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Welcome to another episode of Out of

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the Pods. I'm Deep Ti. And I'm

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Natalie. And welcome back, Deep Ti, for

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our Pod Besties You Don't Know between

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our two episodes. So since last week,

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Deep Ti was actually in California. So

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I haven't seen her or talked to

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her for an entire week, until now,

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really. Yeah, I've been very unplugged this

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trip. It was our entire family. And

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Natalie, this is so crazy, but I

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was the only single person there. I

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feel that. I've been in that position often.

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So you don't have to tell me twice. All

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I have to say is I was the fun

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aunt this entire trip. No,

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but it was my brother, his

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wife, all of her side of

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the family and our side of

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the family. And this was the

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first time that Divya, my little

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sister, brought her boyfriend. So that

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was like a huge milestone. And

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it was just me, myself and

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I. We went to Paso Robles.

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It's in California. It's about like

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three hours from LAX. And

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we got this beautiful

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Airbnb in the vineyards. I

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was like, if you ever,

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well, not me being like, if you've ever drank

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wine, I'm

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like, of course you've drank wine, but the Dow

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wine is what these vineyards

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were. Anyways. I

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don't think I've drunk enough wine to know

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what you're talking about. I knew you wouldn't be.

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That's why was like, if you drink wine,

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you would know this. And I was like, Natalie

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does not drink wine. And when I drink

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wine, I feel like it's always the $13 bottle.

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Whatever's cheapest at the local grocery store.

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That's what's funny about going to

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these vineyards is we went

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to so many. I think we went to

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five vineyards while we were there. And

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obviously you're just like wine tasting,

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wine tasting. And Natalie, after I

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feel like the first two wineries,

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I could not tell the difference

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between a $15 bottle and

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$100 bottle. I was just

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like, I think my palate is not

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that sophisticated. We have something

2:07

called the low budget palate. You know,

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like we don't need to find our

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things in life. No, and I'm really

2:14

happy about it because why would I

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want to spend $80 to $100 on

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a bottle of wine when I can

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get this same like taste and impact

2:22

for $15 or $20, you know?

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Because we can't tell the difference. You're totally right.

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Like we don't have a sophisticated palate. Like

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someone can give me a shot of alcohol

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that's like bottom of the barrel, you know, and

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I'd be like, this is gray goose. Yeah.

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I can't tell the difference. No,

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exactly. And I think for that

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reason, we are definitely blessed. But

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we got an Airbnb on

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this vineyard, and it's beautiful. It

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has a pool. It's

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just gorgeous, gorgeous property.

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There was emus on

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the farm. Yeah. There's

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little emus. Have you ever seen an emu

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before? They have the long necks, and they're

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pecking at food. You know

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what? I want to say I

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have. But when you watch too many videos,

3:07

you're like, Was that like something

3:09

I saw in real life or just like a

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TikTok video? Like I just can't. I'm

3:14

gonna send you a picture of an

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emu because for the longest time I

3:18

thought it was an ostrich but I

3:20

just kept thinking of like Liberty, Liberty.

3:24

Liberty Mutual uses the

3:26

emu as their bird. And

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we were doing it all weekend

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long but they had like llamas and

3:33

horses anyways. It was beautiful. Your

3:35

dream. My dream, you

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know, I love me. I love animals

3:40

around. I was like, should

3:42

I move here? But it was

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like a 40 acre property. It

3:46

was a six bedroom house. So obviously

3:48

when people are deciding rooms, it's like a

3:50

little awkward. You're low on the totem

3:52

pole. Do you know where I stayed? So

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inside of my parents'

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bedroom, they took the master

3:59

closet the bedroom and they

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put out a Murphy bed, the ones that

4:03

like go to the wall and down.

4:05

That was my bedroom inside of my parents'

4:08

room. You were Harry Potter. I

4:10

was Harry Potter. You're

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totally right. You were Harry

4:14

Potter in his closet. But I'm going

4:17

to be honest, when I travel with

4:19

my parents, we go to family gatherings

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where we'll rent a bigger house with

4:23

our extended family. My sister or I

4:25

will stay in the master closet. on

4:27

a bed, like a pullout mattress.

4:29

Because my mom is the oldest

4:31

sibling in her family. So

4:34

they always give her like the biggest room. And

4:36

it always comes with a big master closet. And

4:39

one of us are always in there. So I know exactly

4:41

what you feel like. Like that's what you get for being

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single. No, truly that's what you

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get for being single. But it was it was

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beautiful. But the fact that I had to say

4:49

in the master closet, I was like, I can't

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believe this is my life right now. The fact,

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though, you were able to stay in a six

4:55

-bedroom Airbnb, yes, in the master closet, but hey,

4:57

you had a pool, emus around. You were living

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the life. I was absolutely living the

5:01

life because my parents barely stayed in that

5:03

room anyway. So I was just like, look

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at me in my master closet. I have

5:07

all the privacy in the world. No

5:09

one is going to ever find me. Yeah, you

5:11

could pretend you're staying in a studio in New

5:13

York City. Exactly. That's the

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best bit. It was

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such a beautiful trip,

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though. Everything was also

5:22

revolved around my niece

5:24

because she is the light of our lives. How

5:26

old is she now? She's like less than

5:28

one still. She's eight months old.

5:31

And she's like learning little things.

5:33

And I would take her outside

5:35

in the morning because it was

5:37

so peaceful. And I'd be like,

5:39

look, it's cows. What do cows

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say? Moo. And she's

5:43

like, she's like, moo. It's so

5:45

cute because up until this point, she's

5:48

just been obviously like a newborn. Yeah.

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So she hasn't like said much or

5:53

interacted and the fact that she can

5:55

actually like understand what we're saying is

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just it's so beautiful to see. I

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love her so much. Makes me

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happy. I'm glad you had such

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a good time. I do have to

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say though, one thing about planes, I

6:07

love to watch a good plane movie.

6:10

And usually if like the destination's Cali,

6:13

it's like what, four hours? I'm

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like, perfect, two movies away from

6:17

my destination. That's like how I like

6:19

to time things. And I watched

6:21

this movie and I was bawling my

6:23

eyes out, Natalie, like on this

6:25

plane. And this person that was sitting

6:27

next to me looked over at

6:29

me and she was like, are you

6:31

okay? You're like

6:33

really crying a lot. And

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I was like, I'm sorry. It's just a really,

6:38

really sweet movie. Well, movie was it? It's

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called We Live in Time with

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Andrew Garfield. I know you would love a

6:44

good Andrew Garfield. movie. Do I wouldn't. What?

6:49

I was for sure that you would love

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it. I've never heard that movie before. I

6:54

don't think I've ever watched a movie

6:56

with Andrew Garfield except for Spider -Man. Well,

6:59

we'll see, so then you have. I

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feel like if I watch a movie

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with him in it, I'll be like,

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that's Spider -Man. It's like when I watch

7:07

movies that has one of the cast

7:09

members from Harry Potter, I'm like, that's

7:12

Ron Weasley. There is definitely certain characters

7:14

that you can never see outside of

7:16

their original film. That's why actors sometimes

7:18

get put in boxes for sure. But

7:20

the fact that when you think Andrew

7:22

Garfield, you think Spider -Man, it's obviously

7:24

Tom Holland. How

7:27

are you thinking Andrew Garfield? No, he

7:30

was Spider -Man at one point. No, he

7:32

definitely was. But when I think Spider

7:34

-Man, I don't think Andrew Garfield. I

7:36

think Tobi McGuire. Oh,

7:39

you went OG. Yes, Tobi

7:41

McGuire. my favorite Spider -Man. Actually, Tom

7:43

is, but Tobi's second. Oh, well,

7:45

Tobi's more like because that was

7:47

the first Spider -Man movie I saw.

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We digress. We digress. You're right.

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We digressed a little too hard.

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No, I was... much bawling my eyes out

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on this flight because I mean, I'm not

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going to go into the plot of the movie,

8:00

but it was really sad. And one

8:02

of the, you know, her, his partner's dying.

