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what is going on, man? Not

2:04

too much, DJ. You know, it's

2:06

funny, free agent, You know more about the PayPal debit card. frenzy is great.

2:08

But what it also is, is it's

2:10

a distraction from being able to do

2:12

all the work for the college stuff.

2:15

And we're trying to get ready for

2:17

the draft. So you spend a week

2:19

like a week like. good

2:32

thing is, you and I haven't worked

2:34

in front offices. We know how

2:36

they complement and balance each other, like

2:38

what you can't get in the draft,

2:41

you're getting for agency and vice versa.

2:43

But it's a lot of info to

2:45

take in. And I'm curious like now

2:47

because after we hit this weekend,

2:49

everybody refocuses and recess

2:51

and there's kind of a pause on

2:54

the signings. as everyone begins to spend

2:56

the next month kind of digging into

2:58

the draft. Yeah, and I also think

3:00

there's, you know, there's this next wave where

3:02

some teams have made some signings, which is

3:05

going to free up some other members of

3:07

their roster, you know, where you're going to

3:09

see some guys get cut, potentially some trades

3:11

that'll take place as they've made some moves

3:14

at those existing positions, and you could see

3:16

a little bit of movement there. I do

3:18

think you hit a point that was interesting

3:20

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3:23

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3:25

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3:27

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3:29

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3:31

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3:34

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3:36

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3:38

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3:40

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3:43

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3:45

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3:47

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17:39

right Buck, let's get to this team. I

17:41

referenced it a little bit earlier, the Giants

17:43

coming off a three and 14 season holding

17:45

a third overall pick. Haven't done a ton.

17:47

Paulson, a Debo, and Javon Holland, two excellent

17:50

players in the secondary that they've added, they

17:52

lost to Dory Jackson. But still waiting on

17:54

the quarterback as we're recording this, I think

17:56

Russell Wilson is actually on a... visit up

17:58

there. But I made this comment the other

18:00

day and I'll see if you're with me

18:02

on this. But of the top three teams,

18:04

Tennessee, Cleveland, the Giants, with where each team

18:07

is, where with each regime is at this

18:09

point in time in their tenure, I think

18:11

there should be more urgency with the Giants

18:13

to try and get to cam ward however

18:15

they can than any of those other two

18:17

teams. And so to me, at this point

18:19

time with where they are in free agency,

18:21

I think I don't want to say gun

18:24

to your head, but I would say like

18:26

there should be they should be on the

18:28

phone every day trying to swing that thing

18:30

and make that thing happen. Yeah, they get

18:32

swinging for defense. They got to make this

18:34

thing happen if you want to do it

18:36

because if you're the Giants, you want to

18:38

control your destiny. And if you're in what

18:41

we say, must win situation with Brian, Dave,

18:43

or Joe, Shane, and those are, give the

18:45

guy that you want to get and give

18:47

up what you need to, what you need

18:49

to get up. Because guess what you need

18:51

to get up. Because guess what you need

18:53

to get up. Because guess what you. Because

18:55

guess what you. Because guess what you. Because

18:58

guess what you. Because guess what you. Why

19:00

do you care about those picks? So put

19:02

yourself in a position to get the quarterback

19:04

that you deem to be the right fit

19:06

for the way that you want to run

19:08

the team over the next three to five

19:10

years. And if Cam Ward is that guy,

19:13

then make it happen. Because he certainly has

19:15

the tools, he has the talent, he's athletic.

19:17

Brian Dayball has a track record of being

19:19

successful with athletic playmakers. Look man, if they

19:21

decide Dayball on Shane, decide that he is

19:23

the one, then the mortgage form to get

19:25

it up. All right, I'm gonna give you

19:27

the trade you tell me if you do

19:30

it because most times when you're trading inside

19:32

the top three Going from three to one.

