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only. Hello everybody

1:41

and welcome back

1:43

to the people

1:46

podcast with Matt

1:48

and Tommy. We

1:50

are here for

1:52

your favorite

1:54

series in the

1:57

entire world where

1:59

we a tribute numbers to

2:01

drivers out of 10 to

2:03

grade their performance over the

2:06

course of the Australian Grand

2:08

Prix weekend. Tommy how excited

2:10

are you that F1 driver

2:12

ratings is back? I'm hyped

2:14

and the fact that we've

2:16

got the yeah a crazy

2:18

race to start the season means

2:20

that it's going to be a

2:23

good one I think. Oh yeah we

2:25

got a lot of drives to get

2:27

through so shall we start it? Let's

2:30

do it. When I ask you, shall

2:32

we start it? Usually I thought

2:34

you were gonna, I thought you

2:37

were gonna go. And let's start

2:39

with, no, no, I thought, I

2:41

literally thought that was you too.

2:44

Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay, good

2:46

stuff. We're so in sync. Nico

2:49

Holkenberg started 17th, finished 7th.

2:51

It's a 10 out of

2:53

10. Nico Holkenberg has

2:55

finished 7th in a

2:57

wheelie bin. Like there is

2:59

no two ways about this. That is like

3:02

Tommy running around the circuit

3:04

and getting points. I'm sorry.

3:06

I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry in

3:08

the slightest. We're starting the

3:10

season with a perfect score

3:12

from Nick Olga. Yes, it's

3:14

qualifying wasn't that great. But

3:16

that's like a sprinkle, okay? That's

3:18

like a half a point off

3:20

and then he gets 10 and a

3:23

half for the race. Because he

3:25

finished ahead of both Ferraris. In

3:27

a Sauber. There you go. 10. I've gone

3:29

for a nine out of ten. Nika, I'll

3:31

come back. If that wasn't, if

3:33

I was bought let it be

3:36

25. Exactly, because he's a rookie.

3:38

Yeah, the qualifying was a

3:40

little, little sprinkling of

3:42

disappointment in a very good

3:44

drive from him, of course. And yeah,

3:46

to get points already when

3:48

I thought it was going to be

3:50

20th in the championship. Sure proved

3:53

me wrong. So a great job

3:55

from Nika Holkenberg. Too good enough

3:58

though. Well, it's not it's not

4:00

perfection is it? But no it's

4:02

a good drive, very good drive.

4:04

This craft is that willy been

4:06

around that circuit beautifully. The fans

4:08

gave Nico a nine. Gabriel Bortiletto

4:10

started the race in 15th,

4:13

did not finish. I've gone for

4:15

a five out of ten for

4:17

Gabriel Bortiletto. Very disappointing

4:20

way to end his race because I

4:22

think he was doing a very solid

4:24

job of course. One of the stars

4:26

of qualifying, think because of because

4:28

of... how he made Q2 in

4:30

that wheelie bin. And then yeah,

4:33

very disappointing to kind of spin

4:35

off and have that crash. I know

4:37

there was a lot of people kind

4:39

of questioning whether it was his fault

4:41

because of the kind of unusual

4:44

way the suspension kind of broke

4:46

as he was going backwards into

4:48

the wall, but it was resulting

4:50

from, you know, him spinning out,

4:52

which was drive for error, but

4:54

of course, you know, so many

4:56

rookies and drivers crashed out. but

4:58

it was still a fairly decent

5:00

job just a shame the way it ended

5:02

so yeah come for a five okay I've

5:04

gone for a four purely because he

5:06

did crash out so I don't think

5:09

I can be putting it down the

5:11

middle for Gabriel as much

5:13

as he is a rookie

5:15

difficult conditions downgrade him slightly

5:17

because of because of the

5:19

error of course got deep into the

5:21

race and so we kind of have

5:23

to give him some props for that

5:25

but it's it was such a weird

5:27

crazy race where almost surviving was

5:30

seen as a minor achievement probably even

5:32

a major achievement for some of

5:34

the drivers out there but yeah

5:36

four out ten for me he

5:38

was obviously noted for an unsafe

5:40

release as well given a five-second

5:43

penalty crashed on lap 47 but

5:45

yeah it just wasn't the the

5:47

first race I think that the

5:49

boss letter would have wanted but

5:51

qualifying was Reasonably exciting

5:53

for him to beat Nico

5:55

is no mean feat. The

5:57

fans gave Gabrielle a five.

6:00

Alex Albon started the race in

6:02

6th, finished 5th. It's 10 out

6:05

of 10. We're throwing tens out

6:07

here like there's no tomorrow, but

6:09

I feel as though the drivers

6:11

that really excelled deserve it. Alex

6:13

Albon was absolutely one of them.

6:16

He was just in the mix

6:18

the whole time. Of course, Carlos

6:20

Sines, he isn't going to be

6:22

receiving an extra point in his

6:25

driver rating because of the fact

6:27

that no. Well, you know he's

6:29

not getting a 10. So that's

6:31

about all that spoiled. Oh, that's

6:33

crazy from you. Because as the

6:36

point I was making, is that

6:38

Carlos, of course, said that he

6:40

helps with the strategy. So he

6:42

doesn't get a point for that.

6:44

But Alex Albon was, yeah, very,

6:47

very on point with the strategic

6:49

calls. He, of course, did finish

6:51

P5 on the road. So funny

6:53

after the race that he said.

6:55

Yeah, I don't know. He was

6:58

like, wow, I kind of wish

7:00

we didn't just come out the

7:02

blocks and get a P4, like

7:04

you have a bad season, and

7:06

then you get a great result.

