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2:03

welcome to 40s and free agents.

2:06

I'm Greg Rosenthal here with America's

2:08

favorite draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah, one

2:10

of my favorite days of the

2:12

week, 40s and free agents day.

2:15

Although it has been a tough

2:17

week for one of us here.

2:19

Daniel, sad news, came across the

2:21

NFL. It came during the league

2:24

meeting that they will no longer

2:26

be using the chain gang. And

2:28

you know, Sony announced it and

2:30

you've built a... a nice little

2:33

career here on with Move the

2:35

Sticks as your Twitter handle. And what

2:37

are you gonna do now, buddy? Well,

2:39

first of all, I appreciate everybody reaching

2:41

out. You know, I'm not really ready

2:43

to talk about it at this point

2:45

in time. I just appreciate if you

2:47

respect my my and my podcast's privacy

2:49

during these tough moments, but I do

2:51

want to thank the outpouring of support

2:53

and love that we've received through on

2:55

what's been a pretty difficult week, Greg.

2:57

Yeah, but let's think of the real

2:59

victims here. You, you know, not the

3:01

poor gentleman on the sidelines who are

3:04

just going to be watching now. They're

3:06

still going to be there. They're insurance.

3:08

They're insurance guys now. You know what

3:10

I mean? If you need them, they're

3:12

going to be as reliable as ever,

3:14

waiting on call, ready to go, ready

3:16

to deliver. At least for one year.

3:18

And yeah, way back in the day,

3:20

I remember this good Twitter handle, move

3:22

the sticks popped popped up on Twitter.

3:24

Didn't reveal his name at first. I

3:26

had a lot of good analysis, but

3:28

I guess you can keep your name

3:30

That was hiding my name. What are

3:33

you talking about? Come on Go on,

3:35

you're ruining the vibe here. Let's do

3:37

a little news to start the show.

3:39

As we're starting to tape, we learned,

3:41

and yes, rest in peace to the

3:43

chain gang. They had a good run.

3:45

It's been a, it's been a hundred

3:47

years. Let's see if we get a

3:49

lot of footage there. There's a lot

3:51

of, everybody had shot that much footage

3:53

for the chain gang. It was pretty

3:55

amazing. We got some news on Thursday

3:57

morning that the page. are trading Joe

3:59

Milton and a seventh round pick to

4:01

the Cowboys for a fifth round pick.

4:04

The Cowboys just love giving up picks

4:06

for potential backup quarterbacks. They gave up

4:08

one for Trey Lance. He's no longer

4:10

even on the roster. So Joe Milton

4:12

has one year with the Patriots. He

4:14

ruins their chances of having the number

4:16

one overall pick because he beats the

4:18

bills in week 18 and then they

4:20

get a fifth round pick back for

4:22

it. What did you make of this?

4:24

Well, I mean look I don't blame

4:26

the Cowboys for trying to you know

4:28

upgrade the backup quarterback position after Cooper

4:30

Rush Walked out the door so Made

4:33

sense for them. I think with the

4:35

Patriots obviously Drake Mays that guy and

4:37

gonna be that guy going forward I

4:39

the only thing I would have thought

4:41

of from the Patriots standpoint is you

4:43

know you still have an offensive line

4:45

that's a little bit leaky so if

4:47

for some reason Drake may weren't to

4:49

be able to try it out there

4:51

for 17 weeks I think you get

4:53

an opportunity to display him again and

4:55

it may be that price even goes

4:57

up higher but you know look you

4:59

got a chance to to you know

5:02

get a nice pick form at this

5:04

point time with very little that he's

5:06

had to play you know it's hard

5:08

default the Patriots and I totally get

5:10

where the cowboys are getting a lot

5:12

of grief for this I mean, I've

5:14

never understood that. I remember having a

5:16

conversation with Howie Roseman a long time

5:18

ago about the value of the backup

5:20

quarterback and he's for the most part

5:22

has always had, you know, has always

5:24

paid that guy in that position. He's

5:26

like, I can't understand how, you know,

5:28

you could pay like some of these

5:31

other positions of lesser importance, this kind

5:33

of money, and then if our starting

5:35

quarterback goes down, we're cooked, like that's

5:37

it. Like, why would you not invest

5:39

in that? It was weird to me

5:41

the second Mike Rable took that job,

5:43

we immediately started hearing, like, hey, Joe

5:45

Milton could be available. So for whatever

5:47

reason, they just did not want to

5:49

keep him after one year. And he

5:51

looked dynamite in that one game. He

5:53

made a couple throws that made Taylor

5:55

Rap look flat-footed on this throw across

5:57

his body that ended up being. a

6:00

touchdown to Kendrick Born. He had another

6:02

throw down the sideline that was measured

6:04

as the fastest throw, I believe, in

6:06

NGS history. The defenders thought the play

6:08

was over and he gets a touchdown

6:10

out of it. They ended up calling

6:12

it back as a penalty. So I

6:14

don't know why they want to get

6:16

rid of him, but they got Josh

6:18

Dobbs and that'll be their backup quarterback.

6:20

It does feel like you need another

6:22

veteran in that room. But when I

6:24

started hearing the takers. say that, oh,

6:26

like, what does this mean when it

6:28

comes to Dak Prescott? Like, how about

6:31

those? Stop, stop. It's like, this is

6:33

one of those stories that if it

6:35

happened the second day of free agency,

6:37

it would have been 30th on the

6:39

rundown, but because there's nothing to talk

6:41

about right now, or we're leading the

6:43

show, although, I like Joe Milton. I

6:45

mean, you want me to give you

6:47

my Milton notes coming out, by the

6:49

way? I am curious about what you

6:51

thought of what you thought of, So

6:53

for people forget like Milton coming out

6:55

he was a little over six five

6:57

two hundred and thirty five pounds he's

7:00

got big hands like ten and a

7:02

quarter inch hands big old mitts ran

7:04

four six two to his pro day

7:06

so he's obviously height weight speed athleticism

7:08

six years in college he was 24

7:10

coming into the draft memory started Michigan

7:12

then goes to Tennessee huge huge arm

7:14

I thought he had quiet feet like

7:16

he's real comfortable back there his issue

7:18

and it would follow him through college

7:20

through you know those two stops was

7:22

he got a little stuck on his

7:24

first read and just wouldn't get deep

7:26

through progressions but like just go out

7:29

there and watch him throw him warmups

7:31

and watch him spend a football watch

7:33

him run around the talent was outrageous

7:35

and he was a very gifted runner

7:37

although he was a reluctant runner. But

7:39

that's a very gifted runner although he

7:41

was a reluctant runner coming out but

7:43

that's an reluctant runner although he was

7:45

a reluctant runner coming out but that's

7:47

an element to his game. and potential,

7:49

and then he just gave you a

7:51

little taste, just gave you a little

7:53

taste of it at the end of

7:55

the year last year, and you can

7:58

understand why teams are gonna always be

8:00

excited about that. It broke my son

8:02

Walker's heart. a big pre-season guy, Joe

8:04

Milton, put up some nice pre-season tape

8:06

too. So I'm not surprised that a

8:08

team was interested, at least for that

8:10

cheap pick. Let's talk a little bit

8:12

about the real news that came out

8:14

this week. DJ has got a new

8:16

top 50 prospects. I believe it's 4.0

8:18

that came out on Wednesday, not a

8:20

lot of crazy movement. In this, I'm

8:23

curious though, what is happening between 3.0.

8:25

which was I would say about a

8:27

month ago, maybe six weeks ago, like

8:29

what is happening? It was post combine

8:31

between then and now to get these

8:33

players moving. Yeah, I'm glad you asked that

8:35

because in full disclosure, I asked you to

8:37

ask me this question. I want to be

8:39

honest with everybody. You could have just pretended,

8:41

yeah. And no, I want to be truthful

8:43

and transparent here. I get this a lot,

8:46

which is they haven't played games in so

8:48

long. How do these guys move up and

8:50

down the board? And it's not specific to...

8:52

you know, just the media side of things.

