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Sissies, we know colleges are home
0:02
to some of America's brightest minds.
0:04
So why do the most absurd
0:06
things happen there? Oh, it's always
0:09
the smart ones who get freaky.
0:11
Especially college men with their malleable
0:13
minds and their rigid... Poodle! Fine!
0:15
Ooh, the times we had in
0:17
the Ken lab. They were like
0:19
new mild test tubes in my
0:21
hands. Gross. You know I once
0:24
convinced a budding nuclear physicist. They
0:26
should do some experiments on me.
0:28
Leave the rats alone. I want
0:30
to be radioactive! Poodle, no one
0:32
cares about you being a radioactive
0:34
lab rat. Hey, that's what they
0:37
called me in college. There goes
0:39
radioactive lab rat. Hey boys, where's
0:41
the skin of box? Okay, but
0:43
we are actually here to share
0:45
a new weekly podcast titled Campus
0:47
Files, where they dive into some
0:49
of the wildest scandals that have
0:52
taken place across American colleges and
0:54
universities. Yes, because few things are
0:56
crazier than college, believe me. From
0:58
rigged admissions to sports scandals to
1:00
Greek life drama, oh, Greek life.
1:02
Focus! Campus Files shares the stories
1:05
you won't hear on the campus
1:07
tours. Check out his preview and
1:09
be sure to listen to and
1:11
follow Campus Files, an Odyssey original
1:13
podcast, available now wherever you get
1:15
your podcast. So I am from
1:18
Alabama and went to University of
1:20
Alabama from 2010 to 2014. This
1:22
is Abby Crane. She's a third
1:24
generation University of Alabama student. Really
1:26
not a whole lot went into
1:28
choosing my school. My dad went
1:30
to Alabama. My dad went to
1:33
Alabama. My dad went to Alabama.
1:35
and my grandfather on my mom's
1:37
side went to Alabama. Abby grew
1:39
up watching Alabama football, which has
1:41
a nearly religious following. Ask anyone
1:43
at Alabama, and they'll tell you
1:46
that football is one of the
1:48
two dominant forces on campus, the
1:50
other being Greek life. Alabama actually
1:52
has the largest Greek system of
1:54
any university in the country, with
1:56
over 12,000 members. To put that
1:58
in perspective, Alabama has more Greek
2:01
members than Notre Dame has students.
2:03
I want to say it's like
2:05
25 to 30% of the total
2:07
student population, which honestly is less than
2:09
you would imagine, but it's just
2:11
so visible. The sorority houses are
2:14
right across the street from the
2:16
stadium. The fraternity houses are the
2:18
first thing you see when you
2:20
drive into Tuscaloosa on campus. They're
2:22
these huge. antebellum-esque houses, like
2:24
the visibility of them kind
2:27
of shows the weight we
2:29
put into it. The fraternity
2:31
and sorority houses look more
2:33
like mansions. Many of them
2:35
have Greek columns, grand staircases,
2:37
and crystal chandeliers. They cost
2:39
millions of dollars to build
2:42
and maintain. It's a literal
2:44
manifestation of the worth we
2:46
put into Greek life. Like
2:48
the social currency of Greek
2:50
life was a really big
2:52
deal. And I remember, as a freshman,
2:54
they'd be like, are you in a
2:57
sorority? What sorority are you in? Like,
2:59
that's immediately what they ask you in.
3:01
Like, there's an assessment someone can make
3:03
from what sorority you're a part of.
3:05
The competition to get into one of
3:08
these sororities is intense. Sorority
3:10
recruitment, also known as rush,
3:12
starts before freshman year even
3:14
begins. I was a senior in
3:17
high school and was actually going
3:19
to these things called pre-rush parties.
3:21
where sororities will invite you to
3:23
these group parties in your hometown.
3:25
They'll memorize names before these parties.
3:28
They'll have a list of attributes
3:30
being like, she was homecoming queen.
3:32
She was a national merit scholars.
3:34
So they do know a good
3:37
bit about like who you are
3:39
if you're coveted by the
3:41
sororities. The recruitment process
3:43
officially begins in early August, right
3:45
at the start of the school
3:48
year. Early August in Alabama
3:50
is the hottest of hot.
3:52
It's like 90% humidity. No
3:54
amount of hair spray can
3:57
tame the frizz. You're dripping
3:59
sweat. last for nine days,
4:01
broken up into several rounds.
