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1:00

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1:06

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1:11

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1:32

guess the engagement up. This could be

1:34

fun. This will be fun. All

1:36

right, well, hey, I know you

1:38

got some money. Give it to

1:40

me. It's your buddy Andy, America's

1:43

little brother. As always, joined by

1:45

this fellow. I don't know

1:47

when he decided to become

1:49

a dancer. I never would

1:51

have predicted it in our

1:53

lifetime together. but he technically is

1:56

a professional dancer now and he's

1:58

going to show you why Nick

2:02

Nick Pollock has entered the

2:05

program. I was a little

2:07

fearful. Nick Nick Pollock has

2:09

entered the program. I was

2:11

a little fearful. He was

2:13

doing some kind of kettle

2:15

bell routine. I thought maybe

2:17

he was going to accidentally

2:19

hit me in the head

2:21

with it instead of giving

2:23

me his hat. I forgot

2:25

that you were a... You

2:27

couldn't breathe until I finished.

2:29

Yeah, I had to. Oh,

2:31

I had to stop doing

2:33

my Russian twists. Russian twists.

2:35

It's ab season, apparently, at

2:37

Nick's House. No treats, Russian

2:39

twists. What's happening over there?

2:41

Well, exactly that. It's going

2:44

for those Bobby Rock obliques,

2:46

is what he's going for.

2:48

Well, I want to, when

2:50

I make that face into

2:52

the camera, I want it

2:54

to actually be scary. Okay.

2:56

Well, you're on your way.

2:58

Welcome to the show, Nick.

3:00

Glad to have you. Oh,

3:02

thank you. Sitting to your

3:04

immediate left. You want them?

3:06

We got them! I can

3:08

have it. Every day, yeah,

3:10

yeah. I can have it.

3:12

Get out of my way,

3:14

yeah, fuck you. Put your

3:16

hands together. The breakout star

3:18

of the podcast medium, Chris

3:20

Alice, in the house. Chris,

3:23

what up? What up? What

3:25

up? Welcome. We're glad to

3:27

have you in your home.

3:29

Thank you for inviting us

3:31

into your home. And thank

3:33

you to the listeners for

3:35

inviting us into your home.

3:37

And thank you to the

3:39

listeners for inviting us into

3:41

their homes. Ladies and gentlemen.

3:43

That's nice. That's a nice

3:45

thing to say. That was

3:47

nice, wasn't it? That's a

3:49

very, very 1950s television television

3:51

thing to say. I like.

3:53

Whatever it may be, ladies

3:55

and gentlemen, he's back, and

3:57

we're excited. Jericho!

4:01

Oh! His voice is

4:03

music to our ears!

4:06

Jericho! Oh! His voice

4:09

is music to our

4:11

ears! Chris Jericho back

4:14

again on pot of

4:17

thunder. Thanks for coming.

4:19

This is my fifth

4:22

appearance in seven episodes.

4:24

Is that right? Yeah.

4:26

I had a good

4:28

Christmas season, had lots

4:30

of time available to hang

4:32

out with you guys. And let me just

4:35

say I was at a, I was at

4:37

a celebration the other day,

4:39

shall we say. And Cherokee came

4:41

on the, the mixed music. Wow.

4:44

I had no idea what the

4:46

actual chorus of that is. It's

4:48

Cherokee riding on the trail

4:50

of tears. Yes. I thought it

4:52

was Cherokee. Your name is music to

4:55

our earboard. So I was really thrown off

4:57

by the historical reference. The

4:59

last thing I need is Joey Tempest

5:01

to teach you about the fucking

5:03

American Revolution or the hell it

5:06

is. Yeah, the Native American Trail

5:08

of Tears. They really, yeah, it

5:10

really brings the party down, I

5:12

think, once that conversation gets kicked

5:14

off. Exactly. Pretty soon after that

5:16

everybody dispersed and went their own

5:18

separate ways. Well, we're glad to

5:21

have you. Thank you for being

5:23

here. I want to get the

5:25

party back up. I'm going to

5:27

go sit under a tree for

5:29

a few minutes and think. Thank

5:31

you. That's what everybody wants to

5:34

talk about at a party is

5:36

genocide of an entire race of

5:38

people on the planet. Yeah, not

5:41

ideal. You know what is ideal,

5:43

Nick's got some foil over there,

5:45

doesn't he? Don't have anything. You

5:47

don't have any foil. Nothing. Ah!

5:50

No, sorry. It's

6:02

diet time again. Diet time. Well, it's

6:05

the beginning of the year. Yeah. No

6:07

treats. Especially late at night, right? Isn't

6:09

that what they say? Not the ideal

6:12

time to be eating your sweets right

6:14

before you go to bed. So, all

6:16

right. Well, I can honestly say the

6:18

beginning of the new year. I have

6:21

not had a drop of alcohol! this

6:23

year. Do you do the dry January

6:25

thing? I don't want to put that

6:27

much of a pressure on myself, dry

6:30

January, like what if I decide I

6:32

have a drink tomorrow, or what if

6:34

I don't have a drink for the

6:36

next six months? You don't want to

6:39

limit it. Yeah, so so far, it's

6:41

been good, and I haven't had a

6:43

drink, and maybe I'll have one tomorrow,

6:45

like I said, but for right here

6:48

right now, actually last time we did

6:50

the show. I did not have a

6:52

drink with me either if you might

6:54

have noticed. So usually on this by

6:57

the time we get to the end

6:59

of the yard of questions, I'm fucking

7:01

loaded. But not this time. Yeah, let's

7:04

try something different. See how it works.

7:06

So if Nick can not eat dainties,

7:08

then I don't have to drink alcohol.

7:10

But you do have a cruise coming

7:13

up. Not to Jinks, but. January 31st

7:15

is when it starts. Okay. Well, technically,

7:17

because I always have a lot of

7:19

work when it kicks off. Yeah. I

7:22

could, if I get to that point,

7:24

I could say, hey, I'll wait till,

7:26

you know, midnight. Yeah. And I did

7:28

it. But then what does that mean?

7:31

Like I said, I'm not going to

7:33

put that pressure. Plus, you don't want

7:35

to go along with that crowd, the

7:37

dry January crowd, not a bunch of

7:40

jackasses. I look like that type of

7:42

follower. Yeah, no, exactly. Like the no

7:44

nut November people? Get out of here

7:46

with that. Who was ever fallen for

7:49

that trick? Yeah. This is not dry

7:51

January, it's dry Jericho. Try that guys.

7:53

All of you followers doing the dry

7:55

January. Switch it over to dry Jericho.

7:58

There you go. Join the new the

8:00

new sensation. I know is that some

8:02

vintage Fuzzy gear you've got on? It

8:05

looks like an old-school merch. No, it's

8:07

from the 25th anniversary tour, which these

8:09

will be on sale when we come

8:11

to Joylet. Can't wait for that. You

8:14

guys might be able to come do

8:16

if it's during the winter. It's like

8:18

May 9th. It's a Friday I think.

8:20

Yeah, we got to make it there.

8:23

So that hat is very fresh off

8:25

the press off the press. Fresh off

8:27

the presses was the last tour we

8:29

did was was the first leg of

8:32

the 25th anniversary tour so it's a

8:34

good hat it fits well which I like

8:36

yeah looks good and that that that logo

8:38

is kind of retro looking though this is

8:40

yeah this is the old school fuzzy low

8:42

oh there you go that yeah this is

8:44

the original a few records and

8:47

then we switched it over took the cue

8:49

of Metallica and switched the

8:51

logo for a bit and then

8:53

we brought back the old school

8:55

one which matches the tattoo that

8:57

I have on hand. That's fully

8:59

embroidered on that hat? Fully embroidered,

9:01

yeah, well-crafted, as you can see.

9:03

Yeah. Those would be good. This

9:06

style of the back. The mesh

9:08

trucker style, yeah. I like the one

9:10

that has the little, what do you

9:12

call, those little snaps on it?

9:14

The snapback. Yeah, I don't like the

9:17

one that has the belt belted

9:19

thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. Those

9:21

are tough to operate. Yeah, yeah. I went

9:23

to Haberabordashory.

9:25

to get a cowboy hat named

9:28

Nashville. It's not a joke. I

9:30

think you're talking about your hat.

9:32

That's why I laughed. This hat now.

9:34

Okay. I have a nine and

9:36

I think three-eighths head. It's the biggest

9:39

head. What? Really? Yeah. They had to

9:41

make a special stretch out the hat for

9:44

me. Oh my goodness. I had no idea.

9:46

Well you wear that big head of yours

9:48

well. Thank you. Looks good on you. All

9:50

right. I don't take over the show. No,

9:53

no, no. I mean, this is a revelation.

9:55

We need to... We've never... You've been on

9:57

how many times we've never heard about your...

10:00

head size so hey something new.

10:02

I just went to a new

10:04

era cap.com and the biggest size

10:06

they have for sale here is

10:08

an eight and I'm a nine

10:10

and three eighths so that tells

10:12

you just what we're talking about

10:15

here. It's a big fucking cranium.

10:17

There's no more off the rack

10:19

hats for this guy. No more.

10:21

All right well guys we're gonna

10:23

veer away from the couple of

10:25

twisted sister episodes that we did

10:28

the last two weeks and go

10:30

to the listener submission list back

10:32

in the rotation the last turn

10:34

was mine so we are going

10:36

to Chris L and you're good

10:38

with that right Chris good with

10:40

I had a brief moment where

10:43

I thought we should do hot

10:45

love yeah yeah and then I

10:47

watched it I'm like now we

10:49

can't put ourselves through yet another

10:51

one of these. Now, late era

10:53

TS. We could take some time.

10:56

Is there a disclaimer at the

10:58

beginning of that one as well?

11:00

There isn't, and there's no bobcat,

11:02

and it's just basically them drag

11:04

racing with a hot shirt. It

11:06

is another 50s throwback though. All

11:08

the drag racing. Yeah, you're right.

11:11

Yeah, drag race, isn't it? Yeah.

11:13

Yeah, we just end up. complimenting

11:15

everybody's ass in the video and

11:17

how boring is that. Make no

11:19

mistake. We've gushed over their ass

11:21

is enough. Let's move on. Some

11:24

primo ass shots in the hot

11:26

love video. We'll save that. We've

11:28

discussed their group pissings enough. So

11:30

we're going to try the list.

11:32

We're going to do the usual,

11:34

you know, up to three selections

11:37

and if I don't get anything

11:39

I like, kick it back over

11:41

to... Florida and see if you

11:43

got anything in your copper that

11:45

might work. But let's see what

11:47

we got on the list. It

11:49

can, you know, brought us Twisted

11:52

Sister a couple weeks ago. I'd

11:54

do a couple of good episodes,

11:56

so let's see what happens. All

11:58

right, Nick, hit it! All

12:05

right, first one is number

12:07

1428 1428 Chris I'll send

12:09

it. Can you see that

12:11

or is that too small

12:14

on the screen for you? I

12:16

can see it. Oh, yeah, I'm

12:18

sorry L the shaded one. Yeah,

12:21

yeah, that's a no. Yeah, that's

12:23

a no Bushwood. Okay, so just

12:25

a straight up Bush. I know

12:28

we don't do we haven't

12:30

done our segment that we

12:32

do during this portion of

12:35

the show for a while.

12:37

But since Chris Jay is

12:40

a big horror movie fan,

12:42

when I typed in into

12:45

Wikipedia 1428, does that address

12:47

sound like something significant from

12:50

the horror movie universe? Is

12:53

there something to do with Nightmare Elm

12:55

Street? Is it Elm Street? It's 1428

12:57

Elm Street is the house. Yes. In

13:00

Springwood, Ohio. Springfield, Ohio? That's

13:02

Springwood, Ohio. Okay. Because I typed

13:04

it in that was the second

13:06

entry. And I'm not a massive Elm

13:08

Street fan. So the fact I was

13:10

able to guess that, it's pretty cool as

13:13

well. That's good. Double whammy on that one.

13:15

All right. Springwood is what

13:17

I do and I

13:20

see D. Snyder's ass.

13:22

So, uh, I don't

13:24

think anybody needs me

13:26

to do that tonight

13:29

again. So, take a

13:31

break from that. All

13:33

right, Nick, give us

13:35

another pull. All right.

13:37

This one is number 97.

13:40

Number 97. There you go.

13:42

Ooh. I

13:44

don't know what you think

13:47

about that. It's

13:49

interesting. Let me put

13:51

it on ice, see we come

13:54

up with a third pull.