8:05

Anyways, I was bawling my eyes out

8:07

and this lady looks over at me and

8:09

she's like, are you okay? Like you

8:11

were like actually sobbing. And obviously I have

8:13

noise canceling headphones. So I can't even

8:15

tell that I'm like actually probably sobbing out

8:17

loud. But why is

8:19

it so embarrassing? No,

8:21

same. You know, when you're like crying, but

8:23

you don't want anyone to see? And then

8:25

your nose gets all stiffly. So you're like

8:27

trying to silently be like, yes.

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You're like, yeah. I'm

8:34

like, oh, not the Wells. I

8:36

don't even know why, but I even cried

8:39

at Moana, too, on this flight. I was

8:41

like, what is happening? I think

8:43

something about the altitude, something about being

8:45

a silent plane, it's like the perfect

8:47

scenario to have a little silent cry.

8:49

Yes. And that's exactly what it is.

8:51

I think now when I watch movies

8:53

at home, I'm so distracted by things.

8:55

I'm like, oh, look at the view.

8:57

Oh my gosh, someone's texting me. Where's

8:59

Natalie's flight? texting me. They should have

9:01

something. Again, she completely kills the mood.

9:03

So I'm like, ah, the

9:05

sad emotions completely fleeting away from me.

9:08

But I feel like on flights,

9:10

you're you fully immersed into every

9:12

single emotion that you feel. And

9:14

I'm like, oh, that's why. Yeah.

9:16

I mean, I think it's because you

9:19

can't do much on a flight. But

9:21

one thing that I do do that's

9:23

really bad is do you ever like

9:25

make up a scenario in your head

9:27

like something that didn't happen

9:29

and there's no chance of it

9:31

happening, but you like act

9:33

like it could happen and it makes

9:35

you cry. Like you make yourself

9:37

cry by like conjuring up this really

9:39

sad scenario. Does anyone know

9:42

what I'm saying? I'm very much nodding my

9:44

head, but no. I think that is,

9:46

I've never in my life done that. Sometimes

9:48

I would do this when I was

9:50

like in a relationship where I would fully

9:52

just make up a breakup scenario. there's

9:55

a whole dialogue and everything. And like

9:57

a reason we broke up that doesn't

9:59

exist in our current relationship. And

10:02

it's really just to make myself cry. Like you

10:04

just, you just make up a sad scenario to make

10:06

yourself cry. I don't know how to explain it.

10:08

Does anyone else do that? I don't

10:10

know if any podbest who's listening have

10:12

felt that, but I have not. But,

10:14

but what I can relate to is

10:16

like, I feel like the flights or

10:18

like when you're on a flight is

10:21

the perfect time to think about love.

10:23

Like it's I always, I don't know

10:25

why you're totally right about like

10:27

not creating fake scenarios, but you like

10:29

replay like beautiful things in your

10:31

head. Like I'm always, if I have

10:33

somebody on my mind, I'm constantly

10:35

thinking about that. So far from what

10:37

I do, I don't think about

10:40

anybody on my flights. Not

10:42

even me. No, you're like, no, just

10:44

me, myself and I. I'm like,

10:46

I'm not thinking about anybody. I'm just

10:48

thinking about scenarios that like pertain

10:50

to me. Interesting. Interesting.

10:52

Well, yeah, I think about love a lot,

10:55

but interesting. Hmm. Yeah, no, I don't think

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I would. I think that's relatable. I'm sure

10:59

some podbest is over there. They're like, we

11:01

do it too. Yeah. Podbest is if

11:03

you do relate, send it to Natalie. Deepty

11:07

and I had a conversation about this

11:09

recently. So we were talking about how when

11:11

you meet someone and they say, Hey,

11:13

how are you doing? Without thinking, we just

11:15

reply, I'm good. You, even if we're

11:17

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out of the pods. I

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think DeepD might be the odd one out,

12:22

but there is something I want to share

12:24

because DeepD feels like it's not normal, like

12:26

what I did. Like I messed up. And

12:28

maybe I did, but I was like, I,

12:30

you know, I think it was a, it

12:32

was a very understandable mess up. Remind

12:35

me of this mess up.

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Okay. Remember when I creeped

12:39

on New York boys friend?

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Do you know the story? Of course

12:44

I know the story. It's embedded into my

12:46

soul because you did so many things wrong. I

12:49

just want to give a warning. This is a really

12:51

hard story for me to tell. Like it brings me a

12:53

lot of shame. Like even thinking about it right now,

12:55

I'm getting a little bit sweaty. So. I

12:58

just I'm nervous that it will change

13:00

the way people view me. So let me

13:02

just explain step by step strap in

13:04

because it's kind of a long story. But

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let me just tell you like my

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thought process throughout this entire thing. OK, so

13:11

when I was dating New York boy,

13:13

he was asked to be a groomsman in

13:15

his friend's wedding. And he told me

13:17

who was getting married when the wedding was

13:19

where it was going to be. And

13:21

the bride to be had a really unique

13:23

name that just like stuck with me. So

13:27

anyways, obviously you guys know

13:29

New York boy and I broke up. He

13:31

cheated and then, you know, that was kind

13:33

of it. I never talked to him again.

13:36

But I knew that a month after

13:38

we broke up, that was the date

13:40

of that wedding. And New

13:42

York boy doesn't have social media. And,

13:44

you know, I was just like curious, like,

13:47

is he going to bring another girl to that

13:49

wedding? Like, how is he doing? Like,

13:51

you know, I was just like, I hope he looks horrible. Yeah,

13:53

you just want to keep a little bit of

13:55

tabs on him. Yeah, yeah. But it's hard

13:57

when he doesn't have social media. Like, what do I look

14:00

at his LinkedIn? Yeah, you're like, all

14:02

I have. Imagine posting statuses

14:04

on LinkedIn. You're like, oh, no.

14:06

So you're just like curious, like, you

14:08

know, are they struggling? Because they

14:10

should be. Is he crying

14:12

in any pictures? Yeah, exactly. I was

14:14

like, does he have puffy eyes? Did he

14:16

bring a date? Does he look like he's

14:18

excluded from the group other groomsmen? Like, because

14:20

he should. 100%. Side

14:22

note. The bride -to -be was

14:24

a pot bestie. She would comment on

14:26

some of our YouTube videos and Instagram

14:28

reels and I'm sure she heard from

14:30

New York boy that he was dating

14:32

me. So I think like

14:34

she knew, you know, like exactly who

14:36

I was and even though we

14:38

hadn't met there was like that personal

14:41

connection through like a mutual friend. So

14:43

anyways, I knew her wedding date and

14:45

she had a public Instagram profile. So

14:47

I was like, of course, When it

14:50

comes the time of her wedding, she'll

14:52

be like reposting or posting pictures and

14:54

videos on her Instagram story. And

14:56

I was like, OK, this is when I'm going to

14:58

creep because I'm sure New York boy is going to be

15:00

in some of those videos and photos. So

15:03

I create a fake Instagram because

15:05

obviously I'm not going to look at

15:07

her Instagram story using my actual

15:09

Instagram handle. Like that's so weird. I

15:12

was thinking of using out of the pods. That

15:15

would have been weirder. She'd probably be

15:17

like, what the heck? Anyways,

15:20

I create my first ever fake

15:22

Instagram handle, and I choose the

15:24

username, meow, meow, meow, meow, mix

15:26

one. And then I make the

15:28

profile photo, a black tabby cat,

15:30

like completely normal. Because

15:32

I that normal? Because I knew

15:35

that your finsta, deep -d, is

15:37

of an animal, like the profile

15:39

picture. Isn't it so funny that mine is

15:41

a dog and yours is a cat? It used to be

15:43

a cat. It's now deleted so you guys can't find

15:45

it. I was like, after this whole scenario, I was like,

15:47

God, delete this username. And

15:50

then I ended up following her. So she was

15:52

the only one on my following list. Okay.

15:55

Wrong number two. Which

15:58

DP told me after she's like, a

16:00

dumbass. And I was like, yeah, I am.

