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Hey everyone and welcome back

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2:36

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2:38

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2:40

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2:42

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Suzanne Humphries. Well,

4:48

hi, everyone, and welcome back to

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Pushing the Limits. Today, I have

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an amazing doctor and scientist and

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specialist, Dr. Suzanne Humphries,

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with me. Welcome to the show,

4:58

Dr. Suzanne. Hi, Lisa. Thank you. I'm

5:01

so stoked to have a bit of your time. It's

5:03

really, really amazing. I apologize to

5:05

your audience for my

5:07

lateness. You've

5:09

been in the garden and we had our times

5:12

mixed up. So it's excellent

5:14

that I've been able

5:16

to talk to you because

5:18

you're a bit of a superstar

5:20

in the world of in science

5:22

and medicine and you've had a

5:24

very interesting career. So you have

5:26

a background. Let's go into a

5:29

little bit into your background. You

5:31

are a nephrologist, an MD,

5:34

a physicist. You've

5:36

got credentials up the wazoo. Maybe

5:38

we start there and then move forward

5:40

from there. Yeah.

5:42

Um, yeah. So let's see.

5:45

We can, we can start even earlier

5:47

than that is that I started out

5:49

as a nursing student and, um, because

5:53

my high school teacher, physics teacher told

5:55

me that I shouldn't take anything that

5:57

has physics in it because I wouldn't

5:59

be smart enough to pass. Brilliant.

6:01

Um, and I passed his class. So I didn't, I think

6:03

he just didn't like me because I was a bit of a

6:05

rabble rouser even back then. But

6:07

anyway, so I went in and I took

6:09

nursing because it didn't require physics. And I really

6:11

liked it. You know, we dissected a cat

6:13

and, you know, we all got our own cat

6:15

to bring home. And after a while, I

6:17

was like, nah, I don't think this

6:19

is what I want to do. I don't

6:21

think I want to dispense drugs to no offense

6:24

to nurses, because I love nurses. But that wasn't,

6:26

it just wasn't my calling being a nurse. And

6:28

if I did, I probably would have

6:30

gone into administration or something like that, because

6:33

I'm a rather a restless person than

6:35

even as a doctor, I've never stayed in

6:37

one place or one job very long

6:39

because I like to just keep learning new

6:41

things and doing new things. So I

6:43

talked to the nursing, I

6:45

don't know what she would have been, like

6:47

the director of the nursing program at Rutgers

6:49

and she was like, yeah, you know, it

6:51

doesn't really, maybe she was happy to get

6:53

rid of me too. Not very suitable. so

6:55

I went and I went to the basement

6:57

of the physics lab for some reason I

7:00

don't know why there was a kind of

7:02

an older student and he was a phd

7:04

student and he was telling me about microprocessors

7:06

and it's the future of medicine and microchips

7:08

I mean how ironic right like this is

7:10

like 30 years ago. Wow. And he's like,

7:12

Oh, you can do physics. No problem. Just

7:14

do it. I'll help you through. And they

7:16

had never had a female physics graduate at

7:18

the campus that I was at at Rutgers.

7:20

So I said, Okay, so I started taking

7:22

courses with no prerequisites, which was a nightmare.

7:25

And I got through, I got through physics, I got

7:27

through it. I wouldn't say that I'm

7:29

a physicist. I wouldn't say that I was

7:31

a rock star. I had like a B plus

7:33

average through the whole thing, but I worked

7:35

my tail off, I'll tell you. And by the

7:37

time I decided I wanted to go to

7:39

medical school, I'll tell you medical school is nothing

7:41

compared to really business of studying physics, honestly.

7:43

I could at least understand medicine. I could at

7:45

least understand anatomy. So I

7:47

took a job in a research

7:49

lab for a couple of years after

7:51

my five year stint at university

7:53

because I had to go longer for

7:56

switching. And I really enjoyed

7:58

the lab. But again, that wasn't it

8:00

for me. I mean, I was the head

8:02

researcher technician, but I didn't want to

8:04

be a technician. And again, no offense to

8:06

technicians, but it just wasn't my calling.

8:08

I was so bored after a while. We're

8:10

doing tissue cultures and we're doing gel

8:12

chromatography and column chromatography and all kinds of

8:14

exciting things, but it didn't excite me.

8:16

Yeah. You know, microtubules.

8:18

It was microtubules is what we

8:20

were looking at in nerves. And

8:23

but that doctor that employed

8:25

me was very supportive of my application to

8:27

medical school and encouraged me to do it

8:29

and I applied and I got in and

8:32

then I went and It was pretty uneventful. I

8:34

got through medical school. I wrote a book

8:36

called Rising from the Dead, which details in

8:39

graphic detail my experience going through medical school

8:41

and how I arrived to where I am

8:43

today. So I went to

8:45

medical school just like everyone else. I went

8:47

and did a residency in the South Bronx because

8:49

I just felt like that's where I was

8:51

going to get the most experience. And

8:53

I really liked the, it was a social

8:55

medicine program, a bunch of liberals now. I can't

8:57

even believe I actually was able to intermix

9:00

with them because my politics to them today is

9:02

so radically different. You know, they

9:04

would completely disown me if probably they

9:06

already have. But

9:08

it was a really good experience. And

9:10

I really did enjoy that program.

9:12

But I left feeling like, yeah, I

9:14

learned a lot about, you know,

9:16

how to interact with patients and community

9:18

medicine and that stuff, but I

9:21

didn't feel like I'd really mastered medicine

9:23

very well. So I thought, and

9:25

I also felt like I was really

9:27

seeing the damage that preventive surveillance

9:29

medicine can do to people.

9:31

So healthy people were coming into me and

9:33

I was just doing stuff that was

9:35

hurting them a lot of the time, you

9:37

know, vaccinating them, doing unnecessary testing on

9:39

them, you know, colonoscopies where you can perforate.

9:41

And yeah, like, I think there's a

9:43

time and a place for just about everything.

9:46

But I felt like, well, let me

9:48

apply my medical knowledge to people

9:51

that really need it. And people that

9:53

don't have kidney function do need

9:55

medicine. You will. Unless you have a

9:57

miracle you die with failing kidneys

9:59

And so that's what I did. I

10:01

specialized in nephrology and I loved

10:03

that I mean the kidneys are fascinating

10:05

and they just they control pretty

10:07

much metabolism of the whole body in

10:09

some way control the production of

10:11

red blood cells that controls calcium Controls

10:13

your bone density your vitamin D

10:15

production. I mean there's so much going

10:17

on with kidneys And so

10:20

I really loved that. And I really

10:22

loved being the dialysis patients and that whole

10:24

experience. I used to bring my dog to

10:26

the dialysis unit and patients really loved it.

10:28

And so those years were really good and

10:30

very prosperous. And I had a beautiful house

10:32

up in Maine. Everybody loved

10:34

me. The administration

10:36

of the hospital, people that needed nephrologists

10:38

were coming to me personally because

10:40

I had such a good reputation. And

10:43

then one day, I

10:47

went in after having a few days off.

10:49

I went into the dialysis unit and a

10:51

patient said to me, no,

10:53

I said to the patient, because the first

10:55

thing when I meet a new patient on dialysis,

10:57

I say, oh, you're new. How long have

10:59

you been on dialysis? And as if he had

11:01

told 20 people and no one listened, I've

11:04

never been on dialysis and I've never had any

11:06

kidney trouble. And I was fine until I got

11:08

that shot. And I was like, oh, what shot?

11:10

That flu shot. So

11:13

that was the year

11:15

that the... It was

11:17

a 2009. H1N1

11:19

was a separate shot

11:22

to the regular flu. And

11:24

sure enough, his kidney function was normal beforehand. I

11:26

went back and checked the GP, and

11:28

then he was on dialysis straight

11:30

afterwards. And I thought, hmm, can

11:33

vaccines cause kidney problems? I'd never

11:35

been taught that. I never. heard

11:37

that. And then I started to

11:39

review the medical literature and yes,

11:41

vaccines can and do cause kidney

11:43

problems, all kinds of kidney problems.

11:45

And I've written extensively on this.

