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It is John Pollack joining me
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spring breakthrough edition of the
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of WrestleMania Saturday. And Sunday night. But
2:01
we are not going to waste
2:03
any time. We are getting into
2:05
spring breakthrough from the MGM Music
2:08
Hall at Fenway in Boston, Massachusetts.
2:10
The WrestleTix number was 3 ,181,
2:12
which Tony Schiavone on the broadcast
2:14
did call it a sellout. And
2:16
this place looked packed, Kate. I
2:18
mean, it did not look like
2:20
there was any room in this.
2:22
What did you think about this
2:25
venue? It was one that I'm
2:27
sure there's never been wrestling at
2:29
this venue. continues
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the pattern. AEW has been looking at a
2:33
lot of music halls and venues of this
2:35
size. Anyone
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who listens to Collision Chorus regularly knows that
2:39
I've been a huge fan of this
2:41
transition to smaller venues that are just packed
2:44
really tight. I like this. It looked
2:46
like there were people pretty much swinging from
2:48
the rafters to fit in. I would
2:50
say that it actually came as a contrast
2:52
to the show on Saturday, which is
2:54
one of the only times I haven't liked
2:56
the venue that they were in because
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the one on Saturday, There were
3:00
these wide staircases everywhere, so it looked
3:02
kind of empty just because there weren't
3:05
seats. Here, it was like just everything
3:07
was crowded in. It looked like a
3:09
fire marshal's nightmare, but I am assuming
3:11
that they know what they're doing. They
3:13
would not have, in fact, they
3:16
would not have
3:18
allowed more people in
3:20
than were allowed
3:22
by law. Well,
3:24
at the top, we get the
3:26
announcement that Hook will not be
3:28
in the main event. The Deathriders
3:30
have taken Hook out, and Joe
3:32
and Shibata... are going to go
3:35
it alone for the trios belts,
3:37
which kind of made no sense
3:39
on its face, but they would
3:41
have backup ready. And this was
3:43
their explanation for Taz not being
3:45
at the desk for the night.
3:47
So we had Excalibur and Tony
3:49
Schiavone. And so we had heard
3:51
last week that during the main
3:53
event that Hook had apparently vomited
3:55
during the match. Oh, it was
3:57
visible. Yeah, I totally missed
3:59
it. So did not even see
4:01
it. But my thought, Kate, the
4:03
fact that we got no visual
4:05
or any angle even shot with
4:07
Hook is I'm just guessing he
4:09
was not cleared for tonight. Yeah,
4:12
my guess was that they didn't say
4:14
anything because they wanted to bring him
4:16
in and see if he was cleared.
4:18
I'm guessing because he threw up in
4:20
the ring that he might have taken
4:22
a shot to the head. That could
4:24
be concussion related. They brought him in.
4:27
Had the doctors check him. He was not cleared. So it's
4:29
like, okay, we got to do something. Yeah. It's
4:31
kind of weird that this is
4:33
the second time in a few weeks
4:35
that they've done a Death Riders
4:38
attacked people with no camera evidence whatsoever.
4:40
And they've been taken out for
4:42
an indefinite period of time. But yeah,
4:44
and it made sense that Taz
4:46
wasn't there as a result. But yeah,
4:48
hope that Hook is okay. Well,
4:51
we are starting things off with Mercedes
4:53
Monet against Athena in the semifinals of
4:55
the Owen Hart Cup. And this crowd
4:57
is going nuts for the beginning of
4:59
this match. There's a holy shit chant
5:01
as soon as the bell rings. And
5:03
this crowd did not come down for
5:05
the duration of this match. And they
5:07
have this intense collar and elbow tie
5:09
up that they hold on going to
5:11
the ramp and all the way up
5:14
to the entrance. They
5:16
continue on, and we see Athena.
5:18
At one point, she is hung upside
5:20
down from the bottom rope with
5:22
her feet hanging on, and Monet misses
5:24
the double knees going to the
5:26
floor. So Athena then pulls herself up
5:29
and turns into this almost like
5:31
an O -face to the floor, hitting
5:33
the stunner, and we go through the
5:35
break. Crowds are chanting back and
5:37
forth of CEO, fallen goddess. We had
5:39
a series of tombstone reversals. Both
5:41
were struggling on some of these reversals,
5:43
but it ends with a gut
5:45
buster from Mercedes. And then in the
5:48
ring, Mercedes hits a tornado DDT.
5:50
And I guess she didn't feel it
5:52
was smooth enough because she followed
5:54
up with like this perfect looking one
5:56
after it. And it's Athena who.
5:58
Regains the advantage, hits these power
6:00
bombs in succession. And then Athena
6:02
starts stomping her. And we see
6:05
this spot that I don't think
6:07
I've ever seen this before. Athena.
6:09
That is laying on the middle
6:11
rope while Mercedes runs across the
6:13
edge and gets power slammed onto
6:15
the edge of the apron. This
6:17
looks really cool. And then we
6:19
have Athena applying the statement maker.
6:21
It's reversed by Bonet and then
6:23
Athena getting out after a cover.
