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Hi , welcome to the show . I'm Carolyn and

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I'm Jill , and this is To All Know the Chicks

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and , as usual , this is Off

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the Cuff . This is a place where we know the topic

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when you know the chicks and , as usual , this is off the cuff . This is a place where we know the topic . When you know the topic

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, we pick out of a hat of different

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topics that caroline and I have

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come up with and , um

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, we just go from there . We honestly

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, it's been so long since we put these topics and

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we really have no idea . We literally

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have no idea , yeah , what we'll be talking about

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. So I am going

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to go ahead and pick . See

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what we got today .

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Uh , friends , oh that's

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a good one . It is a good one . Everybody needs

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friends , right , I

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guess ? Maybe not , maybe not , maybe you don't need

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friends . Yeah , yeah , friends

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are . I feel like friends are a necessity

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. For me , anyway , friends are a necessity and

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I have a lot of friends

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, I think , but

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I only have a very few really

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close friends .

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Yeah , same , yeah , same

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like in when we were in high school

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and that kind of thing . Like we had like a little friend

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group okay , but it was never

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the group that every

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once in a while , like one of them actually works

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at my child's school , so I see her all the

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time . And then one of them

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is my best friend who

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still does my hair . So

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you know we've remained friends . And then another one

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who actually went to a different

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school , actually went to the school you went to . We're

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still best friends , but we're

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not that like . I see

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groups of women who have

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been friends since high school , yeah , like

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big groups of women , and I'm like

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, how is , is it possible they'll

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have reunions , like on a yearly basis

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, like let's all get together . I'm like I don't want

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to talk to you , you

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don't know me , but I mean it's their group

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really . I mean they invite everybody , but really

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it's their group , right , they play tennis

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together and they do family

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vacations together . I'm like I

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see this on Facebook . I'm like , hold on , you're still

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friends , like I

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guess , because I

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feel like what you come

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from , really you

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grow from that and

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with my friends that are like the two that

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I have still from that time they're

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like best friends . They've grown

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into their own and I've grown into my own

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and we've all accepted each other for

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that Right Meaning . They've

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accepted me for the oddballness of

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all of the crazy things that

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I have done and they just kind of stand

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by my side and that's why I think they're superstars

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, right . But at the same time , you know , both

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of them have been through like divorces and children and this . So I've been there

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for them as well , right , those kind of things . But we've all kind of grown into

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our own . Where it appears

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and I could be wrong because I'm not in a big friend group

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, but it appears it's like okay

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, all of y'all have the same hobby and

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all of y'all's husbands kind of do the same thing

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and all of y'all live in the same neighborhood

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. No , thank you . Yeah . That's

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why , when you said we all need friends , like

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really , yeah

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, I guess what I mean by that is like

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I , I don't have to have a big friend group

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, yeah , oh , I don't either you're

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happy with just like a few , right , really

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good friends , right .

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But I know what you mean about the high school

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friends on Facebook . You know it's like and

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here's the funny thing , you know , when I was in high

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school , we had our own group as well . I

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wasn't like a popular kid , but I wasn't

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an unpopular kid . I was kind of there

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in the middle At least that's my

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perception . Maybe other people perceived it

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differently , but there were a

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lot of girls because our class

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was really pretty big . There were a lot

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of girls that I never spoke

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to in high school , right

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. But we're friends on facebook , right , and

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it's funny how , how things change

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right over time and

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, um , there's like

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we have , if you go to this

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girl's Facebook page , there's like 30

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mutual friends and they're all from high

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school , right , like we're all friends on Facebook . But

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I think that's really cool because these people are

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getting to know them . I

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didn't get to know them at high school , but I get to

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know them now through Facebook and they're

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very cool and I've actually run into some of them in

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real life and it's like we're

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friends . You know , it's very , very cool

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to have those . You know those

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, those sort of I'll call them

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new relationships , for lack of a better

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word , but I just think it's interesting

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how , over time , how things change

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.

