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We are back in the Building for more

2:01

basketball coverage is always hope everybody's doing

2:03

well. My guy, how are you doing?

2:05

Doing good. I, uh, much like everyone

2:07

else in not just the United States,

2:09

but in the world, watched the Super

2:11

Bowl last night. Uh, I have a

2:13

couple of takes. Let's start with what

2:15

you think. Canoes fast. I mean, it

2:17

sucks as the last piece of balls.

2:19

I'm sure. I'm sure the ratings were

2:21

high, but everything about it. From, from,

2:23

from, from, from, from, from, from. For

2:25

football, I feel like, I feel like,

2:27

I feel like, I feel like. Blow,

2:29

I would say pause. You know, to

2:32

have that trade happen the week of

2:34

the Super Bowl, it almost like passed

2:36

by them before you know it's Sunday, it's

2:38

like, oh, Super Bowl is tomorrow. You're like,

2:40

whoa, what? We've been covering Lucca and all

2:42

this stuff so hard, trade deadline. For once,

2:44

maybe we took a little bit from them.

2:47

Listen, football is the biggest sport in America.

2:49

Obviously, the NBA is much larger of a

2:51

brand than the NFL, but as an American

2:53

sport, and probably always will remain. you know,

2:56

a numeroo. And yesterday, I'm sure the views

2:58

were reflective of that, but for me, just

3:00

due to how the game went, obviously the

3:02

Eagles, if you're an Eagles fan, you probably

3:04

had a blast, but to everyone else who's,

3:07

you know, in the middle, for me, a

3:09

guy who's like, not a huge football guy,

3:11

but likes watching the big games, just like

3:13

anything. You know, I don't have no dog

3:15

in a show, I don't, I don't care

3:18

if it's... My homes game might have been

3:20

one of the more intriguing games to watch.

3:22

I don't know what happened. I've never seen

3:24

the Chiefs play like that. I've never even

3:26

seen Pat my homes play like that. They

3:29

just seemed flustered and out of place. It

3:31

just seemed not, it wasn't competitive at all

3:33

from start to finish. It just seemed not,

3:35

it wasn't competitive at all from start to

3:37

finish. Within the first, from start to finish.

3:40

Within the first, they were, it's competitive at

3:42

all from start to finish something down. I'm

3:44

like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm

3:46

like, I'm like, I don't, I don't, I

3:49

don't, I don't know, I don't, I don't,

3:51

I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't

3:53

know, I don't, I don't, I don't, I

3:55

don't know, I don't, I don't know, I

3:57

don't know, I don't, I don't, I don't,

4:00

This is though. They're not coming back. And

4:02

then you saw the body, like they, they

4:04

panned, it was like mid-third quarter. Still

4:06

a whole quarter left. And mind you,

4:08

they did end up putting some points

4:11

on the board, but the game was

4:13

so far out of reach, it couldn't

4:15

have come back. But it was like third

4:17

quarter, they're down like four

4:19

touchdowns. They panned that damn, bro, they

4:22

were like, game was over. And I'll give

4:24

credit to Pat. He played awful, but like,

4:26

like, kept trying. kept competing and I just

4:28

felt like they had him scrambling all night

4:31

I saw that little body of his just

4:33

wattle around but there was a possession where

4:35

he was just running through different I was

4:37

like every play these dudes are on his

4:40

ass they were I don't know a lot about football

4:42

but from the average Joe you would say in

4:44

terms of football knowledge I was watching that

4:46

game and even I could tell like this one

4:48

team looked ready and prepared and hungry and

4:50

came out like swinging and the other one

4:53

just thought that they were just kind of kind

4:55

of show up and show up and show up and

4:57

win because maybe that's just what they've done in the

4:59

past or maybe they've won obviously this would have been

5:01

the third in a row all these distractions all these

5:04

things going on it seemed like the Super Bowl overwhelmed

5:06

them almost like they all these things were going on they

5:08

just forgot to show up and compete well I mean they

5:10

just forgot to show up and compete well I mean they

5:12

went all those close games all year and I feel like

5:14

they just like it wasn't a close game for the

5:16

middle win yeah I don't know that much about

5:18

football looks like the offensive the offensive line for the

5:21

offensive line the offensive line for the offensive line for

5:23

the offensive line for the offensive line for the

5:25

Chiefs line for the Chiefs of the Chiefs I

5:27

just hate the way things are. We

5:29

talked about this before on the pod.

5:31

We're now, if you go on your

5:33

social media, people are just crushing Pat

5:36

Malms. Like, he didn't just go to

5:38

the Super Bowl. And it's just, we're

5:40

in this culture now where everything is

5:42

so, when he loves someone, like, when

5:44

he loves someone, like, when they love

5:47

someone, we're praising someone, like, when they

5:49

beat the bills, we're praising, we're, all obsessed

5:51

with someone, and we just hate them, and

5:53

killed them, there's, He's probably like man a

5:56

week ago everyone was praising me calling me

5:58

to go and now I'm like I

6:00

don't know, I just... Who said he's

6:02

not by the Montana? There's just a

6:04

lot of hands on. I've seen stuff

6:07

like that though, yeah. And of course

6:09

Brady calling the game doesn't help, right?

6:11

Well no, they had a, they had

6:13

a video of, they had a video

6:15

of, they had a, they had a

6:17

video of, um, they had a, they

6:19

had a video of, um, they had

6:21

a, they had a video of, um,

6:23

watching this game like. He's a sucker.

6:25

He's a sucker. It's not fun, I'm

6:28

sure. For Brady, a guy who's played

6:30

for as long as he did, had

6:32

the success he's had, he's been unanimously,

6:34

I would say, tagged as the goat

6:36

of football, you got this young guy

6:38

who's played not even half of, you

6:40

know, Brady's Karari has three, four, right?

6:42

Three. Three already? No, I thought it

6:44

was three in a row, he's one,

6:46

three. Oh, okay, yeah, he's one three,

6:49

this would have been his fourth, but

6:51

this would have been three in a

6:53

row for him. You know, at the

6:55

pace that he's going, I'm sure Brady's

6:57

like, this guy's gonna end up being

6:59

the greatest of all time, you know

7:01

what I mean? And I would imagine

7:03

the same competitive streak that made Tom

7:05

who he is, I don't know if

7:08

that ever dies. I'm sure, you know,

7:10

you obviously don't have as much because

7:12

you don't compete anymore, but that competitive

7:14

inside. You don't think you don't think

7:16

you watch is this and be like,

7:18

you don't think you watch is this

7:20

and be like, and be like, and

7:22

be like, and be like, and be

7:24

like, You know what I mean? It's

7:26

like when Michael watched all these, you

7:29

know, LeBron pass him in scoring or

7:31

become all-time great. You didn't see like

7:33

a huge LeBron tweet or Michael tweet

7:35

about Michael tweet about Michael like, you

7:37

know, I mean, like, because that's just

7:39

what makes them who they are. It's

7:41

what makes these guys all so competitive.

7:43

And there's nothing wrong with giving people

7:45

flowers, but yeah, needless to say, that

7:47

wasn't a valid effort, I would say,

7:50

on the Chiefs. I mean his super

7:52

records three and two, Tom Brady's at

7:54

this point, his first five super rolls

7:56

where he was never three and two.

7:58

The difference is the shellacking. Tom

8:00

Brady never got killed who did who did us a

8:02

pat loose to Tom Brady. He did

8:04

lose one Tom. Yeah. Oh,

8:06

no Yeah, I feel

8:08

like you're finding out right now that Tom Brady

8:10

tells you I don't know shit about football

8:12

Oh, this is like the uncovering football. He's like,

8:15

wait, so Tom Brady's just the best, right?

8:17

Yeah. Yeah I'm trying to figure this out. Yeah,

8:19

I know Tom's regarded as the best and

8:21

like past the new guy in the block who

8:23

they Think's gonna pass him and some people

8:25

like he's already few ones three to row He's

8:27

a goat, you know, I already hear this

8:29

and then I hear people like just so against

8:31

it Like, you know, it's it's very similar

8:33

to like the Jordan LeBron thing I I get

8:35

that same type of feeling you got like

8:37

new school like Pat And then you got people who

8:39

watch Tom his whole career like you guys have

8:41

no idea what you're talking about It's kind of

8:43

how I get with Michael LeBron like LeBron's career.

8:45

He's done this Michael couldn't never be like, you

8:47

know Michael was It's

8:49

never gonna Yeah I don't know if that argument will

8:51

ever be settled because the old school has made up their

8:54

mind on Michael New school is made up their mind

8:56

on LeBron and then even some of these people in new

8:58

school who say Michael people like Did you watch them?