6:25
Both end up on top of
6:27
the barricade, slapping one another. And
6:29
then after a shotgun blast dropkick,
6:31
the O -Face gets caught by
6:33
Mercedes in the ring and turns
6:35
it into an O 'Connor. role and
6:37
while the announcers called no attention
6:39
to it it did look like
6:41
she was holding the tights but
6:43
they the announcers made no kind
6:45
of like they didn't make that
6:47
any kind of plot point here
6:49
this one goes 21 minutes and
6:51
12 seconds and you know there
6:53
was like the odd hiccup but
6:55
I thought this was just a
6:57
tremendous opener that they had it
6:59
was a great atmosphere and I
7:01
was like Looking at this card,
7:03
Kate, this card looked incredible on
7:06
paper. And the only caveat was,
7:08
man, are any of these matches
7:10
going to get rushed? And I
7:12
think we got two 21 -minute
7:14
matches on this show. They certainly
7:16
did not waste any time. And
7:18
this certainly got more time than
7:20
I thought it was going to. Yeah,
7:23
I think that people had a sense
7:25
of occasion that this was the first
7:27
time they were meeting. Not in AEW.
7:29
This is the first match they've had.
7:31
And you definitely got this vibe
7:34
that these are two women
7:36
who have been thinking for a
7:38
long time about moves and
7:40
sequences that they want to try
7:42
together. Because there was some
7:44
really inventive stuff going on here.
7:46
And yeah, some of it
7:48
looked a little wild. I don't
7:50
think that detracted from it for
7:53
me. There are times when if
7:55
a match looks messy, that yeah,
7:57
it does really bring it down.
7:59
But I find when the overall
8:01
caliber of the match is this
8:03
good, a little bit of roughness
8:05
means a little bit of reality.
8:07
These shouldn't be super smooth all
8:09
the time. So I didn't mind
8:11
that in this case because I
8:14
just thought that overall the match
8:16
was so strong. I
8:18
think that Mercedes grabbing
8:20
the tights does leave open
8:22
the door for a
8:24
rematch between the two of
8:27
them. Thinking it all
8:29
in, but that's just speculation.
8:32
This was a challenge, too,
8:34
because they had to live
8:36
up to the hype of
8:38
this being their first matchup.
8:40
So you want that to
8:42
feel really important. You want
8:44
it to meet the anticipation. but
8:47
you also want to
8:49
leave just enough on the
8:51
table that there's more
8:53
to do in future matches
8:55
than it will be. So,
8:59
yeah, it was a tremendous match.
9:01
On most shows, this would probably be
9:03
your match of the show, but
9:05
they would have a lot to contend
9:07
with later on in this show.
9:09
Afterward... So the winner of this will
9:11
face the winner of Jamie Hayter
9:13
and Chris Statlander, who they announced for
9:15
next Wednesday show in New Orleans.
9:17
And then we had Tony Storm just
9:19
appearing in the crowd at the
9:21
end, applauding Mercedes. Renee is
9:23
in the back with Hangman Page
9:25
and the Young Bucks appear along
9:27
with Okada. And Nick Jackson did
9:29
a first here. He worked the
9:31
prayer our father into his promo
9:33
here. And they explained that they
9:35
can fix Hangman's issue with the
9:38
Deathriders. And get
9:40
them onto their side. And you can go
9:42
on. You can win the Owen. You can win
9:44
the title. And they can help
9:46
him out. And Hangman is just kind of,
9:48
he has no response to any of this.
9:50
And then Okada asks why he's so angry
9:52
all the time. He needs to smile more.
9:54
And when Hangman walks off, he calls him
9:56
a bitch. And this upset Hangman. Tuka
9:59
Rask was shown from the
10:01
Boston Bruins. And we got the
10:03
Stanley Cup appearing on Dynamite.
10:05
Another first. Hangman Page is
10:07
out and the wild card. It
10:09
is Canadian -owned Josh Alexander, one of
10:11
our last exports to the U .S.
10:13
here. I don't know if he got
10:15
like a 10%. Did he cost
10:17
some more money? Yeah, he might. I
10:19
hope he got maybe a bump
10:21
here. But he is out. What did
10:23
you think about the choice for
10:25
the wild card pick? I
10:28
think he was the most popular choice.
10:30
There were a lot of
10:32
other names kind of circling.
10:34
The challenge was always going
10:36
to be... debuting someone and
10:39
then probably having them take
10:41
a loss right off. So
10:43
the finesse was in handling
10:45
that. Jobs
10:47
Alexander is super impressive in
10:49
ring. I'm a little nervous
10:51
that he hasn't impressed me
10:53
with his character work or
10:55
mic skills necessarily because my
10:57
god AEW has a lot
10:59
of people who are very
11:02
good professional wrestlers. For
11:04
him to stand out and to
11:07
kind of make himself distinct from
11:09
other people. So
11:11
we had a really good match between
11:13
these two. They ended up getting 13
11:15
minutes. And we have Alexander taking over
11:17
during the break. And after a German,
11:19
Page lands on his feet, hits a
11:21
rolling lariat. The Orihara moonsault connects to
11:23
the floor by Page and then hits
11:25
a liger bomb in the ring. Alexander
11:27
then spins him off the shoulders and
11:29
applies the ankle lock. Page gets out
11:31
of that with an enziguri and into
11:34
a tombstone for a near fall. Sets
11:36
up for the buckshot, but Josh rolls
11:38
out to the edge and catches Page
11:40
and drops him onto the edge of
11:42
the apron and does his running cross
11:44
body from behind, sending Page off. And
11:46
then another ankle lock is attempted. This
11:48
time, Page kicks him off, and as
11:50
Alexander bounces off the ropes, he's caught
11:52
in a small package by Hangman, and
11:54
Hangman gets the win. 13 .03, setting
11:56
up. Hangman and Kyle Fletcher in the
11:59
semifinals. What did you think about Josh
12:01
Alexander's AEW debut? And we will get
12:03
to the post -match, which I thought was
12:05
maybe even more important than the match,
12:07
that they had an idea for this
12:09
guy beyond just coming in and having
12:11
a good match. Well, this
12:13
was a very good match. I
12:15
thought, again, had some very creative sponsors.