11:47

There's an article out there that

11:50

I wrote on

11:52

vaccination and kidney patients. There are

11:54

articles in the New England Journal

11:56

of Medicine. I've done a video

11:58

called honesty versus policy that details

12:00

that entire situation. And I

12:02

would probably still be a

12:04

nephrologist earning 350 ,000 plus dollars

12:06

a year in living in my

12:09

beautiful house if I didn't

12:11

get so much flak from the

12:13

doctors around me and from

12:15

the administration simply for presenting information

12:17

to them. asking

12:19

them to stop vaccinating my

12:21

acutely ill kidney patients. That's all

12:23

I did, okay? Because

12:25

what happened is the policy

12:27

in the hospital changed so

12:30

that... I could go

12:32

up on, this is what happened one day. I

12:34

went up, I had a 75 year old woman

12:36

who had a severely inflammatory kidney problem, losing massive

12:38

amounts of protein in her urine. I didn't know

12:40

what the problem was, so I had to do

12:42

a biopsy because that's really the only way you

12:44

can see what part of the nephron or interstitium

12:46

is affected or the tubules or whatever. And

12:49

when I got up there, she had

12:52

been given an H1N1 shot and the

12:54

order had my name as the ordering

12:56

physician. And you had done. I

12:58

just stood there and I looked at the nurse

13:00

and I was like, oh, this has to be a

13:02

mistake because I didn't order this. She's like, oh,

13:04

no, this is how we're doing it now. I was

13:06

like, wait, how what? I haven't even admitted the

13:08

patient. I haven't even written an admission note yet. I

13:10

haven't even examined her. And she

13:12

said, well, the pharmacist comes by and

13:14

gives them patient information. And if they

13:16

agree, they get the shot. And then

13:19

the attending physician's name is written as

13:21

the ordering physician. So, you know, that's

13:23

when I started really researching and I

13:25

drafted like a 40 page document with

13:28

tons of conventional medical peer -reviewed

13:30

papers to support my position and

13:32

presented it to the chief

13:34

executive officer, to the director of

13:36

nursing, to anyone that I

13:38

thought would listen. I heard nothing

13:40

back from them. Finally, the

13:42

chair of medicine told me they were

13:44

going to have a meeting to discuss my

13:46

concerns, and I asked if I could

13:48

attend, and they said no, but he would

13:50

report back to me. I know, how

13:52

ridiculous. Yeah, it's kind of... No, so

13:55

they couldn't... Of course, they couldn't respond because

13:57

they knew nothing about what they were talking

13:59

about. So they hired some guy from New Hampshire.

14:02

And I actually named him in honesty

14:04

versus policy. And I showed the document

14:06

that was sent back to me. So

14:08

he basically told me that this is

14:10

going to be a policy for all

14:12

hospitalized patients and that I should get

14:14

used to it. And his supporting evidence

14:17

was that flu shots were given to

14:19

patients with AIDS and they mounted antibodies. That

14:21

was it. That was it. That's what he

14:23

gave me to support. So

14:26

I just thought, okay.

14:29

At that point, I realized that nobody in

14:31

the conventional medical world that was going

14:33

to make a difference would listen to me.

14:35

I was told that I needed to

14:37

conduct my own research study to prove my

14:39

point. And I said, since when does

14:41

a clinician have to prove that an injectable

14:43

substance that is harming numerous other patients

14:45

have to do her own study? So I

14:47

just said, you know what? this isn't

14:49

working out for me anymore. I cannot work

14:51

for you people. I cannot work in

14:53

the hospital. I told them I was in

14:55

a private medical practice. I said I

14:57

quit. I don't want to be here anymore.

14:59

Well, my partners are practically in tears.

15:01

They were like, please don't leave yet. We

15:03

have to replace you if you're going

15:05

to leave. So I stayed on for two

15:07

more years. And I

15:09

felt like I was living among

15:11

the enemy, honestly. I was praised

15:13

and louded all those years up

15:16

until then. And after that, all

15:18

my charts were reviewed. notes

15:20

were reviewed. I was called up for

15:22

writing orders not to. So as soon

15:24

as I would come see a patient

15:26

in the hospital, I would write an

15:28

order, do not vaccinate this patient unless

15:30

I agree to it. And I was

15:33

admonished for doing that and told I

15:35

was not to stop those orders anymore.

15:37

And I didn't stop. I continued to

15:39

do it. I reported every vaccine reaction

15:41

I saw to the adverse event reporting

15:43

system in America. And

15:45

I got kept getting escalated up the

15:47

food chain, getting all saying Someone else will

15:49

be calling you. Someone else will be

15:51

calling you. And I'm like, great. So

15:53

finally, the food chain got to the

15:55

infectious disease director of the state of

15:57

Maine where I was living. And we

15:59

had a very unpleasant chat on the

16:01

phone. And he said to me, what

16:03

happened to you? I said, what happened

16:05

to me? You woke up. Yeah, what

16:07

happened to me? I read the medical literature.

16:10

I now know that those, because they

16:12

were given the inhalable nasal flu shots to

16:14

children with the warning saying that to

16:16

stay away from immune compromised people and that,

16:18

you know, basically they get all the

16:20

symptoms of the flu. I said it's spreading

16:22

the flu. So that bothers me. I

16:24

said it bothers me that none of my

16:26

colleagues know the effective vaccines upon the

16:28

kidney when it's evident from since like the

16:30

1940s, what vaccines can do to the

16:32

kidneys and that people like you are pushing

16:34

me back when I'm the one presenting

16:36

the medical literature. I'm the one putting all

16:38

45 papers in front of you saying

16:40

Here's my position. Yeah, challenge me. And then

16:42

I get a letter back from your

16:44

friend over in New Hampshire with this nonsense

16:46

about AIDS patients. I said, that's what

16:48

happened to me. And he just kept rattling

16:51

on and I just hung up on

16:53

him at that point. And I thought, come

16:55

and get me because I, you know

16:57

what, I just know you're pregnant. So

16:59

I never heard anything back from them

17:01

again. So I carried on, you know,

17:03

filing the reports, whether or not they

17:05

ever made it to the VAERS system.

17:08

Formally, I don't know because I'd never I

17:10

didn't know to follow that up until much

17:12

later. So anyway, I left and I left

17:14

literally not knowing where I was gonna go

17:16

next I just I just prayed to God

17:19

that he would find a way for me

17:21

through this thing I left with no money.

17:23

I because my house I had this big

17:25

house that I was still paying off Yeah,

17:27

so I literally had no money and for

17:29

the first few months I was literally going

17:31

around collecting aluminum aluminium cans to get change

17:33

to put petrol in the tank. You're kidding

17:35

me. What a story. I could

17:37

reinvent myself because you know, I basically

17:40

only knew conventional medicine. I did not want

17:42

to go back to that. I didn't

17:44

want to have a conventional medical office of

17:46

my own. I knew I wanted

17:48

to do something different. I knew since

17:50

early years in my medical residency that really

17:52

what I was was a high paid technician

17:54

for the pharmaceutical industry. And I was really

17:56

always unhappy about it. So I

17:59

thought, fine, I'm going to

18:01

figure this out. So I started

18:03

studying toxic metals and chelation.

18:05

I started studying actual real cell

18:07

biology, the mitochondria, you

18:09

know, oxygenation, oxidative stress, you

18:11

know, reductive treatments, intravenous

18:14

vitamin C. I studied vitamin C for

18:16

about a year. I studied polio for

18:18

probably about three years. And then I

18:20

wrote this book with Roman Bistrianic called

18:22

Dissolving Illusions. So that kind of got

18:25

me off my slump. Um, and I

18:27

had a little bit of an income

18:29

and I continued to reinvest that into

18:31

different courses and going around to different

18:33

workshops and learning more and more. And

18:35

then I finally started seeing patients again.

18:37

And, you know, so since then I've,

18:39

I've done a full ozone study in

18:41

Madrid, Spain. Um, I pretty much, I

18:44

do IV vitamin C ozone. You're insatiable

18:46

man. Like your, your drive is just

18:48

insatiable to keep going and keep learning

18:50

despite this massive and, uh, you know,

18:52

I know what it's like to have

18:54

to start again and to lose everything

18:56

that you've had. Been there a couple

18:58

of times, been there, done it, about

19:00

to do it again. And

19:03

it's damn scary and to leave

19:05

everything that you know. And

19:08

this is, you're like, OK, so let's go

19:10

back to these original patients where you started to

19:12

see damage from the vaccines. And

19:14

then you go and you wake

19:17

up your colleagues and say, hey, this

19:19

is happening. And then you get

19:21

completely ostracized, victimized, you know, hostility. you

19:23

know this starts to happen

19:25

to you and you bravely stand

19:27

up against that and give

19:29

up your whole successfully huge successfully

19:31

career to to go and

19:33

step out and go not this

19:35

is not right and then

19:37

you've you've actually got you are

19:40

part of the the vaxed

19:42

documentary which yeah the second one

19:44

and you've been a part

19:46

of bringing to bringing to light

19:48

what's actually happening with traditional

19:51

vaccines like the

19:53

MMR vaccines, polio, the

19:55

smallpox, HPV, you've

19:57

been uncovering it and all with

19:59

you know the scientific literature or

20:01

everything's backed up by what you're

20:03

not just shooting from the hip

20:06

and saying hey this is my opinion,

20:08

this is all backed up. Can we

20:11

just go back into a little

20:13

bit about what vaccines actually are meant

20:15

to be doing and why why

20:17

are we having problems and why why

20:19

you know like The Polio one

20:21

gets brought up now, right, in the

20:24

current COVID situation. Oh, we

20:26

eradicated Polio. Therefore, this vaccine is

20:28

good. That logic to me is

20:30

completely skewed with because for starters,

20:32

you'll be able to tell us

20:34

the whole Polio story. But it's

20:36

also a completely different thing. And

20:38

it's a completely different technology for

20:40

a starter. So there's no comparison.