13:56

If it don't like the

13:58

next one. one we'll do

14:01

that one okay I think we

14:03

can have a good discussion about

14:05

that one right next third and

14:07

final pull please three seventy nine

14:09

so nice that is very peaceful

14:11

uh three seventy nine pulling it

14:13

up here i wonder if we

14:15

could do one of those one

14:18

of those fall asleep to this

14:20

uh... video where you just loop

14:22

something like that for ten hours

14:24

so all three of you looking

14:26

at these numbers right now yeah

14:28

yeah i'm not looking i guess

14:30

it's not looking okay i'm not

14:32

looking okay i'm not looking did

14:35

you see that yeah that's a

14:37

no okay and that one right

14:39

so we're going back to ninety

14:41

seven yeah i think so or

14:43

do you want any interest in

14:45

any of these i guess If

14:48

you want to play that

14:50

game. I mean of those

14:53

of that group the one

14:55

you picked is probably the

14:57

The one right here. Yeah,

15:00

I think so. Okay. Well

15:02

you tell me what are

15:04

you thinking? Yeah Do you

15:06

want to go with his

15:09

other work and see what's

15:11

on here? No, okay. I

15:13

don't think so I'm

15:16

sure there's just a couple

15:18

right here. Yeah, I mean,

15:20

I'm not super excited about

15:22

it. Thinking of maybe just

15:24

kicking it back over to

15:26

see what you got in

15:28

the hopper over on Jericho's

15:30

end. I mean, I don't

15:32

know, I'm kind of torn

15:34

about that one. There's a

15:36

few discussion points that seem

15:38

interesting, but by the same

15:40

token, I'm not super excited

15:42

about it. You got anything

15:44

that you'd really want to

15:46

do toage? I think it

15:48

would be good. I've always

15:50

got a bullpen of ones

15:52

that could fit and actually

15:54

have one that kind of

15:56

fits something that we discussed

15:58

last week. So it's not

16:00

just his sister though. But

16:02

I have something in mind that might

16:04

work. Yeah, let's do that. I'm

16:06

not super excited about that second

16:09

choice. All right. I think Nick

16:11

would have gone with it. Nick's

16:13

disappointed, but he doesn't even know

16:15

what it is. But yeah, no

16:17

idea. Okay. Well, how about do

16:19

you want to, do you need

16:21

a minute? or do you got

16:23

it top of mind right now?

16:25

Like I got I got about

16:27

10 in the in line but

16:30

I have one that actually has

16:32

a connection last week so if we

16:34

want to do it we can

16:36

do it? Do you know the

16:38

album and everything? Of course. Okay

16:41

well then let's turn the

16:43

microphone over to Mrs. Jones

16:45

and let's find out what

16:48

this week song will be.

16:50

This is Jones! We haven't

16:52

had any deal, have we?

16:54

We only had the hearing

16:57

aid Stars. Right, wow. That

16:59

was it. Nothing from the...

17:01

No proper deal. Sabbath, Rainbow,

17:04

Solo, DiO. So yeah, this

17:06

is a good one. Fun

17:08

one for you guys doing

17:11

the hearing aid Stars. It

17:13

was good. You know, all

17:15

the guitar solos and mayhem

17:18

and... You know, dueling vocalists pretty

17:20

pretty outrageous, but that was a

17:22

yes, that was a big episode

17:24

for us as far as Downloads

17:27

really Yeah, people love that shit.

17:29

I'd like to listen to it.

17:31

I will. Oh, I see what

17:33

the connection is, but I'll I

17:36

won't spoil it you know the

17:38

connection I see it's not coming

17:40

to me, but Well, the featuring

17:42

obviously the D.O. band, Ronnie James,

17:45

vocals, Vivian Campbell on guitar. This

17:47

is the second D.O. record, the

17:49

classic lineup. Right. And there's not

17:52

four of them. There's five. And

17:54

it's a Vignapacy on drums, Jimmy

17:57

Bass, and on keyboards. Andy's

17:59

new favorite. I told you guys

18:01

in our group text, I don't

18:03

have the mental bandwidth to remember

18:05

his name and I already forgot

18:07

it. I'm gonna try. Claude Schnell.

18:09

Okay. Is he on the first

18:11

EO album too? What's that? I

18:13

think yeah, he did the keyboards

18:15

for intro Holy Diver and Rainbow.

18:17

The last guy that lasted in

18:19

the band with any apicy when

18:21

the whole, when the whole lineup

18:23

started collapsing. when you get to

18:26

like the lock up the Wool's

18:28

record it's vaniapacy on drums and

18:30

Claude Schnell on keyboards with whoever

18:32

else is in the band at

18:34

that point in time. So they

18:36

stayed for a little while longer

18:38

than the rest of the cats.

18:40

Okay. Well where else is Claude

18:42

Schnell gonna go? I'm sorry. There

18:44

should be no Claude Schnell bashing.

18:46

I'm sorry. No, this shouldn't be.

18:48

Ruud is maybe, though. There shouldn't

18:50

be a lot of Claude Schnaubashing.

18:52

I know nothing of the man.

18:54

It's just the name. You know,

18:56

we talked about it a little

18:58

bit last time. Which rock stars

19:00

should change their names. Claude Schnau

19:03

is probably one of them that

19:05

should have done it. Could have

19:07

been a household name if he

19:09

would have gone with something else.

19:11

But it wasn't just... You think

19:13

it could have been a hell

19:15

something? Spike Dunbar or something? We'd

19:17

be talking about him every day.

19:19

But Claude Chanel, no one cares.

19:21

Claude also played keyboards on the

19:23

hearing aid song as well. So

19:25

he was around. Oh, well, how

19:27

did we not mention him during

19:29

that episode? Well, and to tie

19:31

it into something from earlier this

19:33

episode. Claude Chanel sounds like a

19:35

cologne that you would have gotten

19:38

for Christmas that you might not

19:40

have wanted. Thanks grandma. Claude Chanel

19:42

number five for a half. Might

19:44

have to do another cologne bottle

19:46

mock-up like you did with guillotine

19:48

for men. A few episodes ago.

19:50

Maybe that's why that episode was

19:52

so popular. People were coming for

19:54

Claude Schnel talk and they didn't

19:56

get... Hey, what do I know?

19:58

He might be the guy. He

20:00

might be the, uh, the it

20:02

factor. Oh, you're getting some more

20:04

Claude Schnell talk tonight already. If

20:06

you, uh, yeah, there's, there's a,

20:08

you can see Claude Schnau. I

20:10

just pulled up a picture of

20:12

him, but it's probably easier if

20:15

I maybe put him on my

20:17

phone. I tried to remember, see

20:19

there, another reason why is Claude on

20:21

the far right there. I'd like to

20:23

get a bigger version of his picture

20:25

of his picture. Yeah. But, but, definitely

20:28

the the the mustache itself is

20:30

there you know is quite offensive

20:32

for that time yeah that was that

20:34

was not the thing at the time

20:36

right yeah so to so the fact

20:39

he had a lot of things working

20:41

against him besides just his name yeah

20:43

that was a carryover from I don't

20:45

know like I'm just going to make up

20:47

a band like free or someone would have

20:50

a guy that looks like that. I don't

20:52

even know if they did. I'm just thinking

20:54

of bands like that fog hat probably had

20:56

must have had that. Fog hat was known

20:59

for their stashes. Yeah, but but D.O. Yeah,

21:01

once you get into metal, you can't

21:03

really have a mustache. Well, Tony Iome,

21:05

man. Yeah, he's the one. And Geezer.

21:07

And those are like also guys who

21:09

carried over from previous time. Preasiest

21:12

time. Well, I'm thinking like 80s

21:14

metal. If you're an 80s metal

21:16

guy, you know, you're watching MTV

21:19

to watch 80s metal videos. Mustaches

21:21

were not cool at the time.

21:23

Yeah, you're right. Yeah, it's true.

21:26

Yeah, although porn stash Iome is

21:28

the best Iome from the No

21:30

Stranger to Love era in a

21:33

few years before, but yeah, when

21:35

he had full... porn stash going.

21:37

He was at his visual apex

21:40

in my estimation. Musically maybe least

21:42

notable, but... You can't have both.

21:44

Yeah, I guess, well, one of

21:46

the other things. Yeah. He would

21:49

be too powerful if he had

21:51

both at the same time. There

21:53

are checks and balances in the

21:55

world of Tony Iome. Too much

21:57

for one man to handle. His

22:00

music is... executive branch is stashes

22:02

the legislative. No one can be

22:04

too powerful. Right. Okay so I've

22:06

got the video here. We want

22:08

to watch the video right? This

22:10

is a fun video. It's very

22:13

Dungeons and Dragons Dio style. It

22:15

probably is best video because if

22:17

you look at Think Rainbow in

22:19

the dark was just basically deal

22:21

on the rooftop and all that

22:23

stuff and then he gets into

22:26

rock and roll children and hungry

22:28

for heaven era which is all

22:30

good stuff, but this one's very

22:32

Metal and and very like I

22:34

said very dungeons and dragons like

22:36

his lyrics. Okay. I think can

22:38

we agree that the The woman

22:41

featured in the Rainbow in the

22:43

Dark episode is the least attractive

22:45

woman ever depicted in her rock

22:47

video. I mean, you're supposed to

22:49

get hot chicks in rock videos.

22:51

What a hag they picked. Just

22:54

off the street. I'd have to

22:56

see who this says it. It's

22:58

not ringing in the bell. Terrible.

23:00

Are they worse than the chicks

23:02

in the Let's Put the X

23:04

and Sex video? Oh this, you

23:07

remember this chick from the Rainbow

23:09

in the Dark video? Well I

23:11

do, but one egg. This video

23:13

weren't great either. Nah, this this

23:15

woman is the bottom of the

23:17

bear horse. This poor woman. And

23:20

like she plants one on Vivian

23:22

in the video, you can see

23:24

him recoiling from it. It's like,

23:26

that's the, it was the genesis

23:28

of all the shit talking he

23:30

did about Dio and lately years.

23:32

Isn't it amazing that that still...

23:35

gets headlines even though D.O. has

23:37

been gone for 15 years. See

23:39

here's the thing and the most

23:41

recent one is that what Craig

23:43

Goldy talked about it and the

23:45

summerize it for us. Okay 99%

23:48

of the blame for that if

23:50

not a hundred percent is these

23:52

fucking lame interviewers who just asked

23:54

the same questions over and over

23:56

for decades. I mean, what's the

23:58

guy supposed to do? He got

24:01

a question asked to him, he

24:03

answered it. But they talk about

24:05

the same shit over and over

24:07

again. But why would Vivian Campbell

24:09

ever need to talk about his

24:11

fallout with Dio ever again at this

24:13

point? Yeah, and he really hasn't, to

24:16

be honest, when he does, he's very...

24:18

Listen, I'll tell you the story. I

24:20

know the story, and Craig Goldie, he's

24:22

going to say it, because he's still

24:24

employed by Wendy Dio in a certain

24:26

way. But it's the same thing

24:28

that happened with the David

24:31

Lee Roth band. I think we've

24:33

discussed this. You've got this

24:35

great shit-hot band with, you

24:38

know, Steve I and Billy

24:40

and Greg and Dave or

24:42

with Vivian, you know, Vinny

24:45

and Jimmy, and they put out

24:47

a record and it becomes

24:49

a hit, second record,

24:51

the touring arenas, D-O. Ozzy,

24:54

Roth, etc, etc, etc,

24:56

etc, etc, etc, say no

24:58

and those guys leave. And then you

25:01

lose the original chemistry of the band

25:03

that made those original records so great

25:05

in the first place. Yes. And you

25:07

can't replace it. Yeah. That's exactly what

25:10

happened. So Vivian left because he was

25:12

promised something and when Dio wouldn't pay

25:14

him the money or writing the songs

25:16

and for the whole band presentation.

25:19

he quit and then Ronnie got pissed and

25:21

that's kind of the whole story you

25:23

know pretty much in a nutshell. Was

25:25

it something that was kind of dangled

25:27

along like at this point we're gonna

25:29

give you a raise just hang in

25:31

there? That's the story yeah but then

25:33

Goldie's explanation was there was a slight

25:35

variance to it that I hadn't heard.

