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happen just a brief introduction my

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girl Sarah Aloba she's an author

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she's a phenomenal woman of God

1:10

I actually discovered Sarah from Tiktok

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and I started following her because

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I would always see her doing

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these videos and I like this

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girl and then she message me

1:21

and was like, hey, like, I love

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your YouTube channel. And I'm like,

1:25

wait, you know me? Like, what's

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going on? Then throughout the, I

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guess we've known each other now

1:32

for about a year or maybe,

1:34

yeah, about a year now. And

1:36

then Sarah was so gracious enough

1:39

to invite me to Dallas to

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be on a panel for her

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brunch that she had. And it

1:45

was just really such a phenomenal

1:47

blessing. Sarah, welcome to quality queen

1:49

control. Hello, hello. Oh, and I

1:52

also forgot this one last thing.

1:54

I remember you actually had me

1:56

as a guest too for your

1:58

private membership program. as well, so

2:00

if there's one thing that Sarah

2:03

is, is she is not only

2:05

a woman of God, but she's

2:07

also a connector. This girl knows

2:09

so many people, so many people

2:11

love you and respect you and

2:13

adore you Sarah, like as they

2:16

should, and also I do too,

2:18

and you were just, what I

2:20

have witnessed in our friendship, what

2:22

you've managed to put together and

2:24

how you've made things happen, truly

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astonishes me. I mean, you

2:30

are the definition of really

2:32

living by faith and walking by

2:34

faith, truly, yeah. So I

2:36

know that I know a little

2:38

bit about you, all these

2:40

different things, but I really am

2:42

curious about your testimony. You

2:45

know, I wanna hear about it all.

2:47

I know you were married at one

2:49

point. I want you to touch on

2:51

that. I want you to touch on

2:53

everything about your journey, about how it

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started to where you are right now

2:57

and your career as well. Yeah, yeah,

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thank you so much for the warm

3:01

introduction. Okay, one thing about you is

3:03

that you're always gonna get people their

3:05

flowers, so I appreciate that. And

3:09

yeah, I feel the same about you. I think

3:11

like when we connected, we just hit it off

3:13

and I'm like, oh my gosh, I've been watching

3:15

you on YouTube for so many years.

3:17

Like when it came to like

3:19

dating and men, I was like, oh,

3:21

extra Christina is on. I gotta

3:23

watch her, okay? Period, okay? But

3:26

going into my testimony. Yeah, I

3:29

was previously married. It was unequally

3:31

yoked, you know, young, dumb and

3:33

in love and you think you

3:35

have it all figured out. I

3:37

think I was like 20, yeah,

3:39

about 20 and didn't have like

3:41

a wedding, wedding. We literally just

3:44

went to the courthouse and it

3:46

was just so unequally yoked and

3:48

I learned a lot in that

3:50

because I wasn't a Christian, but

3:52

I wasn't a woman of God.

3:54

And there's a difference between actually

3:57

having a relationship with Christ versus just

3:59

going to church. and still sitting behind

4:01

the scenes, you know? So,

4:05

yeah, that's how that got

4:07

started. How long were you

4:09

married, though? Two years. So

4:11

what was that divorce like,

4:13

though? Like what you see,

4:15

you mentioned equally, Yoke, but

4:17

how, what are the details? If,

4:19

whatever you feel comfortable sharing, of course.

4:22

Yeah, I'm an open book. I think

4:24

that at that time, I wanted the

4:26

exciting guy. I remember I was eating

4:28

a guy and he was in love

4:30

and all of these things. But he

4:32

was like safe. He was, he didn't

4:34

drink, he didn't party. He didn't have

4:36

the thrill at the time that I

4:38

was looking for. And at that time,

4:41

I'm like 19. He was talking about

4:43

marriage and kids and getting serious. He

4:45

was older than me. I think he

4:47

was about 25, 26. So here I

4:49

am, never drank before, never partied before

4:51

and he's wanting to have kids immediately.

4:53

Terrified, broke up with him. Found the

4:55

fun guy, right? The guy that loves

4:57

to party, who, you know, gets the

5:00

girls. I'm like, yeah, I want that.

5:02

Baby, you get, you know, I learned

5:04

my lesson through that, right? So

5:07

going through that and with the

5:09

trust issues and like, like even the

5:11

friends that he was hanging around

5:13

with that were, you know, bad influences.

5:15

I mean, like, they were like

5:17

cheating on their wives type friends. So

5:19

it's like, okay, the Bible scripture

5:21

says, bad company corrupts good character.

5:23

So although you may have good

5:25

intentions, who you bring around you

5:28

will influence you to, you know,

5:30

do bad things. And it was

5:32

just, it was just not good.

5:34

And I'm grateful for it though,

5:36

because again, everything happens for a

5:38

reason. Like if that did not

5:40

happen in my life, that would

5:42

not have pushed me closer to

5:44

Christ like I am now. And

5:46

I tend to learn life lessons

5:48

the hard way. Okay. I'm one

5:51

of Christ's hard -hitted daughters. Okay.

5:53

So sometimes we have to

5:55

go through trials and tears before

5:57

we get the revelation of

5:59

okay. now that I know better, let

6:02

me do better. But yeah, that's

6:04

how, and I remember like even

6:06

when the divorce was finally finalized,

6:08

it's like, it almost feels like,

6:10

I don't even know, I can't

6:13

say death, but I can just,

6:15

it's something that, it's worse than

6:17

a heartbreak. You feel like, okay,

6:19

this is the person that I'm

6:21

gonna do life forever with, and

6:23

yes, we're imperfect, and yes, we

6:26

go through trials, but this is

6:28

really an end. there's a morning

6:30

that takes place. And I remember us,

6:32

like, I signed the divorce decree and

6:35

then he signed it. And it's just

6:37

like after that, you have to like

6:39

take this deep inhale and exhale and

6:41

you're just like, okay. Where do I

6:44

go from here? What do I do

6:46

next? Move back to my mom's house.

6:48

And there was a lot of shame.

6:50

I think a lot of women that

6:52

go through heartbreak. So if you've been

6:55

previously married, there's a lot of shame.

