0:01

I have been searching for you my

0:04

entire life. Welcome home. You're more

0:06

powerful than you know, more resilient

0:08

than you believe, and more capable

0:11

than you've ever imagined. You deserve

0:13

great things. And by the way,

0:15

did you happen to bring any

0:18

pizza? Because we are fresh out.

0:20

We have quite the journey ahead

0:22

of us. Ryan, that is a

0:24

freaking awesome question. You are the

0:27

problem. And you do not

0:29

need anybody's permission. Don't

0:32

worry don't be

0:35

afraid ever because

0:37

this is just

0:40

a crime You're

0:43

a great

0:45

interviewer you're

0:48

one of the

0:50

best If this

0:52

is the best

0:54

God can do

0:57

I am not

0:59

impressed and to be in your

1:02

presence and I mean that I'm just so

1:04

happy that we're able to spend some more

1:06

time together and tonight our featured

1:08

guest is going to talk about

1:10

our amazing near-death experience

1:13

and some of the lessons that

1:15

she's learned as a result of

1:17

that experience and her heightened

1:19

sensitivity and I wanted to say I'm

1:21

also happy to give you an announcement

1:23

that the death show that we

1:25

originally aired We aired it back in

1:27

2018 and it was a 16, sorry,

1:30

14 part series on death and healing.

1:32

That is going to be

1:34

completely revised. Hopefully that should

1:36

be up in the next two months.

1:38

Our featured guests will bond there

1:40

and it's just going to be

1:42

something very wonderful. I hope that

1:45

it'll bring a lot of healing

1:47

to those of you who are going through,

1:49

you know, going through loss of love

1:51

one, going through pain. But our future

1:53

guest should also do that as well.

1:55

I want to ask you, what do

1:57

you think this whole exist? is,

2:00

you know, we've had guests over in the

2:02

years that have, you know, talked about, well,

2:04

you know, we're here for evolution,

2:06

or we're a point of attraction,

2:08

and if in consciousness, for source,

2:10

and we're just here to experience

2:12

the sake of experiencing. I don't

2:14

really know. I don't understand, but

2:17

the only thing I understand is I

2:19

just, I love my family, and that's

2:21

the only thing I know with any

2:23

certainty. The rest is all speculation, so

2:25

I'm curious. What do you think this

2:27

place where we are? Our future

2:30

guest is going to offer

2:32

some tremendous insight on the

2:34

nature of our reality, and there

2:36

are a lot of great take

2:38

away, so listen carefully and check

2:41

out the notes. Let us begin.

2:43

Welcome to the show is Susan

2:45

Gra. She's an intuitive medium.

2:47

She's an author, a lecturer,

2:50

and her book is called

2:52

Infinite Light, Infinite Lessons.

2:54

Phenomial book. and she signs a lot

2:56

of light in this world. If you

2:58

can learn more about her by going

3:00

to a website at Susan Grau,

3:03

bra, G-R-I-U.com, Susan, welcome to the

3:05

show. Thank you for having me. Thank

3:07

you. So you are featured in our upcoming

3:09

series about death and healing and

3:11

people can learn a little bit

3:14

more initially about your death experience,

3:16

but to kind of give everyone

3:18

a quick synopsis, you were about

3:20

four or five years old when

3:23

you had your new death experience.

3:25

locked in, was it a fridge

3:27

and you were taken away and

3:29

you saw these beings alike, can

3:31

you please describe the feeling that

3:34

you had when you went from

3:36

terror to just relief after this

3:38

experience is happening for you?

3:40

Yeah, I mean I was

3:42

terrified. I was stuck in

3:44

a dark coffin-like place that wasn't

3:46

plugged in so I was terrified.

3:48

as when I saw the lights

3:50

I didn't know what I was

3:52

seeing but I started to feel

3:55

some calm but I kept screaming

3:57

and then all of a sudden

3:59

I just felt safe. It was

4:01

as though, you know, if you

4:03

were trying to swim and you

4:05

didn't know how real well and

4:08

you got to the other side

4:10

of the pool and you went,

4:12

oh, I made it. That's how

4:14

it felt. I'm I made it.

4:17

I'm okay. I'm still me. I'm

4:19

still alive. I'm still me. I'm

4:21

still me. And you talked about

4:23

how you had an opportunity to

4:25

go to a room where You

4:27

saw that prayers were answered, some

4:29

prayers were answered, and some weren't

4:31

because of a person's greater good.

4:33

How does that get calculated, by

4:35

the way? How is there some

4:38

kind of divine process that decides

4:40

what is for your greater good?

