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On the morning of October 30th, 2024,
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Mark Longo was doing what he
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does most mornings. He was at his
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animal sanctuary on a farm in
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upstate New York, feeding these several hundred
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horses and goats and pygmy donkeys
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he's rescued, many of which he and
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his wife have saved from the
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slaughterhouse. So where were you when the
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raid began? I was at the
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end of the driveway in the beginning.
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That is when Mark saw something
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strange and menacing approaching the property, a
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convoy of SUVs with New York
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state government decals on the door. They're
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from an agency called the DEC.
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What does DEC stand for? Department of
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Environmental Conservation. One of these Department
1:08
of Environmental Conservation officers gets out of
1:10
the car and tells Mark they'd
1:12
come to his farm in order to
1:14
take somebody into custody. And then
1:16
he produced a search warrant. But the
1:18
warrant wasn't for Mark or his
1:20
wife or any of the people on
1:22
the farm. The warrant was for
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a squirrel named Peanut. And I remember
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I got a call off to
1:29
my wife to say they're here, hide
1:31
the animals. And I tried to
1:33
buy myself some time to maybe figure
1:35
out what's going on here. What
1:37
was going on here was that Mark's
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pet squirrel, Peanut, had become one
1:41
of the most famous squirrels in the
1:43
world. Thanks to social media, Peanut
1:45
had reached the status of animal influencer.
1:47
He had over a million followers
1:49
on Instagram and TikTok. But as the
1:51
DEC officers reminded Mark, it is
1:53
illegal in the state of New York
1:55
to keep wildlife as a pet
1:57
without a special permit, a permit that
2:00
Mark did not have. The DEC said they'd received
2:02
several complaints, and based on
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dozens of extremely popular and
2:06
frankly quite adorable videos on
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Peanut's social media page, the
2:10
officers had determined that both
2:12
Peanut and a relatively newly
2:14
acquired raccoon named Fred were
2:17
somewhere on the premises. Over the
2:19
next several hours, DEC officers made Mark
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and his wife stand by as
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they scoured the property in search
2:25
of Mark's celebrity squirrel. Until finally...
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I was midway on the staircase, I
2:30
had three cops to my right, I
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had three to my left, and one
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of them yelled, I found peanut, I
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found the squirrel. And I said, listen
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guys, like, I'll take peanut, I apologize,
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I'll put him in the car and
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I'll drive him to Connecticut, you'll never
2:44
see him again. And the guy, I'll
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put him in the car and I'll
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drive him to Connecticut, you'll never
2:51
see him again. And the guy, to
2:53
my right. The DC officers did not
2:55
take a Fred, going into custody. And
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after a few days of waiting and
3:00
wondering where they'd been taken, a local
3:02
news reporter calls Mark with some unsettling
3:04
news. Day three comes around and I get
3:06
a phone call from our local news station
3:08
from a gentleman who's in tears and he's
3:10
like, Mark, I don't know how to
3:13
tell you but they're gone. We
3:15
reached out to the New York
3:17
Department of Environmental Conservation, but they
3:19
didn't get back to us. According
3:21
to a statement from the department,
3:23
Peanut had bitten someone involved with
3:25
the investigation. Both of them had
3:28
been euthanized. And I remember just
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like feeling nothing, not even anger,
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like nothing, just sitting there as
3:34
a shell of a human being,
3:36
not really believing it because
3:38
what, this is a movie story, right?
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This is just straight out of a,
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you know, a shit film. And I
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found out I remember hanging up the
3:46
phone and there was a couple of
3:49
volunteers there and I, they killed them
3:51
and they started to cry and I
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walked away. Mark takes to social media
3:56
to tell the world what had happened
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and pretty soon the story goes absolutely
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viral. My phone
4:02
started buzzing TMZ is
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calling you know every major news
4:06
outlets wants this story and that's
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when it just went nuts and
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then you you're hearing Elon Musk talk
4:13
about it and you're hearing you
4:15
know JD Vance and now Trump Jr.
4:17
and it turned into like a
4:19
political stunt. Our government will let in
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six hundred thousand criminals across our
4:23
border but if someone has a pet
4:25
squirrel without a permit they go
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in there and kill the squirrel. That's
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the Democrat Party. But it also
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turned into one of the biggest tragedies
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in 2024. You know my squirrel
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sits next to Harambe now and I
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always tell people like they shouldn't
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have been a story. Did you
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ever imagine that peanut might find an
4:43
afterlife on the blockchain? I didn't even
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know what the blockchain was and a
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clue. But you would find out. I
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would I would soon find out. Hello
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and welcome to Planet Money I'm
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Alexi Horowitz -Gazi. You can think of
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the story of peanut the squirrel
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as a kind of modern parable.
