Jon Rothstein Breaking Down The NCAA Tournament, We Have Our Brackets In Our Hands Ready For The Best Week + Who's Back Of The Week

Jon Rothstein Breaking Down The NCAA Tournament, We Have Our Brackets In Our Hands Ready For The Best Week + Who's Back Of The Week

Released Monday, 17th March 2025
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Jon Rothstein Breaking Down The NCAA Tournament, We Have Our Brackets In Our Hands Ready For The Best Week + Who's Back Of The Week

Jon Rothstein Breaking Down The NCAA Tournament, We Have Our Brackets In Our Hands Ready For The Best Week + Who's Back Of The Week

Jon Rothstein Breaking Down The NCAA Tournament, We Have Our Brackets In Our Hands Ready For The Best Week + Who's Back Of The Week

Jon Rothstein Breaking Down The NCAA Tournament, We Have Our Brackets In Our Hands Ready For The Best Week + Who's Back Of The Week

Monday, 17th March 2025
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is yours today is Monday March 17th

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and we have Our brackets right here

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got a little little ink under my

3:13

fingernails big cat you hear this this

3:15

is a real life in-person bracket I

3:17

don't do my shit online I hold

3:19

it in my hands hell yes in

3:21

a paper like a man always this

3:23

is horoscopes for guys this is horoscopes

3:25

for guys this is the best it's

3:27

the best for the best it's the

3:29

best it's gonna sleep with it underneath

3:31

my pillow tonight I'm gonna fuck it

3:34

I wasn't gonna fuck it but now

3:36

I'm gonna fuck my bracket now I

3:38

sporting event of the year just roll

3:40

it up like this is yeah just

3:42

roll it up and crank it yeah

3:44

I think I think that oh Max

3:46

is going through the hole oh you

3:48

make a hole in your bracket you're

3:50

fucking it that way you could I

3:52

was thinking of just going like this

3:54

you could also roll it up and

3:56

then the bracket could fuck you true

3:58

maybe just get a hold Maybe make

4:00

a paper mache doll out of it. Yeah.

4:02

Okay. I'm into that. I'm in for

4:04

that. But you know what I'm saying?

4:07

I think that bracket reveal is the

4:09

best sporting event that does not

4:11

actually contain sports of the year.

4:13

Oh, it's incredible. And it's just

4:15

the, you know, you spend. I think

4:17

I counted it was like 50 hours of

4:20

basketball I've watched in the last five days

4:22

and my eyes hurt and like every morning

4:24

I wake up and I'm like what just

4:26

happened I feel I got hit by a

4:28

truck but then you end it all with

4:30

the bracket and it's all like oh that

4:33

was worth it because we just we just

4:35

did all that and now we have a

4:37

bracket and it feels great and it's it's

4:39

one of my favorite weeks and it's uh

4:41

I know some people don't like the first

4:43

four, but I actually love it because they're

4:45

like at this point right now I wish

4:47

there was a college basketball game

4:49

on right this second, and we only

4:51

have to wait till Tuesday. But let's

4:54

talk about the bracket, let's first

4:56

talk about who got screwed, and that

4:58

would be West Virginia and Indiana, because

5:00

UNC got into the tournament with

5:02

one quad, one win, and Buba

5:05

Cunningham, who is part of the

5:07

selection committee committee, is also the AD

5:09

at UNC. He now he said that

5:11

he recused himself from all

5:14

conversations. What I would say to

5:16

that is That doesn't fucking matter

5:18

at all because you spend an

5:21

entire weekend hanging out with

5:23

this people and then you're

5:25

like hey guys We're gonna talk about

5:27

UNC. I'm gonna go take a piss

5:29

you guys talk about UNC But come

5:31

on we're boys, right? It's me Bubba.

5:34

Yeah, we're boys. And then let's say

5:36

he doesn't say hey. Come on guys.

5:38

Give me a solid Everyone

5:40

in that room has to decide on UNC

5:42

and then have him come back in the

5:44

room and he's gonna be like so How

5:46

we look at it? Yeah, then you tell

5:48

him your decision Bob has to look at

5:50

you be like what the hell? Yeah, God

5:52

damn I'll go and do that to Bubba

5:54

He also just he went on CBS and

5:56

ESPN after and just used I don't know

5:58

who his human shield was next to him,

6:00

but they asked him a question about

6:02

UNC, and he brought another guy who's

6:05

from the committee, and he

6:07

immediately said, well, I wasn't allowed

6:09

to talk about UNC, so I'm

6:11

just gonna have to defer to

6:13

him. Yeah, it just made him

6:15

answer all the hard questions. He's

6:17

gonna answer all the hard questions.

6:19

He's gonna answer all the hard

6:21

questions. He's gonna answer all the

6:23

UNC related topics that you have

6:25

for me. This is classic belli

6:27

check. That's a that I do

6:29

that game with my kids Yeah, your kids

6:32

are small Actually the age

6:34

difference is less between me and my

6:36

kids your kids are don't weigh a

6:38

lot But I was like that's the

6:40

airplane game. I play with my kids.

6:42

I'm not going to make fun of

6:45

coach Belle check for doing that.

6:47

Congrats Bill? She wearing headphones?

6:49

In this yeah, so they're not

6:51

talking or just listen to like

6:54

airplane noises. Okay, either way, back,

6:56

back to back, UNC got in.

6:58

So here's a stat that I

7:00

looked up, because the bracket matrix,

7:02

they track everything, they compile everybody,

7:04

all the amateur bracketologists out there,

7:06

which is such a funny science

7:09

to study. They have 111 bracketologists,

7:12

and they compile all their results.

7:14

Out of those 111, 27 of the 111

7:16

had UNC in the bracket. And 111

7:19

out of 111 bracketologists had West

7:21

Virginia. Yes. And UNC got it.

7:23

They got screwed. I think they

7:25

were one in 12 and quad

7:28

one. Yeah. They beat UCLA. Listen,

7:30

the committee and we can

7:32

ask John Rothstein, the committee,

7:34

it's very clear they stopped

7:36

working on Friday night. Maybe

7:39

that's why Lanardi's been sleeping

7:41

because it makes no sense that UNC

7:43

is in this tournament. makes

7:45

no sense that Michigan got a five.

7:47

It makes no sense that Louisville got

7:49

an eight. Louisville got an eight. It makes no

7:52

sense that they put Wisconsin in Denver

7:54

in four days after in the third

7:56

game total in the tournament. Yeah, they're

7:58

playing it like one. in the afternoon.

8:00

I have a question for a big cat.

8:02

Why does the Big Ten insist on having

8:05

their championship game as late as possible? I

8:07

don't think it's the Big Ten. I think

8:09

it's CBS. Or they ask them to? So

8:11

they have a lead in for the... I think

8:13

it's the TV. The TV networks dictate that.

8:15

Because it's so late that the committee is

8:18

forced to ignore the results of the Big

8:20

Ten championship. But that CBS. the bracket reveal

8:22

and they have rights to the big 10

8:24

yeah so I'm sure the big 10 would

8:27

like to be like hey can we play

8:29

this game on Saturday and CBA is like

8:31

no we need this right before so I

8:33

think I think Louisville finished the season 20

8:35

and 2 yeah they were 14th in the

8:38

AP and they were 23rd in the net

8:40

and they got an 8c yeah they got

8:42

a little me this also Gonzaga is

8:44

an 8c and they are a top

8:47

10 Ken Palm team yeah Houston would

8:49

potentially have to match up against them

8:51

in the second round, which would be

8:53

a very tough matchup, especially for, I

8:56

think Houston, was Houston technically the second

8:58

one seed? I have the full seed

9:00

list. Hold on, let me find it,

9:02

because I always love going through the

9:05

seed list. I know Wisconsin was

9:07

the fourth, three in Michigan was the

9:09

first fifth, five seed. So, but it

9:11

didn't. like produce shouldn't have been a

9:13

four Michigan should have been the four

9:15

all right here it is you have

9:17

it is Houston oh Houston is a

9:19

third one seat okay that actually makes

9:21

sense because Duke is an absolute wagon

9:24

we can talk about them in a

9:26

second either way there's some weird things

9:28

that they made like even I believe

9:30

Colorado State is a 12 seed that's

9:32

a three and a half point favorite

9:34

yep over Memphis the five seed so and

9:36

I know it's not off betting lines but it's

9:38

like this committee Outside of the UNC, I think

9:41

did a good job, except for the fact that

9:43

some of the seedings make absolutely no sense. Yeah,

9:45

I think this year, there weren't as many

9:47

teams that are pissed off. Like obviously if you're

9:49

Indiana, if you're West Virginia especially, you have every

9:51

right to be super pissed. But there weren't

9:53

a lot of bid stealers this year. Right. But

9:56

West Virginia did get screwed. They got

9:58

fucked. West Virginia got absolutely screwed. Okay,

10:00

well yeah, so yeah, I mean, Houston

10:02

might have to play without Juan Roberts

10:04

against the top 10 Ken Palm team.

10:06

I don't understand that. Gonzaga feels like

10:08

it should have been a higher than

10:11

an eight seed. And Grand Canyon women's

10:13

team got left off, total snub. Why

10:15

did you, well, no, they made the

10:17

tournament. Of this one. Oh, this one.

10:19

Yeah. Why did you bring them up?

10:22

I just thought that was a snub.

10:24

You said something in the cave too,

10:26

you're like I love their women's program.

10:28

Why? Yeah, they got a great program.

10:30

Why? Because their head coach is very

10:32

hot. No, no, no. So put it

10:35

on the bonklist. Put it on the

10:37

bonklist. She's a fantastic coach. Yeah. That's,

10:39

that's, that's why. What's her name? Her

10:41

name, yeah, Coach, I have respect right

10:43

part, Coach. Coach. Okay, how do we

10:45

want to, how do we want to

10:48

break down the bracket? Where do we

10:50

want to start? I just want to

10:52

go region by region. Let's go region

10:54

by region. And I think that there

10:56

should be a uniform, I'd say like

10:58

90% of the brackets are in the

11:01

same format, but then you get some

11:03

websites to try to get cute with

11:05

it and they mix things around. Yeah.

11:07

So just go by region. I agree.

11:09

All right, so South region, top left.

11:11

Yep, top left. Auburn, the one overall

11:14

seed, another thing that made no sense,

11:16

not only the Louisville being an eight

11:18

seed, but if Louisville wins their first

11:20

game, which I actually kind of like

11:22

them to win that game because I

11:24

think Chuck Eheburn's going to put Stephen

11:27

Ashworth in a torture chamber, they're going

11:29

to be playing in Kentucky. This game

11:31

is in Lexington. Auburn's gonna have to

11:33

play a road game in the second

11:35

round as the number one overall seed.

11:37

Yeah, it's one of those things where

11:40

Louisville got fucked over by having a

11:42

bad seed. So they have to play

11:44

Creighton in the first round, which sucks

11:46

for them. But also they get what

11:48

would be two home games. Speaking of

11:50

which Creighton and Yukon, a little doot-to-do

11:53

on Saturday night. That was... That felt

11:55

like a situation that Yukon fans didn't

11:57

fully realize that when you're on the

11:59

top of the block for as long

12:01

as they've been people hate you and

12:03

they just gotta eat, you just gotta

12:06

eat it. And I'm okay with them,

12:08

like throwing home a slam dunk at

12:10

the end of it, hanging on the

12:12

room, celebrating a little bit. Yeah. I

12:14

don't think it's that fucked up. Well,

12:17

and they'll say, and Danny Hurley, who

12:19

we love, and we'll defend Danny Hurley,

12:21

but Danny Hurley, but Danny Hurley, does,

12:23

part of what makes Danny Hurley great,

12:25

is, If you're wired like that, where

12:27

you're yelling at fans as you beat

12:30

Creighton a month ago, when the other

12:32

team has a chance to rub it

12:34

in your face, they're gonna do it.

12:36

Yeah. Like that's just how it works.

12:38

So if you're a Yukon fan, I

12:40

know you can get in arguments with

12:43

Creighton, but you should just say, guess

12:45

what? Yeah, we kind of deserve, we've

12:47

been on the top for so long,

12:49

and we've been killing everyone. Yeah, it's

12:51

gonna it's it's gonna turn every now

12:53

and then. I'm okay with it. Fair

12:56

fair play you win the big east

12:58

you celebrate with a dunk at the

13:00

end That's fine. They were trying to

13:02

make the point that some fans were

13:04

trying to make the point that you

13:06

can never like you know when When

13:09

when Danny Hurley son would get in

13:11

Andrew early would get in games He

13:13

would dribble it out and he would

13:15

yell them not to shoot. Yeah, those

13:17

were also like 20 point games And

13:19

I don't think you can does like

13:22

run it up in that in that

13:24

in that scenario If you're the best

13:26

team for two years running and you

13:28

just demolish everyone and you have a

13:30

coach like Danny Hurley, the minute it

13:32

turns, people are going to take their

13:35

shots. I'm okay with it. Max is

13:37

a big East guy, you think that's

13:39

fair play? Yeah, I think that was

13:41

obvious, an obvious retaliation to Danny Hurley

13:43

doing the rings to the Creighton student

13:45

section on his way out of winning.

13:48

Right, and people like, well that's not

13:50

the players, but it is, it's an

13:52

extension of the players. I wouldn't take

13:54

back Danny Hurley doing that to Creighton

13:56

fans because that's what makes Danny Hurley

13:58

wired that way to win two national

14:01

titles. So it's like fair play all

14:03

around in my in my men. You

14:05

just have to if you're. You're a

14:07

Yukon fan, you just have to accept

14:09

it and be like, yeah, we lost

14:11

this one. Tough shit. We got dunked

14:14

on. If you're the type of fan

14:16

that gets online and says stay classy

14:18

after getting beat by somebody. You've lost.

14:20

You lost, you lost that argument already.

14:22

You've lost. And there's probably a bunch

14:25

of people that did the stay classy

14:27

to Danny Hurley from Creighton that are

14:29

now getting stay classied by Yukon. And

14:31

you're all losers. Big time. All right,

14:33

so that was Creighton also has never

14:35

won a big east title I feel

14:38

like they've been to every single every

14:40

year They go to the final and

14:42

they lose I like Louisville in that

14:44

game. I do too. I got them

14:46

moving forward then we have the the

14:48

probably probably going to be the number

14:51

one 12 5 upset that everyone's gonna

14:53

pick U.S.C. San Diego, who's been awesome,

14:55

who could have been an at-large team

14:57

if they failed to win the Big

14:59

West, which they did on Saturday night,

15:01

playing against Michigan. I think they're only

15:04

three and a half point underdogs. The

15:06

Tritons are fun though. They're a top

15:08

60 team in offense and defense on

15:10

Ken Palm. They're really, really good. They

15:12

got a New Zealander who love, he

15:14

would love PFT. Tate Jones. He's he's

15:17

he's sick. That's his last name. It's

15:19

a hyphenated last night Jones. I don't

15:21

know how to say his first name.

15:23

It's a it's a lot. Anawana weena.

15:25

Anawena tight Jones. Yeah, Anawana weena tight

15:27

Jones, but I watch that whole game

15:30

on Saturday night. He's good. So that's

15:32

that whole game on Saturday night. He's

15:34

good. So that's that's the pick that

15:36

everyone's gonna make. He was like our

15:38

team needs a reset. They got their

15:40

reset. and they won the big 10

15:43

tournament and they looked really good doing

15:45

it so maybe they've turned the corner

15:47

and gotten that reset they needed and

15:49

also they have two seven footers which

15:51

always scares me when you go up

15:53

two seven footers against a smaller team

15:56

if you look at San Diego starting

15:58

lineup it's all six four six five

16:00

i think they got one guy who's

16:02

six eight and they don't really their

16:04

their pace isn't big so if they

16:06

can if they can force turnovers but

16:09

Michigan the way they were playing against

16:11

Wisconsin that's granted also like at the

16:13

end of the Big Ten tournament run

16:15

where every team's tired the shots aren't

16:17

going in it was like every shot

16:19

it was a horrendous game to watch

16:22

well yeah but it smoked out the

16:24

haters who think that's what Wisconsin how

16:26

Wisconsin how it was not a but

16:28

it smoked out the haters who think

16:30

that's what Wisconsin how Wisconsin plays now

16:33

yeah it was not a fun game

16:35

but it was not a fun game

16:37

but this goes back to Michigan state

16:39

and and played way way way better

16:41

coming out of it I also kind

16:43

of like Yale is over text A&M.

16:46

Yale's a good team. I feel like

16:48

Yale also just, that's just a Yale

16:50

does it every year kind of guy.

16:52

Remember the big sweater guy? Yeah, yeah,

16:54

it was pretty funny. Buzz is gonna

16:56

be dressed up like a guy from

16:59

Yale. He wears like nine-piece suits. Yeah.

17:01

He's gonna be sweating his balls off,

17:03

it's gonna be great. I feel like

17:05

Buzz though, he might dress up like

17:07

a guy from Yale in the 1920s.

17:09

Yeah, like a robber baron. Yeah, that

17:12

contributes a significant amount to the Yale

17:14

and Dow. He sweats too much to

17:16

be a Yale guy. Yeah, Yale guys

17:18

don't sweat. And there's never been a

17:20

guy from a Yale named Buzz. No.

17:22

And then we got Olmas versus San

17:25

Diego State and UNC, which UNC, we've

17:27

already discussed. Now you know what's going

17:29

to happen. You know, get to the

17:31

Sweet 16 every year. Yeah, it's going

17:33

to be done. After everyone complained it's

17:35

going to be them Louisville is going

17:38

to lose and in the first round

17:40

and then you and C is going

17:42

to make it. Yeah Also Iowa State

17:44

great move by TJ Otselberger. He basically

17:46

just held out pretty big injury until

17:48

after the selection committee Because they can

17:51

ding you for that they can absolutely

17:53

ding you for that and after everything

17:55

was decided he was just like oh

17:57

yeah I forgot to mention one of

17:59

our best players is out my bad.

18:01

Thanks for the three seed See you

18:04

guys there. Yeah, we'll take it. We'll

18:06

run. Yeah, we're good. Max and I

18:08

were talking earlier about Villanova. and then

18:10

if them firing Cal Neptune would have

18:12

actually made it more likely for Villanova

18:14

to make the tournament. Oh. Yeah, no,

18:17

that would have been the funniest thing

18:19

ever. If just somehow they messed up

18:21

and we're like, you know what, a

18:23

Kyle Neptuneless Villanova team should. Should be,

18:25

yeah, would be a dangerous team. I

18:28

kind of like that idea. We also

18:30

have New Mexico versus Marquette. That's gonna

18:32

be a fun game. Yeah. That's gonna

18:34

be a lot of points. Cam Jones

18:36

is awesome New Mexico runs Richard Patino

18:38

Richard Patino Shaka Smart and Michigan State

18:41

Bryant at the bottom I I actually

18:43

like this region a lot for Michigan

18:45

State because Auburn has not been playing

18:47

its best ball and Michigan State felt

18:49

like on Saturday when Wisconsin beat him

18:51

like that was the reset they kind

18:54

of needed where they had been running

18:56

so hot and it was a perfect

18:58

time for Izo to be like all

19:00

right guys were not you know a

19:02

perfect team. Let's get ready for the

19:04

tournament. Yeah, a good loss. I have

19:07

them. I have Michigan State winning this

19:09

bracket. Yeah, I do too. Hank any

19:11

thoughts. I like UNC to make a

19:13

run. What's your mentals at right now?

