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Welcome to and a tremendously busy week
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on the from the horses mouth podcast feed
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because punch time festival is upon us and
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I've got Rory's largan I've got Ruby Walsh
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looking head to the first day before we
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crack into it a reminder a really, really
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excellent show is available to watch on the
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Paddypair racing YouTube channel Patrick Mullins Ruby Walsh
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going through what I must say I forgot
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how many good winners Patrick had written at
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that particular festival when he needed to dig
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it out for his dad in the champion
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trainer title the Irish one a few seasons
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ago really good watch and available and all
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Also, daily shows, as you can probably tell, for
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the festival. A quick check in with the lads, Roy
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DeLarge. How are you? Grands, all
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together. Where are you? I'm
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at the Aerolingis Lounge at
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Heathrow Terminal 2, within
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the capture flight, Dublin.
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Are we under time pressure then? Do we need
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to be finished in the next 20 minutes?
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Is that it? No, I got myself here early,
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so I could take full advantage of the
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lounge facilities. Is there anything sweeter than an airport
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point? I don't see a point in front
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of you. No, no. Just
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an annoyance juice. Very
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good, PK.
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Excellent. Thank you very much. Congratulations to
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the team. After the big
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win on Saturday, you were
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watching from Navin. Did it feel a little bit like you
1:21
were away from the party or are you okay? No,
1:23
PK. Too many chefs by the pot
1:25
when the pressure's on, so no, the work
1:27
was done. Excellent stuff. Excellent stuff.
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Well, well done, Turbin and the team. Great to
1:31
see Gronje was over there and enjoying it.
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Well deserved. Right, lads, let's crack on. Punches Town
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Day 1. We are not going to talk
1:37
about the farmers race. But if you find the
1:39
winner, well done. That's the 230. But
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we are going to talk. Actually, I wasn't on
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the running order, the 305. I did ask the guys.
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Okay, why are you talking about the farmers race?
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It's on Friday. Oh, sure. Yeah,
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that's not the farmers race.
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It's not the farmers race. It's 230. I'm looking
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at. No, that's the lilies preparation. Oh,
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the banks race. already
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got it wrong already didn't take me long
2:00
the lads didn't take me long but didn't
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take ruby long to interrupt first banks race of
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the festival starts at 230 folks the farmers
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race not to frighten the for the bishops court
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cup but we will talk about the albert
2:11
Bartlett series handicap final and not the albert Bartlett
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grade one series and that's the 305 rory
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nice and quick here because you did say do
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you know what actually kind of fancy one
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of this and we've got extra places Yeah, it's
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not easy for us back home to find
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out what's on RTE in the first place, but
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I had a look at the
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The Albert Bartlett Crimes series final
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and I liked the chances of
2:32
one of the English raiders, Blue
2:34
Hop for Ben Brookhouse. He's
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booked Richard Blackmore to ride this
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soldier of fortune who's always had
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plenty of talent, but he's been
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He's spent a fair bit of time on the sidelines,
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but he's really got his eye together this season.
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He's put five runs together, which he struggled to do
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in the past, and he's got better with each
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one of them. He's won two of his last three,
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and to be honest, he won at least as
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well in between when finishing second in a red -hot
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handicap at ASCA, the Stone Ups future winners. That
3:00
was over almost three miles. His win at
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Doncaster was over three miles, but he didn't look
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at all short of speed over two mile
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five, or whether we last time went when he
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won very easily. From lesser
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opposition, it must be said, but I thought the
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handicapper could have put him up more than
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he has. He's gone up from 116 to 121
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for that. I think that's very,
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very fair indeed. And I think he comes here
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at the top of his game, and he will
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go very well for Ben and Roger Berkes. And
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I see Paddy Perr, Ambassador Harry Cobbton
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has picked up a spare ride on
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that race on Bright Legend for Dennis
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Hogan. So his plea to everyone to
3:33
say, I'm around, I'm available, it's
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worked. He's got a ride in the first
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non -banks race at the festival, right onto
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the 340. Another extra place to race.
