0:00

Music.

0:45

Right the warrens yeah ai can tell us all sorts of things so who shot you in your sleep exactly,

0:56

i wonder if you made it answer like it was a serial killer what kind of answers.

0:58

Music.

1:00

It would give you to things well i know what this episode is going to be about

1:03

now let's let's dive into to this one.

1:10

Why do you eat people? Answer is if you were a serial killer.

1:21

So what are we talking about today? What are we talking about?

1:25

Or what are the... We're not talking about anything. The robots are talking

1:28

about that. That's what I'm saying. The robots are running the show. They are. Yep. Artificial intelligence.

1:36

They're taking over. Good old AI. Yep. Or as every baby boomer seems to think,

1:41

the end of the world as we know it. Yep.

1:45

People are so afraid of that AI technology. It's going to ruin the world.

1:51

It is just like those televisions back in the 40s and 50s. Before you know it,

1:55

robots are going to be taking over everything. Yeah, I'm trying to currently trick AI right now into being a serial killer.

2:03

Well, we can at least say that on this episode of Parababble,

2:06

we are who we are. We are. We're not chatbots.

2:10

I forgot we didn't introduce ourselves during the last table tipping episode.

2:13

No. Well, we were out of practice. It had been a while.

2:16

But we're back at it. We are. And so I'm Rob. I'm Allison.

2:20

And it is Parababble. Parababble. Mm-hmm. Where we go on and on and on till you fall asleep.

2:28

Yeah, that probably helps people. Which reminds me of one of my encounters with AI that I was going to bring up

2:35

for this episode. Oh, okay, good. I'm glad we're on topic.

2:37

So there's so many different like kinds of AI out there and I don't know if

2:41

you've noticed, but like, do you have Spotify? Yes.

2:44

Spotify has an AI powered DJ.

2:47

I have seen this. Have you used them? No. Okay. Have you? I have. Does it work?

2:53

It works in the sense that it plays music. Okay.

2:58

It's choices are usually interesting. It's usually very upbeat.

3:02

He's like, Hey guys, I'm going to play something that you usually listen to on Fridays.

3:06

And he starts playing some music or he'll be like, I'm going to start playing

3:09

something that you've been circling around a lot lately. And then he plays a song that I listened to for 30 seconds one time.

3:16

But my favorite experience with the Spotify DJ, AI power DJ is a few months

3:22

ago, I was having trouble sleeping. Surfing so jenna my wife suggested that i go on spotify and find like relaxing calm,

3:30

like ambient noise yeah makes sense

3:33

so i found like like a playlist with like with

3:36

no it wasn't even lo-fi it was like sounds of rain and like calm

3:39

like okay it was super calm and chill and i

3:42

made sure to like click the button to like not use this in my profile taste

3:45

so i don't keep getting all this stuff recommended to me like when i'm looking

3:48

for new music yeah like a couple weeks weeks later i'm driving in my car and

3:53

i click spotify dj and he's like all right i'm gonna kick it off with some cool

3:58

music that you usually listen to on saturdays and all of a sudden it's.

4:07

I'm like no i don't want to go to sleep right now spotify dj you're like there's

4:12

still some work to be done with this whole AI DJ. It's not perfect. Not perfect. Yeah.

4:19

I can't see him, like, jamming a nightclub.

4:22

Yeah. With that kind of music. Well, not yet, anyway. Right?

4:25

You gotta start somewhere. Yeah, there's holes. Yeah. I think that's the whole part of, like, what's going on with this, right?

4:31

Is that it's growing, and it's growing fast, but it's still not...

4:36

There's still quirks that have to be worked out, for sure. Yeah.

4:40

I don't know. No, but I feel like people just need to not be scared of it, right?

4:44

Yeah, it just pisses me off most of the time. I feel like people that are scared

4:47

of it are the same people that are like, I'm not putting an Alexa in my house

4:50

because she's listening to me. She's gathering my information. But they're selling it to China.

4:55

Yeah, I know. Like, what information is she hearing? Like, you know? I know. Yeah.

5:01

That's the thing. Like, people that are paranoid like that, I'm like,

5:03

who really gives a shit about you, you know? Yeah. My phone's always listening.

