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The last part of

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very important, but

2:12

we are recording

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a bunch of episodes

2:17

today as Penn prepares

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to leave for Australia,

2:22

and here he is

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preaching the

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love. penchalest.com.

2:28

And it's lifelong learning, you

2:31

learn from Werner Herzog,

2:33

Herzog. You probably learned

2:35

to say his name

2:38

when you go to

2:40

Masterclass. Last number one.

2:42

Not everybody could have the

2:44

name Steve Martin. Although more

2:47

people have the name Steve

2:49

Martin and Warner Herzog.

2:52

Although, maybe you were to

2:54

Herzog, it's a common name

2:56

in Germany, is it. No.

2:59

My friend Alex Bennett, my

3:01

friend Alex Bennett, who was

3:03

kind of a shockish-jockish

3:06

in San Francisco,

3:08

kind of the

3:10

Howard Stern equivalent

3:12

in the 80s, he did this

3:14

thing where he found a guy

3:17

named Hitler. He found a

3:19

guy living outside of

3:21

Chicago who had the surname

3:23

Hitler and called him. And

3:26

he said, yeah, it's kind of

3:28

a drug. Not worth a

3:30

hundred bucks to change it,

3:33

though. That's not that. Yeah,

3:35

he actually did change it,

3:37

but to bid laudan. Yeah.

3:39

It was like, right after

3:41

I clean out the garage,

3:43

I'm going to get that name

3:45

changed. I got a lot of

3:48

things I'm working on. Yeah.

3:50

Nice. Tony Johnson's giving us

3:52

a whole TV show. Whoa,

3:55

what's going on up here? I don't know.

3:57

I don't know. It was it

3:59

was exciting. It's exciting. He is,

4:01

where is Tony, Tony in

4:03

a concert? No, I think that's

4:06

a TV. I'm watching

4:08

the Royal Variety performance.

4:10

Oh, that's Royal

4:12

Variety. It's on, is

4:14

it on the live now?

4:16

Yeah, no, it's on now.

4:19

Starlight X, but it's actually

4:21

on mute because I'm

4:23

gonna watch it tomorrow

4:25

again anyway. Starlight Express

4:28

is on. people. Yeah,

4:30

I remember that stage. That's

4:32

where I walked out. You'll

4:35

see me walk out soon,

4:37

trying desperately not to step

4:40

on Vanessa Williams' train. Looking

4:42

forward to it. Yeah, well,

4:45

it's exciting in the

4:47

background there. Is this the

4:49

way it's starting? We start

4:52

Let Express? Yeah. They

4:54

have their finger on the

4:56

pulse of modern times. How

4:59

does it still exist? It

5:01

can't. Oh, it's being, it's

5:03

a reboot. Yeah. You think

5:05

that's bad? Like there's

5:08

more numbers from all

5:10

of her in this show.

5:12

Did they keep doing some

5:14

sort of holding cell

5:16

out the back? Well, okay.

5:19

Let's okay. Oh, good question,

5:21

Tony. Let's let's talk,

5:24

Tony. There is a

5:26

feeling of camarader. of

5:28

everyone pulling together for

5:30

the Royal Variety Show,

5:33

people from all different

5:36

kinds of show business,

5:38

come together and relate

5:41

and put this show on

5:43

as one unit. And I'm

5:45

not part of it. I

5:47

sit in a room the size

5:49

of Hurricane Carter's room,

5:52

sitting like Buddha, and

5:54

I eat snacks I

5:56

shouldn't eat. every four

5:59

hours. I poke my head

6:01

into the green room for

6:03

15 seconds that I go

6:06

back and sit down to

6:08

my little room doing

6:10

nothing. So yes, I would

6:12

rather, and I don't like

6:15

this about myself, I don't

6:17

think it's true about myself,

6:19

but it's what happens is

6:22

that I think I prefer to

6:24

sit in a room doing

6:27

nothing than to hobnob.

6:29

with my fellow wizards.

6:32

Taylor left the room

6:34

a little bit.

6:36

It almost seems

6:38

like if you

6:40

put me in

6:43

solitary confinement, I'd

6:45

be better than

6:47

Gen Pop, you know?

6:49

So we're stuck back

6:52

there for 15 hours,

6:54

right? And, oh, that's

6:56

Andrew Lloyd Weber. I

6:58

was very cruel, Andrew

7:00

Lloyd Weber, very cruel.

7:03

We were at a shindig for

7:05

Broadway superstars,

7:07

which in case you've

7:10

forgotten, I am. Which I need

7:12

to point out, because my

7:14

family always forgets. We're

7:17

sitting at the dinner table,

7:19

and my wife will say

7:21

in hushed tones, you know, he

7:24

was on Broadway. Talk

7:26

about somebody that she's

7:28

going to be seeing

7:30

or something. You know,

7:32

he did, he did

7:34

Broadway. He's actually a

7:37

Broadway star. He's

7:39

a Broadway performer.

7:41

And I feel odd because

7:43

what I want to say is

7:45

I was on Broadway three

7:48

times. You know, that other

7:50

guy you mentioned who was

7:53

on Broadway. He didn't

7:55

write the show and

7:57

starring it and producing

7:59

it. it was in his show

8:01

and his name wasn't in the

8:04

mother fucking title. And he didn't

8:06

run his, he didn't run

8:08

his partner over with a

8:10

truck either. Exactly, exactly. And

8:12

he doesn't even roll or

8:14

skate like a train. Exactly.

8:17

If she said what she

8:19

really meant, which is like

8:21

I'm meeting up with so

8:23

and so and he sometimes

8:25

expresses his emotion through song

8:27

through song instead of words. in

8:29

a way that other people find compelling.

8:32

He expresses, he expresses

8:34

other people's feelings with songs. Right,

8:36

yeah, yeah, yeah. I have expressed

8:39

my old feelings with song, he

8:41

expresses other people's feelings with this

8:43

song. Because then, then you're kind

8:45

of saying that like when we

8:47

meet up for dinner, I'm hoping

8:49

he'll accidentally sing to me.