19:15

My mentals are we're stringing it together?

19:17

For why? St. Patrick's Day. Give people

19:20

because I don't want you to I

19:22

don't want the AWL to be like,

19:24

Hank said five words. I actually said

19:26

five words. I don't speak what's supposed

19:28

to do. How is St. Patrick's Day?

19:30

St. Patrick's Day is a lot of

19:33

fun. Chicago. I would say it goes

19:35

harder than Boston for St. Patrick's Day.

19:37

Everywhere is absolute chaos. A lot of

19:39

fun. I'm old. What was your... I

19:41

don't know that I have those days

19:43

and me. Too many more of those

19:46

days in me. If we did an

19:48

old school, like steel clock and clock

19:50

out, what was your clock in clock

19:52

out numbers? It was a full 12

19:54

hour shift. At least maybe overtime. Yeah,

19:56

I feel like maybe some time and

19:59

a half. What time did you guys

20:01

you guys all meet up early? What

20:03

time did you guys? I went out

20:05

late quote-on-quote at like 11. And you

20:07

stayed out till 2? That's 14 hours.

20:09

Yeah, yeah, overtime, time and a half.

20:12

That's 15. I was with Hank at

20:14

11. I went out until like 4.30,

20:16

went home, took a nap, went back

20:18

out. Hank was still out from when

20:20

I started. And then I left and

20:22

then he was like... Oh what you're

20:25

a pushy you're gonna meet me out

20:27

here and then you're gonna be the

20:29

one to leave early I'm like dude

20:31

I'm going home you guys are you

20:33

guys are too fucked up for me.

20:36

So that's actually that's the most impressive

20:38

thing you can do I think Max

20:40

I think it's way more impressive to

20:42

go home for two hours take a

20:44

nap reset is something I think it's

20:46

way more impressive to go home for

20:49

two hours take a nap reset is

20:51

something I I don't think I've done

20:53

that in 20 years. I really don't.

20:55

That's something that you just don't do

20:57

when you get older. You go home,

20:59

you even think about your house. And

21:02

you're like, well, that's it for me

21:04

for the night. Sleep is death. Sleep

21:06

is death. What Hank is referring to

21:08

as sleep is death is when 2015,

21:10

when Wisconsin beat Kentucky in the final

21:12

four, I basically stayed out from after

21:15

that game until, so the game ended

21:17

Saturday at like 10 p. I think

21:19

I was out till about 4 a.m.

21:21

went to sleep for like three hours,

21:23

got back up, went back out to

21:25

the bar on that Sunday till like

21:28

midnight. So basically was out for I

21:30

don't know 24 out of 30 hours

21:32

and we were with clients and they

21:34

were like we have a tour of

21:36

Lucas Oil Stadium. This is Sunday afternoon

21:38

after I've been drinking for 14 out

21:41

of 18 hours and I just kept

21:43

on repeating I was like sleep is

21:45

death sleep is death sleep is death

21:47

I was like I'm going on the

21:49

only way I can go on this

21:51

tour is if you let me sneak

21:54

alcohol in so they they'd poured me

21:56

drinks into like a Coke can and

21:58

I walked in standing on Lucas stadium

22:00

just drinking like straight vodka just

22:02

trying to stay away because I was

22:04

so fun sleep is death but credits

22:06

you Hank yeah we're here I'm excited for

22:08

this week I mean this this is the

22:11

best like you know it's definitely one of

22:13

those like I'm never drinking again type of

22:15

mornings and this is the best week to

22:17

just take it easy and just go all in

22:19

on college basketball yeah love it love it

22:21

how'd your bets do did you use you

22:24

were so drunk you forgot to fade me yeah

22:26

damn that's tough to do no actually

22:28

did well so you're good this

22:30

was a good week shout out

22:32

oldy yeah if you tailed oldy you

22:35

did well yeah we'll do some red

22:37

hot okay any other thoughts from

22:39

this region i'm excited for

22:41

this region i like michigan

22:43

state though a lot yeah

22:45

i got michigan state over

22:48

Auburn yeah okay west florida is

22:50

the is the one seed in

22:52

the west this is this my

22:54

region of death No, I think it's

22:56

another one. This is the best region

22:58

of coaches. This might be the best

23:01

region of coaches. Yeah, the big storyline

23:03

in this in this region is that

23:05

we get Billself versus Cal for

23:07

a chance to play Rick Patino. If

23:09

Rick Patino can beat Omaha. I

23:11

need, if Rick Patino can beat

23:13

Omaha. I need that to be

23:16

Calverse. Yes, you know, the Calverse

23:18

Patino. That's what America is hoping

23:20

for. Kansas is hoping. They're gonna

23:22

be a pain of the ass

23:24

to watch. But Arkansas is not

23:26

great. No. So I think Kansas is favorite,

23:28

aren't they? It's a 710, but I

23:30

think Kansas is also a slight favorite.

23:32

Someone looking up on draft kings right

23:34

now. This is my region of death

23:36

because I think... Florida Maryland and

23:38

St. John's and Texas Tech those the

23:41

top four seeds in this region all

23:43

in my mind could be final four

23:45

teams and they've got maybe the best

23:47

12 seed. Yeah they have one of

23:49

the best 12 seeds in Colorado State

23:51

who's a favorite in this game and

23:53

Florida's probably playing the best ball out

23:55

of anyone right now they just steamrolled

23:57

the SEC tournament. Oh yeah and also

23:59

Yukon. is in there. Okay, so let's

24:01

talk about that real quick as Florida's

24:03

gonna beat Norfolk State and then UConn

24:05

plays Oklahoma. I think UConn can lose

24:08

to Oklahoma. I kind of don't want

24:10

UConn to lose to Oklahoma because I

24:12

want UConn to play Florida and everyone

24:14

to be like, watch out for UConn and

24:16

Florida's gonna be like, watch out for UConn

24:19

and Florida's gonna beat him by 100. And

24:21

it's no offense to UConn, they've, they're

24:23

back to back title winners, but they're

24:25

going to that. Florida's very

24:27

very good. That would be my take on

24:29

that. So I'm rooting for you con just

24:32

so that I can bet Florida against you.

24:34

Florida's very good. Yeah, Colorado State team has

24:36

started five and five probably the hottest team

24:38

in the country. They are awesome and they're the

24:40

12 seat over Memphis and they are a three

24:42

and a half point favorite which makes perfect sense

24:44

if you follow the numbers. It doesn't make sense

24:47

if you just look at a bracket. And

24:49

Memphis they have that what's the guy that

24:51

they got that scored four he scored 42

24:53

I think in the tournament semi finals. I

24:55

think in the tournament semi finals. Uh, I

24:57

don't know who they have a big injury

24:59

though. Oh, fuck. Who is it? I wrote

25:01

down notes. God damn it. I took notes

25:03

on like three different things. They have they

25:05

have a really, really good player.

25:07

And I can't. I can't remember

25:10

where all my notes are. Oh, Tyrese

25:12

Hunter is the is the Memphis player

25:14

who might be out. He was in a

25:16

walking boot and he will. He's a

25:18

he's a he's a very big part

25:20

of their defense. He had Neke Clifford

25:22

is he's awesome. He's awesome. He's

25:25

awesome. No, we're looking for Memphis.

25:27

I think it was Clifford. I

25:29

think you're saying Colorado State

25:31

scored 42 points. I know

25:33

somebody on Memphis scored. Oh,

25:35

yeah, because I think 42 in the

25:37

semis. All right, find it Max There

25:39

I watched so much fucking basketball.

25:42

My brain is just completely

25:44

PJ Haggerty. You score 42 He's

25:46

a bucket Max is just

25:49

not good at the Google

25:51

thing. 42. There we go.

25:53

Against Wichita State. Yeah, there

25:55

we go. You got it, Max.

26:00

That nap coming in clutch. That nap

26:02

is, you can feel that. Let's go.

26:04

Wow. You did? I'm napped up. What's

26:06

on to take that nap? I don't

26:08

know, around like one. Hell yeah, sick.

26:11

Yeah, Neke Clifford though for Colorado State

26:13

is, he's awesome. And without Tyre's Hunter,

26:15

if he doesn't play, that would be

26:17

a problem. Missouri Drake, I'm very excited

26:20

for, oh, Maryland, Maryland Grand Canyon is

26:22

a bigger game. Maryland kind of got

26:24

screwed, too, I feel like, I feel

26:26

like, they probably could have been a

26:29

three. The crab five. Yeah. The best

26:31

nickname. They have to, where is that

26:33

game? Why doesn't the games, why don't

26:35

the games have the locations on the

26:37

bracket? I don't know where that game

26:40

is, but I got a fun stat

26:42

about Maryland. Okay. Queen, one of the

26:44

members of the Fab Five. Yes. Crab

26:46

Five. Yeah, that's what I said, right?

26:49

First time I said crab. The crab

26:51

five. They have lost in every single

26:53

game that he's made a three pointer.

26:55

Yeah. If he's do not let him

26:58

shoot any threes, that's very important. Yeah,

27:00

so I like Maryland in that little

27:02

quadrant and then Missouri Drake's gonna be

27:04

very fun because Drake is an absolute

27:07

snail of a team. They don't want

27:09

they want to go as slow as

27:11

possible. If there was no shock clock,

27:13

they would hold the ball for the

27:15

like 10 minutes to start the game.

27:18

That's they'd be like the high school

27:20

team just being like we're not going

27:22

to play this game We're going to

27:24

make it a three possession game and

27:27

the zoo can run And then tech

27:29

second is really good too. So this

27:31

is this might be our region of

27:33

death. I'm just ruined for Drake to

27:36

keep playing so we can make jokes

27:38

That's it. Okay. That's like when oral

27:40

Roberts is playing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well

27:42

Drake a lot of and more head

27:44

you loved one as oral Roberts and

27:47

more. Yeah. That was the best that

27:49

was maybe a super bracket bracket. Yeah.

27:51

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bite at Boershead. Hank, how you doing,

28:29

checking in? Good. Uh, checking in on

28:31

the West. Checking in on you physically.

28:34

I actually think you should fill it

28:36

out right now because there's a chance

28:38

you might just be so hung over

28:40

that you turned off your brain and

28:43

you just come up with the best

28:45

picks. I would like Coach Cal to

28:47

make a run. Okay. I think that'd

28:49

be fun. Okay. Good thoughts. And St.

28:51

John's, I have you, I bet St.

28:54

John's Final Final Four. I'll be reading

28:56

for that as well. St. John's good.

28:58

They play Big East basketball. Do a

29:00

pet over there? I do. Memes and

29:03

Max, if you guys have any thoughts

29:05

or picks you love, just chime in

29:07

because I know Memes, you already fell

29:09

out of bracket. Memes has St. John's

29:12

to win at all. St. John's, win

29:14

at all. I filled out my entire

29:16

bracket. It's kind of... It's a weird,

29:18

St. John's, B-Y-Y-U, Kentucky. That's that's that's

29:21

the first go at it. How many

29:23

edits are you going to do? Probably

29:25

two or three. What what led you

29:27

to that? I love B. Y. You

29:29

I just love how they play and

29:32

the region they're in. I think they

29:34

could outrun the teams are going to

29:36

play. Yeah, no straight shots. But that's

29:38

also memes. It had been a while

29:41

since I haven't been in a lot

29:43

of big games in a long time.

29:45

It had been a while since I

29:47

lost a quote-unquote big game, the Big

29:50

Ten Championship today. Memes was just firing

29:52

off the memes. Like it felt like

29:54

he had been waiting for that moment

29:56

for so long because he hasn't had

29:58

a chance. If you're just betting on

30:01

social media memes, I would say that

30:03

you want you want Wisconsin to beat

30:05

BYU and then you want Wisconsin to

30:07

lose to Duke. No, you want or

30:10

the Wisconsin BAMMA. No, I think you

30:12

want Wisconsin to be BAMMA just so

30:14

that Duke can be the one to

30:16

beat you. I think if I'm just

30:19

thinking about memes here. No, he's gonna

30:21

get, listen, he's gonna get him off

30:23

no matter when Wisconsin loses. Like it's

30:25

gonna be, he's ready to go no

30:28

matter what. I made so many more

30:30

today too. Oh, of course, I'm sure

30:32

you did. There's so many good ones.

30:34

I thought we were gonna win too.

30:36

We, we need to have a rule

30:39

for, we need to get back control.

30:41

Remember when we used to have control

30:43

of the Twitter account? Yeah. I haven't

30:45

had the password for the Twitter account

30:48

for the Twitter account forever. We need

30:50

to get control for when memes loses

30:52

for when memes loses. We we should

30:54

do that next year if the Jets

30:57

are ever in a big game. Oh,

30:59

you know what the Knicks so if

31:01

the Knicks when the Knicks are in

31:03

the playoffs I want I want control

31:05

if the Knicks are an elimination game

31:08

Okay, so we can just go off

31:10

on me. So about the Islanders? Nah,

31:12

they suck. They suck I knew that

31:14

they suck Okay, uh, okay East I've

31:17

come to the realization that I think

31:19

Duke's gonna win the whole thing so

31:21

flag His injury is gonna I don't

31:23

think he's gonna play at all in

31:26

the first two games doesn't matter But

31:28

then he's gonna be back will he

31:30

be a hundred percent doesn't matter. I

31:32

don't know. They're still very deep They're

31:35

so good. I they're gonna win it

31:37

all I've just come to accept that

31:39

I it would They're just so well

31:41

rounded so deep. I think Cooper flag

31:43

will be fine. I think he probably

31:46

even if he doesn't play in the

31:48

first weekend They'll be fine and then

31:50

it'll be fully healthy. They're so good

31:52

I can't, I'm just, I have to

31:55

brace myself. Where are they playing? Probably

31:57

somewhere, probably at Durham. Raleigh. There you

31:59

go. Pretty easy. Pretty easy trip for

32:01

him. I have the, oh, by the

32:04

way, shout out our guy Jonathan Warner.

32:06

I think we mentioned him last year.

32:08

A lot of people have brackets. He's

32:10

the only guy I know that in

32:12

the 45 minutes from when the bracket

32:15

is released to when the tip times

32:17

come out, he tries to predict every

32:19

tip time. How do you do this

32:21

year? I don't know, so many games.

32:24

I'm trying to see if he nailed

32:26

any of them. And you're playing on

32:28

Thursday, right? Yeah. Whiskey? Yeah. Okay so

32:30

Duke we have we have revenge games

32:33

in Duke's region because we have Jeremy

32:35

Roach on Baylor could play Duke he

32:37

played for Duke and then we also

32:39

have on Arizona if they get to

32:42

the Sweet 16 against Duke Caleb Love

32:44

which would be fun. See them go

32:46

up against each other one last time.

32:48

I think Oregon is the is the

32:50

scary team in this region for Duke

32:53

if they can get to the Sweet

32:55

16. Yeah I have Oregon beating Arizona

32:57

the second because that will be it.

32:59

I think that's going to be the

33:02

Caleb Love Masterpiece. I think he'll go

33:04

three for 21 for 14 points. I

33:06

like that. I think that's where I

33:08

like that. Essentially the the Josh Rosen

33:11

stat line of basketball. Yes, yes. Okay,

33:13

then in the bottom half, yes. B-Y-U-V-C-U

33:15

memes is B-Y-U. If B-Y-U loses in

33:17

the first round memes, I'd like access

33:19

to the Twitter account. Okay, deal. I'm

33:22

a B-Y-Y-U lever. Oh,

33:24

please don't say that ever again. What?

33:26

How much B.Y.U. basketball have you watched?

33:28

I watch every single game. They play,

33:31

they play late and I just love

33:33

Ben on them. Okay. B.Y.U. and VCU.

33:35

That's actually a stylistic clash because VCU

33:38

can muck it up and just play

33:40

gritty defense right in their face. And

33:42

then Wisconsin, Montana. Wisconsin got screwed in

33:45

terms of the time, but you gotta

33:47

go play the games. And altitude. It

33:49

is crazy Montes used to the altitude.

33:51

Yeah, it is crazy the third game

33:54

on Thursday after playing four games in

33:56

Rome. out in Denver. I don't know

33:58

why they didn't give, I also don't

34:01

know why they wouldn't want, why wouldn't

34:03

you want to sell more tickets? Why

34:05

wouldn't you want Wisconsin to be in

34:07

Milwaukee? Like they were, there's two other

34:10

three seats in Milwaukee. So who is

34:12

playing in Milwaukee? Kentucky and and Iowa

34:14

State. I don't know, I think like

34:17

protecting a three seed is like halfway

34:19

down the list of stuff that's important

34:21

for them. Yeah, I know, it just

34:23

kind of made no sense. I actually

34:26

think they Probably should have lost on

34:28

Saturday. It almost hurt them. Yeah, and

34:30

then Alabama St. Mary's Vanderbilt and Robert

34:33

Morris the bottom half We need Alabama

34:35

loose. I got I think baby could

34:37

be Duke. I think they could I

34:39

think they could I think they possibly

34:42

could too. Phylon is my favorite player

34:44

to watch and call it they get

34:46

hot Hank was also you didn't you

34:49

I also didn't watch the game on

34:51

Saturday, but you also did not watch

34:53

the game. It was on at the

34:55

bar Then they get absolutely

34:58

smoked. Oh, yeah, they got balled. Oh,

35:00

oh the baby game. No, I didn't

35:02

watch the baby game Yeah, they got

35:04

bullied They also is not as good

35:06

of a three-point shooting team as they

35:09

were last year when they went to

35:11

the final four which they were a

35:13

very good team last year I Think

35:15

and Grant Nelson got hurt who knows

35:17

what's gonna happen with him. That's a

35:19

very big injury. That is to not

35:22

that happened on Saturday night He might

35:24

be okay Basco couldn't get an answer.

35:26

But they did crush Vandy when they

35:28

played earlier. Yeah. And then St. Mary's.

35:30

I don't know anything about St. Mary's.

35:33

Where do they have an Australian guy

35:35

this year? They always do. Randy Bennett's

35:37

been to about a billion tournaments. He

35:39

also, the last two years, they've not

35:41

played great, but I think one of

35:43

them was against Yukon, so it's like

35:46

that doesn't really count. Because Yukon was

35:48

really, really good. They'll slow it down.

35:50

So it would be a very fun

35:52

match up to see Alabama trying to

35:54

speed it up for St. Mary's slowing

35:57

it down. Where are they on Ken

35:59

Palm? They had a very

36:01

St. Mary's year. They beat Gonzaga twice

36:03

in in league play and then lost

36:05

to him in the championship game. And

36:07

they're a very well-rounded team that plays

36:09

very slow. Three hundred and fifty-nine in

36:11

Tempo. Yep. That's what they want to

36:13

do. And Bama is one. That's why

36:15

I want to see it. Like I

36:17

said, Houston kind of got screwed because

36:19

Houston Gonzagas is the nine team in

36:21

Ken Palm and Houston is a one

36:24

seed so that's who they maybe have

36:26

to match up with in the second

36:28

round and they have a big injury

36:30

which Juan Roberts so that could be

36:32

that could be a wrinkle in this

36:34

whole bracket. That happens to Houston every

36:36

year. Yeah, every year. They've got the

36:38

worst luck. This is one of my

36:40

favorite regions and just that there's a

36:42

game that I really want to happen.

