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Welcome back to the Print On Demand cast

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. This week we're talking about free and

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inexpensive marketing ideas for

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Print On Demand . Let's get into it .

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Radical . Welcome to this week's

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episode of the Print On Demand cast

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, radical . Welcome to this week's episode of the

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Print on Demand cast . Each

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week , join the gnarly , travis and Josiah as they provide insight into the print-on-demand industry

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and equip you with the totally tubular tools , advice and strategies you

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need to achieve success and , hopefully

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, have a few laughs along the way . Now

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on to this week's totally tubular show

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. Totally tubular show .

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Welcome . Ladies and gentlemen , back to

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the print on demand cast and

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, my goodness , we're

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back in person . It feels like it's been

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forever , but here we are

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, joining me , as always

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, travis Ross from Make your Mark Design

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, travis . The last couple weeks have

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been a little nuts when it comes

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to schedules and day

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jobs and you know the things that

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afford us the time to do this

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thing .

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It's a little ships in the

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night if you were yeah , it's summer , so

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lots of things going on , and um , yeah , we're . Uh , I guess this will air next week because we're

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recording this , you know , pull back the curtain . We're recording

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this a week before . Um , we're like actually

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ahead of the game seven

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days so weird . So

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we're actually planning on going out of town camping

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, and then again next week for the fourth of july we're

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gonna planning on going out of town camping , and then again next week for the 4th of July we're going

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to go camping , right , and so there's like a lot of

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camping happening in the Ross household

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. So we needed to get this out , but

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that also means that we're busy

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, and you know , getting a camper put

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back together . We got a little pop up that

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we like to use and it had

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uh , it got invaded by rodents

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, and so if you have

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ever had to clean out a camper with rodents , you

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know what I'm talking about . It's a pain in the ass . It

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really is . So , um , that's

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what we've been dealing with , and just kind of getting

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all everything ready , uh

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so , but here we are .

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Yeah , we're

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here and we're doing it . We're doing the thing . You know how long it's been since I've been

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camping and I'm not joking you , it's

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probably been over

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20 years since the last time I actually went

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camping . Yeah

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, I went a lot when I was younger and in middle school

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, but it just hasn't

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happened .

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I don't get it . It's so much fun , man

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, in fact you should come

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with us , that'd just be great

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. We'll pitch a tent right next

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to us , that's the thing .

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I'm the guy that's like , hey , because our

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church has a men's camping trip as well

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. It's like are you going to come ? I'm like , well

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, is there like a cabin or like

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a camper or like you know

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? Like , cause I'm not , I'm not pitching a tent , I'm not

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sleeping on the floor . So it's

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usually where my opportunity

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to camping , to go camping , ends

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, cause I'm like are

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we doing this my way ? Or like backpacking three days through the mountains

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, sleeping on the floor , because I won't do the ladder . So

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that's usually why that

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happens . But , as you mentioned

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, travis , when people are listening to this , it is

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the day before the 4th of July . So

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we're going to say a happy 4th of July

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to all of you guys . Hope you all are having a

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safe and happy 4th

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of July . I know I have some family coming into

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town and I think 4th

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of July has slowly become one of my favorite

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holidays to the end

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, to the extent where I have , like

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months ago , bought the stuff that I wear for

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the 4th of July because the outfit's

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going to be on point , so very excited

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. Maybe I'll take pictures and post to the

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Print On Demand cast Instagram story what

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we're doing . Maybe we should both do that . Just kind of document

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. Our 4th july is on the story um

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and you guys can let us know what you are doing as well

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. But yeah , happy fourth to everybody

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out there in the print on demand cast

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multiverse . So we've

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got a lot in store for you today

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for our first episode back

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since the 200th , our first one

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. But I like how in the 200 , like man , consistency

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is the thing and I was gone and it

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was a rebroadcast , and so I

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guess you know that's what happens . Keep your words soft

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and sweet in case you have to eat them . But uh

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, in our main event , we're going to be talking about again free and

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inexpensive marketing ideas for print on demand

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. So you're not going to want to miss that . But before we get there

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, we're going to go to everyone's favorite segment the

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weekly dad joke time for the

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weekly dad joke . All

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right , travis . Uh , this week's

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weekly dad joke is as follows

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so my wife has a strict

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policy against billy joel

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jokes so , as a result

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, it hasn't happened in the

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longest time for

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contact with billy joel . It's a song

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. It hasn't happened in the longest time For contact this is Billy

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Joel .

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It's a song .

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Yes , thank you , barney and Ted

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. From how I Met your Mother , that show's back on

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Netflix . Good to watch

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, it's a good time , so that's this week .

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It's not the last show .

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Yeah , it is I digress . So

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we're going to move

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right ahead into our next

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segment , which is actually really cool

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. I'm actually really excited to talk about this because it kind

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of seems like the thing that we wish existed when

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we were doing this , but

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we can still tell people and let them take advantage

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of it . So , that being said , we're just going to get right into

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this week's point of interest

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.

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Point of interest Very , very cool

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thing that we have to talk about today uh

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, it's a website called fourth wall

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and some of you may have heard of heard

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of it before it's been out , for it's been around

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for a little while . Um , I

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don't remember when I heard about it , maybe a year ago or

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so but um

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, it's kind of what it's . It's

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similar to what we were attempting

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in both of our businesses to do with

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Deco Network , by

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creating websites for

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our customers and then allowing them

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to sell their print on demand products , and

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then we would obviously produce the products

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and make our money on the back

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end . And so Fourth

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Wall has kind of taken that idea

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and really expanded on it . It's

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very , very cool and you just

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I , just I'm the one who introduced it to you

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. Is that correct ?