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Yeah , yeah , see again

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, you and I are different because I

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hold that grudge , girl . Okay

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, it's okay . I was just thinking

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about this Just yesterday I was putting

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my makeup on , so somewhere

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in the subconscious must have

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known we were going to be talking about this . So

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I was remembering , this time

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, my son's a real estate agent and

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I'm very proud of him . He's done very well and

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he went to somebody's wedding

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and they had this

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girl that you

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know was in the , I mean , super

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cool group . Okay , right , like prettiest

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girl in school , super cool . She would have never

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, like thrown a feather

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to me . I

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mean , it was , you know , non-existent . And so she told my son

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he goes . Oh , mom , I met one of your friends from high

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school . Oh , who is it ? She

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asked me the girl's name . I'm like she's not my friend

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. She's not my friend , no

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, there's , no , no . She said you know , y'all

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went to dances . I said she

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was the prom queen . Okay , you can't

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align yourself . I'm

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not saying I'm anybody , but

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the real thing was , was

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, and these things that you

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have to teach like your daughters or your nieces

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or anybody growing up like you always say like that , that kindness that you have to teach like your daughters or your nieces or anybody growing up , like

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you always say , like that kindness

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, that you just the unkindness

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you just remember forever , right , so

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I can't be friends with her ever

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. Because when we

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were in theater class together , I

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mentioned to you before I was about 100 pounds

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overweight when I was in high school , mentioned

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to you before I was about a hundred pounds overweight

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when I was in high school and

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I remember cause I wore a size 22 pants , cause I'm kind of short , so

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and I had these jeans and I was very proud because I had found a pair of jeans

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to fit me at Sears . And so it was hard to find because

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, like all of us who were overweight

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, like in the , we'd all wait for Sears

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to get it . You know , some men they only got like two

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20 , 22 . So

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I'm going to run up there and get it , and

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so I was really proud of it because that day we

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had to like bring costumes and it was like

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we had some kind of like farm skit

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or something like that , and so I had folded

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up my pants and my little top because we hadn't changed yet . And for some , and I had folded up my

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pants and my little top because

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we hadn't changed yet and for some

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, and I had walked away , my friends and I were doing

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something else and so all of a sudden

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I hear whose fat

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ass pants are these ? Oh no

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, and they're holding up the pants . Oh my

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gosh . And at that moment

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I said those are mine

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, the tears in my eyes , of course . Oh

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, it's , it's fine . So , babe , don't

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talk to my son . Okay , you're not my son

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. Yeah , I

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know I sound like so unforgiving , but

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there was never a time that she said she was

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sorry . If she had come over to me and said oh

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, michelle , that was just terrible . I

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saw her in church for years , years

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up here at St Philip . She

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sat two rows ahead of me . I was so happy to see that she had an overweight daughter because

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I thought , wow , I

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hope nobody changes your child , because

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maybe you will see how that feels

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when your child is not perfect

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. I'm not saying she deserved that , I'm not saying

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her child deserved that , I'm just saying it's

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kind of ironic that

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you sat two rows ahead of me in

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church , never turned around , never

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said a word , knew it was me , even

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though I tried to catch your eye a couple of times . And

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then you're going to sit there at a wedding and tell

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my cute , very successful son

8:32

that you're friends with me . Wow , yeah

8:35

, so , yeah , I can see

8:37

where you're coming from there . Yeah , yeah

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, you see that rage and anger I was talking about

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. Thank you , thanks

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again , caroline , for bringing

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that out . Oh , yeah , okay , I've got

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my friend Terry . She was there and

8:58

so I'm sure like she probably sliced

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their tires or something and she found out

9:02

. But she's not afraid . I

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was actually very shy then , yeah , and

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so I was always like I'm not going to say anything

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, because it wasn't even just my weight , it

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was just I was very , very shy

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and very sit to the back

9:15

and try not to be noticed , kind of thing . Yeah

9:17

, and so it was just brutal

9:19

. Yeah , so now

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when people do that , I just block them . You

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don't get a second chance with me . Yeah , I

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block them from my life . It's

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it okay , you're gonna say something needs me block

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. We were talking earlier .

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We're talking about everything weird

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.

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I know we're talking about that earlier

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, that I'm just like . I don't delete your comment

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. Okay , you're blocked

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, you're forever . Don't

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talk about , don't say something mean to me because

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you , you're gone in my life see

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, that's the difference , like with with the , my

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high school friends on facebook .

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We never spoke like we , just

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there were people that I just well

9:57

, that was the only interaction I ever had with her .