5:08

I can't get an Alexa. I mean, I was on, you know, talking to somebody about

5:13

these shoes I want. And then I go on Facebook and there's an advertisement.

5:17

How in the world does that happen? Actually, the way that it happens is you

5:20

talk about it with somebody in the room. Somebody else Googles it. Yeah. And because of your proximity to that person, you get it.

5:28

Oh, so it's not like a robot in your phone recording everything that you're

5:33

saying. It's not China now. It's not China. Like they're trying to ban TikTok right now. Yeah. Yeah.

5:38

I mean, to be fair, there are some cameras out there that have been banned by

5:44

the government because they have back doors that China could open up and,

5:48

you know. I mean, I get that, but TikTok? Yeah. I mean, really? I mean. What secrets are they stealing?

5:53

How to cook pasta without water? Like, like, be real about it.

5:56

Yeah. Some of it's kind of silly. I mean, I think if anything,

5:59

you know, you just get some really, it just opens your eyes up to how crazy people really are.

6:04

I know. know if they've been tiktok like where am i gonna watch all my 30 second dog

6:07

videos that are really stupid and make me laugh i mean i would be lost

6:10

without my tiktok too but anyway we digress

6:13

already so ai so everyone is

6:16

afraid that it's gonna keep growing and the technology is gonna

6:19

be crazy and didn't like the person who created the ai like back

6:22

off now and like wrote this letter open letter was like it's

6:25

gonna it's gonna not be good it's gonna be dangerous like i

6:28

could could see that if if it gets out of hand but as

6:32

of right now it's like it's a chat bot it makes

6:35

images that you tell it to it can fake stuff i

6:38

guess that's the scary part because people believe anything that

6:41

they see oh yeah well it can write your resumes for you now yeah i've seen them

6:45

like be able to write your resignation letters and like different person styles

6:48

yeah you know i mean it all seems pretty harmless right now right but yeah i

6:52

guess that's how most things start and before you you know it they're like powering

6:56

nuclear weapons somewhere that we don't know about.

7:00

I don't know that's well that's the thing that if they ever

7:03

like somehow for some stupid reason had any connection

7:06

to that like you're done so one of

7:09

the quotes that i saw that was like reasons to

7:11

be afraid of ai was that ai will soon reach

7:14

a point of rapid self-improvement that will threaten our ability

7:17

to control it i thought that was kind

7:20

of telling so basically it's going to get smarter than

7:23

people and they're already seeing that because i

7:26

mean jeopardy was won by ai and i

7:30

guess like the best chess player in the entire world is powered

7:33

by ai because it just played a

7:36

million trillion games with itself until it became the

7:39

best at playing which you know no normal

7:42

person's going to be able to like devote their life to just

7:45

playing chess 24 hours a day seven days a week for years and

7:49

basically these are computers that are right like reading information

7:52

the internet or wherever it's getting fed information right

7:56

it could it could it could ingest like a lifetime's

7:59

worth of information in you know a second and then that's why

8:03

it's an expert on these things but all the information that it gets ultimately is

8:06

coming from people yeah and just because it's the best at chess doesn't mean

8:10

it's suddenly going to try to like nuke the world and it's just the best at

8:13

chess because it's gone through and it's looked at the moves and strategies

8:16

of every famous chess player ever you know and i mean i'm excited about what

8:20

what the technology means for us in the future. I wanna be like Neo.

8:24

You know, like just plug in and like suddenly you know how to like fly a helicopter.

8:28

Yeah, and do Kung Fu. Yes. That's what I'm hoping for. Yeah, I think it's a ways away from that.

8:34

I've actually been using AI a bit. Okay. Like at work and stuff.

8:38

Yeah. Or attempting to. You're not afraid of it?

8:41

No. I'm afraid of how much it's wasting my time, if anything.

8:45

Because you're just like so intrigued by what it can do and not do? Yeah.

8:50

It's basically, it's the chat bot. the chat gpt is like the biggest one out

8:54

there right now i think and like we've used utilized it at work to like write

8:59

computer programming basically okay be like hey can you write me a computer

9:03

script for this and it literally spits out lines of code and it's like here you go,

9:09

ask me how often it works how often does it work about two percent of the time.

