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1:30

Good

1:54

evening, welcome to MUFON Los Angeles. My name

1:56

is Steve Murillo. I am the State Section Director for

1:58

MUFON LA. We have a. very interesting

2:01

guest tonight. He's going to be talking about

2:03

UFO propulsion. His name is Thomas

2:06

Vollone, PhD, and he's a physicist,

2:08

a licensed professional engineer with over 30 years

2:10

of professional experience. He's a former

2:13

patent examiner, a research engineer,

2:15

instrumentation designer, CEO,

2:17

and currently an author, lecturer, and consultant

2:20

on future energy developments. Dr.

2:22

Vollone will be speaking to us tonight about

2:25

energy systems of UFOs and attempts to duplicate

2:27

this technology for use by humans.

2:30

Magnetism is the only force in nature not directly

2:33

harnessed for energy usage. While

2:35

some UFO reports describe permanent

2:37

magnet-powered craft, building

2:39

a practical replication is often very

2:41

elusive. Vollone will

2:43

give us a description of the historical UFO

2:46

connection to the study of electro-gravitics, which

2:49

is the subject of two of his books. He will speak about

2:51

electro-kinetics and a groundbreaking Norton

2:54

Air Force Base demonstration of this technology.

2:56

He will also be screening a short clip from

2:58

Discovery Channel's Strangest UFO Stories,

3:01

which features his commentary. He will also

3:03

be discussing and signing his new book, Zero Point Energy,

3:06

The Fuel of the Future. Would everybody put

3:08

your hands together and welcome Dr. Thomas

3:10

Vollone. First

3:20

of all, I thought I'd give you a little bit of orientation

3:22

in case any of you are disoriented.

3:24

We are right over here.

3:27

The Milky Way has a very

3:29

strange black hole in the center, and

3:31

astronomers are learning more and more about how

3:33

strange it really is. We have

3:37

interest in what's happening at the center,

3:39

of course, for two reasons. One

3:41

is the fact that the black hole at the center

3:43

seems to not only pull matter

3:46

in, but also send energy outward.

3:49

This could be a problem for people living

3:51

on the far edge of the spiral

3:54

arms. The interesting thing for

3:56

us, the second reason, is that the

3:59

spiral arms technically,

4:01

are the younger stars of the galaxy. And

4:04

so you have to start to think as you look

4:07

at the galaxy and how it's laid out

4:09

in terms of its millions of years of evolution,

4:12

perhaps there's something going on as far

4:14

as the internal central

4:17

portion versus the

4:19

spiral arms which is the younger crowd.

4:22

And we certainly are the younger crowd. But

4:25

what is the younger crowd doing today? We're advertising

4:27

their artificial activity. Every night

4:30

we have lots of lights showing, hey

4:32

there's something happening on this Earth. So anyone

4:35

cruising by for up to say 50

4:38

light years? Because for 50 years

4:40

we've been turning lights on and sending out

4:42

television and all kinds of other electromagnetic

4:45

signals. And

4:48

of course there might be some unidentified frivolous

4:50

objects such as cover

5:03

article. And this is a great endorsement

5:06

of the importance of studying and looking

5:09

for new energy concepts in

5:12

terms of advanced technologies that

5:14

are related to UFOs. This

5:16

is in the Journal of Scientific Expiration Volume 12

5:19

number 3. And what I point out

5:22

and emphasize is the fact that the gravitational

5:25

and inertial effects are one

5:27

of the areas that the scientists

5:31

who authored this are emphasizing

5:33

as a very important area for study

5:36

and of course development. And

5:39

the unexplained phenomena

5:41

is really the point of

5:44

needing scrutiny. Now to

5:46

show you what has been happening lately in

5:48

terms of books that have been revealing

5:53

the technological back

5:55

engineering that we're encouraging,

5:58

this new book is called The New World. book came out

6:01

recently, just I believe a year ago, specifically

6:05

trying to show people what the patches

6:07

of each of the Area 51 groups are

6:10

representing. And of course

6:12

this particular one, Lifetime of

6:14

Silence, showing high security, gives

6:16

you an exact location of Area 51,

6:19

just in case you weren't sure where it was. This

6:23

is the title of the book, a very warm

6:25

encouraging type of fuzzy title,

6:27

right? I could tell you, but then it'd have to

6:30

be destroyed by me. And

6:32

he took, spent years interviewing

6:34

black project workers, engineers,

6:37

and scientists to accumulate

6:40

some of these patches. I picked out the most

6:42

interesting ones I thought that related to technology.

6:45

And after you start studying these, you

6:48

kind of wonder what they think

6:50

of the technology and what

6:52

they're using it for. This

6:55

is a general consensus of lay people

6:58

in regards to the military

7:01

industrial complex that Eisenhower worried

7:03

about years ago. And of course

7:07

the black project secret budget that

7:09

ends up being non-accounted

7:12

for. And as you can

7:14

see, global engagement, a lot

7:16

of morbid freedom

7:19

in the cosmos, but the emphasis

7:21

is on dominance and and

7:23

death related type of images. National

7:27

Reconnaissance Office, interestingly enough,

7:30

is one area that I have a little bit of experience

7:32

in. I was at a National Space

7:34

Society conference a couple years ago, and

7:38

they featured a National Reconnaissance

7:40

Office speaker but gave a pseudonym. So

7:44

when he showed up, it was the Deputy Director,

7:46

Leonard Hart. And he gave this

7:48

very interesting staff

7:51

meeting type of presentation.

7:54

And I was kind of put off by a thing in the audience

7:56

because he basically said to the audience,

7:59

we need more. major muscle moves to get our

8:01

satellites every month up into the air. And

8:04

the NRO is something when I ask most

8:07

people, do you know what the

8:09

NRO stands for? Very

8:12

few people can even recite the title. And

8:15

the funny thing is, the NRO is bigger

8:17

than the CIA. And

8:20

yet they're very secretive obviously. But

8:22

the fact that he's calling for a major muscle move

8:24

I thought was a very quotable phrase.

8:27

And you can see the emphasis he's placing

8:30

on the importance of getting all his sound

8:32

lights up there on a regular basis.

8:35

So the

8:37

other parts of the story is I

8:41

pigeonholed him as he left his podium

8:45

outside the door to specifically

8:47

ask him about declassifying one

8:50

technology, for example. I'm an

8:52

advocate, and I have been for 30 years now,

8:54

of declassification of at least one

8:57

technology every year that relates

8:59

to energy and or propulsion.

9:02

I feel the civilian crowd

9:05

needs it. Our economy definitely needs

9:07

it. The climate definitely needs it. Global

9:10

warming is something that no matter what you think it's

9:12

caused by, if we have a carbonless

9:16

technology that's providing either energy

9:18

and or transportation propulsion,

9:21

it would immediately ameliorate the

9:23

carbon emissions. So

9:26

what he pointed out, and I have a slide I'll

9:28

show you shortly, is

9:30

that as I pitched

9:32

to him the mutual benefit to

9:35

the space tourism crowd, which was

9:37

at the National Space Society, all the

9:39

billionaires were there. Virgin Galactic was represented

9:42

by Ransom

9:44

and so forth. The interesting

9:46

thing was he admitted that this

9:48

technology I'm going to show you about inertial shielding

9:52

was something that was probably highly

9:54

classified. And

9:57

he specifically indicated

9:59

that when a technology

10:01

like that is classified, it tends

10:04

to go up higher and higher until it's

10:06

out of sight in terms of classification,

10:08

top secret levels. He said it's

10:10

cheaper for us to reinvent it by hiring

10:13

a contractor to reinvent

10:15

the project technology, and

10:17

it will come out at a lower classification level. I

10:20

said, well, isn't that like the taxpayer has to pay

10:22

twice for something that's really important? And

10:25

he admitted that was true. But

10:28

he said he would do what he could to help declassify

10:30

stuff. But as we know, even at

10:32

the patent office, things that are secretized,

10:35

and there's almost 5,000 patents now,

10:37

if you go to Federation

10:39

of American Scientists, FAS.org,

10:42

you can look at the annual report

10:45

about secretized patents, and they

10:47

keep going up and up in terms of numbers, but

10:49

right around 5,000. And they don't tend

10:51

to be declassified until about 50 years

10:54

later. So the poor inventor

10:57

has done all this great work superseding

11:00

every known technology, finally

11:02

gets into the stratosphere of secret classified

11:05

stuff, gets swatted with a secret

11:07

order, and basically most of them don't

11:09

get any royalties, from

11:12

what I heard. So it's a difficult

11:15

conundrum, and it's been going on for about 50 years,

11:18

skimming off the top of the highest

11:20

and most advanced technologies, until

11:23

we're basically driving around in World War

11:25

II technology, gasoline engines.

11:29

So as you can see, all these different, this

11:31

is a playoff on one of the

11:34

Twilight Zone episodes.

11:38

This is so bad, I don't even want to talk about it. This

11:41

is the alien view of mankind, supposedly,

11:44

from the Area 51 Black Project crowd. But

11:49

you get the message, you get the impression. So

11:52

moving on, hopefully we will

11:54

have some lobbying effort in

11:57

that regard from Washington or from...

11:59

here in California. The

12:02

question needs to be asked, how can civilians

12:04

visit Mars? Well,

12:07

I would suspect and propose

12:09

that we certainly cannot reach there by

12:11

burning people. And this has

12:13

been proven literally by three

12:15

major efforts to develop a space

12:17

plane, the National Space

12:21

Plane Project, National Aerospace Plane

12:23

Project in 1986. That

12:26

was cancelled in 1993. Because

12:30

it couldn't really operate. There was questions about,

12:32

they didn't really know how to operate it at hypersonic

12:34

speeds. The Delta Clipper

12:37

has a very famous video in which you see it

12:39

trying to land and then all of a sudden it falls

12:41

over. So that got

12:43

cancelled in 1996 after the accident

12:46

was destroying it. And then

12:48

the funniest thing, Lockheed Martin, you kind of wonder

12:50

where these guys are coming from if they also

12:53

have lots of black projects. X33

12:56

was their greatest new attempt to design

12:59

something to replace the shuttle. And

13:01

what are they designed? A wedge shaped lifting

13:03

body that basically was a thin

13:06

skinned fuel holder.

13:09

And they realized they still couldn't pack enough fuel

13:11

into X33 to go up into space and

13:14

come back. Composite

13:17

tanks of liquid helium, liquid hydrogen.

13:20

And so that was cancelled after 2001. This

13:23

is in popular science by the way, 2003. So

13:26

with three failures we

13:28

kind of wonder about fuel. I

13:31

think everyone should have that question in mind. Fuel

13:33

is not necessarily the way to get transportation. And

13:36

furthermore, as you might know already,

13:39

as we get into the late

13:41

2000s, 2010, we're past Hovers Peak. We

13:45

passed it years ago with the United States

13:47

and now the world peak is expected

13:51

anytime now. And likely in 1970,

13:53

US peak, it never returns

13:56

to that high volume of production. Oil

13:59

production is constantly changing. decreasing. I

14:01

have lots of charts and graphs when I talk about future

14:03

energy to prove such a thing. So

14:06

we're on our way out and in 2002 on CNN I was

14:08

trying to warn the world

14:11

but of course they didn't listen. But

14:14

the impending oil crisis was

14:16

really what I was seeing

14:19

and of course many experts had already anticipated

14:21

that and were warning about it. But

14:24

hopefully the change of administration is going to

14:27

cause us to really look at

14:30

newer technologies, new energy technologies

14:33

and clean technologies as well. And

14:36

that's where the back engineering concepts also

14:38

help. At our Institute,

14:40

my Integrity Research Institute, is

14:43

dedicated to energy research and education

14:45

with scientific integrity. We also

14:47

sponsor conferences and books

14:49

and reports, some available

14:52

after presentation. And

14:54

the efficacy for the common good without favoritism

14:56

is very important especially when you're

14:58

looking to maintain our nonprofit

15:01

status. Well

15:04

the projects in future energy that are

15:06

related to UFOs are

15:08

four major topics. And

15:11

as I developed this talk over the past

15:13

several years I started to realize,

15:15

oh maybe I have one topic, maybe I have two.

