Bahrain GP Race Review

Bahrain GP Race Review

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Hello everybody and

1:04

welcome back to the

1:07

P1 podcast with Matt

1:09

and Tommy. Yes, Tommy has

1:11

returned from celebrating love and he

1:13

decided you know what I'll turn

1:15

up I'll turn up for the

1:17

race I'll turn up to chat

1:19

about the race the bar in

1:22

Grand Prix should be a good

1:24

one on paper and it was

1:26

on paper and in real life very

1:28

good Tommy oh it was very good

1:30

yeah my my reward for for missing

1:32

yesterday was getting to witness

1:34

seeing p20 match just happened

1:36

at one point in the race which

1:39

I didn't think I've seen for a

1:41

very long time if ever and yeah it

1:43

was it was a great race though I'm I

1:45

am just Despite the Steppens

1:47

result, I'm just happy because we had

1:49

the race we were promised a lot of

1:51

the time when the anticipation is so

1:53

high, sometimes it under delivers, but I

1:56

think we just got a great race there.

1:58

There was a point in the race. where Tommy

2:00

had his head in his hands, where

2:02

Max Verstappen came out of the pits

2:04

in 20th, and it was a moment

2:07

I had dreamed of, seeing Tommy's pain,

2:09

but it didn't last last last last

2:11

week. And then five, five laps later,

2:13

you were leaving the room, because Charlotte

2:15

Clav was on her tires, so where? Yeah,

2:17

he got you come up immediately. I certainly

2:20

did, right, we're getting to everything barring Grand

2:22

Prix, but before we do, a quick shout

2:24

out to our wonderful patrons who'll be getting

2:26

extra chat at the end of every single

2:28

race review across the season, where we do

2:31

10 to 15 minutes, I'll answer more questions

2:33

from you guys, and just give you a

2:35

little bit more premium waffle. And there's a

2:37

lot... To talk about from this one, it

2:40

was a brilliant race. I really enjoyed it.

2:42

We didn't have one overtake for the lead,

2:44

but it still was the best race of

2:46

the season in my opinion. Tommy, let's

2:49

start with your most memorable

2:51

moment. My most memorable moment was different

2:53

strategies. And like you say, I think

2:55

on paper, if you just said that

2:58

you get two races, one where the

3:00

winner is just never gets seen at

3:02

any point to the point where. he's

3:04

shown in a mini box winning

3:06

the race but we'll get into

3:09

that later and then the last

3:11

race where we had the top

3:13

three separated by about a second

3:15

and a half for the entire

3:17

race and one of them was

3:20

terrible one of them was great

3:22

you'd probably pick the wrong

3:24

one but no this race was

3:26

so great and the reason was

3:29

because a strategy and I got

3:31

a screenshot on my phone from

3:33

lap 34 and I put this on Twitter

3:35

saying I've prayed for times like these

3:38

because it's so true. The tire

3:40

graphic at this point in the race, 34

3:42

laps into a 57 lap race,

3:44

was medium, hard, hard, hard, hard,

3:46

medium, hard, soft, soft, medium,

3:48

soft, medium, soft, hard, medium,

3:51

soft, hard, medium, soft, hard,

3:53

medium. We need that every single

3:55

weekend because the problem

3:57

with Formula One, particularly...

4:00

don't have, you know, I know

4:02

refuelings long gone, but now we don't

4:04

have refueling. So many, if

4:06

you have a one-stop race, it's

4:08

just always going to be most

4:10

of the time dull because they all

4:12

start on the same tires, they all

4:14

finish on the same tires. Whereas that,

4:17

because we actually got drivers,

4:19

you know, it was still difficult

4:21

to overtake, there was, was tricky,

4:23

but because the cars were all on

4:25

different tires. the race ebbed

4:28

and flowed and you had some

4:30

people quick and then they were a bit

4:32

slower and oh it was just so

4:34

good like that that is what we need

4:36

and it can be achieved if we just

4:38

had some degrading tires basically

4:41

I completely agree I love

4:43

strategy wow choking up right now

4:45

so you love you love strategy

4:47

as well I mean you yourself

4:49

I think we're a white-walled Parelli Tar

4:52

for most of that race so it

4:54

was it was really great 20 I

4:56

love how I was mocking you and

4:58

he literally finished two positions behind Charlotte

5:01

in the end which is absolutely courageous

5:03

but we'll get onto that. Yeah

5:05

the strategies were awesome to see it was

5:07

so hard to keep up. at points because there

5:10

were drivers out there on 20 lap

5:12

old soft tires trying to go really

5:14

long. You had others that had gone

5:16

for aggressive undercuts. Ocon for example I

5:18

think was one of them that managed

5:20

to get himself absolutely in the mix

5:23

and it worked out for him maybe

5:25

saved a little bit by the safety

5:27

car towards the end. But you just

5:29

had this massive variety of races unfolding

5:31

which made for not just intrigue as

5:34

to who's going to be fast at

5:36

what points but overt having an abrasive...

5:38

track surface like Bahrain caused for

5:40

a non-repeate of Japan where everyone

5:42

had similar tire life and no one

5:44

could really get through. Here, you didn't

5:47

know where to look. You had four

5:49

cars going into turn one at points

5:51

and it was just brilliant. I really

5:53

enjoyed it. I can't remember a race I

5:55

enjoyed as much as this when the leader

5:58

had checked out from pretty much lap. One.

6:00

And one by 15 seconds. Exactly.

6:02

We're here saying it was probably

6:04

the race of the year so far. Now I

6:06

know that some people will go, yeah,

6:08

but what about Australia? I prefer a

6:11

race like this every single day over

6:13

an Australia. Australia is in entertaining in

6:15

its own, right. You have the

6:17

craziness, the sliding off and things

6:19

like that. Don't get me wrong. I

6:22

love that. But as a hardcore Formula

6:24

One fan that's watched the sport now

6:26

for goodness gracious like 25 years, maybe

6:29

more. I, and the reason why last

6:31

year my favourite was Silverstone was

6:33

because there was more to it

6:35

than just a bit of craziness. There

6:37

were loads of different drivers changing positions

6:39

and obviously I'm not likening today to

6:42

Silverstone, but I don't know, it just

6:44

felt like a proper race where there

6:46

wasn't any... random showers and things like

6:49

that. It was just drivers fighting for

6:51

their lives out there. And I thoroughly

6:53

enjoyed it. Question from at precision underscore

6:56

Peter, should the mandatory two-stop rule be

6:58

used at every race, not just

7:00

Monaco? Bahrain showed how much

7:02

excitement and potential for different

7:04

strategy there is with multiple

7:06

pit stops. No, no I don't think so.