4:42

I mean, somebody could be in

4:44

this of a tremendous amount of

4:46

suffering. Or they could have someone

4:48

very close to them, that they're

4:50

going to be lost. What makes

4:52

you compare a difference between why

4:54

one prayer is granted and one

4:56

is not? I really believe that

4:58

joy and pain are equal in

5:00

value. They both teach us something,

5:02

and I honestly believe on this

5:04

planet that my pain taught me

5:06

more, because I wanted out of

5:08

it, so I was willing to

5:10

go through everything I could to

5:12

get to the other side. And

5:14

so my soul grew and expanded

5:16

even more. And we are here

5:19

for experiences, and if we don't

5:21

want the experiences, then we won't

5:23

come here. You know, it's kind

5:25

of like if someone told you

5:27

you could go somewhere and feel

5:29

the gamut of every single emotion

5:31

to its fullest intensity love You

5:33

know having giving birth or having

5:35

getting married or every joy happiness

5:37

to its fullest but in that

5:39

is also Sadness I don't and

5:41

it goes really quick just like

5:43

that. I don't think I turn

5:45

it down You know, so we

5:47

want to experience these beautiful emotions

5:49

in every way. And so, you

5:51

know, my feeling is, you know,

5:53

for those who you that have

5:55

read my book and for those

5:57

of you that haven't I've been

5:59

through a tremendous amount of pain

6:02

I had two brothers and a

6:04

mother who died by suicide. So

6:06

sorry I'm so sorry that my

6:08

greatest teachers my greatest teachers that

6:10

I can my soul is a

6:12

survivor's soul and I can expand

6:14

and grow and continue to help

6:16

others with what happened to me

6:18

and You know I had other

6:20

things in my journey like everyone

6:22

you know it's all relative pain

6:24

is all relative you know it's

6:26

ours it's ours right I always

6:28

say if I were to take

6:30

all of my pain and put

6:32

it in the middle of a

6:34

room and everybody else did the

6:36

same thing I take mine back

6:38

because I understand it the best

6:40

you know I wouldn't take somebody

6:43

else's pain so you know I

6:45

I feel that pain is for

6:47

soul expansion and so is joy

6:49

you know we get to have

6:51

balance without balance we don't learn

6:53

anything and so You know, I

6:55

just wouldn't turn it down if

6:57

I could feel the depths of

6:59

joy that I have felt, you

7:01

know, and love and my babies

7:03

being born and all those beautiful

7:05

things that I got to experience

7:07

on this planet that I won't

7:09

experience there. The pain was worth

7:11

that. And when it comes to

7:13

this pain and suffering, I don't

7:15

understand. This is what I really

7:17

have a hard time grasping. Is

7:19

that on this particular planet, there

7:21

are so much insidious evil. And

7:23

they could say, well, I mean,

7:26

it is ridiculous. Some of it

7:28

to what happens to children, what

7:30

happens to animals. And I don't

7:32

understand or cannot comprehend how a

7:34

soul would have to go through

7:36

something like that multiple times, have

7:38

to come back multiple times to

7:40

experience it, because I wonder. If

7:42

we are all points of attraction

7:44

of infinite consciousness, we are all

7:46

part of the God body, part

7:48

of the same infinite consciousness, and

7:50

if it in consciousness is already

7:52

at its peak evolution, why do

7:54

points of attraction of its own

7:56

consciousness need to expand their consciousness

7:58

when they already are? part of

8:00

infinite consciousness. Why do they have

8:02

to expand, perceive a gamut of

8:04

emotions, a gamut of experiences that

8:07

have already been attained or already

8:09

within the mind or the spirit

8:11

of the infinite consciousness being known

8:13

as God or source? Such a

8:15

good question. Thank you. You know,

8:17

first of all, I want to

8:19

say free will is part of

8:21

our journey here and we've chosen

8:23

and we know coming here that

8:25

we could have bad things happen.

8:27

We know that. I don't think

8:29

our soul ever stops expanding. So

8:31

I know that we are whole

8:33

and pure on the other side

8:35

and I believe that thoroughly, but

8:37

there is always room for expansion

8:39

and as we expand we learn

8:41

what love is, self-love, the knowledge

8:43

of love to the depths of...

8:45

ways that we can't even understand.

8:47

And we're here for the experiential

8:50

part. So although we have a

8:52

beautiful consciousness there, we want to

8:54

experience. So I can tell you

8:56

all about the ocean, as an

8:58

example, but you don't really understand

9:00

it till you put your feet

9:02

in it and you roll in

9:04

the waves and you taste the

9:06

salt. And you know, those experiences

9:08

we want, we want to have

9:10

that. And unfortunately we come to

9:12

a place that has darkness in

9:14

it too. It has both. And

9:16

it's not something that I don't

9:18

believe that if we were to

9:20

remove free will, I don't believe

9:22

that we would grow the way

9:24

that we do now. I know

9:26

that every time I make a

9:28

decision, I have a choice to

9:31

go through a door and not

9:33

go through a door. So free

9:35

will is always involved for our

9:37

expansion. I understand what you're saying

9:39

that we are one God consciousness,

9:41

but we are pieces of that.

9:43

You wouldn't ask the splash of

9:45

water coming out of the ocean,

9:47

why it's splashed out of the

9:49

ocean, and then it no longer

9:51

is or isn't part of the

9:53

God consciousness. However, it's going to

9:55

have to find its way back

9:57

to remain a splash of ocean,

9:59

right? come here knowing that we're

10:01

going to find our way back,

10:03

but we are going to become

10:05

more for it, not in spite

10:07

of it, for it, for the

10:09

experience. So we're going to become

10:11

part of it, but this is

10:14

going to, I mean, I want

10:16

to go as deep as we

10:18

can with you on this one

10:20

because this is something I'm kind

10:22

of sensing and you could tell

10:24

me if I'm right or wrong

10:26

about this, but I do wonder

10:28

if this reality is actually a

10:30

trap. I mean, I'm sure there

10:32

are other places in dimensions to

10:34

evolve, but I do wonder if

10:36

this reality is a trap of

10:38

a particle or piece of consciousness

10:40

of source that portrays itself to

10:42

be a God that runs a

10:44

world where It is the ruler

10:46

of this world. Because I look

10:48

at this world, I see beauty.

10:50

I see beauty in nature. I

10:52

see some beauty within the hearts

10:55

of some people that are on

10:57

this planet. But I also perceive

10:59

that the darkness at the evil

11:01

seems to be the dominating force

11:03

of this particular planet in terms

11:05

of how justice is delivered in

11:07

terms of the progression of people.

11:09

Some of the things I've talked

11:11

with individuals is that we are,

11:13

I guess, a planet zero planet

11:15

where we fight amongst each other.

11:17

We haunt the planet. and we're

11:19

not able to kind of expand

11:21

with other potential living beings within

11:23

our galaxy or solar system or

11:25

within the interdimensional plane that we're

11:27

on. So I do wonder if

11:29

this reality is actually a construct

11:31

of a particle or being within

11:33

sources mind that has trapped other

11:35

pieces within itself and has portrayed

11:38

this reality as a place for

11:40

evolution when the reality is that

11:42

you can actually attain these experiences

11:44

in a different part of evolution

11:46

that does not carry the ex-

11:48

dreams that this one carries. Like

11:50

I understand the idea of, okay,

11:52

we know the pain of not

11:54

attaining your dream because if you

11:56

do not perceive a dream, time

11:58

goes and you lose the opportunity

12:00

to perceive a dream. We know

12:02

the pain of not. pursuing a

12:04

love interest knowing that that love

12:06

can pass is by. But at

12:08

the same time, you have extremes

12:10

in this reality where somebody could,

12:12

you know, kill your whole family

12:14

or somebody, something horrible to happen.

