0:00

This is a Headgum original.

0:06

Pat, it is December

0:08

first. And my question for you is do you

0:10

expect this December to be

0:12

a normal length, a short December',

0:15

or a longer than normal December?

0:17

That's a great question.

0:19

Long. Long December. It's high December.

0:22

Yeah. Just that. It's twenty twenty two.

0:24

We've all been through so much that are just

0:26

storted notion of what time is.

0:28

Yeah. Yeah. It's it's out the window. I mean,

0:30

twenty twenty was five years long. I

0:32

vehemently disagree. The

0:34

song rules. I like the But

0:36

every December is the same length.

0:39

Everyone is thirty one days. Yeah.

0:41

It's not it's not like February. Yeah. It's not like

0:44

the groundhog isn't coming out and telling you

0:46

if it's gonna be shorter or longer and

0:48

so February can be twenty eight days, could be twenty nine

0:50

days, December', what are you suggesting? It's kind

0:53

of the most final Punch. because when

0:55

the month ends, it's not all at the end of the

0:57

Punch, at the end of the year. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

0:59

Yeah. It's the only month that

1:01

you could have a chain

1:04

of numbered construction paper rings

1:06

that you're cutting one ring off

1:08

every day counting down days to Christmas

1:10

like Even a child knows how many

1:12

days there are till the twenty fifth of the month.

1:14

And I will add, no, this

1:16

is you're you're onto something here because

1:19

I if, you know, I sell if

1:21

Christmas is coming up, really fly

1:23

on a shopping base. shopping famously.

1:26

Christmas shopping days for Christmas wind

1:28

down very quick. It's like five more days till

1:30

Christmas. Four more days till Christmas. Get those

1:33

black Fridays gonna be in a couple of weeks. And

1:35

I so I think think the gent the notion

1:37

of December, I think in the popular consciousness

1:40

is that it's actually flies by. because

1:43

because of the Christmas shopping conundrum

1:45

is my so yeah. I guess, but that said the way, this

1:47

says to me long December', I kinda just meant

1:49

because of the Yeah. Because

1:51

of the cultural climate, it just seems like time

1:54

kinda drags on, unfortunately. I don't

1:56

wanna get political here, but we

1:58

all been living a lot in December. When we're

2:00

at your first, there's either one to four to three.

2:02

Either twenty three or twenty four days

2:05

to get your shopping done people for your

2:07

loved ones. depending on whether you're

2:09

willing to go shopping on Christmas Eve or not. We haven't

2:11

even made it past the title. We're already trying

2:13

to punch up this song. haven't

2:16

even made it into the lyrics. Let's

2:18

Punch

2:18

it. We

2:35

are back with Pat

2:38

Cassels. This is Punch up the gym. The podcast

2:40

where every week we listen to one of the

2:43

greatest hits of all time. We

2:45

might love it. We might hate it. There

2:47

might be a combination of feelings about it. And then

2:49

at the end of the podcast,

2:51

we're going to play you. a better

2:53

version of the song. We're gonna make a better

2:55

version of the song -- -- Punch it right in the face. --

2:57

than ever existed before. Thanks thanks

2:59

for coming on, Pat. Thanks for having me. It's great to

3:01

be here. Pat Cassels. Welcome to

3:03

the show. Pat is former

3:07

head writer of college

3:09

or an entire college of humor. He was the head

3:11

writer of it. Then he went and he wrote

3:13

on full frontal with Samantha Beat. This is

3:15

an incredible pair of credentials that we are

3:17

blessed, truly blessed to have you on the

3:19

pod. Thanks for being here. No.

3:21

I'm great to be here, man. We I've known you guys

3:23

a long time. It's great to see you again. Post

3:25

COVID, what is it that you

3:28

like or dislike so much about

3:30

the song long

3:31

December'. Other than the fact

3:33

that we've arrived at December and now you're

3:35

just thinking about this song a lot because of the word

3:37

December'. Mhmm. What is it that

3:40

begged you to bring this song to the

3:42

pod? You know, it's funny listening

3:45

to it now in twenty twenty two,

3:48

I think at the time, I don't

3:51

think I was in nineteen ninety one. Was

3:53

it three or four or five or something? I

3:55

I couldn't say I was, like, specifically Counting

3:57

Crows fan, but they were so ubiquitous. You kind of

3:59

just were by osmosis. What I really I

4:01

think the thing I liked about it the most And

4:03

the reason I wanted to talk about it is I think

4:05

it's kind of It in

4:08

this sort of subgenre of

4:10

music that I feel like it was

4:12

never properly defined, but it was really

4:14

big back then -- Mhmm. -- which is kind of

4:16

like, I the only term I can come up with is,

4:18

like, sort of soft grudge. Oh,

4:21

yeah. Well, I mean, for the I think the term

4:23

even at the time, which is

4:25

very funny, is alternative.

4:28

Yes. There was the whole category of records

4:31

in the Sam Goody that

4:33

was just labeled as alternative

4:36

rock and -- Yeah. -- it became

4:38

the biggest genre in that in that,

4:40

like, sort of, like, in between era of, like, between

4:42

Grunge and Pop or whatever or or whatever.

4:44

We're, like, alternative was so big that that

4:46

in many areas of the country, that's, like, the biggest

4:49

section of the record store. Right. Right.

4:51

So it's not a big definition. It's not

4:53

alternative. Alternative to what?

4:55

Yeah. but it was alternative to Counting. Hard

4:59

rock or the hair metal of the eighties.

5:01

What I think? Or just alternative to top

5:03

forty? And I but I think alternative and,

5:05

like, to your point, it was

5:07

such a broad genre that I think Counting

5:09

Crows. I can't I'm

5:11

trying to think of like, there was some alternative

5:13

rock that had a little bit of edge to it. You

5:15

know what I mean? It was a bungee. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

5:17

Whereas, like, yeah, you call you might call Nirvana.

5:19

alternative. Some may have labeled them alternative.

5:22

And they were, like, relatively I'm sure this has

5:24

been discussed. They were relatively Counting

5:26

Crows, I feel like, has no edge whatsoever.

5:29

And I like I like the 'Long. And

5:31

you like it. You like it soft with all

5:33

the edges rubbed off. I don't know.

5:35

I just like that. This is a we it's

5:37

just a moment in time. So I ended

5:39

up thinking a lot about why like,

5:42

okay. For example, this

5:44

song was on this band was

5:46

in the was on the Shrek two soundtrack, Counting

5:48

credits. Okay? Okay. What song do they have on

5:50

the Shrek two set? Accidentally in love. It

5:52

was nominated for an Oscar, actually. Wow.

5:55

Yeah. They wrote so to be nominated for an Oscar,

5:57

that means they wrote it originally for Shrek

5:59

two. Is that true? That's the qualification. That's

6:01

the qualification. You can't just put anything. You

6:03

can't just put some existing hit on Guardians

6:05

of the Galaxy three and then get numbed.

6:07

It has to be written for the that's

6:10

why, you know, the star is born.

6:12

No. I'm off the day. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

6:14

this written for that feature

6:16

film, so it can get nominated. And that's

6:18

why there just aren't that many movie musicals

6:20

anyway. So that's why you tune into the Oscars and

6:22

you're like, this sounds just kinda suck.

6:24

Like, maybe there's one good one. Yeah. Okay.

6:27

So, yeah, there's yeah. I get yeah. He wasn't

6:29

just doing it for the love of Shrek that Yeah.

6:31

But he but he was visualizing the big

6:33

green guy when he's riding a Yeah. I don't think if

6:35

he was riding he was he was visualizing

6:37

a small gold statuette, Evan.

6:39

Do you think he was, like, this is my chance.

6:41

Now that he's, like, reading an original song for

6:43

a film. This is this is my shot.

6:45

It's the early two thousands now. You're

6:47

right. Crows is no longer particularly

6:49

in vogue once you cross say the year nineteen

6:51

ninety eight. And the first Shrek did win an

6:53

Oscar. So I guess it as weird as it seems

6:55

like Shrek, I guess, at the time, was

6:58

like Oscar bait, which

7:00

I know nine nine Shrek's

7:02

before push in boots pushes in boots

7:04

in. the Shrek two was Adam

7:06

Durits' shot to go Egot.

7:09

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he must have yeah. I assume he had a

7:11

Grammy at that. Yeah. He he has won several Tony's.

7:13

I mean, it is really funny that,

7:15

you know, that ever expanding alternative

7:18

section. It's like includes the,

7:20

like, the Seattle, Nirvana's, and

7:22

Pearl Jam's, and Sound Gardens that are all

7:24

like these crunchy power And

7:27

then just sitting right next to just counting Crows, And

7:29

they are like, this is off their second

7:31

album. But their second album, I think there are

7:33

seven people in the band. Like,

7:35

there's there's not a they have an

7:37

accordion for god's sake. Yeah. Yeah. And

7:39

you're and you're just right

7:41

in there between Pearl Jam and Nirvana.

7:44

Not alpha Seven p that's all terms of sales.

7:46

That's already already seven people, that's already

7:48

too many friends to be like Nirvana. That's

7:50

that's too many friends. That's more friend that's

7:52

more band members than Kirkland's have

7:54

good friend group. with seven people, you're

7:56

like, we could we'd list down to four or five people. Yeah. You have

7:58

different tiers of friends at that point. And at the

8:00

top now it's like our k fire has like twenty band

8:02

and that's kind of a selling point, I guess.

8:05

Whereas back then, yeah, there were something

8:07

a little less. I'm not sure to bear naked

8:09

late so bear naked ladies, they had

8:12

they want they were they were they did a song

8:14

for the first Shrek, and I consider them,

8:16

like, the flip side of this band sort of They're

8:18

like But I don't I don't mean Crows Crows

8:20

worry. for a hundred percent. Kinda

8:22

go to the wario. Yeah. Kinda go to wario.

8:25

The evil version -- Yeah. -- I hate your name,

8:27

please. Yeah. Is What Wadam

8:29

Wadam Mark. like, literally rising.

8:31

I'm, like, sitting up my chair. I'm, like, just Pat, like,

8:33

the fucking pyramid. At the very mention

8:35

of my my height curves. I

8:37

guess, my podcasts. I I

8:39

ripped Punch my shirt. It's just It matters. I've ever been on

8:41

this podcast. Just hearing the word. Just hearing the

8:43

name. Bear nakedly. Yeah. because then you

8:45

started thinking about one week. That's I don't

8:47

know. I mean, this the band is from San Francisco. They're,

8:49

like, super Adam Durwitz, who's the

8:51

lead singer, Crows up in the Bay area.

