Ep. #667: Pete Buttigieg, Larry Wilmore, Rep. Byron Donalds

Ep. #667: Pete Buttigieg, Larry Wilmore, Rep. Byron Donalds

Released Saturday, 20th July 2024
 1 person rated this episode
Ep. #667: Pete Buttigieg, Larry Wilmore, Rep. Byron Donalds

Ep. #667: Pete Buttigieg, Larry Wilmore, Rep. Byron Donalds

Ep. #667: Pete Buttigieg, Larry Wilmore, Rep. Byron Donalds

Ep. #667: Pete Buttigieg, Larry Wilmore, Rep. Byron Donalds

Saturday, 20th July 2024
 1 person rated this episode
Rate Episode

Episode Transcript

Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.

Use Ctrl + F to search

0:00

Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of

0:02

Angie. When you use Angie for

0:04

your home projects, you know all

0:06

your jobs will be done well.

0:08

Roof repair, done well. Kitchen

0:10

sink install, done well. Deck

0:12

upgrades, done well. Electrical upgrade,

0:15

done well. Angie's been connecting

0:17

homeowners with skilled pros for

0:19

nearly 30 years, so

0:22

we know the difference between

0:24

done and done well. Hire high-quality,

0:26

certified pros at angie.com. CHEERING

0:56

AND APPLAUSE Hi,

1:11

everybody. How

1:15

are you? How

1:17

are you, people? Thank

1:21

you. Thank you very much. I appreciate

1:24

it. Oh,

1:26

boy, I'm so excited. CHEERING

1:28

AND APPLAUSE Thank you. I

1:31

appreciate it. Thank you very much. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE I

1:35

know. Thank

1:38

you so much. I appreciate it. Yeah,

1:41

get it while you can. Because

1:43

we're taking our summer break after this.

1:45

We'll be... I know. Aww.

1:50

It's slow news time. LAUGHTER

1:54

I gotta recharge the batteries in my vape. No.

1:56

No. I got... You know... OK, so... But

2:01

we will be back on August

2:03

23rd to resume covering the campaign

2:05

between Trump and somebody.

2:08

You don't... You

2:11

don't know who that was. Well,

2:14

I mean, so much has just

2:16

happened in the weeks that we were on a week ago.

2:21

Next day, Trump got shot. Okay?

2:23

And let me just say right up front, you

2:25

should be as angry about that as if the

2:27

candidate you like got shot. You should. You

2:38

should also be angry that the Secret Service

2:40

allowed some kid with a sniper rifle and

2:42

a rangefinder to get past the metal detectors.

2:44

What? The TSA ones tackled

2:47

me over a bottle of viseen. So... So

2:52

let me... Look, Don. I

2:58

know we've had our little differences over the years, but I must

3:00

say, you know, I was in Minneapolis that day. It happened just

3:02

a few hours before I had to go on stage. The

3:05

first thing I said was, there will be people who find this

3:07

funny... Not me. There

3:10

will be people, and there already have been,

3:13

who made the joke that, oh, it's a shame that it didn't work,

3:15

this assassination issue. Not me. Liberals don't shoot each other. And they

3:17

don't revel in that. And

3:22

they don't wish for it. So,

3:25

that's what I would

3:27

say to Donald Trump. I'm glad you're

3:30

okay, because if you weren't, I couldn't keep making jokes about you. And I

3:32

really want to be doing that. Well,

3:42

here's an interesting

3:44

phenomenon. Trump keeps getting

3:46

attacked by people whose names

3:49

describe him. No. The

3:57

guy in New York, the prosecutor, in

4:00

the Tormy Daniels trials, name

4:02

was Bragg. This

4:07

crazy shooter, his name was Crooks. And

4:20

I hear there's a guy named Lou Fatfuck who's really

4:22

out to get it. But

4:31

no, you see he's wearing the ear bandage because

4:33

he was lost a piece of his ear. And

4:35

the people at the convention, the other Republicans who

4:38

love him so much, they started wearing in

4:43

solidarity the ear band. Not to be

4:45

outdone, Biden supporters are wearing pants with

4:47

a peace name. So,

4:59

Republicans had their convention this week, did you

5:01

watch it? It was all about family and

5:04

trying to humanize Donald Trump. They had a

5:06

moment here after the shooting and so forth.

5:08

So a lot of, even his granddaughter

5:10

spoke, did very well. That's Don Jr.'s

5:12

daughter, Kai. She's at that

5:14

awkward age. Not quite a woman, but too old for

5:17

Matt Gaetz. And

5:25

of course, of

5:28

course the convention is also to introduce

5:30

the Vice President. We found out who

5:32

that was just Saturday. That's J.D. Vance,

5:35

the guy who wrote Hillbilly Elegy. And boy, he

5:38

ain't kidding. He's,

5:46

you see, this guy, I've seen him on

5:48

abortion, he doesn't believe in any exceptions. No

5:50

exceptions for rape and incest. Different from Trump.

5:53

Trump believes there should be exceptions for rape

5:55

and incest. For him. I

6:00

kid, come on, he's fine. But

6:03

I'll give

6:05

it to the Republicans. They had

6:08

a very effective convention. Right up, I

6:10

thought, till the end, last

6:12

night was the finale. Okay, we

6:14

heard from Tucker Carlson, later Fox

6:16

News. Heard from Hulk Hogan.

6:19

This is true. A

6:25

star in the world of professional wrestling. And

6:28

Franklin Graham, a preacher. Can

6:31

you think of a better lineup to introduce the

6:33

concept of get ready for some bullshit? Boy.

6:45

And then Trump gets up there. Fucking

6:48

Trump. I

6:50

mean, Joe Biden has spent the last

6:52

three weeks giving

6:54

Americans a lot of reasons to doubt. And

6:59

Trump gets up there and goes, hold my beer.