7:09

You kind of get noticed more,

7:11

and I found that quite a

7:13

funny comment, because it's true. You

7:15

have to have the struggle in

7:17

order for them people to go,

7:20

oh my God, that's amazing. But

7:22

we are saying, oh my God,

7:24

it's amazing now, Alex. You've done

7:26

a great job, 10 out of

7:29

10 out of 10. His race

7:31

was amazing, but also his qualifying

7:33

to beat Carlos when everyone was

7:35

expecting Carlos to be, you know,

7:37

potentially even completely thrashing him this

7:40

year, of course. And for Alex

7:42

to get to that first race,

7:44

beat Carlos in qualifying and then

7:46

deliver an absolutely sensational race in

7:48

tough conditions. Such a good drive

7:51

for him and an amazing result

7:53

to be. P5 in the end

7:55

as it was. I think it

7:57

was their best finish wasn't it

7:59

since George Russell's four... to podium

8:02

at Spa that year, but still

8:04

a really great result for Williams.

8:06

The fans gave Alex Albon a

8:08

10 as well, and of course

8:10

I'm a big fan, because I'm

8:13

wearing Williams' merch. We moved to

8:15

Carlos Signs. Started the race in

8:17

10. Did not finish. I've gone

8:19

for a 2 out of 10

8:21

for Carlos Science. I think it

8:24

was a really poor weekend. Of

8:26

course, out qualified by his teammate.

8:28

which you can forgive because it

8:30

was still decent to be P10,

8:33

but then to crash so early

8:35

on behind the safety car, we

8:37

of course saw it with quite

8:39

a few rookies and things, but

8:41

he's a veteran of the sport

8:44

and a race winner. And such

8:46

a disappointing kind of start to

8:48

his Williams career because, you know,

8:50

when Carlos joined Williams, they'd have...

8:52

We all know what happened last

8:55

year with Williams and the amount

8:57

of crashes they had and they

8:59

think with a safe pair of

9:01

hands like Carlos It's not going

9:03

to happen anymore, but unfortunately for

9:06

them it did in the very

9:08

first race So yeah, really poor

9:10

start to Carlos sciences Williams career,

9:12

but I don't think it's going

9:14

to continue The three so that

9:17

was pretty good I have gone

9:19

for a three out of ten

9:21

so slightly more lenient and the

9:23

only reason I am is because

9:25

they were quite or Carlos was

9:28

a little bit it wasn't clear

9:30

what really went on so what

9:32

we've got as a quote was

9:34

we've looked at the data and

9:37

could quickly spot what happened so

9:39

this leaves me calmer about the

9:41

situation it's related to the upshifts

9:43

when in safety car mode so

9:45

from what I understand there it's

9:48

just Carlos not being used to

9:50

the power unit in the back

9:52

of that Williams and he made

9:54

an error so there is an

9:56

element of okay fair enough you

9:59

are still getting to know the

10:01

team but then there's also a

10:03

you still crashed the car and

10:05

so it's it's a hard one

10:07

and it's It's hard with some

10:10

of these drivers for sure because

10:12

it was just a ridiculous race.

10:14

I've gone for three for Carlos

10:16

and I am in agreement with

10:18

you that he will bounce back.

10:21

I probably should have even, you

10:23

know, backed him for China maybe,

10:25

but alas, Carlos right now, three

10:27

out of ten, the fans gave

10:29

him a four. Yuki Sonoda! Started

10:32

the race in fifth, finished 12th.

10:34

Oh my God. These are the

10:36

points, Tommy, where I'm like, we

10:38

should give team grades, because racing

10:41

balls would get a zero. I

10:43

have gone for a nine out

10:45

of ten for Yuki Sonoda. I

10:47

have, I have, because he was

10:49

just completely screwed. I am a

10:52

Yuki fan boy right now. I

10:54

am defending him almightyly. He qualified

10:56

fifth. And then racing balls were

10:58

like... Stay out. Just stay out.

11:00

We're going to be fine. Who

11:03

are the other team that's staying

11:05

out for Rari? No, yeah, we're

11:07

all good. For Rari, we know

11:09

what they're doing. They always get

11:11

it right. Yeah, they always get

11:14

the strategy right. I just, I

11:16

think Senoda did so many things

11:18

right that he deserves a high

11:20

grade as much as the 12th

11:22

doesn't even begin to tell the

11:25

story. I'm sticking with

11:27

it, it's a 9 out of

11:29

10, I'm going for it. I've

11:31

gone for a 9 out of

11:34

10 and I thought it was

11:36

going to be a hot take.

11:38

But there we are agreeing. I

11:40

think this is the epitome of

11:42

driver ratings that it is your

11:45

rating the driver's race and not

11:47

just their result. Because Yeky Sinoda

11:49

put in an absolutely sensational qualifying

11:51

to be P5. And then in

11:54

the race, he was there, he

11:56

stayed there, he was, he was

11:58

kind of, you know, he was

12:00

fighting the... ahead of the Ferraris,

12:03

he was best of the rest,

12:05

ahead of Alex Alvin, who of

12:07

course we've given a 10 out

12:09

of 10. And he's just so

12:12

unlucky because it would have been

12:14

an absolutely fantastic result. And they

12:16

played that little gamble which is

12:18

fair enough on the first kind

12:20

of incident, maybe going extra lap.

12:23

Okay, they're in P2. But classic.