15:18

Well it turns out there's actually four. And

15:20

these are areas I've already been interested in but

15:23

I didn't realize until I looked at the

15:25

history of what I've been through how

15:27

intimately involved with the UFO

15:30

community and UFO technologies they

15:32

really are. Well since you're

15:34

in California let's start with the California

15:38

basis for UFO activity

15:41

in the 1950s. This is

15:43

Giant Rock of course and it's

15:45

George Van Tassel's story which he

15:48

wrote a book called When Stars Look

15:50

Down and he also had a small

15:52

restaurant with his wife at Giant Rock

15:54

pictured here on the left. And

15:58

little known to people 30 years later 40 years

16:00

later, actually, the space

16:03

conventions were held in the 1960s at Giant Rock.

16:08

And of course, the interesting part about it, from

16:11

my point of view, is that he also developed

16:14

some technology. And the

16:16

technology comprises EM

16:18

therapy or electromagnetic therapy, and

16:21

specifically the construction

16:24

of the Integrotron, which is shown here and

16:26

also a few more pictures

16:28

we're going to show as well, embodies

16:32

an inverted Tesla coil, a

16:34

high voltage broadband

16:37

frequency device. And

16:40

in Flanders, California, Biefield

16:43

Boulevard, Belfield Boulevard, you

16:45

can actually go visit the Integrotron. And

16:47

I'm happy to report that on June

16:50

20th to 21st, there's a sound healing

16:52

event happening on the weekend. So

16:55

Integrotron.com is the website.

16:58

And I'm happy to promote this because it's really a nonprofit

17:01

endeavor by two nursing sisters

17:05

who have dedicated themselves to preserving

17:07

this building. There are very

17:10

few structures in the world

17:12

that can be traced back to

17:15

UFO contactees. And

17:17

the Integrotron is one, and maybe

17:20

the primary, foremost one. And

17:23

what's fascinating about it is not

17:25

only the upper resonant acoustic chamber,

17:28

no nails were used in the construction at all,

17:31

but as you sit in the very center,

17:34

which I have, so is my wife pictured

17:36

there, we basically

17:39

are forced into what

17:41

is kind of like an almost

17:43

deafening experience. All the

17:45

sound you emit comes right back to you.

17:49

So it's the center of a circular

17:51

hemispheric chamber that

17:54

has no other echoes except right

17:56

inside your head. So it's a

17:58

very fascinating effect. And,

18:01

plus we have underneath the integratron

18:04

these primary and secondary Tesla coils.

18:07

So you kind of get the impression that

18:09

the structure itself

18:12

is intended to amplify any

18:15

ambient electromagnetic frequencies. And

18:18

where would they come from? Well,

18:21

specifically, they're coming from the atmosphere.

18:25

And if I had more time, or

18:27

if you were interested, the book called

18:29

the Bioelectromagnetic Healing book that I wrote

18:32

specifically shows the spectrum of

18:34

the Earth's ionosphere cavity. And

18:37

it's fascinating that human resonances

18:39

at 8 Hz and many other frequencies all

18:42

are available constantly, even

18:44

out in the desert, for amplifiers

18:47

and for sensors like this that would

18:50

drive the primary and secondary coil from

18:54

electricity from the

18:54

air.

18:57

And why would a person possibly

18:59

do that? Well, the purpose specifically

19:02

is a rejuvenation chamber. And

19:04

this is what George told us for years.

19:07

I used to get his newsletters in the 1970s. He

19:12

said that he was told how to

19:14

design this from the ETs, and

19:17

that he also relied upon George

19:19

Lekovsky, Townsend Brown, Nikola

19:22

Tesla, and of course the ETs

19:24

for directions on how to build

19:26

it. And the idea was

19:28

that people who would spend time in there would

19:31

have a rejuvenation effect. Well,

19:33

to me, for years, I wasn't really sure

19:36

if this was true or not. I

19:38

kind of took it on faith and was

19:40

curious about his dedication to the project.

19:43

I mean, he died literally trying to finish it.

19:47

And other people finished the last part of it. It

19:50

went through a lot of change of hands, but today

19:52

it's in its same original form. Very

19:55

few things need to be done to accept

19:57

maybe the Tesla coil design to complete

19:59

it. But still the question

20:02

is why. Well, here's the answer.

20:05

As I studied it further, Nikola Tesla is one

20:08

scientist that he relied upon heavily for

20:11

the design. And what's interesting,

20:13

I grew up in the western New York area in Buffalo, in

20:16

which 1896 actually received and was

20:20

the first city to have electric

20:22

streetlights thanks to Niagara Falls. And this

20:24

was Tesla's premier

20:29

project to specifically

20:32

generate electricity from falling water

20:34

and to show it could be transmitted

20:36

over high distances. Twenty

20:38

miles was a big distance back then. And

20:41

the other amazing thing, which answers our question,

20:45

is what do you do with the electricity when

20:47

you can finally plug a Tesla coil right into the

20:49

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20:51

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20:53

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22:00

like oh well this didn't work this way or whatever but

22:02

like that's that's fine You know

22:04

what I mean like expect to see some videos

22:07

where we try something and we you might not see it

22:09

again Or you might see it in six months,

22:11

but it's it's kind of a

22:14

a break from the whole like okay You made a show

22:16

can you make it? Ten episodes yeah,

22:18

can you make it for three months or something like

22:20

that and it's very loose. It's

22:22

very You know we just come in we bounce

22:25

ideas off of each other It's it's very

22:27

much like oh, that's great, and we start like prepping

22:29

it and throwing it together, and it's been overwhelming,

22:32

but I think we've

22:34

all been looking forward to to like even

22:37

the announcement right like dog bar It's not even out

22:39

yet. I mean the kid the channels up and the trailers out But

22:42

you know we're not releasing videos yet again That's

22:44

October 2nd, but it's just such a relief

22:46

to finally like have it in front of the world

22:48

right It's been so much fun coming

22:50

up with like the designs and the names

22:53

and the colors and the vibe I mean we've

22:55

we've reworked this thing ten times probably

22:58

right gone through for the longest time

23:00

I had no name then I had another name,

23:02

and then we changed it And it's just I

23:04

don't know it's been a process is something I have

23:07

never really gotten to do in all my time here right

23:09

like I've I've done stuff Like

23:11

I've been involved in she went over so long, but obviously came after

23:13

it started and you know I helped

23:16

create face Jam as you did with red web,

23:18

but this is like a whole different Yeah, you know

23:20

I mean is like not just like

23:22

a podcast show like it's a big

23:24

thing And like as

23:26

Joe was saying it's nice to just go

23:29

anything we make it's it to

23:31

not put it into a bucket of Okay, this is

23:33

this is like that view this it's dog bark

23:36

everything is dog bark Yeah, that's just kind of the easiest

23:38

way to describe it right like all the dog

23:41

bark show Even when we when we get to

23:43

the uploads right which again? Fuck

23:46

it's gonna change or something right now right

23:48

like full uploads are gonna be Mondays and Fridays and

23:51

then we're gonna have Kind of like

23:53

the patreon model basically

23:55

just have exclusive weekly first

23:57

videos where you get a video on Monday

24:00

You're gonna get a video on Friday. If you're a first member, you're also

24:02

gonna be doing Wednesday and Saturday. And it's just

24:04

like, you can come to expect that, but they're not

24:06

gonna be the same videos every week. There's no like,

24:08

this is, you know, the slot.

24:11

The only thing is, a video is coming out. There's no Minecraft

24:14

slot. It could be a video game, it could be

24:16

like a green screen thing, it could be whatever.

24:19

Shit we haven't even thought about yet. Kind of the stuff

24:21

that we really enjoyed making and we wanna put

24:23

out, like, oh, we want people to see that. Cause there are

24:25

a ton of stuff that we filmed and we all really

24:28

liked actually filming and

24:30

like fucking around and just joking with each other. But

24:32

then when we look at it, it's like, ah, didn't

24:34

really work. Okay, what do we do next? And then we

24:37

move on to another thing, you know? I'll say,

24:39

like the things we've already done too, whether we make

24:41

something out of it or not, it's just been so nice

24:44

where, like you were saying we've been trying stuff. Like,

24:46

oh, what about this one thing? And then that's splintered

24:48

into four, four other little

24:50

ideas. And just to be able to have,

24:54

not that we're not doing things with like the company and

24:57

it's still a whole and still interaction with all the other departments and

24:59

everything, but it is certainly more of a focused, I've

25:01

been saying in all the meetings where we've been

25:04

trying to explain what Dogbark is to

25:06

the people in this company and without

25:08

being able to properly, it's kind of a thing where you

25:10

go, you just gotta see it. But there was nothing

25:13

for them to see. I've

25:15

been saying, just lock us in that room and throw

25:18

away the key. Because it really

25:20

hearkens back to, for me, an

25:22

earlier time where it's just like, everyone

25:24

in this room, it's just, they do everything. You're gonna

25:27

come up with it, you're gonna shoot it, you're gonna,

25:29

we're not gonna edit it. But we're gonna, it's

25:31

just kind of like, we're siloed in

25:33

a way of creativity, right? Where like,

25:36

dude, in the best way, because I haven't done

25:38

this in forever, just doing some Dogbark

25:40

stuff in the last week or two, there was probably like three

25:43

days I went home at like seven o'clock. And I'm like,

25:45

that's awesome. Because we

25:47

lose track of, because again, we were doing

25:49

the Cheebunner stuff, we're doing Let's Play stuff, we get the Dogbark

25:52

stuff, and I remember going like, ah, it's 5.30, I

25:55

wanna try this thing, but I wanna make people stay late, and everyone's

25:57

like, I wanna give a shit. Like, I'm just so excited

25:59

to shoot this thing. And

26:01

again, that's not to say like Jared's making his work like he is.

26:04

He didn't want me to say it. He

26:07

still finds time to go to all his concerts. Somehow

26:09

he's in it. We're over there working away and he's

26:11

going to see with Tanisha's D, with my wife. But

26:16

it's just that feeling of I stayed

26:18

late today and like you said, I didn't even keep

26:21

track of the time because we're so invested

26:23

and we're so excited. It's just the whole process

26:25

of it. And again,

26:27

not that I haven't had that with Achievement

26:29

Hunter. I've always had that. It's just

26:32

even in the structure of itself, I used

26:34

to come in and make videos by myself. I would edit them by

26:36

myself and I put them out. And just the nature

26:38

of everything just slowly changed. Where

26:40

like I still get the exact same passion

26:42

and excitement out of videos for Achievement Hunter. But it

26:44

has to fit into a box where like is everyone here that

26:46

we need? Do we have all the things downloaded?

26:49

There's so many things that have to fall into place.

26:52

And this has kind of removed a lot of that where

26:55

it's like, oh, hey Joe, I have an idea. You want to do a

26:57

bunch of this shit? Yeah, okay. We can just

26:59

do it right now. Boom. And that's kind of what I want

27:01

the whole thing to be. Everyone just come

27:04

in with what they have and the four

27:06

of us just have really good chemistry and

27:08

we're on a similar wavelength. Not

27:10

that we always agree, but it's already

27:13

been awesome. It's just been great. And

27:16

I'm really excited about it. And again, I'm really thankful

27:18

for all the people that have already positively

27:20

responded and for all the people who maybe it's not your

27:22

cup of tea but you're willing to give it a shot. I

27:24

can't wait to get it rolling and like have

27:27

friends come in and like guest and stuff

27:29

and hop around. But it's

27:32

kind of the sky's the limit right now and

27:35

we're just kind of – we're

27:37

a little bit ahead of the curve, but we're very much still figuring

27:39

it out. You're going to watch us figure it out. We

27:42

don't have like six months of content filmed.