6:57

There's a lot of guilt. There's a

6:59

lot of questioning that goes in

7:01

place. And I come from an

7:03

African household. So if you come

7:05

from immigrant parents and you do

7:07

things your own way, there are

7:09

a lot harsher to. So what

7:12

would you say? Aside from that

7:14

being sort of like, would you

7:16

say that's the catalyst or a

7:18

stepping stone into What made you dive

7:20

deeper into the things of God?

7:22

So after your divorce happened, did

7:24

you immediately start cracking open your

7:26

Bible and saying like, all right,

7:28

God, I surrender all to you?

7:31

What was that? What was the

7:33

catalyst? I was outside. I was

7:35

like, I'm single don't mean

7:37

I was not ready to mingle but

7:39

it's like in that in that in

7:41

that time that was my coping mechanism

7:44

so I would make bad companies as

7:46

friends and I would just party and

7:48

drink and that's what was my numbing

7:50

my pain as far as coping with

7:53

it and I remember that he moved

7:55

on immediately like I mean he has

7:57

someone like the next week and I

8:00

wouldn't say stalking but I was just

8:02

like how did you move on

8:04

so quickly and all these other questions

8:06

and it brought like a deep

8:08

depression and I remember one day I

8:10

was babbling suicidal thoughts like the

8:12

enemy came in and was telling me

8:14

lies and I um I pondered

8:16

like maybe I should go through with

8:18

it and I remember looking at

8:20

a knife and and just just the

8:22

thoughts of the enemy like beeping

8:24

in my mind and I remember like

8:26

hearing the voice of God telling

8:28

me not to go through it like not to go

8:30

through it like at that point when like someone

8:32

that you think that you're going to spend the

8:34

rest of your life with and it doesn't go

8:36

the way that you thought and they move on

8:38

and you're drinking and you're not in the right

8:40

mindset you're like just coping with you're going

8:42

with the flow you're finding unhealthy coping mechanisms

8:44

to to live and between suicidal thoughts and

8:46

I even all of a sudden I

8:49

would see like YouTube ads about love spells

8:51

like oh if you want to get

8:53

a old lover back you could do love

8:55

spells and even like the enemy just

8:57

planning all these things in my mind but

8:59

I didn't go through any of those

9:01

I was just like you know what God

9:03

I I surrender to you that was

9:06

the moment that it wasn't an overnight process

9:08

that I became a woman of God

9:10

and I knew scripture and speaking in tongue

9:12

it was like a gradual process where

9:14

God was giving you the strength um

9:16

to carry on. Did you also

9:18

happen to find like a church home

9:21

in this process as well um

9:23

like a lot of the times I

9:25

know you mentioned you were out

9:27

partying and all these different things and

9:29

that it's a gradual process but

9:31

I want to get more into the

9:33

weeds of like the day that

9:36

you had that moment where you were

9:38

like God I'm gonna dedicate to

9:40

you because the thing is me being

9:42

for me personally being a Christian

9:44

technically all my life but not

9:46

really realizing the gravity of

9:49

the cross that we have to

9:51

bear as disciples of Christ

9:53

you know I started my journey

9:55

in 2016 and then kind

9:57

of fell off a little bit

10:00

to things that happened to

10:02

me in my career and

10:04

on my journey, but I have

10:06

found that to be honest, there

10:08

are moments that I feel like I'm

10:10

not, I don't know how else

10:12

to word it, but maybe not prioritizing

10:14

as much as I should, because

10:17

Christianity is a lifestyle change, right? It's

10:19

you changing your life and turning

10:21

it to Christ. And so it's interesting

10:23

hearing different people's testimonies and their

10:25

stories, what that journey has looked like.

10:27

And a lot of the times

10:30

I find that people that may have

10:32

not grown up in church, it

10:34

seems like once they find their way,

10:36

they kind of really stay a

10:38

little bit, maybe, it's a little

10:40

bit easier for them to stay

10:42

maybe on the narrow path. And

10:46

so I'm curious if on this journey,

10:48

that you, once you were on the

10:50

path, you were like, all right, this

10:52

is it. I'm giving up everything. Like even

10:55

when it comes to relationships and

10:57

impurity, what was that transition

10:59

for you like? When you finally

11:01

made the decision to dedicate

11:03

yourself, what did your dating life

11:05

look like then? Oh my

11:08

God, God was so gracious

11:10

with me, because the day that

11:12

I went 100 % full in,

11:14

I remember that's when the

11:16

Lord was telling me to move

11:18

to Nashville, and this was

11:20

early 2021. So I'm becoming a

11:22

better believer. I'm going to

11:24

church, I'm reading my Bible, I'm

11:26

hearing the voice of God. And

11:29

he told me to surrender everything

11:31

like Abraham and to follow him and

11:33

to move to Nashville, a city

11:35

I've never, I've never been to Nashville.

11:37

I don't know anyone in Nashville. At

11:39

this time I had my business

11:41

as a makeup artist that was doing

11:43

well and God told me to

11:45

surrender everything and move. And I packed

11:47

up my car, moved by faith.

11:50

I didn't even, after paying back all

11:52

the brides that I owed and

11:54

closing my shop down and paying the

11:56

fees, and I literally moved broke,

11:58

quite literally. And that's when that was...

12:00

true surrender me accepting the call me

12:02

moving by faith not even telling my

12:04

family because I already knew my family

12:06

would be they would question me and

12:08

I know my family and I was

12:10

like I'm not either I fear from

12:12

the Lord or I'm crazy so I'm gonna

12:14

put this test this theory to a

12:17

test and I moved my faith in

12:19

everything that I needed I mean the

12:21

job my apartment, the favor that I

12:23

needed, he provided every step of the

12:25

way. I remember like driving to Nashville,

12:27

I had like a 13-hour drive from

12:30

Oklahoma City, playing gospel music, crying my

12:32

eyes out, fasting, and I'm like, Lord,

12:34

I'm truly surrendering. And that was the

12:36

birth of everything when I truly let

12:38

go of leaning into my own understanding

12:41

as far as my finances, my credit,

12:43

all these other things that we look

12:45

into the world. And I'm like, Lord,

12:47

I know I hear from you're following

12:49

you 100 percent. And with the dating,

12:51

the Lord, the Lord was really

12:53

gracious with me because I

12:55

was always the girl that had

12:58

a man, I always was like,

13:00

I would never have been single,

13:02

always had somebody. So that was

13:05

when God was really... changing

13:07

me to be dependent on him. Not

13:09

a man. And that was a transition

13:11

because I feel like, this is gonna

13:13

be a little TMI, I'm very, I,

13:16

I, how do I say this correctly?

