20:00

saying that you had to get

20:02

a PO box because you have

20:04

no physical address anymore. And

20:06

you were describing this new sort

20:08

of homelessness that you are experiencing,

20:10

which is true. Even though

20:13

you are in a house, it is not your

20:15

home. You were

20:17

sharing your Airbnb debacle, which I've never

20:19

heard of such a crazy thing in

20:21

my entire life. So you're

20:23

in another Airbnb. I've lost count at

20:26

this point. I know it's not

20:28

forever. There is a happy

20:30

ending in all of this. But

20:32

what I love is what

20:34

you said at the very end before we went blank. And

20:37

that is, you said it humbles you a

20:40

lot. It does, you

20:42

know, and really when you think things

20:44

are, you know, like you made it

20:46

through all of it, even last night,

20:48

it changed again. There's

20:51

even more stuff behind me because Abby's house is

20:53

full of mold. So she's moved into my Airbnb.

20:55

So you know, hey, daughter for those who don't

20:57

know you have two daughters, Abby and Libby. My

21:00

oldest daughter is moving to Austin on

21:02

the 18th of this month. But

21:05

these next two weeks, she's in a house

21:07

full of mold. So I'm like, I said

21:09

to her last night in humbleness, hey, any

21:11

home that is not my home is your

21:13

home. And so I mean, you don't know

21:15

what I'm saying. I mean, I don't know

21:17

what I'm saying. I

21:21

mean, seriously, I can't, I honestly, I

21:23

say, I think so many times with

21:25

different people in communications. I can't make

21:28

this beep up my life. Still

21:31

very blessed, but very humble, like

21:33

really humbledy that, you know, living

21:35

out of a suitcase. Didn't Abby

21:37

just move into a townhouse? What

21:39

happened? Well, she,

21:41

her house had damaged during the hurricanes

21:43

too. I didn't really know it. She told me, she told

21:45

me, but I was in the middle of my flood and

21:47

I didn't pick up on it. And

21:50

yeah, so she went home yesterday and

21:52

found mold on five pairs of her

21:54

shoes. So that's airborne. Yeah. So,

21:56

and she'd been having a headache.

21:58

So we can talk about that.

22:00

But you know, No, it's just

22:02

really what you think is enough

22:05

is not enough. I often tell God, I'm

22:07

like, hey, I'm good with building character. I

22:09

don't need anymore. Don't ever

22:11

say that and don't pray for patience. So I'm

22:13

learning. 56, still learning. But

22:16

so yeah, I think my computer died because I

22:19

was sick of hearing about Airbnb because I'm sick

22:21

of living in one. It's a Holly stop enough

22:23

already. Let's get to the

22:25

good stuff. Let's get to the good stuff. So

22:28

yeah, Dee, what else do you want to talk to me

22:30

about? Oh my goodness. Wow. Okay.

22:33

Or can I ask the questions? You

22:35

can do whatever you want to do. Yeah,

22:37

all good. We can ask each other questions.

22:40

You and I, what's neat about us, and

22:42

for those who don't know the full backstory,

22:44

I mean, my mother connected us, right?

22:46

She was the group that brought us together.

22:49

But our paths are very similar because

22:51

you and I grew up in the same neighborhood.

22:53

We went to the same school. You're

22:55

apart. We didn't

22:57

know each other, but we kind of knew of each

22:59

other. But it's really neat that we connected in our

23:02

50s and when we did because we were going through

23:04

very similar life experiences at the time.

23:07

We're both going through divorces. We were

23:09

trying to get our footing, just

23:12

a lot of turmoil and shake up. And

23:14

so we connected, even though I would

23:17

say emotionally, we were kind of wrecked,

23:19

but we were in different places. But

23:21

we needed each other at that time. And

23:24

I'm so grateful for you, period.

23:27

But what blows my mind, Holly, is that as

23:29

you're going through all of this stuff, there

23:32

are yet more parallels in

23:35

our life that are all inexplicable.

23:39

So first, I want you to

23:41

share as much as you want to share, obviously. But

23:45

a very special person came into your

23:47

life. And I was trying to calculate,

23:49

is it a year ago now or

23:51

how long? Oh, I think

23:56

it's about seven months now.

