The Siberian Ice Maiden and The Tisul Princess: Fact or Fiction

The Siberian Ice Maiden and The Tisul Princess: Fact or Fiction

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0:38

Welcome everybody in wcz radio.com

0:40

channel ones down the rabbit

0:42

hole on Big D And

0:44

I'm Brandon. It's good to have

0:47

everybody along as usual We have

0:49

a brand new episode for you

0:51

today. I hope you enjoyed the

0:53

Star Seed children episodes I got

0:55

a lot of comments about that

0:58

I think it really opened a

1:00

lot of people's eyes to sort of

1:02

the state That we're in you know

1:04

we always talk about the younger

1:06

generation being not quite in step

1:09

with us every generation looks at

1:11

the next generation and says They got

1:13

it so easy They're not like we were

1:15

and there is some truth to that But

1:17

this is a monumental shift what's going on

1:20

now, and I think it woke a lot

1:22

of people up to what they're seeing

1:24

out there and connecting some dots

1:26

Yeah, there was a lot of things

1:29

there when I'm like researching that just

1:31

like The fact that people

1:33

believe this scares me. And

1:35

there's a lot of people

1:37

who do believe that. So

1:39

if you haven't heard it,

1:41

go back and listen to

1:43

that series. Today we're going

1:46

to talk about a couple

1:48

of topics that are related

1:50

in a way. We're going

1:52

to start with one that

1:54

is absolute fact. It's true.

1:56

It's real. And then one that

1:59

if true. is

2:01

wild very wild and

2:03

could change the way we

2:05

view our past humanity

2:08

and maybe give some

2:10

credence to some

2:12

theories that are out there

2:15

regarding how we got

2:17

here what kind of knowledge

2:20

they had and so forth

2:22

because it's very very

2:25

interesting and

2:27

so Before we get into

2:29

that, one reminds you,

2:31

you can email us

2:33

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2:35

protonmail.com, down the RH@protonmail.com,

2:37

let's get into it. Let's

2:39

do this. First up, let's talk

2:42

about the Siberian Ice Maiden, and

2:44

this is an absolute

2:46

true story, and it's

2:48

fascinating. I mean, it's

2:50

amazing the way that

2:52

everything happened perfectly, to make

2:54

it so that we could get. what

2:56

we got now. If I ever go on

2:59

a big trip again, if I've

3:01

tripped across this area I would

3:03

definitely stop and see this and

3:05

I know it's kind of hit and

3:07

miss sometimes they allow you to

3:10

view this body other times they

3:12

don't because they don't like to

3:14

turn the lights on and it's

3:16

very very fragile and so forth

3:19

but this would be fascinating to

3:21

stare into history like this

3:23

Siberian ice maiden. Yeah, I mean

3:26

it is fascinating. So

3:28

according to all accounts

3:30

in archaeology They claim

3:32

that this is one

3:34

of the greatest

3:37

archaeological discoveries of the

3:39

20th century and It's fairly

3:41

new. I mean, it's pretty new

3:43

to the world it happened

3:46

in 1993 which it's not

3:48

that long ago and there

3:50

was a doctor Natalia Polismac

3:53

of the Novosiberics Institute

3:56

of Archaeology

3:58

and she was leading a team

4:00

of archaeologists into the

4:02

Eurasian step because of rumors

4:05

of some grave robberies. They had

4:07

been out there they had discovered

4:09

some stuff and then they were

4:11

catching rumors that people either followed

4:14

them or found out where they

4:16

were and they were out there robbing

4:18

these graves because you know a

4:20

lot of times you find valuable

4:23

stuff or artifacts and they put

4:25

them on the black market and

4:27

make a ton of money. which you

4:29

know goes back to when I was talking

4:32

you know in the the last midweek where

4:34

I talked about the the crystal skulls that's

4:36

why those were so much because people grave

4:38

robins say oh this is from this

4:40

time and that's something that was happening

4:42

there they were trying to get in

4:45

there and get things that they could sell.

4:47

So this doctor and her team they show

4:49

up and they begin digging it's in

4:51

the Alty Mountains which is near

4:53

the border of Russia China and

4:56

Kazakhstan It's now called the Alti

4:58

Republic. It's A-L-T-A-I, I believe

5:00

that's how you say that,

5:02

Alti Republic. And they

5:05

found something from 2,500

5:07

years ago. 2,500 years

5:09

ago. That's pretty amazing.

5:12

Yeah. Mind you, this is frozen

5:14

tundra. Everything's permafrost.

5:18

It's Siberia, basically. I

5:20

mean, it's awful. And

5:22

they were digging and

5:24

they discovered this large

5:26

ice block under some

5:28

dirt. They believed that

5:30

in this mountain range when

5:33

it would snow and then

5:35

freeze and then thaw out

5:37

and then freeze again the

5:39

water would seep down and

5:41

basically cause these

5:44

huge underground ice blocks

5:46

like sheets big long sheets

5:48

of of ice. So they found

5:51

this. Block of ice with

5:53

a body in it a

5:55

well-preserved body in this ice. I

5:57

can't imagine what that was like.

5:59

I can't imagine, you know,

6:01

you're on an archaeology site,

6:04

you're chipping away, you're digging,

6:06

and you come across, you know, these

6:08

big sheets of ice, and you look

6:10

down in there, and there's a

6:12

person who's stuck in this ice. You

6:14

don't know anything about this person,

6:16

what time frame they're from, you

6:18

have no idea, and how do you

6:21

get them out? And that's the

6:23

hard part, I mean, that's one of

6:25

things that, you know, they really talk

6:27

about, trying to trying to get her,

6:30

get her out and get

6:32

her somewhere preserved without losing

6:34

the how preserved she was

6:37

yes so how they did it

6:39

was they used buckets of hot

6:41

water why wouldn't you

6:43

and they began to melt

6:45

these blocks of ice away

6:47

and they uncovered this basically

6:50

it was a tomb and in the

6:52

center of this tomb they

6:54

found a very young woman

6:56

preserved well preserved you can

6:59

see pictures of her if

7:01

you go online yeah and her

7:03

body is covered in tattoos much of

7:05

it she has a sleeve on one

7:07

of her arms and she has

7:09

tattoos on her legs and other

7:11

places and one of them is

7:13

in the shape of kind of like

7:16

a griffin you know the griffin

7:18

character on her shoulder and

7:20

it's pretty wild I went way

7:22

down that rabbit hole I was

7:25

fascinated by the fact that This

7:27

this body that's you

7:29

know supposedly 2,500 years

7:31

old. Well, how are they doing

7:33

tattoos back then? And how would

7:35

they be so well preserved? Because

7:38

what kind of ink were

7:40

they using? How did they put it

7:42

on them? Well, I'll answer your

7:44

question. They would use some

7:46

sort of instrument. They're

7:49

not sure what kind. It could

7:51

have either been stone or some

7:54

sort of steel or sticks. Nobody

7:56

knows. and they would poke a

7:58

series of holes. in their skin

8:01

and then rub ash into

8:03

it. And they would do this

8:05

over and over until the ash

8:07

set into their skin, which

8:10

I assume is very dangerous.

