0:09

I can't afford to be. This

0:11

is small town music. This is

0:13

big town music. He's a hit

0:15

of his time, you know, but

0:17

he can't use it. Fun, he

0:19

could prove it. Well, tomorrow is

0:21

just a song away. A song

0:23

away. A song away. A song

0:25

away. Hey everybody, welcome to Rock

0:27

Solid. The comedy podcast for all

0:30

things music, both new and

0:32

classic. I'm Pat Francis and

0:34

joining me in the Zoom

0:37

room to discuss. Rick Springfield's

0:39

greatest hits, volume two, big

0:42

hits. Big hits. Please welcome,

0:44

from Joyzy, Mr. Dave Festini.

0:47

How are you doing, Dave?

0:49

I am doing, although I

0:51

would sound completely different, given

0:53

that I have often the

0:55

first sentence. I'm doing well,

0:57

Pat. How are you? I am also

0:59

good. We are both in new

1:01

residences. Indeed. All right, and how

1:04

is your residence? Well, my residence

1:06

is great. It was a much,

1:08

it was a much shorter move

1:10

than yours. Mine was the next

1:12

town over. Yours was the next

1:14

coast over. Right. So when they

1:16

picked your stuff up, they took

1:18

it directly there. Yeah. And it got

1:20

there in how many days? It was

1:23

more like hours. Actually, well,

1:25

technically it stayed. on the truck

1:27

like over a couple of days because

1:29

of the way it worked out for

1:31

us. But had they gone from point

1:33

A to point B? Would have been

1:35

all of 10 to 15 minutes. Amazing.

1:38

Yeah. Amazing. Instead of 11 or

1:40

12 days. I can't imagine.

1:42

Yeah. And then you just keep wondering,

1:44

is there stuff coming? I mean,

1:46

is it on the way? And then like,

1:49

no one's called and told us like

1:51

where they are. And there's no

1:53

GPS tracking. Well, my

1:56

friend told me I should

1:58

have thrown like, uh... an

2:00

air tag in one of the boxes and

2:02

I never did that, which would have been

2:04

smart because then we could have tracked

2:07

it and not worried about it.

2:09

But everything was fine, everything got

2:11

here. Are you having a beverage tonight?

2:13

I made a margarita. I just have

2:15

water, just water tonight. You know what?

2:17

I should have grabbed a beer. Damn

2:19

it. I should have grabbed something. I

2:21

wasn't even thinking. Well, here we

2:23

go. We have a friend, a

2:26

friend stopped by tonight who's visiting

2:28

from Maryland and, uh... We were talking

2:30

and I lost track. All right.

2:32

Did you have a beverage with

2:34

them? No. No, I am completely and

2:36

totally sober. I'm the sober

2:39

one this evening, so drink

2:41

up. Even the person we're

2:43

talking about tonight isn't sober.

2:46

But we, but you are. It

2:48

depends on who you listen to.

2:50

That's true. All right, so let's

2:52

first of all, let's talk about

2:55

this. Greatest hits volume two.

2:57

It's really not. No. It's

2:59

more of a traditional way.

3:01

It's more of a best of. Yes.

3:03

It's it's a best of the

3:06

songs that from the albums

3:08

he's released since his comeback

3:10

in 19. Was it 99? 99.

3:12

I think technically it was

3:14

99. I think that's when

3:16

Karma was released in the

3:18

states. Yes. So that's what

3:20

we have here. We have

3:22

a compilation released by the

3:25

record label sing. Now let

3:27

me tell you something first

3:29

of all if you're a

3:31

patron supporter in conjunction

3:33

with this episode here's what I

3:35

got for you. I got two CDs

3:38

but I also have the double vinyl

3:40

and it is on it's limited

3:42

edition it's on clear vinyl it's

3:45

a gatefold and then what I'm

3:47

gonna do here's how I'm gonna do

3:49

this Dave okay also included

3:51

and you've seen it because I think

3:53

you have it I do. It's a

3:56

five and a half by five and

3:58

a half replica of the... cover

4:00

signed in Gold Sharpe by Springfield.

4:02

So here's what I'm going to

4:05

do for the patron people.

4:07

I'm going to give away these two

4:09

CDs in the vinyl and then

4:11

the three winners of the of the

4:14

CDs in the vinyl I'm going

4:16

to put just their names on

4:18

the wheel and spin it again

4:20

and whoever's name comes up is

4:22

also going to get this signed

4:25

card. Nice. That's the that's

4:27

the most fair fun way to do

4:29

it. And let me point something

4:31

out that I realized I was

4:33

driving home today from work and

4:35

preparing for this evening's

4:38

record and Realized that for

4:40

whatever reason The streaming version

4:42

I just double checked on

4:44

Apple music. I mean I

4:46

haven't checked any other services,

4:48

but I would assume it's the same

4:51

across the board The Apple music

4:53

streaming version is missing One

4:55

two I think it's missing

4:57

like three tracks I don't know if

4:59

they couldn't get the rights to put

5:01

them on the streaming. The streaming version

5:03

was a little late to be released.

5:05

It wasn't, it didn't, it was like a

5:08

week or two after the physical version was

5:10

released to came out, but it is missing

5:12

two tracks from a particular album. I

5:14

don't want to say it because we're

5:16

going to go through this whole thing tonight.

5:18

Right. Maybe when we get to and you

5:21

can go, this one's not streaming not streaming.

5:23

Right. But on the hard copy, you get

5:25

it. You get it. And let's talk

5:27

about this. Now, when you're an

5:30

independent label, like Singh is, for

5:32

them to get all the rights

5:34

to release a physical CD and

5:37

a physical vinyl is no small

5:39

feat. Yeah, and it was all

5:41

over the place too. I mean,

5:43

some of them were independent, like

5:45

shocks independent, but then

5:47

Venus and rocket, well, rocket science was

5:50

frontiers like these. I think he just

5:52

pretty much records and then goes out

5:54

and secures a deal when the

5:56

album's done. I don't think he necessarily

5:59

is signed. to anyone in

6:01

a particular label. Now, as

6:03

far as the packaging goes, I'll

6:05

describe it for you. It's Rick

6:07

Springfield is in the ring, which

6:10

is perfect because we do the

6:12

verses episodes here. And he's laid

6:14

out. He's been knocked out by

6:17

a big hit. And then in the

6:19

ring with gloves around his neck is

6:21

his dog. Well, it's a dog

6:23

that is, he is deliberately chosen

6:26

that he looks like Ron. It's

6:28

not actually Ron. Ron passed

6:30

years and years and years

6:33

ago. Ron from the working

6:35

class dog album. Right, and

6:38

success hasn't spoiled me yet.

6:40

So I like this album cover

6:42

a lot. Dave? I, okay. What do

6:45

you like about? It's fun. You

6:47

know me. You know, he's

6:49

shirtless, right? Well, he is, but

6:51

I mean, he's boxing, I get

6:53

it, okay. You know. Being

6:55

a guy, I'm sensitive to these

6:57

things, Pat, you know this, being

6:59

a guy fan for all these

7:01

years, like, I don't need

7:04

him taking his shirt off. I

7:06

know it appeals to the ladies.

7:08

He's in great shape. Oh, absolutely.

7:10

You kidding me? I mean,

7:12

puts me to shame. I'm

7:14

fat-ass. I, you know, I... No. No, hell

7:16

no. It's something to live, to

7:18

work towards. And then inside we

7:21

get a... We get a picture

7:23

of Rick and then, and then

7:25

it's got, you know, it doesn't have

7:27

the lyrics, but it's got, tell you

7:29

who wrote it, who produced it, what album it's

7:31

from, I think it's a, I think it's a

7:33

nice little digi pack. Yeah, it's a, yeah, it's

7:36

a, it's a, it's a, it's a nice little

7:38

digi pack. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's a, it's a,

7:40

it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's

7:42

a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's

7:44

a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,

7:46

it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's

7:49

a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,

7:51

it's a, it's a, it's a, it I want to

7:53

say they're white sleeves, but I'm

7:55

not 100% sure, but I think they

7:57

are. Yeah, I think they're pro. I

8:00

would imagine. But anyway, good

8:02

prizes in conjunction with this episode.

8:04

And we're going to go through

8:06

it right now. There's 24 tracks,

8:09

which is pretty great because

8:11

he releases three-minute pop songs.

8:13

You know, that's what he

8:15

does. There's even a couple

8:17

that are under three minutes. And

8:20

I will say overall, you know, not

8:22

to spoil anything, but well, let's

8:24

just go ahead. Let's just do it.

8:26

You just want to do it? I was

8:28

just going to say, it's a

8:30

great, it is a great compil,

8:33

it is a great representation of

8:35

that second half of his career.

8:37

Not to spoil anything. Big

8:39

surprise, Dave likes the comp,

8:42

the Rick Springfield compilation, I

8:44

don't think I'm shocking anyone.

8:46

But, I mean, yeah, for the,

8:49

for the uninitiated, if you don't

8:51

know anything about Rick Springfield from

8:53

1999 to the present, which would

8:55

be, you know, 25 years. Yeah.

8:58

This is going to be perfect for you.

9:00

But you'll decide. But you can

9:02

decide as we go on. You buy this

9:04

compilation. You might want to go back and

9:06

check out some of the studio albums. Who

9:08

knows? But the first track, and they're

9:10

not in chronological order, which is

9:12

fine. No, they're not. And that

9:15

was another thing I wanted to kind

9:17

of mention too, is that they're

9:19

not in chronological order. They've

9:21

been, someone put. I believe somebody

9:23

put a lot of effort into

9:25

the pacing of the album and

9:27

the track listing. It didn't just

9:30

go, all right, let's start with

9:32

97 and we'll end with 2025

9:34

or 24. It flows really well, I

9:36

feel. Yeah, I feel like it does too.

9:38

And it's easy. I don't

9:40

mind chronological on a compilation,

9:42

but they did put in some thought to

9:44

do this a little bit different.

9:47

And that's cool. It's also

9:49

dedicated inside love to

9:51

my B&B. Forever Rick,

9:53

what's B and B mean?

9:55

Well, one, the one B

9:57

is Barb. Barbara.

10:00

Right. The boys, maybe? His boys?

10:02

Barb and the boys? Maybe.

10:04

Why doesn't he just put

10:06

that? Why so cryptic? I

10:08

don't know. I'm not in the man's

10:10

head. It sounds like he's

10:12

loved to my air B&B. Maybe

10:14

as a... You might be

10:16

reading into that a little

10:19

bit. Doesn't say air B&B.

10:21

He just is B&B. Well,

10:24

that's what he's hip. He

10:26

calls it like that. Like that.

10:28

All right, first song, track one, written by Wright and

10:30

Young. I don't know who those two guys are. Oh,

10:32

shit. What, uh... I'll remember, but it is a cover.

10:34

It's a cover. It's a cover of the Easy Beats,

10:36

I think it is. Oh, really? Okay. Like the 60s.

10:38

It's a cover. This is a cover song. I

10:41

had no idea it was a cover until right

10:43

this second. Yes it is. I thought I was

10:45

going to look and it was going to look

10:47

and it was going to be written by Rick

10:49

Springfield. It was going to be written by Rick

10:52

Springfield. By Rick Springfield. By Rick Springfield. It was

10:54

going to be written by

10:56

Rick Springfield. shock, denial,

10:58

anger, and acceptance produced

11:00

by Rick Springfield.

11:02

And again, as I said, this

11:05

one is, I'll make you happy.

11:07

So let's see if it does.

11:09

Go. Right,

12:17

there we go. He starts off

12:19

rocking with, I'll make you happy.

12:21

Dave, what do you think of

12:23

that? Right out of the gates,

12:25

right? No, there's no fooling around,

12:27

straight ahead, kicking ass, right out

12:29

of the gate. It's a little,

12:31

I think it's a little odd

12:33

maybe that he starts with a

12:35

cover song. But I love that

12:37

song, I love that song. As

12:39

a general rule, I've always loved

12:41

the Rick Springfield covers because I

12:44

always felt like he brought something

12:46

new to them. One of my

12:48

favorite tracks on Rock of Life

12:50

is If You Think You're Groovy,

12:52

which is a small faces cover.

12:54

Yes. But if you listen to

12:56

the original, it sounds nothing like

12:58

the original. It's also one of

13:00

the reasons why I was disappointed

13:02

with his covers album because I

13:04

felt like he went the exact

13:06

opposite with that album because all

13:08

the songs it was just like,

13:10

it was like karaoke to me.