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A tale about how a chance
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encounter can change your life bring
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you fame and fortune but also
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how that attention can spin wildly
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out of your control. Today on
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the show how an anonymous baby
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rodent rose to become a world
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-famous animal influencer then a political
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martyr and finally a piece of
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cryptocurrency worth billions of dollars joining
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the ranks of Dogecoin, Haktua and
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president Donald Trump. And what all
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of this says about the brave
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new kind of terrifying attention economy
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there to visit Mark Longo and see
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the tiny empire that his celebrity squirrels
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fame helped build, the house that Peanut
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built. And in order to learn how
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Peanuts story began, Mark brought us to
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a special room that he's turned into
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a kind of memorial for his fallen
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friend. Wow.
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the inner
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sanctum. This
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is Peanuts room. The room
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is filled with peanut memorabilia
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sent in by fans around
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the world. The walls and
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ceilings are covered in newspaper
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clippings and drawings. And under
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glass, the piesta resistals, a
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tiny squirrel sized like one
7:18
ounce cowboy hat. The most
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iconic piece is if you're
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and it is your cowboy
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hat. Now, the story of
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how this one squirrel rose from
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an anonymous street rodent to a world
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famous animal influencer begins seven years
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ago on a sunny spring day in
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midtown Manhattan. Mark Longo
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was 27 back then, working as
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a building inspector on construction sites
7:41
around New York when he comes
7:43
across the body of a squirrel that had
7:45
just been flattened by a car. And
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when he looks a little closer, he sees
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there's a tiny infant squirrel next to
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her. And now I'm seeing this baby squirrel
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walk in the middle the street and
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he's looking at me. He's only got one
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eye open. and then he just
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made one hop and was down on my
8:02
pound leg and just started to crawl up
8:04
my leg. So as he got closer, I
8:06
kind of like brought him up into my
8:08
hands and I put him in my hoodie.
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Mark is a lifelong animal lover, doesn't want
8:12
the squirrel to die, so he brings it
8:14
home and starts trying to figure out how
8:16
to nurse it back to health. The little
8:18
guy seems to love peanuts at first, so
8:21
that is what Mark names him. But pretty
8:23
soon, peanut reveals himself to be a pretty
8:25
picky eater. The only way I can get
8:27
him to eat was through, you know, mashing
8:29
up an avocado in the powder and
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he would just stuff his face
8:33
into it. Classic millennial. Yeah, literally
8:35
like avocado toast. It was 100 %
8:37
his menu the whole time. And
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as peanut begins to grow, Mark starts to fold
8:41
him more and more into his daily life. You
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know, I played video games, he's in my pocket.
8:45
You know, I went to go to CVS, he's
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in my hoodie. You know, I remember bringing him
8:49
to PetSmart and put him in one of the
8:51
hamster balls and he's running down the hall and
8:53
the one was like, oh, what do you have
8:55
in there? A gerbil? And I was like, yeah,
8:57
sure, it's a gerbil. You know, there's peanut running
8:59
around this little baby squirrel. You know, and then
9:01
we just started to, you know, take photos and
9:03
videos of him. Mark decides
9:05
to start an Instagram account for peanut.
9:07
He starts posting videos of peanut
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wearing little costumes like that cowboy hat
9:12
or a miniature ranger's jersey. And
9:14
a large of the time it was absolute gold.
9:16
Peanut befriends Mark's cat, which people
9:19
seem to love, and slowly
9:21
but surely, peanut social media following
9:23
starts to grow. When did
9:25
you first get the sense you might have
9:27
a viral social media star on your hands?
9:29
It kind of just happened. Mark
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says there was one video in particular
9:33
that seemed to light up the internet,
9:35
one where peanut jumps from the top
9:37
of the fridge and into Mark's hand
9:40
in slow motion. And this is
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where the story of peanut the squirrel
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meets the modern attention economy and
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the central question it raises. When you
9:48
have the world's attention, how do
9:50
you actually turn that into money? For
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a long time, attention, this scarce
9:55
resource was monopolized by
9:57
newspapers and TV or radio
9:59
companies who used the
10:01
power of celebrity or news or scandal to draw
10:03
in as many eyeballs as possible in order to
10:06
sell ads. But over the last couple
10:08
decades, social media platforms have tweaked
10:10
that model by essentially allowing anyone
10:12
to be a miniature broadcaster. Now
10:15
someone or some creature can go
10:17
from total anonymity to worldwide fame
10:20
in just a couple hours. Which
10:22
is exactly what happened when Peanut's
10:24
first viral video popped off. After
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that, a popular animal video website
10:29
called The Dodo posted a video
10:32
featuring Mark and Peanut. Then the
10:34
messages started rolling in. Mark started
10:36
getting calls from radio stations and TV
10:38
shows from around the world. We went
10:40
on British TV and they deemed him
10:43
the world's most famous squirrel, and that's
10:45
when his TikTok blew up, and then
10:47
that's where, you know, a hundred thousand
10:49
followers became a few million, and we
10:51
just kind of rolled with the wave.
