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the P1 podcast with Matt and

2:01

Tommy. Driver rating,

2:03

sign, sign? I

2:05

was going to say siren. Play

2:07

the siren, play the klaxon. We're

2:09

here. The disagreement. It's time

2:11

to agree to disagree because we have

2:13

got our grades locked in from

2:15

zero all the way to 10 on

2:18

every single driver's performance over the

2:20

Saudi Arabian Grand Prix weekend. Tommy, how

2:22

are you feeling going into this

2:24

one, sir? Looking forward to it. Always

2:26

a bit of spice and yeah, it's

2:29

another race, even though it wasn't the

2:31

greatest race in the world. Plenty of

2:33

talking points. And yeah,

2:35

I'm sure there'll be some disagreements of opinion

2:37

as well, which is always good as

2:39

long as it's healthy. is how

2:41

the world rotates. Right,

2:43

let's get into the first driver,

2:45

which is Gabrielle Bortoletto. Started the

2:48

race in 20th, finished 18th. I'm

2:50

going to lock in a four

2:52

out of 10 for Gabrielle Bortoletto. slightly

2:55

worse than perhaps the solid fives

2:57

that we tend to give Salba. One,

3:00

because he qualified last and

3:02

finished the race last of the

3:04

finishers, but also nearly sent

3:06

his manager Fernando Alonso into the

3:08

shadow realm and he got

3:10

very, very lucky that he didn't

3:12

do that by only a

3:14

few centimetres. Can't really downgrade him

3:16

too much about a near incident, but I

3:18

still think he's deserving of a 4 out

3:20

of 10. Just I

3:22

think he himself said after after

3:24

the race that kind of just

3:27

needs a break to Sort of

3:29

reset and go again. So 4

3:31

out of 10 for me. I've

3:33

also gone for a 4 out

3:35

of 10 for Bortoletti Yeah qualified

3:37

last cause it's a terrible car

3:39

and Of course said that weird

3:41

problem didn't here in practice where

3:43

I just kind of did no

3:45

running so probably put them on

3:47

the back foot a bit But

3:50

the reason it's a 4 like

3:52

you say is because of that

3:54

Very near miss that I think

3:56

him drifting over a few more

3:58

centimeters and him wiping out essentially

4:00

his manager would have been quite

4:02

quite a massive story Thankfully he

4:04

avoided it and Yeah, kind of

4:06

a disappointing weekend really for Bortoletto

4:08

The fans gave him a four

4:10

as well. Nico Holkenberg started the

4:13

race in 18th finished 15th. I've

4:15

gone for a five out of

4:17

ten for Nico Holkenberg Yeah,

4:20

after that, bizarre start to

4:22

the season when Nico Hülkenberg had

4:24

that points finish, and then

4:26

that really strong points finish, of

4:28

course, in Australia, and then

4:31

a difficult race in China, kind

4:33

of back to straight down the middle,

4:35

where he's kind of just performing where that

4:37

car about is, I don't think the

4:39

Salbert is as bad as last year. It

4:42

can at least fight it in the

4:44

mix of the midfield, but nothing particularly special

4:46

from Hülkenberg, so I've gone for a

4:48

five. I've gone for a 6 out of

4:50

10 because I am this year trying

4:52

to give the worst car on the grid

4:54

anything more than a 5 when I

4:56

see even an inkling of performance. And

4:59

Hülkenberg, you know, shifed his teammate

5:01

by 15 seconds. So can

5:03

I really give him only one grade

5:05

higher? He also didn't qualify last, I had

5:07

18. Finishing 15th, they had a stroll

5:09

in doing. You get a

5:12

6, Nico, because that's about all you're going to

5:14

get, sadly, at the moment, because he was

5:16

nowhere near the two houses ahead of him. But

5:18

yeah, he was just hoping,

5:20

wasn't he, for some kind of

5:22

chaos around this track after

5:24

pitting right at the beginning. But

5:27

it just didn't work. It did

5:29

not work at all. Let's

5:31

move on now to Alex Albon.

5:33

Started the race on 11th, finished

5:35

9th. It's going to be an

5:37

8 out of 10 for Alex

5:39

Albon this weekend, having

5:42

to... Constantly remind myself that

5:44

the Williams scoring points is not

5:46

a 10 out of 10

5:48

stone cold performance this year. No,

5:50

not in 2025, that's for

5:52

sure. Still a very good weekend

5:54

for Albon, just narrowly missing out

5:56

on Q3 and then scoring a

5:58

couple of points. I feel like

6:01

he was helped by signs at

6:03

the end of that race as

6:05

much as signs believed that he

6:07

could drive away. I think he

6:09

could from Hajar. I'm not sure

6:11

about Albon as demonstrated by the

6:13

final lap. See you later by

6:15

Carlos signs where he left Alex

6:17

for dust to just showcase how

6:19

much more pace Carlos had in

6:21

the car. But still, Alex

6:23

finishing ninth is a great result.

6:26

Yeah, gone for an 8 out

6:28

of 10 as well. good performance

6:30

from Alex Albin continued his great

6:32

season. You know, it's

6:34

only one race that he's not scored points in. And

6:37

yeah, he disappointed in qualifying, I think,

6:39

compared to his teammate, but made it made

6:41

back for it in the race and

6:43

was on the back of him at the

6:45

end, mainly thanks to that brilliant bit

6:47

of teamwork from Williams for him to hold

6:50

on to ninth place. So

6:52

yeah, a good performance from Albin again.

6:54

The fans gave Alex Albon an eight, and

6:56

if I forgot to say, Hülkenberg got

6:58

a five from all of you lot, which

7:00

I think I might have forgotten to

7:02

say. Carlos Sainz! Start of the

7:04

race in sixth, finished eighth. I've

7:06

gone for a nine out of ten

7:08

for Carlos Sainz. Absolutely brilliant

7:11

qualifying to be P6. And

7:14

of course, finishing best of

7:16

the rest behind the top teams.

