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thriller Drop. This movie is about
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a woman whose first date goes
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off the rails when she starts
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getting increasingly alarming airdrops from someone
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nearby. And this potentially romantic dinner
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turns into a life-or-death situation real
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quick. I'm Myisha Harris, and today
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we're talking about drop on Popqujur
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Happy Hour from NPR. Join me
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today is the co-host of Slates
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ICY and my podcast and former
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PCHH producer Candace Limb, welcome back,
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Candace. This is great, it's great
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to have you here. Oh, I'm
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so glad to see you, hello.
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Hello, hello. We also have one
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of our other producers here on
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Pop Culture Happy Hour, Liz Metzger,
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hello, Liz, welcome back. Hello, happy
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to be here, producer city, like
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Rokoo City. Such a fun movie
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to actually be talking to you
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both about. This is going to
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be a ride, just like the movie.
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So in drop, Megan Faye plays Violet,
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a single mom going on her first
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date with a guy she met online
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named Henry. He's played by Brendan Sclenar.
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Sorry I'm late. I'm late. I
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mean, it is fine. It's not
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a problem. Sorry, I got a
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drink because I was nervous. It
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clearly hasn't helped. The date seems
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to be going well until she accepts
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an airdrop request on her phone. Then
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the messages keep coming and they keep
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getting weirder and darker and ultimately more
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personal. They become impossible. to ignore and
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now she's beholden to the demands of
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the mysterious messenger. And that mysterious messenger
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could be anyone else in this restaurant
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at this moment, another patron, the piano
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player, maybe even Henry. And we should
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also mention the movie touches on domestic
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abuse. We'll get to that in a
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bit. Job is directed by Chris Furlanden
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who previously directed Happy Death Day and
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its sequel. It's in theaters now. Now
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I do also have to like preface
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this by saying that... At the top
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of the show, I called it air
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dropping because that's what we're all familiar
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with. Technically in the movie, they call
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it digit drop because I'm sure Apple
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doesn't want to be associated. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah, of course. Trademarks, whatever. But
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anyway, that's what it is. Liz, I'm
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going to start with you. What did
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you make of this? Very weird movie.
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You know, there's a lot of reasons
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I like drop. One, I was able
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to see it at South by Southwest,
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which was the premiere. So I'm already
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like caught up a little bit in
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the audience for a movie like this
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that helps. Am I also sitting next
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to Aisha Harris? Yes. Yes. We were
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there. These are things that help me
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like a movie. Yeah. And this is
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a great movie to watch with a
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big audience because it is a movie.
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You are sitting there going. Oh no,
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she didn't do that. No, the child
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and the child with the cute little
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colored glasses. I had such a fun
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time and I really do try not
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to get like too invested into like
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how everyone else is reacting. But it
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is a movie that is silly and
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fun and playing with like tropes of
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what it's like to be in a
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very contained thriller. You have the very
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quirky server. Jeffrey Self is so good
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as server on his first day. Server
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mat. Yes. Yes. You have the super
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super nice bartender who's going to ask
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you a ton of questions about your
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kid. There's just so many fun little
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characters in this. this very small world
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of the restaurant that we do go
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a little bit outside of that. Yeah.
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The thing is I like Megan Faye.
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Me too. I like Megan Faye. in
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everything she does. Yes. It is a
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fun movie. I actually have no complaints.
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Here I am, I'm having a great
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time. I will be the drop defender.
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You are. I was a trap defender.
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Oh. M. Knight's trap, had a great
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time. No notes. I am so glad
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you shouted out Jeffrey Self as the
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waiter because he was by far my
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favorite part of this movie. He's one
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of those actors who's like, I'm in
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this role, I'm going to make the
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most of this. I'm going to go
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big. I'm going to give huge expressive
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faces. He has great timing. Shout out
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to him. Candice. Did the message get
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into you? Did you accept were you
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dropped in? Were you dropped in? No,
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so here's the deal I was getting
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Megan vibes from this movie walking in
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and the thing is my most anticipated
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film of the year is the sequel
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to Megan And so to me I
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was like oh, this is gonna be
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like a horror. There's gonna be like
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thrilling elements. It's gonna really hit that
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zone and I do think this is
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not really a horror movie. It's more
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of a thriller maybe had higher expectations
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for this that were not met.
