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go sorting with that number one

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and that is malcolm my

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favorite fact is that no one

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has any clearer idea about what growing

3:04

up with a smartphone does we

3:07

i got into the because i was doing an episode of my

3:09

podcast in recent history on what i called magic

3:11

wand experiments attack which is the

3:14

experiment you would do if could wave a magic

3:16

wand right to , all laws

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of nature and and

3:21

as ethical so i called up and

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spend a bias and i said who was a

3:25

psychologist as a what's your magic and he said all

3:27

i want to divide that divide

3:30

their thousand or two thousand children a birth

3:32

and one group group

3:35

one gets a blackberry for the first

3:37

twenty five years of their life actually he wanted

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to for the first fifty years and group

3:41

to get an phone as it will why would

3:43

you want to do that decent while because we

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just don't know what did i phone the

3:48

overtime increase hype on that existed and

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if a woman on is a sack of wasn't

3:52

sack wasn't invested was invested and have no no

3:55

point of emphasis said the blackberry

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assist your phone email so we'd

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run

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nuclear that is doesn't

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affect your life in that is dramatically rents

4:05

and the i phone is all the other stuff

4:07

there you go through those literature he said

4:10

you'll discover that there is no consensus

4:12

or even understanding of what all that he other

4:14

stuff does to a child

4:16

so he gave an example suppose you're all

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six years old

4:21

and i were sitting around a table and

4:24

i or eight years old and i see something

4:26

deeply offensive to enter a hum

4:29

anna lot madison anna

4:31

have many options and city can put

4:33

she could express her displeasure

4:35

directly to me in one form one form yell

4:38

at me

4:39

let me down sarcastically punch me

4:41

ignore me oh mary i think

4:43

of my son of a whole area yes

4:45

diagnosis and

4:47

, these are are deeply effective

4:50

ways of educating me about the consequences

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of my absence nail disposed

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mina are on our i

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phones i say the exact same thing when it's

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a text the i'm so

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only way i could respond now is with another

5:03

text so she used to have enormous

5:06

repertoire of potentially powerful

5:09

and instructive responses to my provocation

5:11

a yellow she has the text so

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let's replace the enormous repertoire

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of powerful instructive responses over the course

5:18

of twenty five years just texts

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question is what happens malcolm the

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malcolm why does become oblivious

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to i just keep being offensive to i never

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learn the guy yeah lillian as

