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Hello everybody and
1:04
welcome back to the
1:07
P1 podcast with Matt
1:09
and Tommy. Yes, Tommy has
1:11
returned from celebrating love and he
1:13
decided you know what I'll turn
1:15
up I'll turn up for the
1:17
race I'll turn up to chat
1:19
about the race the bar in
1:22
Grand Prix should be a good
1:24
one on paper and it was
1:26
on paper and in real life very
1:28
good Tommy oh it was very good
1:30
yeah my my reward for for missing
1:32
yesterday was getting to witness
1:34
seeing p20 match just happened
1:36
at one point in the race which
1:39
I didn't think I've seen for a
1:41
very long time if ever and yeah it
1:43
was it was a great race though I'm I
1:45
am just Despite the Steppens
1:47
result, I'm just happy because we had
1:49
the race we were promised a lot of
1:51
the time when the anticipation is so
1:53
high, sometimes it under delivers, but I
1:56
think we just got a great race there.
1:58
There was a point in the race. where Tommy
2:00
had his head in his hands, where
2:02
Max Verstappen came out of the pits
2:04
in 20th, and it was a moment
2:07
I had dreamed of, seeing Tommy's pain,
2:09
but it didn't last last last last
2:11
week. And then five, five laps later,
2:13
you were leaving the room, because Charlotte
2:15
Clav was on her tires, so where? Yeah,
2:17
he got you come up immediately. I certainly
2:20
did, right, we're getting to everything barring Grand
2:22
Prix, but before we do, a quick shout
2:24
out to our wonderful patrons who'll be getting
2:26
extra chat at the end of every single
2:28
race review across the season, where we do
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10 to 15 minutes, I'll answer more questions
2:33
from you guys, and just give you a
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little bit more premium waffle. And there's a
2:37
lot... To talk about from this one, it
2:40
was a brilliant race. I really enjoyed it.
2:42
We didn't have one overtake for the lead,
2:44
but it still was the best race of
2:46
the season in my opinion. Tommy, let's
2:49
start with your most memorable
2:51
moment. My most memorable moment was different
2:53
strategies. And like you say, I think
2:55
on paper, if you just said that
2:58
you get two races, one where the
3:00
winner is just never gets seen at
3:02
any point to the point where. he's
3:04
shown in a mini box winning
3:06
the race but we'll get into
3:09
that later and then the last
3:11
race where we had the top
3:13
three separated by about a second
3:15
and a half for the entire
3:17
race and one of them was
3:20
terrible one of them was great
3:22
you'd probably pick the wrong
3:24
one but no this race was
3:26
so great and the reason was
3:29
because a strategy and I got
3:31
a screenshot on my phone from
3:33
lap 34 and I put this on Twitter
3:35
saying I've prayed for times like these
3:38
because it's so true. The tire
3:40
graphic at this point in the race, 34
3:42
laps into a 57 lap race,
3:44
was medium, hard, hard, hard, hard,
3:46
medium, hard, soft, soft, medium,
3:48
soft, medium, soft, hard, medium,
3:51
soft, hard, medium, soft, hard,
3:53
medium. We need that every single
3:55
weekend because the problem
3:57
with Formula One, particularly...
4:00
don't have, you know, I know
4:02
refuelings long gone, but now we don't
4:04
have refueling. So many, if
4:06
you have a one-stop race, it's
4:08
just always going to be most
4:10
of the time dull because they all
4:12
start on the same tires, they all
4:14
finish on the same tires. Whereas that,
4:17
because we actually got drivers,
4:19
you know, it was still difficult
4:21
to overtake, there was, was tricky,
4:23
but because the cars were all on
4:25
different tires. the race ebbed
4:28
and flowed and you had some
4:30
people quick and then they were a bit
4:32
slower and oh it was just so
4:34
good like that that is what we need
4:36
and it can be achieved if we just
4:38
had some degrading tires basically
4:41
I completely agree I love
4:43
strategy wow choking up right now
4:45
so you love you love strategy
4:47
as well I mean you yourself
4:49
I think we're a white-walled Parelli Tar
4:52
for most of that race so it
4:54
was it was really great 20 I
4:56
love how I was mocking you and
4:58
he literally finished two positions behind Charlotte
5:01
in the end which is absolutely courageous
5:03
but we'll get onto that. Yeah
5:05
the strategies were awesome to see it was
5:07
so hard to keep up. at points because there
5:10
were drivers out there on 20 lap
5:12
old soft tires trying to go really
5:14
long. You had others that had gone
5:16
for aggressive undercuts. Ocon for example I
5:18
think was one of them that managed
5:20
to get himself absolutely in the mix
5:23
and it worked out for him maybe
5:25
saved a little bit by the safety
5:27
car towards the end. But you just
5:29
had this massive variety of races unfolding
5:31
which made for not just intrigue as
5:34
to who's going to be fast at
5:36
what points but overt having an abrasive...
5:38
track surface like Bahrain caused for
5:40
a non-repeate of Japan where everyone
5:42
had similar tire life and no one
5:44
could really get through. Here, you didn't
5:47
know where to look. You had four
5:49
cars going into turn one at points
5:51
and it was just brilliant. I really
5:53
enjoyed it. I can't remember a race I
5:55
enjoyed as much as this when the leader
5:58
had checked out from pretty much lap. One.
6:00
And one by 15 seconds. Exactly.
6:02
We're here saying it was probably
6:04
the race of the year so far. Now I
6:06
know that some people will go, yeah,
6:08
but what about Australia? I prefer a
6:11
race like this every single day over
6:13
an Australia. Australia is in entertaining in
6:15
its own, right. You have the
6:17
craziness, the sliding off and things
6:19
like that. Don't get me wrong. I
6:22
love that. But as a hardcore Formula
6:24
One fan that's watched the sport now
6:26
for goodness gracious like 25 years, maybe
6:29
more. I, and the reason why last
6:31
year my favourite was Silverstone was
6:33
because there was more to it
6:35
than just a bit of craziness. There
6:37
were loads of different drivers changing positions
6:39
and obviously I'm not likening today to
6:42
Silverstone, but I don't know, it just
6:44
felt like a proper race where there
6:46
wasn't any... random showers and things like
6:49
that. It was just drivers fighting for
6:51
their lives out there. And I thoroughly
6:53
enjoyed it. Question from at precision underscore
6:56
Peter, should the mandatory two-stop rule be
6:58
used at every race, not just
7:00
Monaco? Bahrain showed how much
7:02
excitement and potential for different
7:04
strategy there is with multiple
7:06
pit stops. No, no I don't think so.
