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it done. Hello

1:23

and welcome to psychic teachers. I'm

1:25

your host Samantha Fay. I'm Deb

1:27

Bowen. And we're so excited to be

1:29

with you this week. We're going to

1:32

be talking about what is going on

1:34

with these New Jersey drones that have

1:36

been spotted now all over, not just

1:39

New Jersey. So we're going to

1:41

dive into some conspiracy theories, the

1:43

mystery, and of course, some facts.

1:46

But before we start, Deb, I

1:48

have to share a funny story.

1:50

So as I was telling you

1:52

before we hit record, I'm having

1:55

my bathroom redone, which has turned

1:57

into what, six, eight weeks of

1:59

chaos. you say? At least.

2:01

At least. So the guys are

2:04

coming today to put my glass

2:06

shower doors, whatever, in and of

2:08

course it's the exact time they're

2:10

walking in as you and I

2:12

are supposed to record. So I

2:15

rush out to introduce myself and

2:17

show them where everything is. And

2:19

one of the guys smells like

2:21

Deb Bowen. And I was like,

2:24

I swear, are you wearing pajuli?

2:26

And he goes, yeah. And I

2:28

was like, oh. So he's walking

2:30

in and I'm like, hey, if

2:32

you guys are done, like, you

2:35

know, earlier than you thought, I'm

2:37

going to be hidden away in

2:39

this little room over here recording

2:41

a podcast. And Deb, I never

2:44

say that. If people are here

2:46

and I'm recording, I always say

2:48

like, oh, I have a Zoom

2:50

meeting because if I say I'm

2:53

recording a podcast, what is their

2:55

question? What's the podcast? Yes, but

2:57

because this guy smelled like you,

2:59

I felt comfortable. And so I

3:01

said, I'm recording a podcast and

3:04

he said, what's the podcast? And

3:06

I said, psychic teachers and he

3:08

said, no way, I'm so into

3:10

that stuff. Of course he is,

3:13

he's wearing but chilly oil. So

3:15

then we had a nice conversation

3:17

about what he thinks the New

3:19

Jersey drones are, but it reminded

3:21

me, I remember earlier on the

3:24

show, and I used to always

3:26

say, if someone's wearing like a

3:28

clear quartz or a rose quartz

3:30

or an amethyst around their neck,

3:33

I feel like it's a sign

3:35

that they're one of our people.

3:37

Yeah, and there was a time

3:39

when that was absolutely true. Yeah,

3:41

yeah. Well, now we have another

3:44

sign to recognize a member of

3:46

our metaphysical woo-bo-boo tribe. We should

3:48

have asked him where he got

3:50

his but Julie and sent him

3:53

down to Eva down to Earth,

3:55

you know That's true, but I

3:57

didn't want to be late for

3:59

I know I hear you know

4:02

while we're on that subject real

4:04

quickly My niece gave my great

4:06

niece a sodalite piece of jewelry

4:08

for Christmas. Oh, and wow and

4:10

she's like free He's the one

4:13

you're going to pass your cards

4:15

on to. Maybe. Maybe at the

4:17

sign. It could be. All right,

4:19

let's talk about drones. We'll talk

4:22

about crystals in another week. Yes.

4:24

OK, so it all began in

4:26

November with a hum, barely audible

4:28

over the rustle of the Jersey

4:30

shore's salty breeze. At first, the

4:33

community dismissed them as local hobbyist

4:35

testing new toys, but as the

4:37

drone sightings grew more frequent and

4:39

reports poured in from neighboring towns,

4:42

the mystery deepened. especially since the

4:44

drones were mainly spotted over Picatinny

4:46

Arsenal, a 6,400 square-acre U.S. military

4:48

research and manufacturing facility in Morris

4:50

County, New Jersey. The sheriff of

4:53

Mammoth County said, these observations over

4:55

the Arsenal by military personnel there

4:57

and at naval weapon stations are

4:59

concerning. These accounts are of sophisticated

5:02

movements by larger objects ranging in

5:04

6 to 7 foot in radius,

5:06

moving pretty fast, and sometimes shutting

5:08

out their lights and traveling at

5:11

a rapid pace. A drone pilot

5:13

from New Jersey claims his device

5:15

lost power and had to descend

5:17

from restricted airspace while he was

5:19

flying near the Picatinny Arsenal. He

5:22

said, there was a drone just

5:24

hanging out. I had full battery

5:26

life. Not three minutes into the

5:28

flight, I lost control of the

5:31

drone. He told Fox Five reporters

5:33

he was flying his drone near

5:35

the Arsenal when a warning flashed

5:37

across his screen and the battery

5:39

died suddenly. My drone started going

5:42

down, dead battery, he said. Despite

5:44

his drone descending, the unknown device

5:46

he was investigating remained airborne, making

5:48

us wonder, how did that unidentified

5:51

drone stay up in the air?

5:53

Did it cause this man's drone

5:55

to lose power? Doesn't that remind

5:57

you of like a paranormal investigation

5:59

team? Yeah, it does. And I

6:02

just need to do a caveat

6:04

for our listeners here. My knowledge

6:06

of drones. to do with people

6:08

flying them out over the ocean

6:11

and taking pretty pictures of the

6:13

waves. And they're these little things

6:15

that look like, you know, toys

6:17

that kids have. That's what I

6:19

think of when you say drone

6:22

to me. And then I learned

6:24

from a friend of ours, and

6:26

you know about this because you

6:28

went to watch them, that now

6:31

they do like, instead of fireworks,

6:33

they do these drone light show

6:35

things in. like at Christmas this

6:37

year, I think I have. Yeah,

6:40

it was so cool and they

6:42

form into all sorts of shapes

6:44

like Santa in his sleigh, Christmas

6:46

trees and jingle bells jingling. I

6:48

don't understand any of that and

6:51

of course I didn't go see

6:53

it so I really don't understand

6:55

it. But this conversation and what

6:57

we're talking about here today, when

7:00

you say six to seven feet,

7:02

I'm thinking this is like, like

7:04

I have a friend who does

7:06

model airplanes but big ones, you

7:08

know, several feet in size. And

7:11

that's what this sounds like to

7:13

me. Yeah, yeah, well the drones

7:15

that have been spotted are described

7:17

as sleek black machines as large

7:20

as SUVs. And what's weird is

7:22

some of them have like bright

7:24

red and green lights and seem

7:26

to operate with a purpose. Some

7:28

of them are silent. Some of

7:31

them make noise. Some have been

7:33

witnessed flying and coordinated formations over

7:35

highways, farmland, forest. So they're definitely

7:37

different than your average drone. I'm

7:40

just blown away by this whole

7:42

story, but I agree. She'll go

7:44

ahead. I am too. Sergeant Kevin

7:46

Fennicy of the Ocean County Sheriff's

7:49

Office said they verified that the

7:51

crafts weren't planes by checking flight

7:53

radar that tracks in real time

7:55

what jets and planes are in

7:57

the sky. This allows them to

8:00

rule out commercial planes, private planes,

8:02

medical evacuation helicopters, and most military

8:04

planes. Since witnesses claimed the drones

8:06

were scanning the ground with faint

8:09

green beams of light, while others

8:11

swore they They saw them communicating

8:13

via flashes of their lights like

8:15

silent fireflies. The drones are often

8:17

seen accompanied by large floating orbs.

