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back to off guard I'm your

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host Austin Rivers along with my

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fresh year early morning fresh after

1:38

the all-star snow normally we do

1:40

our pods on Thursdays but we

1:43

knew the all-star the reserves were

1:45

gonna be announced so we wanted

1:47

to wait we wanted to wait

1:49

get get a fresh reaction obviously

1:51

they came out yesterday evening so

1:53

you know listen let's get right

1:55

into it I mean every year

1:57

this happens we have snubs we

1:59

have snubs You know, it's always

2:01

controversial always relate to all -star game. It's

2:03

almost like I don't want to call it

2:05

the Olympics but someone's not making the team,

2:07

you know and but

2:09

I don't think you know

2:11

in the 90s and stuff the snubs were that

2:13

heavy because The stats

2:15

now are so crazy that the guys that don't

2:17

make like subbonus What subbonus is averaging right

2:19

now not making the all -star game would never

2:21

happen like I guess in the 90s I bet

2:24

it went if the numbers were inflated I

2:26

mean, I guess I bet you like someone was

2:28

averaging 20 at that time and didn't make

2:30

it all -star game You know, I mean due

2:32

to their team record or something like that. Well,

2:34

okay So like subbonus is averaging 21 15

2:36

and 7 shooting 61 % from the field What

2:38

was the average in 21 points 15 rebounds 21

2:40

is not gonna get it done 15 rebounds

2:42

7 assists 61 % from the field 15 rebounds

2:44

is incredible. Yeah, I mean, I you know what

2:46

happened I think all 15 rebounds a game

2:48

is I think what happened is the Jesus a

2:50

few years ago and Bradley Biel was averaging

2:52

30 And didn't make the all -star game that

2:54

was that set the tone That's when it was

2:56

the first time we were like wait, you

2:58

can average 30 and I'll make the all -star

3:00

game That's when people started realizing, okay Maybe we

3:02

don't look at stats and you start looking

3:05

at other things like team winning like that was

3:07

the first time I remember thinking Averaging 30

3:09

in the NBA. Yeah, all -star game is crazy.

3:11

So that stood out to me What was the

3:13

biggest snub for you? Biggest snub for me

3:15

betray young He's

3:17

leading the NBA and assist Their

3:21

team has no business if we're looking at their

3:23

roster not to say they don't have some talented players

3:25

Over there they do but let's just call it

3:27

for what it doesn't make sense without Trey young being

3:29

let's call for what it is If Trey young

3:31

seven that team they'd probably be last in the Easter

3:33

or competing with a Charlotte or wizards or whoever

3:35

that'd be That that that would be their cloth That

3:39

one man alone has made

3:41

that team not only Competitive,

3:43

but they're actually like in

3:45

the playoff contention Jalen

3:47

Johnson out for the year really kills me. You

3:49

know, I've been a Hawks guy Him being out for

3:51

the year is yeah, that's a brutal loss. That's

3:53

just they were so exciting They were always my sleeper

3:55

team in the east. I wanted to see a

3:57

top seed play them in the first round and more

3:59

importantly his develop Just he's having a breakout year We could go to give that most

4:01

improved player word to Kate Cunningham now I think I think Jaylon Johnson was the other

4:03

guy that could have got it But I think now it's I think Kate is gonna win it

4:05

regardless just due to the fact that Jaylon is very improved But the level is very improved, but

4:08

the level at which Kate has reached but I don't think anybody thought he was this good even

4:10

though he was a more pick he didn't know it's gonna be maybe no I didn't know because

4:12

I didn't see that members for a whole first for a whole first year he missed for a

4:14

whole first year he missed for a whole first year he missed for a whole first year he

4:16

missed for a whole first year he missed for a whole first year he missed for a whole

4:18

first year he missed for a whole first year he missed for a whole first year he missed

4:20

for a whole first year he missed for a whole first year he missed for a whole first

4:22

year he missed for a whole first year he missed for a whole first year he missed for

4:24

a whole first year he And then he came back last

4:26

year and their team was just so bad that

4:28

like even though he was good It was almost

4:31

hard to see it within that like Just

4:33

I don't know that team was it's hard

4:35

to watch. Yeah, and then Obviously the improvement

4:37

in his game has led to the improvement

4:39

of their team bring well bringing the shooters

4:41

around them to makes him so much better

4:43

when brought some some some some players in

4:45

that a you know that are pros Don't

4:47

get me on my whole rant on about

4:50

how This is what happens when you

4:52

keep vets in the NBA and put

4:54

them on a team. You just don't

4:56

force it and end up doing what like

4:58

some of these teams are doing That's what

5:00

has been key for Detroit. I think

5:02

a lot of these front offices

5:04

are such in a rush to just be

5:07

young and buy job security. Well, I

5:09

look at Houston when they got Van

5:11

Bue and Dylan Brooks and guys like

5:13

that and they're young guys mesh well,

5:15

they're like DC and I look at

5:17

some of these teams and I'm not

5:19

accusing of front office executives

5:22

who purposely start that young and like

5:24

rebuild teams the way they do So they

5:26

can be bad for a long time and

5:28

you would ask yourself Why does that create

5:31

job security? Well in our league when you

5:33

have a better team and you have a

5:35

higher payroll the more pressure it is the

5:37

higher payroll the more pressure it is the

5:40

more pressure it is the more pressure it is

5:42

the more pressure it is the more pressure it

5:44

is the more pressure it is the more pressure

5:46

it is not having present guys guys who are

5:48

actually playing in the game. Detroit wouldn't got Tim

5:50

Haraway Jr. They wouldn't got Blake Beasley. They wouldn't

5:52

got Tobias Harris. These aren't guys that are just

5:54

in the locker room. They're not playing the Garrett

5:56

Temple, Joe Ingalls, Corey Joseph Roll, who were just

5:58

at the end of the. to be like a

6:00

locker room advisor. These are guys who

6:02

are actually playing on the court, just like

6:05

Fred Van Fleet, just like Dylan Brooks,

6:07

Jeff Green, whoever, you know, whatever you want

6:09

to call it. These guys are playing

6:11

and helping young guys not only win, showing

6:13

them how to win. It's very important.

6:15

And they did that for Kade, and Kade

6:17

has reached a different level in play.

6:19

I didn't know he could play make like

6:21

that. He's become one of the more

6:23

premier point guards in the NBA. Most approved,

6:25

I think is locked up with him.

6:27

Back to the snub. Trey Young is leading

6:29

the NBA and assist. Not

6:32

to mention it's not like a

6:34

guy don't like that. Usually a

6:36

guy who leads the NBA and

6:39

assists his points are like 14,

6:41

15 points a game. Like a

6:43

Halliburton, something like that. Trey put

6:45

up 20 plus. What's the averaging

6:47

points per game? Gotta be mid

6:49

-20s. So that's my biggest snub.

6:51

The controversial one we all know

6:54

is Lamello not making it. And

6:56

that is due to the voting

6:58

scale showing itself to not be

7:00

that important. He was voted third

7:02

amongst, I think, anybody, right? Players. And

7:06

he didn't start. Okay, so that's fair. But

7:08

once he didn't get in from the fans,

7:10

you knew the coaches weren't going to vote

7:12

Lamello in. So it was a wrap. And

7:15

you said you called it. We had

7:17

a pot a couple weeks ago when

7:19

they announced, or a week or so

7:21

ago, whatever, when they announced, I'm sorry,

7:23

the all -star starters, you had pointed

7:25

out and been like, amen. Lamello was

7:27

third in voting. He didn't make the

7:29

starting group. I don't know if he

7:32

makes it in because I know he's

7:34

not getting the coach's vote. And you

7:36

know he's not getting the coach's vote

7:38

due to a variety of reasons. Most

7:42

glaring, their team record. They're

7:44

awful. They've always been awful. It

7:46

has not improved. They do

7:49

have a new coach. They have

7:51

new front office people. It

7:53

looks like the organization is turning

7:55

around from that standpoint. But

7:57

in terms of results, we have

7:59

not seen that yet. I'll

8:02

get to one year in. It's going

8:04

to take time. Rome wasn't building one day. But if we're

8:06

specifically talking Lamello, he has not proven to be a guy

8:08

yet. And again, I mean, me and you both are huge

8:10

Lamella fans. Very, very talented player. I love Washington play the

8:13

way he plays. With that being said, there are

8:15

parts of his game that obviously need work. There

8:17

are things that he needs to do to learn

8:19

how to be a better leader, winner, winner,

8:21

whether it's shot selection, tempo of

8:23

the game, tempo of the game, leadership. There's

8:26

a lot of different things there. I think

8:28

I saw a stat that he averages

8:30

more points rebounds than an assistant, all

8:32

the guy, all the reserves that made

8:34

the All-Star game in the East. That's

8:36

true, but I like what the NBA

8:38

is doing here though. No, no, no.

8:40

It's not about necessarily leaving

8:43

Lamello out too. I mean, the

8:45

rewarding Garland for being a good team.

