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the 2025 NCAA tournament and we're getting our

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1:32

have Cousinsau on the show to make

1:34

sense of March and we're also going to

1:37

have our guy Anthony DeVundo come on the

1:39

show. We're going to talk. Fun facts of

1:41

the tournament, we're gonna talk favorite favorites by

1:43

region, favorite upsets by region, the first

1:45

one seed out, what round it might happen,

1:48

the number of one seeds to reach the

1:50

final four, the worst seed to reach the

1:52

final four, our final four futures, and of

1:55

course, our NCAA title picks, we've got a

1:57

lot to get to, again, we've got Sal,

1:59

we've got Anthony DeB. and Kyle what else

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in to One Shining Podcast. As promised

2:25

at the top of the show, we

2:27

are going to be doing a betting

2:29

guide, a one shining podcast, a betting

2:31

guide, a gambling guide, a best bets,

2:33

whatever you want to call it. We

2:35

had Cousin Sow, you know, coming on

2:37

the back end of the show, we

2:39

got Anthony DeBundo, coming up in a

2:41

second. I just wanted to start here

2:43

because again, it is March Madness, it

2:45

is the best time of the year.

2:47

I've had some friends of the program

2:49

reach of the program reach out to

2:52

me. Where are your picks? You have

2:54

these guests on and you are the

2:56

one that is asking all the questions,

2:58

but you're not giving us any answers.

3:00

So now I have my bracket. I

3:02

just figured out and filled out my

3:04

bracket. I am very excited to introduce

3:06

it and talk about it. I'm sort

3:08

of saying that in Jess because again,

3:10

nobody knows anything. as someone to listen

3:12

to, so I'm putting that out on

3:14

the forefront here. I've watched a lot

3:16

of college basketball games this season. Again,

3:18

shout out to our friends at YouTube

3:21

TV, but that probably means I don't

3:23

know anything. I have talked to Franfershilla,

3:25

a guy who knows a lot, he

3:27

also feels the same way, a lot

3:29

of smart-minded people in the world of

3:31

college basketball, know that brackets do not

3:33

do much. But again, it is a

3:35

lot of fun and we got games

3:37

going on. The first four is happening,

3:39

so we do have college basketball, March

3:41

madness is in fact happening, the first

3:43

four. then they'll have, you know, we

3:45

don't even know how far it'll go.

3:47

I'll probably get to a whole other

3:50

64 teams. at some point, but let's

3:52

do it. Let's talk some picks. Again,

3:54

first round, some games that I wanted

3:56

to circle that will be a whole

3:58

lot of fun to watch. Obviously, upsets,

4:00

right? We're talking about favorite upsets, favorite

4:02

favorites. We're gonna do that a little

4:04

bit with Anthony DeVundo. As far as

4:06

my favorite favorites, if we look at

4:08

each region, if I look at the

4:10

South, right, I mean, Auburn, that's a

4:12

tough match up if they get Louisville

4:14

or Creighton or Creighton. In the second

4:16

round we saw the one seeds last

4:19

year they all are two lost in

4:21

the sweet 16 the other two make

4:23

it to the national championship game North

4:25

Carolina loses to Alabama Houston loses to

4:27

Duke due to an injury to Jamal

4:29

shed right so both those teams go

4:31

out I think that all of it

4:33

will at least get to the elite

4:35

eight I think that Houston is the

4:37

one that I'm worried about early on

4:39

I have Houston getting knocked out by

4:41

Gonzaga by Gonzaga so that's an early

4:43

upset that I like to circle there

4:45

as a one- Zagga taking Houston's path

4:48

to the final four. So I got

4:50

the Zag's going all the way to

4:52

San Antonio. So that would be an

4:54

eight seed. If you go to Fando,

4:56

you can look right now, you can

4:58

take an eight seed, any eight seed

5:00

to get the final four, you could

5:02

get the final four, you could get

5:04

that a plus 500. So maybe go

5:06

take a swing on that. So I

5:08

like the Zag's at the beginning of

5:10

the season. I have enjoyed watching the

5:12

Zag's figured it out, figured out, figured

5:15

out, figured out, figured out, figured out,

5:17

figured out. I like Mark Few. I

5:19

feel like this might be his final

5:21

run, his final chapter, potentially a farewell

5:23

tour, but take the Zags there. I

5:25

know Houston fans are loving this. Anytime

5:27

that someone else picks against your team,

5:29

this is something that you want, this.

5:31

This is something that you want. You

5:33

know, if you're listening right now and

5:35

you're upset as a team, this is

5:37

something that you want. You know what

5:39

I mean? So if you're listening to

5:41

the Final. lead date in Michigan State.

5:44

This feels like a Flintstone type season.

5:46

I'm not going to say that Michigan

5:48

State's going to win the national championship,

5:50

but to Michigan State winning the region

5:52

as Coach Kaye taught us back in

5:54

2020. is the same sort of feeling

5:56

of winning a championship, right? You won

5:58

that region, you won the South. I

6:00

think Michigan State versus Auburn could happen

6:02

in the elite aid. I would take

6:04

Michigan State in that game just because

6:06

I think they're more organized. I think

6:08

they know who they are. I've tried

6:10

to figure out who the best player

6:13

on their team is and I think

6:15

it is the team, the team, the

6:17

team, the team, the team. That is

6:19

what Michigan State and the new version

6:21

of the Flint stones are. So I

6:23

think they win the South. Flipping

6:25

the new work, this is not so

6:27

much fun for me to talk about,

6:29

but I do have to be honest,

6:32

I have to be objective. We have

6:34

seen a lot of people that are

6:36

supposed to journalists show that they are

6:38

not objective, and they're just commentators like

6:40

me, just to commentate, but we've seen,

6:43

but we've seen that, based on the

6:45

bubble reaction, we don't have to get

6:47

into the minutia of that, but look

6:49

at new work, and look at what

6:52

Duke's got. This is a great. faces

6:54

a team that can legitimately

6:56

knock them out head to head just based

6:58

on talent until they get to the elite

7:00

aid and new work in a team that

7:02

could potentially do it. Obviously is Alabama, St.

7:04

Mary's is a team that could be a

7:06

wild card there, Wisconsin is a team, obviously

7:08

that a lot of people like that can

7:10

make a run. Maybe we have a 2015

7:12

redux where it's Duke v. Wisconsin to go

7:15

to the final four. I would still take

7:17

the Blue Devils there. So I got a

7:19

one seed coming out of the east, flipping

7:21

down to the west region out in San

7:23

Francisco. I like this Florida team. Now I

7:25

am a little bit worried about the Todd

7:27

Golden of it all, just as far as

7:29

like the coaching pedigree in the NCAA tournament.

7:31

But this team is deep. This team is

7:33

hot. This team has the wow factor. They

7:35

have a lot of talent. Of course, I

7:37

love Walter Clayton Jr. Will Richard is an

7:39

OSP. So he is a guy that we

7:41

need to watch in this tournament, in this

7:43

tournament, of course. and I'm very excited to

7:45

see what this part of the team looks

7:48

like and I got them going to the

7:50

final four. I think they're gonna face the

7:52

Johnny's in the elite eight and I think

7:54

it's gonna be Rick Patino versus Walter Clayton

7:56

Jr. I'm gonna give the edge to Florida.

7:58

I think Florida just has more talent. their

8:00

roster more depth on their roster. So they

8:02

get to the final four. So my final

8:04

final four picks right now, so I got

8:06

Michigan State Tom Mizzo, they get there. Congratulations.

8:08

He said he was gonna die trying to

8:11

get this team back to prominence. He does

8:13

it this season. Florida, I like them getting

8:15

into the final four. Shout out of the

8:17

final four. I like them getting into the

8:19

final four. Shout out to the final four.

8:21

Shout out to the final four. And no,

8:23

not the Mike White from the White Lotus,

8:26

the Mike White, the head coach that used

8:28

to be a Florida when his dad was

8:30

the AD at Duke. And he was the

8:32

committee chair. People forget back in the day,

8:34

Duke, Kevin White used to be the committee

8:36

chair. But again, Florida versus Duke, Florida versus

8:38

Duke, Florida versus Duke in the national championship

8:41

game. I'm going to take the Gators to

8:43

win the national championship. And I do think

8:45

there's some Jerry West potential here, where. Maybe

8:47

Florida wins the national championship. But Cooper Flag

8:49

wins most outstanding player. This has happened in

8:51

NCAA tournament history in the past. We've had

8:53

multiple times where a player did not win

8:56

the championship, but he won most outstanding player.

8:58

I think Cooper Flag could do that. He

9:00

could have a big game against Kinsaga, have

9:02

a solid game against Florida. They still give

9:04

him the nod. So Florida to win the

9:06

national championship. Do Cooper Flag to win most

9:08

outstanding player. It's a very unique and strange

9:11

pick. anything so we're just having fun here.