7:09
We haven't seen how Monaco is going
7:11
to unfold. Bahrain worked because Bahrain was
7:13
a two-stop. not because it was forced
7:16
to be a two-stop. If we have
7:18
and go to tracks that are
7:20
less abrasive, are we going to
7:22
get the same kind of race? I
7:24
don't think so. When we start putting
7:27
in too many, it has to be
7:29
this, it has to do this. I
7:31
think you're kind of forcing it in
7:33
a lot of ways and then it's
7:35
a question of where do we draw
7:37
the line here and keep it a
7:39
legit sport. Don't get me wrong, the
7:42
two stop was great, I want to
7:44
see more two stops, but I would
7:46
like that to be introduced through the,
7:48
through the medium of, pardon the
7:50
pun, because I'm talking about tires,
7:52
but tires degrading, rather than, you
7:54
have to pit twice and that's the
7:57
rule. Yeah, yeah, it's true. I mean,
7:59
this race probably... does help the kind
8:01
of thing that we've discussed in
8:03
a while of potentially having in
8:06
formula one you have to use
8:08
all three compounds of tire
8:10
and then of course that means
8:12
you would have a two-stop but then
8:15
I guess the other argument
8:17
to that is the reason it was
8:19
so good is because you if
8:21
that happened you could still get
8:23
in a situation where everyone goes
8:26
hard at the start. then they
8:28
all switched to medians, then they
8:30
all switched to soft. Whereas the
8:32
reason here was that people went
8:34
medium, medium, and then at the
8:36
end, because there was just enough
8:39
lapse and it was kind of
8:41
borderline, this is what we saw between
8:43
Russell and LeClaire, for example, one
8:45
went for Hard's and it was
8:47
kind of a toss-up between how that
8:50
was going to kind of pay out.
8:52
So mandatory two-stop, we don't need
8:54
to be that extreme, we just
8:56
need... the tires to be a
8:58
bit more unpredictable in terms
9:00
of degradation, but not, and this
9:02
is the problem that we've
9:05
seen in previous races, is not,
9:07
at the moment, they degrade to the
9:09
point where you can just save them
9:11
the whole race, which is when
9:13
you get boring races, because
9:16
everyone just thinks about tires,
9:18
but you almost need them more
9:20
extreme, that we then see this
9:22
kind of moment, because people
9:24
were having to pair... it looked like,
9:26
you know, people would, there was one
9:28
point where we thought people were going
9:31
to do like a three stop, for
9:33
example, because until the safety car, because
9:35
they were, they just kept thinking on
9:38
their feet, really. It was almost like
9:40
a, it felt like a race where we
9:42
had a sprint, where they haven't had
9:44
a lot of practice, where they didn't
9:46
know what to do. And that is
9:48
what we need, is those moments where
9:51
it's those moments where it's not
9:53
just a... strategists and teams thinking on
9:55
their feet going, oh there's a safety
9:57
cut, oh this has changed, oh actually
9:59
the hard... aren't very good so we need
10:01
to do this or we need to do that.
10:03
That is what Formula One needs and
10:05
this race is just complete proof
10:07
that this is the thing that will fix
10:10
everything like all those kind of
10:12
overtaking problems because overtaking
10:14
was still difficult but it
10:16
was just right that you still you know
10:18
could have overtakes and strategy and it
10:20
made it good. It was the perfect
10:22
storm today because Bahrain is a great
10:24
track for racing. It's wide enough for
10:27
drivers to go side by side and
10:29
have these moves. So it's not going
10:31
to work when we go to others
10:33
because the fundamental problem is the cars.
10:35
And if we had this abrasive circuit
10:37
around Japan, would we have had a
10:40
better race? Yes. Would we have a
10:42
two-stop potentially? I think Bahrain is
10:44
definitely one of the best tracks
10:46
on the calendar. Back to your
10:48
point about the sprint, and this
10:50
is what I said to Alex
10:52
after qualifying, was that leading into
10:54
qualifying and this weekend, FP1
10:56
and FP3 were a write-off. Doesn't matter
10:58
that they've had three practice sessions, only
11:01
one of them was anywhere near representative.
11:03
So we've had exactly the same running.
11:05
Yeah, well no, it's not getting rid
11:08
of though, is it? Make them unrepresentative.
11:10
make them to a level where they
11:12
have to use a different set of
11:15
tires but then again it's then it's
11:17
the argument of where do we then
11:19
the team's like well why are we
11:21
running anyway so the fact that they're
11:24
forced into it yeah then then it
11:26
would just get into a very difficult
11:28
discussion I think between every track is
11:30
a night race and then you you
11:32
run yes they all need to change
11:35
yeah yeah or yeah or yeah or
11:37
maybe you have FP1 at midnight at
11:39
midnight And even when it's a daytime
11:41
thing, that's when you... With no lights,
11:43
that would be counted. Yeah, yeah, that
11:45
would be carnage. But yes, it
11:47
certainly did work in Bahrain. And we're
11:50
not surprised, are we? Because we knew
11:52
it was a track that can work
11:54
with these cars and throw in the
11:56
two-stop and it was brilliant to
11:58
watch. That's great. Okay, let's go
12:01
to my most memorable moment,
12:03
and it is the kind of final
12:06
lapse between Russell, Norris and
12:08
LeClaire. I don't know how
12:10
positively I will look back at
12:13
this, because LeClaire came out the
12:15
worst of all of this. When
12:17
I say a memorable, it doesn't
12:19
necessarily need to be a good
12:21
memory. It's a memory all the
12:23
same. Of course, you know, you kind
12:25
of rewind to the safety
12:27
car and the decision. that
12:30
was made by Ferrari. P1
12:32
patron members Zinging
12:34
13, should Ferrari have put on
12:36
the softs at the safety
12:39
car stop given that everybody
12:41
who had run the hards
12:43
were complaining that they were
12:46
bad. Yes, I think Ferrari were
12:48
in a little bit of a
12:50
difficult spot where they... well
12:52
I'd like to think the strategy
12:55
team have said right.
12:57
if there's a safety car up until
12:59
this point we'll probably have to put the
13:01
hards on. Because they had to put either the
13:03
hards or the softs on. Without the safety car
13:05
I think Shah was looking really good for a
13:08
podium finish. He would have gone a little bit
13:10
longer than everybody else and then boxed
13:12
for softs and been pretty quick. May have
13:14
won the race, probably not. But that didn't happen.
13:17
There was a safety car and it came out
13:19
with like 24 laps to go which was on
13:21
the limit. Russell was surprised to see the
13:23
softs go on his car. but he did
13:25
a great job in making that work and
13:28
some drivers behind as well managed that as
13:30
well. So in hindsight, yes, and I
13:32
was disappointed even at the time that
13:34
they decided to go for the hards, which
13:36
was like a safe option, but not even
13:39
really that safe. And we saw LaClaire around
13:41
the final corner as they were restarting the
13:43
action. He almost lost it because the hards
13:45
were so horrendous with the tire warm-up and
13:47
Norris was all over the back of him.
13:50
So it was a conservative approach. one with
13:52
which I wish they had just, I mean,
13:54
what have they got to lose? They're not fighting
13:56
for the constructors already. I mean, they're out,
13:58
they're out, they're out there. shot. Savage. Is
14:00
fourth and fifth what they're kind of
14:03
happy to finish? It just didn't feel
14:05
like the correct decision then and it
14:07
definitely doesn't feel like the correct decision
14:09
now because again Ferrari didn't even look
14:12
bad on their tires. Shah was going
14:14
long. He was doing pretty well as
14:16
he started on the mediums but he
14:19
was still able to keep them what
14:21
looked like in a good window. It
14:23
was the safer option wasn't it to
14:25
go for... the hard tires I guess
14:28
because yeah Russell of course was very
14:30
much like oh that's a that's a
14:32
long way to go on the soft
14:34
tires and in hindsight yes that did
14:37
work out better yeah it'd be easy
14:39
to bring out like the clown memes
14:41
and stuff for Ferrari and say that
14:43
it was a joke but they were
14:46
I think they were unlucky with with
14:48
the timing of the safety car because
14:50
it was looking quite good I'd love
14:52
to have seen an alternate world I'm
14:55
not complaining because of course we saw
14:57
that really good race. where Charlotte wins.