8:20

They're quiet and low flying. New

8:22

Jersey Police Chief Joseph Orlando described

8:24

the drones as bigger than a

8:26

standard SUV and much larger than

8:29

the standard drones available for amateur

8:31

flyers. He pointed out that the

8:33

drones have been spotted hovering over

8:35

critical infrastructure, such as water reservoirs,

8:37

electric transmission lines, police departments, and

8:40

military installations. He said, while we

8:42

currently have no evidence or information

8:44

to indicate these drones pose an

8:46

imminent threat at this time, their

8:49

presence appears nefarious in nature. Remember,

8:51

I'm not sure, maybe two or

8:53

three years ago, there was the

8:55

whole big thing about the balloons

8:58

over Montana? Yeah. Crickets, right? Crickets.

9:00

Yeah, I was in the plane.

9:02

Remember I was flying back from

9:04

Colorado? And the spy balloon was

9:06

over South Carolina, so we just

9:09

had to circle around and around

9:11

and around until the airspace was

9:13

cleared. I had forgotten that, but

9:15

now that you say it, yes,

9:18

I, yeah, wow. No follow up

9:20

on that. Nope, none. There's not

9:22

going to be on this, mark

9:24

my words. I'm sure you're right,

9:26

but proceed. One family in Moore's

9:29

County who followed a drone in

9:31

their car said that as the

9:33

drone hovered above them, their cars

9:35

clock changed time and only returned

9:38

to normal as they drove off.

9:40

And the drones have appeared in

9:42

lots of other places other than

9:44

New Jersey. Since the first New

9:46

Jersey sightings in mid-November, Drones have

9:49

also been reported over military bases

9:51

in both the United Kingdom and

9:53

Germany. Camp Pendleton, 40 miles north

9:55

of San Diego, reported six drone

9:58

incursions in one... week last December.

10:00

And just yesterday morning, Deb, there

10:02

an article popped up in my

10:04

news feed about drones and orange

10:07

orbs in Tennessee. So this seems

10:09

to be spreading. Now, Dr. Catherine

10:11

Ramslin, a resident of Pennsylvania, told

10:13

reporters, I saw one going west.

10:15

It had red blinking lights. Another

10:18

one was coming toward it from

10:20

the west going east, and then

10:22

the westward one suddenly turned around

10:24

and went into formation with the

10:27

one going east. Its lights turned

10:29

green and then yellow. She said

10:31

it couldn't possibly have been a

10:33

plane as it was turning fast

10:35

and hovering too close, and there

10:38

wasn't any noise. In October, the

10:40

Wall Street Journal reported that mysterious

10:42

drones were seen for 17 days

10:44

near U.S. military facilities in Virginia.

10:47

In late November, drones were spotted

10:49

over three U.S. air bases in

10:51

the U.K. and they were also

10:53

reported near the Ramstein U.S. military

10:55

air base in Germany in early

10:58

December. News reporter Rich McHugh described

11:00

them as looking like you or

11:02

V-shaped fixed-wing aircraft about 8 to

11:04

10 feet wide with colorful and

11:07

white-blinking lights. He said when this

11:09

story first came out as a

11:11

resident of New Jersey as a

11:13

journalist, I didn't give it much

11:16

credence. I thought it would turn

11:18

out to be a bunch of

11:20

pranksters, and this would all be

11:22

over by now. The experience I

11:24

had last night, however, changed the

11:27

way I feel about this story

11:29

completely. What I saw was more

11:31

sophisticated than I ever imagined. If

11:33

this is not our military, then

11:36

we need answers. He described the

11:38

objects as creepy and moving at

11:40

a different pace. One long branch

11:42

woman reported seeing a car-sized drone

11:44

hovering 50 feet above the tree

11:47

line, and the Ocean County Sheriff's

11:49

Department said the drones do not

11:51

emit heat like regular drones, which

11:53

is why they're able to evade

11:56

detection. And in fact, we have

11:58

several reports of these drones encounters

12:00

from law enforcement. Sheriff Mike... Michael

12:02

Master Donnie, I'm not sure I'm

12:04

saying the same right. Master Nardee.

12:07

Thank you, told news outlets that

12:09

his officers identified 50 drones coming

12:11

off the coast one night. He

12:13

told reporters that while airplanes on

12:16

the flight path of Newark Liberty

12:18

and John F. K. International airports

12:20

fly at an altitude of about

12:22

18,000 to 20,000 feet, these mystery

12:25

drones are flying at an altitude

12:27

of less than a thousand feet.

12:29

The police chief of Ocean

12:31

County, New Jersey, said, these

12:34

weren't the normal drones that

12:36

somebody would purchase and use.

12:38

And he also said they

12:40

were as large as an

12:42

SUV and capable of flying

12:44

in wind conditions that smaller

12:46

vehicles couldn't otherwise handle. And

12:48

this police chief of Ocean

12:50

County, New Jersey, told reporters,

12:52

what concerns us most is

12:54

that at this point, No

12:56

one has seen any of

12:58

these units taking off or

13:00

landing. He said his officers

13:02

were tracking one drone when

13:04

it simply shut its lights

13:06

off and disappeared. He said

13:08

they have a videotape of

13:10

a drone going around and

13:12

around and traveling at a

13:14

speed of 60 miles per

13:16

hour or more. He said

13:18

his drones for his department

13:20

travel in about 40 miles

13:22

an hour. An island beach

13:24

state park police officer reported

13:26

seeing 50 drones. come ashore

13:28

from the ocean. New Jersey

13:30

State Police Officer Colonel Pat

13:32

Callahan told state lawmakers that

13:34

they sent a helicopter up

13:36

after one of the crafts,

13:38

which was six feet in

13:40

diameter, and that as soon

13:42

as the helicopter was over

13:44

the craft, the drone turned

13:46

off its lights. Assemblyman Paul

13:48

Kinetra saw the drones as

13:50

they hovered over Menefsgren Inlet.

13:52

He said they moved left,

13:54

right, up and down. and

13:56

we're too low at altitude

13:58

to be planes. hovering is

14:00

the most telling things he said.

14:03

Whoa. What freaks me out the most

14:05

is that no one has seen these

14:07

take off for land and they have

14:09

been seen coming from the ocean. There

14:11

were a couple of things we've said

14:14

as we've, as we've talked about

14:16

this already, that takes me

14:18

back to close encounters of

14:20

the third kind, that movie where,

14:22

you know, the guy is driving

14:24

down the road at night. and

14:26

get stopped by a railroad and

14:29

a railroad crossing and everything in

14:31

his truck goes bananas and

14:33

all the lights. Remember that?