24:00

that I reconnected with and I'm gonna

24:02

stick with this person because I just

24:04

think that people That

24:07

are really close to me deserve the

24:09

information people strangers. It's my business. He's

24:11

awesome. I've known him since I was 15 We

24:14

reconnected Because and people

24:17

can probably figure this out. He was

24:19

my brother my brother's big brother in

24:21

a fraternity So we've just he

24:24

too went through a divorce and honestly I

24:26

told my brother I thought he was so sweet

24:28

and attractive and would be fun to go on

24:31

a date who I had no Idea that we

24:33

would have so much So

24:35

many things in common love to do so many things

24:37

and he's probably one of the kindest men I've ever

24:40

met in my entire life I've never had a man

24:42

like that in my life. And so he's taught me

24:44

how To

24:46

be loved to be treated and

24:48

to enjoy life. So it's been fun It's

24:51

been really fun getting and

24:54

going back into the dating arena and

24:56

having such a lovely Experience

24:58

and it's not like that really in

25:01

in the dating arena for our age

25:03

I I don't believe no there are

25:05

there are a lot of horror stories

25:07

out there and I I laugh because

25:09

you and I both Reconnected

25:11

with people from our past and I think I

25:14

know women talk about that I've

25:16

heard Holly you and I are

25:19

in a large pool of women

25:21

who have in some form or

25:23

fashion Reconnected with somebody in their

25:25

history and there is something very

25:27

unique about that because there's shared

25:29

experience shared people Shared time,

25:31

you know you you're not dealing with all of

25:34

that newness in the weirdness and trying to impress

25:36

somebody It's like oh, I knew you when you

25:38

had pimples on your face or I knew you

25:40

when you were, you know 15 pounds

25:42

heavier. It's like who cares, you know, you get to

25:44

start in a different place, right? Yes

25:47

a D for me. It was like the easiest thing

25:49

for me was I used the word and

25:51

I know I told you this he's vetted Yeah,

25:53

like he's vetted and so I don't

25:55

have to worry about those things and not just to

25:58

see vetted But the things that we have peace

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interesting. People are like, okay, Dominique's

40:59

just pushing Holly to do exactly what

41:02

Dominique did. And I really want to clarify, that's not true.

41:04

Come on. If you're thinking that, you're way off base. My

41:07

life's my life. Everybody's life is their life.

41:11

But the conversations that you and I have had in

41:13

those quiet moments together are always

41:15

those what-if scenarios, right? And

41:18

I shared mine with you as I

41:20

was going through my journey as well, and

41:22

leaving a place that had been a place that I

41:24

was not comfortable in. And leaving

41:26

a place that had been home for me

41:28

my entire life, practically. A place that I

41:31

never thought I would leave. And

41:33

as I was adding everything up, right? Just

41:35

like you were doing. You're kind of tallying

41:37

your list. And you're saying, okay, there's this

41:39

to move toward, but there's this that I'm

41:41

letting go of. And the one

41:43

thing I kept saying to myself over and over, and it was

41:46

the same thing I kept repeating to you. And

41:48

it's the same thing I said to Courtney, by the way, when

41:50

she came up here. Houston

41:53

or wherever home base is for you

41:56

is never going away. It's never going

41:58

away. So if whatever you. try

42:00

doesn't work, you don't like it, it's

42:02

not a good fit, a relationship doesn't

42:05

pan out, whatever. It's not

42:07

like this is a forever decision. I

42:09

mean, it could lead to other things

42:11

that keep you there or maybe move

42:13

you forward to someplace new, but

42:15

there's always the opportunity to go back from where

42:18

you came. And I think sometimes

42:20

we get so caught up in

42:22

that fear of letting go that we

42:25

realize, well, wait a second, how hard of

42:27

a decision really is this? And am I

42:29

making it harder based on my

42:31

definitions of what I

42:33

feel I need in the moment?

42:35

And sometimes we define our security

42:37

with familiarity. But I

42:40

personally have found by letting go

42:42

of the familiar, there's been such

42:44

a wonderful discovery of,

42:48

wow, I like this even better. Who

42:50

knew? And that's the whole

42:53

thing. And it could have also gone the other

42:55

way. It could have been, you know what, this sucks. I

42:57

don't like it up here. I don't like my new job.

