0:03

What's up, guys, Welcome back to Post

0:05

friend High. I am so excited

0:08

for you guys to watch or listen

0:10

to today's interview with Jackie Ton.

0:13

Jackie is one of the stars of Netflix's

0:16

Nobody Wants This. Season two is

0:18

coming out in February, so I was super

0:20

excited to be able to sit down with Jackie, learn

0:22

all about her, hear about the filming of

0:24

the show, and I really think

0:26

you guys are going to enjoy this episode. A

0:29

few months ago, when the show Nobody

0:31

Wants This first came out, I

0:33

watched it in one sitting, binged

0:35

the entire show in one night. And I

0:37

think it's because I relate so much

0:40

to the characters in the show. For those of

0:42

you who don't know, my fiancee, Jeremy

0:44

is Jewish and I'm Catholic, and

0:47

Jeremy's family is just full of

0:49

so many characters. I'm

0:52

really really close with Jeremy's grandma,

0:54

Grandma Bee, and Grandma

0:56

Bee is just such a stereotypical

0:58

Jewish grandma, if you know, you know.

1:01

And so when I was watching Nobody Wants

1:03

This, I just felt

1:05

like I was almost watching my own life

1:07

on screen, Like I connected so much

1:10

to the characters in the show, so to

1:12

be able to a few months later sit

1:15

down with Jackie, it really

1:17

is just a dream. Anyways, I

1:19

don't want to ramble, so I just want to

1:21

say thank you so much. It's absolutely

1:23

incredible that we have gone from running

1:26

on the streets of New York with a tripod in hand,

1:28

asking strangers to run with me in exchange for a pair

1:30

of sneakers, to now being able to

1:32

sit down with our guests after

1:34

our runs and just go even deeper. Your

1:37

support really does mean the world to me.

1:39

So make sure you follow this podcast,

1:42

subscribe to my YouTube channel, and

1:44

without further ado, let's get this. Let's

1:46

us Jackie

1:54

what welcome to post run High.

1:56

Thank you very much. I asked Jeremy

1:58

as we were coming in from the run. I

2:00

was like, is, so this is what exercising feels like.

2:02

Like my heart's pounding and I'm like in a really

2:04

good mood. I feel like a little bit geeked. And

2:07

then it's literally, that's what a post

2:09

run high actually is. I was explaining

2:12

your show to him exactly.

2:14

So Jackie and I, for reference, for those of you listening,

2:17

we just did a running interview you're coming from my running

2:19

interview show. Welcome Jackie, and

2:21

I just ran a mile and I think

2:23

it was your first time running in a minute. We

2:25

love encouraging.

2:26

It was only a mile.

2:28

We've probably fell it a mile maybe a little under.

2:30

Oh that's so disappointing. I was so

2:32

proud of myself, Like I thought we were like bolting

2:35

for ages. We were, and we were like lightly

2:38

jogging for a brief time. You

2:40

were saying, Okay, I was proud of

2:42

myself. I did good.

2:43

Wait, is it true that your parents were PE teachers.

2:45

Both of my parents were fully

2:48

PE teachers, incredible athletes. Both

2:50

my mom was an amazing they're both around,

2:52

but they don't aren't PE teachers anymore. So

2:54

when I say was my mom used

2:57

to be like an incredible field hockey player,

3:00

ball, played everything. And my dad, who

3:02

was a gymnastics coach in Brooklyn

3:04

and he trained my brother and my like

3:07

he was there my brother's coach for

3:09

everything, soccer, baseball, I

3:11

want to say basketball. I mean it's insane, that's amazing.

3:13

And I can't kick, throw

3:16

catch.

3:17

So you grew up with two pe parents that were physical

3:19

education teachers and you it was.

3:21

Just like had tap shoes on from the day

3:23

I was born, right, I just was jazz

3:25

handing from birth, and

3:27

everyone else was an athlete.

3:29

Did you ever to play sports like soccer as

3:31

a little kid?