14:59
Yeah, I agree. Well, no, just an
15:02
alternate race where we did see how
15:04
that strategy for Ferrari paid out because
15:06
they would have gone longer on the
15:08
mediums into the race, potentially, and then
15:11
maybe they could have gone pitted quite
15:13
late and then gone aggressive on the
15:15
soft. I don't think they were ever
15:17
beating the McLarens, and of course, Russell
15:20
is also very quick, of course, as
15:22
time of recording, might get disqualified as
15:24
well. So if that all... Sorry, not
15:26
just qualified. A penalty. A penalty. A
15:29
penalty. Is your good surprise for the
15:31
weekend? Why are you trying to channel
15:33
a disqualification? A penalty. You know, you
15:36
still might get the penalty. So four,
15:38
five, I know it's disappointing based on
15:40
where they were, but that is kind
15:42
of where for AR, sadly, with their
15:45
car. So it's not the end of
15:47
the end of the world. Not the
15:49
end of the world, no, definitely not
15:51
worthy of clown memes, but yeah, just
15:54
a decision that could have gone one
15:56
way or another, but it would have
15:58
been interesting to see firstly, you know,
16:00
the world where the safety card didn't
16:03
come out at all, and also one
16:05
where they went on soft. But we
16:07
will move on to imperator QG. Does
16:09
Lando need to be more aggressive? with
16:12
his overtakes to win this championship. It's
16:14
hard to say whether it's aggression or
16:16
if it's just making the right decisions.
16:19
There were a lot of faints to
16:21
the inside but never going. There were,
16:23
I would say he was aggressive enough
16:25
because he locked up at times and
16:28
misjudged. So the aggression was there, but
16:30
the amount of times we saw that.
16:32
kind of look to the inside but
16:34
it never happened. That is the rule
16:37
101. That's the first thing you learn
16:39
is down the inside into a hairpin
16:41
is probably going to be the move
16:43
for you. Maybe there just wasn't the
16:46
confidence underbreaking for Lando that perhaps other
16:48
drivers have or just in that McLaren,
16:50
whatever it might be. I don't think
16:53
he's not aggressive enough, but he... I
16:55
would say that his racecraft when it
16:57
comes to making those moves... is
17:00
something he needs to improve on
17:02
if he does want to win
17:04
this championship, especially if he's going
17:06
to have these moments in qualifying
17:08
where he is fifth, sixth on
17:10
the grid, and has to get
17:13
through the field in order to
17:15
potentially fight Oscar. He was up
17:17
to third on lap one. Of
17:19
course, he had that five-second penalty,
17:21
but you're wondering, okay, maybe it's
17:23
on, and you put Max for
17:25
stapping in that scenario in that
17:27
car. He's through the second in
17:30
a matter of laps and he's
17:32
chasing down his teammate for the
17:34
win. I have no doubt in
17:36
my mind that that would be
17:38
it. So Lando does need to
17:40
improve his racecraft when it comes
17:42
to overtaken in my opinion. He
17:44
does. I got kind of dejar
17:47
vu from the race in Austin
17:49
actually watching Lando try and pass
17:51
Charlen thinking how has he not
17:53
passed him yet because he's in
17:55
a much quicker car. you know,
17:57
a car that's winning the race
17:59
by 16 seconds, and he needs
18:01
to be making those moves. I
18:04
feel like you could argue that
18:06
to win a championship, you know,
18:08
this is something we've kind of
18:10
praised Lewis Hamilton for, is to
18:12
not do anything silly, don't take
18:14
your front wing off, sometimes that
18:16
kind of approach is just about
18:18
picking up points in the consistency
18:21
over a 24 race championship, but
18:23
at the same time, does Lando
18:25
doesn't have that advantage to maybe
18:27
be like that? this early on
18:29
because Oscar despite a nightmare race
18:31
in Australia that we thought that's
18:33
going to be really costly for
18:35
the world championship and it's a
18:38
massive point swing in Lando's favour.
18:40
Oscar's now only three points behind
18:42
him in the championship and Lando
18:44
can't just be picking up points.
18:46
I mean it was a messy
18:48
messy P3 and he could even
18:50
end up being, it could still
18:52
end up being a P2. if
18:55
George does get a penalty. But
18:57
he just didn't look very convincing.
18:59
You know, he made that amazing
19:01
start that we were all going,
19:03
oh finally Lando's got a good
19:05
start, but then he's messed up
19:07
the pit box. Obviously he had
19:09
a disaster yesterday, grid box, grid
19:12
box, I always say, grid box,
19:14
grid box, that he's had the
19:16
issue with. And then in the
19:18
race, you know, a few lockups,
19:20
kind of getting... I think Charles's
19:22
move was aggressive but he kind
19:24
of got bullied out the way
19:26
obviously couldn't pass George which I
19:29
think other drivers may have been
19:31
a bit more ruthless and made
19:33
it stick. So it's a weird
19:35
thing to say when Lando started
19:37
the year with a first, second,
19:39
second, third to think that it's
19:41
kind of a bit a bit
19:43
disappointing but I think there are
19:46
a bit kind of worrying signs
19:48
there that there so far that
19:50
he does need to kind of...
19:52
be a bit more ruthless and
19:54
be more aggressive because he can't
19:56
play that kind of safe approach
19:58
for a whole season. if Piastri
20:00
is driving the way he is,
20:03
the leads already eroding massively. Yep,
20:05
the step up from Oscar this
20:07
year has been pretty awesome. Of
20:09
course that mistake in Australia costing
20:11
him dearly. Without that he would
20:13
be... handsomely in the lead of
20:15
this championship but he has also
20:17
got mistakes in him and that's
20:20
what's gonna make this championship very
20:22
interesting to watch as it unfolds
20:24
sadly we still didn't get to
20:26
see an Oscar Lando fight out
20:28
on track and I would have
20:30
loved to have seen that around
20:32
Bahrain. Yeah we need to see
20:34
that at some point don't we?
20:37
Yeah we'll have to wait another
20:39
eight races for the next track
20:41
that we can overtake on no
20:43
kidding, I'm kidding, Sally's coming up
20:45
so that's that should be fingers
20:47
crossed a good one a good
20:49
one as well. With a solid
20:51
weekend like that, does Oscar look
20:54
more like the favourite this year?