13:12

Yeah. He stuck so close to

13:15

what the originals were. I didn't,

13:17

I didn't enjoy it. But this

13:19

one is just a banger right

13:21

out of the gate, man. Boom,

13:23

we're off. Yeah, I gotta listen

13:25

to the original now because, um,

13:27

very different. Very different. Very different.

13:29

Well, that's, that goes with what

13:31

you're saying. He did something different

13:33

with this. There's a record label

13:35

called Rock Candy Records and they

13:37

released all of Rick's RCA. with

13:39

nice booklets etc. except except success

13:41

hasn't spoiled me yet. Really? Yeah

13:43

and the reason I think that

13:46

is is I didn't think they

13:48

could get the rights to the

13:50

cover that's on that album which

13:52

is called Back in Black or

13:54

Black. Black is Black. Black is

13:56

Black. Because I can't think of

13:58

any other reason why they didn't.

14:00

release that one. They did all

14:02

the other ones. Yeah, that is

14:04

odd. Yeah. So I mean, they

14:06

reissued, I mean, there is a

14:09

reissue of success that, you know,

14:11

when they made one of those

14:13

Japanese. Yeah, I have that one.

14:15

Yeah. Um, hmm. I didn't, I

14:18

didn't realize that. I don't have

14:20

any of those. I should and

14:22

I don't, I don't have any

14:24

of the rock candy re-relaces. Well.

14:26

Those copies replace the old copies.

14:29

Well, the other thing was too,

14:31

I bought, I bought the Japanese

14:33

ones, I bought those and those

14:35

were remastered. So I was like,

14:38

I'm sure you're fine then. Yeah,

14:40

great. You're like, yeah, I'm sure

14:42

you're fine. I know where you'll

14:44

be going immediately when we're done

14:46

recording. Yeah, good luck finding them.

14:49

They might be out of print.

14:51

Okay. So, if we're going to

14:53

vote on the tracks. I, thumbs

14:55

up for me on track watch.

14:57

Okay, same for, same for me.

15:00

All right, definitely. All right, that's

15:02

a winner then. He used to,

15:04

he did that, he still does

15:06

that live sometimes. It's a, it's

15:09

a, it's a killer to kill

15:11

it. Yeah. He should actually be

15:13

doing more of these songs live

15:15

currently. If he's gonna go out

15:17

and tour with the big hits

15:20

album, he should, uh, he should

15:22

play like, you know, the five

15:24

or six that we know, and

15:26

then, and then add some of

15:29

these every night every night into

15:31

the night into the night into

15:33

the mix into the mix into

15:35

the mix. I don't disagree, but

15:37

I don't know if it's going

15:40

to happen. I don't know. It's

15:42

going to happen either. But maybe

15:44

we can all, you know, wishful

15:46

thinking. All right, up next, track

15:48

two, what's Victoria's Secret? That's fun

15:51

title. The play on Victoria's Secret.

15:53

The play on Victoria's Secret. Right

15:55

off the bat. This is one

15:57

of the ones that is not

16:00

streaming. written and produced by Rick

16:02

Springfield and Matt Bissonnet, the new

16:04

bass player of Aria Speed Wagon.

16:06

which is causing a lot of

16:08

problems. Well, no, he's the base

16:11

player in the Kevin Cronin band.

16:13

Oh, I'm so sorry. He was

16:15

an audio speed wagon. He was.

16:17

But now, he is no longer.

16:20

He was with Elton John. I

16:22

mean, look, you're not a slouch

16:24

of a base player if Elton

16:26

John picks you. No, not at

16:28

all. And he also replaced Billy

16:31

Sheen and David Lee Roth's band.

16:33

You're right for the skyscraper album.

16:35

And I don't know how long

16:37

he was there, but he was

16:39

definitely there for that for that

16:42

for that. So anyway, and you

16:44

love you love Matt because you

16:46

think he brings out the best

16:48

in Rick. I love the Bissonnet

16:51

Springfield writing duo. I think that

16:53

they they bring the best out

16:55

of each other. I think those

16:57

two out those three albums that

16:59

they they have Venus songs for

17:02

the end of the world and

17:04

rocket science those three albums that

17:06

they basically co-wrote together I think

17:08

are are very well represented here,

17:11

we'll hear it tonight, and I

17:13

think are just amazing. I really

17:15

wish they would get back together

17:17

and start writing again. Yeah, by

17:19

my quick count, it looks like

17:22

10 of these 24, our co-writes

17:24

do. So, let's hear a little

17:26

bit of what's Victoria's secret? What's

17:28

she up to? Let's find out.

17:30

Tell me her name. Because I

17:33

really want to see her. Tell

17:35

me her game. Because I need

17:37

an extra strategy. What a tragedy.

17:39

But I know she's not what's

17:42

best for me. And I know

17:44

she'll cause me heart. And I

17:46

know she'd rather fly away to

17:48

someone else's arms. But

17:52

I need to

17:55

know one thing.

17:58

What's victorious? You

18:28

show me that? Wow, that

18:30

sounds so great. Oh, I

18:33

mean, just pure rock, pop.

18:35

I don't know, man. I

18:37

know I'm clearly biased. I'm

18:40

old. I mean, that's all

18:42

now at this point is

18:45

what, 15? I'm mean, what's

18:47

the year on that? 2008?

18:50

17 years ago? 17, Jesus, 17

18:53

years ago. But I remember at

18:55

the time thinking at 17 years

18:57

ago, and that song's not getting

19:00

any radio play whatsoever. Nothing. No.

19:02

And it could have on, I'm

19:04

not necessarily thinking, you know, top

19:06

40 had already gone to the

19:09

dogs at that point, but I'm

19:11

like, uh, uh, don't. You know,

19:13

hot A.C. station. So adult contemporary

19:16

stations should have been playing the

19:18

hell out of that. It's a

19:20

great song. It's got the pop

19:23

culture, like, you know, a little

19:25

wink to the Victoria's secret thing.

19:27

It boggles the mind. Yeah. And

19:29

again, it must be frustrating for

19:32

the man himself. Sure. Has to

19:34

be. How old were you 17

19:36

years ago? I am 50. My

19:39

52? I think I'm 52. I

19:41

think I'm 52. So 45? No.

19:43

No. No. No. No. We take

19:46

10 years off of 52. 42.

19:48

And then 42 minus 7 takes

19:50

you to 35. There you go.

19:53

35. Wow, I was 35 years

19:55

old when that song was a

19:57

ripe young 35. Yeah, yeah, you

19:59

were, yeah, and I was 44.

20:02

It's crazy. Geez. It doesn't, it

20:04

seems like that just came out

20:06

like seven years ago. Yeah, it

20:09

really does. That was the first,

20:11

it was this, it was the,

20:13

wait, yeah, it was this album

20:16

where we went on the inaugural

20:18

Rick Springfield and Friends Cruise. Yes.

20:20

Is that when you sang with

20:22

them? No. That was, uh, that

20:25

was the second trip in Mexico.

20:27

Yeah, the second. We'll get to

20:29

that song. It's included on this.

20:32

All right. All right. This compilation.

20:34

All right. Well, I vote thumbs

20:36

up for that one. I am

20:39

of strong thumbs up for that

20:41

one. Love it. Let's move on.

20:43

The next song is written by

20:45

Rick Springfield Matt Bissonnet. Dave Groll.

20:48

Taylor Hawkins Rock. Oh yeah, this

20:50

isn't on the streaming, the streaming

20:52

version either. Taylor Hawkins Rockins Peace,

20:55

Chris Shifflets, and Pat Smear, produced

20:57

by Butch Fig, and this is

20:59

a, this is a rarity of

21:02

sorts because it's not on any

21:04

other Rick Springfield album. No. It

21:06

only be fined on the album,

21:09

Sound City, to Real, the soundtrack.

21:11

So, and this, uh, this features...

21:13

Rick Springfield with Dave Groll, Taylor

21:15

Hawkins, Nate Mandel, and Pat Smear.

21:18

So not all the food fighters,

21:20

but most of them. When I

21:22

heard this song, the first thought

21:25

that came to my mind was,

21:27

boy, wouldn't it be great if

21:29

Dave Groll would produce a Rick

21:32

Springfield out? Yep. You know, I

21:34

mean, work with him or just

21:36

Rick and the food fighters do

21:38

one? Well and prior to it

21:41

being recorded it was just kind

21:43

of like one of those wow,

21:45

you know You thought to yourself

21:48

wouldn't it be cool if? You

21:50

know, it was like a dream

21:52

scenario if one of your favorite

21:55

rock bands just got together with

21:57

Rick Springfield and then it happened.

21:59

So. And then it happened. And

22:02

then it happened. Almost. They did

22:04

a show. They did a handful

22:06

of shows to promote that movie.

22:08

And one of them was in

22:11

New York and I was in

22:13

New York that night, but I

22:15

had to work and I couldn't

22:18

go. Was Rick there? Oh yeah.

22:20

He was one of the people.

22:22

They did some shows with the

22:25

artists that were some of the

22:27

artists that were in the movie.

22:29

That's immediate. Oh, they should release

22:31

that as a live album. All

22:34

right, I don't even think I

22:36

gave the title. This song is

22:38

called The Man That Never Was.

22:41

Here it comes. Right out of

22:43

the gate. Slowly. I

22:58

won't wait for an invitation.

23:01

I can't stay for the...

23:40

Right, wow. This Springfield from

23:42

2013. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. It

23:45

is amazing. It's ridiculous. Seriously,

23:47

it's ridiculous that people are

23:49

listening right now and probably

23:52

have never heard the three

23:54

songs. Just play. Yeah, and

23:56

you know, I've seen, I

23:59

own that documentary. They must,

24:01

they must show some of

24:03

that recording. They have to

24:06

play that song. Oh, I

24:08

think they do. Yeah, I

24:11

think they do. Yeah. But

24:13

it was also cool. It's

24:15

just cool because of the

24:18

fact that a guy like

24:20

Dave Groll can appreciate, you

24:22

know, the music of Rick

24:25

Springfield. So. Yeah, and respect

24:27

Rick Springfield. Yeah. And

24:29

of course he's in the Sound City documentary

24:32

because Working Class Dog was recorded at Sound

24:34

City. I think Working Class Dog and wasn't

24:36

success recorded there too? Maybe, and maybe even

24:38

living in Oz, I don't know. Maybe the

24:40

first three were, or not the first three,

24:42

but the three that we know. Yeah, I

24:45

know a rock, rock of life wasn't. No,

24:47

but yeah, I think those three might have,

24:49

might have been. All right, thumbs up. Yes.

24:51

Three for three guys, two votes each, that's

24:53

six. And a great inclusion, would have been

24:56

easy just to do, you know, stuff from

24:58

the albums themselves, but to include these tracks

25:00

I think was a great decision because it's

25:02

stuff that, you know, maybe even casual Rick

25:04

Springfield fans weren't necessarily, they were aware of

25:07

the newer material, but weren't aware of this

25:09

track or at least didn't own it. So

25:11

putting it on there I thought was a

25:13

great decision. And the hype sticker on the

25:15

vinyl says greatest hits volume two plus rarities.

25:17

So this would be one of those rarities

25:20

I guess. Yes. All right moving to the

25:22

next album which I believe is you think

25:24

this is one of his best albums of

25:26

this period I believe you can correct me

25:28

if I'm wrong songs for the end of

25:31

the world. 2012. Yeah I think of this

25:33

era I would I would put up Venus.

25:35

And this one is the two of the

25:37

two best. of the era.

25:39

Now this album was

25:42

released with four different

25:44

covers and four different

25:46

covers. Oh, and I

25:48

own every single one

25:50

of them, Pat. This

25:52

was actually cool. I

25:55

own two of them.

25:57

It's, I think it's

25:59

long since, I don't

26:01

think it works anymore.

26:03

But when they released

26:06

them, like there was

26:08

an app you could

26:10

get and like the

26:12

cover came to life.

26:14

It was really, I

26:17

thought it was a

26:19

really cool thing that

26:21

they did with it.

26:23

Yeah, it was almost

26:25

too good for an

26:27

artist like Rick Springfield.

26:31

I'm saying, but I have to. Well,

26:33

listen, but I mean, you would think

26:35

that that would be something like Metallico

26:37

or U2 would just, but Rick it.