25:37

prior to that that which was

25:40

that what deal actually meant was

25:42

by the third record you guys

25:44

all should be about famous enough

25:46

where you could get solo deals

25:49

offered to you and that happening

25:51

would force my hand to basically

25:53

say okay like we're equal

25:56

partners because we're equally famous

25:58

now but that did happen

26:00

so he didn't want to he

26:02

in his eyes apparently not okay

26:04

yeah maybe any band where the

26:06

bass player has a solo album

26:09

or the drummer has a solo

26:11

album come on Herman's the German

26:13

notwithstanding yeah nobody's nobody's believing that

26:15

that's the new talking point from

26:17

Wendy D-O and you know You

26:19

know, and I get it, you

26:21

know, it's the typical Miles Copeland

26:24

on the Bring on the Night

26:26

documentary when Sting's putting together his

26:28

new band after the police and

26:30

he's got all these killers in

26:32

the band, Brandon Marcellus and Omar

26:34

Hakim and all these shit-hot jazz

26:37

guys and they sell at Madison

26:39

Square Garden and Branford Marcellus once

26:41

a raise and Miles Copeland says

26:43

no and Branford goes, well, there's

26:45

more money on the table. And

26:47

Miles go, yeah, but it stings

26:50

fucking table. So if you don't

26:52

play Madison Square Garden, I give

26:54

out zero refunds. If Sting doesn't

26:56

play, the show's canceled. So take

26:58

what we're giving you, or leave.

27:00

And so Branford left. And I

27:03

think it's the same thing with

27:05

Vivian. Promise something, didn't get it,

27:07

and goes, I'm going to go

27:09

my own way. Joines White Snake,

27:11

and everybody's happy. Right. That's fair.

27:13

I had a boss who, not

27:15

to compare myself to Vivian Campbell,

27:18

but I had a boss who

27:20

I asked for a certain amount

27:22

of money. the commission bonuses you'll

27:24

be making more than that i

27:26

said okay fine not even close

27:28

to being true once the year

27:31

ended there's no way no just

27:33

to get me in the door

27:35

yeah yeah piece of shit and

27:37

that's what they did so you

27:39

know you understand deal's point and

27:41

you understand Vivian's point and the

27:44

big picture is they never made

27:46

another great record without Vivian Campbell

27:48

in the deal band not one

27:50

great hits and great songs But

27:52

one great record, I don't think

27:54

they ever did that. Isn't it

27:57

funny how many very similar parallels

27:59

there are between Aussie and Dio

28:01

in that regard? The wives being

28:03

the sort of overlords and the...

28:05

original band quitting or bait or

28:07

I'm Ozzy's case they fired him

28:10

but wanting more of a to

28:12

be a quote-unquote band than a

28:14

solo act and you knew it

28:16

would have happened with Randy too

28:18

if Randy Randy hadn't passed away

28:20

in the plane crash The same

28:22

thing would have happened between Randy

28:25

and Ozzy. I mean when they

28:27

brought Jake and Sharon didn't even

28:29

give him any any credits for

28:31

the songs he wrote. Right. So

28:33

I'm sure Randy wasn't getting those

28:35

types of royalties either. So you

28:38

know, no, sooner or later the

28:40

the business side comes in and

28:42

all that shit goes away because

28:44

once again, it's Ozzy's table. Right.

28:46

And here's the other thing that's

28:48

true. Both cases is in general.

28:51

they basically had relative unknowns in

28:53

the band, especially on the guitar.

28:55

Sure. The guitar slot. Randy Rhodes,

28:57

yeah, he had the quiet eye

28:59

thing, but largely an unknown. Vivian

29:01

Campbell, 17 years old, nobody ever

29:04

heard of him. And to be

29:06

honest, especially, you know, certainly with

29:08

Ozzy and most likely with Dio,

29:10

I don't think either of them

29:12

expected them to be as successful.

29:14

as they eventually got with their

29:16

solo career. So when you get

29:19

unknowns in the band, you're just

29:21

like, look, you're lucky to have

29:23

a gig, let's put that together.

29:25

And the thing blows up and

29:27

just becomes massively successful, then you've,

29:29

you know, the money starts rolling

29:32

in, you know, people are like,

29:34

okay, I want my cut. And

29:36

that's when, you know, the true

29:38

pecking order comes out. Nobody expected

29:40

the Ozzy solo career to be

29:42

as successful as it was. He

29:45

was a disaster when he was

29:47

kicked out of Black Sabbath. And

29:49

I would say the same with

29:51

deals. I mean, he expected that.

29:53

Right. He'd been, like you said,

29:55

it shows how big Sabbath was

29:58

that they were able to. even

30:00

go solo but then how how

30:02

you know how good that that

30:04

those first two records were

30:06

for Aussie and deal exactly

30:08

right yeah nobody expected them

30:10

to be as popular as

30:12

they were and as good

30:14

as they were In many

30:16

respects, you could say those

30:18

albums were the musical equivalent

30:20

of the Ace Ventura movies.

30:22

Nobody fucking expected Ace Ventura

30:24

to be a fucking cultural

30:27

phenomena when they made it.

30:29

And it was. Yeah, the

30:31

truth. So, it's a good

30:33

comparison. Seriously, the first one

30:35

was on again recently I

30:37

watched it. Every time I

30:39

watched it, I'm like, this is a

30:41

masterpiece, but there's no way they...

30:43

could have anticipated it being as

30:46

popular and as much of a

30:48

moneymaker as it was. It had,

30:50

I'm thinking in the conception stage

30:53

it had the makings of like

30:55

a direct video. Yes. That was

30:57

it, yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah, wasn't

30:59

that a movie? We don't have to

31:02

get too deep on Ace Ventura, but

31:04

wasn't that a movie that was started

31:06

and scrapped many times with different people?

31:09

Like it was around for a long

31:11

time. Yeah, the script had been around.

31:13

And somehow, yeah, they got Jim Carrey

31:15

involved and off to the races.

31:17

All right. Well, I think we're ready to

31:20

get started here. Let's go ahead,

31:22

pull this one up here. One

31:24

more, one last question for Jericho

31:26

before we begin. The Claude Schnell

31:28

connection aside, why did you pick

31:31

this particular DO song to do

31:33

out of all the other ones

31:35

on the first two albums that

31:37

you could have gone with? Well,

31:39

I mean, I've had this for a

31:42

while, because I always like watching

31:44

the videos with you guys as

31:46

well. And it's just one of

31:48

those ones that I've always. You

31:50

know appreciate it as a video

31:52

appreciate it as a song. It's

31:54

very much in that 80s realm

31:57

where there's a cool you know

31:59

the visual is almost important as

32:01

the audio was. And it's just,

32:03

like I said, I have a

32:06

list, I haven't actually been written

32:08

down, but in my head, and

32:11

this is always one I thought

32:13

would be a fun one to

32:15

do. And so when we mentioned

32:18

Clodge Snell last week, I was

32:20

like, oh wow, you should bring

32:22

up Last In Line at some

32:25

point. And here we are. Okay.

32:27

I mean, I've heard the song.

32:30

It was huge on Detroit rock

32:32

radio obviously, but the video I

32:34

can't really say that I remember

32:37

it. Well there's a couple real

32:39

interesting things about the video which

32:41

we will bring up as well.

32:44

Good. That hag from the Rainbow

32:46

in the Dark video isn't it?

32:48

Is she? She is not. Hittious

32:51

woman. Go watch this. It's getting

32:53

worse and worse every time it's

32:56

brought up. Like this is the

32:58

ear of hot chicks and videos

33:00

and this is what we get.

33:03

This is... the best you could

33:05

do. It just goes to prove

33:07

that nobody knew that the D.O.

33:10

band was going to be successful.

33:12

Yeah, and in that video, especially

33:15

D. Well, he does in this

33:17

one too. D. He looks like

33:19

Carla from Cheers. He does, yes.

33:22

I never thought of that, but

33:24

it makes perfect sense. Yeah, yeah,

33:26

same hair, same demeanor, same stature.

33:29

Wow. Okay, now that makes sense

33:31

to me. It all makes sense.

33:33

Okay. Let's take a quick commercial

33:36

break. So I'm going to pose

33:38

a challenge to the the four

33:41

of us We have to pick

33:43

for the way the other four

33:45

members look in the band in

33:48

this video We have to pick

33:50

one character from cheers that we

33:52

say they look most like well

33:55

you better you better be quick

33:57

because I don't think there's a

34:00

lot of air time for the

34:02

band besides the okay a flash

34:04

frame for each person. Yeah. Okay

34:07

All right, let's take a quick

34:09

break. We'll be right back with

34:11

last in So me and that

34:14

are both racing for the same

34:16

joke. I don't have. I mean,

34:18

Nick are both racing for the

34:21

same joke. I don't have a

34:23

joke. I don't have a joke.

34:26

You go ahead. Now I was

34:28

going to say is this because

34:30

the video game paper boy was

34:33

hot at the time. Well is

34:35

that supposed to be Dio? Was

34:37

he a paper boy? Because a

34:40

young... Because you know... No, that's

34:42

not supposed to be Dio, but

34:45

that is, however, a famous kid

34:47

actor. Really? By the name of

34:49

Mino Palus. Oh, okay. I don't

34:52

know... I'm going to show at

34:54

the time called Voyagers. Okay. I

34:56

think I've heard of the show.

34:59

John Eric Hexham, who was a

35:01

male model that was in this

35:03

show. who shot himself by mistake

35:06

with the fake gun. That old

35:08

story. Yes. On set. Okay. And

35:11

that was on the set of

35:13

that show? On voyagers. Wow. Okay.

35:15

So that might be even how

35:18

I heard of it. And Mino

35:20

Palouce is also the brother of

35:22

one Solé Moon Fry. Really? No

35:25

kidding. Did not know that. Geez.

35:27

The name Mino is ringing a

35:30

bell. I must have known about

35:32

this kid. It's for something recent,

35:34

but voyagers, I have no recollection

35:37

of that. Let's see, he was

35:39

on a Punky Booster episode, which

35:41

makes sense. Right. He was on

35:44

a Remington Steel episode. Uh, he

35:46

was on the bad news bears

35:48

television show. Oh, wow. I didn't

35:51

even know there was a television

35:53

show. It was very quick and

35:56

he was also in the Mash

35:58

spin-off Walter starring Gary Burgham. Oh

36:00

yeah, yeah. This kid was around.

36:03

Yeah, you know what? He did,

36:05

he was on Benson, Different Strokes

36:07

and Love Boat, so that's what

36:10

everybody was on if you were

36:12

around at that point. Yeah, you're

36:15

pretty much. And he was also

36:17

in the, I mean, Bill Horror,

36:19

is one of the kids. Okay.

36:22

Yes, a little bit. He had

36:24

quite a acting pedigree when he

36:26

showed up in the last and

36:29

line. People knew who he was.

36:31

Well, see, here we go. You're

36:33

on the second album, the first

36:36

album was a huge hit, suddenly

36:38

your budget goes up and you

36:41

can afford Mino to be in

36:43

your... You can afford him in

36:45

your video. One more thing, and

36:48

I'll be quiet now, the director

36:50

of this video is a guy

36:52

called Don Cascarelli, who is a

36:55

fairly famous director in the horror

36:57

world, for doing the phantasm franchise.

37:00

He did Beast Master and he

37:02

did Bubba Hotep. Okay. Oh, yeah,

37:04

that was like that Elvis zombie

37:07

movie or something. Was that Bruce

37:09

Campbell? Yeah, Bruce Campbell. Elvis fights

37:11

the mummy king wherever it was.

37:14

Yeah, okay. And you'll notice that

37:16

the the next single from the

37:19

deal band is We Rock. Me

37:21

knows not in the video because

37:23

after this video he demanded an

37:26

equal cut of the money coming

37:28

in from the band. Yeah. Mino

37:30

also talked a lot of shit

37:33

about D.O. Still does. Still does.

37:35

Yeah he still asked about it

37:37

decades later. Yeah I'm looking at

37:40

his IMDB credits it also says

37:42

that he once sat on Mr.

37:45

Belvedere's balls. Oh, this kid is

37:47

everywhere. That's another joke that just

37:49

will never stop getting mileage. No,

37:52

certainly on this program. Yeah. And

37:54

I'll just say this as well,

37:56

that this could be Mino's last

37:59

appearance. because after 1984 he was

38:01

not around and I would assume

38:03

this would be towards the end of

38:05

1984 because the record came out in

38:08

July. So yeah. What do you

38:10

mean he was not around? You

38:12

just quit or what happened? I'm

38:14

just looking at his IMDB and

38:16

it's Walter Remington Steel, sitting on

38:18

Mr. Balvater's balls, silver spoons, and

38:20

he's gone until 2001. He makes

38:22

an appearance and Alex in wonder,

38:24

but it looks like just maybe

38:27

just a short little film there.