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right

5:30

nobody my tax with them really angry

5:33

no g or i think you're my has been

5:36

nothing nothing as instructed

5:39

as the things i mentioned now

5:41

maybe that it does matter

5:43

it also maybe that huge

5:45

to quench your and we have no idea right

5:48

when will we find out with a going to be like a future

5:50

presidential election where they simply on their first

5:52

i think that's a hard enough as like

5:54

if like if going to be decades before any kind of

5:56

research on come out about you have to study it

5:59

the

5:59

mckenna i was had within years we'll

6:02

see what i could get back to look into their suicide as

6:04

no control i think us losing control yeah

6:06

and us we do know so we

6:08

know something's and a worries we

6:10

know that

6:11

levels of depression and mental illness or higher

6:13

among adolescents now than they've

6:15

ever been in measured history

6:18

though that coming to do with technology

6:20

maybe we don't know he certainly is a a

6:22

kind of prods to think of this

6:24

might be yeah had put out of verify

6:27

researching a site it it really is had

6:29

such as as

6:30

the coming thing i suppose so far

6:32

as a response a silicon valley and basically all

6:34

the people at the top of tests who now

6:36

have against it and who discovers

6:38

that children from having science

6:40

the schools have i pads

6:42

the an amateur money oh yeah no

6:44

yeah they all were so many of them regret doing what

6:46

they did i think the guy who invented infinite scroll

6:48

a the ruskin think he says he regrets

6:51

it more than anything else in his life he said it led delay

6:53

or consequences current

6:55

inventory at the infinite, scroll said

6:57

he's

7:03

at wouldn't it it be great if you could just go on and on and

7:06

now he says he the importance of that

7:08

stop i've considered that that was

7:10

the pretty good was thinking when he said he invented housing

7:12

what came before him for has gotten caught was

7:14

this who had a and pages have you he

7:16

is a threat like the and i'm now wondering what my all

7:18

time record of how many tweets i have through

7:21

at once who's i mean there must have been

7:23

a day where i did maldives yeah they will never

7:25

have a full but if i had to click the

7:27

other ten tweets i've make a conscious choice

7:30

yes you'll see another to have an outdoor

7:32

hands that in a he

7:35

, of the let's make scrolling finite

7:37

again after after

7:39

this is he just sick of talking about

7:42

it because i think a lot of people regret people because

7:44

everyone keeps requesting everyone about

7:47

a spike or guy the can we thought money into your

7:49

of the guy who of as i don't know if i

7:51

say mommy not very big imagine but i bet

7:54

it comes on the about more than idea how

7:57

we more introduced as he only has

7:59

he introduced

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now

8:00

could he be some in a cottage

8:02

actually i even keep

8:05

, until he stops snowing

8:09

you can present he says as a study

8:11

where people given bowl of soup

8:13

until to eat as much as they one and then some

8:15

of the both refill constantly

8:17

from underneath and sumner don't

8:19

lay out that results and sound the people who

8:21

have the both aretha constantly the

8:23

magic both eight seventy percent more

8:25

safe and they don't even know that they've it so

8:28

it is like really addicts

8:30

of saying

8:30

hi i'm he says it's not like

8:32

the fairytale you know with a with a

8:35

we have an implicit one where you have an infinite number

8:37

of you in the bag and is always

8:39

caught coins that

8:41

was presented to us as children

8:43

as the kind of triumphant

8:45

story fact that the tragic story really

8:48

exactly easier and ruin this ruin this

8:50

a fairytale version of infinite scrolling that

8:53

sir another of those guys just in rosenstein

8:56

who helped invent the like button like

8:58

unmarried i only helped invent don't didn't

9:01

the whole event of a in a fall the team

9:03

in latvia a he has now turned a whole

9:05

notifications his own yeah

9:07

, when you install a new app it often

9:09

comes with that vocations pre included

9:11

doesn't and have to into that the and then turn

9:13

it off in that area tim article

9:16

recently he changed

9:18

over his phone at some point and all that notification

9:20

settings the were left on and he got to

9:22

live as if he had heard them

9:25

on you know all the way for by the front of the first

9:27

place and just a

9:29

constant stream notifications

9:31

jingle bells whistles updates i

9:33

will and everything go on and every single app on

9:35

his own the notifications now on air

9:38

and of the tonight or genuine ring

9:40

moment it the other into the do is and

9:43

turn off the collar on your phone he be done this not

9:45

random i am black and white rice

9:48

yeah similar kind of etti tall i've tried that

9:50

yet the way it is is

9:52

there is one i used to get which

9:54

i don't anymore is that things

9:56

sansom phone like phantom

9:59

limb pain exactly but it's phantom of

10:01

mine have you never had this never heard zeus

10:04

strangest it's morale rj

10:06

as email you get the bus is a great

10:08

finally someone wants someone perfect

10:11

surveilled needs me in some way internal

10:14

night vision on his phone as ssl not

10:16

a fan and still mad at ya

10:18

know it is of at the very first sensation

10:21

now if it's any consolation to anyone

10:23

never really been kind of luminaries to these it's

10:26

hard to know that much at the moment

10:28

bought this looked at from seventy two thousand

10:30

people the ages of ten and

10:32

ac en el somehow my son

10:35

is son social social this so this to visit the about

10:37

his social media makes you unhappy

10:40

and then they asked how satisfies they

10:42

were with their lives that are now ten year old answer

10:44

that question but they did and earn

10:46

it basically found that there was a goldilocks

10:49

so most people if

10:51

they're using these things moderately

10:54

leaving social media mode early that pretty much

10:56

okay people who are it way

10:58

way way too much at the end the

11:00

end they tend to be you know

11:02

how much moorings i see more unhappiness

11:04

but also

11:05

the other end

11:08

people aren't really using social media at all

11:10

the money no

11:12

sign of then they're

11:15

also more i didn't have you would make sense your and

11:17

really like your and teenage years and that's

11:19

old your friends are communicating and

11:21

then you're gonna excluded from it is very good washington

11:23

post these about parent

11:24

to restrict

11:26

their kids from having phones and

11:28

is a really weird peace class think it's meant to be

11:30

about how phones a bouncer teenagers

11:32

and it's great to restrict than the all the kids

11:34

interviewed say

11:36

it's horrible it's don't i thought communicate

11:38

with my son that and will kind of plants are making

11:41

their lot of conversations of conversations which

11:43

spring from things i don't know about been known

11:45

any of the

11:45

he heard the same pace i think

11:47

they are a bit more equivocal they said they could

11:49

see a couple of advantages third as well

11:51

the end of the p c round love with one

11:54

of the hell saying was yeah i guess

11:55

the okay i won't have been way in which you can do

11:58

in isolation

11:59

you know the real question is

12:02

if your entire school didn't have a

12:04

phone oh and we retire friend circle and

12:06

your family how would you like be different yeah

12:08

so you can but if you're turning these

12:11

children who don't use iphones into pariahs

12:13

of could get excited to get affidavit

12:15

filed death

12:16

i know i always thought were trump's only

12:19

until

12:19

that's why my friend wanted to do this experiment's

12:21

yeah were entire towns

12:24

and make them smartphone free

12:26

zones and see what happens on the solitaire

12:29

yeah the okay if you're listening and

12:31

you live in a a small or village