3:31

I played soccer, and

3:34

I think I only remember the story

3:36

as opposed to remembering does

3:38

he experience. But my

3:41

mom used to do my hair either half

3:43

up or two half ups, so I used

3:45

quarter ups. Yeah, and so in

3:47

my soccer picture I'm in I think my team

3:49

was stride right. That was a shoe store and ocean

3:51

side Long Island, and there's a picture of

3:53

me in a yellow shirt holding a soccer ball with like

3:56

one leg up and the fake stands in the background

3:58

with my quarter ups. And apparently

4:01

that was the only time I ever played soccer. And while all the kids

4:03

were running around, I had undiagnosed

4:05

adhd yeh obviously, and

4:08

I picked all the grass.

4:10

I was literally just gonna say, you were picking grass, baby.

4:12

I picked a handful and then I would throw it in the sky

4:14

and then I would count it while all the kids ran by me.

4:17

Okay, but what I got out of that story also was

4:19

that you were one of the little girls growing up that always

4:21

had a specific hair style. I love

4:23

that always I never had that. They are always the girls

4:25

that had like the little pigtails, and they.

4:27

Were kind of no, no, no, no, that wasn't me. Okay,

4:29

deeply, deeply not me. My hair was always parted

4:31

in the middle and straight down, always and forever.

4:34

I'm so independent and fiercely self

4:36

sufficient because my mom

4:38

is that way, right, Like I wore a tuxedo to my

4:40

bot mitzvah wait. I love that we like went to Ocean

4:42

Side Talks. We rented it for the whole.

4:44

Thing that is iconic, and you had a Hollywood theme to butt

4:46

Mitz. But I saw that in a podcast.

4:47

I'll have to show you the pictures of of the butt Mitz

4:49

tucks. I just got a couple of My mom just texted me.

4:51

Okay, so you didn't love sports growing up, but you

4:54

were a child actor. You started acting when you were nine, so

4:56

I'm sure that took over your life in a way that sports

4:58

would have.

4:59

I started acting when I was nine, but even before

5:01

that, I can't think of a time

5:04

when I didn't want to do this,

5:07

right. It's really wild when I really think about

5:09

it, Like when I was getting on the train walking

5:11

to Harold Square, and I'm just being like, what

5:14

the fuck you made it?

5:16

It's not even nah, I mean it is. It

5:18

is actually exactly that, And I guess I maybe

5:21

part of my like insecurity is

5:23

even like admitting that to myself.

5:25

You've been in the industry for so long, since you were nine

5:28

years old, and to now have a show you've

5:30

been in so many shows, you've been acting your whole life,

5:32

and to now have this one show that's the

5:34

top show on Netflix for anybody listening, we're

5:36

talking about Nobody Wants This for reference that

5:39

Jackie just started. When I tell you this is

5:41

the most full circle moment for me, because I was

5:43

telling Jackie before we started recording. But I binged

5:45

the show in one night, and I also worked with Netflix

5:48

to do a lot of promotion for the show. I

5:50

was obsessed with your character. You were so iconic

5:52

in it. It makes so much sense that you were casted

5:55

for the role. So I'm so excited to get into everything

5:57

about Nobody Wants This. But it's amazing

5:59

that you are part of a show that's such

6:01

a phenomenon.

6:02

Thanks dude. That's you know, it's sort

6:04

of exactly how I feel like I'm just

6:06

like you know, you make a lot of things and

6:08

you hope anyone sees any of them,

6:11

and then you do a thing and then a lot of people see

6:13

it and it just feels good. It's just like, oh, this is definitely

6:15

different.

6:16

Right, But let's back up and like talk about the growth

6:18

as an actress, because what you kind of just explained

6:21

is so common for so many actresses.

6:23

It's definitely the most common

6:25

scenario, undoubtedly, right, Like, I

6:27

mean, if you're lucky, you get a couple guest stars

6:30

a year. In twenty twenty one, after Glow

6:32

got canceled, I lost my health insurance. Then

6:34

we had COVID for three years, and then we had the strike

6:36

and we are coming out of like

6:39

the darkest time in decades

6:41

to be in this business. I mean there

6:43

were no opportunities and if that, yeah,

6:46

we couldn't do anything and nobody wants This was

6:48

even on hold because

6:51

of the strike. I mean everything was on hold, right

6:53

well yeah, a lot of yeah, and a lot of things

6:55

died during the strike and then didn't come back after.

6:57

Did you film anything that never came

6:59

out? No?

