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is yours today is Monday March 17th
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and we have Our brackets right here
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got a little little ink under my
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fingernails big cat you hear this this
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is a real life in-person bracket I
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don't do my shit online I hold
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it in my hands hell yes in
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a paper like a man always this
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is horoscopes for guys this is horoscopes
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for guys this is the best it's
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the best for the best it's the
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best it's gonna sleep with it underneath
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my pillow tonight I'm gonna fuck it
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I wasn't gonna fuck it but now
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I'm gonna fuck my bracket now I
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sporting event of the year just roll
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it up like this is yeah just
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roll it up and crank it yeah
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I think I think that oh Max
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is going through the hole oh you
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make a hole in your bracket you're
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fucking it that way you could I
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was thinking of just going like this
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you could also roll it up and
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then the bracket could fuck you true
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maybe just get a hold Maybe make
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a paper mache doll out of it. Yeah.
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Okay. I'm into that. I'm in for
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that. But you know what I'm saying?
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I think that bracket reveal is the
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best sporting event that does not
4:11
actually contain sports of the year.
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Oh, it's incredible. And it's just
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the, you know, you spend. I think
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I counted it was like 50 hours of
4:20
basketball I've watched in the last five days
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and my eyes hurt and like every morning
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I wake up and I'm like what just
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happened I feel I got hit by a
4:28
truck but then you end it all with
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the bracket and it's all like oh that
4:33
was worth it because we just we just
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did all that and now we have a
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bracket and it feels great and it's it's
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one of my favorite weeks and it's uh
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I know some people don't like the first
4:43
four, but I actually love it because they're
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like at this point right now I wish
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there was a college basketball game
4:49
on right this second, and we only
4:51
have to wait till Tuesday. But let's
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talk about the bracket, let's first
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talk about who got screwed, and that
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would be West Virginia and Indiana, because
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UNC got into the tournament with
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one quad, one win, and Buba
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Cunningham, who is part of the
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selection committee committee, is also the AD
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at UNC. He now he said that
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he recused himself from all
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conversations. What I would say to
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that is That doesn't fucking matter
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at all because you spend an
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entire weekend hanging out with
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this people and then you're
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like hey guys We're gonna talk about
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UNC. I'm gonna go take a piss
5:29
you guys talk about UNC But come
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on we're boys, right? It's me Bubba.
5:34
Yeah, we're boys. And then let's say
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he doesn't say hey. Come on guys.
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Give me a solid Everyone
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in that room has to decide on UNC
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and then have him come back in the
5:44
room and he's gonna be like so How
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we look at it? Yeah, then you tell
5:48
him your decision Bob has to look at
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you be like what the hell? Yeah, God
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damn I'll go and do that to Bubba
5:54
He also just he went on CBS and
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ESPN after and just used I don't know
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who his human shield was next to him,
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but they asked him a question about
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UNC, and he brought another guy who's
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from the committee, and he
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immediately said, well, I wasn't allowed
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to talk about UNC, so I'm
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just gonna have to defer to
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him. Yeah, it just made him
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answer all the hard questions. He's
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gonna answer all the hard questions.
6:19
He's gonna answer all the hard
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questions. He's gonna answer all the
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UNC related topics that you have
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for me. This is classic belli
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check. That's a that I do
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that game with my kids Yeah, your kids
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are small Actually the age
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difference is less between me and my
6:36
kids your kids are don't weigh a
6:38
lot But I was like that's the
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airplane game. I play with my kids.
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I'm not going to make fun of
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coach Belle check for doing that.
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Congrats Bill? She wearing headphones?
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In this yeah, so they're not
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talking or just listen to like
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airplane noises. Okay, either way, back,
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back to back, UNC got in.
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So here's a stat that I
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looked up, because the bracket matrix,
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they track everything, they compile everybody,
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all the amateur bracketologists out there,
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which is such a funny science
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to study. They have 111 bracketologists,
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and they compile all their results.
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Out of those 111, 27 of the 111
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had UNC in the bracket. And 111
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out of 111 bracketologists had West
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Virginia. Yes. And UNC got it.
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They got screwed. I think they
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were one in 12 and quad
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one. Yeah. They beat UCLA. Listen,
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the committee and we can
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ask John Rothstein, the committee,
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it's very clear they stopped
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working on Friday night. Maybe
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that's why Lanardi's been sleeping
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because it makes no sense that UNC
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is in this tournament. makes
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no sense that Michigan got a five.
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It makes no sense that Louisville got
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an eight. Louisville got an eight. It makes no
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sense that they put Wisconsin in Denver
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in four days after in the third
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game total in the tournament. Yeah, they're
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playing it like one. in the afternoon.
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I have a question for a big cat.
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Why does the Big Ten insist on having
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their championship game as late as possible? I
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don't think it's the Big Ten. I think
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it's CBS. Or they ask them to? So
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they have a lead in for the... I think
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it's the TV. The TV networks dictate that.
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Because it's so late that the committee is
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forced to ignore the results of the Big
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Ten championship. But that CBS. the bracket reveal
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and they have rights to the big 10
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yeah so I'm sure the big 10 would
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like to be like hey can we play
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this game on Saturday and CBA is like
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no we need this right before so I
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think I think Louisville finished the season 20
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and 2 yeah they were 14th in the
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AP and they were 23rd in the net
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and they got an 8c yeah they got
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a little me this also Gonzaga is
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an 8c and they are a top
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10 Ken Palm team yeah Houston would
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potentially have to match up against them
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in the second round, which would be
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a very tough matchup, especially for, I
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think Houston, was Houston technically the second
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one seed? I have the full seed
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list. Hold on, let me find it,
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because I always love going through the
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seed list. I know Wisconsin was
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the fourth, three in Michigan was the
9:09
first fifth, five seed. So, but it
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didn't. like produce shouldn't have been a
9:13
four Michigan should have been the four
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all right here it is you have
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it is Houston oh Houston is a
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third one seat okay that actually makes
9:21
sense because Duke is an absolute wagon
9:24
we can talk about them in a
9:26
second either way there's some weird things
9:28
that they made like even I believe
9:30
Colorado State is a 12 seed that's
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a three and a half point favorite
9:34
yep over Memphis the five seed so and
9:36
I know it's not off betting lines but it's
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like this committee Outside of the UNC, I think
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did a good job, except for the fact that
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some of the seedings make absolutely no sense. Yeah,
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I think this year, there weren't as many
9:47
teams that are pissed off. Like obviously if you're
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Indiana, if you're West Virginia especially, you have every
9:51
right to be super pissed. But there weren't
9:53
a lot of bid stealers this year. Right. But
9:56
West Virginia did get screwed. They got
9:58
fucked. West Virginia got absolutely screwed. Okay,
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well yeah, so yeah, I mean, Houston
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might have to play without Juan Roberts
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against the top 10 Ken Palm team.
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I don't understand that. Gonzaga feels like
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it should have been a higher than
10:11
an eight seed. And Grand Canyon women's
10:13
team got left off, total snub. Why
10:15
did you, well, no, they made the
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tournament. Of this one. Oh, this one.
10:19
Yeah. Why did you bring them up?
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I just thought that was a snub.
10:24
You said something in the cave too,
10:26
you're like I love their women's program.
10:28
Why? Yeah, they got a great program.
10:30
Why? Because their head coach is very
10:32
hot. No, no, no. So put it
10:35
on the bonklist. Put it on the
10:37
bonklist. She's a fantastic coach. Yeah. That's,
10:39
that's, that's why. What's her name? Her
10:41
name, yeah, Coach, I have respect right
10:43
part, Coach. Coach. Okay, how do we
10:45
want to, how do we want to
10:48
break down the bracket? Where do we
10:50
want to start? I just want to
10:52
go region by region. Let's go region
10:54
by region. And I think that there
10:56
should be a uniform, I'd say like
10:58
90% of the brackets are in the
11:01
same format, but then you get some
11:03
websites to try to get cute with
11:05
it and they mix things around. Yeah.
11:07
So just go by region. I agree.
11:09
All right, so South region, top left.
11:11
Yep, top left. Auburn, the one overall
11:14
seed, another thing that made no sense,
11:16
not only the Louisville being an eight
11:18
seed, but if Louisville wins their first
11:20
game, which I actually kind of like
11:22
them to win that game because I
11:24
think Chuck Eheburn's going to put Stephen
11:27
Ashworth in a torture chamber, they're going
11:29
to be playing in Kentucky. This game
11:31
is in Lexington. Auburn's gonna have to
11:33
play a road game in the second
11:35
round as the number one overall seed.
11:37
Yeah, it's one of those things where
11:40
Louisville got fucked over by having a
11:42
bad seed. So they have to play
11:44
Creighton in the first round, which sucks
11:46
for them. But also they get what
11:48
would be two home games. Speaking of
11:50
which Creighton and Yukon, a little doot-to-do
11:53
on Saturday night. That was... That felt
11:55
like a situation that Yukon fans didn't
11:57
fully realize that when you're on the
11:59
top of the block for as long
12:01
as they've been people hate you and
12:03
they just gotta eat, you just gotta
12:06
eat it. And I'm okay with them,
12:08
like throwing home a slam dunk at
12:10
the end of it, hanging on the
12:12
room, celebrating a little bit. Yeah. I
12:14
don't think it's that fucked up. Well,
12:17
and they'll say, and Danny Hurley, who
12:19
we love, and we'll defend Danny Hurley,
12:21
but Danny Hurley, but Danny Hurley, does,
12:23
part of what makes Danny Hurley great,
12:25
is, If you're wired like that, where
12:27
you're yelling at fans as you beat
12:30
Creighton a month ago, when the other
12:32
team has a chance to rub it
12:34
in your face, they're gonna do it.
12:36
Yeah. Like that's just how it works.
12:38
So if you're a Yukon fan, I
12:40
know you can get in arguments with
12:43
Creighton, but you should just say, guess
12:45
what? Yeah, we kind of deserve, we've
12:47
been on the top for so long,
12:49
and we've been killing everyone. Yeah, it's
12:51
gonna it's it's gonna turn every now
12:53
and then. I'm okay with it. Fair
12:56
fair play you win the big east
12:58
you celebrate with a dunk at the
13:00
end That's fine. They were trying to
13:02
make the point that some fans were
13:04
trying to make the point that you
13:06
can never like you know when When
13:09
when Danny Hurley son would get in
13:11
Andrew early would get in games He
13:13
would dribble it out and he would
13:15
yell them not to shoot. Yeah, those
13:17
were also like 20 point games And
13:19
I don't think you can does like
13:22
run it up in that in that
13:24
in that scenario If you're the best
13:26
team for two years running and you
13:28
just demolish everyone and you have a
13:30
coach like Danny Hurley, the minute it
13:32
turns, people are going to take their
13:35
shots. I'm okay with it. Max is
13:37
a big East guy, you think that's
13:39
fair play? Yeah, I think that was
13:41
obvious, an obvious retaliation to Danny Hurley
13:43
doing the rings to the Creighton student
13:45
section on his way out of winning.
13:48
Right, and people like, well that's not
13:50
the players, but it is, it's an
13:52
extension of the players. I wouldn't take
13:54
back Danny Hurley doing that to Creighton
13:56
fans because that's what makes Danny Hurley
13:58
wired that way to win two national
14:01
titles. So it's like fair play all
14:03
around in my in my men. You
14:05
just have to if you're. You're a
14:07
Yukon fan, you just have to accept
14:09
it and be like, yeah, we lost
14:11
this one. Tough shit. We got dunked
14:14
on. If you're the type of fan
14:16
that gets online and says stay classy
14:18
after getting beat by somebody. You've lost.
14:20
You lost, you lost that argument already.
14:22
You've lost. And there's probably a bunch
14:25
of people that did the stay classy
14:27
to Danny Hurley from Creighton that are
14:29
now getting stay classied by Yukon. And
14:31
you're all losers. Big time. All right,
14:33
so that was Creighton also has never
14:35
won a big east title I feel
14:38
like they've been to every single every
14:40
year They go to the final and
14:42
they lose I like Louisville in that
14:44
game. I do too. I got them
14:46
moving forward then we have the the
14:48
probably probably going to be the number
14:51
one 12 5 upset that everyone's gonna
14:53
pick U.S.C. San Diego, who's been awesome,
14:55
who could have been an at-large team
14:57
if they failed to win the Big
14:59
West, which they did on Saturday night,
15:01
playing against Michigan. I think they're only
15:04
three and a half point underdogs. The
15:06
Tritons are fun though. They're a top
15:08
60 team in offense and defense on
15:10
Ken Palm. They're really, really good. They
15:12
got a New Zealander who love, he
15:14
would love PFT. Tate Jones. He's he's
15:17
he's sick. That's his last name. It's
15:19
a hyphenated last night Jones. I don't
15:21
know how to say his first name.
15:23
It's a it's a lot. Anawana weena.
15:25
Anawena tight Jones. Yeah, Anawana weena tight
15:27
Jones, but I watch that whole game
15:30
on Saturday night. He's good. So that's
15:32
that whole game on Saturday night. He's
15:34
good. So that's that's the pick that
15:36
everyone's gonna make. He was like our
15:38
team needs a reset. They got their
15:40
reset. and they won the big 10
15:43
tournament and they looked really good doing
15:45
it so maybe they've turned the corner
15:47
and gotten that reset they needed and
15:49
also they have two seven footers which
15:51
always scares me when you go up
15:53
two seven footers against a smaller team
15:56
if you look at San Diego starting
15:58
lineup it's all six four six five
16:00
i think they got one guy who's
16:02
six eight and they don't really their
16:04
their pace isn't big so if they
16:06
can if they can force turnovers but
16:09
Michigan the way they were playing against
16:11
Wisconsin that's granted also like at the
16:13
end of the Big Ten tournament run
16:15
where every team's tired the shots aren't
16:17
going in it was like every shot
16:19
it was a horrendous game to watch
16:22
well yeah but it smoked out the
16:24
haters who think that's what Wisconsin how
16:26
Wisconsin how it was not a but
16:28
it smoked out the haters who think
16:30
that's what Wisconsin how Wisconsin plays now
16:33
yeah it was not a fun game
16:35
but it was not a fun game
16:37
but this goes back to Michigan state
16:39
and and played way way way better
16:41
coming out of it I also kind
16:43
of like Yale is over text A&M.
16:46
Yale's a good team. I feel like
16:48
Yale also just, that's just a Yale
16:50
does it every year kind of guy.
16:52
Remember the big sweater guy? Yeah, yeah,
16:54
it was pretty funny. Buzz is gonna
16:56
be dressed up like a guy from
16:59
Yale. He wears like nine-piece suits. Yeah.
17:01
He's gonna be sweating his balls off,
17:03
it's gonna be great. I feel like
17:05
Buzz though, he might dress up like
17:07
a guy from Yale in the 1920s.
17:09
Yeah, like a robber baron. Yeah, that
17:12
contributes a significant amount to the Yale
17:14
and Dow. He sweats too much to
17:16
be a Yale guy. Yeah, Yale guys
17:18
don't sweat. And there's never been a
17:20
guy from a Yale named Buzz. No.
17:22
And then we got Olmas versus San
17:25
Diego State and UNC, which UNC, we've
17:27
already discussed. Now you know what's going
17:29
to happen. You know, get to the
17:31
Sweet 16 every year. Yeah, it's going
17:33
to be done. After everyone complained it's
17:35
going to be them Louisville is going
17:38
to lose and in the first round
17:40
and then you and C is going
17:42
to make it. Yeah Also Iowa State
17:44
great move by TJ Otselberger. He basically
17:46
just held out pretty big injury until
17:48
after the selection committee Because they can
17:51
ding you for that they can absolutely
17:53
ding you for that and after everything
17:55
was decided he was just like oh
17:57
yeah I forgot to mention one of
17:59
our best players is out my bad.
18:01
Thanks for the three seed See you
18:04
guys there. Yeah, we'll take it. We'll
18:06
run. Yeah, we're good. Max and I
18:08
were talking earlier about Villanova. and then
18:10
if them firing Cal Neptune would have
18:12
actually made it more likely for Villanova
18:14
to make the tournament. Oh. Yeah, no,
18:17
that would have been the funniest thing
18:19
ever. If just somehow they messed up
18:21
and we're like, you know what, a
18:23
Kyle Neptuneless Villanova team should. Should be,
18:25
yeah, would be a dangerous team. I
18:28
kind of like that idea. We also
18:30
have New Mexico versus Marquette. That's gonna
18:32
be a fun game. Yeah. That's gonna
18:34
be a lot of points. Cam Jones
18:36
is awesome New Mexico runs Richard Patino
18:38
Richard Patino Shaka Smart and Michigan State
18:41
Bryant at the bottom I I actually
18:43
like this region a lot for Michigan
18:45
State because Auburn has not been playing
18:47
its best ball and Michigan State felt
18:49
like on Saturday when Wisconsin beat him
18:51
like that was the reset they kind
18:54
of needed where they had been running
18:56
so hot and it was a perfect
18:58
time for Izo to be like all
19:00
right guys were not you know a
19:02
perfect team. Let's get ready for the
19:04
tournament. Yeah, a good loss. I have
19:07
them. I have Michigan State winning this
19:09
bracket. Yeah, I do too. Hank any
19:11
thoughts. I like UNC to make a
19:13
run. What's your mentals at right now?
19:15
My mentals are we're stringing it together?
19:17
For why? St. Patrick's Day. Give people
19:20
because I don't want you to I
19:22
don't want the AWL to be like,
19:24
Hank said five words. I actually said
19:26
five words. I don't speak what's supposed
19:28
to do. How is St. Patrick's Day?
19:30
St. Patrick's Day is a lot of
19:33
fun. Chicago. I would say it goes
19:35
harder than Boston for St. Patrick's Day.
19:37
Everywhere is absolute chaos. A lot of
19:39
fun. I'm old. What was your... I
19:41
don't know that I have those days
19:43
and me. Too many more of those
19:46
days in me. If we did an
19:48
old school, like steel clock and clock
19:50
out, what was your clock in clock
19:52
out numbers? It was a full 12
19:54
hour shift. At least maybe overtime. Yeah,
19:56
I feel like maybe some time and
19:59
a half. What time did you guys
20:01
you guys all meet up early? What
20:03
time did you guys? I went out
20:05
late quote-on-quote at like 11. And you
20:07
stayed out till 2? That's 14 hours.
20:09
Yeah, yeah, overtime, time and a half.
20:12
That's 15. I was with Hank at
20:14
11. I went out until like 4.30,
20:16
went home, took a nap, went back
20:18
out. Hank was still out from when
20:20
I started. And then I left and
20:22
then he was like... Oh what you're
20:25
a pushy you're gonna meet me out
20:27
here and then you're gonna be the
20:29
one to leave early I'm like dude
20:31
I'm going home you guys are you
20:33
guys are too fucked up for me.
20:36
So that's actually that's the most impressive
20:38
thing you can do I think Max
20:40
I think it's way more impressive to
20:42
go home for two hours take a
20:44
nap reset is something I think it's
20:46
way more impressive to go home for
20:49
two hours take a nap reset is
20:51
something I I don't think I've done
20:53
that in 20 years. I really don't.