27:45

I mean, we're in the light. Maybe we should. Maybe

27:47

we should. No, but seriously,

27:50

that's why I just wanted to be candid about what it

27:53

will be out the gate and how it will kind of ebb and flow. But

27:55

if you really want a general idea, we're kind

27:57

of doing this adult swim. public

28:00

access TV with bright colors that

28:03

I mean I don't know I'm

28:05

just very excited for the vibe shift there

28:07

is a little like a minted wiggles I

28:10

also don't want any

28:12

of our excitement for this new thing to have in any

28:14

way a backhanded relationship towards the

28:16

past no it's not like I'm so poor I'm here baby

28:22

again yeah it just became like the perfect

28:24

time where oh yeah all the four of

28:26

us specifically being kind of on the same page

28:28

and the four of us specifically being

28:31

you know the main force still an achievement hunter it just

28:33

kind of slowly became like do we want to

28:35

try something new do we want to start sudden

28:38

setting achievement on her and try something new and we were all

28:40

in agreement and we and like you

28:42

know we were told time and time again like come

28:44

up with a clear vision you know so

28:47

many pitches and meetings yeah

28:49

and we really fought

28:53

for it and I'm thankful to Rooster Teeth

28:55

for letting us do it because it could've just said no

28:57

yeah oh my god yes absolutely um but

29:00

yeah in no way was like I hated achievement

29:02

hunter even though that's the first thing I say when

29:04

Jeff asks me in the I think that burnout video goes

29:06

so why I don't want to do it say

29:10

a lot of things like well I didn't

29:12

mean it like this I'm looking forward to maybe

29:17

people finding this that don't know who we are

29:20

or never seen anything and go

29:23

that's weird yeah

29:27

yeah honestly if someone watches the video goes that's

29:30

weird well that's a that's good yeah

29:32

that's the whole vibe of dog bark right like

29:34

even in our like all the meetings we've had and everything

29:37

leading up to this

29:38

when it someone asked us to describe what we

29:40

wanted to do it was really hard to just put

29:42

it into words and put into concise like and

29:44

like make it concise and clear put it in marketing language

29:47

oh yeah it's

29:48

just there's a part because very dark

29:50

bark is is it's taking all the crazy

29:53

shit that's in all of our heads that we all spitball to each other

29:55

all the time yeah and actually putting that like

29:58

on a screen and like filming it and doing it to But

30:01

like you said, we're still figuring it out. We

30:03

don't exactly know what that is, but it's

30:05

something that we all really love doing,

30:07

and we've all really had fun trying

30:10

all these little things. I

30:13

can kind of put it this way,

30:14

that

30:15

if you've been watching just the Shiman Hunter

30:17

or Let's Play recently in the last, like this

30:20

year, we watch off-topic, beyond

30:23

me and my amazingly

30:25

impossible, genetically

30:28

impossible physical transformation. It's

30:30

also been, hmm, what? It's

30:32

also been like, if you've noticed,

30:35

like, oh, Michael's dressing

30:37

this different, dressing that different. It wasn't

30:39

like, I'm gonna do this for a dog bark, but the two are

30:41

the same. So as we've

30:43

been coming up with dog bark, I've been embracing

30:46

my dog bark, and I feel

30:48

like I've been running dog bark for

30:50

the last – at least two, three months, right,

30:52

with like just my different

30:54

styles, just a lot of people going, I'd

30:56

never expect Michael to do that. That's dog bark,

30:58

Michael, which is also my new handle, by the way,

31:00

because I think I'm the only person that had an AH. Dog bark,

31:02

yeah. I had to change that immediately. Dog bark,

31:05

Michael. Not everywhere, because I only – Justin

31:07

wins five. I'm only a change-it-wear at an AH. I'm

31:10

a change. But like – Well,

31:12

now it can be more of a surprise. Ah, Michael!

31:15

Yeah. For me, for me, it's very easy

31:17

to be like, oh, 2023? That's dog bark, Michael. And

31:20

that's like all the things I'm already doing

31:23

in my own life, and like, I don't

31:25

know, kind of my personal changes in

31:27

growth I've had is like going

31:29

hand in hand with dog bark to me. It's kind of

31:31

me blending my personal life with my work

31:33

life, which is something, obviously, we already

31:35

do anyway at this job. But I

31:38

don't know. I really feel like this is a great – like,

31:40

I kind of expect some people, when they see an announcement

31:43

for dog bark, to go, that's why I got in shape. No,

31:45

not really. The point inside. The point. It works out,

31:48

though. It works out. It works out. The urge to evolve.

31:51

You got to listen to it. It's kind of like evolving a

31:53

little bit, seeing it and going, oh, I should

31:55

lean into this. Yeah. And that's gone

31:57

so well with dog bark. Yeah. And I'm just – again,

31:59

I'm just really happy. and just

32:01

how accepting people have been of it. Do

32:03

we? Let me ask this. A huge

32:06

part of me is tempted to just kind of spill our own beans

32:08

and be like, here are a few specific

32:10

video ideas that we've had that I don't

32:13

know when they'll come out, some of them might not come out,

32:15

I don't know, but just to give a better kind

32:17

of feel for what the channel can look

32:19

like. Because I'm impatient. Because even

32:21

when we launch, only one video will be out that day

32:23

and then you gotta wait a little bit and then the next day and then the next day. Oh,

32:26

we should say too though. So we were gonna have, again,

32:28

kind of expect this first,

32:30

basically, much like Patreon, if you wanna support

32:32

us, like the best way possible,

32:35

subscribe on YouTube, like and comment,

32:38

but then beyond that, it would be sign up for first at

32:40

Roost Your Teeth. And so we're gonna have, as

32:42

of now, the weekly Wednesday and

32:44

Saturday videos for first. The first week of Dog

32:46

Bark, October 2nd, they're all gonna go public. Just

32:49

so you can see it. Just so you can get a little sampling. So

32:51

you'll get a Monday, Wednesday,

32:53

Friday, Saturday video. But then right into that

32:55

second week, that Wednesday and Saturday is

32:57

gonna be first. And again,

33:00

it's not like a traditional, this

33:02

is a first show, you have to sign up for

33:05

it. Or like trying to kind

33:07

of get people to sign up to

33:09

watch that show. It's more,

33:11

hey, we really appreciate the

33:13

support and this is the extra content

33:15

we're gonna provide for you. It's not gonna be a huge

33:18

over the top show. It's not gonna be trucked

33:20

up, but it is gonna be weekly content you're

33:22

gonna get every single week. And I'll say this like right

33:24

off the bat, I'm pretty sure we're doing it. You're gonna get a podcast,

33:27

that's gonna be one of them. It's

33:29

not gonna be a whole big to do. In my head,

33:32

it's more like the Sunny podcast,

33:34

where it's just kind of us at our desks, kind

33:37

of casually talking, even more casual

33:40

than this, where we'll be able to like talk

33:42

about stuff that we saw online, talk about, we'll be at our computers,

33:45

right? It's kind of the idea of like, oh, stuff

33:47

like, it's just gonna be a lot

33:49

more, because as much as I love the show, it is

33:51

a production. It's huge, it's a huge production. And

33:54

we're basically, we're gonna

33:56

come up with a, a first

33:59

only podcast. Just to kind of say,

34:01

hey, if you want a little peek behind the scenes, we'll

34:05

probably talk about stuff that we did that week. I

34:07

don't know. Again, much like Commander in the Chief, it's

34:09

kind of hard right now to say how different it is going to

34:11

be than this show. It's like, oh, you're just going to do off topic

34:14

behind first. It's going to be a completely different

34:16

show. And it's not a thing where

34:18

you go, oh, that's bullshit. You're

34:20

like putting that behind a paywall. It's like

34:22

you can look at it that way. But again, it's

34:24

more, this is like

34:26

the reorganization that we're doing right now, and

34:29

this is more wanting to give

34:32

every single week to the people that support us

34:34

the most. Not like a huge show every

34:37

couple months or a 10-pill show, which

34:39

is great. I love those. But

34:41

like for us specifically, just the four

34:43

of us to go, here's our public content. And

34:45

if you're a first member, here's your first content.

34:48

Right. And hopefully you really enjoy it. Discord,

34:51

some extra dog bark content, a way to support

34:53

us 100%. There's no middleman. Like, I

34:55

fucking hate like, you know, whether it be Twitch or YouTube

34:58

or whoever the fuck else, there's

35:00

a split involved. Like, it is based on what you watch

35:02

on our website when you're a first member that supports

35:04

us 100%. There's a whole lot

35:06

of metrics that people smarter than me have. Yeah. I've

35:09

written down that I could explain to you, but

35:11

the simplest way is it's more better.

35:14

It's just more better. It's just

35:16

more better for us. That's

35:18

a good way to say it. More better.

35:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I mean, you'll also

35:23

see like extended cuts of certain things or deleted

35:25

scenes from certain things, things that are less polished

35:27

that were like whatever. You were saying we shot some stuff

35:29

on Friday, like that we

35:31

could again, the other beauty of it too

35:33

is how like kind of piecemeal this stuff is, is we don't have

35:35

to make a whole video. We don't have to make something

35:38

and go, is that long enough? It's like we got 20 seconds

35:41

or 30 seconds is really fucking funny. But

35:43

it doesn't fit somewhere. And we now have a way

35:45

to just like add it to other things and

35:48

make dog barks. Yeah. Again,

35:50

that's it. It's just like, there's no, this show

35:52

doesn't fit with that show. Yep. It's just

35:54

all kind of dog bark. But my

35:56

point is we were doing a thing and in what we

35:59

were filming, we're like, We got it, we got what we needed. But

36:01

then you had another idea, we

36:03

were like, oh, what if we do this? And immediately it's like, oh, that's

36:06

funny, but it'll be too

36:08

long. And we're just like,

36:10

oh, that could be extra content. We can just

36:12

put that up for first. Stuff like that

36:15

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why do you think, again,

36:59

I just keep going back to the people who

37:01

I know are not stupid, I

37:03

know really love the Lord. Why

37:06

do you think this is one thing, even

37:08

beyond just scoring points, this is the thing that trips

37:11

people up, black and white Christians alike.

37:13

And it's almost like you can't

37:16

even really have a conversation with some

37:18

of them. There's a debate going

37:20

on right now as we're recording this about the

37:22

Florida curriculum saying that some

37:24

slaves, after they were freed, benefited

37:27

from some of the skills that they learned

37:29

while enslaved. Does not say slavery was

37:31

good, doesn't say slavery was justified, or anything

37:33

like that. It notes that fact. And

37:35

I'm seeing Christians, conservatives,

37:38

just, I mean, not, just

37:40

talk past each other, and not even be

37:42

able to get on the same page here. It's just really

37:44

baffling to me how, on this thing,

37:47

it seems like we can't talk objectively, we can't

37:49

talk truthfully, and we can't talk biblically.

37:53

You know, I'm

37:55

tired of it, to be honest with you. I don't

37:57

have patience for it.

38:01

Listen, I have lived for the last eight

38:03

years in Lusaka,

38:06

Zambia,

38:07

and

38:09

I know for a fact that

38:12

God used

38:14

that horrible

38:16

time and period

38:18

of history to

38:21

bring me to a place of blessing.

38:24

And I can acknowledge that. I

38:27

have absolutely no shame in

38:30

acknowledging that. I'm

38:33

able to be here and to be a blessing in

38:35

large part because of

38:39

God's providence in my life generationally

38:42

that took me away from here, mainly

38:45

because my black ancestors sold

38:48

me, right? And

38:51

I'm able to acknowledge that. And

38:54

I think what we have to do is we've

38:57

got to just stop, right? We've

38:59

got to say enough. We've

39:01

got to call people to account. And we've

39:04

got to stop letting people make

39:06

us feel guilty about things

39:08

that we haven't done, about things

39:11

that we've had no part in, about

39:13

things that nobody we know had

39:15

any part in. Enough already. Yeah.

39:18

Yeah. I'm tired of it too. I'm

39:21

tired. You're

39:52

not talking about some of the other names

39:54

that we hear paraded out

39:57

by activists and by the media. You're

39:59

talking about some... named Tony Tempah. Why

40:01

do you bring up Tony Tempah's name in this curriculum?

40:03

I

40:05

do bring it up and several people have

40:07

talked to me about that and they say, you got

40:09

me. Because you

40:11

know the way I tell the story,

40:14

it sounds like I'm

40:16

talking about George Floyd.

40:19

But I'm actually talking about

40:22

Tony Tempah, a man whose name

40:24

most people don't know, who

40:26

was killed by the police in a way

40:29

very similar to what

40:31

happened to George Floyd, but

40:34

was actually much more sinister

40:36

and vicious than what

40:39

happened to George Floyd. But of course we don't

40:41

know his name because Tony Tempah is white. And

40:45

that's the point that I make in the book and also

40:48

I'm able to make it a very different way in

40:51

the video curriculum that I hope

40:53

sort of brings it home for people. Yeah.