8:54

This is what's going on with teams. Guys

8:56

are going to move. You try and anchor

8:58

the boards. You don't have wild swings on

9:01

there. But you are going to get more

9:03

information and you are going to have an

9:05

opportunity to watch more players. From my

9:07

side of things, the analogy that I, you

9:09

know, I think maybe this will make sense.

9:11

If you're of our generation, Greg, you probably

9:14

did this as a kid. You probably more

9:16

than me. Just, you know, maybe a little

9:18

bit closer on. You take, remember when you're a kid,

9:20

you'd have like a piggy bank, you'd have like

9:22

a place where you keep all your change, and

9:24

you'd dump all your change out, and then you

9:26

would sort it. You would take the quarters, the

9:28

dimes, the nickels, and you'd just separate them. That's

9:30

like the first part of the draft process. It's

9:32

like, these are all the draft process. It's like,

9:34

these are all the draft process. It's like, okay,

9:36

these are all the draft processes, it, it's, it's,

9:38

it's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,

9:40

that's, that's, that's, and you just separate them, that's,

9:42

that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, and you

9:44

just separate them, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,

9:46

that's, that's, that's, that You go through, it's like

9:48

a broad stroke. You get, you know, you know,

9:50

don't get as deep on the players, but I

9:52

can kind of put them in their clumps and

9:54

kind of put them there. And now later in

9:56

the process, I can go back and just, okay,

9:58

let me watch these targets. for these three receivers

10:01

that I have real close together. And then

10:03

that's where you get a little bit of

10:05

the movement. I don't know what you're trying

10:07

to say about me, though, that I'm doing

10:09

it more than you. Maybe that you were

10:12

growing up in the lap of luxury down

10:14

there in Southern California and you know, every

10:16

Tijuana, every Tijuana, every time we go on

10:18

a piggy bank. Every Tijuana, every Tijuana, every

10:21

time, every time we go on a piggy

10:23

banks, it doesn't get any better than that.

10:25

That's awesome. thing I saw, maybe see something

10:27

else. It happens, it absolutely happens. They think

10:29

that you just, whatever your first thought is,

10:32

that has to be gospel. Let's talk about

10:34

some of the big movements. Temik Millen dropped

10:36

to 18. It wasn't a dramatic drop. I

10:38

would say you've been a little lower than

10:40

consensus on him throughout if you kind of

10:43

look at the rest of the boards. And

10:45

he's still very high. You like him as

10:47

a top 20 player, which is great. But

10:49

he did start out as the top 20

10:52

wide wide receiver. And now he is the

10:54

fourth on your list. So I am kind

10:56

of curious in terms of stacking. You talked

10:58

about sorting the dime. So when we're sorting

11:00

these wide receivers, why has he fallen a

11:03

couple notches? Well a couple things I mean

11:05

first of all he wasn't I mean he's

11:07

big he's a big guy but not quite

11:09

as big as you thought initially he ran

11:11

okay didn't run great so that's the testing

11:14

side of it but that really wasn't it

11:16

for me it you know some of the

11:18

issues that I had with him is just

11:20

I wanted to see him be a little

11:23

more physical play with a little more urgency

11:25

be a little stronger you know work back

11:27

through the defenders a little more aggressively he

11:29

has got as you can see on the

11:31

clips unbelievable ball skills. Like he has got

11:34

a crazy catch radius that volleyball background. You

11:36

can see the coordination and the ability to

11:38

get up in the air and make plays.

11:40

I just thought it was more so about

11:43

what those other two guys did do with

11:45

Golden and Abuka. First of all, they both

11:47

ran really well, which that's that's nice, but

11:49

that really wasn't it. I thought both those

11:51

guys just played stronger, played firmer, played with

11:54

more urgency. I feel like I know exactly

11:56

what I'm getting with. and still has the

11:58

highest ceiling of those three guys. And if

12:00

you hit, you could really hit it. I

12:02

just thought I was a little more sure

12:05

in what I was buying with the other

12:07

two. Yeah, and they're all very close. Matthew

12:09

Golden from Texas is at 16. Amika Bukka

12:11

at 17 from Ohio State. I'm with you.

12:14

You can kind of see those two receivers

12:16

and you just know they're gonna be rotation

12:18

solid second third receivers. Whatever it's gonna be,

12:20

they're gonna play in the NFL or McMill.

12:22

I'd be tempted, I'm just throwing this out

12:25

there, and I know he's not even in

12:27

your top 50, I'd be tempted if you're

12:29

into the McMillan archetype. I like Jay Higgins.

12:31

Take him in the second round. I'm a

12:33

Higgins guy, I like Higgins a lot too,

12:36

and Higgins, you know, it's funny, I like

12:38

Higgins a lot too, and Higgins, you know,

12:40

it's funny, you know, it's funny, I like

12:42

Higgins a lot too, and Higgins, you know,

12:45

you know, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's,

12:47

it's, it's funny, it's funny, it's funny, it's

12:49

funny, it's funny, it's funny, and, it's funny,

12:51

it's funny, it's funny, it's funny, it's funny,

12:53

it's funny, it's funny, it's funny, it's funny,

12:56

it's funny, it's funny, it's funny, it's funny,

12:58

it's funny, it's funny, it's funny, it's Higgins

13:00

does compete for the ball a little bit

13:02

more. He draws a ton of a ton

13:04

of DPIs because of how competitive and physical

13:07

he is. He's not quite as smooth and

13:09

as polished a mover is McMillan, but he's

13:11

stronger, firmer, tougher. So there's an argument that

13:13

I think you could make there and I

13:16

would go out and a limb and say

13:18

I think some teams will have it that

13:20

way that he actually would be over McMillan

13:22

on some boards. Breaking news, your son's in

13:24

the in the scouting department, you're gonna try

13:27

to replace me at some point here on

13:29

40s and free agents? No, no, no, he

13:31

does the scouting, like the real football side,

13:33

let's talk about Jackson Dart. He's up four

13:35

spots to number 36. Yeah, since our last

13:38

show, I got to admit, it's the first

13:40

time I've actually watched a lot of Jackson

13:42

Dart. I get why he's there. I have

13:44

no problem with where you're putting him, because

13:47

to me, you see the athleticism is awesome.

13:49

You can throw it. You can see a

13:51

team falling in love with him. But if

13:53

I had a criticism, it's like, you don't

13:55

see a lot of... a lot of quarterbacky

13:58

stuff to you. It's a lot of one

14:00

read, it's a lot of system specific, and

14:02

you can see if he gets with the

14:04

right coach. How do you rank a guy

14:07

maybe that you haven't seen him do a

14:09

lot of the stuff that you need to

14:11

see at the next level? Like are you

14:13

asking around about how he can pick up

14:15

stuff? Because you don't necessarily see it with

14:18

him on the film. Yeah, I

14:20

think it's hard to find any colleges nowadays

14:22

that do that. I mean we have this

14:24

discussion with guys every year last year was

14:26

bow necks It's just a lot of pick

14:28

and stick, you know, like the ball's out

14:30

You just you know, they have a lot

14:32

of stuff predetermined quick hitters balls gone Which

14:34

Jackson dart it's a lot of as we're

14:36

seeing on the highlights here. It's a lot

14:39

of shot plays. It's a lot of schemed

14:41

up winners There are opportunities where you see

14:43

him get from one to two, but you

14:45

know, it's not reading things all the all

14:47

the way out But gosh Greg, there's just

14:49

not many times you see quarterbacks do that

14:51

anymore. So it's always going to be a

14:53

little bit of faith. It's always going to

14:55

be important to go through the meeting process,

14:57

give him information, see how he absorbs it,

15:00

and things like that. But you don't ever,

15:02

as we saw last year with Caleb, is

15:04

highly regarded as he was. There's still some

15:06

faith and hope involved here once you get

15:08

these guys in the building, because in college

15:10

you're just not going to be asked to

15:12

do all that stuff. And I see you

15:14

have been throwing out the Jaylon Hurts comp.

15:16

I do that around to some people. I

15:18

will say Jaylon Hurts as a runner in

15:20

college was a little next level. Just saying,

15:23

as an athlete. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's all.

