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Is a Rooster
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Teeth production?
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It
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was known as the world's most secure prison,
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The Rock. sitting
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in the san francisco bay surrounded by
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the freezing currents of the pacific ocean it
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was a fortress from which there was no
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escape but on june twelfth
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nineteen sixty two for
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men hatched a plan to do just that
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today we explore the compelling story
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of the escape from alcatraz this
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redwall
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welcome back to another mystery monday
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task force i'm your host have a college and with me
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as always alfredo di as dude
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you talk in my home town you're talking
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the rock which are my ss and not
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dwayne the rock johnson all those i
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won't probably also be inescapable yeah no
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that makes and know you're talking about talking
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very famous prison famous prison long
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island in the bay area and
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it's what your this this was in nineteen
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sixty two or so when the heyday
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of alcatraz i mean i start a sorry
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a lot of alcatraz because like like twenty years
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later there was on former
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general francis hmong who
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took a bunch hostages on the rock
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and then threatened to actually
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induce like chemical warfare upon
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like us soil and then that's when
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they had stanley goodspeed who was a bio
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chemical engineer way it was a
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lot are serious in missouri there and
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in john mason down
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with a former inmate in they had them
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come in lights that was the numbers guy
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right
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yeah the accountant years ago numbers
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the know why you wanna go i'm surprised you remember
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that guy compelling be for history yeah
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i was like me august because i lived
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in the bay area i know i was he's gotta
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know crazy was my mentor was taught
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in the schools ryan right what was
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that what was the drill
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when this was going down you know they'd say yellow alert
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the know in uganda
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the golden rules i won't there
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was is mostly just docked in covers
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there's really much the will like we didn't find out later
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on and so like you know if the chemical dispersants
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of the air there's nothing we can really do
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that ain't a question john
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mason stanley goodspeed stopped
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the the rope and as a woman
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were national here the movie
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or we talk about black ops
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can't call of duty
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which which of these i don't i don't know these day
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while a historian michael bay
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did a as high as yeah to the
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, iraq ah
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or yourself and i was browsing
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on christmas every item for like
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of you know you did a very legitimate
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reason to pull it off for the first off all
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was real enough that i was like okay no no no
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this is something off of
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an omelette of runs into the rock sort of an february
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were like oh
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yeah darryl there's no no no
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you know what we do here on rooster teeth
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nine one movie part has out mysteries
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username and i was like a
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sounds million any remorse like he took him
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off his own like the when
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you say good spiegel like the whole on them
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again then i then i heard mace and then
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i started going with this call of duty black ops like
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what's happening are if he saw encounter for yes
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so this is a pretty infamous case
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i'm sure a lot of people know about it but there's a lot
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of details that you know that's what were your for granted
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on cover all those filthy dirty details
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but we're in a walk through this in a in a particular order
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a lot of people dive right into the strategizing
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the plane and how it all went together we're gonna walk
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through exactly what went down that
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night now guards prospective go
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into the investigation kind of they
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normal person literally in
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the sixties would have lived this and
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then kind of looking back on history
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goes through however they actually shook
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out there is a fourth individual
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that is a part of this three person
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party at what kind of talk about
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and that's how we got all these
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the information yeah says to the rock
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was was a be inescapable
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yes the alcatraz prison
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was said to be completely inescapable and
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it was because the used to be a for
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used to be a for because right sf was
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definitely a military base
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i mean you can still see a lot of those bunkers to this
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day i we have like four mason annoyance
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of this like yeah yeah and
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so that was remodeled into this prison and
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then are obviously the very very
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cold waters that would get into like maybe
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the forties and the tai fung of i
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like lawyer out and i you know
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two miles off the closest coast sometimes
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it's it's been said that great whites have been seen
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in the bay yep or that they at least
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they don't live there but they come paris yelling professor
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so there's a lot of reasons why this this
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place is inescapable frail
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a good luck swimming two miles inflict
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occurring in freezing cold temperature
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at my now people will
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be able to make that absolutely not yeah in
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fact and we're not going to go into all the stories
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but i think it's sad about fifty some odd
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people over the course of alcatraz
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as history to have tried to escape many
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of them failed many of them also
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had passed away in trying to do so
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so these three that we're talking about here today
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in particular are the standout case
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just due to the very nature of not
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knowing how it went did they make
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it right did they not make it in if they didn't
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how that go down all of the questions we will
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talk about okay but the let's dive into
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other me wind your mind back to june
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twelfth and nineteen sixty two the guards
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of alcatraz we're going about their normal routine
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in the morning checking bags and when
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they checked in on these three particular convicts
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they found that after prodding them several times
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they weren't waking up then they poked
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one of them in the head with their stick reading through the bars
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the tumbles this fake
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head as it hits the floor these three
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convex for john anglin and his
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brother clarence as well as frank morris
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to talk about frank morris back
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in january of nineteen sixty is when he
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arrived at alcatraz after being convicted
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of bank robbery burglary the and
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repeated attempts to escape various prisons
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and various other crimes as well in fact
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he had previously broken out of a
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louisiana prison where he had been serving
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time for a bank robbery and was
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then subsequently sent to alcatraz because
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of this history of driveway get a
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man first off wouldn't
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do anything woods and me to prison
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they'll be like i'm looking for the best behavior
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early out sort of situation i like
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five hundred i just ordinary as the
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a million i'm i'm
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always acting like i'm never wanna do anything
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that you know like my us are
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okay so your rules before punish right
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on it might if i was the be sent
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to prison her
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i wouldn't even know where to begin to try and break
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out list i see how do you break out of a bruising
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that is a very good question that like looking
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back into the past and thinking about it you think it's
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fanciful cause you seen it move in movies
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and like right that's too good to be reality
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but we'll dive into how they did it at alcatraz
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but i'm the same i'm in a nurse
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a boat where do you begin word you begin
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i guess i would try to
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the the timing of the guards in the shift
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say i were the cameras are and
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then see like what time so i
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kinda have to myself and weird
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the whole thing for a fence side so i don't
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like well hunters have no
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idea how you just going on is going to risk escapist
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fortress that's built to contain me right
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or and and also like i'm kinda glad that
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the whole like making a little dummy
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body and your bad as following
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that actually have to go allowance you have the movies
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and i go from my to modify it all yeah
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and there is a lot going on with this escape
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and for any of the things that are a visual
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as always going to post photos of those
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at red web potter you can check us out and watch
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this on you tube at
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redwood pot on there as well and we will
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provide those visuals but yeah i
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mean maybe i'm in the camp where i
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and of overthinking it and not having been in a prison
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right so i think you know very jack sparrow
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marooned on an island like limits harvests
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my back karen round up a couple
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sea turtles you know like that's where my
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mind starts going to start thinking like ah
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maybe if the moon phase is just so like maybe
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i'm just overcook it it you know i think the
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army i think you need overcook it maybe
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it's best to just under think it maybe maybe
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just think like justified are just as regular
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phone for it that you know they got faults
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they got blind spots are they are thousand for
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say they might be able to be bribed even
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i mean come on a guy be corrupt prison up their
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absolute some people that are higher up
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in the crime industry have a little
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bit of it is easier behind
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bars
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this is what chris i'm near me there are just
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for scrutiny been elysium but in the clink like
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we don't need to dive into my history has ever
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since , was always jesus as
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opposed to say we got an incisive right
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okay for arnold you're going to be better about
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vet and ssssss are
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we did that's where i liked about all
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right let's jump into the other two that we're going
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to talk about kids again there is a fourth i'm not a growing
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them but let's dive into the other two so later that
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year a man named john england was also
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sent to alcatraz along with his brother
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clearance who then joined later
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they're in early nineteen sixty one
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very briefly all kind of talk about these
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folks so january seventeenth acting fifty
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eight johnny clarence england along with her older
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brother alfred all robbed
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alabama's bank of columbia the
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use plastic firearms in order to escape with
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over eighteen thousand dollars in cash
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this way they were all caught and arrested five days
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later in ohio they all three went to
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prison john and clearance ended up
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going to prison in kansas where clearance attempt
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to escape by smuggling himself out
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into enormous boxes that
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also tried to run from chain gangs
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and in nineteen sixties eventually all
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these things collided to make prison
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officials essentially say okay we're going to send
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these two brothers in particular over to alcatraz
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where they will not be able to realize
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their dreams of escape yeah and then alfred
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will be a tertiary brother out
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in the wild of the prison lance
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so that's where we get the three that's
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how they all arrived at alcatraz
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and putting to the chase i mean
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they all three previously knew each other
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from shared imprisonment at
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the atlanta penitentiary of
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course the to were brothers so they right and
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again jumping to the case the three were
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placed in adjacent cells and alcatraz
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which gave them the your ability to talk
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and discuss and plan what the
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be
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philly yeah yeah because