7:09

We haven't seen how Monaco is going

7:11

to unfold. Bahrain worked because Bahrain was

7:13

a two-stop. not because it was forced

7:16

to be a two-stop. If we have

7:18

and go to tracks that are

7:20

less abrasive, are we going to

7:22

get the same kind of race? I

7:24

don't think so. When we start putting

7:27

in too many, it has to be

7:29

this, it has to do this. I

7:31

think you're kind of forcing it in

7:33

a lot of ways and then it's

7:35

a question of where do we draw

7:37

the line here and keep it a

7:39

legit sport. Don't get me wrong, the

7:42

two stop was great, I want to

7:44

see more two stops, but I would

7:46

like that to be introduced through the,

7:48

through the medium of, pardon the

7:50

pun, because I'm talking about tires,

7:52

but tires degrading, rather than, you

7:54

have to pit twice and that's the

7:57

rule. Yeah, yeah, it's true. I mean,

7:59

this race probably... does help the kind

8:01

of thing that we've discussed in

8:03

a while of potentially having in

8:06

formula one you have to use

8:08

all three compounds of tire

8:10

and then of course that means

8:12

you would have a two-stop but then

8:15

I guess the other argument

8:17

to that is the reason it was

8:19

so good is because you if

8:21

that happened you could still get

8:23

in a situation where everyone goes

8:26

hard at the start. then they

8:28

all switched to medians, then they

8:30

all switched to soft. Whereas the

8:32

reason here was that people went

8:34

medium, medium, and then at the

8:36

end, because there was just enough

8:39

lapse and it was kind of

8:41

borderline, this is what we saw between

8:43

Russell and LeClaire, for example, one

8:45

went for Hard's and it was

8:47

kind of a toss-up between how that

8:50

was going to kind of pay out.

8:52

So mandatory two-stop, we don't need

8:54

to be that extreme, we just

8:56

need... the tires to be a

8:58

bit more unpredictable in terms

9:00

of degradation, but not, and this

9:02

is the problem that we've

9:05

seen in previous races, is not,

9:07

at the moment, they degrade to the

9:09

point where you can just save them

9:11

the whole race, which is when

9:13

you get boring races, because

9:16

everyone just thinks about tires,

9:18

but you almost need them more

9:20

extreme, that we then see this

9:22

kind of moment, because people

9:24

were having to pair... it looked like,

9:26

you know, people would, there was one

9:28

point where we thought people were going

9:31

to do like a three stop, for

9:33

example, because until the safety car, because

9:35

they were, they just kept thinking on

9:38

their feet, really. It was almost like

9:40

a, it felt like a race where we

9:42

had a sprint, where they haven't had

9:44

a lot of practice, where they didn't

9:46

know what to do. And that is

9:48

what we need, is those moments where

9:51

it's those moments where it's not

9:53

just a... strategists and teams thinking on

9:55

their feet going, oh there's a safety

9:57

cut, oh this has changed, oh actually

9:59

the hard... aren't very good so we need

10:01

to do this or we need to do that.

10:03

That is what Formula One needs and

10:05

this race is just complete proof

10:07

that this is the thing that will fix

10:10

everything like all those kind of

10:12

overtaking problems because overtaking

10:14

was still difficult but it

10:16

was just right that you still you know

10:18

could have overtakes and strategy and it

10:20

made it good. It was the perfect

10:22

storm today because Bahrain is a great

10:24

track for racing. It's wide enough for

10:27

drivers to go side by side and

10:29

have these moves. So it's not going

10:31

to work when we go to others

10:33

because the fundamental problem is the cars.

10:35

And if we had this abrasive circuit

10:37

around Japan, would we have had a

10:40

better race? Yes. Would we have a

10:42

two-stop potentially? I think Bahrain is

10:44

definitely one of the best tracks

10:46

on the calendar. Back to your

10:48

point about the sprint, and this

10:50

is what I said to Alex

10:52

after qualifying, was that leading into

10:54

qualifying and this weekend, FP1

10:56

and FP3 were a write-off. Doesn't matter

10:58

that they've had three practice sessions, only

11:01

one of them was anywhere near representative.

11:03

So we've had exactly the same running.

11:05

Yeah, well no, it's not getting rid

11:08

of though, is it? Make them unrepresentative.

11:10

make them to a level where they

11:12

have to use a different set of

11:15

tires but then again it's then it's

11:17

the argument of where do we then

11:19

the team's like well why are we

11:21

running anyway so the fact that they're

11:24

forced into it yeah then then it

11:26

would just get into a very difficult

11:28

discussion I think between every track is

11:30

a night race and then you you

11:32

run yes they all need to change

11:35

yeah yeah or yeah or yeah or

11:37

maybe you have FP1 at midnight at

11:39

midnight And even when it's a daytime

11:41

thing, that's when you... With no lights,

11:43

that would be counted. Yeah, yeah, that

11:45

would be carnage. But yes, it

11:47

certainly did work in Bahrain. And we're

11:50

not surprised, are we? Because we knew

11:52

it was a track that can work

11:54

with these cars and throw in the

11:56

two-stop and it was brilliant to

11:58

watch. That's great. Okay, let's go

12:01

to my most memorable moment,

12:03

and it is the kind of final

12:06

lapse between Russell, Norris and

12:08

LeClaire. I don't know how

12:10

positively I will look back at

12:13

this, because LeClaire came out the

12:15

worst of all of this. When

12:17

I say a memorable, it doesn't

12:19

necessarily need to be a good

12:21

memory. It's a memory all the

12:23

same. Of course, you know, you kind

12:25

of rewind to the safety

12:27

car and the decision. that

12:30

was made by Ferrari. P1

12:32

patron members Zinging

12:34

13, should Ferrari have put on

12:36

the softs at the safety

12:39

car stop given that everybody

12:41

who had run the hards

12:43

were complaining that they were

12:46

bad. Yes, I think Ferrari were

12:48

in a little bit of a

12:50

difficult spot where they... well

12:52

I'd like to think the strategy

12:55

team have said right.

12:57

if there's a safety car up until

12:59

this point we'll probably have to put the

13:01

hards on. Because they had to put either the

13:03

hards or the softs on. Without the safety car

13:05

I think Shah was looking really good for a

13:08

podium finish. He would have gone a little bit

13:10

longer than everybody else and then boxed

13:12

for softs and been pretty quick. May have

13:14

won the race, probably not. But that didn't happen.

13:17

There was a safety car and it came out

13:19

with like 24 laps to go which was on

13:21

the limit. Russell was surprised to see the

13:23

softs go on his car. but he did

13:25

a great job in making that work and

13:28

some drivers behind as well managed that as

13:30

well. So in hindsight, yes, and I

13:32

was disappointed even at the time that

13:34

they decided to go for the hards, which

13:36

was like a safe option, but not even

13:39

really that safe. And we saw LaClaire around

13:41

the final corner as they were restarting the

13:43

action. He almost lost it because the hards

13:45

were so horrendous with the tire warm-up and

13:47

Norris was all over the back of him.

