57

Joe Milton right now? Yeah, I was

14:00

going to blame Joe Milton. Pick him

14:02

on the way out. I mean, they

14:04

could be, they could have their pick

14:06

on the litter. They could be trading

14:08

down and like taking Travis Hunter. Especially

14:10

with how Ward's getting looked at right

14:12

now, it's cool how everyone kind of

14:14

came to the same conclusion with Ward.

14:17

Like really, it's like independently and then

14:19

together, the consensus is all gone like,

14:21

hey, this guy's pretty damn good. Like

14:23

what are we doing here? Shoot, that

14:25

would have been nice for the Patriots.

14:27

Even if that hadn't worked out. Isn't

14:29

he just like Steve McNair, guys? Isn't

14:31

he awesome? Right, because if you're including

14:34

Ward in it, you could say the

14:36

class might be three players of. Truly

14:38

Premier like would go top five almost

14:40

any you know every year type of

14:42

players and that's Hunter Carter and maybe

14:44

not even Ward but Ward is gonna

14:46

go because he's the quarterback but so

14:48

that's why fourth is an annoying spot

14:50

but Jaylon Walker I'm feeling okay with

14:53

that I'm feeling okay with that I'm

14:55

feeling okay. It's interesting I like Walker

14:57

a lot I actually my favorite one

14:59

of my favorite player comparisons I've come

15:01

up with is Walker and Clay Matthews

15:03

from Packers. You would take that. You

15:05

would absolutely take that. That's for sure.

15:07

Absolutely. But kind of like he was

15:10

kind of a tweener coming out of

15:12

college, a late bloomer too, Walker was

15:14

more hyped. But just like that kind

15:16

of tweener, but I think it's just

15:18

going to be a really good pass

15:20

pressure at the very least. And then,

15:22

especially how defenses are now where they

15:24

drop so many guys from the line

15:27

of skirmage, like. Okay, yeah, he's not

15:29

a perfect inside linebacker type, but then

15:31

use him on the edge and he

15:33

can drop Right rush ambassador and drop.

15:35

That's exactly what he's good at. Let's

15:37

do it. So I love Walker. He's

15:39

one of my favorite players in the

15:41

draft Didn't I just have him pictured

15:44

him with the Patriots. Yeah, you also

15:46

gave me an interesting which is not

15:48

a great sign But yeah, we're trying

15:50

to be interesting on this mocking you

15:52

got the Jacks, you're number five overall.

15:54

God, now I want to do McMillan

15:56

because that would be fun. You could.

15:58

If there was a wide receiver that

16:00

I thought was worth it for the

16:03

Patriots at four, it just feels like

16:05

it's a stretch. It feels like I

16:07

have I have a couple liens here

16:09

like so like Will Campbell and Mason

16:11

Graham are kind of what I'm coming

16:13

down to here. The McMillan one there

16:15

is one I've thrown out there in

16:17

the past, but that was just more

16:20

for fun, but you know, you know,

16:22

kind of kind of want that Ralph

16:24

Sampson want that Ralph Sampson, Ralph Sampson,

16:26

Ralph Sampson, get the Brian Thomas Jr.

16:28

and McMillan. Oh my goodness, that would

16:30

be a lot of fun. And you

16:32

got Godwin and Evans right there for

16:34

you as a cop, you know, as

16:37

a comparison with Liam Cohen. So the

16:39

other comparison I've gone with with Liam

16:41

Cohen is last year they drafted Graham

16:43

Barton, one of my favorite players in

16:45

the draft last year, plopped him in

16:47

at center and he was a huge

16:49

booster for the whole bucks of a

16:51

line, and then the jags going sign

16:53

Robert Hainzy. who is who Barton beat

16:56

out at center. And so one of

16:58

my, you know, paths I've gone on

17:00

is they draft Will Campbell to then

17:02

play center. But this is way high

17:04

to play center. You know, it's a

17:06

draft guy at center, even though I

17:08

think he has more versatility than that.

17:10

I think he can play a tackle,

17:13

but the jags already have tackles. So

17:15

are you drafting a guard here at

17:17

five? That's a little rich for me.

17:19

So that's why I'm gonna go with

17:21

Mason Graham. Okay, defense a tackle just

17:23

create a really fun defense a line

17:25

You know, there's other players on the

17:27

edge that maybe they look at but

17:30

and maybe even they go with the

17:32

McMillan path, but Let's go defense tackle,

17:34

pop a minute with Walker, pop a

17:36

minute with the artist formerly known as

17:38

Josh Allen, and just have a really

17:40

good talent to defense a line that

17:42

can get after the passer, and just

17:44

build their trenches. And I don't think

17:46

they're, I think also the new GM,

17:49

who you've discussed as well, has no

17:51

issues with taking maybe. imperfect prospects because

17:53

Graham has a little shorter arms. But

17:55

just watch his tape, especially his 2023

17:57

tape, and it's just very explosive and

17:59

disruptive as well. Right, maybe the 24

18:01

tape he was playing through injuries. He

18:03

does have some detractors out there. I

18:06

want to have Ali Khanelian who does...

18:08

a great job on his podcast for

18:10

the read option. I mean, he's, he

18:12

was very low on Graham, just thinking

18:14

he's on the ground too much thinking

18:16

that you can't win the way he

18:18

won in college at the pro level,

18:20

that it's gonna be really hard for

18:23

him to win quickly like he's Aaron

18:25

Donald or JayJ Watt, like he's just

18:27

not gonna be able to pull that

18:29

off. And then what do you have?