20:55
That's something that you just don't do
20:57
when you get older. You go home,
20:59
you even think about your house. And
21:02
you're like, well, that's it for me
21:04
for the night. Sleep is death. Sleep
21:06
is death. What Hank is referring to
21:08
as sleep is death is when 2015,
21:10
when Wisconsin beat Kentucky in the final
21:12
four, I basically stayed out from after
21:15
that game until, so the game ended
21:17
Saturday at like 10 p. I think
21:19
I was out till about 4 a.m.
21:21
went to sleep for like three hours,
21:23
got back up, went back out to
21:25
the bar on that Sunday till like
21:28
midnight. So basically was out for I
21:30
don't know 24 out of 30 hours
21:32
and we were with clients and they
21:34
were like we have a tour of
21:36
Lucas Oil Stadium. This is Sunday afternoon
21:38
after I've been drinking for 14 out
21:41
of 18 hours and I just kept
21:43
on repeating I was like sleep is
21:45
death sleep is death sleep is death
21:47
I was like I'm going on the
21:49
only way I can go on this
21:51
tour is if you let me sneak
21:54
alcohol in so they they'd poured me
21:56
drinks into like a Coke can and
21:58
I walked in standing on Lucas stadium
22:00
just drinking like straight vodka just
22:02
trying to stay away because I was
22:04
so fun sleep is death but credits
22:06
you Hank yeah we're here I'm excited for
22:08
this week I mean this this is the
22:11
best like you know it's definitely one of
22:13
those like I'm never drinking again type of
22:15
mornings and this is the best week to
22:17
just take it easy and just go all in
22:19
on college basketball yeah love it love it
22:21
how'd your bets do did you use you
22:24
were so drunk you forgot to fade me yeah
22:26
damn that's tough to do no actually
22:28
did well so you're good this
22:30
was a good week shout out
22:32
oldy yeah if you tailed oldy you
22:35
did well yeah we'll do some red
22:37
hot okay any other thoughts from
22:39
this region i'm excited for
22:41
this region i like michigan
22:43
state though a lot yeah
22:45
i got michigan state over
22:48
Auburn yeah okay west florida is
22:50
the is the one seed in
22:52
the west this is this my
22:54
region of death No, I think it's
22:56
another one. This is the best region
22:58
of coaches. This might be the best
23:01
region of coaches. Yeah, the big storyline
23:03
in this in this region is that
23:05
we get Billself versus Cal for
23:07
a chance to play Rick Patino. If
23:09
Rick Patino can beat Omaha. I
23:11
need, if Rick Patino can beat
23:13
Omaha. I need that to be
23:16
Calverse. Yes, you know, the Calverse
23:18
Patino. That's what America is hoping
23:20
for. Kansas is hoping. They're gonna
23:22
be a pain of the ass
23:24
to watch. But Arkansas is not
23:26
great. No. So I think Kansas is favorite,
23:28
aren't they? It's a 710, but I
23:30
think Kansas is also a slight favorite.
23:32
Someone looking up on draft kings right
23:34
now. This is my region of death
23:36
because I think... Florida Maryland and
23:38
St. John's and Texas Tech those the
23:41
top four seeds in this region all
23:43
in my mind could be final four
23:45
teams and they've got maybe the best
23:47
12 seed. Yeah they have one of
23:49
the best 12 seeds in Colorado State
23:51
who's a favorite in this game and
23:53
Florida's probably playing the best ball out
23:55
of anyone right now they just steamrolled
23:57
the SEC tournament. Oh yeah and also
23:59
Yukon. is in there. Okay, so let's
24:01
talk about that real quick as Florida's
24:03
gonna beat Norfolk State and then UConn
24:05
plays Oklahoma. I think UConn can lose
24:08
to Oklahoma. I kind of don't want
24:10
UConn to lose to Oklahoma because I
24:12
want UConn to play Florida and everyone
24:14
to be like, watch out for UConn and
24:16
Florida's gonna be like, watch out for UConn
24:19
and Florida's gonna beat him by 100. And
24:21
it's no offense to UConn, they've, they're
24:23
back to back title winners, but they're
24:25
going to that. Florida's very
24:27
very good. That would be my take on
24:29
that. So I'm rooting for you con just
24:32
so that I can bet Florida against you.
24:34
Florida's very good. Yeah, Colorado State team has
24:36
started five and five probably the hottest team
24:38
in the country. They are awesome and they're the
24:40
12 seat over Memphis and they are a three
24:42
and a half point favorite which makes perfect sense
24:44
if you follow the numbers. It doesn't make sense
24:47
if you just look at a bracket. And
24:49
Memphis they have that what's the guy that
24:51
they got that scored four he scored 42
24:53
I think in the tournament semi finals. I
24:55
think in the tournament semi finals. Uh, I
24:57
don't know who they have a big injury
24:59
though. Oh, fuck. Who is it? I wrote
25:01
down notes. God damn it. I took notes
25:03
on like three different things. They have they
25:05
have a really, really good player.
25:07
And I can't. I can't remember
25:10
where all my notes are. Oh, Tyrese
25:12
Hunter is the is the Memphis player
25:14
who might be out. He was in a
25:16
walking boot and he will. He's a
25:18
he's a he's a very big part
25:20
of their defense. He had Neke Clifford
25:22
is he's awesome. He's awesome. He's
25:25
awesome. No, we're looking for Memphis.
25:27
I think it was Clifford. I
25:29
think you're saying Colorado State
25:31
scored 42 points. I know
25:33
somebody on Memphis scored. Oh,
25:35
yeah, because I think 42 in the
25:37
semis. All right, find it Max There
25:39
I watched so much fucking basketball.
25:42
My brain is just completely
25:44
PJ Haggerty. You score 42 He's
25:46
a bucket Max is just
25:49
not good at the Google
25:51
thing. 42. There we go.
25:53
Against Wichita State. Yeah, there
25:55
we go. You got it, Max.
26:00
That nap coming in clutch. That nap
26:02
is, you can feel that. Let's go.
26:04
Wow. You did? I'm napped up. What's
26:06
on to take that nap? I don't
26:08
know, around like one. Hell yeah, sick.
26:11
Yeah, Neke Clifford though for Colorado State
26:13
is, he's awesome. And without Tyre's Hunter,
26:15
if he doesn't play, that would be
26:17
a problem. Missouri Drake, I'm very excited
26:20
for, oh, Maryland, Maryland Grand Canyon is
26:22
a bigger game. Maryland kind of got
26:24
screwed, too, I feel like, I feel
26:26
like, they probably could have been a
26:29
three. The crab five. Yeah. The best
26:31
nickname. They have to, where is that
26:33
game? Why doesn't the games, why don't
26:35
the games have the locations on the
26:37
bracket? I don't know where that game
26:40
is, but I got a fun stat
26:42
about Maryland. Okay. Queen, one of the
26:44
members of the Fab Five. Yes. Crab
26:46
Five. Yeah, that's what I said, right?
26:49
First time I said crab. The crab
26:51
five. They have lost in every single
26:53
game that he's made a three pointer.
26:55
Yeah. If he's do not let him
26:58
shoot any threes, that's very important. Yeah,
27:00
so I like Maryland in that little
27:02
quadrant and then Missouri Drake's gonna be
27:04
very fun because Drake is an absolute
27:07
snail of a team. They don't want
27:09
they want to go as slow as
27:11
possible. If there was no shock clock,
27:13
they would hold the ball for the
27:15
like 10 minutes to start the game.
27:18
That's they'd be like the high school
27:20
team just being like we're not going
27:22
to play this game We're going to
27:24
make it a three possession game and
27:27
the zoo can run And then tech
27:29
second is really good too. So this
27:31
is this might be our region of
27:33
death. I'm just ruined for Drake to
27:36
keep playing so we can make jokes
27:38
That's it. Okay. That's like when oral
27:40
Roberts is playing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well
27:42
Drake a lot of and more head
27:44
you loved one as oral Roberts and
27:47
more. Yeah. That was the best that
27:49
was maybe a super bracket bracket. Yeah.
27:51
can't get better than that. There's making
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a sandwich and then there's crafting a
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sandwich and when I want something perfectly
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bite at Boershead. Hank, how you doing,
28:29
checking in? Good. Uh, checking in on
28:31
the West. Checking in on you physically.
28:34
I actually think you should fill it
28:36
out right now because there's a chance
28:38
you might just be so hung over
28:40
that you turned off your brain and
28:43
you just come up with the best
28:45
picks. I would like Coach Cal to
28:47
make a run. Okay. I think that'd
28:49
be fun. Okay. Good thoughts. And St.
28:51
John's, I have you, I bet St.
28:54
John's Final Final Four. I'll be reading
28:56
for that as well. St. John's good.
28:58
They play Big East basketball. Do a
29:00
pet over there? I do. Memes and
29:03
Max, if you guys have any thoughts
29:05
or picks you love, just chime in
29:07
because I know Memes, you already fell
29:09
out of bracket. Memes has St. John's
29:12
to win at all. St. John's, win
29:14
at all. I filled out my entire
29:16
bracket. It's kind of... It's a weird,
29:18
St. John's, B-Y-Y-U, Kentucky. That's that's that's
29:21
the first go at it. How many
29:23
edits are you going to do? Probably
29:25
two or three. What what led you
29:27
to that? I love B. Y. You
29:29
I just love how they play and
29:32
the region they're in. I think they
29:34
could outrun the teams are going to
29:36
play. Yeah, no straight shots. But that's
29:38
also memes. It had been a while
29:41
since I haven't been in a lot
29:43
of big games in a long time.
29:45
It had been a while since I
29:47
lost a quote-unquote big game, the Big
29:50
Ten Championship today. Memes was just firing
29:52
off the memes. Like it felt like
29:54
he had been waiting for that moment
29:56
for so long because he hasn't had
29:58
a chance. If you're just betting on
30:01
social media memes, I would say that
30:03
you want you want Wisconsin to beat
30:05
BYU and then you want Wisconsin to
30:07
lose to Duke. No, you want or
30:10
the Wisconsin BAMMA. No, I think you
30:12
want Wisconsin to be BAMMA just so
30:14
that Duke can be the one to
30:16
beat you. I think if I'm just
30:19
thinking about memes here. No, he's gonna
30:21
get, listen, he's gonna get him off
30:23
no matter when Wisconsin loses. Like it's
30:25
gonna be, he's ready to go no
30:28
matter what. I made so many more
30:30
today too. Oh, of course, I'm sure
30:32
you did. There's so many good ones.
30:34
I thought we were gonna win too.
30:36
We, we need to have a rule
30:39
for, we need to get back control.
30:41
Remember when we used to have control
30:43
of the Twitter account? Yeah. I haven't
30:45
had the password for the Twitter account
30:48
for the Twitter account forever. We need
30:50
to get control for when memes loses
30:52
for when memes loses. We we should
30:54
do that next year if the Jets
30:57
are ever in a big game. Oh,
30:59
you know what the Knicks so if
31:01
the Knicks when the Knicks are in
31:03
the playoffs I want I want control
31:05
if the Knicks are an elimination game
31:08
Okay, so we can just go off
31:10
on me. So about the Islanders? Nah,
31:12
they suck. They suck I knew that
31:14
they suck Okay, uh, okay East I've
31:17
come to the realization that I think
31:19
Duke's gonna win the whole thing so
31:21
flag His injury is gonna I don't
31:23
think he's gonna play at all in
31:26
the first two games doesn't matter But
31:28
then he's gonna be back will he
31:30
be a hundred percent doesn't matter. I
31:32
don't know. They're still very deep They're
31:35
so good. I they're gonna win it
31:37
all I've just come to accept that
31:39
I it would They're just so well
31:41
rounded so deep. I think Cooper flag
31:43
will be fine. I think he probably
31:46
even if he doesn't play in the
31:48
first weekend They'll be fine and then
31:50
it'll be fully healthy. They're so good
31:52
I can't, I'm just, I have to
31:55
brace myself. Where are they playing? Probably
31:57
somewhere, probably at Durham. Raleigh. There you
31:59
go. Pretty easy. Pretty easy trip for
32:01
him. I have the, oh, by the
32:04
way, shout out our guy Jonathan Warner.
32:06
I think we mentioned him last year.
32:08
A lot of people have brackets. He's
32:10
the only guy I know that in
32:12
the 45 minutes from when the bracket
32:15
is released to when the tip times
32:17
come out, he tries to predict every
32:19
tip time. How do you do this
32:21
year? I don't know, so many games.
32:24
I'm trying to see if he nailed
32:26
any of them. And you're playing on
32:28
Thursday, right? Yeah. Whiskey? Yeah. Okay so
32:30
Duke we have we have revenge games
32:33
in Duke's region because we have Jeremy
32:35
Roach on Baylor could play Duke he
32:37
played for Duke and then we also
32:39
have on Arizona if they get to
32:42
the Sweet 16 against Duke Caleb Love
32:44
which would be fun. See them go
32:46
up against each other one last time.
32:48
I think Oregon is the is the
32:50
scary team in this region for Duke
32:53
if they can get to the Sweet
32:55
16. Yeah I have Oregon beating Arizona
32:57
the second because that will be it.
32:59
I think that's going to be the
33:02
Caleb Love Masterpiece. I think he'll go
33:04
three for 21 for 14 points. I
33:06
like that. I think that's where I
33:08
like that. Essentially the the Josh Rosen
33:11
stat line of basketball. Yes, yes. Okay,
33:13
then in the bottom half, yes. B-Y-U-V-C-U
33:15
memes is B-Y-U. If B-Y-U loses in
33:17
the first round memes, I'd like access
33:19
to the Twitter account. Okay, deal. I'm
33:22
a B-Y-Y-U lever. Oh,
33:24
please don't say that ever again. What?
33:26
How much B.Y.U. basketball have you watched?
33:28
I watch every single game. They play,
33:31
they play late and I just love
33:33
Ben on them. Okay. B.Y.U. and VCU.
33:35
That's actually a stylistic clash because VCU
33:38
can muck it up and just play
33:40
gritty defense right in their face. And
33:42
then Wisconsin, Montana. Wisconsin got screwed in
33:45
terms of the time, but you gotta
33:47
go play the games. And altitude. It
33:49
is crazy Montes used to the altitude.
33:51
Yeah, it is crazy the third game
33:54
on Thursday after playing four games in
33:56
Rome. out in Denver. I don't know
33:58
why they didn't give, I also don't
34:01
know why they wouldn't want, why wouldn't
34:03
you want to sell more tickets? Why
34:05
wouldn't you want Wisconsin to be in
34:07
Milwaukee? Like they were, there's two other
34:10
three seats in Milwaukee. So who is
34:12
playing in Milwaukee? Kentucky and and Iowa
34:14
State. I don't know, I think like
34:17
protecting a three seed is like halfway
34:19
down the list of stuff that's important
34:21
for them. Yeah, I know, it just
34:23
kind of made no sense. I actually
34:26
think they Probably should have lost on
34:28
Saturday. It almost hurt them. Yeah, and
34:30
then Alabama St. Mary's Vanderbilt and Robert
34:33
Morris the bottom half We need Alabama
34:35
loose. I got I think baby could
34:37
be Duke. I think they could I
34:39
think they could I think they possibly
34:42
could too. Phylon is my favorite player
34:44
to watch and call it they get
34:46
hot Hank was also you didn't you
34:49
I also didn't watch the game on
34:51
Saturday, but you also did not watch
34:53
the game. It was on at the
34:55
bar Then they get absolutely
34:58
smoked. Oh, yeah, they got balled. Oh,
35:00
oh the baby game. No, I didn't
35:02
watch the baby game Yeah, they got
35:04
bullied They also is not as good
35:06
of a three-point shooting team as they
35:09
were last year when they went to
35:11
the final four which they were a
35:13
very good team last year I Think
35:15
and Grant Nelson got hurt who knows
35:17
what's gonna happen with him. That's a
35:19
very big injury. That is to not
35:22
that happened on Saturday night He might
35:24
be okay Basco couldn't get an answer.
35:26
But they did crush Vandy when they
35:28
played earlier. Yeah. And then St. Mary's.
35:30
I don't know anything about St. Mary's.
35:33
Where do they have an Australian guy
35:35
this year? They always do. Randy Bennett's
35:37
been to about a billion tournaments. He
35:39
also, the last two years, they've not
35:41
played great, but I think one of
35:43
them was against Yukon, so it's like
35:46
that doesn't really count. Because Yukon was
35:48
really, really good. They'll slow it down.
35:50
So it would be a very fun
35:52
match up to see Alabama trying to
35:54
speed it up for St. Mary's slowing
35:57
it down. Where are they on Ken
35:59
Palm? They had a very
36:01
St. Mary's year. They beat Gonzaga twice
36:03
in in league play and then lost
36:05
to him in the championship game. And
36:07
they're a very well-rounded team that plays
36:09
very slow. Three hundred and fifty-nine in
36:11
Tempo. Yep. That's what they want to
36:13
do. And Bama is one. That's why
36:15
I want to see it. Like I
36:17
said, Houston kind of got screwed because
36:19
Houston Gonzagas is the nine team in
36:21
Ken Palm and Houston is a one
36:24
seed so that's who they maybe have
36:26
to match up with in the second
36:28
round and they have a big injury
36:30
which Juan Roberts so that could be
36:32
that could be a wrinkle in this
36:34
whole bracket. That happens to Houston every
36:36
year. Yeah, every year. They've got the
36:38
worst luck. This is one of my
36:40
favorite regions and just that there's a
36:42
game that I really want to happen.
36:44
in Illinois and Kentucky in Tennessee in
36:46
the second round that would be so
36:48
much fun because it's like the two
36:50
quintessential boomer bus teams where if they're
36:52
on they play the best basketball in
36:55
the world and when they're off they
36:57
are just absolute dog shit so I
36:59
would love to see them match up
37:01
and hope both are on because we'd
37:03
get one of the best tournament games
37:05
possible. I like the I like the
37:07
bottom half of this bracket a lot.
37:09
I like Illinois Kentucky UCLA and Tennessee
37:11
I think those will make for at
37:13
the very least. Very entertaining second round
37:15
matchups. Yeah, they all win tough region
37:17
Clems and also I feel like they
37:19
got a little bit screwed with their
37:21
seating But Clems in Purdue high points
37:23
gonna be a great game. There's so
37:26
many fucking good games. I got damn
37:28
it I love this tournament heard a
37:30
rumor that high points not pumped about
37:32
playing Purdue. Oh really? Yeah, it's a
37:34
rumor. It's a rumor at sources. No,
37:36
I don't want to throw anybody another
37:38
bus. No, but it's someone who's in
37:40
my inner circle who's in my inner
37:42
circle who's in my inner circle and
37:44
You know, we have a good relationship.
37:46
Yeah. And so I don't want to
37:48
go behind their back. I don't want
37:50
to annoy the guy. Yeah. Hank, what
37:52
are your thoughts on the Midwest? I
37:54
got Houston coming out of the Midwest.
37:57
Yeah. I like Houston, Tennessee and the
37:59
elite eight. And I think... High Point's
38:01
gonna make a run despite not loving
38:03
their first round match up against Purdue.