19:34

It's normally traditionally a 20% overpay over the

19:36

chart like because it's it's a premium you're

19:38

paying to get up there to get a

19:40

quarterback There's some instances where it can be

19:42

in that 5 to 10% range. It's not

19:44

often I think the true Bisky trade where

19:47

they just moved up one spot was like

19:49

a 4% overpay so it was still more

19:51

than what the chart suggested so If we

19:53

say that this is not a year with

19:55

the premier, premier quarterback, that let's say you

19:57

only have to pay like a 5% or

19:59

a 5 to 10% tax on that, this

20:01

the trade tell me if you do it

20:04

if you're the Giants would you trade your

20:06

the third pick your second round this year

20:08

your second round next year that's the five

20:10

to ten percent overpay so two it's two

20:12

two swap you're swapping one and three and

20:14

you're giving up a two this year two

20:16

next year Man

20:18

it seems like I still need to

20:21

get a little more maybe just because

20:23

the prestige of the pick If you

20:25

go if you want to go if

20:27

you want to go to the 20%

20:29

overpay which is more standard I don't

20:32

think you're getting that 20% overpay would

20:34

be the third Your second round pick

20:36

and next year's one. So the only

20:38

difference is next year. It's either a

20:40

one or a two Okay Can I

20:43

get the, I feel like I got

20:45

to get to 15. Give me the

20:47

15. If we get to 15, maybe

20:49

we can have a deal. Like we

20:51

got the 10%, didn't you say, didn't

20:54

you give me the 10%? So that,

20:56

that's the 10% so you're saying just

20:58

throw me an extra fourth or fourth

21:00

round. Give me a little sugar, a

21:02

little sugar, you're saying just throw me

21:05

an extra fourth or fourth round. Give

21:07

me a little sugar, you want a

21:09

little sugar on. you're probably fine. You

21:11

know what I you know what this

21:13

does though Buck? You know what this

21:16

does? Is it if you do that

21:18

Tennessee if they if they did the

21:20

5 to 10% deal that I was

21:22

talking about right Tennessee would then have

21:24

picks 34 and 35. You know what

21:27

that does? That gives you a free

21:29

pop. That's it. I get a free

21:31

pop at one of those that I

21:33

take Tyler Shutt with the 34th, 35th

21:35

pick. You know, you know, I don't

21:38

know if Jackson Dart's going to be

21:40

there. But that next. And if you're

21:42

looking at it saying, you know what,

21:44

what would you, it's our whole thing,

21:46

what would you rather have? Would you

21:49

rather have Shador, you know, and then

21:51

whoever you pick in the second round,

21:53

or I get Travis Hunter, who I

21:55

was gonna take in the second round,

21:57

plus Tyler in the second round, plus

22:00

Tyler Shuck, plus an extra second round

22:02

pick next year. Like all of a

22:04

sudden you stack. It's Shador versus Shuck,

22:06

another, you know, Travis Hunter and a

22:08

second round pick next year. Like, that

22:11

gets interesting. You may not know this.

22:13

I know we've been doing this show

22:15

forever, but you see Titans. Like you're

22:17

now out of the deal unless you,

22:19

I mean, obviously, you felt that way

22:22

about the quarterback situation if you wanted

22:24

to move up. So you're probably fine.

22:26

You know what this does, Buck? You

22:28

know what this does? Is it, if

22:30

you do that. Tennessee if they if

22:33

they did the 5 to 10% deal

22:35

that I was talking about right Tennessee

22:37

would then have picks 34 and 35

22:39

You know what that does that gives

22:41

you a free pop. That's it. I

22:44

get a free pop at one of

22:46

those that court I take Tyler Scheck

22:48

with the 34th 35th pick. You know

22:50

I don't know if Jackson Dart's gonna

22:52

be there, but that's you're getting that

22:55

next and if you if you're looking

22:57

at it saying you know and then

22:59

whoever you pick in the second round,

23:01

or I get Travis Hunter, who I

23:03

was going to take in the second

23:06

round, plus Tyler Shuck, plus an extra

23:08

second round pick next year. Like all

23:10

of a sudden you stack up, it's

23:12

Shador versus Shuck, another, you know, Travis

23:14

Hunter and a second round pick next

23:17

year. Like, that gets interesting. You may

23:19

not know this, I know we've been

23:21

doing this show forever, but you may

23:23

not know that Price is right, is

23:25

one of my favorite game shows, right.