15:25

Of course, yeah, but. If you look at

15:27

a lot of the traits that they do

15:29

share, they have the same type of a

15:31

build. They're sturdy, strong guys. They're ultra-ultra-competitive. They're

15:33

not looking to run out of bounds. Either

15:35

one of them, they're gonna fight you for

15:37

yards. They each got better throughout their college

15:39

career. Hertz was a son of a coach

15:41

who the makeup and everything was off the

15:43

charts, everything I've heard from that standpoint, off

15:46

the charts. So that's where the similarities with

15:48

Hertz come in. I see the vision. I

15:50

think you got them in the right spot.

15:52

It might be a little rich to take

15:54

them too early, but if you're getting them

15:56

at the back of the first round or

15:58

the second round, that makes a lot of

16:00

sense to try to develop them. cornerback moves.

16:02

I saw Benjamin Morrison, not a guy who's

16:04

been getting a lot of pop moves up

16:06

from cornerback 7 to cornerback 5. But

16:09

I actually wanted to ask you about

16:11

Will Johnson. So he fell down one

16:13

spot to 14. And he's someone I

16:15

just wanted to ask a bigger

16:18

picture question while I got you. If

16:20

you just went off his 2023 tape, I

16:22

would guess he would be higher on

16:24

this list. So how do you like

16:26

evaluate a guy that was so electric?

16:28

a year ago, so you know it's there

16:30

for him with maybe the tape he

16:33

put out this year that wasn't as

16:35

good. Because to me, I don't know,

16:37

I would go with last year's

16:39

tape and just grade off that,

16:41

that's what I would do. No, and

16:43

then Stingley would be the argument

16:45

there, right? You know, because Stingley

16:48

didn't see much of him as

16:50

last year at LSU, and there

16:52

were some questions and concerns about

16:55

him from a tackling standpoint. You

16:57

know, to me it was a little bit

16:59

of the collective of he's had some injuries

17:01

throughout his career. I don't know, I mean,

17:03

Stingly is a four three guy. He doesn't

17:05

have that type of juice, that type of

17:07

top speed, but he's got, you know, the

17:10

size, the length, the ball skills, the awareness,

17:12

outstanding. And that's why he's, he is where

17:14

he is on my list, which is pretty

17:16

darn high. I mean, he's a top 15

17:18

player on my board. But I do think

17:20

you can't just throw out what you saw

17:22

this year, which to me was gosh, there's

17:24

a couple times he got stretched vertically and

17:26

I had some questions about the speed. Now

17:28

he has a pro day scheduled for I

17:31

think a couple weeks from now. And that's

17:33

one, it's a big one for me because if he

17:35

goes out there and actually runs. and he puts anything

17:37

in the four fours in there like that can that

17:39

can be enough for me to kind of move him

17:41

up a couple spots but that's my that's my lingering

17:43

question that I have and I'm there I know there's

17:46

a lot of people in the league that are that

17:48

are believe it when they see it when he runs

17:50

a 40 that they're kind of like this is there's

17:52

a lot of guys who have later pro days and

17:54

then it's you know what I'm a little tight I'm

17:56

gonna do the field workout I'm gonna do the field

17:58

workout the field workout Ryan

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28:04

Easy going guy likes to have fun

28:06

and just You know hang out with

28:08

friends I have a dog you know

28:10

a puggle a lot of people don't

28:12

know about those yet but I have

28:14

a puggle and you know just like

28:17

to hang out and just relax. It's

28:19

a mix between a pug and a

28:21

beagle. It's pretty weird, but a lot

28:23

of people starting to get them now,

28:25

so I think I started a trend.

28:27

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the trend, the

28:29

first time you ever said trend or

28:32

you always been a trend center? You

28:34

know, I try to set a trend

28:36

in LA with the dreads. It's not

28:38

really working too well right now, but

28:40

I think it might come in a

28:42

little bit later, so. Oh, that is

28:45

fantastic. I've never seen that before. That

28:47

is from 2006. That's our guest. That

28:49

was his first interview at the Combine

28:51

with NFL Network. Who knew he would

28:53

be working with us all those years

28:55

later? Did you make the dreads a

28:57

trend? Like, they're no longer there. Obviously,

29:00

we see our colleague and co-worker Mike

29:02

Rob have dreads. So I feel like,

29:04

you know, it kind of went a

29:06

little more national. We thought it was

29:08

just going to be a LA thing,

29:10

and it kind of blew up to

29:12

more of a national thing. So, uh...

29:15

Hey, it is what it is. You

29:17

know, the puggle, the puggle thing blew

29:19

up though. The puggle thing, like I

29:21

want to say parents, I've never heard

29:23

of the puggle, dude. It was like

29:25

crazy. I think she saw that interview

29:28

was like, let me see what this

29:30

little things about. Wasn't the prettiest dog?

29:32

But you know how like pretty people

29:34

get ugly dogs? Is this like the

29:36

Paris Hilton, like Nicole Ritchie? Yes. Like

29:38

is this like those days? Okay. Those

29:40

days. And so we were trying to,

29:43

because I was, I was a handsome

29:45

guy, that I had to have a

29:47

puggle to balance, balance out that he

29:49

was ugly. So I was handsome, so

29:51

I was handsome, made, created balance. But

29:53

it isn't. That's what you're bringing up.

29:56

Good looks loose loose definition of personality

29:58

on that one, by the way MD

30:00

one of my favorite people At NFL

30:02

network We do the games for the

30:04

international audience on Monday night, but he

30:06

is a running back through and through

30:08

He's a running back expert and the

30:11

assignment desk put him on the case

30:13

to make some running back rankings. So

30:15

we're just going to talk running back.

30:17

This is kind of the running back

30:19

show, Maurice, but we're going to put

30:21

up the four guys that you said

30:23

were day one starters for this draft.

30:26

That's Ashton Gente. No surprise here. Trevian

30:28

Henderson from Ohio State. Quinch on Junkant,

30:30

his teammate from Ohio State. All guys

30:32

that are in DJ's top 40. And

30:34

then a little bit of a surprise

30:36

here. Cam Scadaboo as the fourth guy

30:39

on your list. And you actually have

30:41

him ranked the head. of Judken. So

30:43

let's just have a scadaboo conversation. It's

30:45

been too long. Like why is he

30:47

in that that tier for you? So

30:49

two things being from the Bay Area.

30:51

I have a lot of friends that

30:54

know him that have watched when he

30:56

was at Sac State that kind of

30:58

followed his career from the North Bay

31:00

all the way to Arizona State and

31:02

everyone's like you got to watch this

31:04

kid. You got to tell us about

31:07

him. So I tried to hold off

31:09

because you don't want the outside influence.

31:11

But when you turn on the outside

31:13

influence, he's just a period point blank

31:15

there's nothing about his game that you

31:17

don't like obviously doesn't have the long

31:19

speed but you can see this right

31:22

there the short area quickness the contact

31:24

balance the competitive spirit he finishes every

31:26

run he's tough to tackle and then

31:28

listen to this DJ this is the

31:30

one thing I've always tried to tell

31:32

people look at the college playoffs which

31:35

teams had success right the ones that

31:37

had tough running backs and you look

31:39

at this this dude here took over

31:41

the Texas game I mean who doesn't

31:43

want this I just like and this

31:45

is not even looking at anything else

31:47

just watching tape I found myself late

31:50

at night watching scattabow tape that play

31:52

right there is really what kind of

31:54

took me over the top the way

31:56

he finishes runs I mean it's just

31:58

he can play an any system that

32:00

you want him in. He doesn't, again,

32:02

the long speed is a concern, but

32:05

to me, he can go to anywhere

32:07

and start right now, be a third

32:09

down back, pick up blitzes, everything

32:11

you're looking for. I want

32:13

to jump on this MJD, so I'm

32:15

going to give you something to aid your

32:17

argument here. So they question,

32:20

did Arizona State win their

32:22

conference, the big 12? I have no

32:24

idea. They did they did they

32:26

won the conference. They made the

32:29

playoff they almost knocked out Texas

32:31

Do you know how many of

32:33

cam scattaboos teammates got combine

32:36

invitations? Zero One man

32:38

banned and he almost they almost took

32:40

down Texas if they don't get a

32:42

fourth down conversion late in that game.