4:03
During the first round of
4:05
rush, freshmen visit the sorority
4:08
houses where they're greeted by
4:10
sorority members chanting in the
4:12
doorway. I remember showing up
4:14
for my first house. Everyone
4:16
stood in front of the
4:18
doors, the doors flew open,
4:20
and they started seeing a
4:22
song, like yelling at us
4:24
with these huge smiles and
4:26
this huge hair and the
4:28
head movements and the hand
4:30
movements. Everything was so coordinated
4:33
and exaggerated and girly. Freshman
4:35
are pulled into a flurry
4:37
of conversation with sorority members.
4:39
Lots and lots of small
4:41
talk. You're carried around through
4:43
each house having these conversations
4:45
and then you're filed out
4:47
one by one and they
4:49
say your name as you
4:51
leave. They say goodbye Abby,
4:53
goodbye Marco, whatever. Yeah, so
4:55
you do that like eight
4:58
times a day. It's exhausting,
5:00
but you can't let it
5:02
show because it's all about
5:04
making a good impression. This
5:06
process is so stressful for
5:08
some freshmen that they hire
5:10
consultants. What is a sorority
5:12
consultant, you ask? Here's one
5:14
of them describing her role.
5:16
I help them prepare for
5:18
what they're going to be
5:20
wearing for every single round,
5:22
you know, just styling, like
5:25
accessories, hair, makeup, nails, all
5:27
that kind of good stuff.
5:29
And then I also help
5:31
them with conversation techniques. And
5:33
you know, it's a big
5:35
deal picking up the clothes.
5:37
And like southern style... is
5:39
canonically different than the rest
5:41
of the world. Big poofy
5:43
sleeves, big frills, bright colors,
5:45
over exaggerated silhouettes. You know,
5:47
they're made for TV. They're
5:50
made for social media. It's
5:52
not hard to say. why
5:54
sorority recruitment at Alabama regularly
5:56
captures national attention. There's even
5:58
an entire documentary about it
6:00
called Bama Rush. When people
6:02
are earnest and serious about
6:04
something that you know nothing
6:06
about, it's fun to watch
6:08
and there's drama. Girls are
6:10
crying, not everyone gets what
6:12
they want, there's winners and
6:15
losers, and I think all
6:17
of that makes a perfect.
6:19
kind of reality show of
6:21
rush. Every year videos from
6:23
Alabama rush invariably go viral
6:25
on Tiktok. Rise and Shine,
6:27
today's Saturday, the first day
6:29
of rush. This is my
6:31
outfit for the South. So
6:33
today is the first round
6:35
of like us talking to
6:37
girls. So like today is
6:39
like the real deal which
6:42
is crazy. You've watched any
6:44
of these clips. You might
6:46
have noticed a striking trend.
6:48
In each of the thousands
6:50
of videos, nearly every single
6:52
woman is white. To be
6:54
fair, rush videos from schools
6:56
across the country are also
6:58
predominantly white. But Alabama's numbers
7:00
stand out. When Abby was
7:02
rushing in 2010, black women
7:04
were still essentially barred from
7:07
the 16 traditional Greek letter
7:09
organizations. In fact, in the
7:11
more than a hundred years
7:13
that sororities had existed at
7:15
Alabama, only one identifiably black
7:17
woman had ever been accepted.
7:19
The only other woman was
7:21
half black woman was half
7:23
black. The only other woman
7:25
was half black But her
7:27
ethnicity wasn't known until after
7:29
she was admitted. I'm pretty
7:31
sure I remember noticing it
7:34
was an all-white process, but
7:36
I had never learned to
7:38
question that yet. I went
7:40
to school at a predominantly
7:42
white high school in a
7:44
pretty segregated city, so that
7:46
was not something I was
7:48
paying attention to. That changed
7:50
after Abby joined the student
7:52
paper her freshman year. We
7:54
had a pretty diverse... group,
7:56
our editor-in-chief was black and
7:59
Once she started paying attention,
8:01
people were writing about disparities
8:03
in the South, that, you
8:05
know, as a white girl,
8:07
I hadn't been paying attention
8:09
to until it was kind
8:11
of in my face. Once
8:13
she started paying attention, it
8:15
was hard to miss. Throughout
8:17
Abby's freshman, sophomore, and junior
8:19
years, all 16 sororities remained
8:21
entirely segregated. But then, at
8:24
the start of her senior
8:26
year, Whippers began circulating. That
8:28
change might finally be on
8:30
the horizon. Cisies, we know
8:32
colleges are home to some
8:34
of America's brightest minds. So
8:36
why do the most absurd
8:38
things happen there? Oh, it's
8:40
always the smart ones who
8:42
get freaky. Especially college men
8:44
with their malleable minds and
8:46
their rigid... Mine! Mine! Oh,
8:48
the times we had in
8:51
the Ken lab. They were
8:53
like new mild test tubes
8:55
in my hands. Gross. You
8:57
know, I once convinced a
8:59
budding nuclear physicist that he
9:01
should do some experiments on
9:03
me. Leave the rats alone.