12:33

bunny think it'll be for it contact

12:36

her movement on them out and pass on to

12:38

friends and , get it going okay

12:41

was a one other thing that i i quite like

12:43

this is about injuries that

12:45

members i knew the suffers as an actual he

12:47

the measurable physical harm suddenness

12:50

i'm injuries injuries

12:52

my mobile phone users do this either thought

12:54

over the last twenty years of his lakers what

12:56

he has a guy who have nearly as many phones

12:59

some buzz yet

13:02

and twenty seventeen apparently seventy six thousand

13:04

americans were injured thousand americans way by

13:06

their phones i'm sixty

13:08

percent of young people said they dropped the phone on

13:10

their own face while lying down and

13:12

looking at it i am up and knee injury

13:15

and and yet isn't an illness ah and

13:17

the other thing is i'm times children will have a phone

13:19

dropped on them by their parents ginger

13:22

been a young when al have a these funds

13:24

august the judge i have asthma a small child

13:26

of as a big old nineteen eighty stocks off

13:29

i think that kind

13:33

of i've been on that yes that yes put it

13:35

in in a parallel with their injuries

13:38

for in earlier generations from being

13:40

dropped the hell have any

13:42

, hearing on i am a big

13:47

fat grimm's fairytale yeah absolutely

13:49

i don't know now they are of has been of

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success

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okay it's time for fast

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number two and is as

15:45

is hop and nineteen thirty one the usa

15:48

launched an aircraft carrier it's

15:50

else could fly static

15:53

the transposes in size another

15:56

go flying aircraft carrier aircraft

15:58

carrier especially

15:59

all fan with not know

16:02

that i was a more soviet thing the metro scare

16:04

the heck us carrier would have a i am

16:07

so this was an ash it was the us

16:09

navy launched in nineteen thirty one

16:11

as cool the uss akron and

16:14

it was an airship so that's a ship with

16:16

a rigid frame blimps

16:18

a the if you're picturing

16:21

it slightly ryan's yeah yeah it's

16:23

an airship yeah oh

16:25

, sorry that you when you went to the description of know

16:27

you're a middleman and a i always little

16:29

fuss over i got the site i've been listening to a

16:32

pocket go black book was right all

16:34

about aviation mishaps

16:36

and couldn't surveys and everything in between

16:39

ah and so the the akron

16:41

with i ship and it was was

16:44

enormous and at lord's that

16:46

he one crashed and ninety thirty three ah

16:48

and the main selling feature

16:51

that the the thing the navy interested

16:53

in was that it designed to be able to carry

16:55

small fighter small of

16:57

these planes good sparrowhawk switch when i

17:00

think small little biplanes

17:02

that but good fit in at least three

17:04

of the amount of of can be revealing to that can fit him five

17:06

the idea was that us is acro would fly

17:08

overhead lower a little hook

17:11

from which the fighter plane is dangling

17:14

just retract the hook plane flies

17:16

off and unit months israeli flights

17:18

and then they fly back snag onto

17:21

the hook once again and retracted

17:23

into the belly of asset did the actually

17:25

really good at nine say ground games like

17:27

as if it doesn't say it am it heard

17:29

she i quite precise when we didn't have

17:31

worse i'm at

17:34

so it works that at could deploy

17:36

these planes i think the hook facility

17:39

did work but that the i'm in the

17:41

river the reason we're not using a business of basically

17:43

what's that assets obviously went very

17:45

far out of fashion this lasted two years before a crash

17:47

that killed over seventy people including one

17:50

of the main for as

17:52

ship development and expansion so that

17:54

it would be as a minute and what we all know you

17:56

know the assets that a bit of a rough ride the as

17:58

well as a parent carrier the month ago i get

18:01

yeah i can let me that we have i'm

18:03

struck with affected the

18:05

t proponent for airships guys

18:07

in the destruction of the

18:09

airship as kind of model for dealing

18:11

with that inventors

18:14

captain goes down with

18:16

the ship model and math yeah yeah it is

18:18

only i really was easier for her make

18:20

sense of the hundreds ,

18:22

vs images is a is a is

18:24

a famous dick gregory joke i am helps

18:26

us with the gregory are easy i have that i'd

18:29

amazing he's six hundred characters

18:31

he talked ponies in the army army

18:33

cool nature's to many five dollars he

18:35

still had no idea they would it with now

18:38

i know why the captain goes down with the ship ah

18:43

i'm an inequity guy isn't

18:45

it years out of the modern day

18:47

that guy of and the way when i

18:49

read said on his like way sorry i

18:51

thought

18:52

why it ventral the of one of the big

18:54

cycling company has a hundred the identity of the

18:56

actual event yeah no i was sort of the guys

18:59

miss her eyebrows miss hearing the word segue

19:01

i really thought you could say we have

19:03

you know as an of the segway with

19:05

the covers i just wanna go out , night

19:08

here's an affair as as guide

19:10

halfway through try to i also i also

19:13

a he was impaled on he was

19:16

just as i said

19:20

just one of the thing about the accurate one of the

19:22

other features that has a divorce isn't unique to

19:24

it this was actually a thing that have been invented a couple of

19:26

decades before on other assets at a spy

19:28

basket as it does read about this

19:31

as , observation boss guess that hangs

19:33

beneath the body of the airship nine

19:35

the principal was as you're flying

19:37

your asset but you want to be a observing

19:40

the ground but discreetly as you have the obviously huge

19:43

so the idea was you hide the asp in the cloud

19:45

low the spy basket on a on

19:47

a cable a for several

19:50

hundred meters in some cases and

19:52

there was someone sitting in this my boss get who

19:54

watches the ground can

19:56

radio backup tell the toby aspx

19:58

itself wet ago or

19:59

the nearing the target or whatever fun and

20:02

the aggro have one of these

20:03

them it was a disaster

20:06

they were tested one with sand bags

20:08

and as

20:15

it was so unstable this i'm

20:18

a little observation basket that not swaying

20:20

in the wind on this great long cable right sweet

20:22

so much that it swayed up to the equator

20:24

level of the entire ash and co

20:27

, you out know i'm yeah

20:31

that'd be fun it'd be like that right theme

20:33

to yeah

20:36

it would have really really really lot

20:39

of my side i needed i they were hiding and clouds

20:41

because we know is the speed of a cloud

20:44

like you'd have to mean heinous be right so

20:46

you them turned out on the could also go

20:48

with the clouds and have to the cloud might not

20:50

be flying towards your bombing target yeah

20:53

well we have well different the

20:55

clouds the country know it

20:57

only works in overcrowded areas

20:59

to right so you're limited sure what it clear that

21:02

military operation yeah northern and

21:05

you know parts of the yeah yeah

21:07

here's the yeah that manchester can't

21:10

do without giving them that much why not just

21:12

the scholars the blimp just the scholars why

21:15

i thrive on some floss

21:19

and why that that is your background right it's

21:22

all this up speaking of appealing myself

21:24

and attention yeah why

21:26

did the internet people call the place where they store

21:28

all your most valuable knowledge

21:31

and data the cloud mn yeah

21:33

all of the metaphor this

21:35

is the worse or you're right yes a

21:37

cloud is a flighty plane

21:39

fly through them all the time clouds are routinely

21:42

violated in ,

21:44

air that to that ephemeral they

21:46

are totally a number that's the thing

21:49

that we're going to call it call class or all been there

21:51

are many people are seeing what's the we

21:53

want metaphor safe place we put your

21:55