23:28

we just did the showcase showdown. And

23:30

so what you did is say you

23:32

can have eight. We can have this

23:34

one over here, you know, or if

23:36

you wait, you can take the next

23:39

thing. So, um, so let's, let's, let's,

23:41

let's, let's tell that story because now

23:43

if we're in the draft from Buck,

23:45

it's not, because people will say, well,

23:47

I like Shidoor better than, and we'll

23:50

just use Tyler Shuck, but it's like,

23:52

yeah, but do you like Shidoor? better

23:54

than Tyler Shuck plus Travis Hunter plus

23:56

a second round pick next year like

23:58

that's where it's in debate and we've

24:01

I've talked about it, but it is

24:03

kind of like the showcase showdown thing,

24:05

like which one would you want? Do

24:07

you want what's behind door number one

24:09

or door number two? Like door number

24:12

two may have more B pluses, whereas

24:14

look, you may get the A, but

24:16

then maybe you get a B minus,

24:18

whereas you get a B minus, whereas

24:20

you're able to put really good players

24:23

on the thing. The main thing, whenever

24:25

you do these moves or whatever, it

24:27

only works out if you nail the

24:29

work out. And ultimately. How confident are

24:31

you and one the talent that's going

24:34

to be on the board at those

24:36

picks that we're talking about and you

24:38

making sure that you get the right

24:40

pick for the need that you have

24:42

on your team and they have a

24:45

bunch of let me pull up these

24:47

names here real quick. Let's see. I

24:49

think I've got it on my computer

24:51

here in one second. I'll

24:56

pull up the trades that have been

24:58

done historically up there buck and we

25:00

do this every year. Look at the

25:02

names of like this is always the

25:04

warning sign if a team is willing

25:06

to trade off of a quarterback here's

25:08

the quarterbacks that have been traded up

25:11

for in the top five since 2011

25:13

Bryce Young, Trey Lance, Sam Donald, Mitch

25:15

Trobiski, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, RG3. A

25:17

couple interesting ones but more misses than

25:19

hits, I think we'd have to say.

25:21

Yeah, what you did right there, it

25:23

makes me kind of want to sit

25:26

and pick, like whatever play it comes

25:28

to me, like, I want to do

25:30

it. And maybe we're manufacturing those things

25:32

sometimes when it comes to the quarterback,

25:34

like we, in our urgency to make

25:36

sure we have a QB1 in place.

25:38

Well, you know what you know what

25:41

you know what's telling you know what's

25:43

telling there What I think we don't

25:45

talk about is the reason why a

25:47

lot of those trades don't work is

25:49

because you don't have any picks to

25:51

support the player You just traded all

25:53

your picks to go up and get

25:56

the player Does that make sense? Yeah,

25:58

because let's be honest and we do

26:00

this segment on path to draft where

26:02

it talks about like operating instructions but

26:04

it's not only that is what are

26:06

the other things that need to come

26:08

with the quarterback that help them be

26:11

successful and most of the times if

26:13

we're picking up that high we already

26:15

have issues elsewhere and yeah and we

26:17

don't have the ability to immediately help

26:19

the quarterback be a successful playmaker. Look,

26:21

I think this draft is going to

26:23

be more interesting as we get closer

26:26

to it. I don't know if anyone

26:28

has a strong sense of what people

26:30

feel about. Let's just say that Cam

26:32

Ward is the presumptive number one. What

26:34

people feel about two, three, four, and

26:36

five, and is there a consensus order

26:38

in which they view them? Like that's,

26:41

I mean, that's really the thing. And

26:43

it's not only the order, but DJ,

26:45

how many of those other guys carry...

26:47

first round grades because we sat here

26:49

and just watched the playoffs. If your

26:51

quarterback is in the first round quarterback,

26:54

the odds of you going to the

26:56

final four going to the final eight,

26:58

slim and none because in the AFC

27:00

in particular, you dealing with wizards, you

27:02

doing my homes and Allen and Jackson

27:04

and Burrow and others. The talent must

27:06

equate to where we're talking about taking

27:09

these guys. Yeah. No, that's. That's very

27:11

interesting. How about Chicago Buck, five and

27:13

12, last place, NFC North, aggressive in

27:15

trying to fix the offensive line with

27:17

Joe Tunney, Jonah Jackson, Drew Dalman. Then

27:19

they go on the defensive line, Ode

27:21

Angbo, Grady Jarrett. So it felt like,

27:24

as I said, with some of these

27:26

other teams, you know, maybe they didn't

27:28

do it right last year. You always

27:30

want to go to go to the

27:32

hardware store before you go to the

27:34

toy store and this was... Maybe a

27:36

little bit too much time spent at

27:39

KB Toys R. Us. I think both

27:41

out of business currently But they went

27:43

to Dixie line. They went to the

27:45

hardware store this year. So look I

27:47

like that line. That's a good one.

27:49

You might need to use that one

27:51

on TV. You might need it. I

27:54

don't know if you've used that one

27:56

before. I think I have. I think

27:58

I have. That might be it. That

28:00

might be like toy store, hardware store.

28:02

I think we can get that because

28:04

you're talking about the nuts and bolts

28:06

of your team being in the trenches.