42:59

This isn't working. And you know what, great

43:01

ride, I'm going back. And that would have

43:04

been fine too. You

43:06

know, you address like, oh my goodness, you're

43:09

just getting me to do the things you

43:11

do. I'm not that woman. You

43:15

know, I am my own person. And

43:17

I think that's why you

43:19

were drawn to me as a friend. I

43:22

don't want to be Dominique Saksa. You know

43:24

full well. I barely watch what we tape

43:26

or what you do. You

43:29

don't want to be Dominique Saksa. Excuse

43:32

me. Hell no. Yeah.

43:35

You know. The way you're

43:37

scrutinized, the way you're spoken to, the way you're

43:39

treated. And let me just tell you this. I

43:41

had so many people say, oh my gosh, you

43:44

weren't at the wedding. Well, like, do you not

43:46

support it? Let me just clarify right

43:48

now. I support it 100%. I've

43:51

never seen you happier in your life. I've never

43:53

seen your faith grow. The weight has

43:55

grown. And I haven't ever laughed as hard as

43:57

when I was with Vic at the dinner.

46:00

You know, it's like, oh, you're going to tell you

46:02

you're going to go there. Yeah, we're going to go

46:04

there. We're absolutely going to go there. And if you're

46:06

a believer, you need to go there. Probably

46:08

now more than ever. So yeah,

46:10

but because of that, you know, we're going

46:12

to take hits because not everybody believes

46:15

in that and aligns with that.

46:17

And that's okay. You know, there

46:19

are places and platforms for you

46:21

to, um, we get hits in life,

46:23

even when we're not professing our faith. I

46:25

think those hits are balanced by the blessings

46:28

and the glory. Um, I

46:30

have, I have definitely faced those hits

46:32

in women's ministry and just different

46:34

things, but it's so worth it.

46:36

And to watch you when you were on Sage

46:39

D, even in your, um, with

46:41

your podcast tour, uh,

46:44

to watch the way you communicated your

46:46

faith, not that you didn't communicate your faith when

46:48

we first met, but I went

46:50

home that night and I probably might've already

46:52

said this like it was a

46:54

thing for me. I'm like, all right. And

46:57

that is so exciting because you have

47:00

such a platform and to, and to

47:02

not use it would be such

47:04

a disappointment, but the fact that

47:06

you are using it makes it

47:08

even better. And those that don't care

47:10

for it, don't need to listen, don't need to

47:12

watch. And if, and, and, and

47:15

to each their own, like to

47:17

each their own, I'm saying like, I'm not being

47:19

rude to them, but to each their own. Yeah.

47:22

I agreed. I always for every,

47:24

every person, uh, and all that, but again,

47:26

it's, you know, it's just where we are

47:28

in today's day and time, but it's, you

47:31

know, when you have it, when, when those seeds

47:33

are planted in you and you water them and

47:36

you activate them and you act on them, um,

47:38

I believe it's really important because people will say,

47:41

well, why, how, how

47:43

is this happening to you? And you can't

47:45

sit there and say, Oh, it's sheer will

47:48

or Oh, I've, I've worked really hard on

47:50

me. Well, so has God.