12:25

racing bulls or alphattowery or whatever

12:27

they've been and this seems to

12:29

happen so much. They just go

12:32

for glory so often when they

12:34

don't need to and Yuki was

12:36

literally like, had absolutely no grip

12:38

at all and they're going on

12:41

the radio going, stay out, stay

12:43

out, stay out, stay out. It's

12:45

like, are you joking? So that

12:47

I can't, I can't, you know,

12:50

can't just give him like a

12:52

six or a seven because he's

12:54

finished 12 because... he drove such

12:56

a good race and just really

12:58

unlucky with with the conditions well

13:01

you know who could give him

13:03

a seven the fans ridiculous now

13:05

it's our turn actually we take

13:07

we get enough stick from you

13:10

lot about our bloody numbers it's

13:12

right back at you a seven

13:14

out of ten do you even

13:16

watch the race do you tune

13:19

in yeah exactly do you know

13:21

we'll do you have some of

13:23

that back we get a little

13:25

season There you go. Maybe this

13:28

is the way we do drive

13:30

a rating. We just attack our

13:32

audience. Yeah, we get involved in

13:34

the outrage as well. Yeah, exactly.

13:36

Yeah, but the fans went for

13:39

a seven for Yiki Sinoda. Isaac

13:41

Hadjar is up next started the

13:43

race in 11th and did not

13:45

start. I've gone for a two

13:48

out of 10 for Hadjar. It's

13:50

gutting to give him that grade,

13:52

but... You know, he did a

13:54

great job, he was best of

13:57

the rookies in qualifying, and I

13:59

think he's going to have a

14:01

good season. I think and but

14:03

I can't you can't get away

14:06

from the fact that he did

14:08

crash before the race even started.

14:10

I know a lot of two

14:12

feels like there's some emotion attached

14:14

to that time I'm not gonna

14:17

lie to you. I thought yeah

14:19

that's a bit of a like

14:21

decent job in qualifying but you've

14:23

gone off in extremely tricky conditions.

14:26

Yeah it's it's it's going so

14:28

yeah gone for a two. Okay.

14:30

I thought I was being generous

14:32

by giving him a one out

14:35

of ten because he literally crashed

14:37

before the race even begun. Of

14:39

course he did great in qualifying

14:41

but I can't, like, the race,

14:44

the lights hadn't even gone out.

14:46

I have to be reasonably objective

14:48

here. I do feel incredibly sorry

14:50

for him and it is really

14:52

tough to watch but at the

14:55

same time it happened and that's

14:57

what we're grading, grading them on.

14:59

So I've gone for a one.

15:01

A little nod to qualifying. I

15:04

feel like he will bounce back

15:06

if he ignores certain people that

15:08

want to say silly things about

15:10

him. And that's that really. What

15:13

more can we reflect on? Because

15:15

he literally didn't have a race.

15:17

The fans gave him a zero.

15:19

Esteban Ocon started the race in

15:22

19th, finished 13th. I think hass

15:24

are the has of old where

15:26

you don't see hass and then

15:28

you're like, huh. I'm going to

15:30

go for a 5 out of

15:33

10 for Esteban Ocon. I want

15:35

to give the hash strategic pit

15:37

wall a minus 7, but for

15:39

Ocon he survived the race in

15:42

the worst car on the grid,

15:44

didn't make any points, still utterly

15:46

bizarre why they went off the

15:48

intermediate tires when it was about

15:51

to rain, but... As for Okon's

15:53

performance, gained six positions, didn't crash

15:55

into the wall, still nowhere near

15:57

the points, five out of ten.

16:01

I'm going to go for... How's

16:04

it going to be the new

16:06

kind of... Sauber, aren't they, where

16:08

we go? Has he put in

16:10

the greatest performance of his life?

16:12

I don't think he has, but

16:14

where can he go? I'm going

16:16

to go for a five as

16:18

well. Yeah, it's just such a

16:20

difficult one because he's driving maybe...

16:22

Is it the new cyber, like

16:24

we say, is it the worst

16:26

car in the field now? He's

16:28

had a clean weekend. No, actually,

16:30

no, you know what, I'm going

16:32

to go for a six. I'm

16:34

going to go for a six

16:36

because he's driving a terrible and

16:38

I need to give him more

16:40

props than the weekend that his

16:42

teammate has had. So I'm going

16:44

to go for a six. Okay,

16:46

and also, just quickly, on Ocon,

16:48

we were talking about how his

16:50

move to has looked like a

16:52

pretty good thing. I know, and

16:55

look what's happened. You've got flipping

16:57

Nico Holkenberg that we thought would

16:59

be finishing in 19th every race.

17:01

We've got 20th for you because

17:03

you thought what letter would be

17:05

him. He's finished 7th in the

17:07

first race of the season. Okon's

17:09

like, what is going on? So

17:11

yeah, just wanted to mention that.

17:13

The fans gave Okon a 5.

17:15

Oliver Berman. Started from the pit

17:17

lane and finished the race in

17:19

14th. We're gone for a four

17:21

out of 10, Farley Bali Berman.

17:23

A shocking weekend has to be

17:25

said for him. I know he's

17:27

a rookie, but of course he

17:29

has done three races beforehand. Plenty

17:31

of experience. Plenty of experience now.