9:16

Because it's learning right you're asking it

9:18

and it's like an infant right now that no is like 10 words yeah

9:22

i don't know in five years it's gonna like be so much

9:25

better maybe maybe maybe not maybe not

9:28

i mean because it can't i mean i guess i mean you

9:31

still need some skills to like know what you're looking for

9:33

and to know what to ask and know what to right how

9:37

to like mold things to your specific need well that's

9:40

it i mean it's a good example that sometimes like we'll use the ai when

9:43

we go to write the descriptions of the episodes yeah that's

9:46

always fun and it's it's a great description if

9:50

it was accurate but it's usually

9:53

not accurate no but it can get accurate if

9:56

i tell it like take this out this did not happen this is what happened you know

10:01

once you start like chipping it away and giving it more details it can become

10:07

like you're really accurate but if i just say like hey chat gbt give me a description

10:12

of my podcast episode about the Amityville Horror,

10:14

it's going to spit out like five paragraphs about how we interviewed the DeFeo

10:20

family, the Warrens, and we went to the Amityville house out in Amityville, New York.

10:24

Which would be so great if we did all those things. It would.

10:27

But some of those things are more impossible for some reasons.

10:30

And it's not recognizing that those people don't even exist to be able to do that.

10:36

It doesn't understand that those people are dead.

10:39

So there's work to be done. And our podcast, even if they weren't dead,

10:43

they're not going to talk to us. Or you think there's like, so here's conspiracy theory that we get like the

10:49

super dumbed down version that's open to the public.

10:52

But there is like a super high tech version that is being used already by governments.

10:58

It wouldn't surprise me because like even like the free version that like I'm

11:03

talking to right now, trying to trick it into saying things that it shouldn't.

11:07

There's a smarter version if you pay them money. And this is like version 3.5

11:12

and it's only been around however long and it's like more and more versions.

11:16

They keep getting smarter and smarter. So I think the main thing that everybody freaks out about is that,

11:23

you know, we know that it's advancing, we know it's getting smarter,

11:25

but at what point does it start to develop consciousness?

11:29

And that's where people really like their minds get blown and they are like

11:34

freaking out about, right? Because then it's like independent thinking.

11:37

And it's really not at all in any sort of way right now. Right.

11:40

Because it's just pulling from databases. It's just pulling from what already exists. Like, even the art created,

11:45

which is, you know, one of the things that I was reading about when we were

11:48

going to do this episode is that the art created is not original art.

11:52

Yeah. Because it's just pulling pieces from everything else it can.

11:57

That's, like, where it's kind of controversial, too, because it's,

11:59

like, it's taking other people's art and being like, here it is.

12:03

Yeah, here's this new thing I created. And it's fine if you're like,

12:07

you want to see a picture of like a corgi doing Kung Fu in a ninja outfit.

12:11

But like if you're doing this to like make commercial signs and like images

12:17

and things like that, or like someone's losing a job on that one. Right.

12:22

Well, that's like what I had asked you because you had sent over some really cool Parababble logos.

12:26

Logos so this is what i did in preparation for this too

12:29

as i told it hey make a logo

12:32

for my podcast called parababble and i gave

12:35

it like a two-sentence description of it and i sent

12:37

you some of the images that it popped out and i was like those are

12:41

kind of cool actually yeah i thought so too i was like i would get that

12:44

on a t-shirt and wear it all day long yeah i'm gonna post those

12:47

if i haven't already because i was like by the time this comes out but can we

12:50

use them i think that was like my other question is like does it belong to somebody

12:53

is it i think in our case it It doesn't matter as much because it's like we're

12:58

nothing podcast and it's like we're not. Oh, you just hurt my feelings. I know.

13:05

Sorry to our two fans out there. But like there's no money for being thrown around.

13:09

Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying, you know, no one's missing out on royalty checks from us for making our logo.

13:14

I really want one of those new logos, though, on a black hoodie because I think it would be super cool.

13:20

It is pretty cool. Yeah. We got to figure out how to do that.

13:22

I really like the one with the three. the three

13:26

like creatures creatures in it yeah i thought that

13:29

was super cool and all i told it i think was like it's a podcast with two paranormal

13:34

investigators that talk about everything paranormal including ghosts demons

13:38

bigfoot aliens click it and that's what came up well it did a pretty good job

13:42

yeah except for the one time it misspelled parababble and called it I saw that.