16:03

So anyways. come the

16:05

weekend of her wedding, you

16:07

know, I am checking her profile every

16:09

hour. She's posting and reposting her friends

16:11

Instagram stories of her wedding like every

16:14

hour. So I'm like looking at each

16:16

one. I'm probably the first one looking

16:18

at it. And after maybe like half

16:20

a day of just like looking at

16:22

her profile already 10 times, you

16:24

know, I go back. Obviously, I know

16:27

her username by heart. I'm literally, she's

16:29

the only person I'm following off this

16:31

fake Instagram account. Her profile goes away.

16:33

And I was like, that's so weird.

16:35

So I go to our out of

16:37

the pods Instagram page and I look

16:39

up her username. It's not there. And

16:41

I go to my actual Instagram page,

16:43

Natalie Mina Lee. I look

16:45

up her username no longer there. So

16:47

I'm like, she deleted her Instagram. I

16:50

was like, that is so crazy. I

16:52

wonder what happened. I was

16:55

like, oh my gosh. And

16:57

then I forgot if it was you or

16:59

my cousin first, but I was like,

17:01

telling the story, I was like, I don't

17:03

know what happened. Like, this probably deleted

17:05

her Instagram profile during the weekend of her

17:07

wedding. Like, something must have happened. Like,

17:09

how crazy is that? And I've read it

17:12

was you or my cousin who looked

17:14

up her username and they're like, nope, she

17:16

still exists. And I realized

17:18

she blocked me. But the

17:20

thing is, that username, meow, meow, meow, meow,

17:23

mix one. I used my

17:25

actual real life phone number to sign

17:27

up for that fake Instagram account. Guess.

17:31

What number that is also tied to? What

17:33

other accounts? Out of the pods and

17:35

my personal. So I think

17:37

when she blocked me, she said like

17:40

block any other like related accounts.

17:42

And so it obviously blocked all the

17:44

accounts associated with my phone number. And

17:48

yeah, that's the story. And she

17:50

probably thinks that like, I personally blocked

17:52

her and out of the pods

17:54

personally blocked her. She's probably like, these

17:56

girls are such bitches. Like what

17:58

did I do? Little

18:01

does she know that meow, meow,

18:03

meow, meow, meow. Little

18:05

does she know this is my fault

18:07

for creeping on her. She just saw

18:09

this weird cat account following just her

18:12

on their Instagram and she was just

18:14

protecting herself. And also, I'm pretty sure

18:16

that if a random account that recently

18:18

has followed you starts looking at your

18:20

stories, you're at the top of the

18:22

list. So she's like,

18:24

who is this random cat trying

18:26

to follow me? And then

18:28

she clicks on it and it's

18:30

just somebody following her only. She's

18:33

probably like, I have a stalker. DP was

18:35

like, your first mistake was just following her.

18:37

Like, she's probably like, who is this cat

18:39

account just following me? And she goes, secondly,

18:41

your other mistake was making such a long

18:43

username. It's so noticeable when she checks to

18:45

look at who looked at her Instagram stories.

18:47

She probably sees this Tabby cat with meow,

18:49

meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, mix one. And

18:51

it's the longest username. And she's

18:53

like, of course you're going to be

18:55

like very noticeable. And I was like,

18:58

I just didn't know. That's why I can't get away

19:00

with a crime. I think I'm a man.

19:02

Thank God. We

19:04

were talking about this. I was like, Natalie, honestly,

19:07

I think karma is so real that

19:09

I wouldn't even have to turn it

19:11

you in if you committed a crime.

19:13

I feel like the universe will take

19:15

care of it itself. You

19:17

know, Deepdy and I actually had this conversation. Like, I

19:19

was like, if I committed a really bad crime

19:21

and told you, would you rat me out? She goes,

19:23

no, but I know the universe would rat you. Absolutely.

19:27

I would have so I don't believe in the universe. Good

19:31

thing the universe doesn't exist. No,

19:34

it does. No, I feel like I would have

19:36

so much guilt if I ratted you out because

19:38

I'd be like, oh my God, my friend is

19:40

in jail because of me. I

19:42

know. Who's going to yap with me on the

19:44

podcast? But do I think

19:46

the universe would come get you eventually?

19:48

Yeah, maybe when you're 60. And

19:51

it's going to hit you in the face. But

19:53

I think that though, if I were to commit a

19:55

crime, like really plan one out, I think I would

19:57

tell you, like I remember telling you about this fake

19:59

Instagram. I was like, I'm going to create a fake

20:01

Instagram and like follow her. And you're like, yeah. Okay.

20:04

And I feel like you would try to talk

20:06

me out of it. Like you would be

20:08

like, no, you dumbass. I'm petty. So when

20:10

I create a plan, like I want to get

20:12

revenge on someone deep. He's like, no, like

20:14

we're not doing that. Like save your soul. Yes,

20:17

please. And then I'll get really wrapped up

20:19

where I'm really thinking about the logistics. And

20:21

it's small things. I just want to egg

20:23

someone's house who, let's say, did

20:25

something horrible to us, wrote a

20:27

meme comment. I was like, I'm going

20:29

to egg your house. That's fine.

20:31

You could wipe eggs off really easily.

20:33

It's harmless. Wiping eggs off

20:36

is the worst thing ever, because I'm pretty

20:38

sure that's happened one time. It's

20:40

hard. Just something small. Let's say

20:42

someone cheats on us. I

20:44

just want to... just want to blast

20:46

them. I just want to leave. Maybe

20:49

like dog poop on their porch. Like it's

20:51

not a big deal. So small. Those are like

20:53

my revenge. Yeah. Or you like send glitter

20:55

to somebody. Yeah. No, I wouldn't do that. I

20:57

don't think that's too nice. Glitter. That's where

20:59

you draw the line. I would send

21:01

a glitter bomb too. But anyways, deep. She's

21:04

always like, no, like we got to move on.

21:06

So I feel like if I were to

21:08

like actually commit something, she would talk me out

21:10

of it. Meanwhile, if it was vice versa,

21:12

I'd be like, I'm right there with you. I

21:14

will be a lookout. Make sure no one

21:16

gets caught. But anyways, this whole Finsta thing, the

21:18

reason why I actually think about this once

21:20

a week, because first, she knew I

21:22

was dating New York boy, and she

21:24

probably told New York boy, like, this bitch

21:27

blocked me along with her podcast date

21:29

on my wedding weekend. But

21:32

secondly, the fact she thought I took

21:34

the time to block her when in

21:36

fact it was all my fault. There's

21:38

so many things wrong here in what

21:40

you did, but... a Finsta is not

21:42

one of them because I truly believe

21:44

that everyone should have a Finsta just

21:46

so you can create. No, after

21:48

that scenario, was like, no more. But I

21:50

will say, this is kind

21:52

of crazy. I don't know if

21:54

anyone does this, but for when

21:56

I had meow, meow, meow, meow,

21:58

mix one, I would like every

22:00

single one of my personal Instagram

22:02

posts and comment on it, being

22:04

like, looking good. Okay,

22:08

that's another mistake you're making because

22:10

that is context -clusive figuring out who

22:12

you are. Because I'm only following

22:14

one person, which is that girl. And

22:17

then she probably is like creeping through or

22:19

like sees a post of yours and you have

22:21

meow meow meow being like, wow, looking great. That

22:24

is a dead giveaway. I

22:27

know after. After I

22:29

deleted that account, I was like,

22:31

I'm a freak. Like I'm such a

22:33

weirdo. You know what? You

22:35

don't do that though with your finsta. No.

22:38

Because what's one like gonna do? I know, but I

22:40

just do it to make myself feel good. I'm

22:43

like, wow, me to me, I'm giving my compliment. It's

22:45

like giving a compliment to yourself. It's like doing

22:47

daily affirmations, you know, but instead of doing it right

22:49

in the mirror, looking at yourself, you

22:51

legitimately can compliment yourself. I

22:54

think I understand the concept, but

22:56

I will just do the mere

22:58

affirmation for me, girl. But I

23:00

do have to say With my

23:02

Finsta, I do make a lot

23:04

of mistakes like going to people's

23:06

friends to look at their stuff.

23:08

And then I'll go back to

23:10

my own Instagram and look to

23:12

see who's looked at my stories.