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not only subarus it's like okay
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you have a bunch of people are you going to be comfortable
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because they're sitting next to there's an
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jamais whatever right there is a good
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they could plan for like brawls reno
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prison fighting cetera but these are
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people right who have actually
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tried to escape from a prison you putting him next
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to each other
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we are you mad not everybody at alcatraz
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has some sort of history to their all their
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yeah so i think the two brothers been next
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to each other is a bit egregious that's where i start
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to go okay that is silly to they
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definitely know each other i saw a guy just
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especially if it's like people that i've tried to escape
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any know each other none of the next to each other
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right oh yes it just kind of like you know what i'll be
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safe who know just in gray's lake
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sure you can soften the of yard
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time outside time they're gonna talk to put
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it there literally next to each other it's whispered
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to each other all night as leans back and
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forth and maybe i don't know depending on the other
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cells are and stuff like that but like i
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, i know as a precaution how to done
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that also eighteen grand immensely
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since they're mad whenever my
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good as being
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granted being like or only get to suffer for
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years of thing let's of thing it back on their
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cells because a lot of people like to say that they replace
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together and they were but there's a lot of other
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nuance within that i'm not sure how their
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cells were when they first got there but
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i do know that and will
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get into the planning and and all the plot development
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but jumping to that kind
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of points they knew after kind of
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knowing this prison a little bit that there was a
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a great on the roofs the shaft
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that went up to the roof they had a weak spot
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and again cutting to the chase they knew that
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and so they all individually put in a petition
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or a form to have
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a cell swat and all of their
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asks to move to different cell were
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permitted they were granted so that's
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where it really becomes agree discuss not only did
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they do finally put them all together they
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they were put into the prison and eventually they were like
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we all want to go to cellblock be essentially
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was cool got it and
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then they approved it and off they went so now
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they're all together that is so
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either altogether than a move together so
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they weren't altogether out and that's
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where i get a little hairy on my knowledge there
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i had merit but a lot
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of that's what i'm trying to save to save of people just gloss
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over how they kind of came
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to be at in the same cell blocks near
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each other
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it because a petition to have their cells moved
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and has to be swapped out in the in
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they were approved even more insane
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more insane subarus is going to be the
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main lesson here right
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wing underwood reasons whose reputation is
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in escape ability yeah the guards might
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let their guard down
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i would think so as like it if i was
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a garden a prisoner as a super high
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tag and cameras
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, this and mad and
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and cdr like technology
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in that unites prior let my guard
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down a bentley i you know tax cuts
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figured out play you know it's
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very easy to hack stuff
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oh yes and you really i mean another lesson
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here that we're going to start diving into even further
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is trusting your
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inmates
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there there seems to be a trend that we're going to
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get even more into where their trusting inmates
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who have a history of trying to escape
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you should be giving autonomy the
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pretty help but let's get back
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to the case or morris lead john
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and clarence in plotting their escape or
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that's what people tend to believe because he
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was coined as the intellect he's the one who had
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the highest i q of the group in fact that
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it is said his i q was as high as one hundred and thirty
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five oh so he is
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a is pretty smart okay so that
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makes me feel better about going
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into if i was or go to prison now
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hamby like how do i even started this guide us
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has a super high i q right so is
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is is be right already working right
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the when the guards eventually came to check their beds in
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the morning they were met instead
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by paper mushy dummies covered in flesh
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colored paints and real human hair so
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when they walked by at a glance it looks truly
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like them but it was just their head with pillows
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stuff that in bed covers all their
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hair is so who will get it all
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their like were the how they get up paying we're
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going to get of the how they got the paint how they may these hairs
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are the her came from at lower that where they
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physically went oh my god this is such a
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macgyver sort of situation i love
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it or may we just aged are so yeah
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well i didn't i never watched the show but i've heard of it so
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the prisoners essentially used toilet paper
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cement cardboard toothpastes
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and hair trimmings of course from the other
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prisoners found at the barbershop in order to make
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these heads and of course the prison immediately
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went into lockdown into search for these three
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dangerously skills prisoners in
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the search was in full force let's
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talk about the investigation what they
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found again we're walking through this as people living
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it at the time and then we'll walk back and get
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all those juicy details so
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after this lockdown the f b i was immediately
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contacted and they accessed nationwide
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records on the missing prisoners and there
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pretty large history of
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previous escape attempts all three
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of them had previous escape attempts as we
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can have outlined so they looked into that furthermore
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the f b i interviewed the various families of
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the missing inmates to compiled their identification
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records boat operators in the bay
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were asked to be on a lookout for debris
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or signs of their escape here's what
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the men look like here's what they might have on them
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etc let us know what you see now
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with that said it's a few interesting pieces
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of evidence were insects sound across
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the bay over the subsequent days and weeks
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of this escape attempt for people
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there is a packet of letters sealed in rubber and
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it did relate to the men there was
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also a paddle like piece of wood and
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rubber inner tubes that we're kind
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of in tatters they were it's wraps these i
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think the paddle was found near angel
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island which is nearby secondhand the
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rubber tube like scraps
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were found near the bridge there was
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also a homemade lies says that was
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found washed up on cronkite beach something
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to keep them afloat and they could tell because
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a lot of these materials seem to originate
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back from the prison the various
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pieces essentially said okay
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know they did make it out and at least
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into the water so this inspired a much more
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extensive search but unfortunately
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no other pieces were ever found in
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fact i do want to say i'm going off my memory
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here are the letters that were found
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i believe also with either within that same
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rubber on below or in a separate
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piece of rubber there was there was sound
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which had family matters i think some photos
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or other documentation related to the family so
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again to confirm that it was these three
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men that was something else that was phone
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so officials hoped that the england's
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other incarcerated brother alfred we
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talked about who was against housed
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in an alabama facility hopefully
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you know he would supply some answers hey
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you know your brother's better than anyone right
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maybe what's on their mind what would they be doing where
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could they be going all that
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sort of stuff but to their dismay
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alfred was supposedly electrocuted during
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an escape that he had attempted previously
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and so he took as little or as
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much information that is as he might have had
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on his brothers to the grays whoa
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yes the way so
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they went to go interview on whole know like yeah you tried
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to escape and unfortunately
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it was a fat electrified
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or did they just
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no peter was dumb but times are some really bad
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as a good question christened you know how alfred
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might have been electrocuted
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during his escape
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when it digging through the wall or i
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will doubled sectors i'm not entirely
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sure on the details okay
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in our filet maybe they are just
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hiding in images throughout life no
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pieces or something but then on an army
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knox as big enough in a has differently
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so like sections episodes like underground
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diet there could be air as you get hired
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out on but and that seems kind of risky
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and also one of them is smart
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enough to probably try and think of like
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or a trying time our high tide
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know that kinda stuff to make this swim in
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their journey easier by now
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they get such a difficult
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Thing to pull off like no, you're not only
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trying to break away from a prison and trying
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to swim to
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like the shore, get off of this island. And
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then on the flip side, like I'm sure they
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hunted him and through every resource at
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it like you said because you
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know, they marketed as like this and you
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know it as honest capable prison
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right it's , game of
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all had press grade three guys
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illusory i like ours are invite
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more alcatraz can be broken out of
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europe and that's maybe i was just saucer
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to everyone should label things with ultimatums
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i mean we go through unsinkable titanic
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when we know when we alcatraz
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as you know who knows
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yeah it's it's interesting thought because like
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right now you know the plan is hard to
19:17
conceive of with just some of the things they had
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like for example the or that they
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made was the scraps of would with some screws
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put together groceries and quick photos
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of with that look like that's what they sow
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wow they have oh that's
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really cool yeah so that was just floating off
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the coast their of nearby angel island
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of course all the authorities i mean
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the bureau of prison authorities the f b i
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alcatraz guards the coastguard
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everybody at this point is invested
19:44
in figuring out what's going on here and finding
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these men and so they started looking inward
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they sort of looking towards the inmates to see does
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anybody in here know what that plan
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might have been in this is where allen west
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comes into the story the fourth man
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with this group west
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the another prisoner at alcatraz that
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the three had met previously while incarcerated
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back in atlanta so west
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allen west had been a part
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of this whole strategizing he had
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helped devised plans as long
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as he could also be included within the
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plan to escape with the three whoa
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okay so now you're someone that has knowledge
20:19
on the and sound the inside for
20:22
thing possibly got debts
20:24
possibly got this will here's what happened so
20:26
the night of the escape west wasn't
20:28
able to make it out of his cell
20:30
in time
20:31
i'm a jump the to the conclusion eventually
20:34
he did make it out of a self made it up to the roof
20:36
by the time he was there the other three had left so
20:38
he said i guess i'm screwed
20:40
there's no way ominous ride the water he comes back
20:42
into his prison cell and decided at this point
20:45
i guess i'll just surrender the information i'll
20:47
i'll let him know what happened that's bad
20:49
because worth the
20:52
the brain them bring him back when
20:54
he surrendered always information your now
20:56
seen as the rat
20:58
Well, you better hope you get a a plea you
21:00
know, or is he feeding real
21:02
information to the guards the
21:05
question is
21:06
he looking for a plea deal with some of stuff?