8:54

He,

8:54

you know, they're they're

8:56

like banging it out in the music scene,

8:58

playing like open mics. They're friends with

9:01

other

9:01

San Francisco area bands like

9:03

four non blondes -- Oh, yeah.

9:05

-- who have the big hit, you know, like

9:09

I say, yeah. I was confusing them

9:11

with concrete blonde. Well, let's go

9:13

in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

9:15

they have this, like, weirdly, meteoric

9:19

rise to fame where they

9:21

start playing together and

9:23

they have like a following locally

9:25

and

9:25

a fan brings his

9:28

brother or brother-in-law who's a who's a

9:30

record exec? Yeah. Who basically is like,

9:32

well, this is really good. And instead

9:34

of, like, just like a normal

9:36

Counting, it somehow turns into this crazy

9:38

bidding war. We're like all the

9:40

major labels are bidding for

9:43

counting crows. And did they have a

9:45

handy album out at the time? Like, how

9:47

did the bidding war start? They don't have a

9:49

track record. Huge bidding war,

9:51

Geffen wins just because they promised the most

9:53

creative control. and one of

9:55

their first concerts as a

9:57

band. This is

9:57

like how, like, hot they were just

9:59

in

9:59

the industry, which is crazy to think about is

10:02

at the rock and roll

10:04

hall of fame. Like, just so

10:06

much room like, so many rumors haven't

10:08

spread about, like, this band. I'm like, can you

10:10

believe would Gaffin spin on this?

10:12

Right. They're flown to the Rock on Hall of Fame

10:14

to play for their

10:16

heroes Rock and Roll Hall of

10:18

Fame induction, Van

10:19

Morrison.

10:21

What? Yes. Before they had a record of

10:23

Before they're like they have an album out before

10:25

they're, like, going on tour, they're playing at the rock

10:27

and roll of him. They're introduced by

10:29

Robbie Robertson. Rock and roll

10:31

royalty, the the the guitar player from

10:33

the band, who now does, like, all Martin

10:35

Scorsese Soundtracks. And they were inducted

10:37

into the hall that night, that night

10:39

after that, you know, the thing the buzz was.

10:41

No. But Adam Durva says that first

10:43

person who ever asked for his autograph is after

10:45

they played. George Clinton was there. He

10:47

was probably getting inducted, and he asked for Adam

10:50

Dorowitz's autograph.

10:50

Kind of, probably, like, kind of as a joke. Like, hey,

10:52

man. Can I get your autograph? even. But,

10:54

like, that's Yeah. That's, like,

10:57

that the way you describe that is,

10:59

like, you know, in every music by every

11:01

music movie biography -- Yeah. -- they, like,

11:03

condensed their entire career into, like, one

11:05

montage where it's they do the show, they get the

11:07

record contract become they get to a little fame.

11:09

That's really happened to them in real life,

11:11

as you described it. Yeah. Like the montage or

11:13

like a speed they just speedrunner. They speed

11:15

montage their whole getting

11:17

broken as a bag getting

11:19

their big break. Yeah. You you

11:21

people slug away for years or whatever.

11:23

People say get to Oh, they must have been

11:25

hated by, like, their contemporaries.

11:27

Absolutely. Whenever you hear someone got famous

11:29

overnight, people are always like, well, like, it

11:31

seems like they got famous overnight, but actually

11:33

was Yeah. work that was an

11:35

overnight success. The ten ten years. Oh.

11:37

And his brother knew someone.

11:39

So yeah. That I thought yeah. I I hope I

11:41

would be more magnanimous, but I'm sure that

11:43

was, like, I wonder maybe is

11:45

it possible this is the early nineties

11:47

I take it? This is like early to mid nineties.

11:49

Yeah. So maybe it's, like,

11:51

right that

11:52

sort of grudge thing. Like, I I

11:54

don't know what the, like, d day for

11:56

grudge tipping into the culture was. It was just,

11:58

like, perfect timing. Like, Nirvana

12:00

just blew up and they just were like,

12:02

we

12:02

need to it's a gold rush and they were

12:04

maybe they were the first post

12:06

Nirvana gold rush seeker. This this

12:08

is complete speculation. Maybe it's just so inexplicable.

12:11

I'm trying to find a Yeah. It's hard to imagine

12:13

people like connecting dot from Nirvana

12:15

to Counting That's sure of that.

12:17

Nice. So they're both alternative

12:19

rock, but because they're

12:21

both alternative, they sound exactly

12:23

the same. But their

12:25

first album is a huge hit. Yeah. That's the album with

12:27

mister Jones. Okay. So that's that's

12:29

like their lead hit that introduces kinda ghost in

12:31

the world. Didn't they have a long gap between

12:33

the first album and the second album that this is on.

12:36

Adam like Adam Derkwitz is

12:38

like crazily famous

12:40

during this, like, brief period

12:42

like they're on SNL. He

12:44

dates multiple actresses who are on

12:46

the TV show friends, which is

12:49

like the most famous thing you've been

12:51

dating in the world of that. Courtney Cox

12:53

and Jennifer Anderson. I think at the time, I

12:55

mean, I think more than one friend shouldn't be

12:57

allowed to even prefer

12:59

Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox. You should

13:01

have to pick a haircut, have to pick a brunette

13:03

or a blonde. He's just fully dating

13:05

both didn't really settle on a I mean, the hair I

13:07

guess he did settle on a haircut with

13:09

Gusto, but he didn't

13:11

taste an iron. But he

13:14

no. mean, that I just like the refrain I completely

13:16

forgotten about that. I knew he dated

13:18

Monica, which we'll get into, I'm sure.

13:20

But we did not did not know the

13:22

racial thing. That's like I mean, I know friends

13:24

still has a big cultural footprint, but if you got if you're

13:26

not, like, we're all

13:27

the same age. Right? Like, they were probably

13:29

the two biggest we were which

13:32

is to say we were alive in the nineties. You

13:34

cannot overstate how big friends

13:36

was. And those two special.

13:38

Both of those they probably you could argue they

13:40

were, like, the two most famous women

13:43

in TV or film at the time.

13:45

I during when Friends was really white

13:47

hot. and he dated both of them. Yeah.

13:49

Adam Dorowicz. At the same time. Not at the same

13:51

time. That'd be amazing, though. You said that he

13:53

really committed to a hairdo, and I don't wanna

13:55

gloss over for Those fans that are

13:57

only encountering Crows through this

13:59

podcast perhaps --

13:59

Uh-huh. -- because they were perhaps born after the

14:02

nineties, and they

14:02

only know Adam

14:05

Durrance by his prolific, signature

14:07

tones -- Mhmm. -- does have a unique voice.

14:09

And that's gotta be part of the selling point

14:11

of why they suddenly got to play the rock and

14:13

roll holiday before they had But what

14:15

you also must know is

14:18

that he is also time

14:21

proponent of the

14:23

white guy with dreads look.

14:25

Mhmm. Yes. Which was a thing for a

14:27

minute? Really was. Yeah. Is it

14:29

not a thing anymore? I feel like it's always

14:31

equally been a thing. but he

14:31

was like the top dog. Right. It's a

14:34

boutique look that never has

14:36

been in style and never but never will go out of it.

14:38

Yeah. But peaked. It it peaked. Now

14:40

If you're doing it, it's in a retro way.

14:42

It was enough of a thing for him though that, like,

14:44

when he finally cut off his hair, which is just in

14:46

the last two years, I think it was a COVID thing. Like,

14:48

Uh-huh. There was, like, a post about His hair

14:50

got COVID. It was, like no.

14:53

But he, like, knew he needed to explain it to the

14:55

fans. He was, like, my fans are

14:57

so used to my So now it just

14:59

has, like, a tasteful businessman hair. I think

15:01

it's kinda shaved short. Yeah. It's just,

15:03

like, just very safe short. and he knew he like,

15:05

I need to make an Instagram post being like,

15:07

hey, fans. Like, I know you're used to me

15:09

with this hair, but it's time

15:11

for me to move on. Like, That's how

15:13

-- Oh, yeah. -- that's how tied with

15:15

his dress. Yeah. Like, you might have to have

15:17

have a funeral for it,

15:18

you know, like like a homegoing

15:21

ceremony for the hair. So this is off

15:23

recovering the satellites, their second album. They had a

15:25

long gap between their first two albums. I guess when

15:27

your first album is that big of a hit, you're not in

15:29

that much of You already played the Hall of

15:31

Fame. Yeah. You already played the Hall of Fame. Kevin

15:33

gave you a creative control.

15:36

Robbie Robertson, who I guess they're still in touch with,

15:38

they just exchange numbers at the hall of

15:40

fame, he gives them the advice to

15:42

record in a house for their second album.

15:44

So girl, and record in a house, which

15:46

is very funny to me as, like,

15:48

Are you into the band,

15:50

Patrick? The band. The band. The band I

15:53

know I know of them. I know they're super a legend,

15:55

but Most confusing band name. If you

15:57

have deep They did yes. The score says he moved.

15:59

Yeah. Yeah. And the back to the back

16:01

of the band as I have. And you usually,

16:03

the gateway drug is you watch the Last

16:05

Waltz -- Uh-huh. -- which also features Van

16:08

Morrison, seeing Caravan,

16:09

you generally have to become either

16:11

team Robbie or team lead on.

16:14

Okay.

16:14

And the two leaders of the band Two leaders of

16:16

the band. Leave on to the drummer and lead singer.

16:18

Robbie is the guitar player.

16:20

And once you join one of those teams,

16:22

you just you you're still gonna like the

16:24

other people in the band, but you're gonna despise

16:27

the other person. And I'm strongly team

16:29

lead on, so I'm

16:29

a Robbie Robertson Hater. And

16:32

one

16:32

thing that's extremely funny to

16:34

me about Robbie Robertson telling the

16:36

Bain Counting Crows to

16:37

who hey,

16:39

you should all go live in a house together and record

16:41

your next album, but you all gotta live there, which is what they

16:43

did. They're like sleeping in closets and shit.

16:45

Is that famously the band's

16:47

album? Like, their album is music from the big pink.

16:49

They, like, all lived in the house together. Right?

16:51

They all lived in the big pink. In

16:54

Woodside, actually, Robbie

16:56

Robertson didn't live in He

16:58

he rented a different house and lived there

17:00

with this girlfriend. He was like, yeah, I don't live with you

17:02

guys. Like me and my girlfriend are just gonna wait. The house was was

17:04

it a big was the house painted tank?

17:06

It was pink and it was big. Yeah. It's on the cover of

17:08

the album. It's just really insisted they all live

17:11

in a house together. Like, why does that have to

17:13

be part of it? Like, is what what

17:15

was he That's a creative process. Like, you're not

17:17

gonna get in each other's heads. If you don't wake

17:19

up together -- Yeah. -- do your

17:21

first lines seven AM. But Robbie

17:23

Robbie will have a sleeping bag. Coasting on

17:25

this rumor that he lived in the Big Pink.