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Yeah , I'd never , never heard of it before

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, Um , and then you're like we should talk about fourth

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wall , and you know , I studied theater

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, so I'm like , is that the thing we're not supposed to break ? Um

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, but so , but

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it's really , really cool to see

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what what they're doing and how they're

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, how kind of easy they're they're

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making it here , Um , you can

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see , you know the this some

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, some case studies here . But , um

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, the site , if you're watching on YouTube

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, you can see , like some of the websites , and it's way

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sexier than Deco Network ever

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was . And so the fact that you

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know you can build

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a print on demand site and sell physical

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products , that was one thing that I absolutely

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was . Some of the most frustrating things

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about Deco is that

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if someone was selling an item that was outside

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of the catalog , there was so many workarounds

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you had to do to make it actually feasible

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to do it , Um , and that's just not

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the case with these guys . So , um

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, you can see here on the , the shops

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, or sorry , the , the features and fees uh

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, they don't charge anything on physical products

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, Um , but on digital

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products they do take a 3% fee

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. So that's how they make their money . Is they

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take a percentage of what you sell .

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Yeah , well , they also do

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print on demand . They have products . So

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go up to the product catalog there , josiah

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, you can actually add

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products from

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this print on demand catalog , like shirts

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and mugs , and

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you can see different products there , that they've got

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hats and all these different things , aprons

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, and you can sell those , and

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they don't necessarily

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. You don't pay a percentage when something sells

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, because my guess is that

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either they're doing it themselves or

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they have a you know a vendor

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that they've made an agreement with where they get

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you know a percentage . So it's like it's almost

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exactly like our Deco experiment

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in the past with print on demand

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products , and so they , you can choose from these products

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, then you can add your branding . They have mock-up

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generators the whole nine yards and

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then once , once you

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sell something , they fulfill it for you

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, of course , and you don't pay a percentage

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or anything . And fourth

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wall makes the money on you

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know that product that they printed

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or had a you know a print partner

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print , and so I'm

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not sure about all of the pricing

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, I mean as far as like

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each of the individual products , but

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I do remember when I looked at

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it in the past it wasn't crazy

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. I don't like . I say

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I don't know exactly how much it is , but

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we can maybe click into one of those . Let's

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see , for instance , a comfort

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colors garment dyed

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t-shirt 1717

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. Wow , seven from 14.95

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, which is actually a really good price . Then you obviously

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have shipping on top of that , but still

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, um , that's not

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bad at all . You can even get them embroidered . So

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I mean , there's a lot of opportunity here

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with these products and

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um , you know , if you were considering

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Shopify for your store , well

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, depending on you

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know how you want to spin it , fourth

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wall might be a better solution

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for you . If you don't , you

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know , if you don't have like

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products that you just can't even get because

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you can't like integrate anything into it

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, if they don't have it and it's print on demand , you

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, it has to be a physical product that you ship

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. So you'd have to manually . You

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know , if somebody ordered something that they

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didn't supply , you'd have to manually

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go to yours . You either have to have it at your house

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, you know , and and ship it , um

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, or you'd have to go manually and enter an

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order in on a printify or a printful

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or wherever , and have it , and , and

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then you'd have to manually track , you know , send the tracking

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back , et cetera , et cetera . But

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if you're just selling , like t-shirts

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and some basic stuff , and

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it's a great , great option , it

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also has the ability to do new

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memberships . So cause it's made for influencers

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, it's made for people who have an audience

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, and so if you have

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, you know , an audience , or

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you know a bunch of people that are following

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you , you can actually create a membership

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for them and then you could like offer

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them member only video or like

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a discord channel or you know those

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types of things . And yeah , well

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, it takes 5% of that . So

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it looks like they're taking stuff on

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the digital side of things but not on the physical

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side of things . It's really cool .

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Yeah , it is really cool and I was wondering to see how

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long it would be until

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someone like this would come along and do something

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that was congruent to a Patreon , because

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Patreon kind of started all this paywall stuff

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with content creators and this bonus content and sign up for because that's kind of patreon

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kind of started all this paywall stuff with with , um , yeah , content creators and these bonus content

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and sign up for these subscriptions . So the fact

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that you can house all of that um

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here as well , instead of going into

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patreon and trying to link it to the store , that's really

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really cool that it's all in the same ecosystem . So , fourthwallcom

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, check it out . If that's something you're interested in , if

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you're listening and you're an influencer , you have a , you have

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an audience . Check it out

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and give it a shot and let us know , because I'm curious

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to see how this works and

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what the quality is . You know getting the samples following

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all of our recommendations , because they are a supplier

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as well . So you're going to want to know exactly what

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they're working with or what you're working with . So , yeah

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, give it a shot and let us know how it goes .

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Yeah , so go ahead

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. I was just going to say , yeah

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, it's cool and

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it's free , yeah why not ?

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That was the easiest pitch when talking

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to folks is hey , you want free money

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and I'll get into that more

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in our main event , talking about free

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and inexpensive marketing ideas for

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print-on-demand . So let's dive

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right in to the meat and potatoes , the main event

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with this new bumper that Travis actually made

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. He made this , guys Wait wait

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, yep , wait .

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That's the one . On

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a cold , dreary night in September of 2020 , travis Ross and Josiah Cifuentes

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created the Print on Demand cast . This is the main event .

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It's like an unsolved mystery . What

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happened in that garage on a cold , dreary

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night in September of 2020

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? So , all right . So this week's main event again talking

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about marketing ideas for Print on Demand , and

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we've got a lot of different stuff that we can hit on , but travis , I think , kind of the , the

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big one that that is kind of the . The obvious thing to talk about first is social

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media , because there's so

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much marketing potential when it comes

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to leveraging the different various

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platforms that are out there .

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Yeah , and I think , as we go through these

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, it could . It can potentially

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get overwhelming really quick because there's a lot of things that

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you can do , but you don't

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have to do them all , you know , but the

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one you choose , or ones you choose

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, you want to do them . Well , you

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know , and I am , you know , I'm

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preaching to the choir right now because I

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don't do very well with

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most of these . I

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do okay with some of them , but

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, yeah , social media is obviously

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the lowest barrier to

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entry , and if we're talking about free

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, I say a lot . You're either going to pay with your

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dollars or you're going to pay with your time , and

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so , social media , you

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don't have to pay any dollars , which is really cool

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, but you will have to pay with your time

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. And so what

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we recommend is , you

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know , choosing a channel or maybe two channels , and

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really going all in understanding those things

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, understanding , like , the different

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things that you can do with those channels . Because , like

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Instagram , I mean , mean , can

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you think about when we started

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, compared to where instagram is today

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, and the different things that you can do , like

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we started the print on demand cast anyway , right

15:16

, think about what you could do back then versus

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what you can do today with that

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platform .