9:13

The most fun that could actually happen by

9:15

the way as far as the reaction to

9:17

you know kind of the bubble and all

9:19

this sort of stuff the bubble boys are

9:21

upset. I think the funniest thing that could

9:23

happen as far as March Madness and as

9:26

far as matchups would be something like this,

9:28

like you know, let's say North Carolina, San

9:30

Diego State, they match up, North Carolina wins,

9:32

then North Carolina gets into the second round

9:34

against Old Miss, they somehow find a way

9:36

to win that game. Old Miss has been

9:39

a little inconsistent. Sean Padoula is someone that

9:41

they know. North Carolina could then face Iowa

9:43

State, they get a redemption. from the 2014

9:45

Buzzer Beater game. They win that one. Then

9:47

it's North Carolina, Michigan State. They face a

9:49

lot in the NCAA tournament last year. They

9:51

face each other. North Carolina won. They get

9:54

the best of them again. Then they face

9:56

Auburn, a team that dominated them in the

9:58

Maui Invitional. Auburn's not the same team that

10:00

dominated them in the Maui Invitional. Auburn's not

10:02

the same team that we saw the same

10:04

team that we saw in. That's the same

10:06

team that we win that game. It's a

10:09

redemption game. It's a redemption game. It's a

10:11

redemption game. It's a Redemption game. It's a

10:13

redemption game. It's a redemption game. It's a

10:15

redemption game. It's a redemption game. It's a

10:17

redemption game. It's a redemption game. Now that

10:19

would be a TV event, one that we've

10:21

not quite seen before. Now I say all

10:24

that in jest, I am joking as I

10:26

say that, I'm sure some people are rolling

10:28

their eyes, but that would be hilarious if

10:30

that were to happen, coming on the heels

10:32

of what we saw in 2022 in the

10:34

final four, the first and the only time

10:36

that these teams have faced in the final

10:39

four setting to see them face each other

10:41

at the national championship game. I don't know.

10:43

I would start pointing to the scriptwriters and

10:45

say, who did this? It would be great

10:47

with Mike White in the meme, right? With

10:49

Jason Isaac's character from White Lotus, if this

10:51

were to happen. But again, I like Florida.

10:54

to win the national championship at like Florida

10:56

v. Duke in the title game. We have

10:58

OSPs. These are our one shining players. There

11:00

are five guys that we want you to

11:02

watch in each region. This is the last

11:04

thing I want to give you before we

11:07

move on to our gambling guide with Anjou

11:09

Bundo. And let's the last thing I want

11:11

to give you before we move on to

11:13

our gambling guide with Anjou Dubundo. And let's

11:15

start in the last thing I want to

11:17

give you before we move on to our

11:19

gambling guide with Andrew. to watch him play

11:22

in the tournament. We got John Pulikidas out

11:24

of Yale. He's a guy who wears the

11:26

pink shoes and the lefty. He's just, he's

11:28

got a lot of game. If we could

11:30

do the Michael Jordan, he got game. That's

11:32

what it is for John Pulikidas. Danny Wolf,

11:34

the big bad wolf out of Michigan. I'm

11:37

excited to see what he looks like in

11:39

the tournament. A lot of people talking about

11:41

altitude. But I'm excited to see Michigan coming

11:43

off the big tin championship championship. What does.

11:45

What does Dusty may look like. We got

11:47

Jason Richardson son of Jason Richardson out of

11:49

Michigan State shout out to the Flint Stones

11:52

shout out to Jason Richardson for really turning

11:54

it on late in the season. So kudos

11:56

to him for this long run. We also

11:58

got our guy Donovan Dent from New Mexico

12:00

who played high school basketball out here in

12:02

California. He's a name that people know and

12:04

he's a name that he's a game that

12:07

he's a game and he's a game and

12:09

he's a game and he's a game and

12:11

he's a game. And he's a game that

12:13

he's a game. And he's a game that

12:15

he's a game that you need. And he's

12:17

a new head coach. The fact that you

12:19

can hire a new head coach. you will

12:22

know soon. We got Cale Love, my guy

12:24

out of Arizona, we got Jackson's Shellstad out

12:26

of Oregon, Augustus Marcellonus out of St. Mary's,

12:28

and LeBaron Phylon of Alabama. So those are

12:30

the five out in the east, in the

12:32

Midwest, we got a manual sharp from Houston,

12:34

Ian Shefflin from Clemson, Otaga, Oweh, from Kentucky,

12:37

Maeshack, aka, Maeshack Madness, from Tennessee, and Braden

12:39

Huff, we got Will Richard. from Florida. I

12:41

know a lot of people talk about condon,

12:43

a lot of people talk about Walter Clayton

12:45

Jr. but Will Richard, he just pops. He's

12:47

the woe, like he is that guy. Well,

12:50

the guy is Walter Clayton Jr. But that

12:52

guy is of course, Will Richard, we got

12:54

Derek Queen, a. D. Queen, from Maryland, I'm

12:56

excited to see what he looks like in

12:58

March. Bennet Stirth, we talked about him ad

13:00

nauseum as well, at Drake. excited to see

13:02

what he looks like in March. And finally,

13:05

our favorite O.S. Pierre and a guy who

13:07

was near and dear to our heart, and

13:09

his heart is bigger than anyone, potentially in

13:11

this NCAA tournament. He is Kyle's guy as

13:13

well, R.J. Lewis, out of St. John. So

13:15

there you have it. Our picks are OSP

13:17

years right there officially stamped I got my

13:20

final four Michigan State Duke Florida and Gonzaga

13:22

and of course we got five OSP years

13:24

for every region there's a lot of good

13:26

games a lot of things to watch we

13:28

appreciate everybody tuning in to kind of our

13:30

ramp up for the actual tournament itself I

13:32

just want to remind

13:35

people that we are

13:37

in the reactions business,

13:39

not the predictions business.

13:41

So, we fill out

13:43

these brackets, we talk

13:45

about these games, anything

13:47

is possible, anything can

13:50

happen. Again, we don't

13:52

like know -it -alls. We

13:54

don't like key is,

13:56

we like people that

13:58

understand that anything is

14:00

possible, anything can happen.

14:02

And we're very excited

14:05

to watch these games.

14:07

And without further ado,

14:09

let's turn it over

14:11

to our guy, Anthony

14:13

DeBundo. And let's talk

14:15

some favorite favorites, some

14:17

favorite upsets and some

14:20

more takes on March

14:22

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Joining us now as promised on one shining

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podcast, this is his first appearance, but he

15:32

is officially a friend of the program. He's

15:35

the ringer's very own Anthony DeBundo and he

15:37

is here to help us figure out how

15:39

to gamble on the 2025 NCAA tournament. First

15:41

and foremost though, DeBundo, good to see you

15:43

man. How are you? How are you holding

15:45

up in March? Excited

15:48

to be here. Thanks for having me on

15:50

the pod. I think it's very exciting

15:52

and I'm trying to always find the balance

15:54

of like being smart and being a

15:56

little different from everybody else while

15:58

also not having a bunch of

16:00

upsets because I do think this is going

16:02

to be a chalky tournament and I know

16:05

that's like famous last words I'll regret saying

16:07

that I'll get old takes exposed but you

16:09

know when you look at the strength of

16:11

some of these top teams it is stronger

16:14

metrically and and kind of narrative wise that

16:16

it's been in past years. Yeah, I love

16:18

that you're locked in and we talked about

16:20

this offline, but in the Ringer universe, we

16:23

need as many college basketball people that actually

16:25

know about college basketball where they don't get

16:27

the deer in the headlights look as soon

16:29

as you start bringing up Colorado State

16:32

or one of these teams off

16:34

the beaten path. Instead, you have

16:36

a Colorado State or one of

16:38

these teams off the beaten path.

16:40

Instead, you have a Colorado State

16:42

shirt on for the people that

16:44

are listening. figure out what team

16:46

you're locking in on. So just

16:48

generally speaking, as someone who doesn't

16:50

have a team in the tournament,

16:52

like how do you approach who

16:54

you root for? Do you have

16:56

a lot of like, you know, eggs

16:58

in different baskets or is it

17:01

all in one basket? Like, what's

17:03

the approach there? Yeah, I also

17:05

went to Syracuse and we're trying

17:07

to be nice. Like, what's the approach

17:10

there? Yeah, I was keeping a

17:12

Philly specific for you. as not made a

17:14

tournament. So it's very depressing here. We're kind

17:16

of looking for a figure like a Rick

17:18

Patino maybe to save basketball in our city.

17:20

We need somebody Richard Patino, maybe his son,

17:22

you know, I mean, he could be honest.

17:24

But that'd be great. I would sign up

17:26

Penn and Fran or in talks maybe. There's

17:28

some buzz. Villanova, of course, is a highly

17:31

sought after job, but it ends up being

17:33

just. you know you start to fall in

17:35

love with teams you watch throughout the year

17:37

maybe you bet on them a few times

17:39

and they cast tickets for you certain coaches

17:41

you really like watching and so over the

17:43

years like Nico Medbeds become one of my

17:45

guys Greg McDermott's become one of my guys

17:48

but I'm looking at the bracket now and I

17:50

don't really want to pick either in the first

17:52

round so it's really tough you try to separate

17:54

the bias and at the end of the

17:56

day you know coaches dominate this sport and

17:58

characters and narratives and And so I'm hoping

18:01

that Nico gets a good send off in

18:03

my heart, but my head says that maybe

18:05

they're gonna be a very popular, quote unquote,

18:07

upset pick that doesn't quite come through. Yeah,

18:10

I do think there's a triple threat when

18:12

you're making decisions on picks, right? There's your

18:14

heart, which I think a lot of us

18:16

kind of tend to go with our heart.