8:12

I would maybe toxic, I

8:14

don't know. But if you look

8:16

at the pictures and you look

8:19

at this gal who's on

8:21

display in this museum

8:23

and the tattoos on her

8:25

arm, they are extremely well

8:27

done. Yes. Like I've seen

8:30

people just in my daily

8:32

life who go to suppose

8:34

a professional tattoo artists who

8:37

don't do this well So but

8:39

outside of that around her Were

8:41

the body of six horses

8:43

through a series of tests

8:45

and everything they found out

8:48

that each of these

8:50

horses had been ritualistically

8:52

killed with a pickaxe

8:54

through the skull and they were

8:56

buried with her now it's not

8:58

clear specifically what they were there

9:00

for many theories are out there

9:02

one of them which i think

9:04

is probably pretty credible is

9:06

that they believe these horses would

9:08

rise with her in the afterlife and

9:11

they would carry her off into

9:13

wherever she was going this was

9:15

her transportation which at that time horses

9:18

would have been very valuable so

9:20

that's the big thing that they think

9:22

a lot with her too is Being

9:24

buried with the horses

9:26

everything else all the tattoos

9:29

that She may not have been

9:31

a princess, but she was

9:33

somewhere like a high priestess

9:35

or something within the the

9:38

community Right they are

9:40

pretty sure she was not any

9:42

type of royalty that she

9:44

was one of many either like

9:46

you said high priestess or

9:48

part of some sort of

9:50

set-apart female enlightened group or

9:52

they're not positive but they

9:55

are pretty sure she was

9:57

not royalty because i think they

9:59

found other things around there that

10:01

would point to the fact that

10:03

there was royalty involved and they

10:05

were obviously on a much higher

10:08

status. Yeah. So they worked to uncover

10:10

her life story, which is not easy.

10:12

She was part of the Pazric

10:14

Society. One thing I thought was

10:17

interesting, the woman had been

10:19

embalmed and all of her

10:21

organs removed, including her brain, which

10:24

of course makes it hard to

10:26

figure out what's going on with

10:28

her. The scientists... conducted extensive

10:30

research on the corpse including

10:32

multiple MRIs and they found

10:34

that the woman suffered from

10:36

chronic illness and suffered an

10:38

injury late in life from

10:40

falling off a horse. That's one theory.

10:43

Yes. Now the chronic illness they don't

10:45

go into detail but I wonder if

10:47

that didn't have something to do with

10:50

him rubbing ash into her body and

10:52

then got into her blood but I

10:54

don't know that. There's another theory based

10:56

on her breast tissue they say that

10:58

She may have died or suffered from

11:01

some sort of breast cancer. I

11:03

don't know how they came to

11:05

that conclusion They say it's not

11:07

proof positive But there are signs

11:09

that something happened there and

11:12

that may have also been the cause

11:14

Yeah, I did think this

11:16

was interesting for all the 420

11:18

folks out there In this other

11:20

article is it's further analysis

11:23

showed that the woman may

11:25

have smoked marijuana likely to

11:27

cope with the pain of the

11:29

tumor growing in her chest and

11:31

her chronic pain. Research also

11:34

showed that she regularly

11:36

inhaled fumes of copper

11:38

and mercury. However, they

11:40

say that could imply

11:42

that she commonly partook

11:44

in rituals or ceremonies

11:46

that required incense. But she

11:49

was a gongous smoker. So

11:51

this is a hippie chick. Got the

11:53

tattoos. She's smoking the gongos.

11:55

She's hanging out with her

11:57

horses and she was so

11:59

well. preserve she's still with us

12:01

to this day. According to the

12:04

research on this Pazuric culture

12:06

they were a group of Novatic

12:08

people who lived in the Altoi

12:11

Mountains from the sixth to third

12:13

century BCE long time ago.

12:15

It's believed that the tribes

12:17

spent most of their lives

12:20

on horseback other burial grounds

12:22

excavated support this

12:24

theory. They say, although many other

12:27

uncovered tombs are more extravagant in

12:29

nature than the ice-batins, which is

12:31

why they don't believe she was

12:33

actually a princess or any kind

12:35

of royalty. Yeah. According to this,

12:38

as the tomb indicated that instead

12:40

she was somewhere in the middle

12:42

of this Pazuric society. Archaeological evidence

12:44

points to the fact that her

12:46

body may have been preserved for

12:48

up to six months and transported with

12:51

the tribe as they migrated.

12:53

Whatever they did to her when

12:55

they took her brains and organs and

12:57

everything out, however they embalmed her, they

13:00

carried her around for quite some time.

13:02

Six months or so. And then buried

13:04

her when they got to these mountains.

13:07

It says also when considering

13:09

this alongside the woman's

13:11

marijuana and ceremonial incense

13:13

inhalation, scientists theorize, again,

13:16

keyword theorize, that she may have

13:18

been a shaman, not a princess as

13:20

originally posited. She was

13:22

important enough to receive

13:24

an extensive burial ceremony

13:26

But not to have an

13:28

extravagant tomb and that's very important

13:31

Because the title that if you

13:33

look it up if you look up

13:35

Siberian Ice Maiden or Siberian princess

13:38

it will pop up everywhere They

13:40

just sort of attributed that

13:42

to her It's not automatically give

13:44

the name princess Now the interesting

13:46

thing is, when this all

13:48

happened, it's not as Lottie

13:51

does, it sounds. When they

13:53

found her and the word got

13:55

out, there was a big

13:57

backlash within the local out-time...

