0:15

The dulcet tones of a second

0:17

helping's chug a chug a chugging

0:19

right into your ear space. Welcome

0:21

everybody. It's second helpens. Welcome everyone.

0:23

Jackie, you know what I realized

0:25

is that I didn't ask you

0:28

at all about your Spring's Giving.

0:30

Happy Beloved Spring's Giving. Wow. Thank

0:32

you so much for bringing it

0:34

up. I appreciate that. Yeah, I

0:36

think that we on the last

0:38

episode did talk a good heaps

0:41

amount about 420, which did happen

0:43

to fall on Springs. this year

0:45

and thank you for asking

0:47

honestly MJ we had the

0:49

most successful Springs giving to

0:52

date. Wow? It was just

0:54

absolutely wonderful. Everybody came, you

0:56

know, we all, we had

0:58

Easter egg hunts. Friends, like

1:00

a friend of ours got

1:02

like gnomes for all the

1:04

kids and then they like

1:07

cut out huge flowers and

1:09

all the kids were like

1:11

decorating the flowers to make

1:13

a garden for the gnomes. It

1:15

was a, technically, a very,

1:17

well. I was going to say wholesome

1:20

day, but we were ripping, ripping blunts

1:22

in the front of the house,

1:24

far away from the children. And

1:26

we were celebrating all the high

1:28

holy holidays, and we had a

1:30

great time with it. Thank you

1:32

so much. How was your Springs

1:34

Giving? MJ, did you pitch Springs

1:37

Giving to the house, or are

1:39

you keeping it in the shadows

1:41

because you're scared of its strength?

1:43

We have not yet officially started

1:45

calling it Springs Giving. You know

1:47

that... I think that for my

1:49

children, Thanksgiving doesn't have, they don't

1:52

think of Thanksgiving as the best

1:54

holiday, right? Because there's no stuff to

1:56

eat. And so it would be a hard sell.

1:58

But we had a good time. We had. Spring's

2:00

Miss, maybe you call it Spring's Miss

2:02

and you get an extra Christmas because

2:05

I mean, I don't know if this

2:07

is too much to ask, but I

2:09

know that you guys celebrate both Passover

2:11

and Easter. Correct. Okay, so does the

2:13

Easter Bunny visit your home? Yes, the

2:15

Easter Bunny does visit the home, although...

2:18

How do you feel about lying to

2:20

the children? Well, I feel great about

2:22

it. But I love it. I think

2:24

we should be lying more to him.

2:26

Honestly, I say we go back. Yeah.

2:29

Yeah. I am an enthusiastic liar. But

2:31

I live with somebody. I'm an

2:33

enthusiastic liar. I live with someone

2:35

who's very alarmed by the concept

2:37

of lying to the kids because

2:39

he didn't grow up with either

2:41

Christmas or thing or Easter. And

2:43

so, and I guess, I don't

2:45

know if he had the tooth

2:47

fairy growing up. And that's a

2:49

non-denominational. magical person who comes

2:51

to that, but he's uncomfortable with

2:53

all of it. Oh, wow. Okay.

2:55

All right. So you are a

2:58

lone bunny out in the field.

3:00

So like, yeah, we like went

3:02

to like when we woke up,

3:04

there was an Easter egg hunt

3:06

because the Easter bunny had visited

3:08

our home and then we went

3:10

to the park to see friends

3:12

and there was another Easter egg

3:14

hunt there and my husband was

3:16

like, what do we tell them?

3:18

tell them that our friends set it

3:20

up and the Easterman came to our house and

3:23

then we decided to do another one here and

3:25

he was like I don't understand how those works

3:27

I don't understand the rules. Oh no you start

3:29

spiraling you're like you can't start spiraling then I'm

3:32

gonna start spiraling then you're both spiraling

3:34

and then you're both spiraling and it's

3:36

Easter but is it springs giving us

3:38

you're right you can't introduce the concept

3:40

of a new holiday to Gideon. I don't

3:42

know if you can handle it. Another one?

3:44

Wait, you're just making it up? No, we're

3:47

not ready. As opposed to all the other

3:49

ones that were not just made up. You

3:51

know, you're talking about being a great liar

3:53

and I would be remiss not to bring

3:56

up an honest liar that I learned about

3:58

this week, and that would be the... Amazing

4:00

Randy now MJ I talked

4:03

off Mike to you last

4:05

week a little bit about

4:07

Jeff and I's Current foray

4:10

into the world of America's

4:12

psychic challenge That is a

4:14

television. It's a reality television

4:17

show from the year 2007 and

4:20

it is making Psychics on

4:22

television in 2007 compete

4:24

using their psychic abilities

4:27

to compete four points

4:29

to continue in advance through

4:31

reality. You know, it's surprising to

4:33

me that psychics can work like

4:36

that, that you can work in

4:38

competition, and that you can be

4:40

like quantified in that manner. And

4:42

I'm laughing because I don't think

4:44

that any of them are real

4:46

psychics. And I started talking about

4:48

my beliefs about psychics to Jeff.

4:51

And he's like, well, yeah, I

4:53

mean... Then he starts expounding on

4:55

the world and life of Harry

4:57

Houdini because my husband remembers everything

4:59

that he has ever read and

5:01

has ever heard and I love

5:03

hearing him or eight about a

5:05

subject. I'm like, okay, yeah, tell

5:08

me about Harry Houdini. And he

5:10

starts talking about how Harry Houdini,

5:12

like, one of the huge works

5:14

of his life was debunking

5:16

psychics and talking about, like,

5:18

he specifically didn't think that...

5:20

mediums and psychics existed and

5:23

wanted to show the world,

5:25

especially people that were hurting

5:27

people because they were creating

5:29

false connections and trying to

5:31

use it to gain money.

5:33

And so this in turn inspired

5:36

the Amazing Randy and the

5:38

Amazing Randy was this he

5:40

had there's a documentary about

5:43

him called an honest liar

5:45

and the Amazing Randy who

5:47

is now a queer icon

5:50

who his whole life's work

5:52

he went from being a

5:54

huge very well-known magician on

5:56

television and everything to starting

5:59

to also debunk psychics because

6:01

he was so sick of watching

6:03

the charlatans like the people running

6:06

like the mega churches and stuff

6:08

like that that were claiming to

6:10

heal be like the televangelists and

6:13

stuff like that he would go

6:15

and follow this one specific huge

6:17

medium that like apparently science had

6:19

quote unquote said was like a

6:22

real psychic and he would follow

6:24

him from city to city after

6:26

he would do a live show

6:28

and he would show how he

6:31

was doing it because he's like,

6:33

it's just magic. Psychics are using

6:35

magic to hurt people and I

6:37

want to take them down. But

6:39

the best part about the Amazing

6:42

Randy is that he was like,

6:44

I believe in the paranormal. If

6:46

you can, he's like, please prove

6:48

me wrong. Make me not. Prove you

6:51

wrong like I would love that I

6:53

would love to see that it is

6:55

real Amazing Randy looks like

6:57

a cool guy man. I do

6:59

them. I love his low row

7:02

And it's so the doc was

7:04

so it was the doc that

7:06

came out in like 2014 and

7:08

actually Adam amazing Adam from

7:10

you're just like the

7:12

amazing Randy Adam except in

7:15

almost no ways except you

7:17

both have great beards but

7:20

Adam was like, you guys have

7:22

started watching America's psychic

7:24

challenge and we were talking about Harry

7:26

Udini. Now, Jeff knew about the amazing

7:28

Randy, but we hadn't watched a doc,

7:30

so we watched the doc and wow.

7:32

At first I was like, man, that's

7:34

kind of like, it's shitty, just

7:37

like blowing up everybody's spot,

7:39

but he was so like... He

7:41

true and he was he was

7:43

like I'm saving people's lives these

7:45

people that especially the elderly people

7:47

that were giving their life savings

7:49

to like a televangelist that wasn't

7:51

doing anything that was doing like

7:54

literally the movie leap of faith

7:56

and like like but it was before

7:58

the movie leap of faith. So it

8:00

was when people were really truly

8:02

feeling and like knowing all of this,

8:05

but it was crazy because man, the

8:07

Amazing Randy, he looked old when he

8:09

was on television in like the 60s

8:11

and he just died. Not that long

8:13

ago. He died in 2020 at the

8:16

age of 92. So yeah, we're talking

8:18

a pioneer. And you were still

8:20

going, and America's psychic challenge. I

8:22

would love to have seen the

8:25

Amazing Randy go on here and like,

8:27

oh yeah, you guys are psychic. I

8:29

mean, just like, take them all down,

8:31

take them all down, take them all

8:34

down. And I think I feel similarly

8:36

to the Amazing Randy. I want to

8:38

believe in it. Oh, yeah. I do.