18:31

Maybe a guy who is a downer

18:33

on running downs that maybe can't hold

18:35

up, but that's just the other side

18:37

and it's good to have. differing opinions.

18:40

That would be fun though, him and

18:42

Jacksonville. I like that. All right, I'm

18:44

gonna go. He's not a blue chip

18:46

prospect to me, but yeah, I consider

18:48

him a good one. So I've something

18:50

to concern, same concern with Holly, I'm

18:52

a little higher than him though. So

18:54

I am up with the Raiders and

18:56

Ashton Gente's been a very popular pick

18:59

there in terms of what will happen.

19:01

Now I'm on the board, I'm building

19:03

the team, Will Campbell is still sitting

19:05

there. you could start a mat guard

19:07

actually right away. And then at some

19:09

point, Colton Miller's not gonna be there

19:11

forever. You could move him outside. I

19:13

wrote down Gente just assuming that this

19:16

was gonna be the process that happened.

19:18

And yet if I'm on the clock

19:20

and I'm the one building the team,

19:22

I actually would take Will Campbell here.

19:24

So that is what I'm gonna do.

19:26

As much as I would love Gente

19:28

there, I just think. I just think

19:30

it makes sense for them. People get

19:33

way too locked into what the roster

19:35

is right now. They have a right

19:37

tackle that they like and glaze. So

19:39

that's kind of covered. It's fine. We've

19:41

seen this happen all the time in

19:43

NFL history where a guy starts out

19:45

at guard and moves to left tackle

19:47

when the incumbent eventually moves or goes

19:49

the other way. Gives left tackle a

19:52

shot and moves inside. In this case,

19:54

he would just start out at guard

19:56

and even though it's rich, I guess

19:58

for the sixth pick. Guards are getting

20:00

rich Nate guards are getting paid the

20:02

same as cornerbacks getting paid way more

20:04

than offball linebackers and and safeties and

20:06

running backs. So guards, if you're kind

20:09

of like looking at the average value

20:11

of what's the franchise number, if you

20:13

just made a guard franchise number, they

20:15

don't do that now. It actually would

20:17

be over 20 million, it'd be very

20:19

high. So if we're valuing the position

20:21

that much, I'm fine taking them sixth

20:23

overall and just making the whole group

20:26

better. And when you're just talking about

20:28

long-term stuff and you bump up the

20:30

left tackle, what I love about Campbell,

20:32

with him is he's a best five

20:34

enabler. Like no matter what you're going

20:36

to get your best five out there

20:38

because he unlocks that ability. You know,

20:40

kind of like Tuney is able to

20:42

do that in theory. And then you

20:45

see my left tackle for extended periods

20:47

and you're like, but it's, but I

20:49

think that I really like Campbell, I'm

20:51

super high on him and actually a

20:53

couple other guys, but I really like

20:55

him just because of that ability and

20:57

I could just picture it and see

20:59

it. Way better athlete. I mean he

21:02

tested like it, but way better athlete

21:04

than he's still getting credit for it.

21:06

Just a good player. I'm always wary

21:08

of saying like it's a safe pick

21:10

when it's an offensive line. People do

21:12

that all the time and then it's

21:14

like Ikiakanu and and that draft. Who

21:16

did the Giants take there? Evan Neal.

21:19

Evan Neal. They're like, oh yeah, well,

21:21

these are saves. Plug and play, 10

21:23

years. Like, no, you can't say that

21:25

about literally any position, except for maybe

21:27

a couple prospects each year, which are

21:29

just exceptional. Even those, occasionally, that's not

21:31

right about. All right, you got the

21:33

Jets at number seven. Man, so who

21:36

is still out there? I'm just trying

21:38

to look at my my blue chippers.

21:40

Jets are an interesting team. Jets are

21:42

an interesting team. especially with Mambu from

21:44

Mazzoo, would be the guy, but I

21:46

want to get spicy. Wow, I'm gonna

21:48

have some fun here. I'm gonna go

21:50

Colson Loveland. Wow, Michigan. I just finished

21:52

writing up a article on Yahoo and

21:55

I went into the process. I watched

21:57

these guys usually during the season, mostly

21:59

focused on NFL. I watched. about two

22:01

games during the season, if I'm being

22:03

honest. Then I started picking up after

22:05

the season, usually for article purposes, start

22:07

pulling clips, wrote about Tyler Warren

22:10

from Penn State, who was my tight end

22:12

won, I'm on my last big board, loved

22:14

one right behind him. I watched it,

22:16

and I think Loveland is clearly above

22:18

Warren as a tight end prospect after

22:20

studying six games. And, and. trying to

22:22

really look in the stats and everything.