38:29

I can't even. Actually, I can't

38:31

even figure out how to spell

38:33

this guy's name. I actually just

38:35

looked up Menopause. So, I have

38:37

no idea what this guy did.

38:39

M-E-E-N-O, me know. Okay, okay. Well,

38:41

him and Schnell, I don't know.

38:44

Maybe the names could have been

38:46

changed. Yeah. I think actually Snell

38:48

and him got into a fist

38:50

fight, which led him quitting the

38:52

fucking business. Oh, look at him.

38:54

He looks like, uh... The guy from

38:56

Rage Against the Machine in

38:58

later years, he's got like

39:00

the curly hair, yeah. Zach Del

39:03

Roca. Yeah, yeah. Have anybody seen

39:05

those two in the same room?

39:07

Yeah, look at this. It's my

39:10

question. Look at that. That might

39:12

be him. Oh wow, that

39:14

does look like him. Start

39:16

a conspiracy theory right now.

39:18

Mino Palus is in fact

39:20

Zach Del Roca of Rage

39:22

Against the Machine. All right,

39:25

let's keep doing- I wanted

39:27

to say musically, it's very

39:29

70s so far, the production

39:31

of it, like almost yacht-rocky.

39:33

A little bit. Who produced

39:35

this record? Brone and

39:38

James Dio produced it.

39:40

Second record, he's already

39:42

producing his own albums. Well, he

39:44

did a damn good job of

39:47

it. I mean, the first one

39:49

in this one, right? Some of

39:51

the better sounding albums in the

39:53

80s in my estimation. Drugs

39:55

sound good. Jimmy Bain, one of

39:57

the great bass tones of all.

39:59

time as far as base players

40:02

go. I also love the fact

40:04

that much like you know let's

40:06

say Sylvester Stallone who insisted on

40:08

starring and directing Rocky deal on

40:10

his first solo record and second

40:12

solo record is like now I'm

40:14

producing it like I don't want

40:17

anybody's help I know exactly what

40:19

I want to do and the

40:21

record company let him do that

40:23

well yeah you know we're all

40:25

in the biz or I have

40:27

floated with the biz that's not

40:29

easy to do yeah you're giving

40:32

somebody whatever a million dollars to

40:34

make a record and letting him

40:36

produce it himself for his first

40:38

record right especially a guy who'd

40:40

been booted out of two of

40:42

the biggest bands of the world

40:44

by that right yeah good call

40:47

so yeah but I guess at

40:49

this point he'd been around almost

40:51

20 years or he's been around

40:53

for a while but again he

40:55

was he was dispatched by rainbow

40:57

and Black Sabbath, so you know,

40:59

he's kind of like, kind of

41:02

like Ozzy, he was a little

41:04

bit on the skids when he

41:06

started his solo career and it

41:08

just blew up and set him

41:10

up for the rest of his

41:12

career, you know. I wonder if

41:14

they had an engineer who was

41:17

like, basically a producer, not getting

41:19

the credit, like, like a babysitter,

41:21

you know what I mean, like,

41:23

we're gonna send, you're our guy,

41:25

make sure this doesn't suck, if

41:27

it does, call us right away.

41:29

I'm looking at it as nobody

41:32

of any merits. No, okay. Angelo

41:34

Arcuri and Rich Markowitz. Yeah, don't

41:36

know them. Someone Italian and a

41:38

Jew were brought in. What's the

41:40

punchline? Work on the album. It's

41:42

not coming to me yet, but

41:44

it might later. Probably be better

41:47

if this punchline is separated from

41:49

the rest of the joke. That's

41:51

true. Get where I'm going with

41:53

that. But the first two albums,

41:55

he was on Warner Brothers, right?

41:57

Yeah. I mean, as big as

41:59

it gets in terms of record

42:02

labels at the time. So yeah,

42:04

there's a lot writing on this

42:06

stuff and he came through. Well

42:08

he was putting some money in

42:10

that for sure. This one was

42:12

vertigo is what the vertigo record.

42:14

I think vertigo was the UK

42:17

or the subsidiary European distribution. I

42:19

remember this being on Warner Brothers.

42:21

No it's Warner Brothers. You're looking

42:23

at the single but the album

42:25

of Warner Brothers. Oh really? Why

42:27

would that be different? I don't

42:29

know. I think because they just

42:31

didn't list it like you mentioned

42:34

probably the UK label of it.

42:36

Oh yeah, I see that. Warner

42:38

Brothers comma vertigo just overseas distribution

42:40

and whatever and once again just

42:42

so before we get into it

42:44

it's it's written by Ronnie Vivian

42:46

and Jimmy so this a band

42:49

collaboration which is what we're which

42:51

is what our point was about

42:53

about the whole chemistry they had

42:55

exactly you know in which again

42:57

is you know these guys were

42:59

equal contributors that why shouldn't they

43:01

get a cut of the money

43:04

and why should they feel entitled

43:06

to it you know All right,

43:08

let's keep going There he is

43:10

there he is there is right

43:12

there is right there is right

43:14

there Claude Schnell gets the first

43:16

Face time with the fucking shades

43:19

like you want Claude you got

43:21

him? Yeah, you did cool Claude

43:23

Shnell, Hetfield, it looks like. Yeah.

43:25

Well, as I said in the

43:27

group chat, Claude Shnell is essentially

43:29

a full-grown Peter Dinklage. So, he's

43:31

got those vibes going on. I

43:34

think he looks pretty cool here.

43:36

I'm starting to change my tune

43:38

on. This is a good luck.

43:40

Yeah, he doesn't look bad. Especially

43:42

for this time. Hair is a

43:44

little. Frizzy but other than that

43:46

you know the shades the handlebar

43:49

mustache is working for him right?

43:51

Yeah, he looks cool with the

43:53

shades He's got the poofy hair

43:55

and stuff and like throwing the

43:57

horns This is the yeah, throwing

43:59

the horns he gets the very

44:01

first appearing before deal even. Yeah,

44:04

so who from Cheers is Claude

44:06

Schnell? Oh boy. That's Cliff Clavin

44:08

all the way. Cliff Clavin, okay.

44:10

Yes, exactly. That's the one. The

44:12

mustache. Yeah. Okay, we got Cliff.

44:14

Yeah, he pulled up on this

44:16

kid. He's gonna... Claude is just

44:19

giving you a random figure about

44:21

keyboard and piano. That may or

44:23

may not be true, like everything

44:25

Cliff Clavin ever said. Yep. So

44:27

he just pulled in front of

44:29

this kid and started rattling. Hey

44:31

Ronnie! Hey Ronnie! I got this

44:34

keyboard riff I took from Chekhovsky.

44:37

So I just rewined it a

44:39

bit so we can see the

44:42

Claude appearance one more time. Sure.

44:44

I think that might be it

44:46

for him. Okay. That's it. I

44:48

like the card just pulls up

44:50

too, like fucking A. The kid's

44:53

out of there. Yeah. It's a

44:55

bicycle lesson or something. Can I

44:57

just also say too? We've been

44:59

laughing at the video, but Ronnie

45:02

James D. One of the best

45:04

lyricists in the genre for sure.

45:06

We're a ship without a storm.

45:08

We're cold without a warm a

45:10

light inside the darkness. Let it

45:13

be I mean, that's just fucking

45:15

poetry, man I didn't pay attention

45:17

to him glad you brought it

45:19

up I Don't know the cold

45:22

without a warm is a little

45:24

dicey for me The other two

45:26

lines are fine cold without a

45:28

warm. I don't know. That's a

45:30

little boy or a line for

45:33

me But we're a ship without

45:35

a storm, it rhymes. Well I

45:37

know, yes it does, but still,

45:39

that's pushing it. The next line,

45:42

I'm trying to make sense of,

45:44

I guess we'll get to that

45:46

in a moment. Okay. Oh, okay.

45:48

after crying? The hope without the

45:50

fear. Yeah, it's all opposites. Well,

45:53

but I guess so, but it

45:55

could be laughing until you cry.

45:57

Well, yes, of course it can

45:59

be that, but that's not what

46:02

it is. It's all opposites. Well.

46:04

Jesus, get your head in the

46:06

game. You're reaching for you at

46:08

this point. I remember hearing this

46:11

on the radio, Chris mentioned it

46:13

was popular in Detroit. Well, you

46:15

could be, you could be laughing

46:17

until you're crying. Come on out

46:19

of here. Sorry, go ahead. I

46:22

agree. I just said this song

46:24

is very popular in Winnipeg Radio

46:26

as well. And I remember the

46:28

first time I heard it says

46:31

thinking. Well, I was hoping for

46:33

something heavier from D.O. But I

46:35

had this ballot, it sounds pretty

46:37

cool. The core change is all

46:39

right, he sounds good. But fuck

46:42

boy, was I wrong? Yeah, I

46:44

had the same, I was gonna

46:46

say, I had the same takeaway

46:48

when I first heard it because

46:51

like Nick said, it sounded kind

46:53

of yacht rock. Yeah, rock was

46:55

a thing, but it's just like.

46:57

Okay, you know we had the

46:59

you know shred your face off

47:02

solo and rainbow in the dark

47:04

Holy Diver is awesome, you know

47:06

caught in the middle Stand up

47:08

and shout. I mean the whole

47:11

thing right fucking balls to the

47:13

wall then you get this it's

47:15

like Okay, I'll listen to it

47:17

because the first album was great,

47:19

but it's not exactly what I

47:22

want and then you're about to

47:24

get Punched in the face here

47:26

Andy when you press play again

47:28

pull it back like three seconds

47:31

sure No problem. I was gonna

47:33

say not exactly the same but

47:35

it kind of reminds me a

47:37

little bit of Ozzie's good bite

47:39

of romance so far same kind

47:42

of vibe Yeah Yeah, yeah, so

47:44

you don't know where it's gonna

47:46

go at this point. Yeah All

47:48

right, let's keep going All

48:08

right, kicked in yeah, it did.

48:10

Yeah, prominent Schnell keyboard work That's

48:13

one of the best kick-ins ever

48:15

to that it is amazing drumming

48:17

of vignapacy. Oh, yeah Who when

48:20

I had Vivian Campbell on talk

48:22

is Jericho said that Vivian was

48:25

the loudest drummer he's ever played

48:27

in front of in his whole

48:29

career. Oh, I don't doubt that

48:32

at all That kick drum is

48:34

just got to rattle your innards

48:36

every time he hits it. So,

48:39

if when you're on stage with

48:41

them, and probably when you're in

48:43

the audience too. Well, yeah, no,

48:46

the first time you hear it

48:48

and you just get punched in

48:50

the face, you're like, okay, no,

48:53

this is going to be good.

48:55

And there's the follow-up. Screams too,

48:57

like, this is not a number

49:00

of the beast kick-in stream. Or

49:02

still the night scream. It's a

49:04

Ronnie James. He's got the fucking

49:07

power like that's one thing about

49:09

deal that People forget is like

49:11

yeah, he's a smaller guy with

49:14

a higher range, but he had

49:16

so much balls Yeah, vocal and

49:18

he sang like a fucking giant

49:21

Mm-hmm, which is what everybody always

49:23

says that played with him And

49:25

that scream was the perfect example

49:28

of that. Well, and along those

49:30

lines, one of the most underrated,

49:32

underappreciated intro screams and rock history

49:35

is on Gypsy on the first.

49:37

Oh yeah. That opening scream from

49:39

him is fucking incredible, man. Yeah.

49:42

Oh, and also just the arrangement

49:44

of the song is. Also very

49:47

reminiscent of the sign of the

49:49

southern cross of mob rules or

49:51

it's mellow and then it kicks

49:54

in Then video wise here the

49:56

the elevator has plummeted to where

49:58

it's now opening up and there's

50:01

some kind of a slimy you

50:03

know tentacle grabbing more me knows arm it's

50:05

a good word I was gonna see

50:07

umbilical court but yeah tentacle maybe it

50:09

is that I don't know either way

50:11

unsettling yeah yeah unsettling right look at

50:14

this our friend Bev said did you

50:16

know that tenacious D want a Grammy

50:18

for doing a cover of this song

50:20

there's my favorite miss Rattlehead she's amazing

50:22

yes she is and did you know

50:24

that said tenacious D song did not

50:26

have a guitar soul in it but rather

50:28

a flute solo Really? I never listen

50:31

to the cover. Okay. Jack Black

50:33

is... We should do a Tenacious

50:35

D song at some point, because

50:37

Jack Black is a fucking killer

50:39

singer, man. He's so good. Yeah,

50:41

I'd be up for it. Ready,

50:43

guys? Let's see what this is.