13:50

So it was a conservative approach. one with

13:52

which I wish they had just, I mean,

13:54

what have they got to lose? They're not fighting

13:56

for the constructors already. I mean, they're out,

13:58

they're out, they're out there. shot. Savage. Is

14:00

fourth and fifth what they're kind of

14:03

happy to finish? It just didn't feel

14:05

like the correct decision then and it

14:07

definitely doesn't feel like the correct decision

14:09

now because again Ferrari didn't even look

14:12

bad on their tires. Shah was going

14:14

long. He was doing pretty well as

14:16

he started on the mediums but he

14:19

was still able to keep them what

14:21

looked like in a good window. It

14:23

was the safer option wasn't it to

14:25

go for... the hard tires I guess

14:28

because yeah Russell of course was very

14:30

much like oh that's a that's a

14:32

long way to go on the soft

14:34

tires and in hindsight yes that did

14:37

work out better yeah it'd be easy

14:39

to bring out like the clown memes

14:41

and stuff for Ferrari and say that

14:43

it was a joke but they were

14:46

I think they were unlucky with with

14:48

the timing of the safety car because

14:50

it was looking quite good I'd love

14:52

to have seen an alternate world I'm

14:55

not complaining because of course we saw

14:57

that really good race. where Charlotte wins.

14:59

Yeah, I agree. Well, no, just an

15:02

alternate race where we did see how

15:04

that strategy for Ferrari paid out because

15:06

they would have gone longer on the

15:08

mediums into the race, potentially, and then

15:11

maybe they could have gone pitted quite

15:13

late and then gone aggressive on the

15:15

soft. I don't think they were ever

15:17

beating the McLarens, and of course, Russell

15:20

is also very quick, of course, as

15:22

time of recording, might get disqualified as

15:24

well. So if that all... Sorry, not

15:26

just qualified. A penalty. A penalty. A

15:29

penalty. Is your good surprise for the

15:31

weekend? Why are you trying to channel

15:33

a disqualification? A penalty. You know, you

15:36

still might get the penalty. So four,

15:38

five, I know it's disappointing based on

15:40

where they were, but that is kind

15:42

of where for AR, sadly, with their

15:45

car. So it's not the end of

15:47

the end of the world. Not the

15:49

end of the world, no, definitely not

15:51

worthy of clown memes, but yeah, just

15:54

a decision that could have gone one

15:56

way or another, but it would have

15:58

been interesting to see firstly, you know,

16:00

the world where the safety card didn't

16:03

come out at all, and also one

16:05

where they went on soft. But we

16:07

will move on to imperator QG. Does

16:09

Lando need to be more aggressive? with

16:12

his overtakes to win this championship. It's

16:14

hard to say whether it's aggression or

16:16

if it's just making the right decisions.

16:19

There were a lot of faints to

16:21

the inside but never going. There were,

16:23

I would say he was aggressive enough

16:25

because he locked up at times and

16:28

misjudged. So the aggression was there, but

16:30

the amount of times we saw that.

16:32

kind of look to the inside but

16:34

it never happened. That is the rule

16:37

101. That's the first thing you learn

16:39

is down the inside into a hairpin

16:41

is probably going to be the move

16:43

for you. Maybe there just wasn't the

16:46

confidence underbreaking for Lando that perhaps other

16:48

drivers have or just in that McLaren,

16:50

whatever it might be. I don't think

16:53

he's not aggressive enough, but he... I

16:55

would say that his racecraft when it

16:57

comes to making those moves... is

17:00

something he needs to improve on

17:02

if he does want to win

17:04

this championship, especially if he's going

17:06

to have these moments in qualifying

17:08

where he is fifth, sixth on

17:10

the grid, and has to get

17:13

through the field in order to

17:15

potentially fight Oscar. He was up

17:17

to third on lap one. Of

17:19

course, he had that five-second penalty,

17:21

but you're wondering, okay, maybe it's

17:23

on, and you put Max for

17:25

stapping in that scenario in that

17:27

car. He's through the second in

17:30

a matter of laps and he's

17:32

chasing down his teammate for the

17:34

win. I have no doubt in

17:36

my mind that that would be

17:38

it. So Lando does need to

17:40

improve his racecraft when it comes

17:42

to overtaken in my opinion. He

17:44

does. I got kind of dejar

17:47

vu from the race in Austin

17:49

actually watching Lando try and pass

17:51

Charlen thinking how has he not

17:53

passed him yet because he's in

17:55

a much quicker car. you know,

17:57

a car that's winning the race

17:59

by 16 seconds, and he needs

18:01

to be making those moves. I

18:04

feel like you could argue that

18:06

to win a championship, you know,

18:08

this is something we've kind of

18:10

praised Lewis Hamilton for, is to

18:12

not do anything silly, don't take

18:14

your front wing off, sometimes that

18:16

kind of approach is just about

18:18

picking up points in the consistency

18:21

over a 24 race championship, but

18:23

at the same time, does Lando

18:25

doesn't have that advantage to maybe

18:27

be like that? this early on

18:29

because Oscar despite a nightmare race

18:31

in Australia that we thought that's

18:33

going to be really costly for

18:35

the world championship and it's a

18:38

massive point swing in Lando's favour.

18:40

Oscar's now only three points behind

18:42

him in the championship and Lando

18:44

can't just be picking up points.

18:46

I mean it was a messy

18:48

messy P3 and he could even

18:50

end up being, it could still

18:52

end up being a P2. if

18:55

George does get a penalty. But

18:57

he just didn't look very convincing.

18:59

You know, he made that amazing

19:01

start that we were all going,

19:03

oh finally Lando's got a good

19:05

start, but then he's messed up

19:07

the pit box. Obviously he had

19:09

a disaster yesterday, grid box, grid

19:12

box, I always say, grid box,

19:14

grid box, that he's had the

19:16

issue with. And then in the

19:18

race, you know, a few lockups,

19:20

kind of getting... I think Charles's

19:22

move was aggressive but he kind

19:24

of got bullied out the way

19:26

obviously couldn't pass George which I

19:29

think other drivers may have been

19:31

a bit more ruthless and made

19:33

it stick. So it's a weird

19:35

thing to say when Lando started

19:37

the year with a first, second,

19:39

second, third to think that it's

19:41

kind of a bit a bit

19:43

disappointing but I think there are

19:46

a bit kind of worrying signs

19:48

there that there so far that

19:50

he does need to kind of...

19:52

be a bit more ruthless and

19:54

be more aggressive because he can't

19:56

play that kind of safe approach

19:58

for a whole season. if Piastri

20:00

is driving the way he is,

20:03

the leads already eroding massively. Yep,

20:05

the step up from Oscar this

20:07

year has been pretty awesome. Of

20:09

course that mistake in Australia costing

20:11

him dearly. Without that he would

20:13

be... handsomely in the lead of

20:15

this championship but he has also

20:17

got mistakes in him and that's

20:20

what's gonna make this championship very

20:22

interesting to watch as it unfolds

20:24

sadly we still didn't get to

20:26

see an Oscar Lando fight out

20:28

on track and I would have

20:30

loved to have seen that around

20:32

Bahrain. Yeah we need to see

20:34

that at some point don't we?

20:37

Yeah we'll have to wait another

20:39

eight races for the next track

20:41

that we can overtake on no

20:43

kidding, I'm kidding, Sally's coming up

20:45

so that's that should be fingers

20:47

crossed a good one a good

20:49

one as well. With a solid

20:51

weekend like that, does Oscar look

20:54

more like the favourite this year?

