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is a

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rooster teeth production

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while exploring nearby woods a

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a group of teenage, boys in the quiet town

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of worcester, england, stumbled upon a

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a gruesome scene, the skeleton

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of an unknown woman stuffed into

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a tree this woman became the talk

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of the town as investigators failed to identify

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who she was today we begin

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our themed month with week one of

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unsettling forced mysteries

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as we attempt to answer the chilling question who

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put villa in the whitlow this

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is world war

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welcome back has force members

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to read web i'm your host harper collins with

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me is alfredo di as this the show all

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about unsolved mysteries true crime the

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unsolved in general crypt ids

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aliens paranormal activity all of

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good stuff credo the

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hope your buckled and because we have a bit of a theme

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month common in this more yeah

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today you know we talked about the witch elm

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will get all into that but

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i figured this is almost a test

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run for october we're were

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to to have our own like big theme months i

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tried cool for halloween creepy

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woods, take

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the

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normal mundane things of life and make

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them eerie was an unsettling

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what are scary without being scared?

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oh as you get legit just walk

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into like a national party last oh

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yeah you're an ass to get rescued

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right i could get the missing for one cases

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we talked about i could happen any part it

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does easily mans like

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or a

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i could have happened without a these

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for natural or any mystery monitors

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i target app and yes trades

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the route me i only running

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around a diner i

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wouldn't be lost

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the about the trees they can maybe i'll find big fan

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degruy right is not the first fear i've my

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mouth but it is

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pay for your ability this month

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we're gonna unsettling for us because

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honestly there are so many of them around the

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world and there's only so weeks in this

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month what was the comeback to some in the

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future but we wanted to find of the

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the biggest ones from around the world so let

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us know taskforce you are a global

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the audience so we want to know if anybody

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lives near any of these particular force

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are going to talk about in this month very

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eager maybe at the other the episode i'll walk

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you through what episodes are coming next song which

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normally you know i don't know we're testing different things

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that normally we like to keep little mystery for you

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know the learning is send him offenses

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are yeah bunch of raptors you like to surprise

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you on a monday with the mystery now now you start

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pencilling i'm in make this classroom and

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an ointment things look forward to right

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stop by the task force hq of

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i'm right about buttons it will you know

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been understand but i still on his his

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of on what on on spelled

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about what not assert his abs

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are product is is this a teaser was not

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was big by and the

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i grabbed his our bread or i so let's dive

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into it let's talk about the which film and if you're listening

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to this with your ears as i hope are not listening

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with your eyes you're gonna notice that were

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as a which elmo law is w y c

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h elm it's a type of which

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elm is is best known for it's

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towering size it's about one hundred feet

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on average is swinging and a good up to and

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which elm is usually associated with death or

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at least for many many years it was associated with

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that due to how often it

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was used to make coffins though

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it has a bit of a cultural history tall

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then i wouldn't

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how'd you feel about having a treat

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that like in your backyard or which on

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yeah sounds sick

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i'd down for it occur you like that

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you're at their house with these are caught him the as

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the caught that my coffin trump grow and my you

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, i will always get a slice of

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i'm not hearing on november twenty the head i said how

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far just try to make

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my own daughter and move alright with

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all the do some buttons out of the way list

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let's into the mystery of who

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put bella in the which

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ill so i'm gonna take you way

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back wine that machine back to april

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eighteen nineteen forty three

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a group of teenage boys walking through hagley

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woods hagley isn't a large

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village and civil parish of worcestershire

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england's on the boundary of

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the west midlands now very simply

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put the west midlands is a metropolitan

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county of england

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it contains a of beautiful cities

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birmingham coventry dudley sand well

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so and so forth many beautiful places

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parts of dudley well in birmingham actually

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lie in the historic county of

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was to sir where the story takes

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place so shout out to english task

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force though these boys were

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trespassing in the woods which

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were on grounds of hagley hollis states

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owned by lord cobbled not

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really firstly went wrong

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if they got lord and from their name the

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government's way yeah

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one our lord of my time be would pricing

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cured but i target my job or did he

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had a target you for your money more

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just hate you because they

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would just think you're like to spend

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true i feel like all lords and been

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mr to goes well right

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the have their own overstates damn

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these boys are taken it in the forests enter

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the force with their dogs hoping that

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they might be able to find eggs is

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what they're looking for an to take back to

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their families cook em up make a meal

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by

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burning for the dogs

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they would as like so like mean dogs

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can surf anything polite

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i guess got to a tree and start

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looking up and sniffing queso

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, it's not really come into the picture much

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beyond this but yeah comfort and

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no smell things out and texan

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you know this is the rare cause i'm like was dismissed

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for eggs of his buttons sniffers

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now along their way one of the

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boys actually bob farmer specifically

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spotted specifically which film and he said you know

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what that's what tall tree i think i'm and the climate so

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climbed up at the top the tree he was

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able to then notice that the tree

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was hollow he could look down the center

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of the trunk into bottom of the tree and

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when he looks down there he saw what

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looked like a white object and of course in

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the hunt for a bird eggs like great

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i've found an age when

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he pulls this egg out of the tree

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he finds himself face to face with

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a human skull the was described

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as human hair stuck into

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it oh crooked teeth

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that hung out of the schools mouth and

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of course the boy was super scared

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put the school back we found it in all the boys

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ran out of the woods that point

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boys made a that they would keep the school

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a secret because if they told anyone what

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they saw they get in trouble

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for simply trespassing on state

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while the seem like an easy secret to keep at the time

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seventeen year old tom willetts uneasy

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about what they found of course anyone the

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right mind would is always one that crack at

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you know there's always one bad egg here

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but you know was feeling uneasy about what they found

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couldn't help himself told his parents

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sounds like you've got a good relationship with his but

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of course the parents were like well that's disturbing

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we have to call the police immediately the

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police immediately go to the site where

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they found the which home and they looked around themselves

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upon realizing how tightly jammed

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into the trunk the skeleton was the tree

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had to be cut down in order for police

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to further access the remains inside

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of the tree then once

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they did cut it down within the hollow tree the police

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not found the skull that

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the boys found but they found the rest of

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the entire skeleton of a woman

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minus the here there's a

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lot to unpack here last some tack i

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will say bye

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i can very much like envision this

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because i was younger there isn't

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the

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no trespassing ourselves but the really

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going to pass little will take that as a confession

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write that down president go ahead it added

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to listen for that right under our know

8:23

what concerning ourselves or native in

8:26

ah but is it been hospitals are we were just like

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that's gotta be yeah yeah the

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we were just like and the the path was like

8:34

you deep in the was like

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oh , of course course

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they're cute girl in the groove the know there was

8:45

a group of assume like yeah

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maybe was cucumber a ride

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bikes you know as i there may

8:53

be like six of us so i feel like going

8:55

out i mean look young

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of my house i can a ruined

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though happily married a hot smart

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because it was like pitch dark like the path

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to get there is a just like gravel

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and you know trees and stuff

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so i would probably but my butt

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out there

9:12

though you know we'd we did in south like

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while you're saying this or it in in my mind

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like jesus like why would he be free

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saw like

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the body their yeah right that that's

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like who you do i think your group

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do honestly a group

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we will report it pressure right ah

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i don't think we would be i call her address i think we

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would

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oh boy

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maybe maybe was younger i'd out more

9:37

but as of right now about the come across as like

9:41

gnarly would like ours i could be like this is

9:43

like a crazy jewish and him by

9:46

the body you dead now

9:48

depending on my bike the love of decay

9:50

right by your favorite says the inquest right

9:52

that's a huge question by they

9:55

found

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mostly skeleton like stoppages

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of here and scanner

9:59

ny and that is like all that's

10:02

that's gross but if you're talking

10:04

about like a body that more is

10:06

mostly splash or even

10:08

then it just like oh that's a person

10:10

that

10:11

mike is in between like the sleeping

10:14

and like my goodness like i think their

10:16

dad and my that's terrifying oh yeah

10:18

right like that that to me yard stare

10:20

me at it's what if it recent

10:22

activity given us with up

10:24

you don't know why as and be like and in this way

10:26

is the first don't have finity i like i

10:28

going to gay guy am i going to be whether the and

10:30

say i mean these are all is no single

10:33

i thought of over

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the eyes so far higher

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same is like a my head i'm like wow

10:39

like so many back to iowa

10:41

of personal experience ray alarming

10:43

mind if i found something during that moment

10:46

where be terrifying there are could

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be a depending on like honestly weirdly

10:50

depending on

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the condition of the body

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now

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found

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in in a tree yet

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tightly packed in there to the point where they had to cut

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us some so whether was are like a whole

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life find it a tree

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or was always he did he came over the top and look

11:07

dc looked down yeah he he looked

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down and the top of the head from there

11:12

was this story is always that part is always

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me personally i write i'm i read or

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like talk this i always

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misunderstand if there was a separate

11:21

whole at bottom either

11:24

way this this woman was fully encased

11:26

in slots in this which

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on whether there was a smaller hunt down