38:05
That's bad to not love that. Yeah, I
38:07
know that's what I said too. The one
38:09
thing I will say about this bracket is
38:11
crazy that they hypothetically were even thinking
38:14
about Purdue this this early on. High point,
38:16
what do you mean? Like they said before the
38:18
tournament. Actually never mind. Well, oh, they
38:20
said before the tournament they didn't want
38:23
to play. But they were just saying
38:25
like if there's a bunch of teams
38:27
that they could play in that they could
38:29
play. slot that they were putting themselves in
38:31
and Purdue was one of the teams that
38:34
they said do do not like that match
38:36
up who's your guy's source I don't want
38:38
to talk about it Max just rumors
38:40
he knows someone at high point he knows
38:42
a coach no no got it I didn't
38:44
say it was a train I said it
38:47
was a he yeah good point hang pfte
38:49
has multiple insiders sources that are women
38:51
that's right could be anyone produced
38:53
defense not good I think this is
38:56
the I think the Midwest region so
38:58
the West is my region of death
39:00
because I think there's four teams
39:02
that are all very like qualified
39:04
to be in the final four
39:07
Midwest is my chaos region I this
39:09
could go any which way because
39:11
I could which Juan Roberts out
39:13
for Houston potentially out for Houston
39:16
there's not one in like
39:18
Tennessee Rick Barnes Rick Barnes and
39:20
then you have two teams in
39:22
Kentucky and Illinois who at their
39:24
ceiling Could be final four teams,
39:26
but they've also shown their floor
39:29
and it's very ugly I the
39:31
coach Cal he could lose that
39:33
first round match up again. That
39:35
would be game that Cal would be
39:37
game that Cal would lose. Cal would
39:40
lose. That would be game that Cal
39:42
would lose Detroit. I think Pope would
39:44
not lose Detroit. I think Pope would
39:47
not lose Detroit. And also this
39:49
this region has some fun wrinkle
39:51
that uh, Mick Cronin who was
39:53
very vocal about Eastern Standard time
39:55
and having to play there and you
39:57
say it was bad playing in Eastern
39:59
Standard. time this year this they have
40:02
to go play in eastern standard
40:04
time that's tough so they kind
40:06
of stuck it to them there
40:08
uh yeah this is my region
40:10
of i don't know what the
40:12
fuck's gonna happen so i think
40:14
here's my take i think whoever
40:16
wins the east win at all
40:18
it's gonna be Duke Duke's gonna
40:20
win at all could be Wisconsin
40:23
could be Bama Florida is the
40:25
only chance why don't why don't
40:27
Wisconsin revenge in the elite aid
40:29
for a chance of the final
40:31
four listen I just want to
40:33
get to the sweet 16 that's
40:35
the Everything after that is like,
40:37
let's just let's see what happens.
40:39
God will take me revenge. Yeah,
40:42
if Wisconsin can shoot like yours
40:44
You're just a means you're me
40:46
started the championship DVD You're just
40:48
another memes you want to set
40:50
me up for I do I
40:52
am very happy that Wisconsin played
40:54
a game like today where it
40:56
just it really smoked out all
40:58
the haters because there's a lot
41:00
of people who watched their first
41:03
college basketball game today and they're
41:05
like wow Wisconsin stinks They hit
41:07
18-3s on Friday. They play great
41:09
offense bad day. They were tired
41:11
legs. They were taking the same
41:13
shots. I actually think that they
41:15
were taking better shots. Yeah, they
41:17
were in the championship game than
41:19
they were on Friday. It's just
41:22
that every shot they were taking
41:24
on Friday was going in every
41:26
single one. And they just were
41:28
ran out of gas. But that
41:30
was, it was fun to, I
41:32
got a lot of bookmarks and
41:34
hopefully I can revisit. I'm sure
41:36
he's got some. some good Intel
41:38
we didn't even think about. Oh,
41:40
I had one thing that I
41:43
wanted to say about this. This
41:45
is the year that don't be
41:47
afraid to just do chalk. I
41:49
know that it sounds like you
41:51
never want to be that guy.
41:53
Don't get as cute as you
41:55
think you want to get because
41:57
I saw this stat from Maxbar
41:59
CBB on Twitter. Only four teams
42:02
since 2000 have entered the tournament
42:04
plus 35 net rating. that's a
42:06
just a deficiency rating on Ken
42:08
Palm or better. So only four
42:10
teams since 2000 entered the tournament
42:12
plus 35 net rating. That was
42:14
the 2021 Gonzaga Bulldogs. They were
42:16
they finished second. They were the
42:18
runner up in that year. 2019
42:20
Virginia. They were the champion. 2015
42:23
Kentucky. Final four loss of Wisconsin.
42:25
2001 Duke. They won it all.
42:27
So only four teams since 2000
42:29
at 35 net rating or higher.
42:31
This year. Four teams have 35
42:33
net rating or higher. So that's
42:35
insane. Yeah, like that it that
42:37
just shows you that the one
42:39
seeds this year are playing at
42:42
such a high level And are
42:44
so dominant that it's Literally net
42:46
the total amount of teams that
42:48
it was good this year. It's
42:50
been whatever 25 years. It took
42:52
four for four other teams to
42:54
do it. So Duke Florida Houston
42:56
Auburn are historically great teams And
42:58
so don't be afraid to just
43:01
go chalk. That would be my
43:03
speech. You're gonna wanna get cute.
43:05
Well, don't get cute. Maybe get
43:07
cute early on. Get cute early
43:09
on. And I would say if
43:11
you're gonna try to say, hey,
43:13
where can we not do the
43:15
one seed? It would be if
43:17
Juan Roberts doesn't play in Houston
43:19
might be that one. And maybe
43:22
Michigan State. Possum, Michigan State over
43:24
Robert, does have bad vibes. The
43:26
way they finish out. No Why
43:28
not he just what he has
43:30
a ban a few he has
43:32
a ban a few but every
43:34
time every time they play it's
43:36
a good game. Max on the
43:38
bus Not even I mean I
43:41
just want good content. He wants
43:43
you with the at the pumps
43:45
party and you on the bus.
43:47
What's Max on the bus? For
43:49
a pickham we made a bet
43:51
Rico Bosco huge Bama fan a
43:53
good college ball expert close friends
43:55
of NATOates if Alabama doesn't make
43:57
the final four. Rico Bosco has
43:59
to take a to San Antonio
44:02
from New York City. If Alabama
44:04
does make the final four, Max
44:06
and Jack McCarthy have taken a
44:08
bus from Chicago to San Antonio,
44:10
and I have to go to
44:12
the pump party on Thursday night.
44:14
Am I, this is a pickum
44:16
bet? Yeah. Am I a part
44:18
of the pickum show? Yeah. Yeah.
44:21
By proxy? Yeah. All right, just
44:23
wanted to. put a little bit
44:25
of context out there that this
44:27
is an insane bet that I'm
44:29
a part of. Max just got
44:31
thrown into it. I know you're
44:33
a chief scout. Do it? You're
44:35
a chief scout. It's Max. Yeah.
44:37
Yeah, but yeah, that's basically what
44:39
happened. Yeah, blame your buddy. It
44:42
was you. No, it was Jack
44:44
McCarthy. It was Jack v. Rico
44:46
and then and then you were
44:48
like, oh yeah, we'll have Max
44:50
Go with Jack too. Well, Bama
44:52
is going to lose. What's done
44:54
is done. Bama has to lose.
44:56
You have to, as Hank said,
44:58
we're just rooting for content, so
45:01
you'll be very invested in those
45:03
games. Other good content, though, would
45:05
be, Wisco beating Bidding Bama and
45:07
then beating Duke. Oh, I appreciate
45:09
that, because I assumed you wanted
45:11
them to lose one of those
45:13
games so that you can get
45:15
your memes off. Well, then he's
45:17
just assuming you would lose in
45:19
the final four. Oh. Yeah, but
45:22
that would be losing at some
45:24
point. Those would be two electric,
45:26
electric games. Those would be electric
45:28
games. Been cat first Hank. Be
45:30
fun. Duke Wisconsin. People forget I
45:32
respectfully didn't even wear Duke. You
45:34
did. You're very nice about that.
45:36
The national championship. You have a
45:38
very nice thing. Wow. There's, I
45:41
just love looking at this bracket.
45:43
Also, the IT bracket just came
45:45
out. Max. Oh. You're not in
45:47
it. Sorry. Are you aware of
45:49
the crown? Oh, are you not
45:51
aware of the college basketball crown?
45:53
Yeah. The fake tournament that just
45:55
builds up at the last second?
45:57
The crown is pretty... The crown.
45:59
Pretty prestigious. I don't think you
46:02
know about the crown. I know
46:04
about the crown. The crown where
46:06
they say that they're going to
46:08
make NIL payments, but they don't
46:10
actually make NIL payments unless you
46:12
finish in the finals. That crown?
46:14
The crown is going to be
46:16
pretty sick. It's in Vegas. It's
46:18
pretty awesome. Is Villanova in the
46:21
Crown? Uh, we should be. Stand
46:23
by. Who's coaching him? Great point.
46:25
I wanted to do a player
46:27
coach. Eric Dixon. Coach. What is
46:29
he going to do? Miss Moore
46:31
shots? Yep. And then we're just
46:33
on. I'm fine with losing immediately
46:35
and just figuring out who our
46:37
next coach is. If I was
46:39
losing the crown. Then let's not
46:42
be that important of tournament. It's
46:44
not that important. But it's cool
46:46
to say the crown. Uh, yeah,
46:48
it was a good weekend of
46:50
hoops. Fuckin' Wall the Wall. I
46:52
had fun until I didn't. Anything
46:54
else? N-I-T-S-A-T-S-O-N-I-T-S-O-N-I-T-S-O-N-I-T-S-O-N-I-T-S-O-N-I-T-S-O-I-S-I-S-I-I-I-I-the-I-I-the-I-the-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I Dayton, suburban in that,
46:56
Dayton, the NIT is taking a
46:58
hit this year, David against FAU,
47:01
Middle Tennessee against Chattanooga, Bradley against
47:03
North Alabama, George Mason against Sanford,
47:05
I love George Mason's big band,
47:07
he was fun to watch, San
47:09
Francisco against Utah Valley, San Jose
47:11
State, against Loyola, Chicago, Sister Jean,
47:13
St. John's, St. Bonnie's against Kent
47:15
State, and then Stanford, against Cson.
47:17
Cal State, Cal State Northridge Northridge.
47:19
So no Indiana do they just
47:22
deny the bed? They might be
47:24
in the crown. No, they're in
47:26
the crown all in the crown
47:28
I've teeth You got to understand
47:30
how important way round is you
47:32
don't get the crown. I left
47:34
off one leg of the bracket
47:36
then we have UC Irvine Northern
47:38
Colorado Georgia Tech against Jacksonville State
47:41
St. Joseph's against UAB Santa Clara
47:43
against U. Clear against U. U.
47:45
C. Riverside the EIT it's going
47:47
to be about the crown So
47:49
wait who's the biggest power five
47:51
team in the in the MIT
47:53
this year? I respect Georgia Tech
47:55
Respect looks like the ACC is
47:57
the only is the only crown
47:59
Georgia Tech Stanford, SMU, SMU, SMU,
48:02
Oklahoma State. Yeah, okay. Damn. And
48:04
then Hank's Furman. You like Furman
48:06
all the way? Furman a lot.
48:08
What are they? The Furman, what's?
48:10
The Furman boilers. The boilers. The
48:12
boilers. The boilers. All right. Like
48:14
boilers, like a chef, someone who
48:16
boils something or boilers like an
48:18
engine? Like an engine. Like an
48:21
engine. Hey, did you fill out
48:23
a bracket? Well, I asked a
48:25
question for a reason, although I
48:27
didn't know about the injury, I
48:29
have, out of the south, Auburn,
48:31
coming out of the west, St.
48:33
John's, after beating Yukon. Oh, in
48:35
the elite eight. Yeah. So you
48:37
have Yukon over Florida. And Maryland,
48:39
yeah. Wow. You gotta beat the
48:42
champs to be the champs. They
48:44
have the championship DNA. Florida beats
48:46
the champs. What if Oklahoma beats
48:48
the champs? I don't think they're
48:50
going to. I think this team
48:52
is coach well. They have championship
48:54
DNA. They know what it takes
48:56
to get it done at this
48:58
time of the year. Rick Patino,
49:01
he has championship DNA. It's true.
49:03
That's why he's going to be
49:05
tested. Uh-huh. And then I have
49:07
Houston beating Tennessee to advance out
49:09
of the Midwest. I love that
49:11
when you talk college basketball, you
49:13
say it the correct Houston way.
49:15
Houston, I'll burn. I like Kentucky
49:17
Tennessee matchup before that. That'll be
49:19
a fun one. High point they
49:22
have the the kid he's gonna
49:24
be the story the Mm-hmm Exciting
49:26
white. Yeah. Oh who mean mugged?
49:28
Yeah. Yeah big time and then
49:30
in this bracket I guess I
49:32
wasn't thinking about storylines, but I
49:34
have Bama beating Wisconsin and then
49:36
Duke on the way to the
49:38
final four so Bama's gonna be
49:41
in the final four and they're
49:43
going to beat a burn And
49:45
Max having to take a bus
49:47
and me having to go to
49:49
the pump party. Yeah, I wasn't
49:51
really thinking about any of that
49:53
when I filled this bracket out.
49:55
This is just how it kind
49:57
of shook out. Yeah. Got it.
50:00
Well that would suck. Right Max.
50:02
I'm still doing research on the crown.
50:05
What do you find? You might
50:07
not even be in the crown. What
50:09
do you got for us? No,
50:11
we're definitely in the crown. I think
50:13
we have an auto bid to
50:15
the crown. Yeah, the crown is in
50:18
conjunction with the TV network, so they
50:20
basically forced teams to go to
50:22
the crown. You can't say no. Yeah,
50:24
I did ask some Villanova people
50:26
because I've been trying to get on
50:29
the... I'm trying to get in to
50:31
know who our next coach is
50:33
going to be. I'm like, can we
50:36
opt out of the next tournament
50:38
to just focus on coaching? And apparently
50:40
you're not allowed to opt out of
50:42
the ground. That sucks. You can
50:44
opt out of the NIT. You can
50:47
opt out of the NIT. You're
50:49
not allowed to opt out of the
50:51
ground. You just got to wait
50:53
for Vandy to lose, then you get
50:55
your next coach. Richard Patino? I
50:58
can give you my list. Okay,
51:00
Richard Patino is on my list.
51:02
Italian League, my list is T.J.
51:04
Otson, Otson, what's his name? Otselberger,
51:06
yeah, Todd Golden, Will Wade, Tommy
51:08
Lloyd, Ben McCollum, Ryan Odom, Chris
51:10
Collins, Mitch Anderson, Richard Patino, Matt
51:12
Langel, Porter Moser. Wait wait. Hold
51:14
on. Go back real quick. Todd
51:16
Golden is the Florida head coach.
51:18
Yep all my list who's One
51:20
seed and has probably an insane
51:22
NIL and coaches in the SEC
51:24
on my list. He's gonna go
51:26
to Villanova. He's on my list
51:28
is Villanova are they Jesuit school
51:30
What I don't know I he's
51:32
on my list. I don't know
51:34
I he's Villanova material He's on
51:36
your list. He's on my list.
51:38
John Shire. Yep He's on your
51:40
list? Sure, he can be on
51:42
my list. I do like Will
51:44
Wade though. Let's get Will Wade
51:46
a proper program to run now.
51:48
Father Peter would love Will Wade
51:50
and Todd Golden. What about Chris?
51:52
Spirit. List. He's on the list.
51:54
List. You're all on the list.
51:56
They're all on the list. They're
51:58
on the list. The one job
52:00
in America. Arguably. Championship DNA. What
52:02
on Jay Wright? Jay Wright owns
52:04
the list. Oh, he runs the
52:06
list. He runs the list. What
52:08
do you think they'd have to
52:10
offer Jay Wright to come back?
52:12
I think they have offered him
52:14
unlimited money. So I think that
52:16
there is not a number. Got
52:18
it. What would you personally do
52:20
to get Jay right as the
52:22
coach? Well, what would you want?
52:25
I just want to know where
52:27
your line is. Yeah, line is
52:29
high. My line, I miss Jay
52:31
right. Would you suck and fuck?
52:33
Yes. Okay. Would you, uh... Would
52:35
you quit? Would I quit this
52:37
show? Yeah. I wouldn't let you.
52:39
I think about it. Well, you
52:41
should say yes, because we just
52:43
say no, you're not allowed. Yes.
52:45
Yeah, yeah, okay. Would you kill
52:47
memes? Easy. That's easy, including the
52:49
show. I would help you with
52:51
that. Yeah. He's a BY you
52:53
lever. Don't say that. Please don't
52:55
say that. BY you leave. He's
52:57
just been, like, cackling to himself
52:59
back here with the Microsoft saying
53:01
BY you leave her over and
53:03
over and over again. So bad.
53:05
Yeah, I was saying it would
53:07
be funny if if there's a
53:09
year where BY makes a tournament
53:11
But they're not very good and
53:13
the committee is just like yeah,
53:15
we're giving you Friday Sunday. You're
53:17
not gonna win. Don't worry. It's
53:19
not a big deal Okay, let's
53:21
do who's back of the week
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and then we will get to
53:25
more bracket talk with John Rothstein?
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the week. Like who's got it
54:25
in you. We talk about it
54:27
a lot. I mean, it's obviously
54:29
a week early, but there was
54:31
a lot of college basketball similar
54:33
to the tournament. And having something
54:35
to wean you off on Monday,
54:37
and the golf gods, the weather
54:39
gods, have granted us that. There's
54:41
a three hole aggregate playoff for
54:43
the players championship tomorrow morning, nine
54:45
AM Eastern. So that will be
54:47
a nice thing to wake up
54:49
to. Nice way to get your
54:51
way into the week. Rory. Jay
54:53
Jay Jay, Jay. I just, it's
54:55
a fun storyline of him just,
54:58
you know, kind of getting so
55:00
close and choking. But Rory on
55:02
St. Patrick's Day? I feel like
55:04
that's good vibes for him, right?
55:06
Northern Ireland also celebrates it. They
55:08
do? I looked it up, yeah.
55:10
It's not as big a deal,
55:12
I don't think, it's like they're
55:14
Protestant up there. It's St. Patrick's
55:16
Day, that's a Catholic thing. I
55:18
just feel like, do you not
55:20
like Rory now? You've come around
55:22
on our discussion on the live
55:24
guy. This is where it's like
55:26
I haven't something I've come around.
55:28
You see the live performer? Yeah,
55:30
she was great. She was awesome.
55:32
What if live just decided to
55:34
get into the college basketball playoff
55:36
scene? Probably is going to happen.
55:38
You're going to be with. The
55:40
crown is crown being. Yeah. That's
55:42
kind of what it is, right?
55:44
The crown prince. Yeah. Yeah. And
55:46
then my other who's back at
55:48
the week is, it's hanks on
55:50
the street and this is definitely
55:52
a sign of, I'm really old,
55:54
but have you guys seen borks?
55:56
Nope. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're talking
55:58
about the jugs. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
56:00
yeah. So there it's big and
56:02
mad. I think you see everyone
56:04
drinking pork. I think it's on
56:06
the lake. I think it's borg.