13:18

And girls, say it all, we wanna

13:20

hear it. Your girl was still fornicating,

13:22

right? Like I was still, you know,

13:24

how little sneaky link, I still, you

13:26

know, hey big head, what's you doing?

13:28

You know, even though I had the

13:30

call. That's where God

13:33

was so gracious, because I remember

13:35

even when I was in Nashville,

13:37

and this was like when my

13:39

ministry just first started, and God

13:42

is like, he's pruning me, changing

13:44

me, and I remember I was

13:46

on my way to a sneaky

13:48

links house, and I'm hearing the voice

13:50

of God as I'm driving there. Like,

13:53

I'm driving there, I'm like, oh yeah,

13:55

we've been an aye and an aye.

13:57

And I'm hearing the voice of God

13:59

literally. while we were having sex, I'm hearing

14:01

the voice of God say, you're not supposed

14:04

to be doing the Sarah, you're not

14:06

supposed to be here, Sarah. So it

14:08

was like, even if I wanted to

14:10

send, he would not let me. Like,

14:12

I'm like, bro, I can't, I can't

14:15

do nothing. And that's when he started,

14:17

he literally, the conviction started growing, I

14:19

kept hearing the voice of God, and

14:21

I truly surrendered the sexual. the temptations

14:24

of having sex too. So yeah. And

14:26

what has that journey been like? Wait,

14:28

Sarah, if you don't mind, how old

14:30

are you? Oh, 28. Oh, yes, I

14:32

forgot. You a baby. Oh, my gosh.

14:35

Okay. Two years apart. Two years apart.

14:37

Two years apart. I'm so dramatic. I

14:39

always do this. I will tell you,

14:42

you know, you know, get in

14:44

your 30s, ovulation. I don't

14:46

know with science behind it,

14:48

but. Something shifts, something changes

14:50

and it's like being absent

14:53

and really dedicating and you

14:55

know, really living by the

14:57

standards of what God wants

14:59

us to do in as

15:01

far as purity goes. It

15:04

can definitely be really really

15:06

challenging surrendering to that especially

15:08

when you really like someone

15:10

and like God created you

15:12

know intimacy for a reason

15:15

because it's a beautiful thing

15:17

and and also it is

15:19

when done in the biblical context it is

15:21

a form of worship. And so I think

15:23

it's like honestly I say all this to

15:25

say to people that are out there that

15:27

are watching this or listening to this like

15:29

it is absolutely worth the wait because we

15:31

all have done we all have done things

15:33

that we shouldn't have did out of the

15:36

will. None of us really know what it

15:38

really feels like to do it in the

15:40

will. Don't you want to see what that's

15:42

like? Like aren't you kind of curious about

15:44

like what? Imagine like going home to your

15:46

man, your man, your man, your man, and

15:48

it's giving very much. It's holy. It's a

15:50

holy thing all of a sudden. It's

15:52

like, nah, like to experience that is

15:54

so wonderful. And so I know that

15:56

that definitely presents its own set of

15:58

challenges for those that. are trying to

16:00

hold on, but I will say

16:02

it actually does get a little

16:05

bit easier along the way. There

16:08

are some times that it may be

16:10

a little bit different than others due to

16:12

like just hormones really to be honest,

16:14

but outside of that, you know, and

16:16

also what do you do when you

16:18

do finally get a man and

16:20

now you're put to the test of

16:23

am I really going to, it's

16:25

easy to, it's out of sight, out

16:27

of mind when you are single

16:29

and there's no one on your phone,

16:31

but what happens when there is

16:33

someone around? What do the landlords look

16:35

like within? Have you had an

16:38

experience, if you are comfortable sharing, if

16:40

you had an experience where you

16:42

have dated someone and now these boundaries

16:44

are having to be put to

16:46

the test? Yeah, for

16:48

100%, I think that having

16:50

someone that has the same reverence

16:52

of the Lord makes things

16:54

a million times easier. Not saying

16:56

that the temptations are not

16:58

there because we're human and this

17:01

was a godly concept that

17:03

the enemy has screwed in regards

17:05

to lust, but it's one

17:07

of those things where even now

17:09

I am dating and just

17:11

him wanting to wait until marriage

17:13

to him wanting to leave

17:15

me in that area, right?

17:18

Wait, what? Hold up. Now

17:20

you better tell me about this after. Oh,

17:22

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

17:24

wait. Okay, I can tell you, I'm sorry,

17:27

I just had to. But it's one of

17:29

those things where I remember if I was

17:31

dating a guy that did not fear the

17:33

Lord as much as me, we were not

17:35

100 % equally yoked. I felt like I was

17:37

the only one that was holding on to

17:39

this thing and the temptation was a whole

17:42

lot more.

17:44

And I think that when you have

17:46

somebody who respects you and has the

17:48

same reverence of the Lord and they

17:50

desire to also wait until marriage, it's

17:52

a lot more meaningful and then you

17:54

also have someone that can hold

17:57

you accountable because area,

17:59

sometimes. There's days where I'm weak

18:02

and he's like, uh-uh, we can't, we're

18:04

not doing this for waiting until marriage.

18:06

And there's moments where he may be

18:08

weak and I'm like, oh, no, we're

18:11

waiting, we're waiting, sorry, you know what

18:13

I mean? So, and past situations where

18:15

I was dating, or talking to someone

18:18

that did not have that same reverence,

18:20

it's like, any chance that they got,

18:22

you know, they're trying to have sex

18:25

with you. being with someone that loves

18:27

the Lord as much as you do.