17:33

But even still with a few

17:35

races to, in the dry sessions,

17:37

you know, to have those offs,

17:39

them to fix the car and

17:41

go off again. completely put him

17:43

on the back foot and then

17:45

in even in the race he

17:48

was kind of had a few

17:50

wobbles and things are sort of

17:52

a clip as well where God

17:54

forbid he has a wobble in

17:56

tricky conditions. I know I know

17:58

but he did so it's a

18:00

four out ten. I've also gone

18:02

for a four out of ten

18:04

for Ollie Bermon. I can't give

18:06

him any higher than that just

18:08

because it was a disaster of

18:10

a weekend even before qualifying you

18:12

know to to crash an FP1

18:14

to beach in FP3. Obviously he

18:16

had problems in qualifying that wasn't

18:18

his fault with the gearbox. So

18:20

it was all against him anyway

18:22

and then was just kind of

18:24

trundling around at the back. I

18:26

mean after the race he said

18:28

he was quite happy with this

18:30

performance, felt like he executed pretty

18:32

well. There was a few things

18:34

where they lost a bit of

18:36

time. I'm pretty sure one of

18:39

them was quite an extravagant one

18:41

where he obviously nearly wobbles into

18:43

the stappen. Didn't he have a

18:45

spin as well? We spun off,

18:47

yeah, the team were like, be

18:49

careful at 1013, it's really wet,

18:51

and then he just went straight

18:53

off. Yeah, so I wouldn't say

18:55

it was probably the best race

18:57

for Ollie Bairman, and of course,

18:59

after we saw him in Brazil,

19:01

struggle massively as well, it is

19:03

a big learning curve, a steep

19:05

one, to get up to speed

19:07

in these cars in tricky conditions.

19:09

The fans gave Ollie a five.

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It's a 10. It's a 10.

33:49

It's a 10 for Max. It

33:51

is. No, I don't, I can't

33:53

believe I'm actually going to have

33:55

to explain this to some people

33:57

that might say that he ran

33:59

wide onto the curb and gave

34:01

up the position to Piastri. I

34:04

am fully of the opinion that

34:06

Max Vastapin is out driving that

34:08

car by an absolute mile in

34:10

that race. He was going three

34:12

seconds a lap quicker than Liam

34:14

Lawson. Now I know Lawson is

34:16

having his own problems, but you

34:19

still have to say that Max

34:21

is going three seconds a lap

34:23

quicker in the same car. He

34:25

is fighting the McLarens. Of course

34:27

he fell off his tires. degraded,

34:29

the McLarens were very good on

34:31

their tires, scarily good on their

34:33

tires it has to be said,

34:36

but Max gave us a fight

34:38

for the win and made a

34:40

minor mistake, but that was it

34:42

across the Grand Prix. So I

34:44

can't downgrade him any lower than

34:46

that because I do genuinely think

34:48

he got absolutely everything out of

34:51

that car. So 10. Yeah, it's

34:53

an easy 10 from me as

34:55

well. an amazing drive from Max's

34:57

step and just showing why even

34:59

when he's not got the best

35:01

car, why is the best driver

35:03

in the sport to finish less

35:06

than a second from winning the

35:08

race when he had that much

35:10

of a deficit in car performance

35:12

to the McLarens is amazing in

35:14

those conditions and yeah you saw

35:16

you saw in the dry even

35:18

kind of how far he was

35:21

dropping back a little bit and

35:23

you're kind of going, okay, the

35:25

McLarens are insanely, insanely quick, but

35:27

when the rain came down and,

35:29

you know, as much as he

35:31

could, he delivered the performance and

35:33

fought all the way to the

35:35

end. You know, a track, a

35:38

track that's maybe easier to overtake,

35:40

he might have won that race

35:42

with the, with the DRS that

35:44

he got from, from Lando. And

35:46

he, I don't, you can say

35:48

what, what you like about what

35:50

you like about about... That

35:53

car and the second thing

35:55

is so hard to judge

35:57

the Red Bull because of

35:59

course Max does amazing things

36:01

and we know we've already

36:03

spoken so many times about

36:05

the second seat, second seat

36:08

and how it is and

36:10

stuff, but to be that

36:12

that close to winning the

36:14

race in that car is

36:16

insane. Certainly is, and how

36:18

times have changed, but literally

36:20

this time last year the

36:22

Red Bull was unbelievable, and

36:24

now look at us. The

36:26

fans gave Max and Nine.

36:28

Over to you Tommy? No,

36:30

it's all right, I'll let

36:32

you off this one. Oh,

36:35

I've already popped off and

36:37

I said, there's no way

36:39

you can not give... Nine's

36:41

outrageous. Like, how can you,

36:43

how can you give Maxine

36:45

nine? We've delivered... Everything. It's

36:47

crazy. Like, yeah, tree. He

36:49

didn't win the race and

36:51

he's Max for stepping and

36:53

he's, you know, he's a

36:55

multiple world champion. We move

36:57

on to his teammate, Liam

37:00

Lawson. It's a shocking weekend.

37:02

I know the car is

37:04

a handful and we've seen

37:06

drivers struggle in it. But

37:08

it couldn't have gone any

37:10

worse really. Shocking qualifying already

37:12

made the headlines of always,

37:14

you know, meant to be

37:16

better than Perez. They've got

37:18

rid of Perez and here

37:20

we are. Lawson qualifying 18th.