8:47

We got a, but we got a, but

8:49

we got a hero. Listen, listen, a lot

8:51

of people are happy for Tyler for Tyler

8:54

game. I think. The big thing for them,

8:56

I think the coaches saw all the

8:58

turmoil that's going on in Miami. So

9:00

there's some Terry Rosier stuff out right

9:02

now. I'm going to wait to see

9:04

what develops there. With all the Jimmy

9:06

Beller stuff for Telly Hero to play

9:08

the way he's playing. And Bam not

9:11

having a good year. Telly Hero's keeping

9:13

them above water. That's why the coaches

9:15

reward him, right? Well, that's a huge part

9:17

in it. I mean, let's be clear

9:19

here. Lamello's an an

9:21

all-staral-star caliber player. Devin Booker

9:23

didn't make the all-star game this

9:26

year. I don't think anybody doesn't

9:28

think that Devin Booker's an all-star

9:30

caliber player. I have some thoughts on

9:32

that too. But not everybody can get

9:34

in. All right? And I like what the

9:36

NBA is doing here. And you know what's

9:39

going to happen with the coaches. They're

9:41

going to reward. They're going to. And

9:43

you know what's going to happen with

9:45

the coaches. They're going to reward the

9:47

coaches. They're going to happen. I'm going

9:50

to do in two years. I'm not even

9:52

sure that that is serious and I've never averaged 18

9:54

game my whole career. That's how bad some of these

9:56

teams are in the NBA is totally different now with

9:58

the way defense is played. We got to start putting

10:01

inflation in the NBA is different from the seven

10:03

years ago when I played say I mean I

10:05

obviously I played two years ago, but I'm just

10:07

saying from the prime of my career Completely different

10:09

NBA if I shot like six threes in a

10:11

game It was a big deal sure we were

10:13

war training though for taking the step He took

10:15

this year of being more of a passer and

10:17

bring those young guys Again being more of the

10:20

jack that he was kind of before that calling

10:22

with Jack But he was more of a hardened

10:24

than a Nash and this year. He's gotten closer

10:26

to a pure point Again again, that was my

10:28

snub. I thought Trey young was a sure thing

10:30

all -star But

10:32

listen, I don't mind what the NBA is

10:34

done here when I see the NBA coaching whatever

10:36

you want to call it They were awarding

10:39

winning man. It's that simple There's Garland and the

10:41

Cavs have had a year that no one

10:43

thought they're gonna have everybody thought they were good

10:45

but they have been Phenomenal,

10:47

all right, they've been the best in the NBA

10:49

this year along with okc bar

10:52

none and How is this gonna play out or

10:54

end in the playoffs? I don't I don't know

10:56

I don't know people have a lot of thoughts.

10:58

There's Garland miss two free those in a row

11:00

the other day to see the game There's a

11:02

lot of questions on how these guys are gonna

11:04

perform even though There are top seed right now in

11:06

the east they have not proven to ever do

11:08

that in the postseason It's a lot of questions

11:10

on how this Cleveland team is gonna be able

11:12

to get to the playoffs And are they gonna continue

11:14

this level of play are they gonna continue to

11:16

be a superior team? We don't know yet. We'll

11:18

see But up until this point man, come on

11:20

you got a reward winning for me what I

11:23

think is the reason I'm upset about the Devon

11:25

Booker thing is because What they did in the

11:27

east with Damien Lillard and Jalen Brown, they looked

11:29

and they were like these guys are staples These guys

11:31

are multi all -stars big names and these guys

11:33

end up getting in I think I don't think

11:35

Devon Booker got that same kind of level of

11:37

respect where they he's a shoe -in and I understand

11:39

Jalen Williams had a good year, but we talked

11:41

about Yolkic getting the you know when the Nuggets

11:43

were the one seed a couple years ago Him being

11:45

the only all -star and then when you decide to

11:47

reward it to other guys Milwaukee's

11:51

the fourth seed So,

11:55

you know, you're just saying

11:57

basically just you're rewarding winning regardless.

11:59

That's the way it's going I

12:01

mean, I'm looking at the, I'm looking, we've just said,

12:03

since the Brad Biel averaging 30

12:05

didn't make it, that's just been

12:07

the, it's been the formula. Yeah,

12:10

listen, Phoenix is the nice

12:12

spot, man. Yeah. Nobody had them

12:14

being ninth spot. Come on, bro.

12:16

This is a team pre-season, pre-rankings

12:18

and all this stuff like power

12:21

ranking, like, Phoenix was a top

12:23

five team in the West. If

12:25

Phoenix was fourth in the West

12:27

right in the West right now, You

12:29

said 26, 7 and 4. So what's,

12:32

what are Damien and Lilla's numbers? Oh

12:34

listen, these are good numbers. All I'm

12:36

saying is, I just, as a hooper

12:38

with, you know, the, uh, basketball lover

12:40

with the nostalgia of the game,

12:42

you want to look back 20

12:44

years from now? I guess you do

12:47

want to see those big names, do

12:49

you know? We talked about, you know,

12:51

the, uh, basketball lover with the nostalgia

12:53

of the game. You want to look

12:55

back 20 years from. Jeff Teague,

12:57

those guys won with the Hawks because

13:00

they had the best record in the

13:02

East, so they were rewarded winning. It's

13:04

just how it works. But do you

13:07

think that the coaches sometimes, are they

13:09

excited to reward a guy like Jaylon

13:11

Williams to have his first all-star game

13:14

versus... I think that plays a part

13:16

in it too. I think when you

13:18

have a young team that's gone back-to-back

13:20

years having the best record

13:22

in the West, they've dominated

13:24

by the way. Every other big

13:26

team has gotten two win. Jaylyn

13:28

Williams had to get in. They gave

13:31

Cleveland three. All right, Boston got two.

13:33

It's every really good team. New York

13:35

two. New York two. All the good

13:37

teams get two. Bucks got two. The

13:39

team that's number one in the west.

13:41

The team that's get two. Bucks got

13:43

two. The team that's number one in

13:46

the west. Two. The team that's number

13:48

one in the west. Two. The team

13:50

that's get two. Bucks got two. The

13:52

team that's all. That's number is. That

13:54

way won. He made it because he was a forespot.

13:56

How about John Moran? Just not, I mean, I understand

13:58

the cruises are really good though. at anybody, oh

14:00

they got Jared Jackson Jr. but it's

14:02

just interesting, John Moran, I'm not saying

14:05

he had this incredible year, but to

14:07

see him not in, also like you

14:09

know the peak of his powers. Yeah,

14:11

I mean, John Moran's team has been

14:13

very very good and you can argue

14:15

that should have maybe warranted them too,

14:17

but his play just hasn't been to

14:20

the top of his tier. How about

14:22

your guy, Kyrie Irving? I love Ky,

14:24

but again, you know, they're an ace

14:26

spot holding on, they're right in front

14:28

of Phoenix. A lot of injuries though.

14:30

Yeah, a lot of injuries. He's been

14:32

in kind of the steady guy out

14:35

there. First, he's only, he's been the

14:37

only steady guy on the team. So

14:39

that's another one. Again, everyone's not gonna

14:41

get in. So we can make a

14:43

case for every single player of why

14:45

they could have been in. I'm into

14:47

the reasons why they could have been

14:50

in. I'm into the reasons why they

14:52

could have been in. I'm into the

14:54

list from the history of time of

14:56

players that have been snubbed and have

14:58

been snubbed and should have been snubbed

15:00

and should have been snubbed and should

15:02

have been all- A guy like Devin

15:05

or all these guys who were like,

15:07

you know, you know, in the 90s

15:09

their staples made it for sure, but

15:11

you also like I already gave you

15:13

a point in case of guys who

15:15

made it to that were like, why

15:17

did that guy make it? But they

15:20

probably had a team that was doing

15:22

good this year or whatever, conference. It's

15:24

how it goes. They're rewarding winning. It's

15:26

clear. The Cleveland Cavaliers got three all-stars

15:28

in the all-star game. I'm going to

15:30

say that again. Because no one want

15:32

to believe me if we had like

15:35

a time travel thing and I came

15:37

here today and said this, I wouldn't

15:39

believe myself. You know what I mean?

15:41

Three all-stars for the Cavs. Darius Garland

15:43

made the all-star game over Lamello and

15:45

Trey Young. Definitely wouldn't have called that.

15:47

phenomenal and we won't talk about injuries.

15:50

Especially making it last year, Tyries, and

15:52

then you would just think his trajectory

15:54

would get going up. Oh, going up.

15:56

Yeah. But there is going the same

15:58

thing. He made one before with the.

16:00

I like that they're rewarding winning. Okay,

16:02

no offense. I love Lamello Ball. He

16:05

shouldn't be in the All-Star. He's not,

16:07

let's put some respect on Dares

16:09

Garland's name. Yeah. I'm only saying that

16:11

due to the fact that Cleveland got three.

16:13

They got more than even Boston. Yeah. All

16:16

right, so like, but they got the best

16:18

record in the, in the, in the wet, in

16:20

the league. But if not, the, the East, so

16:22

they've locked, so they've locked.

16:24

Their team is just... But what about

16:26

what the All-Star game speaks for? It's

16:29

supposed to be entertaining for fans and

16:31

no one's more entertaining than LaMella. Fuck

16:33

all that. I don't like any of that

16:35

stuff anyway. Period. I'm just gonna

16:37

be honest with you. Because I've seen too

16:39

much time after time of nonsense in

16:41

there. Austin Reeves is almost an all-star

16:44

last year from the voting. I'm done

16:46

with that. Petruio almost made

16:48

it with the Warriors a couple

16:50

years due to voting. It's all

16:53

BS. I don't... Shout to my

16:55

guy's eyes on Petruio. You know

16:57

what I'm saying? I don't, I

16:59

don't, Van, the voting thing is,

17:01

Crusoe was top in the voting

17:04

one year. I'm done with that.

17:06

Crusoe was top in the voting

17:08

one year. I'm done with that.

17:10

Crusoe. I'm top in the voting

17:13

thing has, Crusoe. I'm not to

17:15

say a little segue. and why

17:17

I'm glad he made the all-star

17:19

game. For one, he's averaging

17:22

career numbers, 24, 5, and 5,

17:24

shooting high 40s, damn near 50%,

17:26

he's shooting like 47%, 48% in

17:28

field goal, and he's shooting about

17:30

40 for 3. All right, this

17:32

guy is about as tactical and

17:35

efficient as a score as it

17:37

gets. He has played through

17:39

straight bullshit, all right? It has

17:41

been one thing after the other.

17:43

Jimmy Butler's circus shit.

17:45

It's fun for us, because we're

17:47

in the media and we get to,

17:49

you know, talk about this stuff now.