8:40

I want to believe in it. I

8:42

would love it. Because I am a

8:45

person that like, I'll, I mean, I

8:47

get my tarot cards read, I'd love

8:49

to check out a psychic. So that's

8:51

why when Jeff first started

8:54

telling me about Harry or you,

8:56

he was like, take money from

8:58

people and lie to them. And

9:00

I was like, okay, I understand

9:02

that. I get that. Do you

9:04

remember this is unlocking a memory

9:06

of a show that for some

9:08

reason I exclusively watched at

9:11

my grandma's house with my

9:13

brother when we were kids,

9:15

which was crossing over with John

9:17

Edward. Do you remember that show? Oh

9:19

yeah. Oh yeah. I would love to

9:22

watch that motherfucker get debunked. Yeah.

9:24

So fast. You know it's fake. so

9:26

vulnerable like he was it was literally

9:28

like tell me about your dead loved

9:30

one and I will tell you, and

9:32

you know, is it all the classic,

9:34

you know, did you guys have like,

9:36

just say, you know, pull out any

9:39

like random thing that might apply to

9:41

any loved one or family, like she

9:43

loved to laugh. Yes, she did love

9:45

to laugh, you know, and but like,

9:47

it was that 90, or I guess

9:49

it was like that, you know, you

9:51

know, daytime, it looked like Maury, except

9:53

instead of fighting about who's the

9:55

daddy, it was like, like, I'll

9:58

talk to your dad relatives, activated

10:00

me and also we thought it was

10:02

very funny that he had the same

10:04

names as John Edwards the politician I

10:06

mean, well, and then that's the thing.

10:09

What's so fascinating is I'm going to

10:11

completely botch this story because

10:13

it's so funny me trying to

10:15

explain Jeff's perfect memory while I'm

10:17

just a stoner that like half

10:20

remembers stuff, but I'm like, oh

10:22

wow, that's crazy. So essentially, here's

10:24

my stoner remembrance. Harry Houdini was

10:26

really, really close with his mother.

10:28

And so he was like, all

10:30

right, I'd love it if a

10:32

medium could... Okay, you can do

10:35

it. You're saying you can do

10:37

it. Connect me to my

10:39

mother. I want I want

10:41

to talk to my mother

10:43

again. And the first thing

10:45

that like this one other

10:47

like huge dude was like

10:49

this psychic is definitely a

10:51

great psychic. Definitely knows a

10:53

shit. So he goes to

10:55

this medium, right? And he

10:57

starts connecting me starts talking

10:59

to his mother and then

11:01

he's like. He's like, well, I know

11:03

that this is fall. He immediately stops. And

11:06

he's like, I know that this is false.

11:08

And he's like, what are you talking about?

11:10

He's like, my father was married to a

11:12

rabbi. And she never spoke English. And

11:14

she didn't call me Harry, because Harry's

11:17

not my real name. Harry Houdini is

11:19

a stage name. So, wow. Done. And

11:21

it's like, all right, immediately, all right,

11:23

next. And just that kind of shit

11:25

where it's like, you're right, and these

11:27

people were making a full living, especially

11:29

back then, they could get away with

11:31

almost anything, you know, and almost anything.

11:33

Oh yeah, well, and like, we were

11:35

talking about this, I think not on

11:37

a main feed show, but I think

11:39

on celebrities, how like the most appealing

11:41

part of organized religion is the

11:43

afterlife to me. And like, so

11:45

it's just like, there's just something

11:47

so particularly vulnerable about. and particularly

11:50

cruel about being like, yeah, I

11:52

can connect you to your dad

11:54

loved ones because like, of course

11:56

everybody would want that, you know,

11:58

like, I, like. I would be extremely

12:00

vulnerable to that. And so it's like, I

12:03

think when I was watching Crossing Over with

12:05

John Edwards as a kid, I think I

12:07

was probably a little smug about it, like,

12:09

uh, idiots, why they think he's talking to

12:11

the dead. And now that I just have

12:14

a little bit more compassion in my heart,

12:16

I'm like, I would absolutely, if this... Weird

12:18

man told me that he could talk to

12:20

a lost loved one, I would be like,

12:23

sign me up, buddy. You know, so it's

12:25

like, and it's just such a particular grief.

12:27

You're so right, because it is a back

12:29

and forth, and I do feel that way

12:31

where it's like, well, I mean, I guess

12:34

it is providing a comfort for a person,

12:36

but it is lying to them. Right. But

12:38

also, we all lie. You know, it's like

12:40

we all lie about little things.

12:42

You were just talking about

12:45

lying to your kids. And

12:47

he's your body. You know,

12:49

it's like, they're all, it's a,

12:52

it is, it goes all different ways.

12:54

But man, if there's one

12:56

way, the movie, the sinners

12:58

was going, that's into my

13:01

pants. Oh, okay. Wow, what

13:03

a transition Jackie is what

13:05

I just said. centers with like

13:08

we went like 15 deep to

13:10

go see centers and it was awesome.

13:12

We were in a full like full

13:14

movie theater but like one of the

13:17

movie theaters not in the fancy seats

13:19

so you know a movie is good

13:21

if you hit one of the big

13:23

three in Burbank AMC's and you see

13:25

a hit movie and it's in not

13:27

in the fancy seats that means that

13:29

movie is sold out everywhere it was

13:32

insane MJ there was no parking in

13:34

any of the parking lots on a

13:36

Tuesday and I was like is this

13:38

and literally the only movies out right

13:40

now? are Minecraft and sinners. I

13:42

was like, is everybody here

13:44

to see the sinners? But

13:47

I think everyone was here

13:49

to see sinners and I loved

13:51

it because bro, you know what's

13:53

better than Michael B. Jordan?

13:55

Oh, to Michael B. Jordan!

13:58

To Michael B. Jordan! you

14:00

seen the trailer of this movie?

14:02

No, all I know. You told

14:04

me that there's two Michael B.

14:07

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14:09

don't understand that. So yeah, no,

14:11

I have, I know nothing. I'm

14:13

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14:16

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14:18

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14:20

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14:22

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14:24

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14:26

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14:29

like. Most of it is going

14:31

to be like a crazy vampire

14:33

movie. And here's the thing,

14:35

it's a great vampire movie.

14:37

It's not a crazy vampire

14:39

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14:41

all kind of settle more

14:43

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14:46

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14:48

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14:50

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14:52

is insane. And man, Michael B.

14:54

Jordan. You know the thing is

14:56

that I was talking to some

14:59

friends and like I heard their

15:01

feedback on it and I understand

15:03

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15:05

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15:07

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15:09

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15:11

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15:14

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like movies I made with one

20:07

Michael B. Jordan. What about if

20:09

I made one with two Michael

20:12

B. What if they do? Yeah,

20:14

no, you're right. You're right. I

20:16

take it back. Identical twin actors.

20:18

Sorry, next time, maybe, you'll have the

20:20

opportunity. It is from dusk till dawn.

20:22

When I first saw it. I feel

20:25

that it is. It's not from Dust

20:27

Till Dawn, but I really really had

20:29

a great time watching it. Okay, you

20:32

know what I mean? I do. Well,

20:34

can I tell you what I'm having

20:36

a great time watching? Oh, you get,

20:38

oh yeah, is this a slip-in slide?

20:41

Are we talking, slip-in slides right now?

20:43

Because, bro, I mean, I don't know

20:45

if I'm really bearing lead on how

20:48

hot, oh my God, the fuck scenes

20:50

are, but I'm just, but MJ. I

20:52

forget that I am a I'm a

20:55

whole I'm just a whole censored oh

20:57

Am I being judged? I'm not trying

20:59

to if you want to talk more

21:02

about Michael B. George you can't because

21:04

that's what we're here for so it's

21:06

fine. I'm sorry you're right. I know

21:08

I forget that I am I'm a

21:11

whore. I'm just a horna girl alone

21:13

out here that I have to remember

21:15

that not everybody is only thinking with

21:18

the pulsating from their midsection. But please,

21:20

yes. Just a holy girl. I know,

21:22

man, all new world. Man, yeah, I

21:25

took the midnight train going everywhere, but

21:27

coming on my face. Well, what I

21:29

was going to talk about was obviously

21:32

more of like a an emotional psychological

21:34

spiritual slip and slide, but there's some

21:36

physical slip and slide as well. Okay,

21:39

I accept. It's season two of Andor.

21:41

I knew I knew you love a

21:43

rebel I do I love a rebel

21:45

That is Oh God MJ you must

21:48

tell that to Gideon I could hear

21:50

Gideon getting hard from here I'm just

21:52

you making a sexy Star Wars joke

21:55

You know, I, long time listeners will

21:57

remember that I am married to a

21:59

Star Wars enthusiast. We did walk back

22:02

down the eye, like the recession song,

22:04

and our wedding was the Star Wars

22:06

theme, and he wanted it to be

22:09

a deeper cut than the Star Wars

22:11

theme. He wanted it to be the

22:13

song that plays at the end of

22:15

New Hope when they received their medals,

22:18

and I said that's too much of

22:20

a deep cut. And as a movie,

22:22

having the conversation about it, he was

22:25

weeping from the music. So he is

22:27

a real... I was like, nobody knows,

22:29

I was like, this one has no

22:32

emotional residence for anyone. And I look

22:34

at him and he was like, sobbing.