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it's , it's ridiculous , you know

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yeah , I mean , we started when we started , it wasn't

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even merged under one umbrella . Yeah

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, it wasn't ready yet and so

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, yeah , there's so much more functionality . And

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again , something to think about when

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you're trying to decide which platform

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to start on is really what demographic you're

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trying to really appeal to , because

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I personally haven't

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. I had some luck on

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Facebook . Most of my luck on advertising

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and stuff like that has been on Facebook or , sorry

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, on Instagram or TikTok , but it's just the different

15:53

demographics . I think there's kind

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of this cultural idea

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that Facebook is now for the boomers

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and the older folks and grandma , grandpa

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. They get on Facebook to check everyone's life

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or write on their facebook wall , because

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is that still a thing ? No one knows . But

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but then you get into instagram and tiktok and

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that's where more of the younger demographic is . The

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reels are there . You know the stories

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. Instagram is a little bit more friendly

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for , like that , quick scrolled images only

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um , you know the image captures

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the most of it . So there's lots that you're doing

16:25

now on instagram . And then tiktok is , you

16:27

know , gen z and gen alpha

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or whatever . The next generation

16:32

after this one is um , whatever they're calling

16:34

it . But that's where a lot of the younger demographic

16:36

is skewing . Um , because just

16:38

tiktok dominates so much

16:40

of the cultural conversation when it comes to

16:43

social media and viral trends . A lot

16:45

of people are on there and so

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TikTok shop actually is a thing now

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, and that's why is because you

16:51

know it gives you the opportunity to sell things

16:54

directly on TikTok . I

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think I shared this a couple of weeks ago , but

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I made my first purchase off TikTok

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shop . I love sunflower seeds as

17:04

a snack and my family growing up we had

17:06

sunflower seeds instead of popcorn when we watched movies . So

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I see this , this thing , this video of this guy

17:11

going up to baseball player hey , do you like seeds ? And the baseball

17:13

player tries them like yeah , these are good , I like

17:15

this flavor . And it was like five bucks for

17:17

a sample pack , and so I just clicked over

17:20

and bought something from tiktok shop . So

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they're integrating e-commerce directly

17:24

into there as well . So it's

17:27

definitely

17:30

kind of a growing ecosystem

17:32

in terms of the transaction

17:35

as well . Not just the advertising , but the ability

17:37

to keep them in TikTok

17:39

and just have them scroll over and

17:42

purchase something of yours right then and there is

17:44

a is a huge advantage

17:46

as well . But again , travis , you talked

17:48

about this on on the Facebook group and

17:50

on Instagram last couple of days or weeks

17:53

is print on demand doesn't have to be

17:55

all online either yeah

17:57

, that's right .

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Yeah , you can . There's a whole lot of things

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that you can do offline

18:02

that are free

18:04

and inexpensive marketing

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ideas and they're specifically for your

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print-on-demand business . Print-on-demand doesn't

18:12

have to be just online . So

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we've got episodes on influencer

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marketing , because and

18:20

that can go obviously , multiple

18:22

ways you can use influencer marketing

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by hiring an influencer

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to promote your products and

18:30

then , when they do click over to the

18:32

sunflower seeds

18:34

or T-shirt or whatever it is , it's your

18:36

actual product that's going to get sent

18:38

to them , and then that's

18:41

one way to use influencer marketing

18:43

. Or the other way is to use it the way

18:45

you guys used to use

18:47

it , and we used it with

18:49

Deco network , and so why don't you

18:51

explain that a little bit ?

18:53

Yeah for sure . So the other kind of

18:55

flip side of of that , of that

18:58

coin , is reaching out

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to influencers who have a

19:02

good following . And again , the lion's

19:04

share of my luck doing this was on Tik TOK

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and at the time

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not everybody on tiktok

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had merge . Now it's very much

19:13

a thing , but , um , I would go

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find people that made funny content , had

19:17

good followings , large numbers

19:19

, where it had a good level of interaction with

19:21

their , with their followers . Um

19:24

so , and

19:26

I would just slide into the DMs

19:29

and just say , hey , I love your content

19:31

, I love what you're doing . Have you ever considered merch ? And

19:33

have you ever considered doing merch

19:35

at no cost to you ? And

19:38

a lot of the times it was that

19:41

whole hook of hey , it's free , you want to make free

19:43

money . So I need to slide into the DMs

19:45

or email them and make

19:47

contact there . And then what

19:49

happens then is you are working with

19:51

the influencer to create the designs

19:54

and decide on the t-shirts and

19:56

all that kind of stuff , but then the influencer

19:58

is doing all of the marketing to their captive

20:00

audience for them to go buy

20:03

the thing that this influencer just released . So

20:05

all you have to do is market yourself as a business

20:07

and a company to the influencer and

20:09

they take care of the actual bringing

20:12

in the , the , the actual traffic

20:14

to the site to purchase . Then you just print fulfill

20:17

what they , what they bring in , um

20:19

, and then you can either do you know a percentage

20:21

split or a certain amount um

20:24

, you know , wholesale car whatever , whatever the , the

20:26

split looks , and then it's rinse and repeat

20:28

for the months to follow . So it

20:32

was a really , really fun time and I got to work with a

20:34

lot of cool people that

20:36

now have multi-million follower

20:39

you know accounts and have

20:41

agents and stuff which is wild

20:43

. So it's just it's

20:45

crazy to see where that's gone and how kind

20:48

of you know not not saying

20:50

that I was a forerunner , cause

20:53

I'm sure I'm not the only one that had the idea , but it was

20:55

seeming to be at the tip of that spear to

20:57

where now it would be really hard to get

20:59

in direct contact with an influencer because agents

21:01

are headhunting , you know massive

21:03

, you know talent agencies are trying to

21:05

get these creators in their

21:08

quiver , as it were . And so

21:10

it's the game . I'm sure it's

21:12

gotten a little bit more complicated than

21:14

when I did it , but it's still a very viable

21:16

way to pursue influencer marketing

21:18

.