26:39

I understand your angle. He's also kind

26:41

of, you know, by putting out multiple

26:44

versions, like this is the type of

26:46

thing that Taylor Swift does regularly now.

26:48

Hey, 50 different versions of the album. And

26:51

there were different bonus tracks. Right, they

26:53

had different bonus tracks on them. And you

26:55

know, I know that people have different,

26:57

it's easy, I get it. You have different

26:59

opinions on that. You can look at

27:01

it as like, oh, it's a money grab

27:03

because he wants you to buy all

27:06

four, you know, or it's a collector's thing.

27:08

mean, nobody's putting a gun to your

27:10

head and saying you got to buy all

27:12

four of them. You buy whichever one

27:14

you want. And if you want the others,

27:16

you know, you got them. So I

27:18

thought it was cool. Yeah, I thought it

27:20

was cool too. And I was super

27:22

excited that, you know, one of our legacy

27:25

artists was doing something cool. Yeah, they

27:27

did, you know, they definitely put money into

27:29

that thing. They did. And this song

27:31

is called, Wide Awake, written by Springfield and

27:33

Bissonnette, produced by Springfield and Bissonnette. So

27:35

let's hear, Wide Awake, everybody as it queues

27:37

up. Very soon. So

27:43

nice to meet you,

27:45

so good to see a

27:47

friendly face. Living in

27:49

shadows, I was walking a

27:51

wire without a safety

27:53

net. Fighting to break through.

27:56

Tried out one of human

27:58

race, sleeping night. and

28:02

I saw your face you show me

28:04

there's a place where I The

28:33

running time of this CD is

28:35

one hour and 18 minutes, so

28:37

they're using as much of the

28:40

time on a CD as they can possibly

28:42

cram on there. Why don't we,

28:45

thoughts Dave? Well, this isn't on

28:47

the, this isn't on the stream of,

28:49

I know it's not like a

28:51

broken record here, this isn't on

28:53

it either. And it's funny you

28:56

bring the running time, I'm looking

28:58

at it right now. There's only

29:00

16 songs on the streaming.

29:02

They're moving, they're, they're losing

29:04

eight songs. Yeah, I mean,

29:06

it's, it's ridiculous. But, um,

29:09

anyway, so that's the last song I'm

29:11

going to say that. It appears, it

29:13

appears that the songs for the end

29:15

of the world stuff, the Venus and

29:18

Overdrive stuff, not on this

29:20

album, and the man that never was.

29:22

I mean, couldn't get the rights. I

29:24

guess not. Maybe that was the delay

29:26

in, in its release, maybe they were

29:28

trying to, I don't know. I don't

29:30

like wide awake a lot. I'm trying

29:32

to think if there's anything else on

29:35

that album, I might. No, I mean, great,

29:37

it's just another great up-tempo. Like, there

29:39

really, there isn't a single ballot on

29:42

this whole thing. There aren't a lot

29:44

of ballots in this period of time

29:46

to begin with. There are some, but

29:48

there isn't a single one on this

29:50

compilation. So we're continuing with that

29:52

hard-driving, you know, it's just another

29:55

killer track track. Yeah, it's only killer

29:57

track. But this CD in your car

29:59

could be your... your summer CD

30:01

for sure. Oh, absolutely. All

30:03

right, staying with songs for

30:06

the end of the world.

30:08

Well, what's your vote with

30:11

Wide Away? Oh, I like

30:13

Wide Away. Thums up. Yeah,

30:16

it's a rocker. It's nicely

30:18

placed in here and it's

30:21

nice leading us into this

30:23

next song, which I love

30:26

so much. Like I could

30:28

listen to this one on

30:31

a loop. Again. from Songs

30:33

for the End of the

30:35

World 2012 written and produced

30:39

by Springfield

30:41

and Bissonnet.

30:44

This is

30:47

Our Ships

30:49

Sinking on

30:52

Rock Solid.

30:58

to the fire

31:33

I mean this one's top five

31:35

of this era it's it might

31:37

be top five of this era

31:40

it's it might be top five

31:42

of all I mean right so

31:45

fucking good and I you know

31:47

he's battled we all you know

31:49

if he's read or you know

31:52

about him he's battled depression I

31:54

can't imagine what percentage of that

31:56

depression comes from the fact of

31:59

recording a song that. And listen,

32:01

he's got a dedicated fan base.

32:04

He still sells out shows. He's

32:06

going out on an 80s tour.

32:08

This isn't, you know, this isn't

32:11

a guy who's unsuccessful by any

32:13

means. No. But you write it,

32:15

you know, I would think being

32:18

an artist, there's a certain amount

32:20

of recognition that you would like

32:23

to get of your work. And

32:25

you, you record, you write, you

32:27

record a song like that, and

32:30

it just doesn't gain, as my

32:32

voice breaks. Doesn't gain the popular

32:34

the mainstream popularity that it deserves.

32:37

It's a it's a killer to

32:39

me And I don't know man

32:41

you tell me that's not a

32:44

hit that song's not a hit

32:46

There's a universe somewhere where that

32:49

song is a huge hit and

32:51

I want to live there Yeah,

32:53

and I mean how How did

32:56

they not work this record enough

32:58

and make that a hit? I

33:00

don't I don't know man. There's

33:03

a there's a club version of

33:05

that song. So it's not like

33:08

I mean, it's out, you gotta

33:10

look for it. But it's there,

33:12

like, I don't think, I maybe

33:15

it was just misdirected or misconnected.

33:17

I don't know. That is, it

33:19

is a great mystery to me,

33:22

because they clearly put money into.

33:24

It was UMT, it was Universal

33:27

Music Group, like, they put money

33:29

into it, but it just doesn't,

33:31

I don't know. I don't get

33:34

it. I am gonna interject right

33:36

now. Roxala listeners, if you have

33:38

not heard my live at the

33:41

San Francisco Sketch Fest interview with

33:43

Rick Springfield from January of 2018,

33:45

go find it and listen to

33:48

it. I was very proud of

33:50

that interview. I always, joking, half

33:53

joking, Lisa, it's the best interview

33:55

Rick Springfield ever did. But I

33:57

was very proud of that interview.

34:00

I was very excited. That's great.

34:02

It's a great one. And, um,

34:04

and, and, I just, I love

34:07

any, you know, any interview that,

34:09

where he actually gets interviewed by

34:12

someone. who's familiar with the music

34:14

and doesn't ask the same questions

34:16

and treats him like, you know,

34:19

the songwriter and artist that he

34:21

is, it already starts off on

34:23

a higher ground than 95% of

34:26

him. Oh, you know, is there

34:28

really a Jesse's? Oh, you know,

34:31

is there really a Jesse? What

34:33

were you thinking about when you

34:35

stole your friends? Jesus. I mean,

34:38

come on, shut up. Where's Noah

34:40

Drake? Do you like acting? I

34:42

mean, do you like better? Do

34:45

you like the acting or do

34:47

you like the phone? All right,

34:49

thumbs up, but we're both thumbs

34:52

up. A strong thumbs up, a

34:54

very enthusiastic. Yes, yeah, that's taught.

34:57

Yeah, that's easily top five for

34:59

me on this album too, for

35:01

sure. Yeah. All right, this next

35:04

one could possibly be in my

35:06

top five on this album too.

35:08

This is from Shark Denial Anger

35:11

and Acceptance from 2004, written by

35:13

Rick Springfield, produced by Rick Springfield.

35:16

This one's simply called Will I?

35:18

Will I? Will I get to

35:20

queue it up? Will I get

35:23

it to play? Because

35:26

there's a way you are

35:29

and the way I wish

35:31

you were and what you

35:34

want and what you say

35:36

you want to both different

35:38

stories. I was standing Okay,

36:10

there we go. I just

36:12

love it. Yeah, and I

36:14

was happy to see that

36:16

they used, they used the

36:19

album tracks, because they did

36:21

for this, and another song

36:23

that's coming up soon, if

36:25

not next, they kind of

36:27

remixed them and made like

36:29

softer, well, maybe acoustic driven

36:31

versions, which are good too.

36:33

But I was happy to

36:35

see that they, they. included

36:37

the original versions of these

36:39

and not those, you know,

36:41

the radio friendly ones. All

36:43

right. And I did not

36:46

know that. So that's why

36:48

you're here. You know, you

36:50

know all the minutiae. All

36:52

right. Again, two thumbs up

36:54

again. Yep. We're six for

36:56

six. We're six for six.

36:58

So far. We are. We

37:00

haven't argued. We haven't done

37:02

a Cisco and Eber yet.

37:04

No. It's all thumbs up.

37:06

Hopefully not boring the hell

37:08

out of everyone. Probably these

37:10

two guys kissing Rick Springfield's

37:12

ass. We're now going to

37:15

2016. The album is rocket

37:17

science released on Front Tears.

37:19

Yes. If you pick up

37:21

the, if you were able

37:23

to pick up the Best

37:25

Buy edition, you got a

37:27

couple of bonus tracks. And

37:29

I still think that one

37:31

of those bonus tracks is

37:33

better than some of the

37:35

songs that made the album.

37:37

Yeah, you're a big, you're

37:39

a big walking in fan,

37:42

right? Big fan of that

37:44

song. I love it so

37:46

much. You don't. It's not

37:48

bad. It's just, I don't

37:50

know how that works, right?

37:52

You know, like how do

37:54

you, how they choose, you

37:56

know, what, what's a bonus,

37:58

what's not? Yeah, you know,

38:00

like, it goes all the

38:02

way back to. It was

38:04

a rock of life, for

38:06

they left language of love

38:08

off rock of life. I

38:11

love the song language of

38:13

love. Like, just put it

38:15

on there. I don't know.

38:17

And the, uh, the font

38:19

on the front of the

38:21

big hits album that says

38:23

Rick Springfield, it's the same

38:25

font that they used on

38:27

the rocket size. Well, it's

38:29

the old Dimo or, what's

38:31

the name of that company?

38:33

Yeah, the label maker thing.

38:35

That's back, that goes back

38:38

to working class dog. Now

38:40

what's interesting about the two

38:42

bonus tracks, Mercy and Walking

38:44

In, on this, if you

38:46

didn't get this, they're nowhere

38:48

to be found. They're not

38:50

on the stand, probably, yeah,

38:52

I guess not, they're not

38:54

on the streaming thing. No,

38:56

no, you can't, you can't

38:58

buy them digitally, they're right

39:00

here. So I'm gonna tell

39:02

you, this is why you

39:04

buy, physical, well listen, listen,

39:07

I mean, just look at

39:09

this, this comp alone, you're

39:11

being robbed, you're being robbed

39:13

of how many songs, There's

39:15

two in a row from

39:17

Rocket Science. This one's Light

39:19

This Party Up written and

39:21

produced by Springfield and Be

39:23

So Net. Be So Net.

39:25

Here we go. So

39:37

album rocket science was built. as

39:39

his country album? Yes, and I

39:41

think you and I don't necessarily

39:43

see eye to eye on this

39:46

one. No, you think it is

39:48

more 20. I definitely do. All

39:50

right. I think there was a

39:52

concerted effort to try and appeal,

39:55

because there was, you know, it

39:57

goes in waves, right? But you

39:59

do have like that country crossover

40:01

type deal. And I think. It,

40:04

there was a concerted effort to

40:06

be like, oh, you know what,

40:08

you freaking pop radio, rock radio

40:10

doesn't, you know, won't pick any

40:13

of this up. Let's see if

40:15

we can do a country tinged

40:17

thing and we'll hook up with

40:19

the guy from Rascal Flats and

40:22

we'll make, you know, not that

40:24

that's necessarily a bad thing. I

40:26

mean, do whatever hell he wants.

40:28

He's kind of, if you look

40:31

at his career, especially, and especially

40:33

in the 80s too, like, each

40:35

album kind of had a different.

40:37

I mean, working class aug and

40:40

success are kind of the same,

40:42

but you know, living in odds

40:44

is a little harder, a little

40:46

more mature, than you get to

40:49

Tao, which is, you know, a

40:51

little more of an English kind

40:53

of electronic, you know, electronic sound

40:55

to it. So I don't think

40:58

it's necessarily bad, but I definitely

41:00

do think there was a concerted

41:02

effort to make it more of

41:04

a country tinged album, and then

41:07

they backed off of it a

41:09

little bit for whatever reason. So

41:11

let's try that. So, yeah. So

41:13

there we are. And what do

41:16

you and what do you think

41:18

of like this party up? That's

41:20

a very fun, very fun song.