12:18
That one where, I guess, Alexander
12:20
was on the barricade. Hangman just comes
12:22
at like... of does a lariat
12:24
basically off the ramp, which was a
12:26
very cool looking spot, very well
12:28
shot to. AEW's not always great with
12:31
the camera angles. I thought that
12:33
their camera work was pretty good tonight.
12:35
But as far as Alexander's debut
12:37
is concerned, I thought very well handled.
12:39
There were a number of spots.
12:41
where he was made to look smart.
12:44
And that can feed into a
12:46
character for him, being experienced and technically
12:48
proficient, but also just a very
12:50
clever wrestler. The other thing, of course,
12:52
is that he lost, but did
12:54
he lose really? It was a fluke
12:56
that he got pinned. So he
12:59
does not look weak coming out of
13:01
this at all, even more so
13:03
when you talk about the post -match. Our
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So Fletcher and Callis come
13:36
out and Fletcher and Hangman start
13:38
fighting on the ramp. And
13:40
there's this big lariat by page.
13:42
And you see Don Callis
13:44
whispering something into Josh's ear. And
13:47
he comes in and he
13:49
attacks Hangman from behind as Kyle
13:51
powders out of the ring
13:53
and power bombs Hangman and leaves
13:55
him there for Kyle to
13:57
hit him with a brain buster.
14:00
I really like this. Number one, it's
14:02
like you're playing off natural history here
14:04
with Callis and Josh Alexander. You've done
14:06
the teases of new members coming in
14:08
with the injuries that have hit the
14:10
Callis family. But more importantly, we have
14:12
a lot of guys that show up
14:14
and he could have just had a
14:16
great match and that was it. But
14:18
instead, it feels like he's got an
14:20
angle here. He has a reason to
14:22
have a rematch with Hangman. Him
14:25
being paired with Kyle Fletcher is like
14:27
that's... a near top guy to be
14:29
positioned with. So I really liked this
14:31
introduction because it felt by the end
14:33
of it, that we have more than
14:35
just an introduction for Josh plan. We
14:37
actually have like an angle laid out
14:39
as well. Exactly. I thought overall, that's
14:41
a good debut. Yeah. I
14:43
thought well handled. I,
14:45
I suspect like, I feel
14:47
like callous in that whole
14:49
group has felt. more
14:52
important over the last few months. So
14:54
this is a good time to, to bring
14:56
someone in. Like they immediately feel like
14:58
part of the top heel stapler, one of,
15:00
one of the top heel staples, a
15:02
lot of staples in this company. There's a
15:04
lot to keep track of, uh, including
15:06
the patriarchy who we go to backstage. And
15:08
Nick Wayne is with Kip Sabian and
15:10
mother Wayne. And he talks about Christian cage
15:12
being at home. Um, but then he
15:14
turns 90 degrees and realizes Christian is right
15:16
there. And he confronts Nick Wayne. He
15:18
says, Cage, you wouldn't have
15:20
been able to live with yourself if
15:22
Cope became champion before you did. That's the
15:24
reason you executed your contract at Revolution. Cage
15:27
says he likes the side of Nick
15:29
Wayne. And I let you have this time
15:31
over the past month. And I got
15:33
you booked in the best of the Super
15:35
Juniors tournament. So look at that. Maybe
15:37
Ghetto is going to be calling Christian. He
15:39
needs a replacement now for Bushi. Can
15:41
you get someone else booked too? And he
15:43
says that... He's going to keep him
15:45
busy and prepare him for this best of
15:47
the super juniors. And he'll face commander
15:49
tomorrow night for the ROH television title. And
15:51
he gives him a slap and tells
15:53
him not to let his father down. So,
15:55
uh, Christian has returned. And, um, I,
15:58
I think this will, uh, I
16:00
think all of this is eventually going to lead to,
16:02
uh, to Christian and cope. And now he is back
16:04
on TV. I think this will be the slow road
16:06
to all in that. That is my thought, Kate. Yeah.
16:08
My, my guess. I think we
16:11
all know where the patriarchy is
16:13
heading. It's just, how they're going
16:15
to get there. And yeah, having
16:17
Nick Siddur and the others kind
16:19
of turn on Christian, thus
16:21
effecting a babyface turn
16:23
for Christian is most
16:25
likely. They
16:27
recapped what I thought was a
16:29
great angle with FTR on the
16:31
weekend. First with Tony Schiavone and
16:33
then taking out Daniel Garcia. I
16:35
mean, Tony Schiavone was great in
16:38
this angle on Saturday. And even
16:40
Nigel, too. It's like even Nigel
16:42
begrudgingly is like, I can't let
16:44
them kill this guy. And Schiavone
16:46
explains that FTR had been suspended
16:48
for one week and fined one
16:50
week's pay. If
16:52
I'm Shivani, that's kind of a piss
16:54
off. It's like these guys were literally going
16:56
to beat me to death in the
16:58
ring. And the punishment is they get suspended.