7:04

You know, he had this

7:06

golden opportunity. If

7:08

he could just kept it short. If

7:10

he could just told the story of

7:12

his horrible day. That

7:17

he's only going to tell once. I guarantee he'll

7:19

be telling it every day now. But

7:22

he went on for 93 minutes. By the

7:24

end of it, my ears were bleeding. I

7:28

mean. Hunter

7:37

Biden on crack doesn't go on that long.

7:43

Lauren Boberty had time to jerk

7:45

off eight different guys. Now

7:55

that I read this today, the Republican National

7:57

Convention got an average view of shit.

8:00

of 18 million people, which I thought

8:02

was pretty impressive. And then I read

8:04

the CBS show Tracker gets

8:07

19 million. Tracker,

8:13

I have two questions. What

8:15

the fuck is Tracker? And

8:24

would the star of it be interested in accepting

8:26

the Democratic Party's nomination for the presidency of

8:28

the United States? Yeah,

8:35

I mean,

8:37

well, Joe Biden, the week's, this is really the

8:39

worst week he's had in a long time. I

8:41

mean, it just keeps getting worse. Everyone in the

8:43

Democratic Party now is coming forward and

8:46

pretty much saying he should, to Nancy Pelosi,

8:48

Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, all these people saying

8:50

he should step down. And then he got

8:52

COVID. Even

8:55

viruses want him to step down. But he's OK.

9:00

He's OK. He's

9:05

fine. He's doing fine. He has

9:07

very mild symptoms, headache, loss

9:09

of smell and inability to see writing

9:11

on the wall. All right,

9:13

we've got a great show. Larry Lohmauer and Byron Donald

9:15

are here. The first up, he

9:19

was a Democratic presidential candidate in

9:21

2020, who formerly served as candidate

9:23

in the U.S. Navy Reserve for

9:25

mayor Pete Buttigieg is over here. Pete,

9:29

pleasure, sir.

9:32

Thank you for being here. All

9:35

right. All

9:38

right. Pete Buttigieg. Listen,

9:41

first of all, I got to give it up to you, sir.

9:43

You came here today. It's a

9:45

rough week, rough time for Democrats and

9:48

the Biden surrogate. That's why you're here.

9:52

I know a lot of politicians. I've seen it on

9:54

this show many times who would have suddenly got a

9:56

family emergency. But you showed up. Can

10:00

we get serious about Joe Biden? Could

10:03

I get you tonight to join the list of

10:05

people? It's going to be everybody at some point

10:07

who said... No. No. No. Okay.

10:11

He's got balls, this guy. I got to tell you.

10:14

I'm here because I believe in Joe Biden. And

10:17

let me just... Thank you. I

10:25

get it, all right? I didn't come

10:27

here to say he's not 10 years older than

10:29

he was 10 years ago. Or

10:31

deny that sometimes he mixes up names, as

10:33

Donald Trump does. Sometimes said this name when

10:36

he obviously meant that name. But

10:38

the thing about Joe Biden is he's

10:40

really good at being president. And

10:46

you can tell because the

10:48

things we need presidents to do

10:51

are the things that he's best at.

10:53

Like delivering infrastructure and defending

10:56

women's rights and fostering economic growth

10:58

at a level that we haven't

11:00

seen under any president in my

11:02

lifetime. One of two things is going to

11:05

happen in November. We're

11:07

either getting Donald Trump or we're

11:09

getting the Democratic candidate who is Joe Biden.

11:11

And those are radically different futures. And I

11:14

know which one of those two futures I'm

11:16

prepared to live in that I want for

11:18

my children to be growing up in. But

11:23

the argument really isn't about that. I mean, I think

11:25

most Democrats think he did do a good job. The

11:27

argument is about can he win. Nancy

11:29

Pelosi told him this week that

11:32

she does not think he can win. She's

11:34

pretty savvy. What

11:36

do you think? And all these people... When

11:38

I came out here to Sherrod Brown, I mean,

11:41

I said this a week ago. I

11:43

said that once the dam breaks, everybody

11:46

is going to be coming aboard. I

11:48

mean, how can he survive? And now he has COVID.

11:51

He's going to really run for president from a hospital

11:53

bed. He's got

11:55

miles. America needs strong leadership. It's

12:00

just ridiculous, Pete. He's

12:06

got a mild sentence. He wants to be back out

12:08

on the campaign trail in a few days. And

12:10

he's going to campaign for the future that we could

12:12

have. And I guess that's the thing. The

12:15

futures could not be more different

12:17

between Donald Trump's future and

12:19

the future where Joe Biden wants to lead us.

12:21

And Americans already agree with us

12:25

on issue after issue. So look, I know

12:27

that... That's not their big issue. Their

12:29

big issue is that they don't think he's young

12:31

enough to do the job. The more we're talking

12:34

about him... That's not going to get better. The

12:36

more we're talking about him or we're talking about

12:38

Donald Trump, we look past the fact that this

12:40

election isn't about one of these two people. It's

12:43

about all of us. It's about the country. And

12:45

most people in this country want continued

12:48

economic growth. They agree with

12:50

Joe Biden's economic policies. They disagree with Donald

12:52

Trump's agenda of tax cuts for the rich.

12:55

Most people agree with Joe

12:57

Biden on defending a woman's right to

12:59

choose and disagree with Donald Trump's decision

13:01

to terminate the right to choose

13:03

in this country, which is what he did. On

13:06

issue after issue after issue, Americans are going to

13:08

be better off. And our job, I think, certainly

13:10

my job, when I'm in campaign mode

13:12

and not doing my day job, my

13:14

most important message is to draw

13:17

people back to those very different choices that

13:19

we face. Yeah, it's interesting. We

13:21

can't talk about your day job here, can we? No.

13:25

On our side, we weirdly care about things like

13:27

campaign finance law and the Hatch Act. So I'm

13:29

going to be careful to actually behave and do

13:31

that. I love a day job. And the Hatch

13:33

Act says you are, can I say what you

13:35

are? You're the transportation secretary? I'm here as a

13:37

citizen. I know. That's right.