9:05
I want to be radioactive.
9:07
Poodle. No one cares about
9:09
you being a radioactive lab
9:11
rat. Hey, boys, where's the
9:13
skin of box? Okay, but
9:16
we are actually here to
9:18
share a new weekly podcast
9:20
titled Campus Files, where they
9:22
dive into some of the
9:24
wildest scandals that have taken
9:26
place across American colleges and
9:28
universities. Yes, because few things
9:30
are crazier than college, believe
9:32
me. From rigged admissions to
9:34
sports scandals to Greek life
9:36
drama, oh, Greek life. Focus!
9:38
Campus Files shares the stories
9:41
you won't hear on the
9:43
campus tours. Check out his
9:45
preview and be sure to
9:47
listen to and follow Campus
9:49
Files, an Odyssey original podcast,
9:51
available now wherever you get
9:53
your podcast. So I am
9:55
from Alabama and went to
9:57
University of Alabama. from 2010
9:59
to 2014. This is Abby
10:01
Crane. She's a third generation
10:03
university of Alabama student. Really
10:05
not a whole lot went
10:08
into choosing my school. My
10:10
dad went to Alabama and
10:12
my grandfather on my mom's
10:14
side went to Alabama. Abby
10:16
grew up watching Alabama football,
10:18
which has a nearly religious
10:20
following. Ask anyone at Alabama
10:22
and they'll tell you that
10:24
football is one of the
10:26
two dominant forces on campus,
10:28
the other being Greek life.
10:30
Alabama actually has the largest
10:33
Greek system of any university
10:35
in the country, with over
10:37
12,000 members. To put that
10:39
in perspective, Alabama has more
10:41
Greek members than Notre Dame
10:43
has students. I want to
10:45
say it's like 25 to
10:47
30% of the total student
10:49
population, which... Honestly is less
10:51
than you would imagine, but
10:53
it's just so visible. The
10:55
sorority houses are right across
10:57
the street from the stadium.
11:00
The fraternity houses are the
11:02
first thing you see when
11:04
you drive into Tuscaloosa on
11:06
campus. They're these huge antebellum-esque
11:08
houses, like the visibility of
11:10
them kind of shows the
11:12
weightly put into it. The
11:14
fraternity and sorority houses look
11:16
more like mansions. Many of
11:18
them have Greek columns, grand
11:20
staircases, and crystal chandeliers. They
11:22
cost millions of dollars to
11:25
build and maintain. It's a
11:27
literal manifestation of the worth
11:29
we put into Greek life.
11:31
Like the social currency of
11:33
Greek life was a really
11:35
big deal. And I remember
11:37
as a freshman, they'd be
11:39
like, are you in a
11:41
sorority? What sorority are you
11:43
in? Like that's immediately what
11:45
they ask you in. Like
11:47
there's an assessment someone can
11:50
make from which sorority you're
11:52
a part of. The competition
11:54
to get into one of
11:56
these sororities is intense. Sorority
11:58
recruitment, also known as rush,
12:00
starts before freshman year even
12:02
begins. I was a senior
12:04
in high school and was
12:06
actually going to these things
12:08
called pre-rush parties where sororities
12:10
will invite you to these
12:12
group parties in your hometown.
12:14
They'll memorize names before these
12:17
parties. They'll have a list
12:19
of attributes being like, she
12:21
was homecoming queen. She was
12:23
a national merit scholars. So
12:25
they do know a good
12:27
bit about like who you
12:29
are if you're coveted by
12:31
the sororities. Early August in
12:33
Alabama is the hottest of
12:35
hot. It's like 90% humidity.