41:22

It's great live. He did it

41:25

when this album was out. He

41:27

did it live a lot. He

41:29

opened the show with it. So

41:31

it's another it's another winner for

41:34

me. I mean, I mean, I

41:36

mean, really it's just like one

41:38

boom, boom, boom. There isn't, you

41:40

know, you're just not taking a

41:43

breath, which is great. It's such

41:45

a great, it's such a fun

41:47

compilation to listen to in the

41:49

car. Yeah, it really is and

41:52

although I don't love like this

41:54

party. up, I still have to

41:56

give it a thumbs up because

41:58

it's still good. I just don't,

42:01

compared to what we just heard,

42:03

it's not as good as the

42:05

other six. And I don't believe

42:07

it's as good as the next

42:10

one, which I love. Yeah, I

42:12

mean, it's a little, I guess

42:14

you could make the argument, it's

42:16

a tad formulaic, you know, it's

42:19

like a good time party song,

42:21

we're going to get to more

42:23

of that later. Trust me, stick

42:25

around folks because this does eventually

42:28

go a little bit off the

42:30

rails. I believe we're going to

42:32

go off the rails a bit.

42:34

But we're sticking with rocket science.

42:37

Again, this song now, this song

42:39

is written by Springfield Bissonnet and

42:41

Demarkas. Who's that? That's the Rascal

42:43

Flats guy. Oh, okay. Yeah, I

42:46

really like this one. This is,

42:48

you know, thumbs up already. This

42:50

one's called Down. living

42:56

down to the

42:58

river in black.

43:00

Feel like you're

43:02

drowning again. It's

43:04

unreal at the

43:06

heart attack. There

43:08

like a mountain

43:11

you stay. Your

43:13

body keeps your.

43:46

All right, I already gave it a

43:48

thumbs up, Dave. What do you say?

43:51

Oh, that's not a hit. Why, right?

43:53

That's not a hit. That's not catchy

43:55

at all. That doesn't make its

43:57

way into your fucking ear and not,

44:00

and not, and not, and not relents,

44:02

like. It's I'm sorry. That's got a

44:04

more country thing than it does.

44:06

It's got that slide. It's got that

44:09

slide guitar. Right. So that's what

44:11

I mean when I say there was

44:13

certainly an effort there to country it

44:15

up a little bit. But again, it's

44:18

just a perfectly written rock pop,

44:20

whatever you want to call it. And

44:22

It's going to be, listen, I'm sorry,

44:24

if I bore the hell out of

44:27

you with this, it's going to

44:29

be a recurring theme with me. I

44:31

just don't understand it. I don't understand

44:33

it. How that doesn't, you know, it's

44:36

just such a great, great song.

44:38

So yeah, that's a, that's a thumbs

44:40

up for me. Just so good. Yeah,

44:42

how was he not, how did he

44:45

not perform that on the CMA's?

44:47

Doesn't matter if he's nominated he's nominated

44:49

or not? First of all, you bring

44:51

Rick Springfield out on one of these

44:54

shows. There's immediate recognition. People don't

44:56

dislike him. You know what I mean?

44:58

Right. They don't attract you. You

45:00

know, that's how many years ago? You

45:02

know, I'm still a good looking guy

45:05

for his age now too. But back

45:07

then he was even... Yeah, 2016.

45:09

You know. Good looking dude. popular with

45:11

the ladies great energy like it's not

45:14

he's not going to go out there

45:16

and just stand there and strum

45:18

is yeah you're right you know if

45:20

you're gonna get a great performance out

45:23

of it they they had that whole

45:25

storytellers thing where they're matching pop

45:27

and rock people up with country people

45:29

like how does that not happen during

45:32

this time period don't I don't understand

45:34

it don't get it look is

45:36

it the people that he's working with

45:38

did they not know exactly what

45:40

exactly what to do I

45:43

feel like he could work with

45:46

someone better. At this point, has

45:48

he changed? He's comfortable right now.

45:50

He's got the same. During shock,

45:53

denial, anger, acceptance, he was, I

45:55

don't remember the name of the

45:57

management company, but it was being

45:59

run by it, kind of. I

46:02

think Brian Doyle, who like worked

46:04

with all the notes and you

46:06

know, a lot of big names

46:08

from that, you know, from the

46:11

80s, whatever. He's got to have

46:13

decent representation. I don't, I don't

46:15

understand it. I don't get it.

46:18

Yeah, there's, and look, if you

46:20

and I have frustrated, how frustrated

46:22

must he be sometimes? Exactly, exactly.

46:24

This whole compilation I feel like,

46:27

you know, because... Unless somehow it

46:29

reaches out to a wider audience,

46:31

everyone who's going to buy this

46:33

thing likely already owns the majority

46:36

has it. Yeah. So to me,

46:38

I feel like in a way,

46:40

it's just a big middle finger

46:42

to the whole industry to say,

46:45

here guys, here's the last 20

46:47

years on a, what is it,

46:49

it's one CD? One CD, double,

46:52

double album. You ignored me for

46:54

20 years, F you. I mean,

46:56

look, that's why I wanted to

46:58

do this episode. First of all,

47:01

I contacted the label and they

47:03

agreed to send me CDs and

47:05

vinyl. And then once they did

47:07

that, I'm like, well, now you

47:10

gotta go track by track and

47:12

support this. And it's not like

47:14

we're listening to it and we

47:17

hate it. We're just doing it

47:19

because we got free stuff. I've

47:21

always tried to not be a

47:23

person who loves everything. And we're

47:26

going to get there. Because we're

47:28

getting the tail end of this,

47:30

we're going to get there. Yeah.

47:32

But sadly, right now, we're eight

47:35

out of eight. It's perfect. I

47:37

mean, it is literally perfect. Yeah.

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48:09

right, we're going back to Shock

48:11

Denial Anger Acceptance from 2004. This

48:13

album gets, I think this has,

48:16

there's four songs from this album.

48:18

On this compilation, excuse me. And

48:20

this one, this one deserves to

48:22

be here. It is written and

48:25

produced by Rick Springfield. It's called

48:27

Beautiful You. Yeah, buddy. I

48:34

came to stay and

48:36

they set up shop

48:39

inside my head. Beautiful!

49:07

That guitar is rocking Dave. What

49:09

do you tell me about this

49:11

song? What do you think? This

49:13

is another one that they that

49:15

they softened up for AC Radio

49:17

There's a lighter version of this

49:20

one out there, too This is

49:22

not it. This is the one

49:24

directly from the album. This is

49:26

this was funny when this album

49:28

came out I played it for

49:30

Ed played it for my brother

49:32

Ed. Oh boy who was Generally

49:34

dismissive of the entire album, you

49:36

know, just because he likes to

49:38

bust my balls But this was

49:41

the one where he went, see

49:43

that's a good song. So like,

49:45

if Ed, who has been dismissive

49:47

of my fandom of Rick Springfield

49:49

for my entire life, and pointed

49:51

out and go, hey man, that's

49:53

a good one. You know, I

49:55

love this. This one's getting ridiculous

49:57

at this point, I feel. It's

49:59

getting ridiculous. But this was great

50:02

too. Like so good. That course

50:04

is amazing. Come on. It's nine

50:06

out of nine. Thums up for

50:08

me. Now the actual album, Shock

50:10

Denial Anger and Acceptance, it's got

50:12

17 tracks on. That's too many.

50:14

It's a lot. It's a lot.

50:16

We could have trimmed that down

50:18

to 12, make a better album

50:20

for sure. Yeah, it's funny. I

50:23

always felt like that album has

50:25

two halves. And the second half

50:27

is a little more accessible. There's

50:29

a couple of tunes. early in

50:31

the track list that I think,

50:33

you're right, that's a lot of,

50:35

there's a lot of, a lot

50:37

of songs on there. But again,

50:39

if you're, and he's an independent

50:41

artist at that point, if you're

50:44

an independent artist, then you, you

50:46

know, and you wrote all these

50:48

songs and you feel strongly about

50:50

them, then I guess release him

50:52

and we'll decide what we don't,

50:54

but I, but as an album,

50:56

that one, um, could get rid

50:58

of a few songs, okay, all

51:00

right, all right. Once again, we're

51:02

sticking with that album though, from

51:05

2004, Shock, Denial, Anger, Acceptance, written

51:07

and produced by Rick Springfield. This

51:09

song is called Wasted. Here we

51:11

go. just

51:37

like a porno site.

51:39

She wears her tank

51:41

top. Come

52:32

on people. Yeah, yeah, that's my

52:34

favorite song on the on this

52:36

album. I mean I've been lucky

52:39

enough to hear that live a

52:41

couple of times because when when

52:43

he was touring for this album

52:45

he played it was in the

52:47

set list It's so it's just

52:49

so great. I mean it's you

52:51

know when you know the story

52:54

Behind this whole album, you know,

52:56

this whole album was written around

52:58

the time of his, you know,

53:00

is admitted to the book, everything,

53:02

his infidelity, and a lot of

53:04

the songs have to kind of

53:06

revolve around it. You can, there's

53:09

a time, you know, like, I've

53:11

met his wife, you can listen

53:13

to this album, and you end

53:15

up kind of feeling bad for

53:17

her, it's got to be difficult

53:19

for her to, you know, have

53:21

this whole thing, like... I feel

53:23

bad for her sometimes. I try

53:26

to not think about it when

53:28

I listen to these songs, but

53:30

I mean that one, it's so,

53:32

so, I've blasted that song so

53:34

many times. And the sequencing is

53:36

interesting because at the end of

53:38

Beautiful You, there's a little like

53:41

acoustic intro that feeds right into

53:43

this one that's the way it

53:45

is on shock. It's the fact

53:47

that they kept them together here

53:49

is cool. Yeah,

53:51

that is cool. I like I

53:53

like when they do that You

53:56

know because there's a lot of

53:58

songs that go right into yeah

54:00

Like, uh, there's a couple of

54:02

journey ones I can't, I'm, I'm

54:04

drawing a blank right now, but

54:06

yeah, I know what you mean.

54:09

And, uh, and yeah, this is,

54:11

this is just a great song.

54:13

And, um, you know what, Rick

54:15

Springfield's a good lyricist when he

54:17

really puts the pen to paper

54:19

and, you know, you know, it's

54:22

great. So, oh, yeah, we had,

54:24

we had, we had 10 thumbs

54:26

up. So, we are, so. We

54:28

are, let's, let's, let's. Look that's

54:30

so far 10 for 10 right

54:32

there 10 songs is an album

54:35

right there Yeah, so you if

54:37

you people you could give you

54:39

you're listening to 10 in a

54:41

row right now and everything's good

54:43

Everything's a winner everything's a winner

54:45

and now we go to back

54:48

to rocket science and this song

54:50

is written and produced by Matt

54:52

Bissonnet and Rick Springfield and this

54:54

one's called that one Hit

55:10

me hard, put me face

55:12

down in the dirt. I

55:14

never ever felt this pain

55:16

inside before. Her eyes seemed

55:19

to show me to the

55:21

door, even when she knew

55:23

I wanted more. I could

55:25

have should have ended us

55:27

tonight. But I'm not gonna

55:29

lie, I didn't want to

55:31

be free, but she's staring.

55:53

all right again

55:55

that's from the

55:58

country tinge record.

56:00

What do you think, Dave? I

56:02

love this one too. And this

56:04

one, it's funny, listen, I've

56:06

been to well over, I don't

56:09

even know how many shows I've

56:11

been to. How many of you do

56:13

you think? 30? Oh, hell no. It's

56:15

so, it's got to be over a

56:17

hundred. Over a hundred Rick

56:19

Springfield shows. Yeah, it has to

56:22

be. Oh, since and keep in

56:24

mind too. I didn't see him

56:26

until 90, like 99. I missed him

56:28

when I was a kid because I was

56:31

too young to go to the show. Then

56:33

nobody would go with me. Then, you know,

56:35

I was finally going to see him at

56:37

the Man Music Center during the Rock

56:39

of Life tour. It gets canceled because

56:42

of the collarbone thing. Then he does

56:44

a show at a club when I'm

56:46

in college. There's a show in the

56:49

club in Philly. And I'm using

56:51

my brother's old idea at the

56:53

time to get into bars at

56:55

college. He gets wind to the fact

56:57

that I'm going to use it to go

56:59

to the show and takes it while I'm

57:01

you know takes it from my room while

57:03

I'm not around What a mean brother because

57:06

he claims because oh I don't want them

57:08

to they're going to catch you and they're

57:10

going to stick it up on the wall

57:12

I don't want to see my face every

57:14

time I go in that place So I

57:16

had a bunch of mishaps as far as

57:18

seeing him live so from 98 99 on

57:20

is when all my shows started it has

57:23

to be well over 100 at this point

57:25

How many of those did you see by

57:27

yourself? How many shows have I gone

57:29

to solo? Only a handful. Most of...