23:14

And it's always that friend who

23:16

I just creeped on. I'm like,

23:18

wait, why does she know? I

23:21

don't know why it always is like

23:23

they pop up right after. So I'm pretty

23:25

sure some of the people that I creep

23:27

on, like their friends know it's me for

23:30

sure. Just because it's like

23:32

a weird, it's like a weird

23:34

username even and I follow zero

23:36

people it's private zero follow me

23:38

so they're probably like Who else

23:40

could this be? Who else would

23:42

choose a dog as profile picture?

23:45

It's like the cutest little puppy

23:47

And also this person that I

23:49

creep on like who's it's their

23:51

friend they they probably have like

23:53

I don't know like 500 600

23:56

followers So they look at it

23:58

pretty frequently. So you know something

24:00

is oh, yeah, like This bride

24:02

had only maybe 300 followers. Oh,

24:04

Natalie. I know. Natalie.

24:06

And I literally, like I even saw,

24:08

you know how you could see like

24:11

when they uploaded a Instagram story, like

24:13

it says, you know, the time, it

24:15

would say like one minute, one minute

24:17

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24:19

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25:48

was creeping to find some things on New

25:51

York Boy, New York Boy was never

25:53

there. Guys, that's like the plot twist of

25:55

this entire thing. Okay, screw this story.

25:57

The weird thing that I still can't figure

25:59

out, which is why I think about

26:01

this once a week, is New York Boy

26:03

was never there. And he was definitely

26:05

a Goomsman because if you go to the

26:08

wedding website for this couple, he's on

26:10

there. You know, when people post their, like,

26:12

who's in their wedding party, he's on

26:14

there as a groomsman. He never attended because,

26:16

okay, people are probably like, how do

26:18

you know? Maybe he just wasn't in the

26:20

photos. Well, speaking about that,

26:22

um, so I found her Facebook because,

26:25

okay, can I tell you why I found

26:27

her Facebook? I was thinking of actually

26:29

messaging her, being like, out of the pods

26:31

and myself, we didn't block you. It's

26:33

because I creeped on you. And then I

26:35

was like, I was typing it out.

26:37

Like I asked chat, she'd be tea. Like,

26:39

can you help me type this out?

26:41

And I sounded like such a freak that

26:43

I was like, I can't send this

26:45

message. Yeah. You know, I'm very nice to

26:47

you, Natalie, but I would have told

26:49

you, you sound like an absolute freak because

26:51

I didn't want her to think like

26:53

she's probably an ex pop bestie now because

26:56

she's like, these girls block me. But

26:58

I was like. I didn't want her to

27:00

think like we blocked her like that's

27:02

horrible because she was like commenting on our

27:04

stuff on out of the pods our

27:06

Instagram page and really nice things like she

27:08

definitely did listen like quite frequently and

27:10

I hope she's listening to us now because

27:12

I was like I'm so sorry you

27:14

know when you were earlier talking about how

27:16

you've come up with, you think about

27:18

scenarios in your head that make you cry

27:20

on planes. You don't even need to

27:22

come up with any stories. Just think about

27:25

this scenario and you'd be bawling your

27:27

eyes out. It really just bring me a

27:29

lot of shame. Like sometimes, you know,

27:31

when you have those moments where you like

27:33

think about something you did and it's

27:35

like really embarrassing. And then you just

27:37

are like, fuck, like I can't believe I did that.

27:39

I have those moments when I'm in the shower where

27:41

I think about it and I kind of go into

27:43

days. I'm like, it like it

27:45

kind of just like What's

27:47

the word? I

27:50

don't know what the word is, but it just stops me in

27:52

my tracks. Yeah. You're like,

27:54

I know it. The embarrassing

27:56

things always hit you at the worst times.

27:58

It's always like after a day of

28:00

drinking, when you have anxiety, AF, and

28:03

you're like, oh my God, I think I

28:05

overshared last night. Like in this podcast,

28:07

no one needs to know the story. The more I

28:09

talk about it, I was like, that's not really that

28:11

funny. You're really entertaining. And I just feel like I'm

28:13

just saying it as a confession. Like

28:15

I don't have to. Like offload my

28:17

sins. No, I would have to

28:20

say it's pretty entertaining from my end.

28:22

But anyways, checked her Facebook, which

28:25

is also public. And again,

28:27

thought about messaging her and end

28:29

up being like, that's crazy.

28:31

Like that makes me a crazy

28:33

person. And it's just a

28:35

loss. Deepty and I have

28:37

to swallow because she was a pot bestie. Maybe

28:39

some friendships are only

28:42

meant to be short term.

28:45

So I was like, you know what? Like,

28:47

you know, she, unfortunately it happened. So

28:50

I was like, I just have to accept

28:52

it, but I was trying to make

28:54

it right. I was going to message her,

28:56

but I saw that she uploaded like

28:58

maybe a month or two later, her official

29:00

wedding photos. And of course, I

29:02

don't know how Natalie got ahold of them, but.

29:05

No, she posted on her Facebook. So

29:08

I was like, obviously I could see all these photos. And

29:12

she had multiple photos of her

29:14

wedding party. And he was in

29:16

none of them. And you knew

29:18

someone was missing because I think

29:21

originally, based on her wedding website,

29:23

she had the same number of

29:25

bridesmaids and groomsmen. And in these

29:27

photos, you could

29:29

tell there's one

29:31

more bridesmaid. than groomsmen.

29:34

And so I was like, okay, yeah, he

29:36

was like the missing link. Yeah, I

29:38

remember when we were going through this and

29:40

we were going through this. I mean,

29:43

what you go through, I go through 100%.

29:45

If you're going through something, we're going

29:47

through it together. We're feeling it together. Absolutely,

29:50

every emotion. But

29:52

this is a mystery that I

29:54

still weirdly think about as well.

29:56

Because was he just embarrassed? Because

29:59

there's maybe Pod Besties who knew

30:01

that it was New York boy

30:03

who effed up. And so I'm

30:05

like, oh, no, he couldn't show face. At

30:08

least that's the scenario I make up in my

30:10

head because why would you not go to

30:12

the wedding if you're in the bridal party? I

30:14

think that's like crazy and a slap in

30:16

the face because now she has uneven pictures. Yeah,

30:18

that's what I was going to say. No,

30:20

I would love to say like he felt

30:23

so guilty he could not show his face

30:25

at this wedding knowing the bride was a

30:27

Pod Bestie. Maybe she was like. You know

30:29

what? I listened to that episode where Natalie

30:31

revealed you were an asshole and you're no

30:33

longer going to be a groomsman. I'm just

30:35

kidding. I would love for that to happen.

30:37

But she probably didn't think that because she

30:39

thinks now we blocked her, which is awkward.

30:41

But anyways, that's that's the biggest mystery. And

30:43

I guess like the lesson I took away

30:45

from this is like, if you're going to

30:48

create a fake Instagram account, don't name it

30:50

something so weird. Like I wish I just

30:52

named it like Jacqueline O 'Neill. Because

30:54

then she'd be like, oh, just like a random person. Jacqueline

30:57

O 'Neill, who follows me and

30:59

me only. I

31:01

would have not followed her. I would

31:03

put in the bio like Bride to be.

31:05

So like she thinks, oh, this woman's

31:07

creeping on me because she wants like bridal

31:09

tips and then makes like the picture

31:11

a normal person and then have deep these

31:13

fins to follow me. So it looks

31:15

like I have at least like two, three,

31:17

four, five followers. You know,

31:20

that's the thing. Creating a

31:22

Finsta is an art, and sometimes

31:24

you have to take your

31:26

time building this art before you

31:28

go and creep comment, you

31:30

know, like anything. You have

31:32

to make sure that there's some oomph

31:34

to it. It's well -rounded. Mine

31:37

is not. I just play my private

31:39

and hope for the best, but... So,

31:41

like, when I see, like, fake Instagram

31:43

accounts leave mean comments, but they look,

31:45

like, legit, I'm like, oh, my gosh.

31:47

Wow, you did it all right. I

31:49

really have that thought. I'm like, you

31:51

really, you trick, you almost tricked me.