10:53
Mark says Peanut warmed to this newfound
10:55
limelight right away. He was just
10:57
a preter naturally charismatic mini fauna, especially
11:00
when the cameras were rolling. I fist
11:02
pumped that scroll so many damn times
11:04
because he just nailed these interviews like
11:07
it was something that he was
11:09
meant to do. Peanut knew how to
11:11
turn on the charm. Did he ever?
11:13
You know, especially with ladies, like he
11:16
was a ladies man. Mark says his
11:18
male friends would regularly post photos
11:20
with peanut on their online dating profiles
11:22
to great success. And for Mark
11:25
himself... Peanut turned out to be
11:27
the ultimate wingman. I met my wife
11:29
because of peanut. No one! My wife
11:31
DMed me on Peanut's page. And that's
11:33
how we met. She ended up calling
11:35
me wearing a flying scroll costume. Wow.
11:38
And I was like, I think I'm in
11:40
love with you. Now, when it came to
11:42
monetizing all this newfound attention, Mark
11:44
says he never set out to
11:46
make money off his tiny furry
11:49
best friend. But as Peanut's profile
11:51
grew in the attention economy of
11:53
social media, all sorts of strange
11:55
new opportunities started to present themselves.
11:58
Mostly not related. investing
12:00
app called Acorns reached out expressing
12:02
some interest. Mark and Peanut did
12:05
some videos for a peanut butter
12:07
company. Also a website called nuts.com.
12:09
Sorry, what is nuts.com? So nuts.com
12:11
is just a website where you
12:14
can buy a variety of different
12:16
nuts. You know, so definitely it
12:18
worked out perfectly. Now Mark says
12:20
there's just a natural limit to
12:22
the kind of brand opportunities that
12:24
will flow to a squirrel. Peanut
12:27
wasn't exactly Kim Kardashian. But,
12:29
but, but. Mark and Peanut had gotten
12:31
their first taste of the strange ways
12:33
you can turn attention into money on
12:35
the internet. Their first steps down the
12:38
squirrel hole. And then one day, Mark
12:40
says, someone from the website Cameo
12:42
reached out to get Peanut on
12:44
the platform. And this is the
12:47
second big moment where Peanut's story
12:49
intersects with the modern attention economy
12:51
and how it's changed over the
12:54
past decade. For listeners who missed
12:56
Cameo, this is a site that
12:58
blew up during COVID lockdowns that
13:00
allowed internet celebrities to monetize their
13:03
very particular level of fame by
13:05
offering these like customized little shout-out
13:07
videos to paying customers. Like you
13:10
could get your favorite side
13:12
character from Seinfeld to wish your
13:14
aunt Vovey, a happy birthday! It's the
13:16
soup Nazi from Seinfeld, remember me?
13:18
No soup for you! Hey, what's up,
13:20
Peeps? It's Sean Paul. I'm Lindsay Lohan.
13:22
Hi, everybody. Stormy Daniels here. Hey,
13:25
Ida. It's Sean Spicer. Hey, Elissa,
13:27
John Lovett's here. I want to
13:29
congratulate you on graduating college. Cameo
13:31
was an innovation on the attention
13:33
economy model because before, while creators
13:35
had been able to make money
13:38
through brand deals, it was the
13:40
platforms like Instagram and YouTube that
13:42
were making the lion's share of
13:44
the profits from all this attention
13:46
by using user data to sell
13:48
targeted ads. Cameo offered a way
13:50
for niche celebrities to sell themselves
13:52
directly to individual consumers. Cameo would take
13:54
a cut, 25 to 30 percent, and
13:56
in exchange, they would help their clients
13:59
monetize their fame. One big part of
14:01
that puzzle was helping these microcelebrities to
14:03
figure out the right price to
14:05
charge. Early on, Cameo suggested
14:07
people set their prices by calculating how
14:09
much they are usually paid per
14:11
minute based on their salary. Like if
14:13
you are an NBA star making
14:15
$25 million a year, you should be
14:17
making about $200 a minute, which
14:19
could help you set your rate for
14:22
a 30 -second birthday video. Peanut,
14:24
of course, did not have an annual salary
14:26
that Mark could use to set a
14:28
rate. They kind of arbitrarily picked like 30
14:30
bucks a video, but Mark says it
14:32
wasn't about the money. They were just happy
14:34
to be there. The coolest part about
14:36
it was they were classifying peanut as
14:38
the same as like a lot of
14:41
the celebrities that you see in movies.
14:43
Mark would dress peanut up in costume
14:45
and have him hold a little post -it
14:47
note with whatever message had been ordered.
14:49
They did birthdays, valentines, even a proposal.