8:51

I'm hoping he'll accidentally. It's

8:53

so wound up, he might just start

8:56

singing right there at the table.

8:58

But it's so weird

9:00

to have someone

9:02

refer in hush

9:04

reverent tones to

9:06

you about something

9:08

you did. You know,

9:11

it's like you're sitting

9:13

with Buzz Aldrin

9:15

and you're talking

9:17

about somebody later

9:19

who went, oh,

9:22

he went to

9:24

space. I'm meeting up

9:26

with Broken Later

9:28

and they're staying

9:30

at the Rio. Anyway,

9:32

when I was on Broadway,

9:35

they have these shindings

9:37

for Broadway people. So

9:39

at the time, it

9:42

would be me sitting

9:44

there with like, you

9:46

know, Patty LaPone and,

9:48

you know, I forgot

9:50

all the other Broadway

9:53

stars. So we're there, you know, it

9:55

was like Nichols, Nichols B, which

9:57

the show I've never even

9:59

learned. to say the name of

10:01

by the way by the way

10:03

Nicholas Nicholsby whatever the

10:06

name of that show

10:08

is um they would

10:10

talk about how how

10:13

long it was and how

10:15

hard everyone worked in the

10:17

show so I asked

10:19

somebody the person who

10:21

speaks the most in

10:23

Nicholas Nicholsby how many pages

10:25

of dialogue do they have

10:28

over the full show guess what

10:30

two -thirds what I have

10:32

you should give some of

10:34

those to tell her such a

10:36

burden okay so we're sitting

10:38

or or you can quit whining

10:40

about it either you

10:48

don't see Matt and I

10:50

complaining about our lines on Broadway

10:56

okay uh the point

10:58

is well taken um so

11:01

I am at this

11:03

Shindig with uh Andrew Lloyd Webber

11:06

and Andrew Lloyd Webber

11:08

is getting on my nerves

11:11

okay we're

11:14

chatting and he's

11:16

getting on my nerves okay that's

11:19

all that's happening so I

11:21

decide um well

11:24

I don't really decide it just kind

11:26

of happens but I

11:28

become a massive

11:30

prick and my way of

11:32

being a massive prick

11:34

is not to insult him I

11:36

stay very polite and

11:38

very kind but this is

11:41

a Shindig that will be

11:43

covered in all the

11:45

press because all the Broadway

11:47

stars are getting together for

11:49

something very very important that

11:51

I have forgotten Hehehehehehehehehehehe!

11:55

and

11:57

every time a

11:59

photographer comes and says, um, whatever

12:01

they say, Mr. Weber, Mr. Lloyd Weber,

12:04

Sir Weber, I don't know what the

12:06

money is. And then Penn, because he

12:08

gets called like, whatever he is,

12:10

seriously, and I get called Penn,

12:12

because who gives the fuck about

12:14

you? You were on Broadway, but

12:17

even your wife doesn't care. That's

12:19

what they were saying. I would say

12:21

to him, let's stand up for the

12:23

picture. Every single time. Let's

12:25

stand up for the picture.

12:27

Let's stand up for the

12:29

picture. Let's stand up with

12:32

the picture. So every single

12:34

picture from that shindig

12:36

is B standing next

12:38

to a make-a-wish child

12:40

who is aging very

12:42

fast. Is that when

12:44

you looked like you

12:47

liked assassins? No, he

12:49

didn't write assassins.

12:51

Oh, I thought he did.

12:53

No, no, no, no. That's

12:55

Stephen Sondheim. Oh, okay. Well,

12:57

tell him how much you

12:59

like to say. His most

13:02

recent musical is an adaptation

13:04

of School of Rock. Is

13:07

that true? What needs to

13:09

be modernized or

13:11

re-examined? Children entering

13:14

a battle of the bands

13:16

with a substitute teacher

13:18

for a singer. I

13:20

think there are checks

13:22

involved. At one point. Asset

13:25

gets on the substitute's

13:27

face and you have

13:29

to wear a mask

13:31

over it. Yeah, we're

13:33

rocking so hard that

13:36

sheer delir's gonna fall.

13:38

Instead of battle of

13:40

a band, it's a

13:42

battle of show tunes

13:44

and show choirs. That's

13:47

what it is this

13:49

time. It's it's a

13:51

battle of house pets

13:53

who all sing. Andrew Lloyd

13:55

Weber, what I want to be,

13:57

see this is the thing Prince.

14:00

protected against. See,

14:02

Prince was talking to me,

14:04

we're having a good time,

14:06

having a great time, and

14:09

then Prince said, when there

14:11

are any photographers anywhere

14:13

around or any pictures

14:15

might be taken, you

14:17

say at least 20 yards away

14:19

from him. And David Cassidy,

14:22

who when I was hosting a

14:24

talk show, David Cassidy came

14:26

on, he walked on. He

14:28

walked on. I shook his hand and

14:30

his manager ran on and said,

14:33

cut, cut. This is the show

14:35

that's being shot live today, right?

14:37

Cut, cut, cut. What? And he

14:39

came over and said, you don't

14:41

stand up when David Cassidy

14:44

comes out to shake his

14:46

hand. I said, well, I was

14:48

raised to stand up when

14:50

you're shaking someone's hand. And

14:52

they said, no, it looks like he's

14:55

too little. So I had to

14:57

sit down to shake his

14:59

hand. Okay. And Lord

15:01

Michael said, when you're

15:04

talking to Paul Simon,

15:06

don't put your hands

15:09

on your knees when you

15:11

lean over to hear him.

15:13

And I said, but I'm

15:15

a little deaf. And he

15:17

said, if that picture gets

15:20

out of you talking

15:22

to him, like he's

15:24

a leprecon. So Prince

15:27

David Cassidy, Paul Simon,

15:29

I was respectful.

15:32

Andrew Lloyd Weber, I

15:34

said, let's stand up,

15:36

take a picture. Come on,

15:38

stand up, come on, stand

15:41

up, every time, every time.