22:24

Loveland is a true upside as a

22:26

wide tight end, meaning in line. I

22:29

don't love taking tight ends early, but

22:31

I think his floor is high for

22:33

a 21 year old tight end as

22:35

a rookie that already shows it. It's

22:37

not just, you know, ideas, it's not

22:39

projection that he can block in line,

22:42

but also split out and be a true

22:44

weapon as like a, you know, maybe not

22:46

the alpha. receiver, you know, past

22:48

catcher, but if you haven't paired

22:50

with a guy, I don't know,

22:52

Garrett Wilson, that's a great little

22:54

pairing and great little synergy that

22:56

they can work off each other,

22:58

can attack all three levels. He's

23:01

a good route runner already, already,

23:03

he's already mentioned that he's young,

23:05

got a good frame, he's longer,

23:07

he's longer, he's longer, he's longer,

23:09

he's longer, he's a good route

23:11

runner already, already, he's already mentioned

23:13

that his tier maybe better, and

23:15

projects. I've desperately needed some

23:17

tight end help and better tight end

23:19

coaching. It's been one of the low key

23:22

atrocities in the last year or two. Oh

23:24

yeah, it's been one of the things I

23:26

can't. Anytime you watch the Jets, the tight

23:28

ends is their run game would be absolutely,

23:30

it was like the chargers the last few

23:33

years. The tight ends were so bad at

23:35

blocking in the run game that that crippled

23:37

the run game more than the offensive I

23:39

did. Yeah, so. And some love some love

23:41

one. I like that too, the fit, the

23:44

offensive coordinator Tanner Engstrom coming from Detroit, so

23:46

he gets his, he gets his Sam La

23:48

Porta, they certainly want to, you know, use

23:50

that middle of the field in that type

23:53

of offense. I keep saying it, I think

23:55

this Jets team has more than people realize,

23:57

not like it's got to go to the

23:59

playoffs, but especially... defensively. They're really just missing

24:01

one spot on the offensive line, but they

24:04

got the rest of the draft to do

24:06

that. And if you're in a spot where

24:08

you feel pretty good about four spots on

24:11

your offensive line, that's a good place to

24:13

go from. And they could certainly use a

24:15

weapon alongside Garrett, so Garrett Wilson. So I

24:17

really like that pick there. I'm with you.

24:19

I think Loveland versus Warren. You just

24:22

can see it easier. Tyler Warren's such

24:24

a unique prospect that I'm not smart

24:26

enough to. to quite know if that's

24:28

gonna work or not, whereas Loveland, you

24:30

just get it. I'm gonna make another

24:33

surprising pick here before we take our

24:35

first break. The Carolina Panthers, and I

24:37

was talking about blue chip players, potentially

24:39

in this draft, there's only like a

24:42

couple, so I'm taking Hunter, I feel

24:44

like Will Johnson has a chance to

24:46

be a true blue chip NFL player.

24:48

So I'm putting him on the Carolina

24:51

Panthers at number eight overall. I do,

24:53

I know he's not the athlete. likely

24:55

they have their pro day coming up

24:58

in a couple weeks that some cornerbacks

25:01

that have gone this high are. But

25:03

in terms of the profile, in terms

25:05

of the 2023 tape. and in terms

25:08

of the upside, they need defensive players.

25:10

They've set, Dave Kanalas has said it,

25:12

like we have to focus on the

25:15

defense. And I think of all the

25:17

defensive guys out there, he would be

25:19

the guy that I feel good enough

25:22

about the floor and that I feel

25:24

has a real top 10 worthy ceiling.

25:26

So I am gonna go Will Johnson

25:29

at cornerback to the Panthers. You could

25:31

pick any defensive player or like high-end

25:33

defense pro prospect here and for the

25:35

Panthers like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

25:38

yeah, totally. You know, like I get

25:40

any guy here. So you go linebacker,

25:42

jihad Campbell, you go edge, you know,

25:44

I've mentioned Michael Williams or Mike Green

25:47

or something like that, but or corner,

25:49

I'm with you, on Will Johnson, he's

25:51

still a top 10 player for me.

25:53

Oh, good. Yeah, I have him at nine, I

25:56

think I have him at nine, I think I

25:58

think I'm a last big board nine. I,

26:00

he's just smart, like, and has

26:02

great size for the position. The

26:04

long speed is the one thing

26:06

that, you know, his big knock

26:08

and his 2024 tape wasn't overwhelming.

26:10

You battled an injury, and some

26:12

of that, some people weren't happy,

26:15

that you kind of, more or less

26:17

sat out the season. But, if

26:19

you watch Michigan's quarterbacks, you don't

26:21

understand why. Right. Oh my God.

26:23

I really like him. He was

26:25

my number one player at the

26:27

mid-season point. That's what I'm talking

26:29

about. That's what I'm talking about.

26:31

That's why you want that kind

26:33

of player that would inspire a

26:35

guy like Nate Tice to have

26:37

him number one overall at some

26:39

point. He just knows how to

26:41

use his body, like his body

26:43

positioning is like very good. Like

26:45

he knows how to play corner.

26:48

And it's just that's why I

26:50

like Johnson a lot. You got

26:52

Trev and Morgue there at safety,

26:54

but you brought back Mike Jackson

26:56

at cornerback. I mean, you don't

26:58

really have a slot player. You

27:00

need a lot. You need everything

27:02

just about on that, David. I

27:04

would say you really could use

27:06

a cornerback, and I think he

27:08

fits. Let's take a quick break,

27:10

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on NFL Daily. Now I feel like

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a jerk by setting up this artificial

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scenario. We can't comment on each other's

1:00:57

picks. Maybe, ooh, we'll just make it

1:00:59

quick. I mean, Nate loves this. I

1:01:01

don't want to rob him of any

1:01:03

quality time with me. And you really

1:01:05

do love it. I would say that

1:01:08

we were just talking in the break

1:01:10

of like some good advice you got.