9:59

Oh , that's terrible , that's

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horrible . Yeah , that's the only interaction ever

10:04

. Oh , my gosh friends of her . I

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wonder if she even remembered , like if that ever

10:09

comes to her mind , I think sometimes

10:11

when , when

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it's a constant kind of thing , and she was in

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a very mean group . I

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think that you don't remember , because there

10:19

were so many things that you said .

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She made that up .

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I'm sure if I brought that up to her she'd be like that didn't

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happen . I'm like

10:28

, yeah , you have something

10:30

like that etched in your mind and

10:32

all I ever wanted to do really was fit in

10:34

Right . Oh sure , everybody was like that

10:37

, but I'm so happy that I didn't , because

10:40

I am not like that

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kind of taught me . Like I said , I see

10:45

these whole friends group . They live in the same neighborhood

10:47

and go to the same church and all their kids go

10:49

to the same school and they all play tennis

10:51

together . I'm like I'm not a

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clone , right . I am a multi-faceted

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person and because I

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was left out , I had to find my own way

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, which is why I'm like I am today . I'm

11:03

very proud of myself well , you're an awesome person

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. I try , you are , I

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try , but I just you

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know those deep-seated things that just

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. I've also taught all of my kids

11:13

to just be very kind and not

11:16

make fun of others and kind of . My

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kids have also gone

11:21

to schools where they

11:24

are either in public

11:26

school or private

11:28

schools that are multicultural

11:32

and multi-academic

11:35

level . So , like , the high

11:37

school that most of my kids went to

11:40

is now closed , but it

11:42

was not only the highest academically

11:44

, it was also considered

11:46

the lowest , if you want to call it that way

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, because we had the largest special education

11:51

program and literally

11:53

children would be strapped

11:56

to wheelchairs . Yeah , drooling

11:58

Well , the children at the

12:00

high school , the teens at the high school

12:03

, they were so used to

12:05

it that if they saw it in the

12:07

mall they weren't like

12:09

off to the side laughing and giggling

12:11

. It's like , no , this is people

12:13

. This is how it was so used to that . This is how it was so

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used to that school

12:18

that my daughter still goes to , which

12:21

is a private school , but

12:28

they also have a learning center on campus that helps a lot of children

12:30

with learning disabilities . It's the same thing . They get used to different levels

12:32

of people and

12:35

different friendships with those people

12:38

, people

12:42

and different friendships with those people . So to me that's so much better

12:45

balanced than I want to send my child . Sorry , new Orleans people

12:47

, I don't agree with the all-girl and

12:49

all-boy Catholic schools . I just don't . I

12:51

just don't . And academically

12:53

you have to be

12:55

on this level . And then to brag

12:58

and say , okay , okay , we have the highest

13:00

achieving levels to go to college . Well , of course

13:02

you do . Could you pick out your kids ? You

13:05

pick them out Like you get the best of cream

13:07

of the crop . You don't let anybody else in

13:09

, so of course you're going to have the best grades . What is that

13:11

to brag about ? Yeah , you know what I'm

13:13

saying . That's like saying , okay , well

13:15

, I'm going to put this high school

13:17

sprinter that's been training for 10

13:19

years against this eighth

13:22

grader who's never won in his life , and let's

13:24

see , oh , he's the winner . Give him the big trophy

13:26

. I mean please . Yeah , you know , I just

13:28

want my children to be around all

13:31

types of friends and

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learn that . Learn how to get along with people

13:36

who have , who are different colors

13:38

than you are , who are different abilities

13:41

than you are , and have everyone

13:44

as friends , not just the chosen

13:46

right I

13:48

totally see what you're saying .

13:50

I did though I did love my time

13:53

at the old girls . I knew you did . I

13:55

really did , yeah , and

13:57

you're right , that's like really a very war

13:59

words thing .

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It is a war words thing , yeah , and and

14:02

you know they again all stay

14:04

friends together and stuff like that . I just feel like and

14:08

I'm not saying that's not their mission here on earth

14:10

but I just wonder have you questioned is

14:13

this it ? Is this really

14:15

what you're supposed to do , just what everybody else does

14:17

? Yeah , when you put here on earth to do

14:19

something else , even if it means

14:22

less friends and

14:24

less notoriety

14:27

or whatever .