14:52
With Cameo, they had taken their second
14:54
step down the squirrel hole of
14:56
the attention economy. But Mark says
14:58
peanut only ended up selling a few cameos
15:00
a month. Again, it's just hard for
15:02
a rodent to compete with the real housewives
15:04
of Salt Lake City. The bigger
15:06
acorn jackpot was still to
15:08
come. And it was actually Mark
15:10
who had become the star of this next
15:12
chapter. He says it wasn't too long before
15:15
he started to notice that a lot of
15:17
the attention they were getting was directed toward
15:19
him. Mark is a buff
15:21
guy, works out a lot. And he
15:23
explains he'd often wear these tight fitting gym
15:25
pants and peanuts videos. The
15:28
Internet did what the Internet does
15:30
best and sexualized every ounce of
15:32
that page. You know, and it's
15:34
like, oh, you hike up your
15:36
pants. I like where my pants
15:38
are. Again, it's just you're turning
15:40
this story into something it's not. They're accusing
15:42
you of like thirst trapping? Oh, 100%. And I'm
15:44
like, guys, you can go on any social media
15:46
platform and literally see people naked. If you're going
15:48
to put me in the realm of thirst traps
15:50
with a squirrel, I'm fully clothed, not showing off
15:52
anything. And I'm just jumping around with a squirrel.
15:54
Get your head out of the gutter. Enjoy the
15:56
squirrel. Mark
16:00
told us he soon got a message
16:02
from a kind of surprising source, a
16:04
manager representing performers on only fans. And
16:07
this was Mark and Peanut's third step
16:09
down the squirrel hole of the rapidly
16:11
changing attention economy. Only fans for the
16:13
uninitiated is a video streaming platform where
16:16
content creators make customized content for paying
16:18
subscribers. Mostly it's homemade adult content. It's
16:20
kind of like the Etsy of porn.
16:23
Only fans customers can subscribe to a
16:25
performer's channel for a flat fee and
16:27
then pay for premium perks like private
16:29
video conversations with their favorite performer or
16:32
access to increasingly intimate photos and videos.
16:34
Like Cameo, the idea behind the Only
16:36
Fans model was to allow performers to
16:38
sell their content directly to fans. Instead
16:41
of selling targeted ads, Only Fans takes
16:43
a 20% commission of what their customers
16:45
spend and sends the rest to the
16:48
performers. For some creators, it's made digital
16:50
sex work highly lucrative. And that's why
16:52
the Only Fans Talent Manager first reached
16:54
out to Mark. They were like, listen,
16:57
like, you might not understand your value
16:59
on social media, but we do. And...
17:01
You come off as a very innocent
17:03
man with an animal. Could you imagine
17:06
if we were to kind of shift
17:08
from A to Z and put you
17:10
on only fans what you can make?
17:12
Successful only fans performers can make six
17:15
or even seven figure salaries more than
17:17
Mark was making as a building site
17:19
inspector. The manager told Mark if he
17:22
could convert enough peanut fans from Instagram
17:24
into paying customers on only fans, they
17:26
could make a killing. So Mark went
17:28
to his wife to talk about the
17:31
idea of them starting their own page,
17:33
making adult content together, and she was
17:35
open to it. Then he spoke with
17:37
his parents and with his bosses at
17:40
work to see if they would raise
17:42
any major objections, and none of them
17:44
did. So I kind of just sat
17:47
down and was like, you know what,
17:49
let's give this a shot. If this
17:51
turns out to be something, then here's
17:53
the start of a new chapter of
17:56
our life. If it gets shot down
17:58
or it doesn't work, I'm naked on
18:00
the internet. Everybody's got the same parts,
18:02
like, so what? And if you are
18:05
wondering whether Peanut himself ever appeared on
18:07
Mark's only fan's page, Mark says the
18:09
answer is an emphatic no. Peanut was
18:11
never a part of any adult content.
18:14
Apparently, when you are building a social
18:16
media empire consisting of both wholesome animal
18:18
content and bespoke homemade pornography, Just like
18:21
the Ghostbusters warned, it is essential that
18:23
you never cross the streams. When did
18:25
you get a sense that Only Fans
18:27
might actually be a much more lucrative
18:30
way of harnessing the attention of the
18:32
internet? Within minutes. Literally, we launched it
18:34
at like 10 o'clock in the morning
18:36
and within the first 20 minutes, I
18:39
had a couple thousand subscribers. Because I
18:41
already had kind of that group of
18:43
people that were just waiting for me
18:46
to open that door. And when I
18:48
did, it just, everybody just flowed in.