28:09

And when you're talking about offensive line

28:11

and making sure you can control the

28:13

trenches and dominate a deployment attack, like

28:15

they're great. But man, if you can't

28:17

put yourself in a position where you

28:19

can impose your will or dictate the

28:21

terms to the defense, you never get

28:24

an opportunity to really utilize and maximize

28:26

those toys on the perimeter. The Bears

28:28

learned a lesson to heart weight last

28:30

year. They're making amends for it, trying

28:32

to help Kayla Williams get right. And

28:34

Ben Johnson had a lot of success

28:36

in Detroit with maybe the top or

28:39

the second best opposite line in football

28:41

at his disposal. He understands that death

28:43

hit the foundation for the lions to

28:45

do all the fun stuff. He's taking

28:47

the Intel and trying to put it

28:49

in practice in Chicago. Yeah, no, I

28:51

think it's the right way to go

28:54

about doing things. I also think Ashton

28:56

Gente, you know, that opens up the

28:58

conversation for him in the draft at

29:00

that point in time too. And you've

29:02

got a pretty good run blocking offensive

29:04

line now and now you've got a

29:06

chance with some young triplets with some

29:09

young triplets there with a doomsday going

29:11

in. to year two with Caleb going

29:13

into year two and then have Ashton

29:15

Gente back there would be fun. It

29:17

would be in fun offense to have

29:19

in place. They could also, you know,

29:21

they could upgrade left tackle too, whether

29:24

that's Membo or Will Campbell, that option

29:26

still is out there. New Orleans, five

29:28

and 12, Carolina, so they both tied

29:30

for the worst record in that division.

29:32

Why don't we start with Carolina? This

29:34

is a team that swung big. Tried

29:37

to get Milton Williams, weren't able to

29:39

get him in the boat, but got

29:41

Trevor Merrick, who's a really, really good

29:43

player. We talked about him. Trevell Whort,

29:45

they've got Patrick Jones, Rico Dattle, the

29:47

running back, Brown, the D tackle. Brown.

29:49

So made some moves there for a

29:52

team that again needed help all over

29:54

the place. Yeah, I mean, look, they

29:56

need help everywhere. And it's one of

29:58

those things like you see the improvement,

30:00

you see some of the ground that

30:02

they were able to close on the

30:04

division rivals. But I'm just thinking like,

30:07

man, at some point, like with the

30:09

young quarterback, like What are we going

30:11

to get them to help them? I

30:13

know we're banking on some of the

30:15

picks from last year and those things,

30:17

but you still like to see a

30:19

little more sizzle. It's a good team,

30:22

but can they, I feel like the

30:24

teams in their division got much better.

30:26

I don't know how they, I feel

30:28

like they're still chasing. Yeah. Again, this

30:30

is a team last year. It was

30:32

29th and yards per game on offense.