data the it was yeah

21:57

somebody says yeah bank in

22:00

some of his son who now regrets that as

22:03

a half hour until among the group whose

22:05

like called , the cloud the i

22:07

mean i guess i should sort of the paper bag

22:09

why to say say

22:12

of nothing images it's unbelievable

22:14

feel so right that's lindsay the negative

22:16

connotations isn't that a very temporary

22:19

oh and likes them and i would

22:22

say oh thank god it's a cloudy day and

22:26

he that military planes generally you

22:29

and sort of ask questions and

22:31

questions didn't talk about the soviet night which

22:33

is never on this

22:34

okay

22:36

i know that these they were eighth

22:38

all female escutcheon and world war two

22:40

and say i think

22:42

it was one woman you

22:44

know sort of pitch to

22:46

clinton said

22:48

modify them planes they food is incredibly

22:50

light plane to their mates five very very low

22:53

as dangerous they're made of just plywood

22:55

and canvas that they have to be soleil

22:57

so they couldn't have any armor

23:00

they can nominee parachute something like that like

23:02

that women that she just to the map and compass

23:04

up in these planes and the key

23:06

and the reason lance be so light was cause

23:09

they could stall i think quite a long

23:11

way from their targets and sort of drift

23:14

close the saga was month

23:15

the very quiet but

23:17

, are they were the what sorry what they have a

23:19

voice finds a bonafide blinds and

23:22

could be of our planet are gonna be like yeah i

23:24

mean and her not letting on have a parish out as

23:26

a reply reply chi been

23:28

so there was some way the parachute overheard

23:30

is very leonard to be as a very light

23:32

very has won both you i

23:34

give me a power to with as we saw the photos

23:37

and , league the homeless from the

23:40

and then it to they don't twenty three thousand tons of bombs

23:42

in the woolas

23:44

the weird thing is that name the night

23:46

which is your brother can sell an older sources

23:48

even by the say this that that

23:50

they whoop their names and which is by the

23:52

germans atherton saxon

23:55

and was apparently they named

23:57

than that because of the sounds a maze because

24:00

they quiet they just washing like

24:02

a broomstick spot though apparently

24:04

we are to believe that they will see

24:06

called the night which is because of that

24:08

and that's complete current

24:09

you know is i'm on that site when

24:12

daisy said in ninety nine problems

24:14

a bit saying one was about his dog

24:18

no he's not really

24:20

that you , know

24:22

don't know i'm probably going to another my i just

24:24

i'm i'm canada about women's but

24:26

my dog source a

24:29

only serves as

24:30

the difference between jay z and

24:32

the nazis here is that it doesn't have

24:34

to the nazis can see it as a planes

24:37

i would have known that

24:38

that woman find them with the nazis call

24:40

them network

24:40

yeah they named

24:41

yeah

24:44

and i got to where they consume

24:46

come to that the women's clothes for the they didn't have

24:48

any

24:48

that of pilot place women

24:50

i they tore their bedding and stuff the

24:52

into the shoes they will so they would fit was

24:54

a while hear about were

24:56

like and always enough and buy me a car in wellington

24:59

the for firstly aca we

25:01

have to us by that

25:02

you know you're trying to drive earth and the

25:05

instrument in know very comfortable says

25:07

i'm surprised i'm us anything

25:08

true and of when did you last i think

25:11

our when i say like when

25:13

, noticed the one detail in the summer is a good

25:15

run to is the fact that they didn't have comfortable

25:17

shoes i would have in

25:20

midst of problems is them and house flying

25:22

over enemy territory surrounds this

25:24

instance the kansas airplane this airplane

25:28

this side this the chance

25:31

of being killed gruesome late first

25:34

problem sixty second processing

25:36

i that goes beyond summer because you know when

25:38

humans have a bigger from but you cannot depends on how

25:40

you've got a how in your your

25:43

attention a very many with a sense

25:45

of having must make a proper the of actually earlier this

25:48

month or something is wrong here as month or summer

25:50

winter when i was doing

25:53

i'm one

25:56

of these it i was struck by all over

25:58

again is what these pilots

25:59

when in a second world war is just

26:02

in retrospect completely

26:04

unbelievable what we estimate

26:07

what you mean the danger with

26:09

are you a disaster seemingly

26:11

us with you take a twenty

26:13

year old kid put

26:15

him through x number of

26:17

months of training fly him over to

26:20

his americans slime over to europe and

26:22

he goes on these missions were statistically

26:25

the chance of surviving years

26:27

herm

26:28

your who are zero he know

26:30

they know the death rates right there now and

26:32

year up at twenty thousand seat where freezing

26:35

cold many planes are not

26:37

pressurized or he did

26:39

or your ear the

26:43

bombardier is sitting in this little thing that's

26:45

exposed to air german

26:47

fighters are coming at any suspects that

26:50

the the all didn't have ptsd as a starting to

26:52

me i mean is there are the know you

26:54

do you do your he do a twelve

26:56

hour or whatever mission over germany

26:58

you fly back to some freezing cold

27:01

you know unheeded airbase in some of the south

27:04

of england you get four hours sleep

27:06

and then you do it again yeah yeah and you keep

27:08

doing it for like we i mean

27:09

recruited think insane

27:11

the me that this yeah yeah this is what

27:13

we were i mean maybe they did many

27:15

only a twenty year old

27:17

up with that kind of fun and ,

27:20

that was but planes the

27:22

importance the planes had particularly in world war

27:25

two pretty staggering so

27:27

at one point during thirty nineteen to nineteen

27:29

forty five am ally factories

27:31

were building six hundred and thirty three

27:33

thousand aircraft in that time to

27:35

they were pumping them out at two hundred and eighty

27:37

hundred and per day and

27:40

this was a they would just trying to work

27:42

out how do we how do we come

27:44

up with a new kind of plane that's going

27:46

to just be the game changer in this war soaps

27:48

in this period as well two hundred fifty

27:51

new designs were all kills

27:53

us and sloan just to see whether or not

27:55

they could get one over on the enemy

27:57

and it was one plane in particular which

27:59

was the p that the one mustang which

28:01

was the absolute game changer during war

28:04

i when was and snow defying the american

28:06

started flying that in over germany not with

28:08

the moment where basically the realized

28:11

they were gonna lose the war during set

28:13

himself he said when i saw the mustangs over berlin

28:16

i need the jig was up

28:17

yeah you're like i don't like say

28:19

i would say they do a happy is

28:22

he wouldn't have known the phrase the biggest he

28:25

, he oh spaghetti oh oh

28:29

really susan we got you have you going

28:32

right now that i'm not that the other qualities and

28:34

other brain going

28:37

in was ssssss are

28:39

today hailing ourselves of a test your

28:42

record for every time you said that said sincerely

28:45

atlanta about

28:46

one of the orient phrase and mobile to

28:49

was specifically for the in touch of interrupting

28:51

one of his speeches so it wasn't the third zuni

28:53

bombing anything this the nineteen forty three and

28:55

it was a huge feet and bolland commemorate

28:57

ten years fit the being in power and

28:59

going with gonna make this big keynote speech on

29:02

the planet to fly a bunch of mosquitoes

29:04

through the clouds above really

29:06

really near to them

29:07

sign the basically want to see

29:09

to think broadcast it would take up the sound

29:11

of the rf that of attacking the world

29:14

junior this eleven an animal

29:17

lover mosquitoes unbelievable planes

29:19

will say though made upload and they were made los

29:21

about hop into england

29:24