21:08
i mean, or is he just trying to, you
21:11
know, I don't know. Just divert thermal.
21:13
from like a true stuff yeah well
21:16
i mean let's talk about the plan let's talk
21:18
about what allen west let them in on because
21:20
a lot of this is provable a lot of this
21:23
demonstrable due to the physical evidence there
21:25
in the prison the question remains as to
21:27
the plan outside of the prison but before
21:29
we continue christian yeah found
21:32
a little bit more on alfred he doesn't
21:34
say exactly any
21:36
more details about how he was electrocuted
21:38
i find is that you suppose
21:40
we haven't days before he was eligible for parole
21:43
and he would like to young but
21:46
family members the
21:48
arise that perhaps he was beaten to
21:50
death by prison guards were trying to get
21:52
information on ha
21:55
got it was only like unfortunate
21:57
timing married and also
21:59
his recent host the parole
22:02
why risk it days away your
22:04
writing there
22:05
without said let's talk about the plan and
22:07
again this is coming from west so allen
22:10
west told the authorities that he and the other
22:12
men had been working on their plan since
22:14
december of nineteen sixty one
22:16
so this was a long patiently laid
22:18
plans when one of them came across
22:20
some old saw blades was inspired
22:22
the idea of makeshift tools
22:25
though the pause for a second in
22:27
their cells were these little greats
22:30
hello the think there was this little kind
22:32
of sense that led to a breeze way
22:35
or causeway that ran behind the cells
22:37
oh that seems
22:40
Like it could be useful for people, trying to break out.
22:42
Is
22:44
that the room below it below?
22:46
It is actually there were so that's a different photo
22:48
that we're talking about. But that that's kind of
22:50
their workshop area that want to discuss the
22:52
plan was to make tools to
22:55
get through that said the event was about five
22:57
inches tall by nine inches wide so
22:59
not really enough for a grown man to get their
23:01
way through the idea was to
23:03
take things like spoons
23:06
from the kitchen in order to chisel
23:08
away at the plaster and that
23:10
the wall right his fans the bigger
23:12
but another thing that they did was they devised
23:15
a new tool they created a drill
23:17
powered by a vacuum cleaner motor
23:20
which enabled them to drill holes essentially around
23:22
the event where they could than weaken
23:24
the wall pull the whole thing off the wall
23:26
to create a huge hole in the wall
23:29
that they could then put it back so they now
23:31
had a door essentially that
23:33
allowed them to get back into the breeze way behind
23:35
it there was a small kind of graham's
23:38
mechanical alley behind these
23:41
these cells that they couldn't access it was
23:43
not darted because no one anticipated anybody
23:45
been able to get in there or not at all in this
23:47
is where kind of everything went down this
23:49
were allen west plan kind of fell apart
23:52
he also had drilled out his then
23:54
and again long story short his
23:57
kept falling out his kept becoming very
23:59
obvious and the didn't want the guards to see it
24:01
and so when he kind of days before
24:03
they'd decided to actually enact their
24:05
plan he had kind
24:08
of put some cement back in there in order to
24:10
hold it's temporarily
24:12
the somebody did too good of a job because when the night
24:14
came he couldn't get the great off
24:16
the wall on the other guys came up behind
24:18
it started taking it from behind it couldn't
24:21
get out slow he says he
24:23
was stuck in his room oh good answer some
24:25
of the quite as i have a manager
24:27
there are all able to get behind like through
24:29
the great by it was a whole like access
24:31
way that they can all like meet our yet same
24:34
and has insane which is why they wanted to be
24:36
in the same cell block right let
24:38
alone right next to each other and also have
24:40
violated them as easy to pass the
24:42
drill around her whenever the need
24:44
to yeah i'm sure they'd like deconstructed
24:47
a vacuum or something the deconstructing the vacuum
24:49
to get that motor right and then they put a little piece
24:51
of metal that could spin around with the motor
24:54
and you say okay well what about all the noise will this
24:56
happened during their music our
24:58
i guess every day they had some sort of happy hour
25:00
music our where they could make the
25:02
point of noise where they could play their in a slogan
25:04
a movie it was a movie clint
25:07
eastwood told me all about this is all there is
25:09
a movie about this escape by it's
25:11
a it was interesting so they would drill around
25:13
this vents while the music was
25:15
going on in fact one of these guys had
25:18
essentially a or was it called
25:20
an accordion or concertina which
25:22
is like one of those kind of
25:25
wind instruments were you gonna play for sale
25:27
for like billows in the airflow
25:30
and keys create different notes for yeah one
25:32
of them had that instrument so much of a secure
25:34
the arab probably like jam and ole
25:36
exam and out you know they got their own little band
25:38
going now damn sometimes it's
25:41
i mean it's not easy because i gasped
25:44
have the knowledge in the knowledge how to deconstruct
25:46
vacuum and and had to draw how number
25:48
that it's cetera but light hey
25:51
i'm times eight rights it's almost
25:53
like
25:54
simple in a way yeah it's it's beautifully
25:57
simple so once they had drilled
25:59
these holes they could then you know pulled
26:01
event of how did they hide this from the guards wealth
26:04
some of the new suitcases others cardboard
26:06
boxes and various other belongings
26:08
some of them use their instruments to just lean up against
26:10
the wall right there to create
26:12
and obscured thing and i mean the guards are walking
26:14
around scrutinizing each room every day because
26:17
again there really leaning on the fact
26:19
that
26:19
we're a guard but also we're surrounded
26:22
by ocean re not gonna be able to
26:24
escape their not really seen this coming
26:26
now again behind their cells sat
26:29
and unguarded utility corridor which
26:31
they used to access the roof tops
26:33
of their specific cells which were still
26:35
housed within the prison were
26:37
essentially talking about an empty
26:39
volume of space now that is unguarded that
26:42
is not meant to be manned ray are
26:44
but this is what created their little
26:46
secret workspace where they could develop
26:49
their plans they can you know they
26:51
could build all of the things that they needed
26:53
to build and they would take turns
26:55
having somebody stay back in the cells looking for
26:57
guards before your because somebody
26:59
would come through on alas padre year was
27:02
the last paycheck was settled the be like you're good start
27:04
though of course he accumulated
27:07
a plethora of materials through donations
27:09
or stealing from various inmates in various
27:11
rooms around i mean you could also be
27:14
classes and jobs around the prison he
27:16
added one of them worked in the barbershop which gave
27:18
them access to hear clippings may
27:20
eventually they they were able to grab
27:23
upwards of like fifty rubber
27:25
raincoats because they had standard issue
27:28
raincoats for all the prisoners they garnered
27:30
city of them and they actually use those
27:32
to create a raft the had access
27:34
to a library as well which they had plethora
27:37
of literature yeah lot of this was
27:39
redacted for problematic information
27:41
that you would want a prisoner to know your butts
27:44
i think he was like this and you know the name
27:47
of the magazine was it like mechanics
27:49
digester something of that nature and it's
27:51
on the tip of my tongue while he
27:53
looks set up essentially it was a magazine
27:56
the talked about mechanics and all sorts
27:58
of things and now there was some
28:00
very nice information within these magazines
28:02
that somebody redacting these wouldn't have really put
28:05
two and two together but one of them was
28:07
like vocalizing rubber and how to to make
28:09
of a makeshift ducks in
28:11
the use that in order to
28:13
take the rubber raincoats
28:16
the hot them feel them
28:18
by stitching and using rubber cement that
28:20
had balkanizing ingredients within the cement
28:22
to create a waterproof seal so they could
28:24
create a raft that so smart
28:27
and rosie oh look
28:29
here's the thing that's why i mean script right now
28:31
however oh yes i'm way off my
28:33
notes so i'm forgive me if i go back of his
28:35
information i'm just so stoked