17:27

When he didn't, as I know, as a man He

17:29

believed his own lie. He

17:31

believes there's a lie. And now he's passing it on to

17:33

the youngsters. Let's start let's

17:35

play the song and just set the bed of nostalgia.

17:37

The somber nostalgia.

17:39

that is this song. It's a mood. Okay.

17:42

Yep. Right

17:44

from the drop.

17:49

And they

17:49

don't wait to hit you with the accordion either.

17:51

No. Yeah. Kind of a soft grunge

17:53

staple I feel like in a way. Long

17:57

Sammer. There's reasons.

17:59

I

17:59

believe maybe

18:01

this this year with a plaintive wine.

18:03

Better than the last

18:07

time.

18:08

I can't remember remember.

18:10

The last name, nice, your

18:13

son. If you were leaving,

18:16

days go by so

18:19

fast. Okay. There's just there's almost

18:21

too much to talk about. There's so

18:23

much. There's so much in that -- I

18:25

mean, thirty seconds. -- I take like,

18:27

honestly, he were I'm goofing on him

18:29

in his hair a little bit. Like, you sing that

18:31

in front of Rachel or Monica?

18:33

Like, I that's that's to your ace

18:35

in the hole. Yeah. Or David Gaffin.

18:37

or he's drinking this blah blah. You

18:39

get you get signed immediately. He's renting a

18:41

house for you. You know, he's he's whining.

18:44

He's nearly crying, but he's

18:46

also got about twenty five percent of a

18:48

surfer bro. When he gets to this,

18:50

you know, a little bit better. There's a vowel

18:52

on the

18:54

last Wow. Where he snuck

18:56

in a surfer there. And each one of those

18:58

things is, like, is loaded culturally.

19:00

Like, you felt so much from that. He's

19:02

crying, but also he's a surfer, bro?

19:05

Yeah. He's tender. Annie has dreads. The and

19:07

he's hasn't even gotten to the

19:09

the LA

19:09

references. Didn't even get already given you a taste

19:11

of it. The l the level

19:14

that he is emoting. You

19:16

can make fun of Adam Durrance's

19:18

voice with, you know, thirty years of

19:20

hindsight, but the amount that he's emoting with

19:22

his voice is really astonishing

19:24

to me. And we talked a lot about, like,

19:26

in that alternative section, there's so

19:28

many people that I feel like are copying each other

19:30

whether it's, like, you know, it's, like,

19:32

we we talked a lot about how

19:35

Scott Stapp is just sounding

19:37

like Eddie

19:37

Better an impression of Eddie Better

19:39

like even more than any better. And then you go back

19:41

and listen to who's this

19:44

singer from Sound Garden? The girl Chris

19:46

Cornell. Oh, like, was any better just like

19:49

Chris Cornell? And this is just Adam which is outside of

19:51

that arena. Like, he's he's living next to

19:53

an alternative. He's like Richard, but I don't

19:55

prefer his style singing This is

19:57

not for me. This song is for him. You

19:59

prefer Scottstown. This is

19:59

Evan. Evan is a huge creep fan, Pat.

20:01

Well, I I didn't want a guy named

20:04

who so helped me. If you accuse me of

20:06

being a stab stab stab one more

20:08

time, this song --

20:10

Okay. -- your creed is creed. Oh

20:12

god, Pat. I just get off

20:15

my show no pat. Let's get into the canyons, guys.

20:22

And

20:24

it's watched. Touch of a lead guitar, clear

20:26

nice, clean electric. Oh, arpeggio. One more

20:28

night in Hollywood.

20:31

What?

20:35

What's this about?

20:38

We wish you would. If you think

20:40

I could be forgiven, sorry, I had to

20:42

pause to, like, don't let this one fly by. It

20:44

won't let it do. It the non I'm

20:46

not gonna give you the non us. I'm gonna give you

20:48

the non us. It's the catchy part.

20:50

It's the catchy part I don't wanna give Andrew

20:52

the non us yet because I don't wanna

20:55

slide by this line

20:57

that is, like, morally pivotal.

20:59

What is happening Punch? If you think that I

21:01

could be forgiven, I wish

21:04

you would. Does that mean this is a

21:06

breakup song? Is he is he

21:08

apologizing for a no no that he

21:10

did? It sounds like it, but

21:12

you're right though that I don't it There's

21:14

no evidence of romance. It's a weird

21:16

Somebody left somebody left. I don't

21:18

think it's about romance, but what if he

21:21

set himself, it's been a car accident. So where why

21:23

why is he it's like, we haven't heard about the car accident in the canon

21:25

of the song yet. Like, we know that maybe as the

21:27

background based on

21:28

interviews. Right? Maybe

21:30

it's a did did he get broken up with at a hospital

21:32

by like, let's just let's just

21:34

review what do we know so far? It's a long December,

21:36

so he's feeling bombed. Yeah. Maybe this year

21:38

will be better in the last we've established

21:40

that things suck. I can't remember it. The

21:42

last thing that you said is you were

21:45

leaving. Okay. So there's been some

21:47

kind of coming apart.

21:49

Oh, That

21:49

was a bit worse. Well, what's

21:51

I can't thing you said is you were leaving.

21:53

Now the days go by so fast,

21:56

canyons, Hollywood, if you think I could be

21:58

forgiven. So a little bit of a mystery

22:00

here. Yeah. We wanna find out more about You

22:02

did some kind of breakup 'Long.

22:04

Could be sure it's not a breakup song. Could be

22:06

a bro break up. Like, we haven't

22:09

established What's the opposite of We

22:11

couldn't we haven't established like a sexual romance

22:13

-- Oh, you're gonna be just like he'll be friends.

22:15

-- if I yeah. You know? Maybe he

22:17

was wait. We're not we're not bringing the

22:19

car accident into this had an argument? Well, we're about

22:21

to. Wait. Wait. But from what we know so far

22:23

could be just an argument with the bros, argument

22:25

with the boys, you

22:27

know, maybe if, you know, following out with David Schrummer or yeah.

22:30

Or

22:30

LeBlanc? Sure. Wait. Can I

22:33

I think this is talk

22:35

about a bowl because -- Mhmm. -- is

22:37

this song this was my actually had

22:39

this was one of my, like, not a

22:41

punch up per se, but thoughts

22:44

is this song? Is the narrator of

22:46

the song singing it on

22:47

New Year's Eve? because

22:49

he said it's been a long December So

22:51

theoretically, it's the very end of the month. It's not the

22:53

middle of December. Otherwise, he was saying it

22:55

was towards the end. Like, he was saying it's it's been

22:57

a long December so far, but I'm

22:59

what does Ken if you put this on

23:01

a New Year's Eve playlist, good choice

23:03

or bad choice. Does it belong on a New

23:05

Year's Eve playlist? Well,

23:07

for me, hard no. Really?

23:09

Yeah. I don't go for

23:10

the sad boy music on on Oh,

23:13

for emotional reasons. Yeah. We're

23:15

a party. think it belongs on there. I think it's,

23:17

like, if you played this out in New Year's Eve

23:19

song, people would, like, everyone would

23:21

just belt the it's been a long December'. And, no,

23:23

they would belt maybe this year will be maybe

23:26

next year will better than last. Well, the year be

23:28

dog on sure they'll belt this

23:29

part. The last.

23:32

It's an

23:43

Smell hospital.

23:44

Winter. Oh my god.

23:46

It's a feeling that it's

23:48

hospitals smell different more or less than

23:50

the summer. Okay. Climate controlled

23:52

environments. But hospitals. They're always

23:54

the same temperature. Yeah. Summeran

23:57

winter. Good

23:57

point. Yeah. They probably always smell the same. But

23:59

you

23:59

know what? They smell like cancer. I accept to pick that

24:02

line. I can nick pick that line about the

24:04

hospitals and winners smell different. Sure.

24:06

But I still think it's What's the line? I mean, it's

24:08

gray line. Could it be the smell

24:10

of hospitals, period,

24:12

in winter, There's oysters with no

24:14

pearls. What's the next oysters produce their pearls

24:16

in the summer. The substances in

24:18

hospitals, like, what do the hospitals smell

24:20

like in winter exactly the

24:22

same. Lanolium, antiseptic, and

24:25

cadavers. But what is your

24:27

experience of that smell? Very different because

24:29

you have a sinus infection. can't

24:31

smell the hospital in the winter. Wow. Not

24:33

bad. So bad. You're in the hospital. Maybe there's just more

24:35

in a moment. to be visiting. 00I

24:37

thought you were Maybe visiting.

24:39

Yeah. Maybe it's an pneumonia

24:41

situation. There's just a You're right. It's

24:43

it's a great even if it's a not even

24:45

if it's nonsense, it's a great nonsense lyric.

24:48

It's I can't think of a good example, but, you know,

24:50

music history is full of amazing nonsense

24:53

like he's he's just a he's a poet.

24:55

Sounds. It's like what's so will go live? assassinating

24:57

down the avenue. Yeah. Doesn't mean anything.

24:59

There's definitely a lot more people dying of the flu

25:01

and winter, so it could smell different just because of

25:03

the volume of patients. On the nonsense scale,

25:06

this isn't this is very low on the

25:08

nonsense. Yeah. For sure. It might not be

25:10

true, but it doesn't doesn't

25:12

compare to fascinating down the avenue. Yeah. It's really

25:14

about a jump from hospital to

25:16

oysters. oyster did did she say the oyster never crossed? Yeah. She

25:18

never combined. Sorry. I was like, I'm gonna run

25:20

that oyster. That's amazing. I'll run it back a few seconds

25:22

so you can it's just it's only figurative

25:25

but here you go. Bing that.

25:27

It's a lot of oysters.

25:29

But

25:29

you're I'm like

25:32

eating oysters. It's fine. Okay.

25:34

all at once across

25:37

the crowd

25:38

and see the way

25:41

that light attaches Good

25:44

line. Okay. We're

25:46

back to the hook here.

25:51

Yeah. You noticed the way the light

25:53

reflects off of that perfectly coffed hairdo.

25:55

I think this hairdo could really go, please.

25:57

He does. fall under the

25:59

ultimate trap

25:59

of every songwriter, which

26:02

is the girl world run. Show

26:05

me show me No.

26:07

Wait. I take it back. It's Pearl. He rained with us. girl

26:09

because the oysters and pearls. So in

26:11

fact, he avoided the most dangerous

26:14

trap for any songwriter. rhyming

26:16

girl with the world. You just accidentally complimented

26:18

Adam Durrance's poetry. Sure. Sure. Here

26:20

okay. nitpick for me. Yeah.