yeah yeah phillippe on robbie that some of so

29:26

much when this happened and and the cause his speech

29:29

because they thought the sounds really bad now he's using

29:31

and of us invasion you know said something

29:33

like a com believes his bloody brits

29:35

got seven carpenters and like peace please

29:37

and they're out of country and we can't

29:39

do anything like era

29:41

the young devito anything about the jake

29:43

and where he thought it might be whether this

29:46

is else has

29:49

biggest

29:53

i'm like i read this other thing as well just

29:56

going back to psychology of of the

29:58

pilots that were being used that that was series

30:00

of spy planes as is in the sixties is a

30:02

bit later i'm the blackbird

30:04

we've spoken about before in the so in the a twelve

30:06

and these room like high flying

30:09

spy planes that they really

30:11

really didn't how people a mouse and there's

30:13

a rumor that went around with quite a few historians

30:15

of substantiated said was truth is

30:17

that during the interview process they would

30:19

only hire pilots who were married

30:22

so that they had the reason to

30:24

come back

30:25

because they had they had a bunch of defectors

30:28

at this point has , right palm

30:30

as as as to how was married to

30:32

say i value you could have says

30:35

the other way

30:43

okay fine for fact number three and

30:45

that is my facts my fact with week

30:47

is that there is marathon in new york

30:49

that takes so long to complete runners

30:51

can go through up to twenty pairs of shoes

30:54

while they're trying to run its and

30:56

the old is it to the not say i don't

30:58

remember i didn't think about yes

31:01

this is an amazing thing i'm

31:03

and your mouth i'm you're a new york episode

31:05

one as had ever had heard

31:07

of i have one and run and

31:09

run as soon as self three

31:12

thousand one hundred mile race it's

31:14

as it's a race that goes round a block

31:17

in new york so in

31:19

total if he ran around the spot distances

31:22

point five four miles right fucking

31:24

but to complete this myerson you need to run

31:26

around the block fi thousand six hundred

31:29

and forty nine times you've ,

31:31

fifty two days and which to complete it

31:33

and runners will start at six am in the run

31:35

all the way through to midnight so soon

31:37

average of fifty fifty

31:39

nine and half kilometers per day and

31:42

if you managed to complete

31:44

what is the longest certified marathon

31:46

in the world

31:47

the get an amazing price which is usually

31:50

either a dvd or

31:57

yes this is incredible man

31:59

malcolm have you ever

32:01

the tempted you he leave

32:03

it was i've been to the root

32:06

access just one block so your eyes in queens

32:08

i say it isn't cleaned yes way i

32:11

love strange things happen in queens data

32:14

chief among them it's lunacy

32:16

this be clear in a normal

32:18

marathon is lunacy right i

32:20

don't know i've never thought about ivy have you that i would

32:22

never is not semi is is

32:24

no part of it's some random greek

32:28

you know thousands of years ago complete

32:30

this distance die and

32:33

then that as so we've seized on

32:35

this the kind of ultimate putting the great yes

32:37

this yes this about marathon expects

32:39

me i mean i'm very very serious runners

32:42

i just find it incomprehensible

32:44

that anyone other than

32:46

a kind of elite runner would ever even it

32:49

so when you say you're there is wanna do is short

32:51

distance the ring run or more

32:53

run you know if i race or and five case

32:55

or ten gays or miles yes but the

32:57

idea of going out there for hours on end

33:00

inevitably injuring myself while preparing for

33:02

it yeah and sacrificing huge

33:04

part says my life so i can go for

33:07

twenty mile runs on the weekend notice against

33:09

sciences think those i i i

33:12

don't regret very but i do think of running a

33:14

progression towards the marathon which

33:16

i have stopped at a very out he pointed as

33:18

an i don't i'm not making any more progress

33:20

toward the marathon when in the distance as i think

33:22

it's the marathon as the end gold saucer

33:25

yes or no either five endure

33:27

ten care that eventually the american as

33:29

a or you run three thousand miles out

33:31

six had

33:34

, say over like they saw that because he i've

33:36

been in new york when there's a marathon and obviously

33:39

like anywhere else may suffer city roads

33:41

down have all sorts of people

33:43

cheering on the sides these people do that the

33:45

do it everyday around his humor

33:47

and checking them on a giant

33:49

think so again but it's a very low key

33:52

the as basic literacy table where the

33:54

that either the race headquarters is yeah

33:56

headquarters it has kept with people as i don't know if they check

33:58

if actual laps or have been hagdom allen's

34:00

emma fifty two day say i have le mans

34:03

the someone to sit there from

34:06

six first thing in the morning

34:08

night to midnight yes there's a real

34:10

hero of the storyline and like that sorry

34:12

like him i see i that trials think think

34:16

they bought like the be the importance on and

34:18

on or i find that person lawrence in the

34:20

prison doing running yeah well

34:22

as person who can be convinced to take their jobs

34:25

paused or i enjoy that and i

34:27

and a fitness they asked

34:29

him whether they're him married that's

34:32

hundred and hang out of and as bad as

34:34

well as a supplement to get away

34:36

from two days it

34:39

is it think he needs to either an old

34:41

for running see the even to enter the race

34:43

really have they done to the can the slump

34:45

done says it says up to like he says a

34:47

dirt do i can see if i was

34:49

ever good enough rather to even consider entering

34:51

this i can see it getting a bit later you

34:54

are you miss a day they catch

34:56

later his final call fifty

34:58

days to do it how can it be that as deny

35:00

yeah yeah my my running friends and i have

35:02

some we called the keep choking number mucho

35:05

he being the world's going under him and the

35:07

keep chugging number is how long

35:10

you could run with keep jokey a

35:12

good job he was running world pace and

35:14

co right everyone has everyone

35:16

in the world has actually number you could jog integral maybe

35:20

you her right if

35:22

it's always the rule of i could soak

35:25

in every says they are shorter than you think

35:27

how long you know what you'll get soggy number is my

35:29

keep chugging numbers pero if i am sorry

35:31

sit is probably twelve hundred

35:33

me i'm pretty good

35:36

i wish i were in the sound related to this

35:39

so that the five k hop for and was

35:41

i think it's yeah the thing

35:43

here are many hundreds or thousands of people have

35:45

done it now and i

35:47

think they look at how many people over

35:49

five k in the park run at that

35:51

pace would have beaten get

35:53

soggy running his marathon pace

35:56

we're not running that the speed for twenty six

35:58

miles by yeah yeah but i never okay

35:59

and i think it's like a few

36:01

hundred people i've about

36:04

them out claire over that this and they're

36:06

serious either you be very good even keep up

36:08

the conservatives he's good he's yours

36:10

is that first episode of resisting it's nice

36:13

cause watching the marathon your schedule championship

36:16

hey these guys

36:17

the television and because they're all running

36:20

at the same pace as an illusion that

36:22

they're not running that fatten good idea

36:24

which you to resend like if you actually see them in

36:26

person it is astonishing

36:29

so hit you know they're running

36:30

or forty five mile pace

36:33

for twenty six consecutive my horses

36:36

i don't like respect for the the

36:39

achievement yeah achievement just think trying

36:41

to do it is

36:43

so if you're not ask your question is yes i

36:45

i do always find it amazing how many people that get

36:47

to do the marathon each year thirty

36:49

thousand people or of the same and i'm very

36:51

difficult directory of mexican meal