17:51

As a former player, that stuff

17:53

is exhausting. And I'm not

17:56

here to dispel whether Miami's doing

17:58

it right or Jim. Jimmy's doing

18:00

it right? All I can tell you is, there's been

18:02

jackass on both sides. Period. All right? Miami's

18:04

not playing that shit they never have. Jimmy's

18:06

been acting crazy. The subliminal, this is, this, the

18:08

comments, the walking out of practice. It's like, it's like,

18:11

the comments, the walking out of practice. It's like, it's

18:13

enough. So walking out of practice, it's like, it's like,

18:15

so walking out of practice, it's like, so walking

18:17

out walking out of practice, walking out of practice,

18:19

it's like, it's like, walking out of practice, it's like,

18:21

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

18:24

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

18:26

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

18:28

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

18:30

I'm, It's exhausting, just especially when a player is walking

18:33

out of a practice because it was announced that

18:35

he ain't starting. Why isn't he starting?

18:37

We can go into those reasons, okay? The

18:39

fact that Tyler Hero's been able to

18:41

keep this team afloat. They're fighting for a

18:43

playoff spot. They're in the playoffs. And that's with BAM

18:45

having just a weird down here after being Olympics and

18:47

just being always really good. He's one of those. We

18:49

talked about Palo and Fron. We got to stop putting

18:51

this like Olympic card on everybody. Like, bro, some of

18:53

those guys get Olympic cards and is. Like, bro, some

18:55

of those guys get Olympic cards and is great. Some

18:57

of those, like Olympic card on everybody. Like, some of those

18:59

guys get Olympic cards and Olympic. It shows. Like, like, like,

19:02

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

19:04

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

19:06

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

19:08

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

19:10

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, Being a gold medalist and

19:12

having like when step where's that medal and when LeBron wears a medal versus

19:15

when ban wears a medal I don't go fuck what what you say I

19:17

don't know but if But we do this thing we're like you do this

19:19

thing all the time. You're like you got a gold medal. What the fuck

19:21

is having a normal? It's having a normal was having a normal It's having

19:23

a normal is having a normal. Like you got a gold medal. What is

19:25

having a normal year is having a normal? It's having a normal having a

19:28

normal was having a normal. It's having a normal. It's having a normal. It's

19:30

having a normal was having a normal. It's having a normal was having a

19:32

normal having a normal having a normal. It's having a normal with having

19:34

a normal. It's having a normal. It's having a normal having a

19:36

normal having a normal with having a normal. It's having a normal.

19:38

It's having a normal having a normal having a normal. It's having

19:40

a normal having a normal having a normal having

19:42

I'm taking Apollo over Jaylon Brown. And I like

19:45

Jaylon Brown, he ain't better than Apollo. If

19:47

you don't believe me, just watch. Just watch

19:49

Apollo game. I know that's a hot take

19:51

because Jaylon Brown's like, oh, you know what?

19:53

So funny, I'm so glad you brought this

19:55

up because I think Jaylon Brown can hoop.

19:57

Jaylon Brown's a certified Hooper, we all

19:59

know that. How much of a society, what type

20:01

of society do I want to call it?

20:03

Fucking bandwagon ass, just everyone hops on the

20:05

hate train, how comedy is it that everyone

20:07

thought Jaylyn Brown is better than Tatum? Like

20:09

people legitimately, you got like pros, who was

20:12

the NBA player last year, it was like

20:14

Jaylyn Brown is the best player of the

20:16

team? There's like two or three nut cases.

20:18

Well the fact that they won with all

20:20

that drama that are trying to pin each

20:22

other against. There are players last year. On

20:24

the record, Jaylon Brown's your best player. Syke,

20:26

you're wrong. Not the case. Jaylon Brown's a

20:28

very good basketball player. He has never been

20:30

a better basketball player than Jason Tatum. It's

20:32

been complete nonsense. And then it became this

20:34

thing where people just wanted to jump on

20:36

that train. Jaylon Brown's the best player. Well,

20:38

you know, Jaylon Brown's a really good basketball

20:40

player, guys. He is the Robin. to that

20:42

Batman situation. And there's no other way to

20:44

look at it, period. And to get back

20:46

to what you're saying about Apollo and some

20:49

of these other guys, just of course if

20:51

they were healthy, they would absolutely be in

20:53

there, as well as Franz. Put some respect

20:55

on Franz's name. Both of those guys are

20:57

all-stars. But listen, they're a rewarding winning. Tala

20:59

Hero's had a career year in a complete

21:01

circus. Terry Rosier just added to that. Another

21:03

player is investigated for fucking possibly throwing games,

21:05

man. Like this shit is Miami's got a

21:07

catastrophe over there. And it's not just Jimmy.

21:09

Because it's Jimmy so much, now the front

21:11

office has to react. Now he's got front

21:13

office shit. Because now it's like the Pat

21:15

Riley and Jimmy. But it's both sides now.

21:17

Because the front office has to react. They're

21:19

not blaming the front office. They have to

21:21

do something. Jimmy's acting away. They've got to

21:24

lay down the hammer. We all know how

21:26

Miami works. Tell how to play between all

21:28

of this. And he has a play between

21:30

all of play between all of this. And

21:32

he has a team of this. And he

21:34

has a team of play between all of

21:36

this. And he has a team of play

21:38

between all of this. And he has a

21:40

team of play between all of this. And

21:42

he has. And he has. And he has

21:44

a team of play between. And he has.

21:46

And he has a team of play between.

21:48

And he has a team of. And he

21:50

has a team of. And he has. And

21:52

he has a team of He deserves me

21:54

an all-star. You know why two? People shaded

21:56

on Tyler Hero for a long time. He's

21:58

in every trade room for them. for a

22:01

long time, every year he's in the trade

22:03

rumors. My and myself, I myself included, on

22:05

this own very pod, compared him, who's

22:07

better, him or Austin Reeves, who's better

22:09

him or Jordan Poole? You wouldn't even

22:11

question that right now. We all did. We all

22:14

played his talent a couple years ago

22:16

when he compared himself to guys like

22:18

train. He's like, man, I wanna be in

22:20

that cloth. I wanna be an all-star. We're all

22:22

like, we're all like, you're all like, you're not

22:24

that. You're not that type of

22:27

player man, you're catching shoot, da da

22:29

da da da. Tyler Herr hurt all

22:31

of this. And said, okay. And you

22:33

know what he's done? Every year he

22:35

just gets better. He's got better

22:37

and better every year, bro. That's why

22:40

I'm happy to see Tyler Hero, though.

22:42

That's why they showed his reaction

22:44

on TNT. Because people are happy

22:46

for Tyler. He's been playing in

22:49

a circus, playing well. This guy

22:51

don't do nothing, no. People call

22:53

him overrated for the past four or

22:55

five years. He don't react, he don't

22:57

say nothing, he don't go to his

23:00

Instagram and make video. Stood just stays

23:02

out the way, works on his craft, does

23:04

it under the Miami Heat microscope,

23:06

which isn't an easy place to play,

23:08

all right? And he has only gotten better.

23:10

His play has done the talking. I

23:13

really like that. I'm very happy that Tyler

23:15

Hero made his first all-star game. I think it's well-deserved.

23:17

He came in different this year too. I was posting

23:19

some off-season workouts. He like buzzed his head. He came

23:21

in with like a different mindset. He looks focused. He

23:24

looks sharp. He's fine-tuned his skills. His off-the-dribble ability has

23:26

only just... every year taking a jump. He went from

23:28

being a heavy just catch and shoot guy running off

23:30

pin downs to being a guy that has a complete

23:32

back, complete back, can create for others, can create for

23:35

others, go left, go right, stop, pull up, make a

23:37

range, pull up, make a range, three ball, finish at

23:39

the ball, finish at the ball, finish at the ball,

23:41

finish at the ball, finish at the three ball, finish

23:43

at the ball, finish at the basket, finish at the ball,

23:46

finish, three ball, finish, three ball, finish, three ball, finish, finish,

23:48

finish, finish, three ball, finish, finish, three ball, finish,

23:50

finish, finish, finish, three ball, finish, finish, three ball, finish,

23:52

finish, three ball, finish, finish, finish, three ball, finish, finish,

23:54

three ball, finish, three ball, finish, finish, finish, three ball,

23:56

three ball, finish, three ball, finish, finish, three ball, three

23:58

ball, finish, three ball, three ball, also in-bead. In-bead usually

24:00

takes one of those spots. That would have brought

24:03

Carlin thinking towns down. He would have been a

24:05

reserve. You know what I mean? So, you know,

24:07

Carls. Carls. Just say, if in-bead has one of

24:09

those in-bead years, it would have been tricky to

24:11

all I'm saying. And that's why it wasn't as

24:13

deep this year, the Eastern Conference Reserves, with the

24:15

forward center spot. Correct. I guess I just broke

24:17

my own rule because whenever I could play about snubs.

24:19

I don't want to hear about snubs unless you tell

24:22

me who they should replace. And I did want Devon Booker

24:24

in there, but I don't really know who, whoever, but that's

24:26

the trick you think. Give me a result. Give me a,

24:28

give me, give me a, yeah. Otherwise, I'm just complaining, right?

24:30

Otherwise, you're just saying stuff that's like, yeah, we got a

24:32

whole bunch of names I should have made it. Yeah. Who

24:35

shouldn't have been? Give me an answer then. If you're

24:37

going to complain about something, I need a fix.

24:39

I need to give me a result of what

24:41

you think should have happened. Shangoon over some bonus

24:43

is strictly off the rockets having a good year

24:45

and then getting an all-star. 100%! And then guess

24:48

what? He should be in the all-star game. Look

24:50

at the fucking rockets right now. He's the best

24:52

player for the rockets. He's at the most talented

24:54

player for the rockets. We know who that is.

24:56

Thompson. That's the segue. I wanted

24:58

to I've been wanting to talk about

25:01

him all week. You thought I was

25:03

gonna go jail. Really? So what happened?

25:05

What happened is David Thompson had that

25:07

crazy game right after our last pod.