18:18

It's, you know, it's an innate thing to

18:21

do, a natural thing to do. There's our

18:23

head, which is all the metrics and the

18:25

many notes and the figures and the figures

18:27

and the facts and the figures and the

18:30

facts and the facts that we all go

18:32

through, all the little tidbits and the little

18:34

tidbits and the little tidbits, and the little

18:36

tidbits, and the little tidbits, and the little

18:39

tidbits, and the little tidbits, and the little

18:41

tidbits, are there. As far as like the

18:43

little nuances and the things that you look

18:45

towards before you make picks, is it as

18:47

small as like the basketball is being different

18:50

for some teams? Like we remember Purdue, I

18:52

was bringing this up the other day, like

18:54

Purdue in 2023 when they lose the FDU,

18:56

FDU believe it, right? They shoot Nike balls

18:59

all year, they're a good three-point shooting team,

19:01

they're around 40%, they get in the tournament,

19:03

they're playing with the NXT Evo. after the

19:05

game Matt Painter doesn't want to point fingers

19:08

but he does kind of point to the

19:10

basketball we've had some other coaches and teams

19:12

bring it up are you thinking about things

19:14

as little as those details when you're gambling

19:16

or are you trying to think more big

19:19

picture like what's the philosophy there? I mean,

19:21

I know a lot of people in the

19:23

gambling world, they made a lot of money

19:25

betting unders in any game where teams had

19:28

to switch balls, where like if both teams

19:30

were using the new ball, they were betting

19:32

unders and they were making a lot of

19:34

money in those tournaments, especially like first half

19:37

unders, because it is different. It's a very

19:39

precise thing. So it is weird that the

19:41

NCAA would do something like that, but you

19:43

know, some teams I think have started to

19:46

prepare for changes, they've kind of learned from

19:48

past mistakes, Purdue last year ends up being

19:50

one of the best shooting teams in the

19:52

tournament and gets all the championship. So yeah,

19:54

there's always my new things. I mean, you'll

19:57

hear all these little tidbits in the game.

19:59

gambling world. Early start times, people like first

20:01

half unders, delayed start times. So if the

20:03

first game of the region at the regional

20:06

site goes two hours and 25 minutes and

20:08

all of a sudden, maybe the players were

20:10

getting warmed up and prepared to start at

20:12

2.30, but now they're playing at 3.10. Does

20:15

that throw them off? Do you bet the

20:17

under there? So there's all reasons people are

20:19

looking to bet against human achievement and bet

20:21

against points. I tend to mess around with

20:23

those here and there, but it's not the

20:26

most fun way to bet the tournament necessarily.

20:28

So I think at the end of the day,

20:30

everybody's looking for the tiniest edge they can find. Yeah,

20:32

flight delays has been the big one in the past

20:34

48 hours. A lot of people talking about Texas A&M,

20:37

their flight being delayed and that might affect them in

20:39

their first round game against Yale. A lot of people

20:41

like Yale already. They saw the flight delay now. They

20:43

saw the flight delay. Now they're completely in on Yale

20:45

already. They saw the flight delay. Now they're completely in

20:47

on Yale, now they're completely in on Yale already. Now

20:49

they're completely in on the flight delay. Now they're completely

20:52

in on Yale, they're completely in on Yale, on Yale,

20:54

getting the completely in on Yale, getting the completely in

20:56

on Yale, getting the completely in on Yale, getting the

20:58

completely, getting the, getting the, getting the, getting the, getting

21:00

the, getting the, getting the, getting the, getting the,

21:02

getting the, favorite favorite in each region? We have

21:05

odds if you go to Fandel Sports Book right

21:07

now, you can look at the odds. You can

21:09

bet each region and figure out, and I want

21:11

to start in the South region, we obviously have

21:13

Auburn as the number one overall seed. Let's start

21:16

there. Is Auburn your favorite favorite in this region,

21:18

or is there somebody else better odds that you

21:20

kind of locked in on? This

21:22

is actually the toughest region for me to

21:24

pick a final four team because I generally

21:27

have a bias against Auburn Generally not love

21:29

their tournament profile over the past few years,

21:31

especially Had Yale last year I think a

21:33

lot of people were picking Auburn last year

21:35

as a stealth, you know, championship team the

21:38

Ken Palm metrics love them I do wonder

21:40

if people have kind of been thrown off

21:42

the scent of Auburn just because they had

21:44

a bad couple of games here at the

21:47

finish and it's not like the last four

21:49

games, right But it's not like they lost

21:51

to bad team. I mean, they lost to, you

21:53

know, Florida and Alabama here. Like, these are all

21:55

top 10 teams. And A and N. Yeah, these

21:58

are all top 12 teams. Right. Crazy. And

22:00

so I wonder if people have been

22:02

maybe thrown off the scent of Auburn.

22:04

I would have loved Iowa State, but

22:06

with the Gilbert injury now, I'm questioning

22:08

what their ceiling is. Michigan State fits

22:10

a trend that I don't like that

22:12

I want to get into when we

22:14

talk about St. John's, which is not

22:16

going to make producer Kyle happy, but

22:18

yeah, Auburn ended up kind of being

22:20

like the de facto winner of this

22:22

region for me because. Louisville, I think

22:24

a lot of people are talking about

22:26

the fact that it could be a

22:28

road game for them. They're playing in

22:30

Lexington. Auburn fans travel pretty well. I

22:32

imagine Auburn fans will have plenty of

22:34

people in Rup, if they were to

22:36

play this weekend. So ultimately, as much

22:38

as I love Louisville, I think that

22:40

might even be their toughest game between

22:42

the first round and the final four.

22:44

I kind of settled on Auburn is

22:46

the favorite favorite for this region. Yeah,

22:48

I think that's a good call. Minus

22:50

105, also the odds aren't that bad,

22:52

you know, based on the fact that

22:54

you have the number one overall seed,

22:57

the fact that, like you said, they're

22:59

all going to go to Rupp Arena

23:01

now that they know, the conversation is

23:03

about Louisville fans taking over Lexington, like

23:05

Auburn, this fan base is insane. So

23:07

that's something that they would take pride

23:09

in to go there, take over Rup,

23:11

Rup, Rup, Atlanta is an SEC, that,

23:13

Iowa, right? there at plus 500 but

23:15

like you said I don't really like

23:17

them then it's Texas saying them they

23:19

get Yale we potentially by the way

23:21

could get an Auburn Yale rematch in

23:23

the Sweet 16 like if Yale was

23:25

able to get through the first two

23:27

rounds they could face Auburn again and

23:29

pull Akitas could look at Bruce Pearl

23:31

and stare him down and we have

23:33

a you know one of those great

23:35

moments in the tournament but I think

23:37

you're right in the South Auburn feels

23:39

like the right pick let's go to

23:41

Newark let's go to the East region,

23:43

obviously the favorites. You're looking at this,

23:45

we're all we're all talking about Duke,

23:47

we're all talking about Cooper flag. Is

23:49

it that obvious that Duke is going

23:51

to win the East region or is

23:53

there another favorite favorite that you like?

23:55

Yeah, this was the easy one for

23:57

me. I mean, Duke's going to be

23:59

my national champion. I had Yukon a

24:01

couple years ago and then I tried

24:03

to get cute and not pick Yukon

24:05

last year, because I didn't, you know,

24:07

it's like, I think they're the best

24:09

team, but everybody's gonna have them. And

24:12

so maybe I'll be a little bit

24:14

different and go against them. But I

24:16

mean, when you pull up the Bart

24:18

Torvik attorney team cops for this Duke

24:20

team, it is pretty remarkable. And it's

24:22

not even close. When you compare Duke's

24:24

efficiency, so when the the Bart Torvik

24:26

efficiency metrics for those you don't know.

24:28

you can go on the website and

24:30

you can pull up most comparable teams

24:32

and it looks at turnover margins, rebounding

24:34

margins, effective field goal percentage, all the

24:36

nerd stats, the four factors that make

24:38

up these teams and the average number

24:40

of wins is over four. So on

24:42

average a team with Duke's profile gets

24:44

to the final four and there's a,

24:46

the whole list is littered with champions.

24:48

So for me in this region with

24:50

a two seed that I actually think

24:52

will go out early and a three

24:54

seed that I think also might go

24:56

out early. Like this might end up

24:58

being a pretty friendly path for Duke

25:00

as well. I know a lot of

25:02

people are highlighting, you know, Arizona as

25:04

maybe a dark course there. I just

25:06

will never trust the, you know, Arizona

25:08

when they have to get into these

25:10

half court games and it comes down

25:12

to like half court efficiency. I just

25:14

don't think they hold up the same

25:16

way as otherwise. But anyway, yeah, so

25:18

here's the set. The 11 most comparable

25:20

teams to Duke this season, five of

25:22

them won the national championship championship championship.

25:25

Uh-huh. And it does feel like a

25:27

2015 year. I have said this, that

25:29

without Kay, Duke is due. It's been

25:31

10 years since they won a national

25:33

championship. I think 2022 they were on

25:35

their way to a national championship and

25:37

then the basketball gods, the Carmick Energy,

25:39

I don't know, whatever happened, whatever happened,

25:41

we all know, but I do know.

25:43

But I do feel like they're on

25:45

their way to a national championship and

25:47

then the basketball gods, the karmic energy,

25:49

I still feel like the need. Caleb

25:51

Love really take this team. I know

25:53

he can go on a run, he

25:55

can get hot, but seeing Duke again,

25:57

he might get too excited. They beat

25:59

them last year in Cameron, so maybe

26:01

there's some redemption there for Duke in

26:03

that game. I think we've already. seen

26:05

that so I think it's a good

26:07

call minus 135 you can take Duke

26:09

now we go over to the Midwest

26:11

Houston the one seed here plus 120

26:13

to make it out Tennessee right behind

26:15

him at plus 370 who do you

26:17

like in the Midwest is your favorite

26:19

favorite well I feel like I'm gonna

26:21

come across is a bit bit boring

26:23

here but I have three I have

26:25

three one seeds in my final four

26:27

now okay Gonzaga's getting a lot of

26:29

love and I get it If you

26:31

look at if you just pull up

26:33

Ken Palm, if you pull up Bart

26:35

Orvik, and you look at their efficiency

26:37

metrics, they project as a top 10

26:40

team. Gonzaga has a pretty good half-court

26:42

offense. If you go and just look

26:44

at the half-court offensive numbers, they end

26:46

up as one of the most efficient

26:48

half-court offenses in the country. And you

26:50

kind of need that, because Houston's not

26:52

going to let you run in transition,

26:54

like Gonzaga wants to. And you kind

26:56

of need shot shot making shot making.