20:42

But can you give us a

20:44

bit of background on that? So

20:46

basically only the pro -vaccine can

20:49

get away with the simplicity argument.

20:51

Vaccine save lives. Get your vaccine, or

20:53

you know, like Kamala Harris, this will save

20:55

your life, or Jacinda Ardern, get this vaccine

20:57

to save your life. It's like, and

21:01

then I follow the science. So

21:03

the pro -vaccine have always got

21:05

away with the minimalist argument because

21:07

the mythology around vaccination has been

21:09

so pervasive and so convincing to

21:11

the public. I

21:16

knocked up against that very early on.

21:18

So when I would start showing the scientific

21:20

evidence, and I don't say things without having

21:22

something in black and white to back me

21:24

up, because I can't get away with it.

21:26

I can't just give a quick explanation for

21:28

things, because that's not how it works. So

21:30

if a pro -vaccine person wants to just

21:32

tell you, this is a simplistic argument, you

21:34

have to say flush that out for me,

21:37

please, and ask them questions, because they won't

21:39

be able to answer. Namely, the toxicity

21:41

of aluminium. Ask them about that, because that's

21:43

an argument you cannot lose. Um,

21:45

so when I would argue against the

21:47

flu shots in my own patients, I was

21:49

hit with, well, what about polio? I

21:51

almost called my chapter. Well, what about polio?

21:53

Cause that's what you're so often. What

21:55

about polio? And I'm like, what about polio?

21:58

You tell me about polio. What about

22:00

polio? Well, that vaccine was amazing. And Jonas

22:02

Salk and Albert's happened and blah, blah,

22:04

blah, blah. And I, well, you know, maybe

22:06

it was, let me do some research.

22:08

So that's why I spent three years, at

22:10

least three years just buried in the

22:12

polio research. And I was gifted. the

22:14

library from one of the

22:17

early public health directors in Illinois

22:19

named Herbert Ratner. His daughter

22:21

sent me his entire, he was

22:23

one of the few doctors

22:25

and he was not a quack,

22:27

considered a quack. He was

22:30

the public health commissioner in Oak

22:32

Park, Illinois. And he

22:34

wrote books and he wrote newsletters.

22:36

He wouldn't let his kids take the

22:38

first vaccine. He later let them

22:40

have the Sabin vaccine, but he regretted it. And

22:44

So I was gifted that library and then Dr.

22:46

Sherry Tenpenny sent me a whole bunch of

22:48

books from her and then a lady named Hillary

22:50

in New Zealand sent me an enormous amount of

22:52

info. It was almost like God was saying,

22:54

you need to write about polio. Here it is,

22:56

dump. So I basically studied all that

22:58

stuff inside out. There were public health documents

23:00

that you can't get your hands on any other

23:02

way. I still have them live in digital form.

23:04

I have them in hard copy. I've sent them

23:07

to other people. So if I get knocked

23:09

off, they're still out there. They're still around. And

23:11

so at the end of it all,

23:14

You know I had to answer my own

23:16

questions because I was also brought up with

23:18

oh He were the little kids with the

23:20

short legs and the cast and of course

23:22

nobody wants that right no well what I

23:24

came to learn was that those kids First

23:26

of all, most of them were exposed to

23:28

toxins like DDT, which was sprayed in their

23:30

lunchbox. It was sprayed in their bed. It

23:32

was put on their food. There are

23:34

videos and pictures of kids at the beach and

23:36

in swimming pools being sprayed with looks like fire

23:39

hoses that contain DDT and they'd be dancing in

23:41

front of it because they never thought it was

23:43

good for them. The cows

23:45

that were dipped in arsenic

23:47

got polio. It's like polio is

23:49

a poison disease. Largely

23:52

and the poison. Now see there

23:54

are some people and I want to

23:56

back up because there's a big

23:58

debate within even the vaccine questioning community

24:00

of Are viruses real entities that

24:02

come from the outside or are they

24:04

exosomes that are secreted by your

24:06

body? I don't believe

24:08

that there is There is a black

24:10

and white picture on that because I

24:12

do believe there is a pleomorphic system

24:14

inside the body that can transform I

24:17

know that I see it and And

24:19

when I do live blood analysis, you

24:21

can see that. And there are also

24:23

infections that come from the outside. So

24:25

just stop this nonsense, people. Like, really,

24:27

I don't care who says it. I

24:29

don't care who you're worshiping, what God

24:31

of medicine is telling you that virus

24:33

contagion is not real. It's nonsense, OK?

24:35

That's my opinion. So

24:38

anyway, what I learned from

24:40

the scientific literature is that the

24:42

virus actually permeates the intestines much more

24:44

easily and gets into the nervous

24:46

system much more easily in the face

24:48

of these toxins, okay? So

24:50

if that virus is in your body,

24:52

circulating, and that toxins,

24:55

exactly. However, that

24:57

toxin can cause the very

24:59

same pathophysiology in the dorsal column

25:01

of the spinal cord. That's

25:04

called poliomyelitis. Poliomyelitis is not

25:06

the name of a microbe.

25:09

name of an entity that happens

25:11

within the nervous system. a

25:13

paralysis causing thing. And so

25:15

many things, in my book, Disolving

25:17

Illusions, a whole page of things

25:19

that still cause polio myelitis. It's

25:22

just not considered to be caused

25:24

from the wild polio virus. But

25:26

how those children were treated back

25:28

then. So there was the poisoning

25:30

aspect and then there was the

25:32

treatment aspect. So you take a

25:34

child who's screaming in pain off

25:36

to the operating room and cut

25:38

and sever their tendons and straighten

25:40

out their leg that's already having

25:42

an uncoordinated muscle balance. and

25:44

put them in a cast for two

25:46

years, and anyone will end up with a

25:48

short leg and be unable to walk.

25:50

In fact, they did mouse experiments where they

25:52

immobilized or, you know, changed their nervous

25:54

system very similarly, and there was atrophy of

25:56

the mouse limbs. And again, all this

25:59

physical literature is in book.

26:01

And so it was the treatment of

26:04

those kids that was causing a lot

26:06

of the problem. And then along comes

26:08

this upstart nurse from Australia in the

26:10

outback. who was facing polio myelitis and

26:12

the doctor basically said you know she

26:14

was back then they would send I

26:16

don't know some sort of a telegram

26:18

message to the doctor and the doctor

26:20

would write back the doctor basically said

26:22

to sister name a sister Elizabeth Kenny

26:25

because nurses back then were called sister

26:27

she wasn't none and said it's polio

26:29

myelitis be creative do whatever you can

26:31

so she did She was actually a

26:33

brilliant lady. She had actually invented it.

26:35

She was an inventor. She had invented

26:37

a stretcher and she was very young

26:39

at the time, probably in her late

26:41

twenties. And so she started doing different,

26:43

um, cum, um, poultices, warm poultices and

26:46

physiotherapy. She was one of the early

26:48

pioneers of therapy. And she

26:50

was not only getting these kids out

26:52

of trouble, getting them walking again to the

26:54

point that American doctors woke up to

26:56

her and invited her to Minnesota to go

26:58

lead a new clinic, um, which she

27:00

did, but they would only send her the

27:02

kids that they had already done everything

27:04

to and then said you fixed them and

27:07

she did fix them. She fixed a

27:09

whole lot of them. So

27:11

that proves the treatment aspect. So we've got

27:13

the poisoning aspect, the treatment aspect, and

27:15

then we have to look at the research

27:17

that was being done to show that

27:19

the vaccine got rid of polio, which was

27:21

just as much of a scam as

27:23

what we're seeing today. Except today's what way

27:25

worse and that's why I've been pretty

27:27

much silent with what's happening today because let's

27:29

like look I've been preaching this for

27:31

10 years. Yeah trying to tell the public

27:33

What's wrong with the vaccination program? Why

27:35

they don't work? Why vaccines cause new strains

27:37

out that are that can be more

27:39

virulent or more contagious because they put pressure

27:41

on a micro just like antibiotics So,

27:43

I mean, I've been saying if you hate

27:45

on a brick wall, right? Yeah, I'm

27:47

all out of wind now. So So

27:50

it's basically we're seeing and I saw the

27:53

build up. So I'm not surprised. People are

27:55

you shocked at what's happening today? No, I'm

27:57

not shocked at what's happened because I've been

27:59

telling you this is going to happen. There's

28:01

a big financial reset happening and this is

28:03

a tool to get there. Okay. That's all

28:05

it is. There's nothing to do with science.