15:43

And I'm telling you, the

15:45

man is not a large

15:48

man. As a matter of

15:50

fact, I could have turned

15:52

to my left and put

15:54

my cock directly to his

15:57

mouth. Now that would be

15:59

a dis- respectful picture. It

16:01

would be. I'm just saying I didn't

16:03

do that. Who's on now? This

16:05

is Sophie Ellis, Pexter. Well,

16:08

this I'm sort of

16:10

rippling a lot of ribbons action.

16:12

Lots of ribbon twirling. You know, when

16:14

we do these casinos

16:19

all over North America,

16:21

backstage of

16:24

the ones in Canada, it's

16:27

really great because there are

16:29

pictures. know, they do all different

16:31

things. These casinos come up

16:33

with the most bullshit fucking things

16:35

to do. There's one of

16:38

the places we play backstage. They've

16:40

got guitars on the wall

16:42

signed by everyone. OK, so

16:44

you think, wow, they've got

16:47

like ZZ tops guitar. Wow,

16:49

they've got and then you're looking at

16:51

it and you go, oh. They've

16:53

got Chris Rock's guitar. And

16:57

then you go into your dressing room and

16:59

there's a guitar there. And they say, would

17:01

you sign this for us? So

17:10

what I previously thought

17:12

was, oh, that's Pete

17:14

Townsend's guitar is just they

17:16

are buying, you know, epiphone

17:19

factory seconds, right?

17:22

Yes, having everyone sign them

17:24

to decorate their walls. Then

17:26

there's another casino we played

17:28

where they had symbols. Like

17:31

how's it pronounced? Rich Paste

17:33

or is it Pace symbols?

17:35

Everybody I hear says, says

17:37

pasty pasty. OK, so

17:40

it's not past day or

17:42

pasty pasty. OK, they have

17:44

pasty symbols and you walk in

17:46

and you go, oh, great. All the

17:48

drummers left a symbol here, which

17:50

they would never do. Drummers will

17:53

use a rental kit where they

17:55

always have their own symbols, right?

17:57

They always do. So they would never

17:59

do that. And then when you

18:01

go in your dressing room

18:03

and it says, please sign

18:05

this symbol. Now you go

18:08

there and these casinos, some

18:10

of them have fucking money

18:12

coming out of their sacred

18:14

burial grounds. I mean, wow,

18:16

they are so fucking rich.

18:18

So backstage at this like

18:20

conference room theater, you'll see

18:22

like Zizzy Top and you

18:25

know. Madonna and stuff back

18:27

there a sign. And some

18:29

of them have like hundreds,

18:31

high hundreds of eight by

18:33

tens backstage sign. Those that

18:35

didn't want to do symbols

18:37

or guitars, right? Backstage there.

18:39

And so you got nothing

18:42

to do backstage. You walk

18:44

along. Oh yeah, Frankie Valley.

18:46

Oh, this is great. Oh,

18:48

it's the turtles. I'll take

18:50

a picture of me next

18:52

to that and I'll send

18:54

it to Howard. Oh, it's

18:56

Debbie. Oh, it's Debbie again.

18:59

Laundy played here a lot.

19:01

Let's take pictures there. Said

19:03

those two. Oh, it's BB

19:05

King. This is great. And

19:07

then every six pictures, you

19:09

go, who the fuck is

19:11

that? And Bled says, beloved

19:13

Canadian. Beloved Canadian. Every fifth

19:16

picture is someone that no

19:18

one, including Canadians, has ever

19:20

heard of. But they're playing

19:22

there. So when you're doing

19:24

the Royal Variety Show. You

19:26

look out on stage and

19:28

go, oh, Vanessa Williams. Oh,

19:30

yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's cool.

19:33

Elton John. Oh, that's great.

19:35

Tony better. Oh, that's great.

19:37

Who? And Glenn says, Beloved

19:39

Canadian. Pretty Davies. He did

19:41

a show in England that

19:43

was one of the weirdest

19:45

ass experiences ever. The gag

19:47

on the show was... People

19:50

in showbiz are going to

19:52

learn another line of show

19:54

business, right? So they had

19:56

this. this guy

19:58

from a

20:00

boy band, you

20:02

know, some just, you know, attractive

20:04

fit, personable, who

20:08

was gonna learn to do a magic trick. So

20:10

we were brought in to teach him

20:12

a magic trick, right? I think

20:14

he did an upside down straight

20:17

check in the scaper's app. And

20:19

we teach him and the thing

20:21

is they put a package together,

20:23

right? That shows us teaching him.

20:25

That's why we're doing it to

20:27

get asses in the seat. And

20:29

then he performs and competes against

20:32

other people. So there was another

20:34

singer who was learning to do

20:36

ventriloquism, right? There was

20:38

a dancer that was learning to sing.

20:40

There was a comic, was learning

20:42

to do acrobatics or something. And

20:45

then there was a

20:47

singer, I think, who

20:49

was learning to do impressions. Now

20:52

the singer who was learning

20:54

to do impressions won. They

20:57

absolutely killed. And the impressions

20:59

they were doing, Teller and

21:01

I did not recognize any

21:03

of them. She

21:06

was a guy

21:08

going, how about this? And

21:10

now I lived with

21:12

Thor and who was there

21:15

but a guy with candy. And

21:17

the audience goes crazy. And

21:20

you go, what the

21:22

fuck's he doing? And the other people

21:24

in the room go, wow, that was really good. That

21:26

was perfect. And you go,

21:29

wow, what just happened? He did

21:31

impersonations of six people. We

21:33

didn't know who any of them

21:35

were. They

21:37

reminded me of a great

21:39

comic named Wayne Cotter. Who's a

21:41

great, you know Wayne little? Good Cotter,

21:43

my age, my

21:46

age. Wayne

21:48

Cotter, and I guess other people must have

21:50

done this in their act would do

21:52

impressions of people from his

21:54

high school. Yeah. Makes

21:57

me laugh so much. So.