26:23

I've heard, like, this the grit in the oyster is

26:25

a negative thing. If you get a little sand in the oyster

26:27

-- Mhmm. -- he's disparaging

26:29

oysters. Oh, totally. Ouzhars are

26:31

delicacy. Yeah. Delightful food. Ouzhars are

26:33

better, but Ouzhars have had a

26:35

real cultural turnaround in the last thirty years.

26:38

And

26:38

for me, it all goes back to

26:40

the ultimate nineteen nineties cultural

26:43

artifact, which is the film Dick

26:45

Tracy.

26:45

What?

26:46

What

26:47

is that? This was eating oysters and man. When you're introduced

26:49

to Alpacino playing the bad

26:51

guy in Dick Tracy. What what's the bad

26:53

guy's supervillain there? Big boy.

26:55

Big boy. Big boy. Big boy. Balpacino.

26:58

He's just, like, the very first time you see him

27:00

and he's just slirping down oysters. He's just,

27:02

like, counting the oysters.

27:04

I'm, like, as a child, I was like, this is how

27:06

you know this guy's bad. Yeah. What the

27:08

symbol of Oh, he shouldn't even f

27:11

e's elite Yeah. That got

27:13

sensualist. after I'd lived in New York

27:15

for a long time and I was like, I can eat this like

27:17

a normal person without

27:19

making this is Apologies

27:22

for, like, anyone listening to this

27:24

podcast. Hopefully You actually yeah. If you're just

27:26

listening, you actually just Put it in Yeah.

27:28

Pulled an oyster out of your pocket. Yeah. Andrew Andrew

27:30

alarming. He sloped an oyster to make that sound.

27:32

You can't make that sound of a noise. There was, like, you

27:34

know, the crossover of, like,

27:37

of, like,

27:38

hedonism and

27:39

also, like, the crossover of, like, a pre

27:42

sushi America that was, like, a

27:44

raw raw oyster. And

27:48

I think that's the world that I have, Drew. It's like a thing

27:50

in the system. Yeah. He's I think he's it's more

27:52

it's less like your I think he's talking

27:55

about, like, a

27:55

skin diver going through oysters, looking, you

27:57

know, looking for pearls. Sure. These are not a these

27:59

are not culinary

27:59

ice oysters, I suppose. Mhmm.

28:02

Otherwise, I'd be like, this is great. I wouldn't

28:04

wanna oyster,

28:05

a pearl in my food oyster. Cracker

28:07

tooth. Cracker tooth. Now, this other thing about

28:09

You look across the crowded room to

28:11

see the way that the light

28:14

attaches to girl. I don't love this part

28:16

because you had a really fucking

28:18

solid song going about

28:20

nostalgia that is like using

28:22

poetry to set setting here is

28:24

incredible. And then all of a sudden you made it

28:26

about girl boy

28:29

loves loves stuff. Right? So

28:31

yeah. Like, so you're you're kind of in the same boat with

28:33

me in terms of, like, with songs aren't about love.

28:35

A little more interesting. Yeah. And also well, let me

28:37

put a finer point on it. I guess this

28:39

the the whole the whole subgenre

28:41

of, like, I'm main character

28:44

and just by looking at a girl. We've done a

28:46

number of songs on the on the show where where

28:48

it's like, you know, you're singing about a girl

28:50

that doesn't know you exist. Yeah. But

28:55

she should drop that zero and get with the hero.

28:57

And this in its own little whiny

28:59

poetic way is just like coining

29:01

that is drawing on that just a little

29:04

bit. just like, the girl doesn't know he

29:06

exists? Well, I generously, that's

29:08

why the line

29:08

works for me. Is this guy is talking

29:10

about being unmoored from

29:12

a happy place in his life, whoever

29:15

he cares about, maybe it's his bro man's, maybe

29:17

it's his girlfriend has has left. And now

29:19

he's just like, at a party, he sees someone

29:21

across the Crows, and they're never gonna be a part of

29:23

his life, and he knows that. Like, that feeling you have,

29:25

where you see someone who's cooler than you Or

29:28

better than you at a party and you wish you could know them, but they don't.

29:30

That's that's what that's where the line is for me.

29:32

The the the girl is in the

29:34

center of this song, she's just

29:36

someone passing through that he's like I well,

29:38

yeah. I just, like, light attaches to her faces.

29:40

I just never heard that before. I just thought she is

29:42

she's standing in a spotlight. Yeah.

29:44

it's it's like a thick almost painted on her

29:48

notice. Now I did I rewound it just a couple

29:50

seconds because when you get to the hook with the

29:52

canyons in the Hollywood, the line the last

29:54

line is different each time. So

29:56

let's catch that. Yeah. It

29:58

says if

29:59

you think you might come to California, shit.

30:07

Which I

30:07

guess is to that man or woman that,

30:09

you know, falling out

30:11

with. Okay. Right.

30:13

Man, okay.

30:16

Because the

30:18

the

30:18

guitar is a little crunchy than you would have expected.

30:20

I was gonna say, very nineties. It

30:22

started they started rock they they started to

30:24

rock out a little bit. You don't expect to

30:26

get here when you begin a song with the

30:28

accordion. Also, Barry LA the way he California.

30:30

That's It turned up the alley

30:33

there a hundred percent. Yeah. That was

30:35

a choice. That's like kind of a Robbie

30:37

Robertson, the guitar solo to be that part 'Long

30:39

the neck. A lot of Robbie Robertson

30:41

guitars, so those are really, like, lower than

30:43

unusual guitars. I gotta pause for this. I

30:45

love that you're you're, like,

30:47

you're back into the Counting.

30:49

the

30:49

connection between accounting pros and and

30:51

the band. No. That's

30:54

it. It's there. By the way, I

30:56

I wanna also say how You

30:59

know, like, I give him credit, dirt, dirt,

31:01

dirt, and the

31:03

band. The band The band, the county girls.

31:05

The county girls. not the band the band. You're

31:07

talking about the band counting

31:08

Crows. I'm not talking about counting The act

31:11

of counting. I'm talking about the

31:13

Counting Kris. It's like who's on first. Not you're not

31:15

talking about the podcast counting

31:17

albums hosted by Andrew Gregory and Adam

31:19

Durris. No. That that's --

31:22

Yeah. -- a headcom podcast. Sorry.

31:24

You know the confidence to

31:26

know you have like

31:28

a chorus or a melody or whatever

31:31

or hook. That's

31:32

so good. You don't even have to write lyrics

31:34

for it and you could just say nah and nah and

31:36

nah. nah. that think that's just a cool level

31:38

of, like, you just have to know that,

31:40

like because it's kind of silly to just go,

31:42

nah, nah, nah, nah. And I think it's a

31:44

lot of a lot of songs do it, of course, or

31:47

or or or or whatever

31:49

-- Mhmm. -- or whoa, whoa. Our

31:51

collective No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

31:53

Hey. Hey. Hey. good. Hey, for example. Yeah.

31:55

I was running, like, I'm always thinking of one

31:58

song. I don't know. I think it's just kind of a

32:00

baller. My job move to be like,

32:02

tell me this Yeah. You can make fun of me for

32:04

not writing lyrics if you don't

32:06

think this non and not is

32:08

really Gotcha. Yeah. It's really finding me that we had

32:10

No. It'll say, native. We had an Ed Sheeran

32:12

song 'Long we did a couple weeks ago

32:14

with a bunch of nonnas in it.

32:16

And he said his influence was

32:18

Van Morrison. And now the Crows

32:20

saying Van Morrison is one of their influences,

32:23

like, just they're both acting like Van

32:25

Morrison owns non Anaz. And that's

32:27

Like not like for me, like non

32:29

Anaz, that's just that's public domain, but

32:31

both these major outstanding girls and out of sheer and

32:33

are like, well, obviously, Ben the man. I

32:36

mean, he's the one who knocked. He's the one that's. So

32:38

we're just trying to nod with Ben. It's

32:40

like, I I don't know, Kevin. he can

32:42

now without, like, at least Van Morrison wasn't

32:44

even worse than that. They they see British.

32:46

I was about to do a British Van Morrison. He's Irish.

32:48

I just would be like, you know, who's using that

32:51

bloody now? I would have lost immediately. That

32:53

was just seven dollars, by the way. That's seven

32:55

million dollars. It's more it's more irish

32:57

than that though. I noise. Oh, if

32:59

I saw someone's out Adam Durets out there and

33:01

none and none away. As if I haven't

33:03

been none on over here on the Murray Green

33:05

Crows, this whole time. I wish you had

33:08

just Nana. Can you stay over there if you do

33:10

what it is? You could do what it is. You like

33:12

what you said? Nana when the van is

33:14

still alive. I was just

33:16

hearing an imaginary tin Whistle behind you

33:18

while you did that by No. No. No. No. No.

33:20

No. No. No. What do let's say he's got Shala la

33:22

la la la la He's Shala la la la the

33:24

time with brother and girl. He not knows on care of

33:27

it. He's got the eye in his

33:29

back Yeah. But Van even Nannang, is

33:31

post Nannang, Nannang, Nannang,

33:33

Nannang from Wilson Pickett. Mhmm. Right.

33:35

I'm impressed. It's a very

33:38

like to acknowledge I like just focusing on the too. Forget

33:40

all the haes in the woes. Yeah. Drop the doodities.

33:42

Stick with the nos. You're still musical histories

33:44

littered with nos. to say nothing. Well, can

33:46

also do what did he did he done. That you could that's very, like,

33:49

effortful. Like, obviously, you just thought it'd be fun

33:51

to make up, like, cut a little nonsense. Yeah. They worked on

33:53

that. They workshop was it due do what

33:55

do or do what do I do? Yeah. Where I think

33:57

the non non ah's in this Counting Crows

33:59

he

33:59

was like, you know what? Like,

34:01

I was gonna put that was this it was a

34:04

space filler Like, you know what? I don't think you need anything else. You're right.

34:06

You're right. It comes out as elemental to animal.

34:08

And, Tom,

34:10

little while. Drive

34:12

up to Hillside Manor.

34:14

Again, New Year's there.

34:17

Yes. Oh, yeah. They're doing the post mortem on

34:19

the year. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

34:22

It's very much a post. It's

34:24

basically about

34:26

for end of daylight savings time. You're laughing

34:28

slower here. Now I got I'm just gonna have

34:30

to run it back again for Andrew who

34:32

plays the role on this Crows.