36:44

in Illinois and Kentucky in Tennessee in

36:46

the second round that would be so

36:48

much fun because it's like the two

36:50

quintessential boomer bus teams where if they're

36:52

on they play the best basketball in

36:55

the world and when they're off they

36:57

are just absolute dog shit so I

36:59

would love to see them match up

37:01

and hope both are on because we'd

37:03

get one of the best tournament games

37:05

possible. I like the I like the

37:07

bottom half of this bracket a lot.

37:09

I like Illinois Kentucky UCLA and Tennessee

37:11

I think those will make for at

37:13

the very least. Very entertaining second round

37:15

matchups. Yeah, they all win tough region

37:17

Clems and also I feel like they

37:19

got a little bit screwed with their

37:21

seating But Clems in Purdue high points

37:23

gonna be a great game. There's so

37:26

many fucking good games. I got damn

37:28

it I love this tournament heard a

37:30

rumor that high points not pumped about

37:32

playing Purdue. Oh really? Yeah, it's a

37:34

rumor. It's a rumor at sources. No,

37:36

I don't want to throw anybody another

37:38

bus. No, but it's someone who's in

37:40

my inner circle who's in my inner

37:42

circle who's in my inner circle and

37:44

You know, we have a good relationship.

37:46

Yeah. And so I don't want to

37:48

go behind their back. I don't want

37:50

to annoy the guy. Yeah. Hank, what

37:52

are your thoughts on the Midwest? I

37:54

got Houston coming out of the Midwest.

37:57

Yeah. I like Houston, Tennessee and the

37:59

elite eight. And I think... High Point's

38:01

gonna make a run despite not loving

38:03

their first round match up against Purdue.

38:05

That's bad to not love that. Yeah, I

38:07

know that's what I said too. The one

38:09

thing I will say about this bracket is

38:11

crazy that they hypothetically were even thinking

38:14

about Purdue this this early on. High point,

38:16

what do you mean? Like they said before the

38:18

tournament. Actually never mind. Well, oh, they

38:20

said before the tournament they didn't want

38:23

to play. But they were just saying

38:25

like if there's a bunch of teams

38:27

that they could play in that they could

38:29

play. slot that they were putting themselves in

38:31

and Purdue was one of the teams that

38:34

they said do do not like that match

38:36

up who's your guy's source I don't want

38:38

to talk about it Max just rumors

38:40

he knows someone at high point he knows

38:42

a coach no no got it I didn't

38:44

say it was a train I said it

38:47

was a he yeah good point hang pfte

38:49

has multiple insiders sources that are women

38:51

that's right could be anyone produced

38:53

defense not good I think this is

38:56

the I think the Midwest region so

38:58

the West is my region of death

39:00

because I think there's four teams

39:02

that are all very like qualified

39:04

to be in the final four

39:07

Midwest is my chaos region I this

39:09

could go any which way because

39:11

I could which Juan Roberts out

39:13

for Houston potentially out for Houston

39:16

there's not one in like

39:18

Tennessee Rick Barnes Rick Barnes and

39:20

then you have two teams in

39:22

Kentucky and Illinois who at their

39:24

ceiling Could be final four teams,

39:26

but they've also shown their floor

39:29

and it's very ugly I the

39:31

coach Cal he could lose that

39:33

first round match up again. That

39:35

would be game that Cal would be

39:37

game that Cal would lose. Cal would

39:40

lose. That would be game that Cal

39:42

would lose Detroit. I think Pope would

39:44

not lose Detroit. I think Pope would

39:47

not lose Detroit. And also this

39:49

this region has some fun wrinkle

39:51

that uh, Mick Cronin who was

39:53

very vocal about Eastern Standard time

39:55

and having to play there and you

39:57

say it was bad playing in Eastern

39:59

Standard. time this year this they have

40:02

to go play in eastern standard

40:04

time that's tough so they kind

40:06

of stuck it to them there

40:08

uh yeah this is my region

40:10

of i don't know what the

40:12

fuck's gonna happen so i think

40:14

here's my take i think whoever

40:16

wins the east win at all

40:18

it's gonna be Duke Duke's gonna

40:20

win at all could be Wisconsin

40:23

could be Bama Florida is the

40:25

only chance why don't why don't

40:27

Wisconsin revenge in the elite aid

40:29

for a chance of the final

40:31

four listen I just want to

40:33

get to the sweet 16 that's

40:35

the Everything after that is like,

40:37

let's just let's see what happens.

40:39

God will take me revenge. Yeah,

40:42

if Wisconsin can shoot like yours

40:44

You're just a means you're me

40:46

started the championship DVD You're just

40:48

another memes you want to set

40:50

me up for I do I

40:52

am very happy that Wisconsin played

40:54

a game like today where it

40:56

just it really smoked out all

40:58

the haters because there's a lot

41:00

of people who watched their first

41:03

college basketball game today and they're

41:05

like wow Wisconsin stinks They hit

41:07

18-3s on Friday. They play great

41:09

offense bad day. They were tired

41:11

legs. They were taking the same

41:13

shots. I actually think that they

41:15

were taking better shots. Yeah, they

41:17

were in the championship game than

41:19

they were on Friday. It's just

41:22

that every shot they were taking

41:24

on Friday was going in every

41:26

single one. And they just were

41:28

ran out of gas. But that

41:30

was, it was fun to, I

41:32

got a lot of bookmarks and

41:34

hopefully I can revisit. I'm sure

41:36

he's got some. some good Intel

41:38

we didn't even think about. Oh,

41:40

I had one thing that I

41:43

wanted to say about this. This

41:45

is the year that don't be

41:47

afraid to just do chalk. I

41:49

know that it sounds like you

41:51

never want to be that guy.

41:53

Don't get as cute as you

41:55

think you want to get because

41:57

I saw this stat from Maxbar

41:59

CBB on Twitter. Only four teams

42:02

since 2000 have entered the tournament

42:04

plus 35 net rating. that's a

42:06

just a deficiency rating on Ken

42:08

Palm or better. So only four

42:10

teams since 2000 entered the tournament

42:12

plus 35 net rating. That was

42:14

the 2021 Gonzaga Bulldogs. They were

42:16

they finished second. They were the

42:18

runner up in that year. 2019

42:20

Virginia. They were the champion. 2015

42:23

Kentucky. Final four loss of Wisconsin.

42:25

2001 Duke. They won it all.

42:27

So only four teams since 2000

42:29

at 35 net rating or higher.

42:31

This year. Four teams have 35

42:33

net rating or higher. So that's

42:35

insane. Yeah, like that it that

42:37

just shows you that the one

42:39

seeds this year are playing at

42:42

such a high level And are

42:44

so dominant that it's Literally net

42:46

the total amount of teams that

42:48

it was good this year. It's

42:50

been whatever 25 years. It took

42:52

four for four other teams to

42:54

do it. So Duke Florida Houston

42:56

Auburn are historically great teams And

42:58

so don't be afraid to just

43:01

go chalk. That would be my

43:03

speech. You're gonna wanna get cute.

43:05

Well, don't get cute. Maybe get

43:07

cute early on. Get cute early

43:09

on. And I would say if

43:11

you're gonna try to say, hey,

43:13

where can we not do the

43:15

one seed? It would be if

43:17

Juan Roberts doesn't play in Houston

43:19

might be that one. And maybe

43:22

Michigan State. Possum, Michigan State over

43:24

Robert, does have bad vibes. The

43:26

way they finish out. No Why

43:28

not he just what he has

43:30

a ban a few he has

43:32

a ban a few but every

43:34

time every time they play it's

43:36

a good game. Max on the

43:38

bus Not even I mean I

43:41

just want good content. He wants

43:43

you with the at the pumps

43:45

party and you on the bus.

43:47

What's Max on the bus? For

43:49

a pickham we made a bet

43:51

Rico Bosco huge Bama fan a

43:53

good college ball expert close friends

43:55

of NATOates if Alabama doesn't make

43:57

the final four. Rico Bosco has

43:59

to take a to San Antonio

44:02

from New York City. If Alabama

44:04

does make the final four, Max

44:06

and Jack McCarthy have taken a

44:08

bus from Chicago to San Antonio,

44:10

and I have to go to

44:12

the pump party on Thursday night.

44:14

Am I, this is a pickum

44:16

bet? Yeah. Am I a part

44:18

of the pickum show? Yeah. Yeah.

44:21

By proxy? Yeah. All right, just

44:23

wanted to. put a little bit

44:25

of context out there that this

44:27

is an insane bet that I'm

44:29

a part of. Max just got

44:31

thrown into it. I know you're

44:33

a chief scout. Do it? You're

44:35

a chief scout. It's Max. Yeah.

44:37

Yeah, but yeah, that's basically what

44:39

happened. Yeah, blame your buddy. It

44:42

was you. No, it was Jack

44:44

McCarthy. It was Jack v. Rico

44:46

and then and then you were

44:48

like, oh yeah, we'll have Max

44:50

Go with Jack too. Well, Bama

44:52

is going to lose. What's done

44:54

is done. Bama has to lose.

44:56

You have to, as Hank said,

44:58

we're just rooting for content, so

45:01

you'll be very invested in those

45:03

games. Other good content, though, would

45:05

be, Wisco beating Bidding Bama and

45:07

then beating Duke. Oh, I appreciate

45:09

that, because I assumed you wanted

45:11

them to lose one of those

45:13

games so that you can get

45:15

your memes off. Well, then he's

45:17

just assuming you would lose in

45:19

the final four. Oh. Yeah, but

45:22

that would be losing at some

45:24

point. Those would be two electric,

45:26

electric games. Those would be electric

45:28

games. Been cat first Hank. Be

45:30

fun. Duke Wisconsin. People forget I

45:32

respectfully didn't even wear Duke. You

45:34

did. You're very nice about that.

45:36

The national championship. You have a

45:38

very nice thing. Wow. There's, I

45:41

just love looking at this bracket.

45:43

Also, the IT bracket just came

45:45

out. Max. Oh. You're not in

45:47

it. Sorry. Are you aware of

45:49

the crown? Oh, are you not

45:51

aware of the college basketball crown?

45:53

Yeah. The fake tournament that just

45:55

builds up at the last second?

45:57

The crown is pretty... The crown.

45:59

Pretty prestigious. I don't think you

46:02

know about the crown. I know

46:04

about the crown. The crown where

46:06

they say that they're going to

46:08

make NIL payments, but they don't

46:10

actually make NIL payments unless you

46:12

finish in the finals. That crown?

46:14

The crown is going to be

46:16

pretty sick. It's in Vegas. It's

46:18

pretty awesome. Is Villanova in the

46:21

Crown? Uh, we should be. Stand

46:23

by. Who's coaching him? Great point.

46:25

I wanted to do a player

46:27

coach. Eric Dixon. Coach. What is

46:29

he going to do? Miss Moore

46:31

shots? Yep. And then we're just

46:33

on. I'm fine with losing immediately

46:35

and just figuring out who our

46:37

next coach is. If I was

46:39

losing the crown. Then let's not

46:42

be that important of tournament. It's

46:44

not that important. But it's cool

46:46

to say the crown. Uh, yeah,

46:48

it was a good weekend of

46:50

hoops. Fuckin' Wall the Wall. I

46:52

had fun until I didn't. Anything

46:54

else? N-I-T-S-A-T-S-O-N-I-T-S-O-N-I-T-S-O-N-I-T-S-O-N-I-T-S-O-N-I-T-S-O-I-S-I-S-I-I-I-I-the-I-I-the-I-the-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I Dayton, suburban in that,

46:56

Dayton, the NIT is taking a

46:58

hit this year, David against FAU,

47:01

Middle Tennessee against Chattanooga, Bradley against

47:03

North Alabama, George Mason against Sanford,

47:05

I love George Mason's big band,

47:07

he was fun to watch, San

47:09

Francisco against Utah Valley, San Jose

47:11

State, against Loyola, Chicago, Sister Jean,

47:13

St. John's, St. Bonnie's against Kent

47:15

State, and then Stanford, against Cson.

47:17

Cal State, Cal State Northridge Northridge.

47:19

So no Indiana do they just

47:22

deny the bed? They might be

47:24

in the crown. No, they're in

47:26

the crown all in the crown

47:28

I've teeth You got to understand

47:30

how important way round is you

47:32

don't get the crown. I left

47:34

off one leg of the bracket

47:36

then we have UC Irvine Northern

47:38

Colorado Georgia Tech against Jacksonville State

47:41

St. Joseph's against UAB Santa Clara

47:43

against U. Clear against U. U.

47:45

C. Riverside the EIT it's going

47:47

to be about the crown So

47:49

wait who's the biggest power five

47:51

team in the in the MIT

47:53

this year? I respect Georgia Tech

47:55

Respect looks like the ACC is

47:57

the only is the only crown

47:59

Georgia Tech Stanford, SMU, SMU, SMU,

48:02

Oklahoma State. Yeah, okay. Damn. And

48:04

then Hank's Furman. You like Furman

48:06

all the way? Furman a lot.

48:08

What are they? The Furman, what's?

48:10

The Furman boilers. The boilers. The

48:12

boilers. The boilers. All right. Like

48:14

boilers, like a chef, someone who

48:16

boils something or boilers like an

48:18

engine? Like an engine. Like an

48:21

engine. Hey, did you fill out

48:23

a bracket? Well, I asked a

48:25

question for a reason, although I

48:27

didn't know about the injury, I

48:29

have, out of the south, Auburn,

48:31

coming out of the west, St.

48:33

John's, after beating Yukon. Oh, in

48:35

the elite eight. Yeah. So you

48:37

have Yukon over Florida. And Maryland,

48:39

yeah. Wow. You gotta beat the

48:42

champs to be the champs. They

48:44

have the championship DNA. Florida beats

48:46

the champs. What if Oklahoma beats

48:48

the champs? I don't think they're

48:50

going to. I think this team

48:52

is coach well. They have championship

48:54

DNA. They know what it takes

48:56

to get it done at this

48:58

time of the year. Rick Patino,

49:01

he has championship DNA. It's true.

49:03

That's why he's going to be

49:05

tested. Uh-huh. And then I have

49:07

Houston beating Tennessee to advance out

49:09

of the Midwest. I love that

49:11

when you talk college basketball, you

49:13

say it the correct Houston way.

49:15

Houston, I'll burn. I like Kentucky

49:17

Tennessee matchup before that. That'll be

49:19

a fun one. High point they

49:22

have the the kid he's gonna

49:24

be the story the Mm-hmm Exciting

49:26

white. Yeah. Oh who mean mugged?

49:28

Yeah. Yeah big time and then

49:30

in this bracket I guess I

49:32

wasn't thinking about storylines, but I

49:34

have Bama beating Wisconsin and then

49:36

Duke on the way to the

49:38

final four so Bama's gonna be

49:41

in the final four and they're

49:43

going to beat a burn And

49:45

Max having to take a bus

49:47

and me having to go to

49:49

the pump party. Yeah, I wasn't

49:51

really thinking about any of that

49:53

when I filled this bracket out.

49:55

This is just how it kind

49:57

of shook out. Yeah. Got it.

50:00

Well that would suck. Right Max.

50:02

I'm still doing research on the crown.

50:05

What do you find? You might

50:07

not even be in the crown. What

50:09

do you got for us? No,

50:11

we're definitely in the crown. I think

50:13

we have an auto bid to

50:15

the crown. Yeah, the crown is in

50:18

conjunction with the TV network, so they

50:20

basically forced teams to go to

50:22

the crown. You can't say no. Yeah,

50:24

I did ask some Villanova people

50:26

because I've been trying to get on

50:29

the... I'm trying to get in to

50:31

know who our next coach is

50:33

going to be. I'm like, can we

50:36

opt out of the next tournament

50:38

to just focus on coaching? And apparently

50:40

you're not allowed to opt out of

50:42

the ground. That sucks. You can

50:44

opt out of the NIT. You can

50:47

opt out of the NIT. You're

50:49

not allowed to opt out of the

50:51

ground. You just got to wait

50:53

for Vandy to lose, then you get

50:55

your next coach. Richard Patino? I

50:58

can give you my list. Okay,

51:00

Richard Patino is on my list.

51:02

Italian League, my list is T.J.

51:04

Otson, Otson, what's his name? Otselberger,

51:06

yeah, Todd Golden, Will Wade, Tommy

51:08

Lloyd, Ben McCollum, Ryan Odom, Chris

51:10

Collins, Mitch Anderson, Richard Patino, Matt

51:12

Langel, Porter Moser. Wait wait. Hold

51:14

on. Go back real quick. Todd

51:16

Golden is the Florida head coach.

51:18

Yep all my list who's One

51:20

seed and has probably an insane

51:22

NIL and coaches in the SEC

51:24

on my list. He's gonna go

51:26

to Villanova. He's on my list

51:28

is Villanova are they Jesuit school

51:30

What I don't know I he's

51:32

on my list. I don't know

51:34

I he's Villanova material He's on

51:36

your list. He's on my list.

51:38

John Shire. Yep He's on your

51:40

list? Sure, he can be on

51:42

my list. I do like Will

51:44

Wade though. Let's get Will Wade

51:46

a proper program to run now.

51:48

Father Peter would love Will Wade

51:50

and Todd Golden. What about Chris?

51:52

Spirit. List. He's on the list.

51:54

List. You're all on the list.

51:56

They're all on the list. They're

51:58

on the list. The one job

52:00

in America. Arguably. Championship DNA. What

52:02

on Jay Wright? Jay Wright owns

52:04

the list. Oh, he runs the

52:06

list. He runs the list. What

52:08

do you think they'd have to

52:10

offer Jay Wright to come back?

52:12

I think they have offered him

52:14

unlimited money. So I think that

52:16

there is not a number. Got

52:18

it. What would you personally do

52:20

to get Jay right as the

52:22

coach? Well, what would you want?

52:25

I just want to know where

52:27

your line is. Yeah, line is

52:29

high. My line, I miss Jay

52:31

right. Would you suck and fuck?

52:33

Yes. Okay. Would you, uh... Would

52:35

you quit? Would I quit this

52:37

show? Yeah. I wouldn't let you.

52:39

I think about it. Well, you

52:41

should say yes, because we just

52:43

say no, you're not allowed. Yes.

52:45

Yeah, yeah, okay. Would you kill

52:47

memes? Easy. That's easy, including the

52:49

show. I would help you with

52:51

that. Yeah. He's a BY you

52:53

lever. Don't say that. Please don't

52:55

say that. BY you leave. He's

52:57

just been, like, cackling to himself

52:59

back here with the Microsoft saying

53:01

BY you leave her over and

53:03

over and over again. So bad.

53:05

Yeah, I was saying it would

53:07

be funny if if there's a

53:09

year where BY makes a tournament

53:11

But they're not very good and

53:13

the committee is just like yeah,

53:15

we're giving you Friday Sunday. You're

53:17

not gonna win. Don't worry. It's

53:19

not a big deal Okay, let's

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It hits. It hits back of

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the week. Like who's got it

54:25

in you. We talk about it

54:27

a lot. I mean, it's obviously

54:29

a week early, but there was

54:31

a lot of college basketball similar

54:33

to the tournament. And having something

54:35

to wean you off on Monday,

54:37

and the golf gods, the weather

54:39

gods, have granted us that. There's

54:41

a three hole aggregate playoff for

54:43

the players championship tomorrow morning, nine

54:45

AM Eastern. So that will be

54:47

a nice thing to wake up

54:49

to. Nice way to get your

54:51

way into the week. Rory. Jay

54:53

Jay Jay, Jay. I just, it's

54:55

a fun storyline of him just,

54:58

you know, kind of getting so

55:00

close and choking. But Rory on

55:02

St. Patrick's Day? I feel like

55:04

that's good vibes for him, right?

