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Alex I have one question

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for you. Where the hell have

5:20

you been? You know it's it's so

5:22

funny you say that because we

5:24

got like a few emails and

5:26

because we mentioned on the show

5:29

that I was moving everybody just

5:31

made the assumption. Actually technically

5:33

I was moving because just

5:36

to tell you guys where

5:38

we've been it's on me

5:41

but not because of me.

5:43

We had some house damage due

5:45

to an inept roofer and

5:47

some severe rain. So yeah,

5:49

we had some water damage

5:52

in our house. We had to get

5:54

the heck out of here and

5:56

have that fixed for three weeks.

5:58

So as you I mean, the

6:01

whole situation sucked. It

6:03

was super ironic the

6:05

timing of it is like

6:07

as soon as it's been a

6:09

mess. It's awful and the

6:12

timing of it and it

6:14

sucks. I mean, the whole

6:16

situation sucked. It was super

6:19

ironic the timing of it

6:21

is like as soon as

6:23

I moved in you had

6:25

to move out. Exactly. Like

6:27

tag. Exactly team there. But

6:29

we did get a check

6:31

in from Scott Passner. Thank

6:33

you, Scott, for the kind

6:35

words. Dennis, too. Did you see that

6:38

email? I know. I thought for sure, Dennis

6:40

was encountering certain issues.

6:43

So I was happy to hear he was

6:45

not. It was good. It was good

6:47

to hear and see. There were a

6:49

few other emails. related to our last

6:51

show, but it's been so long that

6:54

I don't even know how to pick

6:56

up on those. So we're gonna miss,

6:58

sorry, well we can do Scott's last

7:00

sports minute, happy to do that. But

7:02

we have one from Dustin and Mark,

7:04

so we thank you, but we're probably

7:07

gonna skip those this time just because

7:09

I think context is lost. What we're

7:11

gonna do, we just spoke about this

7:13

and I think it's important to talk

7:15

about this with the listeners. We're going

7:18

to do our issue 326

7:20

today as planned from a

7:23

few three weeks ago. That's

7:25

uncensored. So we're back to

7:27

talk about uncensored 95

7:30

next week. We're actually

7:32

going to highlight all

7:34

the issues we're going to

7:36

miss from really the time

7:38

we had to skip and

7:40

then the time lost. But

7:42

we will in full review.

7:45

And then from there, we'll pick up

7:47

with another issue. I think it was

7:49

3.32, I want to say. So we'll

7:51

get back on track date-wise 30 years

7:53

ago after next week. So next week's

7:55

kind of a highlight week with all

7:58

the issues we've kind of missed. with

8:00

a full review of Mani 11, and

8:02

then the week after, we'll get back

8:04

to it. Before that, do we wanna go

8:06

over the sports minute from, really

8:09

from April 10th, and I'm happy

8:11

to do that if you're not, if

8:13

you don't have it handy? Yeah, I don't

8:15

have it up. Okay. This is from Scott.

8:17

Again, this is a few weeks ago,

8:19

but we'll still get through it. The

8:22

NCAA tournament gets off to

8:24

a shocking start as

8:26

Old Dominion knocks off

8:28

Villanova in triple overtime

8:30

89-81, knocking out the

8:33

three-seated Biggies Champs to

8:35

Wildcats. Big Sky Champion Weber

8:37

State ends Michigan State's season

8:39

79-72. The loss sends good...

8:41

Heath caught, never heard of

8:43

that guy, into retirement as

8:45

the Spartans plan to promote

8:47

assistant coach Tom Iso. Now

8:50

that's someone I have heard

8:52

of for the 95-96 season.

8:54

Less than two years after

8:56

retiring from the NBA, Michael

8:58

Jordan shocks the sports world,

9:00

releasing a message through his

9:02

agent David Falk, announcing, quote, I'm

9:04

back. He will return to the Bulls

9:07

to face the Indiana Pacers. How will

9:09

this change the NBA power structure?

9:11

350 media members, a

9:14

nationwide audience on NBC,

9:16

and a sellout crowd

9:18

at Market Square Arena,

9:20

see Jordan wearing number

9:22

45, play his first

9:24

game since the 93 NBA finals.

9:26

The Pacers beat the Bulls,

9:28

103 to 96 in overtime,

9:30

with MJ playing a team

9:32

high 43 minutes and

9:34

scoring 19. UCLA survives

9:37

in Missouri, 75-74 victory

9:39

behind Tius. Edna's

9:41

a winning shot. Arkansas survives

9:44

Syracuse 9694 and overtime surviving

9:46

to, or yes, going to

9:48

the Sweet 16. Mike Tyson

9:50

is released from prison after

9:52

serving three years in the

9:54

rape of Desiree Washington. The

9:57

second weekend of the NC

9:59

double. A tournament sees UCLA,

10:01

Oklahoma State, North Carolina,

10:03

and Arkansas qualify for

10:06

the final four weekend

10:08

in Seattle. What a Friday

10:10

as federal judge Sonia Sotomayor

10:12

of U.S. District Court in New

10:15

York City issues an injunction

10:17

against MLB owners in a

10:19

move that effectively ends the

10:21

230 day strike. We'll see

10:23

what happens next. As

10:27

we end college basketball, the

10:29

NBA playoffs are on the

10:31

horizon with so many contenders

10:33

to knock off the rockets

10:35

from winning a second title.

10:37

Michael Jordan and the Bulls look

10:39

to return to old form while

10:42

the Knicks, Magic, Pacers, and

10:44

Hornets vie for the playoff

10:46

position in the loaded Eastern

10:48

Conference. I think that does it

10:50

for the sports minute. Thank you,

10:53

Scott as always. Let's pivot

10:55

now to issue 326 dated

10:57

March 25th 1995. The one

11:00

we've been waiting on for

11:02

three four weeks now I

11:04

guess for good or bad

11:07

you are not getting away

11:09

from uncensored 95 everybody. Holkogan

11:12

defeats Rick Flair instead

11:15

of Vader that's the

11:17

headline here. The subhead

11:19

Flair dresses and drag.

11:22

Cotton candy is used as

11:24

a weapon and Hogan introduces

11:27

a new muscle freak. Some

11:29

of the highlights here. W.

11:31

F. News. W. F. Draws

11:33

near salad at MSG. In W.W.

11:36

4 wrestlers and a manager

11:38

are fired after budget cuts

11:40

are ordered. There's a special

11:42

report on the ECW

11:44

arena event. And finally, an

11:46

arena spotlight on Smoky Mountain drawing

11:49

poorly in one of its 2.

11:51

top drawing towns. We're going to

11:53

get into that, but I have

11:55

to ask you since it's been

11:58

just about a week since we

12:00

we've had this event happened,

12:02

but Russellmania just

12:04

passed us by. Two nights, of

12:07

course, is the last few years

12:09

have been the custom, I guess

12:11

you can call it. What were your

12:14

takeaways on Russellmania 41?

12:16

If you could have taken

12:18

the undercard of night

12:20

two and put it with the

12:22

main event of night one, you

12:24

would have had a really, really good

12:27

three and a half hour show.

12:29

I've heard a lot of people

12:31

say that. I watched most of

12:33

Night 2. I didn't watch

12:35

really any of Night 1,

12:37

but I did hear of

12:39

course the feedback from many

12:42

sources, and that seems

12:44

to be the gist. The thing

12:46

about Night 1 is it's not

12:48

that it was a bad show.