20:56
Oh, it's... I'm trying not to
20:58
be too knee-jerk here because we
21:00
do love doing that as Formula
21:02
One fans. Oscar is on a
21:04
great trajectory. He's shown from the
21:06
get-go that he is right there
21:08
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without the ads. It's
27:49
not a slam dunk. I saw a
27:52
lot. I saw basically just to go
27:54
on this. I saw some people going
27:56
well if Lando got his penalty deemed
27:58
so quickly Why is this one taking
28:00
so long? But Lando, you can literally
28:03
see it. It is or it isn't.
28:05
Whereas this, it does need investigating, so
28:07
I don't want to be too harsh
28:09
on the stewards here because it needs
28:12
looking at properly rather than making a
28:14
knee-jerk reaction. It's weird though, isn't it?
28:16
Because it depends how you look at
28:18
it. I guess it depends. We don't
28:20
know the evidence, do we? So, you
28:23
know, exactly. Yeah, exactly. And I think
28:25
that is the case is that his
28:27
DRS did open. Did open. when it
28:29
shouldn't have, and they're now investigating why
28:31
that happened and whether he needs a
28:34
penalty. Surely, and you know, this is
28:36
no disrespect to George, but in every
28:38
other realm of the F1, FIA rulebook,
28:40
it's, well, if your card doesn't pass
28:43
all of these tests, whether it's floor
28:45
height, whatever, then you get penalty or
28:47
disqualification. Why is this any different if
28:49
they've had an electrical fault in their
28:51
car? It's still a fault. The DRS
28:54
opens when it's not supposed to be.
28:56
From where I sit, that should just
28:58
be a, well your DRS opened and
29:00
it wasn't in a DRS zone, that's
29:02
a five-second penalty, or whatever it might
29:05
be. I don't know what circumstances, other
29:07
than Mercedes, we had a fault with
29:09
our car, for them to go on.
29:11
You don't worry about it. Yeah, because
29:14
if you... say that there's been so
29:16
many incidents where you can't really say
29:18
oh if someone say I don't know
29:20
you can have a fault with your
29:22
car when you plough into the side
29:25
of someone or something I don't know
29:27
that there's it is kind of a
29:29
black and white thing so yeah if
29:31
that is the case and they have
29:34
seen that there is a DRS it's
29:36
been opened outside the zone or whatever
29:38
or not when he's meant to. Yeah
29:40
surely usually that is slender. unless there's
29:42
a reason that they want to... there's
29:45
reason to believe that there's actually nothing
29:47
to do with this car and it's
29:49
something... do with how his car is
29:51
communicating with some DRS sensor or maybe
29:53
that. I've never seen that as well
29:56
because that was such a weird thing
29:58
to happen. Yeah, the transponder was like,
30:00
see a layer, but his car just
30:02
seemed like he was in all sorts
30:05
of problems. You know, he made a
30:07
joke that, well, as long as the
30:09
steering wheel doesn't fall off because he
30:11
even said at one point that he
30:13
was potentially going to lose, you know,
30:16
all his information. We saw what was
30:18
happening with the timing tower, which which
30:20
we'll get into of him like flopping
30:22
and changing all over the place. And
30:24
then of course all the cars around
30:27
him because he had a break by
30:29
wire failure where his brakes were going
30:31
wrong and then short and it was
30:33
constantly changing. I mean he did an
30:36
incredible job to still finish second. He
30:38
did. And it was a great drive
30:40
from Georgia. It would be a real
30:42
shame if he did end up with
30:44
the penalty. Of course you're saying that
30:47
so you can cash in on a
30:49
good surprise. I see straight through that.
30:51
Next question. Cotai Ryu. Genuine question. What
30:53
is going on with the F1 graphics.
30:55
Everything seems to go wrong. Every race.
30:58
Every race. It's... I
31:00
mean, you would think that
31:02
is like absolutely priority. Absolute
31:05
priority that the graphics work.
31:07
I don't know whether they've
31:09
changed the programming behind it
31:12
or whatever it might be,
31:14
but it's not been a
31:16
great start to the year
31:18
for F1 graphics and just
31:21
generally TV direction as well
31:23
I think has been poor
31:25
at times, especially in this
31:28
race. Now, I was
31:30
quite aggrieved. I went over on Twitter
31:32
and I was like, why have they
31:34
got rid of the live timing full
31:37
stop just because of George Russell's transponder
31:39
issues? Because every other driver's transponder was
31:41
working. I was literally logged into multi-viewer
31:44
and looking at the live timing there.
31:46
It's not as if everything went down
31:48
and it didn't work. In my opinion,
31:51
what they've seen is, oh my God,
31:53
Russell's going up and down the leaderboardable,
31:55
this looks terrible, let's have a clean
31:58
feed of just the cars going around.
32:00
All former. one fans around the world
32:02
do not care if Russell's jumping up
32:05
and down a little bit as long
32:07
as we can see the other gaps.
32:09
We are not in 1990 where we
32:12
need to have gap intervals each lap
32:14
and have a graphic come up. That's
32:16
old news boy. No no I want
32:19
it now and it also it generally
32:21
every time it happens I realize just
32:23
how much I stare at those times
32:26
all the time. It is constant rain
32:28
scratching. Yeah, it feels like a practice
32:30
session. So it's not good enough. I'll
32:33
be completely enough to leave Frank with
32:35
that and not your dog. Because it
32:37
is a paramount part of watching Formula
32:39
One is that those things work. It's
32:42
not the same with football or tennis
32:44
or whatever. You can see what's going
32:46
on. You see the whole picture there
32:49
and then. That leaderboard or graphic or
32:51
whatever it might be. is part of
32:53
the viewing experience. It tells you everything
32:56
that's going on on the track because
32:58
you can't, like you say, you can't
33:00
see every driver. So you need to
33:03
know, like, oh, that person's gained a
33:05
bit. And for them to basically get
33:07
rid of the whole thing, just because
33:10
they're maybe embarrassed that it's a bit
33:12
of a meme that Russell's bouncing up
33:14
and down the timing tower, is not...
33:17
not the right way to go in
33:19
my opinion. And then they tried to
33:21
fix it and broke the whole thing
33:24
and then they got it back up.
33:26
Russell was in second and none of
33:28
the live timings were updating properly. Yeah
33:31
and it was really weird because even
33:33
at the end when Max obviously made
33:35
his move and we'll get onto the
33:38
TV direction missing that later but Max
33:40
made his move and obviously that didn't
33:42
update until pretty much as they were
33:45
crossing the line which showed that the
33:47
whole thing was just completely broken at
33:49
this point and yeah for... You can't
33:52
predict that George is going to have
33:54
those issues, but it's not good enough
33:56
from Formula One, this multi-billion dollar sport
33:58
and all the money they're making and
34:01
how much they're charging fans and everything
34:03
to have that experience where they can't
34:05
basically put on, especially because we're having
34:08
such a good race. as well. It's
34:10
not to the point where I'm like,
34:12
oh my God, it's completely ruined the
34:15
race, but it was very annoying because
34:17
at the end, we're having such a
34:19
good race of Soviet strategy going on.