7:00

No, no, no, I mean that

7:02

happened with Glow because with my show

7:05

before nobody wants this. We got picked

7:07

up for a season four, so people are always like, oh, bummed

7:09

you didn't make season four. I'm like, oh no, we

7:11

wanted to let me, Oh no, we start. We were two

7:13

episodes in. We got shut down because

7:15

of COVID, and we were supposed to come back

7:18

and supposed to come back, and then we just never

7:20

did.

7:20

So what was your life like during that time? Was

7:23

it like, did you feel like it was very uncertain or

7:25

were you kind of in like a comfortable spot both.

7:28

I was in an unbelievably lucky

7:31

place because I had

7:33

just hosted a

7:35

Netflix cooking show called Best Leftovers Ever,

7:38

which also died during COVID because the

7:40

last thing anybody wanted to do was think about how

7:42

to like repurpose food from

7:44

that was all just like everything needs to

7:46

be sanitized and fresh and clean, and we

7:48

were purelling our groceries

7:50

and x y Z. I had a really, really

7:53

unbelievably like probably

7:55

the best career year of my life in twenty

7:57

nineteen, which was Glow

7:59

and my cooking show and

8:02

my cartoon Dora and Me, which is an animated

8:04

preschool musical series on Amazon. But

8:08

then COVID and listen, it's

8:10

undoubtedly worse to have never gotten those

8:13

things than to have gotten them and then

8:15

literally lost them all because of COVID, but

8:19

also sucked. And so it's

8:21

like, I always feel weird talking about how much it sucked

8:23

to lose those things, because I obviously, as an actor

8:25

who had so little opportunity

8:27

and so little for so long, I

8:30

understand that that is objectively worse. But I

8:32

was lucky because I wasn't I wasn't

8:34

financially screwed. I mean, I wasn't

8:36

rolling in the dough. But I was like, I'd be okay,

8:39

where a lot of people I knew were like literally not going

8:41

to be okay. And there were no jobs to get in

8:44

the business or out of the business. You could barely leave

8:46

your house. So I was lucky in that

8:48

regard. And as far as your question of like, what

8:50

was my life like during that time, I

8:53

was, like the rest of us, more concerned about

8:55

getting COVID than I was about getting an acting

8:57

job because there was no vaccine. You were hearing these terrible,

9:00

these horror stories, and so

9:02

I was just pretty much staying inside and

9:05

felt lucky to have worked the year prior.

9:06

What did you do to keep busy, Like, are you a writer

9:09

at all?

9:09

Do you like it? Am my writing partner Rachel

9:11

and I we uh,

9:14

we wrote a feature and a musical

9:16

feature, but which we're

9:19

going to try and take out.

9:28

I love that you have this musical theater side of you

9:30

too, write like you love singing. And I know you auditioned

9:32

for American Idol, but you were

9:34

on American Idol. Yeah, but I want you to back

9:36

it up and tell us, like, what was the first

9:39

show that you were on when you were nine?

9:40

When I was nine, I was doing like I

9:43

was auditioning. Can you imagine? I wish

9:45

I saw a video of me at nine on an audition.

9:48

I remember when I was younger,

9:50

people would say to my mom, like I'd be on audition.

9:52

They'd be like, oh, she's always on huh. We

9:54

didn't know that I was, you know, I mean, we assumed,

9:57

but that was like before they were diagnosing girls with ADHD

9:59

and so I it just was like, I am an

10:01

absolute internal combustion engine. This is just sort

10:04

of what it is. And when I go to sleep,

10:06

I go to go to sleep.

10:08

Do you feel like that energy level has helped you with acting?

10:10

I mean, I have so much energy. I was like,

10:12

I need to do stuff. So I was like touring

10:15

and I was like a musical comedian and I was on the road

10:17

for it. And so I think the energy definitely helps with things like

10:19

that where I'm just like planning

10:21

a tour and going on and doing every single

10:24

thing myself, going to these college

10:26

conferences and trying to get booked and then flying

10:28

to Carney, Nebraska and flying to South

10:30

Dakota. And it definitely helps

10:32

in those regards.

10:33

But it's so interesting how much you've done, So

10:36

can you give us like kind of a career path and like how

10:38

you got to where you are today.