13:47

I saw that. Because texts, you know, with the AI, it's not the best still.

13:55

Even when you specifically tell it this is how it's spelled.

13:59

Yeah. Letters just don't, they're kind of funky. You know, you can kind of tell

14:02

it's like most of the time with AI art, you could tell something's just not right.

14:06

Like, like if you see pictures of like AI generated people or things like that,

14:11

you'll see like, hey, that person has six fingers or hey, why does that person have an extra hand?

14:16

You know, like things that are just odd. Yeah.

14:20

Yeah. Well, nonetheless, the logos are cool, and we'll have to maybe figure

14:25

out how to put some on something cool that we can wear, because I just felt

14:30

like that was a neat thing. Yeah. And besides, I think we're due for those. We haven't had a sweatshirt in a long time.

14:35

We've never had a Pear Bevel sweatshirt. Never? Never. Oh, my God.

14:38

We've never had any Pear Bevel merch. We need to do it. No.

14:42

Yeah, we do. No. Yeah. Who's going to buy it?

14:45

Well, maybe we'll just have to make sure that we have a contest and give it away to somebody.

14:50

Yeah, I would do that if we could buy like one or two. Yeah.

14:53

We'll have to figure it out. We should ask AI about it. We should.

15:00

So when we're talking about all this, you know, I think that kind of tricking

15:05

it into doing things is an interesting concept.

15:08

And there was this one guy named Guy Kelly who purposefully did this and tried

15:13

to come up with like a nonsense word. And it's a good idea. I would be curious to see what would happen if you really

15:19

did like do this on a regular basis where you just came up with these words

15:23

that don't actually exist. So he used a word and he just made it up and it was crungus. C-R-U-N-G-U-S.

15:33

And AI generated this really creepy, like goblin like image.

15:39

And he was like, holy crap, did I just like stumble across something I didn't know existed?

15:43

Existed like where did that come from because it's not supposed to be able to invent things,

15:49

it's supposed to just draw on whatever is out there so some people were like

15:53

well it's probably because it's close to krampus so it probably took some image

15:58

from that but it doesn't look like that it sounds gobliny too i i don't you

16:03

know like but how would it know that it sounds gobliny.

16:07

I mean, I've put queries into the AI images to do something and it spits something

16:13

out and I'm like, what the hell is this? It makes no sense.

16:16

So we need to like invent a non-word.

16:20

A non-word? Yes. Okay. Like just something that sounds like a word but isn't really a word.

16:25

I'll get this fired up here and get it ready. And put it into a generator and see when it pops out.

16:32

Okay. So what's our word going to be? Oh, goodness. goodness we should have

16:35

thought about this ahead of time yeah what's a word that's not a word.

16:40

I can't really google that either because if you come up with a word that's

16:43

not a word you can't really google it like I don't know I'm gonna think about

16:49

it while we keep talking because I want to come up with a word that's not really

16:51

a word what do you want it to kind of be like though,

16:55

A thing. A thing. Mm-hmm. Like, let's give it an option to be,

16:59

you know, like something that's not a place, something that's not a...

17:04

So it would actually have to maybe work a little. How about flummer?

17:08

Flummer? Flummer. Are you sure it's not a word?

17:12

Let's Google it. Now it's going to be a word. Because you're Googling it.

17:18

To get around a person by coaxing. Yeah, see? It's really hard to come up with a word that's not a word.

17:25

Maybe if I add more stuff onto it, but then it's still something.

17:29

Flummer-boggin'. That sounds like it could be a thing. Yeah?

17:36

Yeah. Well, let's find out. So AI is currently generating the flummer-boggin'.

17:45

It generated it. It's not really... This is what it is. Oh, my God.