12:16

The extremes of evil seem to

12:19

be much more prevalent in this

12:21

reality. And again, to come back,

12:23

could this be a trap? Could

12:25

this be? Could it be? I

12:27

could be. What do you feel?

12:29

I look at it very differently.

12:31

I believe that love. is the

12:33

highest vibration that exists and it

12:35

outweighs any evil darkness, pain, suffering

12:37

because I've been through it all.

12:39

You know, I was trafficked as

12:41

a little girl in my name.

12:43

So sorry. Well, you know, I

12:45

mean, we go through, yeah, well,

12:47

in my book will tell you

12:49

stories that you'll go, God, how

12:51

did this girl get through this?

12:53

Because love was my motivating factor.

12:55

Love is more powerful. So your,

12:57

your... perception of the world and

12:59

its darkness and evil, etc. may

13:02

not be someone else's perception of

13:04

the world and its darkness or

13:06

evil, etc. So we have to

13:08

remember that we all have our

13:10

own journeys that we go through

13:12

and we have to decide why,

13:14

what, how, when and where. Do

13:16

you know what I'm trying to

13:18

say? So I understand what you're

13:20

saying? I thought sometimes that we've

13:22

been dropped on this planet by

13:24

some monstrous source and it's moving

13:26

us around like a chessboard, you

13:28

know, just part of the chest.

13:30

That's where I am right now.

13:32

But it's not what I saw.

13:34

Okay. Okay. So, so I have,

13:36

you know, the spirit world is

13:38

not the author of pain and

13:40

suffering. The spirit world is the

13:42

author of peace and love. But

13:45

we, our brains, make decisions. And

13:47

they gave us free will so

13:49

that we could grow and expand

13:51

and we utilized that in our

13:53

brains for evil doers. Evil doers

13:55

are using their brains. They're not

13:57

using their soul. They're not using

13:59

their heart space. They're using their

14:01

brains and they're doing these. evil

14:03

things through that consciousness, not the

14:05

consciousness. And why were we given

14:07

a brain so that we could

14:09

function and move our bodies and

14:11

create and build and heal and

14:13

love and all these other things?

14:15

And unfortunately, some people went a different

14:18

direction. But it's not

14:20

because we are in darkness because

14:22

I'm not in darkness. I

14:24

don't live in darkness. I'm in light and

14:27

I live in light. And I know how

14:29

to love, and I know how to love

14:31

me and others. And so why can I

14:33

do that here on this planet? But someone

14:36

else can't because they chose not to. They

14:38

chose the free will of doing it differently.

14:41

If they were to be able to control

14:43

free will, it would not be free will.

14:45

It'd be a planned event. And so why

14:47

come here to learn? I have to learn

14:50

what I want to know. I have to

14:52

learn it. I can't just know it.

14:54

In my soul, I want to learn

14:56

it. I want to touch it, taste

14:58

it, feel it, experience it. So we

15:00

have to have some form of a

15:03

body and brain to make that happen.

15:05

And unfortunately, there are

15:07

brains that are damaged, maybe in

15:09

birth, I don't really know the

15:11

answer to that part of it,

15:14

but they don't come from a

15:16

space of love. Not because they

15:18

can't. Because they choose not to. Unless

15:21

they're a sociopath, they're making a

15:23

choice not to a sociopath has

15:26

a brain issue. They're missing

15:28

something in their brain that was

15:30

not formed properly in the making

15:32

of them, the creation of them,

15:34

and the body. Just like sometimes

15:36

we don't have fingers and toes, you

15:39

know, sometimes we're missing things. Does that

15:41

make sense what I'm saying? It does make

15:43

sense and I appreciate it and I love

15:45

the fact that you're saying well, look, there's

15:47

the horrible things that are happening, but I

15:49

choose love and I choose to live in

15:51

this reality and many people do many people

15:53

want to allow themselves to love. And the

15:55

reason why I point out what it perceived

15:57

to be evil is because I look at

15:59

I mean, I mean, I I love and respect

16:01

all forms of life. Maybe not

16:03

so much the people that want

16:05

to kill other people. I really

16:07

care for them. Those who want

16:09

to harm animals and those who

16:11

want to harm other people. I'm

16:13

not. I'm in with you. I'm in

16:15

with you. I'm in with you.

16:17

I'm in with you. I don't

16:19

have a fan now. I'm not

16:21

really into the mind of SORus

16:23

and say, look, why don't we

16:25

talk about making a separation? Maybe

16:27

we take. part of us and

16:29

put it over there to all the

16:32

evil people over there. And we

16:34

go over here and the evil

16:36

stays over there. What makes you

16:38

think there aren't dimensions like that?

16:40

I can't, I want to get

16:42

to that. Is there any way

16:44

we can get to those dimensions? Is

16:46

it any way, this is a

16:48

two-part question, is it any way

16:50

we can actually, in this reality,

16:52

make our point of attraction, is

16:54

it? If you choose evil, if

16:56

you choose darkness, if you choose

16:58

harm, you're not going to any other

17:00

dimensions in my mind. It's not

17:02

going to help them. You have

17:04

to learn and grow and expand

17:06

and love is the greatest expansion

17:08

in existence. So the goal is

17:11

to love. And once you love,

17:13

and you learn to love yourself, which

17:15

is the hardest thing you'll ever

17:17

do. Yeah. Once you learn that.

17:19

then you're moving to a different

17:21

space and time and place, but

17:23

we have to learn that. And

17:25

I think we have individuals here,

17:27

people like to call them earth

17:29

angels, whatever they choose to call them,

17:31

who are teaching us how to

17:33

love. And if we listen and

17:35

we choose that, no matter what's

17:37

happening around us, we are solid

17:39

inside internally from a loved source.

17:41

No matter what. I mean, I

17:43

think about the things that I've been

17:46

through. And I just named a

17:48

few. And I know that I

17:50

come from a love source. And

17:52

I offer that to others. So

17:54

I'm taking people that are coming

17:56

into my office that are broken

17:58

from the pain that they've been in

18:00

and the things that have happened.