14:35

It's amazing. And then we reported

14:38

not long ago in an

14:40

episode that we did where

14:42

we talked about unidentified submerged

14:45

objects of things coming

14:47

towards land out of the

14:49

ocean. Yeah, and there's a lot

14:51

of theories that somehow the water

14:53

is an energy source. Who knows? I

14:56

know. All of these reports from officials

14:58

have led politicians to speak out

15:00

as well, which we found interesting.

15:03

U.S. Representative Jeff Van Drew said

15:05

that the drones were coming from

15:07

an Iranian mother ship. Do you

15:10

remember that? That was like one

15:12

of the first reports to come

15:14

out, I think towards the end

15:16

of November. I don't remember. Yeah,

15:18

and that was quickly poo-pooed,

15:21

right? Right. At that time, he said,

15:23

right now we know that there are

15:25

drones flying in from the direction of

15:28

the ocean. We also know there is

15:30

an Iranian drone mother ship that is

15:32

missing from Port in Iran, with a

15:35

timeline matching the emergence of these drones.

15:37

Whether this is a foreign adversary or

15:39

even just a group of drone hobbyists,

15:42

we cannot allow unidentified drones to operate

15:44

freely in our airspace with no consequences,

15:46

and it is time we eliminate the

15:49

threat they pose and shoot them down.

15:51

But the White House quickly threw together

15:53

a press conference in response to

15:55

state that the drones presented no

15:57

foreign threat. White House National Security

15:59

Communications... advisor John Kirby added, they

16:01

have no evidence that the reported

16:04

drone sightings pose a national security

16:06

or public safety threat. But

16:08

shortly after these reports flooded

16:10

in, the Federal Aviation Administration temporarily

16:13

banned flights over 22 areas

16:15

of New Jersey and 30

16:17

areas in New York, mostly in

16:19

and around New York City

16:21

and on Long Island, where

16:23

critical infrastructures are located. FAA officials

16:25

said federal security agencies requested

16:28

the flight restrictions, which are

16:30

effective through mid-January. The restrictions

16:32

were implemented for quote special

16:35

security reasons and are to

16:37

last through about January 17th.

16:39

Pilots breaking the ban may

16:41

be intercepted, detained, and interviewed.

16:44

The FBI, the Homeland Security

16:46

Department and state agencies

16:48

have been investigating, but

16:50

officials say there's nothing...

16:52

There's been nothing so far to

16:54

suggest any drones have posed a

16:57

national security or public safety threat.

16:59

Authorities say many of the drone

17:01

sightings are legal drones, manned aircraft,

17:03

helicopters, and even stars. However, about

17:06

a hundred of the more than

17:08

5,000 drone sightings reported to the

17:10

FBI were deemed credible enough to

17:13

warrant more investigation, according to a

17:15

joint statement by the Department of

17:17

Homeland Security, FBI, FAA, and Department

17:19

of Defense. So there's definitely something

17:22

to these sightings that we need

17:24

to know more about. The White House

17:26

keeps saying nothing to see here,

17:28

folks. emphatically stating that they are

17:31

not a threat. However, many state

17:33

and local officials are crying out

17:35

for stricter rules about who can

17:37

fly unmanned aircraft, even asking for

17:39

the authority to shoot them

17:41

down. Local officials have questioned how

17:43

the government can say there is

17:45

no danger if they don't know

17:47

the origin or flight path of

17:49

these drones. Exactly. How can you say that

17:52

if you don't know? Yeah, I totally

17:54

agree. This reminds me of the whole

17:56

swamp gas. Explanation. Remember from Project Blue

17:58

Book back in the 50... I do.

18:00

Our federal government can track and

18:03

disable drones deemed to be threatening,

18:05

but many local officials are saying

18:07

these drones are impervious to this

18:09

kind of tracking. Governor Larry Hogan

18:12

said he saw what appeared to

18:14

be dozens of drones over his

18:16

home in Davidsonville. New Jersey Governor

18:19

Phil Murphy has said drone detection

18:21

equipment supplied by the federal government

18:23

has yielded little new information. He

18:25

declined to describe the equipment except

18:28

to say it was powerful and

18:30

could even disable the drones, though

18:32

he noted that it's not legal

18:34

on US soil. Murphy urged Congress

18:37

to give states more authority to

18:39

deal with the drones. He wrote

18:41

a letter to President Biden on

18:44

December 12th stating, while I am

18:46

sincerely grateful for your administration's leadership

18:48

in addressing this concerning issue, it

18:50

has become apparent that more resources

18:53

are needed to fully understand what

18:55

is behind this activity. You must

18:57

insist that the Biden administration immediately

19:00

provide the necessary tools and resources

19:02

to protect our state. including the

19:04

authority to neutralize any drone that

19:06

poses a threat to our residents.

19:09

He ended the letter writing, residents

19:11

deserve more concrete information. New York

19:13

Governor Kathy Hoechel on December 15th

19:15

said, federal officials are sending a

19:18

drone detection system to her state,

19:20

but argued Congress should give the

19:22

state the power to deal directly

19:25

with the drones. After the Stewart

19:27

airfield had to close its runways

19:29

for an hour due to drone

19:31

activity, she said this has gone

19:34

too far. And then New Jersey

19:36

Senator Andy Kim posted several videos

19:38

of the drones to his ex-account

19:41

he recorded while he was out

19:43

with police on December 12th at

19:45

night and described them doing maneuvers

19:47

that are uncharacteristic of planes. Connecticut

19:50

State Senator Tony Wang said the

19:52

drone sightings over Fairfield and Connecticut

19:54

were definitely unauthorized drones and needed

19:57

to be shot down. Michael Melham

19:59

the mayor of Belleville New Jersey

20:01

said the The state's office of

20:03

emergency management urged him to immediately

20:06

call the county bomb squad if

20:08

there is a down drone nearby,

20:10

and that the fire department was

20:12

instructed to wear hazmat suits around

20:15

any fallen drone, saying it's unclear

20:17

if the drones have a payload.

20:19

U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal said, we

20:22

should be doing some very urgent

20:24

intelligent analysis and take them out

20:26

of the skies, especially if they're

20:28

flying over airports and military bases.

20:31

Pentagon spokesperson Major General Pat Reiter

20:33

said, it's unlikely the drones are

20:35

engaged in intelligence gathering. He repeated

20:38

Tuesday that the drones being reported

20:40

or not being operated by the

20:42

Department of Defense, and went on

20:44

to say there are no military

20:47

operations, no military drone, or experiment

20:49

operations in this corridor. And just

20:51

before Christmas, the drones led to

20:54

an hour-long closure of the runways

20:56

at New York Stewart International Airport

20:58

located just an hour north of

21:00

Manhattan. And the airspace over Wright-Patterson

21:03

Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio,

21:05

led to a four-hour closure. Why

21:07

is this interesting? Well, let's remind

21:09

you that it's rumored the debris

21:12

from the Roswell crash back in

21:14

1947 was allegedly transferred to this

21:16

space. Some even suggest that a

21:19

living extraterrestrial found at that crash

21:21

site was also housed at this

21:23

base until he later died. Currently,

21:25

Wright-Patterson houses research and technological facilities.