47:53

And if he blesses you in that way, my

47:55

feeling is, and you don't share how

47:57

he blesses you. I mean, you miss out on

47:59

your ministry. your

1:10:00

opportunity to become laser focused and do what

1:10:02

you need to do and do your work

1:10:04

and follow the word and to get to

1:10:06

a better place, a better

1:10:09

place and have a better testimony once

1:10:11

you get to that better place. And

1:10:13

the one thing that I love, and I heard

1:10:15

this from Stiles, he

1:10:18

said to me, Stiles. I know, my

1:10:20

man. He said the last time he

1:10:22

was here, he said, mom,

1:10:25

I'm really happy for you. He

1:10:27

said, you, this

1:10:30

makes me cry. He said, you

1:10:32

are with the right person for you. And

1:10:35

he said, I've never seen you happier. And

1:10:38

I have a nice son to be able

1:10:40

to witness that and to be able to

1:10:42

see his mother have so much joy and

1:10:44

for that to give him so much peace,

1:10:47

especially because we don't live in the

1:10:49

same city anymore. And I can handle

1:10:52

that. I don't know, maybe he

1:10:54

handles it better than I handled it. But

1:10:56

for him to know that mom's four and

1:10:58

a half hours away, but she's good. She's

1:11:00

good. She's solid. She's happy. And for

1:11:02

me to be able to model what a fun,

1:11:05

loving, healthy relationship is, there's no greater

1:11:07

gift as a parent to be able

1:11:09

to give to your child, aside from

1:11:11

the direct love that you can give

1:11:13

them yourself, but is to be a role

1:11:15

model in their lives of

1:11:17

what they should want to strive for and

1:11:20

have and value and covet. So I'm just,

1:11:22

I'm grateful for that. And

1:11:24

wherever your situation may lead, just the potential

1:11:26

for that, for your girls to be able

1:11:28

to watch and witness too, to see their

1:11:31

mother so happy. And it floods them with

1:11:33

joy to the point where they have so

1:11:35

much peace, no matter where you are. Yes,

1:11:39

and it opens the door for

1:11:41

conversations of, for

1:11:43

them and what

1:11:46

they're to look for and amate. And

1:11:50

because I very much try to

1:11:52

shelter them from, or

1:11:56

still do shelter them from this

1:11:58

relationship, because we never know. think

1:14:00

it's a to me, regardless

1:14:02

of having him in my

1:14:04

life, it's a good city

1:14:07

for me to continue to

1:14:09

find myself. I found

1:14:11

myself walking around and exploring

1:14:14

and feeling safe in the

1:14:16

exploration of that and looking

1:14:18

forward to what that exploration

1:14:20

looks like with my family

1:14:22

that's there and who

1:14:24

else or whoever else I get to meet

1:14:26

there. The community I picked the community, this

1:14:28

little house because literally the front doors all

1:14:30

face each other. So I feel sorry for

1:14:32

my neighbors because it's like, Hello, good morning.

1:14:34

Hello, good morning. I'm Holly. College

1:14:41

to be like, Oh, yeah, she's a morning person. Anyway,

1:14:44

we even laughed about it recently as she

1:14:46

visited, but I just

1:14:48

look forward to continuing to find out

1:14:50

about myself and meet new people and

1:14:53

and just, I'm very feel

1:14:55

very blessed to have the opportunity to

1:14:57

do so the financial aspect,

1:15:00

the financial stability that I

1:15:02

have to do so and D

1:15:05

it's, it's a cheaper way of life. I'm

1:15:08

going to be saving a lot of money and

1:15:10

and that to me gives me so much freedom

1:15:15

and less stress because living in Houston in

1:15:17

order to be in a safe place, you're

1:15:19

spending a fair amount of money. Yeah, you

1:15:22

are. And I will be yeah, we'll be

1:15:25

spending significantly less and there's a lot of freedom

1:15:27

enough for me. There is a

1:15:29

lot. There's a lot of I think to

1:15:31

maturity and just respect for where we are

1:15:33

financially. And I know that that really hit

1:15:35

me hard as well. You know, it just

1:15:37

being aware because we're, we're not that far

1:15:39

away from retirement, you know, what is that

1:15:41

gonna look like? And are we teed up

1:15:44

for that? And how smart are we now?

1:15:46

And what extra what more can we do

1:15:48

now for that final push, you know, into

1:15:50

those funds and the accounts and all

1:15:52

those things. But yeah, you know, you start to

1:15:54

see the end game and you think, Okay, well,

1:15:56

you know, do I need all this stuff? Is

1:15:59

this really of me

1:16:01

or am I not being a good

1:16:03

steward of the blessing that's been given to me and how

1:16:05

can I reframe all of this and do things a little

1:16:08

differently and I'm with you. It's not as expensive

1:16:12

out here where I am and the

1:16:14

quality of life I would say is

1:16:17

10 times better. So I feel like

1:16:19

I've- Your house is fabulous. It's fabulous.