18:02

And I'm turning that. around for

18:04

them and saying, okay, let's heal

18:06

this so that you can love

18:08

you and you can move through

18:10

this journey knowing that you are

18:12

worthy and valuable and important and

18:14

special and amazing and wonderful and all

18:16

those other things. That's the goal.

18:18

And we need those people on

18:20

this planet. So there's going to

18:23

be high energy people or higher

18:25

much higher than me, high energy

18:27

people that can offer that to

18:29

people that help us become better. for

18:31

our experiences. I always say I'm

18:33

better because of what I've been

18:35

through, not in spite of what

18:37

I've been through. I flipped that

18:39

because I don't want to be

18:41

in darkness. I could have chosen

18:43

that. I could have chosen being a

18:45

monster and saying, I hate the

18:47

world and I hate everything in

18:49

it. I hate men and I

18:51

hate abusers and I hate, I

18:53

hate, I hate, I hate, I

18:55

hate, I hate, I hate. I

18:57

hate. I hate. I hate. I

18:59

hate. I could live like that. Or

19:02

I could say, I want to

19:04

help this broken. As they say,

19:06

yeah. you know, we because fortunately

19:08

and unfortunately we have free will.

19:10

Sometimes I think I wish we

19:12

didn't so that we could be

19:14

a better communion of consciousness, but I

19:16

think we do become a better

19:18

communion of consciousness for whatever experiences

19:20

we have because we take those

19:22

when we leave here to our

19:24

higher self and we process and

19:26

learn and grow and and and

19:28

change because we don't come completely here.

19:30

You know that right? Is it

19:32

we only have like a small

19:35

percentage of our conscience that's here

19:37

in our higher self than a

19:39

higher demand? Yes, I mean we

19:41

would implode with the consciousness that

19:43

I saw that. we would implode here.

19:45

But we do make this choice.

19:47

I don't have a hard time

19:49

with that Susan. I understand because

19:51

I think about these like animals

19:53

for example are kids in certain

19:55

parts of the world that I

19:57

don't think we go there and

19:59

say I see all the animals getting

20:01

abused. I'm not thinking we make

20:03

that choice. Let me be really

20:05

clear. I don't think we make

20:07

the choice. Not everything is it

20:09

is. I'm just saying we make

20:11

the choice to come to a

20:13

number of things. Well, good things and

20:16

not so good things. Yeah. Yeah,

20:18

that's why I like, hey, when

20:20

I, every morning, I wake up,

20:22

I mean, that's the rabbit hole.

20:24

That's what I, that's what I

20:26

want to, and, and, and find

20:28

out how I mean, I mean, I

20:30

wake up every morning, Susan, first

20:32

thing I do is, and, first

20:34

thing I do, and, I wake

20:36

up every morning, Susan, first thing

20:38

I do is, I'm like, you

20:40

know, you know, I mean, like,

20:42

I mean, I mean, being graceful,

20:44

having that love and being present. One

20:47

thing I just want to know

20:49

is, okay, so we have this

20:51

mission, okay, we can come down

20:53

here and say, okay, well, this

20:55

is your mission. It's a two-part

20:57

question. One is, can you change

20:59

the mission if you reach a point

21:01

of greater awareness? So it's every

21:03

example you are, you're your body,

21:05

you know, I'm ready to change

21:07

the thing, I no longer wish

21:09

to go through that. And I

21:11

think I'm going to be on

21:13

the beach for the rest of my

21:15

life. And then the other thing

21:17

is, if you accomplish your mission,

21:19

like I'll give an example in

21:21

a video game, you can complete

21:23

the game and then you can

21:25

have some extra time like kind

21:27

of farting around and exploring. How do

21:30

you know if you've completed a

21:32

mission and do you automatically get

21:34

taken off the planet when you've

21:36

completed the mission or you have

21:38

some extra time to kind of

21:40

hang around? I truly believe that

21:42

we move through this planet when

21:44

we're done with our mission. whatever that

21:46

is, or we choose to create

21:48

more. I mean, my experiences have

21:50

taught me so much that I

21:52

would never want to give them

21:54

away. It's not that I wanted

21:56

to go through them, but I

21:58

would never change it because it made

22:01

me who I am and I

22:03

love who I am. You know,

22:05

so I really want to say

22:07

that with every experience we have,

22:09

we can choose to create a

22:11

better self with it, even the

22:13

worst things, the most painful things, and

22:15

I've been through them. So I

22:17

can say that without, you know,

22:19

being. you know, cocky about it,

22:21

we really can be better and

22:23

more because of it. I believe

22:25

our sole mission is only known

22:27

to our soul and our higher

22:29

self. Because if we knew what it

22:31

was and we understood why we

22:33

were here and we understood the

22:35

truth of the spirit world and

22:37

the beauty of the spirit world,

22:39

we wouldn't stay or we would

22:41

change how we do things. We

22:43

want to, we want to succeed. Because

22:46

we don't know what's on the

22:48

other side when we know it's

22:50

on the other side and we

22:52

don't even care if we have

22:54

success because we already know what's

22:56

on the other side. We don't

22:58

need to worry about it anymore, right?

23:00

And so because I know it's

23:02

on the other side my achievement

23:04

or my need for success comes

23:06

with what can I offer the

23:08

greater good to for others? How

23:10

do I offer that out? just

23:12

by being in service to others. I

23:15

guess if you start at that

23:17

place, maybe you might not know

23:19

what your mission is. If you

23:21

kind of go in that direction,

23:23

you're probably going to hit the

23:25

mark or hit the stride in

23:27

terms of what your mission is.

23:29

Do we all have that? I think

23:31

that if you've hit your mission,

23:33

you know, your personal mission, my

23:35

feeling is is that We can,

23:37

I mean, this is just a

23:39

feeling, I want to say that,

23:41

but my feeling is is that

23:43

we can then decide what we're going

23:45

to do with all that knowledge.