18:50
We call that pent up demand. Yes,
18:52
and it very much was. And when
18:55
it came to Mark's Only Fan's business
18:57
strategy, my thing was like I kept
18:59
my subscription price low. You could come
19:01
and see kind of highlights, but also
19:04
you could incentivize people to buy the
19:06
more, you know, x-rated stuff kind of
19:08
pick from my so-called menu of what
19:10
you liked. Like. for instance, like put
19:13
a cowboy hat or put my construction
19:15
hat on, you know, do a strip
19:17
teas or whatever you want, you know,
19:20
I'm willing to sell my underwear. So
19:22
literally anything that I was putting out
19:24
turned to gold. How much did the
19:26
underwear go for? I think it was
19:29
like between $50 and $200, but it
19:31
ranged. Like if you wanted me to
19:33
wear them three times at the gym,
19:35
you know, it was a little bit
19:38
more. Pretty soon, Mark says, he and
19:40
his wife are bringing in over $10,000
19:42
a month through their only fans page,
19:45
thanks to this enthusiastic group of Peanut's
19:47
followers. It was enough money that they
19:49
started to think about how they might
19:51
build something bigger and longer lasting out
19:54
of these eclectic streams of attention. They
19:56
knew that Peanut wouldn't be around forever.
19:58
Eastern gray squirrels can live... up to
20:00
20 years in captivity, though their average
20:03
lifespan is usually only around six. And
20:05
they also knew they couldn't make adult
20:07
content on only fans forever. And
20:09
that is when they went in on
20:11
the idea of creating an animal sanctuary.
20:13
Peanut had been a rescue animal. Mark
20:16
was like, what better way could there
20:18
be to turn Peanut's brand into a
20:20
lasting legacy and source of income? They
20:22
thought that if they could run it
20:24
as a non-profit, they'd be able to
20:26
take donations and use Peanut's massive social
20:28
media following to build a community who
20:30
could help sustain it years into the
20:32
future. Peanut has millions of hours. And
20:35
we just went, okay, if we can
20:37
get a dollar, we can get $5, we can
20:39
get $20 from a fraction of those people.
20:41
We already have the following. We have the
20:43
count of the foundation of what we need
20:45
here. By the spring of 2023, Mark
20:47
and his wife finally put together enough
20:49
money to realize their dream. They bought
20:52
a large plot of land in rural
20:54
upstate New York and opened up their
20:56
animal sanctuary, which they named Peanuts Freedom
20:58
Farm. Around the same time, Mark
21:00
quit his job as a building
21:03
site inspector to dedicate himself full-time
21:05
to the farm. He and his
21:07
wife started buying old and injured
21:09
horses who'd been neglected or were
21:12
destined for the slaughterhouse. They got
21:14
goats, donkeys, alpacas, eventually over 300
21:16
animals in total, sometimes costing over
21:18
$30,000 a month. And in order
21:21
to feed this growing menagerie, Mark's
21:23
life became this bizarre encapsulation of
21:25
the modern tension economy. On a typical
21:27
day last year, before everything changed, Mark
21:29
would wake up at 5 a.m. to
21:32
feed the animals. Then he might take
21:34
a shower while making a sexually explicit
21:36
video for a paying stranger on only
21:38
fans. Then he might run peanut through
21:41
some of their classic bits to make
21:43
content for the Instagram account. Followed by
21:45
a video for the animal sanctuary's non-profit
21:47
donors to show them that the rescue
21:49
donkeys were actually getting the care they
21:52
needed. It was this kind of miraculous,
21:54
precarious, precarious, social media Roob Goldberg machine.
21:56
until that is that fateful day
21:58
last fall when convoy of SUVs
22:01
from the New York State Department of
22:03
Environmental Conservation pulled into Mark's driveway. Internet
22:05
sensation Peanut the squirrel has been killed.
22:07
DC officers seized that animal. It was
22:09
found injured on the streets of Manhattan
22:11
seven years ago. He got to wonder
22:13
what is going on in America. Let's
22:16
hear from the aftermath of Peanut's death,
22:18
Mark was devastated and confused. On the
22:20
one hand, he just lost his best
22:22
friend and business partner, and on the
22:24
other, he'd never been so squarely at
22:26
the center of the internet's attention in
22:28
his life. All of a sudden, he
22:31
had politicians and celebrities and strangers from
22:33
all around the world reaching out to
22:35
offer their outrage and condolences. You know,
22:37
I had the owner of the Yankees
22:39
reach out. I have Quentin Tarantino on
22:41
my dams. I have my favorite bands
22:43
reaching out and what can we do
22:46
to help? At the same time. Mark
22:48
was acutely aware that the charismatic squirrel
22:50
whose fame had been helping him make
22:52
money and feed hundreds of mouths was
22:54
now gone. The stream of new squirrel
22:56
content that had drawn in so many
22:58
eyeballs and opportunities over the years had
23:01
been cut off, and the magnitude of
23:03
his expenses was starting to dawn on
23:05
him. How the hell are we going
23:07
to continue this nonprofit without our star
23:09
and our golden squirrel? Those are the
23:11
things that are going through. I'm like,
23:13
wow, you know, Instagram's going to go
23:16
down, TikTok, I'm not going to be
23:18
able to build this stuff. You know,
23:20
where am I going to get the
23:22
funding for these animals? I already have
23:24
the animals. What are going to happen
23:26
to the animals if I can't feed
23:29
them? This place is going to ultimately
23:31
shut down. Mark was in a kind
23:33
of anxiety spiral, thinking about where all
23:35
of where all of this might lead.