9:00

Do you even know what you're talking about? Right, you know,

9:02

I mean and then there's old people who say all

9:04

LeBron ain't this do you actually watch LeBron? Do you know

9:06

what you're talking about? Like I don't know. Yeah, you

9:08

know, it's speaking of LeBron It's pretty insane the way he's

9:10

been playing and the way the Lakers have been playing

9:12

even without Luca obviously so far Yeah,

9:14

they're kind of you know how I say

9:16

one minute people social media is like well Mom's is the

9:18

best and they're like he's overrated. I watched it happen

9:20

with Anthony Davis over the last week where when he got

9:22

Traded for Luca they were like this guy's washed up

9:24

He's a bum and then the first three quarters of that

9:26

game his first game with the Mavericks They're like told

9:28

y 'all the Mavericks had a steal like my whole timeline

9:30

was like you guys thought Anthony Davis was a bum He's

9:32

gonna come in here by a block then he got

9:34

hurt and they were like that's why you didn't want

9:36

to That's why you shouldn't trade for me anything.

9:38

It up and go up when it was

9:40

like an it's like an ocean It was the

9:42

waves were up and then crashing and then

9:44

down and then crashing again First of all most

9:46

people listen to us understand this Anthony Davis

9:48

is the top 75 player of all time Yeah,

9:50

okay, this is he is by no means

9:52

a scrub And we made it clear on this

9:54

pod that if this trade happened seven eight

9:56

years ago Nobody would have thought it was that

9:58

nobody would have been like, oh my

10:00

God, how did they do this? Why

10:03

did they do this? Because at that

10:05

time, Anthony Davis was the top five

10:07

player in the NBA. You know what

10:09

I mean? Like, his first year with

10:12

LA or his first or his last

10:14

couple years with New Orleans, Anthony Davis

10:16

was like regarded as the best big

10:18

in basketball. So at that point, as

10:21

the best big in basketball. So at

10:23

the Davis was like regarded as the

10:25

best big in basketball. So at that

10:27

point, so it's like, If it happened

10:29

then, 2014 to 2015, if you

10:31

made this trade, it wouldn't have

10:34

been a big of a deal.

10:36

It would have been a blockbuster

10:38

trade because it would have been two

10:40

greats going for each other. But

10:42

like, it wouldn't have been as

10:44

a big of a deal because Anthony

10:47

Davis was in his prime and

10:49

young. The reason why we thought

10:51

this trade was a catastrophe was

10:54

due to Anthony Davis's age. That's

10:56

why people... I'm only saying this

10:58

because he goes to Dallas and

11:00

has a great first game. And

11:02

everyone's like, what'd y'all expect? I

11:05

don't know if y'all watch him

11:07

with the Lakers, he's having a

11:09

hell of a year. He's very

11:11

good. Anthony Davis still, at the

11:14

end of his prime, at the end

11:16

of his prime, on his way out,

11:18

is still, on his way out, his

11:20

prime, is still, on his way out

11:22

of his career, and then where

11:24

Lucas he's playing out of it.

11:26

Simple as that. Otherwise, if they

11:28

are both 25, 25. We wouldn't be

11:30

having this big of a reaction. The world wouldn't have won't

11:32

a win of Holt. Well, potentially because a guy like Luka

11:34

and his prime at 25 that just came out the finals

11:37

has never been traded. No, that's true. But it feels for

11:39

like a top five big and you had kireen. Now it's

11:41

just like, okay. You got like a top five big and

11:43

you had kiree and now it's just like, okay, you got

11:45

like a top five player going and you had, now, it's

11:47

just like, it's just like a top five big and you

11:49

had, and you had, and you had, and you had, and

11:51

you had, and you had, Kiree, and you had, and you

11:53

had, Kiree, and you had, Kiree, and you had, and you

11:55

had, and you had, Kiree, and you had, and you had, and

11:57

now, and now, and now, and now, and now, and now it's, and

11:59

now it's, Which is actually really sad, right? Like

12:01

he's doing his job at the end of

12:03

the day. He's not doing his job, but

12:05

you know what I mean. But I know

12:07

what you're saying, yes, he's just doing his

12:09

job technically, he's trying to. So, and I,

12:12

listen, we said this also, Nico's history of

12:14

trades are actually pretty damn good. Prior to

12:16

this one, every trade he's made has been

12:18

a very good contribution for the Mavericks, I'm

12:20

sorry, for the Mavericks, whether it's the Gaffer,

12:22

the Gafferher, the PJ, the PJ, the PJ,

12:24

the PJ, the PJ, the PJ, the PJ,

12:26

PJ, the, PJ, the, PJ, the, He's done

12:28

very well in building out this Mavericks team

12:30

signing Kyrie when people kind of gave up

12:32

on Kyrie bringing Dante Exim back when no

12:34

one really thought he could even play anymore

12:36

which is very rare to go to yearly

12:38

and come back so it is very rare

12:40

I don't know exactly no offense I don't

12:42

know what Dante Exim does for the Mavericks

12:44

but he's there he's a rotation guy I'm

12:46

not saying I'm not saying he's a bad

12:48

player I'm is he better than Grimes is

12:51

he better than Grimes? Is he better than

12:53

Grimes? Is he better than Grimes? I don't

12:55

think either. It's not like a landslide either

12:57

way. But I don't know if you saw

12:59

that. It's about to be gobbled up. Max

13:01

Christie's in their torch and right now. Yeah,

13:03

he's got, well, wait a while, he's like

13:05

Max Christie. The governing owner, Patrick Dumont, his

13:07

comments, people have been crushing him. He said,

13:09

if you look at the former grades and

13:11

they, you know, magic and Kobe and Kobe

13:13

and Kobe and Michael. Okay I was with

13:15

you until you said Shacks Shacks a lot

13:17

of things we think he's the most dominant

13:19

player in NBA history and if you had

13:21

one game one night he might be one

13:23

of those guys you pick but he worked

13:25

himself in his shape and was continuously out

13:27

of shape it wasn't he's one of those

13:30

guys that dominated but he could have worked

13:32

harder dominated more it just shows a you

13:34

have a lack of basketball knowledge yeah b

13:36

you don't know what you're talking about see

13:38

for you to even name a whole bunch

13:40

of players and not mentioned Dirk someone who's

13:42

within your own who's within your own town

13:44

who's within your own town state with that

13:46

franchise for However long and you guys have

13:48

many many seasons where you guys didn't make

13:50

finals runs or didn't even make the playoffs

13:52

sometimes like they lost a 1-8 that yeah

13:54

to the Warriors they got smacked do they

13:56

just trade? them that time and then the

13:58

next summer to mark Cuban come out and

14:00

say well if you're not about working hard

14:02

or championships then like bro it's it's just

14:04

blasphemous okay this whole thing is character assassination's

14:06

gone way too far about him and he

14:08

did all this and then you're talking about

14:11

he doesn't work hard and this is the

14:13

body doesn't work hard and this is the

14:15

body doesn't work hard and this is the buddy took

14:17

you whatever he took you whatever he was doing he took

14:19

you to the finals on one leg now you're clearly good

14:21

at business and that you in the positions that you're in

14:23

the positions that you're in the positions that you're in your

14:26

in your in your in your in your life Like

14:28

you built championship organizations, and

14:30

you know what you're

14:32

doing you just walked in the show

14:34

bro Just take it easy. I'm not

14:36

even being disrespectful towards

14:38

you right now I'm just keeping it

14:41

a hundred You want to come out

14:43

with comments about luka, and you didn't

14:45

say his name But who else are

14:47

you talking about luka, but who else

14:49

are you talking about? But who else

14:52

are you talking about all right? It's

14:54

his name, but who else are you

14:56

talking about all right? I have played

14:58

him in games where he

15:00

has absolutely dismantled the defense.

15:03

And we've had the freakiest

15:05

athletes in the world guarding him.

15:07

Pause. And he cooked us 35, 7,

15:09

10. This is what he averages damn

15:11

near on a nightly basis. He's led

15:13

the league in scoring. He's been in

15:16

top of the, in assist. His first

15:18

team all NBA, five times straight. You don't do these types, you

15:20

got your team to the conference finals, but a team that had

15:22

no business even being there, but you beat a team that was

15:24

better than you, Phoenix, because they were set up at that time,

15:26

better than you, but you just went in there, went eight, just

15:28

straight up crazy mode in game seven, got them to the conference

15:30

finals. Then a few years later, you get all the way to

15:32

the finals, but you match up with the best team the East has had,

15:34

and over fucking, I don't even know, since, since, since I don't know, since

15:36

I don't know, since I don't know when, since I don't know when. Maybe

15:38

since I don't know when. Maybe since I don't know when. Maybe since I

15:40

don't know when. Maybe since I don't know when, since I don't know when.