18:29

So two things, what would you say,

18:32

like what would you say to people

18:34

that feel like, oh, well, just because

18:36

someone is not where you are, doesn't

18:39

mean that you shouldn't like wait around

18:41

for them. What is your opinion on

18:43

that? Because I have my own personal

18:46

opinion about that statement. Waiting as far

18:48

as what? Like, if someone is not

18:50

where you are in your faith as

18:53

you, why can't you wait around for

18:55

them to come to God in the

18:57

way that you currently are? What do

19:00

you feel about situations like that? My

19:02

perspective is that everyone has free will.

19:04

So if that's something that you desire,

19:06

I think even scripture lets us know

19:09

that it's not good for a believer

19:11

to be yoked with an unbeliever, but

19:13

in case you do, right? Because there

19:16

are people that don't listen to scripture

19:18

and do whatever they want to do

19:20

anyways, it's you have to suffer the

19:23

consequences as far as always praying alone

19:25

and being the covering of your family

19:27

by yourself. And I've even coached women

19:30

who married men who were not. strong

19:32

in the Lord and may always complain

19:34

about, I feel like I'm praying by

19:37

myself, I feel like I'm in warfare

19:39

by myself, and it's something that I

19:41

never, I don't want to, I don't

19:44

want that for myself. I think that

19:46

for me, being equally elked as far

19:48

as his reverence for the Lord is

19:51

100% important to me. Now he may

19:53

not have to be a spiritual matures

19:55

me as far as he doesn't have

19:58

to speak in tongues, and he doesn't

20:00

have to be on that level. far

20:02

as I guess maturity in Christ, but

20:04

what I do look for is his

20:07

willingness to grow in Christ and his

20:09

own personal relationship with Christ. Like, am

20:11

I having to tell him to go

20:14

to church? That's a red flag. If

20:16

he has his own personal relationship, like

20:18

this guy that I'm dating now, like

20:21

I see him pray. It's not even

20:23

for show. Like it'll be something where

20:25

he'll duck off and go to the

20:28

prayer closet and just pray or I

20:30

don't know. It's just a different,

20:32

it's completely different from previous guys

20:34

that I've dated to where I

20:37

felt like I was their mom

20:39

nagging them to pray. So check

20:41

their fruits. And know what you're

20:43

willing to handle. I think that.

20:45

you know, material things and money

20:47

and all these things are great,

20:49

but when your marriage goes through

20:52

the test of fire... Those things

20:54

are not going to be important.

20:56

The one thing that's going to

20:58

hold you guys together is that

21:00

you guys both have a solid foundation

21:03

in Christ. What happens if somebody gets

21:05

sick or he loses his job or

21:07

there's tension in the marriage or there's

21:10

warfare? What do you guys do? It's

21:12

YouTube being able to come together and

21:14

face those battles together. And there are

21:17

women that do it by themselves because

21:19

they did not choose correctly. Wow. I

21:21

mean, that was a fantastic answer. me

21:24

as well. Like for me personally, I

21:26

have always been of the belief, which

21:28

is why I was curious to

21:30

hear what your opinion was,

21:33

that the man of God that is

21:35

for me is going to be someone

21:37

that is more closer aligned with where

21:39

I'm at spiritually. Again, maybe doesn't necessarily

21:42

have to be like speaking in Tongues

21:44

like in the way that I do

21:46

or whatever or actually no I would

21:48

like him speaking tongue but he doesn't

21:51

have to like preaching doubt like you

21:53

don't have to be an aspiring preacher

21:55

or anything like that I don't need

21:57

I don't really necessarily need that but

21:59

the because when we look at

22:01

the biblical hierarchy of how a

22:04

household is supposed to be run

22:06

like it is very important God

22:08

is at the top and that

22:10

the man is able to lead

22:12

you so that in moments where

22:14

you're weak he is strong and

22:16

vice versa that cannot be present

22:19

if this man is has you're

22:21

the one that is more spiritually

22:23

mature that's why I don't feel

22:25

the way that I do about

22:27

unequally yoked relationships relationships Yeah, yeah,

22:29

because that's the reality of it. So

22:31

all the people that say like, well,

22:34

girl, you can't always expect people to

22:36

be where you're at in a relationship

22:38

because you never know who God is

22:40

going to send you. That's for you.

22:43

I know who God's going to send

22:45

me for me. I feel there's an

22:47

inner knowing that I know and I

22:49

know it with conviction. So it's

22:51

like, I don't really subscribe to any

22:54

other rhetoric in that regard. But

22:56

yes, I'm very happy that you shared

22:58

that you shared. your life and transitioning

23:00

from being the party girl, drinking,

23:02

having fun, all these different things. And

23:05

to your point, God is so

23:07

kind and he is so gracious because

23:09

we all, when we all start

23:11

out. We are not we are so

23:13

different from when we started out you

23:16

know when you start out like God is

23:18

gonna as they went they were healed it

23:20

says in the Bible as they went and

23:22

a lot of times we have this perception

23:24

that all right when I get it all

23:26

together then I'm a you know I'm gonna

23:28

give it to God it's like no no

23:30

no no no as they went they were

23:32

healed we have to step out on a

23:34

date that's what it's all about and one

23:36

thing that I love that pastor Philip No,

23:38

Pastor Jerry Flower says, he says that the

23:40

opposite of faith is not fear. It is

23:42

sight. And I stand on that because

23:45

what does life look like when

23:47

nothing in the physical realm is

23:49

showing evidence of what it is

23:51

that we're hoping and believing God

23:53

for, but we still have to

23:55

hold on to that. So in

23:57

your transition of, of, you know,

23:59

part. and all these different

24:01

things, have you had friendships

24:03

drop along the way? How

24:05

has your faith affected your

24:07

friendships and your community? 100%

24:09

I think that when I

24:11

gave it all to Christ.

24:13

He opened my eyes in

24:16

regards to the type of

24:18

friends that I was keeping

24:20

close. Even dear close friends,

24:22

I mean best friends for

24:24

years, unfortunately had to disconnect

24:26

myself and just love them

24:28

from a distance and pray because,

24:30

you know, some of the people that

24:32

I was connected to, not to judge

24:35

them, but it was more like I

24:37

knew that They were a bad company

24:39

and they were going to pull me

24:42

back up a lifestyle that I had

24:44

no longer desired because again when God

24:46

calls you he's calling you to greater

24:48

He wants you to flee from sin

24:51

and temptations and I knew that the

24:53

old company that I was keeping Were

24:55

not going to keep me up to

24:58

that standard biblical standard. So I went

25:00

from like being very codependent in regards

25:02

to relationships in regards to friendships to

25:04

now, like, completely being 100% alone and

25:07

just having Christ as my best friend.