20:56

Oh, it's... I'm trying not to

20:58

be too knee-jerk here because we

21:00

do love doing that as Formula

21:02

One fans. Oscar is on a

21:04

great trajectory. He's shown from the

21:06

get-go that he is right there

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27:00

without the ads. It's

27:49

not a slam dunk. I saw a

27:52

lot. I saw basically just to go

27:54

on this. I saw some people going

27:56

well if Lando got his penalty deemed

27:58

so quickly Why is this one taking

28:00

so long? But Lando, you can literally

28:03

see it. It is or it isn't.

28:05

Whereas this, it does need investigating, so

28:07

I don't want to be too harsh

28:09

on the stewards here because it needs

28:12

looking at properly rather than making a

28:14

knee-jerk reaction. It's weird though, isn't it?

28:16

Because it depends how you look at

28:18

it. I guess it depends. We don't

28:20

know the evidence, do we? So, you

28:23

know, exactly. Yeah, exactly. And I think

28:25

that is the case is that his

28:27

DRS did open. Did open. when it

28:29

shouldn't have, and they're now investigating why

28:31

that happened and whether he needs a

28:34

penalty. Surely, and you know, this is

28:36

no disrespect to George, but in every

28:38

other realm of the F1, FIA rulebook,

28:40

it's, well, if your card doesn't pass

28:43

all of these tests, whether it's floor

28:45

height, whatever, then you get penalty or

28:47

disqualification. Why is this any different if

28:49

they've had an electrical fault in their

28:51

car? It's still a fault. The DRS

28:54

opens when it's not supposed to be.

28:56

From where I sit, that should just

28:58

be a, well your DRS opened and

29:00

it wasn't in a DRS zone, that's

29:02

a five-second penalty, or whatever it might

29:05

be. I don't know what circumstances, other

29:07

than Mercedes, we had a fault with

29:09

our car, for them to go on.

29:11

You don't worry about it. Yeah, because

29:14

if you... say that there's been so

29:16

many incidents where you can't really say

29:18

oh if someone say I don't know

29:20

you can have a fault with your

29:22

car when you plough into the side

29:25

of someone or something I don't know

29:27

that there's it is kind of a

29:29

black and white thing so yeah if

29:31

that is the case and they have

29:34

seen that there is a DRS it's

29:36

been opened outside the zone or whatever

29:38

or not when he's meant to. Yeah

29:40

surely usually that is slender. unless there's

29:42

a reason that they want to... there's

29:45

reason to believe that there's actually nothing

29:47

to do with this car and it's

29:49

something... do with how his car is

29:51

communicating with some DRS sensor or maybe

29:53

that. I've never seen that as well

29:56

because that was such a weird thing

29:58

to happen. Yeah, the transponder was like,

30:00

see a layer, but his car just

30:02

seemed like he was in all sorts

30:05

of problems. You know, he made a

30:07

joke that, well, as long as the

30:09

steering wheel doesn't fall off because he

30:11

even said at one point that he

30:13

was potentially going to lose, you know,

30:16

all his information. We saw what was

30:18

happening with the timing tower, which which

30:20

we'll get into of him like flopping

30:22

and changing all over the place. And

30:24

then of course all the cars around

30:27

him because he had a break by

30:29

wire failure where his brakes were going

30:31

wrong and then short and it was

30:33

constantly changing. I mean he did an

30:36

incredible job to still finish second. He

30:38

did. And it was a great drive

30:40

from Georgia. It would be a real

30:42

shame if he did end up with

30:44

the penalty. Of course you're saying that

30:47

so you can cash in on a

30:49

good surprise. I see straight through that.

30:51

Next question. Cotai Ryu. Genuine question. What

30:53

is going on with the F1 graphics.

30:55

Everything seems to go wrong. Every race.

30:58

Every race. It's... I

31:00

mean, you would think that

31:02

is like absolutely priority. Absolute

31:05

priority that the graphics work.

31:07

I don't know whether they've

31:09

changed the programming behind it

31:12

or whatever it might be,

31:14

but it's not been a

31:16

great start to the year

31:18

for F1 graphics and just

31:21

generally TV direction as well

31:23

I think has been poor

31:25

at times, especially in this

31:28

race. Now, I was

31:30

quite aggrieved. I went over on Twitter

31:32

and I was like, why have they

31:34

got rid of the live timing full

31:37

stop just because of George Russell's transponder

31:39

issues? Because every other driver's transponder was

31:41

working. I was literally logged into multi-viewer

31:44

and looking at the live timing there.

31:46

It's not as if everything went down

31:48

and it didn't work. In my opinion,

31:51

what they've seen is, oh my God,

31:53

Russell's going up and down the leaderboardable,

31:55

this looks terrible, let's have a clean

31:58

feed of just the cars going around.

32:00

All former. one fans around the world

32:02

do not care if Russell's jumping up

32:05

and down a little bit as long

32:07

as we can see the other gaps.

32:09

We are not in 1990 where we

32:12

need to have gap intervals each lap

32:14

and have a graphic come up. That's

32:16

old news boy. No no I want

32:19

it now and it also it generally

32:21

every time it happens I realize just

32:23

how much I stare at those times

32:26

all the time. It is constant rain

32:28

scratching. Yeah, it feels like a practice

32:30

session. So it's not good enough. I'll

32:33

be completely enough to leave Frank with

32:35

that and not your dog. Because it

32:37

is a paramount part of watching Formula

32:39

One is that those things work. It's

32:42

not the same with football or tennis

32:44

or whatever. You can see what's going

32:46

on. You see the whole picture there

32:49

and then. That leaderboard or graphic or

32:51

whatever it might be. is part of

32:53

the viewing experience. It tells you everything

32:56

that's going on on the track because

32:58

you can't, like you say, you can't

33:00

see every driver. So you need to

33:03

know, like, oh, that person's gained a

33:05

bit. And for them to basically get

33:07

rid of the whole thing, just because

33:10

they're maybe embarrassed that it's a bit

33:12

of a meme that Russell's bouncing up

33:14

and down the timing tower, is not...

33:17

not the right way to go in

33:19

my opinion. And then they tried to

33:21

fix it and broke the whole thing

33:24

and then they got it back up.

33:26

Russell was in second and none of

33:28

the live timings were updating properly. Yeah

33:31

and it was really weird because even

33:33

at the end when Max obviously made

33:35

his move and we'll get onto the

33:38

TV direction missing that later but Max

33:40

made his move and obviously that didn't

33:42

update until pretty much as they were

33:45

crossing the line which showed that the

33:47

whole thing was just completely broken at

33:49

this point and yeah for... You can't

33:52

predict that George is going to have

33:54

those issues, but it's not good enough

33:56

from Formula One, this multi-billion dollar sport

33:58

and all the money they're making and

34:01

how much they're charging fans and everything

34:03

to have that experience where they can't

34:05

basically put on, especially because we're having

34:08

such a good race. as well. It's

34:10

not to the point where I'm like,

34:12

oh my God, it's completely ruined the

34:15

race, but it was very annoying because

34:17

at the end, we're having such a

34:19

good race of Soviet strategy going on.