15:43

Maybe since I don't know when. Maybe since I don't know when. Maybe since

15:45

I don't know when. Maybe since I don't know when.

15:47

Maybe since the last, since on like the the

15:49

luka bashing it's it's all false it's bs could

15:51

he be in better shape could he do things

15:53

better sure maybe i don't know all i could

15:55

tell you is whatever he's done so far has

15:57

worked very very well in fact i was in

15:59

much better shaped in Luca. I never, ever was

16:01

a first team all NBA. I never had

16:03

the stamina to put up the numbers that this

16:05

guy put up. I never had the weight

16:07

of a team on my shoulders every single night

16:10

to go score 30 and then also dish

16:12

out dimes for everyone to score as well. So

16:14

enough of the BS. One thing you didn't

16:16

even mention is all those summers he played for

16:18

Slovenia. This is the first time he did

16:20

it. He's playing for every summer. He plays basketball

16:22

year round. He's playing for Slovenia. The usage

16:24

rates just as high as the ball every play.

16:26

get the ball every single play all the

16:29

way to the finals play from September to

16:31

June. And then also every

16:33

summer play like that. It's just,

16:35

I did not like his comments. I

16:37

thought they were ill timed. I

16:39

thought they were insensitive. I thought

16:41

they were attacking someone's character. Don't come on here

16:44

with these comments about all world players talking about the

16:46

greats and how they approached and if you're not

16:48

going to do that, then you don't need to be

16:50

here. And then you're going to name a bunch

16:52

of greats that have nothing to do with the Dallas

16:54

Mavericks. And then you even named one who wasn't

16:56

even known for being hardworking. He was just a freak,

16:58

athlete and talent check. So what the hell are

17:00

you talking about? He's just saying

17:02

stuff. I didn't like that at all.

17:04

On the Lakers side of things, a

17:06

guy that we just haven't really been talking about because

17:08

we talked about the Lakers talk about obviously Luca

17:10

and LeBron and how they're going to mesh. Talk about

17:13

Dorian Finney -Smith and all these other players. Austin Reeves,

17:15

we kind of agree that he should be a

17:17

paying preacher off the bench. Not

17:19

only did he have a game winner against the Warriors, then

17:22

he also turns around without LeBron,

17:24

obviously without Luca and these guys,

17:26

and has 45, eight and eight.

17:28

On the Pacers. 45, seven and

17:30

seven. Cookin. Career high. It's just,

17:33

we don't have to talk about as far as like where

17:35

Austin Reeves stands, as far as rankings in the NBA,

17:37

but there are certain level of players that could put

17:39

up these numbers. And guys that are ranked higher than

17:41

Austin Reeves, that are probably better players than Austin Reeves,

17:43

can't put up 45, seven and seven. Like what? So

17:45

it's a special talent. So give me one. Let's

17:48

give you an example. Okay. So do you

17:50

have a new door above Austin Reeves and

17:52

rankings? Okay. Do

17:54

you have Derek White above Austin Reeves? I think Derek White

17:56

can give you 45, seven and seven and lead

17:58

a team. I'm not. I'm not trying to

18:00

this Derek why, I'm trying to give you an example of... I

18:02

know what you're saying. Like Cole Anthony for the Magic, a lot

18:04

of, he wasn't getting play for the beginning of the year, but

18:07

he's also a kind of guy, if you do play him, he could

18:09

go off for 30. But he's a score. There's a special kind of

18:11

player that could do that though, I think Austin here's pretty can do

18:13

that. Yes, I would have Austin Reeves ahead of Lou Dort. Are you

18:15

out of your mind? No, I was trying to give you, I was

18:17

trying to think of guys like, there's, it takes a certain different kind

18:19

of talent. Well, there's some guys who could just score, but they follow

18:21

all around. I was like, I could say that about you, you're the

18:23

guy that could go off for 40. No for sure, but there's guys

18:25

who can go off for 40. But there's guys who can go for

18:27

a guy that could go off for 40. No, but there's, a guy

18:29

that could go off for a guy that could go off for 40. No,

18:31

that could go off, that could go off for 40. No,

18:33

that could go off, that could go for 40. No,

18:35

that could go off, that could go off, that could

18:37

go for 40. No, that could go off, that could

18:39

go off, that could go off, that could go for

18:41

40. No, that could go off, that could go for

18:43

40. If you took Tatum and Brown off the team

18:45

and you just had Derek White out there one of

18:48

those nights, be like, hey man, we need you to

18:50

really be aggressive. He probably could go for 47. The

18:52

way he shoots the ball, the playmaking part, I don't

18:54

know. I don't know if he's gonna have

18:56

45 with 8 and 8. I do think

18:58

he could go for 40. I'm not trying

19:00

to say, Austin Reeves is clearly something

19:03

that... Well yeah, Derek White's on

19:05

the floor to do other things.

19:07

He rebound deflections and then he's a...

19:09

All League defenders. So like, that's

19:11

why it makes him talented, right? It's

19:13

like, some people maybe have Josh

19:15

Hart ranked ahead of Austin Reeves,

19:17

but like, Josh Hart could never score

19:19

45, but that's not what makes Josh

19:22

Hart good good. Josh Hart's gonna give

19:24

you 15, but he's gonna give you

19:26

15, but he's gonna give you seven

19:28

eight rebounds, he's gonna have seven eight

19:30

rebounds, he's gonna have any loose ball

19:32

that's near him, you can go ahead and

19:34

chalk it up, it's his, that's what he does.

19:36

It's bad if you start all of them. If

19:38

you start Reeves, Lucca, LeBron, Hochi, Moore, they don't

19:41

have, who's going on the bench, they don't have, I mean,

19:43

I mean, we talked about this last time, with Gabe Vincent,

19:45

these guys, they're not really that creators, and the

19:47

second unit always needs one. Those guys are good

19:49

when they're playing around really good players. Then we

19:51

talked about how LeBron could always run with the

19:53

second unit if he's not doing as much with

19:56

Lucca in the first unit. Yeah, you could take

19:58

one of them, you could take one of them, like Reeves

20:00

off the bench for this team with with Luka

20:02

there I don't think Reeves is a bench player

20:04

I think Reeves could start on a lot of

20:07

teams in the end. So I was paying Pritchard

20:09

exactly so let me just get that straight I'm

20:11

not calling Reeves a bench player I don't think

20:13

Reeves is a six man type of role I

20:15

think for this team he should be that type

20:18

of role on another team you might be your

20:20

starting to but for for what's all tens of

20:22

purposes of purposes of right now and just them

20:24

having a balanced attack with both Honestly,

20:27

if I'm Austin Reeves, I would want to

20:29

be in the second unit. The ball's gonna

20:31

be in my hands, but otherwise, with

20:33

Luca LeBron out there, it might... I

20:35

don't know how much the ball's gonna be

20:37

in his hands. We saw him have 45,

20:40

because this guy was coming off picking rolls

20:42

and behind the back and stepbacks and doing

20:44

some stuff, like, that was available to

20:46

him. With both of those guys on

20:48

the floor, I don't know if Reeves

20:50

gets that same. Now the ball's in your

20:53

hands. And you can still bring back

20:55

one of those guys, you know, to

20:57

play the second unit, but Reeves will

20:59

be one of the guys who, you

21:01

know, obviously influences the offense a little

21:03

bit more. So I would have him

21:06

off the bench. With Mark Williams, the

21:08

trade being rescinded, crazy. That

21:10

doesn't happen often. That doesn't

21:12

happen. That doesn't happen. That

21:14

doesn't happen. That doesn't happen.