13:59

because this woman had

14:01

been part of local

14:03

folklore for centuries apparently

14:05

they knew she was there and they were

14:08

trying to keep her a secret they

14:10

saw her as some sort of you know

14:12

like passage back to the old days

14:14

it was relative it was you

14:16

don't disturb the dead all that

14:19

came into play well of course

14:21

the archaeologist and scientists

14:23

they want to study the heck

14:25

out of this thing so they're

14:27

going to take it out of

14:30

there and In 2012, after much

14:32

protest from the out-time people, Russia

14:34

returned the body to a special

14:36

mausoleum in the out-time capital of

14:38

Gorno-Alis, and that helped a little

14:40

bit, but many of the people, they're

14:43

still, they want her back where she

14:45

was. So this is a controversy that's

14:47

still brewing. Well, yeah, and they found

14:49

her in, what are they called, the

14:51

burial grounds, Kurgens, which I didn't think

14:54

it was funny because her Kurgen is

14:56

also, the bad gap in, and Highlander,

14:58

but... They call the barrel grounds, the

15:01

barrel mounds, kurgens, where they found her

15:03

and I guess there's more of them

15:05

out there. There are. I think there

15:08

may be more of these. Right, and

15:10

that's the concern that they're having, you

15:12

know, kind of off topic of

15:14

this, but they are concerned that

15:16

it's been so specific as to

15:18

where they got this person, you

15:20

know, this ice maiden. and the reason

15:23

they were there is there was

15:25

rumors of people going in and

15:27

stealing stuff and so now it's

15:30

world famous and she's not even

15:32

royalty yeah so they're like

15:34

well if she's not royalty and

15:36

she had a bunch of stuff in

15:38

her tomb what's royalty got and

15:41

so ever you know it's gold rush

15:43

kind of thing but then at the

15:45

same time to what you get is you

15:47

get the the of course archaeologist

15:50

wants to go in there and Take

15:52

them all save them do

15:54

everything else, but then the

15:56

people are like no lever These

15:58

are barrels they're sacred

16:01

leave them. So one of the things I

16:03

found and again I think a lot of

16:05

this is what they found around her so

16:07

I don't know that this is absolute

16:09

but one article and this

16:11

was in Russia beyond the woman's

16:14

body carefully embalmed using peat and

16:16

bark was laid on its side

16:18

as if she were sleeping. She

16:20

was young and her hair was

16:22

shaved but she wore a wig

16:24

and a tall hat and you

16:26

could go online and you can

16:28

see this is pretty wild. So

16:30

they had shaved head tattoos smoke

16:32

pot had these ceremonial things but

16:35

they had to lay on their

16:37

sides because of this wig with

16:39

this it looks like about a

16:41

two foot tall straight up

16:43

ornate thing on their head

16:45

with their hair sticking

16:47

straight up think alfalfa. Yeah

16:50

I think the measurement

16:52

that I saw was three foot that

16:54

they said it was a three foot tall.

16:57

I mean I'm looking at a photo right

16:59

now and it's wild. It's pretty wild.

17:01

It says the embalmed body was buried

17:03

at least three months after death. At

17:05

this time the mysterious women continued

17:08

to play a special role in the

17:10

life of the tribe. For example she

17:12

was put in some chairs which can

17:14

be seen from the traces on

17:16

the body. At the same time-consuming

17:18

ceremony of embalming is a sign

17:21

of extraordinary status of the deceased.

17:23

But then again, she's not a

17:25

princess. She was they believe she

17:27

may have been a female shaman

17:29

or they're not quite sure but

17:32

yeah, the point of this story

17:34

is to lead us into the

17:36

next story because this is

17:38

real Yes, you can see photos

17:40

of the body they found you

17:42

can see the tattoos you can

17:45

see artist depictions of what they

17:47

think she may have looked

17:49

like. It's an actual factual

17:51

event. This is a actual

17:53

thing it happened. So

17:56

let's talk about

17:58

Princess Teasil. The

18:00

Tesla princess, yes, this

18:02

one is very, very interesting.

18:05

The Tesla princess, this

18:07

is the one where we got

18:09

a lot of questions, so we're

18:11

gonna roll through the story as

18:14

it's been told. Okay, and then

18:16

we will circle back and

18:18

we'll discuss, is this real, is

18:20

this a copycat? Because

18:22

we got a lot of questions.

18:25

So, there is a. article

18:28

in medium and some

18:30

Russian papers and a

18:32

lot of different things

18:34

about this princess Tesil

18:36

and Supposedly this happened in

18:38

1969 in the Camarovo region

18:41

in Russia According to this

18:43

it says this is a reprint

18:45

of an article that was written

18:48

by the only reporter

18:50

who's ever reported on this

18:52

firsthand. Yes And he

18:54

says, this fascinating story came to

18:57

me through the researcher Mercedes Pullman,

18:59

who recounted on the dogma Sero

19:01

page directed by David Alvarez Planis.