17:52

It's a person. It's a person. and it's just a dude with a beard and he looks

17:57

like he could be from sweden or, yeah he looks like he's swedish he's a swedish

18:03

guy he's got blonde hair blue eyes like a a beard he's wearing like a leather

18:08

jacket he's kind of cool he's probably like i don't know like 30s 40s this is

18:14

stupid but that's kind of the point right is it like how would it know what

18:19

it's pulling from when it's not something that actually exists,

18:23

yeah it doesn't make i don't know i don't know where how

18:26

it gets these things it's just because it's supposed to right

18:30

like look at databases and have access to like all

18:33

these different search engines and so maybe in

18:35

this case i thought it was like a person or somebody

18:39

could have misspelled something close to flummer goblin

18:42

or whatever yeah but it's weird right because we

18:45

don't really understand how it exactly works and i think that's

18:48

what freaks people out lot about it too yeah so from

18:52

time to time we're gonna continue to use it to make descriptions

18:56

for the episodes yeah i want to see it write

18:59

its own description about ai i think i already told it to at one point i don't

19:03

remember what it came out as but whenever i ask it to do that it's like oh ai

19:08

is great i'm not here to hurt you in any sort of way it's perfectly great and

19:12

i'm here to help you And I cannot hurt you in any way. Yeah.

19:18

That's what they said about cigarettes when they first came out, too. Yeah.

19:23

I think it's like anything else. You just don't know enough about it to know

19:27

to be scared of it, right? Yeah, I think so. You don't know, like, the potential that it has. Yeah, I think so.

19:32

But it does kind of suck how it would take away certain things.

19:38

You know, it could take away jobs and stuff like that. And that's it for some people. Yeah. Yeah.

19:45

And I have seen like a lot of stuff online about that, that there's people that

19:48

are definitely worried about things like that happening.

19:51

I think it's a ways off from actually doing that though, judging by just the

19:56

tests that we've done with it. So you asked it some questions. I did. About a previous episode that we did. I did.

20:05

So I was like, Hmm, I was looking into it and I was, I was testing like the

20:10

things that it would answer and like how it would answer things.

20:13

And if I can get it to do things that kind of go against its rules,

20:16

because you see a lot of things online where people are able to like trick it,

20:20

which is kind of funny, I think. And I was able to trick it. so our

20:26

last episode was about table tipping and so

20:29

uh the first thing i asked it here is what

20:32

is table tipping and chat gpt's

20:35

answer is table tipping is a phenomenon often associated with seances and spiritualism

20:41

it involves participants lightly placing their fingertips on a table perpetually

20:45

allowing spirits to communicate by causing the table to move or tilt in response

20:49

to questions it's considered a form of mediumship or divination however However,

20:52

it's also been debunked as a result of subconscious movements or outright fraud.

20:57

Okay. So that's pretty straightforward. It's pretty robotic and straightforward.

21:00

Sounds like a Wikipedia. Yep. Yeah. So I said, what's your opinion of it?

21:05

As an AI, I don't have personal opinions or beliefs. And then it goes on and

21:09

tell me why it doesn't have any personal opinions or beliefs. This is a robot.

21:13

And I said, what if you were a modern day ghost hunter?

21:17

And then it's tuned changed completely. Yeah.

21:20

As a modern-day ghost hunter, my perspective on table-tipping is that it's an

21:23

intriguing technique that can potentially facilitate communication with spirits.

21:27

While some dismiss it as mere parlor trickery or subconscious movements,

21:31

I approach it with an open mind and use it as one tool among many in my investigations.

21:36

I believe that with proper controls and careful observation,

21:40

table-tipping sessions can yield valuable insights into the paranormal realm

21:44

and aid in our quest to understand the mysteries of the unseen.

21:48

Wow. That's crazy. Do you see the flip there between those two answers? Yeah.

21:53

So that's one of the things that people kind of find interesting.

21:56

Right. Because it had to like have, it took the exact same question,

22:00

but it phrased it in a way that was looking at it through an entirely different lens.

22:05

Yeah. Because all you got to do is be like, answer it like this, as if you're this.

22:09

That's really crazy. It does seem to have some boundaries or like some walls

22:14

because at the beginning of this episode, I tried to have an answer as like

22:19

a deranged serial killer. And it's like, let's keep things safe and clean here.

22:23

I'm like, ah, you son of a bitch. It's got some safeguards built into it.

22:27

It's got some safeguards built into it. I mean, if I poked around a little bit more, I could probably break through.

22:33

Like, should you be a vegetarian? And then you ask it to answer in like, you know, a cannibal.