21:17

That doesn't happen to, that's

21:19

the trade being, crazy. was

21:21

traded as a funder, filled of

21:23

physical, from that Charlotte, same

21:25

Charlotte organization, and he ended

21:27

up playing like 15 more years

21:29

in the NBA. So Mark Williams,

21:32

this isn't exactly like a career

21:34

death sentence, right? Like types of

21:36

channel, I was able to play way

21:38

longer after that. The Lakers, I just

21:41

think, they've realized they've gave up a

21:43

lot for this guy, and if they

21:45

don't think he's fully healthy, they

21:47

don't want to make a bad

21:49

trade, especially, you know, You know, so

21:51

listen, it's a weird situation to be

21:54

in for both players. You go back to

21:56

a place where it's not that you don't

21:58

feel welcomed, but they... at the

22:00

end of the day we're trying to get

22:02

better by moving you and that's not

22:04

a good feeling to have. It'd be like

22:06

your girlfriend, you know, picking a new

22:09

guy, trading you for a new guy and

22:11

then the trade doesn't go through. You'd

22:13

be back with her like, well, I know

22:15

you want someone else or you think

22:17

you can be better without me. It's not

22:19

a weird, it's a weird thing. I

22:21

remember and situation was different because I ended

22:24

up not going even traveling with the

22:26

team again. I was with the Wizards and

22:28

me and Kelly Ubrea got traded and

22:30

the trade got resended because they got the

22:32

wrong Brooks wrong. And for whatever reason,

22:34

somebody's under the impression

22:37

that they're getting Dylan Brooks and not

22:39

Marshawn Brooks. So we were told after the

22:41

game that me and him got traded.

22:43

We were on our way out. I mean,

22:45

I wasn't even, I got my bags,

22:47

went back to the hotels and I'm just

22:49

to stay the night and then travel

22:51

to Phoenix because that's where I thought I

22:53

was headed. I was very excited because

22:55

I was playing for the Wizards team, which

22:57

I don't know if anybody knows, but

22:59

that probably won't be the worst organizations I've

23:01

ever played. At that time, different people

23:03

running it now. And

23:06

then they said they got

23:08

the Brooks wrong, which would happen

23:10

with them. So

23:13

we ended up riding the plane back with the team

23:15

that just traded us and me and Kelly were on

23:17

that plane. I

23:19

remember the GM walked by and said,

23:21

hey, sorry, this is a weird position

23:23

to be in, but we all love

23:26

y 'all. And I remember he walked away

23:28

and I looked at Kelly and Kelly

23:30

goes, fuck

23:32

that guy. So

23:34

you and Kelly, obviously you sat next to each other on the plane.

23:37

we sat next to each other. We talked it. I

23:39

remember John there all cracking jokes at

23:41

the plane, but it was just like,

23:43

it was part of the business. Plus

23:45

we knew that was our last plane

23:47

ride with them. So we were just

23:50

like, all right, this is weird, but

23:52

okay, it just happens. For this, it's

23:54

even more weird because you got to

23:56

finish out the year with them. It's

23:58

one thing. I had a plane ride.

24:00

back. Dalton Connect has to figure out a way to

24:02

get back on the court. You know what I mean?

24:04

Is that trade? The tricky thing is the trade

24:06

that line already passing. And the the tricky

24:08

thing for I'm sure Dalton's mind is man

24:11

two three months ago I was to steal

24:13

the draft. I was the guy that LeBron

24:15

was tweeting about like man y'all fucked up

24:17

we got Dalton Connect. How fast it goes.

24:19

That's another roller coaster right? This guy

24:22

has an unbelievable college season. Yep. Slides

24:24

in the draft is 17. Everyone's wondering

24:26

why. So then he's probably feeling like,

24:28

what the hell. Then he goes to

24:31

the Lakers? Yeah, they goes to the

24:33

Lakers. Everyone else has some games. Everybody's

24:35

like, yo, this dude is, we got

24:38

a star, look out Reeves. This guy's

24:40

taking all of your minutes, Reeves.

24:42

That's what people. This guy's taking

24:44

all of your minutes, Reeves. That's

24:47

taking all your minutes, Reeves. This

24:49

guy's taking all your minutes, Reeves.

24:51

That's what people. you know, Reeves is

24:53

going to have to be much aside here

24:55

and like this, this is the guy. Fast

24:57

forward, they're trying to trade and Reeves going

24:59

for 48 and 8. So you just like,

25:02

it's so hard to pin something on

25:04

somebody and just like the roller coaster

25:06

of just emotions and overall just anything, just

25:08

how much the NBA can be a roller coaster for players.

25:10

It's, it's unbelievable. You always say don't ever, don't ever get

25:12

too high, don't ever get too low. Ever Dylan Brooks when

25:14

the Grizzliesley's lost, like, like... and the post game, they're not

25:16

bringing them back, which is like the weirdest thing ever. Then

25:19

he plays with Team Canada, scores like 38 or 39 against

25:21

USA. Then he could sign an 80 million dollar deal, so

25:23

the Grizzlies, people are talking about, he's not gonna be in

25:25

the NBA anymore, sounds like 80 million dollar deal, and now

25:27

he's a pretty key part for a top three seat in

25:29

the West. So it's the roller coaster of like, it's so.

25:31

No, I remember when they said they said they're not bringing

25:34

Dylan Brooks back, they're not bringing Dylan Brooks back, people, people,

25:36

they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're

25:38

like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like,

25:40

they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're

25:42

like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like,

25:44

they're like, they This guy goes to Team Canada Hopes,

25:46

gets 80 million, and now he's like, you know,

25:49

the fourth best player in like a competing team

25:51

in the West. It just like, just don't ever

25:53

count yourself out, don't ever count yourself in. Yeah.

25:55

Just don't get too comfortable, either way. You know,

25:57

especially in the NBA, it's such a cold business.

26:00

If we haven't learned anything from just the things

26:02

we just talked about, the best part in the

26:04

world got traded out and people in his own

26:06

ownership or new ownership was talking shit about him.

26:08

This could happen. So it's just like if you

26:10

could get traded, Luka can get traded, anybody

26:12

can get traded. Anybody can get traded.

26:14

Anybody is available. This is the Western

26:16

NBA. All right? This is that new age

26:19

NBA where people are just, it's not the 80

26:21

or 90s where you play for a team for

26:23

a team for seven years, seven years, man. You

26:25

can be a don't connect four or five months

26:27

ago, be untouchable is what they call them. Our

26:30

player connects untouchable, man, they're about to just move

26:32

him from Mark Williams out of nowhere. So that

26:34

just tells you like, the NBA and where it's

26:36

at right now, and then you wonder why

26:39

players don't have any loyalty to any fan

26:41

bases or anything like that, because this is

26:43

what they're dealing with, man. It's nuts. And

26:45

that's why we do appreciate when you get

26:47

a stuff. or Janus, or Nicola. And you

26:49

see one of these guys who are just

26:52

with one team and don't want to move.

26:54

It's refreshing. And then we see this stuff

26:56

with Jimmy, and it pulls you back into

26:58

why Owners Actors Actors. I mean, I'm not

27:00

saying that's why, because of Jimmy, because the

27:02

owners have been trading players for years.

27:04

But you see that, you're like, how

27:07

good this is for basketball. You know what

27:09

I mean, like, it's just crazy, man. This

27:11

year has really taught me. Like goodness gracious

27:13

man like that's one thing I don't

27:15

miss about the NBA the exhaustion of

27:17

just like being unsettled every day

27:19

and not knowing if your family is going to

27:21

be moved or where your career trajectory could be

27:23

if you go to the wrong team with the

27:25

wrong fit and play for a coach that doesn't

27:27

believe in you you could go from being a

27:30

guy just scored 20 points a game or 18

27:32

points a game 15 a game doing a team

27:34

or like you're barely playing you're like am I

27:36

gonna be at the league? That's how weird it

27:38

is. And you obviously though with that, we don't have to

27:40

get it too into it, but I know you felt like

27:42

there were certain situations that didn't best, you

27:44

know, let you reach your potential and it

27:46

kind of probably makes you think, this is messing

27:49

with my potential legacy, my money, and all these

27:51

things. You can't help to think these thoughts, because in

27:53

the moment you can't see the light at the end

27:55

of the tunnel, because it's not realistic yet. All you

27:57

have is where you have is where you're at.