1:01:12

when you were coming up about learning

1:01:14

the league, that you got to know

1:01:16

both sides, you got to know how

1:01:19

players actually fit in the league, and

1:01:21

you got to know how they fit on

1:01:23

current rosters, which I think sometimes is a

1:01:25

blind spot for some of the draft Knicks

1:01:27

out there. But the advice I would give,

1:01:30

and I don't need to give it to

1:01:32

Nate, you better love this. Like, Nate says

1:01:34

in the break how much he genuinely likes

1:01:36

this exercise because it gets him thinking. It

1:01:39

gets him thinking. Talk to some people who

1:01:41

want to get in. I was like, you

1:01:43

better like really love the football side of

1:01:45

it, not not the media side of it

1:01:47

necessarily. You need to love both ultimately, but

1:01:49

you need the football part of it to

1:01:51

carry you through the times when it feels

1:01:53

like a little bit more of a grind

1:01:56

that you'll always be able to go back

1:01:58

to that. And I don't know if I

1:02:00

anyone loves Bob more than Nate. I mean,

1:02:02

I'll give it up to you. Which is

1:02:04

the irony because like even when I

1:02:06

was playing, I like the film aspect

1:02:09

and like the scheme install more

1:02:11

than like working out. Like, you know,

1:02:13

I like the mental side of it.

1:02:15

I know. And yeah, there's a lot

1:02:17

of that. There's a lot of people

1:02:19

always come to being and go like,

1:02:22

you know, I've realized I'm terrible with

1:02:24

this advice. I've tried to get better

1:02:26

when they're like, like, like, what's like,

1:02:28

Like, you just got to build a

1:02:30

roll of decks in your mind. They're

1:02:33

like, okay, so like, what do you

1:02:35

watch? I'm like, everything. Like, here's a

1:02:37

thing that's not a, a one size

1:02:39

fit all advice because I know it's,

1:02:41

you could just say it for me,

1:02:44

but there's so many different roles within

1:02:46

the media that some people, like watching

1:02:48

a ton, it might not really click

1:02:50

for them or it might not be where,

1:02:52

what they need to do. But what I

1:02:54

would say is, even if you're not

1:02:56

that person. you still got to have

1:02:59

that love of the football there. That's

1:03:01

what I that's sort of what I

1:03:03

mean that even if you you're you're

1:03:05

playing a different role and maybe you're

1:03:07

not like it you still need that

1:03:10

love and it needs to come out

1:03:12

in some certain way and you'd

1:03:14

be surprised how many people don't

1:03:16

really quite have that and then

1:03:18

those are the people that fall

1:03:20

off even the ex players that are

1:03:22

in there's varying degrees of how

1:03:24

much they love football. competing, but

1:03:26

they really, and some of them are

1:03:29

extremely smart and went really far

1:03:31

because they worked hard at football and

1:03:33

were smart about football, but they're

1:03:35

still not that into it. They're somehow

1:03:37

like a dichotomy that it's just

1:03:39

like, yeah, it's like I wasn't

1:03:41

into watching other football, like why would I

1:03:44

care? That's it. It was like, hey, we're

1:03:46

playing the dolphins this week. I watched a

1:03:48

lot of dolphins. And I watched through the

1:03:50

Dolphins played the last couple weeks and then

1:03:52

I'll never think about them again. And these

1:03:55

are great players too. Like they can be.

1:03:57

Pro- Bowl players. I'm not like just saying

1:03:59

scrubs. It doesn't necessarily stop you. It's

1:04:01

not a one-size-fits-all. It's a sliding

1:04:04

scale of also, like, hey, sometimes

1:04:06

if. you don't have the athleticism,

1:04:08

you will need that extra work

1:04:10

to catch up, which is how

1:04:12

I view myself at least in

1:04:14

terms of the media part of

1:04:17

it. So I better, I better

1:04:19

be working hard. All right, here's

1:04:21

what we're gonna do. We're gonna

1:04:23

make these last 12 picks. We

1:04:25

can make comments about each other's,

1:04:27

we don't need comments about each

1:04:29

other's, we don't need to just shut

1:04:32

our mouth. But there's red lights on

1:04:34

behind us, stick and pick team. And

1:04:36

right now, I. I'm like the last

1:04:38

person to realize this a couple weeks

1:04:41

ago. Everyone is on their original draft

1:04:43

pick, which is just amazing. Right? Is

1:04:45

that true? Yeah, right. I think it was

1:04:47

the first time ever or something like that

1:04:49

for us. That's preposterous. I mean,

1:04:52

think about the NBA where it's literally the

1:04:54

opposite. I don't think anyone through the notes

1:04:56

of like the picks I got traded. Last

1:04:58

second round in the NBA. I believe no

1:05:00

one. This is true, I believe. No one

1:05:03

took their original second round pick, I believe,

1:05:05

in the NBA, which is just, oh no,

1:05:07

which is just ridiculous. Don't look. You look

1:05:09

at, you look at, you like the same

1:05:11

stuff like little tidbits I do. I kind

1:05:14

of love that kind of, I do that.

1:05:16

It seems crazy. It seems absolutely crazy. Oh,

1:05:18

oh yeah, no, that's just, yeah. You're

1:05:20

right, of course, I'm correct. Everyone

1:05:22

got traded. And I would say,

1:05:24

I would say each one got

1:05:26

traded more than once. Oh, no,

1:05:28

one, one only got traded once.

1:05:30

Oh, yeah. This is what I

1:05:33

mean. They have to come up

1:05:35

with a different word. Portland Trailways,

1:05:37

you select a pick 34

1:05:39

from Charlotte, via New Orleans,

1:05:41

to Oklahoma City, to Denver,

1:05:43

traded to Denver, but if.