23:37
that I'm going to be just reamed
23:39
in the news and in PR, like
23:41
Mark, you know, failed at his non-profit,
23:44
and you know, all of this is
23:46
now transpiring, and I'm like, I got
23:48
to figure this out. Mark and his
23:50
wife started by creating an emergency go-fund
23:52
me page, while Peanut's death was still
23:54
at the top of the news cycle.
23:56
They also began a legal campaign to
23:59
try to press the government for answers
24:01
about what had happened to Peanut. time
24:03
that Mark was made aware of the
24:05
latest and most lucrative new evolution of
24:07
the modern attention economy, something that would
24:09
present the possibility of previously unimaginable wealth,
24:11
but also the peril of losing control
24:14
of his story all together. How did
24:16
you first find out that Peanut had
24:18
been turned into some form of cryptocurrency?
24:20
I'm sitting in the gym working out.
24:22
I get a phone call from my
24:24
lawyer. And she's... Just instantly, Mark, what is
24:26
this peanut coin on crypto? It's at
24:28
$2 billion. Are you involved in this? And
24:31
I was like, I have no idea what
24:33
you're talking about. It took a while
24:35
for Mark to piece this together, but
24:37
it appeared that just hours after the
24:39
news of Peanut's death started going viral.
24:41
Some anonymous person or group online had
24:44
turned Peanut into a meme coin. A kind
24:46
of joke cryptocurrency. The
24:48
meme coin featured an iconic image
24:50
of Mark holding Peanut with a cowboy
24:52
hat, and it had the taker sign
24:55
P-N-U-T. It turned out that there was
24:57
an enormous new meme coin
24:59
market fueled almost literally on
25:01
attention, a kind of new
25:03
casino where anonymous hordes gamble
25:05
on viral memes in hopes
25:07
of making outrageous sums of
25:09
money. Mark knew barely anything about
25:11
crypto at this point. But he understood
25:13
there were now thousands of total strangers
25:15
cumulatively making millions of dollars off of
25:17
Peanut's good name on the internet, and
25:20
none of those profits were flowing to
25:22
Mark or the animal sanctuary. And I'm
25:24
like, you're kidding me? Like it's, you
25:26
know, we're not talking about like you
25:28
made a thousand bucks. Like you made
25:30
a hundred million dollars off of this
25:33
story, and you didn't include me and
25:35
my family? After the break, Mark Longo
25:37
takes his final step into the deepest,
25:39
darkest, darkest recesses of the squirrel
25:41
hole. He dives headfirst into
25:43
the mien coin casino to
25:46
try to find financial justice
25:48
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so for the first seven years
27:24
of his life with Peanut the
27:26
Squirrel, Mark Longo had managed to
27:28
keep control over the growing streams
27:30
of attention they generated together, like
27:32
on Instagram or TikTok or OnlyFans.
27:34
But in the wake of Peanut's
27:36
death in the world of meme
27:38
coins, Mark discovered yet little or
27:41
no control. Peanut's viral popularity had
27:43
been leveraged by a group of
27:45
anonymous crypto insiders into ludicrous amounts
27:47
of money, tens of millions of
27:49
dollars. Mark couldn't figure out exactly
27:51
who was behind the peanut coin,
27:53
and neither could we. The people
27:55
who launched these meme coins are
27:57
generally very careful not to reveal
28:00
their identities, but from what Mark
28:02
- could see, these people were presenting the coin as if he
28:04
had helped make it. And he felt like the story was being
28:06
taken away from him. Because you go on their
28:08
website, the first photo on there is me
28:10
with peanut. People were representing this coin as
28:12
if it was my. So I can't even
28:14
tell you the amount of thousands of people
28:16
reached out, like, bought your peanut coin, made
28:18
money off your peanut coin, hope you're doing
28:20
well. I hope all this works out for
28:23
the farm. And I'm like, haven't a clue what
28:25
you're talking about. Over the next month,
28:27
Mark would get a lot more than a
28:29
clue. He started to weigh deeper and deeper
28:31
into the world of meme coins in
28:33
hopes of getting a cut of these
28:35
massive profits they were making. And he
28:38
discovered that not only had people made
28:40
meme coins out of peanut, but several
28:42
of his other farm animals. At first
28:44
he says, some of the people who
28:46
seemed to be behind these coins did
28:48
offer to make donations to the animal
28:51
sanctuary. All they asked was that Mark
28:53
basically promote their coins on social media.