19:03

And this guy, Mercedes Pullman, has

19:06

a bachelor of Russian philosophy, and

19:08

so forth. Regarding the discovery,

19:10

I've compiled several articles from

19:12

different media, where different

19:15

opinions and hypotheses formulated

19:17

on the authentication of what

19:19

happened. So, there's an article

19:21

from 2018 Splutnik magazine. There

19:23

is an article from several

19:25

different sources that all

19:28

claim to have some sort of

19:30

answer on this, but let's go

19:32

to the original source. In 2007,

19:34

Roman Yancinco, who was

19:36

a journalist from a Russian

19:39

newspaper, decided to verify

19:41

the legend of this Tesil

19:43

princess, so he visited the

19:45

place where it all supposedly

19:47

had happened. So what happened

19:50

was, supposedly, supposedly, is

19:52

there was a discovery

19:54

of this woman's body

19:56

in tesal russia and it

19:58

was during a coal mining

20:01

operation so there's all

20:03

these coal miners they're down there

20:05

they're digging for coal and they

20:07

come across what they called a

20:10

sarcophagus which is you know it's

20:12

a big enclosed crypt it's

20:14

like a tomb big tomb yeah they

20:17

said it was like eight and a

20:19

half foot long by three feet wide

20:21

and this one was 70 meters

20:23

so two hundred and thirty

20:26

feet underground yeah so it's way

20:28

down there and it's super duper

20:30

heavy. According to eyewitness accounts,

20:33

inside the sarcophagus was

20:35

an intact corpse of a

20:37

beautiful woman of Slavic appearance

20:39

in a transparent dress

20:41

from an unknown material. And

20:43

the sarcophagus inside of it

20:46

was filled with this mysterious

20:48

pink liquid. According to this,

20:51

the mysterious stone coffin was

20:53

buried 70 meters inside an

20:55

untouched 20 meter coal seam. The

20:57

main witness of this case is

20:59

a guy named Oleg Kulshinken who

21:02

claimed to have heard the story

21:04

from a former colonel of the

21:06

KGB who was involved in the

21:08

extraction According to all the

21:11

accounts it happened early September

21:13

69 when the coffin was

21:15

brought to the surface and Open

21:17

gently and there was some

21:19

sort of putty sealant around the

21:21

edges and when they tore it and

21:24

ripped it off, this strange liquid,

21:26

this pink liquid, started to flow

21:28

from inside of it. They found the body

21:30

of a young woman about 30

21:32

years old, preserved perfectly in a

21:35

brim with a pinkish-blue crystalline liquid

21:37

inside the coffin. Besides, a black

21:39

rectangular metal object, 25 by 10

21:42

centimeters, was placed closer to the

21:44

head of the corpse. It is said

21:46

that one of the workers present at the

21:48

site, tasted the liquid, and a week

21:50

later he went crazy and died. He

21:53

didn't just die. He died from

21:55

basically, he went crazy and so

21:57

bad that he couldn't recognize his

21:59

own house. So he couldn't go back

22:01

to his house. So he sat outside

22:03

in the middle of Siberia and

22:05

froze to death. Right, that's the

22:08

story. Yes. Soon after the news came

22:10

out and the whole village

22:12

arrived to see the mysterious

22:14

discovery, later when the finding

22:16

was reported to the district's

22:18

center, the area commander Alexander

22:21

Masalegan ordered to halt the

22:23

work and firemen military police

22:25

arrived in great numbers. A

22:28

brick-colored helicopter flew overhead from

22:31

the region and handed over

22:33

a dozen respectable comrades and

22:36

civilian clothes who immediately declared

22:38

that the place was contagious

22:40

and ordered those present to move

22:43

away from the coffin. All the

22:45

necessary evidence was collected from the

22:47

site and the coffin was taken

22:49

away by helicopters by the

22:51

authorities order. According to an

22:54

unknown professor from Novos Sibris, the

22:56

age of barrel is at least

22:58

800 million years old.

23:00

And according to them, this

23:03

challenges Darwin's theory of

23:05

evolution, which is why they believe

23:07

it's been covered up. The alleged

23:09

woman in the casket was

23:12

buried in the carboniferous period

23:15

of the paleozoic era

23:17

millions of years before the

23:19

appearance of the dinosaurs, according

23:21

to them. The

23:23

researchers who examined and analyzed the

23:26

fabric used to make the dress

23:28

were baffled because they could not determine

23:30

its nature and its age. They

23:32

concluded that the technology used to

23:35

manufacture the fabric is unknown

23:37

today, and that is much

23:39

more advanced than present-day technology.

23:41

The composition of the pink-blue

23:43

liquid has not yet been determined.

23:45

Only some of its constituent

23:47

components have been identified from...

23:50

formed by the oldest varieties

23:52

of onion and garlic. Yeah.

23:54

Well, the other thing that's interesting is

23:56

the way that they talk about like

23:59

the woman in the liquid was

24:01

that she was beautiful. Yes,

24:03

gorgeous. Like perfect and gorgeous.

24:05

Her dress was translucent.

24:08

I've seen different articles. Some say

24:10

blue or they all say pretty

24:12

much blue eyes, but the hair

24:14

color changes. Right. It goes from

24:17

brown to blonde to blonde. Those

24:19

back and forth between those

24:21

two. There was one article that I

24:23

even read that said she had

24:25

a third eye and six fingers

24:27

and I'm like. weird but that was

24:29

only one like I was in ever

24:32

I did not once and I'm like I

24:34

did not see that that's a new

24:36

one but I mean the other thing

24:38

is is when they put it in

24:40

the helicopter supposedly it didn't it weighed

24:42

too much right so they drained the

24:44

liquid in the second the air and

24:46

the liquid like basically got passed

24:48

so that the body wasn't in

24:50

the liquid and the air touched

24:52

it immediately started to decompose right

24:54

they had to put it back in

24:57

which brought it once it right back to

24:59

the state she was in. Yeah so it fixed

25:01

the decomposition and brought it

25:03

right back to the perfect

25:05

perfection. I could not find anywhere that

25:07

said did they scoop it out in

25:09

buckets did they use a pump like

25:12

how are they getting this stuff out

25:14

there's no indication and then did they

25:16

just slosh it back in there you

25:18

know why did the one guy tasted

25:20

did it hurt anybody because somebody had

25:22

to have touched it I would think.

25:24

You would think and then there's

25:26

a whole thing where they talk

25:29

about like all the people that

25:31

were there Ended up dying in

25:33

accidents Afterwards and all this

25:35

kind of stuff. So I mean

25:37

it gets weird in that But

25:39

there's a lot of those questions

25:41

that aren't answered of like you said

25:44

the weird The specifics That

25:46

we'd ask for but it's one of those

25:49

things the specifics would also be one

25:51

of those things you'd see on like

25:53

a Military paperwork that was signed and

25:55

whatever when they showed up to pick

25:57

it up, but of course has anyone

25:59

ever seen? military paperwork

26:01

on this? Well, it's the Russians,

26:03

so probably not. So this Roman

26:06

Yanchenko, the journalist

26:08

from the Russian newspaper, he

26:10

decided to verify the legend

26:12

of the Tiesl princess. So he

26:14

visited the place where it all

26:17

happened. And according to his article

26:19

and research, he ran into a

26:21

lady named Tatsiana, and I'm not

26:24

going to attempt her last name.

26:26

But she was a wife of one of

26:28

the minors. And that minor had died

26:30

five years ago as a result of

26:33

a long serious illness. He says

26:35

besides others who worked in the

26:37

quarry died all in a series of

26:39

strange circumstances. He doesn't say

26:41

what they are. He just

26:43

says that they all died

26:45

of strange or mysterious circumstances.