1:05:45

if like they were just half the guys were

1:05:47

international player right if they were just way

1:05:49

less of them and you can do it seven

1:05:51

years out I often think about how different the

1:05:53

NFL would be if you were allowed to

1:05:55

trade picks out as far as the NBA

1:05:57

it always seems crazy to me was like

1:06:00

Well, I don't know if the Lakers

1:06:02

like that's the best dress at the

1:06:04

asset they have the 29 first that

1:06:06

they've been holding onto I'm like 29

1:06:08

like you're in the NFL you're three

1:06:10

regimes away like imagine if you would

1:06:12

allow teams in the NFL right now

1:06:14

to trade to 30 and 31 like

1:06:16

the NBA it would be absolutely insane

1:06:19

or that the NBA has rules named

1:06:21

after owners trading away their picks too

1:06:23

much The Steppian roll, because they traded

1:06:25

away, the calves owner to a five

1:06:27

first rounders in a row, so they

1:06:29

said, yeah, you can't do that anymore.

1:06:31

You can't trade first rounders back to

1:06:33

back here. I can see like the

1:06:35

thought bubble above my producer Eric said

1:06:37

which is bro you just came back

1:06:39

to break saying you got to keep

1:06:41

it quick one minute per and you

1:06:43

talked for four minutes about the NBA

1:06:45

second now you guys can't talk about

1:06:48

each other's picks anymore you just use

1:06:50

it all up on NBA draft knowledge

1:06:52

I do love the NBA televised now

1:06:54

yes I also think it's crazy and

1:06:56

I always think about how crazy would

1:06:58

be if we had the NFL draft

1:07:00

a week and a half after the

1:07:02

Super Bowl Super Bowl do. This great,

1:07:04

that's, that would be crazy. Or even

1:07:06

the NBA, it's fun because it goes,

1:07:09

yeah, and they do the draft and

1:07:11

for agency. I think that actually makes

1:07:13

sense, but the week and a half

1:07:16

later, man, that would be crazy as

1:07:18

from Media said. All right, we're

1:07:20

gonna do it. 21st, it's the

1:07:23

Steelers, you're up. I'm gonna go,

1:07:25

Savone, Raval. Wow, okay. Yes, corner,

1:07:27

East Carolina, I think he's very

1:07:29

talented. Yes, he's coming off in

1:07:31

a small. Some inconsistencies play the run,

1:07:34

but I think he's just the talent

1:07:36

of him being a true outside

1:07:38

corner type. I've compared him to

1:07:40

Antonio Carmardi, former Charger's Corner, who

1:07:42

also came off an ACL and

1:07:44

my co-host on football 301, Charles McDonald,

1:07:47

compared him to Dominic Rogers, Carmardi,

1:07:49

which we did not know about,

1:07:51

which I thought was very funny,

1:07:53

but that type of corner, long,

1:07:55

athletic, more tools even than polished,

1:07:57

but especially for a small school

1:07:59

guy. I love the Cromarties. Love that

1:08:02

DRC had his moment in the

1:08:04

sun. I love that, you know,

1:08:06

Antonio, one of the weirdest up

1:08:08

and down careers. I like that

1:08:11

pets. And yes, everyone check out

1:08:13

Charles and Nate. They have great

1:08:15

draft coverage all year long on

1:08:18

football 301. Just do that for

1:08:20

me. All right, let's go to

1:08:22

the Chargers. Today Barron's still

1:08:24

there, right? Yes. There's a

1:08:26

few different players, Amari and

1:08:29

Hampton would make sense there too. Mm.

1:08:31

I know. It would be fun. Those

1:08:33

are the two players that I like

1:08:35

a lot, that I also think fits.

1:08:37

What they would possibly want. But again,

1:08:40

I'm thinking if it was my team,

1:08:42

I probably would lean barren. I think

1:08:44

he's a really good player. He's a

1:08:46

rare player that I actually feel like

1:08:48

in this class. I think he slipped

1:08:50

a little. He's a good value at

1:08:53

22. So it's like, this class is

1:08:55

almost like, pick your poison between 7

1:08:57

and 30. But I actually think he's

1:08:59

a really good player that I could

1:09:01

have taken much higher and I would

1:09:04

have felt fine about it personally. So

1:09:06

I like him going to go into

1:09:08

the chargers and they've shown they can

1:09:10

coach up the secondary. Maybe it's not

1:09:12

as huge a need for them, but

1:09:15

they'll find a spot for him on

1:09:17

this type of defense that's more of

1:09:19

a. this group views their DBs. You

1:09:21

know, get their best. He's a best

1:09:24

five enabler four DBs. I view him

1:09:26

more as a slot safety than a

1:09:28

slot corner. That makes sense. Yeah,

1:09:30

like that that type of hybrid.

1:09:32

But I'd like this fit here.

1:09:34

And I think he could just

1:09:36

be a lot of fun, especially

1:09:38

with James and just just afraid

1:09:41

of defense. This is a

1:09:43

perfect type of fit for him. All

1:09:45

right, you're up. You got the Packers.

1:09:47

You know, I'm gonna get, they need

1:09:49

a bruiser and I think they know

1:09:51

that. I'm gonna go Kenneth Grant. Oh,

1:09:53

Michigan, which is not one I've really

1:09:55

done before, a pairing I've done before,

1:09:57

but Kenneth Grant, Michigan Packers, has tools.

1:10:00

More than just a run plug, I know

1:10:02

I just say kind of a grunt, you

1:10:04

know, burly guy has the upside of that,

1:10:06

but has some twitch to maybe get after

1:10:08

the passer, more of is still developing as

1:10:11

a player, but he has stretches that are

1:10:13

as good as like anybody in

1:10:15

this draft. That's why, I mean,

1:10:17

he has potential to be the

1:10:19

best defense alignment from this draft.

1:10:21

It's just more stretches and everything.