7:19

The reason it's not a ten is, I feel like,

7:21

you need to save a ten for those. performances

7:24

where they do get in

7:26

the mix there. But

7:28

that's not to take anything away

7:30

from him. It's still a brilliant

7:32

drive from Carlos and this is

7:34

the Carlos we were expecting right

7:36

from the start the season. So

7:38

fingers crossed this continues and we

7:40

see this more often now at

7:42

regular races because this is what

7:44

we expected from him. Certainly.

7:46

My grade for Carlos Sainz is

7:48

also a 9 out of 10.

7:52

It's quite sad to see that, you

7:54

know, when all of the drivers

7:56

of Sibar Sonoda finish, they

7:58

are 25 seconds clear, like the

8:00

back, i .e. Hamilton in seventh to

8:02

then Carlos Sainz in eighth. There is

8:04

still a rather large chasm between

8:06

the top four teams and the rest,

8:09

but... it's one of those 9 out of

8:11

10 performances from Carlos, which was just

8:13

brilliant. Perhaps may well have been a 10

8:16

if he'd been let off the leash

8:18

in that final stint to see just how

8:20

much further he would have got ahead

8:22

of Albon, but I'm not sure there was

8:24

a huge amount more in the car.

8:26

But still, a really solid performance from Carlos

8:28

and he's starting to get a grip

8:31

of that Williams, which I'm very excited to

8:33

see unfold across the rest of this

8:35

season. The fans gave Carlos a 9 as

8:37

well. Isaac Hachar. Start

8:39

the race in 14th, finish

8:41

10th. I've

8:43

gone for an 8 out of 10

8:45

for Hajjar. Kind of what

8:47

could have been really, I think. I

8:49

think he drove a brilliant race, but

8:51

just put himself on the back foot

8:53

after qualifying. Had he finished

8:56

8th, which was very possible, then

8:58

we'd be talking potentially in the 9s,

9:00

perhaps even a 10 for being

9:02

a rookie and performing as well as

9:04

he did. But it's still... really

9:06

promising performance from Hajar to start behind

9:08

his teammate Lawson and to finish

9:11

ahead of him on the road. It's,

9:15

yeah, Hajar. I genuinely thought I was

9:17

confident that potentially if we were going

9:19

to have a flop from Hajar, it'd

9:21

be around a track like this. But

9:23

he showed no, no sort of

9:25

what would be the word. I was

9:27

going to say being scared, but

9:30

like, you know, he had the He

9:32

wasn't intimidated by Saudi Arabia. Tommy

9:36

calling for Saurus Bellingham more like. But

9:38

yeah, he wasn't intimidated by a track like

9:40

this and that bodes really well for him, I

9:42

think, for the rest the season. I have

9:45

gone for a nine for Isaac Hedger. I think

9:47

it's a great performance from a rookie to

9:49

grab points. The V -Carb

9:51

isn't as good as it was

9:53

at the start of the season. Yes,

9:55

he left some on the table in qualifying.

9:59

I think it's not his fault

10:01

that the Williams played an absolute

10:03

blinding strategy. That's

10:05

on Williams being very

10:08

impressive. Because, yeah, without

10:10

it, who knows, he could

10:12

have maybe even challenged Sainz because

10:14

he looked very quick. But DRS

10:16

trains are DRS trains. But it's

10:18

still a great result from Hajjah

10:20

to get points as a rookie

10:22

around very difficult track. So very

10:24

impressive to them this year. The

10:27

fans gave Hajjah an eight.

10:30

Liam Lawson started the race in

10:32

12th, finished 12th. I've gone

10:34

for a seven out of ten

10:36

for Liam Lawson. I think

10:38

it was a much more respectable

10:40

performance from him to qualify

10:42

ahead of his teammate, which I

10:45

know he's not been in

10:47

that car all year, but more

10:49

experienced driver even though he's

10:51

not had many races, but obviously

10:53

more than had jar. And

10:56

of course, if you've seen the

10:58

social media clip that we shared, we

11:01

had that disagreement over The

11:03

penalty, 10 seconds of course is

11:05

harsh for what it is. It should

11:07

have been a penalty or and

11:09

I still go back to, I'm still

11:11

adamant that they could just tell

11:13

people to swap positions. I'm

11:16

still, I still think that you have to complete,

11:18

I'm not gonna change my mind on that, you

11:20

have to complete an overtake into a corner and

11:22

if you go off. and

11:24

you kind of fly into a corner

11:26

with your DRS open and miss the breaks

11:29

and go off. You've not

11:31

completed the overtake. So from that side,

11:33

yeah, it does seem incredibly harsh that

11:35

it's 10 seconds, which is quite a

11:37

lot, but he wouldn't have scored points

11:39

anyway, but better from Lawson after what's

11:41

been such a poor season. This is

11:43

more kind of what we expected and

11:45

maybe this is the part where he

11:47

gets his confidence back. I

11:50

have gone for a 7 out of 10

11:52

for Lawson as well. I can't give a

11:55

difference of two grades between the two drivers.

11:57

Never seen a lack of wheel knowledge displayed

11:59

like this, ever since we've worked together, Tommy.

12:02

But of course, we disagree on the

12:04

delivering of the penalty. A rookie

12:06

that got... points. Are we forgetting that

12:08

Lawson has not completed a full

12:10

season as a Formula One driver? This

12:12

guy is not Fernando Alonso. Lawson,

12:15

you could argue, has less experience

12:17

in this current car than Hajar. So

12:19

that's why I'm not really saying

12:21

as much as he has more experience

12:23

as a driver, the

12:26

actual relative experience. Because you don't think he made

12:28

a mistake, that's why with racing balls. There's plenty

12:30

of reasons. But Lawson, yeah, I

12:32

don't... don't think he deserved the penalty for that.

12:34

I think it was a track limits violation. The

12:36

move was done. Yes, he outbraked himself, but

12:39

it was literally done halfway down

12:41

the straight. The DRS was closed.

12:43

He braked and whatever. But anyway.