21:19

Yeah , places like fourth wall didn't exist when

21:22

you were doing that too , right ?

21:24

And if they did ?

21:25

but I mean , yeah , I

21:27

mean , at the end of the day , though , there's

21:29

uh , there's still

21:31

some , some fruit on the , or

21:33

, you know , some fruit on the vine for this

21:35

type of , um , you

21:38

know , this type of marketing or this type of kind

21:40

of sales process . You

21:42

know , there's always a , there's always new ways

21:44

to do things , and so you know

21:46

, so you might not be able to contact that guy

21:49

that has the 500,000 member

21:51

group , but you might be able to

21:53

get the guy who has the 10,000 member group or

21:55

the 5,000 . They're up and coming . So

21:58

that's something to consider . With

22:00

this strategy . We did do a couple of episodes

22:03

episode 159

22:05

and 160 , influencer Marketing

22:07

101 and 201

22:09

. I remember episode 160 , I was

22:12

actually on the road to California

22:14

and recorded that , but

22:16

those are two that you can

22:18

kind of hear more about this technique

22:20

and how Josiah was

22:23

using it back in the day was

22:31

using it back in the day . And then the episode 160 , the 201 was the

22:33

next week when we were talking about an actual podcast listener that I kind of did some consulting

22:35

with and was giving him some ideas about how

22:37

to use this using

22:40

Shopify and how he

22:42

could potentially build

22:45

a brand for multiple

22:47

people in the same niche and

22:49

use affiliates and all of those things

22:51

. So it's , it's the well goes deep

22:54

, I guess , is what I'm saying . We did two episodes

22:56

back to back on it . That's how deep it goes . So check

22:58

those out Episode 159 and 160

23:01

.

23:01

Absolutely . The next thing you can

23:03

do is is Google maps claiming

23:05

your your Google listing . Right thing

23:09

you can do is is google maps

23:11

claiming your your google listing right .

23:13

Wow , did you hear that ? That was .

23:14

I did very loud thunder so , yeah , if I lose power , you'll

23:16

all know why . Um , it seems to be right

23:18

on top of us . Um

23:20

, so google maps you can claim your google

23:23

map listing your google business listing , travis

23:25

, talk , talk about this , because I know Make your Mark

23:27

has done that

23:30

and when you had a physical

23:32

shop , it resulted in a lot of people just

23:34

ringing a doorbell and saying hey , I

23:36

saw you guys on Google , or picking up the phone and saying

23:38

I'm looking for some memorial

23:41

shirts or whatever . But talk about

23:43

, kind of , how that free

23:45

piece of marketing injected

23:47

some revenue into the business and it's

23:49

just as simple as going through a process on

23:51

Google .

23:53

Yeah , it really is that simple . I

23:56

mean , even if you're working out of your house , I

23:58

mean you can do this . I mean

24:00

, maybe you're not as comfortable , but

24:02

I don't necessarily think anyone's

24:05

going to show up to a residential

24:07

neighborhood and knock on your door . It's

24:09

more of a you

24:11

want to be in that map search

24:14

, that Google Maps search , but you basically

24:16

just go to Google Maps and find your

24:18

location and then you can claim

24:20

that location as a business and once

24:22

you've done that , you get all of these tools that Google has created . You can do sales

24:24

. Done that , you get all of these tools that Google has created

24:27

, you can , you can do , you

24:29

could do sales . You have a feed

24:31

, almost like a Facebook , if you will , but

24:33

for your business , and you can , you know

24:35

, blast things out . People can chat

24:37

to you and you'll get a little email , or

24:39

, if you happen to be on Google , it'll

24:41

actually pop up and

24:44

it'll say you have a message waiting for you , they

24:46

can call you , you can put your phone in there

24:48

, et cetera , et cetera . There's all of these different things

24:50

, and so , um , I talked about

24:52

it , I think on the 200th episode that , uh

24:55

, I have literally two orders in the queue

24:57

. Um , they should be done by the

24:59

time this you know uh podcast

25:01

comes out . They're still getting shipped to me , everything's

25:04

getting shipped to me , everything's getting shipped to me . But I have two

25:06

orders in the queue , for one

25:09

emailed me and one

25:11

called me from

25:13

my Google maps listing

25:15

and that , and so all

25:18

I have to do now . I mean you could

25:20

do this with a print on demand provider . You could

25:22

say , hey , these are how much the shirts are , because

25:24

the cool thing about it is you can have

25:26

it all shipped to you or even have it shipped to

25:28

them . And more you order

25:30

, obviously the less the shipping is , because

25:32

when they do bundle or when they do more than one , they

25:34

lower the price . And so even

25:36

if you only make , you know , 15

25:39

, 20 percent markup

25:41

on these , you know items might

25:44

be worth your while if it's like a 50 print

25:47

order . I have a actual flat

25:49

press and a hat press and so I can do some of that

25:51

stuff here . I

25:53

posted about a laser engraved hat

25:55

that I did for

25:58

a company here that didn't

26:00

. I didn't connect with them through Google maps , but

26:02

that's probably on

26:05

a future one . There when we talk about like community

26:07

relationships , but the idea

26:09

being they are repeat

26:11

customers and so , and so will

26:14

these new people potentially , if

26:16

they're pleased with what we offer them

26:18

. So it's just

26:20

to me it's a no brainer and

26:22

it I guess it really just depends

26:25

on your level of comfort of

26:27

marking your if

26:29

you do live in a house or an apartment or something

26:31

like that actually claiming that

26:34

spot as a business on

26:36

Google . But the cool thing is , if you do , you

26:39

show up for that particular

26:41

industry . You can show up for printers

26:43

in your area when someone does

26:45

a search like that and you might get a phone

26:48

call , you might get an email and it'll

26:50

turn into an order . Then you can figure out how to fulfill

26:52

it exactly .