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Ruby, you're coming in here. Five places instead of
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the four. Lark in the morning. Favourite,
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it's a listed race to kill a
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sheet of handicap hurdle. But realistically, this is
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kind of like your county handicap hurdle
3:52
at Punchdown. It's red hot. Loads of Chelten
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Festival form, Ancient Festival form, and loads
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of British runners as well. Yeah, PKM, without
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the British runners, you wouldn't even have
4:00
each betting on the first four here. Only
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17 runners, a mark of 121 gets
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in, so contrary to the myth. that the
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top horses are running Irish racing, the
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supplier horses from the middle to the bottom
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is not in great shape either. And
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it's a big concern, you look at
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the rest of race, they can't fill and
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wouldn't have each web betting for four
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places without the English runners. I think that's
4:22
alarm bells myself. As regards the
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winner of the race, which is much more important to
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our listeners, I think Larkin
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the Morning myself, obviously disappointed in Sheldon in the
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County Hurdle. That said, was only beaten nine entry
4:32
parts of the length. It wasn't beaten a country
4:34
mile. I do think he's on a mark. He's
4:36
more than capable of winning a good race off.
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And Sean and Bernadine Mulroney love a winner. I'll
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punch us up. No, who doesn't? But yes, they
4:43
do indeed. Larkin the Morning goes in for Ruby.
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Rory? Going yielding this off at the moment officially
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from what I've seen, but it's going to be
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trying out, isn't it? We're going to be going
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to be good to yielding by the time we
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kick off here. I would have thought that's a
4:55
question rather than a statement. Ruby,
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would you agree? Not far from the track. It's
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been well watered, Rory. It'll be
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on the slow side. They've a lot of
5:04
water put on this track in the March, early
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April. They've kept the moisture deep at the
5:08
ground. So when the rain came then in mid
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-April, it just topped it up nicely and they've
5:12
been added since. So no, it will be
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on the slow side. There's no doubt about that.
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I know he's one arm, obviously in the softer
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grind, but Larkin the mornings always had this reputation
5:21
of being a horse who wants it fairly quick. I
5:24
was with him in the in the county hurdle,
5:26
which was a really messy race. As
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you said, he finished 14th, was only beaten nine
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and a half lengths. An
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Irish panther ran there as well and finished a tenth,
5:35
beating seven lengths. I thought he ran okay. I
5:37
thought a lot of horses ran okay and that race
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was just in there. in the wrong position the way
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it panned out. I was
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sweet on Irish panther in his previous
5:45
start at the Dublin Racing Festival when
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he was a very good third in
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the Liffey handicap, but a similar race
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to this. And I think his
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run style again will enable him to get involved
5:55
here. He'll be a double figure prize with Cain Cullinan
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riding again. I don't think
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Irish panther from in each way, there's plenty you can give
6:01
a chance to here, but from an each way perspective,
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I think Irish panther will again get my vote. Absolutely.
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And as I said, we've got five
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places on that big handicap hurdle. Irish
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Panther, Frank Kiki, are you listening? He's
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always had a soft spot for that
6:14
horse. Onto the first of the
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grade ones, the novice hurdle will get things
6:18
underway for grade one. Backers and fans, Copic
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to board, tops the market, known certain terms,
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two to five, favorite with Paul Book. Salvador
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Mundi. is 3 -1. Patrick gets the ride
6:26
there. Iran C is 7 -1 for Mark Walsh.
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Willie also has Carabout, 16 -1, and Gordon
6:30
Elliott and Jim Bulger with a couple of
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triple figure price horses. So I guess, Ruby,
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I'm going to have to bring you straight
6:37
back in, copy to board, since Chattelham all
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been A -1. That is P .K. and there's
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no reason to believe that he won't actually
6:43
have improved for his run at Cheltenham. When
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you look at his jump and how much
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it improved from Christmas to the DRF and
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it was better again at Cheltenham. He's been
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in great form at home. I have no
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worries about the track, the direction, anything like
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that for him. He seems to be in
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really good order. I do accept Salvatore Mundi
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improved hugely from Cheltenham to entry, but I
7:01
think this is another level again and I
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do think Colpeg de Mordel will be really
7:05
difficult to beat. Will Salvatore follow him home,
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you think? He's the most likely one, yeah.
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Okay, all right. So the market has a
7:11
right according to Ruby. Rory? Yeah, I
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can't disagree with any of that. I do
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think Salvatore Monday will finish a lot closer
7:17
than he did. But again, as Ruby says,
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Kobe to board just seems to be a
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horse who's just beginning to come to himself
7:24
now. It's not like he was in a
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really good early season. Obviously, you're hoping we'll
7:28
stretch to the end of the year. He
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was transformed, current
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year, in February at Leopardstown.