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Right , right , that's one of the things I

14:30

love about the board . There are so

14:32

many different types of people . I

14:34

mean , our volunteers are all

14:37

different age , I mean from teenagers to

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to . We have people

14:41

up in their 80s who come out and volunteer

14:44

, and it just all people from all

14:46

different walks of life and I love

14:48

that . I love it , you know , there's such

14:50

a variety and that I get to interact

14:53

with all . They all have their , their

14:56

strengths and their abilities , you know

14:58

, yeah , and it's just very cool .

15:00

I just think that people really , really miss

15:02

out when they don't expose

15:04

themselves and their children to

15:06

all different types

15:09

of people . They really miss

15:11

out . Their true joy is

15:13

an opportunity for

15:16

those kind of friendships . They're

15:18

missing it and they a lot of friendships . They're missing it and they , a

15:20

lot of times , don't even realize it . And

15:23

so I wonder if I would sit down with each

15:25

one of those people who it

15:27

would seem like you'd want to be friends

15:29

with , if , after speaking to

15:31

them , would you really want to be friends with them . Because

15:34

I've had situations in my life where

15:36

then in different Mardi

15:39

Mardi Gras crews and social

15:41

groups and that kind of thing , and

15:44

you know , I've gotten to know some people and

15:47

that maybe are politicians

15:50

or high up in society

15:53

or extremely wealthy and

15:55

like they're kind of shallow

15:57

, you know they're're just I don't

15:59

know . And then I've got some really

16:01

terrific people too that it's just like wow , you

16:04

shake their hand , boy , you feel that energy of rage

16:06

. You know it's like wow , I want to be next to you , right

16:08

, exactly exactly , and a lot of times

16:11

too .

16:11

You know you , you can have an idea

16:14

of how somebody will

16:17

be or a group of people will

16:19

be , but when you get

16:21

to know that person , they're

16:23

completely different than what your stereotype

16:26

, right , your brain , was , you know like . A

16:28

great example is one of

16:30

the lady that comes to the board . She's

16:32

a trainer . She was

16:35

a a grand prix level

16:37

dressage ride okay

16:39

, which is the highest you can get . She

16:41

was one of the best in europe , and

16:44

as a kid I

16:47

wrote english , I took lessons and

16:49

my parents always wanted me to show and

16:52

I never wanted to do that because I was

16:54

so intimidated by the

16:56

show girls at the barn , you know . They had all the the clothes and

16:58

the equipment and they all had their horses and stuff . I was so intimidated by the showgirls at the

17:00

barn , you know . They had all of the clothes and the equipment and they all had their

17:02

horses and stuff , and I didn't have any of that

17:04

. I just didn't . And

17:07

I had this idea about

17:09

all of them that they were better than me . They

17:12

knew they were better than me , you know , and

17:14

they probably didn't like me . Maybe

17:20

that wasn't true , but that's what my head said , right and fast forward to now

17:22

. I get to be around a

17:25

lot of really cool

17:27

people who ride , like

17:30

this lady , and she is one of

17:33

the coolest people One

17:36

of our instructors same thing Coolest people , yeah , one of

17:38

our instructors same thing , and showed for a long

17:40

time in Europe , and just

17:42

one of the coolest

17:44

people I know . Yeah , and

17:47

that would have never changed for me

17:49

had I not expanded

17:51

my horizons . Right , you know what I

17:53

mean , right , yeah , but I think

17:56

, yeah , you have to

17:58

get to know people in order to

18:00

know . Hey , am

18:02

I , you know ? Am I going to work with this person ? Is this person

18:04

going to be a friend of mine , as

18:06

opposed to ? Well , I

18:09

have an idea in my head about people

18:11

who , who , show the

18:13

horses , so I'm not going to deal

18:16

with that you see what I'm saying .