11:30

below not i believe the way that

11:32

this body was understood be there was top

11:34

down or captain that's i

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don't a christian correct me if i'm wrong at

11:39

this is now an assumption button based

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on the further details after

11:43

researching it i believe that there is not a whole

11:45

down below i believe so yeah

11:47

by interpretation that like you said it's from

11:50

takedown node actually it's on a

11:52

honesty strains you say no one

11:54

really clarify that in anything that i

11:57

like heard or read about i'm

11:59

sure people do course but and

12:01

right detail or yeah because me like

12:03

to visualize things are like was

12:05

climbing up and as use climbing up on there was

12:07

a hole in the sky that three or have the gall

12:10

way towards like the top of the train and

12:12

looked at yeah no i don't think this was one hundred

12:14

foot tree that he climbed up as that's where they can

12:16

get to but yeah he he he

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found a a decaying essentially

12:20

long trunk look down

12:22

on there was so the police hack this

12:24

thing down to get inside they the skeleton

12:26

on or is the minus that hand and

12:29

along with the skeleton would had

12:31

some fabric remnants from clothing wrapped

12:33

around her bones police also found a gold

12:35

ring some used to me

12:38

i believe it was one blue chew perhaps

12:40

to one was being worn at least and

12:42

they believe that these items also

12:44

belong to the skeleton around the tree

12:46

police found bones that eventually

12:49

they figured out constituted one's hands

12:51

in this could be the missing hand so the

12:53

authorities believe that the bones of the hand

12:56

must have been disturbed wildlife in some

12:58

way given that they were scattered

13:00

around the piece of to

13:02

fed a fabric believe i'm pronouncing

13:04

that properly i hope i am this fabric

13:06

was found inside the mouse possibly

13:09

indicating that this woman had suffocated or

13:11

been suffocated a medical named

13:13

james webster looked at the skeleton

13:15

in was able to determine that the woman

13:17

died in roughly october

13:20

nineteen forty one roughly

13:22

thirty five years old that's the

13:24

best estimate otherwise there was a range also

13:27

given with this and that range was of

13:29

anywhere between twenty five and forty years old

13:31

so a pretty good

13:33

guess based on all things

13:35

considered an interesting fact was

13:38

that she was five feet tall which

13:40

not sure about the nineteen forties but is a super

13:42

common heights or a fully grown

13:45

woman another

13:47

interesting detail that makes this

13:49

individual distinct was her

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protruding p which you

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could play i'm i'm going to get into but you could talk

13:55

to a dentist and to try to look up records

13:58

for these unique

13:59

it around this person

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additionally there was also light brown hair and

14:03

the medical examiner was also able to determine

14:05

that had given birth to at least child

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based on the way the skeleton was lodged in the tree

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was sure that this was the result

14:13

of a murder rather than an accident

14:16

or a suicide though there were

14:18

no signs of violence at this site

14:20

the believe that the woman was killed at least

14:22

in the immediate area then place

14:26

in the tree she had been killed some

14:28

or else it would have taken a lot of effort in time

14:30

to take this body to this

14:32

location and webster thought it would also

14:34

be very unlikely that they would have time

14:37

to take a corpse and put it down the tree

14:39

before rigor said it rigor mortis

14:42

of course being the stiffening of joints in the muscles

14:45

that make the body very rigid a

14:47

few hours after death and that usually

14:49

last from one to four days man

14:51

just

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i'm baffled like even back then