12:50

It just, the way that it

12:52

was set up was like, this

12:55

is a really good episode

12:57

of raw. Until you got to

12:59

the main event. Yeah, and you

13:01

can't do that for mania. Like

13:03

you just can't, you can't do

13:05

that. Like it was just, it

13:07

was very odd in that way because

13:09

it, like I said, the beginning

13:12

felt like we're doing like a

13:14

big episode of raw. Obviously

13:16

the main event turned that

13:18

around, but that's what's gonna

13:20

happen when you have stars of

13:23

that caliber plus, you know,

13:25

Paul Haven and. the way they tell

13:27

a story, whether you like the three of

13:29

them or not, it just kind of hits

13:31

what it is. That's fair. I mean, they

13:33

are big stars, like you said, like whether

13:35

you like them or not, there's certainly big

13:37

stars and it's hard to argue at

13:39

that point. But there is stuff on night

13:42

one that's like Tiffany and Charlotte was better

13:44

than I thought it would be, but I

13:46

still can't tell if it was good or

13:48

if my expectations were so low that it

13:50

seemed better than it seemed better than it

13:53

was. It's it's one of those situations

13:55

where it's like I expected this

13:57

burger to be terrible so the fact

13:59

that it it's like mid is

14:01

like totally final point. Yeah,

14:04

it makes sense. Like I

14:06

can't tell if that's what

14:08

it is or if it's

14:10

actually good. Night two ended with

14:13

a whimper, but I hate to

14:15

say this. If you expected

14:18

more out of those two guys

14:20

working with each other without

14:22

a viable, you know, worker

14:24

in there or a viable

14:26

stipulation or. a whole

14:29

bunch of bells and

14:31

whistles. I don't know what

14:33

to tell you. I don't

14:36

know why your expectations were

14:38

higher than what they were.

14:41

I get the disappointment, but

14:43

at the same time, I

14:45

can't say I didn't see

14:47

it coming. Yeah, I'm not

14:49

surprised either say that. I've

14:52

heard it this way. The worst

14:54

of rest may be 41, which

14:56

sounds like to you is the

14:59

main event of night too. Is

15:01

that better or worse than the

15:03

best of uncensored 95? And that

15:05

is a tough one because I

15:08

know both of us have probably,

15:10

you know, three or four weeks

15:13

ago last watched the paper view

15:15

and the second I turned

15:17

it off I've put most of

15:19

it out of my mind. is weird

15:22

because... Okay here's

15:24

how I'm going to

15:26

answer your question.

15:29

The best part of

15:32

Uncensored 95 was the

15:34

tag match and I would

15:36

have rather had that

15:38

on the WrestleMania

15:41

card than the

15:43

new day against

15:46

the Viking Warrior

15:48

Experience Raiders thing.

15:50

But in a weird way,

15:53

I guess I would have

15:55

preferred Sina and

15:58

Cody Rhodes too. the

16:00

thing that happened with Vader,

16:02

kind of. Yeah, ironically though,

16:04

they both sound like really

16:06

messy and just obnoxious endings

16:08

to big main events. I

16:10

strongly dislike the two people

16:12

in this main event more

16:14

than I dislike the people

16:16

on the other one though.

16:18

True. That's true. And when

16:21

the other one ended, the

16:23

uncensored one as Wade's title

16:25

of the... cover story really

16:27

references, it's pretty much ends

16:29

up being a triple threat

16:31

or maybe a two on

16:33

one. Yeah, kind of. Yeah.

16:35

Well, let's get into it.

16:37

And like, I wasn't joking

16:39

when I said, we'd obviously

16:41

we watched this a few

16:43

weeks ago. I don't remember

16:45

much of this. So as

16:47

I go through my review,

16:49

I'm going to remember what

16:51

I actually watched about a

16:53

month ago. That kind of

16:56

sums up what, you know,

16:58

I kind of thought about

17:00

this show. But I will

17:02

say this, and maybe you

17:04

were kind of alluding to

17:06

it when you said this

17:08

is an interesting show. I

17:10

give them credit for trying

17:12

something very unique for the

17:14

time. Like it's kind of

17:16

a bland approach nowadays, but

17:18

in 1995, especially W, like

17:20

I'm not including GECW because

17:22

that was so niche at

17:24

the time. I mean, I

17:26

give him credit to try

17:28

a theme like this. It

17:31

wasn't like hardcore, but they

17:33

had quirky unique matches and

17:35

one is obviously the more

17:37

obvious quirky one than others,

17:39

but do you think it's

17:41

fair to at least give

17:43

them that credit? Yes. I

17:45

think honestly and truly what

17:47

they did with this was

17:49

out of the box, they

17:51

knew, regardless of what you

17:53

think of rest of my

17:55

11, they're still going. against

17:57

that brand name, you know,

17:59

two or three weeks after

18:01

the fact. Yeah. And they

18:03

tried something. I want to

18:06

bring up too, is that

18:08

the first time anybody tried

18:10

this, the all gimmick pay

18:12

review? And I don't possibly,

18:14

yeah. And the funny thing

18:16

about saying that is, I

18:18

guess technically, technically. The first

18:20

all gimmick pay-per-view is Survivor

18:22

Series. Yeah, yeah. Technically, it's

18:24

a gimmick. Technically, I would

18:26

give that the nod, but

18:28

I think, I think it's,

18:30

it's different. It's, it's, it's

18:32

the same, but it's different

18:34

in this one, you know,

18:36

and so I'm not sorry.

18:38

Yeah, I think this is

18:41

the first time that as

18:43

opposed to like the whole

18:45

card being one thing, which

18:47

is what Survivor Series. It

18:49

actually was all kinds of

18:51

different gimmicks, which we've seen

18:53

done over and over again

18:55

throughout the years. Like they

18:57

did the extreme rules thing

18:59

on the W&E side. I

19:01

don't know if this counts

19:03

or not, because this is

19:05

almost closer to the Survivor

19:07

Series example, but they did

19:09

the T&A lockdown thing where

19:11

the whole show was in

19:13

a cage. Yeah. But I

19:16

feel like this is the

19:18

first time and I feel

19:20

like they picked the right

19:22

time to do that. They

19:24

also had a couple of

19:26

good ideas on this show.

19:28

The execution of one of

19:30

them in particular wasn't great,

19:32

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19:34

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19:36

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25:41

and of course, as we

25:43

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25:45

review at the end of

25:47

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25:49

A cover story here and

25:51

censored. 95 went down on

25:53

March 19th in Tupelo, Mississippi.

25:55

Wade reports it was near

25:57

Kapan. He provides us a

25:59

quiz from the pay-per-view, which

26:01

is basically his parody, much

26:03

like the hot news story

26:05

from a few weeks ago,

26:07

if you recall. We'll go

26:09

through a few of these,

26:11

but they're pretty much saying,

26:13

you know, tongue-in-cheek type things.

26:16

Number one, did Rick Flair

26:18

dress up in women's clothing

26:20

and women's makeup and come

26:22

out of the crowd and

26:24

attack somebody? Is it A?

26:26

Two, was there a brawl

26:28

in front of obviously phony

26:30

concession stands where wrestlers use

26:32

pink cotton candy as weapons?

26:34

Did that happen at A,

26:36

uncensored, or was this in

26:38

the fictional hot news? So

26:40

real quick, that did happen.

26:42

But I want to point

26:44

out that the obviously fictional

26:46

thing is not true. The

26:49

first time I saw this

26:51

show, I thought those were

26:53

real. the, uh, the, which

26:55

part we thought was real.

26:57

The concession doesn't understand. Okay,

26:59

I thought so. I thought

27:01

that was we meant. Well,

27:03

it's funny you say that

27:05

because I do remember while

27:07

I was watching this, I

27:09

quickly realized it was fake,

27:11

but I was, I was

27:13

at least thinking through, like,

27:15

is this real or not,

27:17

but it didn't take long

27:19

to, to figure that out.

27:24

But what did you think? So

27:27

we'll pause there. We're going to

27:29

talk about this, obviously, because we're

27:31

going to review the match. What

27:34

did you think of that portion

27:36

of it? Did you find it

27:38

being comedic and stupid? Or did

27:40

you think, OK, let's a little

27:43

edgier and they're trying something? What

27:45

was your gut reaction to that?