28:07

This has nothing to do with it. It

28:09

has to do with politics and what the

28:11

puppet masters are telling people to do. So

28:13

anyway, back up to polio. And so we

28:15

have the research aspect. So what happened was

28:17

they had this big This

28:20

big campaign, the march of dimes,

28:22

so people basically started sending dimes to

28:25

the White House because Franklin Delano

28:27

Roosevelt, the polio president, who probably was

28:29

poisoned by some sort of chemical

28:31

coming out from a stream processing plant

28:33

upstream of where his estate was

28:35

in New York State, I think it

28:37

was. Don't quote me on that. Got

28:40

paralyzed straight after that. was

28:43

treated wrongly just like everybody else and

28:45

ended up with a limp. So

28:47

he was the poster child later determined

28:49

to have Guillain -Barre syndrome and not

28:51

actually polio. So all this

28:53

energy was put into this vaccine.

28:55

So much energy, so much American

28:57

hype, you know, the polio, you

28:59

know, heart strings, pictures of the

29:02

children donate, donate, donate. Nobody wanted

29:04

this to happen to their kid.

29:07

Theaters were shut down. Swimming pools were

29:09

shut down. You know, it was a,

29:11

it was My mom loved it. Yeah, an

29:13

epidemic, and it was funny enough,

29:15

happened around orchards. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah.

29:17

So, so

29:19

there was so much hype and

29:21

money put into this March of Dimes

29:23

campaign that it wasn't allowed to

29:25

fail. Yeah, yeah. And there were scientists

29:27

at the time that I quote

29:29

in the book that were saying, initially,

29:32

Many of the scientists were arguing

29:34

the veracity of the design of the

29:36

study and the vaccine. They argued

29:38

that the vaccine was going to cause

29:40

problems because they weren't actually killing

29:42

the polio virus properly and it was

29:44

coming back to life. And

29:46

all those doctors were got rid

29:48

of, not just fired. And

29:50

then the end, everyone was very

29:52

agreeable was the exact quote. And

29:55

so the Francis trial was the big trial

29:57

that looked at hundreds of thousands of children

29:59

after they were vaccinated and looked at the

30:01

rates of polio. And those

30:03

numbers were so highly manipulated. There was a

30:05

doctor named Dr. Frederick Plenner, which most people

30:07

have heard of because of his vitamin C

30:09

work. But he broke down the

30:11

trial study and said everything that was wrong, he

30:13

was really angry. And there were lots of

30:16

doctors just like today going, wait a minute. It

30:18

doesn't make any sense. And this is completely

30:20

wrong. And I'm not going to give this to

30:22

my patients. Well, back then they weren't fired. They

30:26

were just ignored. there's

30:29

a federal register from I

30:31

believe 1986 because there was so

30:33

much controversy about the polio

30:35

vaccines. There was an announcement in

30:37

the federal register that said

30:39

any doubt as to the safety

30:42

of the vaccines is not

30:44

allowed to exist in order to

30:46

in order to maintain public

30:48

belief in the vaccination. And that's

30:50

exactly what's happening now. That's

30:52

right. So they learn each time

30:54

they do this, pull this stuff on the

30:56

public, they learn how far they can push

30:58

people, who's going to push back, and how

31:00

to deal with it. So over

31:02

time, they've dealt with the chiropractors. They've

31:04

dealt with the holistic doctors that

31:07

wanted to do something different. They've dealt

31:09

with vaccine denying parents. And

31:11

now they're dealing with all of

31:13

us with basically toxic you

31:16

know, injections, I won't even call them

31:18

vaccines. So that's the basis that it

31:20

was built on this polio. And even before

31:22

that, there was an even bigger scam in

31:24

terms of the smallpox vaccine, which I wrote

31:26

a chapter up to see that's a couple

31:28

of generations away from us, whereas most of

31:30

us know an adult who had polio who

31:32

has the short leg. And

31:34

we don't see that anymore. So I had

31:36

to say, okay, well, If I'm going to

31:39

say the polio vaccine didn't work, then why

31:41

don't I see short legs anymore? And that's

31:43

when I had to really research the treatment.

31:45

And that's the answer to that one is

31:47

why we don't see. And we do. If

31:49

you go over to India and those places,

31:51

you will see that. Is this also a

31:53

renaming thing? Like they've called it something else.

31:55

And it's like the statistics now with all

31:57

of a sudden the deaths from flu have

31:59

disappeared. The statistics have dropped like in Australia.

32:02

I know from 880 or something to zero,

32:04

where did they go? They went

32:06

to somewhere else. I was just going to get to

32:08

that because that's part of the research. So basically

32:10

the study, after they

32:12

invented the vaccine and did

32:14

this study, they changed

32:16

the definition of polio. So

32:18

before the study and

32:20

the vaccine, you were considered

32:22

polio. Anyone could report

32:24

it because it was considered

32:26

a public health, you

32:28

know, mitzvah to get financing

32:30

to the patient. So

32:32

anyone could report the case of

32:34

polio. All you had to have was

32:36

paralysis in one muscle group that

32:38

lasted 24 hours. After

32:40

the vaccine, you had to

32:43

have a specialist diagnosed

32:45

polio and it wasn't considered

32:47

polio unless you had

32:49

paralysis on two separate exams

32:51

60 days apart. Well,

32:54

the fact of the matter is most people would have

32:56

recovered by 60 days if you just left them alone. And

32:58

there were many other, so I'm just

33:00

giving you one major issue as far

33:03

as the renaming. And there was a

33:05

study in Michigan where they looked after

33:07

the vaccine was implemented all throughout Michigan.

33:09

There were 2000, some around 2000 cases

33:11

of polio in kids. They tested the

33:13

stool for polio virus. They tested the

33:15

blood for evidence of polio virus infection.

33:17

And they looked for other infections. And

33:19

they found in about three quarter of

33:21

them that there was no polio. Whatever

33:23

there. So now the argument is yeah,

33:25

but other things cause polio, but we

33:27

got rid of that one. Okay Well,

33:29

congratulations because we still have a whole

33:31

lot of you know, enteroviruses causing nerve

33:33

problems in children and and after you

33:35

vaccinate them They start making announcements. Oh

33:37

polio like virus happening in children. Well,

33:39

it's not polio though because we've eradicated

33:41

So you just call it something different

33:43

and that's how it works. Yeah, yeah

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this is just mind -boggling. And

34:24

then if you go forward

34:26

into time, things like the HPV,

34:29

which is when I was

34:31

a young woman just coming into

34:33

trend for cervical cancers and

34:35

stuff. Now, what's wrong with that

34:37

one, for example? it

34:44

was very similar to this injection that we're

34:46

seeing now in terms of what's happening with

34:48

the nervous system and the denial of the

34:50

medical system. So all I can tell you,

34:52

so I was well out of the medical

34:54

system by the time HPV vaccines came along.

34:57

And I researched it and I thought,

34:59

oh, let's see, every vaccine I

35:01

sat down and I said, okay, let's

35:03

look at what the disease is

35:05

like, how lethal it is, how

35:07

it can be treated, what

35:09

the vaccine efficacy is. and what the

35:11

safety of the vaccine is. These are the

35:13

five questions you need to ask before

35:15

you take any vaccine or give it to

35:17

your kid. OK, because, you know, there

35:20

may be a matching vaccine for the disease,

35:22

but it might that any protection you get

35:24

might not last very long. And it's

35:26

certainly possible that when and if you get

35:28

the disease, it can actually make things

35:31

worse. It was vaccinated. So we found that

35:33

there was negative efficacy in. women who

35:35

had the vaccine who already had HPV in

35:37

their bodies and they never tested for

35:39

it first. You know, you could be born

35:41

with HPV. Lizards have HPV. There are

35:43

so many strains of HPV out there and

35:45

it's so prevalent. It comes and it

35:47

goes, giving your throat come and go, giving

35:49

the cervix come and go. You can

35:51

have pathology in the cervix that can go

35:54

away if you change your rotten lifestyle

35:56

and stop smoking and, you know, eating. So

36:00

there are ways to deal with

36:02

the infection when you have it. And

36:04

yes, it can be associated with

36:06

certain cancers, but it's not the only

36:09

association. There are lots of other

36:11

things usually surrounding that and lifestyle issues.

36:13

So they come up with this vaccine

36:15

that's loaded with aluminium. And then the

36:17

second round had twice the amount of

36:20

aluminium, more than any other vaccine that's

36:22

ever been made. And

36:24

it has these different strains in it.