34:22

There are people kind of, and it

34:24

does take away from the experience not

34:26

to see that because you're so used

34:29

to it now and it is such

34:31

a big part of Formula One. We've

34:33

evolved so much more than just watching

34:36

the cars on the track. We need

34:38

to know this information and that is

34:40

part of the... the grand Prix and

34:43

part of what makes it enjoyable. So

34:45

yeah, a shocker from F1, from the

34:47

graphics, and then, you know, even worse

34:50

was the TV direction, I think. It

34:52

certainly was. I think that, you know,

34:54

there were moments that just really peed

34:57

us off. Question, got to keep walking.

34:59

Can we start a petition to have

35:01

Matt and Tommy take over TV direction?

35:04

Coverage has been absolutely terrible this year.

35:06

Bahrain was the worst yet. There was

35:08

a moment, I think Tommy you shrieked,

35:10

have some wheel knowledge, was when it

35:13

was LeClaren Norris, the switchback of dreams

35:15

was happening I think for Norris, out

35:17

of term one, and we were focusing

35:20

on Hamilton passing whoever it might have

35:22

been at that point, and we could

35:24

see the three tenths, two tenths, two

35:27

tenths, and then we cut when they're

35:29

side by side. Now we didn't miss

35:31

it completely. But then we had an

35:34

on board of LeClaire, I believe it

35:36

was. So then we didn't know where

35:38

Norris was at the time. So again,

35:41

it's like a, we need to see

35:43

the pick, we don't get many overtakes,

35:45

okay, as Formula One fans, we don't

35:48

get a lot. We've had some tough

35:50

couple of races, and we finally get

35:52

overtakes, we need to see them, okay?

35:55

If in doubt, go to the off

35:57

board. Just show us a lovely little,

35:59

no, at the, at the, whatever it,

36:02

whatever it might be, whatever it might

36:04

be. Why are we doing that? It

36:06

just, it wasn't good enough. And it's,

36:09

it's disappointing, isn't it? We go back

36:11

to the whole, how much... much money

36:13

does this sport make? Can we please

36:16

just, I mean we've been talking about

36:18

the TV direction for so many years.

36:20

So many years. And there are periods

36:23

of time where it's decent, but then

36:25

you watch a race like Bahrain and

36:27

go, have they got the interns in?

36:29

Like why is it such a marked

36:32

difference to what we've seen in previous

36:34

races? I'm sick to death of actually

36:36

just constantly having this conversation on this

36:39

this podcast. Yeah, but you're going to

36:41

pop off anyway. I'm going to pop

36:43

off anyway because it's a joke. Everybody

36:46

get your popcorn, sit back, relax. Tom

36:48

Bellion was about to pop off. How

36:50

many times we have to keep saying

36:53

just allow someone that understands Formula One

36:55

racing to control the TV direction? Because

36:57

like you say, we were watching that.

37:00

Of course they're showing Hamilton's move, but...

37:02

LeClieur versus Norris was literally for the

37:04

podium positions. So that has to take

37:07

priority because it's the podium in the

37:09

higher positions and we're getting that amazing

37:11

battle and I understand the frustration and

37:14

the difficulty of Formula One when you

37:16

are getting overtakes that are happening while

37:18

overtakes happening and you're trying to capture

37:21

everything. But we've gone from the last

37:23

race where they were actually showing Charlotte

37:25

Close Pittstock during the only moment of

37:28

the entire race. where you could literally

37:30

see, I don't go back to Japan,

37:32

but you could actually see them leave

37:35

the pit so you knew they were

37:37

going to be side by side, so

37:39

anyone with any knowledge would go stick

37:41

on that camera because they're going outside

37:44

by side. And equally with this one,

37:46

you saw LeCler and Norris go into

37:48

the corner, the wet, it just needs

37:51

someone that knows how cars are positioned

37:53

and how they race and have that

37:55

formula one knowledge to know that Lecler,

37:58

sorry, is now going to get an

38:00

amazing run down that straight, down that

38:02

straight, so show it. So show it.

38:05

as well on Gazi on the final

38:07

lap. I put something about the fact

38:09

that they showed Oscar Piestri in a

38:12

mini box and people were kind of,

38:14

some people were going, oh but you

38:16

know... So we've complained for years that

38:19

they don't show their leaders. Norris and

38:21

Russell were never going to change at

38:23

that point. You could have shown them

38:26

in the mini box, and I've respected

38:28

it. But when do you ever see

38:30

an overtaken to the final corner at

38:33

Bahrain? Never. So it's just respectful to

38:35

show the winner of the race and

38:37

then show the mini box. So you

38:40

keep on, so just in case something

38:42

absolutely crazy, but it was never going

38:44

to happen. And there's just so many

38:47

moments like that where you just feel

38:49

like the person in charge is not

38:51

having the same understanding as the fans

38:54

at home that now Max is in

38:56

two tenths here. He's going to have

38:58

a run at Gazley into that corner

39:00

which he's already tried once. Why aren't

39:03

you cutting to it? Why aren't we

39:05

seeing them in a mini box? All

39:07

these moments and it's just so frustrating

39:10

to watch. I genuinely thought it was

39:12

borderline disrespectful to not show Oscar Piastri

39:14

coming over the line with the big

39:17

box. It made absolutely no sense. That

39:19

should. I think in any situation, apart

39:21

from if it's a championship fight and

39:24

their fifth and sixth on the final

39:26

lap in Abu Dhabi and they're going

39:28

for the world title, fine, then we

39:31

put them in the mini box, someone

39:33

else wins, congratulations. Any other scenario, you

39:35

have the winner in the main feed

39:38

and then a small box if you

39:40

want to show something. Absolutely every time.

39:42

I don't care what anyone says about

39:45

that because Oscar has not been shown

39:47

the entire race because he's dominated. He

39:49

deserves that moment where everybody looks at

39:52

him coming over the line to celebrate.

39:54

I don't feel any differently apart from

39:56

that about that particular situation. So why

39:59

they decided that I'm not sure. And

40:01

that's if they were side by side

40:03

which they never were going to be.

40:06

No, because you can't overtake overtaker that.

40:08

point of the track and that again

40:10

comes to someone with that knows formula

40:13

one and with a bit of wheel

40:15

knowledge that is never on at that

40:17

part of the track. Exactly. Wow goodness

40:19

gracious me look at us we have

40:22

we've we've lost it Tommy we've absolutely

40:24

lost our marbles well let's speak about

40:26

maybe your marbles being lost. P1 patron

40:29

member, Thimmer, is it now officially championship

40:31

back off for Vstappen? Tell me why

40:33

don't you give us your thoughts? Come

40:36

on. How are we feeling? There's a

40:38

Max fan right now. I mean, you

40:40

salvaged a P6 somehow? Nice safety car

40:43

merchant. How are we feeling? Very very

40:45

conflicted because when I saw that... Matt

40:47

says up in P20 graphic. I think

40:50

we said didn't we on the watch

40:52

long. He's not scoring a point here.

40:54

So the context was when he came

40:57

out the pits. In P20. And he

40:59

was literally 20th behind Bartletto. Yeah. He'd

41:01

had a slow stop because the red

41:04

ball light didn't work. The cars terrible

41:06

and not working. He's been put on

41:08

a terrible strategy with the hard tires

41:11

and then they didn't even put the

41:13

tire on properly when he changed. And

41:15

I was here thinking. Is this one?