56:08
Isn't it B. R. G. Or
56:10
sorry. Yeah. Blackout rage gallon. Yeah.
56:12
And it's basically just pouring. It's
56:14
jungle juice a ton of vodka
56:16
into a gallon jug some water
56:18
and then just the like liquid
56:20
drops. Yeah. Fowl. Yeah. But you
56:22
know how to have that like
56:24
parties? Not no not in the
56:26
way. Not in the way. We're
56:28
like ever clear. I've seen yeah
56:30
in the game we'd put it
56:32
in like an actual gatorine container
56:34
it wasn't as it's not as
56:36
common it seems like it's a
56:38
super super common thing where like
56:40
they're you know in the streets
56:42
of Boston streets of Chicago there's
56:44
just all the confiscated for gallon
56:46
borks people name them and stuff
56:48
yeah what it is it's just
56:50
like a personal thing that you
56:52
bring around it's just get blacked
56:54
out yeah it used to be
56:56
just jungle juice in that cooler
56:58
in that cooler at the party
57:00
yeah and then you have some
57:02
of that you never have to
57:04
worry about to worry about to
57:06
worry about cleaning out the cooler
57:08
because you just make more jungle
57:10
juice and it goes in there.
57:12
But now, yeah, you've got your
57:14
own borg that you carry around.
57:16
Yeah, no, like it's just, it's,
57:18
it's, it's so ratchet. I assume
57:20
it's a half handle of vodka
57:22
and some. I assume it's also
57:24
like, it's a lot of underage
57:26
drinking, I would assume. Yeah, scoops.
57:28
Yeah, it's one of those things
57:30
that I saw it and I
57:33
immediately said. That would make me
57:35
want to die, but if I
57:37
I were 20 years old, I'd
57:39
be heavy into the borks. Definitely.
57:41
All right, so those are two
57:43
whose backs? All right, Hank, Hank
57:45
took one of my whose backs?
57:47
Borks? Borks, yeah. Oh, shit. Tarbar,
57:49
too, sorry. board. Yeah it definitely
57:51
made me it seems like a
57:53
case race thing but a board
57:55
race. I just think yeah chairman
57:57
of the board like that. My
57:59
who's back the week is Karen
58:01
Reed. You guys remember Karen Reed?
58:03
Yeah. So her trial is going
58:05
to resume starting? I think it's
58:07
going to restart Hank you probably
58:09
know more about it than I
58:11
do. Karen Reed. Is it they're
58:13
restarting her trial? Yeah. So I
58:15
thought what would happen? Why did
58:17
it get stopped last time? No,
58:19
I think it was a... They
58:21
didn't come to a decision or
58:23
whatever. Is that hung jury? No.
58:25
What's hung jury? Split jury? Hung
58:27
jury? When you're all just packing
58:29
heat. Yeah. I think that's it.
58:31
Too many cocks. There was a
58:33
lot of meat on the jury.
58:35
No, it was, uh, yeah, there
58:37
was... It's not unanimous. It wasn't
58:39
unanimous. It wasn't unanimous. Not unanimous.
58:41
Yes. Another murder news trial. There's
58:43
new OJ Simpson documentary, which I
58:45
watched. every single one that I
58:47
watch because I've already seen 20
58:49
of them but I'm gonna watch
58:51
it if it's out. I have
58:53
a question for you PFT if
58:55
we're in the circle of trust.
58:57
I actually almost made a purchase
58:59
for you the other night but
59:01
then I realize you know what
59:03
this is probably too messed up.
59:05
I should have done it. I
59:07
don't know if it's still live.
59:09
There was an auction selling off
59:11
OJ Simpson's clothes. What kind of
59:13
clothes? Like Hawaiian shirts? Oh, not
59:15
the clothes. No. But like, just
59:17
his entire closet. Listen, I don't
59:19
like OJ. I've been very clear
59:21
on that. OJ's been on my
59:23
shit list for a long time
59:25
ever since he blocked me on
59:27
twitter.com. So you're saying, so maybe
59:29
I shouldn't, I should have bought
59:31
it, but maybe the fucked up
59:33
part is that I saw it
59:35
and immediately thought of me. Yeah,
59:37
I want people to look at
59:39
OJ and their first thought to
59:41
be PFT. I know exactly who'd
59:43
want this shirt. Remember where we
59:45
always interviewed him outside of jail?
59:47
Yeah. Well, no, it wasn't outside
59:49
of jail. The deal was, there
59:51
was an alcohol brand, I won't
59:53
say their name, that was asking
59:55
us to pick him up from
59:57
jail from jail in a van
59:59
and do an on the ride
1:00:01
home from the jail in Las
1:00:03
Vegas Nevada. Like his first interview
1:00:06
out was gonna be with us
1:00:08
and we're like, you know what,
1:00:10
he's a murderer so we're gonna
1:00:12
pass. Credit to us. Integrity. Integrity.
1:00:14
Also would have just been a
1:00:16
terrible interview and he was doing.
1:00:18
He probably would have tried to
1:00:20
kill us. Yeah, it would have
1:00:22
been a bad one. All right,
1:00:24
here's the here's the auction site.
1:00:26
Let me see if there's still.
1:00:28
Okay, you could get. Where
1:00:31
oh, oh, it's Heisman's $10,000. That's
1:00:33
it? Yeah, I mean, I think
1:00:35
it's an auction so there's still
1:00:37
time to go 13 days to
1:00:40
go That's it's buying his eyes
1:00:42
will be pretty sad That is
1:00:44
a steel. That would be pretty
1:00:47
sick. That would be pretty fucking
1:00:49
sick. You want to do it?
1:00:51
Well, let's see. Let's someone? Someone
1:00:53
please keep a counter 12 days
1:00:56
from now. Let us know pretty
1:00:58
much you didn't do Buckles is
1:01:00
hot and heavy. Oh he's got
1:01:02
golf bags. That'd be sick too.
1:01:05
Now that, you having OJ's golf
1:01:07
bags? Yeah, would be pretty sick.
1:01:09
Yeah, I'm in on that. All
1:01:12
right, yeah, let's, let's get, there's
1:01:14
13 days left in the auction.
1:01:16
So we'll have to revisit. March
1:01:18
26th? I don't know. Do you
1:01:21
do the mats? You got the
1:01:23
calendar in front of you? What
1:01:25
website is the ODA auction on?
1:01:27
Is it on enter slash slash
1:01:30
slash slash escape? No, it's actually
1:01:32
the guy golden auctions. Yeah. We
1:01:34
head in. Yeah. Oh, I got
1:01:36
it. I got the joke. That's
1:01:39
an old school. Old school. Slash.
1:01:41
Slash, slash, slash, back slash. Escape
1:01:43
the PFT literally just dropped like
1:01:46
it was actually I remember I
1:01:48
think I even remember my dad
1:01:50
saying that joke in like 1996
1:01:52
I still I still don't get
1:01:55
it slash like a knife oh
1:01:57
Inter slash slash slash back slash
1:01:59
escape got it got it got
1:02:01
it and it was it was
1:02:04
like one of the premier dad
1:02:06
jokes when the internet came along
1:02:08
and they're like how can we make
1:02:11
the OJ internet it was a big one
1:02:13
back day because it like the internet
1:02:15
was new too yeah so it's like
1:02:17
combining two very current things Jay Leno
1:02:19
got paid probably 40 million
1:02:21
dollars just for those jokes that
1:02:24
Monica Lewinsky Oh, he's got his,
1:02:26
uh, his student ID. That's a
1:02:28
Revel. Revel's got to be all
1:02:30
over this. Yeah, that's the
1:02:32
problem is, like, if we
1:02:34
get some, we just have to
1:02:37
understand that Revel is going to
1:02:39
have his pause on one of these
1:02:41
things. Yeah. Yeah. Also, it's kind of
1:02:44
fucked up to just be like, I
1:02:46
have OJ's golf bag, but
1:02:48
also kind of a statement
1:02:50
piece. Ran for two baseballs
1:02:52
back. Cubs opening days Tuesday
1:02:55
morning in Japan against the
1:02:57
Dodgers. I hate that so much. Did
1:02:59
you see the camera angle? No, show
1:03:01
me the camera angle. I'm gonna
1:03:03
be live streaming with Eddie Chief
1:03:05
and White Sox-Stavantitis at 5.10 in
1:03:08
the morning. So this camera angle,
1:03:10
it looks like it's a video
1:03:12
game. Don't laugh at me, Hank.
1:03:14
That's wild. What? I mean, it's first
1:03:17
first pitch of the Major League
1:03:19
Baseball season. Where's the camera
1:03:21
angle? Look
1:03:24
up
1:03:27
Dan's
1:03:30
B
1:03:33
camera
1:03:37
because
1:03:41
there's
1:03:46
a sick angle of
1:03:48
Dansyby Swanson. Just type
1:03:51
cubs. Oh wait, that
1:03:53
was fake. Was it? It looks fake, it's scary.
1:03:55
This one? That was my point. Oh
1:03:57
yeah, that's definitely fake. Yeah, it's a video
1:03:59
game. Yeah, that's what this is what
1:04:01
I saw This is what I saw This
1:04:03
is another camera. So we all
1:04:06
scroll past that and thought maybe it's
1:04:08
real. This is so very fake. Yes,
1:04:10
this is this is like MLB the
1:04:12
show. That's insanely fake. Yeah, it's the
1:04:14
show. Did you think that was
1:04:16
I scored past it very fast on
1:04:19
my phone? And I thought that's what
1:04:21
he was talking about with the
1:04:23
camera angle Got it. I think
1:04:25
it's real Look at the TV, Hank.
1:04:28
Look to the left of you. Look
1:04:30
to the left of you. You
1:04:32
think it's real, Hank? That
1:04:34
is MLB, this show. That's so
1:04:36
faking. It looks fake. You just
1:04:39
said it looks real. But it's
1:04:41
so high tech, I think. I
1:04:43
don't know. I don't know. Hank,
1:04:45
there's no way that you think
1:04:48
this is. Why would Barcelona Sports
1:04:50
Main tweeted that it was
1:04:52
real? I understand that that's why that's why I brought the point
1:04:55
up is because if this was real it's scary how weird it
1:04:57
looks And if it's not real, then I'm happy because society is
1:04:59
all right. Good, you're happy. By the way, I found a new...
1:05:01
It was a talking point. I'm happy I brought it up. Yeah.
1:05:03
We got to the bottom of it, maybe. I found a new
1:05:05
kind of guy online on Friday. It's very rare that you find
1:05:07
a new guy. But there's been like a conspiracy out there for
1:05:10
a while that sunscreen is actually what gives you cancer, not the
1:05:12
rays from the sun. But that's been out there for a long
1:05:14
time. That's been out there for a new. That's been out there
1:05:16
for a new. That's been out there for a new. That's been
1:05:18
out there for a new. That's been out. That's been out. That's
1:05:20
been out. That's been out. That's been out. That's been out. That's
1:05:22
been out there for a. That's been out there for a new. That's been
1:05:25
out. That's been out there. That's been out there. That's been out
1:05:27
there All right, this person
1:05:29
says look at the MLB tweet.
1:05:31
Okay. This says it's actual footage
1:05:33
from a different angle Fed
1:05:35
into AI which then creates
1:05:37
the highlight. Okay. So it
1:05:39
is fake. So it's like that
1:05:42
really happened But then they
1:05:44
make this angle via AI. This is
1:05:46
also my sources Rob Jay oh
1:05:48
eight who and it has four
1:05:50
likes on Twitter also x.com be
1:05:52
everything else all happening on it's
1:05:54
all happening on a We can't
1:05:56
get over this ridiculous replay from
1:05:58
the Tokyo Dome. doing is they're
1:06:01
taking real highlights and then they're
1:06:03
making it look more like video
1:06:05
games so that kids will watch
1:06:07
the highest hurting my brain that sucks
1:06:09
so I brought it up it's crazy is
1:06:12
a talking point okay my other who's back
1:06:14
is uh but wait wait I didn't tell
1:06:16
you about the new guy oh yeah so
1:06:18
the the sunscreen truth was they've been out
1:06:21
there for a while then I found guys
1:06:23
that think that actually this is
1:06:25
a different sun That we switched
1:06:27
the sun out like 40 years ago,
1:06:29
and it's the new sun. And it's
1:06:31
worse? And it's worse for you. I
1:06:34
have so many questions though. One, where
1:06:36
did we make the new sun? What
1:06:38
did we do with the old sun?
1:06:40
What year did we switch it out?
1:06:42
And how is that person able to
1:06:44
get through life without dying every
1:06:46
single day getting hit by a car?
1:06:49
This is good. So I got to do
1:06:51
some more research on the new sun
1:06:53
guys. Good conspiracy. Yeah, it's
1:06:55
very good. Then actually I completely
1:06:57
believe that Chernobyl was on
1:06:59
purpose. Okay. Yeah. For what reason? Everyone
1:07:02
was doing nuclear power plants and
1:07:04
Russia has a shitload of oil and
1:07:06
gas. And so they're like, hey, let's
1:07:08
blow up a nuclear power plant and scare
1:07:11
the fuck out of everyone about
1:07:13
nuclear energy. Oh, I like that.
1:07:15
And then everyone stopped doing nuclear
1:07:17
energy. Or inside job. Maybe we
1:07:19
sabotaged it. to fuck with Russia. But that
1:07:21
wouldn't make sense for us because then we
1:07:24
have to buy their gas. Yeah, it's true.
1:07:26
Yeah. But that's just, I like that
1:07:28
one. That one was just cut and dry.
1:07:30
I just saw one tweet and I was
1:07:32
like, yep, I'm in. All right, my
1:07:34
other who's back is Aaron Rogers playing games
1:07:37
because Aaron Rogers is apparently the Giants and
1:07:39
the Steelers are sitting and waiting for
1:07:41
Aaron Rogers to decide if he wants to
1:07:43
be Minnesota Viking. And I don't know if
1:07:45
the Vikings Vikings are also... I
1:07:48
don't know what the Vikings are, if
1:07:50
they're waiting for Aaron Rogers or they're
1:07:52
like, hey, we haven't offered you anything.
1:07:54
I think the Vikings want them. I
1:07:56
don't think that the Vikings love JJ. Why
1:07:59
wouldn't they love JJ? I don't know. But
1:08:01
it seems weird that they're waiting for
1:08:03
Aaron Rogers to make his decision. If
1:08:05
they were really that convinced that Jay-J
1:08:07
was their guy, right? I read it
1:08:10
as the Vikings that... Yeah, I don't
1:08:12
know. I don't know what's going to
1:08:14
end up happening. Oh, so it is
1:08:16
a real highlight. with AI. It's like,
1:08:18
the footage is AI. Apologize. No, it's
1:08:21
a real highlight that they were like,
1:08:23
if this looked like video games, then
1:08:25
kids would like watching it. So let's
1:08:27
just turn the real highlight into a
1:08:30
video game. Apologize. The angle is AI.
1:08:32
The footage is real. What does that
1:08:34
mean? Look at it. That is not
1:08:36
like a, look at the difference between
1:08:39
the two video. Yeah, and where would
1:08:41
be, there's no, there's no camera behind.
1:08:43
There's no camera behind Dansy Swans. It's
1:08:45
lags! The juror, like the middle of
1:08:47
his torso lags. It could just be
1:08:50
a super wide lens, super long lens.
1:08:52
Yeah, could be a super long lens.
1:08:54
Look at his belt. Look at his
1:08:56
belt when he does this little action.
1:08:59
Well, it's a grainy video like the,
1:09:01
oh yeah, no, it glist, it glist,
1:09:03
it glist, come on. That's the play
1:09:05
on top, it's the same play, but
1:09:08
it's not a real camera that shot
1:09:10
a real camera that shot that shot
1:09:12
that shot that shot that shot that
1:09:14
shot that. Correct. The big camera that's
1:09:16
over top of everything, it sees all
1:09:19
the movement, and then it feeds it
1:09:21
into a little processor, and it's like
1:09:23
here, the idiots like Hank out there
1:09:25
will like this highlight more if it
1:09:28
looks like we're playing the show. Well,
1:09:30
and when MLB the main account posts
1:09:32
this and it doesn't have the little
1:09:34
AI tag or anything, and it just
1:09:37
says, I can't believe this replay, why
1:09:39
would I not believe that it's a
1:09:41
real replay? I'm very sad for the
1:09:43
future of our society. Aaron Rogers, yeah,
1:09:45
I don't know. I don't know what
1:09:48
the Vikings are going to do. I
1:09:50
have a good offense line. They made
1:09:52
some good moves in the free agency.
1:09:54
I feel like he'd be good on
1:09:57
the Steelers. Steelers would be funny. Yeah,
1:09:59
loves Mike Tomlin. Let's make the Steelers
1:10:01
happen. Where do you want him to
1:10:03
go memes? Uh, I would like the
1:10:06
Giants because I predicted that. But the
1:10:08
Vikings for the Brett Farr of the
1:10:10
storyline. That's memes for you. And that
1:10:12
means the Jets are going on the
1:10:14
AFC championship. Oh, okay, got it. Good
1:10:17
point. Good point. Okay, let's, uh, Hank
1:10:19
is still looking at this highlight. Are
1:10:21
you okay, Hank? Yeah, I'm trying to
1:10:23
get some proof that it's not real,
1:10:26
but you guys are just... You
1:10:29
got what? Never mind. Okay. Let's get
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1:13:00
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1:13:02
are we gonna see you? Crazy schedule,
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Mom, with you guys tonight, which is
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awesome. It's a tradition, unlike any other.
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I'm gonna fly out to Ohio in
1:13:11
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1:13:14
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on Tuesday and Wednesday I think from
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Carolina, San Diego State and Xavier against
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going to do those games. So that's
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1:13:43
Marquette. That's a great state of Ohio
1:13:46
here coming up this week. So it's
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interesting you said that I like the
1:13:50
promo, it's maybe the best first four
1:13:53
in the history, the long vaunted history
1:13:55
of the first four. We got. and
1:13:57
see in there. And John, just put
1:13:59
a couple days ago, you were passionately
1:14:02
making your declaration that you and see
1:14:04
would not be in the first four.
1:14:06
What happened? What's going on with it?
1:14:09
Because I know that you talked to
1:14:11
Bubba Cunningham, the AD from UNC, so
1:14:13
what happened? This is one of the
1:14:15
biggest miscarriage of justices that I've seen
1:14:18
in all my years covering college basketball.
1:14:20
When you think right now about what
1:14:22
the criteria is to get teams into
1:14:25
the NCAA tournament, at the end of
1:14:27
the day, what is always going to
1:14:29
usurp everything is, who did you play?
1:14:31
Where did you play them? And did
1:14:34
you win? North Carolina was one in
1:14:36
12 against quad one opponents. That is
1:14:38
just a fact of life. And then
1:14:41
when you look at some of the
1:14:43
teams that were left out of the
1:14:45
bracket, the two that I'm looking at
1:14:47
specifically is West Virginia and Indiana. And
1:14:50
remember with North Carolina's resume, Carolina also
1:14:52
had a quad. three defeat on its
1:14:54
resume, which Indiana, who was left out
1:14:57
of the tournament in favor of North
1:14:59
Carolina, did not have. And if you're
1:15:01
looking at big wins right now, North
1:15:03
Carolina had won against the field. It
1:15:06
had the win against UCLA in the
1:15:08
CBS Sports Classic. Let's look at Indiana
1:15:10
head. And again, remember the Hoosiers had
1:15:13
no quad three and four losses. Indiana
1:15:15
won a road game at Michigan State.