10:39

Yeah. So when I was a kid, I

10:43

was very lucky because my mom had

10:45

a close friend named Aggie Gould, who ran

10:48

a company out of Baldwin, Long Island called Fresh

10:50

Faces Agency. She represented

10:52

me, and I always

10:55

wanted to be a TV star. Always cannot

10:57

remember a time where I wasn't like in

10:59

the back doing impressions of commercials

11:02

like it's just for this forever. And

11:04

my mom is deeply sickly funny,

11:07

like she was beyond.

11:10

My dad's really funny too, but he's very musically

11:12

gifted. He writes, songs and sings

11:14

and plays piano and he taught me how to play guitar. Yeah,

11:16

he's unbelievable. And so I came from

11:19

a very artistic family, but nobody was

11:21

pursuing it. And then when I wanted

11:23

to be an actor, my mom

11:26

quit her job, and I

11:28

mean she, I think she was already substitute

11:30

teaching because she was raising me and two brothers, and my

11:32

dad was working full time. He's also a postal

11:34

historian, so he was insane,

11:37

so he was like doing these trade shows on the

11:39

weekend and working five days a week, working thirty

11:41

something weekends a year. And so my mom

11:43

was raising me and my brothers and substitute

11:45

teaching at that point. And so then I think she stopped

11:48

doing that to take me on auditions.

11:52

And when I think I got my first

11:54

gig on The Nanny when I was like twelve, and

11:56

then they were really few and far between. I

11:58

did a bunch of stuff for Nickelodeon. I had like

12:00

a development deal at nick They were trying to make

12:02

me like a kid's show. I tested

12:05

for all that, you know, four or five seasons

12:07

in a row, and then they made me my own

12:09

show called and now This, which was a spin

12:11

off of all that, All That and now This, and

12:13

then we only did a couple episodes and

12:16

then I probably was

12:18

fifteen at that point. And then

12:20

when I was then I went to university to Delaware.

12:22

You were setting like to be an elementary school teacher,

12:24

right or something like that.

12:25

Listen, Yes, the University of Delaware

12:27

is the reason I moved to LA because

12:30

we had such a long break. There was

12:32

a mini mester between December

12:34

and February, so

12:36

all my friends in BacT school in January, and

12:39

since we had such a long break, my agent was

12:41

like, go to LA. It's pilot

12:44

season. It's like the young adult

12:46

year of the you know, Dawson's

12:48

Creek had just come out, and she was like, go to LA. Let's

12:50

try it out. You have like practically six seven

12:53

weeks to be out there. So don't

12:55

think we went out for quite that long. But we went out for a

12:57

while, me my mom and my agent.

12:59

And then I was getting so many

13:01

meetings and so many things. And then this

13:04

guy, Danny Jacobson signed me to

13:06

a development deal and he was gonna write me a show.

13:08

He show ran Roseanne and Modern I'm not I'm

13:10

mad about you, and I was like, well, I

13:12

guess I'm robbing out of school. And then I

13:14

was still on the fence. And I went to the TV Guide

13:17

Awards with my friend Ben Salisbury, who had been on The

13:19

Nanny with Many many years ago, and

13:21

I met one of my favorite actresses

13:24

who yes, I had posters of on my wall,

13:26

Jessica biel Oh my god. We became

13:28

good friends at the TV Guide

13:30

Awards. We literally met and were like what

13:34

very similar vibes, deep voices, very

13:36

like tomboy energy. She drove like a

13:38

super fucking old like Bronco,

13:42

just like she's such a badass. We

13:44

met, we were like, okay, game recognized game. Not that

13:46

I'm nearly as cool as her, but you get the point all

13:49

of this. I was like, I gotta go back

13:51

to college and she was like, huh,

13:54

how old was she? Like was she she was seventeen? I

13:56

was eighteen.

13:57

Wow.

13:57

And she was like just moving with me, like the guys are.

14:00

So young, literally, Jessica bielle children.

14:02

Maybe she was like she was like,

14:04

move in with me and my parents in Calabasas. I was like, I don't

14:06

have a car. She was like, use my car. And

14:09

now because I wasn't moving into

14:11

nowhere. My parents were like,

14:13

okay. Her mom called my mom. Her

14:15

mom, Kim is like still close to me to this day, and

14:18

she called my mom, was like, hey, I'm Jesse's mom, and

14:21

my parents came out. They met Jesse's parents,

14:23

and my parents were like, okay, I mean, if you're going to be moving here

14:25

and living with a family in a gated community,

14:28

I mean best case scenario. And of course

14:30

I couldn't stay there forever, and so then I

14:32

moved out. Then a girl named

14:34

Brie, Brie Blair, who's still

14:36

one of my closest friends to this day, who was Stacey

14:38

in the original BABYSITTERSS Club movie. She

14:41

tested for a pilot I did when I was fifteen.