41:18

Yeah, yeah, how has it got this

41:20

bad? This is the team that were

41:22

dominating Formula One this time last year

41:25

and they're making errors, they're making strategy

41:27

errors, they're making pit stop errors, the

41:29

car is slow, match the step in

41:31

his 20th and last. Would you take

41:34

would you take a P8 at that

41:36

point? I just said absolutely. So P6.

41:38

how far how far Red Bull have

41:41

fallen that you'd take a P6 but

41:43

it is true in that situation and

41:45

I watched that race thinking my god

41:48

it is it really is going to

41:50

be a McLaren P2 but it is

41:52

funny that literally last literally last week

41:55

we were talking about Max is there

41:57

isn't he and he is driving an

41:59

absolute S box at the moment that

42:02

and he's eight points behind in the

42:04

championship. He just needs to hang on

42:06

until maybe that... chain comes in in

42:09

round nine to give him an opportunity

42:11

because seven points that's right eight points

42:13

isn't a lot really at this stage

42:16

of the season but it's not looking

42:18

good for Max at all is it

42:20

it's not looking good brove not at

42:23

all I think that if Bahrain is

42:25

a unique track compared to the first

42:27

three that we've had as for the

42:30

mention you know things we've mentioned the

42:32

tires and everything else it was a

42:34

different kettle of fish to the first

42:37

three He'll have to hope that going

42:39

into Saudi, a different track once again,

42:41

very high speed, that perhaps he won't

42:44

be as bad as Bahrain, and it'll

42:46

just be a one-off. I don't think

42:48

you can really ring the alarm bells

42:50

just yet. The fact that Max has

42:53

finished 6th is utterly ridiculous. Even that,

42:55

I think, is a brilliant drive from

42:57

him. He was on the back foot

43:00

for literally, as you mentioned, every part

43:02

of his race is going wrong. And

43:04

I can already here. I know you

43:07

jigsawite about safety card. merchand stuff but

43:09

like it's funny how all these drivers

43:11

that have these moments are always lucky

43:14

there's always a reason but like he's

43:16

finished sixth again and and all these

43:18

these people that said his I think

43:21

in the last race were going the

43:23

Red Bull isn't that bad we saw

43:25

how bad that car was the first

43:28

race of the season he's been flattered

43:30

by essentially wet weather and we all

43:32

know he's the best driver in the

43:35

wet to finish almost within a tent

43:37

of the win and then Suzuki he's

43:39

put in an absolute godly qualifying lap

43:42

a circuit you can't overtake so he's

43:44

been able to manage to stay ahead

43:46

of the McLarens. He should not be

43:49

where he is in the championship at

43:51

all with that car but he is

43:53

so you can't write him off yet

43:56

but he's 35 seconds off the lead

43:58

when there was a safety car and

44:00

he was battling what felt like Ok

44:02

on the entire... higher rates. Which is

44:05

not something you expected coming to the

44:07

bar rate. Exactly. Ocon in a house.

44:09

So yeah, he's still in the fight,

44:12

but I am. so much less confident

44:14

now about him challenging for this championship

44:16

than I was and I know it's

44:19

only more race but this is more

44:21

love it look at this you are

44:23

you are showing your your for you

44:26

wouldn't you wouldn't last a week if

44:28

you're a Ferrari fan you really wouldn't

44:30

but you know boo-hoo Tommy you've got

44:33

a bad car now deal with it

44:35

that's that oh god I'm drinking it

44:37

in right now welcome to the pain

44:40

club we can both just enjoy McLaren

44:42

dominance dominance this year at least I

44:44

don't have to you know speak to

44:47

you smugly every single weekend about Max

44:49

winning by 30 seconds and we can

44:51

both be in the pain boat. Okay

44:54

let's well I think I kind of

44:56

echo what you say in terms of

44:58

of Max it's it's hard to write

45:01

him off at this point I still

45:03

don't think we should write him off

45:05

but let's see let's wait till after

45:08

Saudi at the very least. Next question

45:10

people on Patriot member wilderness Ted is

45:12

Yuki the answer to Redball's second driver

45:15

problem? Yuki had an all right race

45:17

you know. I don't think he had

45:19

quite the same amount of painful moments

45:21

that Max did and Yuki was still

45:24

definitely slower than Max let's not let's

45:26

not be you know too crazy about

45:28

this but he scored points and I

45:31

am totally fine with that that's kind

45:33

I think I expected slightly faster Yuki's

45:35

noted but then again if you look

45:38

comparatively to where Max was it's probably

45:40

what can be considered a decent performance

45:42

from from Yuki so Where did he

45:45

finish in the end? P9? P9. 45

45:47

seconds off. He was 10 seconds behind

45:49

Max at the end there. So yeah,

45:52

it was good enough, I would say,

45:54

for Yuki, getting his first points for

45:56

Red Ball, finishing ahead of both RBs

45:59

that had shockers, to be honest with

46:01

you. So I don't know if he's

46:03

the answer yet, but he's certainly... He's

46:06

figuring out the question if that makes

46:08

any sense. I actually think he's kind

46:10

of embarrassed Red Bull a little bit

46:13

here that they didn't put him in

46:15

the first place because with absolutely no

46:17

testing and yet he's gone to a

46:20

track that he knows a bit better

46:22

and had the practice time. But Liam

46:24

Lawson led us to believe that that

46:27

car was undriveable and you couldn't even

46:29

score a point, you couldn't even... not

46:31

finished last. Basically, yeah, yeah, genuinely. And

46:33

Yuki Snowden has finished, you know, 10

46:36

seconds off Max, he scored points, had

46:38

a bit of a messy racing moments

46:40

where maybe Red Bull's kind of decision

46:43

not to put him in. I was

46:45

a little bit wincing sometimes when he

46:47

was sticking his nose and going, Yuki,

46:50

don't, don't take your front wing off.

46:52

This is, this is what Red Bull

46:54

worried about promoting you in the first

46:57

place. But he has finished in a

46:59

good. in a good position. And Lawson's

47:01

form, which is why we're on the

47:04

subject, is woeful. I mean, the fact

47:06

that he's gone back into the RB

47:08

that a lot of people thought was

47:11

quicker, and people, quicker than the second

47:13

Red Bull, whatever you think of, that

47:15

seat, and cursed or whatever. People expected

47:18

Lawson to be potentially even beating Sonoda,

47:20

and Lawson's having an absolute shocker, he

47:22

got two penalties for crashing into people,

47:25

he's got no pace. you know, nowhere,

47:27

just an absolutely awful race from him.

47:29

And Yuki's done a good job, which

47:32

shows Red Bull, why did you not

47:34

stick him in in the first place?

47:36

Because he has certainly not done that

47:39

bad at all. Still have no idea

47:41

why they chose Lawson over Sonoda. There

47:43

was nothing really to go off that...

47:46

They decided to not go for the

47:48

driver with money from the engine, more

47:50

experience, and more fans. And they went...