30:34

32nd and points per game on defense,

30:37

32nd and total yards per game, 32nd,

30:39

rushing yards per game, 29th and sacks,

30:41

32nd pressure rate like defensively as many

30:43

holes as they have on offense. You'd

30:45

like to help the quarterback. They stink

30:47

on defense. So they try to take

30:49

some swings there. I think Merrick and

30:52

Wharton are solid players. But I still

30:54

think they don't, they need a premier

30:56

edge player. But and then on the

30:58

offensive side just. you know, more firepower

31:00

there to help your quarterback would be

31:02

nice. We'll see what happens in the

31:04

draft. That other team in the division,

31:07

we mentioned the Saints, not much there,

31:09

Justin Reed, Isaac Yidam. They resigned some

31:11

guys, but Paulson Adebo Leaving was a

31:13

big loss for them. Kind of a

31:15

tough team to peg, man. You know,

31:17

DJ, this is one where I believe

31:19

the Saints are banking on coaching. improving

31:22

the team more so than personnel improving

31:24

the team. That there's a sense maybe

31:26

internally that Kellamore Brennan Staley will find

31:28

a way to put together the right

31:30

X and O's to have this team

31:32

improve as opposed to a we're going

31:34

to revamp the roster and do those

31:37

things. and I know they're hamstrung to

31:39

some calorie salary cap issues. They just

31:41

keep pushing it. They don't ever take

31:43

their medicine, man. They just keep pushing

31:45

it. Yeah, but, but I mean, it's,

31:47

it's an older team. And I don't

31:49

know, man, like at some point, you

31:52

do have to wash it out. It

31:54

certainly doesn't help that man. Some of

31:56

your players like Peyton Turner never really

31:58

gave them anything when they took them

32:00

like you just, you gotta, you gotta

32:02

nail some of these picks some of

32:04

these picks to be able to be

32:07

able to do that consistently. Yeah, I

32:09

just I don't know I thought first

32:11

year head coach. I thought this would

32:13

be the year to take the medicine

32:15

like and we've got quarterbacks coming over

32:17

the next couple years like just take

32:20

your medicine now. I want to say

32:22

run to the bottom tank whatever you

32:24

want to you know everybody gets upset

32:26

when you use those words, but they

32:28

were they were kind of this was

32:30

the time like you don't want to

32:32

do this year two or year three

32:35

of your new head coach like do

32:37

it right now. That's what I didn't

32:39

didn't understand. Like it's easier to just

32:41

go ahead and pull the plug on

32:43

everything the first year you come in

32:45

and reestablish and do it off as

32:47

opposed to trying to make the jump

32:50

particularly when you look at their team

32:52

and older roster but maybe you know

32:54

Killamore got in there assessed the situation

32:56

was like no no no we're just

32:58

a tweak we don't need to we're

33:00

just a retool not a rebuild away

33:02

from being a contender we'll see who's

33:05

right at the end of the end

33:07

of the year Yeah, all right, this

33:09

is still weird to say. San Francisco,

33:11

last placed team in the NFC West,

33:13

buck, six and 11. And this is

33:15

a team where the losses are much

33:17

greater than the additions. De Marcus Robinson

33:20

receiver was added. They added grant safety,

33:22

but dude, this is a team that

33:24

just, I mean, Debo's gone, Greenlaw's gone,

33:26

Hargrave, Fonga, to various ward. Jaylon Moore,

33:28

their tackle got big money, they let

33:30

go of use check, Floyd, Floyd got

33:32

cut. massive, massive departures and not much

33:35

in the way of... incoming here, Buck.

33:37

Is this is this team finishing? I

33:39

don't see how they're not going to

33:41

finish in last place again next year.

33:43

You see any other way they get

33:45

ahead of these other teams in the

33:47

division? Well, I would say it has

33:50

little to do with the personnel and

33:52

more to do with the energy within

33:54

the locker room and the building. It

33:56

seemed like last year from the outside

33:58

looking in that this team was fractured

34:00

coming on coming off of that Super

34:02

Bowl. You saw Debo Samuel act out

34:05

publicly on the sideline. with teammates. You

34:07

saw Brennan and I your cap issues.

34:09

One, trying to get the contract. Then

34:11

when he did agree to a contract,

34:13

he comes in and kind of gets

34:15

into some things where he wasn't in

34:17

the right frame of mind. It didn't

34:20

appear to fully kind of buy in

34:22

or play up or live up to

34:24

the standards that they've created. And you

34:26

have some other little issues that kind

34:28

of reared this ugly head throughout the

34:30

course of a very very difficult season.

34:32

To me, this is a perfect time

34:35

for the nine. roster rebuilding or tooling,

34:37

but it's getting back to keeping the

34:39

main thing, the main thing. The Niners

34:41

are at their best when they play

34:43

a complimentary ball and there's a certain

34:45

vibe that you have with the team.