12:46

He would have finished just over one second

12:48

behind his teammate on the road, which I

12:50

think was a great job considering I think

12:52

had John maybe had the better strategy in

12:54

the long run. If you look at how

12:56

quick Lando as well was was at the

12:59

end of the race. But still, it was

13:01

a decent showing from both the racing balls

13:03

and for Lawson. I think it was a

13:05

settler for him because it was looking slightly

13:07

concerning when he first came back. So it's

13:09

a seven for me. The fans gave him

13:11

a six. No, that's not. That is

13:13

harsh. They definitely looked at the race result

13:15

and forgot about the really unfair 10 -second penalty. OK,

13:18

Oli Bearman started the

13:21

race in 15th, finished

13:23

13th. I've gone for a

13:25

6 out of 10 for Oli Bearman. Not

13:28

a weekend I was hoping for him, considering

13:30

I good surprised him. And he'd had a

13:32

great performance last year in the Ferrari. And

13:35

it just did not work

13:37

out, really. The Haas were...

13:40

Underwhelming in qualifying, but also underwhelming in

13:42

the race as well, which was sad

13:44

to see and just really shows how

13:46

much knowledge I have when it comes

13:48

to good surprising this year. But

13:50

yeah, it was it was still

13:52

a better than middle of the road.

13:54

I think for Berman, he still

13:56

finished 15 odd seconds ahead of Ocon.

13:59

I know they were on different strategies,

14:01

but Ocon was forced into that strategy

14:03

purely by the fact that he qualified

14:05

really badly. So yeah, Berman

14:07

six. I've gone for a 6

14:09

out of 10 for Oli Behrman as

14:11

well. The Haas, their pace is

14:13

very unusual this year. Didn't

14:15

work for them this time. But

14:18

Behrman to finish ahead of his

14:20

teammate by quite a long way. I

14:22

know Ocon had an unusual strategy,

14:24

tried something a bit different and

14:27

gambled, but for Oli Behrman as the

14:29

rookie to finish 20 seconds ahead

14:31

is still impressive, but maybe not the

14:33

race we thought he might have. Based

14:36

on his heroics last year of

14:38

his super sub performance Super sub

14:40

indeed the fans gave him a

14:42

five not happy at all. It's

14:44

about knock on start the race

14:46

in 19th finished 14th. I have

14:49

gone for a five out of

14:51

10 for us to ban on

14:53

disappointing weekend I on the watch

14:55

along shows and why I should

14:57

not be a strategist because I

14:59

was saying that they should have

15:01

done exactly what they did. And

15:03

it was maybe worth a gamble

15:05

that, of course, they kind of

15:07

pitted early for the hard tyres

15:09

and thought, can we go to

15:11

the end? But it didn't work

15:13

out. And even though he was

15:15

running quite high up, he

15:17

was just kind of dropping,

15:19

wasn't he? Like a stone through

15:21

the field as everyone came

15:24

through on better tyres. But

15:26

yeah, still 20 seconds behind

15:28

your teammate, disappointing for Ocon. 5

15:30

out of 10 from me for

15:33

Ocon. He needs to figure out it's

15:35

qualifying in that car. He really does because we

15:37

know how good he's been in the race. We

15:39

know how good the strategy has been at Haas

15:41

as well. They just make it

15:43

so much harder for themselves this

15:45

season. But I don't

15:47

really understand why Ocon

15:49

is so far down in

15:51

qualifying compared to his

15:53

teammate. I think he started

15:55

on the back row twice or three

15:57

times this year, which is... pretty mad.

15:59

So, hoping for his sake, he

16:01

can bounce back. But yeah, no such heroics

16:04

this time and was very much praying for

16:06

a safety car that did not come. The

16:08

fans gave him a five as

16:10

well. 20 seconds behind his rookie

16:12

teammate with the same grade. That's

16:14

an interesting one. Oh, Tony's feeling

16:17

a little bit ferocious there, guys.

16:19

I'm really sorry about that one.

16:21

But yes, giving the same grade is wild. Maybe

16:25

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Dylan! Start

19:01

the race in 17th. Finished. 17th.

19:06

Oh, gosh, Jack Dohan. I really

19:08

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19:10

but it is going to be

19:12

a 3 out of 10. I'm

19:14

sorry. I've done it. I'm sorry.

19:16

That feels harsh. Maybe it should

19:18

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19:20

Alpine ain't no bad car now.

19:22

We saw it with Gasly for

19:24

half a lap in the race,

19:26

but also in qualifying and last

19:28

time out. To

19:30

be to be starting 17th finishing 17th

19:32

fighting the salvers at the end.

19:35

I think he pips bought a letter

19:37

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19:39

this ain't where the car deserves to

19:42

be and I have to give him

19:44

a representative grade for that. He

19:46

said it was his one

19:48

of his most difficult combination of

19:50

things just weren't clicking. The

19:52

first didn't wasn't looking terrible. But

19:54

then of course, you know, it was

19:56

forced onto that strategy, which was

19:59

worth the gamble. None of the teams,

20:01

I'm sure, were hoping to go

20:03

49 laps on a set of tyres

20:05

and were thinking maybe there'd be

20:07

a VSC or something like that, but

20:09

still nowhere near even Stroll. He

20:11

finished like 14 seconds behind Stroll. It's

20:15

a poor weekend for Jack, sadly. It

20:17

sure is. I've gone for a three as well. It's

20:20

definitely a three. His teammate qualified

20:22

ninth. The Alpine is a good

20:24

car. it

20:26

certainly can mix it up in the

20:29

midfield, so to qualify 17th is very

20:31

poor. Of course, risked

20:33

it with an unusual strategy that

20:35

didn't work out, but you

20:37

had to finish 17th. You're only

20:39

beating a rookie in a

20:41

salber, a very disappointing weekend

20:44

for Jack Dewin. Yes, the

20:46

fans gave Jack a four.

20:48

Pierre Gasly, start of the race in ninth,

20:51

did not finish. I

20:53

have gone for... Oh,

20:57

my word. This one's difficult. Yeah.