55:06

Northern Ireland also celebrates it. They

55:08

do? I looked it up, yeah.

55:10

It's not as big a deal,

55:12

I don't think, it's like they're

55:14

Protestant up there. It's St. Patrick's

55:16

Day, that's a Catholic thing. I

55:18

just feel like, do you not

55:20

like Rory now? You've come around

55:22

on our discussion on the live

55:24

guy. This is where it's like

55:26

I haven't something I've come around.

55:28

You see the live performer? Yeah,

55:30

she was great. She was awesome.

55:32

What if live just decided to

55:34

get into the college basketball playoff

55:36

scene? Probably is going to happen.

55:38

You're going to be with. The

55:40

crown is crown being. Yeah. That's

55:42

kind of what it is, right?

55:44

The crown prince. Yeah. Yeah. And

55:46

then my other who's back at

55:48

the week is, it's hanks on

55:50

the street and this is definitely

55:52

a sign of, I'm really old,

55:54

but have you guys seen borks?

55:56

Nope. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're talking

55:58

about the jugs. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

56:00

yeah. So there it's big and

56:02

mad. I think you see everyone

56:04

drinking pork. I think it's on

56:06

the lake. I think it's borg.

56:08

Isn't it B. R. G. Or

56:10

sorry. Yeah. Blackout rage gallon. Yeah.

56:12

And it's basically just pouring. It's

56:14

jungle juice a ton of vodka

56:16

into a gallon jug some water

56:18

and then just the like liquid

56:20

drops. Yeah. Fowl. Yeah. But you

56:22

know how to have that like

56:24

parties? Not no not in the

56:26

way. Not in the way. We're

56:28

like ever clear. I've seen yeah

56:30

in the game we'd put it

56:32

in like an actual gatorine container

56:34

it wasn't as it's not as

56:36

common it seems like it's a

56:38

super super common thing where like

56:40

they're you know in the streets

56:42

of Boston streets of Chicago there's

56:44

just all the confiscated for gallon

56:46

borks people name them and stuff

56:48

yeah what it is it's just

56:50

like a personal thing that you

56:52

bring around it's just get blacked

56:54

out yeah it used to be

56:56

just jungle juice in that cooler

56:58

in that cooler at the party

57:00

yeah and then you have some

57:02

of that you never have to

57:04

worry about to worry about to

57:06

worry about cleaning out the cooler

57:08

because you just make more jungle

57:10

juice and it goes in there.

57:12

But now, yeah, you've got your

57:14

own borg that you carry around.

57:16

Yeah, no, like it's just, it's,

57:18

it's, it's so ratchet. I assume

57:20

it's a half handle of vodka

57:22

and some. I assume it's also

57:24

like, it's a lot of underage

57:26

drinking, I would assume. Yeah, scoops.

57:28

Yeah, it's one of those things

57:30

that I saw it and I

57:33

immediately said. That would make me

57:35

want to die, but if I

57:37

I were 20 years old, I'd

57:39

be heavy into the borks. Definitely.

57:41

All right, so those are two

57:43

whose backs? All right, Hank, Hank

57:45

took one of my whose backs?

57:47

Borks? Borks, yeah. Oh, shit. Tarbar,

57:49

too, sorry. board. Yeah it definitely

57:51

made me it seems like a

57:53

case race thing but a board

57:55

race. I just think yeah chairman

57:57

of the board like that. My

57:59

who's back the week is Karen

58:01

Reed. You guys remember Karen Reed?

58:03

Yeah. So her trial is going

58:05

to resume starting? I think it's

58:07

going to restart Hank you probably

58:09

know more about it than I

58:11

do. Karen Reed. Is it they're

58:13

restarting her trial? Yeah. So I

58:15

thought what would happen? Why did

58:17

it get stopped last time? No,

58:19

I think it was a... They

58:21

didn't come to a decision or

58:23

whatever. Is that hung jury? No.

58:25

What's hung jury? Split jury? Hung

58:27

jury? When you're all just packing

58:29

heat. Yeah. I think that's it.

58:31

Too many cocks. There was a

58:33

lot of meat on the jury.

58:35

No, it was, uh, yeah, there

58:37

was... It's not unanimous. It wasn't

58:39

unanimous. It wasn't unanimous. Not unanimous.

58:41

Yes. Another murder news trial. There's

58:43

new OJ Simpson documentary, which I

58:45

watched. every single one that I

58:47

watch because I've already seen 20

58:49

of them but I'm gonna watch

58:51

it if it's out. I have

58:53

a question for you PFT if

58:55

we're in the circle of trust.

58:57

I actually almost made a purchase

58:59

for you the other night but

59:01

then I realize you know what

59:03

this is probably too messed up.

59:05

I should have done it. I

59:07

don't know if it's still live.

59:09

There was an auction selling off

59:11

OJ Simpson's clothes. What kind of

59:13

clothes? Like Hawaiian shirts? Oh, not

59:15

the clothes. No. But like, just

59:17

his entire closet. Listen, I don't

59:19

like OJ. I've been very clear

59:21

on that. OJ's been on my

59:23

shit list for a long time

59:25

ever since he blocked me on

59:27

twitter.com. So you're saying, so maybe

59:29

I shouldn't, I should have bought

59:31

it, but maybe the fucked up

59:33

part is that I saw it

59:35

and immediately thought of me. Yeah,

59:37

I want people to look at

59:39

OJ and their first thought to

59:41

be PFT. I know exactly who'd

59:43

want this shirt. Remember where we

59:45

always interviewed him outside of jail?

59:47

Yeah. Well, no, it wasn't outside

59:49

of jail. The deal was, there

59:51

was an alcohol brand, I won't

59:53

say their name, that was asking

59:55

us to pick him up from

59:57

jail from jail in a van

59:59

and do an on the ride

1:00:01

home from the jail in Las

1:00:03

Vegas Nevada. Like his first interview

1:00:06

out was gonna be with us

1:00:08

and we're like, you know what,

1:00:10

he's a murderer so we're gonna

1:00:12

pass. Credit to us. Integrity. Integrity.

1:00:14

Also would have just been a

1:00:16

terrible interview and he was doing.

1:00:18

He probably would have tried to

1:00:20

kill us. Yeah, it would have

1:00:22

been a bad one. All right,

1:00:24

here's the here's the auction site.

1:00:26

Let me see if there's still.

1:00:28

Okay, you could get. Where

1:00:31

oh, oh, it's Heisman's $10,000. That's

1:00:33

it? Yeah, I mean, I think

1:00:35

it's an auction so there's still

1:00:37

time to go 13 days to

1:00:40

go That's it's buying his eyes

1:00:42

will be pretty sad That is

1:00:44

a steel. That would be pretty

1:00:47

sick. That would be pretty fucking

1:00:49

sick. You want to do it?

1:00:51

Well, let's see. Let's someone? Someone

1:00:53

please keep a counter 12 days

1:00:56

from now. Let us know pretty

1:00:58

much you didn't do Buckles is

1:01:00

hot and heavy. Oh he's got

1:01:02

golf bags. That'd be sick too.

1:01:05

Now that, you having OJ's golf

1:01:07

bags? Yeah, would be pretty sick.

1:01:09

Yeah, I'm in on that. All

1:01:12

right, yeah, let's, let's get, there's

1:01:14

13 days left in the auction.

1:01:16

So we'll have to revisit. March

1:01:18

26th? I don't know. Do you

1:01:21

do the mats? You got the

1:01:23

calendar in front of you? What

1:01:25

website is the ODA auction on?

1:01:27

Is it on enter slash slash

1:01:30

slash slash escape? No, it's actually

1:01:32

the guy golden auctions. Yeah. We

1:01:34

head in. Yeah. Oh, I got

1:01:36

it. I got the joke. That's

1:01:39

an old school. Old school. Slash.

1:01:41

Slash, slash, slash, back slash. Escape

1:01:43

the PFT literally just dropped like

1:01:46

it was actually I remember I

1:01:48

think I even remember my dad

1:01:50

saying that joke in like 1996

1:01:52

I still I still don't get

1:01:55

it slash like a knife oh

1:01:57

Inter slash slash slash back slash

1:01:59

escape got it got it got

1:02:01

it and it was it was

1:02:04

like one of the premier dad

1:02:06

jokes when the internet came along

1:02:08

and they're like how can we make

1:02:11

the OJ internet it was a big one

1:02:13

back day because it like the internet

1:02:15

was new too yeah so it's like

1:02:17

combining two very current things Jay Leno

1:02:19

got paid probably 40 million

1:02:21

dollars just for those jokes that

1:02:24

Monica Lewinsky Oh, he's got his,

1:02:26

uh, his student ID. That's a

1:02:28

Revel. Revel's got to be all

1:02:30

over this. Yeah, that's the

1:02:32

problem is, like, if we

1:02:34

get some, we just have to

1:02:37

understand that Revel is going to

1:02:39

have his pause on one of these

1:02:41

things. Yeah. Yeah. Also, it's kind of

1:02:44

fucked up to just be like, I

1:02:46

have OJ's golf bag, but

1:02:48

also kind of a statement

1:02:50

piece. Ran for two baseballs

1:02:52

back. Cubs opening days Tuesday

1:02:55

morning in Japan against the

1:02:57

Dodgers. I hate that so much. Did

1:02:59

you see the camera angle? No, show

1:03:01

me the camera angle. I'm gonna

1:03:03

be live streaming with Eddie Chief

1:03:05

and White Sox-Stavantitis at 5.10 in

1:03:08

the morning. So this camera angle,

1:03:10

it looks like it's a video

1:03:12

game. Don't laugh at me, Hank.

1:03:14

That's wild. What? I mean, it's first

1:03:17

first pitch of the Major League

1:03:19

Baseball season. Where's the camera

1:03:21

angle? Look

1:03:24

up

1:03:27

Dan's

1:03:30

B

1:03:33

camera

1:03:37

because

1:03:41

there's

1:03:46

a sick angle of

1:03:48

Dansyby Swanson. Just type

1:03:51

cubs. Oh wait, that

1:03:53

was fake. Was it? It looks fake, it's scary.

1:03:55

This one? That was my point. Oh

1:03:57

yeah, that's definitely fake. Yeah, it's a video

1:03:59

game. Yeah, that's what this is what

1:04:01

I saw This is what I saw This

1:04:03

is another camera. So we all

1:04:06

scroll past that and thought maybe it's

1:04:08

real. This is so very fake. Yes,

1:04:10

this is this is like MLB the

1:04:12

show. That's insanely fake. Yeah, it's the

1:04:14

show. Did you think that was

1:04:16

I scored past it very fast on

1:04:19

my phone? And I thought that's what

1:04:21

he was talking about with the

1:04:23

camera angle Got it. I think

1:04:25

it's real Look at the TV, Hank.

1:04:28

Look to the left of you. Look

1:04:30

to the left of you. You

1:04:32

think it's real, Hank? That

1:04:34

is MLB, this show. That's so

1:04:36

faking. It looks fake. You just

1:04:39

said it looks real. But it's

1:04:41

so high tech, I think. I

1:04:43

don't know. I don't know. Hank,

1:04:45

there's no way that you think

1:04:48

this is. Why would Barcelona Sports

1:04:50

Main tweeted that it was

1:04:52

real? I understand that that's why that's why I brought the point

1:04:55

up is because if this was real it's scary how weird it

1:04:57

looks And if it's not real, then I'm happy because society is

1:04:59

all right. Good, you're happy. By the way, I found a new...

1:05:01

It was a talking point. I'm happy I brought it up. Yeah.

1:05:03

We got to the bottom of it, maybe. I found a new

1:05:05

kind of guy online on Friday. It's very rare that you find

1:05:07

a new guy. But there's been like a conspiracy out there for

1:05:10

a while that sunscreen is actually what gives you cancer, not the

1:05:12

rays from the sun. But that's been out there for a long

1:05:14

time. That's been out there for a new. That's been out there

1:05:16

for a new. That's been out there for a new. That's been

1:05:18

out there for a new. That's been out. That's been out. That's

1:05:20

been out. That's been out. That's been out. That's been out. That's

1:05:22

been out there for a. That's been out there for a new. That's been

1:05:25

out. That's been out there. That's been out there. That's been out

1:05:27

there All right, this person

1:05:29

says look at the MLB tweet.

1:05:31

Okay. This says it's actual footage

1:05:33

from a different angle Fed

1:05:35

into AI which then creates

1:05:37

the highlight. Okay. So it

1:05:39

is fake. So it's like that

1:05:42

really happened But then they

1:05:44

make this angle via AI. This is

1:05:46

also my sources Rob Jay oh

1:05:48

eight who and it has four

1:05:50

likes on Twitter also x.com be

1:05:52

everything else all happening on it's

1:05:54

all happening on a We can't

1:05:56

get over this ridiculous replay from

1:05:58

the Tokyo Dome. doing is they're

1:06:01

taking real highlights and then they're

1:06:03

making it look more like video

1:06:05

games so that kids will watch

1:06:07

the highest hurting my brain that sucks

1:06:09

so I brought it up it's crazy is

1:06:12

a talking point okay my other who's back

1:06:14

is uh but wait wait I didn't tell

1:06:16

you about the new guy oh yeah so

1:06:18

the the sunscreen truth was they've been out

1:06:21

there for a while then I found guys

1:06:23

that think that actually this is

1:06:25

a different sun That we switched

1:06:27

the sun out like 40 years ago,

1:06:29

and it's the new sun. And it's

1:06:31

worse? And it's worse for you. I

1:06:34

have so many questions though. One, where

1:06:36

did we make the new sun? What

1:06:38

did we do with the old sun?

1:06:40

What year did we switch it out?

1:06:42

And how is that person able to

1:06:44

get through life without dying every

1:06:46

single day getting hit by a car?

1:06:49

This is good. So I got to do

1:06:51

some more research on the new sun

1:06:53

guys. Good conspiracy. Yeah, it's

1:06:55

very good. Then actually I completely

1:06:57

believe that Chernobyl was on

1:06:59

purpose. Okay. Yeah. For what reason? Everyone

1:07:02

was doing nuclear power plants and

1:07:04

Russia has a shitload of oil and

1:07:06

gas. And so they're like, hey, let's

1:07:08

blow up a nuclear power plant and scare

1:07:11

the fuck out of everyone about

1:07:13

nuclear energy. Oh, I like that.

1:07:15

And then everyone stopped doing nuclear

1:07:17

energy. Or inside job. Maybe we

1:07:19

sabotaged it. to fuck with Russia. But that

1:07:21

wouldn't make sense for us because then we

1:07:24

have to buy their gas. Yeah, it's true.

1:07:26

Yeah. But that's just, I like that

1:07:28

one. That one was just cut and dry.

1:07:30

I just saw one tweet and I was

1:07:32

like, yep, I'm in. All right, my

1:07:34

other who's back is Aaron Rogers playing games

1:07:37

because Aaron Rogers is apparently the Giants and

1:07:39

the Steelers are sitting and waiting for

1:07:41

Aaron Rogers to decide if he wants to

1:07:43

be Minnesota Viking. And I don't know if

1:07:45

the Vikings Vikings are also... I

1:07:48

don't know what the Vikings are, if

1:07:50

they're waiting for Aaron Rogers or they're

1:07:52

like, hey, we haven't offered you anything.

1:07:54

I think the Vikings want them. I

1:07:56

don't think that the Vikings love JJ. Why

1:07:59

wouldn't they love JJ? I don't know. But

1:08:01

it seems weird that they're waiting for

1:08:03

Aaron Rogers to make his decision. If

1:08:05

they were really that convinced that Jay-J

1:08:07

was their guy, right? I read it

1:08:10

as the Vikings that... Yeah, I don't

1:08:12

know. I don't know what's going to

1:08:14

end up happening. Oh, so it is

1:08:16

a real highlight. with AI. It's like,

1:08:18

the footage is AI. Apologize. No, it's

1:08:21

a real highlight that they were like,

1:08:23

if this looked like video games, then

1:08:25

kids would like watching it. So let's

1:08:27

just turn the real highlight into a

1:08:30

video game. Apologize. The angle is AI.

1:08:32

The footage is real. What does that

1:08:34

mean? Look at it. That is not

1:08:36

like a, look at the difference between

1:08:39

the two video. Yeah, and where would

1:08:41

be, there's no, there's no camera behind.

1:08:43

There's no camera behind Dansy Swans. It's

1:08:45

lags! The juror, like the middle of

1:08:47

his torso lags. It could just be

1:08:50

a super wide lens, super long lens.

1:08:52

Yeah, could be a super long lens.

1:08:54

Look at his belt. Look at his

1:08:56

belt when he does this little action.

1:08:59

Well, it's a grainy video like the,

1:09:01

oh yeah, no, it glist, it glist,

1:09:03

it glist, come on. That's the play

1:09:05

on top, it's the same play, but

1:09:08

it's not a real camera that shot

1:09:10

a real camera that shot that shot

1:09:12

that shot that shot that shot that

1:09:14

shot that. Correct. The big camera that's

1:09:16

over top of everything, it sees all

1:09:19

the movement, and then it feeds it

1:09:21

into a little processor, and it's like

1:09:23

here, the idiots like Hank out there

1:09:25

will like this highlight more if it

1:09:28

looks like we're playing the show. Well,

1:09:30

and when MLB the main account posts

1:09:32

this and it doesn't have the little

1:09:34

AI tag or anything, and it just

1:09:37

says, I can't believe this replay, why

1:09:39

would I not believe that it's a

1:09:41

real replay? I'm very sad for the

1:09:43

future of our society. Aaron Rogers, yeah,

1:09:45

I don't know. I don't know what

1:09:48

the Vikings are going to do. I

1:09:50

have a good offense line. They made

1:09:52

some good moves in the free agency.

1:09:54

I feel like he'd be good on

1:09:57

the Steelers. Steelers would be funny. Yeah,

1:09:59

loves Mike Tomlin. Let's make the Steelers

1:10:01

happen. Where do you want him to

1:10:03

go memes? Uh, I would like the

1:10:06

Giants because I predicted that. But the

1:10:08

Vikings for the Brett Farr of the

1:10:10

storyline. That's memes for you. And that

1:10:12

means the Jets are going on the

1:10:14

AFC championship. Oh, okay, got it. Good

1:10:17

point. Good point. Okay, let's, uh, Hank

1:10:19

is still looking at this highlight. Are

1:10:21

you okay, Hank? Yeah, I'm trying to

1:10:23

get some proof that it's not real,

1:10:26

but you guys are just... You

1:10:29

got what? Never mind. Okay. Let's get

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going to do those games. So that's

1:13:41

Michigan State against Bryant, New Mexico against

1:13:43

Marquette. That's a great state of Ohio

1:13:46

here coming up this week. So it's

1:13:48

interesting you said that I like the

1:13:50

promo, it's maybe the best first four

1:13:53

in the history, the long vaunted history

1:13:55

of the first four. We got. and

1:13:57

see in there. And John, just put

1:13:59

a couple days ago, you were passionately

1:14:02

making your declaration that you and see

1:14:04

would not be in the first four.

1:14:06

What happened? What's going on with it?

1:14:09

Because I know that you talked to

1:14:11

Bubba Cunningham, the AD from UNC, so

1:14:13

what happened? This is one of the

1:14:15

biggest miscarriage of justices that I've seen

1:14:18

in all my years covering college basketball.