27:47

I thought it was really good,

27:49

but unfortunately, they spilled that. Whatever

27:52

that was the red drink or

27:54

the blue drink or or or

27:56

lemonade whatever that was supposed to

27:58

be yeah They spilled that And

28:01

so they couldn't do any spots

28:03

and you even saw, like there's

28:05

one point, I think, I think

28:07

it's Booker T, I think, where

28:10

he goes to pick up the

28:12

blonde nasty boy. Yes. And he's

28:14

gonna slam him. And you can

28:17

see he like puts him back

28:19

down and just hits him. And

28:21

it's like, well, yeah, because he

28:23

just did the cost benefit analysis

28:26

of picking this guy up and

28:28

slipping on this nonsense and breaking

28:30

everything in his back or his

28:32

leg or like whatever. So I

28:35

think that hurt what they were

28:37

going for because I truly believe

28:39

that a lot of the stuff

28:41

that they had planned. to do

28:44

up there and to have an

28:46

actual match went completely out the

28:48

window and turned into like punch

28:51

kick because they were afraid of

28:53

you know career ending injury because

28:55

that's that's how bad that's how

28:57

bad that's how bad that's situation

29:00

was on that concrete which I

29:02

assume I don't know what they

29:04

used this this Tupelo place for

29:06

but it was like akin to

29:09

they started resting on a hockey

29:11

rink. You know what I mean?

29:13

Like that. Yeah. You're spot on

29:15

and the thing that's a shame

29:18

like they couldn't I mean I

29:20

guess they could have but they

29:22

didn't call themselves to go home

29:24

early like they were just like

29:27

out there lingering for another it

29:29

felt like 10 minutes maybe it

29:31

just felt like it lingered that

29:34

part of the match. And yeah,

29:36

I think you're right on. You

29:38

get the idea, by the way,

29:40

with what Wade's getting at here,

29:43

like setting up something ridiculous and

29:45

asking us, was this real, did

29:47

it happen uncensored or was it

29:49

fictional? Yeah. I'll note a few

29:52

more as we go, but yeah,

29:54

what's... reaction to that. I get

29:56

where he's coming from and like

29:58

the main event stuff it doesn't

30:01

need to be there and again

30:03

a couple of the ideas with

30:05

the main event taken out of

30:07

this completely because a guy who's

30:10

not in the match losing the

30:12

match doesn't make any sense and

30:14

you can't justify that to me

30:17

or any possible. Totally agree. And

30:19

of all people too. I mean

30:21

the premise is faulty and stupid

30:23

but then you're just continuing to

30:26

you know, degrade Rick Flair. The

30:28

irony is he's the booker apparently,

30:30

you know, I mean, Hogan really

30:32

runs the shots at least of

30:35

his own, his own feuds, but

30:37

just all parts of this is

30:39

just infuriating. Well, here's where the

30:41

logical is, and like, bear with

30:44

me here, but why wouldn't Vader

30:46

just lock Hogan in a closet

30:48

and then strap himself to Jimmy

30:51

and pick up Jimmy Hart and

30:53

win the title. I don't know,

30:55

maybe he's not smart enough. I

30:57

mean, I don't know. But like,

31:00

the the fact that the the

31:02

announcers with the exception of Bob

31:04

Heeda, but like the announcers and

31:06

everybody that works in this company

31:09

acts like it's totally okay. And

31:11

it's like, well, I guess he

31:13

won. And right. When if the

31:15

reverse of this situation happened, Everybody

31:18

would be like this is a

31:20

travesty he's not the shit like

31:22

yeah it was worse of course

31:24

in wrestling with no one second

31:27

guess is absolutely I always hate

31:29

when they do that and I

31:31

just I thought that was a

31:34

mistake because if you're like thinking

31:36

it through it's like well wait

31:38

a minute like can't he just

31:40

go grab Jimmy heart and win

31:43

the title like why can't he

31:45

if I recall what Wade reports

31:47

about this show as we go

31:49

on here There's a lot of

31:52

talk the week or weeks building

31:54

up to this show and figuring

31:56

out what they're going to do.

31:58

So that, I mean, the way

32:01

it all comes off is not

32:03

surprising knowing that, knowing that they

32:05

had to figure out what the

32:08

hell to do here because Vader

32:10

didn't want to do the job

32:12

and Hogan was not going to

32:14

do the job. So, you know,

32:17

there's a third option, maybe their

32:19

fifth option. I don't know that

32:21

they had to come up with

32:23

and this is the mess we

32:26

got. It's completely illogical outcome. So

32:28

a few, go ahead. But with

32:30

that said, I do think a

32:32

lot of the ideas on this

32:35

show were good. Again, execution was

32:37

not perfect, but the thought process

32:39

behind it was not like ridiculous.

32:41

I think I agree with you

32:44

on paper. It's not bad. Some

32:46

other just just to. wrap up

32:48

the fun here. Some other things

32:51

Wade talks about, you know, did

32:53

two wrestlers actually use a bail

32:55

of hay as a weapon? Did

32:57

W.C.W. bring a rookie muscle freak

33:00

doing a fake ultimate warrior gimmick?

33:02

Did four wrestlers and a female

33:04

manager slip on a floor full

33:06

of mustard and fruit punch? Is

33:09

what you talked about earlier. And

33:11

on and on and on. So

33:13

you get the idea from that.

33:15

Wade reports here in the cover

33:18

story that the black top bully.

33:20

Dustin Rhodes and Mike Graham were

33:22

actually all fired for disobeying orders

33:25

on the King of the Road

33:27

match. We'll talk about that. Let's

33:29

fight for the best. Probably for

33:31

the best, but I have a

33:34

lot of issues with this, just

33:36

from the WWU side. We'll talk

33:38

about it, but the production for

33:40

that match alone costs $10,000. And

33:43

I believe it. I mean, they

33:45

had to shut down roads in

33:47

a town for like miles and

33:49

miles and miles and hire police

33:52

to help them shut down those

33:54

roads. Curious

33:56

what you think of this, would

33:58

you agree with this? It sounds

34:01

like some of what Wade says

34:03

here, you might agree with. He

34:05

basically puts it this way. He

34:08

calls this show entertaining in a

34:10

perverse way, but it's not good

34:13

for the industry. If it had

34:15

been done better, it would be

34:17

seen as revolutionary though. That's kind

34:20

of the problem I have with

34:22

like the jokes about this show,

34:24

because... There's another company

34:27

that does very similar stuff

34:29

with a very smaller budget

34:31

in like a year and

34:33

we all act like it's

34:35

revolutionary and like pushed the

34:37

business forward a decade. So

34:39

I don't understand how we

34:41

look at this where it's

34:43

not perfect, but for two

34:45

companies that have been Pretty

34:47

mediocre for the last year

34:49

and a half, and pretty

34:51

set in their ways. I

34:53

give either company credit for

34:55

trying anything. And we're going

34:57

to talk about that as

34:59

this year goes on, because

35:01

just because it doesn't land,

35:03

doesn't necessarily mean it was

35:05

like the worst idea. I

35:07

mean, obviously we can point

35:09

to. Like, like, the WDF

35:11

side, they're going to push

35:13

somebody huge over the summer.

35:15

They should have pushed somebody

35:17

huge the way they did.

35:19

They just picked the wrong

35:21

person. It doesn't mean the

35:23

idea to do the thing

35:25

they did was bad. It

35:27

just means the, like, the

35:29

process is good, just the

35:31

end result isn't. Yeah. And

35:33

that's the same situation with

35:35

this. Like, if the, if

35:37

the, the king of the

35:39

road thing, Was done now

35:41

with the cinematic stuff and

35:43

it gets stopped and they

35:45

shoot it like a movie

35:47

people would rave over that

35:49

I agree, I thought it

35:51

was really well done for

35:53

what it was and for

35:55

when it happened. That's that's

35:57

palsy. It is. It's in

35:59

10K too, so it's not

36:01

cheap, but it really did.