26:47

The quarry was closed in

26:50

1973 and is now covered

26:52

by dense forest. So as the

26:54

details mentioned by Oleg Kalinskin

26:56

in his article also cannot

26:58

be ignored firstly the village

27:01

That had happened in really

27:03

exists and there In the

27:05

indicated years a coal mine actually

27:08

did work. It was there was

27:10

a functioning coal mine during

27:12

that time in fact Alexander

27:14

Karanoff worked on the

27:16

development of coal, however he was

27:18

not a minor, but a blacksmith

27:20

of the mine Although

27:22

very little is known about the

27:25

nature of the strange findings, but

27:27

residents of the village of

27:29

Rajakchik are willing to confirm the

27:32

story of this princess. So the

27:34

locals all say, oh yeah, it happened,

27:36

strange things, you know, went down. Another

27:39

thing that was brought up,

27:41

apparently during this interview that

27:43

he was doing is that when the

27:45

coffin was brought up. to the

27:47

surface. It began to melt in

27:49

the sun and eventually began to

27:52

flow putty-like onto the ground and

27:54

revealed what was inside. Initially the

27:56

miners spotted that the coffin

27:58

was brimming with unidentified pink

28:00

and blue liquid. So that's different

28:02

from the original story where they

28:04

opened it and they looked inside.

28:06

Yeah and it gets weird on that too

28:09

like they try and one of the articles

28:11

I read tried to rectify that by

28:13

saying what they meant by that was

28:15

the putty sealing the coffin melted so

28:17

they could open it. Right and that

28:20

might be the case because they did

28:22

say it was some sort of putty-like

28:24

material. Yeah. Which could have been a

28:26

hardened... version of what was

28:28

inside I don't know does say embalmed

28:31

within the liquid was

28:33

an incredibly beautiful

28:35

woman and they say she

28:37

was approximately 30 years old

28:39

and that her eyes were eerily

28:41

open yeah and that she was five

28:44

foot 11 so kind of tall according

28:46

to another article five days

28:49

after the discovery a

28:51

professor who had been tasked with

28:53

investigating the body said that the

28:55

fine had the potential to turn

28:58

human understanding upside down. The professor

29:00

said that he was certain that the

29:02

body was at least 800 million years

29:04

old and that the woman's body was

29:06

older than the coal that had formed

29:08

around the coffin. That's where I have

29:10

the biggest problem with this. One, we've

29:12

gone the whole thing of carbon dating,

29:14

so we're not going to go into

29:17

that whole argument. There's

29:19

nothing scientifically here that tells me

29:21

why they believe she's 800 million

29:24

years old Except for the fact

29:26

that there are a few articles

29:28

that say oh, hey because

29:30

the carbon Or whatever the

29:33

coal that's surrounding her informed

29:35

on the casket was over

29:37

800 million years old. How do

29:39

we know that? So It's an interesting

29:41

one. It's one of those ones

29:43

that you know a lot of the sciences

29:46

kind of just kind of

29:48

push to the side when they're

29:50

talking about this or it's just

29:52

glossed over like oh yeah the

29:54

scientists say she's 800 million years

29:57

old why right because I looked into

29:59

that and From what

30:01

I could find there are no coal

30:03

What they call seams or a

30:06

place where coal collects That

30:08

are 800 million years old

30:10

in fact the oldest I

30:12

could find Was 300 supposedly

30:14

340 million years old and they

30:17

do say some of the pockets

30:19

that are there in Russia or

30:21

some of the oldest but like

30:23

you just said Most of the

30:26

ones that I've been able to see

30:28

I haven't seen any besides that one

30:30

that says they were 800 million years

30:32

old It just it seems like a reach.

30:35

I mean it does you know the

30:37

argument that I've made a couple

30:39

episodes so far is basically There

30:41

is a theory that there have

30:43

been more than one if you

30:45

know one if not more than

30:47

one Society before ours that just

30:49

disappeared and really if you think about

30:51

it all of our society we

30:54

lost all of our or technology,

30:56

everything else, within 2,000 years, pretty

30:58

much there's going to be no

31:00

evidence that we were here. Give

31:03

us 800 million years, there'd definitely

31:05

be no evidence. Well, there's

31:07

some other things too. The

31:09

newspaper that this reporter supposedly

31:12

worked at, it actually did

31:14

exist. There was an article

31:16

that was published called a

31:18

lady of 800 million years. Apparently

31:21

was real, this reporter, because,

31:23

so here's another problem.

31:26

And we run into this

31:28

before. If you do your research

31:30

on this topic, all evidence

31:33

and all data points will

31:35

come back to one singular

31:37

article. And that's this

31:39

guy's article. And this guy's

31:42

article. And this guy's article,

31:44

of course, was written in

31:46

Russian, so it has to

31:49

be translated. fine replicas of

31:51

it but are those true

31:53

i don't know because i don't

31:55

read russian and he gives

31:57

some names but all those

31:59

people or dead. And he was

32:01

also, you know, tipped off by some

32:03

ex-KGB guy who says there are papers

32:06

on it. Nobody's ever seen

32:08

these papers. Of course, it's

32:10

the KGB, so nobody's probably

32:12

ever going to see those papers.

32:14

No, not at all. And there

32:16

was another guy that I was in

32:19

interviews that said, oh, hey,

32:21

he was part of the team

32:23

and everything like that. But

32:25

even his, everything with him

32:27

is questionable. I'd rather he even work

32:30

for the KGB. Well, I also have a

32:32

question about this professor. This article

32:34

does it well. He says, first,

32:36

if everything was so classified, which

32:38

apparently it was, once they found

32:41

this, they shut everything down, they

32:43

brought the helicopters in, it's their

32:45

version of the CIA, FBI, everybody's

32:47

coming in. The entire coal mine was

32:49

carefully dug up to destroy all the

32:51

traces of the find, which is what

32:53

they claimed happened. Why did the

32:56

professor immediately come out

32:58

and share secret information

33:00

and so quickly within

33:03

days? No test run, no nothing.