34:35

big time of being the rhyme police. As we've

34:37

just

34:37

talked about pearls and girl

34:40

versus world two, Durritt's

34:42

credit. Right? Now here in this verse where they drove up to Hillside Manor

34:44

doing a post mortem in the year, we have the

34:46

rarely seen, but Andrew loved to see

34:48

it triple

34:50

rhyme. or the winner makes you laugh a little slower or talk a little lower

34:52

about the things you could not show

34:54

her. Mhmm. Let's hear it. She's yes. She

34:58

luck. walked. She walked. Lower. About the

35:00

thing you could. That's

35:02

great. That's better. The one thing I'll

35:04

say about this

35:06

song is know, you're sleepy

35:08

and the winner is not as fun.

35:10

Your great uncle has

35:12

pneumonia, so he's in the hospital.

35:14

To me a lot of this song

35:16

has the vibe of the

35:18

crappy part of winter that in my

35:20

opinion doesn't take place in December.

35:22

Mhmm.

35:22

December That's all the fun winter

35:24

stuff. Yeah. You're coming off of

35:26

the high of Thanksgiving. Mhmm. It's

35:28

kinda like it's getting dark

35:31

early, sure, but it's like

35:33

you're

35:33

it's not a grind yet like it is in

35:35

March when you're like, oh, it's still dark

35:37

at five o'clock. The first month of any

35:39

season is fun. It feels new. You're

35:41

looking forward to Christmas. then just

35:44

one week later, you've got the second best

35:46

holiday of the entire year who put

35:48

those two best holidays a week apart from each other. I

35:50

don't know, but they did. Yeah. You're talking about New Years or months?

35:52

Yeah. New Year's. And then for, like, two or three weeks after New Year's, you're still, like,

35:54

kind of on a, like, high from New

35:56

Year's, well, you have off from school.

35:59

least for a few days. For me, it's only in

36:02

February that the winner

36:04

really starts to drag and you really

36:06

get into the talk a little slower.

36:09

laugh a little So you think the song is

36:11

this is from the perspective of February,

36:13

not January? I think there's too

36:15

much I mean, obviously, the song is

36:17

about along December'.

36:18

to me, the vibe he's describing is really of a mid to late February

36:21

vibe. The emotion of this song is

36:23

seasonal effective disorder. Yeah. Yeah. It's this is

36:25

a song about seasonal effective

36:28

December'. which doesn't hit in full till January, February, March.

36:30

December, I'm thinking Santa. I'm

36:32

thinking getting together with my family.

36:35

I'm thinking candid yams. Just kidding. I hate yams.

36:38

Never eat them. If you had a bad They're

36:40

the bare naked ladies of they're the bare naked ladies of things. I mean,

36:42

in December, I could be watching home alone

36:44

up words of ten times. That's gonna

36:46

put me in a good mood. That's a great December. Yeah.

36:48

That's a good that's December. I'm not

36:50

gonna do that in January or February. Watch home alone

36:52

times. No. It'd be weird. No. December. I can do that. Okay. Andrew's

36:55

interesting complaint that the the mood

36:57

here is so sad. He's really talking about how he had

36:59

a bum over a year. He's been

37:02

time in hospitals. He broke up with his bro or somehow.

37:04

And that really just happened over the course of the year.

37:06

I think the bro I for me, the bro theory is

37:08

out the window at this point. what?

37:10

It's for me. It's it's about a lady. Yeah. Whatever he didn't

37:13

show her, you know, some some something

37:15

wrong. I

37:15

didn't expose in the

37:18

with hospital 'Long, is the bro in the hospital? I don't mean to maybe to be the correct

37:20

guy. Maybe that's the correct guy. Maybe he's not. Listen,

37:22

hear me out. Makes you laugh a

37:24

makes you laugh a little slower little slower. makes

37:26

you talk a little lower. Could not

37:29

get along with Lisa could grower. Okay.

37:33

Let's try this

37:35

last one. We're

37:37

recapping the first

37:41

verse here. Maybe this year

37:43

would be better than

37:46

what? That's good, man. It hits different now. You

37:48

heard all these details about the Hollywood

37:50

Hills. Yeah. remember

37:52

all the time that I tried

37:54

to sell my son

37:56

to hold on. Peace

37:59

mowers.

37:59

They have He's trying to prenostasia by holding on to the

38:02

moments. Yeah. So and

38:04

it's I gotta put I gotta pause

38:06

it for these

38:08

to absolutely slap us with a minute. this is we've we've heard this

38:10

once in the song, but he and there's reason to

38:12

believe maybe next year will be better than the

38:15

last. Mhmm. What is that reason? IIII

38:18

ask. I don't think there's a lot of reason. It's a lot of I mean, there could be just sort of like

38:20

the math of it. Like, this year was so bad. The

38:22

next one has to be better. Yeah. I agree. Just like,

38:24

I'm a I'm a moral mathematician here.

38:28

and I just experienced something so bad and couldn't have you. Just like in

38:30

twenty nineteen, when we all said, wow,

38:33

this year we lost David

38:35

Bowie and Prince. nothing

38:37

could be worse than this. Twenty twenty is

38:40

gonna be great. Yeah.

38:41

So shut your mouth,

38:44

Adam Durritt, you're gonna you're

38:46

gonna jinx this all. A year's so bad that Anders is

38:48

like, I've gotta cut off

38:49

my dreadlocks. You're

38:50

coming off. Yeah.

38:53

That's what it took. I

38:55

guess, yeah, I I said, yeah, New Year's Eve, it is this

38:57

the whole big theme of it is, like,

39:00

renewal, hope, optimism for

39:02

the future. Absolutely. Yeah. Everybody thinks about the the no no's

39:04

they did during the Isn't that your song kind of about

39:06

that too? I don't I don't know the I never actually

39:08

understood the lyrics. All the length design is

39:10

literally about

39:12

nostalgia. and you don't wanna forget all your friends and your old

39:14

acquaintances. Right. You don't want them to

39:16

be forgots of so hang on to these good times

39:18

and these good relationships. So is

39:21

again, this I think, again, I think this kind of is

39:23

a New Year's Eve song, of which there are not

39:25

many. Yeah. I'd like to That's good point. This is

39:27

actually a New Year's Eve song, and they take this out

39:29

with the title. And then again, told

39:32

us it's specifically about December words, actually

39:34

about, like, the whole year and how how how

39:36

much it sucks. There's the

39:38

absolutely epic musical choice here, which

39:40

is they cut out for like what

39:42

feels like it's gonna be a breakdown, like maybe a

39:44

quiet verse here. As is often the case, when you're about three quarters away through

39:46

the song, you need, like, pallet cleanser, you need a

39:48

reboot, you need a reset of some some

39:50

type. So you'll often hear, like, oh, they

39:52

strip out the instruments. And it's

39:54

only the bass and drums or something for a

39:56

small emotionally, emotionally tender

39:58

verse. And it feels like to me, that's what

39:59

is about to happen. and

40:01

they leave you hanging for so 'Long, like nothing is

40:04

happening for several seconds. It's kind of a

40:06

dark court hanging you. Yeah. This is kind of amazing

40:08

choice. So I'll just come in right on

40:10

that gap.

40:11

And

40:14

it's one more day

40:16

up in Canada.

40:19

Tinder. version.

40:21

Oh. We'll get it one

40:22

more variation. What's

40:25

he gonna

40:26

say? 'Long

40:28

long

40:30

since I see the ocean.

40:34

Yeah. Guess

40:35

it's a show.

40:36

This is

40:40

like a karaoke

40:40

song. Just for the --

40:44

Yeah. -- it's so easy to sing. You

40:46

can hook the whole karaoke bar into nine nine with you.

40:48

Yep. For sure. No. No. No. No. No.

40:50

No. No. No. No. No.

40:52

No. No. Yeah.

40:54

No. No. this this

40:56

time we're staring at the ocean while

40:58

we're not enough, which we've never seen

41:00

before or haven't been a while. Santa

41:03

Monica is right there. Yeah. Santa Monica's rice there.

41:05

You live in the hills Hollywood. I guess

41:07

he's not near though Hollywood isn't near

41:09

the water technically. So

41:11

I guess he doesn't live near the water. That is

41:14

actually Can I bring a

41:16

little LA thing? We Yeah.

41:18

We're just non buying out to the rest of

41:20

the 'Long, like, we're pretty much here, but I do want

41:22

you to hold that thought because there's a

41:24

crucial whiny.

41:26

Yeah, dude. California.

41:28

Yeah. They don't fade out. They

41:30

make you listen to this. Yeah.

41:35

Yeah.

41:36

Always

41:38

one more than you expect. No matter how many

41:40

Yeah. As you're expecting, you know, that song

41:42

as always. There's one more right now. Yeah.

41:45

But it just hits for

41:47

me. It hits for me. Yeah. Okay.

41:49

What's your what's your LA what's your LA

41:51

tip? Yeah. When you I I lived in

41:53

LA, I lived near Hollywood, a

41:56

little a little humble brag. No.

41:58

I'll get full brag.

41:59

No. No. It's not like a glamorous

42:02

place, in my opinion.

42:04

But you never get out to the ocean as much as you think you would. When I move there,

42:06

I can I'd be like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to

42:08

ocean every weekend, like this beautiful, you

42:10

know, warm

42:12

weather. and you're gonna be very hard to get out there. So it's because of

42:14

the traffic. Yeah. The traffic is terrible. It is a

42:16

hundred percent because of the traffic. It's such a cliche. You can't

42:18

make it on maybe on a Sunday, six

42:21

AM. You could get a Santa

42:23

Monica. And he clearly lives in Hollywood, the Hollywood hills. So See,

42:25

if you live in Hollywood, you just go sunbathing on

42:27

the Hollywood hills.

42:30

slide down on the side of our Yeah. But I don't know.

42:32

Blanket just right next to the d of Hollywood. Yeah.

42:34

Then you get it in and out burger

42:38

that's what our lives were. They said, well, that's why I

42:40

laugh. I can't That's it. That's the hell No. I'm

42:42

just says I'm just giving him some LA credit. I am

42:44

trying to figure out I'm just trying to figure out think it's

42:46

acceptable. He's not going to Ocean. That has been a long

42:48

time since it's in the ocean. As at New Yorker, I'm

42:50

like, how long has it been since it's going

42:52

out to Malibu? And you're like, Malibu,

42:54

it's pretty far Yes. Exactly.

42:56

Exactly. Yeah. I'm giving this kind of

42:58

some slack. But yeah. Or or

43:00

I I listened

43:01

to this. I I had one thought about that.