17:00
They get a week's vacation. Yes,
17:02
unpaid. But really? It
17:05
didn't happen in a locker room.
17:07
It was one week. One week.
17:09
That's all they have to deal
17:12
with. The Hurt Syndicate against
17:14
the Gates of Agony was next for
17:16
the tag titles. And the Gates of
17:18
Agony, they got out to a very
17:20
aggressive start. I
17:22
don't know, maybe, Kate, if you feel the
17:24
same way, but it does feel to me
17:27
that, like, the Hurt Syndicate, it does feel
17:29
like the most... The
17:31
complaint that has been so prevalent has been
17:33
these guys like they're super cool, but they
17:35
just are killing these people so much. And
17:37
it feels like there is a more concerted
17:39
effort now that, yes, they're going to win
17:41
this match, but they're going to sell a
17:43
lot now during these matches. And you've got
17:45
MVP on commentary to put over the challengers
17:47
as well. So it's not so much of
17:49
a just one sided nature because they got
17:52
they gave quite a lot of offense to
17:54
con in this match. It was the most
17:56
selling I've seen Bobby Lashley do since he
17:58
has gotten to AEW. Lashley
18:02
First off, he's taking the clotheslines from
18:04
Toa while he's in and then goes
18:06
for the hurt lock. Khan breaks it
18:08
up. But then Benjamin super kicks Khan,
18:10
hits the Germans. And after Toa lands
18:12
on the floor, Toa lands on the
18:14
floor and he doesn't see the oncoming
18:16
traffic that is Bobby Lashley, who spears
18:18
him from the side. And this is
18:20
like that scene in Final Destination where
18:23
a guy just gets hit by the
18:25
bus out of nowhere. So there's a
18:27
step up knee by Benjamin and a
18:29
spear by Lashley to pin Khan in
18:31
nine minutes. And 13 seconds. I would
18:33
say I thought this one like overperformed
18:35
against my expectations that I didn't have
18:37
too many high hopes for this beyond
18:39
just like a hurt syndicate squash. And
18:41
this was more than that. And I
18:43
felt the gates of agony. They looked
18:46
fine in this match. Yeah, I
18:48
thought that they look good. The only problem they
18:50
seem to be running into was with Toliona.
18:52
He slipped a couple of times. And I think
18:54
he needs to talk to Mike Bailey's like. foot
18:57
person because he needs to make sure
18:59
that if he's going to continue doing the
19:01
barefoot wrestling that he can get a
19:03
good stable base. Because the first time it
19:05
happened, I'm like, oh, did he do
19:07
that on purpose? And then it happened like
19:10
– a couple of times more. He
19:12
tagged in at one point and he like
19:14
tripped over the bottom rope. So, I
19:16
mean, maybe Mike Baila can go a little
19:18
light instead of a hundred grand on
19:20
sneakers and maybe, you know, spare a little
19:22
bit for... A little foot chalk or
19:25
something for Toa. But yeah, I thought that
19:27
they're a team who's done pretty well.
19:29
Like if you follow ROH, which I know
19:31
not many people do, they've been a
19:33
force there for a while. I think that,
19:35
yeah, they made a good sort of
19:37
compromise because... It seemed kind of obvious that
19:40
we were heading towards murder machines versus
19:42
the Hart Syndicate, which would have been a
19:44
much more serious opponent. These guys
19:46
are sort of a good, they're
19:48
not going to be like a
19:50
pay -per -view caliber match. But yeah,
19:52
they gave a decent television match,
19:54
and I'm happy to have them
19:56
get a bit more time. Did
19:58
you see any of the photos
20:00
Brian Cage opted to share from
20:03
his recent surgery? Missed
20:05
those. No, you
20:07
didn't. Avoid
20:10
his Instagram unless you literally want to
20:12
see the insides of his knee. I
20:14
was not ready for that visual at
20:16
like 7 and 30 in the morning.
20:20
MJF is out after the match.
20:23
He rags on Boston saying, you're
20:25
all too white. And he compliments
20:27
Benjamin, but then takes a shot
20:29
at Lashley being a slow learner. But
20:31
he's got something for the Hurt Syndicate
20:34
to try and convince them to allow
20:36
him into the group. And he brings
20:38
out this group of women that he
20:40
has hired for the evening, I guess,
20:42
for the Hurt Syndicate. All they have
20:44
to do is give him three thumbs
20:46
up. And MVP is still a yes.
20:49
Shelton is contemplating this. He
20:51
is more in the middle
20:53
now. But to put it
20:55
over the top, he wants
20:57
MJF's watch. MJF
21:00
says, well, if you give me
21:02
a thumbs up, I will give
21:04
you my watch. And Shelton teases
21:06
putting the thumbs up, but the
21:08
thumbs go down. And MJF, he
21:10
is not an election denier. He
21:12
respects democracy. So that's a baby
21:14
face in my books. And says
21:16
to Shelton, I think I'm growing
21:18
on you. Still gives him the
21:20
watch. Still gives him the women.