13:40

Sorry. Whoops. Okay. Of

13:43

all the problems

13:45

we have, the fact that... Should

13:49

Joe Biden have fired the Secret Service head?

13:52

I mean, I don't understand that. I'm

13:54

not in on all the details of the

13:57

Homeland Security side. I know there's a really

13:59

serious after-action. report and process and

14:01

a whole lot of scrutiny going on there.

14:03

I think everything that led up

14:05

to that moment, that horrible moment, is under

14:07

a microscope. And I believe that President

14:10

Biden and the administration will do the right thing. But you

14:12

didn't need a microscope to see it. Yeah,

14:14

but you also- The guy was on

14:16

the roof, like not that far away with

14:18

a rifle for a long time. I mean, I don't, I

14:20

don't, I've seen people fired for

14:22

less and it just looks bad.

14:25

It looks like, well, the other guy from the

14:27

other party got shot, we'll look into it if

14:29

we have time. I think it's that when something

14:31

of this gravity happens, you don't just dash off

14:33

a decision. You do a comprehensive process to find

14:35

every single piece of anything that could go wrong.

14:38

And then there's gonna be accountability and there's gonna

14:40

be change. I'm sure of that. Again, I'm not

14:42

in the middle of that, obviously. That's not my

14:44

lane, but I know that's what's gonna happen. Okay.

14:48

So, not to get back to the politics, but if

14:51

we did have an open convention, just

14:53

hypothetically, don't

14:57

you think it would be a tremendous opportunity

14:59

to reset the Democratic Party? And since they're

15:02

so behind in the polls right now, I

15:04

mean, when you look at the Senate races

15:06

in the swing states versus the presidential race,

15:08

I mean, sometimes the point swing is 15

15:10

points. In other words,

15:12

the Democratic candidate for Senate is

15:15

like up by eight and Joe's down

15:17

by seven. That's a huge difference. So,

15:20

you know, we won't get back to what you just said

15:22

or what I was contending, but as just if

15:25

we had an open convention to

15:27

be able to have a candidate who could, again,

15:30

change the dynamic, like who's the young one in

15:32

the race now? What?

15:35

Look, I think

15:38

the convention, a

15:41

convention is an opportunity to lay out different

15:43

visions. And we just came through the Republican

15:45

convention, whatever that was. I

15:47

made myself watch, I

15:50

made myself watch as much of it as I could, especially

15:53

last night when we were promised that

15:55

we were gonna get a different,

15:57

more unifying vision and for a few minutes it looked

15:59

like this. like he was trying. And then, I don't know,

16:01

an hour and a half later I gave up. I

16:04

still want to let them all lose

16:06

context. And

16:08

of course, the other thing you

16:10

get to do at a convention is roll out your vice

16:12

presidential candidate, which in this case was J.D. Vance. Yeah.

16:16

I know him a little bit. What do you think of him? Look,

16:19

we're from the same generation. We're both from the

16:21

Midwest, different parts of the Midwest. Right.

16:23

I know a lot of guys like J.D. Vance. I run

16:25

into a lot of guys like him. Not so much when

16:28

I was growing up in Indiana. Peter

16:30

Thiel is his big backer. Yeah, for sure.

16:32

Okay. And people don't know who that is.

16:35

He started PayPal. He's gay. He's a billionaire.

16:38

I mean, I've had a couple of people who knew we

16:40

were coming on this week say, ask Pete what he thinks

16:42

about Peter Thiel being so in love

16:44

with J.D. Vance, who is against, flatly against

16:47

gay marriage. So I think

16:49

it's a profound contradiction, but maybe it's not that

16:51

complicated. I know there are a lot of folks

16:54

who say, what's going on with some of these

16:56

Silicon Valley folks veering into Trump world with J.D.

16:58

Vance and backing Trump? What are

17:00

they thinking? Silicon Valley is supposed to be, you

17:02

know, they're supposed to care about climate. They're supposed

17:04

to be, you know, pro science and rational and

17:06

libertarians of normally libertarians don't like authoritarians. What's up

17:09

with that? I think it's actually we've made it

17:11

way too complicated. It's super simple. These

17:13

are very rich men who

17:17

have decided to back the Republican Party that

17:19

tends to do good things for

17:21

very rich men. That's

17:26

kind of

17:29

what you're

17:32

getting with J.D., right? So

17:35

I knew a lot of people like him

17:37

when when I got to Harvard. I found a lot of

17:39

people like him who would say whatever they needed to to

17:41

get ahead. And five

17:43

years ago, that seemed like being the

17:45

anti-Trump Republican. So that's what he was.

17:48

Talked about how he was unfit, how he was

17:50

cynical, called him an

17:52

opioid, which is kind of a weird thing to say about

17:55

a person, but definitely a really. But

18:01

I mean, for somebody whose identity is that

18:03

they're connected to Appalachia, which has an opioid

18:05

crisis, that really is the darkest thing you

18:08

could possibly say about Donald Trump.

18:10

At least in public, but behind the scenes apparently he's actually calling him

18:12

Hitler, right? Seriously,

18:15

five years later, the way he gets ahead

18:17

is that he's the greatest guy since sliced

18:19

bread. And I actually watched this exact same process with

18:21

somebody else I got to know in

18:23

my days in the Midwest, which was my

18:25

former governor, Mike Pence, who I

18:28

watched start out as an evangelical Christian

18:30

who cared about rectitude and family values,

18:33

and then get on board with a guy

18:35

who was mixed up with

18:37

a porn star, make excuses for him so

18:40

that he could have power. And then he did. He

18:42

got four glorious years, I guess, as vice

18:44

president of the United States. And

18:47

it ended on the west front of the

18:49

Capitol with Trump supporters proposing

18:51

that he be hanged for using

18:53

the one shred of integrity he

18:55

still had to stand up to an attempt to overthrow

18:57

the government. So I guess maybe

18:59

not as a politician, but as a human being, what I'll say

19:02

is that I hope things work out a little bit better for

19:04

J.D. Vance than they did for me. Okay.