43:03

Was it a suicide reference? because

43:05

he seems really sad in this in this It's extremely

43:07

He's serious. He's very disputing. No. I oh,

43:10

shit. Like, I just was wondering if he's not walking

43:12

into the ocean. like is that we supposed to

43:14

think about it. You do ask the question. I don't think that's what I mean. I think he wants to go stare at it and just like

43:16

be pensive. But at the end of this

43:18

song, you're definitely asking the

43:21

question, is Yoko Okay. Don't need to

43:23

call the hotline. I the hospital invoked. That kind of -- It's

43:26

mortality -- -- front center. -- Los

43:28

Angeles, the ocean, it's more of a thing

43:30

about, like,

43:32

maybe he used to play football at

43:34

Ohio, but he hurt his knee.

43:36

Yeah. Now he's in FBI. he's

43:40

training to be an undercover agent. Oh, yeah. He's going

43:42

to the beach. Maybe he can try to catch some

43:44

bank robbers. Right. And he starts surfing

43:46

-- Oh my god. --

43:49

but I the guys. He's he's not surfing as much anymore. He

43:51

doesn't see the ocean. Yes. That's the bet for

43:53

me is I know where it's at. Yeah. Are you saying that

43:55

the plot of a point break is

43:58

inspired by I'm saying Both

44:00

early nineties. Both early nineties. Yes.

44:02

I'm saying this is a point break song. His

44:04

friend is in this terrible accent. This

44:06

terrible skybound.

44:09

You talk. Give me two. Listen,

44:10

we got some real opposing takes on this

44:12

song. This -- Okay. -- this song, I understand

44:14

it to be a hit. It does make me

44:17

I experience feelings when I listen to it, but this song's

44:19

not for me necessarily. It's not to

44:22

my taste. It is for Andrew

44:24

who is in the back of

44:26

this song loves it, listen to it at the time, continues

44:28

to listen to it today. This is a heavy lift

44:30

because we have some different perspectives. There's some

44:32

agreement about, like, how great this song is. We

44:34

don't know what our

44:36

angle is. we're gonna take a break and come back

44:37

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46:18

but I must ask

46:20

it. Just

46:20

in your opinion, how many

46:22

crows are there? Wow.

46:23

That's a good

46:24

question. Has it been answered? Do we

46:27

know? Canonically? Counting Crows. No.

46:29

because they're not counted Crows.

46:31

It's counting Crows. It's from a nursery rhyme. Is

46:33

it the may is it the

46:35

four and twenty blackbirds? Maybe if we went and

46:37

read the nursery rhyme, it would be clear. Like,

46:39

maybe it's accounting thing. Maybe it is a four and

46:41

twenty blackbirds. Maybe there's probably people in England know that.

46:43

We can't know it. Okay. Yeah. It's

46:45

very Macobb in a weird way. It sounds

46:47

like the title of, like, a George

46:49

r or Martin novel or something. Yeah. It's it's, you

46:51

know, you talk about Crows. You're getting into a madame

46:53

Gral and poster. Yeah. Count Counting Yeah.

46:56

Count the crown. When the third crown is counted,

46:58

the seal is broken. As you

47:00

walk down to the a tree. What? Come Yeah. You

47:03

yeah. That's bad. That's bad when the sea

47:05

is broken. I mean, it's a good

47:07

question for for dirt. Crows

47:10

Chris. Sure. Yeah. I'm sure he's been

47:12

asked by some really

47:14

saucy, you know, uncles at the family reunion

47:16

that think they're being hilarious. Right. Oh,

47:18

did Jim Duritz. He's unemployed, uncle. Yeah.

47:21

Uncle Jim. David Gef, I'm asking

47:23

about the first interview. guarantee.

47:26

Now, Andrew, can you introduce this

47:28

punch up? Well, I ended up working

47:30

on this punch up. And the main

47:33

thing I thought about,

47:34

i thought about you you know, Pat

47:36

really talked about is this a beginning I

47:38

mean, today is December first, but

47:40

is this really a beginning

47:43

of December song? Is this really a December thirty first rolling

47:45

over into the New Year song? Mhmm. I

47:48

posited that really

47:50

the energy of the

47:52

song is more, like, into February,

47:54

beginning of March when we're like, good God.

47:56

When will this be over?

47:58

And when will daylight savings

47:59

time begin

48:00

again. Yeah. Yeah. It's that

48:02

dark period between MLK day and St.

48:04

Yeah. So I thought about taking

48:07

it, like, darker, like, What's

48:08

the long February? But, of course, long February, that's that doesn't

48:10

make any sense. That's not a hybrid because there's only twenty

48:12

eight days The short is the short is

48:14

not? Sure. So here's a copy of the

48:18

I decided to lean into the energy of December

48:20

that I truly know

48:23

and love. Evan,

48:25

Alrighty great.

48:27

Already

48:28

great.

48:29

The typo. A

48:31

couple clicks. Just

48:32

of

48:34

along or eu family

48:37

and years

48:39

This is not

48:42

a Stuart's impression, but I love it. Patricio

48:44

to all. It's copyrighted. I don't know what you're talking

48:46

about. Holiday season

48:48

is always such a blast.

48:50

It's one more

48:52

night out there that candles. and

48:56

it's one more night of lighting on the tree. You

48:59

may not come home

49:02

Christmas, but

49:04

remember how we're seeing

49:06

follow-up. Oh, there's

49:10

one there's one syllable that works on

49:12

Christmas. Yeah. Ben Morrison is

49:14

the nozz, but I've got the olives.

49:16

I like how you passed out the lyrics like

49:18

just these incredibly dense

49:20

enigmatic things.

49:22

Oh, kept the oysters.

49:24

I like that. Yeah. Gotta keep a quick question. Yeah.

49:27

But now they're in the feast of the

49:30

seven fish. smell of Christmas Eve. Yeah. And it's one

49:32

more night and nugget and

49:34

Carol. And

49:38

watching home in love actually. That's a good time.

49:40

I would. You may not come

49:42

home for Christmas, but

49:44

just remember how we seen

49:48

Andrew. Andrew, you're killing

49:50

it because it has the nostalgia feels. You think the nostalgia

49:52

feels the

49:54

nostalgia feels.

49:56

said.

49:56

There we go. You

50:00

deleted the guitar,

50:00

put in the glock and spiel.

50:03

Waded in my

50:04

bed was up with me

50:07

as soon as I am waiting for Oh,

50:09

it's a kid's point of view. Oh, the

50:11

rain do you? Well, or a kid

50:13

in a heart attack. They don't land until you breathe a

50:15

little slower, cream of sugar, plums,

50:18

lead. You're late time to look

50:20

at my Long,

50:22

super full family

50:26

issue. Somehow, this year will be

50:28

better than the last Same

50:30

line. I've dealt vibe. Sit in

50:32

the vase. So it's all a star,

50:34

brushing the the holiday. The

50:36

season is

50:37

always such a blast.

50:40

Okay. for

50:42

the

50:42

breakdown. More night waiting

50:45

for Santa. And it's one

50:47

more night snuggling with your

50:49

fair I heard you may

50:52

not come home for

50:54

Christmas, but just remember I

50:56

will see blah

50:58

blah blah. Yeah.

51:02

Oh, yeah. The the xylophone?

51:14

Oh, you're getting the

51:17

spirit of dirt

51:18

on these ass. Fixturing for the music

51:22

video. Nano with dreadlocks.

51:24

Yeah. We didn't

51:26

discuss this the original

51:27

music video as Courtney Cox in it. This

51:29

is Josana. Oh, that's right. Yes.

51:31

We didn't get into that. We talked about Courtney Cox, but

51:33

yeah. She's in this

51:35

video too. Yeah.

51:41

No. Wow.

51:44

I will say it felt a little dirty.

51:48

Adam Durrance is Jewish.

51:50

Feels

51:51

a little if I was a little dirty to

51:53

turn this into a full Christmas you went full

51:55

Christmas. But then you know

51:57

what I thought? I thought. Who wrote white

52:00

Christmas?

52:00

Who wrote all of the great

52:01

Christmas Anthem -- Yeah. -- of

52:04

the of

52:06

the twentieth century. Yeah. There's a lot of New York Jewish self writers

52:08

who are writing who are writing those sentences. I can't think of

52:10

great I think I think I think I think merits

52:13

would be happy to be in there right next to Irving Berlin right

52:15

now? He he wants to be he wants to be the heir

52:18

apparent to Van Morrison, but he could be the heir to

52:20

Irving Berlin. Yeah. I'm

52:22

yeah. He's apparently, is

52:24

that that's what Gaffin thought. He thought

52:26

he was the next Andrew, this is amazing. It's exactly

52:28

like you said. There's a couple of the lines are

52:30

the same. Same line, different

52:31

vibe. But the vibe is fixed.

52:33

And but the vibe is punched up. There's a

52:35

little like, I

52:38

tried it I tried to keep a little sadness in there in the in the of course,

52:40

you don't know if they're gonna come home for Christmas. You want

52:42

me though? I think they will. Yeah. I hope

52:44

you will. but

52:46

there's that little have a nostalgic vibe. It's still still there. Yeah.

52:48

A little of the Well, you're eating the feast of the seven

52:50

fish. And there's something about the I don't

52:52

know, the court of it or something. There

52:55

is like melling colleague to it that you can't escape even with

52:57

the there's a whimsy to it

52:58

that's That's I could've said it better

53:01

than myself, the the court of

53:03

it. Yeah. Yeah. The court of it as

53:05

a mill cost. Same court just sped up

53:07

about Punch percent. Yes. Same I

53:09

also III was I was talking

53:11

about kinda recently how it's how

53:13

long it's been since there's been like

53:15

a canonical Christmas song. I think

53:18

maybe the most recent one is I all

53:20

I wanna Right. Right. Right. And that's what twenty years ago now? Probably

53:22

more. Thirty years ago. So we're

53:24

overdue. This is I

53:26

mean, like,

53:28

you know, apparently,

53:28

someone should write give you a record contract -- Wow. --

53:30

sign and see you for that Christmas song. Santa.

53:33

Evan, did you catch a

53:35

special easter egg that

53:38

I put this 'Long for you. For me --

53:39

Yeah. -- beside that we got a tall tree, our

53:41

family used to always get a really tweezed to get the

53:43

nine, ten footers. It has to do

53:46

with the

53:47

glass and spiel solo. If you go back and listen to the

53:49

glaucoma Oh my god. Okay. I'm dialing back the punch up.

53:51

When I go back to the glaucoma, the

53:53

little Easter egg. Oh, no. For

53:55

-- Okay. -- for deep fans of the

53:58

podcast. And maybe Evan, but I think even though this

53:59

is an easter egg specifically, rather, I think it might

54:02

have blown right on my side. so deep. I don't even It just play

54:04

it well, playing the Glaukoskiel solo. Right? It's about It'd

54:06

be like if Evan

54:08

played a quote from point break

54:10

to me and I didn't get it. Yeah. We're just gonna have yeah.