34:47

They gotta get that vibe back. They

34:50

are kind of like the bullies on

34:52

the block. They play a certain way

34:54

that makes others wilt over time. They

34:56

need to make sure that they're bringing

34:58

in the people, the personnel that... believe

35:00

in that blue collar style and work

35:03

towards doing that as they're contemplating how

35:05

to pay the quarterback because it seems

35:07

like that's going to be a little

35:09

contentious negotiation now that we're coming off

35:11

a disappointing year for the team how

35:13

much money are we willing to pay

35:15

Brock Purdy as QB1? I mean this

35:18

doesn't feel a lot like an I

35:20

don't say an imitation of the Rams

35:22

you know like the Rams just kind

35:24

of retooled everything and they hit on

35:26

draft picks like nobody's business over a

35:28

couple years and all of a sudden

35:30

you look up and this defense is

35:33

totally different than it was a couple

35:35

years ago they're all young they're all

35:37

hungry they're all fast to me it

35:39

feels like San Francisco saw that within

35:41

the division saw a team that had

35:43

been you know not only had been

35:45

in but it actually won the Super

35:48

Bowl and then they totally revamped everything

35:50

it feels like they're trying to do

35:52

similarly with some obviously some stars still

35:54

in place there when you still have

35:56

Fred Warner and Christian McCaffrey George Kittle

35:58

like you still got some some big-time

36:00

stars there but yeah obviously Trent Williams

36:03

best left tackle in the NFL so

36:05

they still have those core stars And

36:07

you know I use this analogy on

36:09

another show talking about the Philadelphia Eagles

36:11

that there's almost kind of an NBAification

36:13

of some of these organizations. The Eagles

36:15

have said we're going to invest and

36:18

pay these core, we're going to identify

36:20

the five, right? The five to seven

36:22

guys, we're going to pay them. But

36:24

then we are going to let other

36:26

guys walk, we're going to get compicks,

36:28

and we're going to draft our butts

36:30

off and hit on young cheap players

36:33

to fill in around those five to

36:35

seven expensive guys. Roseman is a friend

36:37

of the show and a close friend

36:39

of yours. I hate to do shameless

36:41

books for other podcasts, but I heard

36:43

Howie Roseman's conversation with Todd McShay. On

36:45

the Todd McShay show, DJ, it was

36:48

enlightening. I do understand why you guys

36:50

are close, because like he dropped some

36:52

gems in there about team building, but

36:54

one of the things that has come

36:56

out, not just on that podcast, but

36:58

of late. He talked about learning the

37:00

lessons from when the Eagles dealt with

37:03

the Super Bowl and the success like

37:05

years ago and the mistakes that they

37:07

made when they went a couple years

37:09

ago where they got sentimental and nostalgic

37:11

and kept a lot of players that

37:13

were kind of fringe I don't know

37:15

and this year they were swift and

37:18

decisive. Like they won it but it

37:20

was almost as if they acted like

37:22

they didn't win it. They made very

37:24

true decisions for the Niners that also

37:26

comes into play. No matter what happens

37:28

the previous year, no matter how far

37:30

we go, when we're thinking about next

37:33

year, next year is an independent decision

37:35

that doesn't have to carry over from

37:37

the previous season. If they get back

37:39

to that and stick to that premise,

37:41

it gives them a chance to build

37:43

the team that they need. what they

37:46

have ahead going forward? I think it's,

37:48

I think the smart organizations are operating

37:50

this way. I mean, we just talked

37:52

about the Rams and the Eagles. I

37:54

don't know who has a better reputation

37:56

in those two organizations for being forward

37:58

thinking and being smart. And I think

38:01

holding on and trying to do the

38:03

reunion tour, so to speak, it's not

38:05

a good track record of that buck.

38:07

Like you got, it's hard to watch

38:09

a lot of good familiar names who've

38:11

been really good players and productive for

38:13

you walk out the building. But if

38:16

you trust your process. There's a very

38:18

famous word, phrase in sports. If you

38:20

just trust it, that's the way you

38:22

operate, man. You let those out, and

38:24

guess what? I'm gonna bring in a

38:26

bunch of other new young guys, and

38:28

we're gonna get new stars that are

38:31

gonna emerge out of this pile. Yeah,

38:33

no, I mean, it's one of those

38:35

things where the new stars are going

38:37

to emerge out the power. You have

38:39

to be confident in the way that

38:41

you go about doing business, your scouting

38:43

department, your coaching, and how they develop

38:46

players. We can talk about the Eagles

38:48

and the Rams kind of being the

38:50

North Star for being able to kind

38:52

of rebuild and flip it on the

38:54

fly. But let's also understand why it

38:56

works for both of those teams. They

38:58

get the right people. Like we can

39:01

talk about how the talent is or

39:03

whatever, but when you look at the

39:05

profile of the players that they select

39:07

and the players that they bring in,

39:09

their cultural fits. That's why it works.

39:11

The chemistry and continuity is underrated. It's

39:13

the X factor, the secret sauce that

39:16

no one can really quantify, but that's

39:18

why those teams get it. And it's

39:20

really important that as a team builder,

39:22

you know exactly what type of team

39:24

you want to have and what kind

39:26

of guys fit the profile. Yeah, no,

39:28

I think all that stuff ends up

39:31

working together to build the best team

39:33

not to have the most talent Those

39:35

are two different things This is a

39:37

fun one buck. I just kind of

39:39

wanted to focus on those bottom teams

39:41

there and what they've accomplished here in

39:43

free agency We're heading out to Dallas.

39:46

When are you getting out there by

39:48

the way? Tuesday Tuesday, Tuesday afternoon. All

39:50

right, we'll be together and yeah a

39:52

little big 12 pro days. We'll be

39:54

out there for a few days. We'll

39:56

do a show I'm sure we'll do

39:58

a show together we're out there as

40:01

well and kind of keep up with

40:03

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40:05

deals, maybe Aaron Rogers will decide where

40:07

he wants to play. You know what?

40:09

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