19:14

So

19:17

you wrote a very absorbing book called Trust. Basically

19:20

the thesis is that we do not have a shared reality.

19:22

A lot of people have talked about the same thing. I

19:25

mean, obviously watching the Republican convention, Democrats

19:27

are going to still, and

19:30

Republicans are still saying the same thing. We

19:33

don't. Any ideas

19:35

in your head about how to sort of

19:37

move backward from that cliff that

19:39

we're heading towards of no shared reality and what

19:42

that brings us? Yeah. I mean,

19:44

first of all, take care of the basics, which is kind of

19:46

what Joe Biden's about, right? For all the noise and the things

19:48

that carry the news of the day, he's been focused on stuff

19:50

like getting insulin back down to 35 bucks. He

19:52

did it for seniors. He did it for everybody, for Republicans to get out

19:54

of the way. Stuff like building infrastructure,

19:56

stuff like making sure that we

19:59

have a fair tax code. So things that actually

20:01

speak to 60 or 70 percent of Americans. That's one of

20:03

the things that amazes me. I felt that I was going

20:05

through my head when I was sitting

20:07

at the State of the Union address, and I watched Joe

20:10

Biden name issue after issue and

20:12

proposal after proposal. And even

20:14

though that you could feel the chamber was divided,

20:16

you know, the Democrats were standing up and cheering

20:18

and the Republicans were sitting like this, the country

20:20

was not divided on those issues. 60,

20:22

70 percent agree on those things. So I

20:24

think part of it is focusing on those

20:26

things that are unifying. Look, we are in

20:28

different information realities, for sure, right? One

20:30

of the reasons I'm here is that this is

20:33

one space where you actually see people from radically

20:35

different views at the same table in

20:39

the same conversation, which compels you to

20:41

at least try to be in the

20:43

same reality. It's why I actually love

20:45

local news. Everybody likes to, people often

20:47

say, I think, unflattering things about local

20:50

television. I think it's a great space

20:52

to, one of the last

20:54

spaces, to actually be talking about the same reality,

20:56

maybe just because I cut my teeth as a mayor

20:58

having to explain myself on local news every day. We

21:01

need to find circles of belonging and

21:03

circles of information that are overlapping instead

21:06

of concentric. Well,

21:12

I wish you were the candidate, but

21:18

thank you for coming in. Carry in the water. All right,

21:20

Pete Woodridge. All right, Pete Woodridge. All right, Pete. Pete,

21:23

thank you. Thank you. Pete

21:25

Woodridge. All right, let's read

21:27

our panel. That's

21:35

right. All

21:37

right, he's a producer, actor, comedian, writer, and

21:39

host of the podcast, Larry Wilmar, Black on

21:41

the Air. Larry Wilmar, my friend. How you doing,

21:43

Tom? And

21:47

he's a two-term Republican, congressman from Florida, who

21:49

was one of the featured speakers this week

21:52

at the Republican National Convention. Byron

21:54

Donalds. Byron, I know you have

21:56

an honor to get here, and I

21:58

appreciate it. All

22:00

right, this is my last chance to plug this book They

22:10

did this 837

22:12

people this is probably more now, but this is

22:14

less week on Amazon wrote a review of it

22:17

And then they do something called an AI synthesis

22:21

Here's what AI said about my book I'm

22:24

serious AI reads the 837 reviews

22:26

customers find the book funny and

22:28

insightful. Thank you AI They

22:32

appreciate Bill Morris wid and common-sense observations.

22:34

The book is considered an entertaining read

22:36

and worth memorizing I You

22:47

flatter me and frighten me let me

22:49

tell you stop showing off a really

22:52

okay, so It's

22:54

interesting after the shooting last Saturday

22:56

I got so many texts from people that said

22:58

almost the exact same thing they put the picture

23:00

up there and said this election is over hmm

23:03

and Then Trump spoke

23:05

last night I

23:08

don't know how many people saw it. I mean, I thought

23:10

the convention was going well until then I feel

23:13

like every tragic character has a tragic

23:15

flaw Hamlet could not make

23:17

up his mind Joe

23:20

Biden doesn't know when to quit and

23:23

Donald Trump can't shut the fuck up I

23:32

think I think we have a clear

23:34

race between a man who can't finish his thoughts

23:36

and a man whose thoughts will never fucking Now

23:47

Byron you're not wearing the ear thing in solidarity

23:52

So actually funny story about that

23:54

at the convention. I'm walking to get some food.

23:56

There's a guy on the corner dressed like

23:58

Abe Lincoln He looks at me and

24:01

he goes, hey man, you got to put the white patch

24:03

on that ear. And

24:05

I just looked at him and I said, oh no, we're not doing

24:07

that. I got to eat. I'm

24:09

hungry. Bye bye. We're not

24:12

doing that. But

24:14

you know what I'm saying? I mean, all Trump

24:16

had to do was take the W and

24:19

he just couldn't stop himself. This is, I

24:22

think it reminded people of what they didn't

24:24

like about him the first time. He is

24:26

a man who can't control his appetite, whether

24:28

it's cheating or if you

24:30

flatter him, he does whatever you want. Or

24:33

he just, he had it on the

24:35

teleprompter. It was a short speech. It

24:37

was a perfect moment to pivot from,

24:39

he already had the base. We've known

24:41

him for 10 years now. He's got

24:43

them. He just got shot. This

24:45

was a moment and he started to do it

24:47

to say, look, I'm going to be everybody's president

24:50

because he certainly didn't do

24:52

that in the first term. Okay. New

24:55

guy, a great reason for him to

24:57

be a new guy. Right. And

24:59

he just couldn't do it. He had to

25:01

start riffing about crazy

25:03

Nancy Pelosi. I

25:08

mean, Bill, it was like a mag of fever

25:10

dream for Christ's sake. I

25:15

mean, to

25:17

me, it sounded

25:19

like he was like trying to go to sleep, but his friend

25:21

was there as he had to tell him what happened. And

25:25

then he was there. You

25:30

remember him. I think it was rapping

25:32

Kid Rock. He

25:35

was cool. Wait, wait, wait. I mean, that's

25:37

what it sounded like. It's like, go to sleep. Go to

25:39

sleep for Christmas. A couple of things. A couple of things.