57:31

Listen, my wife's a saint. All right,

57:34

if we haven't already established that on

57:36

this show, she's gone to the large

57:38

majority of those shows with me and

57:41

it's always just a funny thing because

57:43

you think it's the other way around,

57:45

right? It's the husband being dragged to

57:47

the Springfield show. Well, in this case,

57:50

it's the opposite. But here's the thing.

57:52

This is a show that you

57:54

can take your wife to. It's

57:56

not like your favorite band is

57:58

Pantera. True. That. The woman's a

58:01

saint who just goes to the Pantera

58:03

shows because their wife, because their husband

58:05

needs a date. Yeah, but I mean,

58:07

but there's a repetitive, there is a

58:10

repetitiveness to it, is there not, like,

58:12

if you're not the huge fan, you're

58:14

going and you're seeing the show over

58:17

and over and over again. Yeah. You

58:19

know, I don't blame her for being

58:21

tired, you know, and we've just, we've

58:24

got to the point now where we

58:26

just try to find new people who

58:28

have just try to find new people

58:31

who have never seen him, My Rick

58:33

Springfield date is always Mike Schmidt because

58:35

he loves him too. So it's easy.

58:38

I go, dude, I got free ticket.

58:40

I love to go see a Rick

58:42

Springfield with Mike, or Rick Springfield show

58:45

with Mike Schmidt. And Mike just says,

58:47

I'm in, dude. We're done. All right,

58:49

keep going. We're still talking about that

58:52

one. Yes. So this is a song

58:54

where like, after you've seen the show,

58:56

you have to have to have been

58:59

a fan for so many years and

59:01

after you've seen the show so many

59:03

times. And he works this one into

59:06

your playlist or your set list. Like

59:08

I get more excited to hear these

59:10

songs at this point than I do

59:13

like the old classics. Sure. Which speaks

59:15

volumes. Like I don't care how big

59:17

a fan you are of a band

59:20

or a person. The new stuff never

59:22

rivals the old stuff. And that is

59:24

not the case here. I would rather

59:27

hear these new songs. then the old,

59:29

not to say the old stuff's not

59:31

great, and it is, but I'd rather

59:34

hear the new stuff over the old

59:36

stuff at this point. And that's really,

59:38

that's a big deal. Yeah, if you,

59:41

if he played 15 songs from this

59:43

compilation and then threw in, you know,

59:45

four of the biggest of the kids,

59:47

you would, you would love it. I

59:50

would love it. Unfortunately, the people who

59:52

are going to the show, who are

59:54

there to hear. Jesse's girl don't talk

59:57

to strain you know they wouldn't you

59:59

know they'd be like what the hell

1:00:01

is this which is a crime but

1:00:04

it that's the reality of it and

1:00:06

I understand the reality of it he's

1:00:08

got to do what's going to please

1:00:11

the majority of the audience. When I

1:00:13

was, I was working last week and

1:00:15

I waited on a woman. She had

1:00:18

a Joan Jet t-shirt on and I

1:00:20

said, oh, do you like Joan Jet?

1:00:22

And she said, I love Joan Jet.

1:00:25

I've always loved Joan Jet. I've always

1:00:27

loved Joan Jet. I've always loved Joan

1:00:29

Jet. I'm like, oh, how many times

1:00:32

have you seen her in concert? Oh,

1:00:34

what are you waiting for? What are

1:00:36

you waiting for? You know what I

1:00:39

mean? I mean, outside of like having

1:00:41

some sort of hearing deficiency where you

1:00:43

would be, you know, injured, you would

1:00:46

damage your hair, like if you are

1:00:48

perfectly healthy to go to the show,

1:00:50

what's stopping you from going? And look,

1:00:53

Billy Idol and Joan Jet are relatively

1:00:55

still young. I mean, they're in their

1:00:57

early 60s. That's still young. But anyone

1:01:00

who says, oh, I've never seen... Elton

1:01:02

John, or I've never seen the eagles,

1:01:04

or I've never seen the stone. What,

1:01:07

these guys are not going to be

1:01:09

around much longer. Well, and those men.

1:01:11

I mean, they could be, but they

1:01:14

won't be doing it. They might not

1:01:16

be doing it much longer. Well, and

1:01:18

I could see, you know, like, there's

1:01:21

also the issue of cost, too. Like,

1:01:23

I don't want to be insensitive to

1:01:25

the fact that we don't know, you

1:01:27

know, maybe this woman all her life

1:01:30

couldn't afford a concerta concerta concert ticket,

1:01:32

Eagles or Rolling Stones like they're just

1:01:34

cost prohibitive at this point, but a

1:01:37

Joan Jet show You can afford that

1:01:39

you could probably afford it, you know

1:01:41

If you think about it this way

1:01:44

if you've never seen her Yeah, and

1:01:46

you love her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:01:48

then you can you can throw down

1:01:51

the money. I saw her open for

1:01:53

I don't know if it was enough.

1:01:55

I don't know if it's considered open

1:01:58

or a dual a dual bill, but

1:02:00

I saw her with Brian Adams a

1:02:02

company I saw that too. It's great

1:02:05

And then if you get a double

1:02:07

bill like that, you can split your

1:02:09

ticket. Like if your ticket was $150,

1:02:12

you can go, well, would I pay

1:02:14

$75 to see Brian Adams and see

1:02:16

$75 for Jones yet? Okay. You have

1:02:19

to justify the madness, right? Justify the

1:02:21

madness. But she doesn't have, she doesn't

1:02:23

have the kind of cash, Dave Fostini

1:02:26

has to see a hundred plus shows

1:02:28

of Rick Spring. I can't even, like,

1:02:30

if I tried to attach, although you

1:02:33

gotta keep in mind too. There was

1:02:35

a long time when it was not

1:02:37

expensive to go see. That's true. We're

1:02:40

talking about like $30. Yeah. You know,

1:02:42

the tickets weren't more than 50 bucks.

1:02:44

Like I remember going seeing the Borgata

1:02:47

in Atlantic City. In Atlantic City. In

1:02:49

Atlantic City. There's a great little that's

1:02:51

just in the music box. It's this

1:02:54

great little venue. Every ticket in the

1:02:56

place was $50. So it's like, you

1:02:58

know, okay, let's do it. Yeah. Mid-90s

1:03:01

when I first moved to Los Angeles,

1:03:03

my favorite band of all time is

1:03:05

Cheap Trick. They would come through three

1:03:07

or four times a year, and every

1:03:10

time they would come through, they'd play

1:03:12

like a different venue. House of Blues,

1:03:14

the Palladian, the Avalon, Daroxi, whatever. And

1:03:17

yeah. And that's when they were, they

1:03:19

weren't opening for another band, so they

1:03:21

weren't playing the dirty dozen. They're playing

1:03:24

super, long, super deep cuts. It was

1:03:26

amazing. Yep. So, okay, so that one,

1:03:28

we both thumbs up on that one.

1:03:31

Yep, so we're now, is that 11?

1:03:33

Yep. Now, I will say this. There

1:03:35

are no more songs coming up from

1:03:38

the Rocket Science album. So, if I

1:03:40

may. Mm-hmm. My, of these 11 songs

1:03:42

so far, if I were to make

1:03:45

a change, I would remove, light this

1:03:47

party up, and replace it with the

1:03:49

best damn thing. What do you think

1:03:52

about it? Mm. Yeah. Yeah. I might

1:03:54

agree with you. I might agree with

1:03:56

you there. Like, I was kind of

1:03:59

shocked that the best damn thing wasn't

1:04:01

on this. But I think light this

1:04:03

party up. was a song that they

1:04:06

chose as a single, right? If there's...

1:04:08

I think down I think down was

1:04:10

the technically the single I know they

1:04:13

shot a video for down Okay, I

1:04:15

don't know I don't think they shot

1:04:17

a video for for like this party

1:04:20

up But yeah, you know when now

1:04:22

that I'm thinking about it and I'm

1:04:24

playing that I'm playing best damn thing

1:04:27

in my head Yeah, it's great. It's

1:04:29

yeah, I could be on board with

1:04:31

that swap That said it's still 11

1:04:34

for 11 all right Moving on, we

1:04:36

are now back to Venus in Overdrive,

1:04:38

a song written and produced by Matt

1:04:41

Bissonnet from 2008. And this is a

1:04:43

more serious song. This one's called Three

1:04:45

Warning Shots. And Dave will tell us

1:04:47

about the song. a

1:05:45

little bit different sound on

1:05:47

this one not as a

1:05:49

beat and poppy and positive.

1:05:52

What do you think of

1:05:54

three warning shots? I like

1:05:56

the song a lot. It's

1:05:58

about Mark, you know, basically

1:06:00

about Mark David Chapman and

1:06:02

the assassination of the considered

1:06:05

an assassination. I guess so,

1:06:07

right? John Lennon. Yeah. Probably

1:06:09

included because of the topical,

1:06:11

topical, whatever, of the topical

1:06:13

nature of the song itself.

1:06:16

Venus is such a great

1:06:18

album. There are other songs

1:06:20

on Venus that I might

1:06:22

have put in place of

1:06:24

this one. I'll miss that

1:06:26

someday is great. It's really

1:06:29

just a great song, great

1:06:31

lyrically. And I was surprised

1:06:33

and disappointed that it wasn't

1:06:35

included in this compilation, but

1:06:37

that again, it's not going

1:06:40

to keep me from giving

1:06:42

this one a thumbs up.

1:06:44

I really, you know, as

1:06:46

the more serious, it's more

1:06:48

serious themes come. I think

1:06:50

up until this point we've

1:06:53

kind of all, just looking

1:06:55

back at the list here.

1:06:58

Topically, we've had a similar

1:07:00

themes in all these songs.

1:07:02

They've all kind of been

1:07:04

love-related, relationship-related songs. Except for,

1:07:06

I guess, like, this party

1:07:08

up, just a party song.

1:07:10

But, yeah. Thematically, this one

1:07:13

is definitely a little bit

1:07:15

of a departure. Still a

1:07:17

rocker, but a departure. And

1:07:19

I'm fine with it being

1:07:21

included. I'm just more disappointed

1:07:23

that... I'm a set someday

1:07:25

it was off. And

1:07:28

what about St. Sahara? Oh my

1:07:30

gosh. Yeah, St. Sahara is great.

1:07:32

I mean, if you know the

1:07:35

story behind it, it's even more,

1:07:37

it's even, I remember, you know,

1:07:39

it was a moment where I

1:07:42

remember hearing, like Julia, when she

1:07:44

was younger, singing St. Sahara in

1:07:46

her room, and it's like, oh,

1:07:49

yeah, you know, you know, I

1:07:51

mean, that was, I talked a

1:07:53

lot about that song in my

1:07:55

interview with Rick and he. He

1:07:58

started tearing up and then I

1:08:00

was tearing up and Boy, it's

1:08:02

hard. That story is hard. Look

1:08:05

it up, folks. Google it. St.

1:08:07

Sahara, Rick Springfield. All right, track

1:08:09

13 is going to be lucky

1:08:12

13. Well, what's the, what's your

1:08:14

vote for three warning shots? Um,

1:08:16

more serious, but how can you,

1:08:19

how can you give it a

1:08:21

thumbs down? All right, we're cruising.

1:08:23

All right, now, here we go.

1:08:25

This one's from 2019. The album

1:08:28

is called Orcheating My Life. This

1:08:30

is a song called World Start

1:08:32

Turning, which originally appeared on Rock

1:08:35

of Life. And so this is

1:08:37

an orchestral version. That's how it's

1:08:39

billed. World Start Turning, parentheses, orchestral

1:08:42

version. Let's hear it and then

1:08:44

discuss it. Here we go. And

1:09:30

then

1:09:33

I

1:09:37

woke

1:09:41

up.