36:03

You know, people, people make

36:05

fun of it, people, you

36:07

know, especially the outcome. I

36:09

have, I have issues with

36:11

this by the way, and

36:13

I'll tell you about it.

36:16

But I agree, I thought

36:18

it was really well done

36:20

for what it was and

36:22

for when it happened. You

36:24

know, in 1995. Here's what

36:26

I was talking about before.

36:28

Wade says WCP management was

36:30

under pressure all week, trying

36:32

to figure out both the

36:34

King of the Road match,

36:36

excuse me, as well as

36:38

the main event finish. He

36:40

says Hogan refused to lose

36:42

under any circumstances. Vader also

36:44

put up a stink about

36:46

losing since he knew Hogan

36:48

would never lose to him

36:50

if he didn't already at

36:52

this point, which he hasn't.

36:55

The plan was initially slated

36:57

to have Vader lose via

36:59

DQ, but they decided against

37:01

it. And then finally, all

37:03

of the extra buildup, which

37:05

included, we'll talk about it,

37:07

Jimmy Hart missing, renegade appearing,

37:10

Vader potentially ending Kolkomani, all

37:12

that stuff, likely increased late

37:14

buys, according to Wade. So

37:16

a few takeaways for uncensored

37:18

95. Again, just setting the

37:20

table for what we'll talk

37:23

about at the end of

37:25

the show. Any thoughts or

37:27

reactions or any more to

37:29

kind of layering on this

37:31

before we move on? Just

37:33

one. Just one huge question.

37:35

Yeah. How did they not

37:38

get sued for the renegade

37:40

thing? Don't know. Um, my,

37:42

I don't know the answer

37:44

to this. I'm just going

37:46

to throw it out there.

37:48

Like, they must have been

37:51

scared off to tone it

37:53

down. much like the boss

37:55

at some point. But the

37:57

other thing is, does... I

38:00

wonder how much the WTF really cared

38:02

to go after them for this because

38:05

Warrior wasn't really in their good grace

38:07

anyway, but then I second guess my

38:09

own comment because if it's their intellectual

38:12

property, they probably would have gone after

38:14

the WSBU. So I don't know the

38:16

answer and I don't know what comes

38:19

to fruition, but it is surprising because

38:21

they'd even use certain verbiage like. I

38:24

think using the term warrior or

38:27

like being pretty obvious with what

38:29

they're trying to portray here. Not

38:32

only visually, but like rise. Right,

38:34

exactly. That's what it was. That's

38:36

what it was. So my short

38:39

answer is I have no idea.

38:41

My long-winded answer is, you know,

38:44

more than that, but it's really

38:46

amazing, especially coming off of the

38:48

big boss man thing. You know?

38:51

That just came, that just happened

38:53

a few months ago. Yeah, I

38:55

don't, I don't know the answer

38:58

either, but it's just like, the

39:00

music and it's so obvious. The

39:03

other part too is like, where

39:05

did Hogan dig up this guy?

39:07

Like, was, was he so sad

39:10

that Brutus Beef Cake didn't want

39:12

to be his friend anymore that

39:14

he wants to Brutus Beef Cake

39:17

store and picked a shorter? Like,

39:19

that's what, doesn't he look like

39:22

that though? Doesn't he look like

39:24

a really short Brutus beef cake?

39:26

He does, he does. And the

39:29

sad part is, he's not even

39:31

as like, like, Brutus beef egg

39:33

had a better build in the

39:36

80s than this guy does here

39:38

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39:41

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39:43

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39:45

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46:32

March 19th in Madison Square Garden.

46:35

Wade says it was one of

46:37

the bigger drawing house shows from

46:39

WTF in the last few years.

46:42

They had 18,000 attendants for a

46:44

gate of 250. I think a

46:47

year ago, maybe, Alex, if that,

46:49

maybe, you know, three to six

46:51

months ago, we were talking about

46:54

the dismal turnout for Madison Square

46:56

Garden. Sadly, I think it was

46:59

in the Bret Hart era. I

47:01

won't sugarcoat that, but they were,

47:03

they were really, I don't know,

47:06

turning out under 10K easily. Not

47:08

terribly long ago. So this is

47:11

a good positive turnout. I guess

47:13

one good thing that Diesel's been

47:15

able to draw here. Oh no,

47:18

no, no, no, no. They're not

47:20

here to see Diesel. They're here

47:23

to see King Wang Bundy. Oh,

47:25

yes. My apologies. My apologies to

47:27

Mr. Bundy. Yeah. Listen. This is

47:30

MSG. They're here for King Kong

47:32

Bundy and Bob Backland. Obviously. Yeah,

47:35

I mean, Backland, you know, clearly

47:37

like a stalwart there years ago

47:39

and Bundy lives in a C.

47:42

So not too far, you know,

47:44

removed from New York. So I

47:47

get it. I get it. Makes

47:49

sense. Wade attributes to the success

47:51

to the recent Rossomania hype, which

47:54

includes the local sports hero Lawrence

47:56

Taylor. That's obvious like that could

47:59

be as well. I don't know.

48:01

I don't know. But it makes

48:03

sense, right? I'm through something. to

48:06

that. It's not like Lon Taylor

48:08

was here though, you know. Yeah,

48:10

you beat me to it. Like

48:13

Lawrence Taylor is not at MSG.

48:15

Yeah, yeah. Like you fooled 18,000

48:18

people if they all thought that.

48:20

It would be interesting though, like

48:22

this would, yeah, there's no way

48:25

to figure this out, but if

48:27

you just take this as a

48:30

microcosm show, what if this was

48:32

like still the territory version of

48:34

WTF? And some of the people

48:37

on the card really being be

48:39

like if there's the territory system

48:42

still exists here pretend in 95

48:44

and diesel is your champion would

48:46

he be a successful W. F.

48:49

Territorial champion. No. You know what

48:51

he would have been successful at

48:54

though. Losing to Bruno San Martino

48:56

over and over again. Yeah true.

48:58

They would have three matches third

49:01

match being a cage. And yeah,

49:03

he'd lose. But as a champion,

49:06

no. They would not have accepted

49:08

that. Absolutely not. Zero fans. Let's

49:10

run down the card a little

49:13

bit, just kind of some of

49:15

the highlights. Here's an interesting one.

49:18

Eric Watts and Chat Fortune, they

49:20

view and defeat the heavenly bodies.

49:22

This was a two and a

49:25

half star match according to the

49:27

correspondent here. Henry Godwin over Barry

49:30

Horowitz. Smoken Guns over to Tonka

49:32

and Kama. That was a two-star

49:34

match. Get this, and this is

49:37

clearly because Bob Backlin is going

49:39

into Russia mainly against Brett Hart,

49:42

but he defeats Adam Baum in

49:44

an I-quit match with the cross-faced

49:46

chicken wing. That was a one-star

49:49

match. That was, that's shocking. Bam,

49:51

take a look, came out to

49:54

be interviewed for sports extra on

49:56

Fox5. Talking about Rosamini of course

49:58

against LT and last but not

50:01

least diesel and razor to feed

50:03

Jeff Jared and Sean Michaels in

50:06

what was rated a four star

50:08

match by correspondent Mike Amansky. So

50:10

not a terrible, I mean, the

50:13

card is pretty shoddy, if he

50:15

asked me, and of course you

50:18

are, but the main event at

50:20

least has star power there, especially

50:22

historic star power. Like if you

50:25

look back and see, you know,

50:27

people are going to rag and

50:30

Jeff Jared, fine, but that's not

50:32

a bad forsome. And at the

50:34

time, that's like the best they

50:37

have. So I started 11 today.