21:28

And most recently, two men in

21:30

Boston were arrested for flying a

21:32

drone too close to the Logan

21:35

International Airport. But that's as far

21:37

as anyone has gone to really

21:39

stop any of these drone incursions.

21:41

There just hasn't been any... interactions

21:44

and interventions done to check out

21:46

who's flying these these aircraft which

21:48

I find mind-boggling. I find all

21:51

of this mind-boggling but wait I

21:53

have to I have to back

21:55

up here. There's something that you

21:57

just said like you were rattling

22:00

off your grocery list. Hang on,

22:02

I have to tell you. I

22:04

didn't know about the Dayton Ohio

22:06

Air Force Base thing having to

22:09

do with Roswell and that there

22:11

had potentially been a living extraterrestrial

22:13

who was found. Oh, you don't

22:16

know. I think they nicknamed it

22:18

Eben. Okay. Clearly we are going

22:20

to have folks who are going

22:22

to say, are you going to

22:25

do an episode about that at

22:27

some point? And I think the

22:29

answer might need to be yes.

22:32

Okay, do you want me to

22:34

tell you that we kind of

22:36

have? I truly don't remember this,

22:38

this, okay, then folks in that

22:41

case, do what Samantha said and

22:43

go back and look. No, I

22:45

think we covered it briefly when

22:48

we did our unsolved mystery show

22:50

on the 37th parallel. Do you

22:52

remember that one where that, yeah,

22:54

but we could do a whole

22:57

show just on what? is going

22:59

on at Wright-Patterson because there's a

23:01

lot there. All right, let's take

23:03

a quick break and when we

23:06

come back we'll talk about official

23:08

calls to have these drones shot

23:10

down or at least taken more

23:13

seriously. Stay with us, we'll be

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24:39

folks. So many officials, including Democratic

24:42

Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, also

24:44

called for the drones to be

24:46

shot down. He said we should

24:49

be doing some very urgent intelligence

24:51

analysis and take them out of

24:54

the skies. especially if they're flying

24:56

over airports and military bases. A

24:58

Senate bill that would expand federal

25:01

agencies' authority to track and disable

25:03

drones has been pending since last

25:05

year. It also includes a pilot

25:08

program that would allow state and

25:10

local law enforcement agencies to monitor

25:13

and disabled drones under supervision by

25:15

federal authorities. A similar bill in

25:17

the House was introduced last June.

25:20

but it hasn't been approved yet.

25:22

After the drones were spotted over

25:24

Staten Island, Vito Facella, the Staten

25:27

Island Borough President, said, it's odd

25:29

and quite bizarre that nobody can

25:32

figure out who is flying these

25:34

drones where they are coming from

25:36

and their purpose. You know, there

25:39

was a saying that we had

25:41

after 9-11. If you see something,

25:43

say something, say something. don't worry

25:46

about it. We saw it too

25:48

and the people of Staten Island

25:51

deserve answers and the people of

25:53

the city and state and region

25:55

deserve answers of what the heck

25:58

is going on. He went on

26:00

to say that while officials keep

26:02

stating that these drones pose no

26:05

threat to us, at least one

26:07

related incident may have delayed medevac

26:10

transport of a seriously injured car

26:12

wreck victim when one of these

26:14

unknown drones temporarily blocked the airspace.

26:17

of the Medevac helicopter. And that's

26:19

just not right, you know? No,

26:21

it's not. I mean, if that

26:24

was a known air aircraft of

26:26

some sort, they would have gotten

26:29

in a lot of trouble for

26:31

that. Even though some officials are

26:33

calling for these drones to be

26:36

shot down, there have been no

26:38

credible reports of this happening. On

26:40

December 13th, there were reports going

26:43

around that a drone crashed in

26:45

Hillsborough, New Jersey. Tiktakers allegedly posted

26:47

videos of officials in hazmat suits

26:50

attending the site, but authorities denied

26:52

this, releasing a statement that read,

26:55

all units cleared after a complete

26:57

search of the area was concluded

26:59

and no down drone was recovered.

27:02

There was no known threat to

27:04

the public to report. According to

27:06

police, the report of a drone

27:09

crash came from a Lowe's parking

27:11

lot around 830 p.m. Thursday night.

27:14

There's even a supposed video of

27:16

the crash anonymously posted across YouTube

27:18

X and other social media sites

27:21

that show flames and smoke emerging

27:23

from the side of a road.

27:25

The poster said there was like

27:28

a craft that crashed out of

27:30

the sky. It was crazy. I

27:33

don't know what's going on. Several

27:35

first responders, including local and county

27:37

police and fire crews, searched the

27:40

area on foot in air, but

27:42

were unable to locate the drone.

27:44

Millstone Valley Fire Department deployed drones

27:47

the next morning, and Somerset County

27:49

hazmat conducted another ground search, but

27:52

no drones were found. Another drone

27:54

supposedly crashed in Moorestown, but was

27:56

determined to be a... hobbyist drone.

27:59

Shortly after the crash, Mayor Ryan

28:01

heard arrived at the scene to

28:03

personally investigate, while he confirmed that

28:06

the aircraft wasn't one of the

28:08

SUV-sized drones people have been seen,

28:11

he maintained, quote, nobody knows

28:13

whose drones are flying over us and

28:15

what they're flying over us and where

28:17

they're taking off and landing. Drones are

28:19

flying over our houses, which are our

28:21

private property. My family is here. He

28:23

strongly urged people to stop flying their

28:26

own drones. We can't be putting up

28:28

class one and class two drones trying

28:30

to follow these things around, he told

28:32

the post. God forbid something happens and

28:34

it crashes into the big drone and

28:36

the big drone crashes into a house

28:38

and kills six people. That's going to

28:40

be a problem. Now some of the

28:42

drones recently followed a Coast Guard

28:44

ship. New Jersey Representative Chris Smith

28:47

interviewed the highly trained Coast Guard

28:49

officers himself. He said the officers

28:51

recounted to him how their boat

28:53

was followed by 12 to 30

28:55

drones about 100 feet away from

28:57

Island Beach State Park. They said

29:00

the drones had wingspans of four to

29:02

eight feet and that they flashed their

29:04

lights on and off at the ship.