25:10

I've been waiting. They had 30 something

25:12

against the Celtics on the road game

25:14

winner. The whole thing was national. Yeah. Yeah.

25:16

Yeah. They played well last night so even

25:18

though they lost to the Grizzlies.

25:20

He's a super town. We've been getting

25:23

like sound bites from players all

25:25

year. body like this guy, he's a

25:27

freak athlete, you know, him and his

25:29

brother are just, these guys are just

25:32

jumping all over the place, but

25:34

the one in Houston, I mean, yeah,

25:36

Amund Thompson, I get, I get, I

25:38

get, Amund, and who's the other, I

25:41

mean, a sore, a sore, Amund Thompson

25:43

is showing growth in his offensive

25:45

ability, yeah, to where you now,

25:47

you already knew the athletic side

25:49

was there, so now you're getting

25:52

that, and people are like, whoa, whoa,

25:54

whoa, whoa, So he's probably the

25:56

most untouchable in the rockets

25:58

Definitely he has Superstar potential because

26:00

of his athletic ability. He's a great

26:02

young man, met him in his brother,

26:05

complete, and I've only heard good things

26:07

about them. Mind you, they were skewed

26:09

coming in because they came in from

26:11

the overtime league. And I had nothing

26:13

against overtime, but like, you know how

26:15

that stuff can go. Some of the

26:17

league is, especially at that time, it's

26:19

grown, overtime's grown a lot. But it's

26:21

not the traditional college, this, you know,

26:23

we just didn't know what to expect.

26:25

100% so you know we are where

26:27

we are regardless of which his talent

26:29

is showing it's exploding his next step

26:31

is his jump shot not just catch

26:33

and shoot but off the dribble we'll

26:35

get it off the dribble later let's

26:38

get the catch and shoot first you

26:40

got to be able to shoot before

26:42

you can shoot off the dribble so

26:44

That's his next step and they're already

26:46

letting him do it you're seeing it

26:48

in his game they feel comfortable with

26:50

him letting the three fly you're watching

26:52

clips games where like he has a

26:54

three is no hesitation doesn't matter if

26:56

he's missed the previous four and you'll

26:58

you can even see the coach on

27:00

the sideline yelling at him to shoot

27:02

you'll have you can see it on

27:04

his you'll have like a reaction. It's

27:06

the difference between Janice and Ben Simmons

27:08

one was willing to Shoot those shots,

27:11

you know, they're going to miss. Yeah,

27:13

you got to be able to make

27:15

a couple. It keeps the defense on

27:17

us. And now Janus has actually got

27:19

a respectable mid-range. I wouldn't call it

27:21

a great one, but like can't just

27:23

leave this guy open, you know, knock

27:25

it down. So, you know, that's the

27:27

next step. And you have to be

27:29

willing to miss, to learn, to be

27:31

getting better and better, and obviously the

27:33

game versus Boston. You just see the

27:35

plays Float just a big-time play you're

27:37

all float to skill so we have

27:39

the rockets have had a tough time

27:41

closing games because they don't have like

27:44

that go-to got it closed you know

27:46

I mean like everyone says they would

27:48

be good with like a deer and

27:50

fox at the roses someone to close

27:52

games for them they're a young group

27:54

yeah I'm doing that Thompson's not that

27:56

yeah but he was able to do

27:58

that that 90 was so we already

28:00

knew he was a freak athlete people

28:02

compared with like a John Moran type

28:04

of athlete but he's six seven the

28:06

way he's also able to now kind

28:08

of stop on a dime like that

28:10

in the controls body yeah change of

28:12

pace he's that's that's that's that's different

28:14

I mean he's woken the whole NBA

28:17

him and his brother but especially ah

28:19

men I mean he's been in Houston now what

28:21

to second year yeah So, you know, we're talking about

28:23

two years in. This guy's a really young player,

28:25

37 in Boston, game winner. These are things that

28:27

make, you know, your ears perk up when you're

28:29

a front office guy, that, you know, rubbing your

28:31

hands, like, man, do we pick the right guy?

28:33

Houston's done a fantastic job. Houston's done a fantastic

28:35

job, a fantastic job, man, do we pick the

28:37

right guy? Houston's done a fantastic job, man, do

28:39

we pick the right guy? Do we picked the right guy, that, man,

28:41

do, do, do, do, do, do we pick the right, that, do, do,

28:43

did, did, did, did, do we pick the right. Man, D' do we

28:45

pick the right, D' do, D' do, D' do, D' do, D' do, D'

28:48

do, D' do, D' do, D' I, D' do, D' I, D' I, D'

28:50

I, D' I It's a shorter term than to show us more, but you're still

28:52

making a 100 million. We're not just throwing you max, man. Because no offense, you

28:54

haven't shown to be max. But we're paying you a substantial amount of money because

28:56

you're a damn good player. And there's still some growth to be had there. It's

28:58

a perfect, perfect point. Right. And I think if you're Houston, you're looking at Raymond

29:00

Thompson. Now this is, like you said, they have a guy. They have a guy. Like, like, that's

29:02

his defense. His defense. His defense. We've even talked about his defense.

29:04

We've even talked about his defense. We've even talked about his defense.

29:07

We've even talked about his defense. We've even talked

29:09

about his defense. We've even talked about his defense.

29:11

We've been here talked about his defense. We've been

29:13

here talked about his defense. We've talked about his

29:15

defense. We've talked about his defense. We've talked about

29:17

his defense. We've talked about his defense. We permanent

29:19

defender now. He's up there. So you have that

29:21

with his physical ability being six, seven long. And

29:23

now also having the athlete. I mean, they put

29:25

in perspective, it'd be like dice and Daniels out

29:27

here having like 30 point games and game winners.

29:29

You'd be like, holy shit, this guy's defense

29:32

is already topped here. Now his offense is

29:34

coming. This guy's offense is coming. His offense

29:36

is coming. This guy's offense is coming. And

29:38

that's even Thompson looks like he's, and he's

29:40

so young already. No, he's going to be

29:42

a very valued high commodity in the NBA

29:44

for a long, long, long, long time to

29:46

come. Long time to come, long time to

29:48

come. Dear and Fox, that's the other news that

29:51

broke. Looks like he's kind of forcing his

29:53

way to San Antonio. He's doing the traditional thing

29:55

where I'm not going to sign a, I'm not

29:57

going to do an extension, unless it's with the

29:59

team. that I want to go to, and it

30:02

sounds like it's going to be San Antonio.

30:04

My reaction initially was, if you're San Antonio,

30:06

are you like, are you like, are you like,

30:08

like, are you 100% sold on the Air

30:10

and Fox, because we always talk about it's

30:12

really important to watching you pair with your

30:14

young LeBron, your young stud, right? Who's going

30:17

to be the Robin to their Batman? Who's

30:19

going to be that sidekick has frons? You

30:21

know, that's worked out really well. What do you

30:23

think about Darren Fox is pairing with Wembley? Obviously different ages like

30:25

27. Yeah, but he's still relatively young. You know what I mean?

30:27

Like, Darren Fox still has five, six years left of really high

30:29

level basketball. And I'd put three or four of like top of

30:31

like top of the top of the top of the top of the

30:33

top of the top of the top of the top of the top of the top

30:35

of the top. I don't want to doubt his talent. I'd put three or four of like

30:37

three or four of like top of like top of like top of like top of the

30:40

top of the top of the top of the top of the top of the top

30:42

of the top of the top of the top of the top of the top of the

30:44

top of the top of the top of the top of the top of the top of

30:46

the top of the top of the top of the top of the top of the top

30:48

of the top of the top of the top of the top of the top of the

30:50

top of the top of the top of the top of the He has to slow

30:52

the game down, he gets in transition, or not

30:54

in transition, he gets from a set offense and

30:56

has to hit like these tough threes and he's

30:59

able to because of how talented he is. But

31:01

if I get Wimby on the glass running the

31:03

floor with a De Aaron Fox, that sounds pretty

31:05

good to me. By the way, they need a point

31:07

guard. I like Chris Paul. Chris Paul's fantastic, but

31:09

obviously Chris Paul's damn near 40 years old.

31:11

So just for the future sake of things.

31:13

And for the fact that like we always

31:15

pointed out like we always pointed out. Their

31:17

train has already left the station.

31:20

Wendy's a lot better than, listen,

31:22

I don't want to say that

31:24

we all thought he was going

31:26

to be, because we all thought

31:28

he's going to be the next

31:30

greatest thing in the world.

31:32

He's proving to kind of be

31:34

that. He's very good already. In

31:36

the second year, he's an all-star.

31:38

He's like, hey man, we need to

31:41

go now. This is me, we've got to win a championship

31:43

now, but we got to start putting pieces in right

31:45

now. This is in a rebuild that takes five, six

31:47

years and we're wasting winbies years. Like, let's get

31:49

some players in, man. That's why they brought, we talked

31:51

about it. They brought in Chris, Paul, Harrison, Barnes,

31:53

good vets. Who can still play? Now, let's bring us

31:56

some young talent, man. We don't really have anything outside

31:58

of women yama, but they got one. One young

32:00

talented player over there, that's

32:03

very good. Everyone else is subpar

32:05

basketball players as a young. I'm

32:07

just being honest. I like a

32:09

guy like so Hanner, Codden, Johnson

32:11

to be around Wembley. As long

32:13

as, like you said, they need

32:15

another big name with Wendy. I

32:17

like those guys as pieces of the

32:20

role players. Calvin Johnson is a

32:22

good role player. So Han is a

32:24

solid role player. These aren't, they

32:26

don't have a Jay. They now need to

32:28

find their jailer. It doesn't have

32:30

to be a jailer, Williams, but

32:33

I'm saying their second or third

32:35

best player. Who's going to

32:37

be the second star next to

32:39

Wimby? Who's the next young

32:41

talent that's next to Wimby

32:43

that's next to Wimby that's

32:46

next to Wimby that people

32:48

like, this guy's exciting. Wow. The

32:50

Air Fox is from Houston. He's a

32:52

very capable shooter though. Yeah, I always

32:55

thought it would have been like, maybe

32:57

Tyre's Maxie somehow, if you got around,

32:59

I feel like it would be like

33:01

a really good match with him. He's

33:03

not going anywhere. If the Aaron Fox

33:05

goes to San Antonio this year somehow

33:08

at the deadline, how does that make

33:10

you look at San Antonio's playoff

33:12

chances and would they be dangerous?