14:44

Brie and I stayed friends, and then she

14:46

dropped out of college, and then after I

14:48

moved out of Jesse's, I moved in

14:50

with Brie.

14:51

Okay, and then the rest is history.

14:53

And the rest is history, and I never left LA except

14:55

to do a play in New York for a couple of years.

14:57

That's amazing, And your career just kind

14:59

of took off from there.

15:00

Kind of you to say, no, my career took off

15:02

very few years ago. My

15:04

career took off at glow. I was I was

15:07

like between organizing

15:09

jobs and touring and making

15:12

a couple hundred bucks to play a gig here and.

15:14

There for Depth Cloud.

15:23

What is it like auditioning and then like facing

15:25

rejection.

15:26

I mean my closet was provided

15:28

by Kristen's hand me downs. Truly.

15:32

Yeah, it was cool. You know, I was

15:35

really lucky because I

15:38

always had like something I

15:40

was by no means on like hit shows

15:43

and working all the time

15:45

and killing it as an actor and an enter.

15:47

But I was like getting a commercial

15:49

here and there and touring

15:52

if I needed to, And so

15:54

I was like staving off having to get a nine

15:56

to five or do you

15:59

know a lot of the jobs that I took were by

16:01

no means glamorous, but they were at

16:03

least, and I feel grateful for this, they

16:05

were at least in the direction

16:08

or career I wanted them to be. And like when I talk

16:10

about my college touring, it was rough.

16:13

Like I was in motels right,

16:16

and like sometimes I had to change the motel

16:18

because it was like genuinely concerning and I would

16:20

call the front, like I had this one time I called the

16:22

front desk because I was like the

16:24

guy the people staying next to me are banging on the

16:26

wall and like screaming things through the wall, and

16:28

she was like, those guys are really drunk and I saw them

16:30

come in. If you'd like, I can escort

16:32

you back to your car, and I don't think it's a bad idea

16:35

for you to And the woman at the front desk helped

16:38

me find somewhere else to stay and

16:40

like escorted me out of it. That was like I was

16:43

young and I had a guitar on my back and

16:45

I was in these random small towns

16:47

across the country, which so many of are beautiful,

16:49

but they were like shady situations

16:52

all the time. This wasn't the erastour mom. This

16:54

was like me alone in

16:56

a Yaris rental car

16:59

that the guitar had to be like out the window of

17:01

it was like wild.

17:02

I have so much respect for it because it's so amazing

17:04

and it's such a testament and it's so amazing for

17:06

people to hear that want to get into acting, and it's

17:08

such a testament of you keep pushing

17:11

for something that you want and eventually

17:13

it will come into fruition as long as you believe in

17:15

yourself, you know, and then it's like the perfect part

17:18

comes along. Nobody wants this.

17:20

I feel so lucky.

17:21

When did you first audition? And I know you're really

17:23

good friends with Kristin Bell, right, you guys have been friends for twenty

17:25

years, which is amazing. So I have so many questions

17:27

about kind of the relationship in the show that you

17:29

guys got to play.

17:30

When I think of my dog Glenn and

17:32

I think of Kristin and my boyfriend

17:34

Joe, the same thing happens to my face.

17:37

It turns into like you get.

17:38

Like excited, Yeah, yeah.

17:40

Wow, I love those I love those ones.

17:43

Like it's like I almost feel like yeah,

17:45

like they're my like they're my babies.

17:47

How excited was Kristin when she found out that

17:50

you were auditioning for the role.

17:51

I think she was pumped, But I think I don't know.

17:54

I mean never, I never asked her. I mean, I think it's

17:56

very rare in anyone's career for

17:58

them to try out for something that they're so dead

18:01

right for, Like it doesn't

18:03

happen.

18:04

A lot like Mell's so right for it.