27:59

And the NBA, all you have is where you are. I don't

28:01

know who I'm playing with next, and I don't know if that opportunity

28:03

is ever gonna come. I used to go to the practice facility when

28:06

I was in New Orleans every day and work out and practice after

28:08

the game and get shots up. And people are like, okay, I see

28:10

you staying ready. I'm like, no, no, I'm not staying ready for you

28:12

guys. I'm not here working out for the pelicans. This is for whoever

28:14

I play for next. I'm here. I'm here in the gym, after the

28:16

gym, after the gym, after the game, after the game, after the game,

28:18

after the game, at 1 AM, at 1 AM, at 1 AM, at

28:20

1 AM, at 1 AM, at 1 AM, at 1 AM, at 1

28:22

AM, at 1 AM, at 1 AM, 1 AM, 1 AM, 1 AM,

28:24

1 AM, 1 AM, 1 AM, 1 AM, 1 AM, 1, 1, 1,

28:26

1, 1, playing for myself. I'm actually in the middle of the game

28:28

right now in my head, having fun, remembering who I am and who

28:30

I was. I would go there three, two, one, so

28:33

I could just fall back in love with the game

28:35

that got me this far. I always tell

28:37

people if you're not playing right now,

28:39

don't work, if you're not playing right now,

28:41

don't work out for the team. You don't

28:43

want no problems. You stay ready, you

28:45

stay supporting your teammates, you clap on

28:48

the bench, you give high energy, you give

28:50

high energy, but there's going to be high-

28:52

But I used to, my dad used to tell

28:54

me that, go to the damn gym and work

28:57

out. Work out for whoever you're with

28:59

next. It ended up being him.

29:01

And I was ready. But again, I

29:03

go from the other side. I went

29:05

from LA where I'm averaging 15 again.

29:07

I go to the worst organization and

29:09

basketball at the time. Was

29:12

the Wizards before that team blew up.

29:14

I got dropped in a volcano 20 minutes

29:16

for eruption. And I was in

29:18

there like, holy shit. It was awful.

29:20

Holy shit. I had to go back from scratch

29:23

even though a year earlier I was having 15

29:25

a game, hitting game winners, all type of shit. Now

29:27

like, signing a 10 day with the rockets, that's how

29:29

crazy the NBA is. So yeah, it's nuts.

29:31

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29:33

miss. You got to think about a guy

29:35

like our friend, you know, Vusovich, who he's

29:37

watching all these players on the bulls, just

29:40

trade off people left and right, he's thinking

29:42

I'm probably next. Zach's gone, all these guys

29:44

are gone and after the deadline he's still

29:46

there, he's probably like, I got 20 more

29:48

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29:50

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29:53

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Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. You

31:02

talked about Jimmy, obviously, going to the Warriors. They

31:05

are in what you call the honeymoon

31:08

stage. Did you see him and

31:10

stuff in the connection? Yeah, they were

31:12

having, like, that is the honeymoon stage, man.

31:14

They play the Bulls team that's just

31:16

like, they don't really have anything going on,

31:18

obviously, for them right now. Oh, yeah,

31:20

yeah. And they just, they had a ball

31:22

and they're like, well, we're opposites. I

31:24

shoot threes and he gets the free throw

31:26

line and we're brothers. They

31:30

were having so much fun. Good for them, man. It's

31:33

nice to see Jimmy smile and step smile. I don't

31:35

have been smiling a lot this year. No, no, it's

31:37

a different reason to see it in this stage and

31:39

you hope it lasts and you

31:41

hope it ages. Well, we don't know if it

31:43

will. No one does. I could tell

31:45

you the first game looked really good. They play the Bulls,

31:47

but still an NBA team. That's why that's a good thing.

31:49

That maybe you should come back. Like you said, my first

31:51

game with the Clippers I played against Kyrie Irving and

31:53

LeBron. Maybe it's nice to have your first game with a

31:55

new team. My next game was Versac in Sacramento. I played

31:57

it. I played it amazing. Yeah, I was just like. That's

32:00

what I didn't play amazing, but I played much

32:02

better than I did the night before I was like,

32:04

that's the game I probably should have just came

32:07

in and eased into it and then got ready for

32:09

this this this big time game But on the

32:11

same accord there sometimes when you jump into it It

32:13

goes one way the other you either just hit

32:15

you go start the game five or five and everybody's

32:17

like, oh We got a or or it's just

32:19

like You know what

32:21

I mean like some people in their

32:23

first big game in a new situation

32:25

like it They remember Stauskas first game

32:27

with who was it we were Nick

32:29

Stauskas. So Portland It his first game

32:31

of the year. I want to say

32:33

it was Philly

32:36

I Want to say he's playing for Philly. He

32:39

had like 27. I was like

32:41

Stauskas found a fit He's a shooter this

32:43

guy's that's one of those guys I never

32:45

understood how he couldn't make it the end.

32:47

So Clay Thompson was just like everyone

32:49

was like man We gotta find every team into Clay Thompson

32:51

and Stauskas was like this is gonna be our clay Thompson,

32:53

right? It was I just don't understand how I didn't because

32:55

he could shoot the ball He's one of those guys you

32:57

would hear about when he's just shooting around like in a

32:59

workout or something He'll go like a hundred without missing and then

33:01

the lights came on as I always say and I

33:04

said I was on the spot too many times But you

33:06

bring it up every time I've seen him shoot not

33:08

miss these guys are insane But Nick Stauskas you always heard

33:10

no I just I remember him just being a

33:12

talented player and it just never really worked out

33:14

from in the NBA I always wondered why didn't

33:16

just because he could shoot and with the NBA

33:18

and how you know The direction of which it's going and

33:20

how the games played You would imagine

33:22

or think he would fit right in you know considering you

33:24

see some of these other guys in places fit Like

33:26

some of those players for the for the calves They have

33:28

some wear and the other guy they just come off

33:30

and shoot there like if they could do it Stauskas could

33:32

definitely do it You would think and he's kind of

33:34

athletic low -key like yeah, I thought he had a chance

33:36

I heard Sacramento was really hard with him and that kind

33:38

of you know He didn't fit in with

33:40

some of those guys culturally there and it just kind of

33:42

went downhill for there But yeah, random shot. I'll shot

33:44

the next Stauskas man. He's a talented Michigan basketball player. Yeah

33:48

But um You were talking about

33:50

like the new team having new life if you

33:52

yeah, yeah, Jimmy Butler caught an alley up

33:54

for his first play He hasn't jumped that high

33:56

in a few years. He got up There's

33:58

so much about that that wasn't right. For

34:00

a fray I haven't seen you jump like that

34:03

in a while Jimmy so what the fuck was

34:05

that? Secondly when the hell did Buddy Hill know

34:07

how to throw a lob? I have never seen

34:09

Buddy Hill throw anything towards the rim except a

34:11

three pointer. He's either shooting or I just

34:13

don't know what he does. I've never seen

34:15

him do a quick log, but it was

34:17

right on target too. So maybe he brought

34:20

him some new life too. Yeah, the whole

34:22

team, but this, you listen, that's what a

34:24

trade like that can do. You bring a

34:26

Jimmy Butler to your team. The only hope

34:28

in thought is that we're gonna be better.

34:30

Like, they didn't get Jimmy Butler and keep

34:33

comminga and have Dre and stepped

34:35

there and stepped there and stuff

34:37

there. That has to be the feeling

34:39

there. Otherwise, why do it? And then

34:42

they sign them to a two-year, 120

34:44

million dollar extension. Which we agree is

34:46

good on both sides. It is good

34:48

on both sides. It's good for Jimmy,

34:51

for one, you're making 60 at age

34:53

35. You can call yourself a Max

34:55

player, which you can tell he's the

34:57

kind of a Max player, which you

34:59

could tell he's the kind of

35:01

guy that wants to make him.

35:03

You're making 60 at age 35.

35:06

they're all off the books anyway.

35:08

So at that point, it's a

35:10

perfect deal for the Warriors as

35:12

well. And listen, they looked good.

35:14

They're an exciting team. We'll see

35:16

where they go. They're behind the

35:18

eight ball, man. All right, they've

35:20

dug themselves a hole. They started

35:22

out the season well. They've started

35:24

out the season well. They've really

35:26

fallen back over the past few

35:28

months. Now they got Jimmy with some

35:30

new life. How does this finish? Is it

35:33

a playing? How does that, because listen, OKC,

35:35

see, we've had some some questions about

35:37

how they how they perform in

35:39

the playoffs and their lack of

35:41

experience and although they're very talented

35:43

and youthful, that's also a slight,

35:45

not a slight, but it's also

35:47

a negative. They're very youthful, like

35:49

they're only negative. Yeah. So, only

35:52

negative is the lack of experience and

35:54

know how to go get things done.

35:56

So, you're going against the Warriors team

35:58

and Dre and Steph and Jimmy. they're

36:00

playing the rockets somehow like the Grizzlies were like

36:02

a top seat right if I'm saying it's free

36:04

about okay see what they end up playing if

36:06

the Warriors are the seven seats and then apply

36:09

the Warriors play the Grizzlies they they beat him

36:11

really and I think if the Warriors play the

36:13

rockets they beat him but look like you know

36:15

what my favorite thing about this trade for the

36:17

Warriors from the Warriors perspective is before they were

36:19

playing these 12-man rotations and all these guys they

36:21

had way too many guys they couldn't figure out

36:23

a lineup they couldn't figure out a lineup Buddy

36:26

Heeled could be a traditional two. Jimmy Butler, three,

36:28

Dream on Green, four. Now you actually have, and

36:30

then Pajemsky off the bench is the ball handler.

