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0:57

You're a religious person. Do you want to have a rebuttal

0:59

to what I just said on the editorial? I may have

1:01

taken a shot or two at religion. Two

1:04

things. First, you

1:07

don't have to believe in God to see God's

1:09

miracle in your life from a believer. Whether

1:12

you're an atheist, no matter what you believe

1:14

in, whether I even like you or not,

1:16

I can recognize the fact that something happened

1:19

that staged you away from death

1:21

or pain or grave circumstance. I

1:23

equate it to the hand of

1:25

God moved on your life. That's the first thing. Second

1:27

thing, you kind of made it sound like Donald Trump

1:29

is Thanos, man. Like, nobody's trying

1:31

to make him into like a demi-god. He

1:33

doesn't have the magical gauntlet. But you do

1:35

got to recognize the fact that literally,

1:38

and I talked to him about it, the way

1:40

he turned his head at the podium, which he typically

1:42

will do, it was this much. And

1:45

you have to acknowledge that it's not just luck.

1:48

I do believe millions of Americans believe God's hand

1:50

is on his hand. And

1:52

that's the difference between how we see it.

1:55

But, okay, but we just see that differently.

1:57

Some people see, you know, there's this order

1:59

and everything. and some people see randomness. What

2:02

about the guy behind him who got shot? Because,

2:04

I mean, I know, but like

2:06

you say God, I mean, God's not

2:08

happy with that guy. I

2:10

mean, you know, I mean, no, but I mean, it's like,

2:13

how do you justify that? Why did

2:15

God let, I mean. It's

2:17

like, whew, good job Jesus. Wait,

2:20

Jesus? No, they were pooped. Oh.

2:24

They weren't just, they were, no,

2:26

nevermind, nevermind. Maybe I don't.

2:29

I mean, what is God's end to that? Shit

2:32

happens, I can't be everywhere. It's

2:36

just, okay. That's,

2:39

that's, that's, that's like

2:41

the abortion thing. You guys,

2:43

that wonderful discussion, very entertaining. And by the

2:45

way, I think that's very healthy to

2:48

see that. Don't, what? The

2:50

only thing I'll add to that conversation is, that's

2:53

the conversation you have to have about

2:55

abortion. Right. And you can't shy away

2:57

from it, just by hiding behind your party or hiding

2:59

behind your labels, if we're gonna figure out how is

3:01

the country and as a people we're gonna move forward.

3:03

Right, and I mean, I. I agree with that. I

3:05

just. I agree with that. I just. I

3:07

agree with that. I just. I agree with

3:10

that. I agree with that. I agree with that.

3:12

Is the Trump shooter who has been described as

3:14

a quiet, lonely kid who was bullied in school

3:16

an example of how boys in America are in

3:18

crisis? Yeah, I think

3:21

there, I think, you know, there's been many books about

3:23

it, Men in Crisis. And if you look

3:25

at the statistics, I mean, there's a lot

3:27

of information about girls too, that

3:30

would lead one to believe that young people are in

3:32

crisis no matter what their gender. But

3:34

boys, especially in this day and age,

3:36

I think, are

3:39

living through something, I don't think boys ever lived through before.