22:00

here's mr. Williams our shop

22:02

teacher yeah and it was

22:04

so funny was like this

22:06

magazine that came out in

22:08

the 70s which I've talked

22:10

about before I wish someone

22:12

would find it must be

22:14

online somewhere it's a magazine

22:16

called Injokes was a fanzine

22:19

you know the Xerox fanzines

22:21

I went up before the

22:23

internet you get on the

22:25

subscription it was called Injokes

22:27

the subtitle was you can't

22:29

possibly get it And people

22:31

would send in jokes they

22:33

had with their friends with

22:35

no context and no explanation

22:38

whatsoever. So we saw the

22:40

hedgehog and there were only

22:42

four of them. Yeah. And

22:44

I loved it so much.

22:46

I went down the rabbit

22:48

hole with shows like Tajikistan's

22:50

got talent. Oh yeah. Where

22:52

you watch the impersonators in

22:54

a different language you have

22:57

no idea who they're doing

22:59

It's fabulous, isn't it? And

23:01

you I thought you were

23:03

going to say I thought

23:05

you said smell me Was

23:07

it that you're in joke

23:09

that you have up in

23:11

your bathroom? Yeah, no one

23:13

can get yeah, with Jesus

23:16

saying it. Yeah, I just

23:18

I just absolutely absolutely love

23:20

that We did a bit

23:22

in the show where I

23:24

was handcuffed to tell her

23:26

And it was rather well,

23:28

it was a well-known bit.

23:30

The first time we were

23:32

on Broadway. And I did

23:35

sing. I sang in that

23:37

pet, actually. I mean, I

23:39

know you said that as

23:41

a joke, but I actually

23:43

did. Started out and be

23:45

singing. And my feelings, incidentally.

23:47

And I had a line

23:49

there that... Mark Garland, there's

23:51

my friends in high school,

23:54

I know we're, oh that's,

23:56

we're back, we're talking to

23:58

him backstate about doing magic.

24:00

Who's that guy? Tony, who's

24:02

that guy? Stephen Mulhern. He's

24:04

a really good guy. I

24:06

like him. I wouldn't make

24:08

him stand up to take

24:11

a picture with me. Anyway.

24:13

And I would look over

24:15

and tell her during the

24:17

bit. We were supposed to

24:19

be strangers. And I would say,

24:21

this is great. This is

24:23

terrific. What is this? And

24:25

Mark Garland, who has

24:27

known me since high school.

24:29

We've been very good friends,

24:32

said to me, if I had to

24:34

sum up your personality in

24:36

one moment, it's, this is

24:38

great, this is terrific, what is

24:40

this? He said, you are never

24:43

happier than when you don't understand

24:45

something. He said, when you listen

24:47

to a piece of music, you

24:49

have no idea what's going on.

24:51

He said, you are just in

24:54

heaven. When people are talking about

24:56

shit, you don't understand, you

24:58

are pleased. No one is

25:01

happier about being left out

25:03

than you are. So I really

25:05

enjoyed that, that in

25:07

jokes thing, very much

25:09

enjoyed. But let's get, we

25:11

get all these people and

25:14

they all sit in here and

25:16

some of them have questions

25:18

I think. Yes, Robey Nealey.

25:20

Let me just, let me

25:23

just suggest that you change

25:25

your last name right now

25:28

to Wade. What's up Robey?

25:30

What's going on? Where are you? Where

25:32

the hell are you? Well now I'm

25:34

in Laverne, Texas, right next to Bernie

25:37

County, or Bear County. The last time

25:39

we talked I was in Odessa. But

25:41

you stay right in Texas. Yeah,

25:43

I'm in Texas. And are you

25:45

wearing a Muppets t-shirt? An Oscar

25:48

the Grouch t-shirt. Oscar the Grouch.

25:50

Oscar the Grouch. Now you know

25:52

Oscar the Grouch, Drake. You know,

25:54

you know you sesame stuff. I

25:57

know my sesame stuff, yes. I

25:59

am familiar. I

26:01

guess everybody in the world is supposed to be familiar

26:03

with Oscar the grouch But I couldn't bring his

26:05

name to my could you Matt? Yes.

26:08

Okay. I think everybody everybody

26:10

knows what's what's having with

26:12

him. He's on Sesame Street

26:18

And what what room are you

26:20

in is this a room where

26:22

you do really unsuccessful green screen

26:24

shooting? No This

26:28

is my new studio that I've just put

26:30

together the last time that we talked

26:32

on the very first zoom You

26:35

brought up the fact that I

26:37

know with a recording studio and doing

26:39

self -recording if I If I

26:42

had two million dollars, who

26:44

would I hire? Well,

26:46

I came into just about that amount of

26:48

money And

26:51

ask me ask me So

26:54

instead of hiring somebody I bought

26:56

a house started

26:58

a business with my

27:01

brother and Now

27:03

have plenty time all day

27:05

to write and to teach myself

27:07

better me missed musicianship and

27:10

recording And I built myself this

27:12

nice large studio and of

27:14

course just purchased great equipment to

27:16

go along with it None

27:18

of the cheap stuff anymore Did

27:20

you see when you said

27:23

bought equipment? Did you see

27:25

ready rich start prairie dogging? Start

27:28

looking around what equipment you

27:30

buy that ready rich cares about

27:33

I don't know a couple

27:35

of guitars Couple of

27:37

guitars a new one a new

27:39

interface New mixer

27:41

brand new computer made specifically

27:44

for sound production But

27:46

you did it or it's a real question. Did

27:49

you buy any pedals?

27:54

No, I did buy a new

27:56

family that has a lot of pedal

27:58

settings on it Well,

28:01

you know, I haven't got

28:03

to the pedals yet. I'm still

28:05

I'm still doing all the

28:07

other stuff. You know, well, congratulations

28:09

on coming into all that

28:11

money. I also want to tell

28:13

you people who start business

28:15

with their brothers always go under

28:17

just so you know. Brother

28:19

in law. Brother in law. That's

28:22

better chance. Yeah. Since

28:25

we've just we've gotten along most of our

28:27

life. We're like, you know what, we're tired

28:29

of working hard. Let's find something else to

28:31

do. And we figured it out between us

28:33

with our skills. But

28:35

I also had a question about cameo.