1:10:21

Right, so first of all, I

1:10:23

love the song World Start Turning,

1:10:26

the original version from Rock of

1:10:28

Blood. I love that. As I

1:10:30

do too. So, there'd be no

1:10:32

reason why I wouldn't like this

1:10:34

version too. I just want to

1:10:36

say that the orchestra is very

1:10:38

minimal. It almost doesn't sound like

1:10:40

a different song to me. Or

1:10:43

a different version. There's a lot

1:10:45

of layers, a lot of layers

1:10:47

going on here. And is this

1:10:49

a new vocal taker? Is that

1:10:51

the vocal taker new? And it

1:10:53

struck me, it was listening, like

1:10:55

I said, I was listening today,

1:10:58

it struck me how great the

1:11:00

vocal is on this. Yes. Because

1:11:02

it is new and it's strong

1:11:04

as ever. I mean, it really

1:11:06

is. I have an issue with

1:11:08

re-records in general. Yeah. Because if

1:11:10

you're going to, if you're doing

1:11:13

a re-record and the effort is

1:11:15

being put into it to, you

1:11:17

know, make it sound like the

1:11:19

original, there's some precautions, now I'm

1:11:21

a drummer, so I'm more sensitive

1:11:23

to it. There's some percussion stuff

1:11:25

on this song that isn't the

1:11:28

same as the original, which bugs

1:11:30

me to no end. I wasn't

1:11:32

a huge, this whole, you know,

1:11:34

I know a lot of artists

1:11:36

did it, and I hoped. that

1:11:38

it would be different with Rick

1:11:40

Springfield's stuff because a lot of

1:11:43

his music is very layered and

1:11:45

I thought that with the orchestra

1:11:47

it could really bring something new

1:11:49

into it. I don't know if

1:11:51

it's how it. mixed or recorded

1:11:53

but I'm with you like I'm

1:11:55

straining to hear the orchestra in

1:11:57

these recordings and that should not

1:12:00

be the case it should be

1:12:02

it should be up front as

1:12:04

much as possible it should be

1:12:06

driving everything it should be and

1:12:08

I just I kept after track

1:12:10

after track I kept waiting to

1:12:12

be like all right where is

1:12:15

that where is it where is

1:12:17

it where is it where is

1:12:19

the not to quote a Billy

1:12:21

Joel song where is the And

1:12:23

on a song like this, like

1:12:25

when you do hear it, you

1:12:27

go like, oh wow, there, you

1:12:30

know, there it is, and then

1:12:32

it just disappears again. So like,

1:12:34

this is the first one where

1:12:36

I'm like, I'm not, we're not

1:12:38

getting a thumbs up out of

1:12:40

me. And then all the other

1:12:42

thing is, to me, it's got

1:12:45

no business being on this, like,

1:12:47

this compilation is a celebration of

1:12:49

his material post, you know, 98,

1:12:51

99 on. Yeah, I get it.

1:12:53

It's a new recording. It's a

1:12:55

new production I get all that

1:12:57

but it's an old song It's

1:13:00

a song from before and there

1:13:02

are songs like I said You

1:13:04

know, I'll miss that someday is

1:13:06

a perfect example that deserve to

1:13:08

be on here more than the

1:13:10

re-recording of an older track in

1:13:12

my opinion I agree with you.

1:13:14

I still have to give it

1:13:17

a thumbs up because I like

1:13:19

the song But I agree that

1:13:21

it shouldn't be on this compilation

1:13:23

and I agree if you're going

1:13:25

to do an orchestra album, let's

1:13:27

give it to me. I remember

1:13:29

looking in it, I remember looking

1:13:32

in it, because I believe Maddie

1:13:34

Spindell, Rock and Peace, I think

1:13:36

he was, I think he was

1:13:38

still like behind, you know, he

1:13:40

was still engineering the album at

1:13:42

this point, and I was surprised,

1:13:44

because I thought for sure it

1:13:47

was somebody knew. Yeah. Because it

1:13:49

just didn't, it just didn't do

1:13:51

it for it. I didn't hear

1:13:53

it was very, very strange. And

1:13:56

now here's the problem

1:13:58

with this song being

1:14:00

on. this album is

1:14:02

the next song is

1:14:04

from Rick's comeback album

1:14:06

after he took a

1:14:08

10-year hiatus from the

1:14:10

album Karma and this

1:14:12

is the only song

1:14:14

represented from Karma yeah

1:14:16

on this compilation and

1:14:18

there are many songs

1:14:21

on Karma that would

1:14:23

be better to include

1:14:25

than World Start turning.

1:14:27

I agree. What, but,

1:14:29

what, but is there

1:14:31

one specifically that you

1:14:33

can, you can think

1:14:35

of? I mean, religion

1:14:37

of the heart. Um,

1:14:39

free? I like in

1:14:41

Veronica's head, I like

1:14:43

a lot of me.

1:14:45

Yeah, I think I

1:14:47

would have gone with,

1:14:49

uh, I think I

1:14:51

would have gone with,

1:14:53

uh, I think I

1:14:55

would have gone with

1:14:57

Karma. I love the

1:14:59

song, Karma. But yeah,

1:15:02

I'm with you too.

1:15:04

I mean, I love

1:15:06

Beautiful Prize, but it's

1:15:08

too dark lyrically. Yeah,

1:15:10

it's a weird, beautiful

1:15:12

prize is a weird

1:15:14

one, man. Because it's

1:15:16

an up-tempo song with

1:15:18

a very dark theme.

1:15:20

Yes. You don't know

1:15:22

how to feel when

1:15:24

you're, you know, you're

1:15:26

singing along with that

1:15:28

song and you're like,

1:15:30

oh, gross. Yeah. I

1:15:32

said, this next one

1:15:34

is easily top five

1:15:36

for me from this

1:15:38

album. It's written always.

1:15:41

something. It's

1:16:32

always something written by Rick Springfield

1:16:34

produced by Rick Springfield and his

1:16:36

one of his original producers Bill

1:16:38

Drescher. Yeah. Right. Thoughts on, it's

1:16:40

always something. This is the song

1:16:42

that I sang with him on

1:16:44

that trip because I've always loved

1:16:46

this song. That was a surreal.

1:16:48

Just to have the opportunity to

1:16:50

do it and then have the

1:16:52

circumstance of being approached before the

1:16:54

show and one of his managers

1:16:56

comes up hands me the set

1:16:58

list. For that night's show and

1:17:00

goes, what do you want to

1:17:02

say? Like, are you kidding me?

1:17:04

That one kind of jumped out

1:17:06

at me because it was a

1:17:08

favorite of two fans, two sisters,

1:17:10

Nancy and Penny, who sadly, we

1:17:12

lost Penny to COVID. But it

1:17:14

was one of their favorite songs

1:17:16

and they were there on the

1:17:18

trip. And it's always been a

1:17:20

favorite of mine and I love

1:17:23

the theme of it, you know,

1:17:25

the stuff about his father and

1:17:27

everything. So like that one just

1:17:29

stood out to me and I

1:17:31

was like, that's the one I

1:17:33

want to do. So I've always

1:17:35

loved this song. And again, it's

1:17:37

another one where like, I don't

1:17:39

get it. I remember calling, this

1:17:41

is this, because this came out

1:17:43

when you could still call radio

1:17:45

stations and ask. Yeah. And I

1:17:47

remember calling and talking to somebody

1:17:49

on WPLJ, which sadly no longer

1:17:51

exists, but they were a. Hotty,

1:17:53

C station in New York and

1:17:55

having a conversation, they were like

1:17:57

testing. that song out and playing

1:17:59

it, you know, at night or

1:18:01

like late at night or whatever

1:18:03

it's see when they still cared

1:18:05

about what their playlist were and

1:18:07

they weren't dominated by somebody in

1:18:09

a suit, you know. And I

1:18:11

just, I don't understand how it

1:18:13

wasn't a, that one too is

1:18:15

another boggles my mind at the

1:18:17

time. I mean, it's got a

1:18:19

little, the production's a little dated

1:18:21

at this point, but again, the

1:18:23

song's like, what, how many years

1:18:25

old, 30 years old, 30 years

1:18:27

old, at this point? My copy's

1:18:29

autograph, I don't know if you

1:18:31

can see that. So is mine,

1:18:33

Pat. He did an in-store in

1:18:35

Los Angeles warehouse records. I left

1:18:37

work early. I like found out

1:18:39

about it and I called my

1:18:41

friend. I'm like, he re-screenfills doing

1:18:43

a in-store down to the Beverly

1:18:46

Center at the warehouse records. So

1:18:48

we go down and I have

1:18:50

vinyl with me and then I

1:18:52

bought the CD and he signed

1:18:54

that, but you can only get

1:18:56

one thing signed and I had

1:18:58

two vinyl albums. So there's a

1:19:00

girl behind me, she doesn't have

1:19:02

anything to sign. Right. Give it

1:19:04

to her. I go, get this

1:19:06

sign for me. I go, and

1:19:08

if he was personalizing everything, I

1:19:10

go, and when he asked you

1:19:12

what your name is, just say

1:19:14

it's Pat. Because that's, you know,

1:19:16

you know, the Saturday Night Live

1:19:18

sketch. I'm Pat. So she goes,

1:19:20

okay. And so she gets a

1:19:22

sign, she gives it to me.

1:19:24

And on this album, it says

1:19:26

to Pat, love Rick Springfield, Rick

1:19:28

Springfield. Because he was signing it.

1:19:30

Thank you. This time period is

1:19:32

a funny story. So this is

1:19:34

a funny story. So I don't

1:19:36

count this as my it is

1:19:38

my first official show, but I

1:19:40

don't count it as my first

1:19:42

show. So he did a show.

1:19:44

This is right when he started

1:19:46

touring again. Karma was I don't

1:19:48

even know if it was out

1:19:50

in the US yet. And a

1:19:52

station in Delaware called W. Was

1:19:54

doing like a birthday show or

1:19:56

something where they had multiple artists.

1:19:58

And he was on the bill.

1:20:00

So Nancy and I, back up,

1:20:02

drive down to Delaware. Now, this

1:20:04

is in the days of America.

1:20:06

So there's a Rick Springfield chat

1:20:09

room, which I am in. And

1:20:11

you can imagine, not a lot

1:20:13

of dudes. So Nancy and I

1:20:15

drive down to this show. I

1:20:17

don't even want to admit this

1:20:19

because I'm going to get killed.

1:20:21

I had made a shirt because

1:20:23

he couldn't buy him at the

1:20:25

time. You mean a tube top?

1:20:27

Because it's a lady's baby. I'm

1:20:30

wearing this homemade Rick Springfield shirt. Nancy

1:20:32

and I are approaching the venue. Now

1:20:35

I guess in the AOL chat room

1:20:37

I must have mentioned this show. So

1:20:39

Nancy's with me. We're recently married. I

1:20:42

don't know if we've been married for

1:20:44

two years at this point. We're approaching

1:20:46

the venue and there's a group of

1:20:49

women waiting there. And one of them

1:20:51

looks at me and goes, are you

1:20:53

dating? It was a cool show and

1:20:56

then the first official look like, oh

1:20:58

my God, what have I got myself

1:21:00

into? Yeah, you know, so then she

1:21:03

just I deed me from the fact

1:21:05

that I had been in this AOL

1:21:07

chat room and said I was coming

1:21:10

to the show making a shirt. Yeah,

1:21:12

so, yeah, so that was the and

1:21:14

it was great. That was a cool

1:21:17

show and then the first official one,

1:21:19

I was the WPLJ. It was like

1:21:21

a listener appreciation cruise where it was

1:21:24

this dinner. Both that goes out around

1:21:26

the statue of liberty and he was

1:21:28

I mean that night was that's a

1:21:30

whole other story that night was Unbelievable

1:21:33

I was standing. I mean right in

1:21:35

front of me the only thing separating

1:21:37

me even Rick Springfield was like a

1:21:40

velvet rope that you see your boner

1:21:42

It was my yes was my it

1:21:44

was my my erection. I mean Holy

1:21:47

shit that show it was a it

1:21:49

was a dream it was a dream

1:21:51

come true. And then after the show,

1:21:54

we took pictures and like it was

1:21:56

just. Now, this is recent enough that

1:21:58

you can still remember that and bring

1:22:01

up those memories of being that close.