1:10:23

Has tools, Packers love tools, he

1:10:25

guys, Devante-wise, it's been kind

1:10:28

of. on the backside of his career,

1:10:30

so pop this guy in, go next

1:10:32

to my boy, Carl Brooks, make some

1:10:34

magic there. Yeah, that was gonna

1:10:36

be my pick with the next

1:10:38

selection, Minnesota, and I did do

1:10:40

homework for this. I know they've

1:10:43

added a couple veteran defensive tackles,

1:10:45

but I think having a guy

1:10:47

like him long term would make

1:10:49

a lot of sense. I did

1:10:51

do a lot of homework, and

1:10:54

I wrote down a bunch of

1:10:56

options later in the draft, are

1:10:58

off the board. And so... Aaron

1:11:00

and Grant are like great picks

1:11:02

for us the findings too. Yeah.

1:11:04

Yeah. Yeah. I took it away

1:11:07

from myself. I'm not a fan

1:11:09

of Emenwari, so I just don't

1:11:11

want to make a pick that

1:11:13

I don't quite... Not here either.

1:11:15

Believe in... I need your help

1:11:18

here. Um, God, you

1:11:20

know, they're not going to

1:11:22

go. Is Walter Nolan like

1:11:24

a tackle? I think Walter

1:11:26

Nolan can work here from

1:11:28

Olmas. Yeah, a lot of

1:11:30

different opinions about him in

1:11:32

the, in the draft. You're

1:11:34

lower. I do think they need

1:11:37

some like long-term beef up front

1:11:39

and I know they signed. Hargrave, but

1:11:41

I do want more the defense a

1:11:43

tackle plugger type or do you

1:11:45

want more the athletic twitchy type? Because

1:11:48

I like Williams from Ohio State's like

1:11:50

a sneaky guy here. This is kind of

1:11:52

the start of his range. Okay. He's like,

1:11:54

he's burly and you know, got more athleticism

1:11:56

to him, but his upside is like a

1:11:58

true plugger. Let's. Let's do that.

1:12:01

I'm changing my check for the

1:12:03

first time. Because I've actually, I've

1:12:05

also heard people say like, well,

1:12:07

Mari and Hampton would fit perfectly

1:12:09

in that scheme. It's like, yeah,

1:12:11

but they just gave good money to

1:12:13

Jordan Mason. Like, there's just not. Yeah,

1:12:16

it's just not. Yeah, it's just not.

1:12:18

Yeah, it doesn't make, that doesn't make,

1:12:20

and Aaron Jones. Right. And they, you

1:12:22

know, they, you know, they play Footsey

1:12:25

with Ty Chandler with Ty Chandler all

1:12:27

about. he's not going to play a young back. Like

1:12:29

I could tell you if he's there for the next

1:12:31

10 years, he's one of those guys that's only going

1:12:33

to play a vet running backs. Because he just, he has

1:12:35

such a short leash. It appears just me, just ream between

1:12:38

the lines when I watch them. He does not want run

1:12:40

a back stack back there that he can't trust, which is

1:12:42

kind of funny. Because Aaron Jones was like that, but he's

1:12:44

developed into an OK pass protectorator, but he was one of

1:12:47

those guys that was bad and best protection early in early

1:12:49

in early in early in early in his career early in

1:12:51

his career early in his career. Every two minutes

1:12:53

I suddenly remember, oh yeah, we were

1:12:55

gonna speed it up. You have the

1:12:58

Texans and then I restart some other

1:13:00

conversation. It's fine. I like, this is

1:13:02

the first time we've gone through players

1:13:04

like this at every position and thinking

1:13:06

about teams specifically. So it has been

1:13:09

a really good exercise for me

1:13:11

too. So you're up with the Texans. Yeah,

1:13:13

I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Josh Connorly

1:13:15

here from Oregon, offense to tackle. This

1:13:17

is a guy I'm high on, but then

1:13:20

my dad comes in and blows my hot

1:13:22

take out of the water and he drops

1:13:24

him as offense alignment one. But that is,

1:13:26

with the Texans, I mean, just look at the

1:13:28

roster, it's, I think the, their mandate

1:13:30

is that they want offense alignment, even

1:13:32

if there's other positions, like Golden here

1:13:34

would make a lot of sense, you

1:13:37

know, the receiver from Texas, and I

1:13:39

think this is the range for Golden,

1:13:41

I'm comfortable with him. That would make

1:13:43

a lot of sense, because I also

1:13:45

like the synergy with him and Niko

1:13:47

Collins, but I that the Texans have

1:13:49

for their entire. off-season is off-saline, off-saline,

1:13:52

off-and-saline, off-and-a-line. Cam Robinson does not preclude

1:13:54

you from right drafting a tackle. That

1:13:56

is a stopgap. That gives you options.