21:22
And said, when I joined the
21:24
Hurt Syndicate. There is more where
21:26
this came from. And Lashley is
21:29
still the main voice of dissent
21:31
towards this group. But yeah, we
21:33
got like an angle, Kate, where
21:35
I guess some – I don't
21:37
want to assume that these women
21:39
were playing prostitutes, but you were
21:41
led down that path. Well, I
21:43
think if you are offering women
21:45
to your friends as a gift,
21:47
it's just – they're prostitutes. It's
21:49
just a question of what the
21:51
price is and how you're paying.
21:55
I did. I'm not sure. I
21:59
just gonna say, maybe they're tour guides.
22:01
Maybe they're going on the sites of Boston.
22:03
Maybe, maybe, maybe we're just assuming the
22:05
worst. One
22:08
of them, I will say, I
22:10
don't know what she's doing in her
22:12
time with AEW, but the tall
22:14
redhead in the ring was the independent
22:16
wrestler, Notorious Mimi, who has been
22:18
on, she'd done AEW Dark back when
22:20
that was a thing. She'd been
22:22
on ROH. She got a. tryout from
22:25
WWE that ended up not going
22:27
anywhere. But she's actually – I'm hoping
22:29
this means she'll be on ROH
22:31
so that she gets onto television as
22:33
a wrestler. Yeah.
22:38
I'm not going to say
22:40
that there was anything hugely
22:42
objectionable in this one, but
22:44
it's like, really? I
22:47
don't know. This kind of
22:49
– yeah. Left me
22:51
cold. Well, they
22:54
would be backstage and they did leave
22:56
to do whatever MJF has hired them
22:58
for for the rest of the night.
23:00
So maybe that would be a digital
23:02
exclusive that AEW will put out for
23:04
us. Maybe it's all a ruse. Maybe
23:06
they were just going for like –
23:08
I don't know what you would do.
23:11
I've never been into the late night
23:13
affairs in Boston, so I can't even
23:15
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post -wrestling. There were
23:42
highlights of Ospreay's matches with Takeshita
23:44
last year, both the Revolution and
23:46
WrestleDream match. And then it is
23:48
into Ospreay and Takeshita in the
23:50
Owen Hart Cup. Don Callis is
23:53
on commentary. We
23:55
are starting things off, and they're going
23:57
at a relatively slow pace, and
23:59
I'm realizing, yeah, we're getting the full
24:01
-on match. They're going long here. This
24:03
is not going to be a
24:05
sprint. And you see Takeshita working on
24:08
the lower back, and after some
24:10
Exploders, Will pops up. They even are
24:12
calling, like, oh, he's moving his
24:14
fingers. Maybe he's got nerve damage from
24:16
the suplexes. And we start to
24:18
pick things up. There is an avalanche
24:20
raging fire that is attempted by
24:22
Takeshita and is countered into a stun
24:25
dog. And Osprey follows that with
24:27
an os cutter. Onto the ramp. And
24:29
all of a sudden, this crowd
24:31
realized, we are skipping gears number two
24:33
and three. Someone
24:35
hit the accelerator. Okay, they're
24:37
just going. And for the next,
24:39
like, I don't know, 17 minutes,
24:41
they were just going at a
24:43
crazy pace here. Osprey hits the
24:46
Sky Twister. Osprey gets
24:48
caught with a... thunder bomb but
24:50
manages to turn it into a head
24:52
scissors and then hits the os
24:54
cutter and that's just our first of
24:56
several really big near falls and
24:58
i never felt they overdid the near
25:01
falls it was like every near
25:03
fall caught like they just grew and
25:05
grew and this crowd they just
25:07
went nuts um there's these hook kicks
25:09
from osprey then to catch the
25:11
collapses so the hidden blade cannot be
25:13
hit and osk The Auscutter is
25:16
stopped in midair with a forearm. Takeshita
25:18
goes for the cover. Will kicks out
25:20
at one. Then he hits the hidden
25:22
blade. One count from both. I will
25:25
say this. There are some people who
25:27
are critics of the one count kickout.
25:29
I will say I love the one
25:31
count kickout. Okay. There are virtually no
25:33
times. I don't enjoy the one count
25:35
kickout and to do it twice here.
25:37
I thought this was terrific. And yeah,
25:39
this crowd was just like, suddenly they're
25:41
like, we're watching every bit of these
25:44
two. If they were on a pay
25:46
-per -view, like they are going full out
25:48
for us tonight is what you had
25:50
from this crowd. Yeah, I
25:52
think that you had a very hot crowd
25:54
anyway, and this was just a way
25:56
of – obviously, they planned it out in
25:58
advance, but this was a way of
26:00
paying back that interest. It's like, let's go
26:02
out and just give you, without a
26:04
doubt, a pay -per -view quality match right here.
26:06
It's not even the main event, but
26:08
we're going to have some fun with it.