1:22:03

Oh, yeah. Like my, again, my favorite

1:22:05

band's Cheap Trick, the second time I

1:22:08

saw him was at the Johnstown War

1:22:10

Memorial, and we were right at the

1:22:12

barricade before the stage. So right in

1:22:15

the front. But that was 1981. So

1:22:17

I don't have any, you know, you

1:22:19

know, specifically. You know, because it's been

1:22:22

so all I know is we were

1:22:24

we couldn't believe our good fortune. Yeah,

1:22:26

to be that close. Yeah, I had

1:22:29

a thing. They had a thing called

1:22:31

festival floor. So you bought a floor

1:22:33

ticket and you got there early and

1:22:36

they opened the doors. This is how

1:22:38

the people died at the who's here.

1:22:40

Yeah, really run. And you just ran

1:22:42

in and ran to the front. All

1:22:45

right, continue. No, you know, they had

1:22:47

at the WSTW show in Delaware. They

1:22:49

sold. album cover on the front of

1:22:52

him. I didn't have to make this

1:22:54

one. And I wore it to this

1:22:56

PLJ thing. During the show, he saw

1:22:59

my shirt and asked me to give

1:23:01

it to him so he could show

1:23:03

it to the crowd. I literally took

1:23:06

my, I had a shirt on underneath

1:23:08

obviously. Thank God. Yeah for everyone involved

1:23:10

Nancy included what if you didn't what

1:23:13

if you didn't would you have given

1:23:15

it to him? No what I mean

1:23:17

what I should have done was I

1:23:20

should have suggested because I could have

1:23:22

done it I should have just stepped

1:23:24

over his floor monitor and showed everyone

1:23:27

you know next to him right it's

1:23:29

gonna snapped a couple of pictures we

1:23:31

have pictures anyway but but yeah you

1:23:34

like help my shirt up to show

1:23:36

it to everybody it was just it

1:23:38

was un it was the unthinkable the

1:23:41

unthinkable that night And I you know

1:23:43

you have that experience and it's the

1:23:45

second time you've ever seen someone you

1:23:48

chase it for the rest of your

1:23:50

life I mean that's really kind of

1:23:52

it's in it's in a lot of

1:23:54

ways it's a blessing and a curse

1:23:57

because it gives you these amazing memories

1:23:59

but then you're chasing that experience forever

1:24:01

because you want to you want to

1:24:04

relive it. Do you have tickets for

1:24:06

any upcoming Rick Springfield shows? I currently

1:24:08

do not. But you're gonna, you're not

1:24:11

done going. No, I don't think I'm

1:24:13

done going. I know, certainly not, but

1:24:15

this particular tour, I mean, it's just

1:24:18

gotten to the point where it's, it's,

1:24:20

they're pricing, they're pricing me out of

1:24:22

these things, Pat. I mean, you know,

1:24:25

it's like 180, 175, 180 bucks. times

1:24:27

two tickets. times two tickets and like

1:24:29

you know and we just moved and

1:24:32

and you know I go to the

1:24:34

concert you pay for parking you probably

1:24:36

get you get a drink you get

1:24:39

food I mean it doesn't end with

1:24:41

just a ticket price right and I'm

1:24:43

in English I'm a bad place bad

1:24:46

spot in the country too right I'm

1:24:48

in the New York area so prices

1:24:50

are sky high anyway you know if

1:24:53

I was going to see that this

1:24:55

same tour in Wisconsin probably not as

1:24:57

much as much money but um Yeah,

1:25:00

I don't I hate to do it

1:25:02

and then I've been with you on

1:25:04

Nancy's been hearing this for 20 years

1:25:06

the old This could be the last

1:25:09

time Nancy we have to go Well,

1:25:11

he's not a young man either. No,

1:25:13

he's not well, but you know, it's

1:25:16

just that I've been using that excuse

1:25:18

forever Got me on to two trips

1:25:20

for Christ's sake, but uh, he's not

1:25:23

he's not old either. I mean, he's

1:25:25

in he looks great He still think

1:25:27

he has any intention of retiring anytime

1:25:30

soon. No way, no way, and he

1:25:32

still puts on a great show. He

1:25:34

does, but time waits for nobody and

1:25:37

you know, there is an expiration date

1:25:39

on this sort of thing and It

1:25:41

can't be that far off. So yeah,

1:25:44

there's a part of me. It's like,

1:25:46

you really want to sit out this

1:25:48

one because who knows? What is amazing

1:25:51

to me is I never ever in

1:25:53

my life thought that there was a

1:25:55

six-year age difference between Mick Jagger and

1:25:58

Rick Springfield. I would have always thought

1:26:00

there was like a 15 or 20.

1:26:02

age difference between those two. But that's,

1:26:05

they're very, they're in the same demographic,

1:26:07

those two guys. Well, yeah, because the,

1:26:09

because he caught the, he caught the

1:26:12

majority of his attention. I mean, he

1:26:14

was already like 30 years old. Like,

1:26:16

Jesse's girl comes around, he's already like,

1:26:19

he's already been in the business for

1:26:21

20, you know, not 20, but 15,

1:26:23

close to 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. And

1:26:25

then people thought he was in overnight

1:26:28

taxation. Right. Right. All right. This is

1:26:30

a song written and produced by Rick

1:26:32

Springfield. This is from 2018. The album

1:26:35

is called The Snake King. Dave, tell

1:26:37

us about that album. What's going on

1:26:39

with this album? The Snake King. The

1:26:42

Blue's album, right? The Blue's album, which

1:26:44

I... Listen. You get to the point...

1:26:46

Okay. I try to think of it

1:26:49

from his perspective. First of all, you

1:26:51

get to the point in your career.

1:26:53

You've done everything you want to do.

1:26:56

You're incredibly successful. You get to the

1:26:58

point where you're just like, you know

1:27:00

what? I want to do a blues

1:27:03

album. So screw everybody. I'm doing a

1:27:05

blues album. No one likes that. No

1:27:07

one wants. Well, it's not that nobody

1:27:10

wants it. I actually heard it and

1:27:12

thought, hey, man, this might be pretty

1:27:14

cool. But, um, I mean, it's just

1:27:17

like, hey, you know what, the last

1:27:19

three albums I've made. Possibly the best

1:27:21

of my career and and the general

1:27:24

public didn't really pay attention So you

1:27:26

know what I'm doing whatever the hell

1:27:28

I want and I can't blame them

1:27:31

for it Do I love the Snake

1:27:33

King? I don't are there some tracks

1:27:35

on it that I really really like?

1:27:37

Absolutely, but as a whole work No,

1:27:40

it's not my favorite album at all,

1:27:42

but there's some of the stuff on

1:27:44

there. I really enjoy All right, and

1:27:47

let's find out if the one loan

1:27:49

track from the Snake King called the

1:27:51

voodoo house. Let's find out if this

1:27:54

is one of your faves. Here we

1:27:56

go. All

1:28:00

three years. Baby,

1:28:33

baby, come on down to

1:28:35

the voodoo house Through

1:28:38

to the light of the

1:28:40

room, well in the deep dark

1:28:43

sound The gray -grey dirt in

1:28:45

the smell from the witch's

1:28:47

room I

1:28:49

got a voodoo dog,

1:28:51

you right here Come

1:28:54

on down, come

1:28:56

on down All

1:29:08

right, what do you think, Dave?

1:29:10

Is that one of your favorites

1:29:12

from me, Snake King? I do

1:29:14

like it. He plays it in

1:29:16

concert all the time. This isn't

1:29:18

the only song in

1:29:20

the the Snake house

1:29:23

hey either. It's a live track,

1:29:25

but -ya song. The next one?

1:29:27

Yeah. I thought it was

1:29:29

on, no, no, You

1:29:31

didn't skip one, did you? And

1:29:33

yeah, I, I, I, I, I,

1:29:35

I, I, I don't have a

1:29:37

weird not have

1:29:39

a weird relationship

1:29:41

with this song

1:29:43

Sometimes I really

1:29:45

like it, sometimes I

1:29:47

really like it. I

1:29:49

probably would have

1:29:52

gone within the

1:29:54

land of the would

1:29:56

have this the land of

1:29:58

the But I

1:30:00

will give it

1:30:02

a thumbs will give it

1:30:04

a thumbs down

1:30:06

from me thumbs down from

1:30:08

me. Okay. Okay. So, yeah, I

1:30:10

just, I I mean

1:30:12

And I just, and there's a

1:30:14

band that you and I both

1:30:16

like, and they're doing a, they're

1:30:18

getting ready to release a blues

1:30:20

album, the Dead Dazies. I mean,

1:30:23

well, but I thought, you know,

1:30:25

when in comparison to the majority

1:30:27

of the album, this song's pretty

1:30:29

accessible. Some of the other stuff

1:30:31

is very, yes, very bluesy, different

1:30:33

and bluesy. But again, like with

1:30:35

the country album, let's make it

1:30:37

a little twangy, and with this

1:30:39

one's like, like, I don't know

1:30:41

what the other song is from

1:30:43

the Snake King that you're talking

1:30:45

about. I don't see it. The

1:30:47

name escapes me only to pull

1:30:49

it up here. A little demon.

1:30:52

Okay, I'm actually, I'm looking at

1:30:54

my Snake King. Oh, there it

1:30:56

is. The Deep One and Two.

1:30:58

Okay. So, yeah. The reason I

1:31:00

don't know it, know that is

1:31:02

it's the next song and it

1:31:04

says unreleased live recording and it

1:31:06

doesn't tell you. It's not from

1:31:08

any album. So this would be

1:31:10

one of those rarities. So this

1:31:12

is Little Demon Live, written and

1:31:14

produced by Rick Springfield. This is

1:31:16

one of the rarities, unreleased live

1:31:18

recording. Let's find out if we

1:31:21

like Little Demon. I

1:31:53

don't know how much more to

1:31:56

listen to. Dave, what are your

1:31:58

thoughts on Little Demon? I like

1:32:00

Little Demon. of this track is

1:32:03

weird to me. It doesn't sound

1:32:05

to me like it came off

1:32:07

a board. It almost sounds like

1:32:10

a really good recording that was

1:32:12

done. They set microphones up off

1:32:14

the stage. Does not sound like

1:32:17

a board recording to me, which

1:32:19

is weird. However, on the other,

1:32:21

the flip side of that coin

1:32:24

is that I mean... When

1:32:27

you're listening to a Rick Springfield

1:32:29

live recording, and he admits to

1:32:31

it, he cops to it in

1:32:33

the greatest hits alive set, that

1:32:35

he is a bit of a

1:32:37

perfectionist, so he'll go back and

1:32:39

put some overdubs on there to

1:32:41

fix things. This sounds to me

1:32:43

like it was that nobody touched

1:32:45

it like this is live and

1:32:47

you're gonna this is you know

1:32:49

what you hear is what you

1:32:51

get and it is a true

1:32:53

live warts and all recording not

1:32:55

that there are any warts in

1:32:57

there But I like that I

1:32:59

think the the studio version of

1:33:02

this song is better. I mean

1:33:04

there's a Yeah, this is a

1:33:06

certain energy to a live performance,

1:33:08

but I feel like and plus

1:33:10

you don't get the whole other

1:33:12

part that whole instrumental part with

1:33:14

Little Demon. You're missing that from

1:33:16

the live thing. So why they

1:33:18

included the live track is a

1:33:20

little strange to me, but it

1:33:22

is strange. And I don't know

1:33:24

if I can give this one.

1:33:26

I think I'm, I don't think

1:33:28

I can either. No. So what's

1:33:30

the scoring right now out of

1:33:32

16 songs? 16. I have one,

1:33:34

two, four, five, six, seven, eight,

1:33:36

nine, 10, 12, 13, 14 thumbs.

1:33:39

That's great. One, two, three, four,

1:33:41

five, six, seven, eight, nine, nine,

1:33:43

ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, 14 to

1:33:45

14. All right, we, so look,

1:33:47

we like the majority of the

1:33:49

album. Oh, absolutely. It's an amazing

1:33:51

comp. Yeah, now. It just towards

1:33:53

the end here. It just starts

1:33:55

to, yeah. It goes off the

1:33:57

rails a little bit. This

1:34:00

next one is an

1:34:02

unreleased single written by

1:34:04

Springfield and Bissonnet produced

1:34:06

by Springfield. It's from

1:34:09

2021 and this song

1:34:11

is written to sell alcohol.

