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What's up? What's up everybody? Welcome
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to a brand new episode of
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Part of the Problem. I am
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Dave Smith. He is Robbie the
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Fire, Bernstein. We are back from
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up north. How you feeling, Rob,
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being back in the free country
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of America? It's nice being back
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here. It's nice being back here.
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You don't realize how much we
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have until you have to
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see Canada. And where we went
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in St. Catherine's is not necessarily...
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representative of
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the full of Canada. Nice people
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out there though, we did have
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a very nice time. I like,
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it's a, we had a great
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time Buffalo, great time
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in St. Catherine's, it does,
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when we go to Canada, it
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does feel like the audience
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that we draw to our show
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are the best people in
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Canada. So we support those
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people. We'll get them out of there
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before the massive bombing campaign. That's inevitable.
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I told a lot of Canada jokes
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that were doing very well. This one
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got nothing, but I still just think
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it's true of the country is that
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every time I meet Canadians, they're very
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nice people. I don't understand how they
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seem to all come together to forge
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that socialist shittle. Like, there's something
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odd about when Canadians combine. It's like
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a bad Power Rangers or something. I
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know what you mean. I know what
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you mean. Well, there is something. I
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mean, there's got to be a connection.
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I don't have like a fully worked
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out thesis or anything on this, but
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there's got to be some
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connection between, like, socialist, the
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way socialism is sold, and
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taking advantage of, like, people's kindness.
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Because it is always sold as
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like, but don't you just want
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to be a decent person? You know, I
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mean, come on. Like, be good. I mean,
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I was, I don't know but the way
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I don't know if you've seen
2:02
this rub and I haven't been
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like I am I don't pay
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very close attention to like local
2:08
politics in general even when I'm
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talking about like New York City
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but I have kind of been
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paying attention a little bit to
2:17
the the New York City mayor
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race just because Cuomo announced that
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he was running again and that
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you know for obvious reasons right
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like he was such a major
2:27
figure in the whole COVID insanity
2:29
but There's like of the, I'm
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blanking on his name, but of
2:33
the like progressive candidates, the guy
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who's leading is like a democratic
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socialist. And I saw he had
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like an ad for his candidacy
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for mayor. And it's all just
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like, it's all, you know, it's
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like, hey, you know, you guys
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think it's expensive here, right? Why
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don't we just make it free?
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Why don't we say you know
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we got all these slow buses?
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I say we make them faster
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and free Daycare, that's one of
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the biggest costs. You know what?
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No cost for daycare. It really
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is like it's wild to watch
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it where you're like what a
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what a huge advantage it is
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just in terms of like selling
3:11
to Normie's your policies when you
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get to just I mean look
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I'm not saying like he he
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he act but it's like when
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you just he just says It'll
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be no cost. The buses will
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be free. Child care will be
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no cost. And if that's the
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world you're playing in, like if
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the world, the game we're playing
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is that I get to pretend
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that I just have like a
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magic wand that can like poof,
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make things free, and then you're
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just like, why wouldn't we do
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it? Oh, you're saying we shouldn't
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do it? It almost like without
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saying this extra step, it's just
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kind of implied, but it's almost
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like going like... Hey Rob, you
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have a magic wand and you
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won't even wave it to make
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everything free. it does it on
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some level it just plays on
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like i'm a nice guy and
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you're like a bad mean person
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who just doesn't care of course
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that's you know i don't know
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i guess it's it's a little
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frustrating because you're like wouldn't wouldn't
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almost every person like immediately go
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to the question of like wait
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a minute but we can we
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can do that that's an option
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we can just make things not
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cost anything i don't know about
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you but i always thought the
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rent was too damn high I
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mean he made it a shockingly
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long amount of time and then
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like people would it very weird
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with that guy I don't know
4:36
much about him but he did
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it almost everyone knows who that
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guy is I feel like like
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people like quote the line like
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when you said it didn't take
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me a second to be like
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great who are you talking I
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mean in any other context if
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you were talking about like the
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guy who perennial perennially came in
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seventh place in a mayor race.
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I would have no idea who
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you're talking about with that guy.
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You're like, oh, rent is too
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damn high. I ain't gonna bring
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that to rent. Branding for the
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win. What can I say? Jimmy
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McMillan. What is it? Jimmy McMillan.
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78 years old. All right. Well,
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I don't know. I don't know
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if he's still out there. But
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this guy is also complaining about
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the rent being too damn high.
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Anyway, I always just found it.
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And this is true in general.
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to the extent that they borrow
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a little bit from socialism. But
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there is like an interesting thing
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and it's such a like a
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comment on either the intelligence of
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the people who are pushing these
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policies or their perceived intelligence of
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the people of the voters who
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are listening to them push these
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policies. But the idea of being
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like, look. if we're gonna let's
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just say there's a thing that
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that's got to get funded or
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whatever you know for for example
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child care just because that was
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the the comment in this in
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this ad that I saw. So
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like there could theoretically be an
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argument where you go like, okay,
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so there is this service that
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is child care and there's this
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one model where like people do
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it privately. Basically the model is
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that you have to voluntarily come
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to an agreement with the person
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who's going to be charging you
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for is going to be providing
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you the child care. Right? So
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if someone wants to watch your
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kids, then you have to ask
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them how much they charge. If
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they say they charge X, you
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can say, I can't do X,
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but I can do X minus
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10. They go, I can't do
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X minus 10. I could do
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X minus 5. You know what
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I mean? Like that's the model,
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like a free market in childcare.
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The other model is that we
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all, we the government force you
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at the threat of imprisonment to
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send us money. We then take
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that money. We hire the child
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care and you don't have to
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pay for it at that point
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because you've already paid for it
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through us. Okay, now, these are
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two different models and you could
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have an argument about those models
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of which one you think is
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better. Now, when you just describe
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it the way it is, I
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will admit. that the free market
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model already sounds more attractive because
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like already you're like well I
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don't know if I like the
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group with a violent with a
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monopoly on aggressive violence threatening to
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imprison me if I don't fund
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the thing that that seems like
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a worse model but like okay
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those are the two models now
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I'm describing the way they actually
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work but like when is it
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just something like what a mind-fuck
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it is that the people who
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support the forced monopoly model get
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to just describe it as free.
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You just get it. You know,
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there's stuff you want, you just
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get it. Is it like, as
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if, I mean, I know this
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is like the most basic observation,
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but it's like I'm still saying
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it because they're still making this
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claim that it's like, okay, if
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the people doing the child care
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are getting paid at all, then
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it's not free. It's just a
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question of who's paying it and
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where is the funding coming from?
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No one gets to say, no
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cost. Unless we get to a
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point where you can, like either
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through slavery, I mean, I guess
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there'd still be costs associated, right?
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Like that person still has to
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live and eat in order to
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show up for work the next
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day. But either you could enslave
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them and they just work for
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free, or you get into the
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realm of magic. Those are the
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only ways that things don't have
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a cost. So we're saying the
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reason they have socialism in Canada
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is that despite them being kind
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and uppy people, they're rather stupid.
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I'm saying they're really really friendly
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dumb people. Yeah, they're gullible. They're
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gullible but nice up in Canada.