50:39

And I'm gonna tell you, if

50:42

you really think about it, this

50:44

whole new gen thing doesn't last

50:46

as long as people make it

50:49

seem like it did. But WrestleMania

50:51

11 is everything you remember about

50:54

new gen. And you

50:56

really notice it with the

50:58

bulldog at the beginning and

51:00

then even more so with

51:03

one two three kid and

51:05

Jared and razor and roadie

51:07

and Jim Ross I'm sorry

51:09

and Jerry the King Lawler

51:12

and Vincent Man on commentary

51:14

while Jim Ross is being

51:16

relegated to do something lesser

51:18

than that. Like it's so

51:21

new Jen. And the truth

51:23

though is that the top

51:25

guys they had that like

51:27

core like the the four

51:30

you just mentioned and then

51:32

you know you add in

51:34

Brett knowing and then maybe

51:36

even Bulldog like their core

51:39

like six or seven guys

51:41

were actually pretty good. It

51:43

just got really old watching

51:45

them work with each other

51:48

because yeah worked here. Right.

51:50

And there were you know.

51:52

the approach was subdued or

51:54

like what's the word like

51:57

it was just kind of

51:59

a water down product from

52:01

a storyline perspective. So is

52:03

there a spice to it?

52:06

Yeah, no spice to it.

52:08

Agreed. Some notes from the

52:10

WBAF. The 123 kid was

52:12

sent home after the MSG

52:15

show and wasn't at the

52:17

next show in Boston, which

52:19

was the night after. He

52:21

may also miss the Japanese

52:24

tour next week where he

52:26

set to face Neguro Casas.

52:29

A Savage look-like was in

52:31

the MSG crowd assigning autographs.

52:33

It's a fun little tidbit.

52:35

There's a Russellmania preview show

52:37

set to air on March

52:39

26th, and there's a card

52:41

set as well. Bob Holly

52:43

and Alundra Blaze, so this

52:45

is a mixed tag versus

52:47

Bull Nakano and Akushi. I'm

52:49

wondering why this match alone

52:51

isn't on Russell-maniaomania. Like that's

52:53

a fun, unique match, better

52:55

than the Doink and Dink

52:57

versus Bameluna. I'm sure from

52:59

last year's WrestleMania. So I

53:01

don't know, there's like some

53:03

good talent here that completely

53:05

gets lift off. At least

53:07

two of the four, I

53:09

think Blaze and Nakano are

53:11

there. I was gonna say,

53:13

you're doing a lot of

53:15

standing effort, Bob Holly right

53:17

now. Fair. I guess I

53:19

really just want Hakushi on

53:21

the card, that's really my

53:23

point here. Jeff Jared versus

53:25

Bob Backlin, Hill versus Hill,

53:27

it's an interesting one. I

53:29

vaguely remember seeing this too

53:31

as a kid, like that

53:33

match stands out to me

53:35

because it was so random.

53:37

Bam, Bigelow versus Sioni, which

53:39

of course is the former

53:41

barbarian, and 123 Kid versus

53:43

Owenhart. Direct TV is offering

53:45

Ralsomania for 4995, which includes

53:47

two of the previous Ralsomanias

53:49

of your choice, which is

53:51

kind of fun. Okay, okay,

53:53

I gotta stop you. Yeah,

53:55

please. Okay, um, two of

53:58

the previous misrechoice, so three.

54:01

Oh probably I like three

54:03

yeah three it still is just

54:05

a fun visual shit is

54:07

fun I'm always keen on

54:09

six because they remind me of

54:12

three it's not a great

54:14

show but I don't know

54:16

there's just something that clicks

54:18

for me with six I

54:20

also six you would have

54:22

yeah I'm guessing ten you're

54:24

gonna pick ten you're gonna

54:26

pick? You're gonna pick ten

54:29

you're gonna pick? Yeah Yeah, really?

54:31

Yeah, well, how so? I don't

54:33

know. I thought you'd go for,

54:35

like, six and eight. Yeah,

54:37

eight's gonna be up there, too.

54:40

But yeah, if I'm getting

54:42

free, I'm gonna tape them

54:44

and I'm gonna try to

54:46

get three. Like, as a

54:48

10-year-old in 95, I probably

54:50

would not go for three. It

54:52

probably would have

54:54

been six and eight. But right

54:57

now would be, I would be

54:59

picking those two. the last

55:01

choices would have been, like

55:03

if they had told you,

55:05

you get these two for

55:07

free and you just don't

55:09

watch them, which two is that?

55:12

Definitely two, that's one

55:14

of them. Probably nine.

55:16

I'd have to think

55:18

about it a little

55:20

bit though, like as a

55:22

kid I would pick, like

55:24

nine would not be on

55:26

that choice, you know, and

55:28

that choice. Because it's quirky,

55:31

silly, kind of fun.

55:33

Definitely two, maybe one,

55:35

maybe four, even though I

55:37

like that era, I think four

55:40

is extremely boring

55:42

in retrospect. Yeah,

55:44

four would have been my

55:47

answer. Two and four would

55:49

have been mine. All right, so

55:51

I have a question for

55:54

you. 4995 is the price

55:56

on direct TV. What

55:58

do you think they charge today

56:00

if they were charging like

56:02

if you had to pay for

56:05

media and I guess you do

56:07

have to pay some people do

56:09

pay it on paper view so

56:11

you probably can get an answer

56:14

a legitimate answer to say oh

56:16

well they actually charge XYZ I

56:18

don't know that price but if

56:20

they had if the only way

56:22

to see it was to pay for

56:25

it these days what do you

56:27

think that would be? And

56:29

what year would

56:31

you ballpark that out

56:33

or maybe you know?

56:35

It was rock and scene

56:38

of the first time.

56:40

Okay, so that's like

56:42

20, was that eight? Yeah,

56:44

I think so. 12, 13

56:47

years ago. Okay, the

56:49

first one on the

56:51

network is 30. Right.

56:54

And so yeah, what a bit, yeah,

56:56

so it has to be 28 because

56:58

it was two years before that.

57:00

So yeah, 13 years ago. It was

57:02

60 bucks. So now, I don't know,

57:04

what does a UFC cost? I

57:06

don't even know. That's a good

57:09

question. I think part of that

57:11

is part of the ESBN plus

57:13

sometimes. I really can't answer this.

57:16

Well, you have you have ESPN

57:18

Plus, but you still have to pay

57:20

a paper. You do don't use that.

57:23

Isn't that wild? It's it's similar

57:25

to the AEW model with Bleacher

57:27

or whatever the I think if

57:29

I had to guess Now you could probably

57:32

get like standard death for

57:34

like 69 99 and then like high

57:36

death if they even do this anymore

57:38

because I remember that was an

57:41

option when I bought the last

57:43

one I did but I would say

57:45

the stream or high-deaf or whatever

57:47

probably be 79 95 probably 80

57:49

bucks. See I'm gonna go even

57:51

higher like I feel like your

57:53

60 gets doubled and they're

57:56

charging people especially for two

57:58

nights but either way like

58:00

I think they're charging people out

58:02

that you know what because oh

58:04

I didn't think of the two

58:06

nights. They're really on their high

58:08

horse the last few years rightfully

58:10

so they're super popular people want

58:12

them but they're like gonna get

58:14

every penny they can I think they're

58:17

gonna be like 120 like 100 to

58:19

120 I really would believe I didn't

58:21

take into account the two night thing

58:23

yeah that's an element I guess you're

58:25

right because I guess the real answer would

58:27

be 59 95 or 69 95 per night

58:30

for a show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

58:32

Maybe we'll throw in like, I

58:34

don't know, an XT or a

58:36

ball of fame or something, something

58:39

like that. You're funny. You doesn't

58:41

throw anything in. I know.