22:36

Yes. So he's a Star Wars boy

22:39

for sure, and I am not a

22:41

Star Wars boy myself, but I will

22:43

enjoy them. I got nothing against them.

22:46

They just don't do a ton for

22:48

me. However, I do love. allegories about

22:50

resisting fascism. Yeah, yeah, you do. And

22:52

therefore, I do stand in the camp

22:55

that, and this is, I don't know

22:57

how popular this camp is, because all

22:59

my friends are in this camp, but

23:02

I don't know what other people who

23:04

are normal think. Rogue One, one of

23:06

the best Star Wars movies. Oh, wow.

23:09

Rogue One is. so good and it's

23:11

basically. May I ask what makes if

23:13

I may I and I don't mean

23:16

to put you to task but what

23:18

makes that one a good one? No

23:20

unfortunately this task I've been primed for

23:23

this task for years because this is

23:25

what my husband and my brother talk

23:27

about when they're together so rogue one

23:29

is the best Star Wars movie because

23:32

right so when the Star Wars episode

23:34

four a new hope you know Leah

23:36

You know, it begins with, they have

23:39

these. Am I asking you right? I'm

23:41

like, uh, MJ, can you explain to

23:43

me my people like Star Wars? Can

23:46

you just like go back and just

23:48

start, you know, it's star from me

23:50

again? If you could just. No, I

23:53

won't go on too long, I promise.

23:55

But I basically. Star Wars. Star Wars.

23:57

this the formation of the rebel alliance

23:59

right like an organized rebellion and also

24:02

yeah they're bad and they're mean I

24:04

I started caring about Star Wars once

24:06

I started looking at it as a

24:09

political allegory which I know that is

24:11

literally what science fiction is right yes

24:13

and and you do claim to not

24:16

like science fiction right and then yeah

24:18

you hate science fiction well the other

24:20

night we were watching severance and Gideon

24:23

looked over at me and he was

24:25

like you know what this is Science.

24:27

Fiction. Oh, it's science. I hate to

24:30

break this to you, MJ, but I

24:32

feel like you might, you might be

24:34

changing. I think you're... I think I'm

24:36

I have been changed. Oh my god,

24:39

you're already on the second part of

24:41

wicked already in your brain? Okay. Oh

24:43

my god, you know how much I'm

24:46

gonna cry when they sing that god

24:48

damn song. Yeah, no, I know it's

24:50

I'm gonna cry and I don't even

24:53

care about the first half a wicked.

24:55

But anyway, point is, rogue one is

24:57

leading up to everything that happens. Rogue

25:00

one is it leads up, it takes

25:02

us right up to the moment of

25:04

the. of where we begin with episode

25:06

for A New Hope, right? So it's

25:09

like as the Rebel Alliance forms, because

25:11

they have the information that they have

25:13

to form a resistance to the empire,

25:16

they have it because of the resistance

25:18

movement that preceded it, and that story

25:20

is not told until rogue one, which

25:23

is kind of crazy that they made.

25:25

the three Star Wars movies and then

25:27

the three prequels with before ever having

25:30

told about like the kind of origin

25:32

story of the kind of grassroots rise

25:34

of a resistance movement to the to

25:37

empire. So you're basically just getting the.

25:39

the real like backstory of what it's

25:41

like to build a resistance to fascism

25:43

before you have like the full, like

25:46

the strength of what becomes the Rebel

25:48

Alliance. And so that's Rogue One and

25:50

what Andor is, is I, now Star

25:53

Wars nerds will be, I'm not, because

25:55

I don't remember the exact timeline, but

25:57

Andor is that. You know more than

26:00

I know, I'll follow you into the

26:02

dark MJ, into the space dark, I

26:04

guess. Andor is in the same, is

26:07

in the same, you know, timeline, same

26:09

part of time as Rogue One as

26:11

Rogue One is where. You have, I

26:13

think it precedes rogue one, but it's

26:16

like, do you have Diego Luna? who

26:18

is Cassie and Andor. Oh, you got,

26:20

oh, you got this. So that's the

26:23

slip and slide part. Season one of

26:25

Andor is extremely good. I highly recommend

26:27

it. I highly, highly recommend it. Oh,

26:30

and he's in the movie, but then

26:32

he's also in the show. Yes, exactly.

26:34

Oh, okay. So, oh, okay. And so

26:37

let me see if I can even

26:39

quickly. I have become my mother. I'll

26:41

never forget when the movie, the perfect

26:44

storm. The perfect storm was coming out.

26:46

I want to go see, what is

26:48

it called, raging storm? What is that

26:50

movie? I want to go see that

26:53

movie. And I just remember, she said

26:55

it over and over again, and I

26:57

realize one of the many wonderful ways

27:00

in which I'm becoming my mother, that

27:02

is one of them, that I've just

27:04

creating things in my brain, and when

27:07

will I stop seeing current reality? I'm

27:09

going to say five years from now.

27:11

We've got five years left, so let's

27:14

see how it goes, guys. Yes. Well,

27:16

but yeah, so basically, you know, if

27:18

you've seen Rogue One and you liked

27:21

it, the more concise way to say

27:23

this is that Rogue One is the

27:25

prequel to A New Hope, and Andor

27:27

is the prequel to Rogue One, where

27:30

you really see Cassie and Andor, this

27:32

resistance hero, who his origin story. And

27:34

I don't even really want to talk

27:37

about what happens in season one of

27:39

Andor if you haven't seen it, because

27:41

it is breathtaking. Like I am married

27:44

to a movement lawyer and a Star

27:46

Wars nerd. And so for him it's

27:48

really shit. Oh my God, together. Oh

27:51

my God. We're talking about like movement

27:53

building and an uprising in a way.

27:55

I've never seen anything like it. I

27:57

do not. slip for Star Wars and

28:00

I do slip for Andor so I'm

28:02

not sure if that is speaking to

28:04

you guys as listeners but it and

28:07

so season two just started they dropped

28:09

three episodes at once and I we've

28:11

only made it through the first one

28:14

but it is just it's beautiful like

28:16

and it is I will say that

28:18

to have a story that is so

28:21

much about about a violent resistance to

28:23

fascist empire at this moment is really

28:25

like it's really Really? Yeah, I imagine.

28:28

I kind of can't believe it's happening.

28:30

I can't believe the timing. Like there's

28:32

an entire scene where the Senate is

28:34

just talking about like, you know, occupying,

28:37

colonizing, shock doctrineing another country, another planet.

28:39

And I'm like, I can't believe this

28:41

is happening right now. It's so good.

28:44

It's so well done. The headline, oh,

28:46

one of the reviews is Andor season

28:48

two, a masterpiece, some of the best

28:51

Star Wars ever made. Where's the New

28:53

York Times. headline and or shows how

28:55

a resistance is built one brick at

28:58

a time. It's just it's it's it

29:00

is like it is shockingly cogent timing

29:02

and it is incredibly well done and

29:04

it's not like Eddie was talking about

29:07

music but he was like you know

29:09

not all music needs to be political

29:11

not everything is like a pamphlet that

29:14

I really appreciate that and not all

29:16

art needs to political right but and

29:18

or if you're gonna do a story

29:21

about obviously Star Wars again it's a

29:23

it's a story of rebellion and this

29:25

and or is like. It's how it

29:28

happens. It's how you get to what

29:30

Star Wars is. And it's just breathtaking.

29:32

It's so well done. I, man, you

29:35

know, I know that I will love

29:37

it when I watch it again because

29:39

apparently I watched the first full season

29:41

and I don't remember watching it. I

29:44

was just talking about how great Jeff's

29:46

memory is. He's like, you definitely watch

29:48

it with me. He's like, you definitely

29:51

watch it because like I got. you

29:53

to watch it because I said it

29:55

was kind of horny and you said

29:58

that you would watch it and you

30:00

did and I was like wow and

30:02

he's like explaining the block points he's

30:05

going through it he's like don't you

30:07

remember when this happened I remember when

30:09

this happened I was like no it's

30:11

so not horny it's only horny because

30:14

boss from the bear is there that

30:16

is I think he knows me he

30:18

knows I need like an essence of

30:21

horny I need a whisper Or cousin

30:23

from the bear. Yes, cause, yeah. But

30:25

anything that will keep me there. Yeah.