40:55

The fact of the matter is, you

40:58

know, every one of these instances

41:00

that we talk about, I

41:02

mean, you know, you name it,

41:04

Tamir Rice, George Floyd,

41:07

you know, you

41:09

name them. And I can point to at

41:13

least one and probably multiple

41:16

non-black people, multiple white people

41:18

to whom the same thing has happened.

41:21

Yeah. And people forget about that. And

41:24

when you bring it up, a lot of people just

41:26

don't know. They don't realize that. They've

41:28

kind of bought into the media narrative that this only

41:30

happens to black people. I think

41:32

of Justine Damon too. She was also in

41:35

Minneapolis. She came out to talk

41:37

to a policeman. She was, you know, just

41:39

a young white woman from

41:42

Australia. She walked out to talk to the police officer

41:44

in her pajamas about a report that

41:46

she had just made. And the police officer, who

41:49

was a black police officer, shot her point blank,

41:51

killed her, only got 12 years

41:54

in prison, obviously, obviously a lot less

41:56

than what Derek Chauvin got. And most

41:58

people, as you said, don't know.

41:59

the story of Tony Temple. They don't know the story of

42:02

Justine Damon and in a lot of cases

42:04

they don't feel the same

42:06

compassion and they

42:08

don't want to bring it up. I guess scoring

42:11

points out of fear, whatever but at the end of

42:13

the day, that's

42:14

the kind of partiality that

42:16

God says that he

42:17

hates. Like

42:18

that's the kind of discrimination

42:21

and justice that God pours, right?

42:25

Exactly. That's unequal

42:27

weights and measures. When we have

42:30

a narrative that we're committed to, when

42:32

we have a picture in our mind

42:35

and when we are convinced

42:38

of it and

42:40

we decide that anything to the contrary

42:43

has to be dismissed and anybody

42:45

who brings up anything to the contrary has

42:48

to be dismissed. That's not

42:51

an honest discussion which

42:53

is ironic because I keep

42:55

hearing we need to have a conversation about

42:57

race which I mean what

43:00

else have we been having a conversation about my

43:02

whole lifetime, right? And

43:05

so you bring things like this

43:08

up and all of a sudden it's like well not

43:10

a conversation that includes that. So

43:13

I again I'm

43:16

done with it. It's time to just

43:18

tell the truth. It's time to have

43:21

honest discussions with honest people

43:24

and call out those who are not being honest.

43:27

I'm curious just your experience. You grew

43:29

up in South Carolina, right?

43:31

No, I grew up in Los Angeles. I

43:33

did defend a year in South Carolina.

43:36

Okay.

43:40

Yeah, so when I got old enough

43:42

to find a little trouble in South Central Los Angeles,

43:44

my mother shipped me out and I went and lived for

43:47

a year with her oldest brother,

43:49

the retired dress drug truck to the Marine

43:51

Corps. Yeah, right. Okay, I knew there was

43:53

a South Carolina tie in there. So South Carolina,

43:56

California growing

43:58

up, you've talked about your story,

43:59

on a previous episode of this podcast

44:02

that we can listen to if people want to hear about it. And

44:05

as you said, you lived the last eight years in

44:07

Zambia. I'm just curious

44:10

before I get into some other things in this curriculum,

44:12

like can you compare and contrast a

44:14

little bit? Like what is the perspective

44:17

of oppression and justice and

44:19

things like that from the

44:21

people that you know in Zambia, actual Africans,

44:25

from the conversation

44:27

about race and oppression and history here

44:29

in the United States and privilege

44:32

and all of those things? I mean, it's got

44:34

to be pretty different, I would guess.

44:37

It's very different because this

44:39

is a very homogeneous culture. It's

44:42

interesting, you know, being an American and not

44:44

only an American, but a Houstonian, right?

44:47

I spent most of my life in Houston. I was born in Los Angeles

44:50

and ended up, you

44:52

know, going to high school in Texas and

44:54

college in Texas, spent my adult life in Texas.

44:57

And so most of my life in Houston before

44:59

moving here. And a lot of people don't

45:01

know this, but Houston is the most

45:04

ethnically diverse city in America.

45:08

And so going from the most

45:10

ethnically diverse city in

45:12

one of, if not the most ethnically diverse countries

45:15

in the world to a place

45:18

that is anything but

45:20

diverse, it

45:23

was really quite shocking for

45:25

me. And so those kinds of discussions

45:27

are very different. Now here, you

45:30

hear more discussions

45:32

about globalism and,

45:35

you know, post-colonialism

45:38

and those sorts of things. And

45:41

you hear a lot more classical Marxism here

45:44

as well, as opposed

45:46

to the kind of, you know, neo-Marxist,

45:49

someone say cultural Marxist ideologies

45:52

that have been dealt with there. You hear a

45:54

lot more sort of classical Marxism here,

45:57

holding sway with people. Those are Fidel

45:59

Castro. street. You

46:02

see pictures of Che Guevara on the back

46:04

of, you know, the bus in here. Why

46:07

is that? I know this is kind of maybe off-topic,

46:09

but, you know, that's strange. Where does that come

46:11

from? Yeah, especially

46:14

when you know how racist

46:16

against black people, for example,

46:19

Che Guevara was. You

46:22

know, whenever people have

46:24

experienced any

46:27

kind of real oppression,

46:30

a lot of African countries, Zambia, for

46:32

example, only got its independence from

46:36

Great Britain in 1964. Whenever

46:38

that happens, you

46:41

know, Marxism sounds

46:44

really good when you first

46:47

sort of break free from something like that. And

46:50

the Marxists are always very quick to

46:52

get their foot in the door. And

46:55

so, you know, places like Russia

46:57

and other places like that are

46:59

very quick to sort of get their foot in the door in

47:02

places like this. So,

47:05

you know, I mean, there are a lot of reasons for it. Yeah.

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A lot of the background here, a lot of sort

47:11

of tribal and collectivist

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Well, the physicians who studied this.

53:59

of the American Electrotherapeutic Association.

54:29

Years

54:32

later, they actually noticed it had highly

54:34

beneficial results with cancer. And this

54:37

is a quote from Dr. Gustav Kultur

54:39

in 1932.

54:41

And so I sponsored a conference,

54:43

or institute sponsored a conference in 2003 to

54:47

celebrate the 1903

54:49

wireless transmission of power that was supposed to happen

54:52

as Tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower was

54:55

erected on Long Island.

54:56

And the book that was written in commemoration

54:59

of that is called Harnessing the Wheelwork of Nature,

55:01

Tesla's Science of Energy. And

55:05

these are some of the circuits that are in the

55:07

Tesla article I just pointed to from 1898, published

55:11

in The Electro Engineer. You see

55:13

there's a liquid bath with

55:15

two electrodes that a person would, this is a

55:17

patient's body by the way, the star, I just added

55:19

the red star to focus your attention

55:22

on where the person would stand or sit. Figure

55:25

one is actually allowing the

55:28

currents to flow through your

55:30

skin over the, in contact every part of your skin. The

55:35

figure two shows a magnetic coupling,

55:38

so your whole body is exposed to high frequency

55:40

magnetic fields. And then the

55:43

figure five, which is actually the most popular

55:45

way of doing it, has the Tesla coil

55:48

secondary electrode being

55:50

in close proximity to the body. So

55:52

you get all the electricity but not

55:54

necessarily the amount of current

55:56

that you would in these other modes.

55:59

And then let's use that. two different electrons. So

56:03

this was developed to quite a degree

56:06

and surprisingly as

56:08

the early 1900s went on

56:11

all of a sudden the AMA and the FDA stepped

56:13

in. There's literally a consortium

56:15

of both but let me at least finish the

56:17

Tesla promotion

56:20

by stating his quote here, body

56:22

of a person may be subjected without danger

56:25

to electrical voltages vastly

56:27

in excess of any producible by ordinary

56:30

apparatus and they may amount to several

56:32

million volts. Has been

56:34

shown in practice and the surprising

56:37

thing for years as I read that several million

56:39

volts I was thinking my god that

56:41

seems like incredible voltage it's got to be dangerous

56:44

you know I mean how would anybody

56:46

withstand that you know so

56:48

but I came up with an answer and to

56:50

me it's fabulous it's so surprising you'll

56:53

be surprised too. Now tissues

56:55

are condensers is a very famous quote

56:57

of Tesla's and I have a footnote

57:00

here indicating it's now called capacitors.

57:02

Now these are like parallel plate charge storage

57:05

devices and you see that when you're

57:07

hooked up as I have one to show a

57:10

small Tesla coil device your

57:12

whole body all of a sudden becomes charged

57:14

up to the same voltage and you can light

57:16

a light bulb exactly like Tesla did

57:19

with your hand and these are

57:21

the kind of devices that became available

57:24

within a few years after Tesla

57:26

promoted them and they

57:28

tended to use the noble gas

57:31

like argon or neon or krypton or

57:33

xenon in the tube

57:35

that's connected to it and you see another one

57:37

here with an electrode and a handle being

57:40

applied by a physician and

57:42

the interesting combination of that is

57:44

first of all the gas provides the resistance

57:48

so the electricity doesn't have a high current coupling

57:51

to your body but also you get a lot

57:53

of energy from the noble gas you

57:55

get some visible frequencies and

57:57

there's some theories nowadays that

58:00

the noble gas itself transmits

58:02

some very interesting connections.

58:05

And I threw this extra endorsement

58:07

by the Hydropower Commission of Ontario,

58:10

because they actually endorsed the Branson generator,

58:13

the Branson Jr. as well,

58:15

back in the early 1900s.

58:18

I think this is like 1925 or so. Okay,

58:22

now the burning question is, why are millions

58:24

of volts safe for the body? Well,

58:29

turns out that cell membrane, which

58:31

you see at the top here, this is the

58:33

best rendition that science

58:36

poster you can get online from a science

58:39

supply house for schools, can provide.

58:42

The cross-section view of your cell

58:44

membrane. Every cell in your body has

58:46

all of this photo-fossil lipids

58:49

and various proteins, transmembrane

58:51

proteins. Now, the interesting thing here,

58:54

the membrane itself is that thick. It's

58:57

basically on the order of nanometers.

59:00

And we're looking at the fact

59:02

that the voltage

59:05

normally across there, across the transmembrane,

59:08

in other words, transmembrane voltage, is 7200

59:10

millivolts. Well, that

59:12

may not seem like very much. Millivolts is real small,

59:15

so why even consider it? It even showed

59:17

up here, 100 millivolts across. Well,

59:20

it turns out that when you have such a small

59:22

distance, you can take voltage over

59:24

distance, and guess what you get? 100,000 volts

59:28

per centimeter, or 10 million

59:31

volts per meter.

59:33

Bingo.

59:34

We now understand why Tesla

59:37

was right. Because

59:39

the cell membrane likes to

59:42

produce 10 million

59:44

volts per meter. One

59:46

meter is about three feet, 10 million

59:48

volts across it. Hey,

59:51

that would be pretty dangerous across one meter.

59:54

You know, I could be electrocuted. But

59:56

your cells are not electrocuted. These

59:58

things are tremendous insomni-

1:00:00

They're natural dielectrics that

1:00:02

want that voltage. They want the voltage

1:00:05

gradient to be as high as 10 million

1:00:07

volts per meter, or in other words, the

1:00:10

smaller voltage per smaller distance. But

1:00:12

it's the same voltage gradient. So when you

1:00:14

get exposed to a Tesla coil of

1:00:16

millions of volts, your cells

1:00:18

just get all happy because they got it all charged up.

1:00:22

And I've seen it. I've literally seen people

1:00:24

sit next to a Tesla coil. And all of

1:00:26

a sudden, especially if they come in like this, you know,

1:00:28

there's something wrong, they have some health challenge,

1:00:30

and they're really low energy. And they sit there

1:00:32

for a few minutes. Hey, they're energetic,

1:00:35

and we get all kinds of endorsements and letters.

1:00:38

And people that sell the full-size,

1:00:40

six-foot-tall Tesla coil devices,

1:00:43

they get lots of cure anecdotes.