1:13:58

Get your best five out there. get the guys

1:14:00

what if the guy kind of always a developing

1:14:02

ascending player you know he's not all the way

1:14:05

there yet I understand why my dad's high on

1:14:07

him I'm high on him too but yeah that

1:14:09

kind of gets you a nice little stopgap if

1:14:11

you need it But Connor we could be that

1:14:13

blinds. He does look like an NFL player and

1:14:15

I think the Texans might have lucked out actually

1:14:18

being 25th because I don't know if the gap

1:14:20

between the top tackles and where they'll be taking

1:14:22

but they might have a choice between him and

1:14:24

Josh Simmons from Ohio State which are a long-term

1:14:26

possible high upside type of players so I like

1:14:29

that. I got the Rams. I was hoping that

1:14:31

should her Sanders would fall all the way down

1:14:33

here. I think they would do it. I think

1:14:35

they would do it and I'm gonna I'm gonna

1:14:37

do it. Why not? I love it. I

1:14:40

just want to. This is actually a

1:14:42

good fit for him. Yeah, I want to

1:14:44

add a little spice. I think with

1:14:46

the coaching that he would get, and look,

1:14:48

he's had the same sort of coaching

1:14:50

his whole career, the best that he

1:14:52

looks is when he's on time, on

1:14:55

rhythm, when he has answers, this offense

1:14:57

will give you the chance. He doesn't

1:14:59

have to play right away. I could

1:15:01

see it. I think they're definitely in

1:15:04

the quarterback market in this class. And

1:15:06

so. Even if I'm not in love with

1:15:08

Sanders, now that it's fallen to me, I

1:15:10

didn't have to give up anything. This feels

1:15:12

like an okay spot for him, and I

1:15:14

think it's a good fit for his skill

1:15:16

set. So I'm gonna go ramshitter Sanders. Yeah,

1:15:19

after Ward, I consider the next group

1:15:21

of quarterbacks, which is like six of them,

1:15:23

all day two dark throws, that's all I've

1:15:25

considered. But this is the range of when

1:15:27

those day two dark throws, like. Yeah, when

1:15:29

people start throwing the darts. Way back in

1:15:31

the day, Lamar Jackson was kind of almost

1:15:33

a day too, Dart throw, they had to

1:15:36

trade back up to, you know. Take 32.

1:15:38

There's a few of them over there. Teddy

1:15:40

Bridgewater was one of those too. Right, which

1:15:42

is crazy because, you know, the Ravens stuck

1:15:44

Hayden Hearst first. I mean, there's a whole,

1:15:46

I know. It's a whole alternate universe where

1:15:49

they don't get Lamar Jackson because the Patriots

1:15:51

take them at 31 or something. There were

1:15:53

those rumors that year. Tom Brady was QB1

1:15:55

on everybody's boards. Yeah, then they took, yeah,

1:15:57

that's true. But I mean, there was. All

1:16:00

that week you were hearing that maybe was

1:16:02

total nonsense, but they took Sony Michelle and

1:16:04

he got his Super Bowl title. The Ravens

1:16:06

are up for you. Yeah, speaking to Lamar

1:16:09

Jackson. I'm gonna go Donovan Jackson, Ohio

1:16:11

State. Oh, we're just going with the

1:16:13

House State guys. Yeah, guy that. PlayGuard

1:16:15

bumped out the tackle a little bit after

1:16:17

Josh Simmons got her who you just mentioned

1:16:19

Actually had good tape at tackle surprisingly good

1:16:21

tape But guard is where he plays in

1:16:23

the NFL has length at least isn't this

1:16:25

a team that loves their traits at all

1:16:27

their positions? So now you get a guy

1:16:29

that has those traits But on top of

1:16:32

it has good film. I would even say

1:16:34

I love this range for him. I'm one

1:16:36

of the higher guys on him, but this

1:16:38

is I've very comfortable taking him here They

1:16:40

like their size on the offensive line I

1:16:42

think he is a long-term starter for them.

1:16:44

Don't want to say what's the, what would you

1:16:46

say at the beginning of the offensive line,

1:16:48

safe pick? Not saying safe pick, but I

1:16:51

think this guy has potential to be a

1:16:53

good starter for a while. And more actually

1:16:55

because he's so talented. He sounds like a

1:16:57

raven's pick and I was kind of locked

1:17:00

in on. Tyler Booker, the beefy guard as

1:17:02

my lion's pick, because he just feels like

1:17:04

a lion's pick, and I think they're going

1:17:06

to want to start building for the future,

1:17:09

that line is getting older. And yet, the

1:17:11

way the board's falling to me, I'm falling

1:17:13

to, and yet the way the board's

1:17:15

falling to me, I'm thinking about Matthew

1:17:18

Golden, they just made a comment how

1:17:20

expensive wide receivers are. I don't think

1:17:22

they're going to want to sign James

1:17:24

to a long-term contract. I think they're

1:17:26

going to give him. What would you

1:17:28

take between Booker and Matthew Golden

1:17:30

for the lions? I'm asking you. Oh,

1:17:33

I think Booker just feels like a

1:17:35

lion. So I'm going to go book. But it's

1:17:37

supposed to be what I'm going to do.

1:17:39

But I would too, because in this case,

1:17:41

I'm running the lions and I want to

1:17:43

keep right. I want to keep the. the idea

1:17:45

of what the lines are all about. They fall

1:17:47

in a lot of lines fans. I just base

1:17:50

this all off when I do clips about players

1:17:52

and I see which fan bases or you know

1:17:54

they all have the same thing. But a lot

1:17:56

of lines fans are smitten with Michael Williams who

1:17:58

has been long drafted. at this point, but

1:18:01

they are very smitten with Michael Williams

1:18:03

based on my Twitter feed. Yeah, you

1:18:05

could definitely see a second edge. I

1:18:08

spaced a little bit on one available.

1:18:10

You know, it's hard to keep who's

1:18:12

available. All right, commanders, you're up. Who's

1:18:14

available? Because they might need an edge.

1:18:17

Is that your guy from Boston College?

1:18:19

Yeah. Yeah, that's where I'm going with.

1:18:21

Donovan, as a Raku. Is that how

1:18:24

you say it? I think it. They've

1:18:26

done a little bit. Their off seasons

1:18:28

was very busy. But they signed Yvonne

1:18:31

Kinla, who I've had yet to be

1:18:33

high on. That's a defense interior guy,

1:18:35

who they say there might be an

1:18:37

elephant edge as well. But I still

1:18:40

think that they want juice on the

1:18:42

outside. I think this player is competitive,

1:18:44

which is what Dan Quinn loves. He

1:18:47

has some pastures chops. He's long. He's

1:18:49

not the tallest guy, but he's long.