28:37

Okay. Last time we talked, I talked about

28:39

doing a cameo having you do a

28:41

cameo that I would put on the front

28:43

of every one of my videos. Now,

28:46

when I go to sign up

28:48

for the cameo, is it just

28:50

generally telling you what I'm looking

28:52

for? Or can you give suggestions

28:54

for? Oh, sure. You can even

28:57

give me a script. But you

28:59

know, there's an easier way to

29:01

do this, because I think you've

29:03

already done that. If you're a

29:05

Patreon person, I'll do a video

29:07

for you. Won't I, Matt? Yes,

29:10

it's supposed to be supposed to be

29:12

the same certain tier. But yeah, I'm

29:14

not in that tier. Oh, well, then

29:16

you can do it a cameo, just

29:18

give me a script and I'll do

29:21

it. All right. It won't be a

29:23

full script, but it'll be suggestions, because

29:25

I still wanted to tangulate. Sure, I'll

29:27

do it easy. It's supposed to be

29:29

the same price as the other as

29:31

cameo. So what happened here? Did I

29:33

do something wrong? The tier on the

29:35

Patreon supposed to be the same as

29:37

cameo. That's the whole idea. But is

29:39

cameo a one -time payment or is

29:41

that here? You can make Patreon a

29:43

one -time payment too. Yeah, I could, yeah.

29:45

All right. I'm done with my customer

29:47

service. Hi, everybody.

29:49

Thank you. I'll figure it out. Okay.

29:51

Thanks a lot, Toby. I

29:55

just like that.

29:57

So, Goodo, if you

30:00

had... billion dollars. What would you

30:02

do? Well, I wouldn't be here.

30:04

You'd never hear from me

30:06

again. In case you're wondering

30:09

what are we plus to get

30:11

rid of me. I'll be gone

30:13

for 1.2 just so you know.

30:15

That Dolly, what would you do

30:17

with 2 million dollars? I would call

30:19

it my nearest brother-in-law

30:21

and we started a

30:24

business together. You don't have

30:26

one brother-in-law. I

30:28

have, no, let's go, yeah, I

30:30

have one, I have two brother-in-laws.

30:32

I got a lot of sister-in-laws.

30:34

I have two brother-in-laws. But I

30:37

mean, I don't, you're all boys in

30:39

your family, but I mean, that doesn't

30:41

mean they couldn't have a gay marriage.

30:43

That's true, but I have a sister

30:45

who's in Paris. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So

30:47

it's five boys and one girl, and

30:50

then I do have a brother-in-in-in-law

30:52

through my marriage. And I can't

30:54

wait to go to business with

30:56

either of them. They're both top

30:58

shelf guys. So maybe I'll do both

31:01

and maybe make it four

31:03

million. Yeah, brother-in-law is a couper.

31:05

They want to know what a couper

31:08

is? Yes, makes barrels. That's it exactly.

31:10

He makes wine barrel. I will

31:12

tell you, I'll tell you why I

31:14

know that. It's good deal. We used

31:16

to do a bit called the barrel,

31:19

where I was in a barrel on

31:21

stage. And there was no people on

31:23

stage, I always wanted to write a

31:26

bit, no people on stage. I'm in

31:28

a barrel and I'm talking, and

31:30

I say, oh, that's a nice,

31:32

and I, the talking is supposed

31:35

to be someone in the audience

31:37

watching this, commenting on it, right? So

31:39

I say, oh, that's a good barrel.

31:41

Excellent, Cooperich. Yeah.

31:43

And who we mentioned earlier,

31:45

Alex Bennett saw the show and

31:48

said, I think that if you just

31:50

gave me a script, of your show

31:52

and blocked out everything except

31:54

excellent cooperage. I'd be

31:56

able to tell the

31:58

petulant rope. And

32:03

you know, Handsome Jack is writing

32:05

like the seven volume thing. I just

32:07

said this when I was talking

32:09

to Sarah and it explains how

32:11

all our tricks are done. It's going

32:13

to be coming out every single secret we

32:15

have is going to be published. And

32:17

we both want that. And

32:20

Handsome Jack

32:22

said, there's only one question

32:24

that I cannot get answered properly from

32:26

you. And that is how you do

32:28

the trick with a camel in it

32:30

without talking about drama dairies for 10

32:33

minutes. But

32:38

speaking of Coopridge and lifelong

32:40

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33:21

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33:34

any? Have you started one since

33:36

the Warner Herzog? I have not.