50:45

This monster grabbing Mino here. I

50:59

think it was an umbilical cord.

51:01

There's fluid. I've seen that happened.

51:04

In the elevator? If you don't

51:06

make it to the delivery room

51:09

at time, it can happen. Sure.

51:11

They gave Andy the baby, he

51:13

ran off with him. Yeah. Ran

51:16

right through the door, cut

51:18

it. I remember watching that

51:20

and thinking that milky substance

51:22

was so gross. elevator cuts

51:24

the tentacle and the milky it is

51:26

yeah yeah I don't remember this video

51:28

at all I mean that the lord

51:30

knows I consumed the song so much

51:32

on the radio but I don't remember this

51:35

video at all and I didn't know

51:37

till this day that Don Costco really

51:39

did this and I'm a Don

51:41

Costco really fan I've enjoyed all

51:44

of his movies so it's always

51:46

cool to find out little factoids

51:48

like that some 40 years later.

51:51

Well once again suddenly he's in

51:53

the budget after the unexpected success

51:55

of Holy Diver and they're opening

51:58

up the pocketbook and paying not

52:00

paying me no and this guy

52:02

meanwhile the dudes in the band

52:04

are like where's my fucking money

52:06

yeah you know this none of

52:08

this is happening unless the band

52:10

is succeeding and I'm a big

52:12

part of that so yeah and

52:15

you'll see the set to they

52:17

spent some money on this thing

52:19

so I'll bet yeah let's see

52:21

it There

52:38

he is. Yeah, Carla from Cheers.

52:40

Yeah, that's an easy one. Yeah,

52:43

I mean, slam a dog. He's

52:45

got Carla from Cheers. Yeah, that's

52:47

an easy one. Yeah, I mean,

52:49

slam a dog. He's got some

52:52

kind of Egyptian nephews. Never a

52:54

teary kind of a thing on.

52:56

We're off to the witch. We

52:58

may never, never, never come home,

53:01

but the magic that we feel

53:03

is worth a lifetime. I'm not

53:05

sure what that means, but that

53:07

is such a fucking great visual

53:10

landscape of images for that layer.

53:12

We're off to the witch. That's

53:14

still one of my all-time favorite

53:17

lyrics. And I don't really know

53:19

what it means. I don't care.

53:21

It's just fucking cool, you know?

53:23

It to me, almost seems like

53:26

it could be a play on

53:28

like a wizard of Oz type

53:30

of theme. Like we're off to

53:32

see the wizard. We're off to

53:35

the witch instead. Well, it might

53:37

be. I don't know. I didn't

53:39

know. That's just a first impression.

53:41

You know, it also could be

53:44

that because of the witch that

53:46

you're actually crying because you're laughing,

53:48

it might have something to do

53:50

with it. Laughing so hard. Yeah,

53:53

that the witch. And the worst

53:55

part is the witch. They're referring

53:57

to is the troll from the

53:59

holy diver video. Oh, yeah. Back

54:02

see her. But then Dio's laughing

54:04

so hard that he's crying. crying

54:06

about it. I think that's what

54:09

it means. Well, yeah, sonically, though,

54:11

again, we'll go back to giving

54:13

credence to the guys in the

54:15

band wanting and deserving their cut,

54:18

you know. Nobody sounded like these

54:20

guys trying to get there. You're

54:22

right, you call. Such unique tones

54:24

coming from everybody in the band

54:27

from you know Vignapacy, you know,

54:29

it's him when he plays Jimmy

54:31

Bain on the base and Vivian

54:33

Campbell who again just exploded on

54:36

the scene with the first deal

54:38

album and coming out of the

54:40

gate hot on the next one

54:42

You know just 18 year old

54:45

guitar hero fucking great great tone,

54:47

you know unique the whole band

54:49

It was just the chemistry between

54:51

them and the sound they made

54:54

couldn't be replicated by anybody else.

54:56

Yeah, and it's like you said,

54:58

he was a guitar hero instantly.

55:01

Like there was no, there was

55:03

no minor leagues for him. It

55:05

was directly to Superstar status and

55:07

writing all of these amazing riffs

55:10

and solos and all that sort

55:12

of a thing. No small feat

55:14

for a teenager, especially a teenager

55:16

in a world of guitar heroes,

55:19

which is what was happening. in

55:21

8485. Well the Rainbow in the

55:23

Dark solo is the definition of

55:25

a face melter. I mean that

55:28

when you first heard what I'll

55:30

speak for myself when I first

55:32

heard that I was just just

55:34

blown away by it and I

55:37

was like this is incredible you

55:39

know when I had Vivian talking

55:41

about last in line when they

55:43

first the original the band last

55:46

in line was playing dio songs.

55:48

with the three guys in the

55:50

band and a singer. And then

55:53

of course Jimmy's passed away since,

55:55

but he said Rainbow in the

55:57

Dark, he had to go online

55:59

and watch YouTube videos of kids

56:02

playing it to figure out what

56:04

the fuck he did to play

56:06

that. Wow. Yeah, I believe it.

56:08

Yeah. Just so out of his,

56:11

like, out of mind because he

56:13

hasn't done it for so long,

56:15

right? Just go. Funny, like, once

56:17

again. listen there's not a bigger

56:20

band than deaf leopard if there

56:22

is there's the very few but

56:24

seeing him deaf leopard it's such

56:26

a waste I mean he's he's

56:29

so perfect for it but it's

56:31

like man he barely does anything

56:33

in that band I mean that's

56:35

Phil Collins gig you know and

56:38

it's just like oh man I've

56:40

said it many times it's to

56:42

me it's the opposite it's it

56:45

shows his professionalism and it shows

56:47

his Not many guys who can

56:49

shred like he can can dial

56:51

it back to that extent and

56:54

he's just I agree Chris I'm

56:56

saying he does a great job

56:58

in the band I just wish

57:00

that he was given a chance

57:03

to do one of these fucking

57:05

face melters. Yeah, well I mean

57:07

I'm with you on that. Well

57:09

I mean the last in line

57:12

band. Well that is outlet. That's

57:14

his outlet. And by the way

57:16

those those albums are great. The

57:18

songs are great. That singer is

57:21

awesome. Jeff Pilsen, the guy from

57:23

Dauken who's in Florida, he produced

57:25

it. Great sounding. You haven't listened

57:27

to those? I have to check

57:30

it out man. Oh, do it

57:32

man. Especially the first two. I

57:34

have to. Excellent stuff. I highly

57:37

recommend it to anybody who hasn't

57:39

heard it. The material is great,

57:41

the performances are great, all excellent.

57:43

And is that, there's got to

57:46

be another example of that in

57:48

Hard Rock Heavy Metal where you've

57:50

got a band, essentially the band

57:52

without the one guy years later,

57:55

reformed to kind of continue what

57:57

they did. There's got, and it's

57:59

like such an obvious reference to

58:01

Dio, but it's. Everybody but deal,

58:04

there's got to be another example.

58:06

How about slaughter? Everybody but Vinny

58:08

Vincent. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that

58:10

would be one. A quick little

58:13

fun tidbit that I was told.

58:15

When Deaf Lepper was auditioning guitar

58:17

players after Steve Clark died, they

58:19

had three finalists. Vivian Campbell obviously

58:22

was one. John Sykes was the

58:24

other. And the third, Adrian Smith.

58:26

Hmm. I think I heard about

58:29

Adrian Smith. That was somewhat recent

58:31

that that came out, right? Yeah.

58:33

I think Adrian would have been

58:35

good in the band. I don't

58:38

think Sykes would have, because I'm

58:40

not sure I would have good

58:42

of it. Well, Sykes can sing

58:44

though. But Sykes can say he

58:47

wouldn't have been there long. Yeah.

58:49

And I don't think he could

58:51

have dialed it back like Vivian's

58:53

done. Yeah. Because you have to

58:56

be Steve Clark to a degree.

58:58

Yeah. That I don't see that

59:00

that would have worked for a

59:02

very long time. But and he's

59:05

great, I mean. But speaking of

59:07

Adrian Smith and you mentioned this

59:09

earlier with Dio's wearing here it's

59:12

funny having like the the fall

59:14

of 84 Egyptian motifs were all

59:16

the rage for heavy metal bands

59:18

between Dio and and Iron Maiden

59:21

and there was one or two

59:23

other one well and of course

59:25

on this album there's the song

59:27

Egypt the chains are on that's

59:30

right yeah one of the other

59:32

knew that the other was doing

59:34

an Egypt based album Wasn't Earth

59:36

Wind and Fire, didn't they get

59:39

into this sort of look as

59:41

well? There was some sort of,

59:43

there was like a, there was

59:45

a funk band like that. I'm

59:48

trying to think of which one.

59:50

No, I think you're right. Was

59:52

it Earth Wind and Fire? Had

59:54

this sort of Egyptian sort of

59:57

look sometimes? Yeah. You know, honestly,

59:59

I think, is it possible that

1:00:01

the influence of that was the

1:00:04

fact that the King Tut exhibit

1:00:06

toured through the 70s and 80s?

1:00:08

Yeah, it was hot then. You

1:00:10

know, Mino would have been a

1:00:13

good boy king in a movie.

1:00:15

It was something around that time.

1:00:17

You could have done it. Yeah,

1:00:19

but now Egypt themes. I know

1:00:22

we just stopped but something just

1:00:24

clicked I was trying to think

1:00:26

of what this verse. Yeah. As

1:00:28

far as songwriters go, Vivian Campbell,

1:00:31

to my knowledge, did not write

1:00:33

this other song. But it's very

1:00:35

similar in my mind to, there's

1:00:37

a song called Undefeated by Deaf

1:00:40

Leopard, which came out probably within

1:00:42

the last, I don't know, maybe

1:00:44

a little more than 10 years.

1:00:46

But the verse to me is

1:00:49

very close. Undefeated, huh? Yeah. Okay.

1:00:51

And Vivian Campbell obviously is on

1:00:53

it. And in the band at

1:00:56

that point, but I think it's

1:00:58

just Joe Elliot songwriting credit But

1:01:00

I was trying to think what

1:01:02

is this verse remind me of

1:01:05

it's very close in my opinion

1:01:07

to undefeated To check it out.

1:01:09

What album is that? Do you

1:01:11

know off the top? You know,

1:01:14

it's on the mirror ball, which

1:01:16

I think is like mostly a

1:01:18

live album, but it had a

1:01:20

couple nor is that one the

1:01:23

live one? I don't know written

1:01:25

by Joe Ellie. Yeah, yeah, it's

1:01:27

I To me, it sounds very

1:01:29

close. All right. We'll check it

1:01:32

out. We'll know for the fun

1:01:34

time. And so if you lose

1:01:36

the video game, you die. Was

1:01:38

that the actor who played the

1:01:41

Pizza Man and Men at Work?

1:01:43

Wow, I'm too scared. Yeah. And

1:01:45

he was in summer school, right?

1:01:48

I can't think of his name.

1:01:50

Mark something? No, that's Mark Harmon.

1:01:52

Mark, okay, Mark Harmon is the

1:01:54

main guy. Dean Cameron. Yes, that's

1:01:57

who it looks like. He clearly

1:01:59

had a lot of cavities. This

1:02:01

is a work done in there.

1:02:03

Got about nine fillings going on

1:02:06

in the back. This looks like

1:02:08

the scene from summer school with

1:02:10

the killer bunnies when they come

1:02:12

in the classroom. Wow. Yeah. Look

1:02:15

at that. You lose. You lose.

1:02:17

So there's some kind of mass.

1:02:19

So basically it looks like me

1:02:21

knows in some form of hell.

1:02:24

Yeah. Presided over by demons. And

1:02:26

if you're a... Lazy teen that

1:02:28

plays video games and you lose

1:02:30

yeah, then you die or if

1:02:33

you don't brush your teeth Yeah,

1:02:35

going back to the teeth rant

1:02:37

of last week's episode At least

1:02:40

he had the fillings put in

1:02:42

he didn't just let his teeth

1:02:44

rot out of his head He

1:02:46

just you got to see the

1:02:49

dentist. Yeah, he had his grill

1:02:51

taken care of like you did

1:02:53

you recommended last week not recommended

1:02:55

mandate Has to be done right

1:02:58

is a Is David in our

1:03:00

chat, is he throwing out another

1:03:02

band where it's kind of essentially

1:03:04

the same band without one key

1:03:07

member, Quiet Riot, was thrown out

1:03:09

there? That would work too, right?