30:28

He knows he knows what sells me

30:30

totally totally and I and if that's

30:32

what it takes to bring you in

30:35

then bring you I think I wonder

30:37

if if you watch season one again

30:39

or if you just go to season

30:42

two if it will hit different this

30:44

time because of the world around us

30:46

It's it's like I imagine it will

30:48

I feel like it honestly will it's

30:51

I can't believe the timing I honest

30:53

I'm like I can't believe that this

30:55

is allowed to be on television right

30:58

now. It is a story of how

31:00

to build a resistance a resistance movement

31:02

movement. It is, it is, it hits

31:05

different, as they say. Do you hear

31:07

the people sing, singing the song of

31:09

angry men? Yeah. I won't continue, but

31:12

I, we will not be slaves again.

31:14

But that's just me being a little

31:16

lame is girl, you know? And who

31:19

am I to ever say, because that's

31:21

why I'm not saying, and I'm fully

31:23

blaming myself that I don't remember Andor.

31:25

It has nothing to do with the

31:28

show. We'll call it layman's in space.

31:30

Does that do anything? Done. See, this

31:32

is what I'm talking about. You just

31:35

have to pitch it to me right.

31:37

This is how you get me into

31:39

things. Lame is in space. Essence of

31:42

horny. Yeah. I'm there. Yeah. That's all

31:44

I need. I'm with it. Again, I'm

31:46

not I'm not thirsting for Star Wars

31:49

myself. So I also need ways to

31:51

be brought in. And yeah, it's a

31:53

hot hot uprising. Not a hot uprising

31:55

though? I feel Elizabeth Hurley and Billy

31:58

Ray Cyrus's romance. Ew. What is happening?

32:00

Like what timeline have we found or

32:02

something? Like is this a Marvel thing?

32:05

Have we all done this to ourselves

32:07

with the big box office movies that

32:09

because so many movies about different dimensions

32:12

have come out that now like, oh

32:14

you want fucking timelines? You want to

32:16

get the dumbest timeline you could expect?

32:19

Have Elizabeth Hurley? And Billy Ray Cyrus

32:21

get together. I think that something might

32:23

be happening with Elizabeth Hurley where maybe

32:26

because she's British we like assume that

32:28

she's like smarter and cooler than she

32:30

is. Like I think as if we're

32:32

just dumb Americans, then that makes a

32:35

lot of sense. Like I have her

32:37

on this like shelf that's much higher

32:39

than the shelf that I put Billy

32:42

Ray on. It's because of the Hugh

32:44

Grant incident. It has to be. I

32:46

think it's right. I think we are

32:49

still like, I think we are just

32:51

that age where we will never forget

32:53

the Hugh Grant incident. Never forgive, never

32:56

forget. Even though I still feel in

32:58

a different age, it would, I imagine

33:00

be different because the... that it was

33:02

discussed and what happened I think was

33:05

very yucky but it was still between

33:07

two consensual people and I believe I

33:09

mean yeah and she was and she

33:12

as far as we know and as

33:14

far as we know an adult and

33:16

it's sad that we have to have

33:19

those boundaries at this point consensual adult

33:21

but I feel like the hugest thing

33:23

what the tabloids did at the time

33:26

was we're like fucking oaker and then

33:28

also and you can you believe banging

33:30

someone when you could bang Elizabeth Hurley

33:33

and I feel like that is a

33:35

foundation point in my brain. Totally, I

33:37

think it's that, I think you're right

33:39

that we had to like side with

33:42

her against you, Grant, and I, well,

33:44

probably we were right, but again, I

33:46

don't know, it was a long time

33:49

ago and I have not looked closely.

33:51

And I've not really looked into this,

33:53

yes, I need 10 seconds looking into

33:56

it. But. What I did spend more

33:58

than 10 seconds looking into is why

34:00

Elizabeth Hurley is consistently really a weird

34:03

celebrity because remember the various, we talked

34:05

about it with Holden at one point

34:07

that she, her son Damien who is

34:09

like a weird beautiful alien. Yes. He

34:12

films her sex, the sexy, not full

34:14

on sex, but he films her sexy,

34:16

not full on sex, but he films

34:19

her sexy. Was it only fans? I

34:21

had both blinds open yesterday to talk

34:23

about this. Yes, yes, he makes her

34:26

content for her, her sexy content. And

34:28

then upon finding that... upon that recollection,

34:30

I in the blinds, there were more

34:33

links to more speculation about how weird

34:35

her relationship is with her son and

34:37

that perhaps it actually goes even further

34:40

than him filming her sexy content. So

34:42

that's all to say that I think

34:44

I have been blinded by Elizabeth Hurley's

34:46

beauty in her pretty generally good body

34:49

of work, uh, that perhaps she is

34:51

a weirdo, not only because of her

34:53

relationship with her beautiful alien son, but

34:56

also because of her now relationship with

34:58

her now relationship with her. with Billy

35:00

Ray Cyrus. And I just, yes, technically

35:03

it's none of our business on the

35:05

one hand, on the other hand, that

35:07

guy is a fucking creep and a

35:10

piece of shit. And why would you

35:12

date it? Yes. I also, so that's,

35:14

I'm having like a big issue over

35:17

here because in my brain I was

35:19

like, yeah, because she was also in

35:21

monkey bone, but she wasn't in monkey

35:23

bone because monkey bone really weirded me

35:26

out when it first came out. Like

35:28

I was really, I think I was

35:30

like scared of monkey bone and I'm

35:33

going to say I haven't seen it

35:35

since, but it was because I was

35:37

confusing that. movie with the movie with

35:40

that Brendan Fraser movie with the movie

35:42

Bedazzled and they were in that movie

35:44

and I think that for me and

35:47

I would also assume lots of other

35:49

horny youths like me they remember that

35:51

movie and have Elizabeth Hurley up on

35:53

a pedestal because she was a hot

35:56

devil woman in that movie and I

35:58

know that that at least kind of

36:00

peppered something into my monster-fucker brain right

36:03

and also I think we I talked

36:05

about her body of work and I'm

36:07

looking at the list of movies she

36:10

said and I'm realizing I don't think

36:12

she's angry like Austin Powers just doing

36:14

a lot of heavy lifting a lot

36:17

of. Like she's a star she was

36:19

in both Two of the three Austin

36:21

Powerses. She makes me think she's in

36:24

monkey bone every time I think about

36:26

her. Monkey bone, the huge movie people

36:28

are always talking about. Yeah, her list

36:30

of movies besides Austin Powers. We're not

36:33

really talking about a heavy movie. Although

36:35

she wasn't my favorite Martian and my

36:37

favorite Martian banged, bro. Fair. Christopher Lloyd

36:40

at his, well I don't want to

36:42

say it as much, but Christopher Lloyd

36:44

and I will end it there. Also.

36:47

I will say I just finished season

36:49

three of Hacks and I'm about to

36:51

enter season four and Christopher Lloyd has

36:54

a bit character in it and I

36:56

gotta say I just I almost burst

36:58

into tears and I'm just like it's

37:00

great to see Christopher Lloyd Yeah, hell

37:03

yeah, put Christopher Lloyd in it. This

37:05

is awesome. Hacks is a great show

37:07

for having fun little cameos like that.

37:10

God, Hacks is so good. And I

37:12

want to also say thank you to

37:14

everybody that wrote in that also appreciated

37:17

Hacks that either works in the entertainment

37:19

industry or has nothing to do with

37:21

the entertainment industry or is annoyed by

37:24

the entertainment industry, but still enjoy this

37:26

show. And I really appreciate it because

37:28

you're so right. It's so much more

37:31

about the central relationship between the two

37:33

of them and how that changes and

37:35

how it grows. Yes, yes, very much

37:37

so and that conversation and also showing

37:40

a boomer that is down to grow

37:42

and listen and try to change and

37:44

I appreciate showing that because like, you

37:47

know, I have a mother that is

37:49

not, you know, hashtag not all boomers

37:51

that is not like, you know, all

37:54

the memes of boomers and I'm very

37:56

thankful and I feel like we should

37:58

celebrate the ones that are not. being

38:01

like that, the ones that have grown

38:03

and have learned and have changed. Oh

38:05

yeah, absolutely. But I don't think we

38:07

are celebrating Elizabeth Hurley, I know we're

38:10

not celebrating Elizabeth Hurley and Billy Ray

38:12

Cyrus. I just... No, we're not, we're

38:14

not, we're not at all, and don't

38:17

get me wrong, Elizabeth Hurley, you're not

38:19

at all, and don't get me wrong,

38:21

Elizabeth Hurley, Hurley, I just... needs to

38:24

get punched in the face. Like I

38:26

think that he needs a he needs

38:28

to shake up. You know you read

38:31

everything that's going on like with the

38:33

Cyrus family and it's just a lot

38:35

of like it just seems like man

38:38

the parents are just not they're not

38:40

being good parents right now. Yes. I

38:42

like even if you didn't lose an

38:44

entire Saturday morning once to reading about

38:47

the drama and the Cyrus family as

38:49

I did, one time I just spent

38:51

Dila, I, I, I spent two, two,

38:54

two. One Saturday morning. I just imagine

38:56

you watching cartoons, but also doing this.