26:58

For me, I've seen enough of those

27:00

guys at this Gonzaga team the last

27:02

couple years to not really fully trust

27:04

them against a more physical team, against

27:06

guards that are going to really get

27:08

up and bother them. And so Houston,

27:10

and the reason the nerds love Houston

27:12

is just shot volume. They get so

27:14

many extra possessions, extra shots from rebounds.

27:16

They're able to overcome potential deficiencies. And

27:18

they're shooting this year is better than

27:20

it's been in years past. So ultimately,

27:22

you know, I'm very boring. Will Warren

27:24

had a great stat on his sub

27:26

stack. The average efficiency margin of the

27:28

one seeds is by far, not even

27:30

close, like four points per 100 possessions,

27:32

better than it's ever been in the

27:34

history of the Ken Palm era. So,

27:36

you know, 2000 plus. And so I

27:38

just think that at the end of

27:40

the day, if you're filling out brackets,

27:42

it's going to be a lot of

27:44

chalk for me this year. Yeah, it's

27:46

kind of fascinating too. Like this is

27:48

a something's got to give game. Houston

27:50

number two scoring defense in the country.

27:52

They give up about 59 points per

27:55

game. Gonzaga number two scoring offense in

27:57

the country. They score around 87 points

27:59

per game. So this is going to

28:01

be a fascinating matchup if Gonzaga can

28:03

get past Georgia. We expect that to

28:05

be the case. I like the Zag

28:07

just basically taking that one seed from

28:09

Houston, but that game, like you said,

28:11

the physicality of Houston, they also feel

28:13

like last year was shed going down.

28:15

They have a little bit of juice

28:17

behind them. Calvin Sampson, here he's supposed

28:19

to do. They have a little bit

28:21

of juice behind them. Kelvin Samson, here's

28:23

the noise. He's going down. They have

28:25

a little bit of juice behind them,

28:27

Kelvin, they need to finally do it.

28:29

So Houston needs like a nice run. Plus

28:31

120 you can get them there. It's not

28:33

boring if you think it's true. So that's

28:35

a good news. Let's go to the West.

28:38

We got Florida is the one C there

28:40

minus 140 Texas Tech right behind him at

28:42

plus 550. Who's your favorite favorite out

28:44

in the West? I'm gonna go a

28:46

little different here. I'm gonna make the

28:49

final four. I like Texas Tech kind

28:51

of punted the big 12 tournament.

28:53

much to my dismay, I bet them

28:55

to win that tournament and then,

28:57

you know, it comes out on

28:59

the semifinal Friday, they're sitting by,

29:01

they're sitting guys and they're basically

29:03

going six deep against Arizona. Chance

29:05

and Darian both sat out and

29:07

everyone's like, wait a second, are these

29:10

guys actually hurt? And they're like, no,

29:12

they'll be back to the tournament. We'll

29:14

see you in the first round. Exactly,

29:16

maybe even they're thinking about three

29:18

weeks from now, when they could maybe

29:20

be in San Antonio. is an

29:22

elite offense that can keep Florida in the

29:25

half court. And I think that's the

29:27

big thing. As I've looked at Florida,

29:29

because I like Florida, I think Todd

29:31

Golden's a great coach, used to watch

29:33

the Dons all the time, Jamari Boulier,

29:35

like those, those teams were awesome to watch.

29:37

But Florida's profile has one big

29:39

red flag for me. Everybody's falling

29:41

in love with them, I get it, they just

29:44

ran through the SEC tournament, they just put

29:46

together an impressive three-game stretch,

29:48

but the one concern with me for

29:50

Florida. They are just 50 seconds in points

29:52

per possession in the half court offense this

29:55

season according to Synergy. It's unadjusted

29:57

numbers. They play a lot of good SEC teams.

29:59

Sure. But that's real to me. And Florida in

30:01

the SEC, a lot of those teams, Auburn, Alabama, they're

30:03

happy to run up and down the floor and play

30:06

at Florida's pace and get into a transitional battle. If

30:08

they get a team that's willing to slow it down,

30:10

make them execute in the half court, that's where I

30:12

think you're red flag exists. Yeah, I like that call.

30:14

Like you said, everybody's hot on Florida. I have said

30:16

this before on our selection Sunday show that that tends

30:18

to be the case where we fall in love with

30:21

one team. Auburn in 2023 was that team. Everybody had

30:23

Auburn, Walker, Kessler, Jabari, Smith. How can we stop this

30:25

group? It does feel like Florida has a little bit

30:27

of that same energy in the air, but they're a

30:29

very talented and deep team, but plus 550 getting Texas

30:31

Tech is pretty good, especially if those guys play like

30:33

they have all year like they have all year. They're

30:35

really good teams. St. John's though is sitting right there

30:38

at plus 650. I know you have a note on

30:40

St. John's that you want to point out, producer Kyle

30:42

Earmus, I know you don't want to hear this, but

30:44

why are you concerned about the Johnny's? Well, I mean,

30:46

we have a, we have a St. John's fan here,

30:48

but I think even the most optimistic John's fan would

30:50

have never seen it going this well. Right. They end

30:53

up top 10 in the country, they get a two

30:55

seed. Not even in their wildest dreams could have gone

30:57

this well. And historically, when teams come out of complete

30:59

nowhere to get a one or a two seed, they

31:01

tend to be a darling, a team that everybody has

31:03

a reason, they've been on the bandwagon all year, they

31:05

don't tend to do well in the tournament. The stat

31:07

is that there have been 39 teams now, Ken Palm

31:10

has just tracked this for a couple years. 39 teams

31:12

that entered the season unranked in the AP top 25

31:14

and then went on to get a one or a

31:16

two seed in the NCAA tournament. Tate, you wanna guess

31:18

how many of those teams have ever made the final

31:20

four? I'm gonna go probably zero, right? Like, it feels

31:22

like really. It feels like you're leading me to zero.

31:24

I'm not going to sound like I'm the smart guy

31:27

here, but I'm like, it might be zero. That's not

31:29

good. Zero. Zero. And the last few years, the teams

31:31

that fit this, Purdue, from two seasons ago, we all

31:33

know what happened to them. Marquette two years ago, kind

31:35

of similar to this John's Renaissance here, where it's like

31:37

the Shaka Renaissance. They went right through the Big East,

31:39

they got a big East, they got a big East,

31:42

they got a big East, big East, they got a

31:44

big East, they got a big East, they got a

31:46

big East, they got a big East, they got a

31:48

big East, they got a big East, they got a

31:50

big East, they got a big East, So that's the

31:52

red flag for St. John's and it applies to Michigan

31:54

State. So if you're thinking about that in your bracket,

31:56

these teams that come out of nowhere, and look, the

31:59

AP poll has bias toward the top teams. Everybody remembers,

32:01

sorry, Tate, North Carolina, they were preseason number one, didn't

32:03

make the tournament. I think it happens the other way,

32:05

and you can say, maybe we gave too much respect

32:07

to this name brand, who underperforms. But the other way

32:09

around, when its team comes out of nowhere to be

32:11

elite, you should always bat your eye and say, Are

32:14

we kind of at the top of maybe the outcome

32:16

for this school? Now the other part of the St.

32:18

John's thing is that I went and pulled up the

32:20

bar tour of a comparison for all of the St.

32:22

John's recent history. The average tournament wins is 2.4. There's

32:24

only one team that ever made the final four with

32:26

St. John's profile of the most 10 comparable. That team

32:28

was 2013 Louisville, who went on to win the national

32:31

championship, coached by none of then. Of course. So if

32:33

you want to squint and you want to make the

32:35

case, Patino's done it with a similar team before, right?

32:37

It's very much a Patino team, but it will not

32:39

be me picking St. John's. I will have Texas Tech

32:41

over them in the Sweet 16. I think that's a

32:43

very well argued case there. I think a lot of

32:46

people are going to say, wait a second, what's happening.

32:48

We thought it was his though. We thought it was

32:50

St. John's. I do say this, the AP voters are

32:52

less informed than ever because of the roster turnover. So

32:54

maybe this is a time where like that stat doesn't

32:56

apply because they had no. idea that

32:58

RJ Lewis was this good.

33:00

They had no idea that

33:03

Jace Richardson would end up

33:05

starting and being basically the

33:07

star of this team. So

33:09

maybe there's some, some factors

33:11

that are in there, but

33:13

that does give me a

33:15

chill down my spine as

33:18

you say that because I

33:20

believe in the old guys

33:22

and we love nostalgia. We

33:24

love the idea that this

33:26

is to be the first

33:28

year that to the two

33:30

pointer is actually worth more

33:32

than the three pointer in

33:35

college basketball. We've officially reverted

33:37

back because we've taken so

33:39

many bad threes that now

33:41

two is worth more than

33:43

three. And the two guys

33:45

that have basically applied this

33:47

idea to their teams throughout

33:50

has been Rick Petino and

33:52

Tom Izzo. And I think

33:54

that's why a lot of

33:56

people have fallen back in

33:58

love with these guys. And

34:00

it's very funny because Rick

34:02

Petino famously took Providence and

34:04

said, why don't we shoot

34:07

the three? Now he's like,

34:09

why don't we just get

34:11

to the basket, miss it,

34:13

get a rebound, get another

34:15

possession, get a better shot.