18:05

But Melrose that I played on Glow, they

18:08

were not looking for me. They were looking for like a Paris Hilton

18:10

type, like she was the party girl and she was

18:12

this interesting. But then I came in and

18:14

I was reading for Ruth originally, which was Ali Breeze

18:17

Roll, and I was like, coming back for it, coming back

18:19

for it. I think that they loved Ali for Ruth

18:21

because she's brilliant

18:24

and perfect for it. They wanted to put me somewhere,

18:26

and I was. I tried out for Shila the Wolf, and

18:28

I tried out for the cheerleader, and they were like, what is

18:31

And then what I brought to the Melrose character

18:33

was completely different

18:36

than what they had in mind. And so it's not like

18:38

I walked up to that audition and I was like,

18:40

Bam, let's go. But when

18:43

I read esther, I

18:46

was like, oh my god. I mean,

18:48

if you think about it, the odds

18:50

does an actor that you're ever like just dead right for

18:52

something. It doesn't come along that often right, especially

18:54

if you're kind of particular like me. And

18:57

then also your good friend

18:59

is working on that show. It's really

19:01

a marriage of things that is like

19:05

so divine it is

19:07

that it's really hard to wrap even my own brain.

19:10

No, it literally gives me chills peak roll

19:12

was so meant for you. And I know you grew up in a Jewish

19:14

household, so I'm curious, like how

19:17

much influence were you able to draw from your

19:19

up?

19:20

I mean all it was funny because for the bot Mitzvahcine,

19:23

I wore this black dress and I called my mom and I

19:25

was like, Jewish women don't wear

19:27

black to about misfits. She was like, well, Orthodox probably

19:30

don't because we wear black for Shiva and for

19:32

funerals. But she

19:34

was like for a reform, and then she like checked with some people

19:36

and she was like, no, a black dress is okay for reform.

19:38

So sweet.

19:39

So you were calling your mom being like is this

19:41

is yes?

19:42

Right? Like are you a too resultant? Because the dress we liked

19:44

best and Noigar our costumer, who's

19:46

incredible, We all love this black dress

19:48

best. But I was like, let me just call my mom and make sure that like black

19:51

is okay. I mean for most people it is, but

19:53

for like mother of the butt mytz, I

19:55

was just double checking.

19:56

Absolutely. Oh my god, the butt Mitzvacine was so cute.

19:59

Thank you, But the girl that played your daughter

20:01

and you guys cutting the dress, oh,

20:03

I was just like, genuinely so obsessed with your character,

20:06

and I'm curious because you and Kristin are

20:08

such good friends. I think the funniest part about it

20:10

was obviously you have so much love for Kristin,

20:12

and I feel like that underlying theme throughout the show is

20:14

like you actually kind of like her in the show esther.

20:17

Ends up, I mean falling for Joanne

20:19

the way everybody does. She's funny, she's huge, charming.

20:22

But what was it like playing a character that

20:24

had to all of a sudden act like they didn't

20:26

like your best friend? Like, was that funny for you?

20:28

It was funny, But it's also like acting

20:31

is so it's so fun and silly,

20:33

and obviously it could be challenging at

20:36

times, but like playing

20:38

like you don't it's not you know what I mean, I'm

20:40

not Anthony Hopkins. It's like it's fine,

20:42

I just pretended I didn't, you know what I mean.

20:44

It's like it was it was really fun

20:47

and afterwards we would always laugh, and

20:49

I think I was trying to with

20:51

most of the other characters anyway, insert

20:55

a little bit of levity, like because I obviously

20:57

didn't, I don't want her to have the same relationship

21:01

with every person on the show, and just you know, she's

21:03

scarcely loyal and she loves her husband and her

21:05

daughter. She's not so thrilled

21:07

about this new kitten.

21:08

I feel like I really connected to the show because

21:10

Jeremy's family and his grandma they are

21:12

like, they're very religious Jews, and

21:15

I grew up Catholic, Roman Catholic. I went to

21:17

Catholic grammar school, Catholic high school. But

21:19

it's funny because I like called Jeremy's grandma

21:21

and I'm like, so would you consider me a

21:23

shitzva? And like keep in mind, Oh my god, you

21:25

guys, what do

21:27

you say?

21:28

I love you so much, not even close

21:30

shiksa? But what's so

21:32

cute? Wait, god, it's so cute. Everyone at homest

21:34

I know this. So when we were on our run,

21:38

Kate was like, which one of us do you think is Jewish?

21:40

H huh?