25:44

First, look, the president had an opportunity to

25:46

address the country. Really the world hasn't

25:48

done that since obviously what happened to Saturday.

25:51

He took that opportunity to do that. He also is not

25:53

going to change his policies. His policies are what they

25:55

are. I think what's important in this moment.

25:57

We're not even on the policy yet. It's

26:00

about the policy. It's always about

26:02

the policy. It's always about

26:04

the policies. And it's about

26:06

the country and it's about the people that he's trying to

26:08

serve, which is everybody in the United States of America. But

26:11

here's the things that bother me about him. I

26:14

know no politician is perfect. I get a lot of a lot of

26:16

shit go. But one, he doesn't

26:18

concede elections. That's always going to be a deal

26:20

breaker for me. Does

26:22

not concede elections. And has gotten all

26:24

you guys to pretend that they won the last

26:27

election. Two, he just lies.

26:29

Like he doesn't even care

26:31

or nobody's lying about. I

26:34

have a list just from last night. The

26:37

election was stolen. No it wasn't. Crime is

26:39

up. Crime is down. Worst inflation

26:41

ever. It's been 23. It's three. You

26:44

know, the people coming...

26:48

Illegos have killed hundreds of thousands of

26:50

Americans. A

26:54

hundred and seven percent of new jobs

26:57

went to illegal aliens. I mean, you were in the

26:59

hall. You heard this shit. It

27:01

doesn't bother... It doesn't bother... It

27:05

doesn't bother you that he just... Whatever

27:07

he thinks should be the reality is

27:10

the reality that he then espouses, even though

27:12

you know it's not. What he

27:15

talks about is what Americans are feeling every single day, no

27:17

matter what city in the country you're talking about. So facts

27:19

don't matter. Inflation. Oh no, they do. Inflation. Let's take that

27:21

one for a moment. Yeah, the year over year right now

27:23

is what, 3.4, 3.5 percent? But

27:27

the overarching move of inflation from

27:29

when Joe Biden took office to

27:31

now is up massively over 20 percent. Those prices

27:33

didn't go away, Bill. Then say that. Don't say

27:35

it's the worst ever. That's a lie. Because if

27:38

you're an American under the age of 45 or

27:40

45 younger, like I am, this

27:43

is the worst inflation you've ever seen. I heard

27:45

about inflation from my mom under Jimmy Carter and

27:47

Reagan had to get that under control. I've never

27:49

seen anything like this. It's one of the reasons

27:52

why young voters, young men in particular, are saying,

27:54

you know what? At least when Donald Trump was

27:56

president, I had more money in my pocket and

27:58

I could get more things. because this

28:00

Joe Biden guy, he's not getting it done. Yeah,

28:03

but here's the thing. Donald

28:07

Trump, though, you

28:10

have to understand Donald Trump's DNA. His cells

28:12

need him to lie just like other

28:14

cells need oxygen, you know? So

28:18

to him, it's not lying. It's part of

28:20

who he is. Honestly, I don't think he

28:22

even thinks he's lying. That's just how he

28:24

gets it. That's my point. Right. It's not

28:26

lying. It's just what he feels. There

28:28

was a moment where he said, when

28:31

he was talking about getting shot, and he

28:33

said, I looked down and my hand was covered with

28:35

blood, and there was blood all over the place. And

28:37

then I showed a picture of his hand with no

28:39

blood. I'm not

28:41

diminishing what happened. I'm just saying that

28:43

was so indicative of who he is.

28:46

In his mind, the thing was just

28:48

crazy blood, but it was just

28:50

a little blood here. You've had those conversations

28:52

where you might have gotten into an altercation,

28:54

a shouting match with somebody, but it turned

28:56

into like the fight from Rocky IV. But

28:58

in your mind, when you're definitely dealing with

29:00

that, yes, it's a major situation. A man

29:02

almost lost his life. I'm going to give

29:04

him some editorial movement on the amount of

29:06

blood on his hand. I'm going to give

29:08

him that. Okay. I'm going

29:10

to give him that. You've earned that. Um,

29:15

okay, so, um, J.D.

29:20

Vance, uh, here's

29:22

a quote from him. Many of the most

29:24

unhappy and most miserable and most angry people

29:26

in our media are childless adults. This seems

29:29

to be a big theme of his. He

29:31

also said, we are effectively run in this

29:33

country, be it the Democrats, be it corporate

29:35

oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies

29:41

who are miserable in their own lives.

29:45

He mentions Kamala Harris. I think she has kids, doesn't

29:47

she? Pete Buttigieg. I know he has kids. AOC,

29:50

well, she's early 30s, people of the noise, have kids. The

29:53

entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people

29:55

without children. Okay, I know you're talking about me.

30:00

I mean... I

30:02

mean... I

30:06

find this very offensive. This idea that, like,

30:08

there's only one way to be happy. And

30:11

I know this was trying to be a more

30:13

inclusive convention. Well,

30:16

I mean, let's be honest. This convention, it

30:18

was more like a white trash front

30:21

yard party. You know? I

30:24

mean, it really was. Um...

30:29

I'm watching it. That's all I can think of. My

30:31

favorite was... Nikki Haley,

30:33

who... God bless her. Like, her

30:35

head was completely disagreeing

30:38

with her mouth. Like, it couldn't... It

30:42

was. Like, her mouth is saying, vote for Trump,

30:44

and her head's just going like that the whole time. Her

30:46

head was like, what are you talking about,

30:49

man? Shut the fuck up. What's wrong

30:51

with you? Let me say this. Nikki

30:53

Haley was way more convincing than Pete Buttigieg was over

30:55

there. Really? Oh, yeah.

30:58

Pete already knows the deal. Pete knows...