25:09

I mean, for a year and a

25:11

half where anything that I needed, conversations,

25:14

and then him giving me discernment to

25:16

navigate, who really likes me, who doesn't

25:18

like me, who's jealous, who all these

25:20

things came from that isolation season and

25:23

my wilderness where it was just me.

25:25

and the Lord and not being dependent

25:27

on anybody but him. So did you

25:30

ever receive any negative feedback in regards

25:32

to your friends saying like oh like

25:34

what's up with you like why like

25:36

since when have you changed because it's

25:39

easy to talk about these things in

25:41

hindsight and be like yes I had

25:43

to give it to God and let

25:45

it go but Really like these

25:48

are there many deaths these are

25:50

like deaths and we have to

25:52

grieve the loss of these relationships

25:54

and grieving the loss of people

25:56

that we thought were our friends

25:58

and they talk about how Christians

26:00

are, but yet we're the ones that

26:03

are being judged because of what

26:05

we believe in and it not aligning

26:07

with some people that were in our

26:09

lives before. So what was that severance

26:12

like, like, you know, with your friendships?

26:14

Like, was there a formal conversation

26:16

or was it a natural evolution of,

26:18

we don't speak about it, but we

26:21

know what's up? It was a disconnection,

26:23

a natural disconnection. I remember one of

26:25

my closest best friends for since

26:27

middle school, quite literally. you know she

26:29

was doing a couple of things that

26:32

I did not like and I brought

26:34

it to her attention and it was

26:36

one of those things was like you're

26:38

judging me and I don't like this

26:41

and it was just like that tension

26:43

of you're being called to serve God

26:45

and do better and someone that you

26:47

may love and that may be dear

26:50

to you is not there yet. So

26:52

I have two options, is either to

26:54

fly or sink, in terminology of, I

26:57

don't want to be weighed down by

26:59

anybody or anything that is going

27:01

to prevent me from my

27:03

purpose and calling in life.

27:05

So oftentimes we have to make

27:07

that decision because, again, the people

27:10

that we may keep may be

27:12

the same people that may be

27:14

keeping us from our full potential

27:16

in Christ. I think in scripture

27:19

in the book of Joshua. It's

27:21

called, there's a passage about the

27:23

curse possession, where God told them

27:25

instructions in regards to, you know, go

27:28

to this camp and you're going to

27:30

overtake them, but don't take anything from

27:32

this camp. There was somebody in his

27:34

camp that decided to steal one of

27:37

the possessions, and because that person decided

27:39

to steal the possession, they lost a

27:41

lot of the battles. They lost a

27:44

major battle, and a lot of people

27:46

died. I think about that as far

27:48

as like friendships, like there's certain people,

27:51

even relationships that women could have been

27:53

graduated or you could have reached this

27:55

full potential alive but because you attached

27:58

yourself to this toxic man or this

28:00

toxic friend, it prevented you from the

28:02

full potential of calling that God

28:04

had for you in your life.

28:06

So in that moment, I remember

28:08

times I was in a relationship

28:10

that was toxic and was not

28:12

serving me and I feel like

28:14

I could have been a lot

28:16

further in life had I not

28:18

had that. particular person in life.

28:20

And I think that's the same

28:22

type of mindset that we need

28:24

to have in regards to just

28:26

anybody that we keep, our friends,

28:29

our relationships, even family members. Because

28:31

again, not all family, you know, scripture

28:33

says, you know, who are my brothers,

28:35

and my sisters, who are my family.

28:37

Yeah, I mean, it really is true.

28:39

I mean, that's saying in the Bible

28:41

where it says bad company corrupts get

28:44

more, it is, it is so true.

28:46

And when I think back in the

28:48

day, I always used to think to

28:50

myself, like, oh, like, just because my

28:52

friends are doing certain things, doesn't mean

28:54

I'm going to do it. You, studies

28:57

have shown, even on a scientific level,

28:59

you become most like the five people

29:01

that you hang out with the most.

29:03

That's why when you hang out with

29:05

certain people, you find yourself like saying

29:08

some of the things that they say

29:10

or saying. Yeah, the terminology. Yeah, the

29:12

terminology. You start to adopt it as

29:14

your own, which goes to show you.

29:17

of more impressionable than you actually think

29:19

you are. And that's for everyone on

29:21

this, that's being a human being. You

29:23

know, we are actually way more impressionable

29:26

than we realize. And so we do,

29:28

there is no world where you can

29:30

juggle both things. And I think coming

29:32

to Christ, we do, it's uncomfortable at

29:34

first, right? You go through that phase

29:37

of like, all right, I don't wanna

29:39

be too much of this, because if

29:41

I am, then I don't want them

29:43

to think I'm like judgingging them. But

29:45

in the end, what's crazy is they're

29:47

going to think that of you anyway,

29:49

right? Like I have been a Christian

29:51

my entire life and a lot of

29:54

my friends have naturally just so happened,

29:56

I got serious about my journey, they

29:58

got serious on their own. and I

30:00

got very blessed, but there have

30:02

been some individuals in my life

30:05

where they haven't made that

30:07

crossover and there had to be

30:09

a severance in relationship because even

30:12

in me doing my own thing,

30:14

me living my life to the

30:16

best of my ability, disciplining after

30:19

Christ, made them still feel judged

30:21

when I wasn't even talking about them,

30:23

I was not doing. anything to them.