20:59

That half a lap. How do you

21:01

grade it? How do you grade

21:03

someone that's done very well in qualifying

21:05

and then had a racing incident

21:07

that I do kind of feel like

21:09

he put himself under risk. I'm

21:11

going to give him a six just

21:13

because of that qualifying. But

21:17

you kind of his, no, I'm not. No, I'm

21:19

going to give a five. I'm going to give a

21:21

five. Good. Well done. It

21:23

is one of those ones, isn't it, where it's

21:25

difficult because You're judging

21:27

like the pace he had in the car and

21:29

obviously you didn't get to show it. He showed it

21:31

in qualifying. But yeah, I

21:33

watch it back. He puts his car

21:35

in a risky position on lap one.

21:37

It's not his fault. It's not enough

21:39

to get a penalty or penalty points

21:41

or anything like that, but it's still

21:44

a risk. And I'm still kind of,

21:46

it still annoys me that he's essentially

21:48

been punished there for trying to stay

21:50

on the track rather than just bailing

21:52

onto the runoff. And that's kind of

21:54

his downfall that he's... shamefully decided I'm

21:56

going to keep two wheels on the

21:58

racetrack and continue around. And

22:01

yeah, but unfortunately for him,

22:03

he's got a part to

22:05

play in that crash. So

22:07

I've gone for a five.

22:11

I've also gone for a five out of ten for

22:13

Pierre Gasly. It's hard to

22:15

grade him much higher for that

22:17

because we have to obviously take

22:19

into account that he hasn't done

22:21

the race, but also similarly to

22:23

you, Tommy. He's gone

22:25

for an audacious move. I

22:28

think if he was maybe three, four

22:30

car lengths, you know, if they were side

22:32

by side, three, four car lengths back,

22:34

and then he's sort of nudged ahead, Sonoda

22:37

backs out of the corner. But sadly, Gasly

22:39

sort of gets his nose ahead a little

22:41

bit too late into then the braking zone

22:43

and the turn in for that left hander.

22:46

And that's where the risk is. And

22:48

sadly, for Gasly, there's nowhere to go. If he goes

22:50

off the track, he has to give the position back

22:52

to you. He knows the rules. He knows what's going

22:55

on there. But yeah,

22:57

it's not a corner, sorry, that

22:59

you see overtakes that. You

23:01

just don't. And sadly,

23:03

for Gasly and for Sonoda,

23:05

it ended pretty badly. The

23:07

fans gave Gasly a five as

23:09

well. Lance Stroll. Start

23:12

of the race in 16th. Finished. 16th.

23:15

Give me a 4 out of 10 for Lance Stroll. I

23:18

mean, how do you even, what

23:20

do you... I don't have many words.

23:23

I mean, it was not as bad

23:25

as maybe some we've seen this

23:27

year, but also he is Aston Martin's

23:30

sole point scorer, which I will

23:32

keep reminding you every single podcast episode,

23:34

Tommy, until it changes. But,

23:37

you know, Hülkenberg versus Stroll, Battle

23:39

of the Ages for P15. They

23:42

finished 9 tenths apart. It's

23:45

not an absolutely horrific weekend because then

23:47

you look, he's finished 25 seconds behind Alonso.

23:49

That's why it's going to be a

23:51

four because I think Alonso did a pretty

23:53

decent job. So yeah. I've

23:56

gone for... Oh, you were going to give

23:58

him a three, but now changing. No, I

24:00

wasn't. It's actually a five in my sheet

24:02

and I'm wondering whether it is a four.

24:04

Well, unless Alonso is a 10, that is

24:07

really not representative. Spoiler alert! No,

24:11

I won't go for a four because he's qualified.

24:13

Paulie again, the Aston Martin for

24:15

me is a woeful carp.

24:17

Where'd you place it? In

24:19

my opinion, there's probably only the Salba

24:22

that's worse, but then it kind of is

24:24

very close in that midfield battle. Qualified

24:26

Paulie again, which is kind of

24:28

no surprise. But

24:30

yeah, now I'm kind of convincing myself

24:32

that it is a four because Essentially

24:35

two of the front runners have gone

24:37

out the race and he's still finished

24:39

in the same position and a poor

24:41

position that he qualified in compared to

24:43

his teammate. And

24:45

actually, I've got something that I just

24:47

want to say about his qualifying

24:49

because I know a lot of people

24:51

were... Tommy fights back. I've bought

24:54

some receipts because I know a lot

24:56

of people were basically... onto

24:58

my comments saying I think Lance Troll is

25:00

one of the worst qualifiers in the history

25:02

of Formula One and saying, but he's got

25:04

a pole position. So

25:06

I actually found the head to head

25:08

with his teammates throughout his entire

25:10

career and I will read them to

25:12

you now. Oh please, this will

25:14

be good listening. 2025 so far. Fernando

25:16

Alonso is 5 -1 up even though

25:18

Alonso is finished and has no

25:20

points this season of course and isn't

25:22

too old for Formula One if

25:24

you listen to Twitter. one? It

25:27

was the sprint in China.

25:29

Doesn't count. 2024,

25:32

again, against a Fernando Alonso in the

25:34

twilight of his career. 19 -5

25:37

to Fernando Alonso. 2023,

25:41

the year of the Aston Martin was actually good. 19

25:43

-3 to Fernando Alonso. Alonso

25:46

had 20 appearances in Q3.

25:48

Lance had eight. Alonso was

25:50

knocked out in Q1 once. Lance was

25:52

knocked out seven times. 2022,

25:54

Sebastian Vettel, arguably

25:57

not at his

25:59

best, you know, as

26:01

he was near retirement. Vettel

26:04

still beat him 13 -7. Niko

26:06

Hülkenberg fancied a go in the Uttar Martin

26:08

when Vettel got Covid and Stroll still didn't

26:10

beat him in the head to head. It

26:12

was one all. Head

26:14

-to -head in 2021, it

26:17

was 14 -8 to Vettel.