58:43

I thought I'd be nice for

58:45

a second, but it's true. You

58:48

don't throw anything in. The Hall

58:50

of Fame is also 2995. Did

58:52

you watch that this year? It's

58:54

funny you ask me that

58:57

I actually did for the

58:59

first time in a while. I

59:01

did not get all the way

59:03

through I I have a Like a

59:05

tablet in my kitchen So I

59:07

can watch stuff now while

59:10

I'm prepping and doing so

59:12

like that and I had

59:14

a bunch of stuff to do

59:16

that day so I threw that on

59:18

in the background so I

59:20

caught everything except for the

59:23

the Triple-H thing at the

59:25

end. Okay, I have not

59:27

finished it yet, but I

59:29

probably will eventually.

59:32

I've only seen a few clips

59:34

here and there. I was

59:36

just curious because it was

59:38

on so damn late. I'm

59:40

imagining you're watching a

59:43

different day. Oh, absolutely.

59:45

I think I actually watched it

59:47

in the afternoon Saturday

59:49

last week. Like something

59:51

like. Yeah, I know they were on the West

59:53

Coast, you know, where they were recording

59:55

it, but even then I think it

59:57

started at 10 o'clock that time. So

1:00:00

why? What are they doing? They

1:00:02

can't find a better outlet for

1:00:04

this or timeline? Like I just

1:00:07

don't understand that part. I'll tell

1:00:09

you something. And we're going to

1:00:11

talk a lot more about this

1:00:13

next week, but like one of

1:00:15

the people that I realized got a

1:00:18

raw deal from that company.

1:00:20

And I never really thought about

1:00:22

it until we started doing the

1:00:24

show. And I've become a bigger

1:00:26

fan of his since we've done

1:00:29

the show. And he was inducted to

1:00:31

the Hall of Fame as Lexilegger.

1:00:33

Like I feel bad for hating him

1:00:35

for as long as I did. Yeah,

1:00:37

I know what you mean. The only

1:00:40

thing that gives me- I'm not talking

1:00:42

to person, I don't want to

1:00:44

get into all that. Okay, I

1:00:46

was going to say that gives

1:00:48

me a little pause from like

1:00:51

what happened with Elizabeth of course.

1:00:53

I know he's very remorseful and

1:00:55

whatever. But yeah, I think from

1:00:57

a wrestling point. Just

1:00:59

because you didn't like

1:01:02

wrestling growing up like

1:01:04

who cares? I don't I

1:01:07

don't even mean that I just

1:01:09

mean like if you look

1:01:11

at like his time in

1:01:13

WDF like why did

1:01:16

Brian Adams and like

1:01:18

yeah and Bob Backland

1:01:20

and Mabel and like

1:01:22

even if you look later

1:01:24

down the road like

1:01:26

Bradshaw Like, why did all

1:01:29

these guys get repackaged 14

1:01:31

times and tried over and

1:01:33

over again? This dude didn't

1:01:35

even get a second chance.

1:01:37

Yeah, the closest he got

1:01:39

was just getting teamed with

1:01:42

Bulldog, but then that didn't

1:01:44

go anywhere. No. And that

1:01:46

was best. Yes. Yeah, right. And

1:01:48

I've told you this many times

1:01:50

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1:01:52

is so much better. Oh, it was.

1:01:54

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about him he was on his

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piano close which I didn't even

1:08:08

have that show anymore that feels

1:08:10

like it's like still a thing

1:08:13

that I'm probably making it up

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oh I don't know I don't

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know I don't watch this one

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so probably not he talked about

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mania which is a nice place

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to do so He's also commented

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about his time at T&T if

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you remember he was actually on

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one of their shows I think

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of like the prior post show

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for T&T and football He was

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fired up according to Taylor due

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to his affiliation with WTF, but

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other reports say he was going

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to be fired soon anyway, and

1:08:47

it was just a coincidence Okay,

1:08:49

whatever on March 28th LT will

1:08:52

be at the public workout in

1:08:54

Times Square Ultimate Warrior

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told a Phoenix station, TV

1:08:58

station, he would pay back

1:09:00

his $128,000 in student loans

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with interest. We did talk

1:09:04

about this on a prior

1:09:07

show where some reporter came

1:09:09

out and chastised him for

1:09:11

not paying those loans. So

1:09:13

apparently he's going to cough

1:09:15

up. We'll see if that

1:09:17

actually happens. Speaking of Bryan

1:09:19

Adams and Crush, he was

1:09:21

arrested at his home in

1:09:23

Hawaii due to having illegal

1:09:25

steroids. They also found marijuana

1:09:27

and unregistered firearms. He was

1:09:29

jailed and released on over

1:09:32

$10,000 bail. So this is

1:09:34

funny. It doesn't say it

1:09:36

here in the torch, but

1:09:38

I do remember on WDF

1:09:40

Mania of all shows, I

1:09:42

think it was Mania, like

1:09:44

with Todd Patengill, he actually

1:09:46

made like a comment or

1:09:48

maybe it was a lot.

1:09:50

I mean, why it doesn't

1:09:52

exist yet. At some point,

1:09:55

they do actually reference this

1:09:57

on one of their weekend

1:09:59

shows. Which I always found

1:10:01

weird because those shows are

1:10:03

worth for like 10 year

1:10:05

olds. talk about it and

1:10:07

they never talk about any

1:10:09

of that stuff. So probably

1:10:11

not going to see him

1:10:13

for a while. Well, I

1:10:15

mean, when we get him

1:10:17

back though, yeah, you can't

1:10:20

get rid of him. Anything

1:10:22

else from your end on

1:10:24

Doug Vaff here? No. I

1:10:26

mean, this is one of

1:10:28

the... First time they use

1:10:30

a real-life situation to turn

1:10:32

into a wrestling character, but

1:10:34

you know, yeah true because

1:10:36

the difference between Crush and

1:10:38

Nails is that crush actually

1:10:40

wasn't in it Yeah, yes,

1:10:42

yes It is weird like

1:10:45

I'm not I'm not looking

1:10:47

for more crush on my

1:10:49

WAF TV, but it is

1:10:51

weird how strong they pushed

1:10:53

him in 94 and then

1:10:55

that fizzled out Like pretty

1:10:57

quickly after me and he

1:10:59

had 10. And then not

1:11:01

only did a fizzle out,

1:11:03

but by the end of

1:11:05

the year, he wasn't even

1:11:07

on their TV. Yeah, they

1:11:10

didn't. Randomly shows up in

1:11:12

the rumble. And then that's

1:11:14

it. So I mean, not

1:11:16

like I said, like I'm

1:11:18

not begging for him to

1:11:20

be used. I'm just saying

1:11:22

it's just weird how quickly

1:11:24

things changed. But that's events

1:11:26

for you. that are related

1:11:28

to the King of the

1:11:30

Road match, but also I

1:11:33

just think a management decision

1:11:35

as well. Apparently Bishoff was

1:11:37

recently ordered to cut $500,000

1:11:39

from the budget, and as

1:11:41

noted earlier, the Black Top

1:11:43

Bullie, Dustin Rhodes, and Graham

1:11:45

are fired due to their

1:11:47

match, the King of the

1:11:49

Road match. Paul Roma and

1:11:51

Harley race have also been

1:11:53

let go. The breakdown

1:11:56

of the savings is as follows

1:11:58

Dustin Rhodes was making. 175K, Paul

1:12:00

Roma 104K, race. Apparently so, yeah.

1:12:03

I guess you get that type

1:12:05

of money when you're a horseman,

1:12:07

even though, you know, it happened

1:12:10

for like, what, two weeks? I'm

1:12:12

kidding, that was more, but race

1:12:14

and Graham each had $100,000 on

1:12:17

the contract and the blacktop bully

1:12:19

who's only been here for like

1:12:21

two and a half months. And

1:12:24

most of that time he was

1:12:26

just sitting in the front row,

1:12:28

not shows. He was making $75,000.