1:00:48

So this is a fantastic

1:00:50

discovery. We're rediscovering electrotherapy

1:00:53

that's been known 100 years ago, and

1:00:57

everyone sort of forgot about it. But

1:00:59

now, I think, we have,

1:01:01

and doctors that I know that are using this, we

1:01:04

all believe that there's greater hope for

1:01:06

its adoption. And this

1:01:08

is exactly what Vantassil was saying,

1:01:11

too. You know, he knew the technology

1:01:13

should work. He didn't understand why.

1:01:15

Tesla was the same way, but now we

1:01:17

have the scientific explanation. So

1:01:20

there's a lot more hope for the medical profession

1:01:23

to make the transition from pharmaceuticals

1:01:25

that have tons of side effects to

1:01:27

electrotherapy, which literally has virtually

1:01:30

none. It's hard to find

1:01:32

side effects of these, and that's

1:01:35

one beautiful benefit. It's

1:01:38

so compatible with natural things. Lukovsky

1:01:40

was mentioned as an interest of Vantassil,

1:01:42

so I thought I'd show you what Lukovsky did. He's

1:01:45

actually reviewed in my book, Bioelectromagnetic

1:01:47

Healing. And there's a company that actually

1:01:50

sells a Lukovsky multi-wave oscillator.

1:01:53

That's what MWO stands for.

1:01:54

It's efforttechnology.com.

1:01:57

And I give credit to the company.

1:01:59

for doing that because they pursued for

1:02:02

years offering this technology to

1:02:04

the public and it follows this is an original

1:02:07

diagram from Lekosky's

1:02:10

patent, the original patent that Lekosky

1:02:13

designed and got. U.S.

1:02:15

patent 1 9, whoops, let's

1:02:19

see

1:02:19

if I can back up here, 1 9 6 2 5 6 5.

1:02:20

And

1:02:24

he wrote a book, Secrets of Life, he wrote another book, 1949,

1:02:27

The Waves that Heal, and the 1925

1:02:30

article from Radio News is probably

1:02:32

the most astonishing. Because

1:02:34

once again, the interesting application

1:02:37

of curing cancer with a device

1:02:39

like this is also endorsed.

1:02:43

Now, years later, 1983, I

1:02:45

was able to obtain these spectrum pictures.

1:02:49

There's also one for kilohertz that's in my book as

1:02:51

well, but to show you the fact that this

1:02:53

is unusual. This type

1:02:55

of device, whether it's the Lekosky

1:02:58

multi-wave or it's another Tesla type device,

1:03:01

it's a broadband multi-frequency

1:03:04

device. To give

1:03:06

you an idea of what we're talking about, because a

1:03:08

lot of people can't appreciate even what these grabs

1:03:10

mean, is that it's like going

1:03:13

to the store

1:03:15

and finding only one type of bread, and

1:03:18

it's white bread and happens to be wonder bread. And

1:03:20

yet you were looking for an assortment

1:03:22

of multigrain. Well, we don't sell that. We

1:03:24

only sell them. It's like Henry Ford,

1:03:27

any color you want as long as it's black. Well,

1:03:30

that's pretty much what we get. We get 60 cycle

1:03:33

all the time. And we get 1 megahertz

1:03:35

frequency from maybe the dominant

1:03:38

cell tower that's near your house. You're

1:03:40

getting bombarded with a limited bandwidth

1:03:43

of frequencies, and you're getting overdosed

1:03:45

because it's usually 24 hours a day. Instead,

1:03:48

if you sit next to one of these, you're getting

1:03:50

kilohertz, megahertz of frequency. It's

1:03:52

literally like a big waterfall

1:03:54

of all the energy frequencies the body

1:03:56

could ever want. And the interesting

1:03:58

thing I discovered, is that it turns out

1:04:00

to feed biophotons. As

1:04:03

the cell DNA

1:04:06

in your nucleus gets all these frequencies, it

1:04:09

charges up. And then it can shoot

1:04:11

out these special type of photons,

1:04:13

called biophotons, that are transmitted

1:04:15

with almost no attenuation throughout

1:04:17

your entire body. It's faster than your

1:04:19

nervous system, literally. So you

1:04:22

actually have a communication

1:04:24

system that gets charged from these types

1:04:26

of high-frequency baths, even

1:04:28

going out in sunlight. Everyone

1:04:31

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1:04:33

sunlight every day, or at least twice a

1:04:35

week, because it'll charge up your DNA. The

1:04:39

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1:04:41

whole research project of bioenergetics

1:04:44

is that electrons are the active

1:04:46

ingredient called antioxidants. When

1:04:48

you take an antioxidant, it donates an electron

1:04:51

to kill the free radicals. And the free radicals

1:04:53

gobble it up and stop multiplying. And

1:04:57

so there's lots of basic

1:04:59

research that's proven this, free radical

1:05:02

steel electrons. If

1:05:04

you take a shower, for example, under

1:05:07

unfiltered water, not many people

1:05:09

buy shower filters, but you should. And

1:05:12

the main thing is, if your water is being chlorinated,

1:05:15

then you're getting a chlorine bath as

1:05:17

you take that shower. And each chlorine

1:05:20

atom, because chlorine disassociates

1:05:22

at body temperature. It's in every organic

1:05:24

chemistry book. And as it dissociates,

1:05:27

it creates a free radical. It's CO minus. And

1:05:29

as it gets absorbed in your skin, it multiplies

1:05:31

about 10,000 times. So

1:05:34

it creates 10,000 free radicals from one atom.

1:05:38

So yeah, it's a serious aging

1:05:40

issue. And that's another

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thing I love sharing with the audiences, because

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not many people know this is a major cause of

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aging. And then we kind of see,

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well, maybe George Fantassel was right. There's

1:05:52

a direct connection here now between what he

1:05:54

thought rejuvenation was all about and

1:05:57

what the science now is indicating.

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For example, here's a very interesting title. Dying

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before their time studies of prematurely old mice

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hint that DNA mutations

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underlie aging. And

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mitochondria suffers from the same problem. So,

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this and much more is contained in the Bioelectromagnetic

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Healing Book. And as I indicate,

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something to take with you, short-term exposure

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to high-voltage strengthens immune system. Long-term

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exposure is chronic and should be avoided.

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Well, the devices that my institute

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developed basically involve

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larger, this

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was a suitcase style, Tesla coil. It

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took me a couple of years to find a way to put high-voltage

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into a box. But

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we sold a few of those and I feel that it was easier

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and more beneficial to have a smaller

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device, which we call the Premier Junior, almost

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like the Branson Junior, to

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be available to the public. And I made

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sure that it's well insulated. So,

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you can't get shocked from any part than the noble

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gas tube itself. And here's a doctor,

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a friend of ours that has one, and

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very happy with his effect on the arthritis

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that he has in his shoulders. And

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of course, I even got involved in an electric chair, but

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nope, I couldn't call it that. I had to call it

1:07:19

the energy chair. So, as

1:07:22

a matter of fact, this is the prototype with a Tesla

1:07:24

coil underneath, and then essentially connected

1:07:27

to a couple of static maps that are

1:07:29

on the armrest. And that's enough for

1:07:31

you to literally do the famous

1:07:34

Tesla experiment which is pictured

1:07:36

here, take a fluorescent bulb in your

1:07:38

hand, and it lights up. And

1:07:40

that's the exciting part about high-voltage. Your

1:07:43

whole body immediately gets up to that high-voltage

1:07:45

right away. And

1:07:47

it's a recreation of what they called that auto-condensation

1:07:50

couch, which remember, it

1:07:53

was figure one where somebody would actually lay on a

1:07:56

type of a bed, whether it's liquid or not.

1:08:00

actually available years ago. And

1:08:04

even yogis say electricity can heal the body.

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Electricity and rays are finer in nature than

1:08:09

solids or liquids. Therefore

1:08:11

a more subtle force for healing, says Yogananda.

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Well, why would I mention Yogananda? Well,

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as a matter of fact, only three miles from

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Integratron is giant rock, as you know. And

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this is a link to our second UFO project,

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permanent magnet motors. Turns

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out that the experience I had

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in 1980 was to get

1:08:32

a postcard for this book called Sunburst

1:08:34

Return of the Ancients by Norman Paulson.

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And I was curious about the book enough

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to buy it, and then as I read about it, the

1:08:42

first half was all about his years with Yogananda.

1:08:45

There's his picture right there, and there's the Astry

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Yogananda. And then the next half

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was all about UFOs. So I was

1:08:51

thinking, this is the strangest book I've ever read.

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Two diverse topics combined together. But

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hey, that's his life. And

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I was also very curious about

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these kind of reports.

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Here's probably one of the best photos

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That's interesting. You know I think about we have friends from

1:10:46

Zimbabwe who became

1:10:48

citizens a couple years ago and of course

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she lived there under Robert Mugabe who

1:10:53

was I mean he was a communist and a lot of

1:10:55

the things that he told the people

1:10:57

of Zimbabwe are very similar to like

1:11:00

the things we hear today that

1:11:03

the white people here you know they

1:11:05

stole your land, they're the reason

1:11:07

you're poor, they're the reason that you're oppressed

1:11:10

and so we need to basically get rid

1:11:13

of these white

1:11:13

immigrants who are here and commercially farming

1:11:16

and so they did. They shut down

1:11:18

a lot of the farms that were run by white people

1:11:21

and in a lot of cases that included

1:11:23

violence but the problem

1:11:26

was is that Zimbabwe went from the breadbasket

1:11:28

of Africa and this very industrious place

1:11:30

with a lot of commercial farming to almost

1:11:32

no commercial farming and going even

1:11:34

more deeply into poverty. Robert Mugabe

1:11:37

of course using all the resources that he

1:11:39

had to enrich himself and not

1:11:41

share it with the people at all and yet

1:11:43

he came into power promising that he

1:11:45

is going to enact vengeance and justice

1:11:48

on behalf of the indigenous Zimbabwean

1:11:50

people and to get the colonizers

1:11:53

out and to give them health care

1:11:55

and to you know get the indigenous

1:11:57

people health care. I'm like wow that sounds like

1:11:59

America and now we see where Zimbabwe is,

1:12:02

tons and tons

1:12:04

of corruption and

1:12:05

poverty, the

1:12:07

idea is always into the same way.

1:12:10

There are neighbors to the south. Yeah. We live

1:12:12

just to the importance of Zimbabwe and

1:12:14

you know you're telling that story and I'm sitting

1:12:16

here thinking two legs bad, four

1:12:19

legs good, right? Yeah.

1:12:21

It's Animal Farm. It's Animal Farm

1:12:23

all over again. I tell people

1:12:25

all the time, you know, the two most, well

1:12:28

the three most important books you could be reading right

1:12:30

now are the Bible, Animal Farm and 1984,

1:12:32

right? I mean, we're

1:12:35

seeing those things. This

1:12:38

movie has played before, right?

1:12:40

We know where this ends.

1:12:42

Yep,

1:12:44

totally. Another book

1:12:46

that people need to read and this is the

1:12:48

title of one of the sessions. The

1:12:50

session number, well I guess it's,

1:12:53

yeah,

1:12:54

session number four that discrimination

1:12:57

or disparities do not equal,

1:13:00

they don't automatically prove discrimination.

1:13:02

Thomas Sowell wrote a book, Discrimination

1:13:05

and Disparities, which I highly recommend

1:13:07

people read, but this is also like

1:13:09

a quick and easy way for people to

1:13:12

get also what Thomas Sowell said and what

1:13:14

a lot of people said. So what does this mean? That disparities

1:13:16

don't equal discrimination, this blows

1:13:19

people's mind.

1:13:21

Yeah, it really does

1:13:23

and it shouldn't because

1:13:25

there are disparities everywhere,

1:13:28

right? When we talk about equality,

1:13:31

we're talking about people having equal

1:13:34

value and equal worth

1:13:36

and equal dignity before God and

1:13:40

in the US, for example, in the West

1:13:42

before the law as well, but

1:13:45

we're not talking about people having equal

1:13:48

gifts, talents and abilities and

1:13:51

therefore expecting equal outcomes.

1:13:54

There are disparities and

1:13:56

there are disparities everywhere. disparities

1:14:00

in achievements, academic

1:14:03

achievements and economic achievements between

1:14:06

first born children and second

1:14:08

born children in the same family,

1:14:11

in the same household. So

1:14:14

yeah, there are a lot of reasons for disparities.