1:16:21

And I couldn't, I mean this house

1:16:24

in Houston would be double the amount

1:16:26

easily. So, you know, I just,

1:16:28

you know, I thank my lucky stars and our

1:16:31

good Lord above. But you know,

1:16:33

also, also the wisdom, you know, we've done

1:16:35

our work and we're not, we're not there,

1:16:39

we'll never be there, but we're a

1:16:41

work in progress and we're still having

1:16:43

fun while we're doing it. Yes,

1:16:46

I do. I mean, it is

1:16:48

funny. Well, we

1:16:50

both know that God brought us

1:16:53

together, but to have these parallels

1:16:56

in our lives is not because I want

1:16:58

to be like you, it's because you're ahead

1:17:00

of me. And because if you were ahead

1:17:02

of me, think about the discussion when I

1:17:04

called you on the driveway of that Airbnb

1:17:06

where I wasn't okay. I was just like,

1:17:09

I don't understand. And you're just, and

1:17:11

because you were further along than me,

1:17:14

our lives parallel, you were able to

1:17:17

be the voice, you know, his

1:17:19

voice of wisdom, you

1:17:22

know, direction, direction. And, and

1:17:24

so yes, I look forward to,

1:17:28

I mean, I don't like the

1:17:30

valleys and I don't like that

1:17:32

you continue to get to have

1:17:34

podcasts because of my life. I'm

1:17:36

kidding. You know that material. You're

1:17:39

giving me great material, just go around. But

1:17:41

you know what, if the only thing you

1:17:44

and I have to talk about is hot

1:17:46

chocolate bonbons and your charcuterie board, we can

1:17:48

do a whole podcast on that too. Okay.

1:17:50

Yes, girlfriend, we can, we can. Our friendship

1:17:53

is amazing. You taught me how

1:17:55

to love myself, how to be comfortable in my

1:17:57

skin. You've taught me so my I

1:18:00

think about as I sit in

1:18:03

this chair, I think about when you were straight in

1:18:05

front of my face and you were putting the makeup

1:18:07

on me and how nervous I was and and

1:18:11

you just taught me. So

1:18:15

much. I'm so grateful for it. You know, this,

1:18:17

I mean, our relationship isn't about D teaches Holly

1:18:19

because you always say, Holly, you're teaching me. I'm

1:18:21

like, what am I teaching you? But

1:18:25

I'm so grateful, thankful for

1:18:29

everything that we are we are

1:18:31

going through together and sharing and

1:18:33

and trying to put it out there in a

1:18:35

public way, which is if we can help women

1:18:39

survive and thrive. I mean, I know I

1:18:41

use that word a lot because it is

1:18:43

true. You know, it's not just about surviving.

1:18:45

It's about thriving in the

1:18:48

valley where you really, really. Yeah,

1:18:53

I remember putting my head down on the washing machine.

1:18:55

I still struggle with

1:18:57

releasing of my tears. I just can't

1:19:00

I hope to get there one day.

1:19:03

But just when you're just so distraught,

1:19:05

but but but hold

1:19:07

on tight. Hold if I could

1:19:09

say anything to these women. If you're in that

1:19:11

season of life, hold

1:19:14

on tight. Is there something bigger and

1:19:16

better out there? And I

1:19:18

know there's a lot of women and men

1:19:20

in these seasons because

1:19:22

I hear about it. You know, oh, my

1:19:24

goodness, this or that. And just hold on

1:19:27

tight and believe in more and always believe

1:19:29

that you are worthy of more.

1:19:32

You're right. You know, that's so beautiful and it's so

1:19:34

true. And I

1:19:37

think, too, and this was my experience

1:19:39

while holding on tight and holding on

1:19:41

for dear life in some situations,

1:19:45

learning to let go and let

1:19:49

myself emotionally go. And

1:19:51

I struggled with that. You know, I was always just

1:19:53

the buttoned up. You know, the girl who just kept

1:19:55

her stuff together and march on. You

1:19:57

know, my mom would always say chin up. And

1:20:00

I was just that person. And I...