32:44

They move on. They take out Texas

32:46

and literally I I don't know if

32:48

I've ever seen a team, especially with

32:50

this new, obviously it's new, with this

32:53

new playoff, but as competitive as college

32:55

football is, and as much as, you

32:57

know, the powerhouse programs have been able

32:59

to coalesce talent, like we've never seen

33:01

it like this, you see it in

33:03

the final four right now, like, this was

33:05

a one man, been it had one combine

33:07

invitation, it was him. And he almost bowled

33:09

his way through the Texas Longhorns with a

33:12

stacked roster. That's a big feather in his

33:14

cap for sure. Well, the other part is

33:16

this too. He could catch the ball out

33:18

of the back field and he can run

33:20

routes like a wide receiver. Like I said,

33:23

he does everything. And I guess watching all

33:25

these running backs, I've talked to probably

33:27

12 running back coaches in the NFL. And

33:29

they all look at me crazy. But then

33:31

when they go and watch the tape, they're

33:34

like, this is what you're looking for

33:36

in a running back. Right, this

33:38

is, this is the vision, the

33:40

short area quickness, the ability to

33:43

break tackles to push guys forward,

33:45

finish four, everything that you want

33:47

in a running back, Scatubo

33:50

has. I agree, like the

33:52

creativity, the vision, like he makes

33:54

space, I think more than than

33:56

some of the guys that are ranked

33:58

highly. I'm with MJ. the tie here.

34:00

I would put him over Trevian Henderson. I

34:02

would put him over Quinn shot Juckins. And

34:05

I know you look at him and you

34:07

think there are maybe bigger, faster, stronger, whatever

34:09

like that. You can't say that you're splitting

34:11

the tie when MJD agrees with me and

34:13

has Trevian Henderson overscatter. That's one. So you're

34:15

losing. There's three boxes. Two of them have

34:17

one guy, one has the other. You're on

34:19

the wrong side. It doesn't matter. My point

34:22

is that he is he is up there

34:24

like MJD has him in his top four

34:26

He has him as a true day one

34:28

started type of guy. You don't have him

34:30

in the top 50 To me, he might

34:32

be a lot of. I don't think he's

34:34

going to go in the top 50. Yeah,

34:36

I don't think he's going to go in

34:39

the top 50. But I think he's a

34:41

I think he's a really good player. He's

34:43

just outside that for me. I think he's

34:45

gonna I think he's most likely going to

34:47

go in the third round. And I agree

34:49

that he does all those things well. He

34:51

does not have the juice that go in

34:54

the top three rounds. It doesn't mean he's

34:56

not going to be a great. It's so

34:58

funny, when I do the rankings, it's not

35:00

about where they get drafted. It's about. Of

35:02

course. Of course. Right. Where they're playing. I

35:04

think that's where it gets twisted because this

35:06

is a draft show, right? So it's like,

35:08

well, why don't you have a Marian Hampton?

35:11

He's going to get drafted. I actually have

35:13

a long drive going to Denver later in

35:15

the thing. So it's not that the kid

35:17

is just when you look at his tape,

35:19

Scatabos tape and you look at Hampton tape,

35:21

completely different players. and a completely different running

35:23

back to me that I think scataboe kind

35:25

of just shows a little bit more. Now

35:28

you said, Trebion Henderson, listen, off of just

35:30

past blocking period, he's, he's, he almost, number

35:32

one animal, he almost, he freaking, he almost,

35:34

MJ, Sean marrying some dudes in, in that

35:36

tape, like he attacks dudes, like, I've seen

35:38

guys, I've seen guys go between that guard

35:40

and tackle gap, and then they're nowhere to

35:42

be found after that, like, like, like, like,

35:45

like, like, like, Before I do the rankings

35:47

I kind of call some of my mentors

35:49

and old coaches and see to a man,

35:51

every coach that I talk to that watched

35:53

his tape was like, he's number one on

35:55

the board, this off of past blocking in

35:57

general. Wow, right? Because again, you gotta protect

36:00

the money, you gotta protect the quarterback, you

36:02

know right away that he has the will,

36:04

he has the want to, and he knows

36:06

where he's going with the, you've seen them

36:08

scan, he'll scan back from right to left

36:10

and pick up guys, like that alone just

36:12

off of. Not even touching the ball, they

36:14

were like, he's a top guy on our

36:17

board just because of that. Yeah, I don't,

36:19

I don't think he's as creative like making

36:21

guys miss, but he's good enough. He's big

36:23

fast drunk. Like I get it. Why he's

36:25

a home run hitter. Right, would be so

36:27

high. And yet. Home run hitting I feel

36:29

like it's a little overrated it's a lot

36:31

about I doesn't have the long speed that

36:34

that comes up a handful of runs every

36:36

year and it's nice if your guy can

36:38

go 65 in like like MJD used to

36:40

do instead of 40 but you're happy with

36:42

that 40 and the guys that you say

36:44

don't get taken in the first three rounds

36:46

a lot of times like a chiron Williams

36:48

or I guess you went third round but

36:51

not not early those are the guys that

36:53

are more effective on a down-to-down down basis

36:55

and that's why I like I also think

36:57

though To me, I think it's become more

36:59

important to have to have some juice. And

37:01

I think that to me, when you see

37:03

as much too high safety stuff, and it's

37:05

not, I know, Greg, you're talking about like,

37:08

okay, turning a 40 into a 60, not

37:10

with too high safety, I'm talking about turning

37:12

a four into a 12, like just like

37:14

those yards, if you got somebody that can

37:16

go get them right now, I think there

37:18

is value in having guys. And I think

37:20

Jimmeer Gibbs obviously what he's, obviously, obviously, what

37:23

he's, obviously, obviously, what he's meant, easier said

37:25

than done, but people are trying to find

37:27

that. They're trying to find that type of

37:29

juice and burst to add into their offense

37:31

knowing we're gonna get these lighter boxes and

37:33

stuff so I don't want a guy to

37:35

kind of plow his way through and get

37:37

me five yards. I think these guys can

37:40

can make up for some of the explosives

37:42

I'm missing in the passing game because they

37:44

put a roof on everything. That's a good

37:46

point. You have a future in this business.

37:48

I like that point. You kind of convinced

37:50

me. You kind of convinced me. Hold on,

37:52

I'm cutting you off, because I want to

37:54

ask MJD one thing, because I'm always looking

37:57

for new scout terms. So when pass protection,

37:59

like when he hits guys, you'll hear guys

38:01

always say like it was a yard sale,

38:03

right? You know, like the earpiece going all,

38:05

like the guy just, he just hits them

38:07

and it looks like a yard sale. With

38:09

him, I watched it and I was like,

38:11

I can't even say this in report because

38:14

it can't, it looks like the matrix, it

38:16

looks like, it looks like, oh my like,

38:18

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like

38:20

just kind of like, like, like, like, like,

38:22

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

38:24

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

38:26

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

38:29

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

38:31

like, like, like, like, I don't even know.

38:33

It was some guy ran in between the

38:35

B gap. And you had showed it on

38:37

like Instagram. And he hit this kid. And

38:39

I was like, someone go check on him.

38:41

Like, and the kid granted, he got up

38:43

and he kind of did his thing, but

38:46

he took football. That's a great, this is

38:48

a great term that they say, you take

38:50

a little football out of people when you

38:52

hit him a certain way. Trayvon Henderson takes

38:54

football out of kids every time he passed

38:56

box. I mean, like, you're not going to

38:58

rush the same way. You're not going to

39:00

blitz with the same intent. You're going to

39:03

be looking for him as you, again, like,

39:05

he's coming and you can't see him from

39:07

all these big limin that he comes out

39:09

of nowhere and he's just like, yeah. It's

39:11

like, oh, so I don't know, man, I

39:13

love that part of his game. Like I

39:15

said before, that alone almost had him up

39:17

there tier tier tier with a with a

39:20

with a with a, with gente, with gente,

39:22

with gente, with gente, obviously. Where did you,

39:24

I know, Greg, I'm hijacking your hair, but

39:26

I know we're probably supposed to get into

39:28

this, I'm gonna go off. But where did

39:30

you have him go in your mock? There

39:32

you go, you gotta go to the Bears.