18:18

Yeah , well , I mean , I think it's different as adults

18:20

. But , like I said , like the

18:23

girl I was talking about , you know , it's like it wasn't

18:25

, like it just happened in high school . When we were seniors

18:28

in high school , it was years

18:30

of pretending like

18:32

you don't know me . Yeah , yeah , as

18:34

adults , and we had kids . Yeah

18:37

, that's messed up , so I

18:40

don't even think about it . I think it's a joke . No-transcript

18:46

, I'm not perfect , but I really do

18:48

know who my friends are and who will show up for

18:51

me . Right , I really do . I

18:53

have this joke with one of my friends , beth

18:56

, and she'll call me and

18:58

pick up the phone and tell

19:01

her , hey , can I call you right

19:03

back . And she says , sure , it'll be Tuesday and

19:05

on Thursday I'll call her and I'll say , hey , I'm calling

19:07

you right back . She goes you know , I got your girl . I

19:16

know you're busy . She knows , yeah , she knows it's never like on purpose , like

19:18

. She knows that I have a million things going on . I run two venues , seven kids . It's just

19:21

when I talk to somebody I want to

19:23

be present . I don't want to just sit there and

19:25

be like yes , no , and I'm not even

19:27

paying attention to them . Right , I

19:29

want to be there and be the

19:31

friend that she deserves on that phone

19:33

call . Instead of let me hurry up and get

19:35

you off the phone because I'm too busy to talk to you . Right

19:38

, I think you need to take the time and be

19:40

there , because she's always there for me .

19:42

My best friend is like that too . Well , the voice

19:44

teacher , yeah , and

19:47

if you look at the two of us together , nobody

19:49

would ever think those two are friends

19:52

. We're just completely opposite

19:54

if you look at us . But she

19:56

is just one of the best

19:59

people I know and

20:01

I would have never thought we

20:03

would be friends . I started

20:05

taking voice lessons with her a long

20:07

time ago now and , um

20:10

, we just clicked . If

20:12

I had just seen her out and

20:14

about somewhere , I would have never

20:16

guessed , yeah , we would be the friends

20:18

that we are today . I mean , you just never

20:21

know , you never know who you're gonna click with , right

20:23

and um , but it's

20:25

the same thing . Like we , we try to get together every

20:27

week at for like an hour

20:30

just to catch up that

20:32

kind of thing , and a lot of times

20:34

we'll go weeks , yeah , without

20:36

being able to do that . Right , it's all good

20:38

, right it's . You know , there's like no problem

20:41

there . Like she called me last

20:43

night just because we hadn't seen each

20:45

other in , I don't know , a few weeks , yeah

20:47

, and she was . Hey , you just wanted to call and check

20:50

in , you know , yeah , but friends

20:52

are like friends , good

20:55

friends , like that , and like you're talking

20:57

about with your best friends . You know , I

20:59

feel like they're , they're vital . Well , we're social

21:02

beings . Yeah , we need that

21:04

we do .

21:05

We do need that . And you know , I've made mistakes

21:07

in my life and invested

21:09

a lot of time in different people

21:11

who I thought were

21:13

my friend and then realized because

21:16

I'm in business and I remember selling

21:18

one of my businesses and thinking that the vendors

21:20

that I dealt with because I would invite them to my

21:22

kids' weddings and stuff , and thinking

21:24

these are my friends , and I remember they

21:27

just all dropped me . It's like

21:29

, oh my gosh , they

21:33

weren't my friends at all . Yeah , I was stupid , but

21:35

I won't make that mistake again . Like I'm always

21:38

friendly to everyone , but I I

21:40

don't . Like I I have

21:42

put up a wall to that . Like I have to protect

21:44

myself because I was so upset about

21:46

it . And then you know it's just a good

21:49

, a good lesson . Yeah , that

21:51

sometimes friends from

21:53

Beth taught me that you know you have

21:55

friends for a reason and that

21:57

was them . They were friends with me for a reason and

21:59

friends for a season and you have friends

22:01

for a lifetime . Yeah , that's very true

22:03

. And sometimes friends are just for a season

22:06

and then it's like you have to accept

22:08

that , not that the friendship's over , you

22:10

always kind of be like friends , but if

22:13

the season is over and no

22:15

big blowout or anything . But everybody's not

22:17

good for each other , right ? So

22:19

sometimes you just have to move on from

22:21

that because you know that it's just not

22:23

not not a good situation , but

22:25

it's not going anywhere , like your time needs to

22:27

be involved in something else , right

22:30

? I think that happens a lot with friends

22:32

that let's say you're in

22:34

some kind of friend group and

22:36

people get married

22:38

one by one and

22:40

let's say that the friend

22:42

who is not married to a couple of friends who are not married

22:45

getting more and more upset like

22:47

you're leaving us but

22:49

you're not leaving them . You're just in a

22:51

different season of your life , so

22:53

the friendship has to change , right

22:56

? So I did go through

22:58

that with a few of my friends where

23:00

it was like , okay , our season

23:02

of just , you know two giddy girls sitting around

23:05

, you know , every Saturday night

23:07

or you know whenever , friday , that

23:09

can't be anymore because somebody else has to be

23:11

involved , and so we all had to shift

23:14

into that , and I think that's important to know when

23:16

to shift . Sure , absolutely .