3:41

First of all, we live in a kind of an information

3:43

age. What has

3:45

been the calling card of men for

3:47

years, Braun, is

3:50

not valued anymore as much. I mean, there's

3:52

this controversy about the Secret

3:54

Service people who were guarding Trump because some

3:56

people say it shouldn't have been women because

3:59

they were a foot short. than him and

4:01

so that's not the best if you're trying to block

4:03

a bullet from getting to the president and

4:06

kids like that I'm not saying he did this

4:08

for this reason but they see like wow even

4:11

the jobs we used to be better at like

4:13

being taller we

4:18

can't even get those jobs anymore

4:20

I mean yeah

4:22

I think there's a loneliness epidemic

4:25

happening now and you've talked about this

4:27

many times of social media being kind

4:29

of at the heart of it yes

4:31

you know one

4:33

of the things one of the benefits of religion I think

4:35

is that at least people are getting out of the house

4:38

coming together in a community you know and you

4:40

know sharing something together and you know people

4:42

can meet there and that kind of thing

4:44

you know when people are isolated social

4:47

media and also the pornification of the culture

4:49

too you know where guys don't have to

4:51

try as hard to have sex or they

4:53

can have sex with their phone now basically

4:55

you know but it's it's

4:58

true honestly but when

5:00

you have to work to impress a girl

5:02

or you know put some nice clothes on

5:04

to go out even just to a bar

5:06

you know you're being social there's there's value

5:08

to being a social animal that's how that's

5:10

how we've lived for all these thousands of

5:12

years by being social creatures you know I

5:14

agree with you young boys really

5:16

the last party two decades in America we

5:19

got a real problem masculinity is important

5:21

it's important for not just culturally reasons

5:24

it's important for your development development from

5:26

a boy to a man to realize

5:28

what's important to understand that you have

5:30

a responsibility to go out there and

5:33

and and gather and work hard and earn and

5:35

you got to you know have that grit that

5:37

toughness to be a leader to be a husband

5:39

to be a father whether that's a decision you

5:42

choose to make your own personal life but those

5:44

those traits are important for masculinity and for men

5:46

to take them away really hurts

5:48

not just men it hurts women as well I

5:57

don't think it's fair to put the shooter

5:59

in this particular category category because that thing

6:01

has shown up many times over the past.

6:03

Remember, Hinkley went and impressed Jodie Foster, you

6:05

know. If

6:08

you look at Lee Harvey Oswald, it's a lot

6:10

of the same profile of this guy, you know,

6:12

his personal profile, people that have done these types

6:14

of acts over the years. I don't think it's

6:16

all that. I think Lee Harvey Oswald was political.

6:18

I mean, he was in Russia. We don't know

6:20

which side it was, though, either. Well, yes, I

6:22

mean, there's a little murky. I mean, he did

6:24

purposely go to Russia. He married a Russian woman.

6:26

Right. He was involved with the Communist Party. I

6:29

mean, you know, we

6:31

don't know. But this kid, I

6:33

mean, all they know is that

6:35

he was looking at stuff about Biden as well as

6:38

Trump. I think he would have shot whoever showed up

6:40

that day. Yeah, it's like

6:42

the kid who shot the people

6:44

in the movie theater, you

6:46

know, Columbine and some of these other things, you

6:48

know, some of these profiles because but

6:51

yeah, it's not a big disagreement. I'm just pointing out

6:53

some of these profiles. All right.

6:55

What do you think one of

6:57

your thoughts panel on NBC

6:59

pulling Morning Joe? Oh, yeah,

7:01

from the air on. Thank

7:04

God. No, I

7:06

thought we were in agreement now. I thought we were like, why?

7:08

I thought I thought we came together

7:10

on that point. That's what I thought. Why? We don't like

7:12

morning. Well, I don't know. People don't know what I mean,

7:14

I was shocked at this story

7:17

to people don't know what this is. Morning

7:19

Joe. This shooting was on Saturday. They pulled

7:21

the show off the air Monday did

7:23

not air it because they were afraid that

7:26

someone on the show would

7:28

say something untoward. I have they not

7:30

watched the show for the past eight

7:32

years. What

7:35

are they saying on that show? What do they say

7:37

about Trump? Oh, about Trump,

7:39

but yeah, they say everything that you

7:42

can't trust your journalists. Yeah, it doesn't

7:44

make sense. I mean, this would

7:46

be like if Walter Cronkite the day the Kennedy

7:48

assassin, the flash from Dallas, I

7:50

shouldn't really say anything. Something

7:55

happened there. I'll hear. I mean, that

7:57

you can't try. How could the people

7:59

trust in? these journalists if

8:01

the Network itself

8:03

can't trust them to go on the air and

8:05

not fuck it up. Well also I

8:14

mean I made jokes about it, but it really doesn't

8:16

make sense. It's not like morning Joe is more Partisan

8:18

than the late night MSNBC, you know, they're that's

8:21

just as partisan in terms of where their point

8:23

of view where they're coming from So I don't

8:25

know why they why they wouldn't trust that and

8:27

yet they can have no the show's on for

8:30

me in the middle Of the night, right? So

8:32

I'm not gonna say I see it a lot

8:36

It's not like six in the morning. I'm barely

8:38

getting to sleep What

8:42

I'm a comedian this is the life we live okay But

8:46

but Joe was a cut like you a

8:48

congressman from Florida a Republican congressman from Florida

8:50

I don't think he's a crazy person. I

8:52

think he's a smart guy. I like him.

8:54

He's been on this show I've been on

8:56

his show. I'd like to hear what he

8:58

has to say That

9:07

far left in your view, you know, but even

9:09

if he had anti-Trump though, no, but even if

9:11

he has You know, he's not

9:13

he's not some crazy person that you suddenly realize

9:15

who's this crazy person we have on TV Well,

9:18

you're the one that put him on why Just

9:22

realizing this person shouldn't be in television NBC

9:25

can't trust the show going on. That's because they

9:27

already know that the show has a very strong

9:29

anti-Trump viewpoint So maybe they said you know what

9:32

we can't take a chance. I don't want to

9:34

speak for him I don't know. That's exactly what

9:36

it sounds like. I just think it's ridiculous. But

9:38

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