21:42

And I was like, not you. Yeah,

21:44

it's just really cute because like, no,

21:47

right, you're too, I mean, not you.

21:49

And I just loved it because I don't know what it

21:51

is about about like my like

21:54

Judaism radar, but like it's pretty

21:57

I don't know if I've been I don't

21:59

think if I've been wrong. I mean, maybe maybe,

22:02

but today I wasn't. Yeah, I wonder

22:04

what it is.

22:05

I don't know.

22:05

I recently did a play reading with Jason Alexander

22:08

in la and you want to talk on bench

22:10

what just an absolutely delightful human

22:12

being. But what was really interesting is

22:14

like I was a little hesitant to say it, but once I said

22:16

it, I was relieved. I was like, do you not

22:19

feel like we're related? And he was like, I feel

22:21

like we're related. It was immediate. The

22:23

second we met, it was like you you hi, Hello

22:26

up. The second we walked in, He's like, well, part of Long Island

22:28

you from, and I'm like, ocean side you. He's

22:30

like, well, no I'm not, but my wife is from myself. And I was

22:32

like, again, I can't really explain

22:34

it. To be honest, I wish I could.

22:37

Yeah, but I just think it's like it's a cultural connection.

22:39

I think it's anybody of the

22:41

same culture, you know. I remember

22:43

in high school I had friends who were Greek

22:45

Orthodox and we went to another town

22:48

and there was like one of my good friends. Funny enough, on

22:51

two of my good best girlfriends were dating Nicos

22:54

and they're from different towns, and when the two nicos

22:56

met, it was like they were from the

22:58

same family.

23:00

It's just me.

23:00

You just get it, and I think, you know with Jews,

23:02

we have that same thing.

23:04

So nobody wants this. Do

23:06

we know yet if there's gonna be a season two?

23:08

Yes, we do. We found out two weeks after we

23:10

aired. I had no We've known there's gonna be a season

23:12

two for like a month.

23:13

Okay, so nobody wants a season two. Have you guys started

23:15

filming? When do you start filming?

23:17

We start filming, I heard, but I don't

23:19

know, so hopefully I'm saying

23:21

this right, but I heard February. But also

23:23

like, I don't know.

23:24

And how much time do you need to prepare for the role?

23:26

None? Really, I mean whenever

23:28

we get the script, so you know, like a few days prior.

23:31

You just memorize each scene as

23:34

you're gonna film it, so and

23:36

you don't film and you film the episodes in order,

23:38

but you don't film the scenes in order, so you'll just see

23:40

what's seen you're filming next, and you'll memorize that,

23:42

hopefully a couple of days prior. But you get really

23:44

familiar with each script beforehand, depending

23:47

on how long before you shoot

23:49

you get them, but generally that's not very long.

23:51

When you're acting out the scene. How much of it

23:54

is memorization from the script

23:56

as it is also like are you doing any improv.

23:58

So it depends. So

24:01

like I did an episode of I was in the season premiere

24:03

of NCIS, I played a divorce

24:06

attorney, and it was like a very intell

24:08

like zero, like you need to memorize exactly

24:10

word for word what is on that page. You

24:13

do not deviate, you do not make it your own. No,

24:15

baby, you show up, you do the job, you go

24:17

home. On Glow, the

24:20

writing was so unbelievable

24:23

and similar to nobody wants this. But a lot

24:25

of times on Glow people thought I improvised,

24:28

Like in this episode where Ruth shows

24:30

up and she's wearing cute little rebox and I

24:32

forgot my exercise shoes

24:35

because I'm out from being out all night,

24:37

and I see her rebox and she's like, oh,

24:40

I have these other shoes. They're like these brown nursing

24:42

shoes. She's like, for my other job, waitressing.

24:44

And I look at them and I'm like, where did you waitress a

24:46

nursing home? In Poland, and everybody

24:49

texted me like, oh that's so you. Oh

24:51

my god, I love that you made that up. Yeah

24:53

I didn't.

24:54

Wow.

24:54

Those were our writers. They heard me,

24:57

and they heard how I deliver

25:00

information and how I deliver jokes, and

25:02

then catered the writing to that.