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Did it very nicely. in
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a good race at Cheltenham and should
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do it again. I can see Salvatore
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Mande finishing. I mean, how far was
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he beating 18 lengths at Cheltenham? I
7:45
can see him finishing within five, but
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I don't see him beating Copic to
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board on this Copic to board. Fluffs
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his lines and I see no obvious
7:55
reason for that. So there's not much of
7:57
an angle here. You've got a two
7:59
to five favourite, a three to one second
8:01
favourite, but they really should finish first
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and second in that order. All right. straight
8:05
forecast easy peasy lads in the first
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of the grade one second is the duly
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insurance group champion novice chase over three
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miles in a furlong and we've got the
8:13
the chalem victor lecky watson but
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he's not favourite. Ballyburn is 11
8:17
-8 favourite with Paul Towne in
8:19
books. 94 Lecky Watson and Perry
8:21
Pass is 9 -2. Gorgeous Tom 10s
8:23
and 12 -1 Slade Steel and
8:25
Stellar Story. Rory, you can
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go first here. I suppose casual racing fans
8:29
who may be tuned in for Cheltenham
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and only Cheltenham will be going, why is
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Lecky Watson a bigger price than Ballyburn? Indeed.
8:38
And it's not a bad question, to be
8:40
perfectly honest. I'm going to
8:42
start with Lecky Watson here, but I think he might even drift
8:44
further than he is at the moment. What
8:46
are the prices currently? So 11 -way, probably we're
8:48
in 9 -4 Lecky Watson at the moment. And
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we're recording, by the way, I should times
8:52
that, Monday at noon. Lecky Watson
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I think is more likely to start 4 -1 than he
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is 9 -4. I think people will
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generally be against him. I
9:01
see time for him to take the view
9:03
that he was flattered by a test
9:05
of speed in the in
9:07
the broad way at Cheltenham last time.
9:09
I've got no issue with him staying
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at all. I think the big difference
9:13
between Lecky Watson this year and Lecky
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Watson last year is that fences have
9:17
enabled him to settle, or just being
9:19
a little bit older, have enabled him
9:22
to settle. He used to wear a
9:24
hood all the time. He used to
9:26
pull very hard and still run good
9:28
races against the best around. Now he
9:30
doesn't pull. He's very tractable. As a
9:32
rule, he jumps very well. And
9:34
I don't think the trip is an issue at
9:36
all. I know most of his former events has been
9:38
over shorter, but I think a test of stamina
9:41
over three miles will suit him better than most in
9:43
this field. Yes, if Barry
9:45
Byrne comes back to the form he
9:47
showed when winning at the DRF, he'll
9:49
be hard enough to beat, but he
9:51
still needs to prove that stamina for
9:53
beyond three miles. I know he's bred
9:55
for it, but he is a free
9:57
goer and he doesn't save himself much
9:59
in that regard. He has looked brilliant
10:01
at his best and I do fear
10:03
him, but I've always liked
10:05
Leckie Watson, I'm not going to dissert him
10:07
now. What
10:33
do you think? It probably has PK and I
10:35
was in the race that I could come down
10:37
with on any one side. Definitely.
10:39
I think Imperial Past improved for the application
10:41
of cheekpieces at entry, thought he jumped
10:43
and travelled much better than he had done
10:45
in the past. Lucky Watson seems to
10:47
be fulfilling the potential that Rory always thought
10:49
he had and he most certainly is
10:51
a better chaser than he was hardler and
10:54
has mentally grown up a lot. But
10:56
I do think a lot of things went
10:58
against Ballet -Burn and Cheltenham. Look,
11:00
I can see why Paul Townan did. ride him
11:02
the way he rode him. Arguably
11:04
on paper, he was the fastest horse in the
11:06
race and he rode him for speed, but there went
11:08
no gallop. It completely backfired. He was too free.