54:12

I have done I have played Busy for you. Okay.

54:14

So we're running it back. Back

54:16

and to the left.

54:26

Why

54:27

do I got it?

54:30

Oh. You're the only listening to this.

54:32

You're On the last note on the last note,

54:34

I got it. wow. Only because

54:36

you alerted I was sure you weren't going to

54:38

get it. And then I was gonna offer to give you

54:41

five dollars for it if you got it.

54:43

Knowing you weren't gonna it, now clear hit gonna give you the segment.

54:45

Yeah. Okay. What Andrew

54:48

did is he put

54:50

in the Glockenspiel solo.

54:52

The melody of the very

54:54

first song I ever picked as

54:56

host of this show last year,

54:58

as my first walk in song, which was episode when we started

55:01

last and I picked a

55:03

Herb Alpert song called

55:06

the bell that couldn't jingle.

55:08

A song so unknown that you

55:10

played it for weird El Yankee Vic and weird I

55:12

was like, I've never heard that song.

55:16

like, that's the main who's heard every song. And he was like, this is really good.

55:18

I'm gonna have to listen to this. I like this. And

55:20

so I so I jammed in instead

55:23

of the guitar I didn't hear First time, I feel solo too,

55:25

the bell I did not hear the first time you

55:27

played it. Only going back and really focusing, because I

55:29

hear the melody. But, yeah, it didn't quite

55:31

fit with the the couch

55:33

That is, like, or the densest web of, like,

55:36

reference in joke obscure

55:38

music. Like

55:40

I'm I'm fully pulled

55:42

it back out. Some of the fans picked it up

55:44

before you did, and I think the answer is

55:46

probably no. No.

55:47

No. If if if anyone says they got that the first time That was the dinging

55:49

was a glockenspule. That's a glockenspule. Yeah. The little you

55:52

know, the set of bells that's,

55:54

like, laid out

55:54

like a piano keyboard Oh,

55:57

wow. That you play with mallets? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't

55:59

know that's

55:59

what a blockage field

56:01

was.

56:02

Great name. Yeah, girl. of

56:05

the Germans. They knew how to name them, baby.

56:07

Glaukoskiel, shot in freud, auto bond, tons of great work. I

56:09

think your name is German stuff. Yeah.

56:11

No. Just German words.

56:14

But

56:14

talking about your first ever walk

56:16

in song on the podcast

56:18

seven, I think brings us

56:20

brings us to the final segment

56:22

of the show.

56:23

That's it. Walk in music. Well,

56:25

as you

56:26

all get it. That every week. Thanks

56:28

so much for being here. Every week we

56:31

was the podcast by talking about what

56:33

song you would play to

56:35

walk into a

56:38

an event real or Why don't you just give yours right

56:40

off the bat. Give patent examples of who knows how

56:42

to do this. Okay. My

56:44

event is I haven't seen the ocean for

56:46

a while. Sure. It's been

56:48

a while since it's a recession. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow.

56:50

So I get in my car.

56:52

And go

56:52

ahead and queue. Go ahead and queue.

56:55

and I get in my car and I drive down the Jersey turnpike.

56:58

There's some real kind of dissonance to hearing

57:00

this on the Jersey turnpike. This doesn't sound

57:02

strange to

57:04

me. Yeah. Of

57:04

course, real fans of the band.

57:07

Like me, know that anytime

57:09

you hear the midland being

57:12

played, is being played by Lee Von Helm. Generally,

57:14

because of the song that the band worked up

57:16

while he was working on an oil rig after

57:18

he quit the band, and Richard

57:20

Manuel was playing the drums and he became backing, didn't start playing

57:23

the drum game, but this is

57:25

from their run-in the

57:28

nineties when Robbie Robertson wasn't in the band, so

57:30

fans of team leave on can rest assured,

57:32

you're not gonna have to hear Robbie

57:34

Robertson Qatar and grudgingly admit

57:37

It's amazing. Yeah, brother. So anyway, I

57:40

I arrive at Atlantic City and I

57:42

walk into the ocean. This is my walk in

57:44

Sunpro. Walk into the ocean in

57:46

Atlantic City. It's the band's version

57:48

of Atlantic City by Bruce Spring. It's

57:50

disgusting water to walk in by the way. Just

57:53

it's Jersey like casinos

57:56

dumping their Yeah. You're in a bad place. for

57:58

that, I need to go. If you actually go there. I love

58:00

it. Me

58:02

and I in Atlanta.

58:04

Yeah. I mean, this it doesn't

58:06

scream beach music to me, but

58:08

but it's also got the soft

58:10

accordion in is Oh. Yeah.

58:12

Oh, wow. Therefore, this song

58:15

is alternative rock. This song is

58:17

this song is a Zydeco

58:19

song. The main just went full

58:21

Zydeco on it. It sounds like Clifton, shitty. Okay.

58:24

My walk in song

58:26

is I'm going to family

58:29

get together over the holidays.

58:31

And they're all

58:33

tired of me, a

58:35

professional but not well known

58:37

musician perhaps about me telling

58:39

them about my new podcast

58:41

or whatever I'm working on.

58:43

And so I walk into this

58:48

track because I need a new

58:50

way to ask them

58:52

this question. I need

58:53

a new way. Have you got my latest,

58:56

leader records,

58:58

that good project?

59:00

Have

59:02

you got my Have you got my

59:05

latest? We're good. What

59:07

is this? Project. This

59:10

is a real

59:11

release. Very

59:14

recent from

59:14

rock and roll

59:15

hall of famer and

59:18

all time and sadly declined Van No.

59:20

This is a real record

59:22

put out by Van Morrison called

59:25

Latest Record Project.

59:28

which he sings over and over. Just

59:31

publicly broadcasting his mental

59:33

decline, have you got my latest

59:35

record

59:35

project? Maybe you get

59:38

his latest projects. You got it. You got it. You're listening to it. I think he might

59:40

even claim that I haven't. I

59:42

streamed it. I've ripped it. But did I

59:44

buy it? Did I go down to the FYE

59:48

to the alternative rock section and buy a hard copy,

59:50

a printed album of his latest record

59:52

project. I did not. There are people record is

59:54

that an industry saying record project? No.

59:57

No one calls it a record project,

1:00:00

maybe in Ireland.

1:00:02

It's a record or it's a recording player.

1:00:04

a pause. Look at this. A pause.

1:00:07

because we got the nose. Yeah.

1:00:10

Oh, man. I went through a The nose are

1:00:12

back. Wow. I went through a like, I

1:00:14

wouldn't say the space is over, but there's A2A3

1:00:17

year window where I bought a bunch of expensive concert tickets to see some

1:00:19

of my idols. Mhmm. I saw

1:00:21

Homa Cartney Live. John

1:00:23

the floor. Amazing show. Yeah. I spent so much money for

1:00:26

those tickets and I walked away being like, should

1:00:28

have paid more. Drove

1:00:30

to Philadelphia saw Steve Wonder play my favorite

1:00:33

Stevie Wonder album front

1:00:34

to back amazing. One of the best

1:00:36

shows in my life. Third

1:00:37

show in that run. Band

1:00:40

Morrison, I was kinda like, That's

1:00:41

so great. That's so great

1:00:44

now. Well, he had didn't have this song. He

1:00:46

didn't have this song. No. Adigi

1:00:48

visited -- He didn't perform this song. -- and it was the

1:00:50

worst show. But you got but I did

1:00:52

a similar thing. You check them off though, you know? I did

1:00:54

the same thing after Bowie and Prince died because

1:00:56

I was like, oh, I'm never I gotta see

1:00:58

You went to see them dead? You weren't seeing them dead?

1:01:00

No. No. No. I when they passed

1:01:02

away, I kind of I realized that I missed

1:01:04

my opportunity to ever see them before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I

1:01:06

kinda made it a point to like, I saw Paul McCartney

1:01:08

after myself. Yeah. It was incredible. It

1:01:11

wasn't when I saw, like I even saw Ringo

1:01:13

who's not as incredible, but I was, like, I gotta see all

1:01:15

the living beetles in my channel. The funniest thing

1:01:17

about Senvion Morrison Live is for

1:01:20

the first three I

1:01:22

swear to God. The man played the

1:01:24

saxophone and did not sing

1:01:26

a word. I got He was his own ticket. I got out

1:01:28

my ticket to see if there was

1:01:30

fine print. Like, Van Morrison -- Yeah.

1:01:32

-- plays the sex playing

1:01:34

his own He owns my sex. This concert

1:01:36

also, I was there as well. He said he

1:01:38

said nobody there had to wear masks when it

1:01:40

was twenty eighteen, which is kinda weird. Like, he

1:01:42

was already yelling about that. And

1:01:44

we're like, dude, that's not even an issue yet. Like, what do

1:01:46

you talk what do you know that we don't? It's weird. It really

1:01:48

did solve a mystery to me though, which

1:01:50

is why are there so many mediocre

1:01:52

months old was on Ben Morrison Records. I'd always kinda wonder that, like, I guess he

1:01:54

has a friend or something that's like kind of

1:01:56

an Oki saxophone player. No. It

1:01:59

is Band two. It's

1:01:59

actually hit. Playing all the mediocre accents always.

1:02:02

Anyway Actually, I really just wanted an excuse

1:02:04

to play in the utterly

1:02:06

insane track. called latest

1:02:08

record project. love that there was an Same guy

1:02:10

doing brown eyed girl, you know, fifty years

1:02:12

later, he's doing this. And I'm

1:02:14

nuts that this song exists. just amazing that

1:02:16

this could exist in the world.

1:02:18

Anyway, I'm passing the concert to you, Pat. Did

1:02:20

you bring anything for your walk in music

1:02:22

today? I did. Yes. And I think, you

1:02:24

know, I think it connects to the song we listen

1:02:26

to in that there's some apparently,

1:02:28

some love involved. I think we kind of decoded some

1:02:30

some romance and some

1:02:31

some will they won't pay? We've ruined a song

1:02:34

for you. Yeah. You were, like, finally, a song that's

1:02:36

not about life. I know. I don't know. No.

1:02:38

Now we we we pulled it out.

1:02:40

It's in there. Yeah.