1:14:18

And there are a lot of disparities that we don't really care about.

1:14:21

For example, the NFL

1:14:24

and the NBA are what, 65 and 75% black respectively?

1:14:31

That's a disparity. But

1:14:33

it's a disparity that we're okay with.

1:14:36

So we don't automatically

1:14:38

say that that is the result of discrimination.

1:14:43

But we need to recognize things like

1:14:45

this that are obviously

1:14:48

false if you just take a

1:14:50

few seconds to think about them.

1:14:52

Yeah, a lot of people I've realized don't want to

1:14:54

take a few seconds to think about here's

1:14:56

the uncomfortable thing. And I got into a conversation

1:14:58

with a Christian, like

1:15:00

a prominent Christian that everyone would know if I said their name

1:15:02

about this a few years ago. And I brought

1:15:05

this up that discrimination or disparities

1:15:07

don't automatically mean discrimination.

1:15:10

So people say that a lot. Oh, the

1:15:12

graduation rate, the test score, whatever

1:15:15

their disparities between black and white Americans

1:15:17

and that proves systemic

1:15:19

racism and oppression and things like that. And

1:15:22

when you say, well, it doesn't necessarily

1:15:24

prove racism, there could be a variety of

1:15:26

factors for that. And the same way that there are a variety

1:15:28

of factors for the disparities

1:15:31

between Asian Americans and

1:15:33

white Americans, Asian Americans being on average

1:15:36

wealthier, higher test scores and all that than white Americans.

1:15:39

They will

1:15:39

say- And Nigerians, by the way. Yes. And

1:15:42

Nigerian Americans.

1:15:43

Yes. Like non-white

1:15:46

Americans are doing better

1:15:49

overall than white Americans on average. But

1:15:52

again, as you were saying, it's only the disparity

1:15:55

between white Americans and black Americans that we're supposed

1:15:57

to focus on and assume that it has to

1:15:59

do with discrimination.

1:15:59

and racism. And then the question that I got,

1:16:02

which then it gets into this kind of like emotional

1:16:04

thing is, well, if

1:16:06

it's not racism, if it's

1:16:08

not the system, then you must be

1:16:10

saying that there are

1:16:12

like, innate vulnerabilities

1:16:15

or innate in capabilities in black

1:16:17

people that prevent them from

1:16:19

being as successful as white people. So if it's not

1:16:22

discrimination, you must just think that

1:16:24

black people are inherently inferior.

1:16:27

But to me, I mean, that's a false choice, right? There

1:16:29

are a lot of

1:16:30

factors that are coming to play. Yeah.

1:16:33

Falsy of the excluded middle,

1:16:35

right? There

1:16:37

are other possible answers.

1:16:40

It doesn't have to be innate.

1:16:44

In fact, in most

1:16:46

of these things, these

1:16:48

disparities aren't necessarily

1:16:51

innate. When you look at cultures,

1:16:54

and this is something that people don't want to do, which

1:16:56

is ironic again, right? All this talk about

1:16:59

cultures, we have to respect cultures,

1:17:01

we can't appropriate cultures, we

1:17:04

have to acknowledge cultures, and so on

1:17:06

and so forth. And then when you talk about

1:17:08

the differences between cultures,

1:17:11

because of the

1:17:14

way that cultures function, and

1:17:16

the things that cultures emphasize,

1:17:19

now all of a sudden, people don't

1:17:22

want to have that discussion. Again,

1:17:24

let's have that serious discussion about race.

1:17:27

Okay, fine. Let's talk about these issues.

1:17:29

No, not that serious discussion. Only

1:17:32

the serious discussion that plays

1:17:34

by the ground rules that says everything

1:17:37

has to be explained by racism.

1:17:39

Yep.

1:17:40

Yep, it does. Because if you

1:17:43

start talking about those uncomfortable things,

1:17:46

then that is basically saying that

1:17:48

black people have agency and that's I realized you're

1:17:50

not allowed to say, you're not allowed to say

1:17:53

that black people have agency that

1:17:55

they are individuals, just like the

1:17:57

rest of us that they have autonomy that

1:17:59

they have the ability To make choices. I realize

1:18:01

like that is the blasphemous thing

1:18:03

that you are never even allowed to

1:18:05

imply in these conversations

1:18:07

That was yeah, but you but you but

1:18:10

you are

1:18:11

not only allowed but expected

1:18:14

to imply them when you talk about athletes

1:18:17

and entertainers When you talk about

1:18:20

black athletes and entertainers Then

1:18:22

people want to say no. No, no,

1:18:24

we're the best because we work harder The

1:18:27

last thing they want you to say is that it's innate

1:18:29

right? No, no, no, no, we

1:18:32

we we we work harder We put in more

1:18:34

time, you know, so on and so forth

1:18:37

Then it's okay to have those

1:18:39

discussions and it's ironic

1:18:42

because all you have to do is just just just

1:18:45

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1:18:48

all of a sudden the rules change

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So to Ali,

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I really level of extra content where

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we'll have regularly more to

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offer to the people who want the most. We'll probably

1:20:12

experiment on first two. Exactly.

1:20:14

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Team 100 had like two full

1:20:16

channels and at a certain point, both channels were

1:20:18

essentially daily. And so like, no

1:20:20

matter how much you try to record, there's only so

1:20:22

much time in the day for everyone to edit and film and be there

1:20:25

and whatever. So like, it almost became like,

1:20:27

if it's recorded, it ships. And like

1:20:30

everything went from like record to channel, record

1:20:32

to channel. And so now there's like a little bit of room in

1:20:34

there to like reflect and experiment and

1:20:36

try and put it out and listen. And it, you

1:20:38

know, I'm very, very eager

1:20:41

to toy around with this thing and continue

1:20:43

to find our footing.

1:20:45

Yeah. I mean, I think like when it comes

1:20:47

to the extra content that we're planning to do for,

1:20:50

for first and stuff, it is nice

1:20:52

to be able to show people kind of the inner workings

1:20:54

of our, like our minds and our process, because

1:20:56

it lets them like kind of really deep dive into

1:20:58

the content that they truly love. That's why they're supporting us

1:21:00

at first. I

1:21:03

don't know. It's just cool to be able to like show people that

1:21:05

because I think like YouTube,

1:21:07

like content creation just as a whole in

1:21:09

the last few years has really exploded.

1:21:13

But you don't really ever get to see

1:21:15

inside of those moments. And so

1:21:18

like us being able to provide that and actually be like,

1:21:20

Hey, we can record this extra

1:21:22

thing that we did for an hour, but it's not going to go to the

1:21:24

main thing or whatever, like just showing them. We did this for

1:21:26

an extra hour. Here you go. Like that's exciting to

1:21:28

me personally, because I love that stuff. I

1:21:30

mean, that's like my favorite part of, of

1:21:33

us doing dog bark is all the experience

1:21:35

experimentation we're doing and how

1:21:39

free, like how freely we can

1:21:41

think about doing this one thing and not putting ourselves

1:21:43

in a box or, or tying

1:21:45

ourselves to these rules. Um, yeah, I don't

1:21:47

know, man. Like it seems so small, like that extra

1:21:50

content to me is really exciting to be able to show people like

1:21:52

how we do things and why we're doing it. Yeah. It's

1:21:55

again, I don't, when I say this, I'm

1:21:57

just getting ahead of it. I don't mean to, you know.

1:21:59

back-handedly say anything about Achiever

1:22:01

Hunter or this last year, but like... I'm

1:22:04

just like super stoked. The

1:22:07

guidelines, Trevor. Stick to the talking point. I'm just... I'm

1:22:10

just super stoked to be invested again. To lose

1:22:12

track of time, to be here at 6.30 and go, Oh,

1:22:15

shit, I forgot what time it was to

1:22:17

be inventive again. You forgot to feed Barbara. I

1:22:19

forgot to feed Barbara. She's just swimming around in her bowl. Um,

1:22:24

just like a lot of that, you know? And,

1:22:26

um... And to kind of have no expectations

1:22:29

for ourselves, even, because the thing hasn't

1:22:31

existed yet. It's just... It's been really

1:22:33

nice and refreshing. And, like... And you've seen

1:22:35

each of us over these past couple years. Like, you

1:22:38

know our comedic dispositions. Um,

1:22:40

like, you're still gonna feel pieces

1:22:42

of my creative inspiration. Like, the shows

1:22:45

that I've made, like Ready Set Show or Outdoors

1:22:47

or Egg Jeopardy. Like, you're still gonna see a

1:22:49

lot of that DNA be pulled upon because that's

1:22:51

just how I make shows. Yeah.

1:22:54

And you're still gonna see a lot of, uh, that

1:22:56

disposition from... I'm blanking on this show. Don't

1:22:59

make a scene. From Joe. Because

1:23:01

we fell in love with that format. And

1:23:04

so we... I would argue, too, you're gonna get

1:23:06

Joe even talking more about North Korea. If

1:23:09

that's what you like. More. You're

1:23:11

gonna get it. I'm talking about a more. I'm saying

1:23:13

you already have been. I mean, inherently, Ray old was. The jump

1:23:15

from Achievement Hunter to Dogmark, Joe's talk

1:23:17

of Korea and North Korea has gone up exponentially.

1:23:20

All right, so, yeah, and so, like... So you're gonna... Don't

1:23:22

think you're gonna miss that. I mean, that's a Trevor's point,

1:23:24

right? It's like, it's, uh... My

1:23:27

time at Achievement Hunter

1:23:28

was awesome. The community welcoming...

1:23:31

Oh, you're gonna shit on it, too? Go for it. Now you hate

1:23:33

it. I'm not gonna shit on it. No. I'm

1:23:36

not gonna backhand it. Here I go. It's

1:23:38

not backhanded. It's just,

1:23:40

like, the... For me, Dogmark is just

1:23:42

different because, like you said, it hasn't existed before.

1:23:45

It hasn't existed before. It's a brand-new thing. We're

1:23:47

starting it from scratch. We're not born

1:23:49

yet. Yeah, and, like... I'm born to shit. You

1:23:52

know, I was a Borden's Hell creator

1:23:54

that was doing stuff solo before

1:23:56

I came to Achievement Hunter,

1:23:58

and

1:23:59

for me, it's just... For me it was personally

1:24:01

a challenge as a creator to jump into something

1:24:04

that already exists with a lot of chemistry between

1:24:06

people who have been together for years and years and years

1:24:08

and know a lot of the history of it. And

1:24:11

it was a challenge. And I loved

1:24:14

being part of that challenge. It challenged myself to grow

1:24:16

and be different and also kind

1:24:18

of evolve my comedic style. But

1:24:22

yeah, it's not that really I felt confined

1:24:25

or I couldn't be myself. It's just that

1:24:27

there were certain aspects to

1:24:30

Achievement Hunter that were different

1:24:34

than what I did in my own personal

1:24:36

stuff. You kind of got to find the right avenue

1:24:38

to do that. And that was a lot of us like

1:24:40

the Majin Joe. It's like something

1:24:43

that can exist. You have to find,

1:24:45

honestly, just like where can this go on the schedule? Where

1:24:48

can we find time to film this? Do we have the

1:24:50

space? And we've removed a lot of that

1:24:52

kind of stuff. It's not like you're putting

1:24:54

on a mask and you're being a different person. It's just like

1:24:57

there's so many moving parts that you have to find where

1:24:59

you can navigate through all of it. And so

1:25:02

starting from scratch and

1:25:04

building the dog bark up from the ground up, it's super

1:25:07

exciting because I feel like for

1:25:09

me personally that I can just do

1:25:13

anything I want to do. And

1:25:15

it's not like you

1:25:18

can't compare it to anything because it's not like

1:25:20

anything we've done. It's just like I

1:25:22

get to do that and it's really exciting for me personally

1:25:25

to just be able to do that. Yeah. Like

1:25:27

a little less pressure. Yeah.

1:25:30

It's like less pressure. From your perspective versus diving

1:25:32

into something like that at all this momentum.

1:25:34

Yeah. Well, because like when you like if

1:25:37

you think about it, right, there's everyone here

1:25:39

is just like they're so fucking talented

1:25:41

at what they do. And I've never been surrounded by that.