33:14

I think they'd be dangerous. Again,

33:16

with just their lack of experience

33:18

and other things in depth, I don't

33:20

know how good that team would be in

33:22

the playoffs. concerning, which we wish them our

33:24

best, but we don't know what that looks

33:27

like. So, there's a lot of questions over

33:29

there. I don't know. They'd be better with the

33:31

year in Fox, obviously. The air in Fox is

33:33

a really good point. You had the air in

33:35

Fox, anything, they're going to be better, let the

33:37

first team that's a needing of a point of

33:39

guard like that. So, they would definitely be better.

33:41

I don't. how dangerous they would be. I don't

33:43

know. They'd go to the playoffs and maybe cause

33:46

some trouble. But I don't think they're winning it.

33:48

And if you're Sacramento, you're not looking for a

33:50

star back. I think you're kind of just blowing

33:52

it up, right? Throw that bomb in there. Yeah.

33:54

But man, for a franchise, I was waiting so

33:56

long to be good. They were finally good. To

33:58

rebuild it after the 17-year drought. Well, especially

34:00

after you... So bonus and the

34:02

erosion just don't... Without Fox, it

34:05

just doesn't make sense. Let's

34:07

be honest. Three years ago, we

34:09

didn't call this. Three years ago, man,

34:11

we're thinking this is one of the

34:13

newer, you know, young competing teams. Mike

34:16

Brown's, head coach of the ear, they

34:18

had one of the better... Third seed,

34:20

second seed, and that was a very

34:22

talented West. Remember, the scales have, have

34:25

tipped, the Eastern Conference, was

34:27

running... The NBA and basketball. So being

34:29

like a third seed in the West was

34:31

like a one seed in the East. It

34:33

was a big deal when Sack got third

34:35

seed. And then they lost to a six

34:37

seed Warriors. All right? I think they was

34:39

three six. Yeah, I might be wrong. Three

34:42

six. Three six. Yeah. And then ever since

34:44

then they haven't recovered. Step had

34:46

50 in a closeout game. And ever

34:48

since then it's just, it's been downhill.

34:50

Yeah. And then they brought into Rosen.

34:52

Love, Love Depot. Baller, Hooper,

34:55

bucket getter, he don't fit that

34:57

team at all. Not one little

34:59

bit. No one thought it would

35:01

and accept the person who brought

35:03

him in. I don't know who runs

35:05

the show in SAC. I don't know

35:07

who's doing that. Why you thought

35:09

DeMar DeRosa would come there

35:11

and work? He is a lot of

35:14

things, but he is not a three

35:16

point shooter. And that is the

35:18

bulk of your team. Your identity is

35:20

running gun, three point shots, and

35:22

two man. In that mix, makes zero fucking

35:24

sense. It makes no sense at all. Why you,

35:27

I think they were just hoping, hey listen, you

35:29

add more talent, the lower prices, right? Now

35:31

it works, it's an NBA2K, bro, you just don't

35:33

throw like a guy on a team and you

35:35

just go score in them, right? There is something

35:37

called playing style. There are certain players that play

35:39

better with another player. By the way, before we

35:41

get off of this pot of this pot, I don't, we

35:44

can't not mention James

35:46

hard making this all-making

35:48

this all- this all-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a

35:51

Yeah, I know, it's tricky. It's actually bitter sweet because we're

35:53

really excited for him, but everyone wanted also to

35:55

see Norman Powell. You knew that we're going to

35:58

get too. Yeah, normal Powell's had a great year.

36:00

But James Hart is the best friend

36:02

of that team by far. James Hart,

36:04

actually Norman Powell's had a fantastic year,

36:06

so let me just go ahead and

36:08

put that up. Another year, see what

36:10

if he could have been. The record

36:12

was better though. If they had a

36:15

better record, Norman Powell would have got

36:17

in. But James has been fantastic. We

36:19

talk about longevity all the time, and

36:21

every time we do, we talk about Kevin,

36:24

Stephanie, LeBron, James. Those are the

36:26

three names that come to them on. James

36:28

Hart is in year 16. Highlight real

36:30

of just this year really like

36:32

yesterday. It's still just doing

36:34

it. He's just right I really I'm

36:36

last year for when he said I'm

36:39

the system and everyone laughed and now

36:41

a year or so later He's the

36:43

best player on the clippers. It will

36:45

quiet plays. Yes, quies fantastic

36:48

with James is still the

36:50

system and runs through James

36:52

and their team has been

36:54

competitive. He's been the best player

36:56

of the team He's been phenomenal.

36:58

He's closed out games well. I don't

37:00

want to hear no Jay James Harden hate

37:02

right now because he has proven a lot

37:05

of people wrong over the past couple of

37:07

years. He's taking a step back. He's, he's,

37:09

you know. Hasn't said anything? No problems?

37:11

No drama? He's just played basketball and

37:14

he's played well. The one thing that

37:16

always gets swept under the rug with

37:18

James is he plays damn near every

37:20

fucking game, bro. That dude don't sit

37:22

out for shit. We live in an

37:25

era with these superstars. I watched the

37:27

stat yesterday. Jolin Bede missed

37:29

his 400th game yesterday. He's played

37:31

436. Just played 36 more games than he

37:33

hasn't played. Again, some of that's due to

37:36

his control. Some of the first couple years,

37:38

I think they were trying to lose game.

37:40

That's fair. That's, I'll take those games out

37:42

there. The past couple years, it's been a

37:44

shit show. It's been a fucking joke. All right,

37:47

don't even get me started on that. So

37:49

I'm doing a handstand the other day

37:51

and a shoot around, didn't play the game. Did

37:53

a fucking handstand. I got to see that.

37:55

Look it up. Look it up. Yeah. What's

38:01

the best time a day to get

38:03

a deal? All day. With Jack in

38:05

the Box's all day big deal meal,

38:08

you get to choose from four entrees

38:10

like the Supreme Crescent and five tasty

38:12

sides. Plus a drink, starting at $5.

38:14

So hurry in or take your time.

38:17

You've got all day. At Jack, every

38:19

bite of big deal. Yeah. So I

38:21

mean, that's that pretty much wraps

38:23

up. I don't want to get

38:25

it too deep into it, but yeah,

38:27

James Harden been fantastic. And he's done

38:30

it with a lot of doubt headed

38:32

his way, especially towards the tail end

38:34

of his career. People have even doubted

38:36

how much to pay him and how

38:38

much to extend him and say, bro, we keep

38:40

trying to like push people out of the

38:42

league and like count someone's clock down, but

38:44

they still perform in a high level. You know,

38:47

and also we all, including myself, probably made

38:49

the way he forces his way out

38:51

of Philly, Collingdale, Memorial, and stuff, he

38:53

did take a pay cut and then

38:55

didn't get the max that he was supposed

38:57

to get. I understand why. And then he's

38:59

only proven to be a max player since.

39:02

So it's just like, considering where Philly's

39:04

headed since, looks like James is right in a

39:06

lot of that scenario. I'm not saying he

39:08

handled everything the right way, maybe calling him

39:10

a liar publicly, maybe he said that, but I guess

39:12

at that point he's that you know, publicly you're not

39:14

paying me, so I'm just going to go ahead and

39:17

say my piece. You could take that for whatever it's

39:19

worth. Philly is. Well, you know what, you just reminded

39:21

me of something. You said James Hardin plays, right? And

39:23

then you get named, the guy, like, Joel and B,

39:25

that hasn't. Maybe I'll circle back on the Jaylon Brown

39:28

all-star thing. He, they play. Him and Jay and Jason,

39:30

oh, wait, if you watch the song of these games,

39:32

the last 10 years, they play. The last 10 years,

39:34

they play. The last 10 years, they play. The last

39:36

10 years, they play. The last 10 years, the last

39:39

10 years, they play, the last 10 years, the last

39:41

10 years, the last 10 years, the last 10 years,

39:43

the next year, the next year, 10 years, 10

39:45

years, the next year, the next year, the next

39:47

year, the next year, the next year, the next

39:49

year. entertaining to say

39:51

the least. Zion Williams. Williamson.

39:54

Zion Williamson comes

39:56

out and says, because a

39:59

reporter asks. Why aren't

40:01

you playing back-to-backs? He said,

40:03

I can, yes, physically I

40:05

can, but I work for

40:07

the pelicans. And they've shown

40:09

me the numbers and

40:11

they believe I shouldn't

40:13

be playing. Come on, man, let's,

40:16

I'm just gonna be, let me

40:18

just be real for a second.

40:20

First off, we love Zion here.

40:22

This isn't a, whether Zion Williamson

40:26

can play basketball podcast. We're not, we're

40:28

not, He has an impact, he's dominant.

40:30

In fact, when he's fully healthy at

40:32

his best self, he is like an

40:34

MVP caliber type player. We've seen it

40:36

in stretches. Now, just a couple games.