34:17

And hey, if we miss

34:19

that one, we'll get another

34:22

rebound and we'll get another

34:24

possession. I mean, they lead

34:26

the country and extra scoring

34:28

chances. That's the reason I

34:30

like the Johnny's Houston right

34:32

behind them as well. So

34:34

those two teams, they can,

34:36

they can create other opportunities

34:39

for themselves. Let's do some

34:41

upsets. We'll go region by

34:43

region again. We'll go back

34:45

to the south. Obviously you

34:47

like Auburn as the favorite.

34:49

Who's your favorite upset in

34:51

the south? Which one is

34:53

sticking out to you? I

34:56

bet the Ivy team basically

34:58

every year. It was one

35:00

year. There was one year

35:02

where Penn was like a

35:04

16 seed. They kind of

35:06

stole the bid. I didn't

35:08

bet them against Illinois, but

35:11

pretty much every year I

35:13

bet the Ivy, the Ivy's

35:15

always good to me. So

35:17

yeah, Yale plus seven and

35:19

a half and with the

35:21

money line and in my

35:23

brackets. And if you want

35:25

to get really crazy, I

35:28

don't think Michigan is all

35:30

that. I think everybody's picking

35:32

UC San Diego there. I

35:34

think Yale would have a

35:36

chance against either. I mean,

35:38

if you want to get

35:40

really crazy at Fandle right

35:43

now, plus nine 20 on

35:45

Yale to make the sweet

35:47

16, like it's a really

35:49

good rim defense. They rebound

35:51

really well. I think it's

35:53

a good matchup for them

35:55

against A &M because they force

35:57

you to shoot and A

36:00

&M can't just physically unable

36:02

to shoot the ball. Maybe

36:04

we'll tailor. A &M's offense, like

36:06

the way that they get

36:08

fired up is missing shots

36:10

and getting rebounds. I mean,

36:12

it's a very funny. to watch.

36:15

You're like, these guys, they just brick the hell out

36:17

of the basketball. And the better the brick, the better

36:19

the rebound, the better the opportunity for a little lay-in.

36:21

So I think that's a great call and a great

36:23

coach there as well with James Jones at Yale, a

36:25

guy who has been there since the 20th century. So

36:27

he knows what's going on. He's a guy who has

36:29

been there since the 20th century. So he knows what's

36:32

going on. one seed in the sweet 16. That is

36:34

the perfect David versus Goliath moment that the NCAA turned

36:36

it on. So I think that's a really good call.

36:38

Let's go to the east. Let's go to

36:40

Newark. Who's your favorite upset there? Yeah,

36:42

the east, I mean, a lot of

36:44

people are, I'm kind of, I'm between two

36:47

here. So VC you over BYU in

36:49

the first round. I love the

36:51

match up. It is tough situationally,

36:53

right? VCU has their Sunday conference

36:55

championship win. And then. they

36:57

have to go to Denver to play BYU

36:59

on Thursday, quick turnaround. And I

37:02

think the one question has always

37:04

been about the Mountain West and

37:06

about these elevation teams, BYU

37:09

included, New Mexico. When they come

37:11

down to sea level, are they as good? Do

37:13

they have an outsized advantage at the

37:15

home court because of where they play?

37:17

Well, BYU doesn't have to come down to

37:19

C level to play this game. They get

37:22

to play up at, up at elevation. So

37:24

that does work in work in their favor.

37:26

is making the Sweet 16 in my bracket.

37:28

And then my other upset, not first round,

37:31

but St. Mary's to beat Alabama. I think

37:33

people fell in love with the Alabama

37:35

team last year, which made all the way to

37:37

the Final Four, which rode some hot shooting,

37:39

which made some incredible plays down the

37:41

stretch, but it's easy to forget. Like

37:43

they were really in a sweat and tied

37:45

with Grand Canyon with like four minutes

37:48

to go. And they pulled that game

37:50

out very late against Carolina. The margins

37:52

are not very big for this Alabama

37:55

team. You mentioned extra second chance opportunities.

37:57

Alabama's shot volume numbers are not.

37:59

not all that impressive. They're a shot

38:01

making team. And so if the shots

38:04

go in, yeah, they're gonna win. But

38:06

if they just have an off-ish shooting

38:08

night, Mary's is a rebounding juggernaut, and

38:10

Mary's is very comfortable. They play in

38:12

Zaga three times every year. They're very

38:14

comfortable slowing down a transition juggernaut and

38:16

forcing them to play in the half

38:18

court. I think Mary's is a sneaky

38:20

underdog, and I actually have them in

38:22

my bracket making it all the way

38:24

to the lead eight. So I'll probably

38:26

forget that, I'll probably regret that, but

38:28

Mary's and I think this is your

38:30

maybe Randy Bennett squad finally makes another

38:32

second weekend. And I like that call

38:34

too because it goes back to what

38:36

you're saying about Florida being able to

38:38

slow down Alabama the fastest team in

38:40

the country to have a team that

38:42

plays so slow to get them in

38:44

a game in the half court to

38:46

slow them down to basically say hey

38:48

Mark Sears you beat us. Let's put

38:50

down to the Midwest. You like Houston

38:52

as the favorite. Who do you like

38:54

as the upset down here? So I

38:56

didn't pick a single upset in the

38:58

first round. Okay. So I have a

39:00

lot of chalk here. I mean, I

39:02

think McNeese and High Point are both

39:04

gonna get a lot of love. High

39:06

Point's a really interesting team because the

39:08

best team they played all year was

39:10

North Texas. And their defense doesn't look

39:12

like it holds up against any competent

39:14

competition. So I feel like Purdue maybe

39:16

might be able to name their score

39:18

here. I do have Clemson beating Purdue,

39:20

so I took Clemson to make the

39:22

Sweet 16. We talked about them on

39:24

Through the Ringer last week. I think

39:26

Clemson, if they had been put in

39:28

a better section and didn't have to

39:30

place Houston there, I might have had

39:32

them going even further. But yeah, Clemson

39:34

to make the Sweet 16. And you

39:36

know, I think the big question is,

39:38

Kentucky is similar to Alabama, or Kentucky

39:40

has a bunch of injury questions now.

39:42

So there's some real uncertainty about them.

39:44

Could that open the door? for the

39:47

Alaini, but the problem is like what

39:49

Alaini are showing up? They're the team

39:51

that if you pick them to go

39:53

to the elite eight, they'll bust your

39:55

bracket because they're going to lose to

39:57

Xavier or Texas. But if you pick

39:59

them to lose in the first round,

40:01

they'll probably make the final four. So

40:03

they're a really tough, tough solve the

40:05

Alaini this season. I don't understand them

40:07

last year. I don't understand them this

40:09

year, so. You never know who's going

40:11

to show up. I just can't bet

40:13

on them having a string of games

40:15

that are consistent. You know what I

40:17

mean? When I look at Illinois, it's

40:19

like Bob Knight used to say, never

40:21

judge a team by their best game,

40:23

never judge a team by their worst

40:25

game, never judge a team by their

40:27

worst game, try to find somewhere in

40:29

the middle, right? Like Illinois, the middle

40:31

was even strange. Like we don't even

40:33

know what the middle is. We don't

40:35

know if it's top half middle or

40:37

bottom half middle or bottom half middle,

40:39

because that's middle, because that's half middle

40:41

or bottom half middle, because that's middle,

40:43

because that's half middle, because that's, because

40:45

that's just how stark the bottom half

40:47

middle, because that's just how stark the

40:49

I like that call and like you

40:51

said this is probably the chalkiest region

40:53

that's why I feel like every bracket

40:55

you see is Houston versus Tennessee in

40:57

the elite to go to the final

40:59

four that's just kind of what it

41:01

is let's go to the west you

41:03

like Florida as the favorite who do

41:05

you like is the upset down here

41:07

yeah so I have Texas Tech over

41:09

Johns I have Florida Maryland so I

41:11

do have one four three two I'm

41:13

sorry I got lost with Florida you

41:15

like Texas Tech is a favorite sorry

41:17

yeah upset we're down to the upset

41:19

my bed to the upset my bed

41:21

about that Yeah, who is the, who

41:23

is the upset in Colorado State, Memphis?

41:25

Because this is the most fascinating conundrum.