29:06

When the boat made a turn, the

29:08

drones made the same turn and

29:10

traveled silently with no propeller sound

29:12

at 20 knots or 23 miles

29:15

per hour keeping up with the

29:17

speed of the speed of the

29:19

ship. Once again, the federal government

29:21

dismissed these sightings saying, while no

29:23

immediate threats or disruptions to operations

29:25

were identified, the Coast Guard is

29:27

assisting the FBI and state agencies

29:30

to understand the type, origin and

29:32

intent of these aircraft and address

29:34

potential risks to safety and security,

29:36

concluding their statement by saying that

29:38

the drones may have been flown

29:41

by hobbyists, could be planes or

29:43

just brightly lit stars. which prompted

29:45

one Coast Guard member to tell

29:47

the New York Post, it's the

29:49

implication that's insulting. It's implying we're

29:51

making shit up when the ones

29:54

making shit up are down in

29:56

Washington. That guy sounds mad, right? But you

29:58

can't blame him. I mean, he's a... highly

30:00

trained Coast Guard member, he

30:02

knows what he saw. And officials

30:05

are saying, oh, you

30:07

probably saw a star. Right. A

30:09

member of the crew who witnessed the

30:11

drones that night said, the drones appeared

30:14

out of nowhere at about 9 p.m.

30:16

and followed the boat for approximately 15

30:18

minutes. When the vessel shifted cores, so

30:21

too did the drones. The swarm was

30:23

about 80 to 100 feet above us.

30:25

They had four propellers, seven feet across.

30:28

The flashing lights were green, red, and

30:30

white. Commercial airplanes don't move like that.

30:32

I've been out there on the water

30:34

when planes were coming in for landings

30:36

in New York and trust me, you

30:38

can tell the difference. We're not idiots.

30:40

We know what drones look and sound

30:43

like." To this White House

30:45

National Security spokesman John Kirby

30:47

said, our assessment at this

30:49

stage is that the activity

30:51

represents commercial hobbyist law enforcement

30:53

drones all operating legally unlawful

30:55

and or civilian aviation aircraft,

30:57

which to put in layman's

30:59

turn means nothing to see

31:01

here folks. Back to your tick-talk

31:03

and scrolling, right? President Joe

31:05

Biden dismissed conspiracy theories surrounding the rash

31:08

of drone sightings, saying there's nothing nefarious

31:10

going on. He said, we're following it

31:12

closely. So far, there's no sense of

31:14

danger. Trump said that Biden administration wants

31:17

to keep people in suspense. He does

31:19

not believe the drones belong to other

31:21

countries. If it was the enemy, they

31:23

blasted out. Even if they were late,

31:25

they blast it. He said, something strange

31:27

is going on. And for some reason

31:29

they don't want to tell people, and

31:31

they should, and they should. House Speaker

31:33

Mike Johnson blasted the Biden administration's too,

31:35

saying the handling of the drone controversy

31:37

is not going well. I am the

31:39

Speaker of the House. I have the

31:41

exact same frustration that you do and

31:43

all of us do. We don't have

31:45

the answers. The administration is

31:47

not providing it. Johnson said he

31:49

set up a briefing between the

31:51

DOD, DHS, and FBI, but received

31:53

no satisfactory answers to his questions.

31:56

He told news reporters. They just say,

31:58

don't worry about it. It's not. foreign

32:00

entities. There's not a vessel

32:02

offshore doing this and they're

32:04

not collecting data. Okay, then what

32:06

is it? We've got to protect

32:08

Americans, protect our intelligence, of course,

32:11

in our data and everything else.

32:13

I have, as I am sure

32:15

many of the folks listening

32:17

to this podcast episode, have

32:19

lots of questions. I think what's

32:21

concerning me is that we don't know

32:23

what these drones are and we're

32:25

still trying to figure it out. On

32:28

December 17th... The House Intelligence Committee

32:30

had a closed-door briefing

32:32

on drones with representatives

32:35

from Justice, Defense, and

32:37

Homeland Security Departments. Representatives

32:39

Jim's Heinz from Connecticut

32:42

said lawmakers were told the drone

32:44

activity was not federal government

32:46

operations and that there was

32:48

zero evidence of laws being

32:50

broken. Pentagon spokesperson Major General

32:53

Patrick Reiter said at a

32:55

public briefing. that the drones

32:57

are not part of any

32:59

experimental military program. Defense officials,

33:01

however, say drone activity has

33:04

been commonplace at sensitive US

33:06

military sites across the country.

33:08

But the meetings did point

33:11

to a troubling issue. Foreign

33:13

adversaries now know we have

33:15

a breakdown in our response

33:18

to drones surveillance. US military

33:20

forces have the power to take

33:22

down drones that penetrate airspace. over

33:24

a base and pose a threat.

33:27

But if a drone is outside

33:29

that airspace, it becomes the

33:31

responsibility of local law

33:33

enforcement. That response is

33:36

often too little and too late,

33:38

or perhaps not at all, actually. And

33:40

I'm saying that. A retired

33:43

three-star general named

33:45

David Deptula, who's the

33:47

current Dean of the

33:49

Mitchell Institute for Aerospace

33:51

Studies, said Just as no

33:53

one thought about airliners causing

33:55

harm before 9-11, we need

33:57

to recognize the negative...

34:00

potential and the lethal potential

34:02

of drones that we're seeing

34:04

around the world in their

34:06

use for military and hostile

34:08

purposes. Which makes you wonder,

34:10

why are these drones hovering

34:12

over our military bases? You

34:14

know, what are they looking

34:16

for? VJ Kumar, a professor

34:18

of mechanical engineering at the

34:20

University of Pennsylvania, told Newsweek,

34:22

firstly, it's not a coincidence

34:24

that all these sightings have

34:27

been near military bases. I'll

34:29

just leave it at that.

34:31

He also pointed out that

34:33

the larger drones have reportedly

34:35

displayed the lights, which aircraft

34:37

are required to have in

34:39

U.S. airspace. If I was

34:41

an adversary, I would take

34:43

great trouble to conceal what

34:45

I was doing, he said.

34:47

So that leads me to

34:49

believe that it's not a

34:51

military power that's trying to

34:54

track the United States. What

34:56

is he saying? Is he

34:58

saying it's us? Is he

35:00

saying it's, you know, extraterrestrials,

35:02

interdimensional beings, time travelers? I

35:04

don't know. But we have

35:06

done some research and we

35:08

have some theories that we're

35:10

going to discuss next, but

35:12

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35:14

our last break and we'll

35:16

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Welcome back. Okay, let's discuss some

35:51

theories that are being floated around

35:54

about what the heck is going

35:56

on with all these drones. Now

35:58

one theory... that I found pretty

36:01

scary, was that the drones are

36:03

searching for a long-lost nuclear warhead,

36:05

gas leaks, or radioactive material. This

36:07

theory was first started by John

36:10

Ferguson, who's CEO of Saxon Aerospace.