26:54

That's the fun part is not wanting

26:56

to say no and then figuring out how you've figured

26:58

out from there . So , um , yeah

27:00

, the next one , a local chamber of commerce

27:03

commerce , rather , or rotary club

27:05

, um , which this one's huge

27:07

too . Um , I'm

27:10

looking for my day job looking into the fort

27:12

collins chamber of commerce , because I've heard that they

27:14

are wildly active

27:17

. Um , they do like

27:19

three networking things a week and

27:21

so , um , they're just churning

27:23

out events . But I went , you

27:25

know , and also you can do local chamber of commerce

27:28

rotary club meetup Also . You can do local chamber of commerce Rotary Club meetupcom Also

27:30

. You can find some good groups , some

27:33

networking groups . I just went to lunch yesterday

27:35

with this group that's industry specific , only

27:37

one of each kind of industry . I went

27:39

and had

27:41

lunch and met some people and made some connections

27:43

and explained what we do or what

27:46

I do . It's one of those things where the

27:48

point is to refer people to

27:51

those businessmen in that group . That's

27:53

how it becomes profitable for everybody

27:57

and that's a lot of fun . I had a great time . It was out

27:59

of my comfort zone because I was just walking

28:02

in blind and no idea

28:04

what to expect , but it was great and I'll go back

28:09

to the next one and it's a seed . You're not might

28:11

not get something immediately out of these kind

28:13

of chamber of commerce , rotary club connections

28:16

, but it's a . It's a seed watering

28:18

process where you're just that guy that becomes

28:20

their friend and they see you monthly and all of a

28:22

sudden you're talking shop and

28:24

you have an option or the the ability

28:26

to earn their business , you know . And then I

28:28

was thinking yesterday , at this lunch , everyone

28:31

walked in , of course , sporting their

28:33

swag . It's like right , everyone's

28:36

got a polo , everyone's got their hat , everyone's

28:38

got their bag , something like

28:40

man . If I was still in the print industry , this thing

28:42

would have been incredible because immediately

28:44

I could have been talking about

28:46

print on demand and how we can do , you

28:48

know , merch for your staff and do internal

28:51

facing stores and just would have

28:53

cleaned up . But

28:55

but that's that's the cool thing about

28:57

this industry specifically , where

29:00

the industry that I'm in for , my day job , not

29:02

everyone is going to need . But , as business owners

29:04

, everyone wants swag going to need . But as business owners

29:06

, everyone wants swag . Everyone wants hats , polos

29:08

, shirts , cups

29:17

, mugs , whatever . So you're already of value to the people in the room . It's just up to you to earn their

29:19

trust and tell them why you're different and how you can do

29:21

it better than maybe the guy that they're using down the road . But

29:23

I digress , it's a really good opportunity

29:26

to make some connections .

29:27

Yeah , I mean , face face to face

29:30

is always the best way and easiest way to

29:32

to sell and and

29:35

you're basically going to an event like I

29:37

was part of the broomfield chamber of commerce . Now

29:39

, this is maybe not this

29:42

is definitely not free for a chamber

29:44

of commerce , but , um , you

29:46

know , you get a couple , a couple of orders

29:48

and it becomes pretty cheap , um

29:51

, you know , percentage wise . So I

29:53

did business with people

29:56

from the chamber and I actually , like

29:58

my insurance guy was a guy I met at the chamber

30:00

, you know , um , for those longtime

30:03

listeners , you remember , josiah was in insurance for

30:05

a nanosecond and he

30:09

won my he , I , I , I transferred

30:11

to him for my auto and then when

30:13

he got out of it , I

30:15

was like , well , I don't have any allegiance to this company

30:18

. So I jumped ship and

30:20

went to this guy and took , took him all of my business

30:22

. So he's , you know , he's making money

30:24

for me and will continue to make money for me

30:27

and I will continue to make money from

30:29

the businesses that I

30:31

solicited and we did business

30:33

when I was in the chamber . I actually

30:36

am not . I don't have my physical location in Broomfield

30:38

, so I decided not to renew , but I still have

30:40

relationships . I still get emails from

30:42

some of the people saying hey , we're doing a thing . You

30:44

should come by , you know , and anytime

30:46

I see an event in Broomfield

30:49

that I know the chamber is going to be at , I can walk up

30:51

and be . Hey , and

30:56

I have that rapport and relationship with it . Yeah , that really kind of

30:58

dovetails nicely into the next one , which

31:00

is community relationships , and

31:02

this is where I would put that

31:04

patch hat order that I was talking

31:06

about with western hut . Um , that

31:09

particular relationship came from church

31:11

, um , and you may not go to church , and that's fine

31:14

, but you know , you go to other places

31:16

. Maybe you have other social outlets

31:18

, other places you go , you , you know , um

31:20

, and you have , so I'd interrupt

31:23

.

31:23

But to your point . Oh , the the poker nights

31:25

that you would go to you were t-shirt travis

31:27

. You know what I mean like that , that was a nickname that

31:29

you were given , um , and I'd

31:31

go there and be like , oh , t-shirt travis

31:34

, and then you know your random mexican friend

31:36

that would show up with you every like , once a quarter and

31:38

I'd be like , yeah , I care too . But but to

31:40

that , the point is that you

31:43

were known as the t-shirt guy and

31:45

that was you . You know a nickname that you

31:47

were given and that was another local community

31:50

relationship that you had built with the

31:52

people there . And

31:54

so , to your point , it might not be church , but really

31:57

think about and a lot of sometimes I think people get a

31:59

little , they

32:02

overcomplicate this idea of what is a

32:04

community relationship . Well , it's not church and I'm not

32:06

in the chamber , but is there a place

32:08

, where is there , what's your

32:10

cheers , where everyone knows your name ? Because that

32:12

is your community relationship , right

32:14

, you know what I mean . Like it can be a poker night you

32:16

go to once a month , once a week . It can

32:19

be , you know , a motorcycle club that you're a part

32:21

of , that you guys hang out and talk bikes or whatever , but wherever

32:24

, wherever you have that , your people

32:26

, that is a

32:29

great way to kind

32:31

of use that community relationships to

32:33

earn business and referrals .