1:14:20

When you think right now about what

1:14:22

the criteria is to get teams into

1:14:25

the NCAA tournament, at the end of

1:14:27

the day, what is always going to

1:14:29

usurp everything is, who did you play?

1:14:31

Where did you play them? And did

1:14:34

you win? North Carolina was one in

1:14:36

12 against quad one opponents. That is

1:14:38

just a fact of life. And then

1:14:41

when you look at some of the

1:14:43

teams that were left out of the

1:14:45

bracket, the two that I'm looking at

1:14:47

specifically is West Virginia and Indiana. And

1:14:50

remember with North Carolina's resume, Carolina also

1:14:52

had a quad. three defeat on its

1:14:54

resume, which Indiana, who was left out

1:14:57

of the tournament in favor of North

1:14:59

Carolina, did not have. And if you're

1:15:01

looking at big wins right now, North

1:15:03

Carolina had won against the field. It

1:15:06

had the win against UCLA in the

1:15:08

CBS Sports Classic. Let's look at Indiana

1:15:10

head. And again, remember the Hoosiers had

1:15:13

no quad three and four losses. Indiana

1:15:15

won a road game at Michigan State.

1:15:17

In East Lansing, who was a two

1:15:20

C. C. Right. region, which I've named

1:15:22

the region of depth because of the

1:15:24

depth that exists with the Spartans, Auburn,

1:15:26

Texas A&M, and other programs in that

1:15:29

region, and Indiana also beat Purdue at

1:15:31

home. I don't understand how Carolina can

1:15:33

get in over Indiana if Indiana won

1:15:36

a game at Michigan State and beat

1:15:38

Purdue and doesn't have a quad three

1:15:40

or four loss, and Carolina does. But

1:15:42

what about West Virginia? beat Iowa State

1:15:45

at home of three seed. And West

1:15:47

Virginia on a neutral court, beat Arizona

1:15:49

State, and beat Gonzaga. This is one

1:15:52

of the biggest. miscarriage of justices that

1:15:54

i have seen in nearly twenty years

1:15:56

covering college basketball on the national level

1:15:58

now i will say this because north

1:16:01

carolina does not deserve to be in

1:16:03

the nc double a tournament that has

1:16:05

no bearing on what the tar heels

1:16:08

can do when they get into the

1:16:10

nc double a tournament and i'll give

1:16:12

you a perfect example fourteen years ago

1:16:14

I did not believe that VCU deserved

1:16:17

to be into the NCAA tournament. VCU

1:16:19

then started in the first four and

1:16:21

went all the way to the final

1:16:24

four under shock of smart. And VCU

1:16:26

in the regular season that year averaged

1:16:28

8.3 made three-point shots a game and

1:16:30

then May 12 in the NCAA tournament.

1:16:33

So what Carolina does moving forward has

1:16:35

no bearing on whether or not the

1:16:37

tar heels deserve to be in the

1:16:40

field. But my heart breaks for West

1:16:42

Virginia, it breaks for Indiana that North

1:16:44

Carolina... got this opportunity instead of them.

1:16:46

So you talked to Bubba Cunningham, the

1:16:49

AD from UNC. What was his explanation?

1:16:51

What did he say? Was he just

1:16:53

like, hey, wasn't my call? Did he

1:16:56

try to defend it? He was very

1:16:58

very clear that he was not involved

1:17:00

in obviously what was going on in

1:17:03

the room when North Carolina was brought

1:17:05

up but you guys know this as

1:17:07

well as I do. It always helps

1:17:09

to help out your friends and when

1:17:12

you're in a situation like this where

1:17:14

the committee chair is from North Carolina

1:17:16

it's obviously going to influence the other

1:17:19

committee members. Now I understand he can

1:17:21

leave the premises when a resume of

1:17:23

the tar heels is going to be

1:17:25

brought to the table but I'm sorry.

1:17:28

This again is the biggest miscarriage of

1:17:30

justice that I've seen in nearly 20

1:17:32

years covering college basketball at the national

1:17:35

level. My heart breaks for Darren DeVries

1:17:37

in West Virginia, my heart breaks for

1:17:39

Indiana and its fan base. But again,

1:17:41

North Carolina is going to get an

1:17:44

opportunity here in the first four to

1:17:46

do some major things in this bracket

1:17:48

if it can beat San Diego State

1:17:51

coming up here on Tuesday night. All

1:17:53

right, so I agree with everything you

1:17:55

said. It's crazy UNC got in. Relationships

1:17:57

matter. Bubber Cunningham can leave the room.

1:18:00

when he comes back in the room,

1:18:02

those are the people he's been sitting

1:18:04

with all weekend. That's, that has a

1:18:07

effect. Whether you want to say it's

1:18:09

subconscious, that's fine, but it has an

1:18:11

effect. I also don't understand the, it

1:18:13

feels like this bracket is just littered

1:18:16

with some weird decisions. Gonzaga's a top

1:18:18

10 team in Ken Palm, they're an

1:18:20

eight seed, and they're going up against,

1:18:23

what is it, Houston in the second

1:18:25

round if they win their first round

1:18:27

game. Auburn who's the number one overall

1:18:30

seed if Louisville wins their set first

1:18:32

round game Auburn has to play a

1:18:34

road game in their second game as

1:18:36

a number one overall seed Michigan was

1:18:39

the was a five seed I think

1:18:41

they got Miss seeded you had VCU

1:18:43

is is probably not an 11 seed

1:18:46

probably should have been higher than that

1:18:48

right like it's all over the map

1:18:50

where it feels like they just prey

1:18:52

and sprayed a lot of this stuff

1:18:55

and it doesn't really make sense you

1:18:57

have Colorado state is a three and

1:18:59

a half point favorite as a 12

1:19:02

seed over Memphis the five seed. Yeah,

1:19:05

it feels like in a lot of

1:19:07

areas of the bracket we did not

1:19:09

have a compass and there was no

1:19:11

rhyme or reason in a lot of

1:19:13

things that were going on I thought

1:19:15

for certain that Gonzaga would have been

1:19:18

better than an eight after it beat

1:19:20

St. Mary's in Las Vegas last week

1:19:22

in the WCC tournament But I'm with

1:19:24

you cat I think there's a lot

1:19:26

of different things that really stood out

1:19:29

here another thing that stood out to

1:19:31

me and I wasn't surprised about this

1:19:33

I felt with the way that the

1:19:35

selection committee had treated the mountain west

1:19:37

last last year by putting two teams

1:19:39

into the first foreign Dayton that Boise

1:19:42

State was vulnerable by not winning the

1:19:44

automatic qualifier on Saturday and that's what

1:19:46

came to fruition. Xavier had a pristine

1:19:48

resume in quad three and four and

1:19:50

Xavier also we have to remember lost

1:19:52

two games in December without Zach Fremantle

1:19:55

in the lineup who was a 17

1:19:57

and 7 guy at Yukon in overtime

1:19:59

and also by a to ask at

1:20:01

home against Marquette. As you guys know

1:20:03

as well as I do, and we

1:20:06

had heard this when we spoke to

1:20:08

Bubba Cunningham, I believe on Friday, player

1:20:10

availability matters in the NCAA tournament when

1:20:12

you're evaluating teams. If Xavier obviously is

1:20:14

gonna have Zach Freeman at the NCAA

1:20:16

tournament, which it will, it's gonna be

1:20:19

a much more formidable team. I think

1:20:21

that is one of the biggest reasons

1:20:23

why the musketeers are gonna hook up

1:20:25

here with. Texas in the first four

1:20:27

on Wednesday, and you guys know I've

1:20:30

been doing the first four now for

1:20:32

a number of years We have never

1:20:34

had Brands like this in the big

1:20:36

games in the first four in terms

1:20:38

of you know games on back-to-back nights

1:20:40

North Carolina and San Diego State have

1:20:43

appeared in two of the last three

1:20:45

national title games Xavier Xavier and get

1:20:47

this u d arena is 47 miles

1:20:49

away from the Syntas Center where Xavier

1:20:51

plays its home games. That's going to

1:20:54

be obviously a Xavier home game. And

1:20:56

Texas has a lottery pick in Trey

1:20:58

Johnson and it's Texas. Yeah. So I

1:21:00

think you know the brands in this

1:21:02

first four in terms of the Marquis

1:21:04

games are second to none. And I've

1:21:07

said this guys time and time again,

1:21:09

you know, the three of us haven't

1:21:11

really schmoozed about this, but I want

1:21:13

to put it out there right now.

1:21:15

You guys know how I feel about

1:21:17

NCAA tournament expansion. I've said for a

1:21:20

long time that Jeff Goldblum said in

1:21:22

the Lost World in 1997 that taking

1:21:24

dinosaurs off this island was the worst

1:21:26

idea in the history of long-said history

1:21:28

of bad ideas. Expanding the tournament will

1:21:31

be worse than that. But I do

1:21:33

think this, I think if you're good

1:21:35

enough to get an automatic qualifier to

1:21:37

the NCAA tournament, you deserve to partake

1:21:39

in the Thursday and Friday of the

1:21:41

first week. I think if we made

1:21:44

that shift and moved all a cues

1:21:46

to Thursday Friday and then put the

1:21:48

last eight at large teams in the

1:21:50

first four, it would reward these programs

1:21:52

again at the lower level and give

1:21:55

them the NCAA tournament experience of Thursday

1:21:57

Friday and also spruce up the way

1:21:59

we start the tournament with maybe four

1:22:01

bigger games instead of two. I like

1:22:03

that. I agree. I think we were

1:22:05

talking about expanding the tournament. We said

1:22:08

don't expand it. the way that it

1:22:10

is, but if you were, do it

1:22:12

that way, so you don't make the

1:22:14

automatic qualifiers play playing games on a

1:22:16

Tuesday or Wednesday. I got a question

1:22:18

for you, John, about the injury stuff.

1:22:21

T.J. Altsaburger announced after the bracket came

1:22:23

out that Kishon Gilbert is out for

1:22:25

Iowa State. Does, like, was that, that

1:22:27

was just a smart move by him

1:22:29

because do you think Iowa State would

1:22:32

have had a different seed if that

1:22:34

had been known to the committee going

1:22:36

into selection, you know, you know, you

1:22:38

know, because like, because like, There Iowa

1:22:40

State's playing yeah, it's very possible Yeah,

1:22:42

and like in Wisconsin has to go

1:22:45

all the way out to Denver Right,

1:22:47

you know, it's very possible that you

1:22:49

would go to a flip-flopped Iowa State

1:22:51

and Wisconsin if that information was made

1:22:53

privy to the committee before the selection

1:22:56

went out I remember it was 25

1:22:58

years ago now Cincinnati had the best

1:23:00

team in the country with Kenyon Martin

1:23:02

in 2000 and Kenny Martin broke his

1:23:04

leg in the conference USA tournament that

1:23:06

year and Cincinnati which had been dominant

1:23:09

all year long number one team consensus

1:23:11

in the country was dropped to the

1:23:13

two line And it was ridiculous and

1:23:15

Bob Huggin said it at the time,

1:23:17

but they were evaluating Cincinnati without Kenyon

1:23:20

Martin who wound up being the number

1:23:22

one player in the Ambied address. So

1:23:24

I totally agree with you on that

1:23:26

cat. Okay, so let's get to the

1:23:28

actual bracket. We got some other questions

1:23:30

that we'll ask you after, but let's

1:23:33

talk about the bracket. I know you

1:23:35

always break it down, so I kind

1:23:37

of will let you go whichever direction

1:23:39

you want to go. Tell us what

1:23:41

you've got. And yeah, go off. We'll

1:23:43

jump in where we'll jump in where

1:23:46

we'll jump in where we'll jump in

1:23:48

where we'll jump in where we'll jump

1:23:50

in where we'll jump in where we'll

1:23:52

jump in where we want to where

1:23:54

we want to where we want to

1:23:57

jump in where we want to jump

1:23:59

in where we want to jump in

1:24:01

where we want to jump in where

1:24:03

we want to jump in where we

1:24:05

want to jump in where we want

1:24:07

to jump in where we want to

1:24:10

jump in where we want to jump

1:24:12

in where we want to jump in

1:24:14

where we want All right, guys, well,

1:24:16

let's start right now on the top

1:24:18

left of your bracket, which is the

1:24:21

region of depth, the South region. Now,

1:24:23

why is it the region of depth?

1:24:25

I'm looking right now at these teams

1:24:27

at the top. Auburn, Michigan State, Texas

1:24:29

A&M, really deep rotations on all of

1:24:31

these teams, all of these teams can

1:24:34

really go into their bench. That's why

1:24:36

I like it to be the region

1:24:38

of depth. I obviously got Auburn coming

1:24:40

out of the top. I am going

1:24:42

to take Creaeton to beat Louisville at

1:24:45

Rup Arena the Rup arena. talk runner

1:24:47

factor. He's kind of like, and I

1:24:49

haven't really watched a hockey game in

1:24:51

probably 30 years, but wasn't Martin Brodore

1:24:53

that famous goalie for the Devils in

1:24:55

like the 90s? Yeah, he's kind of

1:24:58

like the Martin Brodore of like, you

1:25:00

know, the big East, you know, he's

1:25:02

kind of like the goalie because he's

1:25:04

so good defensively. Then I am going

1:25:06

to take Michigan to beat you see

1:25:08

San Diego who's going to be a

1:25:11

trendy upset pick and here. under James

1:25:13

Jones a program that beat Auburn last

1:25:15

year to pick off Texas A&M at

1:25:17

a 13-4 game in Denver remember Yale

1:25:19

beat Auburn last year beat Baylor in

1:25:22

2016 and then I think when you

1:25:24

look at the next part of the

1:25:26

bracket in this region of depth this

1:25:28

is Taylor made for Chris Beard to

1:25:30

really really go on a run right

1:25:32

here I felt all season long that

1:25:35

Olmas reminded me of some of the

1:25:37

teams that Chris Beard had a Texas

1:25:39

Tech I've got Olmus beating the winner

1:25:41

of San Diego State Carolina and then

1:25:43

beating a vulnerable Iowa State team without

1:25:46

Keith Gilbert. All miss to the Sweet

1:25:48

16. I'm gonna take Marquette to beat

1:25:50

New Mexico and Michigan State to beat

1:25:52

Marquette. To beat. Marquette to beat New

1:25:54

Mexico and Michigan State to beat Marquette.

1:25:56

So in the Sweet 16 here, I'm

1:25:59

gonna give you Auburn against the Michigan

1:26:01

State in a regional final Atlanta and

1:26:03

I've got Tomizzo getting back to the

1:26:05

final. is the most underrated coach in

1:26:07

America, right? I think he's the most

1:26:10

underrated coach in America. It amazes me

1:26:12

that James Jones has not gotten a

1:26:14

bigger job. He has won the Ivy

1:26:16

League multiple times in the last couple

1:26:18

years, as I mentioned, won a game

1:26:20

against Auburn last year in the NCAA

1:26:23

tournament, won a game against Auburn last

1:26:25

year in the NCAA tournament, won a

1:26:27

game against Baylor, And you think about

1:26:29

the dynamic right now for this team

1:26:31

that again is going into the NCAA

1:26:33

tournament as a trendy, trendy upset pick

1:26:36

potentially. Yale is in a scenario, okay,

1:26:38

where it lost Danny Wolf to Michigan

1:26:40

and it lost Matt Nolling. two U.S.C.

1:26:42

and it is still in the scenario

1:26:44

that it's in right now where it

1:26:47

made the NCAA tournament. That is a

1:26:49

credit to the head coach. A couple

1:26:51

of names you want to keep your

1:26:53

eye out for for Yale right now

1:26:55

as you're getting ready to think about

1:26:57

the NCAA tournament against Texas A&M. Nick

1:27:00

Townsend obviously a very, very burly forward

1:27:02

inside. He's going to have to hold

1:27:04

his own on the glass and then

1:27:06

John Pulakit is a dynamite, dynamite lefty

1:27:08

shooter can come off screens. He's. He

1:27:11

had 25 against Cornell in the title

1:27:13

game. and bang along with Casey Simmons.

1:27:15

Cat, you might remember from the Big

1:27:17

Ten, started his career at Northwestern before

1:27:19

he transferred the New Haven. Okay, and

1:27:21

then you got Tom Iso over Bruce

1:27:24

Pearl to get to the final four

1:27:26

there. What's your thought about Auburn right

1:27:28

now? What's your thought about Auburn right

1:27:30

now? Because they were dominant all year

1:27:32

long. You got Tom Iso over Bruce

1:27:34

Pearl to get to the final four

1:27:37

there. What's what's your thought about Auburn

1:27:39

right now because they were dominant. You

1:27:41

know, last year, Yukon was so removed

1:27:43

from the pack because it was a

1:27:45

two-year run that we may never see

1:27:48

again in our lifetimes in terms of

1:27:50

the level of dominance. 12 NCAA tournament

1:27:52

wins by an average of 21.7 points

1:27:54

per game. But we do not have

1:27:56

a team this year like Yukon. We

1:27:58

do not have a figure this year

1:28:01

like Zach Edie at Purdue last year

1:28:03

the only player since Ralph Sampson in

1:28:05

the in the 1980s to win obviously

1:28:07

national player the year awards in back-to-back

1:28:09

season So I think Auburn's a little

1:28:12

bit vulnerable right now. I do think

1:28:14

it's a big advantage for the Tigers

1:28:16

to be playing in Atlanta, which isn't

1:28:18

that far from the Auburn campus potentially

1:28:20

in the Sweet 16 But if Louisville

1:28:22

does beat Creton in the first round,

1:28:25

Auburn will have a pseudo road game

1:28:27

there at Ruporina, which is something to

1:28:29

monitor. Yeah. Okay, let's go west, where

1:28:31

Florida's the one seed, Florida's playing. probably

1:28:33

the best ball of anyone right now

1:28:36

of what they did in the SEC

1:28:38

tournament was incredible. What are we calling

1:28:40

the West? This is the region of

1:28:42

prestige because four coaches in this region,

1:28:44

Dan Hurley, Rick Patino, John Caliparian Bill

1:28:46

Selp have won national titles. Also, Florida...

1:28:49

The one seed in this region has

1:28:51

won multiple national titles in the last

1:28:53

20 years. So there's brand name power

1:28:55

in this region. I got Florida or

1:28:57

for Norfolk State. I got Yukon over

1:28:59

Oklahoma. Both coaches in that game Dan

1:29:02

Hurley and Porter Moser have been in

1:29:04

a situation where they've coached in a

1:29:06

final four in the last decade. Dan

1:29:08

Hurley's won two national titles. I'm taking

1:29:10

Neek Clifford in Colorado State over Memphis,

1:29:13

Maryland over Grand Canyon. Drake. started from

1:29:15

the bottom now that here in my

1:29:17

opinion has has for all intents and

1:29:19

purposes an interesting road here and I'm

1:29:21

gonna tell you why you got Missouri

1:29:23

and you got Ben McCollum who's really

1:29:26

looking like you know a bit of

1:29:28

a wizard At Drake, it wouldn't shock

1:29:30

me if next year he's coaching somewhere

1:29:32

in the Big Ten. He's got a

1:29:34

31 team with 4D2 transfers. One of

1:29:37

them, Mitch Miskari, has made 86 three-point

1:29:39

shots this year. If Drake beats Missouri,

1:29:41

Drake gets a vulnerable Texas tech team

1:29:43

in the round of 32. Now, why

1:29:45

are they vulnerable? Grant McCaslin told me

1:29:47

earlier on Sunday night that he expects

1:29:50

Chance McMillan and Darian Williams to play

1:29:52

in the first round against UNC Wilmington.