34:22
There are people kind of, and it
34:24
does take away from the experience not
34:26
to see that because you're so used
34:29
to it now and it is such
34:31
a big part of Formula One. We've
34:33
evolved so much more than just watching
34:36
the cars on the track. We need
34:38
to know this information and that is
34:40
part of the... the grand Prix and
34:43
part of what makes it enjoyable. So
34:45
yeah, a shocker from F1, from the
34:47
graphics, and then, you know, even worse
34:50
was the TV direction, I think. It
34:52
certainly was. I think that, you know,
34:54
there were moments that just really peed
34:57
us off. Question, got to keep walking.
34:59
Can we start a petition to have
35:01
Matt and Tommy take over TV direction?
35:04
Coverage has been absolutely terrible this year.
35:06
Bahrain was the worst yet. There was
35:08
a moment, I think Tommy you shrieked,
35:10
have some wheel knowledge, was when it
35:13
was LeClaren Norris, the switchback of dreams
35:15
was happening I think for Norris, out
35:17
of term one, and we were focusing
35:20
on Hamilton passing whoever it might have
35:22
been at that point, and we could
35:24
see the three tenths, two tenths, two
35:27
tenths, and then we cut when they're
35:29
side by side. Now we didn't miss
35:31
it completely. But then we had an
35:34
on board of LeClaire, I believe it
35:36
was. So then we didn't know where
35:38
Norris was at the time. So again,
35:41
it's like a, we need to see
35:43
the pick, we don't get many overtakes,
35:45
okay, as Formula One fans, we don't
35:48
get a lot. We've had some tough
35:50
couple of races, and we finally get
35:52
overtakes, we need to see them, okay?
35:55
If in doubt, go to the off
35:57
board. Just show us a lovely little,
35:59
no, at the, at the, whatever it,
36:02
whatever it might be, whatever it might
36:04
be. Why are we doing that? It
36:06
just, it wasn't good enough. And it's,
36:09
it's disappointing, isn't it? We go back
36:11
to the whole, how much... much money
36:13
does this sport make? Can we please
36:16
just, I mean we've been talking about
36:18
the TV direction for so many years.
36:20
So many years. And there are periods
36:23
of time where it's decent, but then
36:25
you watch a race like Bahrain and
36:27
go, have they got the interns in?
36:29
Like why is it such a marked
36:32
difference to what we've seen in previous
36:34
races? I'm sick to death of actually
36:36
just constantly having this conversation on this
36:39
this podcast. Yeah, but you're going to
36:41
pop off anyway. I'm going to pop
36:43
off anyway because it's a joke. Everybody
36:46
get your popcorn, sit back, relax. Tom
36:48
Bellion was about to pop off. How
36:50
many times we have to keep saying
36:53
just allow someone that understands Formula One
36:55
racing to control the TV direction? Because
36:57
like you say, we were watching that.
37:00
Of course they're showing Hamilton's move, but...
37:02
LeClieur versus Norris was literally for the
37:04
podium positions. So that has to take
37:07
priority because it's the podium in the
37:09
higher positions and we're getting that amazing
37:11
battle and I understand the frustration and
37:14
the difficulty of Formula One when you
37:16
are getting overtakes that are happening while
37:18
overtakes happening and you're trying to capture
37:21
everything. But we've gone from the last
37:23
race where they were actually showing Charlotte
37:25
Close Pittstock during the only moment of
37:28
the entire race. where you could literally
37:30
see, I don't go back to Japan,
37:32
but you could actually see them leave
37:35
the pit so you knew they were
37:37
going to be side by side, so
37:39
anyone with any knowledge would go stick
37:41
on that camera because they're going outside
37:44
by side. And equally with this one,
37:46
you saw LeCler and Norris go into
37:48
the corner, the wet, it just needs
37:51
someone that knows how cars are positioned
37:53
and how they race and have that
37:55
formula one knowledge to know that Lecler,
37:58
sorry, is now going to get an
38:00
amazing run down that straight, down that
38:02
straight, so show it. So show it.
38:05
as well on Gazi on the final
38:07
lap. I put something about the fact
38:09
that they showed Oscar Piestri in a
38:12
mini box and people were kind of,
38:14
some people were going, oh but you
38:16
know... So we've complained for years that
38:19
they don't show their leaders. Norris and
38:21
Russell were never going to change at
38:23
that point. You could have shown them
38:26
in the mini box, and I've respected
38:28
it. But when do you ever see
38:30
an overtaken to the final corner at
38:33
Bahrain? Never. So it's just respectful to
38:35
show the winner of the race and
38:37
then show the mini box. So you
38:40
keep on, so just in case something
38:42
absolutely crazy, but it was never going
38:44
to happen. And there's just so many
38:47
moments like that where you just feel
38:49
like the person in charge is not
38:51
having the same understanding as the fans
38:54
at home that now Max is in
38:56
two tenths here. He's going to have
38:58
a run at Gazley into that corner
39:00
which he's already tried once. Why aren't
39:03
you cutting to it? Why aren't we
39:05
seeing them in a mini box? All
39:07
these moments and it's just so frustrating
39:10
to watch. I genuinely thought it was
39:12
borderline disrespectful to not show Oscar Piastri
39:14
coming over the line with the big
39:17
box. It made absolutely no sense. That
39:19
should. I think in any situation, apart
39:21
from if it's a championship fight and
39:24
their fifth and sixth on the final
39:26
lap in Abu Dhabi and they're going
39:28
for the world title, fine, then we
39:31
put them in the mini box, someone
39:33
else wins, congratulations. Any other scenario, you
39:35
have the winner in the main feed
39:38
and then a small box if you
39:40
want to show something. Absolutely every time.
39:42
I don't care what anyone says about
39:45
that because Oscar has not been shown
39:47
the entire race because he's dominated. He
39:49
deserves that moment where everybody looks at
39:52
him coming over the line to celebrate.
39:54
I don't feel any differently apart from
39:56
that about that particular situation. So why
39:59
they decided that I'm not sure. And
40:01
that's if they were side by side
40:03
which they never were going to be.
40:06
No, because you can't overtake overtaker that.
40:08
point of the track and that again
40:10
comes to someone with that knows formula
40:13
one and with a bit of wheel
40:15
knowledge that is never on at that
40:17
part of the track. Exactly. Wow goodness
40:19
gracious me look at us we have
40:22
we've we've lost it Tommy we've absolutely
40:24
lost our marbles well let's speak about
40:26
maybe your marbles being lost. P1 patron
40:29
member, Thimmer, is it now officially championship
40:31
back off for Vstappen? Tell me why
40:33
don't you give us your thoughts? Come
40:36
on. How are we feeling? There's a
40:38
Max fan right now. I mean, you
40:40
salvaged a P6 somehow? Nice safety car
40:43
merchant. How are we feeling? Very very
40:45
conflicted because when I saw that... Matt
40:47
says up in P20 graphic. I think
40:50
we said didn't we on the watch
40:52
long. He's not scoring a point here.
40:54
So the context was when he came
40:57
out the pits. In P20. And he
40:59
was literally 20th behind Bartletto. Yeah. He'd
41:01
had a slow stop because the red
41:04
ball light didn't work. The cars terrible
41:06
and not working. He's been put on
41:08
a terrible strategy with the hard tires
41:11
and then they didn't even put the
41:13
tire on properly when he changed. And
41:15
I was here thinking. Is this one?