36:26

And so it might have lowered those

36:28

particular strains, but then other strains cropped

36:30

up around it that ended up being

36:32

even more troublesome. And look, my videos

36:34

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36:36

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36:39

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hacked and attacked every which way you

36:51

can imagine, but I've got somebody on

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it right now Managing it for me

36:55

So yeah, so I've already, you know,

36:57

I've been through pretty much every vaccine

37:00

except for rabies and yellow fever and

37:02

the ones I just don't care about.

37:05

They're not affecting newborn infants. And

37:07

that was really my concern. So I started

37:09

out with adults and then I started to, I

37:11

saw the abuse that was happening. Look,

37:14

I had an employee that was hired

37:16

to work in our hospital kitchen who

37:18

was mandated to get a measles shot.

37:20

She ended up on dialysis. And

37:22

then she ended up with thyroid disorders. I

37:25

mean, the woman never came off dialysis and everyone knew it

37:27

was from the vaccine. It was written in a chart in

37:29

the vaccine, but it was like, oh, but it's only one

37:31

in a million. She was just one in a million. They

37:33

all seem to be one in a million. There's a lot

37:35

of one in a million. She could be working in the

37:37

kitchen right now instead of coming to us. The

37:40

life destroyed, actually. So I've seen high,

37:42

middle and hypertension happen after tetanus vaccines.

37:45

I've seen all kinds of things happen

37:47

after the chickenpox, shingles vaccines. So.

37:50

My determination in adults is any vaccine

37:52

can be a problem. Maybe it

37:54

won't be maybe it won't be obvious

37:57

early on but later on probably

37:59

sorry, is it the aluminum

38:01

and mercury and the whatever

38:03

other shit they're putting in these

38:05

things Well, a complicated

38:07

question because because then I went

38:09

and I started looking at

38:11

childhood vaccines and what I did

38:13

was I studied the development

38:15

of the fetal and infant immune

38:17

system how it works how

38:19

it's supposed to be programmed to

38:21

be maximally effective and protective

38:23

and non -reactive to things it

38:25

shouldn't react to. And

38:28

the problem is that babies are

38:30

looked at in terms of being insufficient

38:32

or being, you know, lacking something.

38:34

But that's absolutely not true. Babies

38:36

are born with a quiescent immune system

38:38

because what's supposed to happen doesn't mean

38:40

the immune system's not there because it

38:42

can react. But it's it's

38:44

it's almost like it's got clamps on

38:46

it to hold it down while it's

38:48

drinking its mother's milk that are loaded

38:50

with antigens Loaded with activated T cells

38:52

loaded with antibodies loaded with proteins that

38:54

can kill cancer cells literally that they

38:57

use in the oncology Wow, you know

38:59

The acronym for this one protein is

39:01

hamlet H a m l e t

39:03

Yeah, and it's actually a nutrient it

39:05

can fight off encapsulated bacteria like pneumococcus

39:07

So so I so that showed me

39:09

that okay. Well, there's a plan in

39:11

place there I didn't really care where

39:13

the truth fell. I didn't have an

39:15

investment. All I did have done is

39:17

lose money, lose reputation, nearly get killed.

39:20

You know, it's it's like I've won

39:22

nothing over this except for my soul.

39:24

That's all I've won. That's all I

39:26

ever cared about. So integrity.

39:28

It's code, Susan. I saw what was

39:30

happening to these infants. And

39:32

so your question just now was

39:34

related to other vaccines. So what's

39:36

the problem? So the problem, I

39:38

would say the biggest problem with

39:41

the childhood vaccines especially

39:43

before the age of two years,

39:45

is that they are disrupting

39:47

the normal programming, normal blueprint of

39:49

that child's immune system and

39:51

causing them to be hyper reactive.

39:54

And once that happens, all

39:56

hell breaks loose. That's when the

39:58

ear infections start happening. The ear

40:01

tubes, the antibiotics. So you

40:03

have a kid on antibiotics. already sick,

40:05

microbiomes destroyed, and then what do you

40:07

do? You throw another vaccine into them.

40:09

And that, in my opinion, is why

40:11

the MMR was labeled as one of

40:13

the worst ones. When in my opinion,

40:15

it's actually probably one of the better

40:17

ones, because it's at least a live

40:19

viral vaccine that's not loaded with mercury.

40:21

It's not loaded with alimony. It doesn't

40:23

have any of that crap in it.

40:25

The program's the immune system towards the

40:27

TH1. which is the more cell -mediated

40:30

frontline system as opposed to killed vaccines

40:32

that have your aluminium and your mercury. Those

40:35

go to HTH2. The

40:37

thing is, that pro -vaccine will tell you, they're

40:39

good for your baby, they'll save your life.

40:41

I'm telling you, look, I can't explain this

40:43

to you in two minutes, but basically it

40:45

defies the normal development of the infant immune

40:47

system and causes it to be psychotic. I

40:50

was introduced to a Steiner school

40:52

population around this time that I

40:54

was waking up. And I

40:56

was like, and I told one of the mothers

40:58

off because her kid was playing with hammer

41:01

and nail and hadn't had a tetanus shot. And

41:04

someone in the room said to me, well,

41:06

Suzanne, what do you know about tetanus? And

41:08

I perked up with my arrogant doctor attitude.

41:10

And I said, well, I know you don't

41:12

want to get it. And I know it

41:14

causes lockjaw. And I know she's not vaccinated.

41:17

And then after a while, I sat back

41:19

and I watched week after week after week.

41:21

And I realized these kids have never been

41:23

on antibiotics. They don't

41:25

have autism. Yeah, they are creative. They're

41:27

happy. They can play by themselves

41:29

all the things I could do as

41:31

a child. I was constantly on

41:33

antibiotics I was a way of life.

41:35

How did the population survive without

41:37

I figured there must be so much

41:39

death before antibiotics. Well, there wasn't

41:41

Most people that were dying were dying

41:43

either in infancy or because of

41:45

you know, psychologists who refused to wash

41:47

their hands and gave purple fever

41:49

to the mother or falling off a

41:51

cliff or hunting accidents, that kind

41:53

of stuff. So this mythology

41:55

about the lifespan being increased because of

41:57

vaccination, another lie. And I tell you

42:00

all the details of that in dissolving

42:02

illusions. So, so here I

42:04

have this unvaccinated population. And now

42:06

there's been several facts on that studies

42:08

that show that the rates, yes,

42:10

the rates of infections for the Quote,

42:12

vaccine preventable diseases is higher in

42:14

the unvaccinated kids. Yes, they'll get chickenpox.

42:16

Yes. They're

42:18

all going to get hooting cough. Even if you've had

42:20

four shots, you're eventually going to get hooping cough. It just

42:23

won't be called that because the doctor will say, oh,

42:25

it's just a bad cough, but it's not hooping cough. So

42:27

measles vaccine is probably the most effective one.

42:29

It would be nice if it was just given

42:31

by itself. I would have preferred if it

42:33

was never given at all on the planet, but

42:35

now that it's unavailable and you basically can

42:38

stand the risk of getting it as an adult,

42:40

which can be worse. you know, we're in

42:42

a bit of a pickle because of the vaccine.

42:44

So my determination at the

42:46

end of this was that

42:49

I don't personally believe that

42:51

any vaccine is worth taking. None

42:53

of them. I don't care

42:55

if you decide to vaccinate yourself, if you're an

42:58

adult that can make your own decisions, but

43:00

those kind of bother me that you're going to

43:02

enlist your child into a vaccine. And isn't

43:04

it funny how nobody cared, okay, oh, kids need

43:06

their shots, but now that they're coming for

43:08

us, all of a sudden it's a big problem

43:10

when they're coming for you, but you're perfectly

43:12

happy to hand your baby over to the doctor

43:15

and have it come back screaming for three

43:17

days. Believe your bloody doctor. Yeah, to believe them.

43:19

Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, the lies are

43:21

stacked on top of lies. written on top of

43:23

mythology. And I don't

43:25

believe that any of the vaccines

43:27

are worth taking. Now, get it started

43:29

as a benevolent endeavor, maybe. But

43:32

look, all the data is there

43:34

now to say we should be

43:36

questioning the programs. But the problem

43:38

is, and even conventional pro -vaccine

43:40

doctors will tell you, like Dr.

43:42

Peter Abe, AABY, that once a

43:44

vaccine is introduced into the program,

43:46

they won't take it out. Even

43:48

if they take out. They've proven

43:50

in Africa that if you give

43:52

these killed vaccines, like DPT, the

43:54

death rate is much higher after those shots

43:56

than it is if you were to just leave

43:58

them alone. It's not from the death theory

44:00

or the pertussis or tetanus. It's from other things

44:03

because of what I've just told you about.