1:29:54

Those players didn't play in Texas Tech's

1:29:56

last big 12 tournament game due to

1:29:58

injuries So Texas Tech's a little bit

1:30:01

banged up. I think Drake is a

1:30:03

team with Ben McCollum if it can

1:30:05

get by Missouri That could maybe flirt

1:30:07

with a chance to go to the

1:30:09

sweet 16 and then how about the

1:30:11

lower part of that region in Providence?

1:30:14

Kansas and Arkansas Calipary against self two

1:30:16

coaches that coached against each other in

1:30:18

the title game in 2012 and in

1:30:20

St. John's on Omaha. Now look, you

1:30:22

guys understand media as well as anybody.

1:30:24

I work for CBS. I know how

1:30:27

much the program executives love to match

1:30:29

up certain games on Saturday nights and

1:30:31

going to 60 minutes. And look, whoever

1:30:33

St. John's plays on Saturday Night's, and

1:30:35

look, whoever St. John's plays on Saturday

1:30:38

night, it would be great. It would

1:30:40

be an incredible matchup of Hall of

1:30:42

Fame coaches. But if it's Calapary and

1:30:44

Patino, it would become. again appointment television

1:30:46

and it would be the third time

1:30:48

that these guys have met in the

1:30:51

NCAA tournament I believe yeah since 2012

1:30:53

and remember they also met in the

1:30:55

1996 final four now I've talked to

1:30:57

Rick Patino about this and I did

1:30:59

an interview with him when he was

1:31:02

at I own and he made a

1:31:04

joke about it but I think he

1:31:06

was telling the truth he said one

1:31:08

of the reasons why he came back

1:31:10

to college was to get John Gallapari

1:31:12

off his resume because if you think

1:31:15

about it these coaches each took three

1:31:17

different schools to a final four. So

1:31:19

that's another thing that is lying here

1:31:21

in the weeds right now. Rick Patino

1:31:23

is trying to get a fourth school

1:31:26

to a final four, but he might

1:31:28

have to go through John Calipari to

1:31:30

do it. It's going to be Calipari

1:31:32

yourself as long as St. John's gets

1:31:34

by Omaha. So I have Florida Yukon,

1:31:36

Colorado State, Maryland. Drake, Texas, Tech, and

1:31:39

then I'm going to go Arkansas, St.

1:31:41

John's. I've got St. John's against Drake

1:31:43

in the Sweet 16, and I've got

1:31:45

Florida against Maryland in the region of

1:31:47

prestige. I'm going Florida over St. John's

1:31:49

in a regional final. So on the

1:31:52

left side of the bracket, I've got

1:31:54

Michigan State against Florida, and ironically enough,

1:31:56

you know, I love good nuggets guys.

1:31:58

That would be a rematch of the

1:32:00

2000 national title game that Michigan State

1:32:03

won 8976 and Indianapolis. There we go.

1:32:05

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1:32:07

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more John Rothstein what about in the

1:33:06

east where we have Duke who Duke

1:33:08

is I said it before you came

1:33:10

on I think Duke's winning the whole

1:33:12

thing. They're just, they're so good. And

1:33:14

even without Cooper flag in the AC

1:33:17

tournament, they showed how good they are.

1:33:19

I think he's gonna be fine. He'll

1:33:21

come back and they're gonna roll through

1:33:23

everyone. Yeah, you know, guys, it's amazing.

1:33:25

And I think it speaks obviously how

1:33:28

talented Duke is, but it also speaks

1:33:30

to the state of the ACC right

1:33:32

now. Duke was able. to win the

1:33:34

ACC tournament and be Carolina and Louisville

1:33:36

in back-to-back days without Cooper Flat and

1:33:38

also without Malique Brown who, you know,

1:33:41

Duke Staff feels this way and I

1:33:43

know from being, you know, on Duke's

1:33:45

campus in the pre-season, he's like Emil

1:33:47

Jefferson was 10 years ago, not to

1:33:49

bring up bad memories there, Kat. But

1:33:52

I mean, you know what I'm saying

1:33:54

in terms of a versatile defender that

1:33:56

can be a factor defensively in that

1:33:58

rotation. Those two players don't play and

1:34:00

all of a sudden, we have a

1:34:02

scenario where... Duke is still beating Louisville

1:34:05

who is the second best team this

1:34:07

year of them in Clemson in the

1:34:09

ACC and North Carolina. That is not

1:34:11

obviously a great obviously ringing endorsement for

1:34:13

the ACC but for Duke it speaks

1:34:15

to their town level. I've got Duke

1:34:18

playing Mississippi State. I've got Oregon Arizona

1:34:20

which to me could be one of

1:34:22

the best games in the round of

1:34:24

32 these former back 12 rivals hooking

1:34:26

up. Yeah. Then I'm gonna take VCU

1:34:29

to beat BYU to hook up with

1:34:31

Wisconsin, the most aesthetically pleasing Wisconsin team

1:34:33

of our lifetime. Thank you. And then

1:34:35

I'm gonna be in Cleveland for these

1:34:37

games. So I'm pumped about this. I'm

1:34:39

taking St. Mary's to beat Vanderbilt. I'm

1:34:42

taking Alabama to beat Robert Morris. I've

1:34:44

got Duke Oregon, Wisconsin to the Sweet

1:34:46

16 to take on Alabama. And then

1:34:48

I'm going to take in a rematch.

1:34:50

of the 2015 national title A. Duke,

1:34:53

over Wisconsin in Newark to go to

1:34:55

the final four. That's the region of

1:34:57

firepower because Duke, Alabama, Wisconsin, Arizona, Oregon,

1:34:59

obviously explosive teams offensily. So much offense

1:35:01

in that region. So you got VCU

1:35:03

over B-Y-U, it sounds like you're not

1:35:06

a B-Y-U lever. Did you just come

1:35:08

on? I'm not. I just came up

1:35:10

with that. Have you ever heard of

1:35:12

that? If you want to use it?

1:35:14

Yeah, use that one. I like, I

1:35:17

like BIU. I think Kevin Young's done

1:35:19

an incredible job and I think they

1:35:21

got great pieces. But look, it's not

1:35:23

fun if you don't roll the dice

1:35:25

places in your bracket. The NCAA tournaments

1:35:27

in fun. So I'm looking right now

1:35:30

at the BIU VCU VCU matchup and

1:35:32

I know that we have seen. a

1:35:34

scenario where B.Y.U. has, you know, played

1:35:36

great basketball last couple of weeks and

1:35:38

wouldn't shock me if B.Y.U. wins a

1:35:40

couple games. But I'm looking at this,

1:35:43

V.C.U. is no 11 seed. And if

1:35:45

there was one thing that I would

1:35:47

say right now, the non-power conference teams,

1:35:49

after having a high volume of wins

1:35:51

during the regular season, V.C.U. with Maxchulga,

1:35:54

Zeb Jackson. Joe Bamaseel, all these guys,

1:35:56

okay, Philip Russell as well, has the

1:35:58

deepest perimeter in the Atlantic 10 since

1:36:00

Dan Hurley's last team at Rhode Island,

1:36:02

had Fats Russell, Jeff Doughton, Stan Robinson,

1:36:04

J.T. Terrell, E.C. Matthews and Jarvis Garrett.

1:36:07

That team you have to remember beat

1:36:09

Trey Young in Oklahoma in the NCAA

1:36:11

tournament and lost to Marvin Bagley and

1:36:13

Duke in 2018. This VCU team is

1:36:15

for real and also another player on

1:36:18

VCU. Jack Clark was a part of

1:36:20

the Clemson team last year that went

1:36:22

to the elite eight and lost to

1:36:24

Alabama. VCU is the best VCU team

1:36:26

since we saw Briante Weber and Company

1:36:28

lose to Stephen have Austin in 2014.

1:36:31

John, when you're rattling off all these

1:36:33

names from old teams, do you ever

1:36:35

just think about making up a name

1:36:37

and tossing it in there, see if

1:36:39

you get called on it? I would

1:36:42

do that if I were you. It's

1:36:44

an interesting proposition, it never crossed my

1:36:46

mind. I just go to the internal

1:36:48

hard drive and I just keep it

1:36:50

moving. Just like if you're thinking of

1:36:52

an A10 team from 2006, just tossing

1:36:55

the name, I don't know, like Tommy

1:36:57

Spannonati. You know me though PFT and

1:36:59

your America's drinking buddy for a reason

1:37:01

I pride myself on being as accurate

1:37:03

and as thorough as possible So I

1:37:05

feel like I'd be shortchanging the beat

1:37:08

if I did that. That is true.

1:37:10

So I have a question for you

1:37:12

because you are plugged in John Yeah,

1:37:14

and that's not a robot comment. You're

1:37:16

plugged in you talked a lot of

1:37:19

people Grant Nelson from Alabama Yeah, what

1:37:21

are we hearing about him because I

1:37:23

think Alabama is a good team? You

1:37:25

know, I would still take them in

1:37:27

the first two games. What are you

1:37:29

hearing about? It's his knee, right? Yeah,

1:37:32

I have an update for you. I

1:37:34

had a bunch of injury updates earlier,

1:37:36

so I'm gonna just read you exactly

1:37:38

what I tweeted. And in NATO, it's

1:37:40

texting me this in the early afternoon,

1:37:43

but I want to give you guys

1:37:45

the full reports. I have a couple

1:37:47

of injury updates of substance for the

1:37:49

NCAA tournaments. You guys just let me

1:37:51

know what you want. Yeah. So Grant

1:37:53

Nelson's going to see a knee specialist

1:37:56

on Monday. And then, you know, as

1:37:58

I told you, like Alabama plays Robert

1:38:00

Morris in Cleveland, that's one to monitor

1:38:02

some other stuff from Sunday. And this

1:38:04

is big for the first four. Brian

1:38:07

Duchar told me that Magoon Guoff, the

1:38:09

Mountain West freshman and defensive player of

1:38:11

the year, is gonna be available for

1:38:13

the NCAA tournament. So in the first

1:38:15

four Tuesday night, Magoon Guoff will be

1:38:17

available to play against North Carolina. He

1:38:20

hasn't played since February 22nd. That's a

1:38:22

big boost for San Diego State. Mark

1:38:24

Pope also told me earlier on Sunday

1:38:26

morning that Lamont Butler will be available

1:38:28

for Kentucky's first NCAA tournament game. He's

1:38:30

been dealing with a shoulder and John

1:38:33

Calipari has told me that a due

1:38:35

thero is doubtful for the Kansas game

1:38:37

due to the knee injury he has

1:38:39

been dealing with. He hasn't played since

1:38:41

February 22nd, but Boogie planned we thought

1:38:44

was out for the season, came back

1:38:46

on Sunday to practice. went through practice,

1:38:48

had no missteps, he should be fine.

1:38:50

I was referencing the Missouri Drake game.

1:38:52

According to a school spokesman, Mark Mitchell

1:38:54

for Missouri is expected to be fully

1:38:57

available for that basketball game against Drake

1:38:59

and the round of 64. A note

1:39:01

from Scott Drew, Langston Love is expected

1:39:03

to be available against Mississippi State in

1:39:05

the East Region. He averages just over

1:39:08

eight points per game. another nugget for

1:39:10

a number one seed. Calvin Samson told

1:39:12

me that Jay, Jay, Ron Roberts, who

1:39:14

did not play at the end of

1:39:16

the Big 12 tournament due to an

1:39:18

ankle injury. There's, they're obviously veteran leader,

1:39:21

is receiving treatment. He'll be reevaluated on

1:39:23

Monday in terms of his status for

1:39:25

the Cougars first game. Which make, I

1:39:27

just want to make sure I don't

1:39:29

leave anything out there. But those are

1:39:31

the bullet points as an hour. Every

1:39:34

single one I believe I mean I

1:39:36

do what I do is I kind

1:39:38

of like when I get back from

1:39:40

the final four like use April to

1:39:42

detox a little bit and then you

1:39:45

just you spend some time over the

1:39:47

summer just making sure your Rolex is

1:39:49

on point and everything is on point

1:39:51

and then you know you just go.

1:39:53

You know you make sure you're locked

1:39:55

in. Yeah how often do you text

1:39:58

these guys? I would say probably. Let

1:40:01

me think. I mean, I think it's

1:40:03

pretty, I have daily communication. So it's

1:40:05

like, I would say with every staff,

1:40:07

there's daily communication. It might just be

1:40:09

for an injury update. It might be

1:40:11

like, what is the key to this

1:40:13

game? On game days, I like to

1:40:15

follow up if a team, because if

1:40:17

I'm in the studio, I like to

1:40:19

have obviously, you know, nuggets on what

1:40:21

they think keys to the game are

1:40:23

or trends to watch, because when you're

1:40:25

trying to, as somebody who's a non

1:40:27

player or a non-player or coach, get

1:40:29

the insight, of the player of you

1:40:31

know the teams that I'm covering from

1:40:33

their perspective so it's constant communication in

1:40:35

the off seasons constant communication as well

1:40:37

because there's thing to cover during the

1:40:39

off season yeah I like yeah because

1:40:42

I mean I read the article in

1:40:44

New York Times it was great that

1:40:46

said that the Ross team Texas inside

1:40:48

joke in the industry now I feel

1:40:50

like they're being disrespectful to you with

1:40:52

that No, I mean, look, I mean,

1:40:54

you guys know me now for a

1:40:56

number of years. I mean, I don't

1:40:58

make any bones about this. You know,

1:41:00

I did not have any connections in

1:41:02

this industry. You know, I have no

1:41:04

inheritance, so I don't have any other

1:41:06

choice but to work as hard as

1:41:08

I can each and every single day

1:41:10

to be as thorough as I can

1:41:12

to do the best job I can,

1:41:14

and I'm never going to happen. Yeah,

1:41:16

the world meets nobody halfway. And you

1:41:18

know that because you told me that

1:41:20

you thought over the top was an

1:41:22

underrated movie by Stallone. That is, it's

1:41:24

facts. Yeah, no, you are, you are,

1:41:26

I love the article because I, there

1:41:28

were some things I didn't even know,

1:41:30

like that you basically bought time on

1:41:33

a radio station that had no one

1:41:35

listening to it just to get reps.

1:41:37

Yes. Really, an awesome story of how

1:41:39

to work your way up through the

1:41:41

industry. And the other nugget I had

1:41:43

from it from it was, you get

1:41:45

your haircut every Sunday. Every Sunday, yeah,

1:41:47

at 10 a.m. That's an outstanding appointment.

1:41:49

An out of season. Yes, just if

1:41:51

I follow as long as I'm home,

1:41:53

as long as I'm home, 10 a.m.

1:41:55

every Sunday, a creature happens. So what

1:41:57

do you do when you're on the

1:41:59

road? On the road this week, because

1:42:01

I'm leaving Monday, and obviously I couldn't

1:42:03

do it, selection Sunday, I got Thursday,

1:42:05

and I said just go a little

1:42:07

shorter on the sides, because I'm not

1:42:09

going to be back in New York,

1:42:11

back in New York, a week, you

1:42:13

know, a week from now, because I'm

1:42:15

going to Dayton and then we're going

1:42:17

up to Cleveland and those first and

1:42:19

second round games are Friday, Sunday, but

1:42:22

I want to tell you guys something

1:42:24

if I can backtrack a little bit,

1:42:26

because I know you guys obviously started

1:42:28

out with humble beginnings too. That experience

1:42:30

of selling air time. was the most

1:42:32

humbling experience that I ever had in

1:42:34

my life because at that time I

1:42:36

was making like $13 an hour screening

1:42:38

calls and doing reporting at ESPN Radio

1:42:40

New York. I was cold calling for

1:42:42

my friends brothers mortgage company like Glenn

1:42:44

Gary Glenn Ross. that was like what

1:42:46

I was living and just cold calling

1:42:48

people out of the yellow pages and

1:42:50

I was like making $50 an article

1:42:52

writing college basketball for different publications so

1:42:54

I knew though I needed like a

1:42:56

demo to try and have an opportunity

1:42:58

so I would like walk up and

1:43:00

down neuroshell going into businesses trying to

1:43:02

buy airtime and nobody would buy anything

1:43:04

and I remember talking to a guy

1:43:06

in a car dealership and this is

1:43:08

like probably 20 years ago and I

1:43:11

said well you if I do a

1:43:13

weekly show you know, will you buy

1:43:15

some maritime? And he goes, well, is

1:43:17

Joe Torrey a weekly guest? And I

1:43:19

didn't know who that was at the

1:43:21

time. And then he was like, he's

1:43:23

like, well, if Joe Torrey's not a

1:43:25

weekly guest, then I'm not doing it.

1:43:27

Oh, man. It was that moment where

1:43:29

I was just like, look, I'm not

1:43:31

going to become. anything in his business

1:43:33

unless I have calluses and I'm getting

1:43:35

calluses right now but that also brought

1:43:37

me back to the over-the-top thing you

1:43:39

know the world meets nobody halfway yeah

1:43:41

no it's very cool and it's it's

1:43:43

a very cool story and I think

1:43:45

people should go read it because it

1:43:47

gives kind of a backstory of like

1:43:49

hey John Rothstein has has done it

1:43:51

the hard way you know people don't

1:43:53

people need to respect that because it's

1:43:55

very hard business to to break into

1:43:57

and you weren't a coach you weren't

1:44:00

a player and to get into it

1:44:02

is is is awesome Well, another thing

1:44:04

too, and you guys know I have

1:44:06

a passion for this, but you know,

1:44:08

when, in my 20s, when like people

1:44:10

that I was close with in New

1:44:12

York and friends like that were taking

1:44:14

vacations and traveling, I went to AAU

1:44:16

tournaments and networked. That's what I would

1:44:18

do. Like I would sit with Dan

1:44:20

Hurley when he was at Wagner and,

1:44:22

you know, build a relationship. I would

1:44:24

sit with Bill's self. I drove once.

1:44:26

I remember to Virginia, there was this

1:44:28

big tournament down there, Boo Williams, and

1:44:30

I drove those like seven hours each

1:44:32

way, and I just went, I like

1:44:34

made business cards of Kinko's, and I

1:44:36

just went and just networked and networked

1:44:38

network. And you know, I feel like,

1:44:40

you know, when that is your backbone

1:44:42

every single day, you owe it to

1:44:44

yourself, but most of all, you owe

1:44:46

it to your bosses who continued to

1:44:49

give you these great assignments to give

1:44:51

everybody ever the best you can every

1:44:53

single day. Now I do want to

1:44:55

because I feel like we're close share

1:44:57

something personal with you. Two things personal.

1:44:59

But um I switched recently I was

1:45:01

kind of pressured I had a little

1:45:03

crisis and I don't know if you

1:45:05

notice this when we were texting earlier

1:45:07

but it was probably I have I've

1:45:09

had dreams and I will admit this

1:45:11

to you guys probably I've had dreams

1:45:13

because like of how much my life

1:45:15

revolves around my phone and I need

1:45:17

it like the machine rolling. I've had

1:45:19

dreams that I've been at a pool

1:45:21

party. and I jump and do like

1:45:23

a cannonball and my phones on me.