1:20:03

Me too. I did myself

1:20:05

a disservice actually by being that

1:20:07

person because I blocked the

1:20:09

feeling and I blocked the vulnerability because I had

1:20:11

to march on and I'd carry on and I

1:20:13

had to be the doer

1:20:16

and the decision maker and I had to make

1:20:18

things happen. And

1:20:20

I didn't get a chance to be a woman. Does

1:20:24

that make sense? I didn't get a chance... Kind of,

1:20:26

but tell me what you mean. You

1:20:28

didn't get to be your true... Well

1:20:30

you didn't get to be vulnerable. I didn't get to be correct

1:20:32

and that's where I'm heading. I didn't get to be the

1:20:34

full expression of this woman. And

1:20:37

it's not to say that women are just

1:20:39

emotional, not at all. Women

1:20:41

are all things. Women are strong. Women are

1:20:44

capable. Women are producers. They are

1:20:46

providers. They are nurturers. They

1:20:48

are caregivers. They are firm and they

1:20:50

are vulnerable and emotional. And I

1:20:52

was in such drive

1:20:55

mode because I had to be

1:20:57

that I think I did not

1:20:59

allow room for the vulnerability

1:21:01

because I had no bandwidth

1:21:03

for anything to take me down. I had

1:21:06

to keep moving and going out of necessity,

1:21:08

out of providing, out of doing. And

1:21:11

I think what you brought into my world

1:21:13

and where I give you so much credit

1:21:15

and I've also been burned in friendships in

1:21:17

the past where I've shared things and my

1:21:19

trust was betrayed. So I

1:21:22

even had this sense of well who

1:21:24

can I really trust? And

1:21:26

you came in and there was just a

1:21:28

quality about you that was so real and

1:21:31

raw and honest and there

1:21:33

was such a sense, I can't explain it Holly,

1:21:35

I can't explain it, but there was just a

1:21:37

sense that I had about you that I could

1:21:40

give you my heart and you

1:21:42

would hold it and you would care

1:21:44

for it and you would let me fill

1:21:46

out the woman that

1:21:48

I was designed to be. So

1:21:51

that's why I thank you because

1:21:53

that was an expression that I really wasn't

1:21:56

given and I'm grateful there was

1:21:58

a reason you came into my life. when you

1:22:00

did because it was something I desperately needed.

1:22:02

So, yeah. I remember, thank

1:22:05

you, like Dee, thank you. I

1:22:08

remember that day. I remember where we were sitting.

1:22:10

I remember where situations

1:22:13

in our lives and the communication

1:22:15

we were having and

1:22:18

that it's like, you

1:22:20

know, you turn, in any relationship you

1:22:22

turn corners. And that was a

1:22:24

corner where I, because of what

1:22:26

I'd been through, I was able

1:22:28

to help you with situations you were

1:22:30

going through and be very matter

1:22:33

of fact, because you know, I'm going to just

1:22:35

be like black and white and just say

1:22:37

it like I mean it. And

1:22:40

I'm so thankful and grateful

1:22:42

that you've got to experience

1:22:44

a healthy relationship with another

1:22:46

woman. And I know why it

1:22:48

didn't happen because Dee, you're

1:22:51

such a beautiful person inside. Do

1:22:54

you hear me say inside? And then

1:22:56

the beauty on the outside. I mean, everybody's

1:22:58

like, oh my gosh, you know, she's Dominique

1:23:00

Saksa beautiful. I'll never forget when I was

1:23:02

told that. I'm like, it's so funny, but

1:23:05

hold on, but hold on. Of course. I

1:23:07

mean, you're absolutely beautiful. But what people don't

1:23:10

know is your true beauty inside that you

1:23:12

are just, I mean, you're

1:23:14

probably more, you're probably more kind than

1:23:16

I am. Just the way

1:23:18

you are. I mean, I think about when you were

1:23:20

like reaching out to me in this and you're like,

1:23:23

take my calls. I'm like, I can't talk. I just can't

1:23:25

talk. And you're like, okay, I'm here. And I'm like,

1:23:29

okay. So I'm

1:23:33

so grateful that people are getting to see

1:23:35

this aspect of you because you are just

1:23:37

like, oh my gosh, Dominique Saksa. But what

1:23:39

they really need to know is you're

1:23:42

just Dee, just like me. And

1:23:44

that's why we work because

1:23:47

there's a whole lot of me in

1:23:49

you. And I

1:23:54

can't honestly imagine how you live your life.

1:23:57

I don't know how you live your life. I, I

1:24:01

see comments. I don't look at much,

1:24:03

but I'm very proud of you. You're

1:24:05

a woman of noble, amazing character and

1:24:07

people. I kind of tease.