32:35

I think one of the things that you have to

32:37

overcome is

32:40

the fear of telling people that

32:42

you're doing this because you haven't had

32:44

very many sales and so you're kind of embarrassed

32:46

. You know , sure , stop it

32:49

. Just stop it , okay

32:51

, and own that you're doing

32:53

this . That's the only way you're ever going to get

32:55

these types of sales . You know

32:57

, and well , I don't know that I can , I

33:00

can't give them a good deal because I'm going through

33:02

somebody else . Well , they

33:06

don't know that they don't know how to

33:08

get this stuff . You have so much more knowledge

33:10

than you give yourself credit for . You have

33:12

imposter syndrome , so stop

33:14

it and start telling people and

33:17

become t-shirt Mary or

33:19

t-shirt Joan or t-shirt

33:21

Mike . I don't care Garment

33:24

, greg . There we go , but

33:27

you have to get that um if you want

33:29

to be successful in these not online

33:32

parts of print on demand

33:34

.

33:34

Yep , yep and I guess we should have uh

33:36

, given maybe like a wear your helmet warning

33:39

before that , because last time we were very direct

33:41

people . They were like man , I sure wore my helmet because travis beat

33:43

me over the head with , uh , with his advice

33:45

. But I was just going to say

33:47

that the hard part is you're thinking , well

33:50

, what if they ask me questions

33:52

? How am I going to answer ? And the reality is that you

33:54

know more already than they do , because that's

33:56

not their job , that's not what they're studying

33:58

, that's not what they're investing in , that's not what they're learning about

34:00

. So you already have answers that

34:03

will satiate their curiosity and be like

34:05

oh , I had no idea that was a thing . Or oh

34:07

, that's what ring spawning is . Or why do these t-shirts feel

34:09

like crap ? You know what I mean ? Like

34:11

you can give those answers . You

34:14

know , yesterday in the lunch there was a guy who was starting a brand

34:16

new business and he was very

34:18

nervous . There were two guys . One

34:20

of them was I'm starting a business

34:22

that is a tech

34:25

business and I come in and help you . I'll come

34:27

in and help people set up their surround sounds , their

34:29

movies , troubleshoot their computers , and

34:31

he was very nervous about it . But

34:34

the point is he was there , he did it and people were

34:36

like , oh so could you help my mom or my grandma

34:38

, or could you go in and could you help

34:43

my mom or my grandma , or could you go in and could you ? Because

34:45

again , there's people who don't know what you know and you can

34:47

help them . So yeah , imposter syndrome is real , but you

34:50

have to get over it , and if we didn't , we wouldn't be at episode

34:52

203 . We'd still be talking about what

34:54

if

34:57

?

34:57

we did a podcast

35:00

.

35:00

So the next one is content

35:02

marketing . So , travis , I

35:04

know you've done some content marketing . You've done

35:06

some blogging and some guest blogs

35:08

as well . Um

35:10

, for and , and kind of articles for , for magazines

35:12

, right .

35:14

Yeah , yeah . So content marketing

35:16

is literally any , any type of content

35:18

that you put out there that

35:20

has a link back to your site . You

35:23

know it could literally also

35:25

be on your site . So , for instance , at

35:27

printondemandcastcom , we have a blog and

35:30

you know there's

35:32

different things that are like linking to outside

35:34

websites and linking to inside websites

35:37

. Part of that is for the Google SEO

35:39

and the whole thing is really for helping

35:41

your Google rankings . You know your

35:44

, your authority , your , your website's

35:46

authority if you have your own website . But

35:49

you can do this even if you just have point

35:51

them back to your products or your website or

35:53

whatever . You

36:06

can do it with video blogs . You could literally

36:08

just start a YouTube channel and start

36:11

talking about the things that you do and

36:14

the niche that you don't have

36:16

to put your face on if you don't want to , and

36:18

then in the description you can link to your site

36:20

, link to the products that you were talking about

36:22

. The other cool thing

36:24

about having your own website is that when

36:27

you actually what we'll talk about a customer

36:29

follow up strategy here in a

36:31

minute but you

36:33

can get user generated content

36:36

, which is basically like people wearing

36:38

or using

36:40

your different products that you sell and

36:42

they'll actually take pictures of

36:44

them in that shirt or whatever . But you

36:46

have to ask , you have to have the

36:49

, the boldness again to

36:51

make that ask , you know

36:53

, and so , but that

36:56

is powerful , like seeing other people

36:58

, like when you go to an Etsy page and you

37:00

see other people on that product

37:03

wearing that shirt or whatever

37:05

you know in the , in the reviews , that's powerful

37:08

to future buyers . And

37:10

if you can continue to like , you

37:12

know , build that up , get reviews , get pictures

37:14

, get images , um , it

37:17

can really go a long way to establishing

37:19

that , that trust factor

37:22

that we talk about in the know

37:24

, like and trust kind

37:26

of three pronged trident

37:29

of sales . Yes

37:32

Is that I just . I just dubbed

37:34

that .

37:35

Yeah .

37:37

Of sales yeah .

37:39

Okay , we're going to .

37:40

We're going to go with it Makes no sense .

37:41

Yeah , exactly so . Yeah , I mean of sales . Yeah , okay , we're gonna go with . It makes no sense . Yeah , exactly

37:43

so . Yeah , I mean that's it's . And even you know , thinking

37:45

about in

37:48

for for us . You know , a

37:51

podcast is a way to do marketing

37:53

as well , to position yourself . Starting

37:55

a podcast going on other people's shows

37:57

we go on other people's podcasts and we'll point

37:59

back to the front of the man cast user generated content is what we go

38:01

on other people's podcasts and we'll point back to the print on demand . Cast user generated content

38:03

is what we did on on episode 200 having you guys send

38:05

those messages in or write in so

38:07

that we could use that content and and

38:10

and use it as a testimonial for the show

38:12

or just an interaction piece to know that

38:14

you know people are finding this content helpful

38:16

and so , um , yeah

38:18

, I think , I think it's , it's great . Know , podcasts

38:21

, was it ? We

38:23

were at Podfest in Orlando . They said that no one runs

38:26

to their email every

38:28

week and says , man , I hope that blog came through , but

38:30

people will do that for a podcast . I

38:32

know from experience , I know

38:34

when my go-to podcasts drop

38:37

, I know what day it is and I know when to go look

38:39

for the new episodes so I

38:41

can listen to them . So

38:43

again , podcast is another way to do it and

38:45

it's a pretty low impact

38:47

or low cost . So if

38:49

you have more questions about that too , love to help

38:52

you even get one of those

38:54

started . So you mentioned

38:56

Travis , a customer follow-up

38:58

strategy . So unpack that a little bit

39:00

for those that are listening that don't quite

39:02

know what that could be

39:04

in terms of a follow-up strategy for their customers

39:07

.