14:54

they're able to pinpoint so many fine

14:56

little detail right just

14:59

near miami access to

15:01

the the body granted i give access

15:03

to the body the whole body

15:05

looking at the body study be like

15:07

okay here are the facts here is a bunch

15:09

details access but the whole rigor mortis

15:12

thing is by

15:13

actually important because yeah i mean you

15:15

can't really stuff about down

15:17

there so had to be recent

15:19

the thing that you sad that kind

15:21

of like you know like

15:23

put a pin it it the the fact there was a gold

15:26

ring and into get the gold ring so doesn't

15:28

seem like great big vikram

15:30

more different valuables on him

15:32

there was ray horton and maybe there is a time crunch

15:34

by

15:35

the me off off or like

15:37

off the rip where am i thinking like

15:39

or this was a robbery rise as does the

15:41

gold something lawyer yeah is

15:43

this price some deeper

15:45

i'm curious to like how they were

15:47

murdered his more for even know like

15:50

our eight yeah weather like

15:52

scratch marks on the phone indicating

15:55

like stabbing rain like that

15:57

we'll dive into the theories as much

15:59

as we can it's really

16:01

hard because despite really narrowing

16:03

the search based on these details not

16:06

much else to go on will will expand

16:08

around that search sheer in a bit but in

16:10

an effort like i said to identify

16:12

the skeleton worcestershire police contacted

16:15

local dentist to see if any of them

16:17

could possibly recognize these unique protruding

16:20

t also compared the schools teeth

16:23

with those of missing persons reports

16:25

and subsequently found no

16:27

answers on april twenty fourth

16:30

of nineteen forty three the northern

16:32

daily mail published a probable description

16:35

of this individual so that way to be blasted

16:38

to the public and a public then help

16:40

and of group think this search a little bit with

16:42

this to say quotes for ages given

16:44

as between twenty five and forty most

16:47

probably thirty five heights five

16:49

seats with light brown hair and dressed

16:51

dark blue and mustard colored stripe

16:53

cardigan and mustard colored skirt

16:56

blue soled shoes size five and a half

16:59

all the garments were described as poor quality

17:01

and a wedding rings found among the bones

17:04

was have rolled gold though

17:07

they posted this they also had a

17:09

drawing of what this person could have looked like

17:11

with their clothes for it all that you take a look at that

17:13

drawing but as always at

17:16

read web pod is our twitter

17:18

handle and hours you tube

17:20

and all of you wanna go find the

17:22

visual assets for yourself but eventually

17:24

it's just

17:25

very and drawn version of what i

17:28

described yeah elements and

17:30

drawn there's really no

17:32

like i mean designer nose on it

17:34

the detailed the eyes are like i am

17:36

going to date a don't know who it as or whatever

17:39

the trees are really by i mean yeah

17:41

there's nothing here is mostly were you when you

17:44

at this it's it's mostly just like a

17:47

the go building block for information

17:49

that goes around it right it it just looks

17:51

like that could be a standard woman yep of this

17:54

time period you know you might

17:56

have help with the hair length because

17:58

if you look at the hear that was on the scales then you go from

18:00

that but otherwise standard

18:02

drawing not at our ever

18:05

it can require or like a murder

18:08

you gotta think that the person

18:11

that did do this

18:13

my grabbed the miss being

18:15

blasted everywhere

18:17

the sweat in a bit

18:18

oh yeah various needed like

18:21

old are they found the body right like

18:23

the little a little stressed out but also

18:26

if you did it and you find that everyone's

18:28

going who did this you might then started

18:30

to go maybe

18:32

the on free maybe i don't know i

18:34

mean after a little better would settle in like maybe on free

18:38

every single day at me a gonna stomp

18:40

on my front door toy a oh yeah

18:43

the police then investigating the

18:45

items that they found surrounding the tree but

18:48

still found themselves at a dead end courses

18:50

unsolved mysteries that going on yep find a lot

18:52

of that ends but in nineteen forty three it's

18:55

worth remembering that this was site

18:57

of world war two which quickly

18:59

took precedence over the mysterious woman being

19:01

found in this tree and subsequently the case

19:03

kind of went cold for a little bit the

19:06

police found no answers had bigger concerns

19:08

with the war so they parks this

19:10

case for quite some time and it

19:12

wouldn't until nearly six months

19:14

later if not longer

19:16

actually that other evidence

19:18

not even evidence that something else happened

19:21

around the town hawk had died down

19:23

of the tree skeleton leeds

19:25

went colds really this whole thing

19:27

got forgotten until nineteen forty

19:29

four around christmas time when a mysterious

19:32

graffiti was spotted

19:34

on an abandoned building it was found

19:37

in west midlands written in block letters and

19:39

in white shark and it said quote put

19:41

new bella down the which the

19:44

time and name hadn't

19:46

mentioned with regards to the body so

19:48

lot of people when finding out about this graffiti

19:50

immediately go that must be person

19:53

that did it or must be someone that about

19:55

this case because they named the

19:57

unidentified person i will it's

20:00

worth mentioning that we know if

20:02

this is the name or a name

20:04

someone is kind made one up right

20:07

barreling i'm gonna label this i'm

20:10

person case myself yeah there

20:13

are no oh man there's a handful impact

20:15

their

20:16

back for mean one

20:19

my yeah mean in some of the iraqi

20:21

put myself in the situation is there like a

20:23

have made a vow the like right

20:25

a question yeah do block letters or be the

20:27

and goats know you can't lay on tas block

20:29

letters of or it as one right exactly

20:32

you won't know them by hold up corner

20:34

bottom left curve regards

20:36

you might

20:39

now that's that's the insane everything

20:41

about late

20:42

in my my instantly of like oh this

20:45

is someone that knows

20:47

the person

20:48

it could have yeah know it could have very

20:50

well been someone labeling marty

20:53

what america is them i

20:55

know that does more harm right

20:58

it's misinformation gray regardless

21:00

of intent or not but it

21:02

does like growing up this

21:04

whole like missing person case

21:07

the like but i've really good

21:09

kind of takes the cases spirals

21:11

in spirals weird russian right russian

21:14

wrote there

21:15

there's is the person like ah

21:18

as other name down and another

21:20

thing hope for not yeah it it is

21:22

really tough because again of

21:24

intent it creates a very

21:27

twisty potential called

21:29

trail prior to now the police have to track down

21:32

who did this they do many

21:34

months later know why now

21:36

and why with the name and was

21:39

this just a prank or what so anyway

21:41

let's talk more about this for feet or that will the to

21:43

his lawyer if you don't know the person

21:46

i'd be just curious as to why the so important

21:50

my do right to be brought back up again

21:52

right or if you didn't know the person why

21:54

be anonymous yeah right

21:57

when i go to the police and say some the yeah either

21:59

way it's quite to be right

22:01

in the middle yeah especially

22:03

in lake listen i get it

22:05

i wouldn't want anyone disrespected either i

22:07

wouldn't want a missing person or

22:10

a found to be kind of neglected but

22:12

if world war two was raging when

22:14

the war to end all wars was meant

22:16

to be the final one and now you're in the throes of

22:18

second world war let's

22:21

step back a little bit less not sargodha

22:23

police

22:24

the about that by though great we

22:27

are a lot the river it can do

22:29

so it's definitely an interesting

22:31

move so sometime later

22:33

it is mentioning that piece

22:36

of graffiti message was found on a building

22:38

in birmingham this time it said something slightly

22:40

different quo who put bella in

22:43

which film hagley would the

22:45

same area more writings were found with variations

22:47

of the original question this is

22:49

the same forests and the same type

22:51

of tree that the unidentified body

22:53

was found and of course is pointing exactly

22:56

does this case they specified

22:58

in yet another message hagley would

23:00

to really center it it though

23:03

various messages had variations

23:05

in them it appears that it's the same

23:07

person due to the chalk been present

23:09

on both writings and the handwriting been

23:11

very similar or that prevails glass

23:13

that yeah what is the writing match up

23:16

the police on the missing persons cases

23:19

with people names bella cause

23:21

right that's another angry more details you

23:23

of england or down that lane and

23:26

they asked the public for information on

23:28

anybody that's missing abella any

23:30

missing bella please share your information

23:33

the discovery in persistence of this graffiti

23:35

gave new life the case and a name

23:38

to investigate none of the bellas

23:40

that popped up because of this search and

23:42

because of this graffiti the description

23:45

of the woman found in the which i'm a kind of

23:47

create a more questions but ultimately

23:49

it's unknown how many and

23:51

how often the message appeared

23:53

or when his ever the original writer starts

23:56

basically i'm trying to is graffiti

23:58

started popping up everywhere

23:59

it might have been one writer at a moment

24:02

suddenly it's spiral that a control

24:04

and a lot of came forward but

24:06

none of them ultimately match the five foot

24:09

crooked protruding teeth light

24:11

brown hair a description

24:13

that the skeleton had in fact

24:15

it wasn't until the nineteen seventies a few

24:17

decades later that the most famous

24:20

it a ration of the message was found and

24:22

it was on the hagley slash

24:25

obelisk the same the

24:28

body was discovered in time said

24:30

the same words but with a different spelling

24:32

quote who put bella in the which

24:35

l again you're listening with your

24:37

ears not your eyes and which this

24:39

time is spelled the u i t c

24:41

h as in the magic being rather

24:44

than a type of tree though

24:46

this is this is really what starts

24:48

to give it a new feel and starts

24:50

to bring in series and

24:52

id asian around witchcraft and

24:55

cel around

24:58

that sort of thing right as someone thing

25:00

of this person

25:01

well

25:02

or which casting spells

25:05

are played new node trying to sway

25:07

through their minds the like than then there was terrifying

25:10

killed them bickering a historic

25:12

excuse for violence the absolute

25:14

yeah though since the nineteen

25:17

seventies the hagley obelisk and other buildings

25:19

in the area been repeatedly written

25:21

on with this message essentially just

25:23

like a viral trend in this area now

25:25

for this to pop up and white shark the

25:28

message in the hagley ah plus their this

25:30

day there's a picture of it our

25:32

and the just

25:34

a theory as one might imagine

25:36

the

25:37

slowly drawn all capital letters

25:39

or a very skinny and shocks like dirt

25:41

in a haunted child worldly up there are

25:43

a mean should be vandalizing bellies the radio

25:46

chart right spirit that oss easy

25:48

gotta dance now

25:50

and twenty british anthropologist

25:53

and facial reconstruction expert caroline

25:55

wilkinson recreated bellas

25:57

features by using photos taken

26:00

from the crime scene in order to with

26:02

that face would look like we actually

26:04

do have for you right away

26:06

or visualization of that face when

26:09