39:35

See, see, and I honestly, and I'm sure

39:37

you'll probably get some bullback on that, it

39:39

feels a lot like Jimmeer Gibbs, where like

39:41

I had him ranked, and I'm like, gosh,

39:43

I love Trava, I, I love. on the

39:45

day after the draft and he was the

39:47

10th pick like I wouldn't I wouldn't shock

39:49

me at all. Okay so I'm gonna break

39:52

some news for you I'm not saying that

39:54

they're gonna do that or not but the

39:56

running back coach Chicago Bears Texas me in

39:58

the middle of the night all the time.

40:00

about certain people. And we've had a

40:02

good 30 minute conversation about his

40:04

blitz pickup and that certain running

40:06

back coaches, Eric Bieneme, who coach

40:09

me in college. And his number

40:11

one rule was if you can't

40:13

block, you can't play. So I can tell

40:15

you right now, no rock. Yeah, no blockie,

40:17

no rocky. And we're just showing his

40:19

his ability here to make guys miss

40:21

and his patience. And he has all

40:24

that good stuff. But. I've talked to

40:26

a bunch of running back coaches from

40:28

all teams, college coaches. Everyone talks about

40:30

his past pro. And to me, we know in

40:32

the NFL, look, it's one thing to be able

40:34

to do something with the ball, but where

40:36

you really separate yourself in the NFL

40:38

is what you do without the ball. And

40:40

that ability to protect Caleb Williams, again,

40:43

a lot of my mock draft was

40:45

about protecting the quarterback or helping the

40:47

quarterback. Well if you're talking about Caleb

40:49

Williams who got sacked a gazillion times,

40:51

people were blitzing them, you put a

40:54

running back in there that you know

40:56

and wants to go and pick up

40:58

blitzes, you got a good third down back

41:00

then going and stepping right away for

41:02

you. As they like to say, Greg,

41:04

that's the last but between you and

41:06

the defense is the running back. So

41:09

I prefer him to be able to

41:11

block. I mean, you could see that

41:13

he's gonna have a role right away.

41:15

You gotta be worried a little bit.

41:17

MJD, if Eric B. enemy listens to

41:20

40s and free agents, whether

41:22

you're still gonna be getting

41:24

these texts late at night. Oh,

41:26

it's all good. I mean, it's

41:28

my guy. You know, we were at

41:30

UCLA, didn't work out. I'm really

41:33

sad about that, but he's still,

41:35

you know, a guy that I

41:37

lean on a lot. So if they take

41:39

him 10, that would be interesting. He did

41:41

have some nagging injuries. He was never

41:43

the guy at Ohio State was always sharing

41:45

the work loads. You haven't seen that. And

41:47

where I disagree with you the most on

41:49

your rankings, MD, and I like that you're

41:51

not trying to be like the consensus, you're

41:54

clearly just saying what you believe. And that's

41:56

more accurate for I think how evaluators are

41:58

around the league. There's a lot. more disagreement

42:00

than I think we see in some

42:02

of these consensus boards and everything but

42:04

you have Hampton buried fairly low and

42:06

DJ was talking about how you need

42:09

some juice at the position and I

42:11

look at Amari and Hampton and I

42:13

think man it's not always the type

42:15

that I love but you see it

42:17

I could see him going number 10

42:19

to the bears because that to me

42:21

looks more like a guy with next

42:23

level ability as a runner and he

42:26

made some of those opponents in the

42:28

ACC look like children among men and

42:30

he was the man. No, I listen,

42:32

I tell people all the time again,

42:34

this isn't, those rankings are just what

42:36

I see and how I see it.

42:38

I know he had a great season,

42:40

but it's tough when you see a

42:43

fellow running through gaping holes a lot

42:45

and a lot of it is scheme-based,

42:47

right? My concerns with Hampton were just

42:49

his start and stop. He's not a,

42:51

he's a guy that has to be

42:53

on the track. He's going to be

42:55

tough to tackle. when he has to

42:57

stop his feet is hard for him

43:00

to kind of get back going again.

43:02

It reminds me a lot of Derek

43:04

Henry and the reason I and I

43:06

want people to understand this I had

43:08

Derek Henry ranked high because Derek Henry

43:10

was six four two hundred fifty pounds

43:12

ran a four or five and when

43:14

he's on this track Derek Henry is

43:17

hard to stop but if you ever

43:19

notice when people get around his feet

43:21

and he has to stop his feet

43:23

he gets tackled very easily and I

43:25

saw a lot of that with Hampton

43:27

and again it's not to knock what

43:29

he's just The NFL is such a

43:32

start stop league, especially at the running

43:34

back position with stunts and the way

43:36

defenses are firing and blitzing and doing

43:38

different things. You just have to be

43:40

able to start and stop a little

43:42

bit more. And again, if you get

43:44

with the team that, you know, if

43:46

he goes to the Broncos, Sean Payton

43:49

did a great job with Mark Ingram,

43:51

who was very similar, where you get

43:53

him downhill, you get them rolling a

43:55

little bit, that goes. But it was

43:57

just, for me, it was a starting

43:59

stop that really hampered me was a

44:01

starting stop that really hampered me to

44:03

have to have to have them at

44:06

number seven. How would you compare him

44:08

personally to Jonathan Taylor when he was

44:10

coming out? Oh, so I had Jonathan

44:12

Taylor I had him at six. I

44:14

had Jonathan Tanner at six and people

44:16

thought I was crazy. But again, it's

44:18

about the system fit that you have

44:20

to go to. Jonathan Taylor looked at

44:23

that's my point. He went to the

44:25

Colts. They had a great offensive line.

44:27

Jonathan Taylor, when he stops his feet,

44:29

not as good compared to some of

44:31

the other guys, but he's a guy

44:33

that's a grease runner. Right. Exactly. And

44:35

so when you get him to where

44:37

he doesn't have to stop, he's one

44:40

of the best. But I don't know

44:42

where he's going to go. And if

44:44

you're just watching the tape, you're saying,

44:46

look, do we have the offensive line

44:48

to create holes? Or like, what kind

44:50

of, what is it? Again, when he's

44:52

on his track, no one's tackling him.

44:54

It's just when he has to stop

44:57

his feet or like a guy flashes

44:59

in front of him, he's easier to

45:01

tackle. Right. I think you have to

45:03

be special to be an exception and

45:05

be that style of back and make

45:07

it work, but he looks like he

45:09

could be in that category where he

45:11

is the exception. just bouncing off him

45:14

at time. I thought he was pretty

45:16

good at picking a hole, but like

45:18

if he lands with the team like

45:20

the Rams, like I could see him

45:22

like Todd Gurley running down the field.

45:24

Not that he would, I don't think

45:26

the Rams are looking for a running

45:28

back, but that style of offense. I

45:31

was looking at him with the other

45:33

LA team as a complement to Naji

45:35

because they want to play physically. Those

45:37

are two physical backs, but two different

45:39

backs, but two different backs. let those

45:41

guys get creases. To me it would

45:43

be like, you almost have Naji kind

45:45

of body blowing people to death and

45:48

all of a sudden that crease Hampton

45:50

hits that crease and he's gone. Well,

45:52

that's why I sent him to the

45:54

Broncos. I sent him to the Broncos

45:56

just real quick, Greg, just because if

45:58

you look at their running game, it's

46:00

a lot of downhill, they have really,

46:02

they're really strong interior guard to guard.

46:05

You can kind of get him going

46:07

and mow people down and mow people

46:09

down. And we know how it. even

46:11

when they won their last championship with

46:13

Peyton Manning, CJ Anderson was killing people,

46:15

right? So if you can get a

46:17

good running game, go. there you have

46:19

a great opportunity and then obviously with

46:22

Williams going to the cowboys I thought

46:24

that was a good slot. Shout out

46:26

to C.J. Anderson. I love a good

46:28

random like Super Bowl run solid for

46:30

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46:32

Sony Michelle? Yeah, you could have had

46:34

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46:36

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46:39

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46:41

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46:47

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46:49

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46:51

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love for Caleb Johnson for you from

50:12

Iowa, Maurice. This is the one top

50:14

50 guy that we haven't really talked

50:16

about. You have him at 45 DJ.