25:05

So then I looked better, The

25:07

show looked better. Everything,

25:10

all the puzzle pieces fit together better

25:12

because everybody instead of like working

25:14

again. Obviously wouldn't be any service

25:16

to anyone to work against your strengths, but they

25:19

took who we all were. And

25:21

then there were some things in Glow that you

25:23

said, but it was mostly all written now on nobody

25:25

wants this again,

25:28

almost exclusively written. But there

25:30

are bits and pieces like we were in this panel yesterday

25:32

and I found this because I wasn't in that scene. But

25:35

like where Tim

25:38

who plays Sasha, says that

25:40

when he looks at old pictures of Mandy Bittank and he gets

25:42

a half sandwich. Apparently he completely

25:44

improvised that, and then Kristen popped in

25:46

like, oh yeah there was a woman there was Oh, I've

25:49

been to this corner a woman got hit on a bike, Like he's

25:51

such an idiot. Yeah, so he's improvising

25:53

a lot and saying a bunch of different stuff, and when

25:55

he and Iron scenes together, all bets are off.

25:57

So we definitely do everything that's on the page. But

26:00

then if there's a little moment where we additionally

26:02

want to, like he says, what are you doing

26:05

when he comes in the room, we like improvise that.

26:07

So the scene started just after, but

26:09

they were like, oh, Tim, you know what, let's have you enter. So

26:12

he comes in, He's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, pairing

26:14

your gargantuan socks? What does it look like? So

26:16

we're just making things up and talking to each

26:18

other in character, and

26:20

then the scene starts. We do the whole scene,

26:23

and then he leaves and he's like, so these shorts do

26:26

nothing for you. I'm like, it's the mesh. Like

26:28

everything we're saying as he's exiting is

26:30

improvised as well. Interesting scene,

26:32

but it's just like we didn't

26:34

know when we were doing those things. Is the scene

26:37

going to start where the page starts or is it going to start

26:39

with our little moment?

26:40

Right?

26:40

And then subsequently

26:43

is it going to end where the page ends or is it gonna

26:45

end after our little So yeah, they were

26:47

very open to our

26:50

to having us play and make the character

26:52

as our own. But also

26:54

the show is so well written, so we obviously said

26:56

everything that was on the page in addition to adding our

26:58

own little.

27:00

So season two, you guys are going to start filming

27:02

soon? Anything else coming up that you're excited

27:04

about?

27:05

I mean, it's so soon. It's already November. We're starting

27:07

in February. So it's like I'm hoping to have

27:10

it's been a crazy The show came out September twenty

27:12

sixth. It's November.

27:13

I can't believe it was so recent, Like I

27:15

can't.

27:16

Believe it was so recent or so long

27:18

ago. In this weird way where

27:20

like somehow it's still in the top ten,

27:23

and with Netflix, because everything comes out at one

27:25

time.

27:25

Thank god, I was able to binge one stop

27:28

the best five hours of your life.

27:30

But like it's because it all comes out at

27:32

once. It's hard with

27:34

a show that comes out and is

27:37

only ten episodes, right to keep the

27:39

excitement going because everyone saw

27:41

it already in September, And so we're

27:43

in this really cool and exciting and rare

27:47

place where it's November

27:49

and we're still able to talk about it. Which makes

27:51

me happy.

27:52

That's for sure, Absolutely all right.

27:54

I like to end my episodes with

27:56

a special kick. With a special kick, okay, And

27:58

one final question, which is a

28:01

manifestation. I want you

28:03

to let us know what are we manifesting

28:05

for twenty twenty five? Let

28:07

me hear it.

28:08

Health for my family, health

28:10

for me and my boyfriend Joe, love

28:12

for me and my boyfriend Joe, health,

28:15

and twenty eight more years of life for my

28:17

baby son, Glenn, so Glenn will

28:19

live till twenty sixty

28:23

five. And

28:26

that nobody wants this season two is so fun

28:29

and delicious to make, and that

28:31

some cool other things I don't

28:33

know, maybe that Nanny Broadway show happens.

28:36

And someone says, does Jackie want to

28:38

read for this? And I say yes,

28:41

missus Chamfium, Oh.

28:44

My gosh, well, I am absolutely rooting for you in

28:46

every single thing you do.

28:47

Thanks, I'm rooting for you, the cutest, brightest,

28:49

angelest person.

28:50

Thank you.

28:51

Thought you were going to trick me thinking you were Jewish.

28:54

Thank you so friend,