28:37
on how cool this is yes i know
28:39
their prisoners not allowed the at a way they
28:41
put this all together is so ingenious
28:43
is a blows my mind every time i think about
28:45
it and is popular mechanics popular
28:48
canada thank you very much but
28:50
yeah so somebody worked in in so one
28:52
would go to library one would work at the barbershop
28:55
that sort of really like not
28:57
only did they just
28:58
the guy river staff right take take
29:01
a little piece of this and loose of that name
29:03
construct something but they they
29:05
also did the research and cannot just
29:07
like it's all so smart
29:10
oh yeah
29:11
they ended up creating arrests that was about six
29:13
foot by sport teensy that
29:15
way to carry safely all for
29:17
men
29:18
they also me the life preservers out of the same
29:20
robber and to seal them not only
29:22
did either of smith and the balkanizing stuff
29:24
in the stitching they use this is while
29:27
i just like i'm so
29:29
like i don't know i hate to say it i'm proud
29:31
of how clever this is the use the steam
29:34
from the pipes in this court or the hot
29:37
plates to dump a sick
29:39
leave the seals finish
29:41
the seal yeah so we could like get that vocalize
29:43
analysis and away from that he oh
29:45
my god man in there
29:47
i a whole
29:48
damn workshop know her that
29:50
was your unseen i don't think this is
29:53
my notes but i do wanna say
29:55
i did in my research about this
29:57
could be anecdotal so i wanted myth that the one
29:59
of the thing that was said again to
30:01
put scrutiny on the guards and how low
30:04
their guard was
30:06
one of the guys i believe it was
30:08
a captain brainiac said
30:10
that
30:10
hey i like she got permission essentially
30:13
to hang up sheets around
30:16
his like macgyver to workshop up there
30:18
because he's like i'm you know i'm helping
30:20
out the prison this is my job or on the prism just like
30:22
you know happens if the mechanics alive and whatnot
30:24
but when i work just as settling down
30:27
and make it a mess so can i just hang
30:29
up some seats to make sure that you know
30:31
i do i keep that dust in there like yeah
30:33
go for it you can't escape this is inescapable
30:36
well behind those seats the guys would get
30:38
out at night
30:40
they would actually use that as their workshop
30:42
ah my job it was it was
30:44
a combination of luck the and
30:46
cleverness and the guards just kind
30:48
of not expecting re re
30:50
his while all men a
30:53
smart yeah so smart
30:55
and that that's why slicked
30:58
all of its moved as hell yup
31:01
the almost feel like you the
31:04
get it takes more time and manpower
31:07
i feel your they just had some i do like all random
31:09
walk a like three am are some point i they
31:11
might have been a little a cure them or casserole
31:14
yeah well the night that they escape
31:16
this is a fun fact from your old pal trace
31:18
so
31:20
the know they escaped around ten thirty pm
31:22
one of the guards did in fact hear them clambering
31:24
about on their on the pipes they
31:27
didn't notice
31:28
they they dwelled i guess they mentally noted
31:30
it but they didn't investigate right or maybe
31:32
it's rats or what i really i would anyone be
31:35
in the pilates or strange sounds and then
31:37
it stops and then they said okay really
31:40
though
31:42
the coming back to their plan real quick i'm
31:44
so they made wouldn't paddles out of wouldn't scrap
31:46
that they then screwed together with like
31:49
whatever screws that they could for a they
31:52
also took apart they're concertina
31:54
that little musical instrument or looks a little bit like this shown
31:56
in the picture yet again it's like it's to
31:58
wouldn't paddles with
32:00
accordion style an air
32:02
pocket between alien kind of
32:05
the your hand in and out that's the best i can describe
32:07
it it's but they they took that apart
32:09
in order to make it into a pump
32:12
for the raft so they could inflate
32:14
the thing because it was so big they couldn't
32:16
just or even now
32:19
admits their manufacturing they also tried
32:21
to scout the best route up to the roof
32:23
and where they should go as far
32:25
as the sea route they discovered
32:27
that there was a vents on the roof that
32:29
was actually quite weak and so
32:31
they climbed up a series of pipes about
32:34
thirteen feet or so up and they pried
32:36
open one of the ventilator great at the top
32:38
and then they held it together so that way no
32:40
one would find out that it was open they held
32:42
together with a bolt made out of
32:44
so that way would hold it together
32:46
just well enough that when the night
32:48
came they could just busted open no
32:51
one would otherwise know all made
32:53
us soul mate out of so that's
32:56
genius yeah so they are they
32:58
helping ventilator and place with that until they could make their
33:00
escape you saw where they're just like
33:02
scoping out night after night to the rebuilding
33:04
but also as yapping ahead of my yes we
33:08
are building ness are going to school
33:10
the you know how to get to the roof or cause next
33:13
night risk about like the roof next may
33:15
i really musket really misses are
33:17
like
33:18
kind of like way to get down or get around centrally
33:20
located mine at all yeah they became
33:22
quite intimately aware of mean
33:25
this was over the course of starting in december
33:27
a climactic in june so you got ya
33:29
to seven money out and months does chipping away
33:32
at the vent took several weeks to months of course
33:34
and then finally getting the vent out they would get
33:36
up in there you have to garner
33:38
all your supplies your to put this on get us a
33:40
while they're putting this altogether periodically people
33:42
would be on look out the climb up the events so
33:45
they either whole physical as far
33:47
as the alcatraz route figured out the
33:49
in the night while they're working away somebody
33:52
could go to the roof in theory and peak
33:54
out across the nation of course they wouldn't
33:56
want to get scene but that's where they would say all
33:58
right where's the nearest land
34:00
what the current looking like because you you
34:02
mentioned the tides they come in and out and
34:04
that creates some pretty severe
34:06
activity in the beta and you know to be swept
34:09
out to sea was very likely though
34:11
that's the plan hi again
34:14
i'm just so wildly impressed
34:16
with how they were able to pull this stuff it is quite
34:18
impressive because it's just the
34:21
know from from back to fright night
34:24
this thing was so planned out
34:27
then on top of everything is just they
34:29
had complete control the the
34:32
i think that's right i agree recently named ray
34:34
it wasn't like let's just
34:35
during this time is a guard chef or was
34:37
going to bought for it they had complete
34:40
control and may knew exactly what
34:42
the route was what they're doing and everything
34:45
like that like it is insane
34:47
oh yeah now new feel
34:50
much more comfortable as you know surroundings
34:53
any know like way you're going what you're
34:55
doing oh absolutely
34:56
absolutely oh they have the huge upper
34:58
hand and now here's the thing i'd knowing
35:01
this is a surface level knowing this as a
35:03
film i mean it's again this was made into
35:05
a full moon rock as about miss reason it's
35:07
impresses rents are about escape impressive
35:10
what blows my mind is the more i looked into
35:12
the series is it
35:15
continues to get stranger it continues
35:17
to get more titillating in fact
35:20
there was a facial recognition
35:22
software that was being applied back in two thousand and twenty
35:24
i don't wanna get too much into that right now because we're going to discuss
35:26
that but like i'm just so impressed with how
35:29
long this is gone on all the way up until two
35:31
years ago they were still kind
35:33
of investigating new information
35:36
it gets while so if you thought this
35:38
was the climax of the crazy it gets
35:40
interesting
35:43
hey everybody does trevor as always
35:45
well i guess not always anymore we've
35:47
had christian pop in here a few times i
35:49
hope you enjoyed get this year his soul treaty
35:52
boys but hey ah just wanted to talk
35:54
to about some housekeeping news as
35:56
always i'm super i'm super we been talking about
35:58
a for a few months now but we got
36:00
Plush, the baby hands.
36:02
He's on the way. We got a little backpack,
36:04
coming along with him. I a few things coming
36:06
on. June 9th, to go
36:08
ahead and tell you the date so that we can mark it on calendars.
36:10
It's on 69. Nice.