31:02

Pete knows that Joe Biden can't win.

31:05

Everybody knows that Joe Biden can't win. The

31:07

only people that don't know are Joe Biden and Joe Biden.

31:09

That's a good point. That's because Joe wants Air Force One.

31:12

That's why. Well, I can't argue with

31:14

that. All right, so every time we take a

31:16

little break, we do something called

31:19

future headlines, because people depend on this show to

31:21

get their news. So, absolutely,

31:23

as we showed. So,

31:29

we're going to be off until August 23rd. We

31:31

have to provide you with the headlines, even when

31:33

they're in the future. So, would you like to see the future headlines?

31:35

I'll take it. Future

31:37

headlines. Secret

31:42

Service announces new security policy. Check

31:45

area for shooters. Travis

31:56

Kelsey dumps Taylor Swift for Hawk Toa

31:59

Girl. Absolutely

32:03

predictable.

32:07

Queers for Palestine founder visits

32:09

Palestine, changes mind. Trump

32:22

urges national unity, vows revenge on

32:25

enemies. J.Lo,

32:33

Ben Affleck divorce, start dating again,

32:35

remarry. January

32:44

6th writers measure J.D. Vance's

32:46

neck for noose just in

32:48

pace. Elon Musk begins

32:50

construction on evil lair.

33:05

CDC discovers bird flu epidemic started

33:07

from liqueur windshield challenge. Biden

33:22

back campaigning after forgetting he stepped down

33:24

previously. The first night Amber Rose was there.

34:00

talking straight to camera. I talked to her in the back. She was

34:03

like, I'm nervous. I don't do this. I said,

34:05

well, look, listen, the crowd is already is hyped. They

34:07

already have all the energy. Just let the crowd take

34:09

the speech with you. She just went out there and

34:11

delivered it. People embraced her. They loved it. It was

34:13

awesome. She was great. And she said the party doesn't

34:15

care if you're white, black, straight or gay, which,

34:18

you know, liberals roll their eyes at that. But

34:20

I always think you have to recheck things. Now,

34:23

I mean, look, the history of the

34:25

Republican Party in the last 40 years has there has

34:27

been a lot of racism in it. You would admit

34:29

that, right? I would tell you our party's changed a

34:31

lot. A lot. That's what I'm asking. Yeah. Oh, the

34:33

party's come a long way and it's continuing to go

34:36

even more ways. Look, you had Amber Rosie

34:38

just talked about her. You had the

34:41

mother of the fallen soldier, Mrs. Bream

34:43

out of New York City. Myself, Wesley

34:45

Hunt, John James, Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy.

34:47

I mean, I can go down the

34:49

list. I remember Republican conventions for eight

34:51

years ago, 12 years ago. There

34:53

might have been one or two black people on

34:56

that stage. Our party is growing. It's getting more

34:58

diverse. And when you're in those convention

35:00

halls like I was for five straight days, nobody says,

35:02

oh, that guy's black. Let me take a picture with

35:04

him. They're like, man, that's Byron. I love him. White,

35:07

black, Hispanic doesn't matter. I

35:09

wouldn't say this. Just

35:16

because you add more raisins to the potato

35:18

salad, it doesn't make potato salad any better.

35:29

You know, yeah, we're OK with women, but

35:31

we're going to make it very hostile towards

35:33

women's rights. You know, this whole thing of

35:35

repealing Roe v. Wade and the cynical way,

35:37

which was that was done, shows no respect

35:39

for the autonomy of women over their bodies.

35:41

I'm sorry. That's

35:49

not a party that has changed. That's a party that

35:51

has stuck to its guns for 50 years, which I

35:53

give it credit for, by the way. Not because they

35:55

hate women. It's because they think

35:57

it's murder. expect

36:00

women's ability to make that decision for themselves. That's not true

36:02

at all. That's not true at all. That's not true at

36:04

all. That is not true at all. That is not true

36:07

at all. Trust me, I'm very pro-choice.

36:09

I know, I know. But the thing about

36:11

abortion, we've talked about this before too. The

36:13

sides are actually flipped on this. The

36:16

pro-life side is actually a very liberal

36:18

position, whereas the pro-choice side is a

36:20

very conservative position. I know you're saying

36:22

like, what? The reason

36:24

why it's a very liberal position in pro-life is

36:27

because it wants the government to step in and

36:30

interfere where the agency of this child,

36:32

it doesn't have agencies, the government has

36:34

to step in on its behalf. That

36:36

is a liberal action. Whereas

36:38

pro-choice position is about the liberty of the

36:41

individuals at stake here. The woman's liberty is

36:43

what's at stake. That's what privacy means. That's

36:45

why it was based on the privacy clause,

36:47

because we have liberty in this country and

36:49

the ability to make your own decisions. That's

36:51

what's at stake in that decision, is that

36:53

you're taking that away. Okay, well two things

36:55

real quick. That's a conservative position. Hold

36:58

on a second. Hold on a second. This

37:00

is important, because with respect to abortion,

37:02

with respect to you saying being pro-choice fully

37:05

respects a woman's agency, fully respects a woman's

37:07

choices and her rights. It puts the decision

37:09

in her hands. But you also have that

37:11

unborn child. That child is

37:14

unborn. Viability starts at about 21, 22

37:16

weeks now with modern medicine. Who knows

37:18

where that's going to go. And when

37:20

you talk about repealing Roe v. Wade,

37:22

that's not what happened. A case came

37:24

through the channels of our legal system.

37:26

The Supreme Court looked at that case,

37:28

looked at Roe v. Wade, which even

37:30

Ruth Bader Ginsburg said was a very poorly

37:32

written decision, even though she's very pro-choice. She said it

37:34

was imperfect, but she said it was a lot of

37:36

the land. But at the end of the day, and

37:38

then the Supreme Court came out with a new decision

37:41

and they said this is now in the hands of

37:43

states, actually going back to what it was before 1973.

37:45

I'm sorry, why did they want to do that, Byron?

