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hi everyone. Welcome to another episode of On
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My Own Terms podcast. Today I'll be
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sharing with you three lessons that I learned during
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my time working at lada.
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So for those of you who are not familiar with Ladada,
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ladada is one of the largest e-commerce
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operators in Service Asia. They currently
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operate in six countries, Singapore,
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Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines,
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Thailand, and Vietnam. They
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were founded in 2012 and they've come a
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long way since then. So
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some contacts and background.
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My tenure in la. spans
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from November, 2019 to
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January, 2022, a
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little over two years. It is
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my opinion that e-commerce is a fast moving industry
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further as accelerated by factors like
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Covid 19 and the competitors'
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movements and the time that I was at the company.
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I had two separate roles within my tenure.
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Number one was, uh, merchant
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acquisition for Lamore, which is a channel
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within lada. And my second
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role was, uh, business development
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for Lazada omnichannel Solutions.
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Now, details of, uh, what I did within
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this tenure are for the two roles
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are all on my LinkedIn profile. Internally
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I work with local and regional teams and
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across functions like customer care, product
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and tech teams. And,
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uh, maybe one last, uh, context
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that's important is that more than 60%
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of my total tenure was working
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from home. Finally, uh,
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contacts, past experiences, organization,
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culture, and individual preferences matter.
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So Y M M
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V, which stands for your knowledge,
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may vary. So
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Lesson number one, document
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and share your work. This is something that I picked
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up from a line manager in the Shotton
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that he spent with the team. I was
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blown away when you shared entire BRDs,
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which stands for Business Requirements
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document on Internal Drive.
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What was even mind blowing was
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the level of details and
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rationale behind product and business proposals
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shared in the documents. I learned a lot
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just by reading them and beyond this, it also
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brings everyone up to speed and
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it forms the basis for discussion and meeting. and
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it's my view that only by documenting
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and sharing openly, you capture
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collective wisdom and allow everyone,
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which includes existing and future team members
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to collaborate and be on it so
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people don't have to start from scratch all over
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again. In fact, I argue that it
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is only right for employees
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to document and share their work as this
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is the company's intellectual property.
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Beyond big, heavy project documents like
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BRDs. I also advocate individuals
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and teams documenting and sharing. The
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below items. So for example,
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um, individual's role and responsibilities.
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This is, uh, especially recommended
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for new joiners. Uh, who should
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the new joiners share this with? With the team
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leader within the team? Why?
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So that everyone in the team is very clear about what
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you are doing. What are your focus
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where responsibilities. Another
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item is your key weekly activities,
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challenges, and focus for following week. I
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recommend everyone to do this, and
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you should share this with your team lead and within
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the team members. And
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third item, uh, achievements and milestones.
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Um, I believe everyone should. Of
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the things I've shared so far, and also
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to share this with your team lead, I think this is
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important, um, especially for probation
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assessment, performance assessment, quarterly
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and periodic check-ins. With
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your team lead. Now
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I understand while it can be hassled to be
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documenting this regularly, but
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I believe the pros far outweigh
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the cons. For the below reasons,
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number one is transparency. Um,
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when you document and you share this
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internally, everyone knows what everyone
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else is working on. This helps team member
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build collective knowledge and gather contexts.
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Second reason, efficiency. When you
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do this, it's gonna be easy to share
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knowledge with external teams and onboard
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new team members. And reason
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number three for continuity. When
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you do this, when you share all these documents internally,
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knowledge is retained even when team members
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leave or on or on leave. So
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therefore, this gives you less
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likelihood for you to be disturbed by your colleagues
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when you're on leave. Hi, hope you're
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back to the episode. Now,
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lesson number two. I've
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learned that leaders come in different forms,
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or in other words, I have broadened my definition
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of a leader. Now,
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let me explain. Not every leader needs to be
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an inspirational visionary. One to deliver
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or get the most out of a performing team.
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I've always held that leaders need to be of
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a certain type. For example, dynamic,
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charismatic, visionary, inspirational
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in order to be qualified. With
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air quotes and effective, I'm
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glad I come across leaders at Lazada
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who showed me otherwise. For example, I
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will be the first to admit that I've always doubted
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the administrator type, right?