40:38

This guy's had Western Conference players of

40:41

the month. We've had stretches where this

40:43

guy's dominated the NBA. I've seen him

40:45

personally, in such a fashion, that's just

40:47

like, just a physically dominant way. I've

40:49

seen games where I've seen him just

40:51

overpower power teams. Different type of player

40:53

than Janus, but that same type of thing

40:55

where like you leave the game like, like,

40:58

like, like, bro. That guy is just... He

41:00

makes other crazy athletes look not athletic. Like

41:02

Janus makes athletic people not look athletic. I

41:04

don't think people understand that 11th guy

41:06

on that NBA team that you don't

41:08

know his name can do like a

41:11

360 windmill. I know you don't think he

41:13

can. He probably can. Even like that

41:15

little white boy you could just shoot,

41:17

you don't think can jump? He'll probably

41:19

punch on you. He doesn't do it

41:21

in the NBA because he plays against

41:23

other freakish athletes. But if he plays

41:26

against other freakish athletes. So

41:28

Janus makes the same way Zion

41:30

does, makes athletic people look

41:32

unathletic. He's a great player.

41:35

Now that we've got that out the

41:37

way. What is the knock on you,

41:39

Zion? Your availability. All right? I'm

41:41

not here to discuss his

41:43

dieting and his training and

41:45

off the court. I don't, listen,

41:48

whatever. We can do that a

41:50

different time. It all plays a

41:52

factor. You've got to play on

41:54

the floor, brother. You've got to

41:56

get playing. I don't care for them

41:59

about what numbers. they're telling you.

42:01

Ain't nobody in charge of you. Especially

42:03

from a New Orleans franchise. But their

42:05

side of things is they're protecting their

42:07

investment that are more picked than

42:09

they're paying a lot of money.

42:12

They're protecting them. They're protecting them.

42:14

They're protecting them. If they

42:16

keep playing them, he's going to get hurt

42:18

again. They have to, they have to, they

42:20

have to, they have to, just don't play

42:22

them? I mean, I'm sure there's a plan

42:24

in place. for people who are in tune

42:26

and watching all their pieces if they if

42:29

they did a fire sale right now wanted

42:31

to trade all their players you'd be like

42:33

Brennan Ingram here Herb Jones here to be

42:35

a lot of good players they're not going

42:37

to give her to Trey Murphy but they

42:39

have a bunch of really good priorities

42:41

and I'm saying Trey Murphy's a

42:43

value Eve's messy might get rookie the

42:46

year that's I'm saying they have plenty

42:48

of assets they should be competing

42:50

you've set out enough talking about

42:52

protecting their asset They just try

42:54

to trade his assets as on the trade

42:57

room was all year long. What asset? They

42:59

don't they don't value that high That's my

43:01

problem. They giving you numbers, bro, but

43:03

they also shopping your name around at some

43:06

point you're the highest paid person in

43:08

that payroll there The only guy who

43:10

makes more money than you a

43:12

part of the pelican's organization is

43:14

a fucking owner No one else makes more

43:16

you you're saying he should demand to

43:18

play more I'm playing tonight. And ain't

43:20

nobody telling me I'm not playing I

43:22

get held out I'm telling you, the prestige of New Orleans,

43:24

and ain't nobody over there got that to where you could be

43:27

telling Zaya and you're not playing. Who? Satan, the Miami Heat

43:29

and Pat Riley, you're shutting you, shutting you, Pat Riley, you're

43:31

shutting you down, who, you're shutting you, and Pat Riley,

43:33

you're shutting you down, who, you're shutting you, and Pat Riley,

43:35

you're shutting you down, what the fuck? Man, you out of your

43:37

mind? He, he, he, and Pat Riley, you're shutting you, and Pat

43:39

Riley, shutting you, shutting you, shutting you, shutting you, shutting you,

43:41

shutting you, just, and Pat, shutting you, and Pat, shutting you,

43:43

shutting you, just, just, just, and Pat, just, just, and Pat,

43:45

and Pat, and Pat, just, just, just, just, just, just, just,

43:48

and Pat, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just,

43:50

and Pat, just, just Dylan B had a

43:52

50 last year in the playoffs. Dylan B

43:54

could have won the MVP the year before.

43:56

You lost it to Nicola because he's

43:58

fucking iconic, but... Joanne Williams had an

44:01

MVP in his damn trophy case in his office.

44:03

I wouldn't be having him for missing a whole

44:05

bunch of games, valid surgeries, I saw him do

44:07

a fucking handstand like I said the other day

44:09

in his damn shoot-around, regardless of which I can't

44:12

sit here and act like Joel and Beat ain't

44:14

been putting in work though the past couple of

44:16

years. So that's the difference. If Zion Williams

44:18

had an MVP in his damn trophy case

44:20

in his office, I wouldn't be having this

44:23

conversation with you. There's a difference there, man. You're

44:25

just coming from a place of frustration. You want to see this guy

44:27

just play basketball and it's this is only coming from a place of

44:29

frustration This is not coming from a place of hate. This is not

44:31

coming from a place of hate This is not coming from a place

44:33

of design. I'm thinking that you're soft team a team a team a

44:35

team that you're playing as you're playing You know you're playing a team

44:37

a team a team that you're playing you're playing a team a team

44:39

that you're playing that you're playing that you're playing that you're playing that

44:41

you're playing that you're playing that you're playing that you're playing that you're

44:43

playing that you're playing that you're playing that you're playing that you're playing

44:45

that you're playing that you're playing that you're playing that you're playing you're

44:47

playing you're playing you're playing you're playing you're playing you're

44:49

playing you're playing you're playing you're playing you're playing you're

44:51

playing you're playing you're playing you're playing you're But I'm

44:54

shooting up. Don't play basketball. I'm dead

44:56

ass serious. I'm speaking from a player

44:58

standpoint I understand the front office standpoint

45:01

if you wanted me to speak on

45:03

that side I could too I understand

45:05

where they're at protecting their asset They're

45:07

not in the race for the playoffs

45:09

right now. They're not going anywhere. They're

45:11

trying to get a good pick There's

45:14

no reason to lose this guy to

45:16

another injury. He's not playing back to

45:18

backs. I totally understand from the front

45:20

office standpoint. The front office is not

45:22

crazy for doing I understand what the

45:24

New Orleans franchise is doing around Zion.

45:27

It makes one a hundred percent

45:29

sense. Putting that out there, I'm

45:31

not making fun of them, I'm

45:33

speaking to Zion. Go play. All right?

45:36

They've been trying to trade

45:38

you. Okay? They did... What about the

45:40

fact that they're just not in the

45:42

race at all? I don't... I want

45:44

to see him play. I want to

45:46

see you get games. I want to

45:48

see you play... I'm just

45:50

trying to play devil's advocate here for you. I don't really

45:52

give a... Again, you speak on the organization side. If I'm

45:54

Zion, I'm not worried about Cooper Flag. What the fuck are

45:57

you talking about? I want to go play basketball. I want

45:59

to get up numbers. Why isn't Zion in a

46:01

fucking all-star game? Why is he in a dunk

46:03

contest? I want him out there. Bigging a dunk contest,

46:05

you saw the contest. I'm not into it.

46:07

Don't even get me started. I'm not into

46:09

it. The dunk contest is a complete catastrophe.

46:11

I won't be watching. You are absolutely gonna

46:13

watch. You know how. You know how I'm

46:16

not gonna watch? Plus I didn't watch last

46:18

year's dunk contest. I didn't watch it.

46:20

I didn't watch it. I only watched

46:22

the three-point thing with Sabrina. The Jaylon

46:24

Brown thing, you saw it. No, I

46:26

didn't. I watched the highlights of Jaylon

46:29

Brown's done. I didn't even watch it.

46:31

I watched Sabrina and Steph shoot against

46:33

each other. I have no interest

46:35

in watching a dunk contest, especially

46:37

this year. At least Jaylon Brown's

46:40

a star. This shit that they got going

46:42

right now with the NBA dunk contest,

46:44

well I'll do respect, valid. valid NBA stars

46:46

or pros wanted to do the dunk contest

46:48

and met more. I've already explained this. It

46:51

means more when an NBA star does a

46:53

tomahawk versus some guy who I don't know

46:55

doing a double 360. I don't care. There's

46:57

more impact. That's why the Dominic Jordan dunk

47:00

contest were so fun to watch because it

47:02

wasn't just two high jumpers. I can go

47:04

grab the flight brothers off Instagram if I

47:06

want to go see some crazy as dunks.

47:09

These guys are doing double between the legs

47:11

and... Tapping a glass and licking the rim

47:13

and dunking and they doing all type of goofy

47:15

shit. I don't give a damn about that. Why Dominic

47:17

and Jordan were the best is because you had two...

47:20

Bonafide Superstars. Vince Carter doing what

47:22

he did in Oakland in 2000s

47:24

because it's Vince Carter. And guess

47:26

who he's going against? People MacGrady,

47:28

Steve Francis, Baron Davis. Bro, these

47:31

are studs. Say no fucking just

47:33

like clown-ass. But these guys go

47:35

who? These guys are averaging 25

47:37

and night, 22 and night, 20.

47:39

These are stars. These guys go

47:41

who? These guys are averaging 25

47:44

and 9. These guys are averaging

47:46

in 25. And Zion Williams was

47:48

actually. Man, done with that. Will I

47:50

watch Clay and Steph and Sabrina shoot

47:52

that pill? I'll be watching that.

47:54

That sounds fun. The All-Star game I'm

47:56

only going to watch from the aspect

47:59

of Intrigue. see how this shit works.

48:01

Well we want to see the also

48:03

game this year, because obviously last year

48:06

was rock bottom, we want to see

48:08

if this year they made those improvements.

48:10

I want to see how this works

48:13

and if it works, because last

48:15

year was a was a mess of

48:17

an all-star game, it was where we

48:19

hit our lowest. It was so bad

48:21

y'all, it was so bad that Adam

48:23

Silver had to change it, he had

48:25

to be like AO. Just divide these

48:27

teams in like four and captains and

48:29

this and that and I don't even

48:31

know how this shit works I'm just

48:33

gonna tune in and just see these guys

48:36

play I know some of the players

48:38

aren't forward Kevin Duran's already been

48:40

like oh shit's whack. It's like bro

48:42

KD. Did you watch that shit last

48:44

year? I'm not blaming Katie because he's

48:47

done his time. It's not his responsibility.