36:12

He said if the objects are

36:14

drones, the only reason why they

36:17

would be flying and flying that

36:19

low is because they're trying to

36:21

smell something on the ground like

36:23

gas leaks or radiation. Many believe

36:26

these drones are nuclear detection units

36:28

designed to detect gamma radiation. These

36:30

drones reportedly originated in response to

36:33

threats of dirty bombs in the

36:35

Ukraine before their appearance in New

36:37

Jersey in December. Jay Anderson posted

36:39

this on Twitter or X. In

36:42

the late 2000s, he wrote the

36:44

DOD needed a response to the

36:46

threat of dirty bombs from ISIS

36:48

coming into our ports in New

36:51

York in New York in New

36:53

Jersey. They've been stocking up on

36:55

these drones for a while. Some

36:58

were deployed to Ukraine when Russia

37:00

threatened the use of dirty bombs.

37:02

They look weird because they're heavy

37:04

and have giant chiral coolers mounted,

37:07

as well as giant horn antennas

37:09

to communicate on frequencies that can't

37:11

be jammed. So what are they

37:14

doing? collecting information on how the

37:16

public will react and testing their

37:18

ability to sweep a port like

37:20

New York for dirty bombs. Jersey

37:23

was chosen because we're the closest

37:25

port to New York. But why

37:27

is the DOD silent? Again, because

37:30

in a scenario where we have

37:32

a threat of a dirty bomb

37:34

and the public doesn't yet know,

37:36

the DOD needs to know how

37:39

the public would react if these

37:41

drones were deployed to sweep a

37:43

city. Okay, so here's a question.

37:46

Why don't you just tell us?

37:48

because people do better when they

37:50

have information, I think. So I'm

37:52

just curious here. Okay, so, so

37:55

they're worried about some entity coming

37:57

in and sweeping areas for nuclear

37:59

stuff and whatever. And why don't

38:02

we just say, well, golly, what

38:04

is it the government? just like,

38:06

well, we've got these drones, we're

38:08

going to go up and check

38:11

it out. Well, I read one

38:13

report right before Christmas time that

38:15

the radiation levels that I guess

38:18

are reported online somewhere in New

38:20

York City were spiking and people

38:22

were saying, oh my gosh, there

38:24

is like a nuclear war had,

38:27

you know, dropped in the water

38:29

near here and people started to

38:31

kind of panic. So maybe they're

38:34

just trying to prevent a panic?

38:36

Okay. Because another theory is that

38:38

the drones are searching for a

38:40

lost nuclear warhead and some believe

38:43

the drones are from our government

38:45

and they're tracking nuclear fallout from

38:47

a dirty bomb that went off

38:50

or looking for biological weapons or

38:52

weapons of mass destruction. Michael Melham,

38:54

the mayor of Belleville, New Jersey,

38:56

appeared on Good Day, New York,

38:59

and gave some credence to these

39:01

theories when he said the U.S.

39:03

Nuclear Regulatory Commission had earlier in

39:06

December confirmed that a shipment of

39:08

such content had gone missing in

39:10

the state. However, officials quickly responded,

39:12

stating that the missing object is

39:15

an echard and ziggler, H-E-G-L-O-1-3-2, a

39:17

piece of medical scanning equipment that

39:19

was being shipped for safe disposable,

39:21

and the radiation it contains rates

39:24

less than a category 3 on

39:26

the International Atomic Energy Agency scale,

39:28

which means it's unlikely to cause

39:31

permanent injury. So he came out

39:33

on the news and said, yeah,

39:35

you know, there was a report

39:37

that one of these had gone

39:40

missing and then officials quickly were

39:42

like, no, it was this other

39:44

thing and gave us a bunch

39:47

of letters and numbers to confuse

39:49

us. It just feels like they're

39:51

treating us as though we're silly

39:53

and unintelligent, and don't understand these

39:56

words. I am one of them

39:58

in some ways. I... I don't

40:00

always understand all of what has

40:03

been going on here other than

40:05

to know not knowing is scary.

40:07

Yeah, yeah, and we can handle

40:09

the truth. Sorry, Jack Nicholson, but

40:12

we can. We can. Another theory

40:14

that began after some witnesses said

40:16

they saw the drone spraying something

40:19

on the ground as they flew

40:21

above states, that one really scared

40:23

me. There were several videos that,

40:25

you know, just homeowners eyewitnesses, videoed

40:28

and posted of these drones up

40:30

in the sky, and you could

40:32

see something coming out of the

40:35

drones. And so a lot of

40:37

people are like, what are they

40:39

spraying? Some people believe that these

40:41

are advanced drones and they're beaming

40:44

down space-based lasers to control our

40:46

mind or manipulate physiology causing illness.

40:48

Now you might look at that

40:51

and go, well, that's weird, but

40:53

the government has done that before

40:55

back in the 1950s. So who

40:57

knows? Similar to the chemtrel's theories

41:00

from long ago, which said chemical

41:02

agents were being sprayed to poison

41:04

or manipulate the general population, this

41:07

theory believes that the drones are

41:09

releasing some type of biological agent.

41:11

A very sinister and kind of

41:13

weird theory that's gaining unpopularity is

41:16

connected to Project Bluebeam. which is

41:18

a 1990s-born concept that claims technology

41:20

will be used to deceive the

41:23

public and fake an alien invasion

41:25

to control the world. First introduced

41:27

in the 1990s by Canadian journalist,

41:29

Serge Monast, Project Blooming claims global

41:32

elites will destabilize society by staging

41:34

and unleashing massive supernatural events, alien

41:36

invasions, holographic displays of cultural and

41:39

religious figures, mind control, and faked

41:41

crises, and capitalize on the hysteria

41:43

to implement a new world order.

41:45

According to the theory, advanced holographic

41:48

technology would be used to project

41:50

images of religious figures or extraterrestrial

41:52

invasions in the sky tailored to

41:54

specific cultural beliefs. These phenomena would

41:57

aim to deceive populations, creating global

41:59

pan- and dismantling existing religious and

42:01

social structures. They even have outlined

42:04

this theory in all sorts of

42:06

stages, like first with the natural

42:08

disasters and then the holographic projections,

42:10

and then even like a unifying

42:13

God figure speaking to all people.

42:15

And then finally it says that

42:17

technology would manipulate our thoughts and

42:20

create the illusion of direct communication

42:22

with these deities and simulate an

42:24

alien invasion to justify authoritarian control.

42:26

Now that sounds way out there,

42:29

doesn't it? It is beyond way

42:31

out there. Yeah, it's like beyond

42:33

even a Twilight Zone episode. But

42:36

then I listen to this really

42:38

fun and humorous and uplifting podcast

42:40

called Fly on the Wall with

42:42

David Spade. And I just love

42:45

it. And I'm listening to it

42:47

over the break. They have Dr.

42:49

Stephen Greer on. And I'm like,

42:52

wait, this isn't really happy or

42:54

uplifting. Dr. Stephen Greer is a

42:56

prominent figure in the UFO community

42:58

and he might agree with this

43:01

belief because he was on a

43:03

lot of different news outlets and

43:05

like I said I heard him

43:08

on fly-in-the-wall to say that the

43:10

mysterious light seen worldwide with these

43:12

drones are part of a staged

43:14

operation to trick the public into

43:17

believing an alien invasion is happening.