41:18
Yeah, yeah, how has it got this
41:20
bad? This is the team that were
41:22
dominating Formula One this time last year
41:25
and they're making errors, they're making strategy
41:27
errors, they're making pit stop errors, the
41:29
car is slow, match the step in
41:31
his 20th and last. Would you take
41:34
would you take a P8 at that
41:36
point? I just said absolutely. So P6.
41:38
how far how far Red Bull have
41:41
fallen that you'd take a P6 but
41:43
it is true in that situation and
41:45
I watched that race thinking my god
41:48
it is it really is going to
41:50
be a McLaren P2 but it is
41:52
funny that literally last literally last week
41:55
we were talking about Max is there
41:57
isn't he and he is driving an
41:59
absolute S box at the moment that
42:02
and he's eight points behind in the
42:04
championship. He just needs to hang on
42:06
until maybe that... chain comes in in
42:09
round nine to give him an opportunity
42:11
because seven points that's right eight points
42:13
isn't a lot really at this stage
42:16
of the season but it's not looking
42:18
good for Max at all is it
42:20
it's not looking good brove not at
42:23
all I think that if Bahrain is
42:25
a unique track compared to the first
42:27
three that we've had as for the
42:30
mention you know things we've mentioned the
42:32
tires and everything else it was a
42:34
different kettle of fish to the first
42:37
three He'll have to hope that going
42:39
into Saudi, a different track once again,
42:41
very high speed, that perhaps he won't
42:44
be as bad as Bahrain, and it'll
42:46
just be a one-off. I don't think
42:48
you can really ring the alarm bells
42:50
just yet. The fact that Max has
42:53
finished 6th is utterly ridiculous. Even that,
42:55
I think, is a brilliant drive from
42:57
him. He was on the back foot
43:00
for literally, as you mentioned, every part
43:02
of his race is going wrong. And
43:04
I can already here. I know you
43:07
jigsawite about safety card. merchand stuff but
43:09
like it's funny how all these drivers
43:11
that have these moments are always lucky
43:14
there's always a reason but like he's
43:16
finished sixth again and and all these
43:18
these people that said his I think
43:21
in the last race were going the
43:23
Red Bull isn't that bad we saw
43:25
how bad that car was the first
43:28
race of the season he's been flattered
43:30
by essentially wet weather and we all
43:32
know he's the best driver in the
43:35
wet to finish almost within a tent
43:37
of the win and then Suzuki he's
43:39
put in an absolute godly qualifying lap
43:42
a circuit you can't overtake so he's
43:44
been able to manage to stay ahead
43:46
of the McLarens. He should not be
43:49
where he is in the championship at
43:51
all with that car but he is
43:53
so you can't write him off yet
43:56
but he's 35 seconds off the lead
43:58
when there was a safety car and
44:00
he was battling what felt like Ok
44:02
on the entire... higher rates. Which is
44:05
not something you expected coming to the
44:07
bar rate. Exactly. Ocon in a house.
44:09
So yeah, he's still in the fight,
44:12
but I am. so much less confident
44:14
now about him challenging for this championship
44:16
than I was and I know it's
44:19
only more race but this is more
44:21
love it look at this you are
44:23
you are showing your your for you
44:26
wouldn't you wouldn't last a week if
44:28
you're a Ferrari fan you really wouldn't
44:30
but you know boo-hoo Tommy you've got
44:33
a bad car now deal with it
44:35
that's that oh god I'm drinking it
44:37
in right now welcome to the pain
44:40
club we can both just enjoy McLaren
44:42
dominance dominance this year at least I
44:44
don't have to you know speak to
44:47
you smugly every single weekend about Max
44:49
winning by 30 seconds and we can
44:51
both be in the pain boat. Okay
44:54
let's well I think I kind of
44:56
echo what you say in terms of
44:58
of Max it's it's hard to write
45:01
him off at this point I still
45:03
don't think we should write him off
45:05
but let's see let's wait till after
45:08
Saudi at the very least. Next question
45:10
people on Patriot member wilderness Ted is
45:12
Yuki the answer to Redball's second driver
45:15
problem? Yuki had an all right race
45:17
you know. I don't think he had
45:19
quite the same amount of painful moments
45:21
that Max did and Yuki was still
45:24
definitely slower than Max let's not let's
45:26
not be you know too crazy about
45:28
this but he scored points and I
45:31
am totally fine with that that's kind
45:33
I think I expected slightly faster Yuki's
45:35
noted but then again if you look
45:38
comparatively to where Max was it's probably
45:40
what can be considered a decent performance
45:42
from from Yuki so Where did he
45:45
finish in the end? P9? P9. 45
45:47
seconds off. He was 10 seconds behind
45:49
Max at the end there. So yeah,
45:52
it was good enough, I would say,
45:54
for Yuki, getting his first points for
45:56
Red Ball, finishing ahead of both RBs
45:59
that had shockers, to be honest with
46:01
you. So I don't know if he's
46:03
the answer yet, but he's certainly... He's
46:06
figuring out the question if that makes
46:08
any sense. I actually think he's kind
46:10
of embarrassed Red Bull a little bit
46:13
here that they didn't put him in
46:15
the first place because with absolutely no
46:17
testing and yet he's gone to a
46:20
track that he knows a bit better
46:22
and had the practice time. But Liam
46:24
Lawson led us to believe that that
46:27
car was undriveable and you couldn't even
46:29
score a point, you couldn't even... not
46:31
finished last. Basically, yeah, yeah, genuinely. And
46:33
Yuki Snowden has finished, you know, 10
46:36
seconds off Max, he scored points, had
46:38
a bit of a messy racing moments
46:40
where maybe Red Bull's kind of decision
46:43
not to put him in. I was
46:45
a little bit wincing sometimes when he
46:47
was sticking his nose and going, Yuki,
46:50
don't, don't take your front wing off.
46:52
This is, this is what Red Bull
46:54
worried about promoting you in the first
46:57
place. But he has finished in a
46:59
good. in a good position. And Lawson's
47:01
form, which is why we're on the
47:04
subject, is woeful. I mean, the fact
47:06
that he's gone back into the RB
47:08
that a lot of people thought was
47:11
quicker, and people, quicker than the second
47:13
Red Bull, whatever you think of, that
47:15
seat, and cursed or whatever. People expected
47:18
Lawson to be potentially even beating Sonoda,
47:20
and Lawson's having an absolute shocker, he
47:22
got two penalties for crashing into people,
47:25
he's got no pace. you know, nowhere,
47:27
just an absolutely awful race from him.
47:29
And Yuki's done a good job, which
47:32
shows Red Bull, why did you not
47:34
stick him in in the first place?
47:36
Because he has certainly not done that
47:39
bad at all. Still have no idea
47:41
why they chose Lawson over Sonoda. There
47:43
was nothing really to go off that...
47:46
They decided to not go for the
47:48
driver with money from the engine, more
47:50
experience, and more fans. And they went...
47:52
No, we'll just... No, we'll just... No,
47:55
we'll just... No, we'll just... No, we'll
47:57
just... No, we'll just... Here we go.