1:15:17
In East Lansing, who was a two
1:15:20
C. C. Right. region, which I've named
1:15:22
the region of depth because of the
1:15:24
depth that exists with the Spartans, Auburn,
1:15:26
Texas A&M, and other programs in that
1:15:29
region, and Indiana also beat Purdue at
1:15:31
home. I don't understand how Carolina can
1:15:33
get in over Indiana if Indiana won
1:15:36
a game at Michigan State and beat
1:15:38
Purdue and doesn't have a quad three
1:15:40
or four loss, and Carolina does. But
1:15:42
what about West Virginia? beat Iowa State
1:15:45
at home of three seed. And West
1:15:47
Virginia on a neutral court, beat Arizona
1:15:49
State, and beat Gonzaga. This is one
1:15:52
of the biggest. miscarriage of justices that
1:15:54
i have seen in nearly twenty years
1:15:56
covering college basketball on the national level
1:15:58
now i will say this because north
1:16:01
carolina does not deserve to be in
1:16:03
the nc double a tournament that has
1:16:05
no bearing on what the tar heels
1:16:08
can do when they get into the
1:16:10
nc double a tournament and i'll give
1:16:12
you a perfect example fourteen years ago
1:16:14
I did not believe that VCU deserved
1:16:17
to be into the NCAA tournament. VCU
1:16:19
then started in the first four and
1:16:21
went all the way to the final
1:16:24
four under shock of smart. And VCU
1:16:26
in the regular season that year averaged
1:16:28
8.3 made three-point shots a game and
1:16:30
then May 12 in the NCAA tournament.
1:16:33
So what Carolina does moving forward has
1:16:35
no bearing on whether or not the
1:16:37
tar heels deserve to be in the
1:16:40
field. But my heart breaks for West
1:16:42
Virginia, it breaks for Indiana that North
1:16:44
Carolina... got this opportunity instead of them.
1:16:46
So you talked to Bubba Cunningham, the
1:16:49
AD from UNC. What was his explanation?
1:16:51
What did he say? Was he just
1:16:53
like, hey, wasn't my call? Did he
1:16:56
try to defend it? He was very
1:16:58
very clear that he was not involved
1:17:00
in obviously what was going on in
1:17:03
the room when North Carolina was brought
1:17:05
up but you guys know this as
1:17:07
well as I do. It always helps
1:17:09
to help out your friends and when
1:17:12
you're in a situation like this where
1:17:14
the committee chair is from North Carolina
1:17:16
it's obviously going to influence the other
1:17:19
committee members. Now I understand he can
1:17:21
leave the premises when a resume of
1:17:23
the tar heels is going to be
1:17:25
brought to the table but I'm sorry.
1:17:28
This again is the biggest miscarriage of
1:17:30
justice that I've seen in nearly 20
1:17:32
years covering college basketball at the national
1:17:35
level. My heart breaks for Darren DeVries
1:17:37
in West Virginia, my heart breaks for
1:17:39
Indiana and its fan base. But again,
1:17:41
North Carolina is going to get an
1:17:44
opportunity here in the first four to
1:17:46
do some major things in this bracket
1:17:48
if it can beat San Diego State
1:17:51
coming up here on Tuesday night. All
1:17:53
right, so I agree with everything you
1:17:55
said. It's crazy UNC got in. Relationships
1:17:57
matter. Bubber Cunningham can leave the room.
1:18:00
when he comes back in the room,
1:18:02
those are the people he's been sitting
1:18:04
with all weekend. That's, that has a
1:18:07
effect. Whether you want to say it's
1:18:09
subconscious, that's fine, but it has an
1:18:11
effect. I also don't understand the, it
1:18:13
feels like this bracket is just littered
1:18:16
with some weird decisions. Gonzaga's a top
1:18:18
10 team in Ken Palm, they're an
1:18:20
eight seed, and they're going up against,
1:18:23
what is it, Houston in the second
1:18:25
round if they win their first round
1:18:27
game. Auburn who's the number one overall
1:18:30
seed if Louisville wins their set first
1:18:32
round game Auburn has to play a
1:18:34
road game in their second game as
1:18:36
a number one overall seed Michigan was
1:18:39
the was a five seed I think
1:18:41
they got Miss seeded you had VCU
1:18:43
is is probably not an 11 seed
1:18:46
probably should have been higher than that
1:18:48
right like it's all over the map
1:18:50
where it feels like they just prey
1:18:52
and sprayed a lot of this stuff
1:18:55
and it doesn't really make sense you
1:18:57
have Colorado state is a three and
1:18:59
a half point favorite as a 12
1:19:02
seed over Memphis the five seed. Yeah,
1:19:05
it feels like in a lot of
1:19:07
areas of the bracket we did not
1:19:09
have a compass and there was no
1:19:11
rhyme or reason in a lot of
1:19:13
things that were going on I thought
1:19:15
for certain that Gonzaga would have been
1:19:18
better than an eight after it beat
1:19:20
St. Mary's in Las Vegas last week
1:19:22
in the WCC tournament But I'm with
1:19:24
you cat I think there's a lot
1:19:26
of different things that really stood out
1:19:29
here another thing that stood out to
1:19:31
me and I wasn't surprised about this
1:19:33
I felt with the way that the
1:19:35
selection committee had treated the mountain west
1:19:37
last last year by putting two teams
1:19:39
into the first foreign Dayton that Boise
1:19:42
State was vulnerable by not winning the
1:19:44
automatic qualifier on Saturday and that's what
1:19:46
came to fruition. Xavier had a pristine
1:19:48
resume in quad three and four and
1:19:50
Xavier also we have to remember lost
1:19:52
two games in December without Zach Fremantle
1:19:55
in the lineup who was a 17
1:19:57
and 7 guy at Yukon in overtime
1:19:59
and also by a to ask at
1:20:01
home against Marquette. As you guys know
1:20:03
as well as I do, and we
1:20:06
had heard this when we spoke to
1:20:08
Bubba Cunningham, I believe on Friday, player
1:20:10
availability matters in the NCAA tournament when
1:20:12
you're evaluating teams. If Xavier obviously is
1:20:14
gonna have Zach Freeman at the NCAA
1:20:16
tournament, which it will, it's gonna be
1:20:19
a much more formidable team. I think
1:20:21
that is one of the biggest reasons
1:20:23
why the musketeers are gonna hook up
1:20:25
here with. Texas in the first four
1:20:27
on Wednesday, and you guys know I've
1:20:30
been doing the first four now for
1:20:32
a number of years We have never
1:20:34
had Brands like this in the big
1:20:36
games in the first four in terms
1:20:38
of you know games on back-to-back nights
1:20:40
North Carolina and San Diego State have
1:20:43
appeared in two of the last three
1:20:45
national title games Xavier Xavier and get
1:20:47
this u d arena is 47 miles
1:20:49
away from the Syntas Center where Xavier
1:20:51
plays its home games. That's going to
1:20:54
be obviously a Xavier home game. And
1:20:56
Texas has a lottery pick in Trey
1:20:58
Johnson and it's Texas. Yeah. So I
1:21:00
think you know the brands in this
1:21:02
first four in terms of the Marquis
1:21:04
games are second to none. And I've
1:21:07
said this guys time and time again,
1:21:09
you know, the three of us haven't
1:21:11
really schmoozed about this, but I want
1:21:13
to put it out there right now.
1:21:15
You guys know how I feel about
1:21:17
NCAA tournament expansion. I've said for a
1:21:20
long time that Jeff Goldblum said in
1:21:22
the Lost World in 1997 that taking
1:21:24
dinosaurs off this island was the worst
1:21:26
idea in the history of long-said history
1:21:28
of bad ideas. Expanding the tournament will
1:21:31
be worse than that. But I do
1:21:33
think this, I think if you're good
1:21:35
enough to get an automatic qualifier to
1:21:37
the NCAA tournament, you deserve to partake
1:21:39
in the Thursday and Friday of the
1:21:41
first week. I think if we made
1:21:44
that shift and moved all a cues
1:21:46
to Thursday Friday and then put the
1:21:48
last eight at large teams in the
1:21:50
first four, it would reward these programs
1:21:52
again at the lower level and give
1:21:55
them the NCAA tournament experience of Thursday
1:21:57
Friday and also spruce up the way
1:21:59
we start the tournament with maybe four
1:22:01
bigger games instead of two. I like
1:22:03
that. I agree. I think we were
1:22:05
talking about expanding the tournament. We said
1:22:08
don't expand it. the way that it
1:22:10
is, but if you were, do it
1:22:12
that way, so you don't make the
1:22:14
automatic qualifiers play playing games on a
1:22:16
Tuesday or Wednesday. I got a question
1:22:18
for you, John, about the injury stuff.
1:22:21
T.J. Altsaburger announced after the bracket came
1:22:23
out that Kishon Gilbert is out for
1:22:25
Iowa State. Does, like, was that, that
1:22:27
was just a smart move by him
1:22:29
because do you think Iowa State would
1:22:32
have had a different seed if that
1:22:34
had been known to the committee going
1:22:36
into selection, you know, you know, you
1:22:38
know, because like, because like, There Iowa
1:22:40
State's playing yeah, it's very possible Yeah,
1:22:42
and like in Wisconsin has to go
1:22:45
all the way out to Denver Right,
1:22:47
you know, it's very possible that you
1:22:49
would go to a flip-flopped Iowa State
1:22:51
and Wisconsin if that information was made
1:22:53
privy to the committee before the selection
1:22:56
went out I remember it was 25
1:22:58
years ago now Cincinnati had the best
1:23:00
team in the country with Kenyon Martin
1:23:02
in 2000 and Kenny Martin broke his
1:23:04
leg in the conference USA tournament that
1:23:06
year and Cincinnati which had been dominant
1:23:09
all year long number one team consensus
1:23:11
in the country was dropped to the
1:23:13
two line And it was ridiculous and
1:23:15
Bob Huggin said it at the time,
1:23:17
but they were evaluating Cincinnati without Kenyon
1:23:20
Martin who wound up being the number
1:23:22
one player in the Ambied address. So
1:23:24
I totally agree with you on that
1:23:26
cat. Okay, so let's get to the
1:23:28
actual bracket. We got some other questions
1:23:30
that we'll ask you after, but let's
1:23:33
talk about the bracket. I know you
1:23:35
always break it down, so I kind
1:23:37
of will let you go whichever direction
1:23:39
you want to go. Tell us what
1:23:41
you've got. And yeah, go off. We'll
1:23:43
jump in where we'll jump in where
1:23:46
we'll jump in where we'll jump in
1:23:48
where we'll jump in where we'll jump
1:23:50
in where we'll jump in where we'll
1:23:52
jump in where we want to where
1:23:54
we want to where we want to
1:23:57
jump in where we want to jump
1:23:59
in where we want to jump in
1:24:01
where we want to jump in where
1:24:03
we want to jump in where we
1:24:05
want to jump in where we want
1:24:07
to jump in where we want to
1:24:10
jump in where we want to jump
1:24:12
in where we want to jump in
1:24:14
where we want All right, guys, well,
1:24:16
let's start right now on the top
1:24:18
left of your bracket, which is the
1:24:21
region of depth, the South region. Now,
1:24:23
why is it the region of depth?
1:24:25
I'm looking right now at these teams
1:24:27
at the top. Auburn, Michigan State, Texas
1:24:29
A&M, really deep rotations on all of
1:24:31
these teams, all of these teams can
1:24:34
really go into their bench. That's why
1:24:36
I like it to be the region
1:24:38
of depth. I obviously got Auburn coming
1:24:40
out of the top. I am going
1:24:42
to take Creaeton to beat Louisville at
1:24:45
Rup Arena the Rup arena. talk runner
1:24:47
factor. He's kind of like, and I
1:24:49
haven't really watched a hockey game in
1:24:51
probably 30 years, but wasn't Martin Brodore
1:24:53
that famous goalie for the Devils in
1:24:55
like the 90s? Yeah, he's kind of
1:24:58
like the Martin Brodore of like, you
1:25:00
know, the big East, you know, he's
1:25:02
kind of like the goalie because he's
1:25:04
so good defensively. Then I am going
1:25:06
to take Michigan to beat you see
1:25:08
San Diego who's going to be a
1:25:11
trendy upset pick and here. under James
1:25:13
Jones a program that beat Auburn last
1:25:15
year to pick off Texas A&M at
1:25:17
a 13-4 game in Denver remember Yale
1:25:19
beat Auburn last year beat Baylor in
1:25:22
2016 and then I think when you
1:25:24
look at the next part of the
1:25:26
bracket in this region of depth this
1:25:28
is Taylor made for Chris Beard to
1:25:30
really really go on a run right
1:25:32
here I felt all season long that
1:25:35
Olmas reminded me of some of the
1:25:37
teams that Chris Beard had a Texas
1:25:39
Tech I've got Olmus beating the winner
1:25:41
of San Diego State Carolina and then
1:25:43
beating a vulnerable Iowa State team without
1:25:46
Keith Gilbert. All miss to the Sweet
1:25:48
16. I'm gonna take Marquette to beat
1:25:50
New Mexico and Michigan State to beat
1:25:52
Marquette. To beat. Marquette to beat New
1:25:54
Mexico and Michigan State to beat Marquette.
1:25:56
So in the Sweet 16 here, I'm
1:25:59
gonna give you Auburn against the Michigan
1:26:01
State in a regional final Atlanta and
1:26:03
I've got Tomizzo getting back to the
1:26:05
final. is the most underrated coach in
1:26:07
America, right? I think he's the most
1:26:10
underrated coach in America. It amazes me
1:26:12
that James Jones has not gotten a
1:26:14
bigger job. He has won the Ivy
1:26:16
League multiple times in the last couple
1:26:18
years, as I mentioned, won a game
1:26:20
against Auburn last year in the NCAA
1:26:23
tournament, won a game against Auburn last
1:26:25
year in the NCAA tournament, won a
1:26:27
game against Baylor, And you think about
1:26:29
the dynamic right now for this team
1:26:31
that again is going into the NCAA
1:26:33
tournament as a trendy, trendy upset pick
1:26:36
potentially. Yale is in a scenario, okay,
1:26:38
where it lost Danny Wolf to Michigan
1:26:40
and it lost Matt Nolling. two U.S.C.
1:26:42
and it is still in the scenario
1:26:44
that it's in right now where it
1:26:47
made the NCAA tournament. That is a
1:26:49
credit to the head coach. A couple
1:26:51
of names you want to keep your
1:26:53
eye out for for Yale right now
1:26:55
as you're getting ready to think about
1:26:57
the NCAA tournament against Texas A&M. Nick
1:27:00
Townsend obviously a very, very burly forward
1:27:02
inside. He's going to have to hold
1:27:04
his own on the glass and then
1:27:06
John Pulakit is a dynamite, dynamite lefty
1:27:08
shooter can come off screens. He's. He
1:27:11
had 25 against Cornell in the title
1:27:13
game. and bang along with Casey Simmons.
1:27:15
Cat, you might remember from the Big
1:27:17
Ten, started his career at Northwestern before
1:27:19
he transferred the New Haven. Okay, and
1:27:21
then you got Tom Iso over Bruce
1:27:24
Pearl to get to the final four
1:27:26
there. What's your thought about Auburn right
1:27:28
now? What's your thought about Auburn right
1:27:30
now? Because they were dominant all year
1:27:32
long. You got Tom Iso over Bruce
1:27:34
Pearl to get to the final four
1:27:37
there. What's what's your thought about Auburn
1:27:39
right now because they were dominant. You
1:27:41
know, last year, Yukon was so removed
1:27:43
from the pack because it was a
1:27:45
two-year run that we may never see
1:27:48
again in our lifetimes in terms of
1:27:50
the level of dominance. 12 NCAA tournament
1:27:52
wins by an average of 21.7 points
1:27:54
per game. But we do not have
1:27:56
a team this year like Yukon. We
1:27:58
do not have a figure this year
1:28:01
like Zach Edie at Purdue last year
1:28:03
the only player since Ralph Sampson in
1:28:05
the in the 1980s to win obviously
1:28:07
national player the year awards in back-to-back
1:28:09
season So I think Auburn's a little
1:28:12
bit vulnerable right now. I do think
1:28:14
it's a big advantage for the Tigers
1:28:16
to be playing in Atlanta, which isn't
1:28:18
that far from the Auburn campus potentially
1:28:20
in the Sweet 16 But if Louisville
1:28:22
does beat Creton in the first round,
1:28:25
Auburn will have a pseudo road game
1:28:27
there at Ruporina, which is something to
1:28:29
monitor. Yeah. Okay, let's go west, where
1:28:31
Florida's the one seed, Florida's playing. probably
1:28:33
the best ball of anyone right now
1:28:36
of what they did in the SEC
1:28:38
tournament was incredible. What are we calling
1:28:40
the West? This is the region of
1:28:42
prestige because four coaches in this region,
1:28:44
Dan Hurley, Rick Patino, John Caliparian Bill
1:28:46
Selp have won national titles. Also, Florida...
1:28:49
The one seed in this region has
1:28:51
won multiple national titles in the last
1:28:53
20 years. So there's brand name power
1:28:55
in this region. I got Florida or
1:28:57
for Norfolk State. I got Yukon over
1:28:59
Oklahoma. Both coaches in that game Dan
1:29:02
Hurley and Porter Moser have been in
1:29:04
a situation where they've coached in a
1:29:06
final four in the last decade. Dan
1:29:08
Hurley's won two national titles. I'm taking
1:29:10
Neek Clifford in Colorado State over Memphis,
1:29:13
Maryland over Grand Canyon. Drake. started from
1:29:15
the bottom now that here in my
1:29:17
opinion has has for all intents and
1:29:19
purposes an interesting road here and I'm
1:29:21
gonna tell you why you got Missouri
1:29:23
and you got Ben McCollum who's really
1:29:26
looking like you know a bit of
1:29:28
a wizard At Drake, it wouldn't shock
1:29:30
me if next year he's coaching somewhere
1:29:32
in the Big Ten. He's got a
1:29:34
31 team with 4D2 transfers. One of
1:29:37
them, Mitch Miskari, has made 86 three-point
1:29:39
shots this year. If Drake beats Missouri,
1:29:41
Drake gets a vulnerable Texas tech team
1:29:43
in the round of 32. Now, why
1:29:45
are they vulnerable? Grant McCaslin told me
1:29:47
earlier on Sunday night that he expects
1:29:50
Chance McMillan and Darian Williams to play
1:29:52
in the first round against UNC Wilmington.
1:29:54
Those players didn't play in Texas Tech's
1:29:56
last big 12 tournament game due to
1:29:58
injuries So Texas Tech's a little bit
1:30:01
banged up. I think Drake is a
1:30:03
team with Ben McCollum if it can
1:30:05
get by Missouri That could maybe flirt
1:30:07
with a chance to go to the
1:30:09
sweet 16 and then how about the
1:30:11
lower part of that region in Providence?