50:18

Another guy that might depend on the

50:20

scheme a little bit, if he gets

50:22

in a zone scheme, seems like that

50:25

would be a good fit. Well, again,

50:27

I think that's the tier that you

50:29

see guys in. When you're, when you,

50:31

if you can't play in every system,

50:33

you can't be explosive in every system,

50:35

it's gonna be tough. To me, this

50:37

guy, got with the great system and

50:39

became one of the best running backs

50:41

that I had to compete against came

50:43

one of the top RBs in the

50:45

NFL for for multiple years. The thing

50:47

that I have with Caleb is there's

50:50

just no change of pace right there's

50:52

no when he goes it's the same

50:54

pace throughout there is no like if

50:56

you watch a R. J. Harvey or

50:58

if you watch and ask Gente or

51:00

if you watch any of the guys.

51:02

There's a there's a change of there's

51:04

a change of pace when they take

51:06

off with Caleb is kind of the

51:08

same pace which is kind of the

51:10

same pace which is kind of the

51:12

same pace which is for the zone

51:15

system. And I think, again, I've talked

51:17

to a lot of coaches around the

51:19

league and they all see the same

51:21

thing. Like, he has a great job

51:23

of being patient. His long stride, his

51:25

style fits more of a zone system,

51:27

which a lot of the league runs,

51:29

but not everyone. And so when everyone

51:31

doesn't run it, you can't fit everyone's

51:33

system. To me, you drop down a

51:35

little bit. I love the fact obviously

51:37

as you played and in this role

51:40

now where you're having to do what

51:42

you do on the scouting set of

51:44

teams, which is rank teams, rank players.

51:46

I think you appreciate it that when

51:48

you don't have a scheme or a

51:50

team and you're asked to stack players

51:52

and then you can be held accountable

51:54

for this player did well and this

51:56

player didn't. I'm like, yeah, but I

51:58

don't know the fit like. That's not

52:00

the right fit or this is a

52:02

perfect fit for this guy. That's why

52:05

he's gonna do really well. That's one

52:07

of the challenges I don't think that

52:09

like the people from the outside that

52:11

don't make rankings and Greg has to

52:13

do it in free agency as well.

52:15

That and I'm not saying like, oh,

52:17

just absolve us of every bad ranking

52:20

we've ever had. But it is

52:22

a challenge when you're not with

52:24

a specific team when you're stacking

52:26

players. I go. He's playing at Wisconsin and the size of

52:28

this room, I mean, those are the kind of holes he

52:30

was running through like, they're like five, six foot holes. He's

52:32

right. He has a, MJD has a big house if you

52:35

don't know. So that's a big room. But go ahead. But

52:37

anyways, I'm just saying, and then so what if he went

52:39

to New York where there weren't as big of holes or

52:41

what if he went to the Jets where they struggled running

52:43

the football, right? And then all of a sudden he

52:45

goes to the he goes to the Colts and he

52:47

goes to the Colts and he goes to the Colts

52:49

and everyone's like, and everyone's like, like, like, Well yeah

52:51

if I would have known he was going to the

52:54

Colts I would for sure put him in the top

52:56

one or two because they had a great offensive light

52:58

at that point right and so it's just one of

53:00

those things like you said you're trying to figure it

53:02

out but like I said with Caleb I thought

53:04

he was very productive the seeing the system fit

53:06

him what he was doing and and if you're

53:08

the NFL that's what you're going to look at

53:10

like does he fit our system that's how we're

53:12

going to write guys I'm not going to put

53:15

Caleb into a Caleb into a you know. I don't

53:17

know, a downhill Baltimore Ravens system,

53:19

that may not fit what he

53:21

does, right? He's more of an

53:23

outside zone. He's gonna press the

53:25

whole cut. He's to see the whole,

53:27

he has great vision, he has, he's

53:29

a great feel for finding the wave

53:31

and following the double teams. And

53:33

that's what you wanna get him into.

53:35

I mean, you better have a big house.

53:38

What was that holdout for with the

53:40

Jaguars if you don't? I mean, you

53:42

earned it. There's two types of people

53:44

in this world, Greg. There's a type of

53:46

people that have to go get their hair cut

53:48

and there's a type of people that haven't come

53:50

to your house and cut your hair. I'm just

53:52

saying MJD's. I go to the shop every day.

53:54

I go to the shop. I go to the

53:56

shop. I just got really. I'm a shop guy.

53:58

You see my line? Where's. This is a shop

54:01

on your property, by the way. Is

54:03

that towards the back of the property?

54:05

Yeah, I wish. I wish. We're supposed

54:07

to talk about your mock draft, and

54:09

we will. But this is the only

54:11

time we're going to get deep into

54:13

the runnybacks of this show, and you

54:16

have such a great eye for it.

54:18

This is fun, man. I could tell

54:20

DJ, um, is really... lightning up when

54:22

he has someone that he actually respects

54:24

to talk to on this show. So

54:26

let's talk about some of these running

54:28

backs that you like that are pretty

54:30

high on your rankings. DJ Giddens from

54:32

Kansas State and R. J. Harvey from

54:35

U. C. average. You were excited about

54:37

R. G. Harvey. You have him five

54:39

and six on your rankings. So just

54:41

give me a little flavor of why

54:43

you like these guys. I mean, I

54:45

don't know. Has anyone here ever driven

54:47

a stick? Any ever hear of a

54:49

driven a stick? Yeah, my first three

54:52

cars were all sticks. Yeah, yeah, me

54:54

too. Like, you know how you can

54:56

control the car and you can slow

54:58

it down and you can get it

55:00

going if you want to race. Like

55:02

I was like a young kid racing

55:04

people in my little day woo that

55:06

I had. Probably was like a little

55:09

day woo that I had. Probably was

55:11

like a B4, but I was making

55:13

it sound like a B4. When you

55:15

watch his tape, again, it's about the

55:17

tape, but I know we're going to

55:19

show some B-roll here. When he gets

55:21

going, when he decides to go, it

55:23

is good night. And you talked about,

55:25

and D.J. is talking about, and D.J.

55:28

is talking about juice, that's all this

55:30

is, you know, and D.J. is talking

55:32

about juice. That's all this is. Yeah.

55:34

That's all this is. That's all this

55:36

is. Harvey just so we get do

55:38

we not we don't have it? I

55:40

don't know what kind of budget you

55:42

think we're working with. I think it's

55:45

like I just saw the Caleb, Caleb

55:47

and all the job. Listen, when you

55:49

watch his tape, it reminds me of

55:51

just like, he's like, just imagine it

55:53

in your head. Just everybody just imagine

55:55

what this industry trick here. Go ahead.

55:57

If you don't say that. They can

55:59

add in post and then it's also

56:02

a podcast I'm happy if you're checking

56:04

us out on YouTube Careless check us

56:06

out on an phone network, but we

56:08

got the most people listen to it

56:10

as a podcast and you're ruining it

56:12

by calling it It's okay. Listen. Okay.

56:14

So here close your eyes while you're

56:16

driving then since you want me to

56:18

help you out. You can visualize this.