36:32

Now you actually look like a real team instead

36:34

of, yeah, we have 10 guys that we play.

36:36

We're just going to throw them all out there.

36:38

Yeah, at this point, that's what you could do

36:41

with a Jimmy. You just throw them out there

36:43

with anybody. Because he's like a Swiss army knife

36:45

anyway. He's not like a guy that needs a

36:47

ball in his hands all the time. He's not

36:49

a guy that you have to run an offense

36:51

through. The system is Steph, everyone knows that. You

36:53

saw it last game. Jimmy would just find his

36:56

way in there. So, but they still have some,

36:58

you know, adjustments that need to be made. Bro,

37:00

I'm watching that Warriors game. There are so many

37:02

times, bro, where like, Steph would make a pass.

37:04

He would make a move pass, he, he, he,

37:06

he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,

37:08

he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,

37:11

he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,

37:13

he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,

37:15

he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,

37:17

he, he, he, he, he, he, I don't even

37:19

play for the Warriors, and I know he's coming

37:21

back around. And I would see, I'm not going

37:23

to name the names, bro, a couple of their

37:25

young players. They would sit there and you'd see

37:28

Dremen and go, and they would go get him.

37:30

Now it's too late because the defense knows because

37:32

Dremen just pointed. So now Step gets off and

37:34

he has to hoist still got a shot off

37:36

and he made it because he was hot, but

37:38

it was a way harder shot because you were

37:40

fucking standing there. It's like, how do you not

37:43

get it? Brother, there's play there. I'm gonna send

37:45

you a couple clips. There's a play where, like,

37:47

Pigeonski's, like, holding it, and Steph comes off, Scott

37:49

free. But he's too busy looking at the back

37:51

screen for Jimmy. I'm like, pass the ball. I

37:53

brought one. You're like, you're late, you're late, and

37:55

Steve got a late and still made it, but

37:58

you're late. It's like, I watched them and I

38:00

get so frustrated because it's like, you've got to

38:02

know how they play by now, man. I know

38:04

and I don't even play for the Warriors. I

38:06

don't even play for the Warriors, dog. I know

38:08

and I don't even play for the Warriors, dog.

38:10

I probably miss those best I can, but I

38:13

probably miss those best, I can, I think, I

38:15

was, I don't even play for, I don't even

38:17

play for the Warriors, but, I don't even play

38:19

for the Warriors, but, but, but, but, I've, still

38:21

made, but, still made, but, but, but, I've, still

38:23

made, still made, but, but, but, still made, but, but,

38:25

but, still made, but, but, but, still made, but, but, still

38:28

made, but, but, but, but, still made, Someone to

38:30

screen for him. It drives me fucking insane

38:32

guarding him. That's why I like the Jimmy

38:34

because Jimmy Bring in some fucking guys

38:36

and not a place of basketball bro, bring

38:38

in some grown men who played and have

38:40

high IQ games dog It's like come on.

38:42

Yeah, and it also Satisfies one of my big

38:44

things where I always say if you have

38:47

a star player like stuff, and we did

38:49

it with we talked about with Lucca You

38:51

need to bring in the star that the

38:53

guy that the guy respects like Luca we

38:56

knew karaering is one of all hoopers respect.

38:58

So bringing him in, that's a perfect pairing,

39:00

right? And I think with stuff, he respects

39:02

Jimmy Butler, and there's a level there where

39:04

they can coexist. I think it's all

39:07

about bringing in the star that

39:09

the other star absolutely respects. Yes,

39:11

that helps. You know, I mean, listen,

39:13

it'll be interesting with Jimmy and Dreymont.

39:15

Again, you said the honeymoon phase. What

39:18

about, you know, 10, 15 games for

39:20

now? What about in the playoffs? What

39:22

about in the playoffs? What about in

39:24

the playoffs? But it's also Dream On's

39:27

team. So I don't know how that...

39:29

Again, it's nice to see the

39:31

honeymoon phase. It's beautiful when my

39:33

boy gets a new girl. And

39:35

I see them walk around holding

39:37

hands and they're all over each other.

39:40

And you sit then you just go,

39:42

ah, enjoy it. Enjoy it. Never too

39:44

high, number too low. Right now, what

39:46

you're experiencing is the best you'll be.

39:49

It's the best you'll be. No. We'll

39:51

see how it ages like wine or

39:53

milk. We don't know. We don't know.

39:55

We're talking about this. We're talking about this after the

39:57

last part. I don't think we talked about it all.

40:00

on the pod where you have LeBron

40:02

Steff and Katie, right? Those are the

40:04

three elder statesmen that are still playing

40:06

at a high level. LeBron gets Luca,

40:08

Steff gets Jimmy Butler, he's getting something,

40:11

right? I know they were going for

40:13

Katie, but they got Jimmy Butler. And

40:15

on the other one, KD, they were

40:17

trying to trade him, they didn't do

40:20

anything for him, they didn't, that's just

40:22

like, man, that's tough. And I didn't

40:24

even know I was being shopped. And

40:26

then, you know, not to mention, their

40:28

chemistry wasn't really at a peak high

40:31

anyway. So, I don't know what Phoenix

40:33

does. I don't know who really is

40:35

making the decisions over there. I don't

40:37

know if it's James Jones, I don't

40:40

know what's managed for you. I hear

40:42

different things. I don't know what direction

40:44

they're headed in. I could tell you,

40:46

it doesn't look good and it hasn't

40:49

worked. So, I don't know.

40:51

You know, it's tough to point

40:53

the finger at someone when you

40:55

don't know what's going on, who's

40:57

calling the shots. I can point,

41:00

I can go to Dallas and

41:02

you know what's going on down

41:04

there, who's made the decisions, and

41:06

you know this team and what

41:08

they made us, I don't know

41:11

what's going on over there. I

41:13

don't know what's going on over

41:15

there. And I don't know. It

41:17

shocked me because they have such

41:19

talented players. Even this year, I

41:21

didn't have them winning the championship,

41:24

but I had them being competitive.

41:26

Just for the sake that you

41:28

have Devin and Kevin on the

41:30

floor. Two Olympic player, two Olympians.

41:32

All right, there's only a few

41:34

duos that had, or two, there's

41:37

only a couple teams that had

41:39

two players on that Olympic team.

41:41

The Lakers, the Celtics, and the

41:43

Phoenix Suns. They're two Olympians that

41:45

played and started. They had two

41:48

starters in the Olympics. These are

41:50

two high level basketball players. You're

41:52

talking about one of the greatest

41:54

players of all time, Kevin Durant.

41:56

All right. And then you talking

41:58

about. and if we're gonna be

42:01

honest, the past, what, decade, 10 years,

42:03

eight years, Devin Booker is one of

42:05

the best shooting guards in the media. So,

42:07

I don't know. I mean, this has been like, it's

42:09

just, it's been disappointing. And then you even had

42:11

Brad Bill, who I know is like at the

42:13

end of his prime, he came in the same

42:16

class I came in, so he's 32, about to

42:18

be 33 this summer, he's played 13 years. These

42:20

guys are a lot of miles on those legs

42:22

on those legs, but still very productive, but

42:25

still very productive, you know, you know, you

42:27

know, you know, you know, Like, Brad still got

42:29

some boppin' in his step and

42:31

could still play, like, still got

42:33

game. I don't know why it hasn't

42:35

worked as well as I thought it

42:38

would. You get Royce O'Neal, and then

42:40

you had Air Gore, and this is

42:42

last year's team. I've seen these,

42:44

Eric's on a different team, but

42:46

Eric's on a different team, but,

42:48

you know, Royce, Grayson Allen, coming

42:51

off a great year, and you

42:53

had all these different things, like.

42:55

Is there a good solid pros

42:57

surrounded by stars? At the very

42:59

least, I thought you middle the pack.

43:02

Can we get you a 450?

43:04

You know what I'm saying? And

43:06

then like we'll see what happens

43:08

when they're like they're just crawling

43:10

right now. And it's just, it's,

43:13

it's, it's, it's, it's caught me by

43:15

surprise, man, for real.