my favorite techniques of modern

26:11

science is that people can do

26:13

this i don't know how accurate it is right

26:15

i would love to why people like a goal

26:17

and and do this to someone who's living but

26:21

hello the the coloring in the lighting makes

26:23

blood very spooky safely creepy

26:26

i'm a lie i did ridiculous

26:28

yeah i know this is a person's face

26:30

of like oh this is a photo someone

26:32

the

26:34

man it's crazy yeah the t they're very

26:37

the two front teeth

26:39

the overlap layer or

26:41

yeah the like over ladder differently and in that would

26:43

like barry crooked there was one of the the

26:46

key descriptors of this yes

26:48

sir edmund mind

26:50

you know this person

26:54

the i had ever leave a mark

26:55

in your memory bright

26:57

it's a unique face yeah now

26:59

i love this type of spearman

27:02

i've always just wondered about the accuracy

27:04

right i've seen it used on

27:06

mommy's in ancient egypt and how they bring

27:08

people's faces the life and i think it's the dope is

27:10

thing i've ever lived the bring the dead

27:12

back at so to visualize it really

27:15

puts your mind back in time and that's one

27:17

of my favorite things about history but i digress

27:19

either way they got the major like

27:21

the macro level descriptors right they got

27:23

the the face shape and the mouth and the hair

27:25

and everything now one of the things that

27:27

always frustrates about these unsolved cases

27:30

when things get lost and downs

27:32

logan and it's and

27:34

it's than the that too because it was the actual

27:37

school he wasn't able to anything

27:39

but photos of this stuff back a

27:41

few decades or many decades at this point

27:43

ago because the school itself was

27:46

lost in the police don't

27:48

know what happened to it the

27:51

human goal the human skull are missing

27:53

persons case right i'll you lose the

27:55

weight hear about like a

27:57

what i don't understand is like this happened

27:59

my a valuable stuff like this india

28:02

history of happened make

28:05

not that we would be able to find out

28:07

i would love to know that the us to think

28:09

of like

28:11

like were the chain

28:13

happen

28:14

we ever have peace in idea

28:16

oh we don't know who but we have

28:18

location in the chain right the

28:21

police obviously you're on scene the

28:24

body goes for an autopsy professor

28:26

webster then after the autopsy

28:29

gave the remains to a fellow professor

28:31

somewhere in that particular time period dollars

28:34

skeleton went missing from the

28:36

medical school don't know if it's a college

28:38

prank you don't know if it's a

28:40

mix up of evidence isn't but

28:42

it makes you wonder was the cells

28:45

and destroyed or is it now

28:47

somewhere obvious right that like

28:50

it's right in front of people are all nibbling

28:52

like the just don't know that are accurate and

28:54

are loyal is it on

28:56

display at like a medical white

28:59

girl the university and

29:01

i'm like that rival custody or of

29:03

at a museum yeah forged can make so that

29:05

nother still regular body

29:07

donated by that never crossed

29:09

my mind yeah yeah, or

29:12

i it have been like, you know, for

29:14

know this study or something like that and then i

29:16

don't know what the is isn't possibly

29:18

unfortunate discarded after that

29:20

or stored away somewhere, but

29:22

it

29:23

could be, you think they'll like the teeth

29:25

would come? of keep that like

29:29

like oh wait a minute hold on hold on this one

29:31

hell of it yet they had it score

29:33

has i'm no crooked

29:35

right that allows got in a

29:37

long so yeah yeah if

29:40

not these until well right

29:43

maybe question mark of the future but it very well

29:45

be like there's gotta be like one school out

29:47

there was like this is the school yeah of

29:50

a certain king during the nineteen

29:52

fifties and really like nice like from

29:54

thrive when we have it it does fella see

29:56

those to right oh my goodness yeah

29:59

i don't i don't know man lake and or in thought

30:01

about that he see wonder like what would you

30:04

would you do at school

30:05

hi guys can i don't know

30:08

that's frustrating i hope i don't get lost or

30:10

maybe i do our own maybe i want my body

30:12

actively doing something right rummy

30:14

there's guy just happen to be on display

30:17

i was like this is of about oh yes

30:19

this is a stall avoid don't know

30:22

the inventor enron or like now

30:24

really ought to be attributed oh sticking

30:26

around there in the south exhibit what yeah my

30:30

, or your ball going to deliver cheekbone

30:33

like about sigma of the

30:35

yes no one ultimately knows

30:37

exactly sure when this went missing

30:40

nor has anyone been able to recover the missing evidence

30:43

and i think yes that impacts

30:45

would caroline wilkinson was doing with recreating

30:47

her features in a photograph the

30:49

worst of all now in modern

30:51

medicine in modern and friends

30:54

it makes impossible to do well

30:56

not impossible but because of this

30:59

they were unable to do modern dna testing

31:01

on it my question is then where

31:03

other bones

31:04

the i could you use the other bone yes

31:06

i noted they want to hear that was on

31:08

his yeah the hair would work

31:10

really well

31:12

were you when he has his was

31:14

a thing is though lanes there's hair

31:16

amen i guess depending on how

31:18

a decade they're only be here on

31:21

the goal yeah i i

31:23

did not and as calmly as here stuck into

31:26

it ah which is weird

31:28

like i don't know exactly what that means i wrote

31:30

into will

31:31

there's no

31:33

what force trauma that like yeah

31:35

like the scalp into the maybe it was just

31:37

stuck to it or something yeah i mean

31:40

what are your project hair having got

31:42

stuck to it with the exxon or oh

31:44

lincoln of the deeper yeah oh

31:47

yeah i got freaked me out but that's what bones me

31:49

out the most does not being able to do a dna analysis

31:51

you want people to find relatives or anybody

31:53

that matches in some sort of that's

31:56

resolved so many cases yeah

31:58

either and like

32:00

back then i don't think there was only an egg

32:02

and an extensive

32:05

like dental record archive somewhere

32:07

in your media nowadays yeah

32:09

me or these blog digitally by

32:12

one thing i'm going off my my memory now

32:14

because i don't have a semi notes but one thing i do

32:16

remember and he studied some dentistry back

32:19

in college so the question for you know

32:21

but it looked as though looking

32:23

at the police were like it seem that a tooth

32:26

had polled road and we recently

32:28

in the persons living life and so they

32:31

thought that that little or

32:33

dental activity would at least be

32:35

in the recent files of

32:37

dentist and so trying to corroborate

32:40

all this information did seem like a very smart

32:42

play the and are some theories

32:44

that attempt to address why in

32:46

the local area this person wasn't

32:49

popping up oh that's and six

32:51

year nami like even back then there

32:53

was some sort of like system

32:55

to like

32:57

that to records i mean

32:59

the they viewed as like i pulled this person's canine

33:01

right having they're still like they're still letters

33:03

and lies but like that because there's a

33:05

continuous right it's a continuous

33:08

thing i like him back then he had some odd

33:10

what they're doing so now with a new like

33:12

where this person to throughout the history

33:15

of a hill that are like with like matter

33:17

like or was this they oh i see

33:19

had work on that teeth but honestly but

33:21

honestly that's

33:23

good memory talked about how that's

33:25

what that's like a path that they chase down

33:27

the most but i mean a makes sense like he can

33:29

learn a lot of just like dental records

33:31

on won't

33:32

the but kind of like a narrow down

33:35

like did you have like

33:37

i mean it could there right now not not

33:39

bag then bella even trade like was

33:42

there amalgam using their t three lanes

33:44

and parcel and my the

33:47

was there things i can visualize news

33:49

right anything and could

33:51

help at all yeah where

33:53

i was like okay or narrowing it down

33:56

and this has this is very specific dental

33:58

work like minute how

34:00

when favorite things is when they're archaeologists

34:04

are paleontologists or anything are

34:06

analyzing teeth from extinct

34:08

creatures are just wherever they find him

34:10

and they go were based on them the ridges

34:12

on the back of his teeth be think this are based on how

34:14

these teeth were worn down we think their diet was high

34:16

in fiber something like that like yeah that

34:19

kind of stuff blows my mind you mean

34:21

like you could even or me like even like

34:23

of

34:24

like any typos the

34:27

difference or any type

34:30

of the care destruction

34:32

to the tooth enamel and

34:34

my even like the out of protective layer the den tenth

34:37

and more that law who

34:39

knows how extensive was the that the law

34:42

he was back then but even like nowadays like if

34:44

he had a cabbie in a certain that's law

34:46

yeah answer so it

34:48

that's enough now detect a dental records

34:50

there's like okay whatever the cavity here in their

34:53

in their insular let's send that out like know

34:55

have literally log

34:57

like take look at the teeth log all

34:59

the different like areas and like

35:01

work and word like any type of the

35:05

k or any issues with a dent

35:07

in it all i kind of stuff and they'll send

35:09

out the like local denny's my case

35:12

match any i use your

35:14

record yeah i got x like it's

35:16

it can be pretty expensive latifah clinging

35:18

them all details here it's are

35:20

essentially fingerprint of

35:22

the face of

35:28

where's your question kind of going back here

35:30

yet occasion and in maybe this is todd

35:32

out of your wheelhouse because it is more orthodontic oriented

35:35

but the question i have is if her teeth

35:37

for crooked in protruding uncertain unique ways

35:39

would it be possible

35:41

that

35:42

okay i guess going back the the skeletons

35:45

probably entirely last not just the skull

35:47

yeah focusing in on the skull that

35:50

this could have been used for orthodontics

35:52

studies in the forties fifties

35:54

whatever like is that something you can do

35:56

on a skull because the are very

35:58

rigid that at that point living tissue

36:00

tim manipulate teeth overtime or

36:03

there anything like with regards to or

36:06

orthodontist tree that have the

36:09

used maybe that's why it went missing because someone was

36:11

like that's a perfect score for my class

36:13

on my real your tag is and could see happening

36:16

nowadays we have three models and are all

36:18

kinds of just just middle

36:20

models and areas like that or it's just like you

36:23

know they'll check boxes and be like okay

36:25

and and is t t shift around different ways

36:27

and then also little like mike [unk] models

36:29

i'll be practice on yeah for

36:31

years i did study him back then

36:34

they don't have that right so you would think

36:36

yeah the they

36:38

look at

36:40

the living persons t

36:42

lord some extent like why wouldn't they studied

36:45

some that passed away or a baby that could

36:47

have been like okay this is just a some of the passed away

36:49

to can use for science and the

36:52

just mean that a science was like you

36:55

know the body as doctor

36:57

in i could have been at and yeah that that

36:59

is fact you but like

37:00

and have been identified as well ,

37:03

defend the the accidental

37:05

said okay their doctors do

37:07

they are they just

37:10

one hundred people who don't refer them know them

37:12

as an uncle was my den

37:14

and well i know where he's not in the same state

37:16

any more so he isn't but yeah was yeah [unk]