28:55
Once he did, they sent him donations,
28:57
some in the form of meme coins.
28:59
But Mark says, soon after, some of
29:01
those traders figured out a way to
29:03
take back their donations. And partly in
29:05
retaliation for that, and partly because he
29:07
needed real money to feed his animals,
29:09
Mark sold off a big chunk of
29:11
the coins he'd been given. Doing that
29:13
caused the price of that coin to
29:15
collapse at the expense of everyone's still
29:17
holding it. And Mark's reputation in
29:19
the crypto world took a dramatic
29:21
turn south. People started calling him
29:23
a scammer. And that's when it
29:26
started to flip, like, oh, we
29:28
donated money to Mark and Coins. He
29:30
sold the coins. He ruined the chart.
29:32
Still, Mark was not deterred. Fast sums
29:35
of money seemed tantalizingly close, maybe within
29:37
reach. If he won big on a
29:39
meme coin, he could stop doing only
29:41
fans. You would never have to worry
29:44
about the money to feed his 300
29:46
plus rescue animals. So he says, when
29:48
some acquaintances offered to help him create
29:51
a competing peanut meme coin that they
29:53
could market as the one true peanut-based
29:55
cryptocurrency, he took them up on their offer.
29:57
He wanted to fight meme coin with meme coin.
29:59
To get a sense of what this
30:02
all looked like to the people inside
30:04
the Memcoin casino, we talked to a
30:06
guy named Wilk Itzen. In the real
30:08
world, I am a real estate agent,
30:10
but in the Memcoin world, I identify
30:13
as roomy. You're numb to crypto? Yeah,
30:15
my numb to crypto. Rumi says that
30:17
finding the most profitable meme coins is
30:19
all about keeping track of what's popping
30:22
off in the zeitgeist. He keeps news
30:24
notifications on for all sorts of outlets,
30:26
but he says that sensational stories from
30:28
the right wing of the political
30:31
spectrum often get the most traction.
30:33
Another big thing he watches for are
30:35
animal coins. From the original meme coin,
30:37
doge coin, to a recent one based
30:40
off of moodang the pygmy hippo, animal
30:42
coins have proven to be a highly
30:44
lucrative asset class. So when Rumi heard
30:47
that a famous squirrel had become a
30:49
right-wing political martyr and that he'd been
30:51
turned into a meme coin, it got
30:54
his attention. And at what point
30:56
did you decide to get in on the
30:58
peanut coin? I got in pretty
31:00
much when it was created and
31:02
I threw some dust at it. By
31:05
dust, Rumi is speaking crypto for
31:07
money. He says he bought $100 worth
31:09
of peanut when it had a
31:11
market cap of a few hundred thousand
31:13
dollars. And it was going so fast,
31:15
it took me like three attempts to
31:18
buy into it. But Rumi says he
31:20
got nervous pretty quickly. He decided to
31:22
hop off the peanut rocket after making
31:25
only a few thousand dollars. And then
31:27
he just kind of moved on, watched
31:29
the peanut coin situation from afar. When
31:31
Elon Musk started tweeting about peanut, the
31:34
price of the coin skyrocketed, and eventually
31:36
reached a market cap of over two
31:38
billion dollars. Rimi says the next two
31:40
heard about Peanut was when Mark Longo
31:43
took to social media to start talking
31:45
up his competing meme coin, the one
31:47
he called Justice. And listening to Mark's
31:49
pitch, Rimi says, it was clear that
31:52
Mark was getting something fundamentally wrong about
31:54
how the meme coin world works. Mark
31:56
seemed to be making a sort of
31:59
earnest appeal about how switching peanut meme
32:01
coins would somehow bring justice for
32:03
his untimely death. But, Rumi says,
32:05
Mark was speaking largely to people
32:07
who were just looking to profit.
32:09
Most of these people are just
32:11
getting involved in these projects to
32:13
make money for the dream of
32:15
making generational wealth and walking away
32:17
from your nine to five and
32:19
never looking back, right? It's the
32:21
world's biggest Ponzi scheme. Let's not
32:23
get it twisted. Because whoever buys
32:25
first makes money off or whoever
32:27
buys next, right? And it goes
32:29
up and up and up from
32:31
there. Mrs. He didn't really buy
32:33
Mark's altruistic pitch for his new
32:35
coin. And the other thing Mark
32:37
was getting wrong was his timing.
32:39
Mark was hawking his justice coin
32:41
weeks after Peanut's death. The viral
32:43
curve around the story had already
32:45
started to flatten. The energy of
32:47
it was already used up. And
32:50
that's the thing. It's all an
32:52
attention economy. People moved on. And
32:54
it's sad, but that works for
32:56
everything that creates an uproar. It
32:58
lasts for a week, two weeks,
33:00
and people are already in peanut.