1:24:09

I'm like, oh my gosh, you're like

1:24:11

the fan clubs. They're kind of crazy.

1:24:13

Because you know, I'm like, what is

1:24:16

this? But you're a woman worthy of

1:24:24

a fan club because you're

1:24:27

beautiful inside and out. And

1:24:30

I just, if I could tell

1:24:32

anybody that or like people

1:24:34

that like, no, like, like, like

1:24:36

you're beautiful inside and out. And

1:24:39

they, you

1:24:42

are getting to share that more on

1:24:44

your podcast. You know, when people see

1:24:46

you like who you are

1:24:49

on the camera. Oh, you're even better

1:24:51

in person. But

1:24:54

yeah, I'm just proud of you. I'm proud that,

1:24:56

I mean, this is, I'm so, you

1:24:58

coming into my life has

1:25:01

made me stronger and

1:25:04

happier and healthier. And if

1:25:06

there's anything else I can do, like for other

1:25:08

women, because that's my true loves to like help

1:25:11

women in situations that I might've

1:25:13

been through. And I

1:25:15

have so many topics that I can discuss, whether

1:25:18

it be from adoption to, you know,

1:25:23

surgeries to all these different topics, as much

1:25:25

as I don't like that I can speak

1:25:27

on all those topics. I'm

1:25:29

grateful for them that I can use them like

1:25:32

you are helping these women. You try and think

1:25:34

of these topics, like how you can grow them

1:25:36

and help them. And I just,

1:25:39

how blessed are we that we

1:25:41

are being used in this

1:25:44

arena, in his arena to

1:25:46

help others in a crazy time of

1:25:48

life? I mean, like, I'm sorry, this

1:25:51

world is not exactly like, okay.

1:25:53

No, it's not okay. It's not.

1:25:56

And we don't talk about politics. And we don't talk

1:25:58

about all that, but it is kind of, getting scary.

1:26:01

Just the way I've been even treated in this

1:26:05

season with like the management company and

1:26:08

the owner of that place. It's just,

1:26:10

it's so revealing of people's character. Like

1:26:13

there is a character that

1:26:15

seems to be really off.

1:26:18

There's a harshness and a

1:26:20

soullessness that I'm seeing

1:26:23

that is concerning. It is

1:26:25

very concerning. And I

1:26:27

don't know where, how, when people

1:26:30

got so off track to

1:26:33

lose compassion for one

1:26:35

another. You know,

1:26:38

you lose compassion and

1:26:40

you don't care anymore about your neighbor, then

1:26:42

you've got a lawless society and I'm not,

1:26:44

I'm not going to get into politics. That's

1:26:46

not my lane. It's not my thing. You

1:26:48

know, we all have our beliefs and like

1:26:51

I said, there are many platforms where you

1:26:53

can go follow people who talk on that

1:26:55

realm. But what

1:26:57

I'm talking about and what you're alluding

1:26:59

to is just a lack of moral

1:27:02

character, unscrupulousness,

1:27:06

harshness and just sometimes evil.

1:27:09

And that's where the concern

1:27:11

lies. And you know, if

1:27:13

more people aren't aware and

1:27:16

sensitive to it, you know, we

1:27:18

just, we need to right the ship. And that's

1:27:21

kind of what I feel like for

1:27:24

my platform. It's about, and it's

1:27:26

why I love having you because

1:27:28

these open, real, honest conversations. I

1:27:30

love it. You know, this is

1:27:32

about, this is about being real.

1:27:34

This is about sharing life's journey.

1:27:36

It's about overcoming hurdles and obstacles,

1:27:38

but it's about encouragement and it's

1:27:40

about leaving people hopefully better than

1:27:43

where they were an hour or an hour

1:27:45

and a half ago or however long this thing has been

1:27:47

running. I don't know. I've lost track of time, but I

1:27:49

know hasn't come to see us. I

1:27:53

know. I think the Courtney's already driving me Houston. I

1:27:55

think she's like, all right, I'm done with you too.