48:49

It's the use. That's the problem. I

48:51

blame them already that cool shit. They

48:53

ruined the all-star star game. Give

48:56

me the guys that you would

48:58

want in the gun contest. I

49:00

already said Anthony Edwards, John

49:02

Moran, Zia Williams, healthy,

49:04

which physically he can,

49:06

according to him. So yeah, I put

49:09

him in there. In jail and green.

49:11

And I put jail and green. Or

49:13

anyone on the rockets, Thompson, can't wait

49:15

more. Give me, give me, no, no,

49:17

no, no, no, no, no. Someone

49:20

who plays valid minutes, I want a

49:22

good player. I want a good player.

49:24

would be like when Kobe won it

49:26

when he was on the way up

49:28

that could be a legacy thing

49:30

that on the propelling you on the

49:32

way up easy only like you throwing the

49:34

KB's name around like that easy does

49:37

it it does it it does it

49:39

does it does it does it does

49:41

it does it does it does it does

49:43

it does it does it does it

49:45

does it does it does it does it

49:47

it does it does it does it

49:49

does it it does it does it

49:51

does it it's a thing that on

49:53

context it just makes the legend even bigger

49:55

for sure. And I don't mind the tops,

49:57

he's a big time player, the fucking spin

49:59

of... 10 minute segment talking about his talent. That's

50:01

fine. He wants to get in it. He's valid. I

50:04

want, that's all I want, man. That's all

50:06

I want. Blake Griffin didn't even do any crazy dunks. I know

50:08

people, he jumped over a Kia. He jumped over like the

50:10

front license plate up in it. I don't know if people remember

50:12

the dunk. If you actually go back and look, he jumped

50:15

over like the first two feet of the car. He didn't really

50:17

jump over it. Did anybody give a fuck? No, you want

50:19

to know why? Because Blake's a stud and he's an unbelievable basketball

50:21

player. And he's an all -star. And all he did for a

50:23

living is dunk on people in the game. So people are

50:25

like, be in the dunk contest. So you know what he did?

50:27

Suit it up and do it. Do you think he really

50:29

wanted to go to the dunk contest? You think he didn't have

50:31

other plans for all -star weekend? You think it was fucking guy

50:33

who wanted to be just floating in the ocean somewhere? Sure

50:35

he did. But he went down there and handled business because

50:37

that's what competitors do. And that era is

50:39

not there. We can point

50:41

to LeBron being, he is the main catalyst

50:44

of that, of stars just not doing it for

50:46

whatever fucking reason. But you know what? LeBron

50:48

James has done so much else for the NBA.

50:50

Fucking guy goes to the finals like nine

50:52

years straight, Olympic gold man. I'm

50:54

not throwing that on him. I've done that in the

50:56

past. He's done enough. Good God. Guys

50:59

like that NBA in his back for like

51:01

20 years at this point, like

51:03

I'm not putting that on his shoulders.

51:05

Somebody else can take that blame. Regardless

51:07

of which, nobody wants to do the dunk

51:09

contest. These guys have no problem doing a 360

51:11

women on warmups or going and doing this shit in

51:13

the summer with cameras watching but somehow do it for

51:15

all -star weekend. I guess for you also, it's not

51:17

even about getting all -stars in there, like big -time players.

51:19

Zach Levin and Aaron Gordon was one of the best,

51:22

if not the best we've ever seen, but they were

51:24

just like, they were doing that all -star level. It was

51:26

just really good player. No, that's what I'm saying. You

51:28

don't have to be an all -star level. That'd be

51:30

great. It'd be great if we get a John Morant,

51:32

Anthony Edwards, Zion Williams in there. But we just said

51:34

Jaylen Green. I have no problem. Aaron Gordon's always been

51:36

a big -time player even before Denver where even Orlando, he

51:38

played a lot of minutes. He didn't have, he wasn't

51:40

in his rightful role but he was still a valid

51:42

NBA pro. Zach Levin's always

51:44

been a guy who's got minutes been a valid

51:46

pro. That's fine. If you

51:48

are a valid pro, I would

51:50

love to see it. I want to see it.

51:53

And by the way, those two were like phenomenal dunkers so

51:55

like we had to see them in there. You know

51:57

I mean? Like Zach Levin was like a

51:59

must. in the dunk contest. And they

52:01

gave us the best dunk contest competition since

52:03

arguably ever. You know what's crazy too is

52:05

when you look, normally after time passes, you

52:07

look back at old dunk contests and you're

52:09

like, ooh, these days, that's like not that

52:12

much. You could watch that dunk contest still

52:14

to this day and be like, people

52:16

aren't doing that right now. Like it's crazy,

52:18

even with time passing and evolution. Yeah,

52:20

not that. That so was nuts. Stuff, stuff

52:22

on the, on the flow, the segway. the

52:24

best part about that, those dunks was

52:26

they did it all in the first try,

52:28

both of them, one try, not

52:31

to throw it up six times. And then

52:33

you finally get it. And now like the

52:35

whole like mistake of the dunk is gone.

52:37

Like, because you already know what they're gonna

52:39

do and they've already missed three times. So

52:41

they do it like, Hey, you got it

52:43

in. No, like they were doing it one

52:45

try. This dude, Aaron Gorin timed that shit

52:47

with stuff. Perfect first try, bro. He just

52:49

looked a couple of times and then went

52:51

and then memory had his hand behind that.

52:53

Hey, bro, this is silly shit. Yeah. You

52:55

took a seat in midair, Zach threw it

52:57

up into the same dunk as to copy

52:59

him. First try, like then he threw it up,

53:01

put it, then he went behind it, then he tried to twin your

53:03

legs from back from the freestyle line. First try. Wouldn't

53:06

even like a gather and misstep or miss it. But

53:08

it was one try. These guys are just dunking.

53:10

So it's just like, come on, man. I

53:12

will be watching, however, the

53:14

all star game at a curiosity, not

53:17

excitement. Just to see you guys play harder just

53:19

because I am watching the three point. That's the

53:21

only thing I'm looking forward to, to be completely

53:23

honest. But yeah, the all star game

53:25

in general, it is what it is. They rewarded winning this

53:27

year. We saw that. And I'm not

53:29

complaining about it. There were some snubs. You can

53:31

go with Sabonis. You can go with Devin

53:34

Booker. You can go with a Maxi Trey Young.

53:36

They're all fitting. They're all all star level

53:38

players. They're all were former all stars and will

53:40

be future ones. I guarantee you Devin Booker

53:42

will probably make an all star game again. Right.

53:44

So it's just like sometimes you don't get in.

53:46

Some teams are playing very, very well. His team's

53:48

not. These young guys are hungry. Jaylen

53:50

Williams and these guys are new faces of the league

53:52

and they're not going anywhere. This is the reality of

53:54

the NBA. It's the evolution of these young guys are

53:56

coming. It's pretty soon the Thompson

53:58

guy. I mean, it's going to

54:00

be an all-star caliber player. It's not going to be four

54:02

years away. He's like a year or two away. Do you know

54:05

what I'm saying? So it's like, some of these guys are like

54:07

headed this way. It's only going to get more competitive. So I

54:09

understand what Devin's saying about like the staple of those guys, but

54:11

you got to earn that. Like, Step and then get it for

54:13

so long, bros. And Devin, you could argue, has played, I mean,

54:15

God, he's been so good God, he's been so good God, he's

54:17

been so good God, he's been so good, he's been so good,

54:19

he's been so good, he's been so good, he's been so good,

54:21

he's been so good, he's been so good, he's been so good,

54:23

he's been so good, he's been so good, he's been so good,

54:25

he's been so good, he's been so good, he's been so good,

54:27

he's Yeah, you know, I just looked at the list again and

54:29

it is just tough to take someone out. Like I said, I

54:31

wanted him on there, I wanted him on there, I wanted him

54:34

on there, but I couldn't figure out how to take off Taylor

54:36

Williams because they're on a 60 win pace and you can't take

54:38

off really any of his other guys, so it's really any of

54:40

his other guys, so it's really hard. Before we wrap,

54:42

it. Before we wrap up, I'm going on a 60 win pace

54:44

and you. Really, I knew his other guys, so it's other guys,

54:46

so it's other guys, so it's other guys, so it's other guys,

54:48

so it's, so it's, so it's, so it's, so it's really, so

54:50

it's, so it's really, so it's really, so it's really, so it's

54:52

really, so it's really, so it's really, so it's really, so it's

54:55

really, so it's really, so it's, so it's First of

54:57

all, you appreciate it from a hooper to

54:59

a hooper. Let me say this. He's a

55:01

hooper. Let me say this about Isaiah

55:03

Thomas. First off, you gotta respect

55:05

the passion that he has for basketball.

55:08

It's not easy. to go through the

55:10

things that he's gone through. And I

55:13

say that from a variety of reasons,

55:15

for four variety of reasons. For one,

55:17

to go from like an all-star caliber

55:19

player and you know all NBA type

55:22

player that he had that season where

55:24

he's average and 30 and he even

55:26

had his names whispered in

55:28

some MVP conversations for what

55:30

he was doing for that Boston

55:33

team to go from that level to

55:35

where you're at now, it's not an

55:37

easy fall man. All right. We always throw

55:39

out the Brendan Royce and we throw out

55:41

the Derek Roses and we throw out all

55:43

these names of guys, the Penny Hardaways, the

55:45

Team X, these guys are like, oh man,

55:47

we never talk about Isaiah Thomas, all right,

55:50

and the reality is whether you like it

55:52

or not, this guy was averaging 30 in the

55:54

NBA, for the Boston Celtics, he was

55:56

an absolute problem and he was

55:59

a physical specimen. People remember, like,

56:01

chase down blocks and Chris Paul,

56:03

like, stew was a freak athlete.

56:05

You used to finish, majority of

56:07

his points were in the fucking

56:09

paint. I think one of the

56:11

years, he was like, top in

56:13

the paint, scoring as a guard.