47:59
Oh no, we'll get rid of the
48:02
underdog very quickly. Yeah, just yeah, for
48:04
driver experts, Horner and Marco, they don't
48:06
make a lot, they do make a
48:09
lot of crap decisions, don't they? Oh,
48:11
Tommy, that was a bit of naughty
48:13
word for the podcast. Goodness gracious me.
48:16
Usually you see that on Twitch. Yeah,
48:18
I think what you're saying is completely
48:20
correct. Yuki was the the the the
48:23
the decision when it's the two drivers
48:25
of Lawson and sonoda. whether he's the
48:27
answer to their problems which is kind
48:30
of what I was more leaning towards.
48:32
It depends what the answer to the
48:34
problems in because if Max disappears at
48:37
the next race they're absolutely screwed because
48:39
they've got a car built around like
48:41
you know made for Max Estappan and
48:44
he's not driving from next year and
48:46
they don't have a star driver. So
48:48
at the moment he's a good he's
48:51
in a good spot and they're doing
48:53
what he should be doing. So I'm
48:55
impressed. Yeah a good step up from
48:58
UKIP this weekend this weekend. Okay, let's
49:00
head to our predictions. Just before we
49:02
do, oh, oh, what do you want
49:04
to say to me? Oh, it's not
49:07
actually, so it's not actually George Russell,
49:09
it's a lot less exciting, but just
49:11
a weird one to mention, is that
49:14
Nika Holkenberg is actually set to be
49:16
disqualified because of excessive skidware, which I
49:18
know it's only 13th, but it's still
49:21
an interesting point that it's going to
49:23
be another disqualification, which of course happened
49:25
to the Ferraris. And yeah, is that
49:28
why you brought it up? Because it
49:30
changes nothing about the points, mate. It
49:32
doesn't, but... Do you remember that time
49:35
back in China? Time the Ferrari got
49:37
disqualified. Yeah. But no, it's unusual that
49:39
we're kind of seeing this happen again.
49:42
Unusual that it happened again. Unusual that
49:44
it shows how low these cars have
49:46
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we now head to predictions unless Tommy
52:54
wants to add something else. No, just
52:56
that I really wish they'd made the
52:59
Russell decision by now because this could
53:01
all change. It's fine. Well, just, you
53:03
just wait a second. We post the
53:05
graphic, don't we? As well. Yeah, but
53:08
don't worry, don't worry, because I've got
53:10
something to tell you before, you know,
53:12
when we're going into that. So, you
53:15
know, just relax, just take a deep
53:17
breath. I believe he was very good
53:19
surprising, which is not good English, but
53:22
it's definitely a point to me. Thank
53:24
you very much. Yeah, I think Yiki
53:26
Sinoda, definitely a good surprise. I think
53:29
we said it during our watch along,
53:31
didn't we, that when was the last
53:33
time you could look at the timing
53:36
tower and see two red bulls in
53:38
the same kind of vision? Yeah, never.
53:40
Feels like ages. So my good surprise.
53:42
was George Russell. And this is where
53:45
I'm going to come in Tommy, because
53:47
I'm going to give you a point
53:49
no matter what. It doesn't matter if
53:52
George gets a five-second penalty. If he
53:54
gets disqualified, you can get rid of
53:56
your point. That's straight in the bin.
53:59
But if it's a five-second penalty, he'll
54:01
still finish fourth. Charlotte Clay on the
54:03
podium. That's still a W for me.
54:06
I think George had a phenomenal drive
54:08
this weekend, so I'm not going to
54:10
dispute it. And you of course offered
54:12
me two points as well, so thank
54:15
you very much. Wait, hold on a
54:17
second. The regret. The regret. The regret.
54:19
The regret. Your face immediately. You're like,
54:22
oh no, actually. No, let me think
54:24
about this. Oh my God, I completely
54:26
forgot about that. Yeah it was the
54:29
double pointer because I had to change
54:31
it from speaking. So I deserve. I'm
54:33
going to change it. I'm going to
54:36
change my offer. Okay. So if he
54:38
stays in second penalty, you get one
54:40
point. Yeah, simple. Same plus. Same plus.
54:42
Oh God, why did I? Oh no.
54:45
Okay, let's go to a big flop.
54:47
I went for Charlotte Claire. That didn't
54:49
kind of work sadly. So I don't
54:52
get a point and he didn't win.
54:54
So no one one one for big
54:56
flopop, sadly. Sadly. And I went for
54:59
Alex Alvin, which he got knocked out.
55:01
Well, he didn't, he did and didn't
55:03
get knocked out in Q1 and had
55:06
his worst race of the season. Oh,
55:08
oh, P12. So, is that a flop?
55:10
That's a flop. He's finished, he finished
55:13
fifth, seventh, ninth in the first few
55:15
races. Is that a sizable flop? Mmm.
55:17
That's very interesting. It's on the fence,
55:19
isn't it? It seems like Michael Masseying,
55:22
this is running a TBC, shall we?
55:24
TBC, and we'll see what people say
55:26
in the comments, just see you're aware
55:29
Alex, album, finished 12th, and his teammate
55:31
didn't finish, so realistically beat signs by
55:33
eight positions. So, you know, you used
55:36
that. However you like. It's too tense
55:38
off, science, so, yeah. It's inferior driver
55:40
this weekend. Al Bonn finished just behind
55:43
a Mercedes so that is a phenomenal
55:45
drive from him. Pole position! I went
55:47
for Lando Norris and I did not
55:49
get a point. And I went for
55:52
the other one, Oscar Piastri. Well done,
55:54
congratulations. The 50-50 McLaren gamble this time.
55:56
This is actually concerning me, I haven't
55:59
thought about this. So my... top three
56:01
were Norris Piaestri Russell which are all
56:03
wrong which is ridiculous yeah I would love
56:06
to know how many times I
56:08
have gone for a Norris win
56:10
and it's actually come in because
56:12
I think it's zero I cannot
56:14
remember time you've predicted Norris to
56:16
win in either the podcast all
56:18
the graphic as a shocker I
56:20
genuinely feel like that's true if
56:22
I genuinely think we could clip
56:24
back and it always seems to be
56:27
the case God I'm so sorry Lando
56:29
fans I really am I don't
56:31
mean it I genuinely think he's
56:33
gonna win the race yeah well
56:35
he was favorite yeah I went
56:38
for Russell Pastry Norris and so
56:40
of all those to be right it was
56:42
a Norris in P3 which was a which
56:44
might change and just on just
56:47
on that actually yeah so that
56:49
that might change we might both
56:51
end up with with zero of
56:53
course Just like the FIA will
56:55
put a graphic out on our social
56:57
media with the updated scores. I mean,
57:00
we've shown a bit of word like
57:02
that, we've got the top three, just
57:04
in the wrong order. Indeed. So, but
57:06
not good enough will in order
57:09
to score any points, or at
57:11
least for me. Okay, let's go
57:13
to the family top three. It's
57:15
currently two, one to the Bellinghams.
57:17
Really, really happy about that. My
57:19
mother went for third place, Piastri,
57:22
and that is wrong. My dad
57:24
went for P3 George Russell, which is
57:26
wrong as of recording. We'll
57:28
always be wrong. We'll always
57:30
be wrong. You never know.