37:22

Then we get to the

37:24

race. Could the tricky

37:26

conditions be a level and no

37:29

quite the opposite and sometimes was

37:31

lapping three seconds a lap slower

37:33

than the stapper which is utterly

37:35

insane? And then he even kind

37:37

of got some good fortune where

37:39

he was he was lapped by

37:42

the McLarens and then even got

37:44

some good fortune where somehow found

37:46

himself not only back in the

37:48

race but running high up in

37:50

the points because of the way,

37:52

you know, the safety cars and

37:55

things had played out. and then

37:57

he stuck in the wall. So

37:59

just absolute shocker. for Lawson and

38:01

such a difficult way to start

38:03

the Red Bull career because we

38:05

know how much pressure there is

38:08

and how these drivers can spiral

38:10

and get worse, but it's almost

38:12

kind of thinking how can it

38:14

get any worse than that, surely

38:16

you can't have a worse race

38:18

than that really. No, and that's

38:21

why I have also gone for

38:23

a two and it's a lenient

38:25

two. It is a... First race

38:27

of the season, you're in a

38:29

car that's very very difficult in

38:31

very very difficult conditions, kind of

38:34

two. In any other world, that's

38:36

a zero, in a lot of

38:38

ways. If you've had a season

38:40

in the car and he put

38:42

that in performance in, there was

38:44

nothing to write home about for

38:47

Liam Lawson's performance this weekend. Of

38:49

course he missed some running in

38:51

FP3 and things were not looking

38:53

his way, but just didn't have

38:55

the pace at all. He himself

38:57

has said in the past that

39:00

it's the driver's responsibility to adapt

39:02

to the car. So this excuse

39:04

can only go so far of

39:06

getting up to speed in the

39:08

Red Bull, but this is more

39:10

down to Red Bull as well.

39:13

They have to work with Lawson

39:15

to create a car that he

39:17

can drive. As much as you

39:19

can argue... Do they want to

39:21

have someone finishing 17th every race?

39:23

No. So for me, and I've

39:26

obviously mentioned that we've had four

39:28

drivers now all prove that that

39:30

second seat is not good for

39:32

drivers, rebel have to change their

39:34

way of working. They have to

39:36

feel the two-car team if they

39:39

want to win aside from the

39:41

drivers, the constructors. And they can't

39:43

function surely for the foreseeable future

39:45

with just one car. I would

39:47

actually argue that. They can and

39:49

they will that just the disappoint

39:52

that the crazy thing is and

39:54

I guess you have to fact

39:56

it in the fact that what

39:58

do they do? where Max lives.

40:00

Now I think in a weird

40:02

way it is the right strategy

40:05

that you just back Max all

40:07

the way. They're not going to

40:09

be that McLaren in the Constructors

40:11

probably. So just go for Max

40:13

for the Drives Championship and give

40:15

Max everything to try and get

40:18

it because that is the big

40:20

one. But as a team, as

40:22

a business of Red Bowl, that

40:24

makes no sense because short-term gain

40:26

maybe, long-term disaster. Because... I don't

40:28

care about the constructors, too. No,

40:31

but if Max leaves, as you

40:33

said... Oh, no, that's what I

40:35

said. You're not safeguarding for the

40:37

future by putting every egg into

40:39

Max's basket. When we go into

40:41

2026, when the cars will change,

40:44

the new regulations will kick in

40:46

Red Water and get some 8

40:48

billion pounds of rice. Yeah, goes,

40:50

how much do you want? Okay,

40:52

here's a blank check, just write

40:54

down what you need. Actually, just

40:57

on that, just while we're chatting

40:59

about it. Did you hear Max's

41:01

comment about Zach Brown giving him

41:03

a ring? Yeah, and then he

41:05

said about how much it cost

41:07

and then it basically ended very

41:10

quickly. Yeah, quite quite interesting. But

41:12

yeah, anyway, back to Lawson. It's

41:14

two out of ten for both

41:16

of us and the fans gave

41:18

him a two as well. Lewis

41:20

Hamilton started the race in eighth,

41:23

finished tenth. Five out of ten

41:25

for me for Lewis Hamilton. Partly

41:27

to do with strategy. partly is

41:29

luck of the draw a little

41:31

bit rolling the dice. Some weather

41:33

forecast saying something, some saying others,

41:36

bit of Ferrari sprinkled in there

41:38

as well, communication issues, Hamilton getting

41:40

used to the car, I've gone

41:42

for a five, it really isn't

41:44

a performance that we're used to

41:46

seeing from Hamilton in those kind

41:49

of conditions. There's been so many

41:51

incredible drives that Hamilton's put in

41:53

in those kind of tricky. tricky

41:55

environments. So it's a sad five

41:57

because I want to see Hamilton

41:59

up there and not just for

42:02

30 seconds leading the race. I've

42:04

gone for a five. Temple is

42:06

Hamilton as well. I'd even like

42:08

consider a four but that kind

42:10

of has to be reserved for

42:12

the people that have stuck it

42:15

in the wall so he's kind

42:17

of fortunate in that yeah he's

42:19

fortunate in that sense but it

42:21

was a poor race from Hamilton

42:23

and the fact that we know

42:25

qualifying is not his strong point

42:28

but if you think go to

42:30

last year, the races is where

42:32

it comes alive and then also

42:34

it's a wet race. I think

42:36

those would be his conditions. I

42:38

know he's got to get used

42:41

to the Ferrari and the way

42:43

of them kind of working. And

42:45

some of it was, you know,

42:47

the team messing up and things.

42:49

It was stuck behind Alex Albarn

42:51

for seemingly forever, which we saw

42:54

a lot of because the TV

42:56

direction was clearly. told to follow

42:58

him as much as possible. It

43:00

felt like as we're kind of

43:02

seeing him. And just a really

43:04

poor weekend from him in a

43:07

kind of conditions that you'd expect

43:09

him to really excel even in

43:11

a kind of new team and

43:13

new environment. So yeah, I just

43:15

didn't feel like Lewis Hamilton at

43:17

all. And then, you know, even

43:20

getting kind of done by pedestrian

43:22

the final lap and overtaken by

43:24

LaClaire as well. Yeah, just... not

43:26

a very characteristic drive from Lewis

43:28

Hamilton in wet conditions. The fans

43:30

gave Hamilton a 5 as well.