41:27

I think if you're filling out bracket

41:29

pools and you go on ESPN right

41:32

now, the majority of the people are

41:34

picking Memphis as the five-seat. And then,

41:36

you know, the guy who wants to

41:38

be sharp, you know, at the water

41:40

cooler is saying, you know, I really

41:42

like Colorado State as an upset. But

41:44

if you go pull up a sports

41:46

book, Colorado State's minus two and a

41:48

two and a favorite. Not insignificant significant

41:50

favorite. So how do you call it

41:52

like that? The hottest people in the

41:54

country right now, like they have the

41:56

most momentum in the country. They're shooting

41:58

46% from three in the last 10

42:00

games. They want all 10. But I'm

42:02

getting, I'm getting similar vibes to New

42:04

Mexico from last year with this Colorado

42:06

State team. Colorado State, peaks at the

42:08

right time, goes through the conference. The

42:10

only reason they get in is because

42:12

of that. New Mexico last year, same

42:14

thing. They went four and four to

42:16

win Mountain West. They beat San Diego

42:18

State on the final day. They beat

42:20

Colorado State. They were playing really well,

42:22

playing their best basketball. They were a

42:24

10 seed. They were playing really well,

42:26

playing their best basketball. They were a

42:28

10 seed who was minus two and

42:30

a half in the first round against

42:32

7 seed Clemson. Everybody, including myself, and

42:34

sure enough. They were absolutely destroyed and

42:36

the game was over at the under

42:38

12th So I kind of think Colorado

42:40

State might be heading down the similar

42:42

path Okay, and have a you know

42:44

a neat clipper. It is great. I

42:46

love Colorado State. I'm wearing the shirt

42:48

feel a sac religious betting against Nico,

42:50

but if you kind of sort the

42:52

data Memphis is Ken Palm metrics aren't

42:54

that good. That's because Memphis doesn't destroy

42:56

the bad teams in the AAC like

42:58

they maybe could or should. They kind

43:00

of sleepwalk through those bad games. They

43:02

play with their food. Right. The AAC

43:04

tournament, it was kind of like, oh,

43:06

they got it to single digits. Let's,

43:08

Dane Danger, you get us on a

43:10

6-0 run here and then you get

43:12

us on a 6-0 run here. And

43:15

then they're like, you get us on

43:17

a 6-0 run here and then they're

43:19

like back up by 6-0 run. You

43:21

get us on a 6-0 run. Memphis

43:23

has an angle too where they're like,

43:25

we keep getting screwed and Pinney has

43:27

to send a message to his haters,

43:29

which is, I like where your line

43:31

of thinking is right here. And Memphis

43:33

and the non-con, much more impressive resume

43:35

than anything Colorado State did. And then

43:37

the other part of this, we saw

43:39

Memphis play in the first round two

43:41

years ago against a Mountain West team,

43:43

Boise State, and they kind of rolled

43:45

Boise State, and they kind of rolled

43:47

Boise, had its limitations. you know, the

43:49

two guards, but I just, I've gotten

43:51

to my head, I feel like this

43:53

is a little bit too much love

43:55

for Colorado State, so Memphis is my

43:57

quote unquote. upset pick in a plus

43:59

two and a half is the five

44:01

seed. But the thing is, like I

44:03

said, in brackets, you might have more

44:05

leverage going with Colorado State just because

44:07

the majority of the people, the average

44:09

college hoops fan, will see Memphis, and

44:11

they'll say, oh yeah, I know Memphis,

44:13

Memphis, into the next round. What are

44:16

your thoughts on Drake? It does feel

44:18

like Drake is one of those teams

44:20

that everybody and the water cooler guy,

44:22

he knows about Drake, he knows they

44:24

have D2 players, he knows Ben mixed

44:27

something. He doesn't know it's McCollin, but

44:29

he knows this mixed something and he

44:31

knows this mixed something and he knows

44:33

this mixed something and he likes this

44:35

mixed something and he likes this team

44:38

and now he's talking about them

44:40

making a team and he's talking like

44:42

the water cooler conversation. he comes in

44:44

the day after the game and he's

44:46

like did you see the Drake A man they had

44:48

it they had him beat they were up

44:50

double digits and then Miami they they choked

44:53

and like but I was I was right

44:55

it should have been Drake and then he

44:57

does it again and now different core different

44:59

coach same thing though do you trust the

45:01

guy the third time when he comes up

45:03

and he says hey I really like Drake this

45:05

year to pull off an upset yeah that guy

45:07

is me I have been on Drake last two

45:10

years the boy who tried Drake that's it So

45:12

I got one more in me. I'm going to

45:14

pick Drake only because I like I said I have

45:16

Texas Tech going through that section and to

45:18

be honest like these 6-11 7-10-8-9 games when

45:21

you only have them going one round It's

45:23

not going to make or break your bracket.

45:25

Yeah, I do think the spread's a little

45:27

high and Drake could get Drake and get

45:29

you in the half court and really

45:31

grind down games and make Missouri. That's

45:34

my one thing about the SEC and maybe

45:36

why they end up a little overrated

45:38

in this tournament is that so many of

45:40

these teams like to play this running gun style, up

45:42

and down, get up, you know, score a bunch of

45:44

points. The tournament traditionally isn't like that. You

45:46

know, you'll get games, but for the

45:49

most part, teams want to force you

45:51

into the half-court more, especially the late

45:53

game. What does Missouri look like there versus Drake?

45:55

And if Drake has to operate there, I think

45:57

they can score on just about anybody in the...

45:59

in the late half court, but especially Missouri,

46:02

whose defense has really fallen off a cliff

46:04

here in the second half. Yeah, and that

46:06

was Mazoo's calling card, and that's the reason

46:08

they looked so good, you know, back in

46:11

January, February, and like you said, they've kind

46:13

of fallen off a cliff there. There's some

46:15

bracket specials that we have on Fando right

46:18

now, and they have number of number one

46:20

seeds to reach the final four. You can

46:22

get. at 0 and plus 1,000 that's the

46:24

heavy favorite there four is plus 1600 as

46:27

well you have three based on your favorite

46:29

favorites going to the final four and you

46:31

could get that number plus 290 you locking

46:34

that in you like three number one seeds

46:36

in the final four yeah and it goes

46:38

back to what I said earlier about you

46:40

know the Will Warren stat about just how

46:43

dominant these one seeds have been from an

46:45

efficiency perspective and you know the spreads on

46:47

some of these teams are gonna be bigger

46:50

than they usually have to go back to

46:52

last year When North Carolina played Michigan State

46:54

in the second round, the spread was three

46:56

and a half. This year, like Auburn Louisville,

46:59

I think we were all like, oh, that

47:01

could be a tough game for Auburn. They're

47:03

gonna be like mine is nine and a

47:05

half, 10 point favorites here. So it's a

47:08

much bigger ladder to climb to pull some

47:10

of these upsets just based on how these

47:12

teams grade out metrically. And honestly, for that

47:15

reason, I only picked one team seated 13

47:17

or lower to win a first round game

47:19

and it was Yale. Like I have Zona

47:21

going on, I have Clemson, Purdue, Maryland I

47:24

think will be fine. So only one team

47:26

seated 13 or below that I think will

47:28

win and it's the course the Ivy who

47:31

always seems to have a moment here in

47:33

March. Yeah, and I blame Seth Davis because

47:35

he calls out every single one of these

47:37

upsets and basically jinxes it from happening as

47:40

soon as High Point gets shown and they're

47:42

celebrating. He's like, I'm taking High Point over

47:44

Purdue. Alan Huss and everyone's like, are you

47:47

kidding me? Is this really happening right now?

47:49

This is my nightmare. So I'm like, are

47:51

you kidding me? Is this really happening right

47:53

now? This is my nightmare. You could get

47:56

that's my nightmare. You could get that. So

47:58

that would be a three three. Yeah, plus

48:00

five. You could get that. I'm curious. What

48:03

do you think? Who's the craziest team that

48:05

you could see and be like that team

48:07

could make the final four because I have

48:09

one. I think it's an eight seed. I

48:12

don't know what eight seed it is. I

48:14

think it's Gonzaga. I think that would be

48:16

my eight seed pick that can make the

48:18

final four. And if you did an eight

48:21

seed, that would be plus 500, which is

48:23

by the better odds, better odds than the

48:25

seven odds than the seven. or the four

48:28

seed making the final fours. So it seems

48:30

like the odds makers are worried about the

48:32

eight seeds as well. So I would go

48:34

Gonzaga. What about you? Well, you got the

48:37

eight seed line this year. You have the

48:39

Gonzaga who is the third favorite in that

48:41

region. And then Yukon, who will have some

48:44

inertia as the two-time defending champs, even though,

48:46

you know, couldn't see them doing it. But

48:48

the team I like is low of all.

48:50

You know, I talked short-handed. You know, UNC

48:53

wouldn't surprise me to see them in the

48:55

second weekend. They're going to be a favorite,

48:57

I think, against all this if they get

49:00

there. And then, you know, I would say

49:02

they can hang with them. A little, a

49:04

little tangent here. That's my favorite thing that's

49:06

happening right now. Like obviously it's a crime

49:09

that Carolina got in the tournament, right? That's

49:11

what everyone says on TV. It's a crime

49:13

they got in the tournament. But immediately they

49:15

say, however, or with that being said. I

49:18

have them going to the Sweet 16 and

49:20

it is like it's without it like every

49:22

single time. It's like get them out of

49:25

my face. This is an absolute travesty. They

49:27

should be sued. We should get rid of

49:29

the Instead Committee. With that being said, I

49:31

like North Carolina getting the Sweet 16. It's

49:34

my favorite thing going right now. But back

49:36

to what we were discussing. Great tangent. You're

49:38

not wrong on that. And some of the

49:41

comps for North Carolina on the bar tour

49:43

of a comp machine. have them winning a

49:45

game or two so and that's beyond not

49:47

even counting the game on Tuesday against San

49:50

Diego State so there's some there's some love

49:52

for the not from the media but from

49:54

the metrics like the metrics media mafia I've

49:57

always had a contentious relationship with because like

49:59

I like the basketball speaking for itself sometimes

50:01

and when people start giving me you know

50:03

numbers as opposed to what actually happened in

50:06

the game like especially after the fact like

50:08

I watched the game happen and they're like

50:10

well this is what actually should have happened

50:12

it's like no I just watched it happen

50:15

so I'm done with this I'm not doing

50:17

a retroactive captain hindsight here but it's very

50:19

funny now that now the metrics are the

50:22

ones that are basically getting North Carolina into

50:24

the field and I've had to go a

50:26

complete complete 180 I love math and I

50:28

love the metrics and thank you to the

50:31

metric media mafia shout out to you guys.