30:26

Your presence alone, your presence alone provides

30:28

them the conviction and they don't like

30:30

that conviction so they'd rather just keep

30:33

you away. Exactly and so

30:35

that's going to happen like on this

30:37

journey like there will be friendships that

30:39

will that will come to an end

30:41

and and you know I think even

30:43

in your case it was nice that

30:45

it was kind of a natural evolution

30:47

and it was amicable I know there

30:49

are people out there that it wasn't

30:51

it was you know a hate campaign

30:53

oh you think you're better than me

30:55

or you know what I mean and

30:57

it was a lot more difficult and

30:59

so we pray for those people but

31:02

yeah what about your career What made

31:04

you realize on your journey, like,

31:06

wait a second, these are the

31:08

gifts I'm operating in, I turns

31:10

out I'm a prophetess, like, what's

31:12

going on, or I don't know

31:15

if that's the office that you

31:17

say that you do walk in,

31:19

but how did you recognize the

31:21

office that you walked in? Confirmations,

31:24

like your dad saying, hey, is

31:26

that prophetess Sarah, and I see,

31:28

that, blah, blah, blah, and I'm like,

31:30

okay. Yes. I don't call

31:32

myself that. I just think that

31:34

I just want to be a

31:36

servant of the Lord. It's whatever

31:38

people call me, teacher, leader, minister,

31:40

prophetess, whatever the case is. I

31:42

don't really go by, I'm very,

31:44

I just want to serve the

31:46

Lord. So I think as far

31:48

as walking into my calling and

31:50

my gifts, again, going through the

31:52

trials and tribulations of my past

31:54

was truly a blessing because when

31:56

I gave my life to Christ,

31:58

he gave me purpose. history and

32:00

hosting these events and doing things for

32:02

the homeless in Dallas and just

32:04

being a blessing and stepping into the

32:07

marketplace as far as providing coaching

32:09

sessions and writing books. And I love

32:11

what I do. This is purpose

32:13

driven and I wouldn't change it for

32:15

the world, but I understand too

32:17

that the trial and tribulations of going

32:19

through the divorce and the suicidal

32:22

thoughts and all these things had to

32:24

happen for me to have this

32:26

full revelation. So it's truly a blessing,

32:28

like Genesis 50 verse 20, what

32:30

God, what the enemy meant to

32:32

her to God, use it

32:34

for your good. Truly. Amen. There

32:36

was, I remember you had

32:38

a testimony, one amongst many that

32:40

you have where you were

32:42

sharing the fact that you went

32:44

from literally like living out of

32:46

your car to getting this

32:49

invitation to be in like a

32:51

million dollar house. Yeah. Um, it

32:53

was, it was, I went through

32:55

the subfiction process and I lost

32:57

everything. And there was a woman,

32:59

a God that I was connected

33:01

to through this business mentoring group.

33:04

And we barely knew each other

33:06

and she was in Nashville. We've

33:08

literally just exchanged a few conversations

33:10

and I told her my situation

33:12

and she welcomed me into her

33:15

home. And I literally was staying with

33:17

her for like maybe about two weeks before

33:19

we went to a conference in Chicago. I

33:21

scrapped up what I had and I got

33:23

my ticket. We shared a hotel room with

33:25

three other women to God. It was four

33:27

of us in a two bedroom hotel, never

33:29

again, but it was, it was, it was

33:31

like, I was so hungry. I'm like, Lord,

33:34

I know you're calling me to Chicago. I

33:36

know I'm going to receive favor and blessings

33:38

at this conference. So I spent what I

33:40

had went to this conference. People recognized me

33:42

from my TikTok and God was really working

33:44

with me with pride. Because sometimes,

33:46

you know, when you have a following

33:48

and you're going through trials and tribulations,

33:50

a very humbling thing. And in that

33:52

moment, God told me to go to

33:55

the mic. And in that mic, in

33:57

that conference, I just like, Hey, I

33:59

lost everything. staying with this woman of

34:01

God here temporarily, but I still trust

34:03

in God. Like I just, I didn't care

34:05

at that point. I just wanted to

34:07

share my testimonial because they were these women

34:09

of God on stage that were like

34:11

making six figures, six, seven figures. And what

34:13

inspired me to even tell my testimony

34:15

was all of them were telling about, they

34:18

were all telling their testimony on how

34:20

they got there between selling their homes or

34:22

going through a divorce or losing everything.

34:24

They just shared their, because a lot of

34:26

the times we see people at the

34:28

top, but we never see like the journey

34:30

that they had to endure to get

34:32

there. So that gave me the courage to

34:34

go on stage and tell my testimony.

34:37

And that just opened the floodgates of heaven.

34:39

When I mean favor, like women came

34:41

up to me, they blessed me, one woman

34:43

in particular that I was sitting next

34:45

to, she's a business coach. And we connected

34:47

and I didn't think anything of it.

34:49

We exchanged numbers and we had like a

34:51

girls night, holy night, like we just

34:53

went out and grabbed food. And it was

34:55

like really cute mocktails and stuff like

34:58

that. And I remember coming back from Nashville,

35:00

going back to Nashville and the next

35:02

day get a text from him like, hey,

35:04

I'm actually gonna be in Sarasota, Florida.

35:06

I'm staying in this million dollar Airbnb. If

35:09

you wanna come get a ticket girl, I

35:11

found the cheapest flight that I could. It

35:13

was like $105. I flew myself over there

35:16

and she like, she gave me like a

35:18

lot of knowledge. She gave me like one

35:20

-on -one coaching. It was like a VIP day,

35:22

one -on -one coaching for free where she told

35:24

me how I can scale my social media,

35:26

gave me tips in regards to how I

35:28

can start coaching. And it was just like

35:30

a gift from the Lord quite literally. And

35:33

it was a wonderful experience because

35:35

it was literally like a night and

35:37

day transformation. One day I'm literally

35:39

on a friend's couch and the next

35:42

day I'm literally chilling in this

35:44

million dollar Airbnb beach side, eating at

35:46

Woof's Chris. This woman I got

35:48

literally took care of everything. I still

35:50

talk to her today. I love

35:52

her. But it was like a night

35:54

and day transformation of like truly

35:56

walking by faith and trusting God and

35:58

he will position people and put

36:00

people to favor you. and just take

36:02

care of you. So, yeah. Thank

36:04

you so much for sharing that, Sarah,

36:06

because I often find that I'm a

36:08

very detailed person when it comes

36:10

to sharing like testimony and journeys

36:12

and things like that. And it's,

36:14

you hear people literally all the

36:16

time say like, oh yes, I

36:18

lost everything. And now I make

36:21

six figures a month. And it's

36:23

like, okay, but how? Like we

36:25

wanna know the step -by -step process

36:27

of how so that we can

36:29

see God's provision in your life.