38:58

I spent, I lost two full hours.

39:01

to reading about why they're all mad

39:03

at each other, and you don't need

39:05

to do that to just, all you

39:08

have to do is remember, was it

39:10

vanity fair? Or vogue, I always mix

39:12

those two up, I think it was

39:15

vanity fair. The extremely creepy photo shoot

39:17

that he did with Miley when she

39:19

was like underage, and just everything he

39:21

did to her, and their current relationship

39:24

certainly points to that this is not

39:26

us. putting, projecting our own feelings from

39:28

the outside. No. There is something going

39:31

on between them. She does not like

39:33

her dad. Yeah. And you know who

39:35

I trust more than Billy, Ray Cyrus?

39:38

Miley, Miley, especially when that dad was

39:40

like, you know, in charge of her

39:42

career and in charge of pushing her

39:45

and he's like, there's, you know, there's

39:47

gonna be lots that we will probably

39:49

never know about until that Miley memoir

39:51

comes out and baby I'm gonna. And

39:54

speaking of, we are starting next week.

39:56

We are starting Down the Drain by

39:58

Julia Fox over on Celebrities on the

40:01

page 7, Patreon. And those episodes come

40:03

out every Wednesday. We just finished up

40:05

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Real House Wise of Salt Lake City.

40:10

And I know we're not talking about

40:12

the book right now. We're not talking

40:15

about it right now. But I've started

40:17

it and I'm enjoying it down the

40:19

drain. Yes. Oh, yeah talking about it

40:22

right now I know we're gonna talk

40:24

about it over there But we have

40:26

other things to talk about you know

40:28

what I do want to discuss real

40:31

quick You don't need to get into

40:33

it MJ if you don't want to

40:35

we're talking big ticket items in the

40:38

the kids's Easter baskets. Oh how big

40:40

we talk? Yeah this big talking we

40:42

talking Louis Vuitton. What are we talking

40:45

we talking to your as big as

40:47

the cardashions? in the Easter baskets and

40:49

that is just, how do you, you

40:52

know, how does an Easter bunny top

40:54

it? You know, like, that's not the

40:56

time to go all out. No. You

40:58

know, in the same way that, you

41:01

know, you brought up the tooth fairy

41:03

earlier, which also, curious as what the

41:05

going rate is, I saw recently Freddie

41:08

lost her first. She did. What is,

41:10

what is, what, how, what are we

41:12

going, what's it going for these days?

41:15

I literally had to Google it. I

41:17

was like, what, you know, tooth fairy

41:19

rates 2025, because, you know, you don't

41:22

want to set a precedent. You know,

41:24

the kids gonna go to school and

41:26

tell the other kids. And so that's

41:29

why it's like, what has she heard?

41:31

What's the word? Like I feel like,

41:33

I remember we got a lot of

41:35

money in my brain and we got

41:38

a dollar per. per two. Yeah, yeah,

41:40

I think I got a dollar, I

41:42

think we got a dollar also. So

41:45

I Googled it and also Gideon was

41:47

out with some friends that night with

41:49

who had kids and he asked them

41:52

and the consensus is five dollars, which

41:54

yes, seems like a lot, but inflation-wise,

41:56

I think it actually kind of makes

41:59

sense. You can't really buy anything with

42:01

a dollar right now, so if you

42:03

want the kid to be able to

42:05

like... I'd buy that for a dollar.

42:08

Like, they can't even literally buy a

42:10

candy for a dollar anymore. Right, right,

42:12

right. Yeah, and that makes a lot

42:15

of sense for inflation because I had

42:17

heard that it was going up to

42:19

20. Absolutely not. One of my friends

42:22

was like, I heard it was up

42:24

to 20. 20 I was like good

42:26

thing your kid hasn't started losing teeth

42:29

I was like you should probably circle

42:31

back to that I don't know who

42:33

you're talking to because again where do

42:36

you go from there if the tooth

42:38

fairies drop in 20s yeah where do

42:40

you like then what do you do

42:42

for their birthday like how do you

42:45

make that especially I don't I know

42:47

it's like a big thing but man

42:49

20s and the thing about that is

42:52

that I you know you want the

42:54

kid to be able to be able

42:56

to do something with the money which

42:59

is why five made sense to me

43:01

since to me but yeah like You

43:03

don't, like a six year old doesn't

43:06

need $20 to be excited. Like a

43:08

five, like a five is exciting to

43:10

a six year old, you know, like

43:13

at Passover, my kids found the Afi

43:15

Komen and they didn't even know that

43:17

you get money with it. It's literally

43:19

just Mata in an envelope and they

43:22

were excited, you know, because they found

43:24

the Matsu. It was one of the

43:26

cutest things on earth. My God, I

43:29

thought my ovaries were gonna. because the

43:31

kids were so excited about the Easter

43:33

egg hunt on spring's giving, I'm sorry,

43:36

spring's giving egg hunt, because the spring's

43:38

giving, Turkey left them, and that's what

43:40

I was trying to explain to care

43:43

is six-year-old, but it got her confused.

43:45

I was trying to explain that spring's

43:47

giving is different, but you know, the

43:49

six-year-old just wasn't getting a bit. But

43:52

here's the thing. They didn't care, even

43:54

though I painstaking painstakingingly, because the parents

43:56

had asked me. very nicely, which I

43:59

understood, to maybe not make all the

44:01

eggs candy, if I could. So I'm

44:03

sitting there, and I'm just like, I'm

44:06

high, then I pour them cutting up

44:08

all these sticker things, I'm trying to

44:10

get them stuffing all these eggs, doing

44:13

all the shit, and... The kids didn't

44:15

care about what was inside the eggs.

44:17

They just kept asking us to re-hide

44:20

the eggs so that they could go

44:22

find them. They just wanted to. And

44:24

then Cosmo told me, the kids have

44:26

now used the eggs, because she was

44:29

like, oh, I'll save the eggs, she's

44:31

like, oh, I'll save the eggs, she's

44:33

like, oh, I'll save the eggs for

44:36

next year. She was like, she was

44:38

like, oh, I'll save the eggs, they'll

44:40

hide goldfish and raisens. It's just fun.

44:43

It's great. In the same way, there

44:45

should be advent calendars for every month

44:47

or every month. Every other month, I

44:50

think that there needs to be more.

44:52

find them and get them games. I,

44:54

yeah, sure, you've got your hide and

44:56

seeks. But I see bump it up,

44:59

let's make it a betting game. No,

45:01

totally. There's, and there is a bit

45:03

of an arms race now, especially with

45:06

Easter. There's been a lot of discord,

45:08

parent discourse about Easter baskets, because of

45:10

course, in the age of social media,

45:13

it's just like, how pretty, how big,

45:15

how expensive, how Amazon affiliated, can you

45:17

make your Easter basket? And it's annoying.

45:20

and I don't remember what else like

45:22

it wasn't Fucking Christmas morning, you know,

45:24

but now it's like there's you're supposed

45:27

to do this whole thing where it's

45:29

full of shit and I'm not doing

45:31

that. I know honestly, I just realize

45:33

that my mom definitely Carmied the fuck

45:36

out of us and what does that

45:38

mean? Carmy, who is Henri and Natalie,

45:40

is like, I'm not gonna say my

45:43

favorite of the girls because I love

45:45

them both equally, but Carmy is really

45:47

crawled into my heart. And Carmy, oh

45:50

baby, she loves, she snorfs her food

45:52

so fast, she almost chokes to death.

45:54

So they have to hide when they're

45:57

doing the dry food, like her wet

45:59

food is regular, but when she gets

46:01

a little bit of kids. Her kids

46:03

have to be hidden inside of like

46:06

a, it looks like almost like a

46:08

taco salad and she has to go

46:10

and like snuff out all the kid,

46:13

like little kid bits. And I just

46:15

realize that's what my mom used to

46:17

do to us with our Easter baskets

46:20

because we would have all of the.

46:22

you know, the horrific, I mean, I'm

46:24

sure probably filled with lead or something

46:27

that used her grass that we used

46:29

to have when we were kids. Yeah.

46:31

And that was essentially like the horrific

46:34

tinsul from our childhoods. Yeah. And she

46:36

would just dump loosely the candy in

46:38

it. And I just remember like, well,

46:40

it was just like getting through there

46:43

because it was so funny because the

46:45

kids were... Like they were like, you're

46:47

allowed one piece of candy today. That's

46:50

what one of the parents had said

46:52

to their kids. And I was like,

46:54

man, when we were kids on Easter,

46:57

we were allowed to eat candy to

46:59

weep. Yeah. Like we were able to

47:01

eat candy from the second we woke

47:04

up to the second, like, I just

47:06

remember which was like, as if the

47:08

candy was gonna be bad by tomorrow.