50:33

got you guys in the tournament. I did,

50:35

I did kind of have a moment when

50:38

they had the selection committee on to talk

50:40

about how they picked the field and give

50:42

their like PR answers after the bracket gets

50:44

revealed. And the guy's like, yeah, you know,

50:47

we really incorporated Bart Torvik this year. I

50:49

was like, imagine six years ago, if you

50:51

had went to like the media nerd number

50:54

math, what do you call them? The metrics

50:56

media mafia, who I consider myself part of.

50:58

Okay, like six years ago. We were doing

51:00

Bart Torvik before anybody knew who Bart was,

51:03

great guy on Twitter by the way, Twitter

51:05

with him a bunch. And it's, it's like,

51:07

imagine him having input. The fact that that's

51:10

now a thing we talk about, that Bart

51:12

Torvik, who is like the second cousin of

51:14

Ken Palm, and in some ways, you know,

51:16

as good if not better than Ken Palm

51:19

for some of the metrics he has. He

51:21

might have marked and corrected Ken Palm, but

51:23

I think. it's crazy how far we've come

51:25

and I think it's ultimately better for the

51:28

sport but I don't want to end up

51:30

where some college football debates go where it's

51:32

like well you know Alabama went eight and

51:35

five this year, but on a neutral field,

51:37

we'd make them a favorite against this 12

51:39

in one team, Indiana, so they can't get

51:41

in the field. Or they should be in.

51:44

And that's a little too much. Yeah, like

51:46

the college football argument was basically like on

51:48

a neutral site, who's the favorite? That should

51:51

be who's in. And if you did that

51:53

for the NCAA tournament, people with heads explode

51:55

and be like, what are you talking about?

51:57

But it's literally the exact same thing. you

52:00

go title pick. This is obviously something

52:02

that everybody asked that when you do

52:04

your bracket to fill it out. We

52:06

got the national championship odds here courtesy

52:08

a fan. Duke is the favorite of

52:11

plus 290 Florida plus 340 Auburn plus

52:13

550 Houston plus 600. Those are the

52:15

one seed those are the odds and

52:17

then the next closest is Alabama plus

52:19

2,000 Tennessee plus 2300. Who do you

52:21

have winning the national championship?

52:24

Play Hue Lewis in the news it's

52:26

hip to be square. I'll take the

52:28

Duke Blue Devils. They have actually taken

52:30

money. I mean, I bet them at

52:33

plus 350, about an hour after

52:35

the bracket came out. Now they're

52:37

down to plus 290. I think a

52:39

lot of people are starting to,

52:41

it's setting in a bit. One,

52:44

just how good they are. Two,

52:46

just how kind of soft this

52:48

region is, where it wouldn't shock

52:50

me if they got to play

52:52

a non-elite team in the elite

52:54

eight with Alabama potentially going.

52:56

2012 Kentucky, 2016, 2016,

52:59

Arizona, 2010, Duke, 2008,

53:01

Kansas, 2015, Duke, 2015,

53:03

Kentucky, 2014, Arizona. All of

53:06

those teams, except for one,

53:08

made the final four, and six

53:10

of those teams won the national

53:13

title. So that's just what we're

53:15

dealing with here. And if I'm

53:17

gonna be wrong, I'm happy to

53:20

be wrong with the best team. I'm

53:22

right there. It pains me to pick

53:24

Duke, by the way. No, this is

53:26

my nightmare. I do think someone, you

53:29

know, you kind of put up the

53:31

bat signal and you say someone has

53:33

to stop these guys as a Carolina

53:35

guy myself, like someone has to go

53:38

out there and actually try to stop

53:40

these guys, I don't think someone has

53:42

to go out there and actually try

53:44

to stop these guys, I don't think

53:47

they can lose, to go out there

53:49

and actually try to stop these guys,

53:51

I don't think that they could, you

53:53

know, throw some different... junk defenses to

53:55

maybe throw them off, get Cooper flagging

53:57

his head a little bit. So Oregon.

53:59

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know, things like that, and maybe stay

58:32

away from some of the obvious ones,

58:34

but I kind of feel like Fandel

58:37

should be seating these teams anyway, because

58:39

you do have some seeds that are

58:41

higher than the lower seeds that are

58:43

favored. So it gets a little weird.

58:45

I can't do enough. It is the

58:47

best. It is a little bit wonky,

58:50

right? Because there are the seed lines,

58:52

but then there are the actual lines,

58:54

and that can get confusing. An example

58:56

of that Colorado State versus Memphis, Colorado

58:58

State is favored in that game by

59:01

about two and a half. Memphis is

59:03

obviously the five seed, Colorado State is

59:05

favored in that game by about two

59:07

and a half. Memphis is obviously the

59:09

five seed, Colorado State's the five seed,

59:11

Colorado State's favored in that game by

59:13

about two and a half. Who do

59:15

you? in this one, so. I have

59:18

the winner of this going to the

59:20

final four. No, I don't. By the

59:22

way, speaking of brackets, if someone wins,

59:24

one of these years, one of these

59:26

outer bracket teams is gonna win

59:28

three games. It's gonna screw everything

59:30

up. So the aesthetics are already

59:33

messed up. I'll take Xavier minus

59:35

two and a half. You know, it's a

59:37

small number with the Musketeers, seven

59:39

game winning streak before dropping a

59:41

close one to Marquette in the

59:43

Big East quarterfinal. Zach Fremantle, good

59:45

inside force. Texas doesn't seem to

59:47

have that. And Xavier has won at least one

59:49

game in each of the last five, thorny appearances.

59:52

Sean Miller puts together a W and

59:54

a cover. They avenged the 12-point loss

59:56

from a couple years ago in a

59:58

tournament. They should have the. route advantage to

1:00:00

going from Cincinnati area traveling to Dayton. So

1:00:03

give me 7368 musketeers. Yeah, it does feel

1:00:05

like all things are pointing toward Xavier making

1:00:07

a run to the Sweet 16. I actually

1:00:09

like them over Kentucky in the second round.

1:00:12

So I think they get past Texas. Texas

1:00:14

is a team that I like the talent

1:00:16

of this team, Trey Johnson, Tremont, Mark, those

1:00:18

two guys in the back court, but it

1:00:20

does seem, Mark, those two guys in the

1:00:23

back court, it feels, if you watch those

1:00:25

two guys in the back court, it feels,

1:00:27

if you watch those two guys in the

1:00:29

back court, but it, Mark, Mark, those two

1:00:32

guys in the two guys in the two

1:00:34

guys in the, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, those

1:00:36

two guys in the two guys in the,

1:00:38

Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, of the umbrage

1:00:41

that was sent towards North Carolina. Maybe Xavier

1:00:43

deserved a little bit of that as well.

1:00:45

They were able to avoid that. So all

1:00:47

things are pointing towards X. I like them

1:00:50

in this game. Next up line look ahead.

1:00:52

We got American taking on Mount St. Mary's

1:00:54

plus two and a half and this one.

1:00:56

Who do you like in this one? I

1:00:58

know you've been watching these teams all season

1:01:01

long. Yeah, oh yeah, I can't get enough

1:01:03

of these teams. In fact, I'm going to

1:01:05

be sad when one of them goes away.

1:01:07

Yeah, one 28 and a half seems a

1:01:10

little low. I was going to maybe jump

1:01:12

on the over. They're similar to these teams.

1:01:14

Both won their conference tournaments, obviously. Both of

1:01:16

these schools went 22 and 12 in the

1:01:19

regular season. Both have four game winning streaks.

1:01:21

Mount St. Marys, 21 and 12 against a

1:01:23

spread. I don't know, neither is good, but

1:01:25

my deciding factor is American lost by 52

1:01:28

to your crap tar heels. So they should

1:01:30

be relegated to whatever tournament is too below

1:01:32

the NIT. Did me, he's Mount St. Mary's

1:01:34

plus two and a half. I like that.

1:01:37

They're gonna have to take some of the

1:01:39

pain now that they have lost to Carolina

1:01:41

about that amount. They also should not belong

1:01:43

in the tournament. I'm gonna go with American,

1:01:45

a couple of my good friends out here,

1:01:48

they went to American, they went to American,

1:01:50

they went to American, they went to American,

1:01:52

they went to American, they went to American,

1:01:54

they went to American, they went to American,

1:01:57

they went to American, they went to American,

1:01:59

they went to American, they went to American,

1:02:01

they went to American, they went to American,

1:02:03

they went to American, they went to American,

1:02:06

they went to American, they went to American,

1:02:08

they're gonna have to, they're gonna have to,

1:02:10

they're gonna have to, they're gonna have to

1:02:12

take some, they're gonna have to take some,

1:02:15

they're gonna have to take some, they're gonna

1:02:17

have to take some, they're gonna have to

1:02:19

take some, they're gonna have to take some,

1:02:21

they're They're 20th in the countries. So American,

1:02:23

they protect the basketball, I like teams that

1:02:26

do that in March, so I'm gonna take

1:02:28

them to win this game. If you go

1:02:30

to Fandel Sportsbook right now, they got a

1:02:32

lot of specials up, Sow, and a lot

1:02:35

of different ways that you can bet the

1:02:37

NCAA tournament, you can basically, you can bet

1:02:39

the NCAA tournament, you can basically decide if

1:02:41

you can do some futures, you can do

1:02:44

some parlays, I wanted to run by you,

1:02:46

they're calling it the One Shining Parlay, you

1:02:48

can get it at plus 342. What do

1:02:50

you think about that? Do you like it?

1:02:53

I mean, I love it because I have

1:02:55

both teams to make the final four. So

1:02:57

I'd even go further with Michigan State there.