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I guess that's what we learned
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from our one hour excursion over
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the border. I like to consider
8:58
us experts. We went a good
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20 minutes deep into Canada. We
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literally, we went far enough into
9:04
Canada where we could still like
9:06
touch America. Like we were still
9:08
on base the whole time. Anyway,
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it was a lot of fun.
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Oh, and then I should mention
9:14
that we, our next stop is
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Boston, which I'm very excited for.
9:18
We just always, me and me
9:20
and you always have a lot
9:22
of fun up in Boston, we
9:24
always draw great crowds up there.
9:26
So that's one of the best
9:28
comedy towns in the world. So
9:30
very much looking forward to going
9:32
up to Boston. That'll be on
9:34
March 27th through 29th. We'll be
9:36
up at laugh Boston. Comic Dave
9:38
Smith Dave smith.com for those tickets.
9:40
Also, reminder. It's coming up sooner
9:42
than later. In May, I will
9:44
be back at the Soho Forum
9:46
debating immigration in a live Oxford-style
9:48
debate in New York City. Make
9:50
sure you come on out to
9:52
that. Or go to one of
9:54
the other Soho Forum debates because
9:56
they're all excellent. The Soho forum.org
9:58
is the website for that. I
10:00
got dates too. Oh, oh, oh,
10:02
go ahead. I'm going to a
10:04
libertarian party state convention out in
10:06
Iowa in April. I'm also doing
10:08
a steamboat if you want to
10:10
come ski with me and do
10:12
some skiing. You can also email
10:14
me your porches at Rob's Newsroom@gmail.com.
10:16
Put an all that shenanigans together
10:18
and then of course the run
10:20
your mouth podcast. All right well
10:22
that's a that's awesome go make
10:24
sure to go see Rob there
10:26
make sure to go check out
10:28
run your mouth. There's there's a
10:30
couple things on my mind for
10:32
today's show and I guess broadly
10:34
speaking like there's a couple things
10:36
going on in foreign policy related
10:38
that I thought were pretty newsworthy
10:40
events and then there's also you
10:42
know just kind of One of
10:44
the things domestically, I guess that
10:46
is perhaps the most interesting dynamic
10:48
right now, I mean, maybe it's
10:50
number two behind the stuff Trump's
10:52
doing, but it is really interesting
10:54
watching the Democrats trying to grapple
10:56
with the position that they're in.
10:58
This is kind of the topic
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of discussion amongst almost every... a
11:02
person who's either left of center,
11:05
liberal, leftist, everybody kind of in
11:07
the left half of America, whenever
11:09
you see these days, if you
11:11
see a show, whether it's like
11:13
Bill Maher or the Pods Save
11:15
America guys, or just anyone kind
11:17
of nominally on the left, this
11:19
is the talk. It's like, what
11:21
do the Democrats have to do
11:23
to come out of this? And
11:25
it's appropriate. I mean, I've seen...
11:27
different times in my life now
11:29
that I've been around for a
11:31
little while. I've seen times where
11:33
one party was up big and
11:35
the other party was down and
11:37
out. You know, there's a few
11:39
that come to mind. You know,
11:41
there was a, well, when Barack
11:43
Obama first won and won a
11:45
pretty dominant victory, people were saying,
11:47
well, the Republicans have really been
11:49
defeated, you know, at the time...
11:51
George W. Bush was going out
11:53
with the lowest approval ratings for
11:55
an incumbent president Dick Cheney had
11:57
the lowest approval ratings for any
11:59
vice president. then here comes in
12:01
this extremely popular Barack Obama
12:04
had some of the highest
12:06
approval ratings in polling history
12:08
in America and now okay
12:10
it seemed like that party had
12:13
been pretty soundly defeated when
12:15
when Donald Trump won the
12:17
first time people were saying
12:19
the Democrats were down it
12:21
does seem to me that
12:23
this is different in scale
12:25
and kind. than any other
12:27
situation like that. I've never
12:30
really lived through something quite
12:32
like with one of the
12:34
major two parties being as
12:36
devastated as the Democrats are
12:38
right now. As I've said
12:40
before on the show, it's
12:42
to lose your voter base
12:45
and your propaganda apparatus all
12:47
in one election is quite
12:49
a loss. And they've also
12:51
just lost a kind
12:53
of cultural factor. that's
12:55
hard to put into
12:57
words but I guess to say
12:59
it the in the
13:01
simplest terms it's like
13:03
they they made the
13:06
Republicans the cool kids
13:08
and the Democrats kind
13:10
of like the nagging
13:12
carons which is really
13:15
like it is for someone
13:17
my age who was born
13:19
in 1983 it's hard
13:21
to overstate How impossible
13:23
that would have seemed?
13:25
Like the idea that the
13:28
Republicans could ever be the
13:30
cool ones amongst 17-year-olds
13:32
or something like that just seems
13:34
like un- I mean that would
13:37
have been like unthinkable.
13:39
As unthinkable as like, if
13:41
you were like, okay, like if you
13:43
had a bet with someone in like
13:45
the 11th grade or something and you
13:48
were like, I gotta turn someone into
13:50
the coolest kid in school. And I
13:52
was like, all right, you got to
13:54
turn the principal into the coolest kid
13:56
in school. And you'd be like, OK, well,
13:58
that's impossible. That cannot be. done. That was
14:01
making the Republicans the cool guys
14:03
is like on that level. So
14:05
anyway, all of this is going
14:07
on. And while this is happening,
14:09
it's interesting to see everybody kind
14:12
of give their own thoughts on
14:14
what exactly it is that the
14:16
Democrats could do. Some say you
14:18
got to like go harder against
14:20
Trump. Some people say you got
14:22
to abandon the woke stuff. Some people
14:24
say you you got to, you got to,
14:27
you know, get the working class vote
14:29
again. Nobody seems to have
14:31
an actual plan to put into
14:33
action. And so anyway, this is
14:35
kind of just one of the
14:38
things that I've been thinking about.
14:40
And while everyone is talking about
14:42
this, you see like these different wings
14:44
of the Democratic Party
14:46
and, you know, like what their vision.
14:49
for how you're supposed to do this
14:51
as. This, I guess, is leading to
14:53
some of the stuff that we're talking
14:55
about. Now, in this kind of vacuum,
14:57
it does seem like there's different Democrats
14:59
who are kind of like starting to
15:02
make some noise. I still have not
15:04
seen anything yet that I think has
15:06
a chance of being successful. I don't
15:08
know what you do, Rob, if you
15:10
think there's one wing or another or
15:13
one strategy or another that could rise
15:15
back to beat successful, but I'm not
15:17
seeing it seeing it. I think it's
15:19
unbelievable how poorly the Democrats are
15:21
operating right now. The best messengers
15:24
they have are Bernie Sanders and
15:26
Elizabeth Warren. They're not doing
15:28
a particularly good job. Then they
15:30
had that incredibly cringe video with
15:33
Corey Booker that they were all reading
15:35
the exact same script and they're
15:37
like... trying to be edgy for all their
15:40
thing of the dignity of the office. Now
15:42
like they're trying to figure out how to use
15:44
curse words, but they don't know how to,
15:46
like you said, they just don't know how to
15:48
be cool. It doesn't fit their personalities. Also,
15:50
the Democratic senators blocked the
15:53
bill to keep women out of
15:55
men's, I mean, men out of female sports.