47:10

I have eating issues. Yeah. But. I

47:13

just remembered I loved Easter because in

47:15

my brain that was you get to

47:17

eat candy all day. Yeah, no, I

47:20

used to turn Halloween and also, you

47:22

know, I think most of the kids,

47:24

the average age of the kids you

47:27

were with is three, at which point

47:29

I think you can set a limit

47:31

like that and it can go over

47:34

well. Maybe it's just my own kids.

47:36

If I set a one candy limit

47:38

on Easter, there would be, Christ would

47:41

come back to life and smite me.

47:43

You say that, I'm not going to

47:45

name witch child, child, but I would.

47:47

say I found a little secret hidey

47:50

hole of candy wrappers from a child

47:52

that is three and a half years

47:54

old that said that they only ate

47:57

one candy wrapper. Interesting how they already

47:59

know how to do that at three

48:01

and a half that they know how

48:04

to hide the candy wrappers and I

48:06

found the secret sash and I was

48:08

like, and then honestly I was impressed.

48:11

Yeah. So I didn't say that point,

48:13

it's a good for that. Absolutely. I

48:15

didn't say anything. That is the best

48:18

part about being an auntie. Mom's the

48:20

word. I know nothing. Yeah. No, I,

48:22

I, uh, we, you know, we, I

48:24

follow the rule of like, put some

48:27

shit in there that they'll need for

48:29

spring. So, you know, you get a

48:31

new swimsuit, you get some gags. Oh,

48:34

I love that. That's, you know, that

48:36

is the. in of the color, the

48:38

flavor, the life, and that's what Springs

48:41

Giving is all about. Exactly, exactly, but

48:43

it's not about a Louis Vuitton bag.

48:45

I just feel, I just, it's, I

48:48

know, I'm turning into, I'm too old

48:50

to comment on pop culture because I

48:52

just, I have to like skip a

48:54

generation. I don't see. I just want

48:57

to sit in a rocking chair and

48:59

look at these stories and be like,

49:01

that's sad. You know, but that's not,

49:04

that can't, that can't be the podcast,

49:06

but I just look at the Kardashians,

49:08

I look at this story, I look

49:11

at North going to Coachella, and I

49:13

just want to sit in a rocking

49:15

chair like a disgruntled old grandmother, and

49:18

I just want to say, that's sad

49:20

for them. Sad for them, it's sad

49:22

for them, it's sad for them, then

49:25

Affleck, because in the opposite... And I

49:27

saw this article this morning where Ben

49:29

Affleck refused to buy his son $6,000

49:31

sneakers because there was a picture that

49:34

was taken of him and his kid

49:36

at a sneaker convention and his kid

49:38

was holding up. I think that they

49:41

were Dior like specific like it was

49:43

like there were six thousand dollar shoes

49:45

and so everyone was making memes out

49:48

of this picture and so of course

49:50

on today with Jenna and friends which

49:52

really just makes me think of Garfield

49:55

and friends and I feel that I'm

49:57

upset every time I think about this

49:59

show and I'm like you're not Garfield

50:01

and friends get out in the field

50:04

and you're also not today I know

50:06

how it's been gone since January but

50:08

I'm sorry what is this what are

50:11

we doing here I'm glad for you

50:13

I guess I'm not, but whatever. But

50:15

yeah, it's, it's, it's, Kathy Lee is,

50:18

long live, Kathy Lee Gifford, long live

50:20

Hota, who's still alive, but it's, it

50:22

ain't the same. No, it's not, but

50:25

I do love that Ben Affleck certainly

50:27

was like. Uh, yeah, I wasn't gonna

50:29

buy my kids $6,000 shoes. He was

50:32

like, no. He's like, my older kids,

50:34

they're getting jobs. Like, his oldest kid

50:36

already has a job, the second oldest

50:38

already looking for a job. And the

50:41

kid, apparently right after the photo was

50:43

taken, said, come on, dad, we've got

50:45

the money. And he's like, no, I...

50:48

I've got the money, you're broke, put

50:50

the shoe down. And that's what, like

50:52

literally what he said to him. And

50:55

he's like, no man, he's like, you

50:57

go work, he's like, work a thousand

50:59

hours on something. If you work a

51:02

thousand hours on something. I'll get you

51:04

the shoes. Yeah. I bet though, at

51:06

the end of that thousand hours, you're

51:08

not going to want to spend the

51:11

money on the shoes. Yeah. So I

51:13

like that, but it's like, I know

51:15

that it is like an old geyser's

51:18

approach and I'm not saying, I don't,

51:20

I'm not here saying like, oh, pick

51:22

up your bootstraps, but I do love

51:25

that Bed Affleck is like, all right,

51:27

bro, no, no, no, no, no, no,

51:29

no. I work, I work, I work,

51:32

I work, I work, I work, I

51:34

work, I work, I work, I work,

51:36

I work, I work, I work, I

51:39

work, I work, I work, I work,

51:41

I work, I work, I work, I

51:43

work, I work, I work, I work,

51:45

I work, I work, I work, I

51:48

work, I work, I work, I work,

51:50

I work, I work, I work, I

51:52

work, I work, staring at pictures of

51:55

Sad Ben Affleck, that it was actually

51:57

just kind of nice to watch him

51:59

in an interview that I was like,

52:02

oh, I forgot what his voice sounded

52:04

like. It's crucial to watch videos of

52:06

him, because he is impossible to photograph.

52:09

He's like my black cat. Like you

52:11

can't take a good photo of him?

52:13

Yeah. Yeah! He looks like the world's

52:16

shittiest guy in a photograph, and then

52:18

you watch a video of Ben Affleck,

52:20

and you're like, you are a delight!

52:22

Yes! Oh my God, and then you

52:25

watch him speaking in Spanish, and you're

52:27

like, you are a delight, and then

52:29

you're like, you're a real delight. Yes,

52:32

but no, he's like such a fine

52:34

person, and the poor guy, just can't

52:36

stop. Yes, yeah, exactly. A good nap.

52:39

We need a good nap out here.

52:41

And we stand a good nap here

52:43

on page seven. And, you know, I

52:46

give my love to Jennifer Garner and

52:48

Ben Affleck's kids. Oh God, I love

52:50

them. And you know they were spending

52:52

springs given together. And you know it

52:55

was magical. Jen and Ben and the

52:57

headline for Jen and Ben. Jen Ben.

52:59

They are risen. But it's still just

53:02

co-parenting. It's just, it's so funny. I'm

53:04

so glad, MJ, that you see all

53:06

these now of how often they're like,

53:09

but did you see? They were walking

53:11

together. It's like, yes, they have children

53:13

together. They live near each other. They

53:16

copate. They actually, it seems like. co-parent

53:18

well together. And that's crazy because he

53:20

stopped the nanny. So it's like- I

53:23

can't believe that he stipped that. Yeah,

53:25

I was just saying at his praises

53:27

10 seconds ago, but then I remember

53:29

that he did stup the nanny, but-

53:32

Maybe growth, you know, maybe, I don't

53:34

know. People can grow, people can change,

53:36

obviously they have worked to get to

53:39

a place where they can co-parent to

53:41

this extent, so go for them. Yeah,

53:43

go for them. They seem to care

53:46

about each other, those kids seem happy

53:48

and supported, and I love that for

53:50

them. Yes, not as supported as Anne

53:53

Hathaway's face, oh, I said it. And

53:55

I mean that in a positive way,

53:57

look at how snatched her face looks.

53:59

everybody who's anybody and it's just like

54:02

man just let her be everybody's just

54:04

like oh my god did you see

54:06

how tight her face it but also

54:09

it was like is this not what

54:11

is happening guys why do we pick

54:13

and choose that we're like we'll never

54:16

ever comment on a woman's body again

54:18

so it's like you do that and

54:20

then in in the sit like you

54:23

just scroll down half a page and

54:25

you see an article like it's like

54:27

but How tight is our face! You're

54:30

right, there is now a cultural social

54:32

stigma on commenting on people's weight, which

54:34

I think is good in general, right?

54:36

But there is not the same stigma

54:39

for commenting on their faces, which I

54:41

perhaps makes. I don't know, I was

54:43

going to say maybe it makes sense

54:46

because people are usually commenting on like

54:48

work that people have gotten done or

54:50

whatever, but I don't know, Anne Hathaway,

54:53

first of all, yes, she's very tight

54:55

and it does look like she's like,

54:57

being like some sort of like giant

55:00

like air blower is being blown on

55:02

her and her face is being sucked

55:04

back Allah like Rocco's modern life when

55:06

they're in a rocket ship that goes

55:09

really fast. Yes, yes, great reference. But

55:11

here's a thing, I look at her

55:13

face and like. Not to be a

55:16

creepus here, but I am going to

55:18

say it's a positive call out of

55:20

a person who's not here. But Natalie

55:23

Jean also has a face this tight

55:25

and has never had work done. Yeah.