37:19

yeah that use my dad if you saw me either

37:21

vivid didn't have access i'm aljazeera

37:23

they had you know

37:25

kind of like models and are like that but why

37:27

wouldn't they study actual t the right even

37:29

if it like this is a rare up on

37:31

i our beloved they would even

37:33

to see like where the decay look like whatever

37:35

like difference like the teeth different afterlife

37:39

but i sense

37:40

yeah

37:41

interesting man i i guess

37:43

league different lifetime your so you for couple

37:45

years and i worked as a

37:47

dental assistant producer fun for the

37:49

worse thing to do ah

37:52

in their drill you wanna clean and life

37:54

like analyze i can like sterilizing

37:56

like the tools i like layers and down

37:58

because i like working with

38:00

airlines and a light i think we're giving

38:03

it a back dentistry some sort of thing

38:06

going , as the caterpillar just just

38:09

, reserves

38:12

are on get me i

38:14

just use mouthwash is my office

38:17

says it just a tiny rise ah

38:20

tiny think the worst thing which of way

38:22

when it comes to

38:24

like going to a doctor everyone is gonna

38:26

done media i gotta go right

38:28

was when it comes to dental stars

38:31

the lot of viewers go i could just

38:33

we we doing something happens is your mouth like

38:35

it's paint pressure whatever just

38:37

like it goes when you ask which

38:40

is the worst thing because it just pastors and it gets worse

38:42

right or starts breaking down at you know

38:44

alia or to the nurses them every to

38:47

buy

38:47

like then it dies it as painless it

38:50

it's live very interesting like drilling

38:52

down to the letters a single restaurants

38:54

like a threat if it's in flames like a little pillow

38:57

it's wasilla like i'm

38:59

but it is illegal i think the worst thing

39:01

aside from like now bad breath and happen

39:04

they a toast this is just

39:06

the fact the like you would like i i don't

39:08

wanna be here yeah i would you other doctors

39:11

like i don't want to be here buddy to do this year

39:13

like know and some in spite of these areas

39:15

like i don't want to be his array my time

39:17

why are the cost of those like i

39:19

mean we we're drilling to

39:21

the

39:23

into a tooth once and it just a completely

39:25

fractured oh yeah dispatch aliens

39:28

his blood square oh gord

39:30

up on like automate says not like

39:32

that online less than

39:36

one finances the on our it was

39:38

it was fun i'd totally stoked

39:41

totally the day would go back to do something

39:43

satisfying i think about taking whether

39:45

it be inanimate objects or someone's

39:48

oral hygiene and taking it from why

39:51

where it is to like right queen

39:53

ended up getting real nice and sorted and

39:55

than sending them off

39:56

some icu about added by your during a that

39:58

like break it down how

40:00

ya like dentist face allotted

40:03

mistrusts there's a lot of trust issues

40:05

with year over a lot of other

40:07

doctors i'm no just no your hand

40:10

that because you can get away with a lot you can

40:13

shallow false fillings and all of

40:15

he i will you someone i went through

40:17

that mom also dental school

40:19

did did it say that are you know centers

40:21

of eyes suicide rating on

40:24

this is how it has no one likes dentists

40:26

and

40:27

it kind of gets to people and for various

40:29

reasons it there

40:32

by

40:32

hundred the

40:34

when i wanted to do it here well

40:38

, there task force this is trevor

40:40

as always good to talk right to you and

40:42

let just air this one out worcestershire

40:45

what's going on england with the pronunciation

40:47

he had made twisted and toyland on the

40:49

on that one base ah i hope i pronounced

40:52

it right but anyway this is my chance

40:54

to give you some housekeeping notes on what's going on

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let's move on

44:33

now to the theories who start

44:35

exploring as as with many cases

44:38

i feel like this thing only opens up a little wider

44:40

when you start to dive into the theories because

44:42

more information comes forward and more

44:45

things start to hi oh on

44:47

whether they're related or not ah

44:49

the nuggets that you withhold from

44:51

me well i'll come into the lions

44:53

are on the road or

44:56

so some of the first theory bella

44:59

the spy and the masa talk

45:02

about the journalists wilfred by for

45:04

jones received an anonymous letter

45:06

in nineteen fifty three by the alias

45:09

honor ten years

45:11

give or take few months after

45:13

the body was found this letter says quotes

45:16

finish your articles regarding which i'm crime

45:18

by all means they are interesting to the readers

45:21

but you'll never solve the mystery

45:23

one person who could give the answers is now

45:26

beyond the jurisdiction of earthly courts

45:28

much as i hate having to use a nom de

45:30

plume i think he would appreciate

45:33

it if you knew me the only

45:35

clue that i give you are that the person

45:37

responsible for the crime died insane

45:40

in nineteen forty two a victim

45:42

was dutch and alive illegally

45:45

in england about nineteen forty once

45:47

i have no wish to recall any more honor

45:50

cleverly herself earthly

45:52

courts what is like lore the ring basically

45:55

say yeah right like my way

45:57

would still leave really spice

45:59

it up

46:03

i don't believe under found a personal ghouls

46:05

gonna live in an eye on her mother

46:07

they were we are in the highgate not

46:09

ideas where it where the sites of talking

46:12

as i'm writing is no he's in his

46:14

forties or fifties run this time and so maybe the

46:16

language billowing

46:18

out of them fired them fired wouldn't they

46:20

talk i'll say and seem right yeah

46:23

it does the word , do when

46:27

when sees the more caveman rail on know

46:30

i got too impatient even for half or

46:35

came across were tricked

46:38

yeah it's like

46:40

what it's like the way like google or a

46:43

real auto fill but like you're right it sounded

46:45

spicy but yeah it mean back then they they they are

46:48

dance your budget

46:50

the or something about like earthly court

46:52

worms like that to me it was like that's not

46:55

hark back then and feel like your spices

46:57

ended up it does feel spiced up with let me give

46:59

you a counter example or town or thought instead

47:01

of saying you know i'm imagining this is

47:04

running stream of consciousness so they say this

47:06

person is beyond your earthly

47:08

judgments they are instead there the

47:10

heavens right they are being judged by

47:12

their deeds in the great beyond were very

47:15

are you gonna do for me in they

47:18

did draws in french nom de plume

47:20

nom deposited what does that mean exactly like

47:23

a name of the dead or a like i

47:25

to name the dead know plums

47:27

a pen name name and

47:29

i saw that is very important

47:32

to land on because ana

47:34

as we will find out is not this

47:36

woman's actual yeah they

47:39

admit that this is this is kind of like a name

47:41

vessel law and

47:44

for lot of info like at the time merchandise

47:47

way down into it to oh okay i'd

47:49

be curious to see if there's anything

47:51

that kind of like brings wait

47:54

are treated and yeah that's a that's a lot

47:56

his allies probably one of our bigger theories

47:59

let's dive into this ana cent more letters

48:01

where she claimed that this bella character

48:03

was involved with an informant for

48:05

the nazi spy ring working

48:07

to determine the location of local

48:10

munitions factories which could then be

48:12

targeted by the german army after

48:14

a little digging police found that honor was actually

48:16

a woman named una moss up

48:18

this is where than a massive come in at the

48:20

title of the theory so una accused

48:23

her own husband jack moss up of

48:25

killing bella this is why she knew

48:27

more details about jack in

48:29

the why she kind of spoke maybe vaguely

48:31

about him but also in a more

48:33

glorious way right there's there's a personal

48:35

connection there the jack jack

48:38

massive worked in an ammunition

48:40

factory in coventry it was good

48:42

friends with a dutchman named van roles

48:45

and the this van roth character

48:47

was a nazi contact working as

48:49

a middleman selling jax information

48:51

on the arms factory worked at to

48:54

a spy ring in the midlands the

48:56

lot to unpack there are okay

48:58

but based on all this again this seems

49:01

to be word of mouth the jacketed

49:03

factually work at an ammunition factory but

49:05

it does what her potentially

49:08

at the of a very strong claim in

49:10

what you say the honor claims

49:13

that bella was working alongside

49:15

van roles and that she

49:17

came with him to england from the nether

49:20

this would then explain why bella

49:23

wasn't filed as a missing persons in this

49:25

area why there were no dental records coming

49:27

out why none of the local missing

49:29

bellas lined up with this supposed

49:31

bella she wasn't from

49:33

here right another letter actually

49:35

from owner blamed the death

49:38

of bella a drunken mistake

49:40

saying this quote march or april nineteen

49:42

forty said he had been to the little

49:44

said arms with van rods and

49:46

the dutch peace he ballot

49:49

and she had gotten awkward i'm

49:51

literally drunk essentially and

49:53

then passed out they went to

49:56

would and stuck her in a hollow tree van

49:58

roth said she would come to

49:59

then is the following morning

50:02

the end quote basically saying

50:04

that they all were working together

50:06

things went down she got drunk they

50:09

stuck in a tree and than the nazi informants

50:11

like nah don't you'll wake up in the morning and be

50:13

right as rain items

50:15

laura mercier or hazard

50:17

how we don't stick them down a tree

50:20

right the like my question

50:22

is was their information

50:24