1:45:25

And it's like nightmares and I wake

1:45:27

up and I'm like, I didn't do

1:45:29

that. So a couple of weeks ago,

1:45:31

you guys know I've been a droid

1:45:33

guy my entire life. Yeah. Like there's

1:45:35

like twice a year. There's like something

1:45:38

that happens where there's like something that

1:45:40

happens where there's like an iOS upgrade

1:45:42

and droid people can't text iPhones. And

1:45:44

you start to flip out so one

1:45:46

day I just ripped the band-aid off

1:45:48

and now I'm team blue bubbles Yeah,

1:45:50

I'm adjusting to it. Yeah, I'm adjusting

1:45:52

to it So that I thought was

1:45:54

a life alternate experience the day after

1:45:56

I switched to an iPhone was either

1:45:58

day or week after Yeah, and yeah,

1:46:00

and when they the countries talk about

1:46:02

the Roth scene text I bet they're

1:46:04

happier to get the text now. That's

1:46:06

a blue bubble That's what I'm saying.

1:46:08

So but then it get then get

1:46:10

this this this this was another thing

1:46:12

that happened So I and you guys

1:46:14

you guys know how sometimes like I'll

1:46:16

tweet in the spring It's like in

1:46:18

April or May like I hate you

1:46:20

pollen. Yeah, I've tweeted that in the

1:46:22

past Last year. I was having a

1:46:24

bad deal with allergies You know, I

1:46:27

just said to myself, should I get

1:46:29

allergy shots? And I went and investigated

1:46:31

with my local allergist and they said,

1:46:33

you can do 32 rounds of shots

1:46:35

and you should be 80% immune. And

1:46:37

I was like, I don't want to

1:46:39

get back from the final four when

1:46:41

everything's over and have to deal with

1:46:43

allergies. I'm sick of dealing with allergies.

1:46:45

So there's 32 rounds of shots to

1:46:47

be done with it. So I get

1:46:49

through 30 rounds of shots, okay? This

1:46:51

is like, maybe two weeks ago. I

1:46:53

started having this weird reaction, like I'm

1:46:55

Jack Nicholson and something's got to give.

1:46:57

I'm sitting on a stoop and I'm

1:46:59

sweating. I go back to the doctor's

1:47:01

office, I start throwing up, they give

1:47:03

me two shots of an epipen to

1:47:05

calm me down. And I just remember

1:47:07

like my life was flashing in front

1:47:09

of my eyes, but I said, I

1:47:11

remember I said to these people, I

1:47:13

thought it was crazy, I said, I'm

1:47:15

not going before March. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:47:18

smart. I can't. I said, if you

1:47:20

want to take me, take me on

1:47:22

April 10th. Don't take me now. Yeah,

1:47:24

we die in May. Exactly. Yeah, Dust,

1:47:26

another victim claimed by Dusty May. Correct.

1:47:28

Exactly. There was another part of the

1:47:30

article that I loved, and it talks

1:47:32

about your wife, and she said, when

1:47:34

it gets to March, he will literally

1:47:36

walk around our place and repeat, this

1:47:38

is March, this is March, I'm like,

1:47:40

I know it's March, just say it

1:47:42

in your head. Just say it in

1:47:44

your head. Probably 10 to 15, especially

1:47:46

when the TV's on and like you're

1:47:48

just soaking everything in and you see

1:47:50

close finishes, you see crazy upsets. I

1:47:52

mean, it's a part of the fabric

1:47:54

of college basketball. It's definitely a big

1:47:56

part of my life. And the thing

1:47:58

that's so humbling is like a takeaway

1:48:00

I've gone from that article in some

1:48:02

of a very prominent media reporter reached

1:48:04

out to me. It's like, I'd like

1:48:07

to do, you know, feature on your

1:48:09

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All right back to the bracket Midwest

1:48:37

that was great John Midwest last one.

1:48:39

Okay this is the region of toughness.

1:48:41

Okay think about guys the coaches. in

1:48:43

the scowling that is that is involved

1:48:45

in this region. Kelvin, Sampson, Houston, Rick

1:48:47

Barnes, Tennessee, Mick Cronin, UCLA, Brad Underwood,

1:48:49

at Illinois. This is a dynamite region.

1:48:51

I've got Houston, I've got Gonzaga beaten

1:48:53

Georgia, I've got McNeese, coached by Will

1:48:56

Wade. beating his alma mater Clemson in

1:48:58

the 12-5. Remember, Will Wade was a

1:49:00

student manager at Clemson before he got

1:49:02

in the coaching. That's my 12-5. I

1:49:04

got Purdue over High Point. I've got

1:49:06

Illinois over the Texas Xavier winner, Kentucky,

1:49:08

UCLA in Tennessee. Then we're going bottom.

1:49:10

I got Houston against Purdue, and then

1:49:12

I'm going to take Illinois. against Tennessee

1:49:14

in the Sweet 16 and I'm going

1:49:16

to take Illinois against Houston in the

1:49:18

elite eight and I got Houston going

1:49:20

on the final four so I got

1:49:22

Houston against Duke on one side Houston

1:49:24

comes out of the region to toughness

1:49:26

on the other side I've got Michigan

1:49:28

State in Florida and I got Houston

1:49:30

finally breaking through under Kelvin Samson and

1:49:32

winning the national championship. Calvin Samson again

1:49:34

I've said it before this is why

1:49:36

Houston basketball's nickname is no mercy. He

1:49:38

reminds me a lot. of the sensei

1:49:40

and karate kid John creece. You know,

1:49:42

with just, you know, remember when he

1:49:45

said strike first, strike hard, no mercy,

1:49:47

sir. That's what Calvin Sampson reminds me

1:49:49

of. He's like the Sam, he's a

1:49:51

much, you know, kinder man than, you

1:49:53

know, Martin Koval was in the karate

1:49:55

kid, but he has that same type

1:49:57

of fierce kind of presence. Does that

1:49:59

guy win? kid? He doesn't win

1:50:01

and if you remember at the start

1:50:03

of karate kid too he'd be his

1:50:05

knuckles bleed because he punches them through

1:50:08

a car when he gets in a

1:50:10

fight with Mr. Miyagi. Yeah that guy

1:50:12

rocks. So yeah you mentioned Will Wade

1:50:14

we were actually just talking about Will

1:50:16

Wade earlier today. Will Wade any chance

1:50:19

if you're Villanova any chance you're picking

1:50:21

up with the phone giving Will Way

1:50:23

to call? I don't think Villanova is the

1:50:25

school to give Will Way to call but

1:50:27

I will say this. And there's many

1:50:30

programs that are coached by them

1:50:32

now in the NCAA tournament. And

1:50:34

those programs are thriving. Yeah. Bruce

1:50:36

Beard at all miss. Rick Patino at

1:50:38

St. John's, Bruce Pearl at Auburn, Calvin

1:50:41

Sampson at Houston. The school

1:50:43

that hires Will Wade is going to be

1:50:45

the school that falls next in that

1:50:47

line. Yeah. Think about this. Here's a

1:50:49

couple of things on Will Wade I

1:50:51

was thinking about. I talked about it

1:50:53

tonight on our show. Will Wade is the only

1:50:56

coach in shock is smart to win an

1:50:58

NCAA tournament game at BCU. Will Wade won

1:51:00

the SEC regular season title at LSU and

1:51:02

will wait since he took the McNeese job

1:51:04

in two years is 57 and 10. I

1:51:06

know that things were very sloppy at LSU,

1:51:08

but a lot of those things are legal

1:51:10

right now. Right. So the school that hires

1:51:12

them is going to be on upward trajectory

1:51:14

moving forward and then I'm going to have

1:51:16

to come up with a new tagline for

1:51:18

him. Yeah, I mean all this stuff that

1:51:20

he got in trouble for is stuff that

1:51:22

is actually legal and it's an advantage if

1:51:24

your coach can do those things well. Right

1:51:26

now. Yeah, that guy. He's a star. Yeah.

1:51:28

Amir Khan is a star. Yeah. Yeah. Good

1:51:30

vibe from him. So you have Houston

1:51:33

over Illinois. You got Illinois over

1:51:35

Tennessee. Talk me through that one. You

1:51:37

know, I did on Thanksgiving Day,

1:51:39

you know, CBS Sports had a,

1:51:41

we have a Thanksgiving game, game

1:51:43

now after the NFL. Next year

1:51:46

it's going to be Arkansas and Duke

1:51:48

in Chicago, which maybe you guys can

1:51:50

go to. I don't know if you

1:51:52

want to do it on Thanksgiving.

1:51:55

But it's. did the game with Ian Eagle

1:51:57

and Bill Raftery, you know, in Kansas City,

1:51:59

and I... saw Illinois up close and when

1:52:01

everything is equal on a neutral court and

1:52:03

cat I know you know this because you

1:52:06

know the Big Ten so well Illinois has

1:52:08

final four talent when things are clicking with

1:52:10

the Akachonas with Eva Sich there's obviously

1:52:12

great role players and ancillary pieces around those

1:52:15

guys with Boswell Will Riley I talked to

1:52:17

Brad Underwood last week he loves the

1:52:19

way Will Riley has been playing you know

1:52:21

the last couple of weeks and this

1:52:23

is the thing too you got to like

1:52:25

when you're looking at Illinois Because

1:52:28

of Evasich's ability to stretch

1:52:30

things from the five spot, it's

1:52:32

very difficult, and this is what killed

1:52:34

Arkansas on that game on Thanksgiving, it's

1:52:36

very difficult to play a traditional five

1:52:39

man against them because they can extend

1:52:41

the defense so much with Evasich. He

1:52:43

reminds me a lot. This is a

1:52:46

throwback comparison. He reminds me a lot

1:52:48

of Ray Flafrens. Ooh, I like that,

1:52:50

Kansas. So much Ray Flafrens in Tomislav,

1:52:52

Evisage. Yeah, no, Illinois is, like, I

1:52:55

was saying when we were talking about

1:52:57

the bracket before you came on, I

1:52:59

want to see Illinois, Kentucky, because those

1:53:02

two teams, when they hit their ceiling,

1:53:04

it's incredible basketball, they have had

1:53:06

floors that we've seen as well,

1:53:08

and it's been bad. but both

1:53:10

those teams have insane firepower and

1:53:12

I agree Illinois is they're very

1:53:15

volatile but if it's good it's

1:53:17

great it's great and you bring

1:53:19

up a great point because a

1:53:21

potential Illinois Kentucky game in the

1:53:23

round of 32 would be like

1:53:25

a regional final but guys I've

1:53:27

always felt that the round of

1:53:29

32 is the most intriguing round of

1:53:31

the NCAA tournament because you

1:53:34

are going to get in some

1:53:36

cases the dreamer having a chance

1:53:38

to dream the dream for another

1:53:40

week, or you are going to

1:53:42

get a massive showdown of powerful

1:53:44

programs. Look, we could have in

1:53:46

the region of toughness, you could

1:53:48

have Houston, Gonzaga, Purdue, Kentucky, or

1:53:50

Texas, or Xavier against Kentucky, and

1:53:52

then UCLA against Tennessee. If we

1:53:54

saw any one of those matchups

1:53:57

in an elite or a final

1:53:59

board, probably... Yeah, yeah, you're right. I

1:54:01

mean, just the Houston and Zagel one

1:54:03

is crazy. That could be a second

1:54:05

round matchup. So can you give us

1:54:08

some names of guys that that we're

1:54:10

going to want to get to know

1:54:12

from orch? Like guys that have

1:54:14

the potential to take over this

1:54:16

tournament and become household names. How

1:54:18

deep do you want to go?

1:54:21

Do you want power conference names?

1:54:23

Do you want me to get really

1:54:25

in the weeds here? Let's just give

1:54:27

me like two names per bracket. from

1:54:29

New Mexico is one of the great

1:54:31

point guards in college basketball. That is

1:54:33

somebody you want to put on your

1:54:35

radar for sure. Ole Miss has a

1:54:38

couple of players, Sean Padula, a terrific

1:54:40

veteran point guard, a transit from Virginia

1:54:42

Tech. Also, John Pulekidis, I told you

1:54:44

from Yale. We go down to the

1:54:46

region of prestige right now. A couple

1:54:48

of guys again who are off the

1:54:50

radar, I'm trying to come up with.

1:54:52

Bennet Sterts at Drake. Who's kind

1:54:55

of the Mistro for them. Also, Neat

1:54:57

Clifford from Colorado State, who has been

1:54:59

part of this incredible surge by Colorado

1:55:01

State. He has been elites playing like

1:55:03

one of the top 15 or 20

1:55:05

players in the country over the last

1:55:08

couple of weeks. I will also point

1:55:10

out in the Yukon Oklahoma game, Jeremiah

1:55:12

Fiers, the freshman point guard for Oklahoma,

1:55:14

the brother of Michigan State's Jeremy Fiers,

1:55:16

is a name to watch. And then

1:55:18

as we looked right now in your

1:55:21

top right, the region of Fire Power.

1:55:23

I'm going to give you one

1:55:25

for Mississippi State Josh Hubbard,

1:55:27

an electrifying yard. Plus Oregon.

1:55:30

You've got Jackson Shelstad and

1:55:32

Nate Biddle. Max Shulga at

1:55:34

VCU. Ritchie Saunders at B.Y.U.

1:55:36

At St. Mary's, Augustus Marshall

1:55:38

Lones is the least talked

1:55:40

about back-to-back conference player the

1:55:42

year. We may have in

1:55:45

history. He's won the award

1:55:47

in the WCC in back-to-back

1:55:49

seasons. Ryan Emhard, we know

1:55:51

from Gonzaga. For Georgia, a

1:55:53

talented player, Asenoul who's

1:55:55

a good freshman. Ryan Conwell

1:55:58

at Xavier is like a

1:56:00

poor man's Michael Red. He will be

1:56:02

in the first four Wednesday night in

1:56:04

the Xavier, Texas game. And then I'm

1:56:06

gonna say, I mean, UCLA, I mean,

1:56:08

you don't really get in the weeds

1:56:10

here too much, but I mean, a

1:56:12

UCLA, Eric Daley and Tyler Bilido, I

1:56:14

would say, are two names there. Okay,

1:56:16

love it. All right, well, John, I

1:56:18

got one last question for you. This

1:56:21

is been awesome. We love having it

1:56:23

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take. Again, everyone tune in. John will

1:56:33

be Tuesday and Wednesday and Dayton, then

1:56:35

he's going up to Cleveland, we're gonna

1:56:37

see him on the broadcast, can't wait

1:56:39

for it. I saw you dropped a

1:56:41

new roastingism, and I had a question

1:56:44

about it. The new one is Todd

1:56:46

Golden is to Florida basketball, what Mark

1:56:48

Zuckerberg was to Facebook in the social

1:56:50

network. They both built monsters monsters. and

1:56:52

Golden's looks like it can win the

1:56:54

whole damn thing. You know, like, Mark

1:56:56

Zuckerberg's a real person. Social network is

1:56:58

his life. Right, I know, I know

1:57:00

that, but in terms of like, Todd

1:57:02

was always this guy and like, I'll

1:57:05

just, I talked about this with Bruce

1:57:07

Pearl on our show tonight. When Bruce

1:57:09

Pearl first got the Auburn job, you

1:57:11

know, I went down to a practice

1:57:13

and we went out to eat after

1:57:15

and like, Todd was this guy who

1:57:17

wasn't even like an assistant coach on

1:57:19

the staff, as like this prodigy and

1:57:21

he had this incredible mind for basketball

1:57:23

and he had these unique ways to

1:57:25

evaluate and he was always kind of

1:57:28

ahead of things with the analytics and

1:57:30

he used that you know he had

1:57:32

that team at San Francisco a couple

1:57:34

years ago that went to the tournament

1:57:36

and you know gotten that large bit

1:57:38

and now he's doing incredible things to

1:57:40

Florida and guys I want to say

1:57:42

this because Todd Golden I had my

1:57:44

top five for national coach of the

1:57:46

year and this is not to disparage

1:57:49

him at all as a coach but

1:57:51

obviously he's still so young. If Billy

1:57:53

Donovan was coaching this Florida team with

1:57:55

the way we're playing, Florida would be

1:57:57

universally viewed as the favorite to win

1:57:59

the next. championship and it wouldn't be

1:58:01

close but Todd knows he's got to

1:58:03

prove it in the NCAA tournament but

1:58:05

Florida is ripping through college basketball right

1:58:07

now like a chainsaw through butter. But

1:58:09

I think Big Cat's point still stands

1:58:12

though which is Mark Zuckerberg is he's

1:58:14

a person. He's a real person. Not

1:58:16

like outside of the movie. The movie

1:58:18

was about Mark Zuckerberg but you can

1:58:20

just say Mark Zuckerberg. Okay, I appreciate

1:58:22

the amendment, but you guys know part

1:58:24

of like what gives me balance is

1:58:26

when I get through the final foreign

1:58:28

things to a little quieter I love

1:58:30

having like a Pironi and a Bola

1:58:33

Terralleys and watching these old movies that

1:58:35

I've watched 15 to 20 times sometimes

1:58:37

more the social network is in that

1:58:39

rotation. Okay, yeah, but he is a

1:58:41

real person. What about the Rothschenism I

1:58:43

suggest? I know that you don't take

1:58:45

you don't take submissions for Rothschenisms, but

1:58:47

Danny Hurley, drinking drinking piss, that's a

1:58:49

really good one. Yeah,

1:58:51

I don't know man you said one

1:58:53

a couple of years ago like for

1:58:55

Wake Forest like run for us run

1:58:57

like we had to kind of put

1:59:00

that into the lead files You think

1:59:02

that's good? Yeah, it fits in with

1:59:04

your thing. It's like old movies Roth's

1:59:06

theism can't be forced. I know I

1:59:08

know I can't be forced Okay, well,

1:59:10

I know I can't be forced. I

1:59:12

have one last last question for you

1:59:14

John some people have accused you know

1:59:16

you're an insider you know you're an

1:59:18

insider you work on media you're in

1:59:20

media but you're in media but you're

1:59:22

in media but you're in media but

1:59:24

you're in media but you know you're

1:59:26

not you're in media but you're not

1:59:28

you're in media but you're in media

1:59:30

but you're not you're in media but

1:59:32

you know you're not you're in media

1:59:34

but you're in media but you're not

1:59:36

you're in media but you're in media

1:59:38

but you're in media but you're not

1:59:40

you're like you're in media but you're

1:59:42

a media but you're not you Can

1:59:44

you describe? Can you describe a flare

1:59:46

screen to us? Sure. Well, let's just

1:59:48

use Wisconsin as an example because that's

1:59:50

obviously, you know, some common ground for

1:59:52

us right here. So a flare screen

1:59:54

is this. Let's say we have three

1:59:56

players on the perimeter. Let's say John

1:59:58

Blackwell is on the point and on

2:00:00

the two wings on the right wing

2:00:02

is John Tanjan and the other side

2:00:04

is Max Klesmit. If Blackwell throws the

2:00:06

ball to the right wing, he is

2:00:08

then going to go to go to

2:00:10

the left to kind of drip to

2:00:13

kind of drip to kind of drip

2:00:15

to the corner to kind of drip

2:00:17

to the corner to the corner to

2:00:19

the corner to the corner to the

2:00:21

corner. on Blackwell's man and then Tanjay

2:00:23

would throw it over the top to

2:00:25

John Blackwell and get him a shot.

2:00:27

Now another thing is the guy who's

2:00:29

the screen there on that back screen.