39:10

Yeah , I mean once you start getting sales

39:12

. I think this is so important

39:15

because , again , it'll

39:17

cost you time but it's not going to cost you very much

39:19

money . And basically

39:21

, a customer follow-up strategy is

39:24

exactly that . When you create

39:26

a customer or get a customer

39:29

, someone buys something for you , you

39:31

have a follow-up strategy . So you're

39:33

going to follow

39:36

up with a message on whatever platform

39:38

that product sold on . So if it's sold on Amazon

39:40

, you have a template that goes out or

39:42

whatever . It doesn't have to be a template . You can do

39:44

a manual . If you don't get a whole lot of sales

39:47

, you know it's pretty easy . The

39:49

same thing if it sells on Etsy . You know

39:51

you send them a message and

39:53

you ask if everything went all right with

39:55

your order . I hope you're enjoying it , et cetera

39:57

, et cetera . Ask them for

39:59

a review and then also ask

40:02

them for user generated content . Say

40:09

, it would mean the world to us if you would take a picture of yourself and include it in the you

40:11

know , in the review , or send me back or reply

40:13

to this email or this message with

40:15

an image of whatever , because

40:17

we would love to share this , share

40:20

your excitement about our products with the world

40:22

. I mean that may be overboard

40:24

, but you get the idea of

40:26

having some type of follow-up

40:29

messaging that

40:32

happens every time you sell . There

40:34

are products that you can get . That will do

40:36

this automatically if you have a whole lot of sales

40:38

. But at the beginning you can just do it yourself . Create

40:40

that template , send it out every time something

40:43

sells . You'll be surprised A

40:45

lot . Um . You'll probably get about 10%

40:47

. Um is is kind of an average

40:50

. It depends , I guess that depends on the niche

40:52

that you're going after , the the type of person

40:54

that's that you're going after . Um , but

40:57

you know if you get 10% , that's pretty

40:59

great , you know . So you

41:01

get a review out of that , one

41:03

out of every 10 . Maybe

41:05

by doing this it bumps it up to 20%

41:08

. You get two out of every 10 because you're actually

41:10

asking for these things . I

41:13

highly recommend an email

41:15

service , email

41:18

marketing of some sort . In

41:20

fact we use ConvertKit for the Print

41:23

on Demandcast VIP list and you can go sign

41:25

up if you're not a part of that printondemandcastcom

41:27

slash VIP and you'll get our

41:29

annual design calendar , which

41:32

you probably heard it on the front and end the

41:35

advertisements at the beginning and the end of this show

41:37

and you get something from

41:39

us . And so you can do that same

41:41

thing with your print on demand store . You can

41:43

say , hey , in that follow-up email

41:46

, I would love to put

41:48

you on our email list , um

41:50

, and offer you 20%

41:53

off anything in our store , and

41:55

if they really do like your brand , that

41:57

might be an enticement for them to send

42:00

you an email . And then you

42:02

have that person's email

42:04

. You can remarket to them for free

42:06

forever . That's the cool thing

42:08

. Well , until they unsubscribe , but

42:10

you can continue to market

42:13

to them . Hey , we put out some new stuff in this

42:15

niche and it's great , and you liked

42:17

this niche , so you should buy it . And

42:20

because you're on my email list , I'll give you an additional 10%

42:23

. You know , whatever , whatever your margins can handle

42:25

, but you get the idea . Um

42:27

, email marketing is super

42:29

, super powerful and I believe

42:31

that it should be a part of your customer

42:33

follow-up strategy . Uh , convert

42:36

kit . Uh , you can go to print on demand castcom

42:39

slash convert kit . It's actually

42:41

free until you get

42:43

to a certain number of subscribers . Or

42:45

you can upgrade to like do

42:48

some extra stuff , but just sending

42:50

, just having an email list with the ability

42:52

to email them whenever you want is free until

42:55

you hit us . Like I said , until you hit a certain number

42:58

of subscribers at the beginning , there's no reason you

43:00

shouldn't be doing this . Highly

43:02

recommend it . Print on a mancastcom

43:04

slash convert kit . Put that in

43:06

the show notes . And

43:08

what was the other one that I mentioned

43:11

? There was another link that I wanted to remember

43:15

. It doesn't matter If I think

43:17

about it , I'll put it in the show notes . How about that ?

43:19

How about that ? Yep , just dive into the show notes

43:21

and see what's there for you . So

43:24

we talked about email marketing , collabs and partnerships

43:27

. Again , that can be online

43:29

, it can be offline , it can be

43:31

putting on an event with another company

43:34

, one of the ideas

43:36

that we kind of tossed

43:38

around helping

43:40

sponsor an event and being there

43:42

to provide merch like sublimatable

43:45

t-shirts or mugs they're on , they're on site

43:47

. Just being in there with the

43:49

with the other , the other business that's putting on this

43:51

the event . In my

43:53

day job it looks like , you know , in

43:56

the senior living community there's a , a

43:58

, a company called Dementia Together

44:00

and they put on some educational courses for

44:03

people who have family members that

44:05

are going through dementia and we partner

44:07

with them and help kind of bring some more educational

44:09

resource and let people know our services . So it's

44:11

just collaborating to to

44:14

help each other out and leverage

44:16

each other's

44:18

audiences and and our , our

44:20

knowledge in in that particular industry

44:22

. So there's lots of stuff you can do

44:24

in collabs and partnerships .