15:57
I think the trans issue is such a loser
15:59
for them. and their old guard, you know,
16:01
they're still trying to pitch Ukraine war to
16:03
the end. And then when they're putting out
16:06
social media videos, you got that lady looks like
16:08
a witch, she put out a weird video last
16:10
week, they seem to be just at a total
16:12
weird video last week. They seem to be
16:14
just at a total loss for how to, and
16:17
by the way, the branding for them is easy.
16:19
We're supposed to be the party of the people
16:21
and we're supposed to make sure that you guys
16:23
have good jobs and great jobs and great
16:25
benefits and great benefits, so we're
16:27
going. And to be on that side,
16:30
that they can't not pitch wars. And
16:32
I think as Elon mess, we've said
16:34
it before, has returned freedom to
16:36
the internet. I don't think that
16:39
they have the propaganda tools to
16:41
just try and shame us into,
16:43
if you're not listening to
16:45
us, you're not nice and you
16:47
want to kill grandma. You know,
16:49
you're exactly right, dude. And
16:51
I think really the key is that you
16:54
have to recognize that it's not, the
16:56
way the issue is put out. is like,
16:58
well, what can the Democrats do to
17:00
get the voters back on their
17:02
side? Or what can they do
17:04
to get the working class back
17:06
on their side or something like
17:09
that? But you realize if that
17:11
was just the case, then the
17:13
Democrats would have been operating in
17:15
a different manner for many years
17:17
now. Like if the idea was
17:19
getting enthusiasm and fundraising and votes
17:21
and getting back... Well then, they would
17:23
have been embracing Bernie Sanders back
17:25
in 2016. If the goal was
17:28
to stay relevant and dynamic and,
17:30
and, and, you know, win voters
17:32
in this ever-changing culture. Well, they
17:34
had figures like Bobby Kennedy Jr. or
17:36
Tolsey Gabbard or people like this. Not, they
17:39
ran all of them out. with the exception
17:41
of Bernie Sanders. They attempted to run Bernie
17:43
Sanders out. They just didn't realize that Bernie
17:46
Sanders is such a pathetic loyal dog that
17:48
he was like, I'll just wait, that's cool,
17:50
I'll just wait here in the yard and
17:52
wait till you give me some scraps. I
17:55
don't can't, you know, like, but the real key
17:57
there is like what you said about the deep state.
17:59
The goal isn't. How do we get
18:01
everybody back? How do we
18:03
become popular again? That's actually
18:05
fairly straightforward. The goal is,
18:07
how do we maintain CIA
18:09
control over this party and
18:11
get the agenda of the
18:13
CIA while winning people back? All
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let's get back into the show. And look,
19:21
I'm not, I mean, that might sound a
19:23
little kooky or whatever, but like, did
19:25
you see Rob by the way? We didn't talk
19:27
about this on the show at all.
19:29
Did you see who the Democrats have?
19:31
give their official response to the state
19:33
of the union speech? It was Bernie
19:36
Sanders. No, Bernie Sanders gave one, but
19:38
that wasn't their official one. No, Bernie
19:40
Sanders just basically, Bernie Sanders did it
19:42
just like in the same way me
19:44
or you could do it. Like he
19:46
just made one and put it up
19:48
and yes, that was more. It's so
19:50
funny because yes, you think of that
19:52
as the response because yeah, like that's
19:55
actually to some degree what would represent
19:57
Democratic voters. But no, they
19:59
had this chick. but she was a CIA
20:01
officer. She was literally a CIA
20:04
employee. I mean, you know, Rob,
20:06
she's a former BIA employee,
20:08
which is, you know, doesn't really
20:10
exist, by the way. If
20:13
anyone, there's what a lot of
20:15
CIA insiders have said too.
20:17
There's no such thing as
20:19
former CIA agent. No, but
20:21
she goes and gives the, the speech,
20:24
I've tried, hold on. Well,
20:27
I'll find her her name here.
20:29
Where was it? Yeah, it's
20:31
the official democratic
20:33
response. It's the
20:35
she's from Michigan. Yes,
20:37
she's a senator from
20:40
in the chat. I didn't
20:42
just thank you. Thank you.
20:44
So she's a senator in
20:46
Michigan. Now she did, you
20:48
could say, she did, she
20:50
won. Her sentence sees, I think,
20:52
by a very thin margin,
20:54
but it was in a
20:57
state that Trump won. So
20:59
I guess that, you know, that
21:01
at least says, like, well, she
21:04
must have, typically, I'm not saying
21:06
this one to put out the
21:08
cool ad of, look, I can
21:10
drive backwards. I learned all sorts
21:13
of cool shit. I'm not sure.
21:15
I'm not sure. I don't think
21:17
I saw that. on a presidential
21:19
election day where one candidate
21:21
wins if you're from the other
21:23
party and you won that would indicate
21:26
that you must have carried some of
21:28
their votes because that's who came to
21:30
show up so like if Donald Trump
21:32
wins you know 52% of the voter
21:35
whatever well that means 52% of the
21:37
people coming out there voted for Donald
21:39
Trump if you won you must have
21:42
at least won some of his votes
21:44
that's not technically necessarily true because people
21:46
could not vote for president and just
21:48
vote for their senator but it's that's
21:51
generally probably true but the
21:53
woman literally worked for the CIA
21:55
and she comes out and her it gave
21:57
like a cold war speech literally in the
21:59
speech goes, Donald Trump is cozying up
22:01
to Vladimir Putin. Ronald Reagan was president
22:04
when we won the Cold War. If
22:06
Donald Trump was president back then, we
22:08
probably would have lost the Cold War.
22:11
So like that is the CIA's
22:13
conception of how to win back Democratic
22:15
voters is to go, we're Reaganites
22:17
now. Like it's just as if that's
22:19
like, that's where the Democrats, the
22:21
voters are at. But so that's just
22:24
to your point. This is literally what
22:26
they're attempting to do. Well, let's put
22:28
our CIA woman out there. Maybe she'll
22:30
want him back over. And it shows
22:33
you that it's not, again, in the
22:35
same sense that it's not like, hey,
22:37
how could MS NBC get higher ratings?
22:39
How could CNN get higher ratings? Well,
22:42
we all know lots of things
22:44
they could do to get higher
22:46
ratings. That's not really their issue.
22:48
Their issue is, how do we
22:50
keep pushing this agenda and get
22:52
higher ratings? Now that's much trickier
22:54
because the agenda has been rejected.