26:19

2020, Perez, 10,

26:22

Stroll 4. Nico

26:24

Holkenberg also had a couple

26:27

of races and it was

26:29

one -all. You know,

26:31

people quick to jump on the Stroll got

26:33

a pole position and had a pretty

26:35

good season. Then Nico Holkenberg jumped in the

26:37

cart with no experience and got a

26:39

P3 at Silverstone. So make

26:41

of that one, you will. Is that

26:43

the slander? Are we going all the

26:46

way back 1997? 2019 Sergio Perez, 17 -3

26:48

on Stroll. And you're probably

26:50

thinking at this point, well, he's had

26:52

very difficult teammates. Sergei

26:54

Seropkin as a rookie, 12,

26:57

Lance Troll, 8. So he

26:59

didn't even beat a rookie Sergei Seropkin.

27:02

And 2017, 17 -2 to Massa. I

27:04

rest my case. Oh my goodness

27:06

gracious me. We should rename this podcast

27:08

to the slander of Lance Troll.

27:10

Or just factual information. It's interesting. You've

27:12

brought receipts and I think it

27:14

tells... It works in your favour, but

27:16

also works against you because you

27:18

did claim that he's the worst qualifier

27:20

ever, which I don't think is

27:22

true, even by said probably the worst

27:24

qualifier ever. Don't

27:26

be throwing in semantics, but

27:28

that's what people have heard. Obviously,

27:31

he's not a great qualifier by any stretch

27:33

the imagination. one the worst of all time. So,

27:35

there you go. One of the worst of all time.

27:37

Okay, Tommy's still backing it. But anyway, that's

27:39

great. Well, I'm glad that that... was

27:41

something we dived into at Lance Troll.

27:43

Where were we? Even were we? Did

27:45

you say your grade? Yes, I did.

27:47

Okay, brilliant. Right, the fans gave Lance

27:50

Troll a four as well. Fernando

27:52

Alonso started the race in 13th, finished

27:54

11th. And before you get into that,

27:56

Tommy, have you got an entire qualifying

27:58

record of Fernando Alonso as well that

28:00

would date back to 1998 or wherever

28:02

you drive Yeah, yeah. What was it,

28:04

20 -0 against Van Dorn? Only

28:08

driver to white watch the teammate twice,

28:10

but we could go on and I've

28:12

gone for an out of 10 Fernando

28:14

Alonso He has finished p11 in a

28:16

tractor. I think it's the ninth best

28:18

car on the grid would have been

28:20

p12 without that stupid penalty The desired

28:22

penalty for Lawson, know, even

28:24

if you give it a five second

28:26

penalty is still finished behind him And

28:28

eight may seem high because he's not

28:30

got points, but I'm looking at all

28:32

the cars that's ahead of him And

28:35

he shouldn't be ahead of them. And

28:37

I'm looking at all cars behind him.

28:39

And even then, you know, I think

28:41

the RB is quicker. I think the

28:43

house is probably quicker. He's smashed his

28:45

teammate and qualified incredibly well. So there

28:47

we go. OK. Wow.

28:49

Tommy is really popping off it.

28:52

I'm split between the seven and an eight

28:54

because I feel like the Fernando Lanzo glazing

28:56

there is crazy. Lance

29:03

Stroll is pretty poor. Are we

29:05

really giving him four grades higher for

29:07

25 seconds down the road? Yeah,

29:10

go on then. 8 out of 10. Well

29:12

done, Fernando. It's a very slim 8 out

29:14

of 10 for Fernando Alonso. He's just crept

29:16

over the line, but he has done a

29:18

pretty decent job this weekend. It's more the

29:20

Fernando Alonso that we want to see. Sadly,

29:23

no points to bank,

29:25

but I think it's coming.

29:28

If Aston do actually give him

29:30

a car that isn't the ninth

29:32

fastest he will score a point

29:34

or two So yeah eight out

29:36

of ten for me for Fernando

29:38

the fans gave him a seven

29:40

Kimi Antonelli start the race in

29:42

fifth finish sixth. I

29:44

am going to give Kimi Antonelli a

29:46

Seven out of ten. It's

29:48

a reasonable weekend for for Kimi

29:51

Still lacking pace compared to George

29:53

Russell I know he caught him

29:55

hand over fist towards the end.

29:57

Russell was, of course, managing, trying

29:59

to fight for the win or

30:01

a podium and cooked his tyres.

30:03

And I think that's more down

30:05

to his grade that we'll get

30:07

into as well. But I think

30:09

Seven perfectly represents what Kimmy is

30:11

performing at right now. He's doing

30:13

a decent job in a Mercedes.

30:16

He's not getting knocked out in

30:18

Q1 or anything like that.

30:20

He's qualifying well. He's

30:22

doing everything I think is

30:24

expected of him. It's no

30:26

headline worthy stuff, especially this

30:28

weekend. But it is more than

30:30

good enough for Mercedes to get excited. So yeah,

30:32

I'm going for a seven. I

30:35

have gone for an eight out of

30:37

ten for Kimmy Antonelli. Shock. Shock

30:39

because it's correct. Seven

30:42

seconds off his very experienced teammate.

30:44

We've said so many times this weekend

30:46

that Saudi is an incredibly difficult

30:48

circuit to go to as a rookie.

30:54

He's there on the back of his

30:56

teammate. He wasn't quicker than him, of

30:58

course, but he's the inexperienced one. And

31:01

bagged more points for Mercedes,

31:03

qualified well up in P5.

31:06

He's delivering this season, I

31:09

think. I've

31:15

gone for an 8 out of 10

31:17

for George Russell as well. I

31:19

don't think the Mercedes was there

31:21

this weekend, but still got a decent

31:23

result. with a P5, qualified

31:26

brilliantly again, but just

31:28

couldn't look after his

31:30

tyres in the race.

31:33

But yeah, it's a decent performance from

31:35

from George again, and it kind of

31:38

continues that record of always being in

31:40

the top five. And yeah, I think

31:42

definitely one of the the drivers of

31:44

the season this year. I've

31:46

gone for a seven out of 10 for George. Of

31:48

course, he did finish ahead of his

31:51

teammate qualified ahead of his teammate. But

31:53

Factoring in that Kimmy is of course

31:55

a rookie there. So I've gone for

31:57

the same grade for both of them

31:59

He himself said after the race that

32:01

the performance was pretty underwhelming and so

32:03

It's it's definitely a seven out of

32:05

ten for me. He finished over I

32:07

think 18 seconds behind Norris in the

32:09

end at nowhere near the front four

32:12

But it's still solid points. He's still

32:14

a very small shout for a dark

32:16

horse for the championship So

32:18

yeah, George, 7 out of 10 for me

32:20

and the fans gave him a 7 as well.