36:13
So Mark the dates because that
36:15
is going to be a big lunch for us it will mean
36:17
a whole lot. If all of you pour out,
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36:22
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36:24
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36:26
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36:38
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36:40
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36:42
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36:44
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36:46
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36:48
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36:51
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36:53
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number one meal kit them with that said
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let's get back to one of america's greatest
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prison escapes the
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talk about the i hate was put put our minds
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back right june eleventh nineteen
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sixty two this is when they decided
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that their plan was ready it was perfect it
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and it was time to put it into action that
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mentioned previously west was unable to escape his
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cell and time so unfortunately despite
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all attempts and efforts he was
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going to be left behind north
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and the anglin brothers on the other hand did
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make it into the court or they gathered up their gear
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they climbed up and out through the ventilator
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got onto the roof of the prison in from here they
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slid down the smokestack at
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the back of the cell house they then jumped
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the fence and darted the north
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east shore of the island where they floated
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off in their escape route after
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prolonged search the f b i officially closed
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the case december thirty first
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nineteen seventy nine
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to seventeen and a half years later they concluded
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that the likelihood of the men surviving the treacherous
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swim was very very unlikely
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so they said you know what they just die probably
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only nine their bodies with closed
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the case
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they turned it over the us marshals service which
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continues to investigate despite the doubt
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that the men or even alive and they plan
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to keep searching for answers until all three
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men pass on what would be there ninety
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ninth birthdays so they're basically saying
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we're going to continue looking into the racial
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so he physically know that they can't possibly
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eat around and enough or at least very
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very very unlikely so this
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is where the story and the evidence ends his own
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sure exactly what happens next to these
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three men you know are they lost
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at sea to they drift out did
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they're wrapped hold up or did it succumb
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to the rioters in there are other because
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we've found scraps so did they succumb
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to the water and drown who
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knows how before moving on i do want to
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say this is where things get a little
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bit more harry money have to and we have to rely
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on allen west story but
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he told the guards all this stuff
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about the plan then the workspace
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gone up through the roof the raft all that now
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he then further elucidated them as
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to say they went to angel islands
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which was the shortest distance i think it was just
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over a mile away so be a little
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bit easier to do they would then cross
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angel island
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go catty corner up to another smaller island
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before leapfrogging off to the mainland because going
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straight for the mainland would probably be the most difficult
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yeah to be rough so that's why
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it's interesting that the oars were found
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on the coast of angel island that the scraps
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were found near the
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bridge the golden gate bridge yeah
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otherwise we don't know exactly
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the route that they took that's just what allen
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is letting us in the
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the way things could happen i do you
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what do you think you think lie the gao thought on
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this i mean a just as knowing the bay
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mart as and just actually seeing it yeah
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growing up in an area damning that isn't
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that's rough waters messily
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if you're not going and during my gum like
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low tide new planet out they
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added on it the people
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trained to swim
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yeah that's a whole event now is it's an event
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yeah there it makes me feel like you and i should
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get hands on
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get up in that cell see if we can squeeze
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squeegee ourselves their eyes squinting
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zero about us squeeze ourselves through that
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then
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climb up those those the pipes
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may that be caught like a raft and ticket
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when i think we can do think that know
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either going to be a riot i think around and try and is
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no way christian write that down new live action series
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got if we're going to pitch this thrill of his rates
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prison break i'm in twenty twenty two
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oh god this year oh and
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of course go tomorrow quite and all right it
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i that is a time boards that this man's promises
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let you know you know who
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to come up there that's that's his division his
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ambition or on top of ambition here
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i'm yeah well yeah but
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it likely yeah isis from him
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that immediate the the
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immediate yeah yeah i'm
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kind of with you there
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until we get into these theories there's more information
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to talk about well as a big
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inflame in the l i s let's
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talk about theory number one that the men fell victim
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to the pacific ocean and never reached
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the sure let's see if there's any water
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the your theory said i believe in right now
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arrival you're on board with with the f
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b i saw the f b i backs up this theory
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by pointing out to a number of
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reasonable explanations
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because again this is where all comes razor comes in
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which is to say the most likely
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answer is the real answer
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to close or about crossing the bay while
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many people have in fact completed the more
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than mile long swim from alcatraz to angel
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island the strong currents and average specific
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temperature of oh man that's even lower than i thought
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thirty eight point five degrees fahrenheit
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or three and a half degrees celsius is the
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average for those
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were clearly not in favor of any
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what he trying to escape of course they had a raft
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which doesn't help me get them out of the water a little therefore
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man as a lot of taken
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him and i can only imagine
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how your feet wouldn't like freeze up here
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they are as the i mean the like what
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does that frostbite entirely possible
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emmy you're pushing freezing temps there they are far
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off however as we like
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to address those wrinkles in the moment one
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of the wrinkles here is that the
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possibility of surviving this is not impossible
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quite unlikely but not impossible because
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another inmate john paul scott did in
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fact escape alcatraz later and that
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very same year in december
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of nineteen sixty two months after that
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that story released maybe this
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guy was inspired to say i too can
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make he read the san francisco
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beach naked and suffered from hypothermia
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not frostbite hypothermia that's
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that makes more sense for the out of yes
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but of course he was instead quickly
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recaptured by the police sent back
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to the island poorly butt naked
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i don't know that i mean he's like a here's
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the thing if you're in a swim in prison close that they got
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the which are all kind of like one size fits all yeah