23:47

I choose to stay and face,

23:49

you know, other people's darkness and

23:51

pain and suffering. Did I meet

23:53

my whole mission? Probably not, not

23:55

yet. But I know that I've

23:57

been through enough that, you know, my

24:00

mission. spend at least three quarters

24:02

done. I'm hoping. I'm 66 years

24:04

old if it's not happening now.

24:06

No way. Yeah. I would never

24:08

have known. You have so much

24:10

like vibrancy, so much like energy.

24:12

This is, I'm really, I'm really

24:14

surprised you said that. Wow. Yeah, in

24:16

two months, I'll be 66, but

24:18

you know. Happy early birthday. Thank

24:20

you. I'm very proud of that.

24:22

And I feel like, you know,

24:24

we have. This beautiful ability to

24:26

choose more than we know. And

24:28

those choices matter. So let me give

24:31

you an example. I'm walking through,

24:33

let's say, I have five doors

24:35

in front of me and I

24:37

choose the first door and I

24:39

walk in and I meet a

24:41

narcissist. At that moment, when I'm

24:43

aware that this person is not, words

24:45

and actions aren't aligning with this

24:47

person, I have a choice. I

24:49

can walk away. I can be

24:51

honest and say, your words and

24:53

actions don't align, this isn't for

24:55

me. Or I can stay. I

24:57

can go back out that door and

24:59

I can go in another door.

25:01

The problem is that we don't

25:03

make that choice most of the

25:05

time. We stay in that door

25:07

because it feels safe. It's the

25:09

knowing. I'm used to this. This

25:11

is comfortable. But when we decide

25:13

after all this tremendous pain in that

25:16

situation, say we stay. And then

25:18

we finally walk out that door.

25:20

We have learned so much that

25:22

we just know we're not going

25:24

to repeat that right and Spirit

25:26

will put it in front of

25:28

us I know they do I know

25:30

they say okay listen I'm gonna

25:32

put it in front of you

25:34

and how you handle it decides

25:36

whether or not you got to

25:38

go through it anymore Because you

25:40

have learned you have loved yourself

25:42

enough to say no more No more

25:45

so our highest self loves is

25:47

filled with love, but we have

25:49

all these other parts to us

25:51

And I think people miss that.

25:53

You know, it's like, it's like

25:55

the domino effect, I guess, you

25:57

know, we have all these different

25:59

parts that are being knocked around being...

26:01

utilize that there's one stability, you

26:03

know, that decides how's this going

26:05

to look. And then everything follows

26:07

suit. And that's our highest self.

26:09

But I know that on my

26:11

lowest vibrational energy, I need to

26:13

grow and learn and expand. I'm really

26:15

happy. You said that. Thank you

26:17

for your beautiful answer. And I

26:19

know some people who are really

26:21

Sadable curious or want to go

26:23

on growth some people don't some

26:25

people just want to you know

26:27

relax and I watch TV do a

26:30

thing but then again that could

26:32

be their their exact reason why

26:34

they're here maybe they have the

26:36

last lifetime they were growing I

26:38

am one of those individuals who

26:40

may have come across people like

26:42

me I'm part of that group

26:44

that says this is it this is

26:46

the last life incarnation I this

26:48

is that's it I think I've

26:50

seen it at all is it

26:52

is it is it is it

26:54

anything that we can do to

26:56

say So we don't have to

26:58

come back to this type of place.

27:01

We come back to a place

27:03

different earth where the sun is

27:05

shining for like 20 hours a

27:07

day. You only have to sleep

27:09

for hours. There's always good parking.

27:11

You know, you can eat pizza.

27:13

I don't think you're going to have

27:15

this mind in this consciousness when

27:17

you get there. But you know

27:19

what? I do believe that we

27:21

get to decide that. Okay. I

27:23

do believe that. You know what

27:25

I saw there I saw so

27:27

much there if I went into all

27:29

the details. Yeah, tell me a

27:31

little bit. Tell me a little

27:33

bit. What are some of the

27:35

visuals you saw? Well, I saw

27:37

the animals. I saw the room

27:39

of companions. It's where the animals

27:41

are. I saw the the what

27:43

I would call the source on the

27:46

mountain that the love that came

27:48

from it. I wanted to get

27:50

up the mountain so bad and

27:52

I couldn't and I knew I

27:54

couldn't. And so it came to

27:56

me. And it was this love.

27:58

It's not describable. It's not

28:00

describable, but what I what I

28:02

felt was I was everything and

28:04

I was nothing. I was perfect

28:06

in every way. It was unbelievable.

28:08

And I've been looking for that

28:10

love my whole life because you

28:12

just can't feel it here. But,

28:14

um, I got to see the

28:17

angels and when they open their

28:19

mouths the words and the music

28:21

come out at the same time.

28:23

Remember I'm a child seeing this,

28:25

I call them angels. They might

28:27

be entities, but I saw them

28:29

as angels. I understood that they

28:31

come as we understand them. I

28:33

always like people to know that

28:35

because some people don't believe that

28:37

there's angels and that's okay. They

28:39

don't believe in that concept, but

28:41

they come as we understand them,

28:43

especially to the children. I saw,

28:45

oh God, I mean there's so

28:47

much, I remember them showing me,

28:49

I wanted to know why these

28:51

pyramids were there and they were

28:53

on this golden path and they

28:55

were at the beginning and I

28:57

watched what I would call humans

28:59

going to the bottom of these

29:01

pavers and pulling from the bottom

29:03

of them and trying to pave

29:05

a path and it was bumpy

29:07

and crooked and it was just

29:10

really bad. Okay, because they're using

29:12

their brains, not their knowing, not

29:14

their connection. They lose their connection.

29:16

They didn't reconnect. You know, so

29:18

their soul, which is the connection,

29:20

is the vine to the divine,

29:22

and their brains were not connecting.

29:24

And so they were in this

29:26

free will state and they were

29:28

pulling from the bottom of these

29:30

pyramids. It gets out of balance.