43:17

Yesterday. Bad news you're honestly gonna be out

43:19

for a little bit of time those we always

43:21

talk about the calf strain and calf stuff ever

43:23

since KD in 2019 It's always tricky. You got

43:25

to take your time. Yeah, yeah, obviously Lucas is

43:27

dealing with that too But you just beat the

43:29

Sixers and the Sixers had their big three play

43:32

and that was obviously Hubie Brown's last

43:34

game. He's 91 years old. Do you have any

43:36

Hubie stories? I know you obviously is probably called

43:38

a bunch of I don't have any Hubie stories

43:40

I could just tell you he's I could just

43:42

tell you he's I could just tell you he's I could

43:44

just tell you he's favorite

43:46

announcements, color analysts, doesn't

43:49

over speak, doesn't over talk,

43:51

has a high IQ for the

43:53

game, obviously coached in the NBA

43:56

as well, and just is a very

43:58

likable person. So,

44:00

man, 91, just even more blessings to

44:02

you, that is an unbelievable achievement within

44:04

itself. Goals, honestly. I mean, I think

44:07

every man would like to live to

44:09

90 plus years old. That'd be a

44:11

blessing in their kids as well. So,

44:13

man, just a legend. To see him

44:15

be able to call games as long

44:17

as he has, I've always enjoyed listening

44:20

to him. And yeah, there's much respect.

44:22

Something you always hear people when they

44:24

talk about his announcing is... He does

44:26

something that it's really hard to explain

44:28

his impact on the game when the

44:30

way he is able to always supplement

44:33

every fact with a stat or something

44:35

behind and it's always his his approval

44:37

ratings is super hot. Yeah. So shout

44:39

out to him and about the game,

44:41

I mean, you got the Sixers, they've

44:44

been injured a lot this year, but

44:46

you had your big three out there.

44:48

Yeah, Sixers are two games out of

44:50

the 10 spot. Right. They're 20 and

44:52

32. And they announced that Joe, Joel

44:54

and Beat thinks he needs knee surgery.

44:57

It's it's it's the show's over. Yeah,

44:59

do they wrap it up for this

45:01

show the show's over like Cooper Flad

45:03

type of thing or like what do

45:05

you? Oh, it's too. I mean, he's

45:07

the Hawks got that I want to

45:10

pick last year there with a 10

45:12

seed. Yeah, but you can't trade guys

45:14

when they're trade values. Not hot. Not

45:16

now. Trade deadline's over. So yeah, yeah,

45:18

yeah. I'm talking about this summer. Uh,

45:21

Doolham Beach still has a high trade

45:23

value, man. Even with his injuries, he's

45:25

still someone who's gonna, he's still going

45:27

to get multiple first round picks. So

45:29

yeah, could you wait till he's really?

45:31

Could you wait till he's really good?

45:34

Until he's really first round picks. So

45:36

yeah, could you wait till he's really

45:38

good? Obviously before the playoff start, if

45:40

that. regardless of which he'll be healthy

45:42

this summer at some point I would

45:44

try to move him then. You can

45:47

get multiple first round picks for him

45:49

and maybe even a couple young talented

45:51

players. I'm restarting. Maxie stays. Everyone else

45:53

has got to go. Everyone's out. McCain

45:55

stays. Maxie stays. Maybe a couple of

45:58

other young talented players they have. I'm

46:00

not really too familiar with the end

46:02

of their bench. I haven't really seen

46:04

that. Everyone else got to go. I

46:06

don't know what you could give for Paul. You

46:08

gave him a four-year deal. He's three

46:11

years left on that deal now. I don't

46:13

know how tradable he is and how

46:15

many people really want him. He doesn't

46:17

play a lot of games. That's not

46:19

what you want to hear, all right?

46:21

Especially for a guy who got Max.

46:23

You didn't pay Paul. You paid him a

46:26

Max contract. Or the only player who's really

46:28

played at a max level is Maxie,

46:30

no pun and did it, I'm not

46:32

trying to be funny. That's it. Everyone

46:35

else, and Bede's been up and down

46:37

with injury, it's been a roller coaster

46:39

of his season. But when it became

46:41

a place, he's good, it's just a.

46:43

But it's been, it's a roller coaster

46:45

with him, man. The season started off

46:48

Rocky, had a lot of stuff going on,

46:50

and it's tough when you have that,

46:52

and then another player's just like that.

46:54

Paul George. Paul George. I'm not

46:56

knocking Paul George is a basketball

46:58

player, I'm not knocking Joel and

47:00

Beatas best player, we don't question

47:02

how they are when they play

47:05

in their healthy. Paul George is

47:07

a very valid pro, he's signed

47:09

Max before this for a reason,

47:11

he's been a star in the NBA for

47:13

a very long time, very talented

47:15

wing, very long time, and he's been

47:18

a star in the NBA for a

47:20

very long time, very talented wing. Joel

47:22

and Beatiz an MVP and a very

47:24

valid pro. exhausting thing to deal with.

47:26

And then on top of that, you

47:28

know, you just don't have any consistency. How the

47:30

hell are you supposed to build a rapport

47:33

with the guys who aren't even around half

47:35

the time or playing? So then you got this

47:37

young guy Maxie out there having some big-time

47:39

games without these guys getting into a rhythm

47:41

and then before you know it now his

47:43

roles totally changed because he got both them

47:45

on the floor again and it's like weird.

47:47

It is tough for him. He averaged 27

47:49

points a game. I saw a stat that

47:51

he's a top five scoring average of NBA history

47:53

to not make an all-star game. He's

47:55

up there with Brad Beel and the

47:57

Wizards and the Wizards and stuff like that.

47:59

If Philly right now is a third or

48:02

fourth spot, Maxie would be in the

48:04

All-Star game. But they just replaced, you

48:06

know, Janus with Trey. Do you think

48:08

that's the right call? Yes, yes, yes,

48:10

yes, yes, yes. I don't think Pascal

48:12

would have got in. But to respect

48:14

Pascal, they're 29 and 22 in the

48:16

fourth seat, and he's the best part

48:18

in the team. Someone's got to get

48:20

in. Yeah, all right. We talked about

48:22

the East, the East, the front court

48:24

for the East was, was a front

48:26

court for the East, was, was, yeah.

48:28

But they've hung strong, man. I mean,

48:30

they're still battling for spot, quietly, no

48:33

one talks about the Pacers anymore. A

48:35

lot of that's due to like, the

48:37

only reason people talked about them was

48:39

the excitement of Halliburton last year, and

48:41

that's obviously died down. He's not really

48:43

an all-star player this year, at least.

48:45

And you know, with it, they've kind

48:47

of just flown on the radar. But

48:49

you know, they find themselves in the

48:51

sports spot, mashed up against the one

48:53

and only, one and only, one and

48:55

only, That's what it looks like it's

48:57

going to be right. And then how

48:59

about Detroit? I'm just like looking at

49:01

these standings right now, blown away. Detroit's

49:03

in the sixth spot. Look at them,

49:05

just fighting to be in the playoffs.

49:07

Take Cunningham. Is you your most improved

49:09

player? Yes. yes by a landslide well

49:12

there's a Norman Powell argument that you

49:14

could make somewhere that would be second

49:16

for me yeah because he's he went

49:18

from good to really good you know

49:20

they both have made huge jobs I'm

49:22

just going with the young guy but

49:24

but Norman to put some strength on

49:26

in respect in his name you know

49:28

essentially has gone from being there's like

49:30

a role player which has been like

49:32

a role-star you know what I mean

49:34

I that's he's he's played very well

49:36

24 points per game is all-star like

49:38

numbers so I know I know he

49:40

didn't he's had a hell of a

49:42

year and yeah definitely big props to

49:44

Norman Powell. So before we wrap up

49:46

we talked about I think it was

49:48

on October we talked about is this

49:51

the best time for sports with it

49:53

was the World Series football was going

49:55

on basketball I just started now we're

49:57

talking about March coming up and I

49:59

feel like a ball it's it's it's

50:01

you I think it's just more your

50:03

time. Football's over. March Madness. We have

50:05

we have NBA. This is your time.

50:07

This is your time. This is my

50:09

favorite time of the year. You want

50:11

to know why? A little warmer outside

50:13

too. It's getting hot outside too. Summer

50:15

is around the corner. Yeah, especially where

50:17

we're from. Summer is already here. It's

50:19

beautiful outside. And it's all basketball. It's all hoops.