56:21

Okay. Imagine being in in in a

56:23

Corvette and you decided to step on

56:25

this step on the gas car is

56:27

gonna like kind of rev up and

56:29

then go Right. He's not that when

56:31

he steps with the gas. It is

56:33

no revving up. It's like he is

56:35

taking off right now. He's off the

56:38

line. He is rolling. And so you

56:40

I've seen him make people shut it

56:42

down, which to me is when DJ's

56:44

pointed to the two high safeties. If

56:46

you get a guy that I've seen

56:48

again, I call the games for the

56:50

Rams. I've seen Cairo break 30 yard

56:52

runs. Those 30 yard runs are gonna

56:54

go 90. Right. If you're a coach,

56:57

I don't want to call any more

56:59

place. I want to be able to

57:01

hand the ball off to you and

57:03

you go 90 if possible. R.J. Harvey

57:05

has it and then Giddens on the

57:07

other side. I put on this tape,

57:09

he was a little banged up throughout

57:11

the year. I think he had like

57:14

a wrist or a hand or something,

57:16

but I've never seen anyone at his

57:18

size, stop and he'll just slam on

57:20

the brakes. And then he'll just take

57:22

off again, like, again, the start, the

57:24

stop and start to me is what

57:26

the NFL has become. If you ever,

57:28

if you watch Saquan Barkley and all

57:31

a lot of his long runs, a

57:33

lot of them are starting to stop

57:35

and start. Like, he'll stop, then he'll

57:37

explode out and he'll be gone. And

57:39

so to me, when you look at

57:41

Giddens, he just has that suddenness where

57:43

like a guy is coming, he can

57:45

make you miss at the last second

57:47

to me. That special. I think he

57:50

ran a think he ran a four,

57:52

I think he ran a four, I

57:54

think. Okay, so like to be, you

57:56

know, he has a speed, he has

57:58

the ability to stop and start like

58:00

man and then again and I don't like to

58:02

knock colleges but I don't know who

58:04

was at Kansas State this year I really

58:07

have no idea because I was just watching

58:09

the running backs but it wasn't like he

58:11

was running through gaping holes like he was

58:13

sliding through gaping holes like he was sliding

58:15

through holes and making people miss and

58:17

so to me when you watch that I've

58:20

gotten to some disagreements with some scouts that

58:22

I know that I've grown up with or

58:24

played with and they're like oh man I don't

58:26

care what you're talking about to make a

58:28

full speed at full speed is Not many

58:30

people can do it and this guy has

58:32

it It's his last name of color by

58:34

the way the person you're referencing Anyway,

58:37

the I'm already inside MJD's head. I

58:39

know he's talking about least referencing so

58:41

I just kept that on the deal

58:43

But to me the interesting thing about

58:45

him to MJD is he's kind of

58:47

he's a little upright But a

58:49

lot of times you get upright guys.

58:51

They're stiff. He's a loose fluid upright

58:54

runner who's able to kind of, who's

58:56

slithery can make you miss, which is

58:58

an unusual combination when you watch him. Yeah,

59:00

I mean, I thought of, I don't even know who there

59:02

was a, I was just trying, like you said,

59:05

I, when I'm looking, most guys are like

59:07

high cut and kind of like, they run

59:09

straight up and down, they're linear, they're linear

59:11

guys. Yeah, linear guys, right, not, yeah, not

59:13

the guys that can move and, you know,

59:15

like, like some of us, but anyways, but anyways,

59:17

but anyways, but anyways, to see him.

59:19

the set like like I said it's

59:21

just certain things that you see in

59:23

like a word pops up you really

59:25

hear sudden but that's what you hear

59:27

with him like that and then he's off

59:30

going somewhere else and he's making

59:32

guys miss and again I think again

59:34

in the right system I don't know

59:36

what system that would be but he

59:38

could be a real valuable player for

59:40

a big team. Yeah I hear you on Harvey by

59:43

the way too. I think he would be a

59:45

fun fit in one of those. Schemes where

59:47

it's it's a lot of RPOs and you have

59:49

a running quarterback and you combine him with the

59:51

Jets maybe They don't use a running back or

59:53

you combine him with Justin Fields and what they're

59:55

trying to or the commanders if they you know

59:58

wanted to look at kind of a long-term echo

1:00:00

replace and you put him with Jane

1:00:02

Daniels that would be explosive. Let's get

1:00:04

to the mock. Let's talk a little

1:00:06

bit of the mock. You have a

1:00:08

lot of surprising picks here and I

1:00:10

like it. MJD. He knows what matters

1:00:12

in mock season. It's getting a little

1:00:14

attention for the mock and he puts

1:00:17

Ted McMillan at... Number five for the

1:00:19

jaguars. He has shitter Sanders number three

1:00:21

to the Giants Travis Hunter falls all

1:00:23

the way to seven To the jets,

1:00:25

which would be interesting Travion Henderson. We

1:00:27

mentioned before at ten Memboe falls to

1:00:29

the Saints at number nine, which they

1:00:31

would absolutely love but since you're Mr.

1:00:33

Jaguars and I don't know if you

1:00:36

still have a lot of moles inside

1:00:38

that building, but you are Mr. Jaguar.

1:00:40

You know, they've had a regime change.

1:00:42

I'm guessing you do I That's the

1:00:44

pick I go to just as a

1:00:46

consumer immediately. Oh, who does who does

1:00:48

MJD have going to the Jaguars? Interesting.

1:00:50

You have Ted McMillan going there. Well,

1:00:52

if you look at Liam Cohen, where

1:00:55

he came from, right? He came from

1:00:57

Tampa, where they had Godwoman and Mike

1:00:59

Evans. Well, you already have Brian Thomas,

1:01:01

Jr. who has that jump ball, six,

1:01:03

six, five, big frame. You saw how

1:01:05

they used Mike Evans. And to me,

1:01:07

this is all about Trevor. See that's

1:01:09

crazy. That's it either here, they're there,

1:01:11

but this pick is all about Trevor

1:01:14

and getting Trevor and making him the

1:01:16

most comfortable that you can make him.

1:01:18

You let all these guys, Christian Kirk

1:01:20

is gone, you have all these different

1:01:22

things, put a playmaker around him and

1:01:24

let's watch his young head coach call

1:01:26

plays with all these new toys and

1:01:28

this new weapon and make them better.

1:01:31

I mean, let's let's be honest. The

1:01:33

jags have been close. But this is

1:01:35

the time now for you to take

1:01:37

the top off with. two explosive players

1:01:39

that I believe could really change the

1:01:41

trajectory of the Jaguars. Yeah, what about

1:01:43

him though? Give me reasoning on him

1:01:45

over Travis there. Why not just make

1:01:47

Travis your receiver and take him there?

1:01:50

Well, I think Travis is luxury, right?

1:01:52

I think he's a luxury. when and

1:01:54

again you talk about being the best

1:01:56

player you can play offense and defense

1:01:58

but that size is hard to come

1:02:00

by right again in the NFL there's

1:02:02

not many six four corners right there's

1:02:04

not many six four corners right there's

1:02:06

not many six two corners so to

1:02:09

have a guy that's legitimately six five

1:02:11

that you could throw jump balls to

1:02:13

in the red zone that you can

1:02:15

do some different things to me it

1:02:17

just it just it made more sense

1:02:19

to see the Mike Evans cop and

1:02:21

and kind of picture what Tampa was

1:02:23

like last year with Baker or Baker

1:02:25

through 40 touchdowns to see that kind

1:02:28

of comp go with Liam Cohen, because

1:02:30

that's what he was. That's where he

1:02:32

was. Like, if the Patriots pass on

1:02:34

Travis Hunter and then the Jaguars and

1:02:36

the Raiders pass on Travis Hunter, what

1:02:38

are we doing here, people? They all

1:02:40

need them. And this is the thing.

1:02:42

When you look at the Raiders and

1:02:44

again, a team that I grew up

1:02:47

loving and I played for, we know

1:02:49

what Pete Carroll wants. They want a

1:02:51

physical running game. They have a great

1:02:53

weapon in Brock Bowers already. You brought

1:02:55

in Geno Smith. They don't have a

1:02:57

running game. And Pete Carroll, out of

1:02:59

everybody, he loves to run the football

1:03:01

and play defense. And so that's why

1:03:03

I went there. The only thing with

1:03:06

the Patriots, and again, this is the

1:03:08

problem when you have a corner receiver

1:03:10

that can do a little bit of

1:03:12

everything. Someone has to protect the quarterback.