22:56
You know like we've said before like
22:58
there's a million ways that you could
23:00
figure out how to get the number
23:03
one show in cable news if you
23:05
were unencumbered by what topics you're allowed
23:07
to talk about I mean come on do it
23:09
do it here I got I got a new show
23:12
for you MS NBC it's called the Epstein
23:14
files and every single day this show
23:16
is dedicated to one news story
23:18
and one news story only and
23:20
that is getting to the bottom
23:23
of the Epstein story we are
23:25
going to hey there was a
23:27
pedophile ring that was you know
23:29
with American girls being molested and
23:31
and systematically abused and this involves
23:34
so many of the most powerful
23:36
people in our media in our
23:38
culture she had shady this guy
23:40
Epstein had ties to some country
23:42
in the Middle East as Dan Bongina
23:45
would say we have no idea which
23:47
one but it so okay Do that. We're going
23:49
to interview victims. We're going to interview. We're going
23:51
to get all the people who were around him
23:53
and grill then. We're going to put all the
23:55
best reporting together and every night we're going to
23:58
give you more information about the Jeffrey Epstein. case.
24:00
You telling me there's a chance
24:02
that wouldn't be the number one
24:04
rated show at MSNBC? Do they,
24:06
I mean like the video clips
24:08
would be getting fucking 20 million
24:10
hits online every single day, everyone
24:12
would be driven to, okay they
24:14
could do that, but why can't
24:16
they do that? Because they're not
24:18
just in it for the ratings,
24:20
that would defeat their entire purpose.
24:22
they're there to prop up the
24:24
regime and you know through like
24:26
the deep state or what you
24:28
know like that's what they're there
24:30
to do so they can't go
24:32
after so anyway what's really interesting
24:34
about the democratic situation is that
24:36
like there will be occasionally you
24:38
will see some some people like
24:40
real left wingers who will kind
24:42
of point stuff like this out
24:44
They'd be like, I mean, we
24:46
could be opposed to the military
24:48
industrial complex. That's very popular, you
24:50
know. And they're like, yeah. But
24:52
the whole point is we're trying
24:54
to figure out how we can
24:56
support the military industrial complex. So
24:58
that one doesn't exactly work. Anyway,
25:00
in this absurd vacuum, some of
25:02
the more colorful figures in the
25:04
Democratic Party have been out there
25:06
kind of giving a lesson on...
25:08
in my opinion, what not to
25:10
do. But we've got a few
25:12
of those today. Let's start with,
25:14
let's do the Elon Omar one
25:16
first. Rob, I think you haven't
25:18
seen this yet. But I did
25:20
find this to be just pretty,
25:22
pretty damn entertaining. We recently had
25:24
when you were Republican colleagues branding
25:26
Gil on the show. He said
25:28
that America would be better off
25:30
if you were arrested and deported.
25:32
He also said that. there was
25:34
audio of you advising what he
25:37
said or illegal immigrants here from
25:39
Somalia on how to abate ice
25:41
detection. I want you to respond
25:43
to that. Yeah, I mean, again,
25:45
you know, these are people who
25:47
have really stopped caring about our
25:49
institutions, really stopped caring about our
25:51
constitution. We know that folks who
25:53
are here, whether they are documented
25:55
or undocumented. We know whether you
25:57
are a permanent resident or you're
25:59
a citizen. and it is really
26:01
important for people to know those
26:03
rights. I know that it is
26:05
red meat for his base that
26:07
are synophobic and racist to say
26:09
to them that I am going
26:11
to find a way to arrest
26:13
and deport a member of Congress
26:15
who he thinks. is doing something
26:17
wrong when I am doing the
26:19
right thing in trying to make
26:21
sure everybody that is within my
26:23
constituency has the resources and the
26:25
information that they need. And she
26:27
was democratically elected by members by
26:29
the people in her district. Yes,
26:31
of course. But just to follow
26:33
up very quickly, just be clear,
26:35
you're not calling all his base
26:37
xenophobic and racist, right? Well, I
26:39
mean, he is feeding to something.
26:41
He has a petition out. He's
26:43
getting donations. That's what this is
26:45
all about. He knows he can't
26:47
deport me. There is no grounds
26:49
for my arrest. So this information
26:51
is only being put out there
26:53
by him for a reason. And
26:55
that reason is because he has
26:57
a base that feeds off of
26:59
that. Congresswoman, thanks so much for
27:01
coming in. I appreciate you all
27:03
for appreciating. Is there something? Rob,
27:05
that's it. We're done with the
27:07
video, but isn't there something amazing?
27:09
I know I like to point
27:11
this out all the time because
27:13
I do think it's like a
27:15
subtle thing that sometimes people don't
27:17
even notice. But it's now again,
27:19
of course, most people do or
27:21
they at least know it on
27:23
some level. But when I say
27:25
they don't notice, they may not
27:27
notice the tactic. They notice overall
27:29
that CNN is completely. like corrupting
27:31
on one side of the issue.
27:33
But like, you know how we,
27:35
we've talked about this a lot
27:37
before, whenever they're like, if they're
27:39
interviewing Donald Trump, they'll, or JD
27:41
Vance, or someone like that, they'll
27:43
do this thing where like, you
27:45
say something, I ask you your
27:48
opinion, you give the answer to
27:50
the question, and then before I
27:52
start the next question, I just
27:54
go, we already know that that's
27:56
not true. Moving on, do you
27:58
know... You know what I mean?
28:00
Like they don't even give you
28:02
a chance to get back. They're
28:04
just like, I'll be, but then
28:06
what does Wolf Blitzer do when
28:08
he's got, he's got Elon Omar
28:10
here? She just says her piece
28:12
and then he's supposed to be
28:14
playing neutral journalist, but then he
28:16
just turns over and goes, and
28:18
she was elected by her constituents.
28:20
As if that ever needs to
28:22
be pointed out about a Congress
28:24
person. Yes, that is isn't that
28:26
the default assumption of anybody who's
28:28
in the member is a member
28:30
of Congress that they won an
28:32
election to get there? But yet
28:34
he just turns over to go,
28:36
she got and she got votes
28:38
Saying that like what? Anyway, that's
28:40
just interesting. But here's a strategy
28:42
that maybe the Democrats could pursue.
28:44
How about this? Anybody who's who
28:46
objects to her in her words
28:48
giving resources? to illegal immigrants so
28:50
that they can evade ICE must
28:52
be a racist. There's one strategy.
28:54
It's like, what? By the way,
28:56
as I've gone through the polls,
28:58
you know, before, it's not, it
29:00
is, it was a 50-50 issue
29:02
amongst democratic voters, whether they support
29:04
mass deportations. Super majorities of the
29:06
American people support it. So she's
29:08
talking about... 50% of Democratic voters.
29:10
Like 50% of the people of
29:12
the minority of the American voters
29:14
who even still voted Kamala Harris.
29:16
50% of them, I guess, are
29:18
xenophobic racists, according to Elon Omar.
29:20
So like, just saying, of all
29:22
the strategies, this one doesn't seem
29:24
to be the best. But maybe
29:26
I'm missing something, Rob. What do
29:28
you think? Maybe I'm just racist.
29:30
I don't think you're missing much.