47:52

No, we'll just... No, we'll just... No,

47:55

we'll just... No, we'll just... No, we'll

47:57

just... No, we'll just... Here we go.

47:59

Oh no, we'll get rid of the

48:02

underdog very quickly. Yeah, just yeah, for

48:04

driver experts, Horner and Marco, they don't

48:06

make a lot, they do make a

48:09

lot of crap decisions, don't they? Oh,

48:11

Tommy, that was a bit of naughty

48:13

word for the podcast. Goodness gracious me.

48:16

Usually you see that on Twitch. Yeah,

48:18

I think what you're saying is completely

48:20

correct. Yuki was the the the the

48:23

the decision when it's the two drivers

48:25

of Lawson and sonoda. whether he's the

48:27

answer to their problems which is kind

48:30

of what I was more leaning towards.

48:32

It depends what the answer to the

48:34

problems in because if Max disappears at

48:37

the next race they're absolutely screwed because

48:39

they've got a car built around like

48:41

you know made for Max Estappan and

48:44

he's not driving from next year and

48:46

they don't have a star driver. So

48:48

at the moment he's a good he's

48:51

in a good spot and they're doing

48:53

what he should be doing. So I'm

48:55

impressed. Yeah a good step up from

48:58

UKIP this weekend this weekend. Okay, let's

49:00

head to our predictions. Just before we

49:02

do, oh, oh, what do you want

49:04

to say to me? Oh, it's not

49:07

actually, so it's not actually George Russell,

49:09

it's a lot less exciting, but just

49:11

a weird one to mention, is that

49:14

Nika Holkenberg is actually set to be

49:16

disqualified because of excessive skidware, which I

49:18

know it's only 13th, but it's still

49:21

an interesting point that it's going to

49:23

be another disqualification, which of course happened

49:25

to the Ferraris. And yeah, is that

49:28

why you brought it up? Because it

49:30

changes nothing about the points, mate. It

49:32

doesn't, but... Do you remember that time

49:35

back in China? Time the Ferrari got

49:37

disqualified. Yeah. But no, it's unusual that

49:39

we're kind of seeing this happen again.

49:42

Unusual that it happened again. Unusual that

49:44

it shows how low these cars have

49:46

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we now head to predictions unless Tommy

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wants to add something else. No, just

52:56

that I really wish they'd made the

52:59

Russell decision by now because this could

53:01

all change. It's fine. Well, just, you

53:03

just wait a second. We post the

53:05

graphic, don't we? As well. Yeah, but

53:08

don't worry, don't worry, because I've got

53:10

something to tell you before, you know,

53:12

when we're going into that. So, you

53:15

know, just relax, just take a deep

53:17

breath. I believe he was very good

53:19

surprising, which is not good English, but

53:22

it's definitely a point to me. Thank

53:24

you very much. Yeah, I think Yiki

53:26

Sinoda, definitely a good surprise. I think

53:29

we said it during our watch along,

53:31

didn't we, that when was the last

53:33

time you could look at the timing

53:36

tower and see two red bulls in

53:38

the same kind of vision? Yeah, never.

53:40

Feels like ages. So my good surprise.

53:42

was George Russell. And this is where

53:45

I'm going to come in Tommy, because

53:47

I'm going to give you a point

53:49

no matter what. It doesn't matter if

53:52

George gets a five-second penalty. If he

53:54

gets disqualified, you can get rid of

53:56

your point. That's straight in the bin.

53:59

But if it's a five-second penalty, he'll

54:01

still finish fourth. Charlotte Clay on the

54:03

podium. That's still a W for me.

54:06

I think George had a phenomenal drive

54:08

this weekend, so I'm not going to

54:10

dispute it. And you of course offered

54:12

me two points as well, so thank

54:15

you very much. Wait, hold on a

54:17

second. The regret. The regret. The regret.

54:19

The regret. Your face immediately. You're like,

54:22

oh no, actually. No, let me think

54:24

about this. Oh my God, I completely

54:26

forgot about that. Yeah it was the

54:29

double pointer because I had to change

54:31

it from speaking. So I deserve. I'm

54:33

going to change it. I'm going to

54:36

change my offer. Okay. So if he

54:38

stays in second penalty, you get one

54:40

point. Yeah, simple. Same plus. Same plus.

54:42

Oh God, why did I? Oh no.

54:45

Okay, let's go to a big flop.

54:47

I went for Charlotte Claire. That didn't

54:49

kind of work sadly. So I don't

54:52

get a point and he didn't win.

54:54

So no one one one for big

54:56

flopop, sadly. Sadly. And I went for

54:59

Alex Alvin, which he got knocked out.

55:01

Well, he didn't, he did and didn't

55:03

get knocked out in Q1 and had

55:06

his worst race of the season. Oh,

55:08

oh, P12. So, is that a flop?

55:10

That's a flop. He's finished, he finished

55:13

fifth, seventh, ninth in the first few

55:15

races. Is that a sizable flop? Mmm.

55:17

That's very interesting. It's on the fence,

55:19

isn't it? It seems like Michael Masseying,

55:22

this is running a TBC, shall we?

55:24

TBC, and we'll see what people say

55:26

in the comments, just see you're aware

55:29

Alex, album, finished 12th, and his teammate

55:31

didn't finish, so realistically beat signs by

55:33

eight positions. So, you know, you used

55:36

that. However you like. It's too tense

55:38

off, science, so, yeah. It's inferior driver

55:40

this weekend. Al Bonn finished just behind

55:43

a Mercedes so that is a phenomenal

55:45

drive from him. Pole position! I went

55:47

for Lando Norris and I did not

55:49

get a point. And I went for

55:52

the other one, Oscar Piastri. Well done,

55:54

congratulations. The 50-50 McLaren gamble this time.

55:56

This is actually concerning me, I haven't

55:59

thought about this. So my... top three

56:01

were Norris Piaestri Russell which are all

56:03

wrong which is ridiculous yeah I would love

56:06

to know how many times I

56:08

have gone for a Norris win

56:10

and it's actually come in because

56:12

I think it's zero I cannot

56:14

remember time you've predicted Norris to

56:16

win in either the podcast all

56:18

the graphic as a shocker I

56:20

genuinely feel like that's true if

56:22

I genuinely think we could clip

56:24

back and it always seems to be

56:27

the case God I'm so sorry Lando

56:29

fans I really am I don't

56:31

mean it I genuinely think he's

56:33

gonna win the race yeah well

56:35

he was favorite yeah I went

56:38

for Russell Pastry Norris and so

56:40

of all those to be right it was

56:42

a Norris in P3 which was a which

56:44

might change and just on just

56:47

on that actually yeah so that

56:49

that might change we might both

56:51

end up with with zero of

56:53

course Just like the FIA will

56:55

put a graphic out on our social

56:57

media with the updated scores. I mean,

57:00

we've shown a bit of word like

57:02

that, we've got the top three, just

57:04

in the wrong order. Indeed. So, but

57:06

not good enough will in order

57:09

to score any points, or at

57:11

least for me. Okay, let's go

57:13

to the family top three. It's

57:15

currently two, one to the Bellinghams.