26:10
I'm with you. I actually like the
26:13
kick out at one. It can be overdone,
26:15
but – I do always like the
26:17
symmetry of having one guy do it and
26:19
then immediately the other guy do it
26:21
because it's like a sort of proving of
26:23
the metal. Like, yeah, we are on
26:25
equal footing. We need to figure out a
26:27
way to beat each other or at
26:29
least not to lose. When put at the
26:31
right spot in a match, it's a
26:33
tremendous tool. So then – swapping moves. Ospreay
26:35
does his bastard driver into a wheelbarrow
26:37
German. So Tekesh does up and he hits
26:39
the hidden blade. But Will rolls away. They
26:42
end up getting to their feet at the
26:44
count of nine. Ospreay slips while
26:46
trying to climb. And the announcers are
26:48
just, oh, it could be the numbness in
26:50
his arm potentially. So, I mean, they
26:52
just like worked it in here. Knowing
26:55
Will, this could have even been. you
26:58
know, a planned idea, but regardless
27:00
it worked. And if it wasn't, I
27:02
thought he, he worked with it
27:04
really well. It's like, you just, you
27:06
just work with what happens and
27:08
play off of it. So Osprey. gets
27:11
clotheslined off the top turnbuckle, but
27:13
flips over, landing on his feet, connects
27:15
with the hidden blade. Takeshita kicks
27:17
out. There's like a tsunami in response
27:19
to this from the crowd. Takeshita
27:22
stops him with another knee strike.
27:24
Raging Fire gets countered with a
27:26
Rana into a Styles clash. Another
27:28
big kick out. And then he
27:30
goes for the hidden blade. He's
27:32
caught in the backslide. Takeshita gets
27:34
up, lands the knee, but Ospreay
27:37
counters. flipping over and into the
27:39
Stormbreaker for the win in 21
27:41
minutes and 43 seconds. Recency bias
27:43
aside, I would put this in
27:45
the absolute top tier that not
27:47
just Dynamite has had on its
27:50
programming. I really believe that this
27:52
is like one of the better
27:54
matches, I think, in AEW's history.
27:56
This is how great this was.
27:58
And for the confines of television,
28:00
this was just an unbelievable match.
28:03
This was every bit. of a
28:05
big pay -per -view match at the
28:07
highest level of AEW. It
28:09
was better than the match they
28:11
had on the pay -per -view. And that's
28:13
fine. You want the rivalry to
28:15
escalate. But yeah, this was just remarkable.
28:18
And again, as
28:21
with Mercedes and Athena,
28:24
if you told me this
28:26
match was... 14 minutes long,
28:28
I would have believed you because it
28:30
just seemed to go by so fast. Again,
28:32
I was so caught up in it. I
28:35
did not know. I did not have
28:37
any doubt who was winning this. I
28:39
knew it was pretty much a given
28:41
that Osprey was going to go through.
28:44
But the fact that they still
28:46
made it so exciting, I'm
28:48
always impressed when wrestlers can get
28:50
me that invested in a
28:52
match when I'm pretty damn certain
28:54
of the outcome and correct
28:56
me if i'm wrong you're watching
28:58
on on tsn so are
29:00
you getting like picture in picture
29:02
during this yes um it's
29:04
it's occasionally it gets screwed up
29:06
luckily tonight everything uh everything
29:09
sort of um uh everything sort
29:11
of lined up and i
29:13
did actually get to see the
29:15
picture in picture Yeah,
29:18
because I'm watching it on Triller,
29:20
so I'm just watching it uninterrupted, so
29:22
it really was no difference for
29:24
me. But that's also something you have
29:26
to work around as well. You
29:28
do have these commercials in it, and
29:30
it didn't seem like it affected
29:33
the momentum or flow of the match
29:35
for you at all, even having
29:37
that interruption. This is not just arguably
29:39
the best TV match of the
29:41
year. This is... This
29:44
was just an all -timer. I was
29:46
so high on this match at the
29:48
end of this, and you got this
29:50
on a free television episode. It was
29:52
just outstanding. Yeah, this
29:54
was – if you were trying to
29:56
make the case to give – AEW
29:59
another 289 episodes or whatever
30:01
it is, this match was
30:03
a very good way to
30:05
make your argument. I
30:07
have to say that looking at
30:09
what was happening in Picture in Picture,
30:11
this is one of those weeks
30:14
where I was a little annoyed that
30:16
I didn't watch the fight stream
30:18
because with both this and the opening
30:20
Wrestle Women's match, They
30:22
didn't slow down a lot
30:24
during the ad breaks. No, no.
30:26
If you didn't have commentary
30:28
telling you when the ad breaks
30:30
were happening, you wouldn't know. Yeah,
30:33
but – go out of your
30:35
way really to watch this show, but
30:37
this in particular announced for collision
30:40
tomorrow night. It's the commander Nick Wayne
30:42
match for the TV title, Mercedes
30:44
and Harley Cameron against Julia Hart and
30:46
Chris Statlander and an open challenge
30:48
by Adam Cole for the TNT title.
30:51
They did hit it more so
30:53
in the overrun, but I really
30:55
felt like. They should
30:57
have made like this Thursday night,
30:59
like really stuck in your brain
31:01
that this is coming up tomorrow
31:03
night. And I think like you
31:05
could really benefit from like shooting
31:07
your angle on Wednesday and sending
31:09
people to Thursday a bit more.