23:18

Absolutely . The interesting thing too is

23:20

it's funny because you can meet

23:22

friends anywhere , whether

23:24

it's in person , facebook

23:27

, whatever , right , when

23:29

you were talking about that , it just popped

23:31

into my head . I have a friend

23:33

she lives up in . She's from

23:35

Massachusetts . She moved not too long

23:37

ago to New Hampshire . This is

23:39

funny . I met her . Let's

23:42

tell you how long ago it was . I met her in

23:44

an AOL chat room . Oh , wow

23:46

, yeah , aol chat room

23:48

. It's been over 20 years

23:50

that we've been friends . I've

23:53

never met her in person , but

23:55

we have talked on the phone so many times . We're

23:58

like like she's one of my closest

24:01

friends . I can probably talk to her about anything

24:03

. Yeah , but I've never seen

24:05

her . I've seen pictures of her , yeah

24:07

, but I would never have

24:09

thought that could be

24:11

until recently

24:14

. And when I say recently , in the last

24:16

25 years or so

24:18

, with computers and internet

24:20

and social media , all that stuff , I've

24:22

met people on Facebook that

24:25

I would love to meet in person . They've just

24:27

become really good friends . So

24:30

you can have friends that aren't

24:32

necessarily people that you see in person

24:34

, right ? I agree ?

24:35

I agree , people that can

24:37

have a big impact on your life that you never

24:39

meet right , social media

24:41

and just all the communication options

24:44

that we have today really opened up

24:46

the whole lane

24:48

of it . Yeah , and although I agree

24:51

with you that is good for friendships , I

24:53

also think personal interaction is important

24:55

too , definitely , or more important

24:57

actually . I think you can have those

25:00

kind of relationships , but you still need and

25:02

the only reason why I speak to

25:04

that is just because there's like children

25:07

who love , like still

25:09

, video games and

25:11

that's where their friends are and their friends

25:13

might be in Germany , you know

25:15

, playing video games with them and it's great that they have

25:17

that friend . But they

25:20

also need social interaction in

25:22

person right too , and

25:24

that's important to me to emphasize

25:27

to to our kids . Or even

25:29

, you know , a lot of people's husbands are into that mine

25:31

isn't , but known

25:33

different friends and stuff . They're like my husband's

25:35

just always playing these games with all these

25:37

friends and stuff and like well

25:40

, maybe you need to restrict

25:42

them on that , like a kid , you know . Yeah

25:44

, because you have to have that in-person

25:47

social interaction as

25:49

well , definitely , and you know what's really

25:51

important talking about social interaction , is

25:53

hugs .

25:54

yeah , hugs are like super important

25:56

, yeah , for people . Yeah , I

25:59

know , during the whole

26:01

covid thing with this social

26:04

distancing stuff , right , it

26:06

really bugged me , man , because

26:08

people need hugs

26:11

, right , and nobody was doing

26:13

that Well .

26:14

I think they said they had record levels

26:16

of depression during that time yeah

26:21

absolutely because people weren't having that interaction like I'm

26:24

just talking about , yeah , but we were all seeing each other online , right , right , big difference

26:26

. There's a big difference . Yeah , that's why people were

26:28

having depression . They weren't getting

26:30

up , they weren't going to work . Look

26:32

, I'm all for the

26:34

stay in your house and work . I

26:37

get it , especially if you have children and

26:39

you want something online that you

26:41

can do from home so you don't have to spend

26:43

on daycare and all . I totally get it

26:46

and understand it . But

26:48

I think the aspect

26:50

of getting up every day , getting dressed and

26:52

going somewhere is also just very

26:55

important . You make friends that

26:57

way . You have social

27:00

obligations , you have work obligations

27:02

, luncheons , different things like that and

27:05

you have , of course , work most

27:07

of all . So , even if you work

27:09

from home home , if you just do two

27:11

days a week like in the office or something

27:13

like that , you think that can benefit

27:15

you more than your company even

27:18

. Yeah , just having

27:20

always in a room in

27:22

your house without leaving them , never

27:25

having to just put

27:27

you on and walk out the door

27:29

and get in your car and drive back , I

27:31

just I think all of that's

27:33

important , but I think that's important for friendships

27:36

as well absolutely , I know .