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Uh, meaning these are the leaders that are
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acquired. Uh, ordinary
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once again with quotes. Um, behind
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the scenes, again with quotes, almost
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kind of like a postman whose
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main contribution is simply to pass messages
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from person A to person B and vice
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versa. But now in
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a fast moving industry and
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company like Lazada, in the e-commerce industry,
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the administrator kind
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of leader provides stability,
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tenure connections.
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and relationships to help his team get things done,
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and this is very valuable. I've
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also observed one trait of leaders of well
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performing teams. That is the leader's
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ability to hire well. Um,
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and I define that as having a judgment for people
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with delicate balance of skills, attitude,
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and potential. and also
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being a great compliment to the existing team.
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I noticed while performing teams tend to be the
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ones with great team vibes and culture,
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I believe this text experience skills
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and maybe a bit of luck to hire
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well and be, uh, dynamic team
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culture. Which leads me
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to lesson number. I
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have learned to lead a Lazada.
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I'm thankful for the opportunity to hire
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and lead a small team of three business development
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executives during my time there. It
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was a little daunting for me when I first joined
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and onboarded Lazada and e-commerce in general,
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so I wanted to pay it forward by Firstt
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a group. Start to the careers at ladada
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and e-commerce or tech in general. As
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you can imagine, I implemented lesson number
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one, which is document and share your work
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within the team. Beyond that
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below, list some key principles
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I communicated and practiced within the team.
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number one, transparency. Again,
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go back to lesson number one, document
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and share work. And
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second key principle I shared within the team
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is that I identify and communicate
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the destination that is KPIs
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or key performance indicators. And
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I let the team members figure out how they
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could get to the destination and
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I tell them, I'm happy
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to provide guidance and share my relevant experience,
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but I will not detect the
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exact path to the destination for the following
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reasons. Number
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one, figur out paths encourages
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ownership of one's own work, and
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allows growth and challenging status quo.
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these two things are much needed in fast
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moving sectors. And second
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reason is that my path may be outdated.
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It may not be the best, relevant or applicable
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for everyone. So even if I share
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what I've done, it may not be the best in
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this current time to solve this particular problem.
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And it may not be best executed by the team members
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that I have in my team. Uh,
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um, the key principle that
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I communicated with my team members, if
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in. make mistakes
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on the side of Overcommunication, and
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this is especially true and valuable in
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those who work from home days and
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doing work from home days. It's always about
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zoom or uh, web
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communication or web calls. We
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there, there is no water cooler chats, there's
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no lunch breaks that we can talk and, and
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explain context. So
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therefore, if in doubt, always over
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communi. Now,
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key principle number four that I always
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communicated within my team members
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is that take care of ourselves. Health
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and family always
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come first. Only
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when you take care of your health and
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family, then you can
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be in the right condition to take care of the business.
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So some of the things that I did advocate
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and emphasize during my time as a lead in Lazada
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is that, um, number one, I had
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two sessions of one-on-one, uh,
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30 minutes each with each team member
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weekly. This was especially crucial
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when they first onboarded with the team. I
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also got a team to attend regional meetings with
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the C-Suites participating in. Third
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thing that I did advocate and emphasize
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was the importance of building relationships
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with other teams and managing the
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internal stakeholders in order to do their work
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well. Fourth
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thing, I encourage the team members
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to speak up at external meetings with
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other stakeholders and also to show their work.
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It's one thing to do your work, but it's also another
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thing and another skill to
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show your work. And when you show
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your work, don't get me wrong, it's not
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to show off, is not
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to flex, but it's
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more. Letting people
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know, even internal stakeholders what
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you are doing so that they can ask the right
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questions. You can set the right context
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so that they can can do their job well,
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so that they know who to go to. When
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they face a similar problem down the road. Now,
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having said all that on my tenure,
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which is about around four months as a
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people lead, wasn't constant long.
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I cherished the journey and the time span
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with the team. Summing up. I
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couldn't be more thankful for my time. The
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opportunities I had and the relationships
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I fought at Ladada, the
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timing of my tenure at Ladada couldn't have been
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more opportune and important. There
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are obviously more takeaways and lessons in a tree
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that I mentioned here. I
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sincerely wish Lazada the best, and
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I look for the great initiatives and proof of Lazada.
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