44:05

It's to skew. So today

44:07

we're in this situation where The

44:10

public has swallowed the Kool -Aid, believed the

44:12

mythology, terrorized, afraid to die. We're never

44:14

supposed to die, right? Nobody's supposed to die

44:16

anymore. It doesn't matter what kind of

44:19

life you're living. So long as you didn't

44:21

die, it's worth the intervention. Get your

44:23

KFC with your vaccine. And

44:25

so they've swallowed this one because A, they've

44:27

been terrorized, B, they've been told they can't work,

44:30

can't take jobs anymore, and they believe in

44:32

vaccinations. Well, I think a lot of people are

44:34

going to wake up, but it's probably going

44:36

to be too late for Too late for most

44:38

people, yeah. And the horrible thing

44:40

is they're coming for pregnant women, they're coming for

44:42

children. Unless

44:44

you're a scientist like you are,

44:46

or you're even like a

44:48

lay person like me who researches

44:50

the crap out of everything, then

44:53

you don't have a show of

44:55

understanding the science. So of course,

44:57

you're going to believe the narrative

44:59

from the authorities that you have

45:01

trusted your entire life. You

45:04

watch especially in the older

45:06

population, they are used to

45:08

the 7 o 'clock news

45:10

or the 6 o 'clock news.

45:12

That's the way they consume

45:14

their information. And that's the

45:17

only source. All of those

45:19

mainstream media, which have been

45:21

all bought off from whoever's

45:23

behind this whole thing. And

45:25

it's one track mind. And

45:27

it's been proven overseas, not

45:30

even this situation.

45:33

We know that it's doing damage. And

45:35

I mean, I've spent the last

45:37

six years rehabilitating my mum, now going

45:39

through a cancer journey. I

45:41

tell you what, it's the same thing with

45:44

cancer. It's the same bullshit. It's the same

45:46

bullshit when I see, you know, like with

45:48

mum with a brain injury, that hyperbaric

45:50

oxygen therapy is a powerful intravenous

45:52

vitamin C and all the other things

45:54

that I do. is a

45:56

powerful intervention for people with brain

45:58

injuries or for people with dementia

46:00

or for other things. Never going

46:03

to see the light of day

46:05

unless people listen to things like

46:07

this because there's no money behind

46:09

it and we are facing this

46:11

massive problem with pharmaceutical companies running

46:13

the entire ship. They're running the

46:16

whole medical system, the whole medical

46:18

schools. Everything has been influenced by

46:20

this and I can't prove that

46:22

but that's my opinion. And

46:25

I've seen it in my own family's health

46:27

and I've had to fight to get what

46:29

I need for them. And

46:32

this to me is

46:34

just another episode of the

46:36

same BS. Yeah, in

46:39

a lot of ways it is. I'd say

46:41

the exception is that I do think the field

46:43

of oncology has something to offer. The

46:46

field of vaccinology has

46:48

nothing to offer, but an

46:50

oncologist is selectively using

46:52

chemotherapy in cases that can't

46:55

actually be cured. But

46:57

then, but you can get like my

46:59

dad had rip -roaring cancer diagnosed with basically

47:01

tumors just popping up in his body overnight.

47:04

He got chemotherapy and we got

47:06

nine good months with him. I

47:08

consider that good. And someone I work

47:10

with now has leukemia. He's 84.

47:12

What didn't want the drugs? Didn't want the drugs

47:15

for three years. Then when the white count

47:17

went up to 240 ,000, he took a low

47:19

dose of an oral monoclonal antibody. And

47:21

he's doing great now, but he stopped it. OK?

47:23

So you have to selectively use it and

47:25

then body. I'm doing the same. Yeah.

47:27

Do everything like you're doing. And

47:29

then the other thing I'd say is

47:31

that with this current vaccine, with

47:33

this current biological, I should

47:35

say, Yes, it doesn't make

47:38

look all the other ones made a little

47:40

more sense in this one like what disease

47:42

do you know of that if you have

47:44

the disease you're told that you're you don't

47:46

even though the medical literature tells you that

47:48

you've got solid immunity that like you're the

47:50

90 % chance you're not going to get reinfected.

47:53

and you got an over 99 %

47:55

survival rate in certain age groups

47:57

that you still have to take

47:59

the vaccine, not once, not twice,

48:01

but probably ongoing. What

48:04

vaccine do you know of like

48:06

that? Like literally if I have

48:08

COVID, I can't say, here's my

48:10

antibodies, here's my doctor, here's my

48:12

PCR test. I don't want the

48:14

vaccine. They're like, nope, you have

48:16

to have it. No, sorry, that

48:19

doesn't make sense. Number two is

48:21

that this vaccine, was created way

48:23

too fast and the adverse reaction.

48:25

So if you have an anaphylactic

48:27

reaction to your first shot, you

48:29

will not be allowed to be

48:31

exempted from your second shot. You're

48:34

told that you have to go

48:36

into the intensive care unit, which

48:38

is supposedly overrun with COVID patients.

48:40

I don't know where they're going.

48:42

I've got a girlfriend that's in

48:44

the executive thing. They had anaphylactic

48:46

reactions. to, in her case,

48:48

flu vaccine. And she's still being told she

48:51

has to get it. And if she

48:53

dies, they'll resuscitate her. Even

48:56

you had anaphylaxis to the COVID

48:58

shot, you still have to get

49:00

the next one in intensive care

49:02

unit unless some doogie Howard doctor

49:04

that's put in charge of exemptions

49:06

approves it, which they're not going

49:08

to, not approving anything. So

49:11

that's why I say, when people are

49:13

like, why do you think it's going on?

49:15

Well, all I can tell you is

49:17

that the science doesn't make sense. The politicians

49:20

that are touting science don't make sense,

49:22

and that there has to be a bigger

49:24

agenda here, and they're setting us up

49:26

for something. Now, what it is, I have

49:28

some clues. I think this financial reset

49:30

part of it. I think conditioning the younger

49:32

generations towards, you know, the QR codes

49:34

to get into places, bribery, coercion, and the

49:36

problem is they've got the majority now. So

49:39

unless people start waking up in

49:41

droves, we're done. Yeah. we are done

49:43

if we don't wake up and

49:45

this is why you know we're having

49:47

these brave courageous conversations at great

49:49

expense to ourselves possibly because we somebody

49:51

has to stand up if we're

49:53

not going to stand up then who

49:55

the hell is you know and

49:57

we're slowly you know heading into a

49:59

really horrific scenario where we're losing

50:01

more and more of our freedoms and

50:03

we're being more and more controlled

50:06

and this you know apart from the

50:08

whole vaccine side of things this

50:10

is you know scares

50:12

the crap out of me to

50:14

be blatantly honest. And all

50:16

we can do is keep trying to

50:18

hit our heads against the brick

50:20

wall and let a few people know

50:22

and hopefully wake up more and

50:24

more people to what's actually going on.

50:26

And none of us understand we're

50:28

not the elite billionaires of the world.

50:31

We don't know exactly what they

50:33

have planned for us, but it ain't

50:35

anything good, I don't think. And

50:37

it's all part of this new reset.

50:41

So if anybody is listening to this

50:43

and they're like, who the hell

50:45

is Dr. Suzanne Humphries? And what she's

50:47

saying is just completely blowing my

50:49

mind, but I want to check all

50:52

this out. I want you to

50:54

encourage you to go and read dissolving

50:56

illusions and rising from the dead.

50:58

And you may understand a little bit

51:00

more. Dr. Suzanne Humphries

51:02

is a absolutely brilliant

51:04

scientist and doctor and is

51:06

really world renowned. Like

51:09

you are really well known.

51:11

You know, when I first heard

51:13

of you, I was not

51:15

sort of aware of your celebrity

51:17

status, shall we say, in

51:19

this realm. But

51:21

it's so important, you know, this work that

51:23

you're doing. And I think it's so brave

51:25

of you to give up. I'm

51:30

going through a situation in my own

51:32

family where my husband and my brother

51:34

are losing their jobs. I can't work

51:36

either properly because of the current mandates

51:38

that are coming in. It

51:40

is a huge loss to

51:42

us, to our families, to

51:44

our whole careers that we're

51:46

passionate about. Do you

51:48

think, do you really think we're

51:50

tin hat wearing weirdos? that

51:52

have nothing to lose. We have

51:54

a tonne to lose just

51:56

as you lost so much when

51:59

you gave up your very

52:01

lucrative practice in order to bring

52:03

the truth to light and

52:05

to actually research this. And we're

52:07

doing the same thing. Do

52:09

you think the 1300 medical staff

52:11

who have left their current

52:13

positions are all idiots? Or

52:15

do you think they're seeing things and

52:17

know things that you don't know? you know,

52:19

like this is the question I want

52:21

people to just think in their own minds

52:23

about, you know, because this is this

52:25

is really, really important. Dr.