1:25:43

I've never had that. All that my world was

1:25:45

surrounded with were individuals

1:25:47

who were up and coming or trying to

1:25:50

like make it a content creation world. And then there

1:25:52

is the one that point one percenters who are just

1:25:54

above like everyone else. And like I felt like

1:25:57

I jumped into a world where it was just everyone

1:25:59

was like. Joe oh, yes That's

1:26:05

what I thought right like don't be into it like with

1:26:07

with the shoe hunter You guys are all so

1:26:10

fucking great what you did and I'm

1:26:12

still finding out who I am as a creator Yeah

1:26:16

But I mean this let's explore it. I

1:26:19

think I think you're 100% correct. I think

1:26:21

that With the

1:26:23

guide rails blown apart. There's no formats

1:26:26

really right like it's brand new Like it gives us

1:26:28

a chance to explore new creative avenues

1:26:31

And try new things and again pieces

1:26:33

of it are gonna feel familiar Pieces of it are gonna

1:26:35

feel wildly different and I keep kind of comparing

1:26:38

it to I think I already said this but like adult swim

1:26:40

Not so super far down that lane, but like

1:26:42

a little bit Tim and Eric

1:26:44

You know Eric Andre kind

1:26:46

of like a little bit in that realm a piece

1:26:49

of my mind just forever lives in that comedic style

1:26:52

You know your Zach Galifianakis between two

1:26:54

ferns like I don't know It's just like it's part

1:26:56

of my core DNA, but I

1:26:58

don't know I think one thing that we've talked

1:27:00

to

1:27:01

I guess marketing about

1:27:03

because like this was us not only self-reflecting

1:27:06

on like okay What is our thing trying

1:27:08

to also tell the company? What is this thing,

1:27:10

but like one piece that I think?

1:27:12

That kind of helped us

1:27:14

Find it was like us asking ourselves questions

1:27:16

challenging ourselves like what if we did this or

1:27:19

like could we do that? Could we get away with this

1:27:22

or like imagine a world mask if

1:27:24

we wore a mask you do anything with anything? Yeah, just

1:27:26

and gloves don't forget the gloves and like

1:27:29

and so we talk a lot about the green screen because that was

1:27:31

our latest Shiny toy basically

1:27:33

by the time that we were doing the trailer, but again

1:27:35

like what if we did? You

1:27:38

know whether it be improv or a video game

1:27:41

But use the tool of the green screen to

1:27:43

bring a different element to it

1:27:45

Again, I don't know how much how specific we want to get but

1:27:47

like I'm just super stoked on one of the ideas in particular That

1:27:49

we have is like play a game Merging

1:27:52

in the element of green screen and like

1:27:54

the game is the backdrop to a comedic more

1:27:56

stuff like just a little taste And something

1:27:58

that if you think about this now if you watch

1:28:00

it when it came back. This was 100% dog

1:28:03

bark because we were still making a G-Man under, we

1:28:05

were still making a Let's Play, but we

1:28:07

only have so much time where

1:28:09

we can't just, okay, now we're going to do dog bark stuff.

1:28:12

So we would do a little dog bark stuff

1:28:14

like bad barks, but putting

1:28:16

it in a G-Man under and just kind of seeing how it worked

1:28:19

and how the reaction was or whatever. And 100%, something that we did

1:28:22

was like, this is dog bark, was the

1:28:24

Euro truck simulator. There you go. Where we

1:28:26

were like, I was driving the truck and it

1:28:28

was like a two hour stream and it was just off

1:28:31

the rails and you

1:28:33

guys were coming in as characters and it was very

1:28:35

little about the game. It just sort of supports

1:28:38

the- The game was the foundation for- Kind

1:28:40

of like how Halo was machinima

1:28:43

for RVB. Honestly, yeah. That's kind of

1:28:45

like we had Euro truck simulator, but it wasn't really

1:28:47

about that. That just kind of set it up. That

1:28:51

is like something we want to do again and recreate

1:28:53

and things like that. But that's the

1:28:55

kind of stuff we've been, if you saw that and she went

1:28:57

on her and went, what the fuck is this? That's dog

1:29:00

bark. That's what that was. That was like, they don't know.

1:29:02

It's dog bark. Obviously it won't be two hours of streaming

1:29:05

because that creates a different energy, but you

1:29:07

condense that down into the highlight moments, into

1:29:09

the main moments. It kind of has a story to

1:29:11

it. If you look at that and went, this is so weird. Where

1:29:13

did this come from? That was us making this.

1:29:16

That's where it came from. The creative genesis

1:29:18

had moved to dog bark as our

1:29:21

physical forms were still kind of recording.

1:29:24

But at the same time, we were like, we can't just make

1:29:26

dog bark now. Totally. It'd be insane.

1:29:31

And then also it would kind of shoot ourselves in the foot.

1:29:33

If it's like we made dog bark out of she monitor

1:29:35

for five months and then ended it and then started

1:29:38

dog bark. And it's the same. It wouldn't feel

1:29:40

different. Yes. And so we did

1:29:42

the best we could to like try little experiments here

1:29:44

and there or film things on the side.

1:29:47

But that's just like the easiest thing I can point to where if you're

1:29:50

like if you want to see the beginnings of it, it's

1:29:53

that because we're already like deep

1:29:55

into it at that point. Yeah, I made that stream. It's

1:29:58

been a while. It's been I would say most of the

1:29:59

It's been a while since

1:30:02

I've been here.

1:30:27

Immediately

1:30:30

I went, oh, do I have a sinus infection again? The worst

1:30:32

is like at night and in the morning. The day is

1:30:35

fine. But I've

1:30:38

not been feeling well since kind of like Friday night, Saturday

1:30:40

and Sunday I was like, ugh. Barely

1:30:42

been eating. So by the way, I'm back to cutting.

1:30:44

Like I'm going to look great. It's really

1:30:47

unhealthy cut though. Right, but what do

1:30:49

you want me to do? I'm sick. What would you like me to do?

1:30:51

Not be sick? Eat some food, man. What would you like me to

1:30:53

do? Not be sick? I would love to not be sick. This

1:30:55

is how my body is reacting to my illness. I'm

1:30:58

going to take the pros with the cons, Joe.

1:31:00

I'm going to look lean. You're

1:31:02

also going to take those steroids. Here's what I did.

1:31:05

Well, I put them inside my food. No,

1:31:08

he's not. I like

1:31:10

how you said it like I am. No,

1:31:12

he's not. Well, I also. Here's

1:31:16

what I decided to do to ease back into my not

1:31:18

eating while I'm sick. I eat Taco Bell. Whoa.

1:31:22

It wasn't even like steroids. The food though. It

1:31:24

wasn't even like, oh, I

1:31:26

farted and I thought I was going to fart. It was just like hummed

1:31:28

it out. Oh, I shit my pants. Dude, it was like, it was

1:31:30

just like that. I haven't had Taco Bell in months. So

1:31:34

I'm in my bathroom washing the shit

1:31:36

out of my pants before I throw it in the washing machine.

1:31:39

Literally the shit out of your pants. Oh, it

1:31:41

was just a little.

1:31:42

But who laughed? It got to your pants.

1:31:45

Who laughed? It's all under it. Oh, got

1:31:47

it. When you say you shit your pants, I assume most of the time

1:31:49

it's your underwear. But when you're washed

1:31:51

it. Right. So I shit myself

1:31:54

senseless. Had to go upstairs because I thank

1:31:56

God for a bidet. Make cleaning your shit

1:31:58

pants so much easier. I got done.

1:32:00

I'm all I'm all refreshed and ready to go I'm

1:32:03

not just gonna throw underwear with

1:32:05

like shit in it in the washing machine. That's

1:32:07

right. You're gonna throw it in the fire Yeah, no, I'm gonna read

1:32:09

along first. Yeah rinse it and

1:32:11

then throw it in the water No, you're in the way chicken. I

1:32:13

don't I don't have a habit of shitting my pants

1:32:16

It's a good some guys you want to throw shit in

1:32:18

the wash. No, you want to want to know what it out

1:32:20

What are you throw it out? Yeah, I don't ever have

1:32:22

kids Trevor. Uh, there's poop on it.

1:32:24

No, no way. Bye kid Exactly.

1:32:27

Exactly. Now you get it. So Lindsay came in and

1:32:29

I'm washing my underwear and they're like, what are you

1:32:32

doing? They go. I shit my pants. They're

1:32:34

done. They say oh, where are you? Oh, yeah.

1:32:36

Yeah in my bathroom No master bathroom in

1:32:38

the city rush yet. Yeah, absolutely

1:32:41

Trevor again I don't know what world you

1:32:43

live in bodily fluids come and

1:32:45

go. I mean for the water. I also I also

1:32:47

don't click the sink I also have in the toilet. It doesn't

1:32:49

matter. It doesn't matter. I couldn't use

1:32:52

the bathtub. It doesn't matter. I don't know. I don't

1:32:54

care I'm washing it.

1:32:56

I'm not I'm Lindsay goes. Oh, I gotta show my

1:32:58

pants like yeah, huh? And I go I

1:33:00

should my pants and they're like, oh my oh my god.

1:33:02

Yeah, I thought you're joking I'm so sorry. I'm like was to be

1:33:04

sorry about it. It's shit though

1:33:07

It's gonna be sorry about it done and

1:33:09

then I threw it in the washing machine. I don't want I

1:33:11

want a new gym I don't want shit. I don't want shit

1:33:13

particles floating around in the washing machine.

1:33:16

Yeah, so I rinse them down the drain You remember this

1:33:18

I don't want other clothes Jim

1:33:20

because I shit my you blew out your trunks

1:33:22

so bad you needed to find a new gym, dude

1:33:25

I put a picture of you on the bulletin board and said this man

1:33:28

shit is pain went down I was

1:33:30

doing I was doing dumbbell bench. Okay, I

1:33:32

went down. I went down you got a place your court

1:33:34

It just a

1:33:35

little bit came out dude. I didn't realize

1:33:37

until I was done with my set. Whoa It

1:33:40

felt like nothing. It felt like nothing

1:33:43

But turned out I had

1:33:45

some stomach issues going on that that that

1:33:47

same day I think that same day that I shit myself

1:33:49

at the gym. I went to the ER from the office

1:33:57

You shit yourself so bad you went to the ER

1:34:00

It was an urgency. On

1:34:02

my way to this very podcast, I

1:34:04

took a safety squat. I went to the toilet

1:34:07

and I threw my legs back and I

1:34:09

said, Jesus, take the wheel. Basically,

1:34:12

I just had a danger

1:34:14

fart and I knew it was going to be productive. I

1:34:17

just didn't know how bad it was. See, again,

1:34:19

I wasn't that at all. I was just like, so anyway, no,

1:34:22

I think I just show my pants. It was one of those.

1:34:24

It was a real sick shit. That's why I describe it. Like,

1:34:26

I'm sick and then I hit toggle bell. I'm just

1:34:28

going, this is happening. Yeah, I know.

1:34:30

Yeah. And so

1:34:32

again, that God was at my house. See, I miss

1:34:35

eating toggle bell, but I don't miss the after effects of toggle

1:34:37

bell.

1:34:38

It doesn't usually bother me. I

1:34:40

still don't show you how much

1:34:42

of a nexus and a magnet it was

1:34:44

for UFOs during daylight hours.

1:34:48

The ship over giant rock, people are casually

1:34:50

walking backward and forward, but here the

1:34:53

smart deputy sheriff takes the photo and

1:34:55

preserves for history, for posterity, the

1:34:59

amazing phenomenon. Now,

1:35:01

this to them apparently

1:35:04

was so commonplace as

1:35:06

George Van Tassel apparently was the contactee

1:35:09

that kept pulling in, who knows,

1:35:11

pulling in these ships, but it was a repeated phenomenon.

1:35:14

I've talked to eyewitnesses who had been

1:35:16

there and remember seeing UFOs

1:35:18

more than once at giant rock.

1:35:22

And lots of different ways that we know today

1:35:25

for what they call vectoring and telepathically

1:35:27

attracting. But

1:35:30

certainly this is very unusual

1:35:32

to see. And also to me,

1:35:34

technologically, this is also revealing

1:35:38

in terms of the light effect below the

1:35:40

craft as being different than surrounding

1:35:43

above it and to the left and right. So

1:35:45

this is indication of some anti-gravity

1:35:48

force that has this extra

1:35:52

fluorescence or light

1:35:54

emission, which we can

1:35:56

kind of suspect for most UFO lighted...