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going to get waterlogged can be hard to swim in raise
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also not really gonna keep you warm damp
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heavy yeah my will drop it
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swim with what guy gave you but nagin
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now according to the information that west provided
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the group's land was again to steal close
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and a car once they reached the sure
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in two thousand and eleven a national geographic
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special claimed that the f b i reported
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a stolen blue chevrolet that
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it later had an accident on the road
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and inside that savvy witnesses claims
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were three men but they were not
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confirmed to be the suspects at hand
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but i don't think they were christian where they confirmed be anybody
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like maybe they were that the i guess the jury's
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still out were they the three men were
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they not it does land pretty nicely
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into the camp of what allen west was saying
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that they were gonna steal a vehicle is when was stolen
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three men in it but we don't know if it's them that
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easy though they
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made it elapse it just want to go
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man put me back in the sixties
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all go rob a bank and steal bank car and
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ticked of people just get away
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with it i guess or then they're not but then they're
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escaping is it is
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it that easy but why would the f b i
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see that covered up until
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like this data maybe wasn't like
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covered up him as it was maybe they just
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my more able to link and link it together
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maybe my best guess is that it's either
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hindsight is twenty twenty or it's
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that the f b i doesn't just release all their information
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because you know private and everything here
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bites is also the unbreakable
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prison they're trying to that maybe save face
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and keep this information closer their chest so they can
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figure out this case under wraps get those
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men back to the prison if
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they were in fact alive and
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then say okay cool our image
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is still secure the public don't need
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to freak out his prison doesn't need to shut
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down maybe they're like earlier for someone
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else broke down actually me to the shore then
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they were captured true but the
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whole point is
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hambrick out of right right well
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i mean because being kept for either alert
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it was shut down the prison as
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no longer maintains itself as a prison
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but now it's a tourist site it is
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i've seen it from afar many times now
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on the very windy very chilly coast
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in the dead of summer or hill huh
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but yeah in fact in two thousand and
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eleven there was a national geographic special that
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had a couple other informational
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pieces that i want to talk about so they
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said that a raft was found on angel i they
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said they were footsteps leading away from
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it that very next day and on
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that same day that a blue
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chevy truck was reported
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stolen now the reason
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why i want to mention this is because eighty miles east
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of san francisco in another town
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and california somebody else reported
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that a blue savvy truck with
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three men in it had run them off
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the road and almost made them crash
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and other sightings of this mysterious
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blue savvy had been reported in many
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different states across the country i'm talking like
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oklahoma indiana ohio and south
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carolina christian do we have any idea on
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like how these states relate to the families could
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that be
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very interesting information not
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from anything that i'm seeing
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ah just a very cursory
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search says about some family in georgia
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but that's not one of the state's list it's
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i don't know if it relates anyway i think the
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thing that stands out to make as like they had all been
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arrested and shared a place in
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atlanta a prison i should say not a place
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like is there room mate right they
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also some of them in arrested in ohio
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though you know maybe they're finding
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their old stomping grounds yeah i be this is
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man territory may be sightings
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that are unrelated but it's so interesting
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that many years later national
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geo is coming through and be unlike your there was there was
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there with footsteps and the news
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that information i saw as i'm
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wondering is like the f b i held that close to the chest
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right to be like we gotta protect
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the image of alcatraz you're on to shut it down
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or whatever but also i will want
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uber know that there's like
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what i broke out of that his own way man
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with reminders man we
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can find them because that would mean that would
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set the nation of nation riot right like if
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you knew three
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like a high level prison i mean
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i think i think for a fact one of these men
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was actually named
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public enemy number one not a lot of people
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get that title know i forget which
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of these three men who i had as a matter of wave
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one of them was in my yeah to meet
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ya the f b i like okay the escape
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and about our the headlines a the magic
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i have yeah i'd be like i be freaked out
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especially because i grew probably and i really no one
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escapes from some point
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of all i got her isn't alcatraz oh my
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god
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that a that a bad headline you don't want
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to see the street or gonna be empty for a minute or
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how they sort that out or for yeah
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i know how long have a mason currently
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them in the other direction they're so that
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letter a wrinkle here in the plan you know it's
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not impossible that they that they made
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it there is some other information out there but
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come back to the theory that they didn't make it because
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the family didn't seem to know anything about
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this when they were interviewed and an hour
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should i say interrogated they didn't really seem to know
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the whereabouts they weren't contacted etc
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and for the seventeen years that the f b i worked
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on the case it seems that no credible evidence
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that supported the idea that the men were so i've
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ever came forward so they felt
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very confident in stating and when
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they close the case that these men they
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didn't make it
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that's why they close the case i mean i would
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just lay low for the rest of my life yeah
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ray allen of course you are
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highly sought after and they will
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have their eyes on you for many years out
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a subway low and and as live
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in a hole somewhere else so ultimately
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it seem that many of their tools were
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found many of the scraps of the materials
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a life vest the paddles the raft cetera
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that they were all found in the fact
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that day their physical selves weren't
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found i mean it's a very
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divisive fact but a lot of people seem to indicate
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that means that they were lost to the sea
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i don't know if they were kicking it they wouldn't just be like
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i've got the raft as a collectible you know
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the minister vein at so difficult is
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the fact that i'm the have no
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idea if they made it right
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in your washed up like it was on
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the shore because they made it or he
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didn't make it and adjusts the mutters
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has lost up on the shore