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For example, I think the movie
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this is most like is Carry-On
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on Netflix, which was my favorite
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movie of last year. It's the
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one where Jason Bateman basically, like,
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is telling Tierra and Edderton what
5:17
to do, because he's a TSA
5:20
agent, he's like, if you don't
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do this, then your girlfriend's gonna
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die, which is kind of similar
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premise here of like, someone is
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dropping a bunch of memes, and I'll
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give credit there. The meme usage, very
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good. But we got close. But we
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got really close. Exactly. And they really
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brought it in. They brought in Cambucha
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Girl. They brought in the distracted boyfriend
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meme. Like they were within their mammology
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bag. And despite all of that, I
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can't help but ask like, guys, how
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conceivable is this plot? Because I'm not
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going to lie. The second I get
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that first meme, I'm going airplane mode.
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But the thing is, you can't do
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that in this in this type of
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context because... Do you have this? We
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don't have sons? The thing I love
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between this and Kerryon is like, these
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are both movies that use very similar
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storytelling elements, which is they gamify the
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plot. They kind of lead you almost
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like a robot in a video game
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in a maze of like, you get
6:16
this instruction. Uh-oh, you meet the wrong
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choice. There's this A-B kind of binary
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here, and I like that. And even
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though I have to say Liz holding
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your hand while I say this, I
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did not love it as much as
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much as you. big and I will say
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even though I did love this in a
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theater this will go very hard on peacock
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so it's okay to wait. Hard on peacock
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assuming that you have at least one or
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two other people in the room with you and
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you can both go full in on just like
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what is happening? I would also say for
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those of you who are listening and who
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have not seen it yet you should absolutely
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not watch the trailer because it gives away
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so much one of the worst spoilary
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trailers I've seen in a long time.
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I lean more with you Candace, I
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did enjoy this movie. It was silly.
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It did give me trap fives. The
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grace. I don't think it went far
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enough as traps. Sure. It was nonsensical,
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but not as nonsensical as trap, and
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I needed it to be, it lived
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too much in the middle gray area
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of being like just. not absurd enough.
7:16
For me, I kept thinking about this
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movie that came out in 2012 called
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Compliance. It's a fascinating movie that stars
7:23
and out as the manager of a
7:25
small town fast food restaurant who receives
7:27
a call from someone who's impersonating a
7:29
law enforcement officer. This person claims that
7:32
they've received a complaint that one of
7:34
her employees has stolen money from a
7:36
customer. And so he starts getting her
7:38
to interrogate them and it leads into
7:41
this like... over the phone over the course of
7:43
the time she does these really horrific
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and unethical and possibly illegal things to
7:48
her employees because she thinks she's like
7:50
helping the company and this is actually
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like inspired by a series of real-life
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phone scams that happen this is kind
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of what this movie is like drop is
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about someone who like has something dangling
8:01
in front of her and is being
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told like you have to do this
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or else dot dot dot dot. Granted
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like there are real threats in this
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movie as we come to see yeah
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but the extreme lengths she winds up
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going to this to me felt like
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the brainwatt version of compliance where it's
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like we're not really interested in this
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idea of like compliance and what it
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means to like be beholden to something
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you don't know where it's coming from
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it's just like this Uber, fancy Chicago,
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sky-high restaurant with floor-to-ceiling windows. That's actually
8:31
a big part of the plot is
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like hurt, they're like sitting by the
8:35
window and like they might move, they
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might not, who knows? It's kind of
8:40
silly, but overall I think this is
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the type of movie that definitely benefits
8:44
from seeing with an audience. I don't
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know if it hits well otherwise. I
8:48
think one of the reasons that it
8:50
is not like... trap is because there
8:52
is like emotional weight. It's a feature.
8:55
I wouldn't say it deterred me from
8:57
this film, but there is like a
8:59
lot of emotional weight when you cast
9:01
Megan Fahey. Like she's not just gonna
9:03
be doing broad comedy. She is like
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gonna give you the most beautiful tears
9:07
you've ever seen. She's gonna look at
9:10
the camera and you're gonna look and
9:12
you're gonna be like, oh gosh, what
9:14
are we doing to her? Yeah. And
9:16
a lot of her story is very
9:18
much... like her backstory and what's happening
9:20
in the restaurant, they're all interconnected of
9:22
why she feels like she has to
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make these decisions and why she feels
9:27
like she has to do anything it
9:29
takes. Like it can never be a
9:31
true comedy, which is fine. But it
9:33
does mean you can't be like full
9:35
kooky kooky. There is quite a bit
9:37
of like emotional weight just in her
9:40
beautiful doe eyes, but also in the
9:42
premise of the film. Yeah. I found
9:44
it interesting that Megan Fayy's character did
9:46
not use the technology against the assailant
9:48
because this is one of those movies
9:50
that I think appeals to me, maybe
9:52
our generation, because it's so digitally savvy,
9:55
right? It's like the meme culture, the
9:57
language, the air dropping of it all,
9:59
even explaining that to... someone who is
10:01
not within like a certain time, like
10:03
age range is wild, but I thought
10:05
it was interesting how kind of in
10:07
the third act. Obviously Megan Fahey, she
10:10
was damsel in distress, she's being told
10:12
by this anonymous digital villain to like
10:14
do all these things. And instead of
10:16
using that digital like toolkit against the
10:19
assailant, which I feel like is something
10:21
carry-on kind of did, she goes full
10:23
action mode. And I was kind of
10:25
like, okay, first off, I didn't know
10:28
you had that within you Pilates Queen.