33:38

I still have other stuff to talk

33:40

about with Warner. OK, what do you want

33:43

to talk about Warner? The last half

33:45

hour of it is amazing. He he took

33:47

so much, but he was talking about

33:49

festivals. And I

33:51

wanted some of your experience with festivals. His

33:54

main point was do them once and

33:56

walk away. If you spend

33:58

100 festivals. promoting the same

34:00

movie you could have made three more movies in

34:02

that time. Yeah that's

34:04

really it's really expensive

34:06

uh to do uh I mean expensive

34:08

in terms of time to do those

34:11

and Warner Herzog

34:13

I was in a festival and

34:15

so was he I was promoting

34:17

um the aristocrats and he

34:19

was promoting I think it might have

34:21

been his bear movie it was out

34:23

there and I am on

34:25

the dais in this panel and

34:28

Warner stands up and says

34:30

pen do you think it's

34:32

right that they don't allow

34:34

certain animal sex on TV does

34:39

he explain why he would ask

34:41

a question like that to me

34:45

no oh actually

34:47

he does he does

34:49

he talks about uh if everybody in the

34:51

world is driving then walk the city and

34:53

you'll see a different perspective and be able

34:55

to talk about that in your film well

34:58

that's nice I gotta

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uh

35:50

what other questions we got here uh

35:53

let's see Ryan Anderson is here I

35:55

am hello Ryan how are we

35:57

where are you at uh we're in

35:59

uh And in

36:01

Minnesota, you just got two million dollars

36:03

to and bought a self a

36:05

studio and that's your guitar I did

36:07

but then I woke up and

36:09

I'm still poor You have a is

36:11

that a rat -fink logo on your

36:14

guitar? It is. It's a big

36:16

rat -fink patch and the guitar It's

36:18

an old a K guitar

36:20

Mm -hmm. I don't know probably the

36:22

60s. It was my grandfather's Has

36:25

Madonna signed it? Nobody's

36:27

allowed to sign it Are

36:30

you a big dad? Yes, I am

36:32

a big fix that I am a big

36:34

Ed and Ed Roth fan I actually

36:36

got his autograph and I got to meet

36:38

him in like 1994 at a car

36:40

show with my father. Oh my

36:42

goodness Why don't you tell us

36:44

all about Ed Roth because I'd

36:46

like to know more about him Well,

36:50

he was a

36:52

An artist he did

36:55

cartoons like literally

36:57

car cartoons The big

36:59

weirdos was this thing

37:01

Giant monsters sticking out of

37:03

the top of cars

37:05

and then he actually designed

37:07

and built cars themselves

37:09

these prototype Show cars that

37:11

were just totally totally

37:13

off the wall And he made

37:15

he He's not a southern

37:17

California, right? I believe so.

37:20

Yeah Part of the kind of

37:22

a surf culture and didn't

37:24

invent a whole rat -fink Phenomenon

37:26

that happened in the 60s. Yep.

37:28

Yep. They even had records. Yeah,

37:30

it was mr. Gaster and the

37:33

weirdos Vinyl records

37:35

that were pretty popular and

37:37

my dad grew up in that that era He

37:39

was a kid and then you know got

37:41

into hot rotting because of that So

37:44

we bonded over that pretty well,

37:46

and he had kind of this

37:48

combination of Hot rod and beatnik

37:50

thing, right? Yeah Kind of a

37:52

kind of a beret and a

37:54

goatee guy. Yeah One

37:58

of his cars was the beatnik bandit And

38:01

the Batmobile and

38:03

the Monkeymobile were

38:05

both inspired

38:08

by Big Daddy Roth, weren't they Ken? I

38:10

think it was Barris who built those,

38:12

and I think Roth worked for him.

38:14

I don't know if it was at the same

38:16

time, but I know he worked for Barris at

38:18

one point. See? Well,

38:21

Ryan knows this shit. We just

38:23

got out of him. I'll ask you

38:25

another question. Who owns

38:27

one of the TV

38:29

Batmobiles? It's

38:31

a football player owns one of them. Right,

38:34

but one of them is owned by

38:36

a guy in Las Vegas. Oh, really?

38:38

Is it? Who is it? A guy

38:40

who can't drive. David

38:45

Copperfield. Not

38:49

surprised. He owns

38:51

one of the Batmobiles. And I think

38:53

I knew who owned the Monkeymobile too,

38:55

but I forgot. You know who owns

38:57

the Monkeymobile? No.

39:01

I didn't know about it. Yeah, well

39:03

Big Daddy Roth is

39:05

just a little bit too

39:07

young to really have the...

39:09

How old is your dad?

39:12

He passed away a few years

39:14

ago, but he was born

39:16

in 1950. Yeah. So I'm

39:19

about five years too

39:21

young to be right in the

39:23

pocket of Big Daddy Roth. I'm

39:25

a little more hippy. He's

39:27

a little more beatnik. He's

39:29

right kind of in that

39:31

area of that Southern California

39:34

thing of our culture coupled

39:36

with existential angst, coupled with

39:38

Hollywood monsters. Great combination.

39:42

But I'm just talking about

39:44

what's on your wall. You actually

39:46

had a question. Yeah, I did.

39:48

It's funny, it's art -related. So

39:51

you had spoken in the past

39:53

about how you can't visualize things like...

39:55

Not well, no. That, you

39:57

know, I think the example you used

39:59

was... of a house and I'll

40:01

close your eyes how many windows does

40:03

the house have. Right. Being that I'm

40:05

a visual artist I'm just fascinated

40:07

by that concept and how

40:09

that's affected because you're an

40:11

artist. I mean you're what

40:13

you do pen and teller

40:15

is definitely art performance art

40:17

and how that's affected that

40:20

and then I mean in school at some

40:22

point you had to have an art class and how

40:24

did that go? I did have

40:26

an art class it went badly

40:29

like most of my classes. I

40:32

want to stress it's not

40:34

that I have no visual memory

40:36

it's that my visual memory

40:38

is very very bad and I

40:40

don't have face blindness I

40:42

just have a very

40:45

very bad visual memory so

40:47

when you ask to rotate

40:49

objects in space that's where

40:51

it really shows how stupid I

40:53

am. If you give me

40:55

a drawing from one angle

40:57

and say what would this look like

41:00

turned 90 degrees I

41:02

have no idea what you're talking

41:04

about and the way I function

41:06

with that is I describe things

41:08

to myself as I see

41:10

them so I see

41:12

the world third person

41:14

so when I first knew

41:16

Matt Donnelly for

41:19

instance and he

41:21

had not burned himself into my memory which

41:23

takes a long time and if I

41:25

was going to meet him like when I

41:27

met to meet you at town square

41:29

and you were working at Brio whatever it

41:31

was and I knew I had to

41:33

see him I would the last time I

41:35

saw him write a description

41:38

of him in my mind

41:40

you know about the height

41:42

about the weight shoulders

41:44

facial hair haircut eye

41:46

color I tell myself that

41:48

it's no problem to remember

41:50

that entire description so

41:53

I think other

41:55

people look and perceive I

41:57

recognize that I look describe

42:00

it, compare it to what I

42:02

memorized, and then recognize it. You did

42:04

actually not recognize me one at the

42:07

time when we chatted early on our

42:09

friendship. I went to see the green

42:11

room taping, where you and Tommy Smothers,

42:13

and Paul Provenza, and I came up

42:16

and talked to you after the

42:18

recording was over, and you just, and

42:20

I just made a comment about how

42:22

it went or whatever, and you started

42:24

talking about how it went or whatever,

42:27

and you started talking about the room.