29:32
And it's incredible how. Poorly she
29:34
speaks the English language for being
29:36
a Congress lady and I she's
29:38
not from Jamaica She's almost talking
29:40
like in dress like a Jamaican
29:42
lady that gets a little bit
29:44
confusing But uh yeah, I don't
29:46
think I don't think election to
29:48
individuals who don't like everyone pouring
29:50
over the border and wanting to
29:52
control who's in the country and
29:54
screaming at them that they're racist
29:57
is a very good way of
29:59
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get back into the show. Well
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isn't it wild too that it's
31:19
like if you're if you are
31:21
making this argument and like I
31:23
you know I I'm doing a
31:25
debate on immigration at the Soho
31:27
Forum as I mentioned coming up
31:29
soon and maybe some of this
31:31
stuff will come up there but
31:33
It does seem to me that
31:35
unless you're arguing four open borders,
31:37
like unless you're taking a pure,
31:39
like a pure position of there
31:41
should be absolutely zero restrictions on
31:43
anyone in the world if they
31:45
want to come here. If you're
31:47
not, which is, look, there are
31:49
some people. who take that position,
31:51
I, you know, vehemently disagree with
31:53
it. It is wildly unpopular. I
31:55
don't know, you know, again, like,
31:57
I haven't seen, I've tried to
31:59
find numbers on, like, what percentage
32:01
of the American people support open
32:03
borders? And the truth is that
32:06
it is so unpopular that no
32:08
one ever asks the question. And
32:10
I look at all these immigration
32:12
polls, and it's very hard. I
32:14
found one ever. that I think
32:16
it got like 4% and this
32:18
was from many years ago the
32:20
truth they never even asked that
32:22
question they ask like would you
32:24
like higher levels of immigration or
32:26
lower levels of immigration do you
32:28
support mass deportations or only deportations
32:30
of violent criminals do it like
32:32
these are the questions asked because
32:34
I at this point when super
32:36
majorities you know support mass deportations
32:38
I really doubt you could get
32:40
2% of people to say that
32:42
they support zero restrictions. But if
32:44
you want to make that argument,
32:46
whether people support it or not,
32:48
you could make the argument. Again,
32:50
I don't agree with that, but
32:52
you could make the argument. But
32:54
short of that, short of arguing
32:56
that there should be zero restrictions,
32:58
I don't see how you get
33:00
to go on your moral high
33:02
horse here of like, you're a
33:04
racist xenophobic if you think that
33:06
people who came here illegally should
33:08
be forced to leave. It's like,
33:10
well, then that's the whole, that's
33:12
the whole thing. is like if
33:14
you believe in any immigration restrictions
33:16
well then obviously at some point
33:18
you got to restrict people right
33:20
even if you were to say
33:22
that you know Americans we take
33:24
in more immigrants than anywhere in
33:26
the world both legally and illegally
33:28
but I think we should take
33:30
in a lot more you know
33:32
like whatever the exact numbers were
33:34
with under Joe Biden were taking
33:36
in like a million legal immigrants
33:38
a year and then they were
33:40
having hundreds of thousands you know
33:42
to millions pour in every month
33:44
we don't exactly know the numbers
33:46
but let's just say you were
33:48
like I think the number should
33:50
be way higher I think we
33:52
should take in 10 million immigrants
33:54
legally every year. It's like, okay,
33:56
well, then those 10 million come
33:58
and what happens when more come
34:00
on top of that? I mean,
34:02
unless you're just for open borders,
34:04
you'd have to believe in restrictions
34:06
at some point. Okay, then they
34:08
have to be restricted. And then,
34:10
but then to turn around and
34:12
say, that makes you racist or
34:15
xenophobic or something, it's like, is
34:17
your argument that if anybody in
34:19
America does not believe that anyone
34:21
in the world has a right
34:23
to come here, whether they follow
34:25
our laws or don't. And if
34:27
you don't believe that you're a
34:29
bad person somehow, again, the reason
34:31
I just mentioned this is just
34:33
because it's like you see these
34:35
Democrats struggling to figure out how
34:37
to deal with this moment. And
34:39
then it's almost like at least
34:41
one of them, not that she's
34:43
a representative of all of the
34:45
Democratic establishment. She's certainly not. But
34:47
you have one of them out
34:49
here who's like, hey, here's my
34:51
idea. Let's lean into this very
34:53
popular policy and say that you
34:55
are an evil person if you
34:57
support it. It's just wild to
34:59
think that anyone would even like
35:01
anyone in the game of politics
35:03
would think that this is something
35:05
you could say out loud. But
35:07
of course when you do that
35:09
you can count on Wolfblitzer to
35:11
nod along and remind everybody that
35:13
you were elected. Also when she
35:15
says that illegal immigrants have constitutional
35:17
rights. I don't think it's a
35:19
constitutional right to not be deported.
35:21
They might have constitutional rights of
35:23
not being like just a legally
35:25
held in prisons and definitely. Sure.
35:27
Yeah, no, look, well, right, yeah,
35:29
it's like it's not, yeah, you
35:31
can't torture them or beat them
35:33
over the head with the club.
35:35
Sure, like there are, they still
35:37
do have like human rights, but
35:39
they do not, the whole point
35:41
is they do not have the
35:43
right to be here. And that's
35:45
a very different thing. That's a
35:47
very different claim. And I'm sure
35:49
all of us, I know for
35:51
a fact, me and you support
35:53
this, right? But it's true that
35:55
anybody, and the Constitution is clear
35:57
about this, that anybody who's here,
35:59
any U.S. persons, any person who
36:01
is in the United States of
36:03
America has rights, meaning like if
36:05
they were charged with murder tomorrow,
36:07
okay, well they get a lawyer and they
36:10
get a day in court and they get
36:12
to put up a defense and call witnesses
36:14
and face their accuser and all
36:16
of those things. You know what
36:18
I mean? What? Face your accuser
36:20
and murder? You understand what I'm
36:22
saying. But I'm just saying, like
36:24
they have basic human rights. Sure.
36:26
Like they, we can't just... Give them
36:29
the electric chair or throw them in
36:31
jail for life without a trial because
36:33
they're not US citizens. Sure, they have
36:35
rights. But that isn't the question. The
36:37
question is, do they have the right
36:39
to be here? Do we have the
36:41
right to say, hey, you came in
36:43
here illegally, you have to leave and
36:45
get back in line if you want
36:47
to come in here? And how should
36:49
we feel about a sitting member of
36:51
Congress who is going out of her
36:53
way to obstruct the law and the
36:55
new administration implementing this legal and very
36:57
popular policy? That's the question
36:59
that's relevant. Again, they
37:01
don't want to answer that.
37:04
And look, CNN seems
37:06
happy to go down with the
37:08
ship, too. The other Democrat who
37:11
has seemingly kind of
37:13
emerged is this, I'm blanking
37:15
on her name, but here,
37:17
let's play the next clip
37:19
that we have here. Do
37:27
you have the next one, Mike? There
37:29
we go. It is not a criminal violation
37:32
to enter the country illegally. It's
37:34
not a criminal, it's crime, it's
37:36
not a crime, which is why
37:38
they're so frustrated because they really
37:40
want our local law enforcement to
37:42
go out and round up people
37:45
when they could be looking out
37:47
for the murderers and the sexual
37:49
abusers as well as the robbers.
37:51
They want them to go and
37:53
round people up on civil accusations.
37:55
And so that. It is not
37:57
a criminal violation to incident. All right.