57:17

Really, really happy about that. My

57:19

mother went for third place, Piastri,

57:22

and that is wrong. My dad

57:24

went for P3 George Russell, which is

57:26

wrong as of recording. We'll

57:28

always be wrong. We'll always

57:30

be wrong. You never know.

57:32

He got a one-place grid

57:34

penalty. He loves an obscure

57:36

penalty, doesn't he Russell? In

57:38

second place, for stappen, my

57:40

mom went for, goodness gracious

57:43

me. Does she want to like lock

57:45

in with some wheel knowledge? P2.

57:47

Land in Oris. Land in Oris.

57:49

My dad went for. So, wrong. And

57:51

my dad went for Piastri, which is

57:53

correct. And it was looking like that was

57:55

going to be... It could have almost got

57:57

the top three, I think, yeah. I was

57:59

scared. for not getting a three

58:01

pointer because we were one kind

58:03

of Norris dive bomb away from

58:06

potentially that happening but it's another

58:08

point for the Bellingham so Thoree

58:10

won Oh deary me we're gonna

58:12

have the Michael Massey the Gallagher's

58:14

versus Bellingham's championship as well aren't

58:17

we because you are steaming ahead

58:19

at one crazy prediction I went

58:21

for Carlos signs best of the

58:23

rest which was absolutely on like

58:25

that was yeah it was actually

58:27

that he was fighting ghazley for

58:30

P5 I think it was I

58:32

can't believe he's DNFs. Unlucky race.

58:34

I went for Alpine score a

58:36

point, which they absolutely did. All

58:38

right, Dave. No one, yeah, I'm

58:40

on a roll. You're just a

58:43

triad, really. You don't need the

58:45

two points for Russell now, you

58:47

can get that in the bin.

58:49

And then our patron prediction, oh

58:51

for God's say, I've had a

58:54

stinker again. Alonzo finishes in the

58:56

points, Jake M92. Fantastic. I'm sorry.

58:58

I want to switch a minute

59:00

off the lead when he was...

59:02

Yeah. Oh, what a joke. And

59:04

yeah, and I went for position,

59:07

doesn't win the race, which again,

59:09

no. Thank God that didn't come

59:11

in. Otherwise you'd be leading by

59:13

50 points. So, okay. So I've

59:15

got one, two, three, four, five

59:17

as of now. That takes me

59:20

to 11. And that's five with

59:22

an Alex album on TBC. That's

59:24

not including album, so if we

59:26

just scrap that. Oh, we're scrapping

59:28

that. Okay, albums. Yeah. I don't

59:30

need it now. I'll take the

59:33

win. We're just, no. That's really

59:35

an annoying. I know, I know,

59:37

as I can tell how much

59:39

you care about it. And it's

59:41

so funny. But yeah, at the

59:44

moment, it is. Oh, wait, have

59:46

I actually got this wrong way?

59:48

Correct. You added that correct. You

59:50

came into it nine, nine six,

59:52

and you scored five, plus five,

59:54

five, ten. It's 11. No, 11.

59:57

Oh, so why do you think

59:59

that's 11? just because it keeps

1:00:01

the same. So for context, Thomas

1:00:03

just updated the sheet and put

1:00:05

it in a strange order so

1:00:07

that I didn't know. So you

1:00:10

are now leading 1110. That's ridiculous.

1:00:12

I came into this with a

1:00:14

three-point lead. I... Hold on a

1:00:16

second. So in China I went

1:00:18

for the most ridiculous predictions ever

1:00:21

and gained a point on you.

1:00:23

I went for a flipping... McLaren

1:00:25

won two with a Russell third,

1:00:27

some very just solid predictions. Solid

1:00:29

sensible predictions. Yeah, Alonzo gets a

1:00:31

point. One porous pole. Just went

1:00:34

for the safest. So looking forward

1:00:36

to Charlotte Club. Bing. P1 in

1:00:38

your predictions next week. Yeah, we'll

1:00:40

see about that one. Okay, that

1:00:42

is it. Thank you everybody for

1:00:44

tuning in to this podcast for

1:00:47

the Byron Grand Prix. I hope

1:00:49

you enjoyed the race. I certainly

1:00:51

did, I know Tommy did as

1:00:53

well. We can go and see

1:00:55

some patrons now for 15 minutes.

1:00:57

patron.com. For slash Matt P1 Tommy,

1:01:00

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1:01:02

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1:01:04

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1:01:06

your final thoughts? Final thoughts. Great

1:01:08

to see an exciting Formula One

1:01:11

race again that I didn't have

1:01:13

to complain about the whole time

1:01:15

and just have some positivity and

1:01:17

just enjoy like why we love

1:01:19

Formula One all over again. Exactly.

1:01:21

Thank you everybody. It's Race Week

1:01:24

literary tomorrow. Saudi Arabian Grand Prix

1:01:26

this weekend coming as in next

1:01:28

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1:01:30

On to Love. Bye! Right, we

1:01:32

just finished the podcast and we

1:01:34

were doing our patron waffle, but

1:01:37

this is now being included at

1:01:39

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1:01:41

we need to still mention it

1:01:43

and the fact is that George

1:01:45

Russell is not getting a penalty.

1:01:48

So the FIA document came out

1:01:50

and essentially in a nutshell, because

1:01:52

there's a lot of words, he

1:01:54

accidentally opened his DRS and gained

1:01:56

0.02 of a second, but he

1:01:58

gave up... and that showed in

1:02:01

the telemetry and with all of

1:02:03

the issues that was going on

1:02:05

in the Mercedes car with the

1:02:07

fact that whatever gain he had

1:02:09

he gave up there was no

1:02:11

sporting advantage considered to be gained

1:02:14

from the stewards which is fair

1:02:16

enough and therefore no penalty is

1:02:18

applied. So George Russell P2 locks

1:02:20

in a lovely 18 points. Indeed

1:02:22

and you know and it also

1:02:24

mentions you know that it's a...

1:02:27

a kind of, it's a car

1:02:29

problem but it's not from Mercedes's

1:02:31

issue if you like. So that's

1:02:33

probably why they've been a bit

1:02:35

more lenient. So the car failed

1:02:38

and this was to do with

1:02:40

the DRS activation system due to

1:02:42

issues with a timing loop provided

1:02:44

by an external party and then

1:02:46

that's caused the authorized manual activation

1:02:48

of the DRS which then caused

1:02:51

more problems so maybe yeah there

1:02:53

were a lot of factors going

1:02:55

on. So when we had that

1:02:57

conversation about... Oh well if it's

1:02:59

slam dunk if Mercedes had a

1:03:01

car issue it wasn't Mercedes's car

1:03:04

issue that this is something that's

1:03:06

outside of their control so that's

1:03:08

understandably why they've been lenient and

1:03:10

chosen for no penalty. Yeah. So

1:03:12

there's definitely been consideration there and

1:03:15

yeah. I actually think they just

1:03:17

wanted me to have the predictions

1:03:19

championship lead. I think that's the

1:03:21

clear. It did actually say that

1:03:23

in the bottom of the FIA

1:03:25

doc. Congrats. Top Bellingham. Up the

1:03:28

Bellinghams I think it said actually

1:03:30

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