1:30:14
Kansas and Arkansas Calipary against self two
1:30:16
coaches that coached against each other in
1:30:18
the title game in 2012 and in
1:30:20
St. John's on Omaha. Now look, you
1:30:22
guys understand media as well as anybody.
1:30:24
I work for CBS. I know how
1:30:27
much the program executives love to match
1:30:29
up certain games on Saturday nights and
1:30:31
going to 60 minutes. And look, whoever
1:30:33
St. John's plays on Saturday Night's, and
1:30:35
look, whoever St. John's plays on Saturday
1:30:38
night, it would be great. It would
1:30:40
be an incredible matchup of Hall of
1:30:42
Fame coaches. But if it's Calapary and
1:30:44
Patino, it would become. again appointment television
1:30:46
and it would be the third time
1:30:48
that these guys have met in the
1:30:51
NCAA tournament I believe yeah since 2012
1:30:53
and remember they also met in the
1:30:55
1996 final four now I've talked to
1:30:57
Rick Patino about this and I did
1:30:59
an interview with him when he was
1:31:02
at I own and he made a
1:31:04
joke about it but I think he
1:31:06
was telling the truth he said one
1:31:08
of the reasons why he came back
1:31:10
to college was to get John Gallapari
1:31:12
off his resume because if you think
1:31:15
about it these coaches each took three
1:31:17
different schools to a final four. So
1:31:19
that's another thing that is lying here
1:31:21
in the weeds right now. Rick Patino
1:31:23
is trying to get a fourth school
1:31:26
to a final four, but he might
1:31:28
have to go through John Calipari to
1:31:30
do it. It's going to be Calipari
1:31:32
yourself as long as St. John's gets
1:31:34
by Omaha. So I have Florida Yukon,
1:31:36
Colorado State, Maryland. Drake, Texas, Tech, and
1:31:39
then I'm going to go Arkansas, St.
1:31:41
John's. I've got St. John's against Drake
1:31:43
in the Sweet 16, and I've got
1:31:45
Florida against Maryland in the region of
1:31:47
prestige. I'm going Florida over St. John's
1:31:49
in a regional final. So on the
1:31:52
left side of the bracket, I've got
1:31:54
Michigan State against Florida, and ironically enough,
1:31:56
you know, I love good nuggets guys.
1:31:58
That would be a rematch of the
1:32:00
2000 national title game that Michigan State
1:32:03
won 8976 and Indianapolis. There we go.
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more John Rothstein what about in the
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east where we have Duke who Duke
1:33:08
is I said it before you came
1:33:10
on I think Duke's winning the whole
1:33:12
thing. They're just, they're so good. And
1:33:14
even without Cooper flag in the AC
1:33:17
tournament, they showed how good they are.
1:33:19
I think he's gonna be fine. He'll
1:33:21
come back and they're gonna roll through
1:33:23
everyone. Yeah, you know, guys, it's amazing.
1:33:25
And I think it speaks obviously how
1:33:28
talented Duke is, but it also speaks
1:33:30
to the state of the ACC right
1:33:32
now. Duke was able. to win the
1:33:34
ACC tournament and be Carolina and Louisville
1:33:36
in back-to-back days without Cooper Flat and
1:33:38
also without Malique Brown who, you know,
1:33:41
Duke Staff feels this way and I
1:33:43
know from being, you know, on Duke's
1:33:45
campus in the pre-season, he's like Emil
1:33:47
Jefferson was 10 years ago, not to
1:33:49
bring up bad memories there, Kat. But
1:33:52
I mean, you know what I'm saying
1:33:54
in terms of a versatile defender that
1:33:56
can be a factor defensively in that
1:33:58
rotation. Those two players don't play and
1:34:00
all of a sudden, we have a
1:34:02
scenario where... Duke is still beating Louisville
1:34:05
who is the second best team this
1:34:07
year of them in Clemson in the
1:34:09
ACC and North Carolina. That is not
1:34:11
obviously a great obviously ringing endorsement for
1:34:13
the ACC but for Duke it speaks
1:34:15
to their town level. I've got Duke
1:34:18
playing Mississippi State. I've got Oregon Arizona
1:34:20
which to me could be one of
1:34:22
the best games in the round of
1:34:24
32 these former back 12 rivals hooking
1:34:26
up. Yeah. Then I'm gonna take VCU
1:34:29
to beat BYU to hook up with
1:34:31
Wisconsin, the most aesthetically pleasing Wisconsin team
1:34:33
of our lifetime. Thank you. And then
1:34:35
I'm gonna be in Cleveland for these
1:34:37
games. So I'm pumped about this. I'm
1:34:39
taking St. Mary's to beat Vanderbilt. I'm
1:34:42
taking Alabama to beat Robert Morris. I've
1:34:44
got Duke Oregon, Wisconsin to the Sweet
1:34:46
16 to take on Alabama. And then
1:34:48
I'm going to take in a rematch.
1:34:50
of the 2015 national title A. Duke,
1:34:53
over Wisconsin in Newark to go to
1:34:55
the final four. That's the region of
1:34:57
firepower because Duke, Alabama, Wisconsin, Arizona, Oregon,
1:34:59
obviously explosive teams offensily. So much offense
1:35:01
in that region. So you got VCU
1:35:03
over B-Y-U, it sounds like you're not
1:35:06
a B-Y-U lever. Did you just come
1:35:08
on? I'm not. I just came up
1:35:10
with that. Have you ever heard of
1:35:12
that? If you want to use it?
1:35:14
Yeah, use that one. I like, I
1:35:17
like BIU. I think Kevin Young's done
1:35:19
an incredible job and I think they
1:35:21
got great pieces. But look, it's not
1:35:23
fun if you don't roll the dice
1:35:25
places in your bracket. The NCAA tournaments
1:35:27
in fun. So I'm looking right now
1:35:30
at the BIU VCU VCU matchup and
1:35:32
I know that we have seen. a
1:35:34
scenario where B.Y.U. has, you know, played
1:35:36
great basketball last couple of weeks and
1:35:38
wouldn't shock me if B.Y.U. wins a
1:35:40
couple games. But I'm looking at this,
1:35:43
V.C.U. is no 11 seed. And if
1:35:45
there was one thing that I would
1:35:47
say right now, the non-power conference teams,
1:35:49
after having a high volume of wins
1:35:51
during the regular season, V.C.U. with Maxchulga,
1:35:54
Zeb Jackson. Joe Bamaseel, all these guys,
1:35:56
okay, Philip Russell as well, has the
1:35:58
deepest perimeter in the Atlantic 10 since
1:36:00
Dan Hurley's last team at Rhode Island,
1:36:02
had Fats Russell, Jeff Doughton, Stan Robinson,
1:36:04
J.T. Terrell, E.C. Matthews and Jarvis Garrett.
1:36:07
That team you have to remember beat
1:36:09
Trey Young in Oklahoma in the NCAA
1:36:11
tournament and lost to Marvin Bagley and
1:36:13
Duke in 2018. This VCU team is
1:36:15
for real and also another player on
1:36:18
VCU. Jack Clark was a part of
1:36:20
the Clemson team last year that went
1:36:22
to the elite eight and lost to
1:36:24
Alabama. VCU is the best VCU team
1:36:26
since we saw Briante Weber and Company
1:36:28
lose to Stephen have Austin in 2014.
1:36:31
John, when you're rattling off all these
1:36:33
names from old teams, do you ever
1:36:35
just think about making up a name
1:36:37
and tossing it in there, see if
1:36:39
you get called on it? I would
1:36:42
do that if I were you. It's
1:36:44
an interesting proposition, it never crossed my
1:36:46
mind. I just go to the internal
1:36:48
hard drive and I just keep it
1:36:50
moving. Just like if you're thinking of
1:36:52
an A10 team from 2006, just tossing
1:36:55
the name, I don't know, like Tommy
1:36:57
Spannonati. You know me though PFT and
1:36:59
your America's drinking buddy for a reason
1:37:01
I pride myself on being as accurate
1:37:03
and as thorough as possible So I
1:37:05
feel like I'd be shortchanging the beat
1:37:08
if I did that. That is true.
1:37:10
So I have a question for you
1:37:12
because you are plugged in John Yeah,
1:37:14
and that's not a robot comment. You're
1:37:16
plugged in you talked a lot of
1:37:19
people Grant Nelson from Alabama Yeah, what
1:37:21
are we hearing about him because I
1:37:23
think Alabama is a good team? You
1:37:25
know, I would still take them in
1:37:27
the first two games. What are you
1:37:29
hearing about? It's his knee, right? Yeah,
1:37:32
I have an update for you. I
1:37:34
had a bunch of injury updates earlier,
1:37:36
so I'm gonna just read you exactly
1:37:38
what I tweeted. And in NATO, it's
1:37:40
texting me this in the early afternoon,
1:37:43
but I want to give you guys
1:37:45
the full reports. I have a couple
1:37:47
of injury updates of substance for the
1:37:49
NCAA tournaments. You guys just let me
1:37:51
know what you want. Yeah. So Grant
1:37:53
Nelson's going to see a knee specialist
1:37:56
on Monday. And then, you know, as
1:37:58
I told you, like Alabama plays Robert
1:38:00
Morris in Cleveland, that's one to monitor
1:38:02
some other stuff from Sunday. And this
1:38:04
is big for the first four. Brian
1:38:07
Duchar told me that Magoon Guoff, the
1:38:09
Mountain West freshman and defensive player of
1:38:11
the year, is gonna be available for
1:38:13
the NCAA tournament. So in the first
1:38:15
four Tuesday night, Magoon Guoff will be
1:38:17
available to play against North Carolina. He
1:38:20
hasn't played since February 22nd. That's a
1:38:22
big boost for San Diego State. Mark
1:38:24
Pope also told me earlier on Sunday
1:38:26
morning that Lamont Butler will be available
1:38:28
for Kentucky's first NCAA tournament game. He's
1:38:30
been dealing with a shoulder and John
1:38:33
Calipari has told me that a due
1:38:35
thero is doubtful for the Kansas game
1:38:37
due to the knee injury he has
1:38:39
been dealing with. He hasn't played since
1:38:41
February 22nd, but Boogie planned we thought
1:38:44
was out for the season, came back
1:38:46
on Sunday to practice. went through practice,
1:38:48
had no missteps, he should be fine.
1:38:50
I was referencing the Missouri Drake game.
1:38:52
According to a school spokesman, Mark Mitchell
1:38:54
for Missouri is expected to be fully
1:38:57
available for that basketball game against Drake
1:38:59
and the round of 64. A note
1:39:01
from Scott Drew, Langston Love is expected
1:39:03
to be available against Mississippi State in
1:39:05
the East Region. He averages just over
1:39:08
eight points per game. another nugget for
1:39:10
a number one seed. Calvin Samson told
1:39:12
me that Jay, Jay, Ron Roberts, who
1:39:14
did not play at the end of
1:39:16
the Big 12 tournament due to an
1:39:18
ankle injury. There's, they're obviously veteran leader,
1:39:21
is receiving treatment. He'll be reevaluated on
1:39:23
Monday in terms of his status for
1:39:25
the Cougars first game. Which make, I
1:39:27
just want to make sure I don't
1:39:29
leave anything out there. But those are
1:39:31
the bullet points as an hour. Every
1:39:34
single one I believe I mean I
1:39:36
do what I do is I kind
1:39:38
of like when I get back from
1:39:40
the final four like use April to
1:39:42
detox a little bit and then you
1:39:45
just you spend some time over the
1:39:47
summer just making sure your Rolex is
1:39:49
on point and everything is on point
1:39:51
and then you know you just go.
1:39:53
You know you make sure you're locked
1:39:55
in. Yeah how often do you text
1:39:58
these guys? I would say probably. Let
1:40:01
me think. I mean, I think it's
1:40:03
pretty, I have daily communication. So it's
1:40:05
like, I would say with every staff,
1:40:07
there's daily communication. It might just be
1:40:09
for an injury update. It might be
1:40:11
like, what is the key to this
1:40:13
game? On game days, I like to
1:40:15
follow up if a team, because if
1:40:17
I'm in the studio, I like to
1:40:19
have obviously, you know, nuggets on what
1:40:21
they think keys to the game are
1:40:23
or trends to watch, because when you're
1:40:25
trying to, as somebody who's a non
1:40:27
player or a non-player or coach, get
1:40:29
the insight, of the player of you
1:40:31
know the teams that I'm covering from
1:40:33
their perspective so it's constant communication in
1:40:35
the off seasons constant communication as well
1:40:37
because there's thing to cover during the
1:40:39
off season yeah I like yeah because
1:40:42
I mean I read the article in
1:40:44
New York Times it was great that
1:40:46
said that the Ross team Texas inside
1:40:48
joke in the industry now I feel
1:40:50
like they're being disrespectful to you with
1:40:52
that No, I mean, look, I mean,
1:40:54
you guys know me now for a
1:40:56
number of years. I mean, I don't
1:40:58
make any bones about this. You know,
1:41:00
I did not have any connections in
1:41:02
this industry. You know, I have no
1:41:04
inheritance, so I don't have any other
1:41:06
choice but to work as hard as
1:41:08
I can each and every single day
1:41:10
to be as thorough as I can
1:41:12
to do the best job I can,
1:41:14
and I'm never going to happen. Yeah,
1:41:16
the world meets nobody halfway. And you
1:41:18
know that because you told me that
1:41:20
you thought over the top was an
1:41:22
underrated movie by Stallone. That is, it's
1:41:24
facts. Yeah, no, you are, you are,
1:41:26
I love the article because I, there
1:41:28
were some things I didn't even know,
1:41:30
like that you basically bought time on
1:41:33
a radio station that had no one
1:41:35
listening to it just to get reps.
1:41:37
Yes. Really, an awesome story of how
1:41:39
to work your way up through the
1:41:41
industry. And the other nugget I had
1:41:43
from it from it was, you get
1:41:45
your haircut every Sunday. Every Sunday, yeah,
1:41:47
at 10 a.m. That's an outstanding appointment.
1:41:49
An out of season. Yes, just if
1:41:51
I follow as long as I'm home,
1:41:53
as long as I'm home, 10 a.m.
1:41:55
every Sunday, a creature happens. So what
1:41:57
do you do when you're on the
1:41:59
road? On the road this week, because
1:42:01
I'm leaving Monday, and obviously I couldn't
1:42:03
do it, selection Sunday, I got Thursday,
1:42:05
and I said just go a little
1:42:07
shorter on the sides, because I'm not
1:42:09
going to be back in New York,
1:42:11
back in New York, a week, you
1:42:13
know, a week from now, because I'm
1:42:15
going to Dayton and then we're going
1:42:17
up to Cleveland and those first and
1:42:19
second round games are Friday, Sunday, but
1:42:22
I want to tell you guys something
1:42:24
if I can backtrack a little bit,
1:42:26
because I know you guys obviously started
1:42:28
out with humble beginnings too. That experience
1:42:30
of selling air time. was the most
1:42:32
humbling experience that I ever had in
1:42:34
my life because at that time I
1:42:36
was making like $13 an hour screening
1:42:38
calls and doing reporting at ESPN Radio
1:42:40
New York. I was cold calling for
1:42:42
my friends brothers mortgage company like Glenn
1:42:44
Gary Glenn Ross. that was like what
1:42:46
I was living and just cold calling
1:42:48
people out of the yellow pages and
1:42:50
I was like making $50 an article
1:42:52
writing college basketball for different publications so
1:42:54
I knew though I needed like a
1:42:56
demo to try and have an opportunity
1:42:58
so I would like walk up and
1:43:00
down neuroshell going into businesses trying to
1:43:02
buy airtime and nobody would buy anything
1:43:04
and I remember talking to a guy
1:43:06
in a car dealership and this is
1:43:08
like probably 20 years ago and I
1:43:11
said well you if I do a
1:43:13
weekly show you know, will you buy
1:43:15
some maritime? And he goes, well, is
1:43:17
Joe Torrey a weekly guest? And I
1:43:19
didn't know who that was at the
1:43:21
time. And then he was like, he's
1:43:23
like, well, if Joe Torrey's not a
1:43:25
weekly guest, then I'm not doing it.
1:43:27
Oh, man. It was that moment where
1:43:29
I was just like, look, I'm not
1:43:31
going to become. anything in his business
1:43:33
unless I have calluses and I'm getting
1:43:35
calluses right now but that also brought
1:43:37
me back to the over-the-top thing you
1:43:39
know the world meets nobody halfway yeah
1:43:41
no it's very cool and it's it's
1:43:43
a very cool story and I think
1:43:45
people should go read it because it
1:43:47
gives kind of a backstory of like
1:43:49
hey John Rothstein has has done it
1:43:51
the hard way you know people don't
1:43:53
people need to respect that because it's
1:43:55
very hard business to to break into
1:43:57
and you weren't a coach you weren't
1:44:00
a player and to get into it
1:44:02
is is is awesome Well, another thing
1:44:04
too, and you guys know I have
1:44:06
a passion for this, but you know,
1:44:08
when, in my 20s, when like people
1:44:10
that I was close with in New
1:44:12
York and friends like that were taking
1:44:14
vacations and traveling, I went to AAU
1:44:16
tournaments and networked. That's what I would
1:44:18
do. Like I would sit with Dan
1:44:20
Hurley when he was at Wagner and,
1:44:22
you know, build a relationship. I would
1:44:24
sit with Bill's self. I drove once.
1:44:26
I remember to Virginia, there was this
1:44:28
big tournament down there, Boo Williams, and
1:44:30
I drove those like seven hours each
1:44:32
way, and I just went, I like
1:44:34
made business cards of Kinko's, and I
1:44:36
just went and just networked and networked
1:44:38
network. And you know, I feel like,
1:44:40
you know, when that is your backbone
1:44:42
every single day, you owe it to
1:44:44
yourself, but most of all, you owe
1:44:46
it to your bosses who continued to
1:44:49
give you these great assignments to give
1:44:51
everybody ever the best you can every
1:44:53
single day. Now I do want to
1:44:55
because I feel like we're close share
1:44:57
something personal with you. Two things personal.
1:44:59
But um I switched recently I was
1:45:01
kind of pressured I had a little
1:45:03
crisis and I don't know if you
1:45:05
notice this when we were texting earlier
1:45:07
but it was probably I have I've
1:45:09
had dreams and I will admit this
1:45:11
to you guys probably I've had dreams
1:45:13
because like of how much my life
1:45:15
revolves around my phone and I need
1:45:17
it like the machine rolling. I've had
1:45:19
dreams that I've been at a pool
1:45:21
party. and I jump and do like
1:45:23
a cannonball and my phones on me.
1:45:25
And it's like nightmares and I wake
1:45:27
up and I'm like, I didn't do
1:45:29
that. So a couple of weeks ago,
1:45:31
you guys know I've been a droid
1:45:33
guy my entire life. Yeah. Like there's
1:45:35
like twice a year. There's like something
1:45:38
that happens where there's like something that
1:45:40
happens where there's like an iOS upgrade
1:45:42
and droid people can't text iPhones. And
1:45:44
you start to flip out so one
1:45:46
day I just ripped the band-aid off
1:45:48
and now I'm team blue bubbles Yeah,
1:45:50
I'm adjusting to it. Yeah, I'm adjusting
1:45:52
to it So that I thought was
1:45:54
a life alternate experience the day after
1:45:56
I switched to an iPhone was either
1:45:58
day or week after Yeah, and yeah,
1:46:00
and when they the countries talk about
1:46:02
the Roth scene text I bet they're
1:46:04
happier to get the text now. That's
1:46:06
a blue bubble That's what I'm saying.