42:29

And then I said, okay, and you go,

42:31

I'm going to go to the Green Room

42:33

now, but nice talking with you. And

42:36

I was like, I'm going to

42:38

the Green Room too. And I

42:40

was like, with Emily. And then

42:42

your face, like, really, I felt

42:44

so terrible. I felt terrible that

42:46

you felt terrible in that moment.

42:48

You didn't recognize you were talking

42:51

to me at Green Room. That's

42:53

not nearly as bad as when I

42:55

would have, you know, years ago, I

42:57

would have a girlfriend. that I

42:59

would meet in a city and go

43:01

out with. And then a week

43:03

later, she would fly in to meet

43:06

me. And I'd be at the

43:08

airport is way before TSA ready

43:10

to pick her up. And I'd

43:12

be standing there waiting

43:14

for her flight for someone flying

43:16

in to see me and to

43:19

sleep with me. And she'd walk

43:21

directly up to me and walk

43:23

up to me and I would

43:25

stand there looking around. Because

43:28

she tied her hair back

43:31

or put on a hat

43:33

or had no idea.

43:35

And then she has

43:37

to say, hello, I'm Kathy.

43:39

And I go, oh yeah,

43:42

so good to see

43:44

you. Oh, so I've

43:46

been so excited about

43:49

seeing you. And she

43:51

would say, so excited

43:53

that you didn't recognize

43:55

me? Looks really bad. And

43:58

so there you have. playing.

44:00

Nice. Then,

44:05

yeah, that later I rotated

44:07

her in space. And

44:11

that went well. But yes, it's

44:14

a really goofy thing. And the,

44:16

the example I always use

44:18

is when I'm going to

44:20

go somewhere, like, I'll be going to

44:22

Australia, I'll be playing in Sydney next month. And

44:25

when I go to Sydney, I know

44:27

that my dear, dear

44:29

friends, Rob and Renee will

44:31

be there. And

44:33

I have, I

44:35

have descriptions of them. So when

44:37

they come up, I'll recognize them

44:39

instantly. I was at the

44:41

Four Seasons in LA,

44:44

waiting for an elevator. And

44:46

Rob and Renee walked up and I stood

44:48

next to them with no idea who

44:50

they were. And these are people

44:53

I've known for 30 years. I

44:56

was in Boston. And

44:58

my mother came to the show to

45:00

surprise me. So she didn't

45:02

tell me she was coming. I

45:04

didn't know my family was coming. I

45:07

was just happily signing autographs

45:09

after the show. And

45:11

my mother came up, put a

45:13

piece of paper in my hand, and

45:16

said, Why don't you just sign

45:18

this to your mother? And

45:20

I looked at her and went, Mom! So

45:26

yes, my mother, my mother

45:28

walked up to me and no

45:30

recognition at all. But I

45:32

needed to tell that story to

45:35

the woman at the airport

45:37

before I didn't recognize her at

45:39

the airport. What

45:44

I find is that you recognize voices.

45:46

And so if I'm going to run

45:48

into you somewhere out at the mall,

45:50

I will talk to you right away.

45:52

I'll say, Hey, Ben, how's it going,

45:54

buddy? What are you doing? And you'll

45:56

go, Oh, that's good. And

45:59

that's also explains why when

46:01

someone shaves or cuts

46:03

their hair, I go crazy.

46:06

It's like they've taken away

46:08

everything. You know, Mark

46:10

Garland previously mentioned Mark

46:12

Garland, we were in San Francisco.

46:14

He'd been my friend then, I mean, really my

46:16

whole life, my closest friend. And

46:19

he had a beard and he

46:21

shaved it and got in the elevator with me.

46:23

We were riding on the elevator. I'm

46:26

looking right at him. I recognized him after

46:28

like six floors, but I didn't know

46:30

what to do with it. I just knew

46:32

that he was horribly deformed. So,

46:36

you know, Matt Donnelly's kind. Matt,

46:38

you call me up and say, I've shaved

46:40

my beard when you see me today. Yes,

46:43

I've shaved in advance. I do. So

46:46

it is, yeah, there's

46:48

no way I

46:50

could ever recognize your children. No, no,

46:52

no. But no, I'm saying my kids, like if I cut

46:54

my beard short or whatever, I trim it. They'll say, is

46:56

that short enough that you have to have worn a pen?

46:59

I go, no, I think this is still okay. Oh,

47:04

it's terrible. And,

47:07

you know, when I was dating

47:09

Debbie Herry, Debbie

47:12

is very fashion. So

47:14

I remember Debbie showed up one night

47:16

to go out. She was wearing

47:18

a wig and she showed up

47:20

and I went, I don't

47:22

know if I have

47:24

time to get comfortable with

47:26

you like this. I

47:28

won't be comfortable all evening. And

47:31

she said, I have to take off the wig

47:33

to go out with you. And I said, every

47:36

time I look at you, I'm uncomfortable. I

47:39

can't. So we either have to sit

47:41

and talk for like an hour so I

47:43

get to meet you like this, or

47:45

we just can't go out. And

47:47

Debbie went, okay, went to the bathroom,

47:49

took off her wig, combed her hair out, she came

47:52

out and I was like, ah, Debbie, so good

47:54

to see you. Herry

47:56

the girl just writes in chat. So

47:58

Penn, it's no problem. with the idea

48:00

that Superman's disguise is just a

48:03

pair of glasses. Yeah. Yeah. But

48:07

you know, do you know this thing?

48:10

It's like the hippest thing ever. The

48:12

guy who's playing Superman. What's

48:15

his name? Kava, something,

48:17

something. Henry Cavill? Cavill,

48:20

Henry Cavill. He did this thing.

48:22

My son told me this

48:24

shows that everybody's just like you.