38:00
Legally, all right, so this is
38:02
a All right, let's stop that
38:04
one So this is the other
38:06
angle that I guess they could
38:08
go with that it's not We
38:10
we should only be deporting the
38:13
criminals and we shouldn't be rounding
38:15
up other people. I don't know
38:17
Rob. What do you think? No,
38:19
I think this is worse than
38:21
that because she's saying it's not
38:23
a crime for them to have
38:25
entered illegal. That's just that's not
38:27
true Yeah, that's just false. Now
38:29
if you want to make, if
38:31
you want to make the argument
38:33
of, hey, I'd rather use our
38:35
law enforcement for policing crime than
38:37
wasting it on immigrants that have
38:39
come in illegally, but have otherwise
38:42
been peaceful and actually an asset
38:44
to our community, you can make
38:46
that argument. Yeah, you could say,
38:48
hey, why are we wasting federal
38:50
resources on people that even though
38:52
they came here illegally are actually
38:54
making a meaningful contribution? You can
38:56
go argue that. And that might
38:58
even be what she's trying to
39:00
say. But instead, she's just lying
39:02
and is mistaken when she says
39:04
that when they came into the
39:06
country illegally, they didn't commit a
39:08
crime. That's not English. What does
39:11
that mean? How do you come
39:13
into the country illegally without committing
39:15
a crime? Yes, yes. But right
39:17
to your point, I mean look
39:19
like first of all I don't
39:21
even disagree necessarily But like look
39:23
there really should be an order
39:25
of operations if you're talking about
39:27
deportations and and I've all as
39:29
I've always said The the first
39:31
most important thing was stemming the
39:33
flow of illegal migrants coming to
39:35
this country which seemed Donald Trump
39:37
seems to actually be correct in
39:39
what he said about his state
39:42
of the union, which is turns
39:44
out just meaning business about it
39:46
pretty much takes care of amazing
39:48
how much of that is a
39:50
result of just who's sitting in
39:52
the Oval Office and what is
39:54
their messaging sound like. Which you
39:56
know I guess kind of make
39:58
sense in hindsight but that it's
40:00
like you just it's quite a
40:02
journey to go on and people
40:04
aren't going to do it if
40:06
they think they're just going to
40:08
get turned away when they get
40:11
there. And so when Joe Biden's
40:13
in you have record high illegal
40:15
crossings when Trump's in there you
40:17
have record low. Pretty incredible juxtaposition
40:19
there. But if you want to
40:21
argue like, hey, we should go
40:23
after the violent criminals first, I
40:25
don't think you're going to get
40:27
much of an argument out of
40:29
me and you on that. But
40:31
the thing is like, again, this
40:33
almost it becomes more of like
40:35
a philosophical conversation when you're just
40:37
saying like, okay, fine. But then
40:40
like, but listen, do the people
40:42
who illegally came into our country,
40:44
do they have the right to
40:46
not be kicked out? And I
40:48
don't really see. a compelling argument
40:50
that they don't. Like, you know,
40:52
it's like, no, you don't, like,
40:54
look, there are places you don't
40:56
have a right to be. And
40:58
like, in a libertarian sense, this
41:00
is like, essentially, in pure libertarian
41:02
theory, right? You'd be like, okay,
41:04
there are basically two types of
41:06
people or maybe, you could say
41:09
three types of people who enter
41:11
property, okay? There are the people
41:13
who own that property. and they
41:15
can enter at any time they
41:17
want to, then there are the
41:19
people who are invited onto that
41:21
property and they can enter it
41:23
as at the owner of the
41:25
property as discretion. And then there
41:27
are people who are not invited
41:29
onto that property who enter it
41:31
anyway. And that is known as
41:33
trespassing. And trespassers can be removed
41:35
at the owner's discretion. And so
41:38
like I just don't understand exactly
41:40
why that theory doesn't scale. You
41:42
know like why why that shouldn't
41:44
ultimately scale up to a nation?
41:46
And that if there are people
41:48
who were not invited by the
41:50
domestic population who came in against
41:52
the rules, why is it exactly
41:54
that they just cannot be removed?
41:56
It's an interesting, when you really
41:58
think about it, Rob, obviously without
42:00
just getting the detail of like
42:02
the criminality of illegal border crossing
42:04
wrong, really what the implication from
42:07
this view is that if you
42:09
ever make it here, no matter
42:11
how you made it. This should
42:13
be home base. You should be
42:15
safe. Like in a game of
42:17
freeze tag. You know, can't get
42:19
me now. I'm on base. And
42:21
that is just nutty. It makes
42:23
absolutely no sense. And it is
42:25
so distant from where the American
42:27
people are on this issue at
42:29
the moment. Yeah, it just seems
42:31
like the failure of the Democratic
42:33
branding across the board. Like I
42:36
said, just last week, they're defending
42:38
trans people in female sports. and
42:40
here you have another issue that
42:42
the American population would like to
42:44
get cleaned up and nope they
42:46
would they're still willing to defend
42:48
that we need to have humanity
42:50
and so therefore all of these
42:52
illegal immigrants should be allowed to
42:54
stay and also we need to
42:56
have compassion on Ukraine and we
42:58
need to continue to support that
43:00
war so that more of their
43:02
people can die and by the
43:05
way they got low-hanging fruit of
43:07
just go challenged Donald Trump on
43:09
the tariffs and that we got
43:11
a weak economy and he's gonna
43:13
cause a recession for all of
43:15
the people that are looking to
43:17
have things be cheaper. You got
43:19
some winning cards, go play those.
43:21
Yeah, yeah. Well, I think, honestly,
43:23
the Democrats are in a situation
43:25
now where it's in order for
43:27
them to actually play cards that
43:29
are going to win. They kind
43:31
of, and this is what, it's
43:34
the kind of the nature of
43:36
these things, they actually need Trump
43:38
to make a mistake and a
43:40
really big one. Like, they kind
43:42
of can't... You know, it's like
43:44
that's a challenge in politics, I
43:46
understand, but... But you've just, they
43:48
have boy who cried wolfed themselves
43:50
into a corner. They can't just,
43:52
they can't pretend that something is
43:54
a huge outrage if it isn't
43:56
because they've just, like that card
43:58
has been played. And even if
44:00
Donald Trump does say something, that's
44:03
fairly outrageous. They can't make a
44:05
big outrage of it because it's
44:07
like, oh, you do that with
44:09
everything he says. So it doesn't
44:11
matter. You just, you have no,
44:13
you have no currency in this
44:15
exchange anymore. you're going to have
44:17
to wait for him to really
44:19
fuck up. You're going to have
44:21
to hope that he really blows
44:23
it. And so maybe your strategy
44:25
could be to try to lure
44:27
him into making a really bad
44:29
decision and then exploit that. But
44:32
that seems to me to be
44:34
their hope that he can really
44:36
he really fucks up and then
44:38
they can be like, oh shit,
44:40
this is a god damn disaster
44:42
and we wipe our hands of
44:44
it because we were against it
44:46
or something like that. But I
44:48
just don't think like... The, look,
44:50
you can, they can hope that
44:52
if Trump proceeds with mass deportations,
44:54
the implementation of that is really
44:56
ugly and brutal, and people are
44:58
like, shit, I just can't support
45:00
this. And then they could maybe,
45:03
but, but to just try to
45:05
get ahead of the issue when
45:07
Donald Trump, because again, look, again,
45:09
leaving aside like all the, you
45:11
know, aspects of politics and how
45:13
Trump actually governed compared to how
45:15
he, how his rhetoric is rhetoric
45:17
is. The bottom line is that
45:19
in the perception of the American
45:21
people and somewhat fairly, Donald Trump
45:23
was saying he wanted to build
45:25
a wall back in 2016. Donald
45:27
Trump was saying these people shouldn't
45:29
be let in back then. And
45:32
now you're going to bitch and
45:34
moan that after we let all
45:36
those people in, that some of
45:38
them are getting kicked out. But
45:40
Donald Trump's position was never, none
45:42
of them should have been here
45:44
to begin with. And so he
45:46
can almost play in this way
45:48
that like, yeah, it is unfortunate.