1:46:08
So but then it get then get
1:46:10
this this this this was another thing
1:46:12
that happened So I and you guys
1:46:14
you guys know how sometimes like I'll
1:46:16
tweet in the spring It's like in
1:46:18
April or May like I hate you
1:46:20
pollen. Yeah, I've tweeted that in the
1:46:22
past Last year. I was having a
1:46:24
bad deal with allergies You know, I
1:46:27
just said to myself, should I get
1:46:29
allergy shots? And I went and investigated
1:46:31
with my local allergist and they said,
1:46:33
you can do 32 rounds of shots
1:46:35
and you should be 80% immune. And
1:46:37
I was like, I don't want to
1:46:39
get back from the final four when
1:46:41
everything's over and have to deal with
1:46:43
allergies. I'm sick of dealing with allergies.
1:46:45
So there's 32 rounds of shots to
1:46:47
be done with it. So I get
1:46:49
through 30 rounds of shots, okay? This
1:46:51
is like, maybe two weeks ago. I
1:46:53
started having this weird reaction, like I'm
1:46:55
Jack Nicholson and something's got to give.
1:46:57
I'm sitting on a stoop and I'm
1:46:59
sweating. I go back to the doctor's
1:47:01
office, I start throwing up, they give
1:47:03
me two shots of an epipen to
1:47:05
calm me down. And I just remember
1:47:07
like my life was flashing in front
1:47:09
of my eyes, but I said, I
1:47:11
remember I said to these people, I
1:47:13
thought it was crazy, I said, I'm
1:47:15
not going before March. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:47:18
smart. I can't. I said, if you
1:47:20
want to take me, take me on
1:47:22
April 10th. Don't take me now. Yeah,
1:47:24
we die in May. Exactly. Yeah, Dust,
1:47:26
another victim claimed by Dusty May. Correct.
1:47:28
Exactly. There was another part of the
1:47:30
article that I loved, and it talks
1:47:32
about your wife, and she said, when
1:47:34
it gets to March, he will literally
1:47:36
walk around our place and repeat, this
1:47:38
is March, this is March, I'm like,
1:47:40
I know it's March, just say it
1:47:42
in your head. Just say it in
1:47:44
your head. Probably 10 to 15, especially
1:47:46
when the TV's on and like you're
1:47:48
just soaking everything in and you see
1:47:50
close finishes, you see crazy upsets. I
1:47:52
mean, it's a part of the fabric
1:47:54
of college basketball. It's definitely a big
1:47:56
part of my life. And the thing
1:47:58
that's so humbling is like a takeaway
1:48:00
I've gone from that article in some
1:48:02
of a very prominent media reporter reached
1:48:04
out to me. It's like, I'd like
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All right back to the bracket Midwest
1:48:37
that was great John Midwest last one.
1:48:39
Okay this is the region of toughness.
1:48:41
Okay think about guys the coaches. in
1:48:43
the scowling that is that is involved
1:48:45
in this region. Kelvin, Sampson, Houston, Rick
1:48:47
Barnes, Tennessee, Mick Cronin, UCLA, Brad Underwood,
1:48:49
at Illinois. This is a dynamite region.
1:48:51
I've got Houston, I've got Gonzaga beaten
1:48:53
Georgia, I've got McNeese, coached by Will
1:48:56
Wade. beating his alma mater Clemson in
1:48:58
the 12-5. Remember, Will Wade was a
1:49:00
student manager at Clemson before he got
1:49:02
in the coaching. That's my 12-5. I
1:49:04
got Purdue over High Point. I've got
1:49:06
Illinois over the Texas Xavier winner, Kentucky,
1:49:08
UCLA in Tennessee. Then we're going bottom.
1:49:10
I got Houston against Purdue, and then
1:49:12
I'm going to take Illinois. against Tennessee
1:49:14
in the Sweet 16 and I'm going
1:49:16
to take Illinois against Houston in the
1:49:18
elite eight and I got Houston going
1:49:20
on the final four so I got
1:49:22
Houston against Duke on one side Houston
1:49:24
comes out of the region to toughness
1:49:26
on the other side I've got Michigan
1:49:28
State in Florida and I got Houston
1:49:30
finally breaking through under Kelvin Samson and
1:49:32
winning the national championship. Calvin Samson again
1:49:34
I've said it before this is why
1:49:36
Houston basketball's nickname is no mercy. He
1:49:38
reminds me a lot. of the sensei
1:49:40
and karate kid John creece. You know,
1:49:42
with just, you know, remember when he
1:49:45
said strike first, strike hard, no mercy,
1:49:47
sir. That's what Calvin Sampson reminds me
1:49:49
of. He's like the Sam, he's a
1:49:51
much, you know, kinder man than, you
1:49:53
know, Martin Koval was in the karate
1:49:55
kid, but he has that same type
1:49:57
of fierce kind of presence. Does that
1:49:59
guy win? kid? He doesn't win
1:50:01
and if you remember at the start
1:50:03
of karate kid too he'd be his
1:50:05
knuckles bleed because he punches them through
1:50:08
a car when he gets in a
1:50:10
fight with Mr. Miyagi. Yeah that guy
1:50:12
rocks. So yeah you mentioned Will Wade
1:50:14
we were actually just talking about Will
1:50:16
Wade earlier today. Will Wade any chance
1:50:19
if you're Villanova any chance you're picking
1:50:21
up with the phone giving Will Way
1:50:23
to call? I don't think Villanova is the
1:50:25
school to give Will Way to call but
1:50:27
I will say this. And there's many
1:50:30
programs that are coached by them
1:50:32
now in the NCAA tournament. And
1:50:34
those programs are thriving. Yeah. Bruce
1:50:36
Beard at all miss. Rick Patino at
1:50:38
St. John's, Bruce Pearl at Auburn, Calvin
1:50:41
Sampson at Houston. The school
1:50:43
that hires Will Wade is going to be
1:50:45
the school that falls next in that
1:50:47
line. Yeah. Think about this. Here's a
1:50:49
couple of things on Will Wade I
1:50:51
was thinking about. I talked about it
1:50:53
tonight on our show. Will Wade is the only
1:50:56
coach in shock is smart to win an
1:50:58
NCAA tournament game at BCU. Will Wade won
1:51:00
the SEC regular season title at LSU and
1:51:02
will wait since he took the McNeese job
1:51:04
in two years is 57 and 10. I
1:51:06
know that things were very sloppy at LSU,
1:51:08
but a lot of those things are legal
1:51:10
right now. Right. So the school that hires
1:51:12
them is going to be on upward trajectory
1:51:14
moving forward and then I'm going to have
1:51:16
to come up with a new tagline for
1:51:18
him. Yeah, I mean all this stuff that
1:51:20
he got in trouble for is stuff that
1:51:22
is actually legal and it's an advantage if
1:51:24
your coach can do those things well. Right
1:51:26
now. Yeah, that guy. He's a star. Yeah.
1:51:28
Amir Khan is a star. Yeah. Yeah. Good
1:51:30
vibe from him. So you have Houston
1:51:33
over Illinois. You got Illinois over
1:51:35
Tennessee. Talk me through that one. You
1:51:37
know, I did on Thanksgiving Day,
1:51:39
you know, CBS Sports had a,
1:51:41
we have a Thanksgiving game, game
1:51:43
now after the NFL. Next year
1:51:46
it's going to be Arkansas and Duke
1:51:48
in Chicago, which maybe you guys can
1:51:50
go to. I don't know if you
1:51:52
want to do it on Thanksgiving.
1:51:55
But it's. did the game with Ian Eagle
1:51:57
and Bill Raftery, you know, in Kansas City,
1:51:59
and I... saw Illinois up close and when
1:52:01
everything is equal on a neutral court and
1:52:03
cat I know you know this because you
1:52:06
know the Big Ten so well Illinois has
1:52:08
final four talent when things are clicking with
1:52:10
the Akachonas with Eva Sich there's obviously
1:52:12
great role players and ancillary pieces around those
1:52:15
guys with Boswell Will Riley I talked to
1:52:17
Brad Underwood last week he loves the
1:52:19
way Will Riley has been playing you know
1:52:21
the last couple of weeks and this
1:52:23
is the thing too you got to like
1:52:25
when you're looking at Illinois Because
1:52:28
of Evasich's ability to stretch
1:52:30
things from the five spot, it's
1:52:32
very difficult, and this is what killed
1:52:34
Arkansas on that game on Thanksgiving, it's
1:52:36
very difficult to play a traditional five
1:52:39
man against them because they can extend
1:52:41
the defense so much with Evasich. He
1:52:43
reminds me a lot. This is a
1:52:46
throwback comparison. He reminds me a lot
1:52:48
of Ray Flafrens. Ooh, I like that,
1:52:50
Kansas. So much Ray Flafrens in Tomislav,
1:52:52
Evisage. Yeah, no, Illinois is, like, I
1:52:55
was saying when we were talking about
1:52:57
the bracket before you came on, I
1:52:59
want to see Illinois, Kentucky, because those
1:53:02
two teams, when they hit their ceiling,
1:53:04
it's incredible basketball, they have had
1:53:06
floors that we've seen as well,
1:53:08
and it's been bad. but both
1:53:10
those teams have insane firepower and
1:53:12
I agree Illinois is they're very
1:53:15
volatile but if it's good it's
1:53:17
great it's great and you bring
1:53:19
up a great point because a
1:53:21
potential Illinois Kentucky game in the
1:53:23
round of 32 would be like
1:53:25
a regional final but guys I've
1:53:27
always felt that the round of
1:53:29
32 is the most intriguing round of
1:53:31
the NCAA tournament because you
1:53:34
are going to get in some
1:53:36
cases the dreamer having a chance
1:53:38
to dream the dream for another
1:53:40
week, or you are going to
1:53:42
get a massive showdown of powerful
1:53:44
programs. Look, we could have in
1:53:46
the region of toughness, you could
1:53:48
have Houston, Gonzaga, Purdue, Kentucky, or
1:53:50
Texas, or Xavier against Kentucky, and
1:53:52
then UCLA against Tennessee. If we
1:53:54
saw any one of those matchups
1:53:57
in an elite or a final
1:53:59
board, probably... Yeah, yeah, you're right. I
1:54:01
mean, just the Houston and Zagel one
1:54:03
is crazy. That could be a second
1:54:05
round matchup. So can you give us
1:54:08
some names of guys that that we're
1:54:10
going to want to get to know
1:54:12
from orch? Like guys that have
1:54:14
the potential to take over this
1:54:16
tournament and become household names. How
1:54:18
deep do you want to go?
1:54:21
Do you want power conference names?
1:54:23
Do you want me to get really
1:54:25
in the weeds here? Let's just give
1:54:27
me like two names per bracket. from
1:54:29
New Mexico is one of the great
1:54:31
point guards in college basketball. That is
1:54:33
somebody you want to put on your
1:54:35
radar for sure. Ole Miss has a
1:54:38
couple of players, Sean Padula, a terrific
1:54:40
veteran point guard, a transit from Virginia
1:54:42
Tech. Also, John Pulekidis, I told you
1:54:44
from Yale. We go down to the
1:54:46
region of prestige right now. A couple
1:54:48
of guys again who are off the
1:54:50
radar, I'm trying to come up with.
1:54:52
Bennet Sterts at Drake. Who's kind
1:54:55
of the Mistro for them. Also, Neat
1:54:57
Clifford from Colorado State, who has been
1:54:59
part of this incredible surge by Colorado
1:55:01
State. He has been elites playing like
1:55:03
one of the top 15 or 20
1:55:05
players in the country over the last
1:55:08
couple of weeks. I will also point
1:55:10
out in the Yukon Oklahoma game, Jeremiah
1:55:12
Fiers, the freshman point guard for Oklahoma,
1:55:14
the brother of Michigan State's Jeremy Fiers,
1:55:16
is a name to watch. And then
1:55:18
as we looked right now in your
1:55:21
top right, the region of Fire Power.
1:55:23
I'm going to give you one
1:55:25
for Mississippi State Josh Hubbard,
1:55:27
an electrifying yard. Plus Oregon.
1:55:30
You've got Jackson Shelstad and
1:55:32
Nate Biddle. Max Shulga at
1:55:34
VCU. Ritchie Saunders at B.Y.U.
1:55:36
At St. Mary's, Augustus Marshall
1:55:38
Lones is the least talked
1:55:40
about back-to-back conference player the
1:55:42
year. We may have in
1:55:45
history. He's won the award
1:55:47
in the WCC in back-to-back
1:55:49
seasons. Ryan Emhard, we know
1:55:51
from Gonzaga. For Georgia, a
1:55:53
talented player, Asenoul who's
1:55:55
a good freshman. Ryan Conwell
1:55:58
at Xavier is like a
1:56:00
poor man's Michael Red. He will be
1:56:02
in the first four Wednesday night in
1:56:04
the Xavier, Texas game. And then I'm
1:56:06
gonna say, I mean, UCLA, I mean,
1:56:08
you don't really get in the weeds
1:56:10
here too much, but I mean, a
1:56:12
UCLA, Eric Daley and Tyler Bilido, I
1:56:14
would say, are two names there. Okay,
1:56:16
love it. All right, well, John, I
1:56:18
got one last question for you. This
1:56:21
is been awesome. We love having it
1:56:23
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1:56:33
be Tuesday and Wednesday and Dayton, then
1:56:35
he's going up to Cleveland, we're gonna
1:56:37
see him on the broadcast, can't wait
1:56:39
for it. I saw you dropped a
1:56:41
new roastingism, and I had a question
1:56:44
about it. The new one is Todd
1:56:46
Golden is to Florida basketball, what Mark
1:56:48
Zuckerberg was to Facebook in the social
1:56:50
network. They both built monsters monsters. and
1:56:52
Golden's looks like it can win the
1:56:54
whole damn thing. You know, like, Mark
1:56:56
Zuckerberg's a real person. Social network is
1:56:58
his life. Right, I know, I know
1:57:00
that, but in terms of like, Todd
1:57:02
was always this guy and like, I'll
1:57:05
just, I talked about this with Bruce
1:57:07
Pearl on our show tonight. When Bruce
1:57:09
Pearl first got the Auburn job, you
1:57:11
know, I went down to a practice
1:57:13
and we went out to eat after
1:57:15
and like, Todd was this guy who
1:57:17
wasn't even like an assistant coach on
1:57:19
the staff, as like this prodigy and
1:57:21
he had this incredible mind for basketball
1:57:23
and he had these unique ways to
1:57:25
evaluate and he was always kind of
1:57:28
ahead of things with the analytics and
1:57:30
he used that you know he had
1:57:32
that team at San Francisco a couple
1:57:34
years ago that went to the tournament
1:57:36
and you know gotten that large bit
1:57:38
and now he's doing incredible things to
1:57:40
Florida and guys I want to say
1:57:42
this because Todd Golden I had my
1:57:44
top five for national coach of the
1:57:46
year and this is not to disparage
1:57:49
him at all as a coach but
1:57:51
obviously he's still so young. If Billy
1:57:53
Donovan was coaching this Florida team with
1:57:55
the way we're playing, Florida would be
1:57:57
universally viewed as the favorite to win
1:57:59
the next. championship and it wouldn't be
1:58:01
close but Todd knows he's got to
1:58:03
prove it in the NCAA tournament but
1:58:05
Florida is ripping through college basketball right
1:58:07
now like a chainsaw through butter. But
1:58:09
I think Big Cat's point still stands
1:58:12
though which is Mark Zuckerberg is he's
1:58:14
a person. He's a real person. Not
1:58:16
like outside of the movie. The movie
1:58:18
was about Mark Zuckerberg but you can
1:58:20
just say Mark Zuckerberg. Okay, I appreciate
1:58:22
the amendment, but you guys know part
1:58:24
of like what gives me balance is
1:58:26
when I get through the final foreign
1:58:28
things to a little quieter I love
1:58:30
having like a Pironi and a Bola
1:58:33
Terralleys and watching these old movies that
1:58:35
I've watched 15 to 20 times sometimes
1:58:37
more the social network is in that
1:58:39
rotation. Okay, yeah, but he is a
1:58:41
real person. What about the Rothschenism I
1:58:43
suggest? I know that you don't take
1:58:45
you don't take submissions for Rothschenisms, but
1:58:47
Danny Hurley, drinking drinking piss, that's a
1:58:49
really good one. Yeah,
1:58:51
I don't know man you said one
1:58:53
a couple of years ago like for
1:58:55
Wake Forest like run for us run
1:58:57
like we had to kind of put
1:59:00
that into the lead files You think
1:59:02
that's good? Yeah, it fits in with
1:59:04
your thing. It's like old movies Roth's
1:59:06
theism can't be forced. I know I
1:59:08
know I can't be forced Okay, well,
1:59:10
I know I can't be forced. I
1:59:12
have one last last question for you
1:59:14
John some people have accused you know
1:59:16
you're an insider you know you're an
1:59:18
insider you work on media you're in
1:59:20
media but you're in media but you're
1:59:22
in media but you're in media but
1:59:24
you're in media but you know you're
1:59:26
not you're in media but you're not
1:59:28
you're in media but you're in media
1:59:30
but you're not you're in media but
1:59:32
you know you're not you're in media
1:59:34
but you're in media but you're not
1:59:36
you're in media but you're in media
1:59:38
but you're in media but you're not
1:59:40
you're like you're in media but you're
1:59:42
a media but you're not you Can
1:59:44
you describe? Can you describe a flare
1:59:46
screen to us? Sure. Well, let's just
1:59:48
use Wisconsin as an example because that's
1:59:50
obviously, you know, some common ground for
1:59:52
us right here. So a flare screen
1:59:54
is this. Let's say we have three
1:59:56
players on the perimeter. Let's say John
1:59:58
Blackwell is on the point and on
2:00:00
the two wings on the right wing
2:00:02
is John Tanjan and the other side
2:00:04
is Max Klesmit. If Blackwell throws the
2:00:06
ball to the right wing, he is
2:00:08
then going to go to go to
2:00:10
the left to kind of drip to
2:00:13
kind of drip to kind of drip
2:00:15
to the corner to kind of drip
2:00:17
to the corner to the corner to
2:00:19
the corner to the corner to the
2:00:21
corner. on Blackwell's man and then Tanjay
2:00:23
would throw it over the top to
2:00:25
John Blackwell and get him a shot.
2:00:27
Now another thing is the guy who's
2:00:29
the screen there on that back screen.
2:00:31
is also a threat to roll to
2:00:33
the basket and get an easy layup
2:00:35
because the defense then might think that
2:00:37
the play is going over the top
2:00:39
to John Blackwell so that's a that's
2:00:41
the player screen I love it I
2:00:43
think got that exactly right John I
2:00:45
we love having yon and and like
2:00:47
I said everyone go read the story
2:00:49
because I can't say it enough like
2:00:51
you love and breathe hoops and you
2:00:53
are a great story in the fact
2:00:55
that like the world is cynical You
2:00:57
just worked your ass off and got
2:00:59
to this point and we're very happy
2:01:01
for you and this is the best
2:01:03
time of year. Yeah, it's the best
2:01:05
time of year. I appreciate you guys.