10:30
It kind of made me wonder, am
10:32
I a little over this trope of
10:34
like... women with these really heavy back
10:37
stories in movies like this where the
10:39
premise is like goofy and wild but
10:41
the thing is they kind of used
10:43
things like the fact that she was
10:45
a survivor of domestic abuse that's a
10:48
huge part of her backstory the fact
10:50
that this is her first date in
10:52
so long and she's so worried about
10:54
like leaving her son alone I think
10:57
using that but then also trying to
10:59
like basically say look at her she
11:01
has to sacrifice her desire as a
11:03
woman for her protective instinct as a
11:06
mother I was kind of like ah
11:08
like could we go one more could
11:10
we go one more? Yeah. I think
11:12
that was kind of what kept me
11:14
back was that domestic abuse backstory because
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it didn't seem necessary to me. It's
11:19
like your child alone feels like enough
11:21
that you would be concerned. Like I
11:23
don't understand like why you also had
11:26
to have this very traumatic backstory. It
11:28
felt a little like an attempt to
11:30
make this meteor than it. needed to
11:32
be. And that's, I think, where you're
11:35
saying, Liz, like, when you have that,
11:37
it's hard to go full trap. Like,
11:39
you can't go full trap, you know.
11:41
And in-trap, also, you know, the pop
11:44
star in that uses the technology against
11:46
him. That was missing. I don't know.
11:48
I just needed a little more, a
11:50
little more cooke and a little less
11:52
tragic backstory. Yeah. I completely agree. I
11:55
think the thing is. There is a
11:57
wanting to show that this experience is
11:59
very much touching of the idea of
12:01
like you are trapped in a relationship.
12:04
In this, it's a digital relationship with
12:06
this area. dropper that she is like
12:08
I want to protect my child again
12:10
I say it's a future it's not
12:13
a bug yeah I understand that that's
12:15
what they're trying to do it it
12:17
does add more heft do I need
12:19
more heft in a movie like this
12:22
no yeah but I am fine to
12:24
have it what you guys think of
12:26
like the lighting in this film because
12:28
they did something kind of interesting where
12:30
they were using spotlights and it felt
12:33
very theory and they were doing like
12:35
digital projections of the text which I
12:37
did like I love but then they
12:39
were also putting the security camera footage
12:42
on the walls of the bathroom and
12:44
I was like okay there's something a
12:46
little bit like a black box theater
12:48
about this very small very contained that
12:51
I did enjoy small cast look I
12:53
loved the look of this film and
12:55
again that restaurant design was like it
12:57
looks expensive this set basically and built
13:00
a fully functioning restaurant. It did seem
13:02
to play as though we were in
13:04
a play in a way. It's like,
13:06
oh, people are actually ordering and whatever.
13:08
And I will say the music also
13:11
is very like signaling cues like very
13:13
dramatic anytime like. Yeah, very sonic. The
13:15
whole thing feels like you're watching a
13:17
trailer sometimes where it's like, you know,
13:20
like the trailer kind of emphasizes everything.
13:22
I mean, the thing is like, I
13:24
love the premise of this movie and
13:26
I love the way that we got
13:29
into the premise of this movie and
13:31
I love the way that we got
13:33
into the premise pretty immediately. The drop
13:35
started happening quite up front in act
13:38
one. It's a well-paced movie. Well-paced movie,
13:40
yes, in and out. If there's any
13:42
value that. I think maybe this is
13:44
kind of the direction that some of
13:46
these smaller films that get made by
13:49
bigger studios can go of like, hey,
13:51
this premise, maybe wild, the film might
13:53
be flimsy, but if you have a
13:55
good Megan Fahey, we can do something
13:58
today. This is like to me a
14:00
solid B minus C plus movie that
14:02
like is absolutely enjoyable with friends. We
14:04
need those. We need them. The cinema
14:07
needs to be. build and support movies
14:09
that are economical to a certain extent
14:11
that are they're not wasting my time
14:13
they look good. We do need those
14:16
we do. I mean Megan Fahey to
14:18
me big star but not as like
14:20
a huge heavy hitter in everyone's household
14:22
like I like seeing movies that are
14:24
just not just the same a-listers I
14:27
see in everything. I don't know I
14:29
guess look Candace and I are not
14:31
as fully drop-pilled as Liz, but I
14:33
think we all agree that we need
14:36
more movies like this. It's a good
14:38
time. I'm glad drop exists. I'm glad
14:40
drop exists. I'm glad drop exists. Obviously,
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of this week and every week what's
16:34
making us happy. Candice. Hit us. So
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my happy this week is the new
16:38
album from Two Hollis. Two Hollis, I
16:40
would say, makes Tenitis Core music. And
16:42
what I mean by that is that
16:44
background, he used to be an alt
16:47
musician, started doing EDM, and Two Hollis'
16:49
whole stories that he got Ableton when
16:51
he was really young, started using Reddit
16:53
and like YouTube to figure out how
16:55
to use it and make music. So
16:57
I guess this is kind of like
16:59
the next evolution of bedroom pop.