55:27

Like she is just diligent in what

55:30

she does. And like also in these

55:32

pictures, Anne Hathaway's face, her ponytail is

55:34

plastered back on her head. Yeah. If

55:37

anything, it's a Joe Joe Siwa tight

55:39

ponytail situation. For sure. Or like even,

55:41

I mean, maybe it's face tape tape

55:43

or something like that. I feel like

55:46

it is a look to do that.

55:48

Like you look at like, you know,

55:50

Don't she talks about how she uses

55:53

face tape and she also likes her

55:55

hair up and out and she likes

55:57

the way that it looks. And openly

56:00

talks about that. What's the problem with

56:02

it? I mean, what would it? What

56:04

would it matter if she had a

56:07

full fucking facelift? I mean, what does

56:09

it matter? You know, that's what she

56:11

wants to do. Right. But she

56:13

also, I just feel like, could

56:15

be very diligent with, I mean,

56:17

people that have been rich for

56:19

a long time, like an Anne

56:21

Hathaway like that, you know, is,

56:24

like, like, she really... has been

56:26

working on it. Yeah, she's really

56:28

been taking care of herself. Also,

56:30

she's only 42, so it's not

56:32

like, what do we, you know,

56:34

it's not like this skin to

56:36

be hanging off her face. I

56:38

know. She just looks tight. It

56:40

doesn't look like, yeah, this feels

56:42

so weird to talk about, because

56:44

it doesn't, like, yeah, this feels

56:47

so weird to talk about, because

56:49

it doesn't, even if she looks

56:51

so weird, real housewives face. She

56:53

just looks like she's she's been

56:56

tight enough. Real tight. She's a

56:58

tight lady to begin with. She's

57:00

tight lady. She's tight enough. She

57:02

died lady. Started tight. I don't

57:05

think that's a story. You know

57:07

exactly and it goes to show

57:09

that they're like man somebody just

57:11

needed to write an article off

57:13

but you think that but then

57:16

you see the same thing on

57:18

every single site. And I'm just

57:20

like guys get like Where are

57:22

the hot takes? Lots of stories

57:24

about his face. Yeah, lots. Yes,

57:26

so many of them. Honestly, I

57:28

wanted to see more about Kristen

57:30

Stewart's wedding. I wanted to see

57:32

more about that, except I didn't,

57:34

because the only pictures that have

57:36

been released are people that are

57:38

obviously, like, hiding in the trees.

57:40

trying to take pictures of her wedding, and

57:43

that's really fucking gross. Yeah. But of course

57:45

I do want to see it, but I

57:47

want to see the pictures they release of

57:49

it. Yeah, yeah. Kristen Stewart seems to be

57:51

a person who really desperately needs a break

57:53

from being in the public eye, and I

57:55

think that we can give that to her

57:57

here. But I will say I was kind

57:59

of. because Robert Patinson and Sukey Waterhouse

58:02

did go to the wedding and

58:04

I did was doing the like

58:06

a, ah, I was singing Twilight

58:08

to myself, even though I knew

58:10

they weren't together like good for

58:12

each other in real life, obviously,

58:14

but I'm happy that they're so

58:16

happy with each other and I'm

58:18

happy that they got to a

58:20

place that He went to the

58:22

wedding and I think it's nice.

58:24

Yeah, that is nice. That's nice

58:26

that their buddies. Yeah. And man,

58:28

then I just started thinking about

58:30

love lies bleeding. Go to the

58:32

Lord. Uh-oh. Sorry. I guess, man,

58:34

you just, you get me on

58:36

the slip and slide. It's difficult

58:38

to get me on. Yeah. Yeah.

58:41

No, I, I mean, once I'm

58:43

sleep. Oh. Please. Do you think

58:45

Jackie, do you think we should

58:47

talk about how the, how the

58:49

jam is bad or do you

58:51

know? It's really bad. I really,

58:53

I really, I didn't want to

58:55

include it. We have to talk

58:57

about how bad the jam is

58:59

from Megan Markle, like we have,

59:01

we, it is apparently real bad.

59:03

It's, it's, I pulled a couple

59:05

of quotes from this review and

59:07

I just, we have tried to

59:09

take the note, people don't always

59:11

enjoy us having a laugh at

59:13

Megan Markle and I hear you,

59:15

we see you and we appreciate

59:17

you and we appreciate you. And.

59:20

The jam is bad. The jam

59:22

is bad. The jam is bad.

59:24

I feel that like what I

59:26

love about this specific review is

59:28

that it was from people that

59:30

were like, okay, all the reviews

59:32

are absolutely brutal. So we decided

59:34

that like that we were going

59:36

to get like they got some.

59:38

They like these people got some

59:40

hard to get. We're only 50

59:42

very hard to get so they

59:44

they went out of their way

59:46

to make sure that they got

59:48

some. And then the whole staff

59:50

of this office tried it. And

59:52

please, yeah, you can read some

59:54

of the quotes MJ of their

59:56

reviews. Quote number one, did we

59:59

get a bad batch? Which is,

1:00:01

that's a hard way to start.

1:00:03

Quote number two, bad taste, bad

1:00:05

texture, bad memory. Yeah, so those

1:00:07

are three bad things about a

1:00:09

jam. It is described as runny,

1:00:11

which you don't want in a

1:00:13

jam. Maybe if you're using it

1:00:15

as like, you know, a glaze,

1:00:17

sure, but. I'm trying to, I'm

1:00:19

trying to pepper a little bit

1:00:21

of sunshine. Yes, in the interest

1:00:23

of being fair, there's also the

1:00:25

quote, it's fine. What glowing, wow,

1:00:27

and I hear, also, don't get

1:00:29

me wrong, we know Megan Markle

1:00:31

did not make the jam, so

1:00:33

we're not making fun of Megan

1:00:35

Markle. We're not making fun of

1:00:38

Megan Markle, we're making fun of

1:00:40

the team. the team that works

1:00:42

for her. Also, some great quotes

1:00:44

about the flower sprinkles, which she

1:00:46

does claim to put on all

1:00:48

of her children's food. That if

1:00:50

you've got to look up a

1:00:52

picture of the sprinkles because if

1:00:54

I put that my kids, I'll

1:00:56

put sprinkles on a good hack

1:00:58

is to put sprinkles on something

1:01:00

and that a kid might otherwise

1:01:02

be hesitant to eat like peanut

1:01:04

butter toast, put sprinkles on it.

1:01:06

Oh, so you just put sprinkles

1:01:08

on it? Yeah, and it does

1:01:10

work. And my kids are past

1:01:12

it now, but it really worked

1:01:14

for a while. It's great, sprinkle

1:01:17

toast, you know, it's great. But

1:01:19

these are, these are, these, if

1:01:21

I put these sprinkles, they're just,

1:01:23

they're not sprinkles, they're just flowers,

1:01:25

they're just edible flowers. They're just

1:01:27

like, flower shovels. And my kids

1:01:29

love flowers, maybe I should try

1:01:31

it, maybe they would eat it,

1:01:33

but I don't know if they

1:01:35

would. But anyway, the quote for

1:01:37

them is, it tastes like cardboard

1:01:39

soaked and perfume. And another, $8

1:01:41

for flower sprinkles, so it's not

1:01:43

like the jam, it's not the

1:01:45

limited. It's also, that's the thing.

1:01:47

If you're going to do something

1:01:49

that is limited to dish, aren't

1:01:51

you assuming you're going to be

1:01:53

getting like the best of what

1:01:55

you're making? I would assume you're

1:01:58

going to make more than 50

1:02:00

and you're at least going to

1:02:02

be like making sure like, you

1:02:04

know, where's the like the quality,

1:02:06

you know, making sure that the

1:02:08

quality is good. And I would

1:02:10

assume if someone's going to be

1:02:12

selling jam. this exclusively that you

1:02:14

would assume that the jam was

1:02:16

going to be really good. And

1:02:18

I didn't expect to make fun

1:02:20

of her because of the jam.

1:02:22

Yeah, yeah. And I can't, I

1:02:24

guess. I would encourage Megan Markle

1:02:26

to keep making your jam, if

1:02:28

this is what you're passionate about,

1:02:30

keep doing your show, if this

1:02:32

is what you're passionate about. And

1:02:34

also, I truly would encourage her

1:02:37

to, like, she is the most

1:02:39

charismatic and talented person in the

1:02:41

royal family right now, and you

1:02:43

could even set your sites even

1:02:45

higher than this runny jam. Like,

1:02:47

you could do some of the,

1:02:49

man, more, I know they did,

1:02:51

they did good stuff for the

1:02:53

fires and stuff. But like, like,

1:02:55

Diane, I'd like to do a

1:02:57

lot of humanitarian projects and I

1:02:59

know that Megan was very interested

1:03:01

in that. Oh, you're comparing them.