1:12:30

Dusty, apparently, Dusty Roads, of course,

1:12:33

the father of Dustin, quit W.

1:12:35

on principle, but it looks like

1:12:37

he's already back to work the

1:12:40

following Monday. Now, Dustin, according to

1:12:42

wait here, was slated to join

1:12:44

a new four horseman stable. Like,

1:12:47

this is exciting and sad it

1:12:49

didn't happen. but it would have

1:12:51

been Arn, Flair, Justin, and Austin,

1:12:54

Steve Austin. Now you probably know

1:12:56

this news and I'm assuming you

1:12:58

do because you're an Austin fan.

1:13:01

I don't remember this being talked

1:13:03

about or like just didn't know

1:13:05

this was a thing to do

1:13:08

you remember this? No. Okay, okay.

1:13:10

Like offhand the... the whole them

1:13:12

being a new horseman no I

1:13:15

didn't know Dustin was I'll put

1:13:17

it this way I didn't know

1:13:19

Dustin was slated to do anything

1:13:22

in this company because he's wrestling

1:13:24

the repo man in the back

1:13:26

of a truck with hay barrels

1:13:28

don't forget those those vicious hay

1:13:31

barrels you know you bring up

1:13:33

the hay barrel thing and everybody's

1:13:35

making fun of that I want

1:13:38

to point out Nobody made fun

1:13:40

of that when cactus was hitting

1:13:42

Abdul the butcher with hey better.

1:13:45

That's true. Hey there there's some

1:13:47

pointy hay. Don't don't like undercut

1:13:49

that. It's not pillows, you know.

1:13:52

And you could get hit with

1:13:54

that needle that's buried in there

1:13:56

too, you never know. That's good.

1:13:59

That's how you find the needle

1:14:01

in the hay. You just get

1:14:03

hit with it. I just, like,

1:14:06

don't get me wrong. I'm one

1:14:08

of the first people that wants

1:14:10

to make fun of WCAW for

1:14:13

stuff, but I don't appreciate when

1:14:15

we pick and choose certain things

1:14:17

when you can point to other

1:14:20

examples and go, well, they did

1:14:22

that and you didn't make fun

1:14:24

of it. And like, yeah, that's

1:14:26

fair. That's fair. Like, we're gonna

1:14:29

talk about the cotton candy thing

1:14:31

later. Don't you remember a few

1:14:33

years from now when Owen Hart

1:14:36

gets hit with like a bag

1:14:38

of popcorn and everybody's like, oh,

1:14:40

he's a genius. Yes, yes. Like,

1:14:43

it's just stupid. How we're taking

1:14:45

shoes. That is a good point.

1:14:47

Kurt Henning was also a potential

1:14:50

member of this new four horseman

1:14:52

stable. but a salary would nearly

1:14:54

equal the $500,000 that was just

1:14:57

cut. So that doesn't sound like

1:14:59

an option. So I have references

1:15:01

a few times already, but it

1:15:04

hasn't been said yet. It will

1:15:06

be said in our review, but

1:15:08

I just have to speak to

1:15:11

this. Dustin Rhodes and Blacktop Bullie

1:15:13

get fired as part of the

1:15:15

issue with the match, too. My

1:15:18

issue with that is... the freaking

1:15:20

match was recorded earlier in the

1:15:22

night or like the day before.

1:15:24

And part of the issue with

1:15:27

their circumstance in the match or

1:15:29

how it went down was a

1:15:31

blade job. I forget who actually

1:15:34

blade is a Dustin. I don't

1:15:36

believe it's black dot bully, so

1:15:38

it must be Dustin. So they

1:15:41

were told no blood. They blade

1:15:43

anyway, he blades anyway. This was

1:15:45

pre-recorded. They could have either edited

1:15:48

that out somehow, blurred it out.

1:15:50

I mean, that's probably the way

1:15:52

you do it. Or you just...

1:15:55

are so fed up with them

1:15:57

bleeding, you just don't air it.

1:15:59

So like how and why they're

1:16:02

allowed to fire someone for not

1:16:04

doing something, but it was not

1:16:06

a live match. It could have

1:16:09

been cut, it could have been

1:16:11

edited, I think pretty easily. I

1:16:13

think this is just a reason

1:16:16

to add them to the budget

1:16:18

cuts. I mean, I just think

1:16:20

it's like, here's our way out,

1:16:22

like we need to cut if

1:16:25

this is really the case. Okay,

1:16:27

we have a reason that we're

1:16:29

not happy with these two. Mike

1:16:32

Graham's part of that reason because

1:16:34

he was the producer of the

1:16:36

match and there they all go.

1:16:39

Yeah, you're probably right about that.

1:16:41

It just seems really silly and

1:16:43

I'm just W being dosed to

1:16:46

that be it, but. Some news

1:16:48

notes, Gene Oakland has successful kidney

1:16:50

surgery on March 16th in Minnesota.

1:16:53

Jim Duggan was upset. He had

1:16:55

to do a job for Ming.

1:16:57

Apparently, Duggan resents Flair for not

1:17:00

calling him when he was out

1:17:02

of a job. He currently gets

1:17:04

paid about a thousand dollars a

1:17:07

match. Some news on the renegade,

1:17:09

his real name is Rick Williams.

1:17:11

He was trained by Killer Kowalski.

1:17:14

And they were initially going to

1:17:16

call him the renegade warrior, which

1:17:18

actually liked that name, but obviously

1:17:20

that would have been even more

1:17:23

difficult to get by using the

1:17:25

warrior in his name. Well,

1:17:28

not only that, but there's

1:17:30

one other small problem is,

1:17:32

you see, he drew that big

1:17:34

R on his face, and

1:17:36

they would have had to

1:17:38

fit a W in next to

1:17:40

it, and that was next to

1:17:43

impossible. Yeah, that's a good

1:17:45

point. What did you think

1:17:47

of, I didn't know this,

1:17:49

the little tidbit here that he

1:17:51

was also trained by Keller

1:17:53

Kowalski, which of course. Maybe

1:17:55

the most infamous person trained by

1:17:58

Kowalski is Paulavak. Well

1:18:00

you win some you lose some

1:18:02

If that cliche would not be

1:18:05

used any better than just now

1:18:07

Like why is he so short?

1:18:10

Like that's the first that's the

1:18:12

first thing you have a problem

1:18:14

with But okay everybody makes fun

1:18:17

of Paul Roma for being short,

1:18:19

right? Well, yeah for the time

1:18:21

like Paul Rome is not short

1:18:24

now like if he was wrestling

1:18:26

now like if he was wrestling

1:18:29

now But this guy

1:18:31

looks way shorter than him and

1:18:33

he's not in as good a

1:18:35

shape and that was the other

1:18:38

thing He's not he's not in

1:18:40

good a shape like Paul room

1:18:42

is freaking ripped Yes, like why

1:18:44

didn't they just draw an R

1:18:46

on Paul Roma's face? R for

1:18:49

Roma. Yeah, renegade Roma. There you

1:18:51

go. I like it. Harvey Schiller

1:18:53

is now overseeing W And apparently

1:18:55

he wants to make the product

1:18:58

more kid-friendly, which I mean, I

1:19:00

thought this is, this product's pretty

1:19:02

kid-friendly. I mean, it's kind of,

1:19:04

I mean, I guess there's a

1:19:07

little bit more, like, rough action,

1:19:09

maybe, and I don't even know

1:19:11

what the, it's because there's not

1:19:13

a lot of like, obscene things

1:19:16

that go on WW at all.