37:47

Why did they want to mess with it in the

37:49

first place? Every state, every state, because? I

37:51

wonder what they were up to. No,

37:53

no, no, because a legal question. A legal

37:55

question came before the court. And if a

37:57

legal question comes before the court, the court

37:59

has a responsibility to answer that. But the court

38:01

did not say that we're going to out low

38:10

abortions. That's not what they said. That is

38:12

not what they said. Be accurate. Now in

38:15

the Dobbs decision they said that this is

38:17

now going to go to the states. California

38:19

where's this road leading to? I'm sorry roads

38:21

aren't built that lead to nowhere. They go

38:23

to nowhere. We're watching it right now. Where's

38:25

this road leading? What

38:27

is happening right now? It's not leading

38:30

to more autonomy. That's actually that is not

38:32

true. Right now in a post Roe v

38:34

Wade world, there have actually been more abortions

38:36

conducted in the United States

38:42

than before Roe v Wade. So what you're

38:44

saying is not accurate. Number two, what I'm

38:46

saying is accurate. Each state is now deciding

38:48

what abortion regulations are going to be. Federal

38:51

procedures are regulated at the state level, not

38:53

the federal level. Medical licensing for doctors and

38:55

nurses is done at the state level, not

38:58

the federal level. There are some rights every

39:00

state's going to make these decisions. Some rights

39:02

that don't need to be adjudicated by individual

39:04

states. Civil rights was one of those. Civil

39:06

rights is one of those rights as well.

39:08

When you have one of those rights.

39:10

Civil rights is actually a great time.

39:12

I'm glad you talked about it. That

39:14

was federal legislation. And you know why? Because people

39:17

wouldn't do the right thing. No, you had

39:19

a segment of people taking away the liberty

39:21

of another segment of people, namely black people

39:24

in this country. Our liberties were

39:26

being taken away primarily by the Southern

39:28

whites. By taking away by the Southern

39:30

whites. We

39:32

are allowed to have our liberties by God, not by government.

39:35

God gives us liberties. Government

39:37

is the agency that gives us our rights.

39:39

Government secures them. You have local officials in

39:41

Southern states. Local officials in Southern states are

39:43

denying the life,

39:46

liberty and pursuit of happiness of black people

39:48

in America. Because they didn't view

39:53

black people as humans. They viewed them as

39:55

exotic pets. And that's why the

39:57

federal government stepped in with civil rights legislation. You

40:00

agree with my point. Thank you for that. I

40:02

appreciate that. Yes, the federal government had to intervene

40:04

in that. But when you're talking about abortion, you

40:06

have... No, but the federal government had to intervene

40:08

on that. Let me see. When you're talking about

40:10

abortions, in some respects, along the same line of

40:12

civil rights, you're talking about the rights and the

40:14

liberties of the woman who is carrying a child.

40:16

Correct. And abortion is highly personal. And that's why

40:18

this is the most divisive topic in our politics.

40:21

Also, correct. But there is the rights

40:23

of the unborn child. And with... no

40:25

matter how anybody feels, half of

40:28

our country does believe that an unborn child

40:30

has rights. Okay, but here's the rose that

40:32

you're on. And that's why you have... That's

40:34

fine. I'm not going to argue over the

40:36

science of that, because I understand there's something

40:39

to be said about that. But a person

40:41

becomes a person at birth. Okay? Wait,

40:45

wait, hold on. Because, wait

40:47

a second. I'm not

40:49

talking about biology, and I'm not talking about religion,

40:51

because we can have different definitions of when

40:53

you think life begins. Okay? I'm not arguing

40:55

that. But personhood begins at birth. It always

40:57

has. It's... When you see a tombstone, it's

40:59

from the moment they were born to the

41:01

moment they died. It doesn't say the moment

41:03

of conception to the moment they died on

41:05

a tombstone. It doesn't say that. Okay? That's

41:07

why we have always measured personhood.

41:11

Personhood also has a definition with

41:13

the government. Personhood also is defined

41:15

by where, when, and where you

41:17

are born. Citizenship is determined when

41:19

and where you are born. Not when you're

41:22

conceived or where you're conceived. Good God! Do

41:24

you know what the country would be

41:26

like if we determine personhood

41:28

by where people are conceived? First of

41:30

all, Republicans will lose their fucking minds!

41:32

Two good things. Two good things. I'm

41:34

not wrong about it. Two good things.

41:36

I wanted to hear your point. Number

41:38

one, you have to fully acknowledge that

41:40

half of the country disagrees with your

41:43

point. You're talking about life, not personhood.

41:45

But we are a constitutional republic. Based

41:47

on laws. So the laws that are

41:49

created in this nation do reflect the

41:51

will of the people. Based on laws. And

41:53

the people are massively divided on this issue.

41:55

Based on religion and morality. Now

41:57

I'll let you talk. Okay,

42:00

this is why the Supreme Court

42:03

actually letting the states deal with

42:05

this, it took it out of

42:07

the hands of the Supreme Court

42:09

and now you have citizens, you

42:12

have citizens, legislatures, governors, you

42:14

have ballot initiatives in a lot of states

42:16

where now the citizens are taking this matter

42:18

into their own hand. That is the way

42:20

a constitutional republic is supposed to operate. It's

42:23

like when the obvious things, let me just

42:25

say this real quick, when the obvious things

42:27

take committees to do, that's bullshit, okay? What

42:30

do you mean to say committees to do? No, no, no. What

42:32

are you talking about? When you have something that

42:34

is rightly decided, abortion, I am keeping track. Can

42:37

I talk? I'll say this last thing though. I don't want

42:39

to. I don't want to. I

42:41

don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want

42:43

to. I don't want to. I don't

42:45

want to. I don't want to. I don't

42:47

want to. Sorry. We got to have a little

42:49

something. It's all right, brother. See, here's the thing.