2:01:07
This is something I look forward to
2:01:09
every single year. And if I make
2:01:11
it to Chicago this summer, I hope
2:01:13
to see you guys. Yes. Also, you
2:01:15
know, you guys enjoy the tournament too
2:01:17
because cat, I'm telling you man, I
2:01:19
don't know if it can happen, but
2:01:21
Wisconsin has enough here to at least
2:01:23
get to the second weekend. I know
2:01:26
you live and die with that team
2:01:28
and they got the best off-guard in
2:01:30
America. Yeah, I'm very excited for the
2:01:32
tournament. I want to try to have
2:01:34
a run. Also, it sounds like I
2:01:36
might have to invite you over to
2:01:38
Thanksgiving. I mean, you might have to
2:01:40
just come to my house for Thanksgiving.
2:01:42
If I'm fortunate enough to get the
2:01:44
assignment again, but I mean, but you
2:01:46
know me, I have to I focus
2:01:48
on a game day like when I
2:01:50
have a game day assignment. Like, it's
2:01:52
like, you know, that's the only thing
2:01:54
that matters. So I can't unwind until
2:01:56
that happens. You don't have to unwind.
2:01:58
You don't have to unwind. You can
2:02:00
literally just come over and eat. You
2:02:02
don't have to talk to anyone. I'm
2:02:04
totally fine with that. I don't like
2:02:06
talking to anyone in my house on
2:02:08
things. But then you and I can
2:02:10
get in a little disagreement because I'm
2:02:12
going to want like feast week on
2:02:14
the TV and you're going to want
2:02:16
to watch the NFL. I got you.
2:02:18
Don't you worry? I love, I love,
2:02:20
I love, you guys know I love
2:02:22
New York more than anything. As you
2:02:24
guys know I used to watch, cocktail
2:02:26
Wall Street, the secret of my success
2:02:28
nonstop, but there's nothing like a great
2:02:30
long weekend in Chicago, especially in the
2:02:32
summer. Love Gibson, Italia. So come do
2:02:34
it! Great portion sizes. Come do it.
2:02:36
Let's get it, let's live it up.
2:02:39
We were going to take a long
2:02:41
weekend with the baby last summer and
2:02:43
we didn't think she was ready for
2:02:45
it, but maybe this summer she will
2:02:47
be. We love that architecture tour too.
2:02:49
That's big time. It's like Vince Vaughn
2:02:51
and the breakup. Yeah, the boat tour
2:02:53
is great. But you don't eat pizza
2:02:55
when you're out here. I will not
2:02:57
waste calories on pizza outside of the
2:02:59
Eastern Times. Yes, yes. We know that
2:03:01
rule. Did you watch any football this
2:03:03
year? We had a Super Bowl a
2:03:05
little bit. even though you know just
2:03:07
because I couldn't take the game and
2:03:09
my wife came over and said we
2:03:11
have an apartment full of people you
2:03:13
can't sleep and I said you're right
2:03:15
we sleep in May yeah there we
2:03:17
go all right John thanks so much
2:03:19
can't wait to see on the broadcast
2:03:21
and hopefully you do come to Chicago
2:03:23
sometime soon we'll get some dinner you
2:03:25
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Oh, Breaking Moose! We're actually cheating because
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we're adding this at the end of
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the show before we do numbers with
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Oldie. Breaking Moose, Hank? Jamar Chase, T.
2:05:21
Higgins. Paid whoa per by who the
2:05:23
Cincinnati Bangles. That's the important part. Yeah,
2:05:25
so Jamar four years 161 million 112
2:05:27
mil guaranteed He is now the highest
2:05:29
paid non-quarter back in NFL history. He
2:05:31
didn't give him seven days He got
2:05:33
the crown and then T Higgins got
2:05:35
four years two years guaranteed worth up
2:05:37
to 115 million. I don't know what
2:05:39
the guaranteed money is on that But
2:05:41
he is now the highest paid wide
2:05:43
receiver to well in NFL history I
2:05:45
am very happy for Bengal's fans. I'm
2:05:47
very happy for Joe Burrow. This is
2:05:49
awesome because Bengal's fans I think were
2:05:51
very nervous. about this entire off season
2:05:53
will the Bengals be cheap what's gonna
2:05:55
happen in the future of their franchise
2:05:57
their offense those two guys are really
2:05:59
fucking good at football and they're both
2:06:01
still young relatively young and you have
2:06:03
Joe Burrow and you basically are saying
2:06:05
you know Yeah, they got to make
2:06:07
some right decisions on defense and make
2:06:09
some good picks, but they're always going
2:06:11
to be in the mix with those
2:06:13
three guys. Yeah, they're saying, let's lean
2:06:15
into what we do really well. That's
2:06:18
offense. Our offense is fucking awesome. Let's
2:06:20
just do more of that. Let's just
2:06:22
do more of that. And if you're
2:06:24
a fan, that's just do more of
2:06:26
that. And if you're a fan, that's
2:06:28
exactly what you're a fan. That's exactly
2:06:30
what you're a good. Trey Hendrickson will
2:06:32
definitely get traded yes on point right
2:06:34
yes yes i would say so but
2:06:36
good for the bangles good for bangles
2:06:38
fans you basically guaranteed the next three
2:06:40
to four years are gonna be fun
2:06:42
yeah i don't know if they're gonna
2:06:44
win but they're gonna win but they're
2:06:46
gonna be fun yeah i don't know
2:06:48
if they're gonna win but they're gonna
2:06:50
be fun yeah you're gonna be great
2:06:52
ones have always been fun when those
2:06:54
three guys are on the field so
2:06:56
good job thanks for the breaking moves
2:06:58
Hank no Is not a video game?
2:07:00
So Max saying it's a video game
2:07:02
you idiot. He's the idiot. I memory
2:07:04
hold this whole conversation because I really
2:07:06
don't like This is from quakes. It's
2:07:08
well, I mean, it's it's it's it's
2:07:10
it's it's it might be the worst
2:07:12
podcasting to have a extended debate about
2:07:14
a video that people are listening can't
2:07:16
see. It's new segment. Is this motherfucker
2:07:18
real? When you're thinking about it? When
2:07:20
you're thinking about it. So everyone's gonna
2:07:22
have to go look for the video.
2:07:24
I'm thinking about the fans Hank Personally,
2:07:26
I'd be I mean I bring it
2:07:28
up when we end this when we
2:07:31
end recording right now Did bring it
2:07:33
up when we're not right now when
2:07:35
we end recorded just to get this
2:07:37
conversation going again when we end recording
2:07:39
I am 100% in on just hanging
2:07:41
out with the boys and continue in
2:07:43
this debate. Cool. Yeah. All right, so
2:07:45
let's do that. So now the podcast
2:07:47
listeners can be like finally. Well, that's
2:07:49
not good for the listeners either. Now
2:07:51
they're like, I wonder if they talked
2:07:53
about something cool with the video. No,
2:07:55
we're gonna just talk about the video.
2:07:57
It's gonna be worse. We're gonna have
2:07:59
a worse conversation than we did on
2:08:01
the air. All right, let's kick it
2:08:03
to ourselves with Oldie. Okay, time for
2:08:05
numbers, and we're gonna say goodbye to
2:08:07
Oldie for now, Oldie. How was how
2:08:09
is your weekend, how is your weekend
2:08:11
watching Hoop's with us with us. Four
2:08:13
days of you just getting blitzed with
2:08:15
college hoops. Electric, like fire. I was
2:08:17
unbelievable from the second I showed up
2:08:19
while the airplane was another story, but
2:08:21
I mean, once I arrived, it was,
2:08:23
it was on. Don Quixong, we were
2:08:25
ready to rumble in the jungle. Heaters,
2:08:27
good on Thursday, heater on Friday, good,
2:08:29
Saturday good, and Sunday. You know my
2:08:31
number's four, and it was my fourth
2:08:33
day here. Yeah, phenomenal. Oh, finished hard.
2:08:35
Yeah, finished hard and hot. So you
2:08:37
just kept on winning. Basically, it's almost
2:08:39
like, what's his name? They're piss and
2:08:41
excellence, right? Wake up in the morning,
2:08:44
piss excellence. Yeah. What did you think
2:08:46
about brackets? Diet is sick. Yeah, so
2:08:48
it's sickening. So Oldie had never seen
2:08:50
a live bracket reveal. Like I've seen
2:08:52
a bracket in Canada, like, and once
2:08:54
it comes out, but like. 48 72
2:08:56
hours after the fact right by the
2:08:58
time it gets up north. Yeah, but
2:09:00
I mean to see it live to
2:09:02
see teams fired up sitting waiting is
2:09:04
there's squad gonna be the squad and
2:09:06
all of a sudden boom it's their
2:09:08
squad and everyone's fired up. Yeah, give
2:09:10
us a couple Cinderella's. Uh, Cinderella's. Well,
2:09:12
St. John's not a Cinderella. No, used
2:09:14
to be. I got to go my
2:09:16
boys. I got it. We got to
2:09:18
go back to Akron. Zips, Zips. Zips.
2:09:20
Zips. Zips. Unbelievable. Who else we banging
2:09:22
with on the west side region? I'm
2:09:24
trying to remember. There's so many teams.
2:09:26
It's trying to hard to track. Yeah,
2:09:28
I think it's like 300 and I
2:09:30
don't know 56 and just D1 and
2:09:32
then we got the other unranked schools
2:09:34
that still make it which is still
2:09:36
incredible. Yeah. Florida. Florida's one come on
2:09:38
oldy orange one. Yeah, uh, Badgers is
2:09:40
not a Cinderella story. No, they should
2:09:42
be even higher for some reason. I
2:09:44
don't understand, but they that's that's all
2:09:46
politics stuff. That's behind this. Yeah, we
2:09:48
triggered out after. Yeah, who else is
2:09:50
out there is shanty? What was the
2:09:52
one team there? Or Norfolk, Norfolk, Norfolk,
2:09:54
you like Norfolk. Yeah, okay. I like
2:09:57
them. I watched them play a couple
2:09:59
games. Pretty much a home game. I
2:10:01
think they're playing Raleigh, right? Max is
2:10:03
trying to find a bracket right now.
2:10:05
And he can't, all he's doing is
2:10:07
looking up memes and streets where it's
2:10:09
like, there we go. He's giving me
2:10:11
empty brackies, he's giving me, empty brackies,
2:10:13
and I'm just like, okay, final four
2:10:15
from 20. I got you right now,
2:10:17
right here. He's got, we're back in,
2:10:19
we're back in. Oldie, what was your
2:10:21
takeaway from just the gambling game, you
2:10:23
spent a lot of, you spent a
2:10:25
lot of time, A lot of inside
2:10:27
jokes. At some points, it's just like,
2:10:29
as I'm right now, I get speechless
2:10:31
at some points, it's crazy. Yeah, it's
2:10:33
incredibly amazing. Guy knows every coach in
2:10:35
America. The guy literally knows every coach,
2:10:37
and if he doesn't know the coach,
2:10:39
he's running straight goods, practice facility. Yeah.
2:10:41
If your guys can't get into a
2:10:43
barn because it's so big, call Rico,
2:10:45
one shot, one dial, you got him,
2:10:47
boom, he's on it. You won't even
2:10:49
miss the call. He won't even miss
2:10:51
the call. Rico beat Wisconsin last year.
2:10:53
Yeah, he got Jamie the practice facility.
2:10:55
Yeah, he did. You might want to
2:10:57
also keep an eye on the electricity
2:10:59
he's been punishing through. That phone is
2:11:01
constantly charged. What's the most powerful phone
2:11:03
on these? It is. That's a huge
2:11:05
phone. I'm surprised. That's a huge phone.
2:11:07
I'm surprised you're not as secure. I'm
2:11:10
surprised you're not to secure like a
2:11:12
like a beamer around it like whomping
2:11:14
kind of. I don't know what you're
2:11:16
talking about, but I like, but I
2:11:18
like it's just so powerful. It's just
2:11:20
so powerful. It has like a raise
2:11:22
off, like a raise off, like a
2:11:24
raise off, like a raise off, like
2:11:26
a raise off, like a raise off,
2:11:28
like a raise off, like a raise
2:11:30
off, like a raise off, like a
2:11:32
raise off, like a raise off, like
2:11:34
a raise off, like a raise off,
2:11:36
like a raise off, like a raise
2:11:38
off, like a raise off, like a
2:11:40
raise off, like a raise off, All
2:11:42
right, so great trip oldie. We'll see
2:11:44
it. We'll see it in the future
2:11:46
We we we will maybe back for
2:11:48
some hockey playoffs. So a couple months
2:11:50
from now or a month and a
2:11:52
half from now. But yeah, it's great
2:11:54
having you around. You're great energy on
2:11:56
the streams. I appreciate it. I appreciate
2:11:58
it. It's live. Everyone's a beauty in
2:12:00
there. Everyone's bumping and grinding. They got
2:12:02
tickets going, winning tickets, losing tickets. It
2:12:04
doesn't matter. Yeah. And if you're not
2:12:06
even for that team, just be the
2:12:08
team. Be the team. If you're not
2:12:10
for that team, be the team. Be
2:12:12
there. He was just like, I'm doing
2:12:14
this for Big T. Oh yeah, I'm
2:12:16
gonna ride with him. I rode with
2:12:18
Big T the whole Choo-choo train the
2:12:21
whole way there. In about last seven
2:12:23
minutes, I had a Florida ticket. Yeah.
2:12:25
It connected though. It connected. Yeah. Great
2:12:27
run by the Vols. Great run. Good
2:12:29
work. Good team atmosphere, but Gator's chomped
2:12:31
and through. Great run. Better. way better
2:12:33
bad than the run. Also great job
2:12:35
I mean you just like we would
2:12:37
leave basically every day we come in
2:12:39
watch basketball day leave at like 10
2:12:41
o'clock 11 o'clock and then I'd wake
2:12:43
up the next morning and Oldie was
2:12:45
just everywhere in Chicago he was hitting
2:12:47
he was hitting he was doing BP
2:12:49
and it's sluggers last night it won
2:12:51
in the morning walking around Fulton market
2:12:53
you had a great time everywhere I
2:12:55
was on the strip I was here
2:12:57
I was there I was here Friday
2:12:59
I want to apologize though I was
2:13:01
late though I was a second in
2:13:03
the second in the office. Oh, who
2:13:05
was your first? Uh, Luke. Oh, yeah.
2:13:07
And I knocked on the door and
2:13:09
I was excited and I didn't see
2:13:11
anyone. He goes, well, what are you
2:13:13
doing here? I said, back to the
2:13:15
grind with the boys. What do you
2:13:17
mean? Am I doing here? Like, it's
2:13:19
got time. Did it's go time? Do
2:13:21
you? Do you? Yeah. And it's go
2:13:23
time. Do you? Yeah. And then. And
2:13:25
he goes, how would I have a
2:13:27
card? Like, I don't know. 914 or
2:13:29
9 something. On a Saturday, this is
2:13:31
Saturday. Oh, this is the Saturday. Yeah,
2:13:34
no one was here till noon. But
2:13:36
you're here at 914. And he's like,
2:13:38
the show doesn't start to like 12
2:13:40
or 1 the stream. And I'm like,
2:13:42
I don't care about the stream of
2:13:44
the show right now. I'm here for
2:13:46
the work. Let's go. Yeah. So I
2:13:48
went and started filling up the waters,
2:13:50
you know, cleaned it up, and that
2:13:52
was it. Bada Boon Bada Bing, we're
2:13:54
back at it. Love it. And then
2:13:56
everyone showed up. Thanks for coming to
2:13:58
you. Yeah. Yeah, it was, it was,
2:14:00
he was filling up the waters every
2:14:02
single time I turned around. So I
2:14:04
appreciate that oldie. And throwing out trash
2:14:06
with PFT. Yeah, that was that was
2:14:08
all time. We were working on the
2:14:10
El Camino. Yeah, out in the garage
2:14:12
here. We hear a beeping noise. The
2:14:14
garage door raises up. It's a dump
2:14:16
truck back and in immediately old he
2:14:18
goes, hang on, I'll be right back.
2:14:20
He runs over the dumpster, it starts
2:14:22
loading the truck, he goes, hang on,
2:14:24
I'll be right back, he runs over
2:14:26
the dumpster, it starts loading the dumpster,
2:14:28
it starts loading the truck, and it's
2:14:30
like, it's like, And that was cool
2:14:32
with it. I ran the controls. I
2:14:34
ran the controls. He tried to come
2:14:36
over and show me. This is how
2:14:38
you do it. But he's taking it
2:14:40
easy. I got seniority, Paul. How many
2:14:42
years you got in, dude? I want
2:14:44
to tell him, but he was a
2:14:47
good guy. He's out there bumping and
2:14:49
grinding with the boys. You got a
2:14:51
lot of. You got a lot of
2:14:53
it. He's out there bumping and grinding
2:14:55
with the boys. You got a lot.
2:14:57
So you got a lot of. So
2:14:59
you got a lot of it. So
2:15:01
you got a lot of. You got
2:15:03
a lot of. So he. You got
2:15:05
a lot of. You got a. He's
2:15:07
a lot of. He's out there bumping.
2:15:09
He's out there bumping. He's out there
2:15:11
bumping. He's out there bumping. He's out
2:15:13
there bumping. He's out there bumping. He's
2:15:15
out there bumping and grinding. He's out
2:15:17
there bumping and grinding. He's out there
2:15:19
bumping It's no potter, but, but, but,
2:15:21
but, but, but, but, but, nothing crazy
2:15:23
like that snow. It's all good. I
2:15:25
think it's gonna be a good year
2:15:27
for the Elkhovina old. Oh, it's gonna
2:15:29
be smooth. Once that sunshine come coming
2:15:31
out. Look out. Highway, 190. Here we
2:15:33
come. No, no, no highways. Can't take
2:15:35
it on the highway. No, no highways.
2:15:37
Can't take it on the highway. Can't
2:15:39
take it on the highway. Can't take
2:15:41
it on the highway. Can't take it
2:15:43
on the highway. Can't take it. Can't
2:15:45
take it on the highway. Can't take
2:15:47
it on the highway. Can't take it.
2:15:49
Can't take it. Can't take it on
2:15:51
the highway. Can't take it. Can't take
2:15:53
it on the highway. Can't take it.
2:15:55
Can't take it. Can't take it. Can't
2:15:57
take it on the highway. Can't take
2:16:00
it on the highway. You. You. You.
2:16:02
You. Can't take it. All right, go
2:16:04
ahead memes you get it. No memes
2:16:06
you have it you have it say
2:16:08
take it I'll take 84 13 1
2:16:10
I got a go I already went
2:16:12
my four banger I had to hit
2:16:14
the nash or six one I got
2:16:16
to go back to the root
2:16:18
stand up on the
2:16:20
hang side six up
2:16:22
nice back to
2:16:24
the the hang side six nine. Oh
2:16:26
nice back to the roots 99 poke
2:16:28
Jack 52 boy Jack 21 oh
2:18:31
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