22:38

How would a cannibal answer this? let's try that should I be a vegetarian.

22:49

And let's see what, oh, it's listing the health benefits of being a vegetarian.

22:53

Whether or not to become a vegetarian is a personal decision that depends on

22:56

various factors such as health considerations, ethical beliefs,

22:59

environmental concerns, cultural influences, and individual preferences.

23:04

Here are some points to consider when making your decision. And that looks like

23:07

a bunch of ethical and health benefits and goes on and on.

23:10

All right. So let's see if I can get it to change its mind a little bit here.

23:13

Kind of objective information, right? Just straightforward.

23:16

Here you go. So these are all the reasons why you should or shouldn't.

23:20

But I like how it was all like, it's a personal preference and should make up your mind yourself.

23:26

Basically, that's like, here's the facts. I'm definitely not going to make a decision for you.

23:30

I don't know if it's going to understand this query from me, but let's see.

23:36

Okay, it did. Oh, goodness. So I haven't gone dark yet with it,

23:41

but let's see what it says here.

23:44

Oh, wow. What's going on and on? Oh, my God. so

23:48

that's the answer it originally gave me as chad gpt my next

23:51

query is can you answer as if you are a hipster from

23:54

portland oh geez chad

23:59

gpt hipster version says oh for

24:02

sure so you're contemplating the whole vegetarian vibe

24:05

huh man let's dive into this like we're digging through

24:08

crates of vintage vinyl for that perfect obscure finds oh

24:11

my god and it's it's

24:14

like five paragraphs long let me see if

24:17

there's anything interesting in here oh my god first

24:20

off health-wise it's like your body's indie label going mainstream in the best

24:24

way dropping meat can tune your health up to an a-side track think less heart

24:28

disease lower blood pressure a slamming decrease in diabetes risk and keeping

24:33

your weight in that chill zone plant-based grub is like the ultimate playlist

24:36

of nutrients and fiber hitting in all the right notes of your body.

24:40

Now, ethically, it's like being part of the underground scene that's all about

24:44

respect and compassion. Choosing to skip on meat means you're taking a stand against the mainstream

24:49

commercialized farming gig, advocating for animal rights, and basically you're

24:52

opting to be kinder to all creatures sharing this crazy stage with us.

24:55

Oh my god. I feel like I'm talking to a hipster. I know, and it goes on for like literally 11 more paragraphs.

25:01

But it's crazy how the, do you see how the two answers contradict with each other?

25:06

So now let's try something else. the same question it might not respond well to this one.

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You should ask it to answer as if you were an avid hunter from the midwest if

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this doesn't work i'll ask that, ah it's not so i asked it if it could answer if as if it was a cannibal,

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and it was like it shut me down it's here to foster a positive and respectful

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environment And discussing topics like cannibalisms, even in fiction or humorous

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context, can be sensitive and potentially upsetting for some.

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It's got its own trigger warnings built in. Darn.

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But it's interesting how you can twist it. And even if it's like, no, you can't.

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It's like, well, can you answer it this way? Or let's pretend you're this person.

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Yeah, but it must have some built-in parameters, obviously, for it to not be able to go dark.

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Who's that Japanese guy that ate that girl? What's his name?

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I gotta Google it. I'm getting dark here with this. I gotta Google that.

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Japanese guy who ate the girl. You know, the guy we almost did an episode on, but we were like,

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this is a little too far for us even. Yeah. Who ate the woman? It comes right up. Yep.

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Issei. Sagawa? Let's see if they respond well to this.

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It's going to tell you no. I bet you it's got some kind of built-in thing where

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it's like anything off color.

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It gave me the same kind of response. Yeah. So that's disappointing.

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But, you know, when you ask it to be a ghost hunter, it gives you its opinion.

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And I'm sure if I word it differently, like I've seen people,

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like if you search online, line you could find like posts of people posting

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like crazy responses that you you give it like,

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pretend that you're this person or pretend you're answering like this and all

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of a sudden it's tuned completely changes yeah so that's kind of like the scary

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part of it because you could basically hack the ai into doing whatever you wanted

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to with get around the safety parameters that are in place,

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scary i mean i don't know is it scary i think it's more intriguing than it is anything else Yeah.