52:27

Suzanne, anything else that you'd like

52:29

to add? I mean, I didn't

52:31

really go into the whole aluminium.

52:36

The adju... How do you say that

52:38

word? Adjutants? Adjuvants? Adjuvants,

52:40

I can never say that word. In

52:42

all of them or in many of

52:45

the vaccines and I

52:47

would like to also just touch

52:49

briefly if I can on the

52:51

mRNA technology, because this is a

52:53

new technology that is more, is

52:55

it altering our genetics?

52:58

That's a question that I have in

53:00

my hand. Is it actually getting into

53:02

our DOOM line? Is it changing us

53:04

permanently? Lisa, don't you

53:06

know Helen Petusas Harris says that is not

53:08

altering your genes and then it just

53:11

goes into your muscle and it stays there.

53:13

It stays there in your immune cells.

53:15

Just come and talk to it and then

53:17

go do good things for your body.

53:19

So I mean seriously, this is your talking

53:21

head in New Zealand who was basically

53:23

forced through her PhD program to do the

53:25

job that she's doing. So

53:27

you have to just look at this nonsense.

53:29

These people are spewing. I mean, I know a

53:31

little bit about New Zealand because I've been

53:33

there so many times. So I think we can

53:35

still push this back. I think the key

53:37

is going to be more people waking up, resisting,

53:39

not saying, I'm going to take the shot

53:41

because I have to pay my mortgage. Look, OK,

53:43

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53:45

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55:16

to the show. Also

55:21

want to say, don't underestimate

55:23

COVID. So I'm not saying COVID's

55:25

a picnic. Look, I have a

55:27

friend in the States who's a

55:29

doctor, his mother died from it, his

55:32

brother just died from it and

55:34

his uncle died from it. So there

55:36

are certain genetic types and, you

55:38

know, basically allergic types that are going

55:40

to react very poorly to spike

55:42

protein, whether it comes from a vaccine

55:44

or whether it comes from an

55:46

infection. I suggest that people go to

55:49

that South African doctor videos in

55:51

your country. It's voices for freedom that

55:53

did the video on Dr. Shankara

55:55

Chetty. Chetty, Dr. Chetty. the man right

55:57

now. Like Zelenko, fine. Zelenko had

55:59

death, okay? His protocol is different. Chetty

56:01

has treated 7 ,000 patients, no

56:04

death, okay? That's what you want to

56:06

look at death. Okay, because death is the

56:08

bad outcome Yes, and so he looks

56:10

at the allergic phenomenon that happens on day

56:12

eight And that really needs to be

56:14

targeted and and and looked at and people

56:16

need to be prepared And so I

56:18

suggest go listen to that video. Don't take

56:20

COVID lightly Look isolation quarantine is a

56:23

biblical thing. It's been around forever. It's one

56:25

of the most effective do Do not

56:27

go if you think you're sick stay the

56:29

heck home. Okay. I say this all

56:31

the time Tell people that are coming to

56:33

visit you that is sick make sure

56:35

that they know beforehand Stay keep your distance

56:37

from them and have other people bring

56:39

stuff to your house because I don't care

56:42

if it's the flu I don't want

56:44

the flu. I hate the flu. I don't

56:46

really want any of these things I

56:48

don't want any of it. So yes, you

56:50

have to take this infection which it

56:52

is they've probably a

56:54

bio weapon infection that is now

56:56

mutating. You know, fortunately, the

56:58

mutation seems to be making it

57:00

less virulent, but more contagious. Yeah,

57:03

which is the usual path. Yeah. And

57:05

so take it seriously. Don't

57:07

spread it around. Don't go, oh, I want to catch

57:09

COVID. Let me go over COVID. Probably stop that. And

57:12

what would you do, like from a,

57:14

you know, vitamins and nutrients

57:16

perspective, what would you be doing like

57:18

your protocol for? Well, I don't have

57:20

a protocol because I don't like protocols.

57:22

That's one of the reasons I left

57:24

conventional medicine, the fricking protocols, the Ben

57:26

diagrams, the flow charts. It's like people

57:28

are not, you can't put them into

57:30

protocols. You can't put them into flow

57:32

charts. They're all different. We all have

57:34

different allergic profiles. We're all different ages.

57:36

We have different underlying conditions. We have

57:38

different degrees of scurvy or vitamin C

57:41

deficiency. We have different zinc

57:43

deficiency. I say

57:45

find a doctor that will work

57:47

with you, or naturopath even,

57:49

or a chiropractor. We didn't

57:51

talk about chiropractors, but chiropractors literally saved

57:53

my life when I left Conventional Medicine. They

57:55

got behind me and they held me

57:57

up. Every time I fell down, they picked

57:59

me back up, they would invite me

58:01

to their conferences, and God bless them all.

58:04

Wonderful adjustments, and still one

58:06

of my primary practitioners is

58:08

a chiropractor. So don't underestimate

58:10

the power of chiropractic, naturopathic. You

58:13

know, I'm going to rattle off a list of

58:15

things that I think you should have in your home,

58:17

but I'm not going to give you a protocol.

58:19

I'm not going to tell you it's going to save

58:21

your life because if you don't know what you're

58:24

doing, you need to get somebody that does. So go

58:26

watch Dr. Chetty's video. Everybody

58:30

needs to have some zinc. I like

58:32

the drops. That's one milligram drop in their

58:34

house. Everybody needs to have

58:36

sodium ascorbate in their house, not

58:38

with a bunch of binders and fillers,

58:40

not calcium ascorbate, sodium ascorbate. If

58:46

you want to get a flavored one for

58:48

your kids fine, but make sure it has

58:50

ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate It's low on

58:52

sugar because if you take a lot of

58:54

sugar at the same time you take vitamin

58:56

C The receptors compete with each other and

58:58

you just can end up with a high

59:00

show Yeah, so that's one of the things

59:02

I do like high nebulized hydrogen peroxide. So

59:05

you need to it has to be food

59:07

grade. It's very important

59:09

food grade. Yeah, I

59:11

remember Kola did a video on exactly

59:13

how to mix it and and you know

59:15

get it but if you put if

59:17

you dilute it in saline you have to

59:19

have a compressor nebulizer like a loud

59:21

tabletop one if you a handheld one you

59:23

can't dilute in sodium. Chloride and

59:25

salt water because it will rust. Okay,

59:28

a lot of people are finding that out

59:30

a little too late But you can

59:32

nebulize vitamin C. You can nebulize food grade

59:34

hydrogen peroxide and it will make a

59:36

difference I suggest having some antihistamines present because

59:38

on day eight if you have an

59:40

allergic reaction You could you could require that

59:42

but you're probably if you have a

59:44

severe allergic reaction going to require a doctor

59:46

that's going to prescribe prednisone and inhaled

59:48

corticosteroids and my maybe even something called Montelucast

59:50

which is lucotriene It was it for

59:53

mom's cancer. Yeah Now the ivermectin hydroxychloroquine is

59:55

very controversial in terms of I'm getting

59:57

trouble for it even mentioning it But yes,

59:59

it's definitely an ion for which means

1:00:01

that it brings the zinc in the cell

1:00:03

if you take zinc without that You're

1:00:05

probably not going to have much effect. So

1:00:07

you are going to need somebody and

1:00:09

now if you go to the hospital You're

1:00:11

going to get put in an isolation

1:00:13

room neglected fed garbage and then when you

1:00:15

can't breathe They'll put you on a

1:00:17

ventilator and kill you. That's pretty much the

1:00:20

path that's taken in hospitals. So That's

1:00:22

this. So, so now here's the thing. I've

1:00:25

had so many upper respiratory infections. I never

1:00:27

once considered it would kill me. Never. Now, if

1:00:29

I start with a sniffle, am I going

1:00:31

to go? Oh, it's here. It's here. If

1:00:34

you start getting scared and freaking out

1:00:36

when you get that first sniffle or that

1:00:38

sore throat, you're basically suppressing your immune

1:00:40

system. So you've got to find the fear.

1:00:43

It's already being terrorized. So everybody's already at

1:00:46

a low level of distress. Keep

1:00:48

your vitamin C levels high. Get a vitamin

1:00:50

D level checked in your blood. Yeah, fun

1:00:52

every several months. Keep it up, you know,

1:00:54

on the high range of whatever your country

1:00:56

does the country's measure in different units. Keep

1:00:58

it on the high range of there and

1:01:00

checking it every few months. That is probably

1:01:03

the number one. Yeah, I agree with that

1:01:05

one. Yeah. So, you know, that way when

1:01:07

it does hit, because eventually we're probably all

1:01:09

going to get meet up against COVID one

1:01:11

way or the other. You'll

1:01:13

your body at least being prepared like,

1:01:16

you know, Keep the party and

1:01:18

down to a minimum, you know smoking

1:01:20

and drinking are two things that are going

1:01:22

to suppress your immune system really badly

1:01:24

Working out if you're working out really hard.