1:28:01

She's just going to this for a weekend. There

1:28:03

she's popping on. Oh, there she is. She's going

1:28:05

to be family. But yeah,

1:28:07

I mean, the whole point of

1:28:10

what I enjoy doing is

1:28:12

what you enjoy doing, inspiring,

1:28:14

educating, bringing people, bringing thought

1:28:16

leaders, bringing people with

1:28:18

a story to the conversation to just get you

1:28:21

to think. Just think, act

1:28:23

differently. Act from a place. Come from

1:28:25

a place of love. Come from a

1:28:27

place of informed, intelligent. Come from a

1:28:29

place of knowledge. Don't come from a

1:28:31

place of hurt, pain. Because you tend

1:28:33

to lash out and do things that

1:28:36

really make the world a worse place and not a better

1:28:38

place when you do that. OD,

1:28:42

with what you're saying to

1:28:44

me, it's that people have

1:28:47

lost the sense of loving

1:28:49

themselves. Therefore,

1:28:51

they are not loving others. They're

1:28:54

not loving themselves because they're not happy

1:28:56

with their life, whether it's their job

1:28:58

or their financial status or whatever. I

1:29:01

mean, all the ingredients. But

1:29:03

when people are

1:29:05

me, speak for myself, stop

1:29:08

loving myself, that's

1:29:10

when the icky yucky of

1:29:13

myself, and you've got it too, comes out.

1:29:15

So if we can get back to the

1:29:18

nature of everyone working

1:29:20

on themselves and loving

1:29:22

themselves, being comfortable in

1:29:24

their skin, even though they might not like

1:29:26

the ingredients that are in their life, but

1:29:29

working towards loving those ingredients,

1:29:32

there will be more grace and

1:29:34

kindness. And I

1:29:38

just think it would be better. When

1:29:40

I am treated so poorly by others, all I

1:29:42

can think of is, wow, you're

1:29:45

so unhappy. And

1:29:48

that comes from people that are incredibly blessed.

1:29:50

And you're like, you still are going

1:29:52

to act like that? I

1:29:54

just wish that people would work

1:29:57

on loving themselves. Therefore, they could

1:29:59

be kind. to others. I agree

1:30:01

with you. I agree and and to to

1:30:03

you know how can I make a difference

1:30:05

in somebody's life? What can I do to

1:30:07

elevate somebody else today and get out of

1:30:09

your own world and out of your own

1:30:11

head and and make somebody else feel special

1:30:13

and valued and cared for you

1:30:15

know that that is the quickest way to

1:30:17

feel better about yourself is to care for somebody

1:30:19

else and say something and do something loving.

1:30:22

So I'm gonna say here's one easy

1:30:24

tip hold on one one real real

1:30:26

quick tip and I think I've told

1:30:28

you this if you go into a restaurant

1:30:30

and you sit at the bar whether you're going to have

1:30:32

a drink or eat make

1:30:34

sure to enter ask the

1:30:36

ask the waiter waitress their

1:30:39

name and share your

1:30:41

name and that has been the most

1:30:44

fun enjoyable thing that I've done

1:30:46

with each one of my days

1:30:48

and it's so exciting to see

1:30:51

that person be seen

1:30:53

they're like wait I'm a person so if

1:30:56

that's one fun little tip that we can

1:30:58

share like go out and acknowledge the people

1:31:01

that are serving you and make

1:31:03

them a person and you become a person to

1:31:05

them. That's exactly right and validate you know people

1:31:07

just want to be validated they want to be

1:31:09

seen and they want to be seen so it's

1:31:11

so basic. I

1:31:13

mean I know I so know we're

1:31:15

over but I'm like I just have

1:31:17

to share that because I just really

1:31:19

enjoy that that exercise in humanity. I

1:31:21

agree with you. I agree it's a

1:31:24

beautiful exercise and we can all you

1:31:26

know if we leave you with that

1:31:28

encouragement exercise your humanity you know and

1:31:31

make this world a good home work

1:31:33

girlfriend. I mean we left off with

1:31:35

some homework. Good homework for everybody wanted.

1:31:38

Hey this is the great job of homework.

1:31:41

I love you if you need

1:31:44

me for anything if you need me

1:31:46

to help move you need someone else.

1:31:48

I feel so blessed because you've got

1:31:50

such a beautiful wonderful friend group

1:31:52

in Houston and I know they have rallied

1:31:54

around you. I'm so grateful for them and

1:31:56

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1:31:58

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