12:37
No amount of hair spray
12:39
can tame the frizz. You're
12:42
dripping sweat. Rush lasts for
12:44
nine days, broken up into
12:46
several rounds. During the first
12:48
round of rush, freshmen visit
12:50
the sorority houses where they're
12:52
greeted by sorority members chanting
12:54
in the doorway. I
13:00
remember showing up for my
13:02
first house. Everyone stood in
13:04
front of the doors. The
13:06
doors flew open and they
13:08
started seeing the song, like
13:10
yelling at us with these
13:12
huge smiles and this huge
13:15
hair and the head movements
13:17
and the hand movements. Everything
13:19
was so coordinated and exaggerated
13:21
and girly. Freshman are pulled
13:23
into a flurry of conversation
13:25
with sorority members. Lots and
13:27
lots of small talk. You're
13:29
carried around through each house
13:31
having these conversations and then
13:33
you're filed out one by
13:35
one and they say your
13:37
name as you leave. They
13:40
say goodbye Abby, goodbye Marco,
13:42
whatever. Yeah, so you do
13:44
that like eight times a
13:46
day. It's exhausting, but you
13:48
can't let it show because
13:50
it's all about making a
13:52
good impression. This process is
13:54
so stressful for some freshmen.
13:56
that they hire consultants. What
13:58
is a sorority consultant, you
14:00
ask? Here's one of them
14:03
describing her role. I help
14:05
them prepare for what they're
14:07
going to be wearing for
14:09
every single round, you know,
14:11
just styling, like accessories, hair,
14:13
makeup, nails, all that kind
14:15
of good stuff. And then
14:17
I also help them a
14:19
conversation techniques. And, you know,
14:21
it's a big deal picking
14:23
up the clothes. And like
14:25
southern style is canonically different
14:28
than the rest of the
14:30
world. big poofy sleeves, big
14:32
frills, bright colors, over exaggerated
14:34
silhouettes. You know, they're made
14:36
for TV, they're made for
14:38
social media. It's not hard
14:40
to see why sorority recruitment
14:42
at Alabama regularly captures national
14:44
attention. There's even an entire
14:46
documentary about it, called Bama
14:48
Rush. When people are earnest
14:51
and serious about something that
14:53
you know nothing about, it's
14:55
fun to watch. And there's
14:57
drama. Girls are crying, not
14:59
everyone gets what they want,
15:01
there's winners and losers, and
15:03
I think all of that
15:05
makes a perfect kind of
15:07
reality show of Rush. Every
15:09
year, videos from Alabama Rush
15:11
invariably go viral on Tik
15:13
Talk. Rise and Shine, today's
15:16
Saturday, the first day of
15:18
Rush. This is my outfit
15:20
for really cute today is
15:22
the first round of like
15:24
us talking to girls. So
15:26
like today is like the
15:28
real deal, which is crazy.
15:30
If you've watched any of
15:32
these clips, you might have
15:34
noticed a striking trend. In
15:36
each of the thousands of
15:39
videos, nearly every single woman
15:41
is white. To be fair,
15:43
rush videos from schools across
15:45
the country are also predominantly
15:47
white. But Alabama's numbers stand
15:49
out. When Abby was rushing
15:51
in 2010, Black women were
15:53
still essentially barred from the
15:55
16 traditional Greek letter organizations.
15:57
In fact, in the more
15:59
than a hundred years that
16:01
sororities had existed, at Alabama,
16:04
only one identifiable black woman
16:06
had ever been accepted. The
16:08
only other woman was half
16:10
black, but her ethnicity wasn't
16:12
known until after she was
16:14
admitted. I'm pretty sure I
16:16
remember noticing it was an
16:18
all-white process, but I had
16:20
never learned to question that
16:22
yet. I went to school
16:24
at a predominantly white high
16:27
school in a pretty segregated
16:29
city, so that was not
16:31
something I was paying attention
16:33
to. That changed after Abby
16:35
joined the student paper her
16:37
freshman year We had a
16:39
pretty diverse group our editor-in-chief
16:41
was black and You know
16:43
people were writing about race
16:45
people were writing about Disparities
16:47
in the South that you
16:49
know as a white girl
16:52
I hadn't been paying attention
16:54
to until it was kind
16:56
of in my face Once
16:58
she started paying attention it
17:00
was hard to miss Throughout
17:02
Abby's freshman, sophomore, and junior
17:04
years, all 16 sororities remained
17:06
entirely segregated. But then, at
17:08
the start of her senior
17:10
year, whispers began circulating, that
17:12
change might finally be on
17:15
the horizon.
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