1:02:42

So this is a I'm gonna get a little romantic

1:02:44

Punch like Adam Darrett's, I guess, and his

1:02:46

two beautiful girlfriends, Corey Cox, and

1:02:48

Jennifer Anderson. I'm I'm not married. Okay. But

1:02:51

I have I Well, I'm breaking

1:02:53

some news years on this

1:02:55

gossip podcast. But

1:02:57

why I

1:02:58

would love to have one of these very cool weddings

1:03:00

with all my friends there

1:03:02

and all my family. And I

1:03:05

My favorite part of weddings is the, like,

1:03:07

when the bride and groom do their first

1:03:09

dance. Mhmm. But in this

1:03:12

fantasy, we like sing a

1:03:14

duet together. Oh, yeah. Wow.

1:03:16

So everyone's there. It's very cool

1:03:18

wedding. I don't know. I don't know where it is. But

1:03:20

wherever your dream cool wedding is, it's there. Hollywood

1:03:22

Hills, quite frankly. Like, coolest wedding is

1:03:24

probably Hollywood Hills. Right next to d.

1:03:26

Hollywood Hills. Or in up in

1:03:28

the canyons, Yeah. Everyone's

1:03:30

gather around the at the rim of the canyon.

1:03:32

We come out to the dance 'Long.

1:03:34

the And

1:03:36

this We And

1:03:38

we No. Don't even dance. You can play it. We break into this do win.

1:03:40

Yes. This is, of course,

1:03:42

this island in the stream.

1:03:46

by Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers. And Kenny Rogers, it's

1:03:48

a really, really I just

1:03:50

think it's a really sweet duet done

1:03:54

at karaoke with

1:03:56

with a coworker before. Call of fame

1:03:58

karaoke song. Call of fame karaoke

1:03:59

song. It's a good

1:04:02

it's It's good because it's a doet, but it's a very simple doet to do.

1:04:04

Yeah. Very singable. I mean,

1:04:06

if you run a wedding and the

1:04:09

bride and groom did this, I

1:04:11

mean And say it to each other? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Use your mind.

1:04:13

Oh, I'd lose my mind. I would leap out of

1:04:15

my seat in order to

1:04:18

gin the other wedding

1:04:19

guests up into a frenzy

1:04:22

to do an improv game where we

1:04:24

are all

1:04:26

the stream going past -- Yeah. -- the two islands of the bride

1:04:28

and groom, we would invent a new wedding

1:04:30

dance in the moment. You know what's

1:04:32

nice about it too? It's a love 'Long,

1:04:35

I know and I've I've I've I've railed against love songs. But

1:04:37

what I like about this one though, it is like

1:04:39

numb unlike it's a love

1:04:41

song where both

1:04:41

people are just like we're together and

1:04:44

we like each other and were equals, whereas I think most loved

1:04:46

songs, there's like, you know, I love you but you don't

1:04:48

love me. Mhmm. I love you but we broke up. I

1:04:50

miss you. You love her or whatever. This is

1:04:52

just a

1:04:54

nice a happier. Even just a new love song. You're gonna know yourself.

1:04:56

Like, does the other person really like that this

1:04:58

song is being sung? This song is very clear.

1:05:00

There's no and this song shouldn't have

1:05:03

work dramatically because there's no conflict in it. It's like

1:05:05

this and walking on sunshine or just like the

1:05:07

two -- Yeah. -- least conflict songs

1:05:10

ever. But it's just know, Kenny, I I

1:05:12

love both of these artists. She just played at

1:05:14

the rock and roll hall of fame. She was just

1:05:16

inducted, actually. Yeah. She should be

1:05:18

inducted into every hall of fame. There was a weird I don't know

1:05:20

if you track practice. She was accepted into the hall of fame earlier

1:05:22

this year. And then she said just

1:05:24

kind of for some reason, she was like, you know what?

1:05:26

Like, I don't really I

1:05:29

feel like other people deserve it more than me. Kind of weird opinion,

1:05:31

but, you know, I guess, kinda humble. Good for her. Yeah. I

1:05:33

don't know if you get to opt out. She was just like,

1:05:36

I'm not You don't. They said we're gonna put you in any way. Wow. It's Wow.

1:05:38

But then she eventually just said fine whatever. Yeah.

1:05:40

Yeah. And this song is sampled by the

1:05:42

Fuji's or one of the Fuji's bras or something.

1:05:46

Really? you know, about pajuaging pajuaging

1:05:48

pajuaging pajuaging. Oh, I never put that

1:05:50

together. in the stream hook. Now Get

1:05:53

a superstar. Get a superstar. So

1:05:56

she movie, Bulwark. From Bulwark.

1:05:58

Great flicks, though Dolly Parton could also

1:05:59

go in the hip hop hall of fame is all the same. Are

1:06:02

you My god.

1:06:04

Are you you familiar with who wrote Isles in the stream patent? Maybe you are, but maybe

1:06:06

you're not. It is not Kenny Rogers or Doug Delia. I

1:06:08

assume it's Kenny Rogers.

1:06:10

This is I'm

1:06:12

on fact out probably five years ago, and it

1:06:14

it totally made me reimagine this

1:06:16

group and made me a fan of

1:06:18

this group when I dove into them

1:06:21

a a group that was, like,

1:06:23

widely hated in my youth. And now I'm a huge

1:06:25

fan, and I'm, like, I could have been I'm so like,

1:06:27

holy grail in this group. Islands in the stream.

1:06:29

this song is by the

1:06:31

fucking BJ's. Wow. The

1:06:33

BJ's Road Islands. Amazing. Yes. Mhmm. And, like,

1:06:35

once you hear it, you're like,

1:06:37

oh, that's a beauty song. It sounds like a beauty song. Yeah. Yeah. But

1:06:39

when I I went I don't know. Like, they were

1:06:41

kind of a a Punch line in the eighties

1:06:44

and nineties. and it made me go back

1:06:46

and listen to a lot of their music. There's also a really

1:06:48

great documentary. I've talked about this. I've seen

1:06:50

it. That was my version of that

1:06:52

and totally made me rethink thank them and --

1:06:54

Yeah. -- now one of my favorite songs of all time

1:06:56

is their song to love somebody.

1:06:58

It's just they're so they have so many

1:07:00

so many Yeah. I'd like to see one

1:07:02

of those, like, open ended interview

1:07:04

shows like they do on Netflix. That's just

1:07:06

Adam Durwitz talking with

1:07:08

Barry Gibbs about what

1:07:10

it's like to to to break open a whole new

1:07:12

generation of voices. Just to be the signature voice

1:07:14

of a generation. Just Adam Durst

1:07:16

saying, Barry,

1:07:18

What

1:07:18

was it like to sing real high for the first time? Nobody

1:07:21

never heard that before. Adam, what

1:07:23

was it like for

1:07:24

you to whine in the California

1:07:27

surf a bias? It must have been

1:07:29

so hard. No one would give

1:07:31

you a chance. What's the

1:07:33

what's the newest

1:07:36

This is very undercooked bit. I just thought of this, but I would like to see

1:07:38

that interview. 0III What's the new

1:07:40

voice of today? No. I'm not. I wasn't even disrespecting

1:07:42

the bit. I think you're Jeff

1:07:45

genuinely think a voice

1:07:47

based inquiry. Yeah. What's the new what's

1:07:49

like, okay. So be if if Barrick gave it was the

1:07:51

voice of the seventies. Yeah. Let's just say, you know, last

1:07:54

week. Yeah. what's

1:07:55

his face? Adam Durits was the voice of, like

1:07:57

I've all turned him right yeah. He was he

1:07:59

he he cracked

1:07:59

open a new code. Like, I think We haven't had

1:08:02

a new like, since the Macarena. What's the last

1:08:04

Dan? I guess, Frosting is pants, but, like, we're we're

1:08:06

overdue for the Cupid shuffle. You're

1:08:08

overlooking the Cupid shuffle, my friend. It's a new

1:08:10

Oh, yeah. The Cupid shuffle? Well,

1:08:12

the Cupid shuffle is the most macarina dance.

1:08:14

think. Okay. I am not familiar with it. Guys, we gotta get out of this gosh darn episode and

1:08:16

I don't know how to do it because there's too

1:08:18

much good stuff to talk about. I know

1:08:22

I'm sorry. I wanna send a rabbit hole of it. I'm just saying maybe in

1:08:24

the comments or something like, I'm hijacking you. I'm sorry.

1:08:26

I wanna know the new week. We're gonna have to

1:08:28

pitch it to we're gonna have to pitch it to the audience.

1:08:31

get up in our DM. Get it not even in the DM's. Get

1:08:33

in the public mentions. And we don't mean voice in the

1:08:35

sort of essence in the

1:08:37

sort of broad, like, what? And who did you use

1:08:39

the twenty twenty two during? I don't

1:08:40

what are we asking to put in

1:08:41

the comments? I can't even No. You guys are talking

1:08:44

about. What singer? girl or

1:08:46

boy has the brand new sound. Like, at that time, and they're really nice, when dirt's

1:08:48

drops, no one had heard

1:08:50

it before. Literally, but literal, like,

1:08:55

tone and tim

1:08:55

to tone. the style of voice, not like style. I'm

1:08:57

just gonna I'm just gonna say Billy Eilish. That's

1:08:59

what I'm gonna say.

1:09:01

Maybe that maybe right. That's a candidate. Close. Yeah.

1:09:03

Close. She's definitely just my answer. Gotta do

1:09:05

something. I like that. Yeah. Pat, it's

1:09:08

been

1:09:08

the ultimate

1:09:08

treat to have you here

1:09:11

-- Thank you. -- chat about this absolute

1:09:13

crucial song. I think we can confidently say that it's

1:09:15

very punched up. And I demand

1:09:17

that you all go download

1:09:19

this song in get it on your

1:09:21

holiday playlist. Sneek it in to the family playlist that goes, you know, you get to the end of

1:09:23

the playlist so many times when you're spinning this

1:09:25

thing up and you're home for the holidays.

1:09:28

Right? Get some

1:09:30

new songs on there and make sure this song is on

1:09:33

it by joining our Patreon at

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only place you can get these bunches. You

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could not played the original long December for your family while you're

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on the fire. This one you can. This one you

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can. Fast enough. There are jingle

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bells. We didn't talk about that. but there's jingle bells through the whole song. There's

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twice as many jingle bells on the chorus, like, on

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a real Christmas song because this is a real Christmas

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'Long. Put it on around the fire. Pat, what

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is

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the best place for people to follow you

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online? pat hassles on

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Instagram and then

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pat hassles dot com. post I love it. I love a good comedian website.

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Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. A lot of

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a lot of topical bits. I'm really

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baking the bit, you know, the boundaries is just

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Linktree man. Yeah. Contact form a Linktree. Oh,

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yeah. Contact form I never

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used. Well, I'm

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going to your website immediately. Thank

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you. And everyone else, fan of the pod, you guys are in for a long December.

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You've been listening

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to punch up

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the jam. That

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was a

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hit gum original.