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yeah
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what leaders decided to pull raining the guards and and
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they started throwing things out it's yeah every night
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that society
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little letters that say i escaped my day i
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open source oh
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they drown the
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bars most likely flow
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than out to sea though product
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and yeah i ah to see as opposed to
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like get near water up on shore
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man as
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the according to the cool thing is that way we
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pretty much have their
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whole escape route
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in plan and tool cemented
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yeah what is awesome they
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instead of that that's not really heavily
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like theorize that like we have
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the actual route the evidence them aerials
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like someone who was a part
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of the escape plan was able to make
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it out so it's cooler that old plays
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completely lake in my mind it's
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meant is known in own that's
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how it happened here
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i tend to believe allen west or i think you know
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he was made me be striking for a plea deal and
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also little bent outta shape he couldn't get out and
53:56
gnome so i think you know at
53:59
least ninety percent of his three holes we know the
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inside game the outside game is still
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may be up for grabs bullets i talked about a minute
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i'd also like to think that
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the years and years later it right
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at that point is go okay is what really happened
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right or or just i got no
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reason to hold at any rate wasn't what's
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the reason holder
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you know you're like if they made it i'm sure
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they're fine now yeah i could say at her summer
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every soon it's cetera
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wow know or maybe
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my view like sent a letter something
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i hear like monitoring that remember like
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maybe yes and later the die in your buddy
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green right you know like made a nice
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a smile on my like anything else
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is due west all
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is green sky blue
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the up and mogi
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i'd your buddy of his degree of
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shite that grew up in marine what is
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this sums up in those he loses his main
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is , decipher it
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just isn't he holds up his hand with hand thumbs
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a racist that are
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oh man that's our minds running wild
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yeah that's and that be nuts or let's
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drop some bombshells here to just talk
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about the other theories that the
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idea that the men made it that they survived
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that they just left all their a sex behind them
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they cop the ride and got out of there
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there's a couple different series that lie within
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this theory a lot of other pieces of information
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that we're going to try to address but nearly
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fifty years later in this in this
55:25
that brings this theory to light strongly
55:28
the anglin family provided
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evidence that the men might
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have actually survive england's
55:34
mother claimed that she received christmas cards
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signed with their names dating up
55:39
to three years after the
55:41
escape like a problematic
55:43
thing to do maybe was a prank
55:45
but it seems like the police would be able to kind of get in
55:47
on that below mama england
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what's going on here whereas this coming from what's
55:51
the return address
55:53
the was has proven to have happened
55:55
or as is more just site that's a good question
55:58
private is a story but do we
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have evidence that these postcards
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the real or was it the mother kind of
56:05
fray but why would she spun until late
56:08
there you know especially if her
56:10
son's broke out of prison and mural i would
56:12
eleazer air with the relationship maybe
56:15
we it doesn't like her son's
56:17
she's ashamed of what they've done
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they've all assumption by the could be
56:21
arrest within the family dynamic and in from
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there that's why she's like hangouts postcard
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necessary i gospel i do feel like there
56:28
was a postcard that that
56:30
should be evidence that my
56:33
pre locked in you know remain in
56:35
the like there was word
56:37
of a postcard rather was or not is the services
56:39
of have dry right yeah yeah yeah
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that's the i mean that's true that and that's just like what he
56:44
wants of my notes that lying know
56:46
the army but the thing is like it's so many years
56:48
ago and we don't know like a number
56:50
of things could have
56:51
have been little like details
56:53
and changes and he as years
56:56
and years ago by
56:57
well christmas the looking that up i'm very
57:00
curious because at the very good question but while
57:02
he looks set up there's another piece of information
57:04
act stems from twenty twenty that i'm very eager
57:06
to talk about though i believe it's
57:08
pronounced david weidner there were you id
57:11
any are you with a nephew of
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the england brothers and claimed that his
57:15
family had been given some photos taken
57:17
by a man named fred breezy the
57:20
breezy with a friend of the england's and
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claimed that the men survived their escape
57:24
and then fled to brazil he
57:26
gave weidner a photo of the two men wearing
57:28
sunglasses that he claimed were john
57:31
and clarence england the two men the two brothers
57:33
of the three that skates are
57:35
so you this photo now because it's
57:38
while i've never seen this photo before these
57:41
are two men standing on the with
57:43
what looks like farm grounds it looks like the stood near
57:45
iraq or something our like lot dirt
57:47
mound yeah nicer road
57:50
the walrus as i mean
57:53
i'm in his at them it's hard to say
57:55
because it is an older photo or
57:57
it's in their hair is longer they got the sunglass
57:59
around facial hair yeah i mean there's
58:01
the facial hair the economic
58:04
as much as like it's an older photo
58:06
it's a lot clearer the i had
58:08
a that on at my home versus
58:11
that we grew up with digital before it was ready
58:13
yeah or nasa thing though
58:15
it's eichler than eichler thought it be yeah
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the what's interesting here is
58:20
that
58:21
facial recognition experts that year
58:23
asserted that breezy was in fact
58:25
telling the truth that these two men
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as they appeared in this photo were
58:30
in fact the to convicts that had escaped
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though we have facial recognition experts
58:35
looking at this photo again i'm
58:37
not official expert or whatever but i look
58:39
at these photos and i look at their youth they're
58:42
younger photos the prison year and
58:44
what does that they're when they're ingested into the
58:46
system they take the shots
58:48
their little i like the wanted cards or whatever
58:51
of that call it there's a name for it in
58:54
mugshot merge cause
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put down a mug but i'm yeah
58:58
i mean like when you look at the two photos you like i can
59:00
see some resemblance
59:03
i specially the hair color i can see a little
59:05
bit of the face the mouth and nose
59:07
area but it's it's kind of tough
59:09
it's to me the say that it's
59:12
actually there but hey we got experts say it
59:14
is mean as far as a nuts
59:16
the are things going on harp on was
59:18
the fact that these are facial recognition
59:21
expert yeah
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their their said to of gone to brazil and
59:25
a in their stood here on their farmland cause
59:27
that was kind of how they made living and they just kind
59:29
of lived out there days but christian what do think
59:31
what what about those a those postcards
59:34
not finding any additional information on
59:37
their existence or anything like that
59:39
all its all on seeing beyond whats in the
59:41
outline is that
59:42
there was one specifically rumored to
59:44
have been in the winter of ninety sixty
59:46
two at the earliest gates john it with online
59:49
well i'm gonna go ahead and give this the official task
59:52
force stamp of disapproval
59:54
because the fact that things existed
59:56
out with all the other photos that we have here
59:58
i would have our
1:00:00
gathered that these would have showed up in some way
1:00:02
but alarm same why wasn't it
1:00:05
yoga to twenty twenty why
1:00:08
why was it obtained in put in
1:00:10
an f b i zip lock bags
1:00:13
lie that thing into a manila folder and sort of a zip
1:00:15
lock in that of a marker somewhere exactly
1:00:17
right and then the key
1:00:21
swallow it and then throw that person away
1:00:24
loser what about alcatraz than lose
1:00:27
the heard a solitary confinement
1:00:30
federal federal officer the gotta slow but
1:00:32
he escapes has some effect
1:00:35
from luck getting that evidence that
1:00:37
is photo just popped up like
1:00:39
the word delivery date just holding
1:00:42
onto it's of now he doing it con sought
1:00:44
after
1:00:45
oh yes it is photo i guess was passed
1:00:47
down within the family until someone far enough
1:00:49
away and i guess it was just a nephew when he was older
1:00:51
assuming that now his uncle's
1:00:53
would have either past or that they would you
1:00:56
know be in their older age it
1:00:58
probably then came out to say hey i
1:01:01
got some information who knows when you
1:01:03
got the news involved and get notoriety out
1:01:05
of something people might be searching for their fifteen
1:01:07
minutes but either way this photo came
1:01:09
to pass and experts are saints
1:01:11
them and i think is very interesting
1:01:14
wyden are also claimed to a local news
1:01:16
source that quote we know the brothers
1:01:18
escaped to live in south america i
1:01:21
know of times that they came to america to visit
1:01:23
the family there's no doubt in my mind
1:01:25
they escape from the prison in lived out
1:01:27
their lives three saying they even came back
1:01:29
say hello mum us
1:01:31
i mean at that point right
1:01:34
as you probably got a new identity been living
1:01:36
in brazil there's not
1:01:38
going to catch come just flaunting it you know you're
1:01:40
just saying you're just flexing on the t s a
1:01:42
and saying that the i've been in and out why
1:01:44
what will you it's
1:01:47
not like it'd be a house
1:01:49
on some type of way rosalyn
1:01:52
identity how's
1:01:55
how to say going to catch him the
1:01:57
scanned obviously there's like a room
1:02:00
there's by you think they're just
1:02:02
checking every face with the less to see
1:02:04
late i've tried to scanning goes
1:02:06
and ago yeah
1:02:08
well when it comes back to this photo and
1:02:10
is it's authenticity we
1:02:12
kind of can cast a shadow of doubt
1:02:14
but another kind of interesting piece
1:02:17
of information on that was a an irish
1:02:19
creative agency rothko actually partnered
1:02:21
with ai specialist to create
1:02:24
an identity test to scan
1:02:26
photos of the men as they were known in
1:02:28
the past as well as this photo
1:02:30
as they supposedly exist in that while
1:02:33
present at the time to create
1:02:35
a centrally a digital fingerprint of these photos
1:02:37
to say all right let's once and for all instead
1:02:39
of just using our judgment let's create a digital
1:02:41
fingerprint compare them and this
1:02:44
test came back with a ninety nine percent
1:02:46
positive rating that said it
1:02:48
these were in fact the men that
1:02:50
had escaped from alcatraz like
1:02:53
go for him he with going
1:02:55
into the theories i didn't
1:02:57
think of these men made it okay