36:31

And so here you have a

36:33

situation like you said, where you

36:35

lost everything. And then this woman

36:37

gave you not only a break

36:39

and a place to stay, but

36:42

she also helped equip you

36:44

with tools, which is

36:46

so much of God's provision

36:48

to use for your own

36:50

business. Talk about a gift. Yeah,

36:52

and even in that season, I

36:54

knew my birthday was approaching up.

36:57

So this time here was August

36:59

and the Sarasota, Florida thing happened

37:01

like beginning of September. And I

37:03

remember telling God a couple months

37:05

ago, like Lord for my birthday,

37:07

I don't know how, but I

37:09

would love to be by a

37:12

beach. I would love to be

37:14

by a beach and just have

37:16

a break. I did not know

37:18

that, hey, you're gonna go through

37:20

this eviction and you're gonna lose everything

37:22

and you're gonna be on the couch,

37:24

but just trust me in this because

37:26

I already positioned someone to favor you,

37:29

who's gonna give you that luxury experience

37:31

that you've been praying for. It's just

37:33

not gonna look what you thought it

37:35

was gonna look like quite literally. Wow.

37:37

So would you say that now you

37:39

utilize those skills in order to make

37:41

your business profitable now? 100%, God has

37:43

been sending people to help me. I

37:47

had my first, not

37:49

to brag or anything, but I

37:51

had my first $5 ,000 month or

37:53

excuse me, $5 ,000 a week, two

37:55

weeks ago. And I remember when I

37:57

used to make that in a

38:00

year. Like in my wilderness like 300 dollars a

38:02

month 100% doing ministry, like I'm betting on

38:04

people giving, like they're tithing, their seeds, like

38:06

that's what I was living off. And sometimes

38:08

even buying ramen was difficult. And ramen's like

38:10

what, $2? I'm telling you it was such

38:12

a stripping. So when I look back in

38:15

my accounts and looking at like coaching and

38:17

I'm looking at the account and I'm like,

38:19

whoa. And so moving along here, briefly I

38:21

want to touch on how you got into

38:23

Tik Talk, like what, you know, have you

38:25

always posted about God on your Instagram account?

38:27

Did you begin having a social media talking

38:29

about God? Or did you have to go

38:32

through a transition with that too? I had

38:34

to go through a transition. So I started

38:36

off when I first decided to go on

38:38

social media. And again, this was like right

38:40

after the divorce and I had like insecurity

38:42

issues and God was calling me to the

38:44

forefront and I was working on my confidence.

38:46

I was healing and I loved fashion. So

38:49

I started off as a fashion content creator

38:51

and I was just showing halls. I was

38:53

doing halls, Sarah halls, whatever fall fashion wise.

38:55

And that's how I started. And when I

38:57

moved to Nashville, that's when God was really

38:59

stirring me up in regards to speaking. And

39:01

I remember I would post a little. a

39:03

little about it on Instagram, but it wasn't

39:06

really being received well because... when you're doing

39:08

a pivot like that, when you're going from

39:10

like being very secular and you're showing outfits,

39:12

and you're being a little sexy, so now

39:14

speaking about God, it's, you know, the audience

39:16

that you were attracting beforehand may not receive

39:18

the new information now. So you have to

39:20

go through this like little season of just

39:22

being consistent with that new topic that you're

39:25

talking about, so people see that you're serious,

39:27

and this is who you are now inspired.

39:29

and want to learn from you. And I

39:31

remember one friend of mine, his name is

39:33

Solomon, he has a big platform on TikTok.

39:35

He slid him. DMs because

39:37

I posted a prophetic

39:39

word on my Instagram

39:42

and he was like,

39:44

Sarah, you need to

39:46

be on TikTok. TikTok

39:48

would receive you really,

39:50

really well. And I

39:52

did. And he was

39:54

right. And that's whenever,

39:56

you know, TikTok blew

39:59

up in just regards

40:01

to just releasing a

40:03

prophetic word or anything

40:05

that I noticed within

40:07

the music industry or

40:09

anything demonic or an

40:11

encouraging word. It was

40:13

really like whatever like

40:16

the Lord put in

40:18

my spirit to teach

40:20

and preach. And it

40:22

was just really received

40:24

well. So yeah. That

40:26

was my favorite thing

40:28

that you used to post

40:30

when you would talk about

40:33

the celebrities. It's a guilty

40:35

pleasure of mine. I love

40:37

celebrity like T. I love

40:39

talking about celebrities like, and I know

40:41

they are still very much human

40:43

beings like we are, but I just

40:45

love knowing about like their lives,

40:47

like not in an exploitative way, but

40:49

I just love knowing like, and

40:51

then I also love talking about the

40:54

reality of the demonic things that

40:56

are going on in the entertainment industry.

40:58

I love that type of stuff.

41:00

So that also really drew me to

41:02

your platform. One of the things

41:04

that I also really admire about you,

41:06

Sarah, is your boldness, like for you

41:08

to have transitioned within the past

41:10

couple of years, you say into, you

41:12

know, going, getting into ministry for

41:14

you to have just stepped into your

41:16

calling, releasing these prophetic words and

41:19

doing things like that is very bold.

41:21

It's like that really just shows

41:23

like you're really allowing God to use

41:25

you and you were really using

41:27

and stewarding your gifts. Well, I think

41:29

no matter what it is that

41:31

we feel like, to be honest, I

41:33

can sing and it's not something

41:35

I like to talk about because I

41:38

still don't feel comfortable doing it.

41:40

I like talking. I could talk,

41:42

talk, talk, you know, but

41:44

when it comes to saying it's

41:46

always been like a bit

41:48

of something that I would get

41:50

actual like stage fright of,

41:53

and I don't get nervous talking. I could

41:55

talk in a room full of a million

41:57

people. I could talk at a stadium and I

41:59

don't feel anything. Zero nerves, but ask

42:01

me to sing. I'm shaking, my throat's

42:03

dry, like all these different things.