31:55

You almost tricked me. And

31:57

I was like, I'm proud of you. I was like, I'm gonna

31:59

do what you do next time. There's this

32:01

account that no matter what I

32:03

post, I think it's a he who

32:05

knows, but his profile picture looks

32:07

like Jesus. Like he's just beautiful looking

32:09

in this profile picture, but they constantly

32:12

message me. And they're like, you're

32:14

looking so beautiful today, deep tea.

32:16

Or they're like, wow, you're the

32:18

light of my life. Like just

32:20

positive, positive comments. And if I

32:22

post a story and they don't

32:24

message me, I'm like, where is

32:26

my person? Like, I need, I

32:28

need this in life. I need

32:30

the validation. Yes. Take Instagram account.

32:32

Shout out if you are this

32:34

person with the Jesus profile picture.

32:36

I love you. No,

32:39

I do think about it all the

32:41

time. I'm like, oh my gosh, where

32:44

is he? What's he up to? Why

32:46

is he not messaging me? So I

32:48

think that there is people out there

32:50

who have Finsta's that really do make

32:52

a difference. And it's

32:54

important. So Natalie, I'm

32:56

going to encourage you to not

32:58

give up on the Finsta dream. If

33:01

any pop SCC's a Jacqueline O 'Neill looking at

33:03

your Instagram stories, it's just me. It's just

33:05

me creeping. It's just

33:07

me. Trying to

33:09

find, like, some information. It's

33:12

for a good cause. I'm so glad I shared

33:14

that story with our podcast users, because I feel

33:16

this, like, immense amount of shame just lift off

33:18

my shoulders. Now

33:21

when you shower, you will not be

33:23

thinking about this, because you have been released.

33:25

It was the secret I was holding

33:27

on for so long. And I really hope

33:29

she does hear and realizes, yes, I

33:31

am a creep, but I didn't block

33:33

you. Should we believe out

33:35

her name? Also,

33:39

can you also let her know

33:41

to tell us what the story

33:43

is? Because I would like this

33:45

unresolved, unsolved mystery to really be

33:47

resolved. Because I need to know.

33:51

When I was going to message her

33:53

on Facebook. Oh

33:55

my God. That just gave

33:57

me PTSD. I forgot you were going to do

33:59

that. No, I wanted to message her and

34:01

the follow up is like, hope you had a

34:03

good time with New York or whatever to

34:06

see if I could get the story. Being like,

34:08

why was me there? Yeah, the info. That's

34:10

really the big reason. That would make

34:13

me an actual like, I think that would

34:15

make me crazy. Like that would be

34:17

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a blessing in disguise that New York boys

35:23

didn't have social media because I think you got

35:25

over him more quickly than you would have

35:27

if he had had an Instagram. For sure. And

35:29

I feel like I wasn't posting things to

35:31

like show off to him. Like, you

35:33

know, I don't know if anyone has done

35:35

this in the past, but like when you go

35:37

through a breakup, Oh, deep D already knows

35:39

exactly what I'm going to say. Cause she's like,

35:41

I could read your mind where you like

35:43

go through a breakup and you still follow your

35:45

ex. Like it's that weird time period where

35:47

you just break up. And like you

35:49

don't know when to unfollow each other. I

35:52

always unfollow right away if I know like I'm

35:54

never getting back with this person. But you

35:56

know how it's weird if you remove them from

35:58

your following list. So you kind of have

36:00

them still follow you until they're ready to unfollow

36:02

you. Yep. Okay. So you know the scenario. When

36:05

that happens, I feel like I

36:07

post way more and things I wouldn't

36:09

typically post to like prove I'm

36:11

living my best life and I'm happy.

36:13

Yep. And I'm really just posting

36:15

for them. So

36:18

it was really easy for like New

36:20

York boy. I feel like I would

36:22

have done that if he was following

36:24

me to be like, I'm fine. I'm

36:26

moving on. I'm so happy and just

36:28

be like posting like annoying stuff. Yeah.

36:30

And I'm so glad I didn't do

36:32

that. Like I didn't care like what

36:34

I posted after that. It's so funny

36:36

to me when I see people posting

36:38

and they're like happily a couple and

36:40

then the next day or a week

36:42

later, they're posting the saddest quotes or

36:44

like they're like, I never loved him

36:46

anyway. Like, you know

36:48

what I'm talking about? Yeah, like a breakup

36:50

quote and moving on. Yes. And then

36:53

a random bikini photo. Yes. Yes. And then

36:55

like her, like someone going out. Like,

36:57

you know, when all of a sudden like

36:59

the club photos are being posted every

37:01

weekend, I was like, you're, you just went

37:03

through a breakup. Absolutely. You can tell

37:05

when someone's going through something or you like

37:07

go and creep because then you see

37:10

the story of like some sad, sappy relationship

37:12

quote and you're like, something happened. You

37:14

go and like look at their profile and

37:16

every single memory of them has been

37:18

erased. I'm like, I need the tea immediately,

37:20

but I'm not going to lie. I'm

37:22

the opposite of posting quotes. I will never

37:24

do that. You can't. Not

37:26

after a breakup. Yeah, that's 15

37:29

year old deep tea on my space.

37:32

But I will, what I

37:34

will do, and I'm shameless

37:36

about this, I will use

37:38

my guy friends as props.

37:40

And I'll be like, put

37:42

your hand out next to

37:44

mine and I'll post to

37:46

create the illusion. I

37:48

used to do that too. But then I

37:51

was in like the receiving end, the

37:53

receiving end, like I was in the like

37:56

where my ex was posting with a bunch of

37:58

women, and it actually gave me the ick

38:00

more, because I was like, I know exactly what

38:02

you're doing. And you're doing it for me.

38:04

So that's why I stopped doing it, because I

38:06

was like, I, you know, when

38:08

you just know, like when you know someone's going

38:10

through a breakup, like when you are the

38:12

target of whatever they're posting, you're just like, I

38:14

know exactly what you're doing. You know what's

38:16

funny is my toxic trait when I see that

38:18

is, oh my gosh, he so loves me. Wait,

38:22

save, save. I was like, he cares

38:24

so much about me. Wait, I think that's

38:27

yours for me. And it's like a

38:29

picture of someone's boobs. And I'm

38:31

like, that's for me. Wait,

38:33

I have to see you. I was like, he can't

38:35

stop thinking about me. So he's got to post all

38:37

these photos acting like he's happy and single. I'm

38:40

like, why are you so obsessed with me? And

38:42

the funniest thing is, is when they're like posting

38:44

about that, like a week later, you'll get

38:46

this text being like, hey, you up. Yeah. I

38:49

hate that. Oh, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

38:51

And I was like, yeah, I'm up, but

38:53

you're down. So

38:55

don't text me again. Never in my

38:57

life have I ever sent a, hey, you

38:59

up text message. And I'm proud of that

39:01

because like what? No, I hate, I hate

39:03

men that do that. Well, even if I

39:05

want to send it, I'm asleep. Yeah.

39:08

I'm in bed by 10 p .m. You're up

39:10

at six and you're like, yes, I am. I'm

39:16

like, yeah. Hey, honey. But

39:19

I do, anytime I do get those text

39:21

messages, I feel so happy. I'm

39:23

like, love it. It just feels like

39:25

you have the upper hand and you're

39:27

like, I am winning at the breakup. No,

39:30

I know. And because I felt that

39:32

where I'm like, I have the

39:34

upper hand, like the balls in my

39:36

court, I will no longer give a man

39:38

a satisfaction because I used to be

39:40

kind of like do that like desperation thing

39:42

where I'll go through a breakup and

39:44

then after like a few weeks, you like

39:46

send that text. you're like thinking like

39:48

should I send the text or not should

39:50

I send and then I realized being

39:52

on the receive being on the other end

39:54

where I get a text and I

39:56

feel this like power but I don't want

39:58

to get back together with it I

40:00

was like I refuse to let a man

40:02

experience that again so yes I was

40:04

like even if I'm like really struggling and

40:06

I feel anxiety like I'm just never

40:08

gonna give someone that satisfaction my pride won't

40:10

let me Honey, that is

40:12

growth. That is growth because I have been

40:14

there and I always send that long text

40:16

like talking about the relationship and what went

40:18

wrong. And I'm like, and this happened and

40:20

then I'm so sad about this and I

40:22

miss you. I wish the way you held

40:25

me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know.