1:18:51

He's not the tallest guy, but he's

1:18:53

long. Got some pastures movement. I think

1:18:56

this is just a guy no matter

1:18:58

what he's going to be a strong

1:19:00

contributor. I wish I didn't give that

1:19:03

away, you know, I gave you that

1:19:05

pick there because that would be the

1:19:07

perfect pick for the bills at 30.

1:19:10

I'm quite high on Jayden Higgins and

1:19:12

that would be an interesting guy to

1:19:14

add to that mix, but it maybe

1:19:16

is a little duplicative of Kian Coleman.

1:19:19

I don't really know. So I'm... I

1:19:21

mean, I'm gonna go Walter Nolan here,

1:19:23

because I do think they're looking defensive

1:19:26

line in general and put him with

1:19:28

the bill. It's the type of guy

1:19:30

that they tend to like, whether that's

1:19:33

always work for them or not. I

1:19:35

could see them go in Walter Nolan

1:19:37

defensive tackle. Mississippi, we've got two picks

1:19:39

to go. You got the Chiefs, I

1:19:42

got the Eagles. What are the Chiefs

1:19:44

gonna do? I just think the timeline

1:19:46

that they have, they just signed a

1:19:49

guy, the chiefs, I've gone off into

1:19:51

line here, I'm going, I almost went

1:19:53

tight end here and went Mason Taylor.

1:19:55

Almost, I just want to say, I

1:19:58

almost ended with a little splash, little

1:20:00

smoke bomb at the end, I really

1:20:02

like Mason Taylor, but, offense line. I

1:20:05

am going to go Josh Simmons over

1:20:07

banks, but I'm going to go just

1:20:09

because they want that left tackle. Andy

1:20:12

Reed probably dreams about burgers and left

1:20:14

tackles. And yes, they signed a guy

1:20:16

to maybe be a stopgap there, but

1:20:18

I think now they got a little

1:20:21

bit of path or a little bit

1:20:23

of leeway as Simmons comes back from

1:20:25

his knee exploding. But very talented player,

1:20:28

true left tackle, true upside of being

1:20:30

a very good left tackle actually because

1:20:32

of his athleticism movement, some character stuff

1:20:34

has cropped up. but the Chiefs do

1:20:37

not care about character, because anyone's been

1:20:39

paying attention. So that's why I think

1:20:41

they'd be comfortable with this. But yeah,

1:20:44

Simmons, Josh Simmons, Ohio State. Yeah, unfortunately

1:20:46

that is exactly, like that is a

1:20:48

Chiefs pick, which is, all right, let's

1:20:51

take the talented, maybe there's some injury

1:20:53

concerns, maybe there's some off-field concerns, like,

1:20:55

give me all your off-field concerns if

1:20:57

you're the Chiefs. That's just, it's just.

1:21:00

It's just how it goes. What they

1:21:02

do. I will go Mason Taylor, 32,

1:21:04

because to me, he is the natural

1:21:07

Dallas garter replacement. And I think Eagles

1:21:09

fans were, as they were getting ready

1:21:11

for this draft, was like, oh, Mason

1:21:13

Taylor would be a fun second round

1:21:16

pick to replace garter. I don't think

1:21:18

he's going to fall that far. I

1:21:20

don't have any other options that I

1:21:23

particularly like at 32. Maybe I'm just

1:21:25

not as studied up as I need

1:21:27

to be. And I do like this

1:21:30

gutter by the way. into a good

1:21:32

enough blocker or even a good blocker

1:21:34

like Goddard. Goddard didn't come in as

1:21:36

that guy. And so that's a position

1:21:39

that you're expecting development. You've seen it

1:21:41

from Taylor. The floor is high. Certainly

1:21:43

is gonna be able to play and

1:21:46

be a receiver. And then, you know,

1:21:48

year three, year four, you're hoping you

1:21:50

get that nasty out of him that

1:21:53

he reminds a lot of people of

1:21:55

Goddard. And it really sounds like Goddard

1:21:57

might not be on this roster next

1:21:59

year, which is surprising to me. Did

1:22:02

we? Yeah, did we? We nailed that.

1:22:04

We did. Oh, I thought you're saying

1:22:06

that we made it under a time

1:22:09

a lot. Oh, no. No, we're over

1:22:11

that but we did it we over

1:22:13

hit we finished it we spent time

1:22:15

together first my brain Like worked hard

1:22:18

to I want to do another mock.

1:22:20

We'll see we'll see if we do

1:22:22

maybe get the whole gang together and

1:22:25

we'll do one in the studio We

1:22:27

would not ask Nate Tice to do

1:22:29

any more work during draft season. He's

1:22:32

busy in draft week. He will definitely

1:22:34

be extra busy so I would not

1:22:36

ask you to be in LA for

1:22:38

draft week. Oh you know any NFL

1:22:41

network work Well, it's Yahoo, but I'm

1:22:43

trying to like, you know, say hi,

1:22:45

see what's over here. Yeah, say what's

1:22:48

up. That's interesting that Nate is not

1:22:50

allowed to gamble on football anymore because

1:22:52

he does. good morning football hits, like

1:22:54

once a week, you know, three to

1:22:57

three, you know, so it's like, there

1:22:59

should be a month. No, it's not

1:23:01

that, it's not true. But there should

1:23:04

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1:23:06

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1:23:08

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