1:03:00
now you're throwing out a photo that
1:03:02
his ability you like i like
1:03:05
the leukemia oh
1:03:07
that quick i just so what's learn from base
1:03:10
was the thing is like
1:03:11
even i don't know i i like
1:03:14
i'm begging on the odds of what
1:03:16
are the chances yeah
1:03:18
that the unit this was a
1:03:21
fake photo where the chances that they found
1:03:24
photo the to people
1:03:27
that closely resemble
1:03:30
right both of them are those
1:03:32
brothers right yes yeah maybe
1:03:34
their their hair colors different like
1:03:37
their heights different like what are the
1:03:39
chance that you found a photo that was so
1:03:41
clearly identical yeah that's
1:03:43
a good point i guess that's the thing they're just
1:03:46
like that's difficult to do yeah
1:03:48
on itself so i don't
1:03:50
i don't i don't see it being something as like
1:03:52
are just stumbled across this was used as a
1:03:54
photo to like say that or or uncles
1:03:56
are so like farfetched know yeah that again
1:03:58
coming back to the idea of ah
1:04:00
the razor that just that you have to go through so
1:04:02
many extra hoops just to make either the l
1:04:04
most i know have thought process their
1:04:07
motives this is so
1:04:09
many and i know like that
1:04:11
that is so convoluted the me and her
1:04:13
and i just don't see it as being like okay
1:04:16
look at this photo looks just like
1:04:18
on let's go ahead and dislikes shake
1:04:21
up the story a bit bring it back to lay
1:04:23
eccentric that are and also like
1:04:25
how to how they have found that on a know they
1:04:28
get it harder the hard
1:04:30
to pitch it in my mind as that
1:04:32
is just a random fake photo
1:04:34
right
1:04:35
get the real oh know the motive in the lie
1:04:38
or sex or looks just like them
1:04:40
we're this wild but
1:04:42
another piece of information actions of came to light
1:04:45
beyond just that photo so the san
1:04:47
francisco police as recently
1:04:49
as two thousand and thirteen received
1:04:51
a letter from somebody who claimed that
1:04:53
they were john england the letter
1:04:55
read quote my name is john england i
1:04:57
escaped from alcatraz in june of nineteen
1:05:00
sixty two with my brother clarence
1:05:02
and frank morris i'm eighty three
1:05:04
years old and in bad shape i
1:05:06
have cancer yes we all made
1:05:09
it that night but barely the
1:05:11
quote the f b i officials
1:05:13
performed a handwriting analysis against this letter
1:05:16
in a came back inconclusive it
1:05:18
is doubted that the letter is real and
1:05:20
was probably a prank by somebody civilian with
1:05:22
the story but the family took it seriously
1:05:24
they thought that their long lost family
1:05:26
member was out there looking for help and
1:05:28
i believe that this this story kind
1:05:31
of it's not here in my notes so forgive me for
1:05:33
a gun going off memory but that
1:05:35
story continues to unfold saying that i
1:05:37
will come forward and admit guilt that
1:05:39
it was me as long as you only give
1:05:41
me at a year in prison so i
1:05:43
can get
1:05:44
help so i can get medical help for my
1:05:46
cancer because if he is who he
1:05:48
is he doesn't want to go to the hospital
1:05:51
and get found out yeah i'm in
1:05:53
wa at least that's how that story kind of continues
1:05:56
and but that's where it ends the f
1:05:58
b i never really publicly addresses the letter
1:06:00
armed police never really said anything about it
1:06:02
outside of it coming to light and
1:06:05
so who knows what happened behind the scenes
1:06:08
on but otherwise most people think that this was
1:06:10
just kind of ignored damn
1:06:12
yeah i mean that's what i'm saying
1:06:15
like group we said multiple times get
1:06:17
away with it
1:06:18
you get to a certain age to just go and whatever
1:06:21
lived my life yeah in
1:06:23
a me especially if you're eighty three and nine doing
1:06:26
too well brady might just be like you know
1:06:29
i'd like to live a little more maybe i can get some help
1:06:32
a medical facility but now
1:06:35
they have juice very juicy
1:06:37
so kind of continuing of
1:06:39
continuing the theory that they made it there's a couple other odds
1:06:41
and ends i want to address so the england parents themselves
1:06:44
believe that members of the mob or at least other
1:06:46
gangsters may have aided the men's
1:06:49
escape the only wrinkle i
1:06:51
have before up proceed further is that
1:06:53
how would people outside of the prison
1:06:55
know that they were trying to escape unless
1:06:58
there were letters written and none of those letters
1:07:00
would have come forward as that really easy
1:07:03
to communicate outwardly from such
1:07:05
a prison arm but it was
1:07:07
sad that a white boat was seen
1:07:09
on the waters that night and that's really
1:07:12
what kind of fuel this particular subs
1:07:14
theory anger mean
1:07:16
there is a busy place ambler the place
1:07:18
me any a bow him
1:07:20
to be any
1:07:21
what kind of coming back to the families
1:07:24
theory they believed that mickey cohen ellsworth
1:07:27
bumpy johnson and whitey bulger
1:07:29
might have a range for a boat to be waiting
1:07:32
for the men once they reach the shore the
1:07:34
really continued to say that the motivation
1:07:36
behind the mob helping them was
1:07:39
that is they could help one group get
1:07:41
out of alcatraz than they could continue
1:07:43
this trend in help others get out of alcatraz
1:07:46
subsequently getting out more and more people
1:07:48
that were closer to their particular
1:07:50
group or what have you but it's about
1:07:53
the way be gone on to the shore and then
1:07:55
help them with about it in that's
1:07:58
what they were saying i
1:08:00
would imagine that they would kind of maybe health
1:08:02
the raft along or maybe on them with a vehicle
1:08:04
because they would definitely need a vehicle once
1:08:06
they were on the shore or least
1:08:08
dry clothes and all that sorta good stuff
1:08:11
yeah that's what the family was saying ah man
1:08:13
has done that this is a weird thing
1:08:16
the just be like okay will help you out
1:08:18
and then from there that's will
1:08:20
use as a base a help other be on
1:08:22
now
1:08:24
the other details or little hairy to me but
1:08:26
what is interesting with regards
1:08:28
to this particular sub theory is
1:08:30
that the mob members actually wrote the
1:08:33
a england's from time to time thinking
1:08:35
their sons for getting alcatraz shut
1:08:37
down we briefly touched on it but the fact
1:08:40
that these three may or may not have gotten out
1:08:42
alive does it matter they got
1:08:44
out somebody in december got out
1:08:46
and got recaptured but again they
1:08:48
got out to the point was that
1:08:51
they showed that this was not an unbreakable
1:08:53
prison that people could escape and
1:08:55
it is what fed into chris
1:08:57
of what year did alcatraz get shut down because this
1:08:59
is truly part of the way
1:09:02
that really got this please sit down in the mob is like great
1:09:04
thanks we no longer have to worry about
1:09:06
this extra problematic for isn't
1:09:08
nineteen sixty three nineteen sixty three or
1:09:11
even closer to this than i than
1:09:13
i remember either later but the yeah
1:09:15
right on the heels of these two escapes and sixty to
1:09:17
be wrong to the family pets
1:09:21
the same question do we have those letters
1:09:23
we are where are you again and i know your luck
1:09:25
and i know you're looking for like what are you have
1:09:27
them why would they write
1:09:29
to the families i know maybe
1:09:31
just have to flaunt their amicus here's
1:09:33
the thing the mob is like whatever the f b i can
1:09:35
read these letters doesn't matter and it also
1:09:38
doesn't say whether the sun's lived or died it's just
1:09:40
to say hey the
1:09:42
i don't know you brought you want you guys coming
1:09:44
to the family like maybe who are in greece
1:09:47
and you're like hey thanks when
1:09:51
the f b i these that
1:09:53
down questions
1:09:56
the ought to so overly is really a
1:09:58
thing it's interesting
1:10:01
i mean that's that's another reason why a mystery
1:10:03
like this not really a full mystery
1:10:05
it's just the outcome would
1:10:07
happen to these three man is really the renewed every
1:10:09
within misery oreo fear for sure
1:10:12
but yeah i mean it's the fact that we don't have these
1:10:14
supposed letters and postcards
1:10:16
that that kind of you know that us is the
1:10:18
nature of mysteries raise red the
1:10:21
hearsay yep you be
1:10:23
like a be gay thing that's like concrete
1:10:26
yeah i feel like every episode i have to like
1:10:29
illegal that's why the mr but i mean like it
1:10:31
is what it is i just like i just hate know having answers
1:10:33
sometimes wouldn't be a misery have been yeah yeah
1:10:36
exactly boat and that's why we talk about
1:10:39
this is a year that i think
1:10:41
i flipped over to the other side i think that they
1:10:43
did make it the
1:10:46
facial recognition the
1:10:49
arena postcard you something on
1:10:52
it's on odds own by i think that a
1:10:55
picture itself or they it's hard for me to
1:10:58
the go them just
1:11:00
faking that yeah
1:11:02
well as christian kind of wraps up is like
1:11:04
is all research their the letters themselves
1:11:07
have yet to be validated due to lack of response
1:11:09
from burgers attorney so
1:11:11
the question has been put out as to
1:11:13
the validity of these letters but we just
1:11:15
don't know
1:11:17
yeah just like a post guards there is no
1:11:19
photographic proof or evidence that these
1:11:21
letters exists the family claims to
1:11:23
on them and his claims to have shown them to journalists
1:11:26
and whatnot and they are all supposedly
1:11:28
postmarked with postmarked return address of address federal
1:11:30
prison in florida
1:11:32
there's no case okay so
1:11:34
there's a lot to unpack there because i could
1:11:36
just leave it as is and move on with my life but
1:11:39
that implies two things one that they've
1:11:41
got a lot of good juicy details
1:11:43
that they've given to journalist whose entire
1:11:45
job is predicated on exposing
1:11:47
stop and market about stuff and know that
1:11:49
happened secondly the these
1:11:51
men have been ingested readjusted
1:11:54
into the prison system in florida
1:11:57
no one knows or his get
1:11:59
goofy the a goofy
1:12:01
so messy well the
1:12:03
last thing i want to say is kind of coming back to that
1:12:05
boat that i was spit on about because it was an sf
1:12:07
police officer that said that they saw a
1:12:09
boat in the ocean or in the bay rally
1:12:12
around that night had no lights
1:12:14
on which is in ordinary yeah
1:12:16
that's not a northern not an ordinary
1:12:18
ordinary but the only light
1:12:20
that they saw on the boat was a flashlight
1:12:23
scanning the water as if looking for people
1:12:25
that were out there that's why the
1:12:27
police officer game for with that information but other
1:12:29
police officers were never able to
1:12:31
find such a boat no
1:12:33
but whatever proven to have existed
1:12:36
and so who's to say that
1:12:39
was ever their or a part of this mystery
1:12:41
at all yeah the mean
1:12:43
to a break on the gas
1:12:45
pedal the bones
1:12:47
that baby rip into the cod help
1:12:49
and see i will say i think are both sona
1:12:52
petals i think you just push little i've seen titanic
1:12:54
all yeah i think they just do adding i
1:12:56
will allow and they say full steam ahead
1:12:58
and then some poor lad has to go school earlier
1:13:01
and , or a lever it's locked in in my
1:13:03
head i met met are times
1:13:05
that all i do both as
1:13:07
more just like a lover yeah i know
1:13:09
i like the know i though like
1:13:12
dare tell i would like a pedal on a boat
1:13:15
wake me really slim nano
1:13:17
just gauges republica marcell
1:13:19
more sense
1:13:20
then you know waves but like as your your
1:13:23
, obama the way i'm mainly slam and on
1:13:25
the saddle dollar here to
1:13:28
sink yeah
1:13:31
i mean of a police are cause you
1:13:33
know did you mean this little bit of the
1:13:36
you nine i'm less consolidate hear the
1:13:38
end what it all the letters or are
1:13:40
hard to believe it's a fight
1:13:43
on the cusp of like believable but their
1:13:45
yards same time so oil
1:13:47
having the journalist like
1:13:49
there so open about showing these letters
1:13:51
and having it be publicly
1:13:53
the having a be
1:13:55
public information like why wouldn't we just get
1:13:57
the phonographic pieces of
1:14:00
the i'm then
1:14:02
what about the and quite add
1:14:04
up didn't quite make sense be a police
1:14:06
officer so that summers credible reporting
1:14:09
that lake lights are off some
1:14:11
with the flash i look around
1:14:13
then why did
1:14:17
the report it or if they were
1:14:19
placed i was on like boat patrol way
1:14:21
to go up and say hey turn on your life
1:14:24
right i just
1:14:25
lot of extra questions with yeah open
1:14:27
ended statements in this is just the someone's
1:14:30
questions or but i can see i'm going i saw
1:14:32
that i went whatever know my problem the
1:14:34
only know where well
1:14:37
that ends the escape from
1:14:39
alcatraz pretty much known as the greatest
1:14:41
escape
1:14:42
the ever devised with in a prison
1:14:44
especially given the the circular and
1:14:46
i mean i can see why yeah they
1:14:49
have full damn control the facility
1:14:51
oh yeah has also they run
1:14:53
that place now but as christian mentioned
1:14:55
this place was shut down only one year
1:14:58
later if if even that
1:15:00
the rest of this the the fate
1:15:02
of the men are kind of still up in the air i'm up be very
1:15:04
curious to see in the subsequent years
1:15:07
following this episodes release
1:15:09
esa if these letters don't come out at some
1:15:11
point has it took until twenty twenty
1:15:13
almost sixty years later for
1:15:16
this photo to come out so
1:15:18
i'll be interested to see if there are things floating
1:15:20
around the family as like heirloom race or whatever
1:15:22
like my going on will they expose it especially
1:15:25
when the age of each man is
1:15:27
is meant to reach ninety nine and the official
1:15:29
for investigation shuts down broadly
1:15:32
monday finally rules on i'll
1:15:34
i'll yeah like bay blade
1:15:36
baby let her rip and bar that
1:15:38
evidence out so interested i
1:15:41
really want to know but anyway this has been
1:15:43
the escape from alcatraz i'm so happy
1:15:45
we covered this one because i i've gotta love
1:15:47
this mystery ever since i saw that what i think
1:15:49
it's a seventy nine silver the lever twenty
1:15:51
so and cleaning it every day or two has
1:15:53
frank more as a result i don't up on the cover
1:15:56
by yeah the way
1:15:58
i mean i think that got away i think
1:16:00
they were our way your you change me the
1:16:02
to i don't know a habit of frank morris release
1:16:05
the england brothers were down there taken in brazil
1:16:07
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