40:27

And then you're like, oh no, like that

40:29

was the worst thing you could ever do.

40:31

Yeah, like when you send that final text

40:33

to you being like, and you think you

40:35

just like, you're like, I did it. All

40:37

the punctuation was there. You know what I'm

40:39

saying? That like that long final text where

40:41

you were like, you say everything you were

40:43

feeling and you're like, wow, I hope he

40:45

feels so sad. But when I've received those

40:47

types of texts, I'm like, what the fuck?

40:49

Yeah, you're really going through it. So I

40:51

realized I'll never send those texts again, even

40:53

though my brain tells me it's a good

40:55

idea. Yeah. And my therapist says, you know,

40:57

there's no rules when it comes to breakup.

40:59

Like you say what you have to say.

41:01

And I know that's a lie. That

41:04

is a lie. Once you

41:06

break up, there is no line of

41:08

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41:10

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41:12

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41:14

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41:16

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41:18

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41:20

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about cheating, which is an amazing

42:56

transition to this next thing that I

42:58

saw and I want to talk

43:00

about. Okay, so I was on TikTok

43:02

and I saw this video of

43:05

a man and a woman doing what

43:07

looks like the naughty in a

43:09

very public car parking lot. And Sleuths

43:11

on TikTok found out who these

43:13

two people were. They found out the

43:15

man was the woman's boss and

43:17

both of them were married. Allegedly. Allegedly.

43:22

Who's coming for us? And

43:24

people in the comments of this

43:26

video were saying how they were

43:28

able to find the man's wife.

43:30

So they were able to find

43:32

who she was and sent her

43:34

the video, I think on Instagram or

43:36

maybe LinkedIn, and she

43:38

blocked them. Like she didn't

43:40

respond, just like blocked all these people who were

43:42

sending her the video being like, Hey, just an

43:44

FYI, this like video exists. First of

43:46

all, I thought it was so crazy that

43:48

people were able to find out who these

43:51

people were. So that was the first thing

43:53

I was like, oh my gosh, like this

43:55

video has only been out for like two

43:57

days and people were able to identify who

43:59

these people were and now it's like public

44:01

information. And it's so big because if you

44:03

go to the company's website of where this

44:05

man and woman worked, completely gone. Like he

44:08

was one of the co -founders of this company

44:10

and she was like a director of something

44:12

and both of them are just scrubbed from

44:14

the website, which signals to me that it

44:16

was obviously them and they were doing something

44:18

wrong. You know, like they were definitely having

44:20

an affair. But I thought it was interesting

44:23

that the wife is blocking people who are

44:25

sending the video. Like I'm sure thousands of

44:27

people are sending her the video. She is

44:29

the real victim in all of this. I

44:31

thought it was just interesting that people are

44:33

like, yeah, she's just like blocking a bunch

44:35

of people. Interesting. This

44:37

reminds me of a story. So

44:40

there's a couple. And they have

44:42

been married for like two to

44:44

three years. And she found out

44:46

that her husband is cheating with

44:48

one of his coworkers. And

44:50

she reports to him. So

44:52

he's like their supervisor. And

44:54

she found out, I believe,

44:56

through some text messages. And

44:59

immediately the wife called

45:01

her husband's boss and

45:03

reported them and said,

45:05

hey, they're having an

45:07

affair. they

45:09

both were immediately fired from

45:11

their job. And that, I

45:13

don't know why, but that scratched an

45:15

itch in my brain. And I'm so

45:18

happy that she did that. No, I

45:20

would do the same thing. Imagine if

45:22

you found out your husband was having

45:24

an affair with someone who reported into

45:26

him, I would absolutely

45:28

100 % like there's no stopping

45:30

me. I would call like

45:32

the CEO, I would find a way.

45:34

I would even come to the office,

45:36

I think, and be like, hey, just

45:38

an FYI, here's all the proof, but

45:40

my husband is doing the office dirty

45:42

when he reports to him. And I

45:44

think what's worse about the whole situation

45:47

is that they have all hung out

45:49

together in a group setting. The

45:51

wife and the mistress and the husband.

45:53

Yes, because they go to office events and

45:55

things like that. And obviously you're able

45:57

to bring your spouse. And so

45:59

they've all hung out before. And I

46:01

think that's what makes it even worse. And

46:04

the fact that also if

46:06

you go to his Instagram, it's

46:08

all pictures from their wedding,

46:10

when he proposed, like it's everything

46:12

is them. So the

46:14

fact that... I'm not trying to blame

46:16

the girl in this scenario because

46:18

obviously it's both of their faults. But

46:20

I just think that just makes

46:22

it so much more icky to know

46:24

that they're recently married and they're

46:27

like trying to build this life together

46:29

and you go and ruin it,

46:31

you know? Both of them ruined it.

46:33

Yeah, like he ruined it. Yeah. You

46:36

know, it's just because it's

46:38

like, okay, that that situation

46:40

where it's where someone with

46:42

power in the workplace. is

46:44

having an affair with, you know,

46:47

his subordinate. Like that's where it gets

46:49

messy. Cause it's like, I don't

46:51

know, was she in this like tough

46:53

scenario where he made a move

46:55

and she felt, you know what I'm

46:57

saying? it gets in

46:59

that weird place. Not saying it's okay

47:01

by any means. Like at the

47:03

end the day, if she carried on

47:05

with it or if, and if

47:07

it was consensual, like that's not good.

47:11

But oh my God, just so crazy.

47:13

I feel like, workplace affairs

47:15

must be more common. If you

47:17

work in an office five days

47:19

a week, you probably spend way

47:21

more time with your coworkers than,

47:23

you know, like your significant other

47:25

sometimes, depending on how long you

47:27

work and like, let's say your

47:29

marriage isn't doing well or you're

47:31

unhappy or develop a crush at

47:33

work. It's so easy. I mean,

47:36

yeah, you're gone from home. You

47:38

know, honestly, I can

47:40

Absolutely relate to this because when I was

47:42

in my long term relationship, it was

47:44

tumultuous, right? Like we had our ups and

47:46

downs, but one thing that I did

47:48

find myself in this is so relatable. I

47:50

feel like is I did spend a

47:52

lot of time at work and I was

47:55

really good friends with this guy from

47:57

my office and we would go get coffee

47:59

every morning. We would chit chat. We

48:01

had like really good banter. And I didn't

48:03

think that I even realized that I

48:05

was starting to have a crush on him

48:07

because it was so innocent. Yeah. until

48:10

my ex started going through my laptop.

48:12

Cause I was like, Hey, I'm going

48:14

to run to the grocery store really

48:16

quickly. Just leave my laptop like running

48:19

so that it stays active, you know?

48:21

Yeah. So make it look like you're

48:23

online. Yeah. Exactly.

48:26

know exactly. And then I come back and

48:28

this man has pulled up every single

48:30

message that I've ever chatted with. And he's

48:32

like, who is this? Why are you

48:34

getting coffee with him every morning? And I

48:36

was like appalled. I was like, seriously?

48:38

I was so annoyed with him because I

48:40

was like, I'm so innocent and all

48:42

of this. And then after I sat with

48:44

it for a while, I was like.

48:46

maybe I do have an office crush and

48:48

like this person means something to me

48:50

like it's been years that we've been going

48:52

to get coffee together and like having

48:54

conversations even if we talk about our partners

48:56

it's still this bond that you create

48:58

with that person yeah but you you have

49:00

to recognize it and step away and

49:02

I literally had to break up with my

49:04

office crush over it I think that

49:06

it's okay to develop an office crush not

49:08

really a crush but where you're like

49:10

okay that person's good looking but if you

49:13

start like developing like feelings for them.

49:15

Like, yeah, you just have to cut it

49:17

off. Like that's what people do. Like

49:19

you just have to. Absolutely. But

49:21

I think you're right about office

49:23

affairs being a lot more common because

49:25

you're spending so much time with

49:27

them. Going back to that TikTok thing,

49:29

I know it's not my business,

49:31

but I'm just always curious like, did

49:33

the wife block these people sending

49:35

this video because she's like annoyed or

49:37

she's just like, I don't want

49:39

to know or see it. Because I

49:41

have an influencer friend who is

49:43

going through the same thing right now.