that she was guilty knowing where she starting

50:26

to become like a loose lipped sort a situation

50:29

like oh my god she's gonna slip the deeds to the police

50:31

or i like an iceberg goldberg

50:34

the all that much like the process of way

50:37

the district of down to trigger the learn

50:39

their lesson

50:40

what when you come back

50:41

heck on the right to other

50:44

my go up and be fine right doesn't

50:46

know learned their lesson is is more so

50:48

like okay you wanna see the

50:50

outcome of our economy and you want to see the lesson

50:52

learned the or

50:54

you wanna see that

50:56

there you are good lesson learned and like awesome

50:59

done a better path or like you to see a

51:01

lesson learned the sense of like

51:03

you know you as you know suffer he was

51:05

he like you want us as backs of i i

51:08

know there is a we know us through

51:10

a role country that came back email like

51:12

bit is what it is good then he goes there's that

51:14

fuzzy eggs and will leave that to some boy and

51:16

years but are exceeding three years

51:18

two years i'm i digress

51:21

a it fits the story thus far though

51:23

in a very interesting way so supposedly this

51:25

bella character was stuck in the tree while unconscious

51:28

and then when she woke up she was unable to climb

51:30

out obviously because she was found there and then unfortunately

51:33

passed away now it

51:35

stands to reason why then

51:37

jack was committed in considered

51:40

insane because jack felt extreme

51:43

excruciating guilt following this incident

51:45

right leaving the unguarded

51:47

unconscious woman in a tree somewhere

51:49

on some someone to state and

51:52

he was then admitted to a mental hospital

51:54

about a year later jack then

51:56

died before bellows body able

51:58

to be found and v rawls was

52:00

never found so they could

52:02

not be questioned by police neither of them that

52:05

masip supposedly had recurring

52:07

nightmares about bella skull being

52:09

stuffed inside that tree and that

52:12

along with his guilt is what led to

52:14

his mental breakdown and his admission

52:16

to the mental hospital ultimately has

52:18

coroner's report suggested he

52:20

may have been suffering from chronic traumatic encephalopathy

52:24

chronic traumatic encephalopathy is

52:26

a progressive brain condition that thought

52:28

to be caused by repeated blows to the head

52:30

and repeated episodes of concussion that's why

52:33

football players need a v be very

52:35

careful once they've taken one too many hits to

52:37

that to you know their helmet area we

52:40

don't know anything about what

52:42

could have been repeatedly hitting them over their head

52:45

una hasn't really spoken to that and so

52:47

we don't know it was

52:49

a physical blow to the head cause this sort

52:51

of situation or if it was this crime or some

52:53

conflation there in but either way

52:56

policed actually dismissed una

52:58

claims as there was no evidence to back

53:00

up her story and police were offering

53:02

reward money to anybody with further information

53:04

on bella so it's possible that una made

53:07

up this story in hopes of making money off

53:09

of it what if jack

53:11

ma said really went through all this

53:13

i think the main hang up his the

53:16

coroner's report and the

53:18

to his brain and it missing

53:21

an association to the rest of the story she might just

53:23

be using the truth yeah

53:25

builds a fantastic narrative

53:27

i think that

53:28

more for the part for me he

53:31

had so much go to the point where he

53:33

went insane the don't

53:35

understand why

53:37

she was left their their yeah mean isn't

53:40

because or when i say anything

53:42

right to the narrative there is that like

53:45

he's alive shoved

53:47

into a tree what an accident

53:49

a murder or anything like that but

53:51

that point i why would you get

53:53

home or went to see anything that

53:57

by the jump minimal

53:59

that you've the job for me to be able

54:02

make that narrative

54:03

have any sense to me yeah

54:06

i don't understand granted

54:08

maybe he just left her there

54:10

and then was like oh my goodness i

54:12

never went through with that that situation

54:15

this is so weird to like i went

54:17

insane because i killed person

54:20

but i never went back he there's there's you could just

54:22

add some a different ways yeah it all things

54:24

considered the motive is there for owner

54:26

to kind of

54:28

the that white lie on a

54:30

kind of history of

54:31

though

54:32

sanity with her husband whatever and kind of

54:34

just like throw him under the bus to

54:36

maybe make the buck postmortem there

54:40

lack of connection to whatever

54:42

minimal evidence does exist does call

54:45

the whole story into question but an

54:47

interesting lead nonetheless to at langley know

54:49

completely that is where that

54:51

particular theory dies off but

54:53

following the dismissal of una story

54:55

and that theory german

54:57

gestapo yosef jacobs

55:00

brought new information to the table just

55:02

real quick to stop oh you haven't heard of

55:04

that kind title or that nomenclature

55:07

it's essentially a secret police organization employing

55:09

underhanded or terroristic methods

55:12

against persons suspected of disloyalty

55:14

not usually a term of endearment not

55:16

really i have a group of individuals you

55:19

want to be associated with yeah yeah

55:21

cubs i was captured and arrested

55:23

after breaking his ankle while parachuting into

55:26

cambridge sure in nineteen forty one

55:29

we found a photo of the german actress and

55:31

cabaret singer clara bow or

55:33

lay in his pockets so

55:36

now we have basically someone who's parachuting illegal into

55:38

the arrested

55:40

who's this photo questioned about

55:42

that photo and why he had it with him jack have

55:44

said that barely

55:45

the and him were actually lovers and

55:48

she had been recruited as a spy by the

55:50

nazi regime barely also

55:52

parachuted into the west midlands nineteen forty

55:54

one and then disappeared though

55:56

he's basically building a case that clara bow

55:58

or lay is actually the the

56:01

on fella now we're talking about which is

56:03

interesting the names aren't the same regular yeah

56:05

so she parachuted in with him and then this

56:08

story led some to believe that this

56:11

clara bow or less might be the woman

56:13

una had been writing about

56:16

the like that jax model

56:18

or hills that she wasn't

56:20

informants for the nazi party to

56:22

find out where these remission so how agree

56:24

adding yeah ready to people

56:26

and in bad have a connection

56:29

to the first theory that's one of the things that happens with

56:31

these theories that they like build on each other and so

56:33

they feel discreet but then they borrow

56:35

from each other so possibility

56:37

hear that this is the woman that una was referring

56:39

to either way barilla was

56:41

born in nineteen of six which

56:43

would have made her thirty five years old at the time of

56:45

the death or well if the binds

56:47

hers and that's the corner at time

56:50

and the medical individual saying

56:52

like outside you're into the country

56:54

then parachuted the hirschorn out and

56:56

like a spy a so yeah and

56:58

i'm sure that being an actress a german

57:01

actress have helped her melvin

57:03

to regular the regular populace

57:05

maybe affect an english accent

57:08

be able to procure a job be able like start

57:10

to cozy up to working

57:12

at munitions plants such as jack

57:15

ma said that's interesting news

57:17

articles also reported that barilla had a sudden

57:19

end to her career in nineteen

57:22

forty one home on the money

57:24

or man is a narrow

57:26

literally news articles about this and her

57:29

career ending the same year that she

57:31

supposedly jumped into cambridgeshire as

57:34

a spy just went missing in her

57:36

or or just sudden end of career

57:38

that no one really followed up on her been

57:40

missing but instead just i guess

57:42

or careers ended in she's gone by a retired

57:45

the by and this theory

57:47

was debunked by the fact that when people

57:49

looked into a bowel it was around five ten

57:52

a solid an hour

57:55

that's a good amount yeah day

57:57

my only bella but but up into

57:59

this post

57:59

the

58:00

it felt very very rare

58:02

until the very possible oh pretty

58:05

on point then in

58:07

two thousand and sixteen it was discovered that clara barrels

58:10

actually died in berlin hospital

58:12

in of nineteen forty two further proving

58:15

that she was not the mysterious bell have found in the

58:17

which elm but of course as is

58:19

normal for were read web we're going to discuss

58:21

all the details right read discuss all

58:23

the series

58:24

that have

58:25

once been active in are now dead

58:27

or are still active in that one has thankfully

58:30

come to a close we're a little bit more understanding

58:32

all my budget the understand and mean

58:34

that right there was it was time to get a

58:36

pretty oh yeah a man a

58:39

very quickly it

58:41

it rightly of hours i know this

58:43

this in this it's not mean that ten inches that's

58:46

a huge every different says like

58:48

oh and years ago i may we are now

58:50

is ernie shrink deeds with decomposes

58:52

lights and decomposing i've i'm

58:55

like ten inches by adults

58:57

with curious as to why a lot

58:59

ride i'd also be curious if is actors had

59:02

the same kind of tea hey you

59:04

know i know that's a thing to you would totally

59:06

know the chair lot i recognize a smile

59:08

anywhere but the i mean it's nice

59:11

to discuss a theory because for many years

59:13

right this was pretty thoroughly

59:15

thought to be the answer

59:18

ah shit

59:20

our doing that wouldn't be

59:22

why was i thought to business

59:24

the answer for so long because and you can just

59:26

tell kids matchup

59:28

yeah that's that's interesting certainly the how we