43:33

Charlotte Claire started 7th finished 8th.

43:35

I've gone for a 6 out

43:37

of 10 for Charlotte Claire. Disappointing

43:39

result. I think there was more

43:41

from him in qualifying, which we

43:43

know where he normally excels. Then

43:46

to go backwards in the race.

43:48

when so many people have tripped

43:50

up and you're finishing, you know,

43:52

behind a salba. I know the

43:54

cars not quite there, but you

43:56

think, you know the talents of

43:59

Charlotte Clara and you think that...

44:01

the best drivers and he's done

44:03

this in other races, been able

44:05

to kind of grab that car

44:07

by its neck and like overachieve

44:09

in it. And it certainly didn't

44:12

do that in this race. It

44:14

was a disappointing way to start

44:16

the season, you know, when there

44:18

was so much hyper and Ferrari

44:20

going into this season and whether

44:22

they could challenge for the world

44:25

championship and instead, you know, they're

44:27

behind Sauber. Charlotte, I

44:29

have given a 10 at no,

44:32

a 6, a 6. It's a

44:34

6 out of 10 for Charlotte.

44:36

Of course, he had that spin

44:39

which cost him on the flip

44:41

side of that. He had an

44:43

incredible start and was right in

44:46

there. He thought he'd secured P5

44:48

and then of course the weather

44:50

changed. Ferrari made the wrong decision

44:53

with staying out with the fact

44:55

that they didn't think the rain

44:57

was going to last that long

45:00

or would be that heavy. But

45:02

Shah was quicker than Hamilton and

45:05

I think had an okay race

45:07

in when you consider the conditions.

45:09

Of course not great to see

45:12

the spin but I still think

45:14

he deserves a higher rating than

45:16

Hamilton with all things considered. The

45:19

fans gave Shah a six as

45:21

well. Okay here we go. Oscar

45:23

Piastri. Started the race in second,

45:26

finished ninth. I

45:33

have gone for a 7 out of

45:36

10 for Oscopy Astry. I am grading

45:38

him that because of what happened. Of

45:40

course, it was a mistake and it

45:42

cost him massively. A 7 out of

45:44

10 is still not horrible of a

45:47

grade, but I don't think I can

45:49

give him an 8 or a 9

45:51

or a 10. Everything up until that

45:53

point was a 10 out of 10

45:55

from Oscopy Astry. I think that it

45:58

was a brilliant drive from him. He

46:00

put pressure on Lando. of course this

46:02

this team radio thing which I will

46:04

sort of mention now that we kind

46:06

of said in the podcast and it's

46:09

completely my fault that I just misheard

46:11

in the fact that it was really

46:13

early in the morning around the fact

46:15

that I had heard it be that

46:17

they were holding position radios at the

46:20

wrong time to do that to them.

46:22

Yeah, but I also misheard slightly about

46:24

the fact that they were holding position

46:26

until they transitioned to dries. That wasn't

46:28

the case. It was the fact that

46:31

they were essentially holding position whilst they

46:33

got through the back markers. And then

46:35

they were free to race again, but

46:37

then Oscar had made a couple of

46:39

mistakes, which then put him three seconds

46:42

back. So apart from that mistake that

46:44

he made... Lando of course was able

46:46

to scrub off more speed, which I

46:48

am going to put down to Lando

46:51

actually having fantastic car control as well.

46:53

It's not just a case of complete

46:55

luck at that stage. Once you hit

46:57

the grass, which is what Oscar was

46:59

on, then you are a little bit

47:02

of a passenger, but that was because

47:04

he had more speed and I don't

47:06

know. It just, it worked out very...

47:08

a tiny bit different between the two

47:10

drivers but it was enough to make

47:13

a massive difference. So that's why I've

47:15

gone for a seven for Oscar but

47:17

he should be very very proud of

47:19

his performance and I think he's going

47:21

to bounce back massively in China. I've

47:24

gone for an eight out of ten

47:26

for Oscar Piastri. I think this is

47:28

one of the most difficult grades to

47:30

give because essentially one corner different and

47:32

it could have been a win and

47:35

some people will... see that and give

47:37

him maybe a nine or higher and

47:39

think it's a great result. And I

47:41

understand why some people would give him

47:43

a lot lower because essentially he's finished

47:46

ninth in the comfortably the best car

47:48

in the field. But the reason I'm

47:50

giving him an eight is because he

47:52

was really really good at the start

47:55

of the race, drove amazingly well, you

47:57

know, caught up his teammate, put on

47:59

you know, the pressure and it made,

48:01

and he was there, and I watched

48:03

a fan cam from the kind of

48:06

rear-facing shot and he is so

48:08

unfortunate because him

48:10

and Lando go off

48:12

almost identically at the same part

48:14

of the track and he's the one

48:16

that's just kind of, you know,

48:19

had unfortunate luck and spun around,

48:21

and as we said in the

48:23

main podcast, you don't expect to

48:25

get beached in a gravel, sorry,

48:27

in a... in grass, like that

48:30

just doesn't happen in Formula One.

48:32

Normally you could just easily get

48:34

back on. Of course, lost loads

48:36

of time and dropped all the way back.