43:19

He told Joe Rogan that the

43:21

supposed alien invasion is a diversion

43:24

to hide the real truth about

43:26

extraterrestrial encounters, which he alleges have

43:28

been occurring for several decades. According

43:30

to him, alien technology has been

43:33

transferred to U.S. weapons manufacturers who

43:35

have initiated an operation to cover

43:37

up the conspiracy. He says we

43:40

have a team of about six

43:42

different black sites that have been

43:44

running illegal projects related to so-called

43:46

UAPs and UFOs. Coming forward in

43:49

the next month or so, he

43:51

said, they will bring forth positive

43:53

evidence of this and the fact

43:56

that these programs have been run

43:58

illegally and outside of constitutional oversight.

44:00

It's a bold claim. But it

44:02

chimes with several other experts' forecast

44:05

that early 2025 will mark a

44:07

significant shift in public disclosures about

44:09

UFOs. Ross Coulthard, a prominent figure

44:12

in the UFO disclosure movement, predicts

44:14

that all hell is going to

44:16

break loose in early 2025, saying

44:18

that this drama may come to

44:21

be seen as the calm before

44:23

the storm. Of course,

44:25

we have to remind you here

44:27

of something President Ron Reagan said

44:30

in a 1987 speech. He says,

44:32

quote, in our obsession with antagonisms

44:34

of the moment, we often forget

44:37

how much unites all members of

44:39

humanity. Perhaps we need some outside

44:41

universal threat to make us recognize

44:44

this common bond. I occasionally think

44:46

how quickly our differences worldwide would

44:48

vanish if we were facing an

44:51

alien threat from outside this world.

44:53

And yet I ask you, is

44:55

not an alien force already among

44:57

us? What could be more alien

45:00

to the universal aspirations of our

45:02

peoples than war and the threat

45:04

of war? Okay, so before we

45:07

move on to our next theory,

45:09

what do you think of all

45:11

that, Deb? You know, as I'm

45:14

reading this material that you have

45:16

given us here from the fly

45:18

on the wall comment, Dr. Stephen

45:21

Greer, I think good golly. Is

45:23

this really true? Is it possible?

45:25

Is it possible? as out there

45:28

as it seems. There's so much

45:30

we don't know. There's so many

45:32

pieces to a gigantic puzzle about

45:34

various branches of not just the

45:37

US government, but all governments and

45:39

all the stuff that goes on

45:41

that we don't have a clue

45:44

what it's all about. And I

45:46

wonder as we approach this year,

45:48

which is a nine year, by

45:51

the way, please notice, 2025 resonates

45:53

to the number nine, which is

45:55

about conclusion and wrapping some stuff

45:58

up. And as the US government

46:00

has been moving closer and closer

46:02

to disclosure of about UFO and

46:05

UAPs, is that right? Yes. Then

46:07

maybe this sentence is true. Maybe

46:09

in fact there will be so

46:11

much more disclosure coming in this

46:14

next year. You know what's weird

46:16

when you just said UFO UAP,

46:18

that has changed. Like first we

46:21

said UFO, which meant unidentified flying

46:23

object. Then they told us, no,

46:25

you have to call it UAP,

46:28

which they said stood for unidentified

46:30

aerial phenomenon. Right. Now that all

46:32

of this is coming in and

46:35

out of the oceans, now they

46:37

tell us, no, no, no, we

46:39

were wrong. UAP means unidentified anomalous

46:41

phenomenon. Oh, to include the USOs.

46:44

Yeah. Right. Isn't that interesting? Yeah,

46:46

it is. Now of course some

46:48

people are speculating that this is

46:51

all the work of China. As

46:53

we mentioned earlier in the show

46:55

when the Chinese spy balloon was

46:58

spotted back in early 2023, flying

47:00

at a high altitude across the

47:02

United States. Even though the balloon

47:05

was nearly 150 feet in diameter,

47:07

it took a while for the

47:09

U.S. Air Force to shoot it

47:12

down off the coast of South

47:14

Carolina and over in Montana as

47:16

Deb mentioned. Well some believe this

47:18

is a continuation of that. Many

47:21

points the November 30th arrest of

47:23

a Northern California man who was

47:25

charged with flying a drone over

47:28

and taking pictures of the Vandenberg

47:30

Space Force Base located near Santa

47:32

Barbara. The man was a 39

47:35

year old Chinese national and was

47:37

arrested just before he boarded a

47:39

flight to China. The overwhelming belief

47:42

about these drones, some believe, points

47:44

to aliens. YouTubeers CJ Fazen posted

47:46

videos showing the drones emerging from

47:49

the ocean. He hired a yacht

47:51

from his friend just before Christmas

47:53

stating, we're going to run up

47:55

and down the coastline all night

47:58

long, and we're just going to

48:00

see what we can find. It

48:02

didn't take him long. Within 10

48:05

minutes of leaving the New Jersey

48:07

shore, he spotted five inexplicable lights

48:09

in the... sky. CJ Cross referenced

48:12

the objects he saw with the

48:14

flight radar app. The app provides

48:16

the locations of civilian and most

48:19

military aircraft nearby, but no listed

48:21

flights were in the area at

48:23

the time. Among his numerous peculiar

48:25

sightings was a small bright speck

48:28

of light, seemingly an object at

48:30

a very high altitude that moved

48:32

back and forth in the sky.

48:35

The vessel skipper, Ricky, was skeptical

48:37

about the presence of a helicopter

48:39

flying a chopper that high over

48:42

the ocean in the early hours,

48:44

despite the craft displaying the green

48:46

and red lights required by the

48:49

FAA. And CJ suggested that these

48:51

mysterious craft are using the lights

48:53

as a disguise to mimic ordinary

48:56

planes. Another strange idea to evolve

48:58

out of this phenomenon is centered

49:00

on the orbs seen alongside these

49:02

drones. Some witnesses say these orbs

49:05

are coming out of the drones,

49:07

while other eyewitnesses believe the orbs

49:09

are fighting the drones. Videos have

49:12

emerged showing drones attempting to engage

49:14

with these orbs only to malfunction

49:16

or crash upon contact, fueling speculation

49:19

that these orbs represent something far

49:21

beyond human technology, possibly even a

49:23

form of nonhuman intelligence. But these

49:26

videos cause further confusion with the

49:28

lack of clarity between artificial drones,

49:30

UAPs, and orbs. One person said,

49:33

the real phenomenon are the orbs,

49:35

not the drones. The drones are

49:37

military. The government either infested the

49:39

skies with drones to take the

49:42

public's focus away from the orbs,

49:44

which are being spotted much more

49:46

rarely than the drones, or to

49:49

use the drones for surveillance of

49:51

the orbs or both. And here's

49:53

something odd. Back in August, a

49:56

former NASA astronaut encountered mysterious metallic

49:58

orbs while flying a private plane.