36:53

probably not i guess is is weird again

36:55

it's like to i'm you know it's a only about the goldilocks

36:58

like a social media moderate use

37:00

as good similarly study seems that

37:02

moderate exercise very good seat of this

37:04

less extreme exercise like ultra mouth

37:06

and running doesn't seem speed as a good doesn't

37:09

really concern anymore health been around if you're running

37:11

extremely long distances and people do have

37:13

these are unbelievable hallucinations

37:16

they collapse i think so

37:18

that americans you're talking about

37:20

usually more ultramarathons i'm

37:22

here though is posthumous see

37:25

is a champion cel run us i'm

37:27

an see we see one the twenty

37:29

nineteen mom things

37:30

by race which is a big i'm up and down of

37:32

mountains osama

37:33

then and see so got

37:36

fleas nations and silver best oh my so

37:38

minute on was expressing death milk way

37:40

i think religious his two hundred and sixty eight

37:43

miles and had an evil

37:44

the the movies the baby isn't

37:46

the baby with thing run alongside her

37:48

by her partner

37:49

that looks at it

37:51

i am

37:54

of over we should say about food this

37:56

food this race has killed they wouldn't call the

37:58

self transcendence says untenable

38:00

does your tip off right there ah

38:03

, i'm stuck transcend this after didn't

38:05

do it until we should say the guy who

38:08

has found that his name yeah

38:10

three tim nice yeah so use it

38:12

is very gory gory yet they're shooting

38:14

know races around the world now here

38:16

and akbar he was extraordinary yeah

38:19

as it the read a bit about his life story so he

38:21

he so friends had a through and

38:24

as a result did all these you know amazing

38:26

feats he lifted extraordinary weights

38:28

and slams he lifted plane

38:30

for no no answer i yeah i can see

38:32

for you have original aircraft carrier has

38:36

, foot is really kind of funny

38:38

thing it kind of called listing up the world where

38:40

the oneness heart okay what i was killed he

38:42

went around the world bench pressing significant

38:45

people have distributed to human

38:47

history so and

38:50

he lifted eight thousand people around the world he

38:52

lifted nelson mandela wow desmond

38:54

tutu billie jean king then

38:57

i read that go a goes a bit like the list it's

38:59

susan sarandon mcconnell that's a good as any my

39:01

name's eddie murphy eddie murphy eddie murphy

39:04

evident ravi shankar several had

39:06

stayed richard gere sting advocate

39:10

jesse jackson is either wrestler former

39:12

wrestler is wrestler is biggie jeff goldblum

39:15

organ gotta lift elderly live about

39:18

it does feel like weird thing to do with migraines

39:20

globo people to get together point one

39:23

he lists the republican and

39:25

democrat at the same saw now yeah

39:27

yeah to express peace yeah

39:30

is actually yeah has crossed passes

39:32

through finally friends he

39:35

, from india and when the same

39:37

tools yeah he were to be indian consulate

39:39

certainly or when he was and that's why he moved to

39:41

america so he may other nineteen sixty four

39:44

and and , an

39:46

extraordinary as is in a crunch fitness

39:48

character with this

39:50

huge fan base i'm can

39:53

i'm just quickly mention quickly saw just quickly view

39:55

a sort of a younger college version

39:57

of you during a run on i your and

40:00

you were doing an attempt at the for minute mile

40:02

basically or leafy were running a mile

40:05

and and you got a number of

40:07

, and i with a with a high school early

40:10

days of high school any reason was

40:12

around the city hundred meters yes but i have

40:14

nowhere close to one minute mile which is a grown

40:16

up activity grown up epic i

40:19

think iran death for a something fifteen

40:21

hundred meter oh really very different

40:23

fam

40:24

you vote for something

40:26

for a life of me

40:28

says for as forty is pretty

40:31

is pretty peeked is a runner at food either of

40:33

you know assessment with some him to stay

40:35

rethink the idea that there was something

40:37

i could do it for team which i can't do

40:39

they do better than at any point in my life is

40:41

yeah are , gonna

40:43

hurting someone tells you then headed headed

40:46

or or thought about

40:50

six years of

40:53

we the hundred and plus young club

40:55

long for he was like else

40:57

the and hero this young the

40:59

he ran the city to melbourne ultramarathons

41:02

at in it's noble years nice eighty three

41:04

as is a mobile yep it's eight hundred

41:06

hello mrs mile and we run

41:08

we took the journey we we flew

41:10

we did when we have to get from one today

41:13

other quite quickly so would have been threatened kill

41:15

your heart see from sir on the have otherwise

41:17

he have been better fit for

41:19

anyway so nice eighty three is no

41:21

gray said the world's top run as go and say

41:23

they'll try doing this wrong they've all got the training

41:26

they've tried running this distances the soul and

41:28

basically the price of established that you

41:30

run eighteen hours a day any sleep

41:33

for six hours a day and you'll do

41:35

it and i think you know five six seven days

41:37

that are funny how you go as they

41:39

will turn up and this guy turns out to the

41:41

sixty one year old farmer who cliff young

41:44

and he's were ring as willing

41:46

to and he's wearing like farming over

41:49

i'm just before he thought he puts on the first

41:51

as a pair of running shoes he's ever owned and

41:54

, took out his teeth because of

41:57

or has of or when he run

41:59

the episode

41:59

the australia let's

42:05

leave it on his hat with the cool can you

42:07

tell me i said mrs

42:09

the dotted know you thought his

42:11

shuffling alone incredibly slowly and everyone

42:14

like left him in at dusk you super

42:16

silly but he didn't sleep

42:19

he had a different sources a he was a seat

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farmer and the at two thousand acres of land you

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days on end sometimes herding sheep chasing

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telling us the her and that is is or isn't all hating

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42:43

young the torches the that hoses i

42:45

thought about going down

42:46

i'm not using credit

42:48

we did he win

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he went through a lot he'd the

42:51

nearest competitor by ten hours of

42:54

these way way way ahead

42:56

sixty one years old son now

42:59

everyone does it his way

43:00

apply for the sleeping maybe

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one hour a night for

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, laying like

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he's like i'm to member i

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remembered i david brickhouse broke

43:10

off his the committee on of

43:13

the backstroke earlier

43:16

really backstroke you jump off

43:17

you dive into the water and then you surface

43:20

of a movement here broke off

43:22

realizes l actually it's faster

43:24

to swim underwater than on top

43:27

so the burqa sides

43:30

dies in and it isn't surface until

43:32

you're thirty seven as the rice and

43:34

he he breaks the world record and they eventually

43:37

ban

43:37

you actually

43:38

equip young though he realizes if there's a

43:40

flaw yeah in the way

43:43

people are yeah yeah yeah i'm just

43:45

talking about they have they have off so you said that was backstroke

43:48

right backstroke so are you

43:50

allowed to do another stroke underwater

43:52

know i i i could be wrong yeah i think you to a

43:54

dolphin kick you do the dolphin kick yeah on

43:56

then they'll figure it out to run on be

43:59

allowed to be on your front

43:59

i'm doing back because you been there are you

44:02

start in the water and you go back

44:04

iraq yeah yeah

44:06

, underwater doing a dolphin homicide

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services later it's called the berkoff blast