42:51

It's all right. I'm real. Come on, we'll take

42:53

your shit, man. It's real time. It's real time

42:55

with you. No, no, no, no. I'm

42:58

sorry. I'm

43:01

enjoying it. But I

43:03

think we've gone around the mulberry bush on that. Well,

43:06

the last thing I'll say. And it's a good example

43:08

of something that people will never agree on and we

43:10

still have to be able to be civil. And I

43:12

thought you guys were. Of course. Yeah.

43:15

I am mad at him. But

43:17

I got to say, back

43:21

to the thing about your party. I

43:23

noticed Mrs. Vance. She's

43:25

of Indian heritage. Yes. Okay,

43:27

so that's a person of color. Yes. And

43:29

I think there were times where she didn't look too happy to

43:31

be there, but they all looked happy

43:33

to have her. Of course. Well, you say,

43:35

of course. In all fairness, Melania didn't look happy to

43:37

be there. In

43:40

all fairness. In all fairness. Really? Listen,

43:42

man, for being fair. I disagree. Oh,

43:44

trust me. Oh, she's happy. I disagree. She

43:46

was happy. She was very lucky. I thought

43:48

she was in her element there. It was

43:50

dicey at first. It was dicey at first.

43:52

Really? It seemed that way. She's

43:55

a very private person. She's a very private person.

43:57

Yes. I thought she looked to me like she was in

43:59

her element. She was very happy to be

44:01

getting the spotlight. She was beaming on the stage.

44:04

Yeah, on the stage she looked great. Where

44:06

else were you talking about? Well, in the box when she first

44:08

walked up there, it was just a little awkward trouble. Well, then

44:10

she had to be with him. You know what? You

44:12

know what's awkward?

44:15

I'm just talking stagecraft.

44:18

The stagecraft that was really awkward was when Joe Biden had told

44:20

Joe, you did such a

44:23

good job, Joe. You answered all

44:25

the questions. That's backstage for him.

44:27

That's backstage for him. Thank you.

44:30

I agree. Yes.

44:32

You drink? All right. That

44:34

was very entertaining. Thank you, guys. I

44:36

was on vacation. It's time for new rules, everybody. New rules.

44:38

All right. Okay,

44:46

new rules. Since they just unveiled eight new official

44:48

emojis, someone has to tell me

44:50

what the purple splooge one means. I

44:57

have a dirty mind, but I can't help thinking it came

44:59

out of this. You

45:08

know, people who make up reasons to hate J.K. Rowling

45:11

have to get the wand out of their ass. They

45:19

currently want her canceled because she once

45:21

called Lolita a great and tragic love

45:23

story. That doesn't mean she supports pedophilia.

45:25

It's a novel. That

45:28

means it's made up. What

45:37

kind of embezzles think you can live inside a

45:39

book? New

45:47

rule. Now that polls show that the

45:50

most anti-Trump voters are single women and

45:53

most pro-Trump voters are divorced

45:55

dads. Someone

46:04

must start a dating app that connects

46:06

the two groups called HateFucker. Where

46:16

women meet men whose only topic of conversation

46:18

is the crazy bitch who's making his kids

46:20

hate him. Ladies

46:24

want to spend two weekends a month in a

46:27

semi-furnished studio apartment with a damaged man and an

46:29

eight-year-old named Olivia who hates you? Well,

46:33

we'll make that dream come true. And

46:37

check out our other side, Axe to Grindr. You

46:47

will know that not one but two

46:49

women who didn't know they were pregnant

46:51

recently gave birth in restaurant bathrooms. Congress

46:56

must pass the oblivious, helpless

46:59

female unexpected contractions, also

47:02

known as, oh fuck. Don't

47:12

just do it for unsuspecting mothers, do it

47:14

for Taco Bell employees. They

47:18

already have enough of a mask to clean up in the bathroom.

47:28

Someone must tell researchers who are

47:30

using AI to develop a translator

47:32

for dogs, there are better

47:34

ways to use AI. Dogs

47:38

only say three things. I'm hungry, I'm

47:40

scared, and fuck Kristy Nol. I

47:51

guess you could use it on Biden's dog but

47:53

he's already been run out of the White House

47:55

because everyone hates him. And so has the dog.

48:05

And finally, New Rule, there's nothing on earth,

48:07

not even an assassination attempt that can't

48:09

be made just a little worse by

48:11

adding religion. Since

48:14

the bullet that was meant for Donald

48:16

Trump missed him last Saturday, Republicans have

48:18

been indulging in an orgy of magical

48:20

thinking, saying things

48:22

like, Trump wears the armor of God.

48:27

Ring star Jake Paul tweeted about the

48:29

miracle at Butler Farm showgrounds, when you

48:31

try and kill God's angels and saviors

48:33

of the world, it just makes them

48:35

bigger. Which sounds like

48:37

something a guy who gets hit in the head for a

48:40

living would say. The

48:49

internet quickly filled up with

48:51

images of angels and Jesus

48:53

protecting Trump, like this one

48:55

from Congresswoman Maria Salazar. Steve

48:59

Scalise said, yesterday there were miracles and I

49:01

think the hand of God was there too.

49:04

Steve was also shot, but God was having an

49:06

off day. That

49:16

bullet missed his ear and went into his spleen. And

49:20

of course it was inevitable that someone named

49:22

Kevin would tweet this

49:24

video of a flag from the rally that

49:26

got twisted up in a wire and

49:29

said, it looks like an angel. Look,

49:32

it's an angel and it's wearing a flag.

49:37

Just like Sarah Palin used to do. My

49:50

point is that Donald Trump, even

49:53

if you like him, is powerful

49:55

enough as a past president, a likely

49:57

future president, and to be perfectly frank.

Rate

Join Podchaser to...

  • Rate podcasts and episodes
  • Follow podcasts and creators
  • Create podcast and episode lists
  • & much more

Episode Tags

Do you host or manage this podcast?
Claim and edit this page to your liking.
,

Unlock more with Podchaser Pro

  • Audience Insights
  • Contact Information
  • Demographics
  • Charts
  • Sponsor History
  • and More!
Pro Features