45:50
You know, the borders are, what's
45:52
his name? I'm blank and honest.
45:54
Horriman, yeah, Harbin, Tom, whatever. You
45:56
know, even he said, even the
45:58
most tough talking. immigration hawk
46:01
in the nation. He said at one point,
46:03
he goes, yeah, it's tragic that we have
46:05
to do this. He goes, it's a tragic,
46:07
this is how, this is why it's so
46:09
bad when you don't have a border. Like,
46:11
this is why it's so bad when
46:13
you let people flood in illegally by
46:16
the millions, because now we got around
46:18
people up and kick him out. And
46:20
I gotta say that to me, when I
46:22
heard him say that I go, that is
46:24
a winning kind of compelling message. You know,
46:26
that it's like yeah. That's right. We
46:28
quite literally in this case have to
46:30
clean up the policies of the previous
46:32
administration and it sure does suck that
46:34
that falls on us to have to
46:36
do. There's something about that that I
46:39
thought was like that's kind of hard
46:41
to argue with because otherwise if you
46:43
don't accept that then you no matter
46:45
how much you're against the illegal immigration
46:47
or you could say you're against it
46:49
your position is that once it happens
46:51
we just have to accept it. Once
46:53
it happens, it's like, okay, the
46:56
demographic makeup of our nation has
46:58
been changed by the last administration
47:00
and we cannot change that. We
47:02
have to accept that going forward.
47:04
And that's going to be a tough sell.
47:06
That's going to be a very tough
47:08
thing to convince anyone of, because
47:10
it would just be like, well, no, we
47:13
don't. I mean, we have the legal
47:15
tools to deal with this. So why
47:17
is it that you're just asserting it's
47:19
incumbent amongst us to just accept that
47:21
now? And I don't, that just doesn't make
47:23
sense to me. In the same way
47:25
that it never made sense to me,
47:28
that if there is a giant caravan
47:30
of people coming from South America, that
47:32
are just uninvited people, that
47:34
are not coming in through the
47:36
legal process of our immigration system,
47:39
but they're just coming here, why is
47:41
it that America has to accept
47:43
them? It just doesn't make sense
47:45
to me. It's like it's not it's like
47:48
what what under what obligation is
47:50
the principle that America belongs to
47:52
everybody in the world equally because
47:54
if that's your principle and yet
47:57
only American citizens can vote
47:59
in elections the most part, it
48:01
seems that you're going to lose
48:03
elections to anybody who says, I
48:06
think America belongs to the American
48:08
people, not the world equally, which
48:11
is, by the way, essentially the
48:13
core of Trump's message since 2016.
48:15
That's the reason why he's been
48:18
president twice. He's won two out
48:20
of three elections, three out of
48:23
three if you ask Trump. I'm
48:25
not sure I'm with them on
48:27
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49:51
right, we got one more video
49:54
here, you want to play that
49:56
one? I'm
50:03
All right, Rob. Well,
50:06
I started the show
50:08
saying that Democrats are
50:11
searching for their way
50:13
to get out of
50:16
this hole, and I
50:18
think they found it.
50:21
So there we go.
50:23
That's going to turn
50:26
people around, right? Jesus
50:29
Christ. I think not only they
50:31
floundering on all the policies, they
50:33
don't have a good salesperson for
50:35
it, and whatever marketing companies they're
50:37
overspending money with, as you saw
50:39
with Kamala Harris, I think she
50:41
ended up her camp, she spent
50:43
the most money ever, and then
50:45
still ended up in debt, and
50:48
in part because they spent a
50:50
ton of money on television advertising
50:52
who was even watching that. And
50:54
so whoever behind the scenes is
50:56
going, oh, well, this will be
50:58
fun. This is how we get
51:00
the kids back on her back
51:02
on her. It's with these goofy
51:04
TikTok videos because they're looking at
51:06
Trump and Trump just has that
51:08
cool factor that they tried to
51:10
wind him out of office with
51:12
the dignity dignity dignity as if
51:14
jumping in front of a camera
51:16
like a I don't know a
51:18
fourth grader could come up with
51:20
something more creative than that and
51:22
probably did on a school project
51:24
for TikTok. This is that they're
51:26
just floundering. They're just trying to
51:28
figure out how do we sell
51:30
our message and apparently being the
51:32
adults in the adults in the
51:34
room includes jumping around and putting
51:36
a... What is that a tech
51:38
and tag song? I don't even
51:40
know, but it's terrible. Yeah, it's
51:42
also like, isn't it funny? Because
51:45
look, 2016, Smash Bros., like Swar's
51:47
a bigger nerd than us. Swar's
51:49
got, you really should have waited
51:51
like at least 30 seconds, so
51:53
it seems like you Google that.
51:55
There's something funny, because like, oh,
51:57
okay, it's eight years. a little
51:59
over eight years since Donald Trump
52:01
won the his first presidential election
52:03
in 2016 and okay eight years
52:05
especially in our current political environment
52:07
is a fairly long period of
52:09
time, you know, in the 24-hour
52:11
news cycle or whatever, and a
52:13
lot of stuff's happened since then.
52:15
But it's kind of wild when
52:17
you zoom out that so much
52:19
of the criticism of Donald Trump
52:21
when he first came on the
52:23
scene was that he lacks decorum.
52:25
He's not serious. This is kind
52:27
of immature. This isn't how important
52:29
people are supposed to speak. And
52:31
then it's like, you just get...