57:32
He got a one-place grid
57:34
penalty. He loves an obscure
57:36
penalty, doesn't he Russell? In
57:38
second place, for stappen, my
57:40
mom went for, goodness gracious
57:43
me. Does she want to like lock
57:45
in with some wheel knowledge? P2.
57:47
Land in Oris. Land in Oris.
57:49
My dad went for. So, wrong. And
57:51
my dad went for Piastri, which is
57:53
correct. And it was looking like that was
57:55
going to be... It could have almost got
57:57
the top three, I think, yeah. I was
57:59
scared. for not getting a three
58:01
pointer because we were one kind
58:03
of Norris dive bomb away from
58:06
potentially that happening but it's another
58:08
point for the Bellingham so Thoree
58:10
won Oh deary me we're gonna
58:12
have the Michael Massey the Gallagher's
58:14
versus Bellingham's championship as well aren't
58:17
we because you are steaming ahead
58:19
at one crazy prediction I went
58:21
for Carlos signs best of the
58:23
rest which was absolutely on like
58:25
that was yeah it was actually
58:27
that he was fighting ghazley for
58:30
P5 I think it was I
58:32
can't believe he's DNFs. Unlucky race.
58:34
I went for Alpine score a
58:36
point, which they absolutely did. All
58:38
right, Dave. No one, yeah, I'm
58:40
on a roll. You're just a
58:43
triad, really. You don't need the
58:45
two points for Russell now, you
58:47
can get that in the bin.
58:49
And then our patron prediction, oh
58:51
for God's say, I've had a
58:54
stinker again. Alonzo finishes in the
58:56
points, Jake M92. Fantastic. I'm sorry.
58:58
I want to switch a minute
59:00
off the lead when he was...
59:02
Yeah. Oh, what a joke. And
59:04
yeah, and I went for position,
59:07
doesn't win the race, which again,
59:09
no. Thank God that didn't come
59:11
in. Otherwise you'd be leading by
59:13
50 points. So, okay. So I've
59:15
got one, two, three, four, five
59:17
as of now. That takes me
59:20
to 11. And that's five with
59:22
an Alex album on TBC. That's
59:24
not including album, so if we
59:26
just scrap that. Oh, we're scrapping
59:28
that. Okay, albums. Yeah. I don't
59:30
need it now. I'll take the
59:33
win. We're just, no. That's really
59:35
an annoying. I know, I know,
59:37
as I can tell how much
59:39
you care about it. And it's
59:41
so funny. But yeah, at the
59:44
moment, it is. Oh, wait, have
59:46
I actually got this wrong way?
59:48
Correct. You added that correct. You
59:50
came into it nine, nine six,
59:52
and you scored five, plus five,
59:54
five, ten. It's 11. No, 11.
59:57
Oh, so why do you think
59:59
that's 11? just because it keeps
1:00:01
the same. So for context, Thomas
1:00:03
just updated the sheet and put
1:00:05
it in a strange order so
1:00:07
that I didn't know. So you
1:00:10
are now leading 1110. That's ridiculous.
1:00:12
I came into this with a
1:00:14
three-point lead. I... Hold on a
1:00:16
second. So in China I went
1:00:18
for the most ridiculous predictions ever
1:00:21
and gained a point on you.
1:00:23
I went for a flipping... McLaren
1:00:25
won two with a Russell third,
1:00:27
some very just solid predictions. Solid
1:00:29
sensible predictions. Yeah, Alonzo gets a
1:00:31
point. One porous pole. Just went
1:00:34
for the safest. So looking forward
1:00:36
to Charlotte Club. Bing. P1 in
1:00:38
your predictions next week. Yeah, we'll
1:00:40
see about that one. Okay, that
1:00:42
is it. Thank you everybody for
1:00:44
tuning in to this podcast for
1:00:47
the Byron Grand Prix. I hope
1:00:49
you enjoyed the race. I certainly
1:00:51
did, I know Tommy did as
1:00:53
well. We can go and see
1:00:55
some patrons now for 15 minutes.
1:00:57
patron.com. For slash Matt P1 Tommy,
1:01:00
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1:01:02
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1:01:04
race review podcasts. Tommy, what are
1:01:06
your final thoughts? Final thoughts. Great
1:01:08
to see an exciting Formula One
1:01:11
race again that I didn't have
1:01:13
to complain about the whole time
1:01:15
and just have some positivity and
1:01:17
just enjoy like why we love
1:01:19
Formula One all over again. Exactly.
1:01:21
Thank you everybody. It's Race Week
1:01:24
literary tomorrow. Saudi Arabian Grand Prix
1:01:26
this weekend coming as in next
1:01:28
weekend. And we'll see you there.
1:01:30
On to Love. Bye! Right, we
1:01:32
just finished the podcast and we
1:01:34
were doing our patron waffle, but
1:01:37
this is now being included at
1:01:39
the end of the podcast because
1:01:41
we need to still mention it
1:01:43
and the fact is that George
1:01:45
Russell is not getting a penalty.
1:01:48
So the FIA document came out
1:01:50
and essentially in a nutshell, because
1:01:52
there's a lot of words, he
1:01:54
accidentally opened his DRS and gained
1:01:56
0.02 of a second, but he
1:01:58
gave up... and that showed in
1:02:01
the telemetry and with all of
1:02:03
the issues that was going on
1:02:05
in the Mercedes car with the
1:02:07
fact that whatever gain he had
1:02:09
he gave up there was no
1:02:11
sporting advantage considered to be gained
1:02:14
from the stewards which is fair
1:02:16
enough and therefore no penalty is
1:02:18
applied. So George Russell P2 locks
1:02:20
in a lovely 18 points. Indeed
1:02:22
and you know and it also
1:02:24
mentions you know that it's a...
1:02:27
a kind of, it's a car
1:02:29
problem but it's not from Mercedes's
1:02:31
issue if you like. So that's
1:02:33
probably why they've been a bit
1:02:35
more lenient. So the car failed
1:02:38
and this was to do with
1:02:40
the DRS activation system due to
1:02:42
issues with a timing loop provided
1:02:44
by an external party and then
1:02:46
that's caused the authorized manual activation
1:02:48
of the DRS which then caused
1:02:51
more problems so maybe yeah there
1:02:53
were a lot of factors going
1:02:55
on. So when we had that
1:02:57
conversation about... Oh well if it's
1:02:59
slam dunk if Mercedes had a
1:03:01
car issue it wasn't Mercedes's car
1:03:04
issue that this is something that's
1:03:06
outside of their control so that's
1:03:08
understandably why they've been lenient and
1:03:10
chosen for no penalty. Yeah. So
1:03:12
there's definitely been consideration there and
1:03:15
yeah. I actually think they just
1:03:17
wanted me to have the predictions
1:03:19
championship lead. I think that's the
1:03:21
clear. It did actually say that
1:03:23
in the bottom of the FIA
1:03:25
doc. Congrats. Top Bellingham. Up the
1:03:28
Bellinghams I think it said actually
1:03:30
for the end. So all right,
1:03:32
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