48:27

He went to Times Square. Do you

48:29

know this? Yeah. He went

48:31

to Times Square under

48:33

the billboard of Superman with

48:36

him on the billboard

48:38

as Superman. And he

48:40

stood directly under the

48:42

billboard with just glasses

48:45

on and stood there

48:47

smiling and was not

48:49

recognized the whole time he

48:51

stood there. And

48:53

he said, so those who think

48:55

it doesn't work, bullshit. That's

49:00

brilliant. Did

49:03

you have another question, Ryan? Has we

49:05

got off on a tangent here? Yeah, I

49:07

had one small question. So I bought

49:09

random. Oh yeah. I

49:11

got my dice and I

49:13

could not for the life of

49:15

me fit my balls in them.

49:17

Okay, I've solved your problem, Ryan.

49:19

Okay. I've solved your problem. The

49:21

next book is coming out called Felony

49:24

Juggler and for the

49:26

people who buy in advance, which would

49:28

be offered first to the Patreon people, this

49:31

time we're giving out three juggling

49:33

balls at St. Felony Juggler.

49:35

And I said to the publisher,

49:38

I asked people to put

49:40

their balls in the dice bag

49:42

and we got one person

49:44

sending us a picture of them

49:46

trying, but no one could really

49:48

do it. This bag

49:50

is bigger and fit their balls

49:52

in. And he said, I think

49:55

so. It's big enough that maybe.

49:57

And I said, well, should I

49:59

just put my... Balls in every

50:01

bag before we send it out and

50:04

tell people that and the publisher

50:06

said well, you know People sure like

50:08

the personal touch So maybe if

50:10

I know which one is going

50:12

to be yours Ryan I'll put

50:14

my balls in your in your

50:16

felony ballsack I met you on

50:18

the tour for random two So

50:20

if you do a book tour,

50:22

maybe you maybe I could be

50:24

a picture Good, good. I'd

50:26

like that very much get it. So I'd like

50:28

it And you just want to I think

50:30

if you pull the string really nice, it'll make

50:32

it a nice neat little package Thank

50:36

you Thank you,

50:38

Ryan. I love hearing about Big Daddy

50:40

Roth. I just love that. Yeah, that

50:42

was great. Yeah, I

50:44

You can when you look at his

50:46

stuff Matt You just do a search

50:48

for Big Daddy Roth I think your

50:50

stuff will pop up and you'll recognize

50:52

you right away. It's a deep part

50:54

of the culture Well, it's like I remember

50:56

I remember getting like a rat -think art

50:58

book from the library one time and

51:00

just liking the artwork But I didn't understand

51:02

what it's that's all big daddy rock

51:05

big daddy rock But

51:07

yeah, very popular should we wrap

51:09

here and go to episode two sure

51:12

you do that First I got to

51:14

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And Ryan

51:35

just added in here. I want

51:37

to say this he He was

51:40

worried that he had freakishly large

51:42

balls. Let me just tell

51:44

you Ryan Having freakishly large balls.

51:46

There's nothing bad about that.

51:48

That's nothing but good, you know

51:50

You'd ever see you ever see people

51:52

say it's an awful thing. It's balls

51:55

just too big. No It's

51:58

kind of like in that category you

52:00

left over caviar and

52:02

left over cocaine. That

52:06

was Penn Sunday School.

52:10

Cha -cha -cha. You

52:14

become naked. Yeah,

52:24

big daddy rock. I haven't thought about that in

52:26

a long time. I'm so glad I did.

52:28

I have a lot of artist friends. They should

52:30

think more about big daddy rock. That's my

52:32

suggestion. Yeah.

52:35

Yeah, someone wrote in that my publisher

52:37

had no problem when we talked about people's

52:39

balls fitting in the bag you were

52:41

sending out. That's just, that's just what

52:43

it's like to work with them. That's all.

52:50

Hey, we love you and hey Matt

52:52

Donahue, ready to thank? Yep. I

52:55

want to thank the following people

52:57

who support us over on Patreon.com/Penn for

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quick one month or one time

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53:08

people all belong in the postcard

53:10

category and this is Tony trying to

53:12

think of a good name for

53:14

blueberry cocoa and cayenne pepper ice cream

53:16

Johnson. Matthew

53:19

Siminoe, elected president Star McScoopsalot,

53:21

Josh Zero, Ben, Harry, the

53:23

girl logician, Kevin Burke,

53:25

David McLaughlin, Old Bear, Greg,

53:27

Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beat, Charlie

53:29

Sheet says trans rights, no shit

53:31

Sherlock, cacti buddies, Stephen

53:33

Breskertl says pops, they're so

53:36

much like us. Coach Rat

53:38

Bastard, Gospacho Suave, David want

53:40

to figure your cunt Brenner,

53:42

Sagebrush, Luke Mellon, Jason Andrew

53:44

Davidson, Peter B. Clark, Matt

53:46

Williams, Brad Sherlock, Steve Feldman,

53:49

Jonathan P, newrulefx.com, Krista Hatchaby,

53:51

Luke McKinney, Danny, insert meta

53:53

joke here, ruse. I wasn't

53:55

ready. I wasn't ready,

53:57

ready. Now I'm lost. Pen,

53:59

pen. Ah, shit, my dog pissed

54:01

on Matt's mat. Adam Stickney, Sax

54:03

Guy Jimmy D, Nathan Julian, Jeremy

54:05

and Shanghai, Chris Harris, Bill Newton.

54:07

Daniel knows two big jokes here,

54:09

but I started playing bass with

54:11

my band Traction. William Wengerene,

54:13

Batman, David Kaye.

54:16

I don't think I'm giving anything

54:18

away here. Brandon Knapp, Nick Dingman,

54:20

Colin Durham, Susie Felber, Lancey

54:22

Minshew, Michelle Yizer, Brogan Hastings, Losita

54:25

Scott, Damien Martin, and Garth

54:27

Reynolds. Thank you very much. Thank

54:29

you so much, y 'all.