31:12
But like it did feel like
31:14
this was like all your heavy
31:16
artillery was here on this Wednesday
31:18
night and less so for Thursday
31:20
night. But I am interested to
31:22
see how well they do Thursday
31:24
night for a different night of
31:26
the week for a collision. I
31:28
think the thing. that kind of
31:30
surprised me was that while commentary
31:32
were mentioning that it was on
31:34
Thursday, there weren't any segments to
31:36
set up matches. No. It
31:38
was going on Thursday. And that to
31:40
me, like, at least then, you know,
31:42
the audience is hearing it. So if
31:44
they, if they have friends who might
31:47
not have been at the Wednesday show,
31:49
they can say like, Hey, by the
31:51
way, like, you know, there's, there's some
31:53
cool matches coming up. Like that, I
31:55
think would have, would have helped things
31:57
along. I don't know where you could
31:59
have compressed matters at all in the,
32:01
the rest of the show, because I'm
32:03
not giving up one minute of that
32:05
wrestling. I don't know. I might've made
32:07
the MJF hurts, the hurts syndicate bit
32:09
a little shorter, but that's. just me
32:11
yeah i mean it was like 9
32:13
50 by this point and to be
32:15
quite honest like i would have been
32:17
more than satisfied and we could have
32:19
put this trios match on thursday night
32:21
and i don't think there would have
32:23
been any complaints it was like wow
32:25
now we have this trios title like
32:27
i have just sat through i'm like
32:29
this to me is like already this
32:31
is one of the better dynamites in
32:33
history at this point as we're going
32:36
into this main event so it is
32:38
the death riders uh entering from outside
32:40
the building and with Marina Shafir in
32:42
their corner, no pack, and taking on
32:44
Samoa Joe, Katsuyori Shibata, and joining them,
32:46
Powerhouse Hobbs. So we have three -on -three
32:48
for the Trios belts. So we get
32:50
right into things. First, they're beating on
32:52
Yuta for quite some time, but then
32:54
they would get the advantage on Shibata.
32:56
And at 10 .02 p .m., Excalibur notes
32:58
that we are continuing through the break. I
33:01
had a lot of time on my
33:03
hands, Kate, and I'm just wondering like
33:05
– so the concept of this overrun
33:07
is that it naturally is hopefully going
33:09
to inflate your audience because people are
33:12
– coming to this channel for what's
33:14
about to be on at 10 o
33:16
'clock so it's like if you're getting
33:18
this audience that is not into wrestling
33:20
it's a miracle that they're going to
33:22
stick around for this action but then
33:24
you're going to go to a commercial
33:26
break at in the overrun it's like
33:28
just tell these people to leave that
33:30
you're attracting at this point i don't
33:32
understand the need for a commercial break
33:34
during the overrun segment but that is
33:36
yeah i i don't i mean that
33:38
is not i I don't
33:40
know that that's on AEW,
33:42
but it's bad planning
33:44
on someone's part. If you're
33:47
TBS, why would you
33:49
want to do that? You're
33:51
naturally inviting people to
33:53
turn away from your channel.
33:56
I'm going to get the programming department
33:59
hitting me up now explaining me the
34:01
overrun commercial inventory load. But to me,
34:03
it makes no sense on the surface.
34:05
But we do come back. Shafir chop
34:07
blocks Hobbs. This was more so to
34:09
his upper thigh than it was to
34:11
the knee. But Hobbs sold it like
34:13
he'd been shot from behind. So he
34:15
goes down. And then Shabata boots Moxley
34:17
off the apron. Moxley grabs a chair.
34:20
And then Willow Nightingale runs down. This
34:22
was one of the biggest pops of
34:24
the whole match where she rips the
34:26
chair away from Jon Moxley. I think
34:28
that's the match they should be building
34:30
to forget Willow and Shafir. It's Willow
34:32
and Moxley. I think that's, that's the
34:34
program they're building too. I think we're
34:36
beyond Willow versus Shafir. Like we kind
34:39
of got that with the tag match,
34:41
but it just seems obvious that people
34:43
really want, like they want to see
34:45
Willow hit the doctor bomb on Jon
34:47
Moxley. This is what the people want.
34:49
And you know, Tony usually likes
34:51
to give the fans what they,
34:53
what they desire. But this was a
34:56
great run in for Willow and
34:58
the response she got. Then the Young
35:00
Bucks are out and Matt goes
35:02
to get a chair and Swerve appears
35:04
in the crowd and just attacks
35:06
both and hits the Swerve stomp and
35:08
just sends Matt and Nick over
35:11
the guardrails. And the crowd is going
35:13
nuts for Swerve at this point.
35:15
And this is this is sort of
35:17
like. Your House of Torture match
35:19
at the end where finally they don't
35:21
have the numbers advantage and the
35:23
babyfaces have an answer for every swerve,
35:26
pardon the pun, and for every
35:28
run -in. Everyone is outmanned. So Shibata
35:30
is choking out Claudio on the ramp
35:32
and lays him out with a
35:34
PK. Hobbs puts Yuta through
35:36
the desk with the Uranagi. And then
35:38
Shafir... Goes for a chair shot
35:40
from behind to Hobbs. So Willow
35:42
just kills Marina Shafir. And that's
35:44
the last we saw of Shafir. So
35:47
Joe is left with Moxley. He
35:49
avoids the Death Rider. Coquina clutch.
35:51
And the bell is rung. And we
35:53
have new trios champions. As Joe,
35:55
Shibata, and Hobbs win the belts.
35:57
The locker room empties. And there.
35:59
Of the baby faces. Of the baby
36:01
faces, yes, yes. The heels were
36:03
long gone by the point that
36:06
this overrun was finishing up. And
36:08
that's how they finished it. A big
36:10
celebration where Tomohiro Ishii looked like
36:12
this man didn't know where he
36:14
was, but he was celebrating as Tomohiro
36:16
Ishii would, just looking very stoic
36:18
in the middle of this ring
36:20
while Prince Nana danced around him. So
36:23
concluded spring breakthrough that there I
36:25
say, I think was one of the
36:28
better dynamites that they have produced.