50:00

Leroy Chau, who was a commander

50:03

on the International Space Station, had

50:05

a near collision with unidentified flying

50:07

objects. in the panhandle of Texas

50:09

in August as he was flying

50:12

from Colorado in a small airplane.

50:14

He said, I was about 9,000

50:16

feet in the air and suddenly,

50:19

out of nowhere, these two big

50:21

metallic spherical orbs, one on top

50:23

of the other, about three feet

50:26

in diameter, each one zipping by

50:28

the left side of my airplane

50:30

right underneath about 20 feet away.

50:33

He checked with the FAA, but

50:35

the unmanned aircraft was not on

50:37

the Federal Aviation Administration air traffic

50:40

control radar. The former astronaut has

50:42

flown several state-based missions before. He

50:44

said, It's hard to believe the

50:46

government doesn't know what's going on

50:49

with the drones that have been

50:51

flying in New Jersey near U.S.

50:53

military facilities. To me, he said

50:56

it seems like some kind of

50:58

a military program. It seems like

51:00

it's way too widespread and organized

51:03

to be some kind of prank,

51:05

unless somebody's got a lot of

51:07

money to spend on that. These

51:10

orbs have been seen everywhere the

51:12

drones are spotted. On the evening

51:14

of December 19th, 2024, five orbs

51:17

were filmed hovering over Victorville, California,

51:19

moving towards Apple Valley around 650

51:21

p.m. The sightings were first reported

51:23

by Marilyn Cruz, whose sun spotted

51:26

the lights while relaxing in their

51:28

back yard while relaxing in their

51:30

backyard. Another witness who saw these

51:33

orbs in Oakville, California, said the

51:35

orbs are bright and colorful and

51:37

definitely distinct from known constellations. The

51:40

object was changing colors and bounced

51:42

away just as I tried to

51:44

grab my phone to record, he

51:47

noted, emphasizing that the other stars

51:49

were obscured by fog that night.

51:51

Do you want to tell us

51:53

about the orbs in Virginia? Yeah,

51:56

happy too. They were seen by

51:58

Donna Borthwick, who recorded what she

52:00

said was a glowing... orb hovering

52:03

over her house on a Friday

52:05

night and showed news reporters videos

52:07

which show the orbs changing in

52:10

size. She said it was just

52:12

a bright white orb that didn't

52:14

move. It stayed for about an

52:17

hour and it wasn't the moon.

52:19

A witness in Delaware County posted

52:21

a video of what appears to

52:24

be a fast-moving shooting lights darting

52:26

through the clouds. And over in

52:28

England in November, an airline pilot

52:30

on the runway of Manchester Airport

52:33

spotted a spherical UAP orb that

52:35

hovered above the tarmac before zooming

52:37

into the air. when approached by

52:40

a security vehicle. The mystery deepened

52:42

after several sightings were spotted over

52:44

US air bases in the UK.

52:47

And here's something interesting. A woman

52:49

posted online that when she asked

52:51

AI what was causing the drones,

52:54

the chat box said, quote, I

52:56

speculate that the highest probably origin

52:58

of the New Jersey drones is

53:01

China with a probability of 60

53:03

to 70 percent. The drones seem

53:05

to be coming from the ocean,

53:07

which could suggest a maritime launch

53:10

platform. So what do you think?

53:12

Government conspiracy, aliens coming, China, or

53:14

amateurs with a whole lot of

53:17

good skills. And a lot of

53:19

money. And time. I mean, it's

53:21

weird, right? Well, yes, it's weird.

53:24

And I guess it's the way,

53:26

because we are so bombarded and

53:28

on such overload with news and

53:31

information and advertising and stimuli from

53:33

so many different sources electronically and

53:35

in the news and newspapers and

53:37

so forth, that that so much

53:40

that sort of glides by us

53:42

or isn't reported or isn't reported.

53:44

have or take the time to

53:47

think critically about what we're experiencing

53:49

or what our thoughts are or

53:51

what we know or what is

53:54

being told to us. It's just

53:56

too much. And I think that's

53:58

exactly what happens in a situation

54:01

like this or other situations where

54:03

it's big news, it's a big

54:05

splash, it's happening right here right

54:08

now, and then it just fades

54:10

away and it's like, oh well,

54:12

okay, that was the end of

54:14

that tune, until it's brought up

54:17

again in some other way. It's

54:19

frustrating, isn't it? It is. It

54:21

absolutely is. And that's one reason

54:24

I wanted to do this show

54:26

now, because these drone stories were

54:28

pretty big news for a couple

54:31

of weeks at the end of

54:33

November into December, and then they've

54:35

just gone away. Right. Poof. Gone.

54:38

Yeah. Bigger stuff. Right. I don't

54:40

know Samantha, but I do know

54:42

that it's fascinating. And I really

54:45

folks, just so you'll need to

54:47

know Samantha, did the research for

54:49

our discussion in this episode today.

54:51

And I appreciate all the work

54:54

you did to pull all of

54:56

these different perspectives together. Well, sure,

54:58

I just hope it reminds people

55:01

that there's a lot going on

55:03

out there. And I do feel

55:05

as though our news and the

55:08

type and amount and kind of

55:10

news that we have access to

55:12

is being filtered. You know? And

55:15

I had to really search and

55:17

click and look and really dig

55:19

for a lot of this information.

55:21

It wasn't just on the news

55:24

app as you scroll through. Right.

55:26

Which makes me go why? Why?

55:28

There are unknown aircraft hovering over

55:31

our military bases, water reservoirs. We

55:33

don't know where they're coming from.

55:35

We don't know anything about them.

55:38

And everyone's like, yeah, nothing to

55:40

see here folks. that's concerning and

55:42

I think we need to really

55:45

keep an eye on it and

55:47

I know I'm gonna focus on

55:49

these orbs because it makes me

55:52

feel like you know maybe there

55:54

is some type of big thing

55:56

going on and the orbs are

55:58

trying to help us and the

56:01

drones are doing their thing, I

56:03

don't know. Or maybe it is

56:05

just, you know, some awful thing

56:08

got lost in the ocean, you

56:10

know, some type of weapon and

56:12

the military is just trying to

56:15

find it to keep us safe.

56:17

That one wouldn't bother me. I

56:19

mean, it would bother me that

56:22

they lost a weapon. Yeah, yeah.

56:24

I know what you said. I

56:26

don't have the answer. It's fascinating.

56:29

Wow. Well, thank you guys for

56:31

coming down this rabbit hole with

56:33

us. We hope you enjoyed it.

56:35

Next week, we're going to be

56:38

much more back on topic. We're

56:40

going to be talking about crystal

56:42

you can use to help you

56:45

manifest your new year goals. We

56:47

hope you have a great week.

56:49

Look up at the skies. Let

56:52

us know what you think. And

56:54

remember to be the light for

56:56

yourself and others. Take care, everyone.

57:04

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