33:05

Just declare this thing's

33:07

800 million years old. One

33:09

says the thing because really the

33:12

once again like we said

33:14

that that doesn't come out

33:16

until the article later in

33:18

like 2007. Most people will

33:20

say what originally in one

33:22

of the stories that I

33:24

read, they said in the

33:26

timeline what happened was that

33:28

he did come out within

33:30

a couple days. There was

33:32

a news article that popped

33:34

out from there like almost

33:37

immediately, but that the KGB

33:39

swooped in and shut everyone

33:41

down and got rid of every,

33:43

so that any knowledge of

33:45

this was wiped from the

33:47

record. Here's another point that

33:49

is brought up in the summer

33:51

of 1973 because in this article

33:53

the the author writes about

33:56

this Circophagus that was

33:58

found six kilometers from

34:00

where this one was, and

34:02

it was strictest secrecy and

34:05

cordoned off by soldiers

34:07

and police. Anyway, there

34:09

was in 1973 an

34:11

archaeological expedition led by

34:13

a guy from the

34:15

Department of Archaeology at

34:17

the Camaro State University,

34:19

and they worked near the area,

34:21

but in the. Person who

34:24

led the archaeological expedition in

34:26

his memoirs. There is not

34:28

a word about the sensational

34:30

discovery Supposedly thundered all over

34:33

the country or about

34:35

archaeologists from the KGB And

34:37

this article says and not because

34:39

he was hiding something as some

34:41

publications right in the Tysilewski

34:44

district they found not a

34:46

corpse of a woman, but a bio

34:48

robot a kind of clone

34:50

that once truly living representatives

34:52

of powerful super civilization. The

34:54

robot was specially placed in

34:56

the sarcophagus in order to

34:59

transmit vast knowledge to future

35:01

generations and in the Siberian

35:03

land a few more of the same

35:05

capsules are hidden but their time

35:07

has not yet come. Humanity is

35:09

not yet ready for such knowledge.

35:11

Turns out that the woman is

35:13

not dead but is in suspended

35:15

animation. and her awakening will

35:18

be the main event of the

35:20

21st century. But the public is

35:22

unlikely to find out about this

35:25

as a rule such events are

35:27

not advertised by authorities. So

35:29

what they're claiming is that there's

35:31

a bunch of them around that

35:34

this is some sort of advanced

35:36

civilization and they don't go into

35:38

it but yeah it could be

35:40

they could be from Atlanta, they

35:42

could be from anywhere. in

35:44

the past when we've talked about

35:47

that there were very advanced

35:49

civilizations and even in a

35:51

biblical sense there's a lot

35:53

of belief that before the flood

35:55

that Noah endured that society

35:57

was actually quite advanced. Yeah.

36:00

The idea is that this

36:02

person volunteered or whatever to

36:04

be capitalized along with others and

36:06

at some given time in the

36:08

future there to, you know, wake

36:10

up, maybe they're one of the

36:13

ascended masters, maybe they become a

36:15

great teacher or a world peace leader

36:17

or something, but it's not going

36:19

to be grand fair. Not like,

36:21

ta-da, here they are and they're

36:23

going to go do some. Oprah

36:25

Winfrey show and all the major

36:27

networks. This is somebody who's just

36:29

gonna wake up, wander out, and

36:32

teach new things. Yeah. Who knows? I mean,

36:34

it could be the aliens that started

36:36

our planet, you know? Once again,

36:38

I've had the whole idea that

36:40

we've had other civilizations before ours

36:42

and also the idea that

36:45

we are the Australia of

36:47

the universe. They send all

36:49

their criminals here and that's

36:51

why we're such a violent people.

36:53

Well, there's the other idea. that

36:55

is a float and I

36:57

think there's a lot of

36:59

credibility to this. When the

37:01

Siberian Ice Maiden, the one we

37:04

talked about first, was discovered

37:06

and it was an actual

37:08

true event, word spread like

37:11

wildfire in certain circles

37:13

and certainly over there

37:15

because both of these

37:17

are primarily over in the

37:19

Russian area. Yes. Controlled

37:21

media. Word doesn't get

37:23

out easy it becomes folklore

37:25

it becomes hearsay all these

37:28

things are going on and

37:30

you can't even trust

37:32

the quote official

37:34

announcements a lot of times over

37:36

there So there's a theory

37:39

out there that this Tesil

37:41

princess is a copycat

37:43

of the Siberian ice maiden

37:45

and just blown up into

37:47

a much bigger proportion Because

37:52

we don't have

37:54

anything actually

37:56

concrete no

37:58

photos no because not

38:00

on display anywhere. There's no

38:03

vial of this pink liquid

38:05

None none of that is out

38:07

there and again all of this goes

38:09

back to Word of mouth and then

38:12

one journalist who years later

38:14

Showed up and interviewed some

38:17

people and wrote an article about

38:19

it Yeah, and like we we

38:21

said we kept trying to make

38:23

sure like as we're going through

38:25

this we said dates quite a

38:28

bit And if you pay attention

38:30

to the dates, the dates of

38:32

the Teasil Princess, you know, being

38:35

put in a paper, everything else

38:37

happened after the Ice Maiden. Even

38:39

though suppose the Cecil Princess

38:41

was found in 1969, none of

38:44

the data, none of the information

38:46

comes out till after the Ice

38:48

Maiden. And every proof that you

38:51

could find that you would be

38:53

able to find was... taken by

38:55

the KGB in 69 in the

38:58

middle of the Cold War, that

39:00

information is easy to say, well,

39:02

it's classified, it's hidden, it's

39:04

destroyed, it's whatever, they didn't want

39:07

the Americans to get to it,

39:09

so we hit it. Here's another

39:11

theory. Perhaps it was the

39:14

surviving Martians or interplanetary beings

39:16

who left their planet after

39:18

the disaster or the crew

39:21

of a spacecraft that crashed

39:23

on Earth. There is reason to

39:25

believe that Princess Teasil might be

39:27

in a state of suspended animation and

39:29

the metal box in the sarcophagus was

39:31

a kind of timer to wake up

39:34

and a means of providing a chance

39:36

to surface like maybe they were Holding

39:38

her there so they could get back

39:40

or she had to adapt took a

39:42

long time before she could you

39:44

know adapt to actually being outside

39:46

the box or whatever and it

39:48

says from the position of the

39:50

princess's body It can be assumed

39:52

that she was not going

39:54

to wake up in 1969.

39:57

Perhaps the premature opening of

39:59

the sarcophagus... the drainage of

40:01

the liquid killed the time

40:03

traveler and you did mention

40:05

that she was laying there in

40:08

a preserved state quite beautiful

40:10

by all accounts eyes open

40:12

seem to be not dead

40:15

but possibly in sleep or

40:17

you know some sort of

40:19

catatonic state and when the

40:21

they started draining that out

40:23

and she started to

40:25

deteriorate just because she

40:27

went back to You know, the state

40:29

that she was in when they put the

40:31

liquid back in does not mean she survived.