29:32

I just innately knew it was

29:34

their life journey. But as they

29:36

were dropping to their knees and

29:38

saying for the love of God,

29:40

help me, nothing's working, nothing's going

29:42

my way, everything looks so dark,

29:44

the world is so dark, I

29:46

can't do this. I watched these

29:48

beautiful beings come in and the

29:50

people were gone and I, and

29:52

they removed all the pavers and

29:54

put them back to the bottom

29:56

and they went to the top

29:58

of the pyramid, they pulled these

30:01

pavers off. and I remember asking

30:03

them, and they were recreating themselves,

30:05

which was mind-blowing to me, and

30:07

there's the reincarnation, which I didn't

30:09

understand then. And I watched them start paving

30:11

the path, and I said, what are you

30:13

doing? And they said, we are the pavers,

30:15

you are not. All you have to do

30:17

is walk it. And I asked them, how

30:19

do you know if you're walking it right?

30:21

I know they put these questions in my

30:24

head. How do you know if you're walking

30:26

it right? And they said, we bless and

30:28

block everything. Make no mistake, you can get

30:30

through a block battered and bruised at

30:32

best. And if you see another wall

30:34

shift again or another block, if you

30:36

see another block or wall shift again

30:38

until you see us paving your path.

30:40

No path is easy. But we will be

30:43

there. What you try to control controls

30:45

you and what you run from. chases

30:47

you. I'll never forget it. I tried

30:49

to control things my whole life and

30:51

when I finally gave up and said

30:54

I can't control this and I still

30:56

try and then I have to just

30:58

put my hands down and say I

31:00

can't control this. It's controlling me. And

31:02

I can't run from my experiences I

31:05

have to face them because they chase

31:07

me and meaning I'll go through them

31:09

again and again and again until I

31:11

get the lesson. Till I understand that

31:13

I'm worth more and worthy of more.

31:16

It's my brain that tells me I'm

31:18

not my soul. My soul knows

31:20

my worth. It's never, ever damaged.

31:22

It can feel pain, but it

31:24

is never damaged. It's the one

31:26

place you can go to tap

31:28

into to say, what do I

31:30

do next to heal? To go

31:33

there? By the way, I love what you

31:35

just said that it's just

31:37

very profound and insightful and

31:40

wonderful, very warm. I know

31:42

it came from it. I

31:44

can't take credit. To go within

31:46

within your soul, would you consider like

31:48

going into a closet, go into a

31:51

closet or a place, like meditate, how

31:53

do you, how do you get into

31:55

your soul? You can meditate, but what

31:57

I do is I bring my higher self.

32:00

in front of me and I say,

32:02

what would you do? Your highest, most

32:04

best, perfect self. What would you do

32:06

right now? What would you say? How

32:09

would you view this? What would you

32:11

change in this experience? Because every experience

32:13

is personal. We are individualized in one

32:16

consciousness, which is really hard to understand.

32:18

That's why I talk about the drops

32:20

in the ocean. I think that was

32:23

the best analogy. Somebody else is at

32:25

Target. Yeah. Yeah. And when my highest

32:27

self is in front of me and

32:30

I ask that question, what would you

32:32

do at your most best beautiful self?

32:34

You're going to get the right answer.

32:37

You will. But we don't do that.

32:39

We go, I'm so mad at this

32:41

person, I'm going to tell them off,

32:44

I'm in this, I'm in a that,

32:46

I'm in a, I deserve that job,

32:48

I'm in a, you know, and when

32:51

we do that, I notice that we're

32:53

now trying to control it, and then

32:55

it starts controlling us, and then the

32:58

things that are meant for us, don't

33:00

come to us. You see, our brains

33:02

are in the way. You're thinking that

33:04

we're just brought to this dark, deep,

33:07

do it, do it differently. I have

33:09

a choice here. Now, do I have,

33:11

other people have choices too, and that's

33:14

the scary part that you're talking about.

33:16

Because are they looking at, we were

33:18

brought here to be commune with our

33:21

highest self, but we don't do it.

33:23

We're making this choice, this free will

33:25

choice not to commune with our highest

33:28

self. And I can tell you any

33:30

circumstance I've ever been in when I've

33:32

dropped, it's almost like having a Jesus

33:35

drop in front of you, it's like,

33:37

boom. You know, and it's like, what

33:39

would you do? It is always love,

33:42

always. And I don't want to do

33:44

it. My brain goes, no, don't do

33:46

it. They don't deserve it. You know,

33:49

my brain does that. And then I

33:51

go, wait, I know this is the

33:53

right choice. Broken people do broken things.

33:56

What people do decides who they are,

33:58

how I handle it, decides who I

34:00

am. So my job is to be

34:02

in a space of doing the right

34:05

thing, regardless of what's going on around

34:07

me. There's the mission. It's the hardest

34:09

thing to do. If everyone could do

34:12

it, this world would be the best

34:14

place. Oh my gosh. It would just

34:16

be amazing. I would love to get

34:19

to that point, love to do it.

34:21

And then she talked about the brain

34:23

because I remember watching this movie called

34:26

What the Bleak Do We Know back

34:28

in 2004 and there was one part

34:30

that really stuck with me. It's the

34:33

fact that they talk about the observer

34:35

and Dr. Stephen Greers talked about it

34:37

where you once you become aware of

34:40

awareness you observed. your mind that I

34:42

wonder well is what is the mind

34:44

is the mind a program is it

34:47

consciousness and this is actually going to

34:49

go down to another rabbit all season

34:51

is I have been observing at least

34:54

for the past two years and I've

34:56

seen more and more and I've been

34:58

hearing more about this that this whole

35:00

entire reality is no more than a

35:03

simulation that this is like a biological

35:05

simulation that is here and it sounds

35:07

completely out there but then again I

35:10

will go on any path because I'm

35:12

just stated with curious But I'm seeing

35:14

it more and more. I think it's

35:17

I feel like this place could be

35:19

a biological matrix that this is a

35:21

place where you learn and it's not

35:24

real. It's just a projection of what's

35:26

happening inside. I don't know. But what

35:28

you're what you see isn't real. You

35:31

know that that your eyes don't see.