49:45

I haven't talked to her about

49:47

it, but I've seen the allegations. It's

49:49

been in the news that her

49:52

partner slash husband may have cheated on

49:54

her and the woman exposed it

49:56

publicly. And she also said she reached

49:58

out to my influencer friend, but

50:00

my friend blocked her and is just

50:02

like posting content normally. I

50:05

just saw what like these pop culture like new

50:07

sites are like posting on their Instagram. So

50:09

it's just coming up on my feed. But,

50:11

you know, there were some comments being like,

50:13

why would you block this woman who's trying

50:15

to, you know, let her know her husband

50:17

has been cheating on her. And I also

50:19

thought, you know, like, if I put myself

50:21

in that scenario, like, how would I react

50:23

when I think the person, would I block

50:26

them? Would I let it sit there? Like,

50:28

what do you do? Yeah,

50:30

I think honestly, if you're not ready

50:32

to receive it and you're not ready

50:34

for your life to completely change, you

50:36

will do anything to block it out.

50:38

Like when my ex cheated on me

50:40

and I knew about it subconsciously and

50:42

I knew there were signs, I blocked

50:44

it out so hard. I'd be like,

50:46

no, this is not true. It can't

50:48

be true. It can't be true until

50:51

I had a hard evidence in front

50:53

of my face. And I was like,

50:55

oh, I have to face the situation.

50:57

So I feel like It just really

50:59

depends. I couldn't even imagine

51:01

if you're married and that happens. Oh,

51:03

I know. Crush me. I guess

51:05

the other woman like sent my friend

51:07

like a bunch of receipts. It's

51:09

just like so tough. I just don't

51:12

know, though, when people like have

51:14

affairs, like what makes them think they

51:16

could like get away with it? Yeah.

51:20

They're caught up in the rush of it

51:22

all, man. I don't know. I

51:25

could never. I can't relate to that

51:27

because I just know in my heart, body,

51:29

and soul that the universe would literally

51:31

punch me really hard. So was like, there's

51:33

no way. There's no way I would

51:35

be cheating in this world. People always say

51:37

people who cheat are the ones that

51:39

are very insecure and have low confidence. But

51:42

I was like, I don't think I've ever been to a

51:44

workplace. Even if it's like

51:46

other men who are single, which was mostly for

51:48

the case for me, like especially when I had

51:51

to go to the office in my early 20s,

51:53

right? Like we're all kind of like single and

51:55

like working together. I don't

51:57

think I ever was like, I'm going to start

51:59

a relationship with one of these people. Like,

52:01

you know how it never crosses your mind? You're

52:03

just like, I want to go in and

52:05

out. You think I want to like really just

52:07

like chat around that much? Like I'm just

52:09

like my work and get the fuck home. Where

52:11

are people having the time to have affairs

52:13

and develop relationships in the workplace? It's

52:16

because we had no social life because

52:18

that was me. When I first moved

52:20

to Chicago, I did not know anybody

52:22

and I was like, work friends. Yay.

52:24

I totally get work friends. I have a lot

52:26

of work girlfriends. I even have like a

52:28

work husband who I got really long with. But

52:31

I was like, don't those relationships form because

52:33

you all hate your boss. So all you talk

52:35

about is like shit about your boss. I

52:37

was like, when does that get from going from

52:39

that to a romantic level? Like, I don't

52:41

get it. Like, do you like start like, I

52:43

don't know, touching each other's knees as you're

52:45

talking shit about your boss? Like, when does that

52:47

happen? Because with my work husband, who was

52:49

straight, and he was very much just a work

52:52

husband, like no feelings. I could

52:54

tell he had no feelings for me. You know, like when I'm

52:56

saying where it's really strictly like, we're just

52:58

like close because we have been

53:00

bonded from hating our boss together. I

53:03

was like, I don't know how that, you

53:05

know, like anything could happen beyond that. I

53:07

don't know. It's kind of hot. If you're

53:09

both single in a workplace and You're

53:11

like bonding over hate. I'm seeing him get a low

53:13

-performance review. He's seeing me get yelled at by my

53:15

boss. Like, I feel like it already gives you the

53:17

ick. You're like, I don't want to see you. You

53:19

know what I'm saying? Nah,

53:21

trauma bonding is a thing. No,

53:24

that's it. You know, also, speaking of

53:26

like social media and how like people

53:28

found out that it's this couple that

53:30

was cheating, isn't it

53:33

crazy how social media has really

53:35

just like disrupted teeter's

53:37

lives because do you ever see those

53:39

TikTok videos where they'll be like a

53:41

girl just come on and be like,

53:43

hey, if you're Sam from, I don't

53:45

know, Minnesota and you were on a

53:47

bachelor trip this weekend, do not trust

53:49

him because he cheated and he's telling

53:51

all of his friends about it right

53:53

now. And then people will sleuth and

53:56

find out who that person is. Have

53:58

you seen videos like that? I'm just

54:00

like, no, I 100 % love it

54:02

though. Like I do. It kind

54:04

of scares me that filming things are like

54:06

a big thing now. It's like a

54:08

double -edged sword where like I love when

54:10

people are being exposed for something really terrible

54:13

they did. Like most likely it's going

54:15

to be caught on film. Yeah.

54:17

But then on the other hand, you and

54:19

I have like felt it sometimes, especially

54:21

when our season right came out. Like people

54:23

would like film us from far away

54:25

at restaurants and it kind of makes you

54:27

feel like really uncomfortable. And

54:29

so I feel like there's like

54:31

that side of it too, but I

54:34

do love when cheaters do get

54:36

exposed. Yeah, because before social media, people

54:38

were getting away with so much

54:40

and they were never going to be

54:42

found out, you know? Social

54:45

media gets kind of scary too, because

54:47

I think that like there are like now

54:49

messaging apps or it makes it easy

54:51

for there to be like no evidence of

54:53

anything. You know what I'm saying?

54:55

Yeah, so people are getting smarter. But at the

54:57

same time, I'm just like, wow, how many

54:59

people have gotten away with it? And then how

55:01

many people's marriages and lives are just being

55:03

disrupted? I don't know. Like, I think about it

55:05

and I'm like, would I rather just not

55:07

know or would I want to know? You would

55:09

want to know. You're right. I would want

55:12

to know. Not only will we know, but we'll

55:14

be getting revenge together. You want to see

55:16

how many eggs I can throw at your door,

55:18

which would actually be your door. Yeah.

55:20

But after you move out, it'll

55:22

just be his door. Yeah. Yeah,

55:25

I think about that often. I'm like, that's

55:27

scary to be in a place where your

55:29

life is just disrupted. But at the same

55:31

time, I would 100 % wanted to know.

55:33

I would want to know too. Yeah,

55:36

100%. Not only would I want to

55:38

know, I would want to know every

55:40

single detail. And then I

55:42

would surprise them. I'd be like, boo, guess

55:44

what I found out. Like, I would time it.

55:46

Like, I feel like I'd be the type

55:48

of person. If I found out I was being

55:50

cheated on, there was like receipts I got

55:52

a hold of. I wouldn't like

55:54

confront my partner right away. I would wait.

55:56

I would wait till we're at a family

55:58

gathering and then I'll give him a picture

56:00

frame. Actually, would probably gift his mom a

56:03

picture frame of the he was having with

56:05

another girl. Honestly. Natalie,

56:07

that is wild and I love it. Because

56:09

that's what I did when I found out

56:11

my ex cheated on me with my friend.