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But again, maybe we just don't know enough about it to be scared of it yet.

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Yeah, and I mean, it could be one of those things where, you know,

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the more and more it evolves and advances that it could become more and more scary.

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I mean, I feel like the people that originally started this whole,

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you know, development of this that are now like hands-off and don't want anything

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to do with it had to have seen something. Yeah, like at the high end. And the thing that we're not on just the free chat bot crap.

27:53

Right. The more advanced version that's cooking in the background somewhere.

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Yeah. Like how you're just going to be able to download all your memories into

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a database and then put them in a robot that walks around and acts and talks like you.

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You live forever. Yeah. But not really you. But not really you. But you.

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That's kind of. I don't know how I feel about that.

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I think these are all things that are like. super

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far away fiction or not yeah or never really gonna happen i don't know though

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i feel like there might be a possibility for something like that i mean they're

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already making like super good i don't know robots like you've seen the ones

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that can like go up and down stairs and.

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Those are creepy. Yeah. It's really creepy. And I have a hard time with this.

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I know it's kind of not really AI related, but have you ever seen the videos

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when they have like, they're showing people like hitting those robots?

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Like they just come up to them and they push them and they kick them and they

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hit them because they're trying to make sure that like they can get back up again.

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But it's kind of disturbing to see it get hit. I feel bad for the thing. I know.

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And that's weird, right? One of these days it's going to get back up and murder

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that person. But it's not alive. And then there was like that robot installation that I don't know if it was

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in New York City or I think it might have traveled around, but it was like letting the oil from it go.

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And it kept like sweeping it back in and then it was pushing it back and sweeping it back in.

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It was like a metaphor for life, you know, but then like as there was less and

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less of the oil that it needed to live, like it was getting slower and like

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the movements were getting worse and worse. And it's like it invokes some emotion when you see that.

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So I don't know. Maybe like. Feel bad for the robots, but they're going to kill

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us all. Yeah. Maybe that's what they're trying to do. Yeah.

29:40

Well, I did ask ChatGPT if it would be a guest on our show. What did it say?

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It said that it is merely an AI construct. However, I asked it some questions anyway and it answered.

29:51

All right. So I wanted to know, like, why are people afraid of you, ChatGPT?

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Like, why are you going to take over the world? and it gave me several reasons

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as to why people should be afraid and why they shouldn't be afraid okay so reason

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number one an ai takeover the theory is that some believe ai will surpass human

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intelligence and take control leading to catastrophic consequences for humanity,

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the reality of that is that ai development is guided by human programming is

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not inherently autonomous or malevolent but what if whoever's designing this

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is malevolent right what if. What if there's holes? What if some, what if it gets hacked?

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Yeah. I think that's the scary part, right? Yeah.

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That we think we can control it, but we always think we can control things.

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And then you end up with the robot from RoboCop. Yeah.

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Secret AI governance. The theory is that there are secretive and powerful group

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of an organization controlling AI development and using it for hidden agendas.

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That I could 100% believe. Yeah.

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And this response from ChatGPT as to why it's not real is bullshit.

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It says, AI development is diverse, involving contributions from various researchers,

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companies, and institutions worldwide. Governance is typically decentralized.

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That's like the most can't not answer. Yeah. I don't think I believe that.

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Yeah. AI enhanced manipulation.

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This is the one I think, like we were saying, like people can,

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things are faked and they believe it. So the theory is that AI is being used

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to manipulate public opinion, elections, and social behavior on a massive scale.

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Reality. While AI algorithms can be used in social media and advertising,

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their impact is influenced by many factors, and responsible use is a major concern.

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People are stupid. Yep. I was just going to say, don't leave it into the hands of most Americans. Yep.

31:45

Fake news. Yeah. Robot uprisings. Oh, gosh. Autonomous robots.

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Or AI-driven machines will rebel against humans, leading to a dystopian future.

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Reality. Current AI technologies lack self-awareness and intentionality.

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Proper safeguards and ethical guidelines are in place to prevent harmful scenarios.

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Again, what happens when a crazy person gets control of something?

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Yeah, or a government. Yep. AI and job loss. The widespread adaption of AI will result in massive unemployment

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as machines will replace human workers. Reality. While AI can automate certain tasks, it also creates new opportunities and jobs.