1:03:11

That happened a couple of times

1:03:13

to Quiet Riot, didn't it? Yeah,

1:03:16

kind of. If you're going with

1:03:18

After Do Bro Left on the

1:03:20

QR3 record, that was already Chuck

1:03:22

Wright on the band. Yeah. And

1:03:25

I guess and without Randy Rhodes

1:03:27

right they continued on just without

1:03:29

him for a while obviously Yeah,

1:03:32

that's true. Yeah, you're right now.

1:03:34

That does that fits. That fits.

1:03:36

Yeah Okay What's

1:03:55

going on? I don't know. The

1:03:57

music is great and serious, but

1:03:59

the video. just got a little

1:04:01

bit zani there for a minute.

1:04:03

Yeah, it's going into kind of

1:04:05

a be cruel to your school.

1:04:07

A little bit because there's a

1:04:09

guy who kind of look like

1:04:11

a zombie. Yeah, and there's a

1:04:13

bunch of kids kind of stomping

1:04:15

around in the same way. Like,

1:04:17

like they're mindless, you know, again,

1:04:19

zombies just stomping around. Yeah, they're

1:04:21

like denizens of hell. Yeah. Yeah,

1:04:23

some of them have makeup. I

1:04:25

don't know. COVID mask right there.

1:04:27

Yeah, I'm also going to point

1:04:29

out as well that if anybody

1:04:31

keeping track that last in line

1:04:33

the the song is actually five

1:04:35

minutes and 48 seconds. I was

1:04:37

just about to say that they

1:04:39

cut a whole section out of

1:04:41

it. And this is just over

1:04:43

four minutes. I think they're actually

1:04:45

getting ready to go into the

1:04:48

guitar. So yeah, there's a whole

1:04:50

other verse and chorus that they

1:04:52

cut out of it for this.

1:04:54

Yeah, that's yeah, that's true. That's

1:04:56

a good call. And they truncated

1:04:58

the intro. Everybody in the

1:05:00

chat, that's Michael, he said chili peppers

1:05:02

too without for shots. He's right. Yeah,

1:05:04

that's a good call. A couple times.

1:05:07

Iron Maiden, went on without Adrian Smith,

1:05:09

and went on without Dick and soon

1:05:11

at one point. That's true. Yeah. So

1:05:13

they wouldn't, I guess, was balls to

1:05:16

Picasso during that era, right? Yeah. That

1:05:18

was up for Bruce Left, yeah. Yeah,

1:05:20

one of the one of the great,

1:05:23

one of the great album titles of

1:05:25

all time. Absolutely. Nonsenseical, unless it's from

1:05:27

a book or something that I don't

1:05:29

know. But the best thing of all

1:05:32

is it took me years to figure

1:05:34

out the cover, which is obviously Bruce,

1:05:36

and there's two squares drawn beside him

1:05:38

on a wall. So those are the

1:05:41

balls. Those are the balls in the

1:05:43

style of Picasso. Picasso. That's cerebral. From

1:05:45

Picasso's cubist era apparently. Exactly. Cubist balls.

1:05:47

That would be a little uncomfortable if

1:05:50

you had sharp edges on your balls

1:05:52

sitting down. Or pretty

1:05:54

much doing anything life

1:05:56

would be different.

1:05:59

I mean, that's why

1:06:01

you know nature

1:06:03

made balls and like

1:06:05

an oval shape I

1:06:08

mean you got to be able to move

1:06:11

around you got those sharp corners That's that's

1:06:13

gonna be wrong cubes would be kind of

1:06:15

weird. I mean they You wouldn't have to

1:06:17

worry about the right one in the left

1:06:19

one getting mixed up with each other I'd

1:06:23

have mine done up in a

1:06:26

dice motif It's

1:06:28

some decals fuzzy

1:06:30

dice the very definition of fuzzy

1:06:32

dice Chris would weigh them

1:06:34

so that he would win. He

1:06:37

would roll sevens every single

1:06:39

time That's right Did

1:06:41

you know that playing craps in

1:06:43

the alley with his balls? Did

1:06:46

you know that Wombats have

1:06:49

square poop. Yes. Yeah, you knew

1:06:51

that heard that. I did

1:06:53

not know that Here ladies and

1:06:55

gentlemen, do we know why

1:06:57

is an evolutionary reason for that?

1:06:59

They're working on getting them

1:07:01

rounder these They're behind actually it

1:07:03

actually begat one of the

1:07:05

most famous of displays poop to

1:07:08

Picasso Which

1:07:10

is also a square. Yeah And

1:07:30

The guitar solo is cut in

1:07:32

half to they cut out

1:07:34

a Halloween Halloween on this one.

1:07:36

Yeah, it's a little disappointing But

1:07:40

yeah, I get it But yeah,

1:07:42

I didn't know that like I

1:07:44

said, I've never I don't recall

1:07:46

ever seeing this video and yeah

1:07:48

I didn't I didn't realize it

1:07:50

was that much shorter. Yeah, they

1:07:52

cut a lot out of it

1:07:54

Geez, it's start in the middle

1:07:56

or did it kind of Beating

1:07:58

to intro second verse and they

1:08:00

cut Probably half of the guitar

1:08:02

solo. Yeah, 16 bars the

1:08:05

guitar solo. Yeah. How long

1:08:07

is this song on the

1:08:09

album? Like we said 548.

1:08:11

548, okay. Yeah. All right,

1:08:14

gotcha. I mean, when you

1:08:16

got a guy of the

1:08:18

stature of Mino on screen,

1:08:20

why don't you give him

1:08:23

the full 548? I mean,

1:08:25

you paid for it. Well,

1:08:27

where are we at right

1:08:29

now? What time? 214. I

1:08:32

think Bobcat would have still

1:08:34

been on the screen. Yeah,

1:08:36

we're already at the guitar

1:08:38

cell over here. Yeah. Good

1:08:41

point. Dio didn't have a

1:08:43

twisted sister pool. He's got

1:08:45

a little Woody Harrelson in

1:08:47

his face there when they're

1:08:50

showing him. Right? He's got

1:08:52

a little woody going on.

1:08:54

He also looks like a

1:08:56

grown-up mino as well. A

1:08:59

little bit, yeah. He does.

1:09:01

All right, so we detect

1:09:03

any Woody Harrelson. Do we

1:09:05

detect any Egyptian trinkets on

1:09:08

him? Is there anything like,

1:09:10

is there a pyramid in

1:09:12

that necklace? That looks like

1:09:14

something from Harry Potter. Does

1:09:17

it? I think it's actually

1:09:19

the tip of the staff

1:09:21

and raiders lost Ark that

1:09:23

hot grabs and it burns

1:09:26

into his hand. I mean,

1:09:28

that could very well be

1:09:30

some sort of Egyptian. That

1:09:32

piece in the middle looks

1:09:35

like a disembodied tit a

1:09:37

little bit. Was that a

1:09:39

thing in Egypt? Looks like

1:09:42

one of Nick Nick's dainties.

1:09:44

Yeah, exactly. Hershey's kiss dainty

1:09:46

that looks like a tip.

1:09:48

The thumbprint. He's wearing a

1:09:51

thumbprint cookie around his neck.

1:09:53

Some sort of tie, it

1:09:55

resembled a hieroglyphic I believe,

1:09:57

which is where. was the

1:10:00

original origin of it. Ancient

1:10:02

recipe. Yeah. One thing I'm

1:10:04

gonna point out to show you guys,

1:10:06

probably now might be a good point,

1:10:08

is I never thought Jimmy Bain was

1:10:10

in the video, but I think he

1:10:12

actually is. I think we saw him

1:10:15

a couple seconds ago as one of

1:10:17

the zombies pushing like a shopping cart

1:10:19

or something. Really? Really? They made him

1:10:21

do that. Just a little bit. He

1:10:23

didn't get his instrument in

1:10:25

the video? Let's see. There's Jay

1:10:27

Len, Jay Leno. Try it from

1:10:29

there and to tell you what

1:10:32

I think. Jay Leno. Alright, we'll

1:10:34

go. Yeah, it's fine. You

1:10:36

think that's him? That might

1:10:38

be him. Yeah, that's him.

1:10:40

That's him. That's him. That's

1:10:43

him. Talk about not even

1:10:45

getting a look at the

1:10:47

camera or anything. What a good

1:10:49

sport though. He co-wrote the song though.

1:10:51

I know, he should have been playing the bass

1:10:53

in the video, but I'm saying you'd think most

1:10:55

of these guys would be like if I'm not

1:10:57

doing, if I'm not playing, I'm not going to

1:11:00

play a background actor. But at least if

1:11:02

he would have looked at the camera, we

1:11:04

could have told it, because I said 40

1:11:06

years of watching this video, I've probably seen

1:11:08

it 50 times. I never realized that

1:11:10

Jimmy Bain was in it

1:11:12

until right now. Wow, okay.

1:11:15

It's hard to, hard to

1:11:17

pull a cheers comparison with

1:11:19

this angle, but I think

1:11:21

we can get one. Rebecca.

1:11:24

That's going to see Rebecca.

1:11:26

From here, I mean, she

1:11:28

wore blazers. It's either Rebecca

1:11:30

or Lilith. I'm going to

1:11:32

say Rebecca. I was thinking

1:11:35

of something. Both had Rebecca.

1:11:37

Couldn't be a George Wende.

1:11:39

He looks pretty beefy and

1:11:41

he could really hear. He

1:11:43

also wore a suit all

1:11:45

the time. Robin Colcord maybe.

1:11:47

Who's that? I don't even

1:11:49

know which character that was. That

1:11:52

was the guy who tried

1:11:54

to steal Rebecca. He was

1:11:56

his name, the sheriff of

1:11:58

Rottingham in Robin Hood. men

1:12:00

in tights. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:12:02

he was a major character. Yeah

1:12:04

he was, he was Rebecca's boyfriend,

1:12:07

wasn't he? Yeah, he was like

1:12:09

trying to steal her away basically,

1:12:11

he was rich and you know,

1:12:13

using all that. All right, fine.

1:12:16

So who is, so are we

1:12:18

sticking with Rebecca? Yes, did Joyce

1:12:20

to wit ever guest star on

1:12:22

Cheers? No, not that I know

1:12:25

of. Because that could be her

1:12:27

as well. I'm

1:12:37

sorry. That looks like Paul Giamati

1:12:39

in the electric chair. Could have

1:12:42

been an early role for him.

1:12:44

Could have been. We learned... Never

1:12:46

know, Matt. Luke Perry was in

1:12:48

the Twisted Sister video. Exactly. It's

1:12:50

going to be Paul Giamati. Brought

1:12:52

onto the next album to, what

1:12:55

did it say, additional shouts on

1:12:57

the Love Is for Suckers album.

1:12:59

Yeah. Yeah,

1:13:22

was that Vinny? Vinny with the

1:13:24

Flintstone's drum kit going on. Timpenny's.

1:13:27

Yeah. I think Vinny gets the

1:13:29

George Wend comparison. Yeah, that works.

1:13:32

Yeah. Mommy. Vinny. Mommy Paul. All

1:13:34

right, that's everybody, isn't it? Yeah,

1:13:36

we did it. We got everybody.

1:13:39

Okay, our work here is. Well,

1:13:41

assuming that was Jimmy Bain, which

1:13:44

probably, yeah. By his nose, I

1:13:46

could tell with him. Interesting, he's

1:13:48

the only one, well, Schnell didn't

1:13:51

like have a keyboard on him

1:13:53

when he was in the car

1:13:55

or so. Well, at least we

1:13:58

got to see his face, close

1:14:00

on stuff. He had the, he

1:14:03

had probably the most focused shot

1:14:05

on his face. Like very much

1:14:07

featured. Yeah, Vivian did. But yeah,

1:14:10

Schnell was just like, we're just

1:14:12

gonna zoom in on you and

1:14:14

stay there for a few seconds.