35:33

You know that right. I mean scientifically

35:35

they don't see. It's a camera. So

35:38

the visual is outside of you before

35:40

your eyes see it. In other words,

35:42

your eyes are a camera to what

35:45

you're seeing, so your brain has already

35:47

seen it, and then your eyes view

35:49

it. And that's the power of the

35:52

brain. It's overwhelming to think about. So

35:54

when I'm looking at this, my brain

35:56

is already seen it. My eyes are

35:58

reflection or projection of... what my brain

36:01

is experienced by seeing it. And it has

36:03

a knowing to it. So what they

36:05

found is that the heart has

36:07

40,000 neurons. It's a mini brain. It

36:10

has learning capacity, memory capacity. It

36:12

is, it speaks to the brain

36:14

more than the brain speaks to the

36:16

heart. This is a scientific study

36:18

that is truth. And when you

36:20

think about that, the brain's going pump

36:22

pump pump pump pump. So yeah,

36:24

it's a simulation. It's simulating us. pump

36:27

pump pump right the soul the soul

36:29

is seeding in the heart space where

36:31

the memories you need when you leave

36:34

here go with you because the rest

36:36

is junk the rest is what

36:38

you see the projection and how

36:40

you project into it so I

36:42

might see a cup and see a

36:45

green cup that says infinite life infinite

36:47

lessons when I'm looking at it and

36:49

you might see a square that has

36:52

writing on it How we

36:54

view things is different. We all

36:56

view things differently and in a

36:59

different time warp even. You know,

37:01

there's no time there. So if

37:03

I were to put you in

37:06

a room with, it could be

37:08

a light or dark room, doesn't

37:10

matter, no calendar, no watch, no

37:13

cell phone, no windows, nothing, and

37:15

it stayed that way, you would

37:17

lose concept of time. That's

37:20

how it is there. Time is not

37:22

a concept for them. So

37:24

when I say I was in

37:26

the freezer for anywhere from 20

37:28

minutes to two hours, that's human,

37:31

there's no time there. It could

37:33

have been a moment. It could

37:36

have been a bleep. I don't know.

37:38

But when we recognize that this

37:40

is just a bleep, and we

37:42

are bleeping with a brain

37:45

that goes, oh no, this is

37:47

a whole storyline. This is it.

37:49

This is it. This is it. This

37:51

is it. This is it. You know,

37:53

this is reality. What

37:55

I tell my clients is

37:57

birth and death or some.

38:00

anonymous. You go through the same

38:02

experience. And so death is no death.

38:04

It's a new birth. It's a birthing

38:06

back. But birth here, you know, you

38:09

fight. You're in the womb. You don't

38:11

want to come out. You're warm. You're

38:13

warm and cozy. You know, you know,

38:15

the knowing, you know, the knowing, you

38:18

feel safe. And it's pushing and pushing

38:20

and pushing. You get out there touching

38:22

and prodding you. And they're doing all

38:24

these things and they're trying to figure

38:27

out. and you're just a little baby

38:29

and they wrap you in a blanket

38:31

of love and they put you in

38:33

your mother's arms or your father's arms

38:36

and you're safe in that moment. You

38:38

are love. Right. When we die, we

38:40

do the same thing. We fight it.

38:43

We're afraid. We don't know what to

38:45

expect. We can't remember our experience there.

38:47

And slowly we start getting prodded by

38:49

them. You know, you're coming back to

38:52

us. I'm here for you. I'm taking

38:54

you over. We're crossing back and we're

38:56

like, we're getting too close for comfort.

38:58

We're bouncing back and forth and then

39:01

boom. We're wrapped in a blanket of

39:03

love. And we are home again. And

39:05

that's the way I saw it. That's

39:07

really beautiful. It's something really profound to

39:10

look forward to. And do you, when

39:12

you, did you experience the after death

39:14

review that you experienced all the actions

39:16

that you had and the impact that

39:19

it had in other people? Because that's

39:21

actually something where I'm going to say,

39:23

I'm worried about that. I just, because

39:25

I try to make a tone for

39:28

as many people as I can. I

39:30

know I'm not a perfect, I definitely

39:32

have not lived a, but I don't

39:34

know. There's something in my life where

39:37

I have, I wish I wish I

39:39

wish I did better, I did better,

39:41

I wish I did better, I wish

39:43

I did better, I did better, I

39:46

wish I did better, I wish I

39:48

did better, A lot of them. Don't

39:50

we all? Yeah. But you know, your

39:52

soul is perfect. Your brain screws you

39:55

up here. You don't have anything to

39:57

be afraid of. A life review is

39:59

what the heart takes that we need

40:01

to learn. So yes, we do feel,

40:04

you know, the things that we've done.

40:06

to others, but it's not a punishment

40:08

feeling. It's a feeling of, oh, I

40:10

could have done better. You know, when

40:13

I go to another dimension and when

40:15

I go back, whatever I choose to

40:17

do here, I'm going to do better.

40:19

You know, that's how we learn. And

40:22

we learn that way here too, but

40:24

it's a different level of learning. It

40:26

is not a look what you've done.

40:28

It's not like that. your brain tells

40:31

you that they don't think on our

40:33

level there we don't think on our

40:35

level there this is a low vibrational

40:38

energy planet you know and they're the

40:40

highest of vibration they meaning the spirit

40:42

world the highest of vibration so you

40:44

don't have to worry because they're not

40:47

looking for your flaws they're looking for

40:49

your love okay and so when you

40:51

love And you learn to love, especially

40:53

yourself, and back to that. So love

40:56

is the true soul path, is for

40:58

us to learn here what that is,

41:00

to remind ourselves the empowerment of our

41:02

soul. We don't go over there with

41:05

that brain. You're not going to go

41:07

over there and go, oh, I wasn't

41:09

nice to that person. So I'm a

41:11

bad person. That's the brain. They don't

41:14

think so small. They don't think so

41:16

small. Although it comes to the brain,

41:18

I have to give people the benefit

41:20

of the doubt because there's so many

41:23

things out there that are, you know,

41:25

poisonous to your health, if you look

41:27

at the air, the water, the process

41:29

food, the negative frequencies that they're putting

41:32

out over, even music, and I know

41:34

that they're manipulating the vibrational frequency it

41:36

links from music, I think it was

41:38

44, or now that changed it to

41:41

432. There's so many things that are

41:43

against us, and I couldn't blame people

41:45

for acting the way they are the

41:47

way they are in the way they

41:50

are in the way they are in

41:52

some ways. But I understand. I mean,

41:54

it doesn't make it okay because we

41:56

do have a soul that tells us

41:59

to do better. Thank goodness. Thank goodness.