36:30
This was an incredible two hours of
36:32
television. I'm so glad that I
36:34
got to do this particular show because,
36:36
yeah, being able to review this
36:38
is phenomenal. I thought it's funny because
36:40
looking at the main event, I
36:42
almost. Coming off the back of
36:44
Osprey vs. Takeshita and knowing that Mercedes, the
36:46
hometown girl vs. Athena was on first,
36:48
I was like, oh my god, I kind
36:50
of feel sorry for it. How could
36:52
they do this as their main event? It's
36:54
occurred to me, I'm like, they're dropping
36:56
those titles. for
36:59
once doing this great moment to
37:01
make people happy at the end
37:03
of the show. And then, yes,
37:05
you're celebrating how successful you've been
37:08
and you're celebrating the good guys
37:10
winning. So it all comes together.
37:12
I'm glad that they actually let
37:14
some of the celebration continue on
37:16
TV for a few minutes. It
37:18
felt good. You wanted to see
37:20
that. It was
37:22
like this big victorious
37:24
moment for the AEW squad
37:26
over the Death Riders.
37:28
And yeah, I just thought
37:30
this was a tremendous
37:33
two -hour show that they
37:35
produced. So there you have
37:37
it. That is episode
37:39
289 in the books for
37:41
AEW Dynamite. Any
37:43
other closing thoughts just coming out
37:45
of the show overall, Kate, of just
37:47
how this came across? We kind
37:50
of hit all the big beats there.
37:53
It looked great on paper and
37:55
it really delivered. I thought
37:57
it over -delivered. I think that
37:59
this, as high as my expectations
38:01
were, I guess a lot
38:03
of it hinging on the main
38:05
event. The way that the
38:07
trios match was handled made me
38:09
think the show was even
38:11
better than I expected. That's
38:13
saying something because this one looked pretty
38:16
damn good. Very, very,
38:18
very high recommendation level for Dynamite. And
38:20
that's going to wrap up the free
38:22
portion of Rewind to Dynamite. But we
38:24
got a bunch of feedback to get
38:26
to. We will see. Maybe the forum
38:28
is going to be a complete 180
38:30
for me and Kate. But Kate I
38:32
were very high on the show. I
38:34
feel a lot of people will be
38:36
reflecting our opinions. But if you're on
38:38
the free feed, once again, we're live
38:40
here on the channel Thursday, noon Eastern,
38:42
myself and John Sino. And considering jumping
38:44
on board the Post Wrestling Cafe. at
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postwrestlingcafe.com, where we will be live. Thursday,
38:50
Friday, Saturday, and we will be doing
38:52
shows Saturday and Sunday night after WrestleMania.
38:54
Lots to get to. Kate will be
38:57
back on Saturday at noon with John
38:59
Ceno, and she will be reporting back
39:01
after she comes up from air from
39:03
whatever she is able to keep up
39:05
with over these next couple of days.
39:07
But it's going to be a very,
39:10
very busy set of days with the
39:12
entire wrestling world descending upon Las Vegas.
39:14
So, Kate, I want to thank you
39:16
so much for filling in this week
39:18
for waiting. My absolute
39:20
pleasure. Every
39:22
Saturday night, Kate is with John
39:25
Cena. Well, I should say every Saturday
39:27
night. this one. Except for this
39:29
Saturday night. But you're still going to
39:31
get your Saturday fix with them
39:33
just at noon Eastern time. A more
39:35
palatable hour for you two to
39:38
be talking all WrestleMania week happenings. And
39:40
if people want to follow you
39:42
online, where's the best way to direct
39:44
people? There's really only one. I
39:46
am She Rants About Wrestling on Blue
39:48
Sky, which is She Rants MTL. And
39:51
yeah, I'm getting a little more
39:53
active on the Blue Sky. I'd
39:55
sort of take it a bit
39:57
of a step back from social
39:59
media when I ditch Twitter. But
40:01
yeah, I do like chatting with
40:03
people on there. So yeah, find
40:05
me, say, hello. I'm very friendly.
40:08
Blue Sky is way to go.
40:10
We We endorse Sky here. So
40:12
Again, I'll be live Thursday at
40:14
noon Eastern time with John Sino,
40:16
our intrepid dynamite recapper up on
40:18
postwrestling.com. The working man. The hardest
40:20
working man in pro wrestling, John
40:22
Sino. So chat with all of
40:24
you Thursday noon. A big thank
40:26
you to Kate Montreal, as well
40:28
as Simon behind the scenes, keeping
40:30
the show flowing. So thank all
40:33
of you for staying up with
40:35
us And insanity begins now. Although
40:37
maybe we have just seen the
40:39
best show of WrestleMania week. It
40:41
might be over before it even
40:43
started. We will see. All right.
40:45
That's it for us. Thanks to
40:47
everyone for tuning in to Rewind
40:49
a Dynamite. Goodbye. This
40:51
month at post wrestling cafe.com
40:53
go XL and you get live
40:55
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day, your questions and answers as
41:03
well as feedback. post wrestling.com
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$6 you in the door.
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