1:19:18

I don't know how it's not

1:19:20

already kid-friendly, but I, I'll digress

1:19:22

here. Jerry Jarrett

1:19:25

of who apparently always is

1:19:27

rumored to work for this

1:19:29

company, but never does. He's

1:19:31

apparently rumored now to be

1:19:33

a consultant for them. And

1:19:36

then this is news to

1:19:38

me. A Steiner Brothers hype

1:19:40

video was shown on the

1:19:42

weekend TV. And apparently they're

1:19:44

supposed to come back in

1:19:47

June around the paper view.

1:19:49

Like I don't think they

1:19:51

come back for another year.

1:19:53

Which is just interesting. Well,

1:19:55

I mean that's getting ahead

1:19:58

of the hype isn't it?

1:20:00

I guess so next year

1:20:02

Steiner Brothers may be back.

1:20:04

That's how you build an

1:20:06

anticipation. Yeah, sure Anything else

1:20:09

here on WSW news? No,

1:20:11

we're gonna talk about WSW

1:20:13

when we talk about the

1:20:15

paper view We definitely will.

1:20:17

All right, we go to

1:20:20

the below the bottom line

1:20:22

and then we'll get into

1:20:24

the paper view Wade, really

1:20:26

covering by Flair, Rick Flair,

1:20:28

needs to take a stand.

1:20:31

He says Flair will never

1:20:33

be the Michael Jordan of

1:20:35

Wrestling. He has now become

1:20:37

a clownish whipping boy character.

1:20:39

We shouldn't feel sorry for

1:20:42

him since he's making good

1:20:44

money and is technically the

1:20:46

main, the man behind these

1:20:48

decisions. Wade says Rick Flair

1:20:50

is straight jacketed by politics

1:20:53

of other wrestlers. He goes

1:20:55

on to talk about Eric

1:20:57

Bischoff being hog-tied by management

1:20:59

over things they cannot do

1:21:01

on TV, which leads to

1:21:04

things like cotton candy as

1:21:06

weapons. Wade says the regime

1:21:08

thinks it's cleverly shooting around

1:21:10

their limitations when they clearly

1:21:12

aren't. He calls the paper

1:21:15

view finish cheap, but not

1:21:17

clever. He says the paper

1:21:19

view booking was something that

1:21:21

was executed well. but the

1:21:23

in-house fans are not the

1:21:26

casual fans they need to

1:21:28

get excited. He thinks W.S.

1:21:30

limiting itself by being sleazy,

1:21:32

such as pretending they're renegated

1:21:34

is the ultimate warrior. And

1:21:37

he sums up by saying

1:21:39

Flair owes more to the

1:21:41

industry than to stand by

1:21:43

and let it be made

1:21:45

a mockery of. Real quick

1:21:48

then, so kind of the

1:21:50

summation here, obviously he's down

1:21:52

on Flair and how he's

1:21:54

being treated and merely maybe

1:21:56

treating himself because he's the

1:21:59

main booker. It is kind

1:22:01

of interesting, like Flair, he

1:22:03

does obviously make a rebound

1:22:05

later in his career. But

1:22:07

for someone that was so

1:22:10

like, well thought of, incredible

1:22:12

worker, super respected, it's almost

1:22:14

like because there's so many

1:22:16

more years that come in

1:22:18

his career after this time

1:22:21

period, we kind of forget

1:22:23

some of this, but this

1:22:25

is really, like, Wade's not

1:22:27

wrong. This is really a

1:22:29

bad moment and error for

1:22:32

Flair. He's lucky. another like

1:22:34

two decades to go because

1:22:36

he really was able to

1:22:38

kind of assuage maybe is

1:22:40

the word I don't know

1:22:43

but like just get rid

1:22:45

of this blemish on his

1:22:47

on his career yeah overcome

1:22:49

it this is definitely like

1:22:51

the worst part the truth

1:22:54

is though is with the

1:22:56

exception of the very beginning

1:22:58

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1:23:00

I like his 96, so

1:23:02

what could I say? Yes,

1:23:05

I think that's when he

1:23:07

rebounds, yeah. But like, isn't

1:23:09

his second act in W2W

1:23:11

kind of mostly shit anyway?

1:23:13

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1:23:16

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1:23:18

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1:23:20

97 kind of like Really

1:23:22

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1:23:24

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1:23:27

97's pushing it Well, I

1:23:29

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1:23:31

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1:23:33

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1:23:35

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1:23:38

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1:23:40

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1:23:42

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1:23:44

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1:23:46

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1:30:32

uncensored 95, I think. Let's

1:30:34

get into it. I'll, I

1:30:36

guess I'll start with my

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overview notes here. Another good

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opener reminded me that as

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an 11 year old, I

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kind of thought this pay-perview

1:30:48

was like legit, unsanctioned. I

1:30:50

do remember thinking that when

1:30:52

they used the term uncensored

1:30:54

and talked about that, I

1:30:57

thought, wow, okay, maybe this

1:30:59

is real. Um, clearly a

1:31:01

mark. Um, there is a

1:31:03

Mike Tenet sighting. Is this

1:31:06

his debut on commercial? No,

1:31:08

okay. When did that happen?

1:31:10

Do you remember? Well, I

1:31:12

mean, we covered him for

1:31:15

the When World's Collide. But

1:31:17

when did he be covering

1:31:19

for Dennis W? Do you

1:31:21

remember when they had that

1:31:24

pay-perview that was all tagty

1:31:26

matches? Wow, yes,

1:31:28

it was one of the clashes.

1:31:30

Oh, I thought it was a

1:31:32

pay review. But yeah, I think

1:31:35

you're right. Oh, well, I'm getting

1:31:37

confused because there was a clash

1:31:39

in 92 that was all tag

1:31:41

and then like a great American

1:31:43

bash. That was all tag. I

1:31:46

think also were 92. It was

1:31:48

when they were doing the tournament.

1:31:50

Hmm. Anyway, he's on that. Okay.

1:31:52

Yeah, I don't remember that. He's

1:31:54

on that because, uh, Dean Malenko's

1:31:57

on it. Whichever one Dean Malenko's

1:31:59

on, yeah. Okay. Well, it's kind

1:32:01

of cool to see him here.

1:32:03

This is kind of the, I

1:32:05

don't know if he's like a

1:32:07

consistent contributor now on TV, but

1:32:09

you know, obviously we'll get to see

1:32:12

him more and more. I had

1:32:14

a note here about the main

1:32:16

like paper view logo. It looks

1:32:18

kind of ridiculous with like the

1:32:20

various colors. It just looks

1:32:22

like it defeats the purpose of

1:32:25

being, you know, uncensored and

1:32:27

un, you know, predictable. There is

1:32:29

a different version of the logo

1:32:31

though, which like just has like

1:32:33

gray red and black Graphics and

1:32:36

it just looks so much cooler.

1:32:38

It's like it almost looks like

1:32:40

it's an NWO era logo It

1:32:43

probably is yeah, maybe They're talking

1:32:45

about the renegade here

1:32:47

already which again when I was

1:32:49

watching this I was surprised because

1:32:52

I didn't realize he was here

1:32:54

already I had no recollection

1:32:57

of that, but we get a lot

1:32:59

of him as the show goes on.

1:33:01

I have a note here, the first

1:33:04

minute of the hotline is free, which

1:33:06

is just funny because of course they're

1:33:08

going to talk as slow as they

1:33:10

can and just get you to keep

1:33:13

those roto phones going for

1:33:15

another few minutes. The joke

1:33:17

is the first minute is just

1:33:19

a message from Hok Hogan.

1:33:22

And then telling you, you've

1:33:24

reached the hotline and tell

1:33:27

your mom. Yeah, that's

1:33:29

probably what it was. You're

1:33:31

not far off. Anything on

1:33:33

your end from the opener

1:33:36

perspective? So you brought

1:33:38

the logo. I actually really

1:33:41

like the logo itself, the

1:33:43

font and the graphics.

1:33:45

The logo, it looks like

1:33:47

what they're going for is