56:14

He didn't actually cheat on me. I waited

56:16

until that dude was home. And I was

56:18

like, let's go back to the apartment. Everything

56:20

is fine. And then as soon as he

56:22

walked through the door, all of his stuff

56:24

was packed and ready to go. And I

56:26

was like, get the f out of my

56:28

apartment. Yes, that's what you have

56:30

to do. You have to like. You

56:32

got to like wait for the reaction. I feel

56:34

like that's what gives you satisfaction. Yes, you

56:36

know, I do the jump scare. It's got

56:39

to be scary and Mysterious and then boom you

56:41

hit him in the face with it You

56:43

have to think they got away with it like

56:45

you don't know like you need to make

56:47

it seem like you don't know Yes, like you

56:49

know and then just surprise them. You're like

56:51

surprise. Yeah, that's what I don't know that I

56:53

know But I know that you don't know

56:55

you have to do it so they can't think

56:57

of an excuse Yes, yes, you

56:59

got to surprise them with it. And yeah, they don't

57:01

have time to come up with a story. That's

57:03

exactly what my thought process was. You know, when I

57:05

was talking about how I make up scenarios in

57:07

my head, it's like that type of thing. Like what

57:09

I would do if I got cheated on, what

57:11

I would say. Like

57:14

all this shit. How I found

57:16

out I was getting cheated on. And I'll be like, like,

57:19

how would I ruin their lives? I'm

57:21

making myself cry in the process. How

57:23

do I make the biggest impact

57:26

on those dudes' lives? I create the

57:28

most hurt? I feel like with

57:30

you, DeepD, you would have your final words and

57:32

be like, I'm moving on, like I'm strong, but I

57:34

would be like, no, I will sit

57:36

this for like five years and I will

57:38

be egging your house every month. You'll

57:41

be getting poop in the mail for

57:43

years. I was like, I won't forget.

57:47

Anyways. Anyways, we're not

57:49

petty. Speaking

57:51

about people taking videos on

57:53

social media, I feel

57:55

like this is the positive where

57:57

we catch people how they are.

58:00

Actually, the singer Usher is facing

58:02

backlash for reminding a doorman to hold the

58:04

door for him. Usher

58:07

and his friend were filmed walking

58:09

out of a very expensive hotel. This

58:11

hotel goes for at least $1 ,000

58:13

a night, and Usher opens

58:15

the door for his friend. But then

58:17

the part that's getting backlash is then

58:19

as he keeps the door open, he

58:21

signals the doorman or one of the

58:23

hotel workers who was several feet behind

58:25

him to come and hold the door

58:27

for him as he exits. And

58:29

so there's two arguments on social media. Some

58:31

people are saying that this hotel is so

58:34

expensive that a certain level of service should

58:36

be expected. Like, yes, there should be a

58:38

doorman that opens and closes the door for

58:40

you. But on the other hand, people are

58:42

saying like, okay, Usher, you already opened the

58:44

door for your friend. Just walk on through.

58:46

why do you have to make a scene

58:48

asking this doorman or hotel staff member like

58:50

I don't know who he was to like

58:52

open the door for you to exit like

58:55

it's such diva behavior why was that even

58:57

a thing so what do you think I'm

58:59

very curious Um, well, I

59:01

am not bougie at all. And I

59:03

think treating service people or like

59:05

in the hospitality industry is very like

59:07

important to treat them with respect.

59:09

And in my opinion, unless you're like,

59:11

you have like loads and loads

59:13

of luggage that you're trying to get

59:15

through the door, it does not

59:17

really matter. Like if you've already opened

59:19

the door, just walk on through. You're

59:22

right. It's diva behavior. And

59:24

I also think that when you

59:26

reach a level of like celebrity status.

59:28

People get so arrogant and narcissistic

59:30

sometimes, and I do not like that

59:32

energy. Totally, where you like expect

59:35

a lot more. And I was like,

59:37

you're already halfway out the door,

59:39

just like leave the door instead of

59:41

kind of embarrassing this doorman. And

59:44

okay, he had two free hands,

59:46

like he wasn't carrying anything. Exactly. So

59:48

I'm pretty sure he can open

59:50

his own door. I know. please.

59:53

And you know that he was

59:55

just trying to put this person down

59:57

and make him feel bad. too. Yeah.

59:59

It's not meant to be like, hey,

1:00:01

you know, here. Like, it wasn't, it's

1:00:03

a, yeah, it's a way to like, I

1:00:06

don't know, establish power almost. And

1:00:08

I don't like that. I'm sure

1:00:10

it's on my shit list. Don't meet your heroes. I

1:00:13

know. I was so disappointed

1:00:15

because I was like, Wait

1:00:17

a minute. I thought Osho was

1:00:19

really nice Him being a little bit

1:00:21

of like a narcissist and obnoxious

1:00:23

reminds me of this music video I

1:00:25

saw that was produced by the

1:00:28

Jimmy Fallon show where it shows a

1:00:30

bunch of celebrities in boxes like

1:00:32

you know the Brady Bunch Oh, you

1:00:34

know the Brady Bunch intro where

1:00:36

yes, they are like in rows and

1:00:38

boxes on the screen. There's

1:00:42

this video where there's a bunch of singers

1:00:44

and celebrities singing and Usher is in the

1:00:46

bottom right, but he thinks he's supposed to

1:00:48

be in the middle and he's like looking

1:00:50

up, down, pointing to the left and right.

1:00:52

And people are like, did Usher think that

1:00:55

they were going to put him in the

1:00:57

middle? because that's why he's like looking around

1:00:59

his entire box even though he's in the

1:01:01

bottom right corner and they're like I feel

1:01:03

like that's narcissism thinking like out of all

1:01:05

these celebrities and singers you are gonna be

1:01:07

smack dab in the middle of the screen.

1:01:10

Honestly, I know exactly what video you're talking

1:01:12

about. And it was so funny because

1:01:14

he was doing like a look around the

1:01:17

whole thing. And I was dying. He's

1:01:19

like, we are at the chair. But

1:01:21

they ended up fixing it because it

1:01:23

got so much attention. People have been like,

1:01:25

what is usher doing? So I think

1:01:27

that whoever edited the video, they uploaded a

1:01:29

new video to have usher in the

1:01:32

middle. also didn't look so funny. But I

1:01:34

saw the original and it was so

1:01:36

funny. I'm glad I. did

1:01:38

not grow up with tons of

1:01:40

money or I don't spend my

1:01:42

money to like have a luxurious

1:01:44

experience anywhere because I was like,

1:01:46

I never want to get to

1:01:48

this point where I ever expect

1:01:50

a level of like this. Yeah,

1:01:52

where you get special treatment. Yeah.

1:01:54

Yeah, like I I agree with

1:01:56

you I think no matter what in

1:01:58

life my family will always humble

1:02:01

me because of where we came from

1:02:03

and how we started and I'm

1:02:05

so grateful for that, but you're totally

1:02:07

right like It's hard to not

1:02:09

be exposed when you're not a good

1:02:11

person, especially when you're in the

1:02:14

public eye. Like this is the universe

1:02:16

punishing him because he's probably done

1:02:18

this so many times. You know he

1:02:20

has because again, when you reach

1:02:22

a level of status, you have this

1:02:24

like arrogant, powerful feeling and sometimes

1:02:27

you need to be humbled. So I

1:02:29

hope he's reading every single comment

1:02:31

that is on this video and it's

1:02:33

humbling him. Probably not.

1:02:35

I think he's getting a little bit of

1:02:37

backlash. But there's some people again saying

1:02:39

like, that's a doorman's job and usher was

1:02:41

just telling the doorman like this is

1:02:43

your job. But wouldn't it not even bother

1:02:45

you if no one opened the door

1:02:48

for you? Never. Not once. Not once would

1:02:50

it bother me because I feel like

1:02:52

you and I are the people that open

1:02:54

doors for others because we love people.

1:02:56

Oh my gosh. We would never expect it.

1:02:58

Yeah. Yeah. Like

1:03:00

no. I sure need some

1:03:02

therapy. He

1:03:07

used to be humbled. He needs

1:03:09

therapy to be the better version of himself. Exactly.

1:03:11

I can attest. Well, pop assies, before we

1:03:13

end this episode, just want to give you

1:03:15

a quick update. Deepty and I will be

1:03:17

back in person for our next episode because

1:03:19

I'm moving back to Chicago. Welcome

1:03:23

back. Thank you. And I'll keep you

1:03:25

updated on the move. Yes. And make sure

1:03:27

you guys leave a review and subscribe. See

1:03:29

you next Wednesday. Bye!