1:34:13

Yeah, pretty much. This is

1:34:15

Hardy at the Beach Bar

1:34:18

featuring Sammy Hager. There's Sammy's

1:34:20

Beach Bar Rum and somehow

1:34:22

Rick Springfield is involved in that company, even though

1:34:25

he's not on the bottle. He's not in the

1:34:27

advertising much. I don't know, what, like, what does,

1:34:29

what's his thing? Yeah, I mean, I don't know

1:34:31

the level of the partnership there. I mean, I

1:34:34

know that they've done some stuff together, promotionally, but,

1:34:36

you know, I don't, you know, he owns,

1:34:38

I don't think he owns any of the company.

1:34:40

I don't, I don't know. I also find it

1:34:42

odd because he'll go out and say things like

1:34:45

he doesn't drink anymore and he doesn't drink anymore

1:34:47

and then he's, he's, like, like, like, like, like,

1:34:49

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:34:51

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:34:54

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, what, what,

1:34:56

what, what, what, what, what, what, what's, what, what's,

1:34:58

what, what's, what's, what's, Christmas

1:35:00

during COVID, my wife

1:35:02

ordered me a three-pack

1:35:04

of the Sammi Beachbar

1:35:06

Rum, and on the website

1:35:08

it said, some of the

1:35:10

three packs will have a

1:35:12

bottle signed by Rick Springfield.

1:35:15

Well, I was lucky

1:35:17

enough to get one of

1:35:19

those balls. Which is crazy. I

1:35:21

mean, I don't know how many

1:35:23

were signed, but so great.

1:35:26

I have that. That

1:35:28

actually... traveled in my,

1:35:30

the empty bottle sign,

1:35:33

traveled in my suitcase

1:35:36

a week ago when we

1:35:38

flew back from LA.

1:35:40

All right, I digress.

1:35:43

Let's hear this thing.

1:35:45

I mean, let's let's do

1:35:48

it. Here we go.

1:35:50

Party at the beach

1:35:52

bar. Jesus

1:36:33

Christ. First of all, the

1:36:35

talking at the beginning, I

1:36:37

hate that nonsense. It's never

1:36:40

real. It's ridiculous. It's been,

1:36:42

it's been, it's been documented.

1:36:44

I forget which episode it

1:36:46

was for you guys. And

1:36:49

Sammy was a part of

1:36:51

it. Wasn't it? Yeah, him

1:36:53

and Nude. Yeah, right. I

1:36:55

mean, this, this is, this

1:36:57

is a terrible song. I

1:37:00

mean, he's done this a

1:37:02

million times. And every time

1:37:04

he does it, it gets

1:37:06

worse. Cabo Wabos, I like

1:37:09

Cabo Wabo, but then Maastakila

1:37:11

and now they, I mean,

1:37:13

come on. Listen, I can

1:37:15

do with that, you know

1:37:17

how I feel about Sam

1:37:20

Yeager, we've been through it

1:37:22

a million times, but I

1:37:24

mean, and I can do

1:37:26

without him on this song,

1:37:28

because first of all, he's

1:37:31

got nothing, he's on this

1:37:33

track, sounds so similar. But

1:37:35

I can't tell if Sammy's

1:37:37

taking verses or if he's

1:37:40

just repeating I know for

1:37:42

a fact that at some

1:37:44

point He's just repeating whatever

1:37:46

Rick is saying, but then

1:37:48

sometimes I feel like you

1:37:51

might be carrying a verse

1:37:53

very weird I don't need

1:37:55

him anywhere near this song

1:37:57

No, and this song It

1:37:59

feels like a leftover, right?

1:38:02

It's so contrived Yeah, lyrically,

1:38:04

it's like We're getting high.

1:38:06

I don't hate the song.

1:38:08

I don't, really, I don't.

1:38:11

But I don't love it

1:38:13

either. And it does, it

1:38:15

sounds like it was a

1:38:17

leftover. Sounds like it has

1:38:19

a little bit of a

1:38:22

demo feel to it. Yeah,

1:38:24

I mean, I don't mind,

1:38:26

look, and then the, first

1:38:28

of all, the beach bar

1:38:30

rum is fantastic. There's a

1:38:33

macadamian nut one that's red

1:38:35

in color and it's you

1:38:37

can pour that over ice

1:38:39

with no mixer and just

1:38:42

drink a glass of it

1:38:44

And I like Sammy and

1:38:46

I love Rick, but this

1:38:48

is just look They didn't

1:38:50

even try to write a

1:38:53

good song. Yeah, that's what

1:38:55

I'm saying. Hangar doesn't get

1:38:57

a writing credit on this.

1:38:59

No, he doesn't but they

1:39:01

didn't it's a leftover. It's

1:39:04

a leftover. It's that It's

1:39:06

that, it's the two of

1:39:08

them, it's a duo, and

1:39:10

Bisson, that hasn't written with

1:39:13

them in years. I mean,

1:39:15

that would be a leftover.

1:39:17

This is a song that

1:39:19

Jimmy Buffett would scrape off

1:39:21

his sandal and throw in

1:39:24

the ocean. Oh, good lord.

1:39:26

Thums down. Sorry, I don't

1:39:28

eat it. I don't, honestly,

1:39:30

I don't, but yeah, I

1:39:32

can't give it a thumbs.

1:39:35

No. All right, let's go

1:39:37

way back. 2008. This is

1:39:39

the, this is, uh. The

1:39:41

song is Venus in Overdrive

1:39:44

from Why am I having

1:39:46

a problem? From the album

1:39:48

Venus We were done with

1:39:50

the representation of tracks from

1:39:52

Venus No, Karma only has

1:39:55

one track. Oh, I thought

1:39:57

okay. All right. So anyway

1:39:59

Venus and Overdrive. It's the

1:40:01

it's the title track from

1:40:03

the album Venus and Overdrive

1:40:06

from the album Venus and

1:40:08

Overdrive from 2008 And again,

1:40:10

it is, why am I

1:40:12

having so many problems? Rendon

1:40:15

produced by Springfield and... Matt

1:40:17

Bissin, oh my god, just

1:40:19

play it, Pat, Jesus. All

1:40:31

right, you have the first

1:40:34

word on this one, Dave,

1:40:36

Venus and Overdrive. You showed

1:40:38

up. Venus and Overdrive. Sex

1:40:41

just got me buried alive.

1:40:43

Turn off. Venus and Overdrive.

1:40:45

But I feel again, I

1:40:47

really wish I I'm so

1:40:50

surprised I miss you I

1:40:52

miss that way I'll miss

1:40:54

that someday If I get

1:40:57

it right is not on

1:40:59

this compilation, and I would

1:41:01

have rather that I would

1:41:03

have rather that song we

1:41:06

hear than Venus an overdrive,

1:41:08

but it still gets a

1:41:10

thumbs up from me. All

1:41:13

right. It's and again. This

1:41:15

is the part of the

1:41:17

compilation from voodoo house little

1:41:19

demon party at the beach

1:41:22

bar at the beach bar

1:41:24

And Venus and Overdrive, this

1:41:26

is where it loses me

1:41:29

a bit. So I don't

1:41:31

like Venus and Overdrive, so

1:41:33

I have to give it

1:41:36

a thumbs down. But I'm

1:41:38

happy to say that we're

1:41:40

going to pick up here

1:41:42

in a second. In my

1:41:45

opinion, in a big way.

1:41:47

So this next song is

1:41:49

called Who Killed Rock and

1:41:52

Roll. It's the unreleased studio

1:41:54

version written and produced by

1:41:56

Rick Springfield. But I want

1:41:58

to say that. It's not

1:42:01

released. It's not released because

1:42:03

it was on, it was

1:42:05

a bonus track on one

1:42:08

of the versions of Venusin

1:42:10

Overdrive. Yeah. Yeah. It's out

1:42:12

there. The one released by

1:42:14

Angel Milk Records. That's right.

1:42:17

That's a label. So let's

1:42:19

hear. And the live version

1:42:21

was on the alive album,

1:42:24

correct? No. The live version

1:42:26

was a standalone track that

1:42:28

he released on iTunes. All

1:42:31

right. This was from the,

1:42:33

it is from the Venus

1:42:35

Sessions or around that time,

1:42:37

I think. But yeah, the

1:42:40

only time it's actually appeared

1:42:42

on an album is the

1:42:44

bonus track on one of

1:42:47

the, like, it's an import,

1:42:49

right? Yeah, and this is,

1:42:51

well, let's, let's hear it,

1:42:53

and we'll, we'll talk. Bullard

1:42:56

in a rock and roll's

1:42:58

head! When

1:43:06

she bled! Now

1:43:40

that's a sample from Dream Police

1:43:43

right there. Is it a sample?

1:43:45

Or is it like a nod?

1:43:48

Or did he recreate it? Is

1:43:50

it a nod maybe? It certainly

1:43:52

sounds like it. Well, it's definitely

1:43:55

is. Okay, let me play a

1:43:57

little bit more. World

1:44:24

is that a bonus track? I

1:44:27

mean that was my that was

1:44:29

my go-to like when people would

1:44:31

be like, what's wrong with you?

1:44:33

That was the one where I

1:44:35

used to be like just listen

1:44:37

to this for a long time.

1:44:39

Yeah, I so it's so even

1:44:41

yeah, it was a bonus and

1:44:43

it was and the live version

1:44:46

of it was um Yeah he

1:44:48

released it released it released it

1:44:50

on iTunes but it was like

1:44:52

an in-between track between I don't

1:44:54

remember what the deal was but

1:44:56

so that's so great I mean

1:44:58

it's just they they made shirts

1:45:00

that say who killed rock and

1:45:03

roll on them on the front

1:45:05

and back I think some of

1:45:07

the lyrics are printed I bought

1:45:09

two of them because I love

1:45:11

that song so much I knew

1:45:13

I would wear out one and

1:45:15

I wanted to have another you

1:45:17

bought two in case Rick wanted

1:45:20

to see one he's pulling out

1:45:22

of your back pocket Yeah, I

1:45:24

mean thumbs, thumbs so high up

1:45:26

for who killed Rock and Roll,

1:45:28

all my God, all night long.

1:45:30

All right, track 20, we're almost

1:45:32

done. We're almost done folks, 24

1:45:34

tracks, we're a track 20. We're

1:45:37

going all the way back to

1:45:39

2012 songs for the end of

1:45:41

the world, written and produced by

1:45:43

Bissonnett and Springfield. This is, I

1:45:45

hate myself. My

1:45:49

so-called friends all

1:45:51

quit without a

1:45:53

kiss goodbye. Everybody

1:45:56

thinks I'm a

1:45:58

creep. So do

1:46:00

I- Let

1:46:41

me tell you this. The three

1:46:43

songs on this album that are

1:46:45

from Songs for the End of

1:46:48

the World are the first three

1:46:50

songs on that album, wide awake,

1:46:52

our ship's sinking, and I hate

1:46:55

myself. And those three songs are

1:46:57

so good that the rest of

1:47:00

the album almost in a way

1:47:02

has a problem following those three

1:47:04

songs. In my opinion, I love

1:47:07

the album, but that's a strong

1:47:09

start. That's an extremely strong start

1:47:11

to a record. Oh, it is

1:47:14

for sure. I mean, I don't

1:47:16

know if I agree. I feel

1:47:19

like from top to bottom, songs

1:47:21

is pretty strong for me. Yeah,

1:47:23

it was true. Fun fact, I,

1:47:26

along with several other fans, are

1:47:28

actually on that song, singing. Well,

1:47:30

and I hate myself, like a

1:47:33

gang vocal. Yes, he did, yeah,

1:47:35

he did like a promotion thing

1:47:38

on YouTube where he said, Send

1:47:40

yourself singing like he sang it

1:47:42

you had to sing you know

1:47:45

send yourself singing like this and

1:47:47

You know send it to this

1:47:49

you know whatever tag I don't

1:47:52

know how they did it tag

1:47:54

it email it whatever and Will

1:47:57

include it on the track and

1:47:59

then on one of the bonus

1:48:01

tracks. It's like 30 minutes long

1:48:04

is all of the submissions that

1:48:06

were sent in and I the

1:48:08

third submission that you hear on

1:48:11

that 30-minute track, thank God, because...

1:48:13

Yeah, you have to, can you

1:48:16

isolate that and send it to

1:48:18

me and I'll put it... Sure.

1:48:20

It'll, it'll be after, as the

1:48:23