42:05

And so I don't wanna leave the

42:07

earth without, when at the time

42:09

of, when I'm 103 and God says,

42:11

you never sang, Aisha. And so

42:14

I joined the praise and worship team

42:16

in my church. And so there

42:18

are times where I would lead songs

42:20

and things like that. And so

42:22

that shaking feeling has left me now.

42:24

So I got into the practice

42:26

of doing it, but it's still not

42:28

my favorite thing to do, but

42:31

I do find there are moments that

42:33

like, I actually am kind of

42:35

enjoying it. So that allowed, that forced

42:37

me to have to step out

42:39

in boldness too, but when it comes

42:41

to releasing, like using your gifts

42:43

and releasing these prophetic words, like I

42:45

really wanna commend you on stewarding

42:48

your gifts from God well and for

42:50

allowing God to, you know, use

42:52

you. It's really a beautiful thing. And

42:54

the last thing I wanna touch

42:56

on is deliverance. Now thanks to you,

42:58

you actually introduced me to Naja,

43:00

who I actually did have on the

43:02

podcast and Naja performed my deliverance

43:05

for me. And I want you to

43:07

share what your opinion about deliverance

43:09

is, because I know there are a

43:11

lot of misconceptions out there in

43:13

the Christian community. Deliverance sets you free.

43:15

I think that when I learned

43:17

and I grew up walking Christ and

43:19

I understood what deliverance was as

43:22

far as certain strongholds that we may

43:24

have, whether it's a soul tie,

43:26

homosexuality, pride, alcoholism, all these things that

43:28

the enemy may have as a

43:30

stronghold or even generational curses that we

43:32

may possess as far as like

43:34

paying attention to your bloodline if everyone's

43:36

a drunk, if everyone's, you know,

43:39

can't have kids or, you know, paying

43:41

attention to the patterns in your

43:43

bloodline, deliverance is really what's going to

43:45

set you free from the plot

43:47

and schemes of the enemy. So especially

43:49

is when you're walking in ministry,

43:51

you have to have wise counsel around

43:53

you. You need to have people

43:56

that you can, not even a lot.

43:58

is people that you can truly

44:00

let your guard down and be honest

44:02

and transparent in regards to what

44:04

you struggle with and how you can

44:06

be set free. Because when we

44:08

step into ministry, the enemy is at

44:11

our necks trying to make us

44:13

fall and stumble. That's why you see

44:15

so many ministers fall and you

44:17

hear about these scandals and them being

44:19

predators and all these things is

44:21

because the enemy was always stirring up

44:23

something within them and they didn't

44:25

have a safe place to go to

44:28

to talk about their lust or

44:30

whatever private battles that they may be dealing

44:32

with. And it's hard to do that when

44:34

you have a platform in regards to

44:36

really trusting one person, like, hey, this is

44:38

what I privately struggle with. I need

44:40

to be set free from that. But even

44:42

for everybody, whatever it is that you're

44:44

privately dealing with, it's called secret sin. Being

44:48

set free from the enemy

44:50

is such a freeing feeling. And

44:52

it's a continuous walk. Like

44:54

even when you get deliverance, you

44:57

have the strength to flee

44:59

sin, but the temptations will always

45:01

be there. The enemy's always trying to

45:03

lure you back to a place that

45:05

you've already been set free from. Yes,

45:07

yeah. Thank you so much for sharing

45:09

that. I 100 %

45:11

agree with that. And also,

45:14

again, I'm gonna reiterate that

45:17

as believers, we absolutely do

45:19

need deliverance. And I also

45:21

am of the belief that

45:23

we need deliverance yearly. It's

45:26

a tune -up. You know what

45:28

I mean? Because, again, the

45:31

temptations for certain things will always

45:33

be there. And we have

45:35

to walk in the spirit and

45:37

allow the Holy Spirit to

45:39

really allow us to display the

45:41

fruits, to show that we

45:44

are walking with God. But things happen.

45:46

You know what I mean? We still do

45:48

live in our flesh. And so things

45:50

do happen. And so I wanna encourage, and

45:52

deliverance is free by the way, it's

45:54

not something that you pay for. So you

45:56

have to worry about anyone can get

45:58

deliverance if you find someone and also... So don't

46:00

just go to anyone because a lot

46:02

of people say a lot of things.

46:05

So you have to have discernment as

46:07

well. But I knew I was in

46:09

good hands because, you know, that, you

46:12

know, nausea came highly referred from you.

46:14

But I want to say thank you

46:16

so much for being on this show

46:19

today. Sarah, it was an absolute pleasure

46:21

speaking with you. And I really just

46:23

pray that God continues to use you

46:26

and, you know, let his favor be

46:28

upon you. also that we're gonna have

46:30

in store because there are a lot

46:32

of things like there's more collaboration to

46:35

go okay like there definitely is I

46:37

will be sure to put all of

46:39

Sarah's information down in the show notes

46:41

again she has a book that she

46:43

popped up and showed us at the

46:45

brunch I was like Sarah wait a

46:47

second you released the book what is

46:50

going on so my girl Sarah and

46:52

we're doing a whole relaunched because I

46:54

think I told you in regards to

46:56

just like the editing issues so we're

46:58

literally pre-launching the book in January. So

47:00

the book is not going to be

47:03

available for the public until January because

47:05

the editor has to re-edit everything that

47:07

the previous editor did not do. Talk

47:09

about warfare, but it is what it

47:11

is. So pre-orders are available for wholesome

47:14

women. January 15th I believe, but I

47:16

will give you more details later on.

47:18

Okay, yeah, sounds good. I'll definitely put

47:20

that in the in the show notes

47:23

as well. Again, thank you so much

47:25

for coming on the show and I'm

47:27

excited to see what God has in

47:29

store for you and for us in

47:31

the future. Thank you. And with that

47:34

being said, my loves, thank you so

47:36

much for listening and taking the time

47:38

out to spend with us on today.

47:40

Let me know in the comment section

47:42

down below if you were watching this.

47:44

Who else you would like to have

47:46

on the show and what would you,

47:48

whose testimony would you guys like to

47:50

hear about or what other topics would

47:52

you like to hear about then with

47:54

with that being said, do not forget

47:56

that I love you and God loves

47:58

you and I'll speak to you. beautiful

48:00

angels in my next podcast

48:02

episode.