1:01:26

That is a real stress on your

1:01:28

body I know I know it You're fine

1:01:30

probably but the weekend warriors that want

1:01:32

to go out, you know jogging and overdoing

1:01:35

it Yeah, you know don't do it.

1:01:37

Don't do it that way be thoughtful You

1:01:39

know you you have to tell them

1:01:41

about that how to do that

1:01:43

speed because that's a lot

1:01:46

of oxidative stress on the body

1:01:48

and it will borrow um

1:01:50

alkali from the bones and then

1:01:52

your bones can become you

1:01:54

know less less dense as a

1:01:56

result of that yeah so

1:01:58

yeah expert on that part i'm

1:02:01

trying to think of what

1:02:03

else i would have so vitamin

1:02:05

d, vitamin c magnesium Yeah,

1:02:08

look, everyone should have magnesium in the house. You

1:02:10

should have epsom salts in the house and you

1:02:12

should have, I like bentonite clay around as well

1:02:14

because there's some uses for that. But

1:02:16

magnesium in a good absorbable, like

1:02:18

Magsitrates are very highly absorbable, but

1:02:20

it causes diarrhea. So if you're

1:02:22

constipated, that's a good logical solution

1:02:24

for you. Okay. Magsitrate oxide

1:02:26

is the least bio available, but

1:02:29

it's the most easy one to

1:02:31

get in the store. Yeah, unfortunately.

1:02:33

And what about bisglycinate? Yeah,

1:02:35

so there's magnesium orate. That's good for

1:02:37

people who have heart problems, magnesium glycinate.

1:02:39

That's the one I take because it's

1:02:41

bioavailable and you can easily get it

1:02:43

from iHerb, Amazon. Yeah, yeah. And the

1:02:45

citrate is unfortunate when you get it.

1:02:48

You can mostly get it in a

1:02:50

powder and it just goes into chunks,

1:02:52

you know, and it's very hard to

1:02:54

get down. But bisglycinate.

1:02:57

But it's so different here and

1:02:59

there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

1:03:01

the glycinate is a good one.

1:03:03

The bisglycinate and the threonate. Yep.

1:03:06

Yep. It's okay. I think pretty much

1:03:08

all of them except oxide. Oxide. Thank

1:03:11

you. Magnesium oxide. Yeah. It's not so,

1:03:13

not so bioavailable, which is the most

1:03:15

common. oxide won't

1:03:17

hurt you. Yep. The cheapest is magnesium

1:03:19

chloride. Magnesium chloride liquid. Rather unpleasant

1:03:21

tasting, but you can put it on

1:03:23

the skin and you can drink

1:03:25

it. Oh, wow. And epsom salts for

1:03:28

bathing? Yeah, you're bathing in them

1:03:30

and you know, so what I do

1:03:32

is I like to so look the acid

1:03:34

terrain of the body is really important

1:03:36

thing to look at so You know if

1:03:38

I were to check everyone out there's

1:03:40

pH unless you're in the in the hospital

1:03:42

I see you you're gonna have a

1:03:44

pH of 7 .4 in your blood So

1:03:46

you're always gonna maintain that pH, but it

1:03:48

doesn't mean your tissues are gonna have

1:03:50

that say so if you have a sore

1:03:52

knee and I go in there and

1:03:54

take some fluid out it's gonna be acid

1:03:56

so the lungs and the

1:03:58

kidneys and the bones and your proteins

1:04:00

in your blood are helping that

1:04:02

blood pH to stay there because it's

1:04:04

vital to stay at that, say at

1:04:06

7 .4 range. Now you can have

1:04:08

7 .39. Well, that's a huge

1:04:11

difference because it's a logarithmic measurement. So

1:04:13

7 .39 to 7 .4 is a huge

1:04:15

difference. And you will see it was

1:04:17

7 .39. So having

1:04:19

a more alkaline terrain comes

1:04:21

from having an alkaline

1:04:23

diet. Okay, so I mean about that.

1:04:26

Oh, no, my battery's running low. Give me a

1:04:28

sec. So the

1:04:30

other thing is

1:04:32

what you're drinking. The

1:04:34

average 70 kilogram person needs

1:04:36

to be drinking two liters

1:04:38

of high quality mineralized water

1:04:40

per day. But what

1:04:43

I like to do is I

1:04:45

have a soda stream machine which

1:04:47

by itself is toxic. It's carbonic

1:04:49

acid. Give

1:04:51

the fizzy water and then

1:04:53

you put some magnesium hydroxide

1:04:55

powder into that. There's a

1:04:57

chemical reaction that leads it

1:04:59

to be magnesium bicarbonate, which

1:05:01

is an alkaline, slightly fizzy

1:05:04

beverage. You put it in

1:05:06

the fridge. You add

1:05:08

a little bit of lemon peel

1:05:10

to it or lemon juice

1:05:12

and you're going to alkalize even

1:05:14

more. As a nephrologist, I've

1:05:16

been using lemon juice forever. because

1:05:22

while it's an acid, when it

1:05:24

is metabolized by the body, it

1:05:26

creates bicarbonate. But you can

1:05:28

also just put some baking soda. It's just a

1:05:30

little pinch of baking soda. Yeah, it's going

1:05:32

to say like Elka Seltzer. Is that a good

1:05:34

thing to put in? If it doesn't have

1:05:36

aluminium, I would just use food grade baking soda,

1:05:38

sodium bicarbonate, cheaper. Sodium bicarbonate.

1:05:40

And it's not giving the pharmaceutical industry

1:05:42

any money. Okay, and epsom salts I'm getting

1:05:44

back to the epsom salts because you

1:05:46

can put a little pinch of epsom salt

1:05:48

Which is magnesium sulfate so for those

1:05:50

of us that I require a lot of

1:05:52

sulfur in my diet And so I

1:05:54

just do a pinch of that and sometimes

1:05:57

I'll put a little bit of potassium

1:05:59

chloride in there Or potassium bicarbonate so that

1:06:01

if you're drinking alkaline beverages when you're

1:06:03

not eating Okay, we shouldn't ideally you shouldn't

1:06:05

be drinking at all when you're eating

1:06:07

but you know I do because I need

1:06:09

to kind of lubricate the the softness

1:06:11

But just a little bit of regular water.

1:06:13

You don't want to drink alkaline beverages

1:06:15

while you're eating because you won't be able

1:06:17

to digest. Yeah. So yeah,

1:06:19

because that's the other thing. You do

1:06:22

want like betaine or you want good

1:06:24

stomach acids. Yeah. So you don't want

1:06:26

to be doing that at the same

1:06:28

time. Yeah. So your digestion is

1:06:30

super important. So people on, you know,

1:06:32

antacids, you're basically impairing protein digestion upstream

1:06:34

by... impairing your stomach acid. Now if

1:06:36

you have an ulcer you have to

1:06:38

do that but you really need

1:06:40

to work. But having

1:06:43

by carbonate of soda in between your

1:06:45

meal times is that going to disrupt

1:06:47

your your ability to digest your food

1:06:49

because that's always a question that I've

1:06:51

had in my head. Clean

1:06:54

eating your stomach pH becomes normal. It's

1:06:56

only when you're eating that you secrete

1:06:58

all that acid So so it starts

1:07:00

in the salivary gland start here and

1:07:02

now it's just what it's like a

1:07:04

domino effect of one thing your food

1:07:06

basically gets ripped apart So you start

1:07:08

food the purpose of eating food isn't

1:07:10

for pleasure. It's actually to create more

1:07:12

of yourself So it gets I see

1:07:14

is getting ripped apart so you get

1:07:16

alkaline in the mouth and then you

1:07:18

get acid in the stomach and then

1:07:20

you get alkaline from the pancreas again

1:07:22

and it just keeps going back and

1:07:24

forth and you ideally want to have

1:07:26

an alkaline colon, you want to

1:07:28

have an acidic stomach and you want to have

1:07:30

a neutral pH in your bloodstream and your tissues.

1:07:33

That's a really big part of immunity because

1:07:35

if the pH is the way God designed

1:07:37

it all throughout your body microbes can't really

1:07:39

get a hold on you as easily doesn't

1:07:41

say they can't but it's not going to

1:07:43

be an easy battle for them and it'll

1:07:45

be a much easier battle for you if

1:07:47

you're not starting out with you know and

1:07:50

busy water and carbohydrates are

1:07:52

hugely inflammatory so I'm more

1:07:54

in favor of a paleo

1:07:56

diet like a healthy diet