59:30

know when the theory was debunked by the height christian

59:33

that's one piece i'm curious about everything

59:36

else lines of so interesting li that

59:38

area of with you that your mind so eager

59:40

for the answer wants to disbelieve it

59:43

you know there are still so many other questions on a

59:45

nursery go this is an actress

59:47

so you would just tell the teeth boom

59:50

that away yeah

59:52

yeah

59:54

this even

59:55

that made it beyond right the

59:57

to vote have had some bragg shops only

1:00:00

certain some recent success suffering

1:00:02

a bunch famous i gotta i gotta look into this

1:00:04

officer like hold on the see the smile this

1:00:07

isn't the one right done time

1:00:10

improved to be us very that late

1:00:12

and i want to know for our ones like this

1:00:14

the main theory like right wars rest

1:00:16

for that

1:00:17

yeah or it a bad

1:00:19

the mystery of subtle also feel like if she was

1:00:21

well enough known as an actress the

1:00:23

height thing when it popped out to but a you know

1:00:25

rises everything becomes clear in

1:00:28

hindsight i'm sure on fear history if it ever

1:00:30

become solved

1:00:31

will become clear in hindsight yeah

1:00:33

it could be very simple you know

1:00:36

it looks as if in nineteen forty one

1:00:38

there were interrogation reports

1:00:40

where people were talking about clara's okay

1:00:42

all right so

1:00:44

most people were right on the money and

1:00:46

it wasn't the i misspoke was

1:00:48

not strongly believe for years but

1:00:50

rather question immediately yeah

1:00:54

haha , my bad record

1:00:56

of they did they due diligence

1:00:58

yeah so those are two i mean

1:01:01

depending on how you feel about some yeah otherwise

1:01:03

solid series because there's because story

1:01:06

but you look a little deeper that's when

1:01:08

it quickly falls that is

1:01:10

a theory moving to a little bit more of

1:01:12

a fantastical one this one's literally

1:01:14

about witchcraft and if you know

1:01:16

anything about witchcraft whether the salem witch

1:01:18

trials or all the stuff

1:01:20

that went down across the pond

1:01:23

in europe it has a very problematic

1:01:25

history centered around fear of the

1:01:27

unknown and also a lot of prejudice

1:01:30

regarding women yeah let's just say like it

1:01:32

is and so that we

1:01:34

are of that will play into what went

1:01:36

down here so with that said let's dive

1:01:38

into this theory around witchcraft

1:01:40

because highly woods had an

1:01:42

ancient history the

1:01:44

very same thing witchcraft local

1:01:47

journalists donald mccormick wrote in nineteen

1:01:49

sixty eight about the commons in the area

1:01:51

saying this quote there was an ancient

1:01:53

tradition that the spirit of a dead which could

1:01:55

be imprisoned the hollow of a tree

1:01:58

and thus preventing from reading

1:01:59

any more harm in the world

1:02:02

course we know now the great hindsight

1:02:05

in scientific understanding that all of this

1:02:07

is very very silly zip but

1:02:09

it doesn't stop people of the time from believing

1:02:11

he sort of things are man like is

1:02:14

is it oh

1:02:17

miller her body in there

1:02:20

leaving man or there were

1:02:22

just inspired

1:02:24

right ah either way

1:02:27

not going right now integrated all so

1:02:29

professor margaret marie an

1:02:31

anthropologist at university college

1:02:33

london suggested that which

1:02:35

l murder might simply be the result

1:02:37

of witchcraft since the name

1:02:40

raised concerns

1:02:42

hello donna is a type of poisonous

1:02:44

plant associated with dark magic

1:02:46

some sources claim that the tree bella was

1:02:48

found in was actually witch hazel

1:02:51

still spelled which to be wise c h

1:02:53

but witch hazel a tree that is often

1:02:55

mistaken for a which elm and the names

1:02:57

are sometimes used interchangeably and which

1:03:00

home at associations with witchcraft as

1:03:02

well and that's why sometimes they get completed

1:03:05

which is who committed crimes i

1:03:07

will put that kind of in very heavy quotation

1:03:09

marks were supposedly imprisoned trees

1:03:13

which elms which were commonly associated

1:03:15

with dark magic again because of the

1:03:18

idea that it would withheld withhold

1:03:20

they're kind of jam

1:03:23

no

1:03:24

in their essence their power whenever

1:03:26

my and follow them from the great

1:03:28

beyond there's apparently a ritual

1:03:30

ceremony in witchcraft known as the

1:03:33

hand of glory as much as a something

1:03:35

with the hands right because

1:03:37

at hand was missing the point the

1:03:39

ceremony the person being sacrificed his

1:03:41

hanged has their hand cut off

1:03:44

and burned from a candle made of the south from their

1:03:46

own hand weren't wilde

1:03:49

i don't know how anyone even on the you to sort of stars

1:03:51

you even madelyn

1:03:53

milk thing all right the

1:03:56

here in the him that was located thirteen

1:03:59

pieces from tree

1:03:59

right in in an in various pieces

1:04:02

was an ancient custom used in the

1:04:04

execution of which the could

1:04:06

as to why the hand was found in pieces

1:04:09

around the tree it was to be

1:04:11

gotten to i wildlife whereas

1:04:13

the body might not have a i think

1:04:16

me and i'd known

1:04:18

and i do anything but like

1:04:20

the moon

1:04:21

i got you on earth ah

1:04:25

you would think that

1:04:27

we would know the answer

1:04:30

to that piece

1:04:31

the bigger the pick up their hands you'd probably

1:04:33

seized from scratch marks on the phone

1:04:36

the very good point

1:04:38

that when you go okay this kind

1:04:41

of leans towards that theory

1:04:43

if there was in

1:04:45

how right laden

1:04:48

and then he i was just nod like dot on

1:04:50

our nature re re animals

1:04:52

animals it's like picked away like took

1:04:54

the hand yeah

1:04:57

and i

1:04:58

i wouldn't think that they would be so

1:05:01

precise as to

1:05:03

now leave any type of markings on

1:05:06

the

1:05:07

echoing that the find that

1:05:09

out been you can kind of figure out whether or not just as i

1:05:11

go right a which thing i

1:05:13

mean when it comes to himself the professor

1:05:15

that i was referring to martin margaret marie

1:05:17

pretty convinced that

1:05:20

this person was in fact a victim

1:05:22

of a ritual held by and inexperienced

1:05:25

a cultist into your point it

1:05:27

would stand to reason especially if they were inexperienced

1:05:29

but either way that the wrist area

1:05:31

if they could at least find the hand of the bone

1:05:34

or at least if they look at the skeleton and

1:05:36

it looked as the

1:05:37

the

1:05:38

for the most down point of the risk that

1:05:40

some sort of markings would be writing it's

1:05:43

well that's what really bothers me so much him out

1:05:45

about missing that skeleton is we can't

1:05:48

in retrospect going look at oh yeah

1:05:50

that's true man if it doesn't fit

1:05:52

this occultists kind of ritual

1:05:55

yeah i'm sure that you said the hands

1:05:57

really scared i was like why in the usa maybe

1:06:00

was like wildlife like a good point right

1:06:03

but it was it was definitely good of you to kind

1:06:05

of pin that and bring it back as i was honestly

1:06:07

i was forgot about it because i got in the throes

1:06:09

of the a weird area i'm like wait

1:06:11

a minute instantly or like that's weird yeah

1:06:13

i yeah arm is as

1:06:16

while i use outside of their own even that wasn't

1:06:18

in the name is a nugget the and so

1:06:20

murray's theory was popular in local newspapers

1:06:22

and eventually led police to the

1:06:24

murder of someone else the murder of charles

1:06:27

walton whose body was found nearby

1:06:29

here's the pitchfork but the theory

1:06:32

was soon after dismissed by police that's

1:06:34

a whole other kind of murder i'm going to

1:06:36

dive into but and i actually don't know

1:06:38

about i'll admit but christians

1:06:40

was charles waltz in ah in

1:06:42

the similar area is our they mean by nearby

1:06:44

and was also a victim of this potential

1:06:47

ritual is how they were able to kind of

1:06:49

the been on this or like are people going

1:06:52

like this spot right

1:06:54

they're going to go hunt that that lords manner

1:06:56

and she has the like

1:06:59

your lord of this manner

1:07:01

you gotta be like come on top

1:07:04

how can people my ride rise

1:07:06

in the forest that stuff my know they

1:07:08

get rid of it right said

1:07:11

the were using in the tip most terrible way

1:07:13

what a weird diving the deal

1:07:16

what would you turn the if you've added the forest for

1:07:18

the sake of stopping this stopping

1:07:20

these rituals stopping these new

1:07:22

mean he's hiding what would you do

1:07:24

productively with that would ah

1:07:26

some arm land or or

1:07:29

offense posey know what were nice

1:07:31

you can make our army farmland army me like

1:07:33

launch across apple trees and sort

1:07:38

, turn the energy around around i

1:07:40

had all had are

1:07:42

just army of the i it would make

1:07:45

i know make whistler syrian

1:07:47

we are and i was dry eyes

1:07:50

or hands on the scenario the runway drive

1:07:52

us further on that when i like you

1:07:54

wanna go there are like you or why not represented

1:07:57

by a car the lion a

1:08:00

cab ago when i was doing oh my goodness

1:08:03

and even , real story

1:08:06

about charles wilson about i i i i don't know

1:08:08

much about that as the name rings bell certainly

1:08:11

the pitchforks situation but

1:08:13

the looking at a charles walden so he

1:08:15

was murdered in february nineteen forty five

1:08:17

he was sounds

1:08:19

in the fields close to a village that

1:08:21

is about forty ish miles

1:08:23

from hagley

1:08:25

okay okay no i'm not

1:08:27

that close in on that close

1:08:30

it seemed to the just the circumstances

1:08:32

surrounding the murder unfortunately get more

1:08:35

or

1:08:37

reminiscence okay you roka