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TNC's apply. Yuki

34:15

Sanoda. Started the race in eighth,

34:18

did not finish. Yuki.

34:20

It's a five out of 10. I'm going to

34:22

go for exactly the same as Pierre Gasly. It's

34:25

an unfortunate thing to have happened. Maybe Yuki

34:27

didn't expect Pierre to try and swing it

34:29

around the outside, but I can't give him

34:31

any higher than that. It wasn't like he

34:33

qualified on the front row. And

34:35

the most of our grade is

34:38

based on the race and he

34:40

didn't finish. So it's not through

34:42

any massive thought of his own.

34:45

So yeah, 5 out of 10. I've also gone

34:47

for a 5 out of 10. Disappointing

34:49

for Yuki because it would have been

34:51

nice to see what he could have done

34:53

in the race. Because although he was

34:55

a long way behind his teammate in terms

34:58

of lap time, P8

35:00

is a grid. When

35:02

you get the second

35:04

Red Bull seat into

35:06

single digits, it

35:08

feels like quite a win these days. Yeah,

35:12

there's a lovely gap for him to just

35:14

finish in eighth. Exactly, yeah. Hamilton

35:16

and Science just chill out, get four

35:18

points, lovely stuff. Exactly, but alas, it

35:20

all came undone at the first corner

35:22

and yeah, a racing incident. The

35:24

fans gave him a five. Max

35:27

Verstappen started the

35:29

race in first, finished

35:31

second. I have gone

35:34

for a nine out of ten for

35:36

Max Verstappen. I think maybe

35:38

he is the victim of his own

35:40

success here because he's not driving the

35:42

best car, I think is the best

35:44

car this weekend, for sure. Much better

35:46

than it was in Bahrain. But,

35:49

you know, he's still

35:51

got a brilliant pole

35:53

position, finished 2 .8

35:55

seconds off the lead

35:57

and, you know, beating

35:59

his teammate by... a

36:02

second in qualifying. And

36:04

this is where that I think,

36:06

yeah, maybe is a victim of his

36:09

own success, but you're so used

36:11

to Max delivering that any time the

36:13

car can deliver a win, he

36:15

gets that win. And I've got to

36:17

think that had he made the

36:19

start legally, what have you, what have

36:22

you think based on that kind

36:24

of turn one incident, or

36:26

just made a better start and led

36:28

the race, I think he would

36:30

have won because the dirty air was

36:32

so poor, he could have pitted

36:34

and stayed ahead of Piastri and we

36:36

could have looked at something similar

36:38

to Suzuki. But alas, he

36:41

didn't, so gone for a nine. Well,

36:44

are we about to disagree? No,

36:46

we're not. Nine out of ten for Max Verstappen. I

36:49

still think it was a

36:52

Brilliant weekend from Max. Yes, there

36:54

was the turn one incident which

36:56

we've gone into. It's funny

36:59

that there's a lot more discussion

37:01

online than perhaps I or you

37:03

probably thought there would be considering

37:05

who was at fault. Should Max

37:07

have got a penalty? There's been

37:09

telemetry flying around and saying that

37:11

Oscar took more speed into turn

37:13

one than Max did and all

37:15

of this sort of stuff that

37:17

I still to this very moment

37:19

believe Max deserve that penalty and. I

37:22

don't think any sort of levels of telemetry or

37:24

think just use your eyes. You can see exactly what

37:26

happened. You can see that he wasn't going to

37:28

stay on the track. No, you only

37:30

need to look at screenshots that tell nothing.

37:32

Sorry, yeah, the non -moving screenshots. I don't know

37:34

how anybody, even with telemetry, are trying to

37:36

suggest that he was going to stay on

37:39

the track. I genuinely don't get it. But

37:41

it's still a 9 out of 10 for

37:43

Max, because apart from that... And we're not

37:45

talking about the spirit of the sport, because

37:47

maybe he wouldn't get a 9 out of

37:49

10 for that move. But in terms of

37:51

his actual performance, the strategy

37:53

of the fact he still led the race,

37:55

had wonderful clean air, enjoyed that first dint

37:57

brilliantly, and then still finished,

37:59

what, 2 .8 seconds off the win. It's

38:02

a very lovely performance. And

38:04

yeah, Max Verstappen, 9 out

38:06

of 10. And the fans

38:08

gave him a 9 as

38:10

well. Lewis Hamilton

38:13

started the race in seventh finished

38:15

seventh Goodness goodness goodness trying

38:17

to think of what a fair

38:19

grade is for Hamilton It

38:21

is going to be it has

38:23

to be a five out

38:25

of ten it does I think

38:27

that was one of the

38:29

most mediocre Hamilton performances that I've

38:32

seen in a while nowhere

38:34

in qualifying compared to his teammate

38:36

nowhere in the race at

38:38

any point it felt like i

38:40

saw some some people looking

38:42

again into telemetry of hamilton and

38:44

into sort of the first

38:46

stages of his stints and it

38:49

seems as though he's over

38:51

managing the tires compared to charl

38:53

when you look at places

38:55

where he's lifting off slightly compared

38:57

to his teammate and this

38:59

was yet just one of those

39:01

performances that will want to

39:03

be forgotten about. immediately.