27:37

You know , like right now I told you I'm on the back end of a

27:39

call . For the last three days

27:42

I've been laying around on the sofa

27:44

watching tv . I couldn't wait to come

27:46

out to work today . Yeah , just to

27:48

get out and be around people and the

27:50

outside , and it's really

27:52

, it is very important yeah , for

27:55

sure .

27:55

And again , like I said , we're talking about friendships

27:58

on this podcast , so I think it's

28:00

important even for not only

28:02

friendships , to make friendships but

28:04

promotions . How does

28:06

the big boss know what you're doing if

28:08

he never sees you ? This is true , and

28:10

a lot of how we move up in growth

28:13

, in our jobs or anywhere

28:15

, is our personality . Yeah

28:17

, sometimes more important than

28:20

even your job is that

28:22

you are your demeanor

28:24

, how you handle things . That's

28:26

what gets you promoted in your job

28:29

. We can't do anything just on

28:31

our own , by ourselves , right In

28:33

a dark room in our house . It just doesn't work

28:35

like that Exactly .

28:37

I know my job

28:40

, the job that I have working in my dad's

28:42

company . Most of the time

28:44

I'm just out doing my

28:46

thing by myself . I mean , I interact

28:49

with customers , but I'm just out doing

28:51

my thing , and which is great

28:53

and there are definitely pros

28:56

to that . When I started to work

28:58

at the born , I was

29:00

suddenly part of a team

29:02

, I mean in the staff team , yeah

29:05

and that was like I

29:07

still love it . I love it Cause for

29:09

so so many years I didn't

29:12

have that so

29:14

much and it's um , it's

29:17

just great to be part of that and be just

29:19

involved with other people and

29:22

making decisions and doing things and laughing

29:24

and but you had to

29:26

open that door .

29:28

Yeah , you're listening , today in your life I

29:30

don't have any friends . I don't know how to make friends . You

29:33

know you have to open some doors . Sometimes

29:35

you got to get out of your comfort zone , you do , you

29:37

do , and it is uncomfortable , it is To

29:40

just , you know , go to something , go to

29:42

some type of event maybe

29:44

you were cautious about . Or last

29:47

year , joey and I went to a Saints

29:49

game One of the event

29:52

rental companies that I deal with . They were like , oh

29:54

, we have a box and we want you and Joey to

29:56

come . And so I was like

29:58

, okay , sorry y'all , I don't

30:00

really watch football . But I was

30:02

like , no , let's go . And

30:05

then it wound up that the two girls that

30:07

I'm usually just have phone call

30:09

interaction with they've really

30:11

become friends and we've gone out to dinner a couple of times

30:14

and it turned out to be

30:16

and I put my guard

30:18

up . I know they're just business friends , I'm

30:21

not mistaking that again , but still

30:23

, it's still pleasant and laughter comes

30:25

from it . Yeah , Absolutely

30:27

.

30:28

You never know . You never know where you're going to meet a

30:30

friend . Yeah , that's like

30:32

you and I . For the people

30:34

who are listening to this , we are

30:36

the friends . They didn't know they had Right

30:39

Exactly , or weren't it Right

30:41

? But here you have us , right

30:44

, here we are . Here we are .

30:49

We're not old wisdom , it

30:51

comes with age , but we're your

30:53

friends , yeah , so yeah

30:55

, you know here to help and in

30:57

that , if you ever want to reach out

31:00

, we have an email . If you ever want to

31:02

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31:04

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31:07

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31:10

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31:22

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31:24

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31:26

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31:28

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31:29

Exactly , go out there and make some friends

31:31

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31:33

Bye-bye .