1:08:39

info with this the gentleman that was i'm

1:08:42

in a chimney

1:08:43

now you're going to feel okay oh you did

1:08:45

say that i'm sorry there in there is

1:08:48

another of

1:08:50

mystery a murder mystery kind of thing with

1:08:52

a body

1:08:53

the chimney

1:08:54

that's a story for another day but

1:08:56

anyway this theory was soon dismissed by police

1:08:59

interestingly enough though i

1:09:01

gotta admit as much as it has a problematic

1:09:04

history there victims to

1:09:06

this problematic history yeah and we

1:09:08

could be looking right at one it it

1:09:10

really fits the

1:09:12

oldest ritual that's a professor

1:09:15

margaret married are outliers unfortunate

1:09:17

cause they examine

1:09:18

the remain billie

1:09:21

yeah mean you just take a look at it those

1:09:23

are the times user and of unfortunate events

1:09:26

that happened during these times that's

1:09:28

one thing you look at lily

1:09:30

from and thought off when we see there's any

1:09:32

like

1:09:34

scratch marks chippings at the bone right

1:09:37

yeah , one other quick thing about walden

1:09:40

so as we said you sound kind of stabs

1:09:43

at stabs to the pinned to the ground by fits

1:09:45

work this and that apparently

1:09:47

staking someone to the ground

1:09:50

is a traditional way of killing way which

1:09:52

and making sure that their powers drain into

1:09:54

the earth

1:09:55

i'd i'd let me to mail is one aussies

1:09:58

is or whatever which

1:09:59

there's are out there gretel okay

1:10:02

there's which is kicking not

1:10:04

not would not in the way the hereafter i'm national

1:10:07

day full respect to actual with

1:10:09

which crown in the

1:10:11

and on that anyone proven any

1:10:13

of this to play but also what i really want to in

1:10:15

after his his these supposed

1:10:18

rituals and traditions they seem all over the place

1:10:20

and they just seem like good to go attack

1:10:22

someone

1:10:24

united and yell at you notice down

1:10:26

to pittsburgh get back to work know it sounds

1:10:28

like sounds like a sounds someone

1:10:30

who suspected on the person

1:10:33

of being a witch the abdomen

1:10:35

that lane and then why

1:10:37

ah this is their soul of

1:10:39

back to the arise that's

1:10:42

not only did i have motive spray it

1:10:44

was okay motive and it with

1:10:46

reason these are immortal your life he just

1:10:48

died in an eye on the way officer that's

1:10:51

why stabbed him into the ground because that

1:10:53

way their essence and soul go into

1:10:55

the earth and protect us

1:10:57

the

1:10:58

though with witchcraft slightly behind

1:11:00

us now let's talk about some of the smaller

1:11:03

local theories because there are a few

1:11:05

and of urban folklore kind

1:11:07

of pieces that might help kind of saw this or

1:11:09

at least some of the stories that tumble around the local

1:11:12

villages and and whatnot so the

1:11:14

used to a prostitute in the area who works

1:11:16

hagley wrote back in the late thirties

1:11:18

actually named bella bella

1:11:21

disappeared in nineteen forty one the same year

1:11:23

james webster the previously mentioned

1:11:25

medical examiner presumed which elm bella

1:11:28

had died

1:11:29

though it lines up with the disappeared

1:11:31

in addition to disappearing and ninety forty

1:11:34

one the same year that the which l bella

1:11:36

supposedly died the hagley village

1:11:38

locals claimed that romani

1:11:40

people used to camp out in hagley woods

1:11:42

during nineteen forty one so to

1:11:44

expand upon their story and

1:11:47

to at least create

1:11:49

an answer out of this story some of those

1:11:51

people theorize that perhaps she was camping

1:11:53

with their money people or that bella was

1:11:55

killed by the romani people and then

1:11:57

subsequently ended up in the tree

1:11:59

interesting so

1:12:01

there are people that camped out around that

1:12:04

area

1:12:06

which is weird i didn't like fire property

1:12:09

that that also because

1:12:11

her business

1:12:13

right it is that's why she was with these strangers

1:12:15

potentially potential yeah so that's

1:12:18

one local story another one's

1:12:20

even shorter that bella was a local

1:12:22

barmaid had been killed by a foreign military

1:12:24

member some suspecting this person

1:12:27

have also been the father of her child's the

1:12:29

that the medical expert james webster said

1:12:32

she had one row and then a third

1:12:34

local story says that bella was actually a homeless

1:12:36

woman that had no order

1:12:38

to report her missing there's no

1:12:40

answer to why she went missing how

1:12:42

she was but only that the

1:12:45

woman in the tree was a homeless person and

1:12:47

had no records and know loved ones to reporter

1:12:49

in why we have an unsolved mystery be

1:12:52

some other less local theories

1:12:54

but are still kind of small i've heard

1:12:57

are that because this area

1:12:59

was definitely wrought with

1:13:01

the action in world war two one

1:13:03

of the series i've heard about is that there were

1:13:06

air raids going on going area that

1:13:09

during one of these sirens or during

1:13:11

one of raids or what have you in

1:13:13

a desperate attempt to seek shelter why

1:13:15

ever she was there whoever she was a

1:13:17

person dot industry

1:13:20

was the only form of interesting

1:13:22

theory yeah that she climbed in and then

1:13:24

was unable to escape again but

1:13:27

much shorter theory but it is something i've

1:13:29

read about

1:13:30

oh man do you

1:13:32

mind that by was or narrate

1:13:34

that year

1:13:35

oh wow

1:13:37

depending on the range ray i write

1:13:39

predated to be thirty five is to

1:13:42

get accurate but a range of was

1:13:44

like when he bowed forty

1:13:46

million your gather could have been a ton of air raids

1:13:49

the

1:13:50

well the question in the end is

1:13:53

who put dollar in the which on air

1:13:55

who wrote these messages are these messages

1:13:58

as viral attempts to continue to keep

1:13:59

the story alive with this person

1:14:02

a victim of ritualistic sacrifice or

1:14:04

other dark sinister means course

1:14:07

if it was anything in

1:14:09

the realm of murder is done right idea

1:14:11

goes without saying war was it some

1:14:13

sort of

1:14:14

the accident

1:14:15

the very interesting predicament for an hour

1:14:18

but really the the closer

1:14:20

you look at this case the more questions arise

1:14:23

and it's still very very fast in case which the

1:14:25

english countryside in the world we're interested

1:14:28

to day preserve couple of areas

1:14:30

or i could just scratch off the list for me by gutters

1:14:33

there's still so many i know i

1:14:35

can and i could work here are muslims

1:14:37

that he still ah i'm or

1:14:39

the second very eyes don't think works

1:14:42

for me the

1:14:44

jack going man or is my right yeah

1:14:47

ah jack ma said right working

1:14:49

at a munitions factory was and

1:14:51

then suddenly working with the couple folks

1:14:54

from the netherlands who were spies right

1:14:56

out with south

1:14:57

the

1:14:59

the whole which which

1:15:01

brought ritual starfleet

1:15:03

he that lining up and down

1:15:06

and are they deserve

1:15:07

there's a couple things of like i hope that

1:15:09

doesn't quite work for me but then also

1:15:11

a handful or i'd scope move the i

1:15:13

that be or that be i

1:15:16

mean the misery for a reason i the local

1:15:18

stuff though the like it's

1:15:21

just gossip but

1:15:23

maybe is because there's nothing else tied

1:15:25

to them you know we had a couple

1:15:27

these our i'm pretty

1:15:29

rich in detail right

1:15:31

and and there's a cure is like couple one liners

1:15:34

as to to me ominous thing in my like isis

1:15:37

locals you know just

1:15:39

gossiping right i mean they're

1:15:42

written detail that week

1:15:44

the answers right and so yeah

1:15:47

i think it is just gossip though for the local

1:15:49

it we'd be remiss to not write about him but yeah

1:15:51

i think it's just locals who are much more

1:15:53

intimately aware of these details that

1:15:55

something that sinister happened in their backyard

1:15:58

and they they to

1:16:00

resolve the i mean human nature is

1:16:02

very interesting and with something dark happens

1:16:05

it is natural to want to figure out

1:16:07

whatever it was raining and your brain kind

1:16:09

of goes through some jumps and logic just

1:16:12

to resolve it into become okay with

1:16:14

it so you can move on yeah

1:16:16

with that said this is the top of the month

1:16:19

happy august everybody who we're starting

1:16:21

our unsettling forced months and with that

1:16:23

we're going to continue next week

1:16:26

on the english countryside so hey task

1:16:28

force members over in england were not letting you up light we're

1:16:30

going hard for ,

1:16:33

render all or horse a

1:16:35

if you have any stories from these destinations please let

1:16:37

us know if you've to these places let us know would

1:16:39

love to hear from it but otherwise we got bones

1:16:42

of other hole on their four oh yeah

1:16:44

i think like this was going to be interesting

1:16:47

i know nothing about it but isn't just some

1:16:49

new ways really are a mystery but

1:16:51

i mean you could go

1:16:53

experiencing my i did we

1:16:55

were talking about or as heinz a weird

1:16:58

stuff that can be going to die alone of for

1:17:00

as in colts rituals and who

1:17:02

knows i don't doubt say that my by

1:17:05

it i'm all see what happens oh yeah

1:17:07

we're going to cover the spread for sir chris

1:17:09

what else we what other force we have later this month

1:17:12

we're the black forest we got

1:17:14

we we have rendlesham

1:17:16

we have the black forest and then we have and

1:17:19

on how to pronounce it that tunguska tunguska

1:17:23

we have some good damn on you're right they

1:17:25

do rains not all a

1:17:28

new so anyway credo

1:17:30

see right back here next week

1:17:32

another mystery in or