39:07

Because, yeah, being beaten by not just his

39:09

teammate, but Norris, of course, but then

39:11

both the Mercedes as well. Yeah,

39:13

it was a completely and utterly

39:15

baffling weekend for Hamilton, because you

39:17

expect, okay, poor, poor quality, but

39:19

he comes back in the race,

39:21

might finish five seconds behind Leclerc

39:23

and where he started. But no,

39:26

just, just nowhere. He

39:28

was nowhere. Yeah, I've gone for a five as

39:30

well. Really poor weekend for

39:32

Hamilton. Has to

39:34

be the worst that we've seen of

39:36

him in a long time and

39:38

it's a shame to see because there

39:40

was so much hype and expectation

39:42

him going to Ferrari had that brilliant

39:44

sprint win and you thought okay

39:46

This is you know, Lewis Hamilton is

39:48

gonna bounce back after maybe the

39:50

the troubles that he had last year

39:52

but You know said so this

39:54

many times that I don't think Saudi

39:56

is his best circuit arguably maybe

39:59

even one of his worst Qualifying to

40:01

qualify behind Carlos Sainz was a

40:03

headline that didn't need to didn't want

40:05

to happen that you know you

40:07

have not wanted to happen as the

40:09

kind of driver that he kind

40:11

of kicked out to get the Ferrari

40:13

seat. And then yeah to

40:15

have no pace. You

40:17

can look at it and go

40:19

always seventh, but you know, I

40:22

kind of take it back to a

40:24

certain Sergio Perez and how many times

40:26

we gave him back grades of finishing

40:28

30 seconds behind his teammate and you

40:30

have to. do the same thing here.

40:32

So it's a five. The

40:35

fans gave Hamilton a six. Charlotte

40:37

Clair started the race and fourth finished

40:40

third. I've gone for a

40:42

nine out of ten just to see

40:44

Matt's reaction because it's a ten. The

40:48

way you just baited

40:50

me. I was about

40:53

to lose it. Oh,

40:56

that went to him better than I thought. I think

40:58

I've done that once and you didn't even fall for

41:00

it. But no, it's a 10. It's got to be

41:02

a 10. You cannot

41:04

say that Charlotte Clair did

41:06

not deliver everything from that

41:08

Ferrari. It shouldn't

41:10

be on the podium.

41:12

It is slower than

41:15

the Mercedes this year. Max

41:17

is an anomaly, so it's hard

41:20

to grade where he is, but

41:22

slower than the McLarens. It

41:24

was brilliant from Leclerc. More

41:27

of what we expect from him. To

41:29

put 30 seconds on your world champion,

41:31

you know, seven -time world champion and

41:33

statistical goatee teammate as well. Just a

41:35

sensational drive. And as I said about

41:37

Hamilton, this being one of his worst

41:40

seconds, I feel like this is one

41:42

of Charle Leclerc's best. He always performs

41:44

well here. Oh, we

41:46

love to hear it from Tom

41:48

Bellingham and it come in directly

41:50

out of his vocal box. I've

41:52

gone for a 10 out of

41:54

10 as well for Charle. Just

41:56

perfection. An absolutely perfect weekend for

41:58

Charles. Fourth, he says,

42:00

is the best he could have

42:02

done. And I firmly believe

42:04

that when you're clear of your

42:06

teammate by quite some margin. And

42:09

then in the race, I

42:11

thought we were in big trouble

42:13

with Lando on mediums, coming out

42:15

only four or five seconds, I

42:17

think, behind Charles when Lando pitted. But

42:20

he managed to hold on. finished eight

42:22

seconds off the win. You're then wondering, come

42:24

on Ferrari, unlock a little bit more

42:26

quality performance for my boy, Charles, and then

42:28

we could be cooking. But

42:31

it's still a 10. And

42:33

it was a nice one. Nice

42:35

to see that. But I want to

42:37

raise our expectations slightly as a

42:39

Charles Leclerc fan that third place, we

42:41

need that to become second, to

42:43

become first place. Thank you very much.

42:45

The fans gave him a 10

42:47

as well. Oscar Piastri,

42:49

start the race and second finish first. It

42:52

is going to be 7 out of

42:54

10. Oscar Piastri. He bled the brakes

42:56

off into turn one. Horrible movement. I'm

42:58

kidding. I'm kidding. It's, of course, a

43:01

10 out of 10 for Oscar Piastri.

43:03

Wow. Wow, wow, wow. Oscar

43:06

Piastri this year. You are

43:08

cooking, sir. He's delivering consistently

43:10

at a level that is good

43:12

enough to win a world championship

43:14

hands down. his teammate is

43:16

faltering ever so slightly in moments in qualifying

43:18

and putting himself on the back foot.

43:20

And of course, his teammate did do a

43:22

decent recovery drive, but Oscar hasn't had

43:24

to do a recovery drive yet because he's

43:26

putting the car where it belongs. And

43:29

this is why he's picked up

43:31

three wins already this year and is

43:33

now the championship leader. How can

43:35

you fault him for that? Oscar is

43:37

still learning and he's still getting

43:39

quicker, but he's also delivering whilst he's

43:41

learning. And that's the important thing

43:43

here. How will Oscar now Deliver

43:46

knowing he's the championship leader

43:48

and the thing is right. We

43:50

all go eyes unflappable. He

43:52

is So cool so calm so

43:54

collected We don't know we

43:56

don't know how Oscar Piastri feels

43:59

because he doesn't give anything

44:01

away He might well be the

44:03

most nervous man ever on

44:05

the front row of the grid

44:07

Challenging Max Verstappen into turn

44:09

one, but he doesn't show it

44:11

and that is such an

44:13

important thing I think When

44:16

you're against other fantastic drivers is that you

44:18

don't know how they feel. And

44:20

Oscar just seems to be bulletproof at the

44:23

moment. And that is exactly how he should

44:25

be for the rest of the year if

44:27

he wants to win his first world title.

44:30

Yeah, I've gone for a 10 as well for

44:32

Oscar Piastri. It's not

44:34

the kind of dominant drive

44:36

that he had last time,

44:38

but made the move into

44:40

turn one forceful. did

44:43

to Max Verstappen, what Max Verstappen would

44:45

do to any other driver of course. And

44:48

yeah, in the race as

44:50

well, didn't get flustered.