11:10
He never got jumping. And I
11:12
think on the different tactics, at least
11:14
we'll find out tomorrow what he
11:16
is. And I wouldn't decide with
11:18
him, but I didn't come down strong
11:21
in any one of the trade from
11:23
a betting point of view. They're all in
11:25
good form and it'll be a good
11:27
horse race. Yeah, really, really good renewal
11:29
of that grade one novice chase over the
11:31
three miles, one furlong. So Ruby, very
11:33
ish on Ballyburn, but Lucky Watson for
11:35
Rory. 525 at this is the
11:37
big goffs or the Land Rover bumper, no
11:39
form, obviously, on show. So I'm going to
11:42
go to you, Ruby, because I'm assuming... Well,
11:44
there's actually interestingly a few British runners, including
11:46
Nikki Henderson with Laguna Beach, but Willie's got
11:48
leader day board in the Jiggenstown Silks of
11:50
Patrick Ride. So that's an obvious starting point.
11:52
Yeah, look, he's first time up, a horse
11:54
by Tunis who goes reasonably well. Look, PK,
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we didn't know which was the best of
11:59
them going to the fairy house sales race
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and it's hard to know which is the
12:03
best of them. This way too, often the
12:05
one that's showing the speed at home when
12:07
he gets to the race course isn't the
12:09
best one. It's the one that actually grows,
12:11
rises to the occasion and the competitive environment
12:13
brings out ability that you haven't seen at
12:16
home. Now, plenty of these have had runs. Martin
12:19
Brazos was fifth in a bumper at Limerick behind
12:21
Light Up the Dark, a couple of point -to -point
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winners in it, Santos, Saspir, won a bumper for
12:25
Garden, a punch of stand as well, and they
12:27
run here with no penalties. Reckless
12:30
was fourth in a bumper, if you
12:32
believe, won a point -to -point so too,
12:34
the green style and green hint. So
12:36
look, there's some little snippets of form here,
12:38
and I took the hint from Stephen O
12:40
'Connor going for green hint. He
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rides all the Stuart Crawford horses, Simon,
12:44
Manir, and Isaac, so I'd have three in here,
12:46
and he's gone with green hint. I
12:48
narrowed it down to him. All right.
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Okay. Green hint. In the double green,
12:53
seemingly the first colours indeed as well for
12:55
Sture Crawford's got three in it. I'm
12:57
just assuming a pass here from you, Rory.
12:59
It's a token throw to you. Yeah. Again,
13:02
if I had to put my opinion
13:04
on the line, it would be take
13:06
a good look at the three Crawford
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runners. If you can't look
13:10
at all three of them, then the one that
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appears to be the first train appears to be
13:14
Green Hint. Sture Crawford runner, really nice prospect in
13:16
that There's
13:18
a sales bumper at Newbury last month
13:21
and he unleashed one there who looked
13:23
very good. If he considers
13:25
one of these to be better than that,
13:27
well, they'd have to be fairly decent. So
13:29
very much respect the chances of all the
13:31
Crawford runners here, but the jockey booking suggests
13:33
that Greenhint is the one to be with,
13:35
but I am very much shooting in the
13:37
dark here. Okay, we all are. to be
13:39
fair in that in that race that that
13:41
Land Rover, the goth said defender. Sorry, it's
13:43
not Land Rover anymore. You have to upgrade
13:45
to a defender. I don't know which is
13:47
better, Land Rover or defender. But they keep
13:50
an eye out for the double green, triple
13:52
green, double green producer. I'm sorry, I didn't
13:54
say triple green for the double green. But
13:56
you're right, I should have. That's
13:58
green hint. Take the hint
14:00
potentially. Really difficult race. We're going to
14:02
go money back of your second or third in that
14:04
and the banks race in the shops. If you do
14:06
want to check that out, pop in, we're going to
14:08
have great fun in the shops. Right, that is the
14:10
or by the way, So, when you pop in the
14:12
racing post over in Oblity, it doesn't tell you what
14:14
the Ortie races are, because I just said to lads,
14:17
we'll cover the Ortie races. I'm
14:19
looking at Timeform, which tells you which of
14:21
the UK channels. Good stuff. Timeform puts on
14:23
racing TV and where there's an ITV. Part
14:25
of the Flutter family, should probably start using
14:27
Timeform a little bit more. I apologize, Dan,
14:29
Barbara and Co. But yeah, on the RT,
14:31
on the racing puzzle telly, which is on
14:33
the RT anyway. Well, as
14:35
we kick off with some interesting racing,
14:37
and we're going to try and find the
14:40
best bet here on day one, Ruby.