48:38

But for him to then get back in

48:40

the race, his move on Hamilton. Such

48:42

a shame because, yeah, it's still a

48:45

bad result for him, but I'd be

48:47

amazed if we saw a better move

48:49

all season than that. It was absolutely

48:51

sensational. I forgot the Hamilton move, put

48:54

an eight, put an eight down, I

48:56

can't believe I said seven, that is,

48:58

fair enough, like you know what tummy,

49:01

yeah, the Oscar Piastri Defense Club that

49:03

you've just put up there, I was

49:05

torn between a seven and an eight

49:07

and it was the never give up because,

49:09

yeah, as well, and something that I mentioned

49:12

in... best reactions which again I've kind of

49:14

misplaced in my brain until now was the

49:16

fact that had he not got going and

49:18

had he just given up that would have

49:20

been a safety car or a VSC which

49:23

would have given Maxipit stop and then potentially

49:25

Max would have won the race. But there's

49:27

also two points to the championship and he

49:30

might he might challenge us here you you

49:32

never know McLaren are very quick and based

49:34

on his performance in Australia he will

49:36

challenge for Lando for the championship because

49:38

they look. very close and he is

49:40

a very quick driver so you never

49:42

know that those points could make a

49:45

big difference so despite you know a

49:47

gutting mistake he can hold his head

49:49

up very high after that race I think.

49:51

He certainly can. He certainly can. I'm excited

49:53

to see what Oscar can bring to the

49:55

table because we may well be relying on

49:58

him to have some kind of... of

50:00

championship fights. So a pair of

50:02

eights from us, the fans make

50:04

it a triple eight. Makes sense,

50:07

doesn't it? The fan rate wasn't

50:09

eight. Yeah, cool. I tried to

50:11

be, tried to be fun with

50:14

it. Lando Norris. Started the race

50:16

and first, finished first.

50:18

I've gone for a 10 out of

50:20

10 for Lando Norris. It's the

50:22

best race of his career. I've

50:25

criticised Lando when he's

50:27

done badly. And I've praised

50:29

him. when he's done well, shoot me.

50:31

To the point where people think

50:33

I'm a hater or a fan boy.

50:36

But Lando... That's when you

50:38

do something right, exactly when

50:40

you get both comments. Lando

50:42

must be the only driver

50:44

in the sport who could have his

50:46

teammate spin off and finish

50:48

ninth and he wins the race

50:50

and people are hating on

50:53

him saying it's overrated, he's

50:55

terrible, what a rubbish drive,

50:57

this is outrageous. He

50:59

rightly got the criticise for

51:01

not winning the championship last year

51:03

or at least getting a lot

51:06

closer because he made a lot

51:08

of mistakes That race through everything at

51:10

him when he was going in

51:12

as the championship favourite Yes, he's

51:15

got the best car underneath him But

51:17

the race through everything at him

51:19

and we saw what happened to

51:21

his teammate. Yes, we've mentioned Oscar

51:24

and he's done a fantastic job

51:26

all things considered but Lando did

51:28

keep it on the road. He resisted

51:30

the pressure from Max

51:32

at the end. Yes, Max is in

51:34

an inferior car, but he's also

51:37

the best driver in the

51:39

sport, the best driver in

51:41

those conditions, and it's Max for

51:43

Stepan, who many other people

51:45

wouldn't be able to keep behind.

51:48

It's a brilliant race from Lando

51:50

to resist all that pressure. to

51:52

have so many curveballs, to have

51:54

constant safety cars when he's built

51:57

up a lead, things like that.

52:00

It's a great drive and I can't believe

52:02

you'd give him anything other than a 10

52:04

and I can't believe people are criticizing. It's

52:06

just a case of like people would just

52:08

criticize anything. For the sake of criticizing. For

52:10

the sake of criticizing at that point you

52:13

are just hating for no reason. And it's

52:15

amazing you know people are hating on these

52:17

performances when they're just sat on their sofas

52:19

and they have no idea what it's like

52:21

to drive in those conditions. They just think

52:23

rocket ship car equals easy win and that's

52:26

it. If he does not have easy win

52:28

and wins by a minute, then it's a 4

52:30

out of 10. I've gone for a 10 out

52:32

of 10 as well for Lando Norris because it was

52:34

a sensational drive. It was. The way that he

52:36

managed the pressure, some people of course, throwing

52:38

around the fact that there was team orders, the

52:41

team orders lasted a very small amount of time.

52:43

Of course we were all up in arms when

52:45

we heard it. Oh my God, team orders! I

52:47

can't believe it! But it was Oscar that actually

52:49

made those minor mistakes which made those

52:51

minor mistakes which caused the minor mistakes

52:53

which caused the gap which caused the

52:56

gap. And McLaren were being sensible, on

52:58

reflection of this, McLaren were being sensible

53:00

by the fact that they were backmarkers

53:03

coming up and they don't want

53:05

to have a silly three-wide zonter

53:07

at spar moment, where you're putting

53:09

that one-two at risk. Philando, he

53:11

had safety car restarts to deal

53:13

with, he had strategy, I was even

53:15

impressed by the McLaren team communication, perhaps

53:18

it was a little bit too much

53:20

of it, but... I think a lot

53:22

better and they've learned a lot since

53:24

Russia. I do think that Will Joseph

53:26

at some points doesn't need to be

53:28

talking about the dry tires with Lando

53:30

when it's literally still like spray. And

53:32

even Lando was like just put the

53:34

dry tires away, make like relax. We

53:36

don't need to talk about that right

53:38

now. But Lando, there's a lot of pressure on

53:40

him. I think Abu Dhabi last year

53:42

was a really impressive drive from him.