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berkoff that's amazing

44:14

i haven't be really so that

44:16

why

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44:19

only with some in the money goes into the

44:21

country up and down maneuvering must

44:23

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44:26

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44:28

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44:30

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44:33

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44:35

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44:37

we are like , was avoided avoided

44:40

he basically made the full unwatchable you're

44:42

just watching he did other a very willing to see

44:44

where and when he surfaces or yeah

44:47

he where do you do is associated with suspense

44:49

film that makes so you watch it

44:51

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44:53

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44:55

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44:58

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45:04

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arena makes you think how many things we take

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for where we could be smashing and

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48:08

okay it is time for final fact

48:10

with the show and that is anna

48:12

my thought this week is that given the choice

48:15

most people would prefer to win ten

48:17

million dollars rather than a hundred

48:19

billion dollars

48:21

right i'm so let's see here guys

48:24

i'm going to all of you yeah this is

48:26

a i'm a of both

48:28

are such as it's published in nature and

48:30

else eight thousand people across thirty three countries

48:33

that quite comprehensive and it said

48:35

imagine your ideal line and then

48:37

consider how much money you want to leave the

48:39

ideal life and then you've got a lottery

48:41

that you can enter

48:43

and are you the with it he got a bunch of

48:45

us race and and he probably going

48:46

it and either the lottery where the

48:49

don't ten thousand dollars says

48:51

all american but they adjusted it's a currencies

48:53

in that country's ten thousand dollars and an

48:56

increase i moved to the ten said sigma ten

48:58

thousand hundred thousand nine

49:00

ten million and the highest with a hundred billion

49:03

what would you got

49:04

the billion

49:05

you to of hundred bill yeah not

49:08

i totally i ten million

49:11

are you guys

49:13

the last

49:14

you wanna do is win one hundred billion dollars that

49:16

, like a nightmare scenario my sister

49:20

sister stand what would what if

49:23

i have that money i'd see a reference

49:25

to be like identified be suffer every

49:29

single part of your life gets more

49:31

complicated by a thousand percent

49:33

right musk is only great fall

49:36

asleep the people that they've been walk

49:38

down the street that's true but you can't do that

49:40

is your that is taking his regards

49:42

seeking his own tunnel that he won't need to go

49:45

that who has to give me more suited

49:47

more a vacuum tube along under the stories

49:49

that we can say with one hundred percent

49:51

certainty that you would be profoundly unhappy

49:54

okafor variety of reasons one

49:56

unhappy the main ones is that

49:58

the

49:58

the liberation the decisions

50:02

that you would have to make would overwhelm

50:04

you answer with money this is a

50:06

this is the cost of well threat the hidden cost

50:08

of wealth is that for most people

50:11

the decision about whether to do an activity

50:13

is whether i

50:16

can willing forty when

50:18

you have money all of a sudden

50:20

hand turn into wants

50:23

do i want to do that do

50:25

i wanna do that is a much more complicated

50:28

there's even a choice as to as endless choice

50:30

so you have nina of every decision

50:32

life that used to be

50:34

can has now turned into a want so

50:37

you are paralyzed right

50:39

now you going to have lunch after this bus right

50:41

yeah you're not gonna go have lunch claridges

50:45

are you know now why

50:48

well a number of reasons but what

50:50

is you don't want rak all of a over there

50:52

to with there's no point to spending eighty

50:54

pounds on lunch three why

50:56

do want to hang out with those people those your ah

50:59

okay i had been in one thousand dollars

51:01

since i've removed you have a driver

51:03

now css knowing any

51:05

good you can go to the airport getting

51:08

your plane and fly to skip lunch in paris

51:10

yeah when at once intense unless

51:14

, spiraled out of control every and then

51:16

you gotta let's grace as fuck

51:18

fuck shit you're getting upset after to really get a certificate

51:21

a as a descriptive as

51:23

an hour energy trying to put me off as me

51:25

as it's a nightmare

51:27

think the most kind of and

51:30

dine

51:31

choi video would have today where

51:33

to have lunch and now i've given you an

51:36

internet set of risk of options

51:38

just because you have one hundred billion yeah so can

51:40

even lunch but how

51:42

hard it hard burden of the size

51:44

what we were done is a million other things

51:46

will happen

51:47

the i'm going to chicago for every single

51:49

one of them is now but most of son thousand

51:51

for just want to use it specifically

51:53

for e bay auction so i can just make sure

51:55

i set a limit of one hundred billion have never

51:57

known as am i also had a as

51:59

a height of the dick gregory memorabilia

52:02

about i'm gonna go wildly out proportion

52:05

say if you collect city i do

52:07

like collect things yes i don't think i've i've

52:09

now removed a hundred percent of the

52:11

joy of collecting

52:12

there are no longer any can make a point you know long have to

52:14

make any decisions because by everything yeah

52:17

god he wouldn't either any of the luck crap the

52:19

have that no sane person says anyway he

52:22

because the guy

52:23

gonna go visit ,

52:25

i know i don't know but it's it is pretty interesting

52:28

what would you do andy sorry since we got the others

52:31

cause for the first hundred

52:33

that's very unusual the anything

52:36

the in the study it really peaks

52:38

at ten million so most

52:40

people asked for ten million or below

52:42

their some countries like i think russia

52:45

and india where the majority choose one million dollars

52:47

or less positive the grass

52:50

and it peaks arts ten million

52:52

and then it and then there are quite are lot of people they

52:54

still choose one hundred billion or they're not majority

52:56

so majority ranges between eight percent of in

52:59

china to thirty nine percent of people indonesia

53:01

two hundred billions of between some in hundred

53:04

billion is hardly anyone i

53:06

guess cause ten million seems to me like

53:08

like mouth i'm saying like it's kind of reasonable

53:10

amount why you

53:11

liberating i have an incredible house

53:13

and and travel and see the world a

53:16

worse and actually one hundred million is a life deforming

53:18

or has substantially des moines amount of money on on

53:20

your friend that hundred billion yen of yeah having

53:24

a bit and i guess is it is a pill

53:26

that is that out of the other i was outside

53:29