1:03:14

Like, let's remember, Drake was running around

1:03:16

for his life. last year and I

1:03:18

know the tackle from LSU has short

1:03:20

arms or that's what I was saying

1:03:22

he's a short arm guy whatever may

1:03:25

be but listen you have to protect

1:03:27

your quarterback like I would love to

1:03:29

have Travis Hunter but what's the purpose

1:03:31

of getting him if I can't get

1:03:33

him the football last year like calling

1:03:35

games for Drake May again the Rams

1:03:37

played the Patriots he was running around

1:03:39

either the ball was getting out in

1:03:41

a two-step drop which I've never seen

1:03:44

before or he was scrambling around like

1:03:46

a chicken with his head cut off

1:03:48

eventually we got to protect our Well,

1:03:51

one of the things I do when I'm doing the

1:03:53

the charger games and getting ready for it I try

1:03:55

I study the offensive line and I try and I

1:03:57

try and I try and circle the guy of like

1:04:00

this is the mark Like this is the guy that,

1:04:02

okay, let's see where they want to move, you know,

1:04:04

whoever it is, Kalee Mac, both, whoever they want, this

1:04:06

is the guy to attack. When I did the Patriots

1:04:08

game, I was like, well, wherever you want.

1:04:11

There's a lot there's a lot of

1:04:13

points of entry here along this offensive

1:04:15

line So I get what you're saying

1:04:17

I think in the ideal Patriots world

1:04:19

you would trade back though like we

1:04:21

want to get either Campbell bamboo whoever

1:04:23

But let's get some extra value. Let's

1:04:25

get some extra value. Let's get some

1:04:27

extra value. Let's let's get some extra

1:04:30

value Let's trade back a little bit

1:04:32

but let's let's get some extra value

1:04:34

let's trade a little bit here I

1:04:36

can't do a little bit here I

1:04:38

can't do it here I just can't

1:04:40

do that That's a, that takes a lot to

1:04:42

do it. You know, my mock draft is

1:04:44

more based on, I'm looking at the team,

1:04:47

I'm looking at what they did last year,

1:04:49

and then where's their need? And again, Travis

1:04:51

Hunter, I think, is probably the top

1:04:53

receiver. I just think that when you

1:04:55

have a coach that played with two

1:04:57

big giants, like he did in Tampa,

1:04:59

that just matches more of what Mike

1:05:01

Evans was. And when you see how,

1:05:03

like, it just reminds me and when

1:05:05

Liam Cohen through the little five-yard route

1:05:08

to get Mike Evans, his. thousand yards

1:05:10

to keep it going. Right. Did you

1:05:12

see how excited everyone was? Like, did

1:05:14

you see how? And that, when you bring

1:05:16

human nature into it, it's like, okay, you

1:05:19

see these two giants running down the

1:05:21

field. You don't think that'll help your

1:05:23

quarterback to become better. And so to

1:05:25

me, that's kind of what I was

1:05:27

thinking with the T-Mac version. Plus, I

1:05:29

know T-Mac. I coach against T-Mac and

1:05:31

high school. I'd love for T-Mac to

1:05:33

come to the jags and get us right.

1:05:35

Yeah, looking at some of the rest

1:05:37

of the mock. Just getting to it.

1:05:39

Eventually, MJD is going to park that

1:05:41

car, you know, and that was where

1:05:43

it landed right there. He'd known him

1:05:45

since he was a kid. Go ahead.

1:05:47

Yeah, so at least he's talking about

1:05:49

his biases openly. One of my biases

1:05:51

is telling DJ, he's got Mason Graham too

1:05:54

high. So I like that. You didn't even

1:05:56

have him in your top 10 in the

1:05:58

mock. So, and no Kenneth Grant. Apparently you

1:06:00

hate Michigan. Jay Barian is 31st overall.

1:06:02

That's interest. And then we did notice

1:06:04

a trend. I do have a small

1:06:06

research department. And they came up with

1:06:09

a trend that there was a lot

1:06:11

of similar picks between you and DJ's

1:06:13

mock draft, a lot of copying. 12

1:06:15

picks actually were. type technical. I know

1:06:17

you've been traveling around the world, you

1:06:19

don't got the LSU tackles name here,

1:06:21

so I don't blame you, MJD, but

1:06:23

we just know it is 12 picks

1:06:25

are the same. Listen, I'm not gonna

1:06:27

cheat, you know, but also at the

1:06:30

same time, it's like, that does make

1:06:32

sense. And I think that's what a

1:06:34

lot of those were, like, I didn't

1:06:36

really go mock draft fire, fire, I

1:06:38

wanted it to make sense. Um, you

1:06:40

used to go heavy. I used to

1:06:42

get high on you, you kind of

1:06:44

back that you, I've told it down

1:06:46

a little bit because, you know, the

1:06:48

comments start to get to you after

1:06:51

a couple years, you know, it's just

1:06:53

like, yeah, it says it doesn't bother

1:06:55

them. They all say it doesn't bother

1:06:57

them and they jump in. No, I,

1:06:59

again, I agree. It bothers me. It

1:07:01

bothers me. But I would, like, there

1:07:03

was a run. I think I think

1:07:05

I think I did. I don't know

1:07:07

who's going to be there. If T.

1:07:09

Mac falls, and yeah, that's awesome, like

1:07:12

I have no idea. But when we

1:07:14

got there, when I got to the

1:07:16

Rams, I was like, I have no

1:07:18

idea who's available and who they're going

1:07:20

to take. And so I just like,

1:07:22

hey, go with Ed Russia again. Forget

1:07:24

it. Like, get another Ed Russia. Why

1:07:26

not? Like, you can never have enough

1:07:28

of those. And I think that's kind

1:07:31

of where, you know, you saw some

1:07:33

of the similarities similarities. It's just a

1:07:35

chance, it's random, I mean, come on,

1:07:37

that's just a random chance. MJD knows

1:07:39

the beauty of a mock draft. My

1:07:41

son used this term, which I'd never

1:07:43

heard before, but apparently it's very popular.

1:07:45

Greg, I think we talked about this

1:07:47

before, but he was, I turned in

1:07:49

my first mock draft this year, he

1:07:52

goes, you put any rage bait in

1:07:54

there? And I was like, rage bait,

1:07:56

like you gotta get some rage bait

1:07:58

in there that gets everybody all stirred

1:08:00

up. So MJd. You need about four,

1:08:02

like four, like the Jets, oh, Jets

1:08:04

and Travis Hunter, that's a week worth

1:08:06

of content for the New York market.

1:08:08

I mean, that's, that's, that's, geez. Name

1:08:10

is out there, your name is out

1:08:13

there for a while, it's, it's gonna

1:08:15

blow up. I mean, Shador Sanders to

1:08:17

the Giants, even though after they, you

1:08:19

know, even though I did this mock

1:08:21

draft, I can't wait to get the

1:08:23

glimpses of that competition all over the

1:08:25

place. I can't wait. I'd love to

1:08:27

see Brian Dable manage that group, but

1:08:29

it would be a great landing spot

1:08:31

for him. And yeah, rage bait, like,

1:08:34

MJD has been doing rage bait since

1:08:36

before that was a term. MDD's entire

1:08:38

life walking around is rage bait. We're

1:08:40

in a studio named for my friend

1:08:42

Chris Westling, and I remember the first

1:08:44

few times he met MJ. What's up

1:08:46

with this guy? This guy's this guy's

1:08:48

a jerk like because MJD has got

1:08:50

to give the business to everyone six

1:08:53

minutes, you know, six months later, a

1:08:55

year later, we're we're great buddies with

1:08:57

with MJD and he thinks he's a

1:08:59

great guy, but a rage bait is

1:09:01

basically how MJD lives. It's called competition,

1:09:03

right? And some people are nice to

1:09:05

their competition, right? DJ. Some people like,

1:09:07

we're all open arms, like come on

1:09:09

for like me. I got to see

1:09:11

what you what you're made up first

1:09:14

before I can really let you in

1:09:16

to the group. Right? And Greg, over,

1:09:18

you know, Greg almost got kicked out

1:09:20

of the group this year, just so

1:09:22

you know, we almost kicked Greg out

1:09:24

of the Monday Night Group, because Greg

1:09:26

never wanted to show up until he

1:09:28

needed me and Bridget, or he needed

1:09:30

myself and Bridget to kind of join

1:09:32

and do one of his podcast, then

1:09:35

he magically showed up to do a

1:09:37

show on Monday. So just remember, Greg

1:09:39

only you, you know, until he needs

1:09:41

you. Oh, this is this is complete

1:09:43

nonsense, but the running back analysis was

1:09:45

pretty awesome. It was great adding another

1:09:47

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1:09:49

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1:09:51

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1:09:53

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