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Owen, thank you for coming back

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on the show three times times

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over the last five years. I

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think we're almost 900 episodes episodes and

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so you are one of of a handful

1:23

that have come back three times

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and we appreciate you being a

1:28

friend of the show you being a It's

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interesting. My name is Scott. This

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is Scott My I am talking

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with Scott Talks. I am talking with author, podcaster. a

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whole list of stuff a do list of

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stuff you stay busy. Yeah You stay busy. And

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what I was gonna say it's

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you're a global speaker you're a

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a certified coach helping how many people achieve. and

1:48

resilience. You've taught hundreds of taught

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hundreds of hundreds of thousands of women

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tools we've taught a lot of people, a lot of

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people a lot of strategies and tools

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to empower themselves to live their live their

1:59

most kick slide. And I feel like when

2:01

you come on the show, we're getting

2:03

these little windows into your life. Like

2:06

real, not just like, oh, I'm going

2:08

to be on a podcast, but you

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actually come on and say, hey, this

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is what's happening in my life right

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now, and that becomes the subject matter.

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And I think it's really cool. It's

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your whole brand, really, huh? Always has

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been. Yeah, it really has sort of

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by accident at first, and then it

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just kind of works. I'm just going

2:28

to go with it going to go

2:31

with it. Yeah, there's something to, you

2:33

know, you and Laura had an amazing

2:35

conversation if you guys are interested in

2:37

hearing this. You came on, Laura, the

2:40

show on Tuesday to talk about your

2:42

second divorce at almost 50, right? And

2:44

by the way, congratulations on 13 years

2:47

of sobriety along with that. Thank you.

2:49

And, uh, I will be 16 this

2:51

week, actually, that we, we recorded, yeah,

2:53

yeah. You said a couple of cool

2:56

things. You said, I think part of

2:58

spiritual growth is recognizing these challenges in

3:00

life sooner and quicker as things you

3:02

can get through. I think that that's

3:05

something that sobriety that was one of

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my first big spiritual experiences is realizing

3:09

that everything I thought was the worst

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thing that happened to me turned out

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to be the best thing. like what

3:16

you're saying in your journey is that

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even though this thing in front of

3:21

you might seem like the worst thing

3:23

you have experience that says it might

3:25

not be this might be the best

3:27

thing that happened and as you end

3:30

the long term I'm not even sure

3:32

how long were you married in this

3:34

this last marriage the second time almost

3:37

15 years together 16 yeah that's a

3:39

big chunk of your life to yeah

3:41

sort of I don't I don't want

3:43

to say good say goodbye to you

3:46

because you never get to say goodbye

3:48

to it but you're especially when you

3:50

have children Yeah, it's going to change

3:52

that life. So, do you think that

3:55

it's harder? Now, Lauren, I've never gotten

3:57

married. I don't know if that's like

3:59

a trauma response to our first marriages,

4:02

but it's worked really well for us

4:04

to make a decision each day to

4:06

be together. And do you think that

4:08

it's harder to leave a marriage at

4:11

this time in your life than a

4:13

relationship? I mean, I know you get

4:15

to work with a lot of people.

4:18

Do you see that the sort of

4:20

stigma, the idea of what a marriage

4:22

is supposed to look like? gives

4:25

it more weight and more intensity than

4:27

people who have been in relationships for

4:29

a long period of time. That's interesting

4:31

question. And I love it. And I

4:33

think that there's also, I imagine, I

4:35

don't know, but I was, so my

4:37

first marriage, because we started dating so

4:39

young, we were together for 10 years

4:42

before we got married. And there was,

4:44

I faced a lot of pressure. I

4:46

don't think that my... ex-boyfriend then-boyfriend faced

4:48

the pressure that I did, but I

4:50

faced a lot of pressure as to

4:52

why we weren't married. You know, if

4:54

you've been together so long, like, and

4:56

I got kind of like side-eyed of

4:59

like, what are you doing, Andrea, that

5:01

you can't get this man to marry

5:03

you. So I don't know if you

5:05

to experience that at this age, but

5:07

I think we did. When we first

5:09

started, when we were first together, we

5:11

got a lot of people who were

5:13

like, like, like, aren't you married, or

5:16

what do you married, or what do

5:18

you married, or what do you married,

5:20

or what do you, or what do

5:22

you, or what do you call it,

5:24

or what do you, or what do

5:26

you, or what do you, or what

5:28

do you, or what do you, or

5:30

what do you, or what do you,

5:33

or, or, or, or, or, or, or,

5:35

or, or, or, or, or, or, or,

5:37

or, or agreement between us that we

5:39

would not be put in a box

5:41

because other people it made them more

5:43

comfortable then and then I think Laura

5:45

was the one who pointed out that

5:47

you know by being this in this

5:50

relationship this way each day we made

5:52

a choice we weren't under some cloak

5:54

or contract that we were gonna you

5:56

know be married and get through whatever

5:58

we'll get through it on Thursday we'll

6:00

get through it next month okay it's

6:02

like one day at a time kind

6:04

of thing and anyway I I I

6:07

see a lot of people who respond

6:09

the way who who get that response

6:11

in the world like you like when

6:13

are you gonna get married or the

6:15

expectation and the idea yeah yeah I

6:17

think it's it's new wants and depending

6:19

on what age you are and things

6:21

like that. And I also think that

6:24

I never want to take away from

6:26

anyone's experience in terms of like how

6:28

quote unquote it is to leave either

6:30

a long-term relationship versus a marriage. I

6:32

think both are the same. However, when

6:34

you get the federal government involved in

6:36

your relationship, What I mean by that

6:38

is like when you get married and

6:41

you have assets and you have children

6:43

and money and all of these things

6:45

like it gets complicated so it's it's

6:47

harder I think logistically but I don't

6:49

think it's harder mentally or emotionally. Yeah

6:51

it seems like sometimes the sort of

6:53

federal aspect of if you will the

6:56

administrative aspect of a marriage can overshadow

6:58

the emotional then when it's all done

7:00

the emotional finds its way to the

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table if you will. Good way of

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putting it up. Well, yeah, I guess

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