a get out of the hell kind of this feature

53:32

not a both ah

53:34

what would i do by the way what would you did was

53:36

he does well

53:38

why did always of who these is that the

53:40

temptation is to say have it all so that you come

53:42

to give it all away but then that's when organ probably

53:44

wesson to think the i know better

53:46

were to give money than

53:48

yep governments or bill gates or further

53:51

i'm i plan to smoke at all the money traveling without

53:53

lifting people i chose

53:55

be a , day with

53:58

a hundred bridget lifted the one of the world women

54:00

you're special and they turn into the president

54:02

of cc

54:03

admiral hundred and i mean likes likes recently

54:06

i just travel around the world i lived during that hillary

54:08

get a ticket the i'm up for it on your feet i

54:10

was and seven i target has to

54:12

have no one yes and it's

54:14

and lot some studies about the psychology

54:17

of wealth and one

54:19

of them i but i i quite liked his would

54:21

you go public if he won the lottery and

54:24

again again i think i know what you're going to welcome

54:26

to disaster yet another absolute will

54:28

public venues definitely in china that only two percent

54:30

of people say they woods public

54:33

the the fuck they want you free invariably

54:35

the problem

54:36

you can't knock go public

54:38

because every one of your choices is

54:40

conspicuous or something

54:43

will be idling downstairs right well as driver

54:46

doesn't , you're not taking

54:48

the to with one hundred billion data you're

54:50

not you're this is driving me nuts front

54:55

of your position yet you're not even

54:57

hear you know wait let me ask you can yeah

54:59

yeah are you enjoying this right now enjoying love to see

55:01

you your job but yeah yeah and you

55:03

enjoy enjoy this afternoon this taping

55:05

say that this believe they can give it to do but yeah

55:08

how do you have you you enjoy a of coffee

55:10

i all of that scott yeah

55:13

you have one hundred billion dollars you don't do this job anymore

55:16

anyway well that'd be

55:18

that'd the fifty nine fifty nine percent of people

55:20

right to percent said they go public fifty

55:22

nine percent of people said they were they would remain

55:24

them all of us are not even their friends then

55:27

i think see that they are ,

55:29

to talk next i of as i that's how does it gold

55:31

plated missouri missouri

55:34

buy everything to do with have such as good as a

55:36

neighborhood or even higher as replace

55:38

me replace me over the

55:42

bus and shriver and i go be best a billionaire

55:44

that will we should definitely do that or is

55:48

do single

55:49

the biggest drawback day and one hundred million

55:51

that is you have to hang out with out of oh

55:54

my god you didn't know it you handle know

55:56

that sheriff is never met of night out

55:58

that anyone who understand oh

56:00

yeah

56:01

the wound

56:03

howdy i believe it's in wyoming montana

56:06

no billionaires in any other a while

56:08

with they all live

56:10

and they have their personal offices

56:12

there with their charities

56:14

know else can afford to live if they

56:17

out everyone has the billionaire everyone

56:19

has a suitable yes dry like methodist

56:22

methodist aunt town it's and they all have

56:24

eternal optimist but of course who spending

56:26

a charitable on here if is only billionaires

56:29

i didn't have enough is yeah right this

56:32

is an endless is absurd that

56:34

they live in response is that's where you get it that's

56:36

will will will this

56:42

is another serve another you gov survey you

56:44

tests famous rap lyrics

56:47

d think it is or is not true that the more

56:49

money you have the more problems he has twelve

56:51

percent said is true that more is more problems

56:54

than sixty for the vessels the moment i'm a problem

56:56

what you say it's not a linear relationship

56:58

use it for the goldilocks

57:00

finity send to say don't lay lay certain amount

57:03

of while sending off an assassin decline

57:05

again

57:05

i think the global average

57:07

is it's about seventy

57:10

grand seventy thousand dollars

57:13

for like emotional wellbeing and then it's ninety

57:15

five

57:15

with an older that income a for they

57:17

think i'm sorry have been year salary

57:20

yeah man thoughts in terms of

57:22

like life satisfaction less evaluation

57:24

it's been ninety size so people

57:27

proud or i spoke to the a little bit more even

57:29

though still be it's a p to

57:31

day with that let's say

57:33

wouldn't on do on be proud of how much you earn on john

57:35

oliver north but either way it's

57:37

are you know what kind of it can also deliver

57:40

the talk of it's very me the

57:42

way for my ass yeah

57:46

who are misguided yeah

57:51

i'm so it's pretty fun study done by geico pool

57:53

test who into the effects

57:55

well on people and looks into how

57:57

it actually kind of makes us nina

58:00

get a he sent results

58:02

just hide in a bush in california i'm

58:04

on look at cause that went by and then judge

58:06

how expensive they they'll and

58:08

then there's the a further up the road i think

58:10

who is just crossing the zebra crossing back

58:12

and forth on in california illegally

58:15

have to stop people across the zebra crossing like

58:17

here and he cooks the

58:19

types of call and then whether

58:21

they stopped for the pedestrians and

58:23

in the cheapest kind of degree of call every

58:26

single cost up to the pedestrians across

58:28

as you're supposed to the most expensive constantly

58:30

of call how many would you think

58:32

the top and how many words try past

58:34

but when you start of the most expensive category

58:37

just sixty percent

58:38

sixty percent do you your clothes with fifty fifty

58:42

percent , the most expensive cost just drive just

58:44

break the law and drive straight over the

58:46

zebra crossing on the bus and go

58:48

you down know who this guy

58:50

and i don't know this

58:53

is an the car how to decipher

58:55

about that doesn't matter as as muslims

58:57

out of

58:59

the can i give you one more survey about how people react

59:02

to well i really like us on and

59:04

to the it's a great question to ask if you

59:06

accidentally paid three hundred more

59:08

than your monthly what monthly

59:10

be most likely to do

59:13

phase of thing and return the money

59:15

they nothing but return the money if asked

59:19

tried , spend all moves

59:21

of america is about

59:23

stay at your job yeah

59:25

or take the money and leave your job

59:27

so

59:29

i've been open open season

59:31

will you going to find out

59:33

they're going to out and the ask you to repay the money

59:35

and three as time when he spent all money that's

59:37

the alone

59:38

i'll give you that is amazing sixty two percent

59:40

of people said they say something in return the money here

59:43

twenty percent of people surveyed say nothing a retard

59:45

the money if asked and then we get

59:47

her a lot of his the regular people

59:50

would take the money elites a job they said they would do

59:52

the two percent of people they would

59:54

take money tied immediately tied will

59:56

move it at also keep their jobs which

59:58

jobs which by the society

59:59

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