52:33
So quickly to a point where
52:35
it's like, what are you guys
52:37
doing? Like this does it seems
52:39
like it's like an imitation of
52:42
what 20 year olds do on
52:44
TikTok or something like that like
52:46
this is arm and it's also
52:48
on top of that just so
52:50
unappealing this kind of like serious
52:52
women in pantsuits doing cringy fucking
52:54
like what what world are you
52:56
living in like it? It's amazing
52:58
that somehow the Democrats managed to
53:00
hand Donald Trump, the adult in
53:02
the room, persona. You know what
53:04
I mean? Like somehow he actually
53:06
does, and this was the case,
53:08
it was one of the things
53:10
that was so startling about this
53:12
last election, was that Donald Trump,
53:14
when compared to senile Joe Biden
53:16
or cackling Kamala Harris, seemed like
53:18
the serious alternative. Like at least
53:20
this guy is here and he
53:22
means business. and he's got a
53:24
little bit of an agenda and
53:26
he's got some thoughts of his
53:28
own and it's not just whatever
53:30
some big corporate donor told them
53:32
to say or whatever the popular
53:34
thing at the moment is like
53:37
he's got some ideas that just
53:39
seems more serious than anything that
53:41
the democrats are putting up against
53:43
him but my god i just
53:45
i it's hard it's generally hard
53:47
to even put into words how
53:49
unappealing that video is there's just
53:51
like a disgust impulse impulse impulse
53:53
that comes from watching that. They're
53:55
like, what the fuck are you
53:57
ladies doing? Like, what drugs are
53:59
you on? that you thought this
54:01
might resonate with anyone? It seems
54:03
like something that you'd like, like,
54:05
you're like adult children would be
54:07
like digging through their parents' stuff
54:09
and find a video from college
54:11
when they did something like that
54:13
and you go like a day,
54:15
the whole family laughs at it
54:17
and they're like, yeah, it's pretty
54:19
embarrassing in hindsight, but we were
54:21
20, you know, and it seemed
54:23
cool at the time. There's sitting
54:25
members of Congress are doing this?
54:27
I don't think it's gonna work.
54:30
I can't quite take what experience this
54:33
was or what this arc type is,
54:35
but I remember I'm going to call
54:37
them the pedophile moms that instead of
54:39
working jobs like to hang out at
54:41
the school for the school plays or
54:43
the school pictures, and even as like
54:45
a third grader, they'd come up with
54:48
some idea and you'd be like, yeah,
54:50
I'm not doing that. That's terrible. That's
54:52
what this video feels like. Yes, that
54:54
is a very good way to put
54:56
out. Yeah, the worst idea from the
54:58
theater kid mom. that did not go
55:01
that route and is now, you know,
55:03
doesn't work and shows up to the
55:05
school to volunteer for these things and
55:07
just has the worst idea so she
55:09
could have her one moment in the
55:11
director chair with three third graders. But
55:13
even those kids are smart enough to
55:16
be like, oh, this lady sucks. I
55:18
don't want to do that. It's like
55:20
the thing like when you're a third
55:22
grader and you have no real power.
55:24
But it's like the thing that one
55:26
of the like moms would suggest where
55:28
you'd be like, I will run away.
55:31
Listen, I will run away. Like, if
55:33
you make me do this, I swear
55:35
I will run away, I will go
55:37
on hunger strike, I will run away,
55:39
and I will never go to school
55:41
again. I cannot be seen doing this.
55:43
And they're like, no, come on, it's
55:46
cute. And you're like, you don't get
55:48
it. I cannot be seen doing this.
55:50
Like, it's genuinely that. That's where the
55:52
Democrats are at. It's look like, the
55:54
interesting thing here, right, right, right, is
55:56
that in order for the Democrats to
55:59
survive. in order for them to have
56:01
political success in the future. You know,
56:03
it's hard to predict the future. And
56:05
the truth is that nobody, Donald Trump
56:07
is not going to run again, as
56:09
scared as the Democrats are. This is
56:11
his last term. There is nobody in
56:14
line. who has what Donald Trump has.
56:16
Now we'll see what happens over the
56:18
next few years. J.D. Vance has obviously
56:20
risen tremendously in prominence. He is the
56:22
sitting vice president now and he's doing
56:24
a good job in moments like the
56:26
moment with Salinsky and moments like with
56:29
Dana Bash, where he's like showing that
56:31
he can kind of, I can go
56:33
to war with the people who you
56:35
think of as the other side. But
56:37
he's not Donald Trump. You know he
56:39
has never demonstrated that he has a
56:41
cult of personality following the way Donald
56:44
Trump does. He's never demonstrated that he
56:46
has tens of millions of people who
56:48
will go to war for him the
56:50
way Donald Trump has. Okay so there's
56:52
that. Someone else has to rise up
56:54
on the Republican side as well. But
56:57
it seems to me that almost what
56:59
the Democrats need is to some degree
57:01
their own version of Trump. And what
57:03
I mean by that is not that
57:05
they have to be anything like Donald
57:07
Trump. In fact... That is the complete
57:09
wrong mentality. I think that's the mentality
57:12
that a lot of Democrats are almost
57:14
like going with here. We got to
57:16
find someone like that. It's like the
57:18
day after the election they go, we
57:20
need our own Joe Rogan. We need
57:22
our own Donald Trump. That's not how
57:24
it works. Joe Rogan didn't become Joe
57:27
Rogan by trying to be anyone else's
57:29
thing. You know what I mean? It
57:31
wasn't like he was going, hey, we
57:33
need the podcast version of Dan Rather.
57:35
You know like one of the things
57:37
I was thinking of earlier is something
57:39
you said that just reminded me of
57:42
that but do you remember the when
57:44
Elizabeth Warren was doing that that video
57:46
in her living room and she's drinking
57:48
the beer but she drinks it in
57:50
such a weird way that you can
57:52
tell she does not usually have a
57:55
bottle of beer but like she's trying
57:57
to do the like and it's it's
57:59
like that's humor with the hamburgers when
58:01
it was there that he eats lizard
58:03
food and he's never cooked a burger
58:05
in his whole life. Yeah it was
58:07
like human just enjoying Memorial Day like
58:10
the rest of you because well it's
58:12
it was a funny thing with the
58:14
grill that's off. Well it's it's that
58:16
it's not just that the grill was
58:18
off but it's that there was there
58:20
was cheese over the raw patties and
58:22
you're like who's no one who's ever
58:25
made a burger. ever put a slice
58:27
of cheese over a raw paddy? Like
58:29
that's just not how it's done. It's
58:31
a little intricacy, I guess, if you've
58:33
never made a burger, it might take
58:35
you a minute to be like, oh,
58:37
okay, yeah, that makes sense. But like,
58:40
that's just not how it, you know?
58:42
And so there's little, but the whole
58:44
thing is that it's like, their mentality
58:46
is so off, because they're so phony.
58:48
So they're like, even Elizabeth Warren drinking
58:50
drinking the beer. after work. And that
58:53
is true, right? Like it is true
58:55
that beer is popular amongst the working
58:57
class. But look, Donald Trump just carried
58:59
the working class vote and he's never
59:01
had a beer. And in fact, he'll
59:03
openly say I've never had a drink
59:05
in my life. That is not most
59:08
Americans experience, but it really is Donald
59:10
Trump's experience. And so when he says
59:12
that it just comes off as authentic,
59:14
it's like, yeah, my older brother, who
59:16
I looked up to, killed himself with
59:18
alcohol. And I was just like, I'm
59:20
never gonna drink alcohol. And then all
59:23
of a sudden, you're not just like
59:25
trying to do the thing that is
59:27
what they do. But you were just,
59:29
you're, and then it's kind of like,
59:31
oh shit, that's an interesting part of
59:33
Donald Trump. Now it doesn't mean that
59:35
that, you know, working class guy who
59:38
enjoys a cold beer after work is
59:40
going to stop having a beer. but
59:42
it also it was completely unnecessary for
59:44
that so so anyway the point is
59:46
just that
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