14:42
i think we should talk about the championships
14:44
before we have the best bet i'm
14:46
having an absolute shocker i'm having an absolute
14:48
shocker profile versus marine national i would
14:50
have thought it was the highlight of the
14:52
day but obviously um you don't rate
14:54
the race at all pk um but anyway
14:56
i don't know rory i think it's
14:58
an absolutely compelling contest ryan air winner dropping
15:00
back down to two miles not the
15:02
first one to try it uh vittor alaho
15:04
i've all had a go um weren't
15:06
successful it'll be interesting to see how fact
15:08
of all gets on I just think
15:10
the nature of the contest, I
15:12
do think the fact that Marine National
15:14
will most likely follow Factorphile actually
15:17
gives Factorphile an advantage here and being
15:19
able to get on his feet
15:21
early in the race, build through it
15:23
and then drag the speed out
15:25
of Marine National. So I think Factorphile
15:27
can succeed where others have failed.
15:29
Right, you're next. I would
15:31
go the other way with this. I
15:35
think probably the sexiest
15:37
horses over fences are the two and
15:39
a half minors. The
15:41
very best of the horses. I
15:43
think the races that stir the blood
15:45
most, I know you think sometimes
15:47
about great clashes in the gold cup, but the
15:49
gold cup can end up being a bit
15:51
of a gut wrencher. Whereas the horses that I
15:53
saw as a youngster over fences, the ones
15:55
who really excited me were essentially the two and
15:58
a half minors. You tend to put them
16:00
on a little bit of a pedestal, but they
16:02
do tend to be vulnerable dropping back to two
16:04
miles. And I thought the
16:06
same here. My immediate reaction here was
16:08
the fact of file, you know, who's being
16:10
successful at three, you know, and was
16:13
considered to be a gold cup horse until
16:15
very recently. I thought the drop
16:17
back to two would be would be a negative
16:19
for him. And I
16:21
mean, listen, you can, you can knock the
16:23
champion chairs for us. There's no doubt about that.
16:25
He's won by a long way, Marine National,
16:27
where the race fell apart around him. It would
16:29
have been interesting to see what would have
16:31
happened if Calixios had stayed in his feet. But
16:34
Marine National won it very well in the
16:36
end. He's getting his act together. My concern
16:38
with him going into Cheltenham was that for
16:40
all the promises shown over the last two
16:42
or three years, he hadn't won an open
16:44
grade one, but he has done that now.
16:47
And he's answered. of those questions. I
16:49
think he'd be suited by the
16:52
way this race hands out as well.
16:54
He is of course a great winner here in the past and
16:57
I think he might just have a little bit too much
16:59
toll for a factor file but it's not an easy call. I
17:02
was surprised when factor file was
17:04
5 -6. I thought he'd be
17:06
odd against here and I've got to go
17:08
with Marine National at the current prices. All
17:10
right, one for either side in the big
17:12
race of the day. Definitely won't forget about
17:14
that one again. Apologies, lads. So,
17:16
Factor Fire for Ruby Marine National for
17:18
Roy has the look of a real
17:20
fabulous race, El Fabiolo, Salinas, Captain Guinness
17:22
and Sinicia make up the rest of
17:25
the field. Now, I
17:27
mean, the irony of me telling you how to find
17:29
the Ortee races and then not even actually talking about
17:31
one of the Ortee races is not lost on me,
17:33
Rory. But anyway, let's get your best bet on. I'll
17:35
go straight to you, Rory, on day one, please. My
17:38
best bet on day one is going to be
17:40
Lucky Watson, I think. He's
17:42
a friend. He's very much
17:44
a friend of the pocket recently as well.
17:46
Ruby, your best bet? I think
17:48
the best bet is definitely called pick the board. I think
17:51
he'll win. I didn't have a
17:53
strong opinion on the other stress, so I'm
17:55
going to go factor file. All right, back
17:57
to file in the race at six o 'clock, which
17:59
no one would ever had put it
18:01
on a proper running order. That's day
18:03
one lads. As I said, if you want to
18:05
get into the Punchstown mode, watch a professional production,
18:08
involving Patrick Mullins, Ruby Walsh and Paddy Parr
18:10
they go on to Punchstown Rewind really
18:12
good. on the Paddy Parr YouTube channel. We'll
18:14
be back for more where be doing
18:16
more research and actually putting in a proper
18:18
running order for daily podcast. We'll be
18:20
back tomorrow to look ahead to day two
18:22
of the best and enjoy day one
18:24
on RT television or on Racing TV.
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