33:02
They're not going to go to
33:04
justice, right? Peanut was the thing
33:06
that represented justice for peanut. Nevertheless,
33:08
Mark persisted. The justice meme coin
33:10
fell apart after Mark and his
33:12
partners started accusing each other of
33:14
fraudulent behavior. So Mark actually launched
33:16
another peanut coin. But so far,
33:18
that one too has failed to
33:20
gain traction. It's currently stalled at
33:22
a market cap of just a
33:24
few hundred thousand dollars. In the
33:26
meantime, Mark has decided that if
33:28
he can't join the crypto insiders
33:30
that successfully made money off these
33:32
peanut-based meme coins, he's going to
33:34
try to beat them, legally, to
33:36
go after them for using his
33:38
intellectual property to create and promote
33:40
their coins. You go on the
33:42
website, it literally has a photo
33:44
of me. Literally had my sanctuary.
33:46
literally had my photos and they
33:48
used this to base their whole
33:50
project on my story so I
33:52
I was like, you have two
33:54
options, either include me, or I
33:56
sue you guys to get everything
33:59
taken back. And they were just
34:01
like, fuck you, you have no
34:03
power here, we made Peanut's story,
34:05
we did this. And I'm like,
34:07
your crypto game didn't do shit
34:09
to my story, the story was
34:11
already here and you're using it
34:13
to make money. Because the people
34:15
behind the peanut coin are anonymous,
34:17
Mark isn't able to sue them
34:19
directly. So instead, Mark's lawyers have
34:21
filed cease and desist letters against
34:23
the major crypto exchanges where the
34:25
biggest peanut meme coins are listed.
34:27
He alleges they violated his copyright
34:29
by using his photos and that
34:31
they violate a trademark that he's
34:33
recently applied for. The strategy is
34:35
still something of a long shot.
34:37
But there have been some successful
34:39
court cases arguing for ownership of
34:41
memes. And if he were to
34:43
successfully get some of these coins
34:45
delisted, he could have major implications
34:47
for the whole world of meme
34:49
coins. As we wrapped up our
34:51
interview with Mark surrounded by peanut
34:53
memorabilia inside the squirrels old room,
34:55
it's clear that Mark himself is
34:57
still just trying to emotionally process
34:59
everything that's happened over the last
35:01
year. I never thought it'd be
35:03
somebody who has to... fight trauma.
35:06
Like I'm about, I cried before
35:08
you guys came here, I don't
35:10
have enough time in my day
35:12
to focus on grieving. So, you
35:14
know, I have to focus that
35:16
anger into motivation and positivity because
35:18
if I don't, I'm going to
35:20
just mentally break down myself. So
35:22
the house that Peanut built feels
35:24
a bit like a straw house
35:26
at the moment? Absolutely. You know,
35:28
we're hanging on by a thread.
35:30
Mark says that he's learned anything
35:32
from his journey into the depths
35:34
of the attention economy. It's how
35:36
fickle and impermanent the world's attention
35:38
really is. So he's doing what
35:40
he can to keep Peanut's story
35:42
alive. It's a big part of
35:44
why he invited Planet Money into
35:46
Peanut's inner sanctum. It's why he's
35:48
entertaining proposals to turn his story
35:50
into a documentary for places like
35:52
Hulu and Netflix. Maybe the next
35:54
Tiger King will be about him
35:56
and Peanut. In the meantime, Mark
35:58
says that he... He and his
36:00
family are making ends mean. They're
36:02
covering their costs through a mixture
36:04
of donations and only fans' revenue.
36:06
He's still holding out hope that
36:08
the anonymous traders behind the most
36:10
popular peanut-based cryptocurrencies will eventually cut
36:12
him in on the proceeds. And
36:15
he hopes that one day, he
36:17
won't have to keep making only
36:19
fans' content to keep his rescue
36:21
animals alive. If
36:29
you want to know why
36:31
everyone seems to be releasing
36:34
meme coins these days, from
36:36
literal children to C-list celebrities
36:38
to the President of the
36:40
United States, check out our
36:42
recent episode, The Memcoin Casino.
36:44
It's the story of how
36:46
meme coins went from a
36:48
one-off joke to a massive
36:50
speculative frenzy worth tens of
36:52
billions of dollars. This episode
36:54
was produced by Jane Sneed.
36:56
It was edited by Jess
36:58
Jang, fact-checked by Sierra Juarez,
37:00
and engineered by Jimmy Keeley.
37:02
Alex Goldmark is our executive
37:05
producer. Special thanks to Jennifer
37:07
Jenkins, Yecia Yadav, Max Buick,
37:09
and Yulia Guceva. I'm Nick
37:11
Nevis. I'm Alexi Horowitz-Gazzy. This
37:13
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