1:03:03

MJ, you're comparing them! I'm really

1:03:05

try, I'm trying to live and

1:03:07

let live, do your jam, have

1:03:09

fun with your jam. And keep

1:03:11

working on it. Jammed, yeah, man.

1:03:13

If the reviews are bad at

1:03:16

first, you make you don't, you

1:03:18

don't silence yourself, don't make yourself

1:03:20

smaller for that Megan Markle. Make

1:03:22

more jam, all right, but, but,

1:03:24

but, but, but, but, but also.

1:03:26

you could even work on other

1:03:28

societal projects even bigger than the

1:03:30

jam is all I'm saying. Whoa,

1:03:32

bigger than Jim, you mean dream

1:03:34

big? Oh, I thought you meant

1:03:36

doing like a reboot of stronger

1:03:38

than the storm, the song that

1:03:40

they released in New York that

1:03:42

we had to listen to all

1:03:44

the time after the hurricane, but

1:03:46

we call it bigger than the

1:03:48

gym. And that's what she should

1:03:50

do. She should get into music

1:03:52

making. I'd like her to see

1:03:55

maybe... like, oh, maybe she'll start

1:03:57

working with Queen's of the Stone

1:03:59

Age, you know, like I think

1:04:01

that that's what she needs. Yeah,

1:04:03

it might be. you know, just

1:04:05

like a rock and roll remake.

1:04:07

That's what I've been asking for

1:04:09

for Megan Markle, and I think

1:04:11

that's what's going to be next,

1:04:13

her in jinkos. She is, I

1:04:15

will say, she is receptive to

1:04:17

feedback. She changed the name American

1:04:19

Riviera Orchard, that's another story from

1:04:21

this week, because she said it's

1:04:23

word salad. So I hope she's

1:04:25

not listening to Page Seven. reads

1:04:27

every comment, and I get it,

1:04:29

Hilaria. Comments aren't fun, but Hilaria

1:04:31

reads every comment, responds to every

1:04:34

comment, makes videos about every comment.

1:04:36

She's so upset about the comments.

1:04:38

She's so upset that people know

1:04:40

that she's not Spanish, and it's

1:04:42

getting to her. It's getting to

1:04:44

Hilaria, she's getting weirder by the

1:04:46

day, and I really do, I

1:04:48

mean, I'm not being sarcastic, I

1:04:50

wish peace and happiness on Megan

1:04:52

Markle. Make you, See where she

1:04:54

shines. In a way, yes, that

1:04:56

I don't support Hilaria because Hilaria

1:04:58

is only just, I mean, she

1:05:00

did a whole television show to

1:05:02

try and by the end of

1:05:04

it be like, but guys, I

1:05:06

am Hispanic, right? And it's just

1:05:08

like, nah, dude, eight hours later,

1:05:10

nah, you're still not. Okay, well,

1:05:13

we'll just continue. She made this

1:05:15

video this week that she's like

1:05:17

everyone loves to gossip. I'm dedicating

1:05:19

my book to all the people

1:05:21

who've ever been gossiped about. Which

1:05:23

is interesting because she also just

1:05:25

said I'm dedicating my book to

1:05:27

anyone who has a story. And

1:05:29

in my brain, I was like,

1:05:31

fuck off bitch. Oh, anyone who

1:05:33

has a story who also marries

1:05:35

a multi-millionaire who can let her

1:05:37

just do Pilates every day until

1:05:39

she writes a book and then

1:05:41

she dies. You know what I

1:05:43

mean? And not that I'm saying

1:05:45

that I wish that a monster.

1:05:47

I'm just saying that like not

1:05:49

everybody has that ability. Okay. who

1:05:51

you dedicating the book to? And

1:05:54

I guess MJ and I will

1:05:56

find out because I believe it

1:05:58

drops May 5th. Yeah, it's September

1:06:00

and early May. Manuel, not included.

1:06:02

Manuel included Manuel. But first we're

1:06:04

reading Julia Fox. So you're going

1:06:06

to have to wait. Elardia, we're

1:06:08

all going to have to wait.

1:06:10

But thank God, we don't have

1:06:12

to continue watching the Baldwin's. I

1:06:14

will just throw it out there.

1:06:16

I know that we got to

1:06:18

start wrapping up here, but man,

1:06:20

the last of of us. Oh

1:06:22

baby. I haven't said aloud yet

1:06:24

that I'm still caught up with

1:06:26

the current last of us and

1:06:28

they are, it's doing a great

1:06:30

job. And again, coming from somebody

1:06:33

who I still know, not one

1:06:35

thing about the video game and

1:06:37

I really am enjoying it. And

1:06:39

also, let's just see where Nathan

1:06:41

Fielder goes with the rehearsal and

1:06:43

he is, it's all about plane

1:06:45

crashes. So it is. Interesting, man,

1:06:47

that first episode, I was like,

1:06:49

wow, I love that Nathan Fielder

1:06:51

is like, okay, you're gonna give

1:06:53

me the money? I'm gonna do

1:06:55

exactly what I want with it.

1:06:57

And he is. And it's fun

1:06:59

to watch. It's why I've watched

1:07:01

now every single episode of everybody's

1:07:03

live with John Malaney. Also, what

1:07:05

an awesome, amazing experiment. to get

1:07:07

to watch. It is, to me,

1:07:09

very inspiring of what we can

1:07:12

do and what we can shoot

1:07:14

for. And I just want to

1:07:16

say it's... always fun to watch

1:07:18

things that help encourage you to

1:07:20

dream bigger and especially in a

1:07:22

time when right now it makes

1:07:24

you think like oh all your

1:07:26

dumb dream big like what is

1:07:28

it fucking matter everything is so

1:07:30

horrible but it's those things that

1:07:32

keep us going guys we gotta

1:07:34

just keep going forward being good

1:07:36

to ourselves being good to other

1:07:38

people making fun thing make a

1:07:40

jam making I guess you make

1:07:42

your runny jam guys if you

1:07:44

gotta get the jam out, get

1:07:46

the lead out. Make your jam

1:07:48

and just also try to, like,

1:07:51

it's like one eye on the

1:07:53

jam, one eye outward is all

1:07:55

I'm asking, right? One eye on

1:07:57

your jam projects. If you could,

1:07:59

yeah, just distance them. Give them

1:08:01

a little, you know, like we

1:08:03

want to be working on our,

1:08:05

like, like our inner jam is

1:08:07

important. And then also we, you

1:08:09

know, I think we owe it

1:08:11

to society and these times to

1:08:13

also look beyond the jam and

1:08:15

see if there's anything else. give

1:08:17

blood, whatever the fuck little thing

1:08:19

is, but don't need a suitcase

1:08:21

to a, you know, migrant shelter,

1:08:23

whatever you can do that's just

1:08:25

ever so slightly beyond the jam

1:08:27

while also making your jam because

1:08:30

we deserve to do what makes

1:08:32

us happy and we also got

1:08:34

to help people. Yes, yes, thank

1:08:36

you so much MJ for hanging

1:08:38

out. with me today. And man,

1:08:40

we didn't even get into, I

1:08:42

guess there's not much to discuss

1:08:44

about the fact that Viola Davis

1:08:46

admitted to following Merrill's street into

1:08:48

the bathroom and then went into

1:08:50

the stall that she went into

1:08:52

after she used it just so

1:08:54

she could smell her. She did

1:08:56

admit that, but honestly, it just

1:08:58

makes me like Viola Davis more.

1:09:00

Yeah, though, that's a very, very

1:09:02

sweet story. Also, I think we've

1:09:04

all had the experience of like

1:09:06

walking, being in mid conversation with

1:09:08

a Are we a level of

1:09:11

friendship where we can hear each

1:09:13

other pee or should I leave?

1:09:15

And also talk through the pee.

1:09:17

Yeah. I feel like that is

1:09:19

also a different level of friendship

1:09:21

if you're both actively pissing and

1:09:23

you still talk through the piss.

1:09:25

Or if one person's pissing, one's

1:09:27

pissing, and you still talk through

1:09:29

the piss. Or if one person's

1:09:31

pissing, one's not, I just saw

1:09:33

one person's pissing, one's not. I

1:09:35

just saw one of my best

1:09:37

friends, but I hadn't seen. Apparently

1:09:39

I just followed you in here

1:09:41

to hear you pee and that

1:09:43

was what and that was what

1:09:45

I was thinking about when Viola

1:09:47

Davis told this story about Merrill

1:09:50

Street But like saying that to

1:09:52

Merrill Street, you know, I love

1:09:54

I just yeah, I guess I

1:09:56

just followed you in here. Sorry,

1:09:58

you know, but you but It's

1:10:00

also, it's so funny, because exactly,

1:10:02

make that joke, break that ice,

1:10:04

and we just keep on, keep

1:10:06

it on, everybody, we. can keep

1:10:08

on keeping on everybody and just

1:10:10

don't think about Elizabeth early and

1:10:12

Billy Rice Iris too much all

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