2:00:31

is also a threat to roll to

2:00:33

the basket and get an easy layup

2:00:35

because the defense then might think that

2:00:37

the play is going over the top

2:00:39

to John Blackwell so that's a that's

2:00:41

the player screen I love it I

2:00:43

think got that exactly right John I

2:00:45

we love having yon and and like

2:00:47

I said everyone go read the story

2:00:49

because I can't say it enough like

2:00:51

you love and breathe hoops and you

2:00:53

are a great story in the fact

2:00:55

that like the world is cynical You

2:00:57

just worked your ass off and got

2:00:59

to this point and we're very happy

2:01:01

for you and this is the best

2:01:03

time of year. Yeah, it's the best

2:01:05

time of year. I appreciate you guys.

2:01:07

This is something I look forward to

2:01:09

every single year. And if I make

2:01:11

it to Chicago this summer, I hope

2:01:13

to see you guys. Yes. Also, you

2:01:15

know, you guys enjoy the tournament too

2:01:17

because cat, I'm telling you man, I

2:01:19

don't know if it can happen, but

2:01:21

Wisconsin has enough here to at least

2:01:23

get to the second weekend. I know

2:01:26

you live and die with that team

2:01:28

and they got the best off-guard in

2:01:30

America. Yeah, I'm very excited for the

2:01:32

tournament. I want to try to have

2:01:34

a run. Also, it sounds like I

2:01:36

might have to invite you over to

2:01:38

Thanksgiving. I mean, you might have to

2:01:40

just come to my house for Thanksgiving.

2:01:42

If I'm fortunate enough to get the

2:01:44

assignment again, but I mean, but you

2:01:46

know me, I have to I focus

2:01:48

on a game day like when I

2:01:50

have a game day assignment. Like, it's

2:01:52

like, you know, that's the only thing

2:01:54

that matters. So I can't unwind until

2:01:56

that happens. You don't have to unwind.

2:01:58

You don't have to unwind. You can

2:02:00

literally just come over and eat. You

2:02:02

don't have to talk to anyone. I'm

2:02:04

totally fine with that. I don't like

2:02:06

talking to anyone in my house on

2:02:08

things. But then you and I can

2:02:10

get in a little disagreement because I'm

2:02:12

going to want like feast week on

2:02:14

the TV and you're going to want

2:02:16

to watch the NFL. I got you.

2:02:18

Don't you worry? I love, I love,

2:02:20

I love, you guys know I love

2:02:22

New York more than anything. As you

2:02:24

guys know I used to watch, cocktail

2:02:26

Wall Street, the secret of my success

2:02:28

nonstop, but there's nothing like a great

2:02:30

long weekend in Chicago, especially in the

2:02:32

summer. Love Gibson, Italia. So come do

2:02:34

it! Great portion sizes. Come do it.

2:02:36

Let's get it, let's live it up.

2:02:39

We were going to take a long

2:02:41

weekend with the baby last summer and

2:02:43

we didn't think she was ready for

2:02:45

it, but maybe this summer she will

2:02:47

be. We love that architecture tour too.

2:02:49

That's big time. It's like Vince Vaughn

2:02:51

and the breakup. Yeah, the boat tour

2:02:53

is great. But you don't eat pizza

2:02:55

when you're out here. I will not

2:02:57

waste calories on pizza outside of the

2:02:59

Eastern Times. Yes, yes. We know that

2:03:01

rule. Did you watch any football this

2:03:03

year? We had a Super Bowl a

2:03:05

little bit. even though you know just

2:03:07

because I couldn't take the game and

2:03:09

my wife came over and said we

2:03:11

have an apartment full of people you

2:03:13

can't sleep and I said you're right

2:03:15

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Oh, Breaking Moose! We're actually cheating because

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we're adding this at the end of

2:05:17

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2:05:19

Oldie. Breaking Moose, Hank? Jamar Chase, T.

2:05:21

Higgins. Paid whoa per by who the

2:05:23

Cincinnati Bangles. That's the important part. Yeah,

2:05:25

so Jamar four years 161 million 112

2:05:27

mil guaranteed He is now the highest

2:05:29

paid non-quarter back in NFL history. He

2:05:31

didn't give him seven days He got

2:05:33

the crown and then T Higgins got

2:05:35

four years two years guaranteed worth up

2:05:37

to 115 million. I don't know what

2:05:39

the guaranteed money is on that But

2:05:41

he is now the highest paid wide

2:05:43

receiver to well in NFL history I

2:05:45

am very happy for Bengal's fans. I'm

2:05:47

very happy for Joe Burrow. This is

2:05:49

awesome because Bengal's fans I think were

2:05:51

very nervous. about this entire off season

2:05:53

will the Bengals be cheap what's gonna

2:05:55

happen in the future of their franchise

2:05:57

their offense those two guys are really

2:05:59

fucking good at football and they're both

2:06:01

still young relatively young and you have

2:06:03

Joe Burrow and you basically are saying

2:06:05

you know Yeah, they got to make

2:06:07

some right decisions on defense and make

2:06:09

some good picks, but they're always going

2:06:11

to be in the mix with those

2:06:13

three guys. Yeah, they're saying, let's lean

2:06:15

into what we do really well. That's

2:06:18

offense. Our offense is fucking awesome. Let's

2:06:20

just do more of that. Let's just

2:06:22

do more of that. And if you're

2:06:24

a fan, that's just do more of

2:06:26

that. And if you're a fan, that's

2:06:28

exactly what you're a fan. That's exactly

2:06:30

what you're a good. Trey Hendrickson will

2:06:32

definitely get traded yes on point right

2:06:34

yes yes i would say so but

2:06:36

good for the bangles good for bangles

2:06:38

fans you basically guaranteed the next three

2:06:40

to four years are gonna be fun

2:06:42

yeah i don't know if they're gonna

2:06:44

win but they're gonna win but they're

2:06:46

gonna be fun yeah i don't know

2:06:48

if they're gonna win but they're gonna

2:06:50

be fun yeah you're gonna be great

2:06:52

ones have always been fun when those

2:06:54

three guys are on the field so

2:06:56

good job thanks for the breaking moves

2:06:58

Hank no Is not a video game?

2:07:00

So Max saying it's a video game

2:07:02

you idiot. He's the idiot. I memory

2:07:04

hold this whole conversation because I really

2:07:06

don't like This is from quakes. It's

2:07:08

well, I mean, it's it's it's it's

2:07:10

it's it's it might be the worst

2:07:12

podcasting to have a extended debate about

2:07:14

a video that people are listening can't

2:07:16

see. It's new segment. Is this motherfucker

2:07:18

real? When you're thinking about it? When

2:07:20

you're thinking about it. So everyone's gonna

2:07:22

have to go look for the video.

2:07:24

I'm thinking about the fans Hank Personally,

2:07:26

I'd be I mean I bring it

2:07:28

up when we end this when we

2:07:31

end recording right now Did bring it

2:07:33

up when we're not right now when

2:07:35

we end recorded just to get this

2:07:37

conversation going again when we end recording

2:07:39

I am 100% in on just hanging

2:07:41

out with the boys and continue in

2:07:43

this debate. Cool. Yeah. All right, so

2:07:45

let's do that. So now the podcast

2:07:47

listeners can be like finally. Well, that's

2:07:49

not good for the listeners either. Now

2:07:51

they're like, I wonder if they talked

2:07:53

about something cool with the video. No,

2:07:55

we're gonna just talk about the video.

2:07:57

It's gonna be worse. We're gonna have

2:07:59

a worse conversation than we did on

2:08:01

the air. All right, let's kick it

2:08:03

to ourselves with Oldie. Okay, time for

2:08:05

numbers, and we're gonna say goodbye to

2:08:07

Oldie for now, Oldie. How was how

2:08:09

is your weekend, how is your weekend

2:08:11

watching Hoop's with us with us. Four

2:08:13

days of you just getting blitzed with

2:08:15

college hoops. Electric, like fire. I was

2:08:17

unbelievable from the second I showed up

2:08:19

while the airplane was another story, but

2:08:21

I mean, once I arrived, it was,

2:08:23

it was on. Don Quixong, we were

2:08:25

ready to rumble in the jungle. Heaters,

2:08:27

good on Thursday, heater on Friday, good,

2:08:29

Saturday good, and Sunday. You know my

2:08:31

number's four, and it was my fourth

2:08:33

day here. Yeah, phenomenal. Oh, finished hard.

2:08:35

Yeah, finished hard and hot. So you

2:08:37

just kept on winning. Basically, it's almost

2:08:39

like, what's his name? They're piss and

2:08:41

excellence, right? Wake up in the morning,

2:08:44

piss excellence. Yeah. What did you think

2:08:46

about brackets? Diet is sick. Yeah, so

2:08:48

it's sickening. So Oldie had never seen

2:08:50

a live bracket reveal. Like I've seen

2:08:52

a bracket in Canada, like, and once

2:08:54

it comes out, but like. 48 72

2:08:56

hours after the fact right by the

2:08:58

time it gets up north. Yeah, but

2:09:00

I mean to see it live to

2:09:02

see teams fired up sitting waiting is

2:09:04

there's squad gonna be the squad and

2:09:06

all of a sudden boom it's their

2:09:08

squad and everyone's fired up. Yeah, give

2:09:10

us a couple Cinderella's. Uh, Cinderella's. Well,

2:09:12

St. John's not a Cinderella. No, used

2:09:14

to be. I got to go my

2:09:16

boys. I got it. We got to

2:09:18

go back to Akron. Zips, Zips. Zips.

2:09:20

Zips. Zips. Unbelievable. Who else we banging

2:09:22

with on the west side region? I'm

2:09:24

trying to remember. There's so many teams.

2:09:26

It's trying to hard to track. Yeah,

2:09:28

I think it's like 300 and I

2:09:30

don't know 56 and just D1 and

2:09:32

then we got the other unranked schools

2:09:34

that still make it which is still

2:09:36

incredible. Yeah. Florida. Florida's one come on

2:09:38

oldy orange one. Yeah, uh, Badgers is

2:09:40

not a Cinderella story. No, they should

2:09:42

be even higher for some reason. I

2:09:44

don't understand, but they that's that's all

2:09:46

politics stuff. That's behind this. Yeah, we

2:09:48

triggered out after. Yeah, who else is

2:09:50

out there is shanty? What was the

2:09:52

one team there? Or Norfolk, Norfolk, Norfolk,

2:09:54

you like Norfolk. Yeah, okay. I like

2:09:57

them. I watched them play a couple

2:09:59

games. Pretty much a home game. I

2:10:01

think they're playing Raleigh, right? Max is

2:10:03

trying to find a bracket right now.

2:10:05

And he can't, all he's doing is

2:10:07

looking up memes and streets where it's

2:10:09

like, there we go. He's giving me

2:10:11

empty brackies, he's giving me, empty brackies,

2:10:13

and I'm just like, okay, final four

2:10:15

from 20. I got you right now,

2:10:17

right here. He's got, we're back in,

2:10:19

we're back in. Oldie, what was your

2:10:21

takeaway from just the gambling game, you

2:10:23

spent a lot of, you spent a

2:10:25

lot of time, A lot of inside

2:10:27

jokes. At some points, it's just like,

2:10:29

as I'm right now, I get speechless

2:10:31

at some points, it's crazy. Yeah, it's

2:10:33

incredibly amazing. Guy knows every coach in

2:10:35

America. The guy literally knows every coach,

2:10:37

and if he doesn't know the coach,

2:10:39

he's running straight goods, practice facility. Yeah.

2:10:41

If your guys can't get into a

2:10:43

barn because it's so big, call Rico,

2:10:45

one shot, one dial, you got him,

2:10:47

boom, he's on it. You won't even

2:10:49

miss the call. He won't even miss

2:10:51

the call. Rico beat Wisconsin last year.

2:10:53

Yeah, he got Jamie the practice facility.

2:10:55

Yeah, he did. You might want to

2:10:57

also keep an eye on the electricity

2:10:59

he's been punishing through. That phone is

2:11:01

constantly charged. What's the most powerful phone

2:11:03

on these? It is. That's a huge

2:11:05

phone. I'm surprised. That's a huge phone.

2:11:07

I'm surprised you're not as secure. I'm

2:11:10

surprised you're not to secure like a

2:11:12

like a beamer around it like whomping

2:11:14

kind of. I don't know what you're

2:11:16

talking about, but I like, but I

2:11:18

like it's just so powerful. It's just

2:11:20

so powerful. It has like a raise

2:11:22

off, like a raise off, like a

2:11:24

raise off, like a raise off, like

2:11:26

a raise off, like a raise off,

2:11:28

like a raise off, like a raise

2:11:30

off, like a raise off, like a

2:11:32

raise off, like a raise off, like

2:11:34

a raise off, like a raise off,

2:11:36

like a raise off, like a raise

2:11:38

off, like a raise off, like a

2:11:40

raise off, like a raise off, All

2:11:42

right, so great trip oldie. We'll see

2:11:44

it. We'll see it in the future

2:11:46

We we we will maybe back for

2:11:48

some hockey playoffs. So a couple months

2:11:50

from now or a month and a

2:11:52

half from now. But yeah, it's great

2:11:54

having you around. You're great energy on

2:11:56

the streams. I appreciate it. I appreciate

2:11:58

it. It's live. Everyone's a beauty in

2:12:00

there. Everyone's bumping and grinding. They got

2:12:02

tickets going, winning tickets, losing tickets. It

2:12:04

doesn't matter. Yeah. And if you're not

2:12:06

even for that team, just be the

2:12:08

team. Be the team. If you're not

2:12:10

for that team, be the team. Be

2:12:12

there. He was just like, I'm doing

2:12:14

this for Big T. Oh yeah, I'm

2:12:16

gonna ride with him. I rode with

2:12:18

Big T the whole Choo-choo train the

2:12:21

whole way there. In about last seven

2:12:23

minutes, I had a Florida ticket. Yeah.

2:12:25

It connected though. It connected. Yeah. Great

2:12:27

run by the Vols. Great run. Good

2:12:29

work. Good team atmosphere, but Gator's chomped

2:12:31

and through. Great run. Better. way better

2:12:33

bad than the run. Also great job

2:12:35

I mean you just like we would

2:12:37

leave basically every day we come in

2:12:39

watch basketball day leave at like 10

2:12:41

o'clock 11 o'clock and then I'd wake

2:12:43

up the next morning and Oldie was

2:12:45

just everywhere in Chicago he was hitting

2:12:47

he was hitting he was doing BP

2:12:49

and it's sluggers last night it won

2:12:51

in the morning walking around Fulton market

2:12:53

you had a great time everywhere I

2:12:55

was on the strip I was here

2:12:57

I was there I was here Friday

2:12:59

I want to apologize though I was

2:13:01

late though I was a second in

2:13:03

the second in the office. Oh, who

2:13:05

was your first? Uh, Luke. Oh, yeah.

2:13:07

And I knocked on the door and

2:13:09

I was excited and I didn't see

2:13:11

anyone. He goes, well, what are you

2:13:13

doing here? I said, back to the

2:13:15

grind with the boys. What do you

2:13:17

mean? Am I doing here? Like, it's

2:13:19

got time. Did it's go time? Do

2:13:21

you? Do you? Yeah. And it's go

2:13:23

time. Do you? Yeah. And then. And

2:13:25

he goes, how would I have a

2:13:27

card? Like, I don't know. 914 or

2:13:29

9 something. On a Saturday, this is

2:13:31

Saturday. Oh, this is the Saturday. Yeah,

2:13:34

no one was here till noon. But

2:13:36

you're here at 914. And he's like,

2:13:38

the show doesn't start to like 12

2:13:40

or 1 the stream. And I'm like,

2:13:42

I don't care about the stream of

2:13:44

the show right now. I'm here for

2:13:46

the work. Let's go. Yeah. So I

2:13:48

went and started filling up the waters,

2:13:50

you know, cleaned it up, and that

2:13:52

was it. Bada Boon Bada Bing, we're

2:13:54

back at it. Love it. And then

2:13:56

everyone showed up. Thanks for coming to

2:13:58

you. Yeah. Yeah, it was, it was,

2:14:00

he was filling up the waters every

2:14:02

single time I turned around. So I

2:14:04

appreciate that oldie. And throwing out trash

2:14:06

with PFT. Yeah, that was that was

2:14:08

all time. We were working on the

2:14:10

El Camino. Yeah, out in the garage

2:14:12

here. We hear a beeping noise. The

2:14:14

garage door raises up. It's a dump

2:14:16

truck back and in immediately old he

2:14:18

goes, hang on, I'll be right back.

2:14:20

He runs over the dumpster, it starts

2:14:22

loading the truck, he goes, hang on,

2:14:24

I'll be right back, he runs over

2:14:26

the dumpster, it starts loading the dumpster,

2:14:28

it starts loading the truck, and it's

2:14:30

like, it's like, And that was cool

2:14:32

with it. I ran the controls. I

2:14:34

ran the controls. He tried to come

2:14:36

over and show me. This is how

2:14:38

you do it. But he's taking it

2:14:40

easy. I got seniority, Paul. How many

2:14:42

years you got in, dude? I want

2:14:44

to tell him, but he was a

2:14:47

good guy. He's out there bumping and

2:14:49

grinding with the boys. You got a

2:14:51

lot of. You got a lot of

2:14:53

it. He's out there bumping and grinding

2:14:55

with the boys. You got a lot.

2:14:57

So you got a lot of. So

2:14:59

you got a lot of it. So

2:15:01

you got a lot of. You got

2:15:03

a lot of. So he. You got

2:15:05

a lot of. You got a. He's

2:15:07

a lot of. He's out there bumping.

2:15:09

He's out there bumping. He's out there

2:15:11

bumping. He's out there bumping. He's out

2:15:13

there bumping. He's out there bumping. He's

2:15:15

out there bumping and grinding. He's out

2:15:17

there bumping and grinding. He's out there

2:15:19

bumping It's no potter, but, but, but,

2:15:21

but, but, but, but, but, nothing crazy

2:15:23

like that snow. It's all good. I

2:15:25

think it's gonna be a good year

2:15:27

for the Elkhovina old. Oh, it's gonna

2:15:29

be smooth. Once that sunshine come coming

2:15:31

out. Look out. Highway, 190. Here we

2:15:33

come. No, no, no highways. Can't take

2:15:35

it on the highway. No, no highways.

2:15:37

Can't take it on the highway. Can't

2:15:39

take it on the highway. Can't take

2:15:41

it on the highway. Can't take it

2:15:43

on the highway. Can't take it. Can't

2:15:45

take it on the highway. Can't take

2:15:47

it on the highway. Can't take it.

2:15:49

Can't take it. Can't take it on

2:15:51

the highway. Can't take it. Can't take

2:15:53

it on the highway. Can't take it.

2:15:55

Can't take it. Can't take it. Can't

2:15:57

take it on the highway. Can't take

2:16:00

it on the highway. You. You. You.

2:16:02

You. Can't take it. All right, go

2:16:04

ahead memes you get it. No memes

2:16:06

you have it you have it say

2:16:08

take it I'll take 84 13 1

2:16:10

I got a go I already went

2:16:12

my four banger I had to hit

2:16:14

the nash or six one I got

2:16:16

to go back to the root

2:16:18

stand up on the

2:16:20

hang side six up

2:16:22

nice back to

2:16:24

the the hang side six nine. Oh

2:16:26

nice back to the roots 99 poke

2:16:28

Jack 52 boy Jack 21 oh

2:18:31

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