1:36:00

saucers. They perhaps have

1:36:02

that connection between light emission and anti-gravity.

1:36:08

Well, what attracted me to this was

1:36:10

this particular passage. Here's

1:36:12

Paulson quoting what he claimed

1:36:15

was an elder that was the ET

1:36:17

on the ship. He had an experience

1:36:20

on the ship and he's told that

1:36:22

the outside parameter of each disk, which was the

1:36:24

size of the ship, carried 12

1:36:26

magnets and he said they could draw

1:36:28

off electric current from the central

1:36:31

hubs and generating

1:36:33

perpetual flow of electric energy. Who

1:36:35

doesn't like a perpetual flow of electric energy? Well,

1:36:39

we all do, of course, and I laid it up.

1:36:42

And the interesting thing was two of them together,

1:36:45

turning in opposite directions, created the anti-gravity

1:36:48

effect. So we have a combination

1:36:50

that's ideal for space travel. It's

1:36:54

transportation force and also electricity

1:36:56

and that's the artist's rendition of what we just saw

1:36:58

on the phone of what the

1:37:00

ship actually looked like. And

1:37:02

the strange thing is, and I still can't

1:37:05

explain it this day, Norman Paulson blesses his

1:37:07

soul. He passed away last year. He

1:37:09

took this passage out of every single

1:37:11

edition afterwards. That

1:37:14

first edition Sunburst Return of the Agents, there's

1:37:16

only a few used copies on Amazon available,

1:37:19

is the only one that contains these words. Apparently

1:37:22

he thought and he was told that mankind

1:37:24

wasn't ready for this technology. Well,

1:37:28

I think they are and I think the world is ready too

1:37:30

and we better have it sooner than later. But

1:37:33

the nice thing was I kind of got real excited

1:37:35

back then because here I am basically 30

1:37:38

years old and thinking I'm going

1:37:40

to go back to my university professor

1:37:43

at the University of Buffalo, Suni

1:37:45

of Buffalo, and convince

1:37:48

him that I got a project to work on for my master's

1:37:50

degree in physics, which I did. And

1:37:53

there's the generator I actually built and

1:37:55

that's in my homopolar handbook.

1:37:58

So as one of the few

1:37:59

guys in graduate school that actually

1:38:02

convinced a professor of something to do. And

1:38:04

so I still kept my independence. My independent

1:38:07

frame of mind was not tainted by

1:38:09

the, you know, coercion and the

1:38:11

hypnosis that most grad students

1:38:13

get when they finally get filed out of

1:38:15

the programming

1:38:18

that really is serious when

1:38:20

you get to the standard model and

1:38:22

what science accepts and what it doesn't accept

1:38:24

and all that's impossible. So I

1:38:26

was able to avoid a lot of it and keep

1:38:29

my freedom of thought. Needless to say,

1:38:31

I have to be very honest, that the

1:38:33

single homopolar, which is a circular,

1:38:36

we're talking about a circular 12-inch magnet,

1:38:40

very similar to what the earth has at the core,

1:38:43

develops back torque as it generates

1:38:45

current. So that slows it

1:38:47

down. So I was hoping based

1:38:50

on Bruce De Palma's work, who basically

1:38:52

was hired by the Sunburst community to build

1:38:54

a $25,000 Sunburst

1:38:56

machine, he claimed

1:38:59

that you could avoid back torque by doing

1:39:01

certain things with the magnetic field. Since

1:39:04

I measured the back torque, I can say that this particular

1:39:07

single homopolar generator, which

1:39:09

was invented by Faraday back in 1831,

1:39:13

is not necessarily the weight of free energy.

1:39:18

However, it's got a life of its own and

1:39:20

back then Edgar Mitchell became

1:39:23

interested, astronaut Edgar Mitchell, he

1:39:26

got interested in investing in the De Palma

1:39:28

machine and there's the De Palma

1:39:31

creation of a motor and generator combination,

1:39:33

which he thought would run itself. Well,

1:39:37

Edgar was smart, he kept his money in

1:39:39

his pocket right there and he

1:39:42

hired a consultant, a physics engineering

1:39:45

professor to write a short discourse

1:39:48

on the Faraday generator, the homopolar

1:39:50

generator in other words, and essentially

1:39:53

what is known about it. So

1:39:55

he saved his money and as De Palma

1:39:58

kept building these, they essentially didn't

1:40:00

run themselves. And the

1:40:02

interesting thing is, and this is probably

1:40:05

a prophetic cover of Extraordinary

1:40:07

Science from 1994, on

1:40:10

the cover we also see the Searle disk. Some

1:40:13

people may or may not know about John Searle, John

1:40:15

R. Searle. I met him

1:40:17

in 1980 as well when I went to Hanover,

1:40:20

Germany to give the talk that Bruce

1:40:22

De Palma was supposed to give in Germany.

1:40:25

And I essentially talked about the homopolar that

1:40:27

I was going to build, but I got to meet John Searle

1:40:29

as well. So I didn't

1:40:32

think the two were related. I didn't

1:40:34

think either one had common technology,

1:40:37

but they do. And to tell you the truth,

1:40:40

John Searle, who developed this, that's

1:40:43

one of the better renditions of the Searle

1:40:45

disk, he had missing time as

1:40:47

a kid and then started building

1:40:50

these devices and disks, as

1:40:52

you see. And this is a rendition,

1:40:54

artist's rendition, of what the Searle device

1:40:56

is supposed to do. Well,

1:40:59

I actually was able to, before

1:41:02

I tell you that, I'll just point out the Searle disk

1:41:04

allegedly provides not only electricity,

1:41:07

but also anti-gravity. And

1:41:09

the story goes that he built these disks, they were

1:41:11

able to fly up in the air, he was able to

1:41:13

radio control them by actually

1:41:16

controlling some of the levers, and the frequency

1:41:19

was easily transmittable.

1:41:22

And he needed about three of these rings to really

1:41:24

have an effect. And then he could pull power off

1:41:27

by stationary coils that were nearby for

1:41:29

electricity output. Now,

1:41:31

the interesting thing was, each of these disks

1:41:34

on the side here, qualifies

1:41:37

as a homopolar generator. And

1:41:39

that's John Thomas, by the way, the biographer of

1:41:42

anti-gravity made real, which is a

1:41:44

biography of John Searle. And there

1:41:46

he is, living legend. He's still alive today. For 50 years

1:41:49

now, he's been telling people about

1:41:51

these stories. And I'll tell you, it's

1:41:54

amazing to see, and I've seen it more

1:41:56

than once, a contactee

1:41:59

who gets... like a download

1:42:01

of information. And then he's overloaded,

1:42:03

he gets real busy, he starts creating stuff. And

1:42:06

I've seen it with two other people as well. They're

1:42:08

the prodigy's for years. And

1:42:11

people of course don't understand what they're doing with

1:42:13

the technology. As you can see here, this

1:42:15

craft is actually up in the air. And

1:42:18

these are the two guys, John Throzen with

1:42:20

his friend, pointing to it. But notice

1:42:23

these particular louvers are

1:42:25

upwards. They're open. In other

1:42:27

words, they're not conducting the voltage to the

1:42:30

external rim. Well,

1:42:32

as we look at what's called electrogravitics

1:42:35

or electrokinetics, which

1:42:37

I'll refer to in a few minutes, this

1:42:40

is an essential way of steering the disk.

1:42:44

Because it makes this front part charged

1:42:47

up to a positive voltage, and then the back

1:42:49

part has a lower voltage, which can be interpreted

1:42:52

as a negative voltage. So you can predict

1:42:54

just from the arrangement that we see there, that

1:42:57

that disk is going to go upwards, or in other words,

1:42:59

toward us,

1:43:00

just because those louvers are open.

1:43:03

So I'm discovering

1:43:05

the rationale behind some of the

1:43:07

creations that he did. And down here

1:43:10

I actually met some of the witnesses

1:43:12

that were there when he built the biggest

1:43:14

one in a forest, which

1:43:16

I don't believe was ever finished. Because

1:43:19

unfortunately John Thro also was very paranoid.

1:43:21

And that tends to be a bad combination of the two.

1:43:25

Creativity and paranoia doesn't

1:43:28

survive too long. Antigravity,

1:43:31

dream made reality is the only living

1:43:33

biography of John Thro right now. But

1:43:37

as the story progresses, as my life

1:43:39

story progresses, we come up

1:43:41

to 1990. And in 1990,

1:43:44

Thro gives a talk in Berlin. And

1:43:47

that gets videotaped. It's like a four hour

1:43:49

videotape. I've seen most of it actually.

1:43:52

And the videotape is a detailed

1:43:54

description of how he built the device, how

1:43:57

he made the rollers. I used to talk

1:43:59

with him and convert him. with them and correspond with

1:44:01

them as well. It was a very sophisticated

1:44:04

way of imprinting each roller so

1:44:06

that the rollers would basically be toggled

1:44:09

into rolling around the ring instead of

1:44:11

just simply slipping around the ring.

1:44:13

And that rolling is very important. And

1:44:16

as it turns out, a couple Russians

1:44:19

actually saw the video and decided

1:44:21

in the 1990s to go ahead and build these

1:44:23

surrel devices. And what they did

1:44:25

was they built the 12 roller

1:44:27

magnets around the ring. And

1:44:30

all of a sudden my lights went off on my brain thinking,

1:44:32

I found the device that has 12 magnets

1:44:34

around the outer edge. But time

1:44:37

will tell as the Russians are still working to

1:44:39

this day on recreating

1:44:42

their original device that was destroyed because

1:44:44

they couldn't pay for the parts that went

1:44:46

into it back in

1:44:48

the 1990s. And then I helped them also

1:44:51

design and file for

1:44:53

and obtain a US patent,

1:44:56

which is 6822361. And so I was happy to do that. And

1:45:02

you know one thing that causes a little consternation

1:45:04

here? Why would anybody

1:45:07

build a magnetic

1:45:09

motor with lots of

1:45:11

connections and baffles and

1:45:14

concrete floors with

1:45:17

calibrated springs and shock absorbers

1:45:19

unless you're afraid the thing's going to go upward? And

1:45:23

the Russians are definitely over

1:45:26

engineering it to not only prevent

1:45:28

it from taking off, but also to keep track

1:45:31

of how much lifting force it has. And

1:45:33

so they were able to do that. And this is a

1:45:35

starter motor that once it gets up to 600 RPM,

1:45:38

according to all their published reports,

1:45:41

and they have published in peer-reviewed

1:45:43

journal articles, I might add, then

1:45:46

they can disconnect the starter motor. They

1:45:49

were even at the joint propulsion conference

1:45:52

in Salt Lake City in 2002.

1:45:54

And I was there

1:45:56

with them, accompanying

1:45:59

them. they just had lots of criticism.

1:46:01

In fact, the Breakthrough Propulsion

1:46:04

Group, you know, Mark Millis from NASA, I

1:46:07

asked Mark the next day, how would you like the Russian

1:46:09

proposal, presentation?

1:46:12

And he said, oh, there's too many outrageous claims.

1:46:16

That's the easiest

1:46:19

way to dismiss the whole technology, you know,

1:46:21

and that's constantly happening all day long. It

1:46:25

doesn't matter if it works or not. If it's outrageous, it

1:46:28

can't be true. So,

1:46:31

Ivan, who's the investor,

1:46:33

calls it the magnetic energy converter. We're

1:46:35

hoping energy and propulsion systems will eventually

1:46:37

see its way daylight in terms of

1:46:40

performance and repeated sales. And

1:46:43

I'm happy to report the US Department of Energy

1:46:45

was supportive in

1:46:48

hosting the Russians for a full day, getting

1:46:51

a couple DOE employees, engineers

1:46:53

to actually sit through the whole, and

1:46:56

we call it interrogation actually, because

1:46:59

this was due diligence. You know, we're bringing over

1:47:01

Russians. We had luckily a Russian

1:47:03

translator that was provided by

1:47:06

the Department of Energy for that day. And

1:47:08

there's Godin Roshin, by the way, in the center. That's

1:47:11

Godin who speaks English, Vladimir Roshin

1:47:13

who knows everything, doesn't speak English. But