40:34

No, it doesn't. And the other thing

40:36

is, I don't know if we mention

40:38

this, supposedly floating the liquid with her,

40:40

actually I think you did mention it,

40:42

was a little black box or whatever

40:44

that, you know, a lot of people

40:46

say what about the size of a cell

40:49

phone. Maybe that was the controller for her

40:51

sleep to wake her up. And I could

40:53

not find anything else about that other than

40:55

the fact that they said it was there.

40:57

It was there. Was it a found

40:59

said it was there? Was it a

41:02

communication device with the mother ship? Was

41:04

like you said, was it a timer?

41:06

We don't know. Yeah, everything that

41:08

I saw just said, hey, there was

41:11

this little black box and that's

41:13

it. There's never any other mention

41:15

of it besides the fact that

41:17

hey, it was there. Yeah, so there

41:20

are some interesting things I think

41:22

about this T-sol Princess, the

41:24

fact that... The reporter who reported

41:26

on it is real he used real names

41:28

He went to this town and supposedly

41:31

they told him stories of

41:33

the actual actual event happening

41:35

But at the same times like nobody

41:37

knows again what they did with it. Where

41:39

did the coffin go once they got it

41:41

up and apparently it was a huge deal?

41:43

And like you said the helicopter couldn't carry

41:46

it off so we don't even know

41:48

how they got it out of there

41:50

Like how did they bring cranes out put

41:53

it on the flatbed? Nobody seems to

41:55

know that but then they were said

41:57

well we were all cordoned off by

41:59

you know the military and the police

42:01

and everything and we couldn't go near

42:03

it but wouldn't you see it roll

42:06

through town because they were in if

42:08

you look at it on a map they're

42:10

in an absolute remote place they

42:13

are and I mean the thing is

42:15

too is even now that you know

42:17

the USSR is crumbled everything else

42:19

you would think that someone to point

42:21

out where this is that if they

42:23

had it if they took it if

42:25

they put it in some warehouse somewhere

42:27

where is it now Well

42:29

according to some filmmakers who

42:31

have kind of done or they're

42:33

they did a short and

42:35

they're supposedly working on a

42:38

documentary they say that the

42:40

sarcophagus of the princess was

42:42

sent to Moscow for serious

42:44

investigation apparently from 69 to

42:46

73 even foreign spies were

42:49

captured in the Tesil region

42:51

searching for a valuable

42:53

artifact and valuable information.

42:55

However we don't know that for

42:58

a fact. No. That's just hearsay.

43:00

The whole thing's hearsay. And the

43:02

easy argument that you can go

43:04

back and say, oh, hey, the

43:06

reason it is hearsay is because

43:08

it was Soviet Russia in the

43:11

middle of the Cold War.

43:13

And apparently there's been two

43:15

others that were found too

43:17

identical, sorry, gothic high is

43:19

what they called. And this

43:21

was confirmed by somebody named

43:24

Valerie. Milavani, a retired

43:26

FSB major general, he said

43:28

that two more tombs were

43:30

found in the lake 60

43:32

kilometers from the village whose

43:34

age is guessed at 200 million

43:37

years. This is where I have

43:39

a problem with this. And it

43:41

may just be that it's Russia.

43:43

Maybe they have it, they have

43:45

the secret, they hold all the

43:48

knowledge of it, I don't know. Word

43:50

does not get out of Russia

43:52

very easy. So I'm gonna give all

43:54

of that to this story. But

43:56

there are some major holes in

43:59

this story. major holes. And

44:01

there's a lot of coincidences

44:04

that I don't think can be

44:06

overcome. If we're going to

44:08

get down to the brass tax

44:11

of it, the Siberian

44:13

ice princess, absolute 100%

44:15

real, documentation, and it

44:18

was found by basically

44:20

Russians. Okay, so

44:22

Russian doctors, Russian

44:24

archaeologists, everything was

44:26

done by the Russians and they

44:29

said, hey, here it is,

44:31

here's photos, here's the history,

44:33

here's what we know, here's

44:35

what we found out, I

44:37

know we're guessing on some of

44:39

it, but, you know, they tried

44:41

to put a story around it.

44:44

This Tesla Princess, top

44:46

secret. Now, on the flip side,

44:49

some credibility to the

44:51

story is, if it's true,

44:53

that they found this thing

44:55

in this state. There

44:57

are a lot of questions and

44:59

who knows what technology

45:02

they're using who knows what

45:04

that? Pink goo was who knows

45:06

what the fabric of her clothes

45:08

was who knows what they found

45:10

out if she has human DNA

45:12

or she's an alien or Who

45:14

knows we don't know? They would

45:16

not want that to get out.

45:18

They would want to keep that

45:21

secret and we all know that the

45:23

United States would go

45:25

in and try to either at least

45:27

get the information or steal

45:30

that. Yeah. Well, I mean, and

45:32

there is, there is articles that

45:34

say that supposedly they did check

45:37

her DNA and that it

45:39

was matching to Russian people

45:41

of that area, of that

45:43

area. And you're like, but would

45:45

it match them though? Because I

45:47

mean, 800 million years ago,

45:49

it doesn't seem like it

45:51

be the same people living

45:53

there. And once again, there's

45:56

no data on how they did this

45:58

or who did this. they even got

46:01

this information. So I found

46:03

this interesting and

46:05

you can take this for

46:07

whatever it's worth. So the

46:10

individual who wrote the article

46:12

A Lady of 800 million

46:14

years, he wrote sort of

46:17

a follow-up to it and this

46:19

was a letter to the editors.