1:14:17

Yeah, better than what Jimmy got

1:14:19

he got the best shot I

1:14:22

think if I had to pick

1:14:24

any shot in the whole video

1:14:26

I'm taking the shinnell If I

1:14:29

if I were an artist and

1:14:31

I needed to do a portrait

1:14:34

You're coming around a shinnell dude.

1:14:36

Hey, he turned me with that

1:14:38

shot at the beginning That's that

1:14:41

making the most all right. You

1:14:43

got five seconds. What do you

1:14:45

want to do? I got it

1:14:48

He made the most of an

1:14:50

impression. If I'm an artist and

1:14:53

I have to do a portrait

1:14:55

of one person in this video.

1:14:57

Oh no. Schnell's giving you the

1:15:00

most to work with. Well Nick,

1:15:02

I like that. I'm challenging Nick

1:15:04

to a pencil sketch of Claude

1:15:07

Schnell to share with us. For

1:15:09

next week, I'm bringing a pencil

1:15:12

sketch of Claude Schnell from this

1:15:14

video. Five hundred and ninety episodes

1:15:16

in and we finally established which

1:15:19

will now for be known as

1:15:21

the Schnell shot. That's it. Nick

1:15:24

doesn't have enough to do in

1:15:26

his life. I'm gonna draw close.

1:15:28

No, I'm gonna spend a week

1:15:31

on this. Go back a few

1:15:33

frames. You know what? And we're

1:15:35

gonna pick a. Right there. Patriot

1:15:38

member that's gonna win it. Okay.

1:15:40

So right here we have we

1:15:43

have another guest appearance by the

1:15:45

guy who played Waldo in the

1:15:47

Hot for Teacher video. Yeah. He's

1:15:50

returned to, you know. Who did

1:15:52

Waldo's voice? It was someone famous.

1:15:54

Phil Hartman. That's right. We talked

1:15:57

about that before. We've never done

1:15:59

hot for teacher. No, but we

1:16:02

talked about that I think on

1:16:04

an episode somewhere. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1:16:06

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's that's

1:16:09

a legendary incredible video. That's another

1:16:11

one that the first time you

1:16:13

see it. You're like this is

1:16:16

the greatest thing ever. Yeah, exactly.

1:16:18

And so here we have Waldo

1:16:21

continuing the momentum of 1984. doesn't

1:16:23

the deal demon have a name

1:16:25

everything? I'll play this too when

1:16:28

I mention that the video had

1:16:30

a big budget. Like this is

1:16:33

not 2025. Like I don't know

1:16:35

like how they did that in

1:16:37

2024 where there's miniatures or whatever

1:16:40

it was. It's a pretty that's

1:16:42

a pretty cool shot. Like that

1:16:44

looks like a that fucking demon

1:16:47

from the first two actually first

1:16:49

three records Murray. Yeah. I'd say

1:16:52

that's a pretty bad ass special

1:16:54

effect for this time frame. It

1:16:56

is. It looks cool. And there's

1:16:59

like, I don't know. It looks

1:17:01

three-dimensional, like it looks, I mean,

1:17:03

maybe it's a guy that they

1:17:06

superimposed in front of, whatever it

1:17:08

was, it's still pretty cool. I

1:17:11

mean, it looks like it could

1:17:13

have been something in a Godzilla

1:17:15

movie. I was just about to

1:17:18

say Ultraman or Johnny Soccer, something

1:17:20

like that. Yeah, totally. There's a

1:17:23

question from Jackie. So who is

1:17:25

Murray in the Cheers universe? Coach.

1:17:27

Doesn't say much. No, Murray and

1:17:30

the Cheers universe is Verna. Oh,

1:17:32

because you never see her. Right.

1:17:34

Okay. There you go. That's why.

1:17:37

Is it Verna? No, it's Vera.

1:17:39

Vera. Vera. What's his name's wife,

1:17:42

right? Norm's wife. Norm's wife. He's

1:17:44

always talking. One time you see

1:17:46

her and her face is covered

1:17:49

because she got hit with a

1:17:51

pie, she's mad. The

1:18:22

ballgads are out. Fun. Volkery,

1:18:24

I love how he changes

1:18:26

that chorus there at the

1:18:28

end, whereas early as like,

1:18:31

the only way is down,

1:18:33

this one is like, the

1:18:35

only way to go is

1:18:37

down. Like he adds a

1:18:39

little bit of an extra,

1:18:41

like, and this always freaked

1:18:43

me out, because remember Friday

1:18:45

night videos, do you remember

1:18:47

that Chris, that show? I

1:18:49

do. Yeah, so it was

1:18:51

like a NBC show that

1:18:53

was like, For us kind

1:18:55

of the only place you

1:18:57

can see videos because we

1:18:59

didn't have local video shows

1:19:01

yet and we didn't have

1:19:03

much music This was in

1:19:05

the preview and I was

1:19:07

like this is fucking creepy

1:19:09

like that looks really weird

1:19:11

You know very clockwork orange

1:19:13

ask yeah, but the but

1:19:15

the guys got green skin

1:19:17

and then there's this pipe

1:19:19

thing and he's got the

1:19:21

the buckle the circle buckle

1:19:23

on his forehead. I just

1:19:25

they look very very Almost

1:19:27

looks like the kick-axe vices

1:19:29

contraption a little bit. Yeah,

1:19:31

kind of. With Dave Mustain's

1:19:33

bullet belt holding it up.

1:19:35

And a Duke Law stuck

1:19:37

in his back. Yeah. Yeah.

1:19:39

I mean, the theme of

1:19:42

the video, if I'm picking

1:19:44

up on it correctly, is

1:19:46

more... it's more applicable now

1:19:48

probably than it even was

1:19:50

then. people being just kind

1:19:52

of people being walking around

1:19:54

being zombies slave slaves to

1:19:56

their technology yeah good call

1:19:58

i mean it's deal with

1:20:00

a profit i mean that's

1:20:02

like 40 years ago and

1:20:04

it's this it's more true

1:20:06

now than i think it

1:20:08

was back then That's a

1:20:10

good call. Yeah, people just

1:20:12

looking at their video games

1:20:14

and their TVs and now

1:20:16

it's the phones and whole

1:20:18

world's gone crazy. Yes, it

1:20:20

has. Listen to those bullshit

1:20:22

podcasts all day long. There

1:20:24

you go. Yeah, this whole

1:20:26

gag is Sam for sure.

1:20:28

The guy was a freak.

1:20:30

That could be Sam. I

1:20:32

like that. Same hair. Yeah,

1:20:34

similar. Bad toothay. The things

1:20:36

holding his eyes open could

1:20:38

underneath could be confused for

1:20:40

the eye black that ball

1:20:42

players wear. Nicki Six. Well

1:20:44

Sam was a baseball player

1:20:46

wasn't he? Yeah yeah. He

1:20:48

was not a base player

1:20:50

and not. I'm just saying

1:20:53

it looks like something Nicki.

1:20:55

He said baseball player not

1:20:57

base player. Oh sorry. Okay.

1:20:59

Yeah. Was this concept introduced

1:21:01

in Clockwork Orange? Is that

1:21:03

what that's from? Well, I

1:21:05

mentioned that earlier, yes, but

1:21:07

yeah, that's the scene where

1:21:09

they got his eyes prompt

1:21:11

open and the guys putting

1:21:13

saline drops in his eyes

1:21:15

and making them watch all

1:21:17

this horrific shit. Yeah. The

1:21:19

purpose of reprogramming them. Okay.

1:21:21

Yeah. I don't know. I

1:21:23

mean, I would imagine something,

1:21:25

I mean, think about just

1:21:27

even millennia ago, the. crazy

1:21:29

weird stuff people did to

1:21:31

each other. Probably existed to

1:21:33

some degree. Which part do

1:21:35

you mean? No, I'm saying

1:21:37

like this weird technique of

1:21:39

holding someone's eyes open. Oh

1:21:41

yeah, but they're not making

1:21:43

them watch a video. Well,

1:21:45

no, but I'm just saying...

1:21:47

Doing something like that? Something

1:21:49

horrific? Yeah. Probably existed for

1:21:51

sure. Hundreds of years, I

1:21:53

would imagine. Not even. I

1:21:55

would say within 70, 80

1:21:57

years ago, people are doing

1:21:59

this crazy shit. I mean...

1:22:01

you know electroshock therapy and

1:22:04

all this weird stuff. Well

1:22:06

that's only because we had

1:22:08

the ability to do it.

1:22:10

If we had the ability

1:22:12

to do it millennia ago,

1:22:14

we'd be doing it. We'd

1:22:16

be doing it. We'd have

1:22:18

been doing it to each

1:22:20

other. Oh, I know that,

1:22:22

but yes. Yeah, unfortunately. Technology

1:22:24

needs to catch up with

1:22:26

our carnivorous appetite for torturing

1:22:28

each other. Geez. Right back

1:22:30

in the bummer zone that

1:22:32

we were in when we

1:22:34

started the episode. It's not

1:22:36

our fault. It's not our

1:22:38

fault this guy appeared on

1:22:40

the screen. You know, you

1:22:42

must get him off the

1:22:44

screen. They even put eyeliner

1:22:46

on him to accent everything

1:22:48

they did. Yeah. You know.

1:22:50

Stopping it again. He just

1:22:52

started it. Played by a

1:22:54

young Mike Dernt with his

1:22:56

eyeliner, I think. Yeah, well.

1:22:58

Nick's a doppelganger. It looks

1:23:00

a little bit like Justin

1:23:02

Long actually he does yeah,

1:23:04

I see that same hairdo.

1:23:06

Yeah, long kind of oval

1:23:08

face. Yeah Because you're talking

1:23:10

to a crime fucking artist

1:23:12

Oval-based He

1:23:40

tased him right in the balls

1:23:42

in the square ones. He's not

1:23:44

tall enough to go any any

1:23:47

higher He's all right in the

1:23:49

ball level and that's where he

1:23:51

fucking nailed the guy for those

1:23:53

you're not watching the video Meano

1:23:55

gets attacked by a demon pulls

1:23:58

out his veins more milky substances

1:24:00

and then deal gets thrown some

1:24:02

sort of a light saber yeah

1:24:04

and that torch is the guy

1:24:06

right in the fucking yitesies hmm

1:24:09

so is Mino playing a young

1:24:11

deal or is Dio playing a

1:24:13

young Mino well that's you probably

1:24:15

for is the young Vivian Campbell

1:24:18

he kind of looks the same

1:24:20

like Vivian Campbell is he just

1:24:22

merely a paper boy that was

1:24:24

delivering a prescription or papers or

1:24:26

whatever to the office building and

1:24:29

got caught up on all this

1:24:31

rigmarole yeah hmm yeah and he's

1:24:33

got it paused right there that's

1:24:35

Ball shot ball he's shocking the

1:24:37

monkey right now So

1:25:13

it seemed at the end that

1:25:15

Dio was like being taken hostage

1:25:17

for helping Mino get free? Oh,

1:25:19

he sacrificed himself for the betterment

1:25:21

of Mino. Is that what happened?

1:25:23

I do like also at the

1:25:25

end where he goes, it's the

1:25:27

last end, we're the last in,

1:25:30

we're the first in line. He

1:25:32

just flipped it, yeah. Yeah. So,

1:25:34

Mino got back in the elevator.

1:25:36

Dio's taken away. And I always

1:25:38

wondered about the title of this

1:25:40

song, what it means. The only

1:25:42

thing I can think of is,

1:25:45

there's a biblical reference about the

1:25:47

last shall be first, first shall

1:25:49

be last. Could be. But yeah,

1:25:51

aside from that, I'm not quite

1:25:53

sure. But when I first heard

1:25:55

this song on the radio and

1:25:57

I didn't know what it was

1:25:59

called, I thought it was called

1:26:02

Everlasting Life. Oh yeah, it works.

1:26:04

Everlasting! Everlasting! Everlasting! Then I was like

1:26:06

the last in line. That's

1:26:09

not what it's called, everlasting

1:26:11

life. And I would ridicule

1:26:14

and laugh out of school.