1:02:59

But plus 348 for Michigan State to win,

1:03:01

I guess that would be three games. Right

1:03:04

now, I'm good. I like that. I have

1:03:06

a similar one with Duke Final Four and

1:03:08

Maryland to make the Sweet 16. You don't

1:03:10

get a lot for it. I think it's

1:03:13

like plus 180. I like this Maryland team.

1:03:15

I really do. The Crab Five, right? They

1:03:17

had nice Big Ten wins. They call them

1:03:19

the Crab Five because they're not very deep.

1:03:22

If one of them gets hurt, they're kind

1:03:24

of screwed. Not a deep bench. They lost

1:03:26

to Michigan State by three. They lost to

1:03:28

Michigan by one on Saturday in the semi-finals

1:03:31

of the Big Ten tournament. I think they

1:03:33

just get by Bryce Drew's Grand Canyon team

1:03:35

and then Memphis or Colorado State. Should be

1:03:37

easy enough. Kevin Willard, let's go. It also

1:03:40

feels like Maryland if you've been watching this

1:03:42

season. They have had four games that have

1:03:44

ended in buzzer beaters that have just been

1:03:46

absolutely heartbreaking. The most recent was against Michigan,

1:03:48

Trey Dallinson drills down the entire court, nobody

1:03:51

stops the ball. He finishes and wins the

1:03:53

game with the left-handed layup. They had the

1:03:55

tray hollum with the left-handed layup. They had

1:03:57

the tray hollum and heave from half-court at

1:04:00

home against Michigan State, right. So they've had

1:04:02

some bad things. to go against them. What

1:04:04

do you like here as a special? This

1:04:06

is ballsy, Tate. I'm going no SEC teams

1:04:09

in the final four, maybe like a quarter

1:04:11

of the... bracket is SEC teams. If you

1:04:13

get rid of the 16 seeds, yeah, so

1:04:15

if it's 14, it's essentially 14 out of.

1:04:18

That'll like 50 really right because if you

1:04:20

get rid of the 16 seasons a couple

1:04:22

of 15s anyway I have Houston Michigan State

1:04:24

Duke and Maryland in the final four incidentally

1:04:26

that pays 172 no SEC teams in the

1:04:29

final four plays pays plus 750 lots of

1:04:31

good teams and not in the SEC Tate

1:04:33

if you don't like the ones I just

1:04:35

named how about St. John's how about Wisconsin

1:04:38

how about Michigan about Illinois I think the

1:04:40

big 10 makes more noise than people expect

1:04:42

The SEC teams could be exhausted from playing

1:04:44

each other at high level all year. Yeah,

1:04:47

and a lot of times when you had

1:04:49

these super conferences and everyone's talking about how

1:04:51

great they are, we've seen it with the

1:04:53

big 12 in recent memory, it feels like

1:04:56

it doesn't go their favor when we get

1:04:58

to the actual incident. It feels like it

1:05:00

doesn't go their favor when we get to

1:05:02

the actual incident, a tournament, or a tournament.

1:05:04

It feels like it doesn't go their favor

1:05:07

when we get to the actual. you saw

1:05:09

another special worst seed to reach the final

1:05:11

four. They got all the odds here. I'm

1:05:13

gonna take an eight seed to make the

1:05:16

final four and more specifically I'm gonna take

1:05:18

the eight seed Gonzaga. Now you don't have

1:05:20

to pick which eight seed is gonna be

1:05:22

there. You can get the odds. You don't

1:05:25

have to pick which eight seed is going

1:05:27

to be there. You can get the odds

1:05:29

at plus 500. I think Louisville has a

1:05:31

plus 500. I think. So it does feel

1:05:34

like the odds makers are worried about these

1:05:36

eight seeds and you can get some value

1:05:38

at plus 500. That's pretty good. You know

1:05:40

what I'll book that bad because it's not

1:05:43

going to win. But that's fine. Let's go.

1:05:45

Should we go to Thursday games? Yeah. That's

1:05:47

a good. That's a good. Yeah. That's a

1:05:49

good. That's a good. Should we go to

1:05:51

Thursday games? Yeah. That's a good. That's a

1:05:54

good. That's a good. That's a good. That's

1:05:56

a good. That's a good. That's a good.

1:05:58

That's a good. That's a good. That's a

1:06:00

good. That's a good. That's a good. That's

1:06:03

a good. That's a good. That's a good.

1:06:05

That's a good. That's a good. That's a

1:06:07

good. That's a good. That's a good. That's

1:06:09

a good. That's a good. That's a good.

1:06:12

That's a good. That's a good. That's a

1:06:14

good. first games and you get plus 159.

1:06:16

You're getting a ton because St. John's is

1:06:18

just such a huge favorite. They'll be like

1:06:21

minus 3,500, but plus 159. This is the

1:06:23

greatest Italian American matchup. since Marino Montana back

1:06:25

in 85 I think 40 years ago gives

1:06:27

Tommy DeVito a nice little break from the

1:06:29

Italian stereotypical jokes. Where is Sean Stallado? He's

1:06:32

got to be at this game. Where is

1:06:34

Sean Stallado too? He should be there. But

1:06:36

it's also what everybody wants to see so

1:06:38

it's not going to happen and we're going

1:06:41

to see Kansas and will self-self ruin it.

1:06:43

But anyway, I'm going with the parla. I'm

1:06:45

doing a Patino Calipari plus 159. I like

1:06:47

that. And I like that they have odds

1:06:50

on that. Shut up to our friends at

1:06:52

Fandel for making that possible. I do feel

1:06:54

like the wise guys, like if it is

1:06:56

Patino Calipari, like all of the wise guys

1:06:59

should get together on the East Coast, take

1:07:01

a trip up to Providence and watch this,

1:07:03

take a trip up to Providence and watch

1:07:05

this game, and watch the East Coast, take

1:07:07

a trip up to Providence and watch this

1:07:10

game, and watch, take a trip up to

1:07:12

Providence and watch this. You can make your

1:07:14

own concoctions and decide what you want to

1:07:16

do for March Madness. Let's track to the

1:07:19

future here. Last thing before we go, you're

1:07:21

best bet, Sal. If you look at the

1:07:23

whole landscape, you look at all the specials,

1:07:25

you say, my gut, my heart, my head,

1:07:28

everything is telling me this is the best

1:07:30

bet for March. You know, that's my favorite

1:07:32

tab on Fandel, the MYOC, make your own

1:07:34

concoctions as Tate. Two number one seeds to

1:07:37

reach the final four at plus 135. I

1:07:39

think you like this as well. Now four

1:07:41

number ones has only happened once in 2008

1:07:43

since they did this. When they do the

1:07:46

64 teams and back in 85, right? So

1:07:48

we're talking 40 years only happened once. Three

1:07:50

number one seeds making it only happen five

1:07:52

times two is the magic number tape. That's

1:07:54

the sweet spot. Houston and Duke for me.

1:07:57

That's it plus 135 not a great payment

1:07:59

but that's what it's going to be yeah

1:08:01

I'm right there with you I think number

1:08:03

one seeds. My two my flavor I'm gonna

1:08:06

go Duke in Florida but again I think

1:08:08

it's gonna be two one seeds they're in

1:08:10

the final four the fact that you can

1:08:12

get plus money there is great and I

1:08:15

think that Duke's gonna make the final four

1:08:17

I think they're gonna make the national championship

1:08:19

game and I think they're gonna make the

1:08:21

national championship game and I think they're gonna

1:08:24

go win the national championship game and even

1:08:26

if they don't win the national championship game

1:08:28

and even if they don't. Duke continues to

1:08:30

win and win and win. So if you

1:08:32

want to bet now, Cooper Flag MOP, I

1:08:35

think that is the best bet of the

1:08:37

tournament. So I love Duke. It took us

1:08:39

a whole 25, 30 minutes, whatever it is,

1:08:42

I knew it, I knew deep down, you

1:08:44

loved Duke, hey, congratulations. Must be a

1:08:46

ring. What a 180 it has been

1:08:48

in my life to get here at

1:08:50

this point. Last thing, we got to

1:08:53

promote Vegas, we got to promote Vegas.

1:08:55

I'll turn it over to you, That's

1:08:57

it. Thursday and Friday, 4 p.m. 10

1:08:59

p.m. it's a free watch party at

1:09:02

the Jimmy Kimmel Comedy Club. Some of

1:09:04

these places, Caesar's Palace, you have to

1:09:06

pay $400 to get a seat to watch

1:09:09

basketball. No, you'll get to watch

1:09:11

with us and it's the opposite. There's

1:09:13

prize money, thousands of dollars of prize

1:09:15

money and you get to shake hands

1:09:17

with me and Tate and Kenny Maine

1:09:19

and Harry will have his shirt off.

1:09:22

Lots of fun going on. Matthew Kyle will be

1:09:24

there. Yeah, come join us. Harry usually has a

1:09:26

few haters and hecklers in the building, which is

1:09:28

always fun to see. There's a lot of back

1:09:30

and forth. We had a great time last year.

1:09:32

We're going to have an even better time this

1:09:35

year. Come join us. Now, you're the best. Thanks

1:09:37

so much for coming to the show as always,

1:09:39

man. See you buddy. See you Thursday. All right, there

1:09:41

you have it. Cousin Sal, Anthony DeBundo. Thanks

1:09:43

to those guys for coming on the show.

1:09:45

We are officially here. There is NCAA tournament

1:09:48

basketball that is happening tonight. If you're listening

1:09:50

on Tuesday night, North Carolina will be playing

1:09:52

San Diego State. Pray for me as that

1:09:54

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1:09:56

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1:09:59

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