56:15

Sky is like five foot five,

56:17

five foot seven. How you're

56:19

finishing on people, bro. Unbelievable

56:21

athlete. He fucked his hip and

56:24

it fucked over his career. And we

56:26

don't know his name out there. And

56:28

he does got a hurt. Not to say

56:30

he didn't get some money, his guys

56:32

playing the NBA, he's financially fine,

56:34

but he could have made Max

56:37

and been like set up for

56:39

generations. And he missed it because

56:41

of a fucking injury. After playing

56:43

through those injuries for that franchise,

56:45

which has caused a lot of

56:47

people to feel away about Boston

56:49

for some years, it's gone away now,

56:52

it's washed off, but for some time

56:54

there, people felt a way about how

56:56

Isaiah Thomas was treated. you did get a

56:58

player that kind of got fucked over there. It

57:00

just happens. Well that bosses caramel is they got

57:02

kiree and that didn't work out. That didn't work

57:04

out either. But obviously it lets out. And they

57:07

go in a title and they got this. Everything

57:09

worked out. How good Boston is. But I just

57:11

first of all fantastic point. We don't

57:13

talk about Isaiah Thomas in the same breath as

57:15

you know the Penny Hardways and all these other

57:17

guys. He was probably what a top 5 MVP boat getter

57:19

that year and 30 points a game at his game at his

57:21

game at his size. I mean at his size. I mean at

57:23

his size. I mean. I mean. I mean. It's just shocking

57:25

to me that you can go from I don't

57:27

know working out in a gym or your local

57:29

gym or wherever he was working out to just

57:32

jumping into the g league and still just be

57:34

able to score four and that was my the

57:36

point after I wanted to put a respect on

57:38

his name first and put that out there if

57:40

we're talking about what's happening currently with

57:42

him it's it's first off it's

57:44

just remarkable from the standpoint of passion

57:46

90% of players I brought I walked away I'm 32 man

57:48

That's why it's interesting for you to talk about it because

57:50

you can easily go to the glee tomorrow right now And

57:53

you're choosing you're younger than Isaiah, so you're choosing to not

57:55

do that No, I'm doing my own thing and starting my

57:57

new career like Isaiah's looking as you get picked up. Oh

57:59

he is team on and everyone's like yo just

58:01

hang it up it's like your fourth g league

58:03

it looks bad it don't look bad it looks

58:05

like a guy loves playing the game of basketball

58:07

right it looks like a guy wants to continue

58:09

to be in the NBA you well by the

58:12

way for the people like yo hang it up

58:14

it worked for him last year the same people

58:16

told him hanging up last year he ended up

58:18

on the phoenix sons and got a roster spot

58:20

did he play a lot no but he got

58:22

that check but the fucker was making some

58:24

money man playing basketball for a basketball

58:27

for a living Isaiah Thomas could easily,

58:29

especially with him showcasing his talent. You

58:31

going to the Glings is going 40

58:33

like that after not playing in any

58:35

game or anything like that. First I

58:38

was remarkable. Non- basketball people

58:40

don't understand how hard that is. Being

58:42

in shape and enough to even have

58:44

be sharp enough to not just to go

58:46

from zero to 100 like that and just

58:48

go 40 first game is crazy. And being

58:51

older and at his size. Older surgeries,

58:53

his size, first Geely game, 40. He

58:55

don't belong down there. That's the

58:57

problem. The problem is, I don't

58:59

know where he fits in the

59:01

NBA, okay? That's the sad reality

59:04

of the situation. I'm not saying

59:06

there's not a fit for him.

59:08

There could definitely be a fit

59:11

for him somewhere, because there are

59:13

a variety, there are a plethora of

59:15

teams that struggle with bench

59:18

scoring. So maybe there could be

59:20

a fit for him there, no doubt.

59:22

I'm not just not diminishing

59:24

that opportunity for him.

59:26

There's no defense played. So a

59:29

guy like Isaiah Thomas, who's already

59:31

seen the mountaintop and says

59:33

anything to him. There's no pressure

59:35

to him. He's actually, especially at

59:37

this point in his career, he's

59:40

playing free money. He's going out

59:42

there and cooking everybody. He's

59:44

gonna have 30 again the next

59:46

time he plays. He'll have 30 every

59:48

time he plays in general. You're

59:51

choosing to step away from

59:53

your children. I'm not saying. It's a great

59:55

dad and all these things. I'm not saying that. I'm saying

59:57

when you play basketball you travel you have to travel away

59:59

from your kids. The big part of me retiring

1:00:01

is, yeah, I just want to be home

1:00:03

with my kids and do this media thing

1:00:05

and get to be with my kids more.

1:00:07

He's still fighting that race. He's still

1:00:10

running it. Go overseas, bro. He would

1:00:12

make so much money. And the reason

1:00:14

I say that is because there's no

1:00:16

question that he still can't play. The

1:00:18

guy just scored 40 in his first

1:00:20

glee play. There are teams in Paris,

1:00:22

Greece, in Italy, in Rome, Monaco, in

1:00:24

this place, in Lithuania, that would be

1:00:26

choppingpping at the to throw a bag

1:00:28

at Isaiah and the people over there

1:00:30

because he is an all-star caliber player

1:00:32

at one point in time and has

1:00:34

a big name. Excited about Kemba the

1:00:37

name comes through the name comes through

1:00:39

but he's like Kemba book is still

1:00:41

get down you know I mean Kemba one of

1:00:43

their play a year is just kind of one

1:00:45

of their play a year is just kind of

1:00:47

like you know I mean Kemba one of their

1:00:49

play a year is just kind of like

1:00:51

you know I mean Kemba one of their play

1:00:54

a year is just kind of their play a

1:00:56

year is just kind of a Marcus Howard are

1:00:58

good you should see this fucking guy play. He's

1:01:00

a whole different level of a player. So

1:01:02

not even close either. So that's something

1:01:04

I find him I'm if you go play then

1:01:06

go play go get some money go hoop.

1:01:08

You've already done your thing in the NBA

1:01:11

too. It's not like Isaiah didn't get his

1:01:13

opportunity like his thing was shortened due to

1:01:15

injury. We all know that. he's fighting to

1:01:17

stay on but even Isaiah even if you

1:01:19

do make it even if you are able

1:01:21

to get through the g league they're gonna

1:01:23

throw you at the end of a team

1:01:26

like they did in Charlotte or like they

1:01:28

didn't Phoenix which is cool because you're on

1:01:30

an NBA roster so i don't know

1:01:32

if it's a pride thing but you're

1:01:34

not gonna play a lot even all

1:01:36

the same overseas even if you're deserving

1:01:38

of playing Isaiah Isaiah they're going to

1:01:40

play that 22 year old over you

1:01:42

who stinks That's what happens. That's

1:01:44

what the NBA is, especially with

1:01:46

these bad teams are trying to

1:01:49

lose games and they get nothing

1:01:51

out of playing a 30-something-year-old basketball

1:01:54

player. It's not happening. For me,

1:01:56

I'm only saying this because Isaiah Thomas

1:01:58

is still nice as fuck. Go. play

1:02:00

overseas. That's a good point. There's not a

1:02:02

place. There's not a place. There's not a

1:02:04

place. And you have to do with the

1:02:06

same thing. There's a it's hard to find

1:02:08

a place for guys like you guys because

1:02:10

half the teams are good and they're competing

1:02:12

and they have their bench and it seems

1:02:14

I don't have a good bench. They're trying

1:02:17

to be young and they're trying to be

1:02:19

young and they're If you have a young

1:02:21

town, they're still going to play them over

1:02:23

you. They have to. That's the future of

1:02:25

their team. They have to. If I was

1:02:27

an executive, I'm playing them over you too,

1:02:29

Isaiah. Because I just drafted this kid, I've

1:02:31

got to see what you can do. I

1:02:33

know what you can do. We're not going

1:02:35

anywhere anyway. This guy's got to play, man.

1:02:37

I know you're not going anywhere anyway. This

1:02:39

guy's got to play, man. I know you're

1:02:41

not going anywhere, this guy's got to play,

1:02:44

this guy's got to play, this guy's got

1:02:46

to play, man. This guy's got to play,

1:02:48

man. I've got to, this guy's got to,

1:02:50

this guy's got to, this guy's got to,

1:02:52

this guy's got to, this guy's got to,

1:02:54

he's got to, he's got to, he's got

1:02:56

to, he's got to, he's got to, he's

1:02:58

got to, he's got to, he's got to,

1:03:00

he's You know that because for you to

1:03:02

go from zero to score and 40 in

1:03:04

a G league means he's been in the

1:03:06

gym every day. Like this guy's just continuing

1:03:09

to play. So even you who plays all

1:03:11

the time still, you'd have to do, if

1:03:13

someone was like, hey Tamari playing a G

1:03:15

league game, you'd be like, I'm not ready

1:03:17

for, I gotta get some kind of shit.

1:03:19

We talked about that last part. It's different

1:03:21

kind of, yeah, I haven't played a game.

1:03:23

So it's just like, go play. But I

1:03:25

wish it was nothing but the best. I

1:03:27

think it's phenomenal. This guy still plays and

1:03:29

You know, I think it's pretty cool Well,

1:03:31

yeah that does it for this this this

1:03:34

um this week's pod a lot to talk

1:03:36

about there a lot going on in the

1:03:38

NBA right now. There's other things. Yeah, we'll

1:03:40

stay for the next episode reality TV show

1:03:42

the NBA that we got a you know

1:03:44

drama we didn't even get into the Terry

1:03:46

Rosier stuff We let's just see how that

1:03:48

unfolds before. Yeah, I was going to say,

1:03:50

we probably want to see kind of how

1:03:52

that unfolds. So good thing we didn't, we'll

1:03:54

let that unfold, but there's a lot more

1:03:56

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1:03:59

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