44:52

I think other drivers, you

44:55

know, you maybe could have seen on the radio

44:57

going, this is a joke of a penalty. You

44:59

need to give the position back. I'm losing time

45:01

in the dirty air. How many times would we

45:03

maybe have seen that? But Oscar

45:05

just kind of did what he needed to

45:07

do. And then even when he

45:09

kind of came out the pits, that movie put

45:11

on Hamilton. was ballsy to

45:13

say the least and crucial

45:15

because, you know, you don't

45:17

want to get stuck behind

45:20

someone throughout the middle sector

45:22

where it's difficult to overtake

45:24

and then just won the

45:26

race, takes the lead of

45:28

the championship and doesn't elaborate

45:30

because he's just a chill

45:32

guy. And

45:35

yeah, he's just driving

45:37

so, so well. It's

45:39

insane. He really is.

45:42

The fans, unsurprisingly, gave him a 10 out

45:44

of 10 as well. Lando

45:46

Norris started the race in 10th, finished

45:48

fourth. It's

45:50

another difficult Lando grade,

45:52

and I'm going for a

45:54

6 out of 10. The

45:58

qualifying, you know, he's crashed,

46:00

finished 10th, he's driving the best car, he had

46:02

the pace to win the Grand Prix, and he's not

46:04

even on the podium, which is why

46:06

it's a 6 for me. He

46:09

spent... Far too long passing Lewis Hamilton,

46:11

which would have gotten the podium to

46:13

kind of get done by a DRS

46:15

tactic twice Kind of expected bet better

46:17

race craft from him. He had the

46:19

pace to to do incredibly well this

46:21

weekend and You know, you may go

46:23

Oh, you know, he's got fastest lap

46:25

and he had great pace and he's

46:27

only finished nine seconds behind his teammate

46:29

But he's driving the car that should

46:31

have won the race and he had

46:33

the pace to win the race and

46:36

he's not on the podium So, you

46:38

know, we've we've given people

46:40

for, you know, fives

46:42

for being average, but he's underperformed

46:44

by three places. So gone for

46:46

a six. Okay, I'm

46:48

not going to be as harsh. I've gone for a

46:50

seven out of 10 for Lando. I think

46:52

it was, you know, I'm grading it as a, he

46:54

should have won. He had the pace to win. We

46:56

saw it. We see it in practice. But

46:59

practice is not where you score points. Yeah,

47:02

he's still finished fourth, nine seconds off the lead.

47:04

And that's why I've gone for a seven. It's

47:09

just another one of those

47:11

weekends, sadly, for Lando that,

47:13

you know, a small error has

47:15

cost him dearly. I

47:18

think it was a very solid recovery

47:20

drive from Lando. I think it was the

47:22

correct decision to start on the hards,

47:24

go long and try and make the best

47:26

of a bad situation. It's

47:28

not an absolute disaster. He's

47:31

10 points behind going into

47:33

Miami. I

47:35

just can't grade him any harsher than a

47:37

seven. Um, because yeah, it was one,

47:40

one small error, but either or it's not

47:42

a good enough weekend for Lando if

47:44

he wants to win the world championship. He

47:48

shows his potential and something is interesting

47:50

that he said after it was after

47:52

the race, I think it was, uh,

47:54

that McLaren show more in practice than

47:56

anyone else. And that's something that, to

47:58

be fair, does link up because we

48:00

see them after FB three and we're

48:03

like, wow, let's seven

48:05

tents clear game over. Then you go

48:07

to qualifying. And it's

48:09

close. It has been close

48:11

every single qualifying session really. I

48:13

think I saw that I

48:15

think four of the five

48:18

qualifying sessions we've seen have

48:20

been like 0 .0 something.

48:22

Ridiculous. So I do believe

48:24

that McLaren are quickest. I

48:26

don't believe that they are

48:28

as far ahead as some

48:30

people like to put them.

48:32

They are the quickest car.

48:34

There is a beautiful opportunity

48:36

to score one twos every

48:38

weekend at the moment. So

48:41

finishing fourth, sadly, has to be

48:43

put down as a disappointment. But still

48:45

a good recovery drive, I will

48:47

say, as a positive side of things

48:49

for Lando. That's why it's

48:51

a seven. The fans gave him a

48:53

seven as well. And

48:55

that is it. Who is our

48:58

P1? Charlotte Clair. Not

49:00

even a moment's hesitation. What a

49:02

driver. What a man. What

49:04

a human. Just

49:06

brilliant all around Delivered every

49:08

single moment of the weekend

49:10

and scored a sensational p3.

49:12

Thank you for coming Mine

49:14

is Fernando along notes. No,

49:16

not. It's of course. It's

49:18

Charlotte Claire. Yeah, brilliant from

49:20

Charles. This is I say

49:22

it's more what I want

49:24

to see for him, but

49:26

And you know despite our

49:28

kind of banter and everything He

49:31

deserves a better car to be fighting at

49:33

the front because that's better for Formula One.

49:37

He's one of those drivers that can

49:39

race incredibly well as well. So you

49:41

kind of want to see it and

49:43

the more people at the front, the

49:45

better. So that was a race where

49:47

he kind of showed, look, I

49:49

can win races and championships if

49:52

you just give me the machinery. Unfortunately

49:54

at the moment, he does not

49:56

have that. He does not

49:58

but he will one day and

50:00

he'll win everything. That is the plan

50:02

2047 is 2026. That is our

50:04

year. Thank you everybody for listening and

50:07

watching to this driver ratings. I

50:09

hope you've enjoyed it. It's always fun

50:11

to drop some grades and see

50:13

what you all think as well. So

50:15

what are your final thoughts? Final

50:18

thoughts are that it's

50:20

going to be weird to

50:22

have a week break

50:24

now between another race. For

50:27

everyone to know what they're doing,

50:29

I feel, having the kind of

50:31

three races in a row that

50:33

now kind of so used to

50:35

it. Week breaks feel like

50:37

forever. But of course, when we get

50:39

back, we will have a sprint weekend

50:41

again, which of course makes driver ratings

50:43

really easy to grade. Thumbs

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up for audio listeners. Thumbs

50:47

up for a lot of audio listeners. There you go.

50:49

Thank you, everybody. We'll see you very soon. Lots of love.

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