44:27

Right , yeah , I mean , I've

44:29

heard of people again

44:31

. If

44:34

you have like some equipment , you know potentially

44:37

like a flat press or something like that , you

44:39

know partnering with schools and PTA , that uh , you know partnering with schools

44:41

and PTA clubs or sporting

44:43

, you know like the athletic director and say , hey

44:46

, can I come to the tournament , the wrestling

44:48

tournament ? and sell my

44:50

wrestling tees , you know , uh

44:52

, and I can customize them , or I can't customize

44:54

them , whatever you know either . Or but

44:56

I have really cool shirts and we could

44:58

, you know , and you could literally just buy some transfers

45:01

with the school logo and

45:03

your cool designs . And then you

45:05

go to that school and then word gets out and pretty soon

45:07

you're doing , you know , doing these wrestling

45:10

, you know uh , shows

45:12

or wrestling tournaments all

45:15

over your area , and you're making a lot of money

45:17

because transfers don't cost a

45:19

lot and garments don't cost a lot , but

45:21

a parent buying

45:24

something to cheer on their kid

45:26

at a wrestling , they'll pay a lot . So

45:28

you do the math .

45:31

Yeah , absolutely . And

45:33

then the next , the last thing would just be old

45:35

school business cards . We just go

45:38

old school , so

45:41

, like we have , you know , for my job

45:43

we've got now I have old school business cards

45:45

in my picture on it and information about

45:47

the company . The back talks about

45:49

the services that we provide . And

45:51

then the other thing that we give to people

45:54

as well when we're working with them , is this little

45:56

thing right here and on

45:58

the back . It's a QR code and it takes them to leave

46:00

a Google review to

46:02

talk about their experience with us , and so we give both

46:04

pieces out at different times in

46:07

the kind of relationship with the client and

46:09

the life of us working

46:11

with them . But old

46:14

school works , man . You go to networking events . They're

46:16

going to want your business card , exactly

46:18

.

46:19

They're going to want it

46:22

. This is our new

46:25

business card for our band 10 cent profit and just on the back , it's just , it's

46:27

just got some . Uh , I didn't

46:29

do these , my , because they would have been a lot

46:31

better , but my bass player did them and he

46:33

just , he just put like our facebook group and

46:35

, uh , the bashcom

46:38

has our , our band , on there as

46:40

well . So , and then a phone number so they could

46:42

text or call . But , yes

46:44

, a hundred percent , all of these things

46:46

that we talked about , you

46:48

know that are local based , local

46:50

community based , like the . You

46:53

know you don't go to a networking event without

46:55

business cards . You know it

46:58

seems old school , but it

47:00

definitely works

47:02

. Or all these

47:04

companies would go out of business . So

47:06

pretty easy to design , they're relatively

47:08

cheap , and then you just have them . I

47:11

remember when

47:13

I was running the Rocky Mountain Reseller Conference

47:15

, paul

47:18

and I he was my co-creator

47:21

and we ran it together we

47:23

bought a bunch of Rocky Mountain Reseller Conference

47:25

cards and we put like get

47:28

a 10% discount . And then

47:30

when we would go to shows because

47:33

we did a lot of traveling back then we would go to

47:35

Vegas for different shows that we knew . Amazon people would be

47:37

at different shows that we knew Amazon

47:40

people would be at . I

47:42

would literally leave them in the bathrooms

47:44

, you know , in the stalls , on the toilet

47:46

paper dispensers and just everywhere I'd

47:48

go . I just put up cause they're so cheap . You know , I

47:50

just put them everywhere and hand them out as much as

47:52

I possibly could , and

47:57

who knows if it worked or not , but you

47:59

get the idea . It

48:05

can create awareness and it can also remind them of you when they're home after

48:07

the event or whatever , and they are emptying their pockets and they go . Oh yeah , that

48:09

that guy from that band man I really want

48:11

to have them at my event . Or that

48:13

you know t-shirt man , I really

48:15

do need to get some . Some shirts

48:17

for my small business . I

48:19

need to give this guy a call .

48:27

Yep , yeah , so old school . The one thing that I would do as well with welfare apparel sometimes

48:30

is gas stations . You'd put them in . It might make people mad , but you put them in a little

48:32

card reader that they have to put their card in to pay for

48:34

the gas and you just kind of leave it hanging

48:37

out there . They got to take it out if they're going gonna pay for

48:40

their gas is the thing . So , uh

48:42

, give it a shot , see what

48:45

happens ?

48:46

um , that's , that's next level man . That , yeah , that's

48:48

like , yeah , that's ninja mode right there . That's

48:50

super cool yeah

48:52

, awesome javas .

48:53

Anything else on this before we round this thing

48:55

out and bring a closed episode 203

48:58

?

48:58

yeah , I just want to reiterate um , don't

49:01

, don't be ashamed about what you do . This is awesome

49:03

. You are helping a lot of people and you know more

49:05

than you think you do . Don't be

49:07

ashamed . Tell people . You'll

49:09

be surprised . Good

49:12

things will come your way . You'll probably get

49:14

some clients or some people

49:16

that at least are asking for quotes

49:18

from you , if you just

49:20

get out of your out of your own way

49:22

and tell

49:25

people what you do .

49:32

Tell people what you can do for them . Yeah , absolutely so . Let us know how it goes . If you guys

49:34

have other questions , you can , of course , reach out to us . As Travis said previously , printromancastcom

49:37

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49:41

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49:44

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49:46

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49:48

towards in your designs and what you're going

49:50

to be selling . And so if

49:52

you haven't gotten your design calendar , by the way , you can just reply

49:55

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49:57

you and you can let us know and we'll remedy that as

49:59

well , and you get a bonus dad joke

50:01

, which I think is what people really

50:04

like is a bonus , dad joke uh

50:06

to use in your uh

50:09

social circles as well . So if you use

50:11

a dad joke in the one of these

50:13

community kind of connections uh

50:16

, chamber of commerce meetings , whatever let us

50:18

know how it goes , how many groans you get , and

50:20

then be sure to say , hey , we got a print on a mancastcom

50:23

or from print on demandcast and it's a great

50:25

podcast . So , um , thank you guys

50:27

so much for listening again . Have

50:29

a happy and safe 4th

50:31

of July . Whatever you are doing to

50:33

celebrate , we hope that it is safe and fun

50:35

celebrating , uh , our country

50:38

and freedom and uh , yeah , it's going to be a great

50:40

, great day . So until next

50:42

time for Travis , I'm Josiah , we'll see you right

50:44

here on the print on demand cast

50:47

, see ya .

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