1:26:16

By your teacher. Yeah, yeah,

1:26:18

right. D. Snyder. Bobcat. Or

1:26:21

I mean Bobcat turned into

1:26:23

D. Snyder. Right. Yeah. All

1:26:26

right so it's time for

1:26:28

us to vote sweet surrender

1:26:31

or kick in the crotch

1:26:33

Chris Jay why don't you

1:26:36

go first Ronnie James Jericho

1:26:38

over there I mean

1:26:40

once again it's edited

1:26:43

but it's a classic

1:26:45

so definitely sweet surrender

1:26:48

I think if you

1:26:50

had to the you know gun ahead

1:26:52

what's my favorite deal song of all

1:26:54

time that would that would be top

1:26:56

three maybe even maybe even

1:26:58

my favorite depending on what date

1:27:00

is but uh once again just a

1:27:02

fucking great riff great vocals the band

1:27:05

is hot the video is great for

1:27:07

the time and from for the age

1:27:09

that i was when it came out

1:27:11

i was the perfect demographic for it

1:27:13

and here i am 40 years later

1:27:15

and still the perfect demographic

1:27:17

for it so i love it

1:27:19

perfect I must give it a

1:27:22

sweet surrender as well.

1:27:24

Just made me think

1:27:26

of, back when Dio

1:27:28

died, I learned about

1:27:30

it. I was in

1:27:33

New York having breakfast

1:27:35

across from the, where

1:27:37

they do the Today Show,

1:27:40

that outdoor area. Yeah, I

1:27:42

saw it on. Marquis, like

1:27:45

a news headline kind of

1:27:47

Marquis thing on the building

1:27:50

there. I just reminded me

1:27:52

of that. One thing that

1:27:54

I like about the deal

1:27:57

band is that deal comes

1:27:59

from Rainbow, which you

1:28:01

know, comes from Deep

1:28:03

Purple, and a lot

1:28:05

of times it's too

1:28:07

keyboard heavy for me,

1:28:09

but it's heavier on

1:28:11

the guitar. Keyboards there,

1:28:13

but it's always to,

1:28:15

I think, a greater

1:28:18

overall effect in the

1:28:20

Dio records. Kind of

1:28:22

like if you're listening

1:28:24

to, or if you're

1:28:26

watching some old Ozzy

1:28:28

stuff, you listen to

1:28:30

the tribute album. And

1:28:32

the keyboards are there,

1:28:34

but they're not taking

1:28:36

over. But you listen

1:28:38

to some stuff from

1:28:40

even the Randy Rhodes

1:28:42

era, but definitely when

1:28:44

Jakey Lee came in,

1:28:46

and the keyboards are

1:28:48

way too heavy. Like

1:28:50

it's way too loud,

1:28:52

and it really takes

1:28:54

away from the heaviness

1:28:56

of everything. So that's

1:28:58

something I really always

1:29:00

liked about the, you

1:29:02

know, deal coming from

1:29:04

those bands. But it's

1:29:06

a greater overall heaviness

1:29:08

in my opinion when

1:29:10

it's concentrated like this.

1:29:13

All right, Chris, L.

1:29:15

Oh yeah, Sweet Surrender.

1:29:17

Yeah, I mean, if

1:29:19

I had my drawers,

1:29:21

I could have... done

1:29:23

without the video and

1:29:25

would have preferred to

1:29:27

hear the uncut version,

1:29:29

but whatever we got

1:29:31

some good commentary out

1:29:33

of the video. But

1:29:35

yeah, sonically, these were

1:29:37

great sounding records. And

1:29:39

when you heard them

1:29:41

on FM radio, they

1:29:43

just exploded out of

1:29:45

the speakers. Vivian Campbell

1:29:47

was major guitar hero

1:29:49

of the era. Just,

1:29:51

you know. Like I

1:29:53

said before the the

1:29:55

four of these guys

1:29:57

together just this the

1:29:59

sound they made to

1:30:01

Together very unique very

1:30:03

signature and You know

1:30:06

lens credence to the

1:30:08

fact that you know

1:30:10

these guys deserve the

1:30:12

they're cut, you know.

1:30:14

Band doesn't get that

1:30:16

successful if the material

1:30:18

and sonically if it's

1:30:20

not all firing at

1:30:22

all cylinders and everybody

1:30:24

in the band had

1:30:26

a hand in that.

1:30:28

All right, well my

1:30:30

turn I'm going to

1:30:32

give it a sweet

1:30:34

surrender as well. Always

1:30:36

been a failure. I

1:30:38

don't know deal like

1:30:40

front to back maybe

1:30:42

like you guys do

1:30:44

Know the hits. This

1:30:46

is one of them

1:30:48

and That's it. So

1:30:50

guess what it's? It's

1:30:52

time I have a

1:30:54

question for you time

1:30:56

to vote has to

1:30:58

be unanimous Rock and

1:31:01

Roll Boner from the

1:31:03

four Rock and Roll

1:31:05

Boners on today's broadcast.

1:31:07

My vote is in.

1:31:09

What about you guys?

1:31:11

Mine's in. All right,

1:31:13

same order, which would

1:31:15

be Chris J. Nick,

1:31:17

Chris L. Me. Ready?

1:31:19

Rock and Roll. Boner!

1:31:37

Thank you be a damn fool to

1:31:40

disagree with us. Yeah, I mean it

1:31:42

makes it especially impressive when you follow

1:31:44

up a classic with something equally potent,

1:31:47

which is pretty much what D.O. did

1:31:49

through his whole career. I mean, you

1:31:51

know, first Rainbow album, Man on the

1:31:54

Silver. over Mountain and some other classics

1:31:56

on there, but then the follow-up is

1:31:58

rising. A lot of power metal bands

1:32:01

point to that album is like the

1:32:03

template for that whole genre. And then

1:32:05

Heaven and Hell followed by mob rules,

1:32:08

which I happen to prefer mob rules.

1:32:10

I think it's slightly better, but I

1:32:12

mean they're both like. Outstand yeah, I

1:32:15

agree with you and then here he

1:32:17

did it again with his solo You

1:32:19

know solo album. Yeah And once I

1:32:21

think last the line is a little

1:32:24

bit better than holy diver just because

1:32:26

the band is jelled a little bit

1:32:28

better a little bit better You can't

1:32:31

go wrong with either one, but if

1:32:33

you have if you have to choose

1:32:35

and I've done a classic album clash

1:32:38

even with the two of them. Oh,

1:32:40

yeah, who was involved in that? Gosh,

1:32:42

I don't remember have to go back

1:32:45

and see that might have been the

1:32:47

fuzzy guys. I think we're in Italy

1:32:49

on Italy on tour And we did,

1:32:52

we did it in a hotel room

1:32:54

on a day off. There you go,

1:32:56

yeah. No, that's a good, that's a

1:32:59

great clash. I mean, that pretty much

1:33:01

toss-ups across the board, basically. Six and

1:33:03

one half dozen of another, for sure.

1:33:05

Absolutely, yeah. All right, well, if you

1:33:08

disagree with us, we are sorry. That's

1:33:10

just the fucking wait it is. Deal

1:33:12

with it. Rubber stamped it. Rock and

1:33:15

roll boner classic. Ladies and gentlemen, want

1:33:17

to thank Chris Jericho for joining us

1:33:19

again. It's been a blessing. It turned

1:33:22

up good. I wasn't expecting to make

1:33:24

the choice tonight, but I'm glad I

1:33:26

had a backup. I drew three shit

1:33:29

balls off the list. Once again, it

1:33:31

fit because we were talking about Mr.

1:33:33

Schnell last week and now Claude is,

1:33:36

uh... is part of the universe here

1:33:38

at the pot of thunder show. Yeah.

1:33:40

Dear Mr. Jericho, I was wondering when

1:33:42

Fazzy might be coming to Canada, signed

1:33:45

the stroup. We're actually looking at doing

1:33:47

some shows hopefully in the fall. So,

1:33:49

probably. Calgary, Winnipeg, Regina, Edmonton area. So

1:33:52

hopefully you live in that realm. Mr.

1:33:54

Street, that is your real name. Sounds

1:33:56

a bit fishy to me, but whatever.

1:33:59

Now we get from David, forget that

1:34:01

when you come into Sydney again. Wow,

1:34:03

nice, thanks, wow. Lots of, we always

1:34:06

like, we do really well in Australia

1:34:08

too, so I would say usually early

1:34:10

in the year, so maybe next year,

1:34:13

but maybe, I don't know yet, I

1:34:15

don't know. I will be in Brisbane

1:34:17

in February with AW though. So there

1:34:20

you go. There you go. And the

1:34:22

important thing is you will be in

1:34:24

Joylet on the Fazzy Tour 2025 and

1:34:26

we will be there as well. Yeah,

1:34:29

we're going all across the country and

1:34:31

we'll see you enjoy it and we'll

1:34:33

do another episode then. We'll do a

1:34:36

live one then. Yeah, it's the last

1:34:38

live one we did was the one

1:34:40

we talked about earlier where you fell

1:34:43

asleep during where Eagles dare and then

1:34:45

the whole world stopped after the last

1:34:47

live when we did. I think it

1:34:50

was. The last live when we did

1:34:52

was the one with the fucking stove

1:34:54

in the, uh... Oh, that's right. So

1:34:57

the picnic table, yeah. That's also where

1:34:59

we did one of the, uh, that

1:35:01

we did the double cross exciter episode

1:35:04

was live at the, enjoy the... And

1:35:06

we did the, the, what, was it,

1:35:08

a voice of America in that shit

1:35:10

hole, a hotel room somewhere out in

1:35:13

West suburb or something? Yeah, I don't

1:35:15

even remember what city that was. You

1:35:17

know what the, um... The double-cross exciter

1:35:20

was Belvedere, Illinois. Right, and somebody sat

1:35:22

on the town. Yep. That was when

1:35:24

you guys, your bus broke down. That's

1:35:27

right. Yeah, that was when you guys,

1:35:29

your bus broke down. And then someone

1:35:31

gave you a ride. Yeah, that was

1:35:34

the same day. Literally had to leave

1:35:36

it in a cornfield. That's hilarious. Yeah.

1:35:38

Buy a ticket early, Michael. One Mike

1:35:41

yeah, all right guys, five weeks out

1:35:43

of seven love it believe the the

1:35:45

fortune I've had yeah, we're blessed to

1:35:48

have you so many times recently and

1:35:50

to be on your show as well.

1:35:52

Hope to see you again soon. Yeah,

1:35:54

we'll be seeing them. Enjoyant. Yeah, absolutely.

1:35:57

Man, the Christmas episode on Talkers, Jericho,

1:35:59

the Christmas rock songs, was very good.

1:36:01

That's absolutely good the day. Yes. So

1:36:04

anybody listening, want to go back for

1:36:06

a little Christmas nostalgia? Go check that

1:36:08

out. And one last thing I'll say,

1:36:11

I read Gary Ho Ho Ho Ho.

1:36:13

Toured all Christmas season did like 40

1:36:15

gigs in November and December. So this

1:36:18

is like his Oh really to make

1:36:20

money during the Christmas season Yeah, it's

1:36:22

his thing now. We got to figure

1:36:25

out how to do that. I'd like

1:36:27

to go see him. Oh, I was

1:36:29

thinking we got to do a two-month

1:36:31

a year job Yeah, great. All right

1:36:34

man. Well, thank you for joining us.

1:36:36

We'll talk to you soon. Yeah, take

1:36:38

it easy buddy. I'm off to the

1:36:41

witch There you go all right everybody

1:36:43

thank you for joining us We'll get

1:36:45

back into those yards, oh questions next

1:36:48

week. So, uh, guess what February is

1:36:50

coming. Get primed for February. Yeah, it's

1:36:52

coming soon. Because it's already the, what,

1:36:55

1213, I can't do my math right

1:36:57

now, but there's come to the 13th,

1:36:59

right? Yeah. So, two more after this,

1:37:02

and we're... Do you guys have your

1:37:04

picks for February? I have no idea.

1:37:06

I've got mindset. I've got a mindset.

1:37:09

Well, I better start thinking. Getting that

1:37:11

mindset. Get horny. Get horny. Get horny.

1:37:13

Get horny. Get horny. That was a

1:37:15

number. That's a pleasant surprise. Drop that

1:37:18

in my liked list and every time

1:37:20

it comes on on random, it brings

1:37:22

a big smile on my face. Great

1:37:25

discovery. I would say my favorite discovery

1:37:27

on this show, musically. Yeah, maybe. I

1:37:29

don't even disagree with you, but it's

1:37:32

just outstanding. I remember I was standing

1:37:34

upstairs at home, getting the kids teeth

1:37:36

brushed before I came over here. That's

1:37:39

how, like soon before I came over

1:37:41

here when I saw it. Wait,

1:37:43

he had a song

1:37:46

called song Oh, yeah,

1:37:48

I don't even

1:37:50

need to hear it.

1:37:53

even doing and it

1:37:55