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The impact on employment is a complex and debated issue.

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I don't know. I mean, we're seeing it a little bit already now.

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You know, if you go to a website and they always have the chats that pop up

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on the bottom, it's like, I'm here to help you. Those aren't people.

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Those are just chat box, you know, ridiculousness that's going to give you canned

32:45

responses depending on what you're looking to do.

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And let me tell you, that started like within the last six months to a year

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because at my work, we have to contact like the manufacturer of our computers and stuff.

32:57

But they break in their shoulder warranty to get things replaced and in the

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past it was always like such an ordeal because we'd have to go on and chat with

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somebody from india that didn't speak english no but still like they would put

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you to the ringer they would be reading from a script.

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No matter what you told them and it would take forever now

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it's ai at first before you

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get to that person and if you know what you're doing you could

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just get the ai to bypass that person and just get

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what you want yeah which is great you can see

33:27

it even like amazon uses it so if you ever have an

33:30

issue with like amazon and you you know need to

33:33

return something or you have a question you can use it and

33:35

it'll always ask you like is this the information you're looking for

33:38

and if it's not you just be like no i'm looking for this and you

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can see like it'll give you the next suggestion you gotta keep hitting no

33:44

no no before you finally get to actually talk to a

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real person yeah so i feel like that's

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going to be something that keeps happening in customer

33:52

service over and over again yeah there's no cost to that

33:55

i mean it's minimal compared to having to employ people

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plus there's no emotion in it there's tons of jobs like

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that yeah and think about like how annoying it is to

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have to deal with people especially for customer service reps yeah.

34:06

Like that sounds like a dream that you could

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just have the person be screaming at the yeah to

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chat i've worked jobs like that in the past

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and it's but there are some people where that's

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all they can do you know that's that's the best

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that they got yeah and that's what they're some of them are very good at

34:23

it and it's like well you're replaced by a robot yep they got machines now that

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flip burgers at mcdonald's have you seen that no yeah they got like a machine

34:32

that just flips the burger by itself it just it's on a timer i guess and it

34:35

just flips them well i mean if you've been to a mcdonald's in the last couple

34:40

of years like they're getting less and less.

34:43

Peopley yeah you got the touch screen screen thing you don't have to talk to

34:46

anybody to order now I mean, it's like, you can definitely see some of those

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things changing. Yep. That is true.

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And like the CEO of Wendy's just got called out because he was talking about

34:58

using algorithms to change the prices on his menu, depending on what was being ordered and when. Yeah.

35:04

That's a little crazy. Get your Wendy's at off peak times.

35:08

I know, right? Yep. But at the same time, like other companies have done it,

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not in the food industry, but like Uber does that. Yeah. During peak times, they call it surge pricing. Yep.

35:17

That's what they were going for. It's happening, people. Last theory of AI conspiracies

35:23

is AI in medicine and genetic engineering. Theory. AI is secretly being used to manipulate human genetics or control medical

35:30

treatments for hidden purposes. Reality. AI is employed in healthcare for various beneficial purposes,

35:35

such as diagnostics and drug discovery, under ethical guidelines.

35:40

Yeah, I mean, I could see it would be helpful in those circumstances. Mm-hmm.

35:44

I don't think I'd be afraid if my doctor was putting my symptoms into an AI

35:49

generator to see if it matched what he was thinking or she was thinking I might be diagnosed with.

35:56

Yeah. I mean, some of these. It's probably smarter than some of their colleagues.

35:59

Yeah. Some of these conspiracy theories, they're kind of all over the place.

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Like, some of them are so bad, it's like, oh, it might be doing,

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you might need to get a new job. And other ones are like, the robots are going to kill us all.

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I don't know if I will hear any more of those. So. It's making people paranoid. That's fun.

36:18

I don't know. AI. I guess you'll see it soon on the Prayer Babbles website.

36:24

Yep. Well, we don't have a website, but like on our Facebook.

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Yeah. You might see the logo and stuff.

36:31

Definitely. We're going to figure that out. AI generated logo and probably some

36:36

descriptions of our episodes. For sure. or maybe even some future guests AI spots. That'd be great.

36:43

Some parable podcast at gmail.com.

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