50:22

Yeah. No more B. B.S. I got to worry

50:24

about it. We're gonna talk about Cooper, that's like,

50:26

they had three losses again, crunch time, you

50:28

fell, but I don't know what to say, there's

50:30

nothing really to say about that. It's just really,

50:33

but the other two losses to have against Kansas,

50:35

Kentucky, game when the lining at the ball, he's fell or turned

50:37

it over, like lost it. Yeah, but you know, he's fell or

50:39

turned it over, like lost it. Yeah, like lost it. Yeah, but,

50:41

he's fell or turned it over, like, like, like, like, like, like,

50:43

lost it, like, lost it, like, lost it, like, lost

50:45

it, lost it, like, lost, lost, like, lost, lost, lost,

50:48

like, lost, lost, lost, lost, lost, like, lost, lost, lost,

50:50

lost, lost, lost, like, lost, lost, lost, lost, like, lost,

50:52

lost, lost, lost, lost, like, lost, lost, lost, like, lost,

50:54

lost, he You know, I mean, he's a mile ahead

50:56

of anybody else. So what are we talking about? People

50:58

are like, he's not clutch. I don't care. He's

51:01

18. I don't need him to be clutch right now.

51:03

He's six years away from being his best self.

51:05

I don't care if he's not clutch right now. I

51:07

don't care if he's not clutch right now. I don't

51:09

care if he's not clutch right now. I don't care

51:11

if he's not clutch right now. When you score in

51:13

30 point games and all these type of numbers

51:15

and all these type of numbers that he's

51:18

putting up, you look pretty damn much, you

51:20

look pretty damn clutch to me. Now I

51:22

know Clutch is defined as what you do

51:24

in the last minutes of the game, but

51:27

he's made tons of big plays at the

51:29

end of the game to be described as

51:31

clutch. Just because a few times this season

51:34

with the game on the line, he's slipped

51:36

and fell. It's not like he missed

51:38

a shot, airball turned it over.

51:40

He's literally not got a shot

51:42

off because he's fell and slipped. How

51:44

the hell are you going to diagnose

51:46

him as clutch or not? college basketball

51:49

when he should be a senior in high school.

51:51

He skipped a year because it was boring for

51:53

him and he's playing in college basketball

51:55

and I'm sure it's boring for him there

51:57

because he's absolutely annihilating every team that he...

52:00

plays. He's averaging damn year 20 a night, gives

52:02

you 27 and 7 and blocks and steals and

52:04

his teams won 12 in a row. Pretty much

52:06

dunks on you. Donks on people? Like, bro, come

52:08

on, man. Not quite like that. I was one

52:10

of my really bad takes I think early on

52:13

the season where I was like man You know

52:15

what I just I don't know. I think he's

52:17

gonna be a really solid second or third You

52:19

know a good player on a team and all

52:21

he has done is been the best player in

52:23

college basketball and like you said he's supposed to

52:25

be a senior and better and better and better

52:28

and better and better. I was a wrong take

52:30

that I'm just think it's like who you cares

52:32

who cares I if anything it's one area for

52:34

we can improve It looks like everything else is

52:36

flawless. If he's also hitting game winners, then what

52:38

do we have? If he's hit three for three

52:41

game winners, we'd be like, who is he? Michael?

52:43

At least there's something in his game, maybe we

52:45

can work on maybe getting to your spots, maybe

52:47

opening the floor, where do you want to shoot?

52:49

What shot do you want to shoot? What shot

52:51

do you want at the end of the game?

52:53

Where do you want to shoot? What shot do

52:56

you want at the end of the end of

52:58

the end of the game? Where do you? Look

53:00

at the best players. Michael and them got to

53:02

a spot they raised up over somebody. She Alexander

53:04

gets to a spot, raises up somewhere. Luca likes

53:06

his stepback. Trey Young likes to do what he's

53:09

either shooting a three or it's a floater. You

53:11

gotta know, you know what I mean? These are

53:13

things that you figure out. You're not supposed to

53:15

have it figured out at 18 years old man.

53:17

All right, especially when everything else has come so

53:19

easy to you. Let him, let him progress. For

53:21

people saying he's not clutch, A, you're wrong, but

53:24

B, even if you want to be right, who

53:26

gives a damn? It gives us an area to

53:28

improve on and he will get better at these

53:30

things. One of the guys that you name is

53:32

clutch, I know this, they all can shoot mid-range.

53:34

I think there's something about getting to any spot

53:37

on the court. We had this conversation, I know

53:39

this, they all can shoot mid-range. I think there's

53:41

something about getting to, it, it goes right back

53:43

to any, it, it, it, it, it, All the

53:45

best players in the NBA have a good men

53:47

range. All of them. The best players in the

53:49

NBA with exception of centers, I'm talking about guards

53:52

here, guards. All have a mity. Well even, Joelle

53:54

and Joaquin, you have that open. Yeah, have a

53:56

nice little mity. Well, Joelle has a, actually one.

53:58

best middies in the

54:00

NBA. It's like automatic. But

54:04

there's only a handful

54:06

of guys who don't shoot

54:08

midway. Even Steph shoots like

54:10

three, four middies a game. He just shoots like

54:12

10 -three. So everyone's like, three -pointer. People don't

54:14

realize he has like 38 points, but like 16

54:16

of them aren't threes. Like free throws and

54:18

get to the basket and floaters and left hand

54:20

hooks and this, this and that. And he

54:22

has middies. It's part of his game too. But

54:24

with the exception of Steph and really

54:26

harded and Lillard, those are the three

54:28

guys who have always been three layup,

54:31

three layup, three layup. Those have been

54:33

the three guys. Everyone

54:35

else has a middie, man. And

54:37

the best players always have one. Like the MVP

54:39

of the league, always got a middie. Always

54:41

have one, always will. Michael got a middie.

54:44

Shay Alexander right now has a middie. Kevin Durant

54:46

has a middie. All the best scores get to

54:48

one. Paul George is getting with the line. He's

54:50

getting to a midrange. You know what I'm saying?

54:52

Like these guys are gonna get up to a

54:54

midrange, fade away, and it's the best but most. It's

54:57

still the prettiest shot. DeMar DeRozan has, you know,

55:00

but some of the more, the most probably game

55:02

winners in the last five years. And it's all

55:04

because he can get off a middie. James Johnson

55:06

used to, Joe Johnson used to get them off

55:08

all the time because he had a middie. The

55:10

guys that you named that don't really shoot midrange

55:12

shots. He said James, Steph and Damon Lillard. I

55:14

think they're all top five, all time and three

55:16

pointers made anyway. So they're obviously anomalies and special

55:18

cases. I was like, the games progressed. The games

55:20

progressed because like there has been anomalies of guys

55:22

being supersonic at shooting threes and everyone else has

55:24

tried to copy cat, copy and paste. It's

55:27

led to bad basketball and bad ratings, just to be clear.

55:29

The best players still get to a middie when the

55:31

game's on the line. It's a lost start in today's NBA.

55:33

It's considered a bad shot. I get it. There's statistics

55:35

and numbers that back this. But then when it's 98, 98

55:37

and 10 seconds are on the clock, it seems like

55:39

all that shit is in the trash can and people want

55:41

that guy to get to a middie and shoot that

55:43

shot. In fact, when they do, they're like, that's a good

55:45

one. I like that shot. I like that one. But

55:48

the rest of the game, you would have said it's

55:50

a bad one. Well, okay, so as a defender, how much

55:52

harder is it to guard a guy that can not only

55:54

shoot from three but can stop on a dime? If I,

55:56

the hardest player to guard in the NBA is a guy who has

55:58

a mid -range upshot. If I know

56:00

all you do is shoot the three's and lamps,

56:02

I'm just going to get on you and make

56:04

sure you don't get a three on. I'm going

56:06

to press the shit out of you. To the point

56:09

where you have to go around me. And

56:11

if you're in front of me, you can't

56:13

just pull up on a diamond. I'm coming

56:15

right from behind and block the shot.

56:17

I'm forced you to basket a basket,

56:19

I'm coming right from behind, trying to

56:21

block the shot. I'm forced you to ask

56:23

you to ask you to ask you to. Hey, I hate

56:26

guarding three level players. They're the hardest to guard

56:28

Shea Alexander was one of the high I used

56:30

to get in foul trouble every time Gardening because

56:32

I did it know when he was gonna stop

56:34

and shoot or keep going to the basket or

56:36

step back for three I used to just hope

56:38

he'd shoot a three because this three prior to

56:40

like this past year hasn't been really consistent The

56:42

mini now that he has all three you could forget about

56:44

it. He's like unguardable. Yeah, insane But that

56:47

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