42:01

But I understand what you're saying. It's

42:03

like our brains have so much toxicity

42:05

in it, not just in thinking, but.

42:08

but in, you know, in every way,

42:10

you know, in eating and like, as

42:12

you said, there's so much toxicity. I

42:14

don't think the spirit will planned that.

42:17

Toxicity, I think that we did. They

42:19

weren't ready for, like, there's no way

42:21

these humans are gonna create, well, GMOs,

42:23

they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna spray

42:26

stuff. I mean all that stuff is

42:28

you know harming us and it's harming

42:30

the way we think and we don't

42:32

know what that's doing to the human

42:35

part of us the human brain you

42:37

know but keep in mind that our

42:39

humanness stays behind this is just a

42:42

carry case you know that just a

42:44

vehicle right this is our car rental

42:46

that we have Susan I just have

42:48

um maybe one or two more quick

42:51

questions for you I want to say

42:53

first I'll thank you. You're absolutely amazing.

42:55

One of them is when you are

42:57

out of the body in the spare

43:00

world, I've been seeing evidence of this

43:02

more and more that apparently there were

43:04

other civilizations that were here before these

43:06

current group of humans seem to do

43:09

way more advanced. And I too wonder

43:11

why were there advanced civilizations here and

43:13

can people today connect with some of

43:15

those spirits from this pastelization, so quite

43:18

frankly, like I love... connecting with people

43:20

that are unsatedly curious that are on

43:22

a path of that are asking questions

43:24

and it seems that in previous years

43:27

these civilizations were on the path they

43:29

were creating beauty of the buildings today

43:31

are so ugly and if you look

43:33

at the buildings two or three years

43:36

ago they're beautiful and there seemed to

43:38

be this passion for knowledge and today

43:40

there's a passion for apps on a

43:42

phone and playing angry birds and Not

43:45

to say that it's not wrong for

43:47

people to do that, but I mean,

43:49

there's certain people that prefer certain things,

43:51

and I think it seems that years

43:54

ago, that was pretty cool. So did

43:56

you ever get the sense that we're

43:58

there? Yeah, I really believe that centuries.

44:00

ago. They remembered where they came

44:03

from. And what happened

44:05

though? I don't know. I can't

44:07

answer that I wish I could.

44:09

I wish I understood

44:11

what happened. But I

44:14

think slowly evolution over

44:16

time changed that. You know,

44:18

it's kind of like they say

44:20

it takes one bad seed

44:22

in an apple to ruin

44:24

the taste of the apple.

44:27

Think about it. You know

44:29

any any fruit you know any

44:31

anything it takes one one piece

44:33

of mold to ruin the cheese

44:35

you know what I'm trying to

44:37

say it's like come on so

44:39

so we don't know you know I

44:42

believe other civilizations came here

44:44

from other dimensional energies and

44:46

I think that they they

44:48

got a taste of that

44:50

and no I don't want

44:52

any of that and maybe

44:54

a few of them what

44:56

I like the power. I don't

44:58

know, you know, I don't know what

45:00

happened. Oh, I'm very curious. Susan,

45:03

the last question is,

45:05

you've presented so many

45:07

beautiful pieces of insight,

45:09

wisdom, very inspirational, when what

45:12

inspires you to continue to

45:14

grow? What's the best affirmation

45:16

that you say to yourself

45:18

that really kind of encourages

45:21

you, inspires you to be

45:23

on a path of self-growth

45:26

and helping others? My

45:28

inspiration is I always tell

45:30

myself what path am I on

45:33

and it's anywhere that leads to

45:35

the light. That's what I

45:37

tell myself every day. Does

45:39

it work every day? No, I'm

45:41

human. But when I'm in my

45:43

soul source, you know, that's where

45:46

I'm at. And what inspires me

45:48

to help others is my own

45:50

pain, my own suffering that I

45:52

went through. If I can get through it,

45:55

I'm no different than anyone else. People think

45:57

if you have a near-death experience that it

45:59

makes thinking. of dying easy. No, I

46:01

don't want to die. I don't

46:03

know how I'll die. That scares

46:05

me. Being on the other side

46:07

doesn't scare me of this plane.

46:09

But how I'm going to get

46:11

there does. I'm just like everyone

46:13

else. I'm having an experience. But

46:16

in my experience, my goal is

46:18

to help others with what I

46:20

understand. And if I can get

46:22

through it, they can get through

46:24

it. And I want them to

46:26

know that. So I get up

46:28

every day and say, what can

46:30

I do today to share love

46:32

with another human being to help

46:34

them see that they can survive?

46:36

But they can achieve that they're

46:38

worthy of life and survival and

46:40

joy and happiness, even in spite

46:42

of or because of their experiences.

46:45

Susan Kraw. Thank you so much

46:47

for being with us today for

46:49

sharing your wisdom. Susan has an

46:51

amazing book. infinite life infinite lessons

46:53

wisdom from the spirit world on

46:55

living dying and the in between

46:57

will post a link you can

46:59

learn more about Susan by going

47:01

through website Susan grant G-R-A-U-D-com I

47:03

encourage you to sign up for

47:05

reading she's got some phenomenal events

47:07

and workshops and by the way

47:09

for Susan's book I think she's

47:11

close to almost 500 five-star reviews

47:13

for her book and I encourage

47:16

you if you're on the path

47:18

of curiosity, if you've got some

47:20

pain and suffering, you just want

47:22

to learn more highly encouraged to

47:24

get a reading with her. Susan,

47:26

thank you so much. You were

47:28

wonderful and amazing. Thank you so

47:30

much for having me. I love

47:32

your questions. They're really, really down

47:34

the rabbit hole and they're so

47:36

cool. Thank you. Special thanks to

47:38

our fantastic guest. I hope that

47:40

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47:44

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47:47

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