53:44

And I think this was in a

53:47

completely different... environment a really impressive drive.

53:49

Yes, he made a mistake. Some people

53:51

may consider that lucky that he didn't

53:53

have the same fate as Oscar, but

53:56

he is the lead car. Like that

53:58

is something that I don't think... many

54:00

people are quite processing is that that

54:02

is the first person to hit that point

54:04

to do and exactly he's the first driver

54:06

to hit that point he's the first driver

54:08

to make a decision about when to change

54:10

tires when because the drivers behind are gonna

54:13

throw you know the throw that roll the dice

54:15

they're gonna go I'm gonna pick this lap

54:17

I'm gonna do something different to Lando the

54:19

fact Lando led from start to finish

54:21

of course with a few laps of Max

54:24

leading or whatever but realistically Lando

54:26

is in the lead the whole time That is

54:28

a 10 out of 10 performance.

54:30

It is. I'm taking off your point

54:32

for three different leaders after

54:35

you said that for them

54:37

from the production. No, it

54:40

was still technically, technically three

54:42

leaders. So thank you very

54:44

much. The fans gave Lando Norris

54:47

a 10 and it is well

54:49

deserved. And there we go,

54:51

breathe a sigh of relief because

54:53

we're going into our P1. My

54:55

P1. For the Australian Grand Prix, New

54:57

Colcon Park, no it's not. It's not. Nicko

54:59

did a great job and I'm kind of

55:01

regret giving him a 10 now, but I

55:04

am still locking that in because I don't

55:06

think he's ever going to finish 7th ever

55:08

again in the Salva. My 10 out of 10

55:10

has to be Landenaurus. It does. My P1

55:12

is 100% Lando. For all the reasons I've just

55:14

said. I don't need to go into it any

55:16

more than that. Lando should be... There should be

55:18

a lot of confidence coming a lot

55:21

of confidence coming out of that. It is

55:23

not a rocket ship in those conditions. And

55:25

look, as well, as much as it's, oh, Max

55:27

is keeping up with the McLarens,

55:29

the McLarens and Rabbis are in a

55:32

rocket ship, the top three were so

55:34

clear of the rest of the field

55:36

that I think we should just

55:38

appreciate that Norris for

55:40

Stappin and Piastri were just

55:43

driving brilliantly as well. There

55:45

is part of that involved.

55:47

So anyway, yeah, Land is

55:49

maybe one. and you'll never

55:51

guess which two drives I'm

55:53

deciding between. Yeah, it's definitely

55:55

between those two for me easily

55:57

or maybe album as well actually.

55:59

Okay, yeah, who are you going to go

56:02

for, mate? We're live on the podcast right

56:04

now. I'm going to go for Antonelli, because

56:06

to do that on debut is amazing, even

56:08

though the fans gave them a nine, I'm

56:10

still not over that. A lot of 10 as well,

56:12

a lot of 10's been handed out.

56:14

We're feeling very generous. It's one of

56:16

those races, though, where it deserves a

56:18

10. You're rewarded for basically making it

56:20

to the end and getting a good

56:22

result and getting a good result because

56:25

so many people went off. Yeah, I'm

56:27

going for Antonelli. It was it was one

56:29

of the best debies ever. Lovely stuff. Well

56:31

on Antonelli and well on to all

56:33

of you for making it to the end

56:35

of this driver ratings. I'm sure you've already

56:37

commented the fact that of the reasons why

56:39

Jimmy Antone should get a nine out of

56:41

ten. I look forward to reading those. Thank

56:44

you as always. Remember we can all be

56:46

very nice and calm and polite. If we

56:48

disagree with people, it's because we are humans

56:50

our own right to have our own right

56:52

to have our own opinions. mad isn't it

56:54

Tommy that we all have our own brains?

56:56

What are your final thoughts please sir? I'll

56:59

continue those thoughts of yeah the fact

57:01

that you know we can all have

57:03

an opinion and that's the beauty

57:05

of this the series that we can

57:08

all kind of you know what what makes

57:10

a great race particularly in

57:12

those kind of conditions

57:14

and drivers kind of being

57:16

fortunate and some over-delivering in

57:18

their car and how much

57:21

you put car performance. You

57:23

know, that's the beauty of this

57:25

series and why there'll be

57:27

disagreements, but just, you know, don't

57:30

take it tarp, stay respectful about

57:32

it. And we can all enjoy

57:34

people's opinions. Unless you gave Ansela

57:37

9 and then you washed it.

57:39

It's not that deep. There you

57:42

go. Thank you everybody. You'll see

57:44

you see a lot of love. Take

57:46

care. Bye. Sure time. My chore for

57:48

you, because only the best, only

57:50

the best of listeners. What

57:52

chance to change race and

57:54

change your grade? That's my

57:56

mind. That, but also, my

57:58

chore for you. If you do you

58:01

do really enjoy ratings, okay, is that you pop on YouTube,

58:03

that you you pop on YouTube

58:05

because you're probably listening to this

58:07

probably or something or on YouTube and

58:09

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58:11

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58:13

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58:15

on Spotify and things like that.

58:17

Let us know Let us know, you know

58:19

that you like this series because

58:22

we love to hear it it. then

58:24

it kind of it out the

58:26

people that say that We have

58:28

agendas for every single say the we have

58:30

the grids for every single one of that

58:32

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58:34

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58:36

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58:38

Take care. that and Good leave us a five-track

58:40

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58:45

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