46:21

He said, dear editors, ten years have

46:23

passed since the publication of the

46:25

article on the discovery of Teasil,

46:27

and the time has come to

46:29

reveal the truth about its writing. In

46:32

this article, for the first time, it

46:34

was published in the newspaper, in August

46:36

2002, under the title, a lady of

46:38

800 million years, I did not lie

46:41

a word. I only concealed the true

46:43

circumstances of my relationship with the colonel,

46:45

and then he put in parentheses, that

46:47

was his condition. The day after

46:49

the publication of this material, I

46:51

was hit by a car, although

46:54

not fatally. I came out with a

46:56

slight injury, maybe just a

46:58

coincidence. The editorial team chuckled,

47:00

mistaking him for a cool

47:02

duck. Well, that's it. The

47:04

second Bushkopf was resurrected. The chief

47:06

cheerfully summed up, and then he

47:08

started, there were calls from the

47:11

federal office of good advice. It

47:13

turned out that I accidentally released

47:15

a terrible state secret. At first

47:18

they tried to get the

47:20

signs of the kernel and

47:22

when I described the movie

47:24

Sterelets they persistently recommended writing

47:27

a sensational and funny sequel

47:29

to the quote revelation of

47:31

a KGB Dash 2 kernel

47:33

about how the beauty was

47:35

resurrected it was escaped and

47:37

they're still looking for her. I wrote

47:40

the KGB dash 2 kernel

47:42

revelation but on a completely

47:44

different subject. after which my

47:47

continuing journalistic career at the

47:49

best newspaper was ended. This

47:51

is in short the story or

47:53

the appearance of the sensational publication

47:56

Tis Lucania Find which glorified

47:58

the village of Rachvik

48:00

all over the world kind

48:02

regards Oleg Kulshinkin So

48:05

again Those were his final words

48:07

on the matter and that's a

48:09

it's a translation obviously so

48:11

some of it kind of

48:13

gets lost in translation But

48:15

he basically saying He got hit

48:18

by a car could be a

48:20

coincidence. They got calls from You know

48:22

higher ups saying hey you need to

48:24

write a follow-up story like a funny

48:26

one about how oh yeah it happened

48:28

but now she's escaped and we're all

48:30

looking for her and You're gonna have

48:33

to cover the story up somehow.

48:35

That's his recollection. I don't know

48:37

if it's true. That was his

48:39

letter to the editor and he's

48:41

never said a word since

48:43

interesting so I have a problem with

48:45

the 800 million years. I have

48:47

a problem with the fact that

48:49

This thing was supposedly so heavy

48:52

to be lifted by a helicopter.

48:54

Well, how did they get it out of

48:56

the mine? Because it was encased

48:58

down. There wasn't like just laying

49:00

on a floor somewhere. They had to

49:03

dig it out and then move it

49:05

from 230 feet down. How did you

49:07

drag it out of the mine? And the

49:09

one guy that supposedly drank the

49:11

liquid, first of all, why would

49:14

you drink it? I mean they're Russian

49:16

they they drink anything hoping

49:18

it'll get them drunk and

49:20

they're in Siberia I could see touch

49:22

it smell it if I find a

49:24

dead body and there's all kind of

49:26

fluid around it my first thought is a

49:29

man grab a cup let's go to town yeah

49:31

I found that odd there's a lot

49:33

of questions there and I could be

49:35

wrong it may all be true

49:37

and maybe that's part of the

49:39

cover-up maybe it's meant to sound

49:41

ridiculous and they put fanciful

49:43

things like 800 million years

49:46

and you know otherworldly material

49:48

and eyes open like you said third

49:50

eyes six fingers all that stuff that

49:52

may all be part of the sigh

49:54

up in the cover up they may

49:56

actually have something and because they're

49:59

not saying what they have? It

50:01

leads to all this kind of

50:03

wild speculation. Yeah. And then like we

50:05

said, it seems like everything comes

50:07

from one original story and

50:09

then blossoms out from there

50:11

and everyone adds their own little piece.

50:14

Like I said, they got the one

50:16

that said, oh, a third eye and

50:18

six fingers and everything like that. They're

50:21

taking that original story and then expanding

50:23

on it. Well, and I know there

50:25

were no cell phones at the time, but

50:28

they had cameras. Right, but not

50:30

right away. It took them a

50:32

while before they notified any authority.

50:34

It took them a long time

50:36

to get out their days. Nobody

50:38

took a picture. But those were

50:40

all confiscated. They closed on

50:42

the town and confiscated everything.

50:44

Everything. Every single one. Wow.

50:46

Well, what do you all

50:48

think? What do you think

50:51

about this Tiesel princess? True.

50:53

Not true. Partly true. Because

50:55

I'm sort of on the fence

50:58

on it. I think maybe maybe

51:00

something, but it also is very

51:02

coincidental that it happened after

51:04

the Siberian Ice Maiden And

51:07

it could be a great tourist

51:09

boom for that little town who

51:11

had closed down the mine. I

51:13

don't know. I have no idea.

51:15

I'm just trying to think outside

51:17

the box. I do have some

51:19

problems with it, but I can

51:21

also see where maybe something happened

51:23

and then it just like legends

51:25

do, they just get out of

51:27

control. This keeps growing. Well, I hope

51:29

everybody enjoyed the Tesil Princess

51:32

and I highly recommend, especially

51:34

if you're into tattoos. Check

51:36

out the Siberian Ice Princess

51:38

because her tattoos and I don't

51:40

have any. I don't have one single

51:43

tattoo. They are pretty a couple. Do

51:45

you? I know. I don't think

51:47

I ever knew that. The 18?

51:49

You have 18? I think so.

51:51

Oh, I don't think I ever

51:54

do that. They're all... I

51:56

don't want to know where

51:58

they're at. stop right

52:00

there as a if i were

52:02

a short sleep t-shirt i've got

52:04

one on my my forearm you

52:06

can see other than that they're

52:08

all hidden by like a short

52:11

sleep t-shirt uh... all right well

52:13

that's probably why i never see

52:15

him that's a good thing but

52:17

they are fascinating and

52:19

it is a fascinating dive into

52:21

how precise they are given the

52:23

time that she was alive it's

52:26

pretty amazing what human

52:28

ingenuity the march of

52:30

history has been able to do and so

52:32

we all think oh man tattoos they're

52:34

all new and it's so advanced and

52:36

it's all amazing these will blow your

52:38

mind they were very very well done

52:40

and preserved to this day that's the

52:42

crazy thing so yeah Brandon you got

52:45

the midweek I do I'm not sure

52:47

what it's gonna be yet all right

52:49

well we'll look forward to that

52:51

and then we will be back

52:53

again next week at the brand

52:55

new episode In the meantime, email

52:57

us down the RH of ProtonMail.com.

52:59

Check out our friends over there

53:01

at the Fringe Radio Network, Fringe

53:04

Radio Network.com. I'm Big D.

53:06

I'm Brandon. We're out of here. See

53:08

you later.

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