17:01
bedroom EDM, but he has
17:04
his new album out. It's
17:06
called Star. He worked on
17:08
it with Jonah Abraham, who
17:10
produced some of Playboy Cardi's
17:12
music. So I guess if
17:14
you're looking for something to
17:16
kind of tide you over
17:18
post-brat. pre-summer. This album is
17:20
very Lindsay Lohan, each love
17:22
vibe, but for people who
17:25
still have to clock into
17:27
their job on Monday. And
17:29
for me, the standout song
17:31
that I'm loving right now
17:34
is Nice off the album.
17:36
Let's hear a little bit
17:39
of it. Oh my god,
17:41
Candace, I am at a
17:43
Las Vegas pool party right now.
17:46
This is the vibe. And I have
17:48
to say, I'm kind of into
17:50
it. And so that's what's making
17:52
me happy. The song, nice off
17:54
the new two, Hallis album. This
17:56
is my drop. This is my
17:58
drop. Thank you. Liz, what is
18:01
making you happy? Okay, what has
18:03
taken over my life is I
18:05
have got into a classic game.
18:07
This is like if I was
18:09
saying I got into checkers or
18:11
if I got into Yatsi, I've
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started to play majong with my
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we like message back as emogies
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or like reactions. love a trick-taking
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I really love little tiles that
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look like little custards. So this
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is such a fun game to
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play with your friends. So all
18:48
we would need is one more
18:50
person, and we could all play.
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If you have three friends who
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want to play until morning and
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tonight, I really think we should
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card gamer, and I have still
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not yet played Majong ever. So...
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Next Ruchri. You'll see me with
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the tiles. Click, click, click, click,
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hold you to that means, please,
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please. All right. I don't live
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in New York anymore. Don't get
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me wrong, I love living on
19:32
the West Coast, but because I
19:34
don't live in New York anymore,
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with really, really great photo shoots
19:51
by Mark Seliger. You've got, Barbara
19:53
Streisen, talking about her role in
19:55
Funny Girl. Shields discussing his role
19:57
as the whiz in the original
19:59
production. Joel Gray talking about Cabaret,
20:01
Liza talking about Liza with Z.
20:03
And you get these like... Great
20:05
little tidbits like Babs revealing she
20:07
reuses her tea bags because she
20:09
remembers what it's like to be
20:11
poor. They're not all just happy
20:13
stories. A lot of them have
20:15
complicated feelings about those performances. Exactly.
20:18
Yes. So yeah, I highly recommend
20:20
checking this out if you were
20:22
at all with theater lover, a
20:24
lover of live performance. The photos
20:26
are great, the interviews are fun,
20:28
and that is New York magazines,
20:30
yesteryear issue, the... official headline is
20:32
like, good God, it was fun,
20:34
which is just a quote. But
20:36
go find that. Highly worth it.
20:38
It made me smile. It made
20:40
me very happy. And this Sunday
20:42
in our podcast feed, we'll have
20:45
another monthly mailbox bonus episode for
20:47
our pop culture Happy Hour Plus
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supporters. Glenn and I will be
20:51
talking all about a topic that
20:53
is very near and dear to
20:55
my heart because i have a
20:57
lot of thoughts he had a
20:59
lot of thoughts about movie theater
21:01
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sign up for pop culture happy
21:07
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and we'll also have a link
21:11
to that in our episode description
21:14
that brings us to the end
21:16
of our show Kansas limb Liz
21:18
Metzger thanks so much for dropping
21:20
in and talks about drop anytime
21:22
this was so produced by Haps
21:24
of Fathema and Liz Metzger, Liz,
21:26
hey, and edited by Mike Katzen.
21:28
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21:30
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